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Agent-SmithJomar is DA MANApr 29 00:00
Agent-SmithIn ODF mattersApr 29 00:00
Agent-SmithBob Sutor is other soft buttApr 29 00:00
Agent-Smithanother soft buttApr 29 00:00
Agent-SmithI meanApr 29 00:00
Agent-SmithBut the so "advertised" migration, did not happen as it was "advertised"Apr 29 00:01
Agent-SmithEven now, there's a programme, Professor Conectado - Teacher's ConnectedApr 29 00:02
Agent-SmithFrom our gov.Apr 29 00:02
Agent-SmithAnd, even in this programme, Linux and Open Office were nowhere to be seenApr 29 00:02
Agent-SmithLuckily, our Free Software Association blocked the programme legallyApr 29 00:03
Agent-SmithAnd they had to start over againApr 29 00:04
Agent-SmithNow, offering notebooks with Linux and Open OfficeApr 29 00:05
Agent-SmithIn the first run, they advertised Linux and Open Office, and only offered Winblow$ and M$ Office 2007Apr 29 00:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Chavez has almost 70,000 followers so far on his first day on twitter. http://is.gd/bMbnLApr 29 00:06
TechrightsBotTitle: Hugo Chávez Frías (chavezcandanga) on Twitter .::. Size~: 21.82 KBApr 29 00:07
schestowitzI like JomarApr 29 00:07
oiaohmhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/hp-buys-palm/  See palm has a new home don't know if it goodApr 29 00:07
TechrightsBotTitle: HP buys Palm -- Engadget .::. Size~: 215.41 KBApr 29 00:07
schestowitzew... HPApr 29 00:07
Agent-SmithJomar is gr8Apr 29 00:07
Agent-SmithThe guys has BALLS of SteelApr 29 00:07
Agent-SmithThe guy I meanApr 29 00:08
oiaohmAt least its a Linux foundation member ok not one of the best Linux foundations members.   schestowitzApr 29 00:08
schestowitzYes, I knowApr 29 00:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Palm consumed by HP is not the worst that could happen http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/hp-buys-palm/Apr 29 00:08
TechrightsBotTitle: HP buys Palm -- Engadget .::. Size~: 215.43 KBApr 29 00:08
schestowitzMaybe HP just wants the patentsApr 29 00:10
schestowitzSome on hardwareApr 29 00:10
Agent-SmithPalm belonged to Nokia? Apr 29 00:10
Agent-SmithOr just PalmOS ?Apr 29 00:11
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-04-28-017-35-NW-MS-LLApr 29 00:11
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Today - HTC Sells Out to Microsoft (Microsoft ‘Android Tax’) .::. Size~: 83.41 KBApr 29 00:11
schestowitzPalm is Palm, Agent-SmithApr 29 00:12
oiaohmNokia has a raft of patents covering phone network connections all the way to interfaces.Apr 29 00:12
oiaohmSo you are making a OS you could have to pay Nokia.Apr 29 00:12
Agent-SmithHummm... Symbian belonged to Nokia ???Apr 29 00:12
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-04-28-017-35-NW-MS-LL-0005Apr 29 00:12
schestowitz"Seems this is all they are looking for these days, I can only believe business at MS must be going wrong. And see, MS must believe they must slowly drown as many as they can, keeping their head above water, making money this way before they go down."Apr 29 00:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Today - HTC Sells Out to Microsoft (Microsoft ‘Android Tax’) .::. Size~: 74.73 KBApr 29 00:12
schestowitzExtortion Apr 29 00:12
oiaohmYep. Agent-Smith same with all the patents Symbian had.Apr 29 00:13
Agent-SmithAnd Palm ran under Symbian ?Apr 29 00:13
oiaohmBut Nokia is OIN so not a major theat to open source.Apr 29 00:13
oiaohmNo Palm OS is different to SymbianApr 29 00:13
Agent-SmithAhhhhApr 29 00:13
Agent-SmithOkApr 29 00:13
oiaohmAn emulator run under SymbianApr 29 00:13
oiaohmNot one Palm approved of.Apr 29 00:14
Agent-SmithHummm...Apr 29 00:14
Agent-SmithOkApr 29 00:14
oiaohmCurrent Palm work is Web OS that had a Linux core.Apr 29 00:14
oiaohmBut that going head to head with android and meego is going to be tough.Apr 29 00:14
_goblinRight, I think Im heading off soon...Apr 29 00:15
Agent-SmithDo u think HP is going to heat a war in mobile devices ?Apr 29 00:15
_goblin"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast"Apr 29 00:15
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oiaohmAgent-Smith:   I guess you have not been watching carefully enough.  The difference between a netbook machine production and phone production is becoming nothing more than screen size.Apr 29 00:17
Agent-SmithHummm... IndeedApr 29 00:17
Agent-SmithAll ARM insideApr 29 00:17
oiaohmSo at some point HP will either have to pull out of the netbook market or enter the phone.Apr 29 00:17
Agent-SmithEqually powerfulApr 29 00:17
oiaohmI would more predict enter the phone.Apr 29 00:17
Agent-SmithHum Hum... Apr 29 00:18
Agent-SmithEven Dell is daring in the phone marketApr 29 00:18
Agent-SmithSo, HP, won't be big newsApr 29 00:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and thats it for the night......regards all...Apr 29 00:18
oiaohmAnd it not like HP has not done phones before.Apr 29 00:19
Agent-SmithYup, Even M$(Kin) is making phones...Apr 29 00:19
oiaohmAll HP phones have been windows mobile.Apr 29 00:19
Agent-SmithHummmm...Apr 29 00:20
oiaohmSo aquirement of palm could see HP leave that.Apr 29 00:20
schestowitzMicrosoft is not making phonesApr 29 00:20
schestowitzit has others do itApr 29 00:20
schestowitzIt just stamps themApr 29 00:20
schestowitzLike 'Apple' hardwareApr 29 00:20
oiaohmPeople forget as part of the palm deal HP got a really cheep licence to use MS tech on phones.Apr 29 00:20
schestowitzI think palm Pre is made by LGApr 29 00:20
schestowitzMicrosoft uses Toshiba a lotApr 29 00:20
schestowitzAnd child labour in China of courseApr 29 00:21
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30265355#notice-30374005 "@schestowitz it certainly hits you in the face less (in a good way)"Apr 29 00:21
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.13 KBApr 29 00:21
oiaohmFoxcon as well.  schestowitz  All xbox 360 were FoxconApr 29 00:21
oiaohmSame with the Xbox before it.Apr 29 00:21
schestowitzThe linsxxxx crowd is engaging.. http://identi.ca/conversation/30288991#notice-30374970 "That'd be nice to see it ported over. I can already see potential. It'd be really cool to see KOffice + KEdu support for it." "That and CML (and LaTEX) support with ODF. Then it would be an even better contender for schools to MS Office."Apr 29 00:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.64 KBApr 29 00:22
schestowitzThat's the same guy who smeared me in other sitesApr 29 00:22
schestowitzNow he's playing "friends"Apr 29 00:22
Agent-SmithWho's the guy ?Apr 29 00:24
Agent-SmithMr. Dee ???Apr 29 00:25
Agent-SmithHe sure likes you a lot, Mr. SchestowitzApr 29 00:25
Agent-SmithBut, he's ridiculous as his mentor, Steve CaponeApr 29 00:25
Agent-SmithWell, got to go gentlemenApr 29 00:31
cubezzzwell there aren't many companies who can make all the parts for a computerApr 29 00:32
Agent-SmithIt was a privilege to be with youApr 29 00:33
Agent-SmithGood byeApr 29 00:33
cubezzzin fact, there might not be any company that makes _all_ the parts necessaryApr 29 00:33
cubezzzbye :)Apr 29 00:33
cubezzzAmiga didn't make their own keyboardsApr 29 00:33
cubezzzor casesApr 29 00:33
cubezzznot to many true manufacturersApr 29 00:34
cubezzzto = tooApr 29 00:34
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cubezzznot many companies made CRT's for exampleApr 29 00:34
cubezzzhow many companies make CPUs? Not very manyApr 29 00:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 RMS will be speaking in San Francisco at the Wordpress conference on May 1: http://2010.sf.wordcamp.org/Apr 29 00:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 29 00:34
satiperawhy would theyApr 29 00:35
schestowitz[00:25] <Agent-Smith> He sure likes you a lot, Mr. SchestowitzApr 29 00:35
schestowitzDa Costa?Apr 29 00:35
schestowitzNo, he dislikes meApr 29 00:35
cubezzzsarcasm :)Apr 29 00:35
schestowitz_Goblin and I have been exposing himApr 29 00:35
cubezzzSharp didn't make cpusApr 29 00:36
cubezzzthe point is you can't get all the parts from one companyApr 29 00:36
schestowitzI'll post some Linux links now... people love thoseApr 29 00:36
cubezzzso "building" a computer requires multiple companiesApr 29 00:36
satiperathat is nop for lots of thingsApr 29 00:37
satipera*normalApr 29 00:38
cubezzzprobably IBM could build a complete computerApr 29 00:38
satiperaDo audi make their own tyres?Apr 29 00:38
cubezzzprobably notApr 29 00:39
schestowitzWhat a fraud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duxG4lyeSlcApr 29 00:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Antiwarcom ‘South of the Border’ Reconsidered http://bit.ly/aSuM7J // common sense response on #US role in #Mexico drug violenceApr 29 00:43
TechrightsBotTitle:   South of the Border Reconsidered  by Anthony Gregory  -- Antiwar.com .::. Size~: 42.7 KBApr 29 00:44
satiperawatching the end of johnny mnemonic, dolphin HDD's now there is an ideaApr 29 00:47
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satiperanot very portable thoughApr 29 00:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mycitylives @TrajectoryCo: Doug Coupland on McLuhan at ROM tonight. A genius pairing. // Oh crap, how can I be out of #Toronto for thisApr 29 00:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Combining anti-drug hysteria with xenophobia has become a perennial winner in #US domestic politics' via @Antiwarcom http://bit.ly/aSuM7JApr 29 01:02
TechrightsBotTitle:   South of the Border Reconsidered  by Anthony Gregory  -- Antiwar.com .::. Size~: 42.7 KBApr 29 01:03
schestowitzWow. It turns out the Murdoch lied about Dawkins, maybe to smear himApr 29 01:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@NickKristof What has happened to sweet, lovable #Thailand? // maybe this: http://www.lewrockwell.com/bovard/bovard53.html via @antiwarcomApr 29 01:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Will a Drug Warrior Be Hanged? by James Bovard .::. Size~: 22.58 KBApr 29 01:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BobFertik #FOX's Brett Baier just lied about US Citizens needing to carry papers //of course *everybody* would. how else could it work #azApr 29 01:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Just installed #kubuntu Lucid LynxRC on Dell Optiplex GX240. Very impressive!Apr 29 01:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Unfortunately the Geforce2 MX/MX400 GPU in Optiplex died last week. Put back the original GPU (ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra) No HW accel. :-(Apr 29 01:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Catholic Church does good: 80,000 manuscripts from Vatican Library to be digitised http://is.gd/bMgoj (terms of access unknown as yet)Apr 29 01:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I subscribed to EaglesFanWeirdAl's channel on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/EaglesFanWeirdAl?feature=autoshare_twitterApr 29 01:49
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schestowitzgnApr 29 01:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I liked a YouTube video -- Another One Rides The Bus - "Weird Al" Yankovic http://youtu.be/7YQa6l3Geyo?aApr 29 02:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline Airlines cd get £2bn #ashtag pay-outs... http://bit.ly/9gi2Ry & taxpayer will pick up the bill //welcome to the free market!!Apr 29 02:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Biometrics: An Identity Crisis : BBC Radio 4 programme #UID http://bit.ly/bf5CLU @LivemintUIDApr 29 02:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Listening to the new Airbourne album that I bought from the Ubuntu One Music Store. :-) #ubuntuApr 29 03:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #uid UIDAI forces Babus to use Blackberry http://bit.ly/bN6kpC #uidApr 29 03:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Before the madness begins tomorrow, you folks may want to upgrade to the 10.04 RC now and then upgrade later. Little will change. #ubuntuApr 29 03:43
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sebsebsebjono: nice message there ^Apr 29 04:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Canadian Copyright Consultation Opposed By A Little Known Canadian Lawyer Richard Owens http://bit.ly/avBKTtApr 29 04:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I'm wondering, just why doesn't any of the four horsemen (Harris, Dawkins, Dennett and Hitchens) call for a (cont) http://tl.gd/12lh24Apr 29 04:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@eikonos @qu1j0t3 they don't need to carry papers everywhere; could wear some kind of arm bands instead. #az // more convenient yes #rwnjApr 29 04:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@vashtib If "Law&Order UK" is any indication of crime over there /#tv bears no relation to reality ;) What do u mean tho? #TO is super safeApr 29 04:49
Diablo-D3http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2010/04/26/image/292660_Live%20long%20and%20Shock%20her.jpgApr 29 04:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Scrap #UID project, say people's organisations http://bit.ly/aVaaJkApr 29 04:55
cubezzzhuh, HP is going to buy PalmApr 29 04:55
Diablo-D3nice.Apr 29 04:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Idaho "Giant Palouse earthworm" family found; just 1% of its habitat remains http://bit.ly/b4BdWK #conservationApr 29 04:56
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sir Peter Jackson http://ur1.ca/xsodApr 29 05:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Canadian Politics, Copyright Law, Lawyers, WIPO, Etc. - where I thank those who have helped me with my writing. http://bit.ly/ccGbIrApr 29 05:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @lunink @markos Duncan Hunter joins anti-immigrant crazy. Wants to deport baby American citizens. http://is.gd/bLWmY // W.T.F. #az #rwnjApr 29 05:21
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Can we get this fucker arrested for looking at child porn? http://ur1.ca/xstu #douchebagApr 29 05:43
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Is this the democracy we brought to Iraq? http://ur1.ca/xsv3Apr 29 05:48
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pumzi looks like a worthwhile sci-fi movie, filmed in Kenya http://ur1.ca/xsv9Apr 29 05:53
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cubezzzusb specifications : 5 volt, 100-400 mA Apr 29 05:57
cubezzzeasy to build a solar powered charger in that rangeApr 29 05:57
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Compare CNN to other major news outlets http://wtfcnn.com/Apr 29 06:03
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chevron demands "Crude" filmmaker hand over footage http://ur1.ca/xsxdApr 29 06:03
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cubezzzevidently the netwalker is a bit of a lemonApr 29 06:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How to make enemies and influence people: http://ping.fm/KN8yJ #microsoft #htc #linux #patentsApr 29 06:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@tehranweekly Brazil’s Lula to urge Iran against bomb //when did Lula stop beating his wife? The bomb is imaginary; trick headline. sighApr 29 06:46
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MinceRhttp://www.gamespy.com/articles/108/1086659p1.html?RSSwhen2010-04-28_155700&RSSid=1086659&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gsfeeds%2Fcolumns+%28GameSpy+Columns%29Apr 29 07:26
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schestowitzhttp://lawpundit.blogspot.com/2010/04/techrightsorg-is-wiki-on-tech-rights-it.htmlApr 29 07:29
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schestowitz"@schestowitz Of course they want a new trial. TSCOG is the Energizer Bunny of Litigants." http://identi.ca/conversation/30287816#notice-30395072Apr 29 07:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Just installed #KDE also on #lucid on my laptop. Which has a nice GPU. I am speechless by its beauty.Apr 29 07:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Jay! Lancelot is available again from the plasma widget chooser!Apr 29 07:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Just installed #KDE also on #lucid on my laptop. Which has a nice GPU. I am speechless by its beauty. #ubuntu #kdeApr 29 08:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Further evidence that those supporting software patents are front groups of giant corporations http://ur1.ca/xtlt #swpatApr 29 08:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Software Patents Imperialism | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.57 KBApr 29 08:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Pathetic: "Designer handbags" is following you on Twitter. #blockedApr 29 08:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] CNet: Microsoft claims Android steps on its patents: http://ur1.ca/xpxbApr 29 08:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft claims Android steps on its patents | Beyond Binary - CNET News .::. Size~: 188.5 KBApr 29 08:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Contacting Publications, Asking Them to Add More Anti- #Linux Slant http://techrights.org/2010/04/29/racketeers-in-the-press/Apr 29 09:13
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schestowitzhttp://industry.bnet.com/technology/10007271/what-kind-of-cloud-device-is-google-building/ "Johansson left Apple to work at Agnilux in August 2009. He’s an expert in operating system development and Linux kernel work. Linux happens to be the basis for both Chrome OS and Android. According to his LinkedIn profile, his specialties are “PowerPC and ARM architecture, Linux kernel internals, Hypervisor and virtualization software.” Apr 29 09:17
schestowitzVirtualization could easily fit work on a device that was cloud-centric."Apr 29 09:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Did Google Buy a Mysterious Startup to Build a Mysterious Cloud Device? | BNET Technology Blog | BNET .::. Size~: 83.07 KBApr 29 09:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "My living room has a stack of eight or nine late '90s 2U VA Linux servers" http://www.pcworld.com/article/194832/creative_reuse.htmlApr 29 09:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Creative Reuse - PCWorld .::. Size~: 46.3 KBApr 29 09:26
schestowitzhttp://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/kakai-to-launch-new-e-reader-for-students/Apr 29 09:37
TechrightsBotTitle: Kakai to launch new E-Reader for Students | Good E-Reader Blog - Electronic Reader and Slate PC News .::. Size~: 46.29 KBApr 29 09:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@typographica It used to be that #Helvetica was America's Helvetica. Check corporate identity systems from the 70sApr 29 09:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Last 10 #Ubuntu releases were at UTC times,reverse order(9.10 1st):14:25,11:53,14:11,12:17,11:15,14:18,10:11,09:08,02:10,07:48.Place bets!Apr 29 10:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey what time will the announcement be made and update-manager work?Apr 29 10:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] If you tweet anything make sure it should contains #lucid #ubuntu #10.04 (all 3 keywords) in order to make lucid as trending TopicApr 29 10:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @schestowitz No idea, but.. http://popey.com/blog/2009/04/23/Is_it_out_yet/ & http://popey.com/blog/2008/04/23/Things_Not_To_Say/Apr 29 10:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] During their half of the non scripted portion of an anonomous podcast I just heard someone say "you know" on average every 10 seconds!Apr 29 10:13
MinceRgeekingsApr 29 10:22
MinceRhttp://www.gircweb.org/islam%20peace%20poster.jpgApr 29 10:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I bet that #ubuntu will release at 14:40 UTC today #ubuntureleasebet :DApr 29 10:25
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-vPDNADVEYApr 29 10:35
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satiperaI just read that link in TR "$3 Licences Anyone?" this is huge. Physical product manufacturers must have come across the same problem and I wonder how they use the law to overcome this "problem" which I assume they do.Apr 29 10:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @popey I bet that #ubuntu will release at 14:40 UTC today #ubuntureleasebet :DApr 29 10:37
schestowitzsatipera: maybe that's why he's being astroturfedApr 29 10:38
schestowitzI first noticed this 2 weeks agoApr 29 10:38
satiperaI am pretty sure some manufacturing companies have gone to court over this type of thing. I am having a quick look around for what happenedApr 29 10:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] To release the servers, you can download your prefered ISO via bittorent: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ this is very fast.Apr 29 10:43
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satiperaschestowitz, yes, looking up "grey market" comes up with a mountain of informationApr 29 10:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] People with unlimited bandwidth broadband connections can seed the torrent. I do it that way since Feisty Fawn.Apr 29 10:45
satiperaIt is a capitalist's old chestnut of a problem, how to sell into poorer markets and maintain prices in richer marketsApr 29 10:45
schestowitztiered pricing is popular among airlinesApr 29 10:46
schestowitzThat's why they would contact Phorm and other pastsApr 29 10:46
schestowitz*pestsApr 29 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] 20:10 by IST time :( RT: @schestowitz: RT @popey I bet that #ubuntu will release at 14:40 UTC today #ubuntureleasebet :DApr 29 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Note that the current .torrent files, available from previous links are still RC (Release Candidates)!!!Apr 29 10:46
schestowitzTo study how much the client is willing to blow awayApr 29 10:47
satiperaYes, anti competitive but legal practices are rifeApr 29 10:47
satiperaThat is being polite about itApr 29 10:48
schestowitzThey are legal for wrong reasonsApr 29 10:49
schestowitzBeing take "legal" literally and suprficiallyApr 29 10:49
schestowitzWhat's "legal" is arbitrary, someone just defined itApr 29 10:50
schestowitzJust, ethical and legal and not the same thingApr 29 10:50
satiperaOh yes, "legal" can often appear to legitimise very dubious practicesApr 29 10:51
satiperaI had a chat with Goblin about his view of the law, he is a stickler for observance once a practice becomes law. I did not agree with himApr 29 10:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Chm2pdf http://code.google.com/p/chm2pdf/ goodApr 29 10:54
TechrightsBotTitle:  chm2pdf -  Project Hosting on Google Code .::. Size~: 11.51 KBApr 29 10:55
schestowitzsatipera: it's his occuptionApr 29 10:56
satiperaha ha that explains a lot, what type of lawyer is he?Apr 29 10:56
schestowitzLiberties were earned only by challenging the lawsApr 29 10:56
satiperaagreedApr 29 10:56
schestowitzsatipera: can't commentApr 29 10:56
satiperaOkay :)Apr 29 10:57
schestowitzhttp://www.cubaheadlines.com/2010/04/21/21250/cuba_bets_open_source_platforms_technological_independence.htmlApr 29 10:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2010/04/22/researchers-exploit-spying-loophole-in-mobile-systems-40088725/Apr 29 11:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Researchers exploit spying loophole in mobile systems | Security Threats | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 36.79 KBApr 29 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@typographica meant that #US made #Helvetica its own in various periods. But not the definitive American sans, sure. Nor Gotham; too new :)Apr 29 11:11
schestowitzhttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/04/22/htc-lets-down-hero-users-yet-again/Apr 29 11:12
TechrightsBotTitle: HTC Hero users let down, yet again | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 57.75 KBApr 29 11:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A quick blast of the Filth before going to work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n49hcMshMk #cof #metal #rockonApr 29 11:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@typographica PanAm,of course; today, American Apparel etc; but the dominance of Helvetica & Univers is rampant in 70s corporate id systemsApr 29 11:13
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Cradle Of Filth - The Forest Whispers My Name .::. Size~: 88.49 KBApr 29 11:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@typographica one such book http://bit.ly/KtJBe - probably you know it? #univers #helvetica #typographyApr 29 11:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] From Today, I will start making a "Video Diary" for daily event and plans by recording video using cheese and storing them #lucid #ubuntuApr 29 11:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Corporate Identity Manuals - a set on Flickr .::. Size~: 40.08 KBApr 29 11:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@typographica The definitive British sans? - First Gill, then Grotesques, I think? #typography #monotypeApr 29 11:18
EruaranI have posted a reply to the cnet article "Patent fights could change Google's Android pitch"Apr 29 11:20
EruaranUnder the name "jezzali" (its an old nick I cant be bothered changing)Apr 29 11:21
EruaranI think the final point was the most pertinent with regard to Apple and MicrosoftApr 29 11:22
Eruaran"The developer exodus away from Apple to Android is now in full swing, and Microsoft is in a much worse position with developers simply not being interested in their product in the first place."Apr 29 11:22
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/mcafee-bug-forces-aussie-store-closures-62062816.htmApr 29 11:23
TechrightsBotTitle: McAfee bug forces Aussie store closures - Security - News .::. Size~: 47.39 KBApr 29 11:23
Eruaran"Android's application growth is now astronomical. This is a sure sign: Apple and Microsoft have already lost because they have lost the developer community, and none of their current actions will win the support of developers back to their platforms. The enormous price they are going to pay we will see unfolding in the coming months and years."Apr 29 11:23
schestowitzHeh. The last time, Microsoft DST has Australian shops shut downApr 29 11:23
schestowitz[11:22] <Eruaran> "The developer exodus away from Apple to Android is now in full swing, and Microsoft is in a much worse position with developers simply not being interested in their product in the first place."Apr 29 11:23
schestowitzIt's worseApr 29 11:23
schestowitzWith Zin (Kin) they dumped all appsApr 29 11:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice article from @HugoRifkind in The Times today. http://bit.ly/d3oaTj "Why Ubuntu excites me more than Windows or Macintosh"Apr 29 11:24
TechrightsBotTitle:  Why Ubuntu excites me more than Windows or Macintosh - Times Online  .::. Size~: 108.02 KBApr 29 11:24
schestowitzSkype and Adobe dumped Windows MobApr 29 11:24
EruaranyesApr 29 11:24
EruaranAnd then there's everyone who is heavily invested not only in Android as a platform but Linux and Java in general.Apr 29 11:24
EruaranThe FUD articles don't mention the Open Handset Alliance.Apr 29 11:25
EruaranApple and Microsoft are stirring up a hornets nest of enemies.Apr 29 11:25
EruaranHistory will judge their actions as (pun alert) PATENTLY STUPID.Apr 29 11:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "I like Ubuntu, but what the heck is Linux? Is it good?"Apr 29 11:25
EruaranI surely would like to see Microsoft actually specify what patents Android could possibly infringe... since its mostly Linux and Java... That doesn't sound like a very smart strategyApr 29 11:28
EruaranWhat if LarryE called SteveB and said, "hey guess what Steve, we own Sun now, did you know?"Apr 29 11:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'barring British MP @GGalloway from #Canada was politically motivated & misused immigration law' http://bit.ly/9EZLjv #HarperMustGo #cdnpoliApr 29 11:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Tories behind decision to stop British MP from speaking in Canada, court told - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 93.14 KBApr 29 11:29
Eruaran"that means Java patents Steve, want to talk about .NET?"Apr 29 11:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@aletritas Piar = to tweet. @anerol_gaApr 29 11:30
EruaranI am very much against software patents, they are patently wrong (couldn't resist), but I'd love to see some of those defensive patent owners rip into Microsoft and Apple.Apr 29 11:30
cubezzzEvil fighting evil?Apr 29 11:31
schestowitzEruaran: they have no choice (micropple)Apr 29 11:33
cubezzzofftopic but I get a kick out of it:Apr 29 11:33
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_steamApr 29 11:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Live steam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.97 KBApr 29 11:33
schestowitzcubezzz: anvil fighting anvilApr 29 11:33
schestowitzEruaran: thanks for the banner, I put it in the front page yesterdayApr 29 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Tobacco industry on the defensive again. Good news from Australia. http://is.gd/bMOMaApr 29 11:36
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - Australia plans plain-packaging rule for cigarettes .::. Size~: 49.31 KBApr 29 11:37
schestowitzWhat a crappy phone: http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/test_bench/article7105830.eceApr 29 11:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] No wonder #Apple has gone aggressive against @Gizmodo and #Android. Next hypePhone looks like stagnation. http://ur1.ca/xuujApr 29 11:39
TechrightsBotTitle:  Secrets of the new Apple iPhone revealed - Times Online  .::. Size~: 105.9 KBApr 29 11:40
Eruaranschestowitz: oh?Apr 29 11:44
Eruaranschestowitz: I will get some more doneApr 29 11:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] NHS worst for data breaches - Information Commissioner http://is.gd/bMPiNApr 29 11:46
TechrightsBotTitle: BBC News - NHS worst for data breaches - Information Commissioner .::. Size~: 46.13 KBApr 29 11:46
Eruaranschestowitz: its just been a busy week, I'll do some more on the current look over the next couple of daysApr 29 11:46
cubezzzhuh, even wikipedia has link rotApr 29 11:49
schestowitzEruaran: cool, thanks!Apr 29 11:51
schestowitzcubezzz: you can at least fix thatApr 29 11:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Israeli troops kill Gaza protester http://is.gd/bMPRb #palestine #occupationApr 29 11:55
TechrightsBotTitle: Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Israeli troops kill Gaza protester .::. Size~: 49.56 KBApr 29 11:56
schestowitzok, bblApr 29 11:56
schestowitzNice... http://skepticblog.org/Apr 29 11:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] It's apparently your turn to show off your brilliance today an... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 29 12:10
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oiaohmI just had the ass hole of a day.  A windows XP machine with a valid sticker missing disk I cannot reinstall until I find a compadible disk.Apr 29 12:25
oiaohmAnd MS will not tell me the number of the disk I am looking for either.Apr 29 12:25
cubezzzput Linux on it :)Apr 29 12:30
cubezzzsimplerApr 29 12:30
oiaohmWish I could.Apr 29 12:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Is it sad that when filling in my hours on my timesheet for Monday-Thursday, I put 8, 8, 4, 4 and thought "Ooh, Google DNS server"?Apr 29 12:57
cubezzzheh, I did that yesterdayApr 29 12:58
cubezzzused google's dns server I mean :)Apr 29 12:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT #OggCamp shirts have arrived. http://bit.ly/drCXzo http://bit.ly/dy8tQk \o/ yay!Apr 29 13:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On way to work....Apr 29 13:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin Roy happened to mention your occupation this morning, you are the only person I have ever heard of that does that on shift work.Apr 29 14:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Or like #freerunner mostly is (nowadays, #SHR only, perhaps, since h:1 and Debian are, well, Debian :))Apr 29 14:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] O #concurso #ilegal para o novo #magalhães já tem vencedores e não são surpresa: #Intel #Microsoft #JPSaCouto #PrológicaApr 29 14:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Porque é que considero o #concurso do novo #magalhães #ilegal? A saber mais tarde (não prometo para hoje, mas incluirá o doc dos requisitos)Apr 29 14:19
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/seiflotfy/statuses/13062816324 "Its entertaining how mono haters pick on mono apps... the latest victim http://techrights.org/2010/04/28/docky-dot-exe/ thx for advertising"Apr 29 14:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Seif Lotfy: Its entertaining how mono  ... .::. Size~: 10.79 KBApr 29 14:31
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oiaohmNew attempt to counter schestowitzApr 29 14:37
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satiperaWell yesterday it was ersatz windows7 and windowsxp  twitter followers today it was novell_uk :)Apr 29 14:40
satiperahttp://twitter.com/Novell_uk?utm_source=follow&utm_content=profile&utm_campaign=twitter20080331162631&utm_medium=emailApr 29 14:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Novell UK Ltd. (Novell_uk) on Twitter .::. Size~: 43.63 KBApr 29 14:43
schestowitzWhich distro has kde 4.4 and is good?Apr 29 14:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OMG, this Lucid Lynx hype knocks me of my socks. They are no better than Microsoft Zealots. Just disgusting :-(Apr 29 14:47
cubezzzeh? Apr 29 14:48
schestowitzRight after he had installed itApr 29 14:48
schestowitzSurprises me that MArti would write itApr 29 14:48
cubezzzFedora 13 comes out in 20 daysApr 29 14:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Can anyone recommend a #KDE 4.4 distro? I'm probably going to burn and install oneApr 29 14:50
oiaohmPersonally I have been happy enough with 4.3Apr 29 14:50
oiaohmI most likely will skip over 4.4Apr 29 14:50
oiaohmAnd go back to my every second release patern.Apr 29 14:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Melbourne ppl: recommendations for a good, down-to-earth, authentic Indian restaurant inner city? unpretentious just great regional #foodApr 29 14:51
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trmancoschestowitz: install arch :PApr 29 14:51
trmancohi allApr 29 14:51
oiaohmhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23220/Microsoft_Signs_the_Joomla_Contributor_Agreement  MS is fairly desperate todo this.Apr 29 14:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Signs the Joomla! Contributor Agreement .::. Size~: 26.84 KBApr 29 14:51
cubezzzpeople have "upgradotosis"Apr 29 14:52
cubezzzthe endless urge to always upgradeApr 29 14:53
schestowitzhttp://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1086720p1.htmlApr 29 14:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Sony PlayStation 3 - PS3 Games, Cheats, Walkthroughs, News, Reviews, Previews, Game Trailers & Videos at IGN .::. Size~: 174.2 KBApr 29 14:53
schestowitzHi, trmancoApr 29 14:53
schestowitzwhat's up with the astrology?Apr 29 14:53
cubezzzI liked Fedora 10 a lot, but it really depends on the hardwareApr 29 14:53
trmancoyoApr 29 14:53
schestowitztrmanco: is it easy?Apr 29 14:53
trmancoschestowitz: what do you mean by easy? :PApr 29 14:54
schestowitzoiaohm: they want it to help WindowsApr 29 14:54
trmancotry it in a vm, and see if you like itApr 29 14:54
schestowitztrmanco: gui installer and allApr 29 14:54
schestowitzand good reposApr 29 14:54
trmancoI also recomend having a page of arch's wiki openApr 29 14:54
trmancoit's textApr 29 14:54
schestowitzoh boyApr 29 14:54
trmancorepos are always updatedApr 29 14:55
schestowitzIt doesn't sound like much funApr 29 14:55
trmancolatest*Apr 29 14:55
trmancoheheApr 29 14:55
oiaohmschestowitz:  Think about it MS has to pay there staff to do the open source work.Apr 29 14:55
oiaohmHow are MS going to get money back from it schestowitzApr 29 14:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: What about PCLinuxOS? Seems to be very good. Didn't try it myself though.Apr 29 14:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz using Kubuntu 10.04 RC now. It's fine, but the fanboyism (Like in Micorsoft Zealots) knocks me off my socks :-(Apr 29 14:59
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cubezzz"You have the option to acquire Microsoft patent assurance on Xandros Desktop products. The program costs $50."Apr 29 15:03
cubezzzpfffftttApr 29 15:04
cubezzzok, this is strangeApr 29 15:04
cubezzzXandros is using the same KDE that I use :)Apr 29 15:05
cubezzz3.4.2Apr 29 15:05
MinceRhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1lxpiCGu71qazkowo1_500.jpgApr 29 15:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ah, #linuxgeeks @ irc.geekshed.net is a lot more mature than the previous irc channel I visited ;-)Apr 29 15:09
cubezzzcoca-cola is hard on the teeth Apr 29 15:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] anybody around?Apr 29 15:12
schestowitztrmanco: Arch Linux lost one of its biggest contributors http://www.go2linux.org/linux/2010/04/arch-linux-lost-one-its-biggest-contributors-737Apr 29 15:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Arch Linux lost one of its biggest contributors | Linux Operating System - Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo, Arch .::. Size~: 15.17 KBApr 29 15:15
trmancowow :(Apr 29 15:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst yeah, I might give #pclinuxos a go. I used it beforeApr 29 15:16
schestowitzcubezzz: xandros is dead for mist purposesApr 29 15:16
schestowitz*mostApr 29 15:16
schestowitzoiaohm: see http://ostatic.com/blog/the-sad-story-of-xoops-governance-failApr 29 15:16
TechrightsBotTitle:  The Sad Story of XOOPS: Governance Fail  .::. Size~: 28.73 KBApr 29 15:17
schestowitzIt has been quite trouble at the management level since mambo-server daysApr 29 15:17
schestowitztrmanco: there are many others, not to worryApr 29 15:17
trmancoyeah, but still :(Apr 29 15:17
schestowitzoiaohm: thanks, I'll do a post about it laterApr 29 15:17
schestowitztrmanco: I don't know himApr 29 15:18
EruaranAll warfare is based on deception. - Sun TzuApr 29 15:18
schestowitzfunkhimApr 29 15:18
schestowitzEruaran: it would be so much easier if it was a dictatorship -GW BushApr 29 15:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I am in a search of of php/mysql programmer for 10-15 day taskApr 29 15:20
EruaranI'm trying to find a quote from The Art Of War but can't find itApr 29 15:20
EruaranSun Tzu talks about a king who pays his army and a king who doesn't have to pay his armyApr 29 15:21
EruaranThe one who's army loves their king and will fight even if not payed has already wonApr 29 15:21
cubezzzcertainly I wouldn't suggest Xandros :)Apr 29 15:22
cubezzzI don't see a big different in Linux distrosApr 29 15:22
cubezzzdifferenceApr 29 15:22
EruaranI don't understand how Microsoft can get HTC to sign a patent agreement over Android.Apr 29 15:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz What's worng with your curent distro?Apr 29 15:25
EruaranI can certainly understand if HTC's board met and decided it was cheaper and less risky to just pay Microsoft... but, Android on HTC becomes "royalty bearing free software"Apr 29 15:25
cubezzzbulding your own Linux is probably the best answerApr 29 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1398&news=HP+Palm+webOS+TabletApr 29 15:25
TechrightsBotTitle: HP Buying Palm, Might Make a webOS Tablet .::. Size~: 48.2 KBApr 29 15:25
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30450376 "@schestowitz : Arch Linux, don't use KDEMod but the regular KDE repo, or Fedora. Didn't try the 13, but Fedora is incredible for KDE."Apr 29 15:27
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cubezzzthe more you understand your hardware, the less hardware you need to buyApr 29 15:27
schestowitz@schestowitz fedora 12 "http://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30450799"Apr 29 15:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 17.52 KBApr 29 15:28
schestowitz"@schestowitz well, I should say Fedora 12 KDE Edition. We put a lot of working in an awesome spin each release."Apr 29 15:28
cubezzzeasy example: the ebookApr 29 15:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst I want the latest #KDEApr 29 15:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ wonder if Steve Jobs typed that on an ipad :)Apr 29 15:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Thoughts on Flash .::. Size~: 15.04 KBApr 29 15:28
cubezzzalmost anything could be reprogrammed as an ebookApr 29 15:28
schestowitztrmanco: charles said ArchApr 29 15:28
schestowitzSome say Fedora which is tempting also cause i tried it, but F13 is coming soonApr 29 15:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@MikeRozycki Steve jobs-#flash no longer necessary // he may have a point, tho i still think he's an uptight, greedy bugger. #adobe #appleApr 29 15:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30451066 "@schestowitz Try the new Chakra Alpha 5: http://is.gd/bN1RX"Apr 29 15:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 17.52 KBApr 29 15:29
TechrightsBotTitle: The Chakra Project - Download Chakra LiveCD .::. Size~: 24.21 KBApr 29 15:29
cubezzzfor $278 you can get a totally programmable computer, with ethernet, mouse, and 4 gb flash drive shipped :)Apr 29 15:29
cubezzzI worked it out last nightApr 29 15:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz OK, no idea :-pApr 29 15:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/30452163 "@schestowitz: !kubuntu lucid is pretty nice, also !opensuse 11.3 alpha 6 is out today"Apr 29 15:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Ben Court (descendent87) 's status on Thursday, 29-Apr-10 13:48:12 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.23 KBApr 29 15:31
cubezzzroms documented, all chips documented 100%Apr 29 15:31
schestowitz"@schestowitz I would say opensuse :)"Apr 29 15:31
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30367760#notice-30453097Apr 29 15:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.7 KBApr 29 15:31
schestowitzThey don't know about Novell?Apr 29 15:31
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30368444#notice-30453796 "@schestowitz I'd try #openSUSE with #KDE:KDE4:factory repo"Apr 29 15:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.98 KBApr 29 15:31
schestowitzMany SUSE suggestionsApr 29 15:31
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30454570 "@schestowitz wait a few hours for the new kubuntu. it's amazing, really. :)"Apr 29 15:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 18.73 KBApr 29 15:32
schestowitzHmm.... I don't wannaApr 29 15:32
cubezzzstop wimping out... LFS timeApr 29 15:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30456119 "@schestowitz maybe archlinux? ;)"Apr 29 15:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 18.73 KBApr 29 15:32
schestowitzcubezzz: nooooooo...Apr 29 15:32
schestowitzlet me see an arch review..Apr 29 15:33
MinceRstop wimping out... time to design and build your own computer and OS from scratchApr 29 15:33
cubezzzbe adventurousApr 29 15:33
MinceR:>Apr 29 15:33
cubezzzok, my idea was more plausibleApr 29 15:33
cubezzzif I was immortal I would try MinceR's ideaApr 29 15:33
MinceRand you're immortal... so far.Apr 29 15:34
schestowitz"@schestowitz http://www.calculate-linux.org/en http://www.calculate-linux.org/blogs/en/106/show (Gentoo-based)" http://twitter.com/beranger_v4/status/13068966595Apr 29 15:34
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schestowitzMinceR: that scares meApr 29 15:34
schestowitzI never struggled with a distro yet, except onceApr 29 15:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Thanks for all the kind suggestions: I'm looking at arch, fedora, pclinuxos at the momentApr 29 15:35
schestowitzBesides, if  I mess up, then it could hinder my workApr 29 15:35
cubezzzMinceR, this morning I ran the first c64 demo ever made on my zaurus :)Apr 29 15:35
cubezzz1982Apr 29 15:35
MinceRschestowitz: what distro (if any) are you replacing?Apr 29 15:35
MinceRcubezzz: :)Apr 29 15:35
schestowitz"@schestowitz Try the new Chakra Alpha 5: http://is.gd/bN1RX" http://twitter.com/jernejovc/status/13069144439Apr 29 15:35
TechrightsBotTitle: The Chakra Project - Download Chakra LiveCD .::. Size~: 24.21 KBApr 29 15:35
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schestowitz@jernejovc is it reliable at alpha?Apr 29 15:36
schestowitzMinceR: kubuntuApr 29 15:36
schestowitzit was ryan's suggestion last yearApr 29 15:36
MinceR:)Apr 29 15:36
schestowitzIt works well, but I want to test another oneApr 29 15:36
MinceRyou're in the same situation as i am, thenApr 29 15:36
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ uname -aApr 29 15:36
schestowitzLinux roy 2.6.31-11-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 2 11:55:55 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/LinuxApr 29 15:36
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ uptimeApr 29 15:36
schestowitz 15:36:43 up 163 days, 12:07,  3 users,  load average: 0.22, 0.24, 0.25Apr 29 15:36
MinceRthough i'm not hurrying yetApr 29 15:37
cubezzz2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp #1 SMP Wed Aug 4 11:48:29 EDT 2004 ;)Apr 29 15:37
schestowitzHalf a year uptime in a couple of weeksApr 29 15:37
schestowitzMinceR: did you think about in-place update?Apr 29 15:37
ThistleWebcurrent episode of mintcast, rothgar works in a school, which has an apple store. They got iPads in about 3 weeks ago, sold 4 of them....3 to departments, and 1 for a giveaway.....none to real people yetApr 29 15:37
schestowitzhttp://www.ghacks.net/2010/04/28/upgrading-from-ubuntu-9-10-to-10-4/Apr 29 15:37
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schestowitzmarti says sudo update-manager -d should doApr 29 15:37
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cubezzzyou could make a simple computer pretty easily, there were all sorts of digital logic kits madeApr 29 15:38
cubezzzthen when you were done you could give the finger to Intel :)Apr 29 15:39
schestowitzhttp://pclinuxos.com/?page_id=180 "Full KDE 4.4.2 Desktop."Apr 29 15:39
TechrightsBotTitle:   KDE Desktop » PCLinuxOS .::. Size~: 20.57 KBApr 29 15:39
schestowitzMaybe I should try thatApr 29 15:40
schestowitzMinceR: would system update be of any use?Apr 29 15:40
schestowitz"PCLinuxOS includes all of the latest popular applications such as Firefox 3.6.3, Thunderbird 3.0.4"Apr 29 15:40
cubezzzworth a try I supposeApr 29 15:42
cubezzzyou're not going to try any of my ideasApr 29 15:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I will hopefully try several distros today. Downloading pclinuxos first (KDE 4.4.2 Desktop)Apr 29 15:43
schestowitz"@schestowitz I've been using it since Alpha 2, and It always works like a charm for me, it's really stable even though it's still alpha." http://identi.ca/conversation/30370626#notice-30457124 "@jernejovc a friend of mine (@_goblin) reviewed it and loved it"Apr 29 15:43
MinceRschestowitz: i want to move off *ubuntuApr 29 15:43
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schestowitzcubezzz: you suggested Fedora, right?Apr 29 15:43
cubezzzwell, in the beginning I didApr 29 15:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30457264 "@schestowitz I'd go for !kubuntu, can't stand rpm based distros. Lucid has the latest !KDE SC 4.4.2"Apr 29 15:44
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schestowitz"@johnnybrommie thanks, I'll try !kubuntu also"Apr 29 15:44
schestowitzcubezzz: but you use 10Apr 29 15:44
cubezzzno :)Apr 29 15:44
schestowitzI used 12 a while backApr 29 15:44
schestowitzit was goodApr 29 15:44
schestowitzI loves the themesApr 29 15:44
cubezzzI use fc1, fedora 10,11 & 12Apr 29 15:45
schestowitzNo uglinessApr 29 15:45
cubezzzguess which one I use the most? :)Apr 29 15:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30457881 "@schestowitz the incoming new !mandriva planned for june will fit you, mdv is so easy to use !"Apr 29 15:45
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schestowitz"@goom yes, I used !mandriva and loved it. Let me try pclos/others first"Apr 29 15:46
*cubezzz shrugsApr 29 15:46
cubezzz10 did work really well thoughApr 29 15:46
cubezzzupgradotosis :)Apr 29 15:47
schestowitzBéranger   beranger_v4Apr 29 15:49
schestowitz  Apr 29 15:49
schestowitz@schestowitz PCLinuxOS being, I guess, the only distro *not* having vi/vim on the Live/Install media... Apr 29 15:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/beranger_v4/status/13071502878Apr 29 15:49
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schestowitz"@beranger_v4 I used the live version last year and it was mostly fine. I only use vi on servers"Apr 29 15:50
Omar87Howdy, all.Apr 29 15:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30458345 "@schestowitz !fedora has the best !kde implementation I've seen IMO, although I haven't tried Arch yet (but have heard good things)."Apr 29 15:53
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schestowitzHM... I'm starting to regret not going for Fedora firstApr 29 15:54
schestowitzBut it's tied to Red Hat.. I don't like thatApr 29 15:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I am still waiting #ubuntuApr 29 15:57
cubezzzthere's no perfect answerApr 29 15:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] French Court TGI rejects search engine software patent EP1182581 based on subject matter exclusion (art52 EPC): http://ur1.ca/xwdvApr 29 16:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] 5.000.000EUR for violation of a software patent: http://ur1.ca/xwegApr 29 16:05
schestowitz"@schestowitz you know that openSUSE has the best KDE out there, don't you :-))" http://identi.ca/conversation/30374135#notice-30459607Apr 29 16:05
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schestowitzI can't use openSUSEApr 29 16:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: 5.000.000EUR for violation of a software patent: http://ur1.ca/xwegApr 29 16:09
EruaranI don't believe openSUSE is the best KDE distroApr 29 16:09
EruaranIt still feels unfinished and the Novell connection makes me uncomfortableApr 29 16:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Last call: alguém vai aos Mão Morta hoje à noite e quer aproveitar para jantar pela Baixa?Apr 29 16:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The boundary between a patentable computer-implemented invention and an unpatentable software process: http://ur1.ca/xwfnApr 29 16:12
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cubezzzwell there's always DebianApr 29 16:18
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8HsoiYypJYApr 29 16:28
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schestowitzGood videoApr 29 16:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Man! #Plone had waaaaaay much less vulnerabilities in the past 3 yrs. than Drupal!! :D http://is.gd/bN9B5Apr 29 16:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Could the Guardian's technology section Linux coverage possibly get any worse? They have not even written their 6 monthly ubuntu story.Apr 29 16:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Keep on click this link - http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent If it is available then download #ubuntuApr 29 16:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] De qq ds formas, autoestradas pagas sob use/pay é um insulto à minha pessoa, há milhares de km de não uso e os meus impostos contribuiram.Apr 29 16:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Para além de serem mal geridas como a merda, 400 km de alcatrão podiam ser refeitos num fds se contratadas 20 empresas a fazer 20km cada.Apr 29 16:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Como é que a A1 está tantos anos em obras? :)Apr 29 16:44
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Ender2070ubuntu releases todayApr 29 17:09
EruaranWasn't the release date the 29th?Apr 29 17:13
Ender2070its the 29thApr 29 17:13
EruaranIt's the 30th hereApr 29 17:14
Ender2070yeahApr 29 17:14
Ender2070some reviews are popping up alreadyApr 29 17:14
Ender2070http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/29/1319210/Ubuntu-Linux-1004-Review-Lucid-Lynx?art_pos=4Apr 29 17:14
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Ender2070What is the difference between Jurassic Park and Microsoft? - One is an over-rated high tech theme park based on prehistoric information and populated mostly by dinosaurs, the other is a Steven Spielberg movieApr 29 17:16
EruaranhehApr 29 17:17
Eruaran"On hold due to a bug in install process that doesn't detect dual boot set ups properly."Apr 29 17:18
Eruaran"Why is that a bug? MS hasn't ever detected dual boot properly"Apr 29 17:18
MinceREnder2070: lolApr 29 17:21
Ender2070pissing off ubuntu users is funnyApr 29 17:22
Ender2070#ubuntu-release-partyApr 29 17:22
EruaranI saw thatApr 29 17:22
EruaranI decided I wasn't going to joinApr 29 17:23
Ender2070[12:06] <Ender2070> Even Microsoft released Win7 on timeApr 29 17:23
EruaranlolApr 29 17:23
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-delayed-by-last-minute-GRUB-bug-990277.htmlApr 29 17:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS delayed by last minute GRUB bug - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.46 KBApr 29 17:23
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @mjasay Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue. This is the clearest indication of MS's irrelevance: it's now the hapless litigantApr 29 17:23
Ender2070[12:06] <agnel> Ender2070, get outApr 29 17:23
EruaranThe idea of a release party reminds me of those Windows 7 house partiesApr 29 17:23
EruaranhahaApr 29 17:23
schestowitzHeheApr 29 17:24
Eruaransay something about KDE being better than GnomeApr 29 17:24
Eruaran>:DApr 29 17:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Ubuntu bug -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2010-04-29-Late-respin-for-bug-570765 :(Apr 29 17:30
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Ender2070hahahaApr 29 17:30
EruaranfixedApr 29 17:33
Ender2070lolApr 29 17:34
Ender2070i wonder if 10.04 will cleanly upgrade on my server this timeApr 29 17:34
Ender2070last time it held back the kernel foreverApr 29 17:35
Ender2070what i should do is migrate pwnage.ca the hell off ubuntu and onto fedora or centos 6Apr 29 17:35
Ender2070when its outApr 29 17:36
EruaranI should dl centosApr 29 17:37
EruaranI always forget about itApr 29 17:37
Eruarantill someone mentions itApr 29 17:37
Ender2070lol ubuntu is being delayed to fix a bug which is actually imo a featureApr 29 17:38
Ender2070ubuntu should make your windows boot entry not show upApr 29 17:39
Ender2070:)Apr 29 17:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] UIDAI – The Identity Risk http://www.riyaz.in/2010/04/29/uidai-the-identity-risk/ #uidApr 29 17:43
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Eruaranyes, it might help with bug #1Apr 29 17:43
MinceRactually it's unlikely to help with itApr 29 17:43
Eruaranwas jokingApr 29 17:43
EruaranA mist envelops Redmond... Microsoft employees stay behind the glass doors looking out at the mist...Apr 29 17:45
EruaranThere's something strange about the mistApr 29 17:45
Eruaranthe power goes outApr 29 17:46
EruaranA man comes screaming to the doorApr 29 17:46
Eruaran"something in the mist! something in the mist took john lee!"Apr 29 17:46
Eruaranthis otherwordly mist is an opening to another dimension... a world topsy turvy where strange creatures lurkApr 29 17:47
ThistleWeb"a smoke filled room" huh? could be a gentlemens club where they're used to selling out the public, or a stoners room where they can convince themseleve's that their products are still "best of breed"Apr 29 17:47
Eruaranout of the mist come penguins and green robotsApr 29 17:47
ThistleWebturning to madness as they watch the world move passed them and take less and less noticeApr 29 17:48
EruaranThen SteveB wakes up from the dreamApr 29 17:48
EruaranFor the rest of the day he lets out a yelp everytime he sees a penguin or a green robot on news itemsApr 29 17:48
schestowitzbrb... booting for the first time since Nov 09Apr 29 17:49
schestowitzI want to try PCLOSApr 29 17:49
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ThistleWebpclos 2007 was great, twas the first linux I used full timeApr 29 12:36
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EruaranI'm actually quite pleased with the new KubuntuApr 29 12:38
EruaranBest Kubuntu ever I'd sayApr 29 12:38
EruaranCertainly the most polishedApr 29 12:38
EruaranKPackageKit still sucks thoughApr 29 12:39
EruaranKDE finally has a restore panel optionApr 29 12:42
EruaranFor those who accidentally delete their panelApr 29 12:43
Eruaran:PApr 29 12:43
EruaranIt's a common oopsApr 29 12:43
EruaranI've done it myselfApr 29 12:43
EruaranFor me its a case of, "no, argh, dammit... add widgets..."Apr 29 12:44
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schestowitzHello from pclosApr 29 12:44
EruaranBut for some customers its been a case of, "omg... PICK UP PHONE AND CALL STORE NAO!"Apr 29 12:44
EruaranhelloApr 29 12:44
EruaranI find skype quite annoyingApr 29 12:45
EruaranI'm in the mood for funApr 29 12:46
EruaranLets call up Larry Ellison and tell him he should sue Microsoft for patent infringementApr 29 12:46
schestowitzok, all hardware detected fineApr 29 12:49
schestowitzjono: my sound card  works fine here, I'm listening to your tuneApr 29 12:50
schestowitzEruaran: use ekigaApr 29 12:50
schestowitzI wonder if I should just settle in PCLOSApr 29 12:50
schestowitzI was gonna give Kubuntu a try tooApr 29 12:51
Omar87Peace, all! :)Apr 29 12:51
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Eruaranpeace Omar87Apr 29 12:57
EruaranI was pleasantly surprised by Kubuntu's level of polish in this versionApr 29 12:57
EruaranIt still lags behind Ubuntu but not so far behind this time... and of course KDE propels it forward a lotApr 29 12:58
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Omar87Eruaran, imho, KUbuntu is much better than Ubuntu. The only problem  is that KDE itself is so damn heavy.Apr 29 13:03
EruaranIn some waysApr 29 13:04
EruaranBut if you're like me and run mostly KDE apps its not so heavyApr 29 13:04
Eruaranshared librariesApr 29 13:04
Omar87Eruaran, yeah. But my problem with it is that's very memory and cpu hungry. I love all KDE apps. Gwenview, Okular, Amarok.. etc,Apr 29 13:06
EruaranCompared with Windows 7 its quite light ;)Apr 29 13:07
Omar87It's just that, my machines don't seem to tolerate them. Actually, sometimes they could barely tolerate Gnome itself.Apr 29 13:07
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Omar87Eruaran, oh yeah. I totally agree about that. :)Apr 29 13:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Happy Ubuntu Release day, all! No it is not out right now, but soon. Come and rock out in #ubuntu-release-party on freenode. #ubuntuApr 29 13:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Let's not forget to make #ubuntu a trending topic today, tell your friends! :-)Apr 29 13:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Discovered WE7 like Spotify but much better sound quality, web based so no need to use wine, which is a big plus on 8GB netbook.Apr 29 13:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, join the #ubuntu release party from your web browser at http://is.gd/bNh4BApr 29 13:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Six people in the last five mins have pinged me on Facebook asking when the new #ubuntu is out, just FYI, I don't know when it will land.Apr 29 13:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just rebooted for the first time in 161 days in order to try #PCLinuxOS 2010. it's great!Apr 29 13:11
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schestowitzI want to give kubuntu a try too.... among others...Apr 29 13:20
schestowitzLet's post some news to Twitter/IRCApr 29 13:20
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Omar87schestowitz, did you hear the recent Joomla news?Apr 29 13:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just rebooted for the first time in 161 days in order to try #PCLinuxOS 2010. it's great!Apr 29 18:26
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schestowitzI want to give kubuntu a try too.... among others...Apr 29 18:35
schestowitzLet's post some news to Twitter/IRCApr 29 18:36
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Omar87schestowitz, did you hear the recent Joomla news?Apr 29 18:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Excuse me sir., but please allow me to inform you that you, the Joomla community, are a bunch of complete ignorants, no offense. @joomlaApr 29 18:37
Omar87schestowitz, these people have completely lost it.Apr 29 18:37
ThistleWebwell, that was erm....politeApr 29 18:38
Omar87ThistleWeb, lol. :PApr 29 18:39
ThistleWebtalk about a way to not offend someoneApr 29 18:39
ThistleWebor a group of someonesApr 29 18:39
ThistleWebstill, if it works for yaApr 29 18:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Might co-author a paper in IEEE TMI soon.... excited about itApr 29 18:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] As far as I remember, that message wasn't targeted to you? Or was it? Please remind me. Thank you. @odaynasserApr 29 18:40
Omar87That might have been a harsh answer, but it's just that I've had enough arguing with him. I'm not in the mood for another debate now.Apr 29 18:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Sorry, but I don't remember asking for your opinion. Please don't tell me what I didn't ask for. Thanks a lot. :-) @odaynasserApr 29 18:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] House panel mulls bill to ease Cuban embargo http://is.gd/bNk4FApr 29 18:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I'm just being polite to you. You don't want me to say sorry? Okay then, I'm not sorry. Happy now? @odaynasserApr 29 18:48
ThistleWebI'm a drupal advocate, but I expected a proper story when you said "heard the recent Joomla news"Apr 29 18:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Ooops. Who's being impolite now? :) @odaynasserApr 29 18:51
Omar87ThistleWeb, I'm not talking to a Joomla guy.Apr 29 18:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Erk, 10.04. Brain not working today.Apr 29 18:53
Omar87ThistleWeb, that's a totlally different story.Apr 29 18:53
ThistleWebahhApr 29 18:53
Omar87ThistleWeb, the Joomla news is that Joomla is accepting MS code contribution.Apr 29 18:54
ThistleWebunder the same licence?Apr 29 18:54
Omar87ThistleWeb, they are willfully getting their code base desecrated by MS.Apr 29 18:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx is OUT! Congratulations to everyone for all their work on this landmark release! #ubuntuApr 29 18:54
Omar87ThistleWeb, I'm not sure.Apr 29 18:54
ThistleWebif it's under the same licence, then where's the problem? Sure, look closely at it, but why not?Apr 29 18:55
Omar87ThistleWeb, but regardless, I hardly believe MS would be doing any of that out of mere our good well.Apr 29 18:55
ThistleWebnah it'll be to get joomla working better on MS serversApr 29 18:56
Omar87mere pure** good d wellApr 29 18:56
ThistleWebself interestApr 29 18:56
MinceRgoodwillApr 29 18:56
Omar87ThistleWeb, true.Apr 29 18:56
Omar87ThistleWeb, who knows? Maybe MS is planning to buy Joomla sometime in the future?Apr 29 18:57
ThistleWebI'd be surprised if they didnt have all the major projects like drupal, wordpress etc in mind tooApr 29 18:57
ThistleWebmaybe so, but it's gpl as far as I knowApr 29 18:57
ThistleWebso all they get is the nameApr 29 18:57
Omar87ThistleWeb, of courseApr 29 18:57
Omar87ThistleWeb, yeah.Apr 29 18:57
ThistleWebthe project forks, and most of the devs and users shift to the new nameApr 29 18:57
ThistleWebit already forked from mamboApr 29 18:58
ThistleWebthey cant close it down by buying itApr 29 18:58
ThistleWebthey cant threaten it with patent violations if they submit the code under the gplApr 29 18:58
Omar87ThistleWeb, true.Apr 29 18:59
ThistleWebif the code is up to snuff, why not accept it?Apr 29 18:59
ThistleWebif it's not, then no matter who it comes from it would be rejectedApr 29 18:59
Omar87ThistleWeb, I think it can also be a form of "reputation laundry".Apr 29 18:59
ThistleWebprobablyApr 29 18:59
Omar87ThistleWeb, here comes the same old Mono debate. :)Apr 29 19:00
ThistleWebbut you think the joomla peeps would be convinced?Apr 29 19:00
ThistleWebmost of them are FOSS users who know MS's gameApr 29 19:00
ThistleWebthe only peeps affected are MS users trying to get joomla working on MS serversApr 29 19:00
Omar87ThistleWeb, if Mono is GPL, why not accept it too?Apr 29 19:01
Omar87It's the same issue. :)Apr 29 19:01
ThistleWeblol, I thought we were having a serious conversation there, my badApr 29 19:02
Omar87Unless MS has a very dirty game, I see no reason why they would do it. :)Apr 29 19:02
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sony sued for removing PS3 !Linux support http://ur1.ca/xxdfApr 29 19:02
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Offshore wind power ftw http://ur1.ca/xxdk !scienceApr 29 19:02
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux on the console? Sony sued for removing PS3 support .::. Size~: 30.34 KBApr 29 19:03
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Omar87ThistleWeb, excuse me?Apr 29 19:03
ThistleWebmono is not written by MS, it's done by others to follow MS tech which has known patentsApr 29 19:04
ThistleWebanything they submit DIRECTLY to another exsiting GPL project under the same GPL licence is NOT the same issueApr 29 19:04
Omar87I see.Apr 29 19:04
ThistleWebif someone else submitted it on their behalf then maybeApr 29 19:04
Omar87Thanks for the clarification. :-)Apr 29 19:04
ThistleWebtheres a chance that whatever code it has does infringe somehowApr 29 19:05
ThistleWebbut they do it directlyApr 29 19:05
ThistleWebthey dont hide behind any MS licence, they go GPLApr 29 19:05
Omar87I see.Apr 29 19:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] #ubuntu is trending on Twitter, let's keep up the momentum. :-)Apr 29 19:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera lol.... what occupation this time? He's pulled my leg about being a 00 agent..of course I'm not..Apr 29 19:05
ThistleWebmaybe they dont want to, but to get considered, they have toApr 29 19:05
Omar87So, basically, I think it's all about reputation laundry.Apr 29 19:06
Omar87Thanks. :)Apr 29 19:06
ThistleWebif THEY submit it, what chance have they got in saying "hey you're infringing our patents" "well YOU made the code and submitted it"Apr 29 19:06
Omar87bblApr 29 19:06
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EruaranMicrosoft is a patent troll blatently racketeering.Apr 29 19:08
EruaranI would dearly love to see a company or a judge with some balls put an end to this once and for all.Apr 29 19:09
ThistleWebof course they areApr 29 19:09
EruaranI think HTC is the most blatant case yet.Apr 29 19:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin I must say I was more than a little suspicious that a lawyer would be working shifts :) Felt my leg being pulled as well.Apr 29 19:09
EruaranI can't believe the US-DOJ doesn't look at that and immediately launch an investigation and demand the specifics be made public. But, it is the M$-DOJ really...Apr 29 19:11
EruarangtgApr 29 19:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow, my #ubuntu 10.04 announcement tweet is the top tweet on the twitter.com front page right now :-)Apr 29 19:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay, my #ubuntu Lucid T-shirt has arrived :)Apr 29 19:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The tweet I am referring to is at http://is.gd/bNmsw #ubuntuApr 29 19:20
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schestowitzOmar87-away: take it easy with JoomlaApr 29 19:21
schestowitzNot productive to curse themApr 29 19:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @humphreybc: Need a hand to install Ubuntu 10.04? Check out Getting Started with #Ubuntu: http://ubuntu-manual.orgApr 29 19:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sony #PS3 Gets #GNU #Linux Again, Sony Sued http://ur1.ca/xxit http://ur1.ca/xxiu http://ur1.ca/xxivApr 29 19:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Hacker says he’s got Linux on the PS3 again | Tech News, Reviews, Business, Health News and More .::. Size~: 50.09 KBApr 29 19:33
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TechrightsBotTitle: Sony Sued For Removal Of Linux Support From PS3 - PS3 News at IGN  .::. Size~: 102.38 KBApr 29 19:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Explanation from #African About #FreeSoftware Adoption Hurdles http://ur1.ca/xxj5 #gnu #linuxApr 29 19:34
TechrightsBotTitle: The Linux-Vendor Factors- Part of the FOSS adoption problems in Africa | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 92.5 KBApr 29 19:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux Academy in Hyderabad; #LinuxFest Coverage http://ur1.ca/xxj1 http://ur1.ca/xxj2Apr 29 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop Clusters With #GNU #Linux - Ten Seats from One Box http://www.blogsdna.com/9385/how-to-turn-your-linux-pc-into-2-for-free.htmApr 29 19:35
TechrightsBotTitle:  ‘Taashee Linux Academy’ Inaugurated in Hyderabad   | Education News Portal from Hyderabad   .::. Size~: 55.27 KBApr 29 19:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #McAfee Thinks "Windows" Means "Computer", 'Forgets' #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/xxjwApr 29 19:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Doesn't Exist; Hacking Is Crime | Katonda .::. Size~: 30.07 KBApr 29 19:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Articles Explain Where #GNU #Linux Surpasses OS X and #Windows http://ur1.ca/xxk5 http://ur1.ca/xxk6Apr 29 19:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Question: Why switch to Linux or a Mac? | ITworld .::. Size~: 83.15 KBApr 29 19:40
TechrightsBotTitle:  Why Ubuntu excites me more than Windows or Macintosh - Times Online  .::. Size~: 107.94 KBApr 29 19:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video-on-demand Done with #Linux ; How to Spin One's Own #PVR http://ur1.ca/xxke http://ur1.ca/xxkgApr 29 19:41
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Omar87schestowitz, true.Apr 29 19:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #GNU #Linux is Not a "Hobbyist's OS" http://ur1.ca/xxkw http://ur1.ca/xxkxApr 29 19:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thank You Everyone For Ubuntu 10.04 - http://is.gd/bNo6I #ubuntuApr 29 19:43
TechrightsBotTitle: The Hobbyists OS | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 16.7 KBApr 29 19:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft welcomes the pirates and then sinks them? + Linux usage may be wrong? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 45.68 KBApr 29 19:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Custom-made #GNU #Linux Workspaces: Images and Fun http://ur1.ca/xxl9 http://ur1.ca/xxlaApr 29 19:45
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TechrightsBotTitle: 15 Stunning Linux Desktop Customizations - Must Watch! | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 92.73 KBApr 29 19:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] High-Tier Servers: Where is Microsoft? Not Supported Yet, Just #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/xxln http://ur1.ca/xxloApr 29 19:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Platform kicks out HPC Enterprise Edition • The Register .::. Size~: 33.23 KBApr 29 19:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Preparation for #Linux Plumbers Conference, T-shirt Design Finalists http://ur1.ca/xxop http://ur1.ca/xxoq #kernelApr 29 19:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Arrivals at #Linux #Graphics Stack, Funding http://ur1.ca/xxow http://ur1.ca/xxox http://ur1.ca/xxoyApr 29 19:59
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Plumbers Conference 2010 Call for Track Ideas [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.35 KBApr 29 19:59
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] AMD Catalyst 10.4 For Linux Officially Released .::. Size~: 16.02 KBApr 29 19:59
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TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] What Do You Want From NVIDIA's Next Driver? .::. Size~: 18.1 KBApr 29 19:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Eschalon Book II Comes Soon, Scorched 3D Intrduced http://ur1.ca/xxpz http://ur1.ca/xxq0 #gnu #linuxApr 29 20:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Games for #GNU #Linux: Speed Dreams, Osmos http://ur1.ca/xxps http://ur1.ca/xxptApr 29 20:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Gaming News  » Blog Archive   » Eschalon: Book II Release Date Announced ! .::. Size~: 30.03 KBApr 29 20:04
TechrightsBotTitle: SourceForge.net: Scorched 3D is one hot battle game .::. Size~: 24.63 KBApr 29 20:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Speed Dreams 3D motorsport simulator updated - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.12 KBApr 29 20:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Linux Gaming News  » Blog Archive   » Osmos For GNU/Linux Has Been Released ! .::. Size~: 32.24 KBApr 29 20:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Openbox Freedom Day, K Desktop Environment (KDE SC) Runs on/Targets #MeeGo http://ur1.ca/xxqa http://ur1.ca/xmwoApr 29 20:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Riots outside Relate offices as Christian therapist loses appeal bid http://is.gd/bNq6eApr 29 20:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] WE7 V spotify sound quality. I don't care what spotify say, after much comparing of the two, WE7 sound quality is way better. Bye spotify.Apr 29 20:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CDlinux 0.9.6.1 in Review http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/04/27/cdlinux-0-9-6-1/Apr 29 20:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Saleem Khan on Unity #Linux , Ali Jahangiri on Live Hacking CD http://ur1.ca/xxro http://ur1.ca/xxrpApr 29 20:13
MinceRhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/steve_jobs_speaks_why_we_dont_allow_flash_on_iphone_and_ipad.phpApr 29 20:13
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TechrightsBotTitle: Steve Jobs Speaks: Why We Don't Allow Flash on iPhones and iPads  .::. Size~: 71.04 KBApr 29 20:13
MinceR"1. It's proprietary."Apr 29 20:13
MinceRi lol'dApr 29 20:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Right. Is !ubuntu 10.10 out yet?Apr 29 20:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Massive grin on my face. Not sure if its the #Ubuntu release, leadership debate, #oggcamp or this here curry and beer. Maybe all of them.Apr 29 20:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Gets More Permissive http://ur1.ca/xxvx http://ur1.ca/xhij http://ur1.ca/xl7dApr 29 20:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What's New in #Fedora 13, Other Fedora Bits http://ur1.ca/xxw3 http://ur1.ca/xxw4 http://ur1.ca/xxw5Apr 29 20:29
TechrightsBotTitle: What is new in Fedora 13 ? |Linux and Microcontroller Tips .::. Size~: 129.61 KBApr 29 20:29
TechrightsBotTitle: AdamW on Linux and more  » Blog Archive   » When QA Works: X.org and memory leaks and crashes, oh my .::. Size~: 30.01 KBApr 29 20:29
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TechrightsBotTitle:   Bugs in Debian GNU/Linux at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 25.21 KBApr 29 20:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 10.04 Released; Variant #EasyPeasy Reaches RC http://ur1.ca/xxwy http://ur1.ca/xxwz http://ur1.ca/xxx0Apr 29 20:36
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TechrightsBotTitle: Canonical's Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop Edition Features Three Years of Support, Online Music Store, New Look and Social Network Integration  .::. Size~: 31.15 KBApr 29 20:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Storage Focused on #Linux at its Centre http://ur1.ca/xxx8 http://ur1.ca/xxx9Apr 29 20:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Congrats! RT @rajeeshknambiar: Promoted :-)Apr 29 20:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Phone Companies Rally Around #Linux in #Japan http://ur1.ca/xxzc http://ur1.ca/xxzdApr 29 20:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HP Buys #Palm and Might Make Tablets With #webOS (Linux) http://ur1.ca/xxzt http://ur1.ca/xq3i http://ur1.ca/xxzuApr 29 20:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android News and New Wins in the Market http://ur1.ca/xy0r http://ur1.ca/xy0s http://ur1.ca/xy0t http://ur1.ca/xy0uApr 29 20:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM Sub-notebooks (Running Only #GNU / #Linux ) Get Powerful, Quad-Core http://ur1.ca/xy1gApr 29 21:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNU #Linux and FOSS Events in the Americas http://ur1.ca/xy2q http://ur1.ca/xy2sApr 29 21:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Counting down to Pengicon .::. Size~: 40.71 KBApr 29 21:04
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TechrightsBotTitle: IT News Online >  -  - Open Source Search Developers and Industry Experts to gather in Prague for Inaugural Apache Lucene EMEA Conference .::. Size~: 24.05 KBApr 29 21:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #FreeSoftware Blu-ray Encoder, Open Source #Symbian Phones http://ur1.ca/xy33 http://ur1.ca/xy34Apr 29 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Finally I am downloading ubuntu 10.04 using Torrent #ubuntu #lucidApr 29 21:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] _ @kinshuksunil Yaar 10.04 din bhar kaise use kar sakte ho? raat 9 baje tak to release hi nahi hua tha !! #ubuntuApr 29 21:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Proves to be Appealing to Developers and Users Alike http://topnews.us/content/217764-workers-lured-open-sourceApr 29 21:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Australia 's National Library Relies on #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/xy57Apr 29 21:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Adds #Linux Focus With #Android Port http://blog.vlad1.com/2010/04/27/fennec-on-android-ground-zero/ #firefoxApr 29 21:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Luminary Recognised by the German Authorities http://blogs.fsfe.org/greve/?p=403 congrats to GreveApr 29 21:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Sentado quase nas grades que separam a plateia do palco onde vao actuar os Mao Morta. Esta quase... espero q o Adolfo nao corte a perna ;)Apr 29 21:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Dissent Seen Across the World, More ACTA Lies http://ur1.ca/xyb5 http://ur1.ca/xyb7 http://ur1.ca/xyb8Apr 29 21:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] HOWTO: mirror a censored WordPress blog http://is.gd/bNwFOApr 29 21:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill Loopholes Found, Deception Found in #BPI http://ur1.ca/xybs http://ur1.ca/xybt http://ur1.ca/xl8vApr 29 21:48
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schestowitz"@schestowitz try PCLinuxOS ..it is one of the best KDE distro out there" http://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30475440Apr 29 21:59
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30391633#notice-30477402 "@xopher @richslxh @johnnybrommie @schestowitz What bout archlinux and chraka? Are the actual !kde desktops tweaked better in other distros?"Apr 29 22:00
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schestowitz@schestowitz Quite a lot people have the same symptoms after trying Chakra :) http://identi.ca/conversation/30372446#notice-30477588Apr 29 22:01
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schestowitzEnder2070: thanks, let's try itApr 29 22:01
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30478041 "@schestowitz I would recommend you to "risk" with !chakra for a great experience with latest !KDE SC releases."Apr 29 22:02
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schestowitzPCLos has an iffy default themeApr 29 22:02
schestowitz"@schestowitz test !kubuntu if you like to have an !KDE SC 4.4 distro, that keeps upstream artwork"  http://identi.ca/conversation/30364712#notice-30479069Apr 29 22:02
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schestowitzblending Linux... "@schestowitz ah, but will they blend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko ( yes, yutoob :/ )" http://identi.ca/conversation/30409990#notice-30496744Apr 29 22:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @forteller #Osmos is a new game for Linux. It's only $10. Buy to support commercial apps on Linux! http://ur1.ca/xxptApr 29 22:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The #leadersdebate is showing what happens when politicians take tabloid bile seriously. Vote the Murdoch Party out.Apr 29 22:04
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stan_qazI've been reading here for a while and find the links section frustrating as I never read it, would it be possible to get a link added above the links section to take me down to the first article below the links section?Apr 29 22:04
schestowitzstan_qaz: possible but not simple Apr 29 22:06
schestowitzYou could hit the "leftovers" linkApr 29 22:06
schestowitz"@gbraad @schestowitz  thanks for the news about #ARM i've did #programming it for a while and i'm happy to see it is always alive" http://identi.ca/conversation/30410847#notice-30503578Apr 29 22:06
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schestowitzstan_qaz: basically, I use red colours in the background to distinguishApr 29 22:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC It's about time you put in an appearance, you can't expect to have a whole week off :)Apr 29 22:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Any application for LAN Quiz Exam ?? http://groups.google.com/group/iitdlug/browse_thread/thread/56bf114feb5a8fc9Apr 29 22:18
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stan_qazThe red background is a help but it is a lot of scrolling when the links section gets long. My mouse wheel finger gets a good workout and I was hoping to avoid that. No big deal I'll keep reading and forwarding articles to a few friends.Apr 29 22:26
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schestowitzstan_qaz: I see what you mean...Apr 29 22:31
schestowitzhat if I abbreviated it in front page?Apr 29 22:31
schestowitzWith "click to read on"Apr 29 22:31
stan_qazI'm not sure what moving the links section would do to your google hits so that would have to be looked at. Moving it would be just fine for me since I don't use the links section. I don't want to suggest any change that might aggravate other users and I figured adding the link to skip down was the least intrusive thing I could think of.Apr 29 22:34
schestowitzI see what you mean thoughApr 29 22:39
schestowitzI thought about it before, but the issue is that when abbreviated the jumpers won't workApr 29 22:39
schestowitzLinks are actually our most popular feature.... and we have more regular readers than referrals from Google, so that's not the issueApr 29 22:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'll try #kubuntu now, thanks for those who suggested trying it.Apr 29 22:42
stan_qazIf the links move to their own page wouldn't be a problem then that would work great for me. It would make it easier to just send folks the base link to the site too instead of having to send them one to a specific story so they don't bog down in the links section and miss the stories I send them here for.Apr 29 22:43
schestowitzI see......Apr 29 22:48
schestowitzAnyway, back in a moment (hopefully). Trying Kubuntu 10.04 ... might take some hoursApr 29 22:48
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stan_qazHope you like it, I really miss the pre-Novell SuSE KDE distributions.Apr 29 17:34
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_goblinhi allApr 29 18:29
Ender2070opensuse is looking good tooApr 29 18:32
Ender207011.3 is at leastApr 29 18:32
Ender2070w/ KDEApr 29 18:32
_goblinbooApr 29 18:33
_goblinKDEApr 29 18:33
_goblinI wish I could like it.Apr 29 18:33
Ender2070lolApr 29 18:33
_goblinI think Mandriva put me off KDEApr 29 18:34
Ender2070mandriva is a poor exampleApr 29 18:34
_goblinoriginallyApr 29 18:34
Ender2070i think the best kde distro would have to be one that kept KDE up to date with upstreamApr 29 18:34
Ender2070ie, Fedora which has 4.4.2 in it's F12 updates repoApr 29 18:35
_goblinagreed, however KDE just for me doesn't quite work.......I don't know if Ive said this to you before, but when using KDE I think............Apr 29 18:35
_goblinplasticApr 29 18:35
_goblinclunkyApr 29 18:35
_goblincheapApr 29 18:35
_goblinvistaesqueApr 29 18:35
Ender2070thats how i felt about 3.xApr 29 18:36
_goblinand I don't feel in "control"Apr 29 18:36
Ender2070i feel that way about gnome nowApr 29 18:36
_goblinagreedApr 29 18:36
_goblinXfceApr 29 18:36
_goblinis my choice now.Apr 29 18:36
Ender2070Xfce is pretty goodApr 29 18:36
Ender2070not so light anymore thoughApr 29 18:36
Ender2070LXDE is a good choice tooApr 29 18:37
_goblinIt is with WolvixApr 29 18:37
Ender2070oh yeahApr 29 18:37
_goblinIve got a Q&A coming up with the Wolvix creatorApr 29 18:37
_goblinoff topic: apparently Roy thinks I am a lawyer.Apr 29 18:38
Ender2070lolApr 29 18:38
_goblinfor the record - Im not.Apr 29 18:38
_goblinIm far too good looking for starters ;)Apr 29 18:38
Ender2070i was thinking of checking out slackware itself but gcc 4.3 scared me awayApr 29 18:38
_goblinhave you given Wolvix a try?Apr 29 18:38
ThistleWebwolvix 2 any closer to rc?Apr 29 18:39
Ender2070no, i assume its using the same gccApr 29 18:39
_goblinyep, they've just released build 56....of beta 2.....having said that Ive been running beta 2 for over a year. Apr 29 18:39
_goblin- on my main rig.Apr 29 18:39
Ender2070beta 2 for over a year?Apr 29 18:40
Ender2070is dev that slow?Apr 29 18:40
ThistleWebit does not have many peeps working on it as far as I knowApr 29 18:42
Ender2070yeah sounds like itApr 29 18:43
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ThistleWebit's a nice distro thoughApr 29 18:43
Ender2070im sure it is for its target audienceApr 29 18:43
Ender2070i just dont happen to be it, lolApr 29 18:43
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Ender2070im a bleeding edge advocateApr 29 18:44
Ender2070hence running fedora prereleaseApr 29 18:44
Ender2070opensuse 11.3 is looking good imo, gcc 4.5Apr 29 18:47
Ender2070milestone 6 just hit shelves todayApr 29 18:48
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_goblingnApr 29 18:58
_goblinSaw something strange on the train tonight........Apr 29 19:13
_goblina whole carrage of passengers just staring at each other.......Apr 29 19:13
_goblinlooked like a scene out of the body snatchers.Apr 29 19:13
ThistleWebgoats staring at you suspiciously?Apr 29 19:13
ThistleWebclose lolApr 29 19:13
_goblinand rather unnerving.Apr 29 19:13
_goblinso you know what I did?Apr 29 19:13
ThistleWebthey were all trying to practice the Demon Heamaster trickApr 29 19:13
_goblinI got up and walked to another carrage.....it really was bizzare.Apr 29 19:14
_goblinmaybe it was candid camera or something....Apr 29 19:14
ThistleWebyou could have done a lil jig in the ailseApr 29 19:14
_goblinthey may have body snatched me for that.Apr 29 19:14
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ThistleWebthey may have been in a trance and needed a bit of an unexpected giggle to break them freeApr 29 19:15
_goblinor they could have wanted to invade my body and do disturbing things to me.Apr 29 19:15
_goblinrather just leave them to it.Apr 29 19:15
ThistleWeb"disturbing" is all down to personal tastes lolApr 29 19:15
_goblinOn a serious note though, out of all the experiences in my life, that really did disturb me.....Apr 29 19:16
_goblinmore that I couldn't explain it.Apr 29 19:16
_goblinI blame BR...Apr 29 19:17
_goblinhaving said that the next carrage was just as bad, although this stunk of stale booze and was noisyApr 29 19:17
_goblinHad a chance to check out Buntu 10.04 last night....Apr 29 19:18
_goblinvery impressed.Apr 29 19:18
ThistleWebnext time, get a train with football supporters going to or from a matchApr 29 19:18
_goblinyeah, I don't think I'll bother.....Im going to be driving to work as of next week since im at a easier workplace.Apr 29 19:19
_goblinwhich is not through London's labyrinth of roads.Apr 29 19:20
_goblinIve got a joke....please nobody feel the need to laugh, but I think its good, in a geeky sort of way......:Apr 29 19:21
ThistleWebnow you built it upApr 29 19:21
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_goblinTwo bytes meet in the doctors surgery, one byte says to the other "Are you feeling unwell?" and the byte replies....."Yes I'm a bit off"Apr 29 19:22
_goblinI thought it was good anyway.Apr 29 19:23
_goblinsomeone google chatted it to me on my phone the other day.Apr 29 19:23
ThistleWebbadoom TSHApr 29 19:23
_goblinIts good though to catch out the people who laugh at any joke and pretend to understand.....Apr 29 19:24
_goblinI tried it at work, a few people laughed, but when challenged couldn't tell me what was funny.Apr 29 19:24
ThistleWebmaybe it was the buildup of "here's a joke guys, are you ready for it, sure?"Apr 29 19:26
ThistleWebjust throwing it out woulda gotten more laughs methinksApr 29 19:26
_goblinyou from the UK?Apr 29 19:26
ThistleWebyaApr 29 19:26
_goblinIve probably asked before, but where top middle or bottom?Apr 29 19:26
ThistleWebscotlandApr 29 19:27
ThistleWeb<<clue is in the name lolApr 29 19:27
Ender2070_goblin - maybe they all thought each other were terroristsApr 29 19:27
_goblinlovely place...Yeah I think I remember now....Apr 29 19:27
_goblinI did say I went to Heriot Watt Uni?Apr 29 19:27
ThistleWebmaybeApr 29 19:28
Ender2070_goblin - do you look like a terrorist?Apr 29 19:28
_goblinIm not sureApr 29 19:28
_goblinwhat does a terrorist look like?Apr 29 19:28
_goblinif terrorists have a goatee beard and a cowboy hat, then probably.Apr 29 19:28
Ender2070im not sureApr 29 19:28
Ender2070terrorists usually have beardsApr 29 19:29
ThistleWebone who creates terror - could be applied to political cabinetsApr 29 19:29
_goblinthat would be my wife.Apr 29 19:29
_goblinshe creates terror.Apr 29 19:29
ThistleWebthe beard?Apr 29 19:29
_goblinlolApr 29 19:29
ThistleWebohApr 29 19:29
Ender2070lolApr 29 19:29
_goblinyou know her?Apr 29 19:29
ThistleWebby reputationApr 29 19:29
Ender2070well you know statistics sayApr 29 19:29
_goblinI won't tell her that....you wouldn't be safe even in Scotland....Apr 29 19:29
Ender2070the person next to you is either a terrorist, or has swine fluApr 29 19:30
ThistleWebbeards can be quite fetchingApr 29 19:30
_goblinyou just know that someone will paste this conversation somewhere....probably one of the LinxxxApr 29 19:30
_goblin"Goblin's wife has a beard"Apr 29 19:30
ThistleWebyeah, in the "how to get a sense of humour" tutorial sectionApr 29 19:30
Ender2070lol im sure they dont want any popularityApr 29 19:31
Ender2070they openly talk about pirating microsoft products in their forums, etcApr 29 19:31
_goblinIve only been there a few times....Apr 29 19:31
_goblinto be fair, not all members are like that....Apr 29 19:31
Ender2070no but they are all a bunch of brainwashed teenagersApr 29 19:32
_goblinIve spoken to one or two in IRC and they seem quite ashamed of what others do.Apr 29 19:32
ThistleWebyet they still choose to hang out thereApr 29 19:32
_goblin"timestandstill" (i think thats his handle) is actually quite a nice chap.Apr 29 19:32
Ender2070'linux suxx, cause we got .NET for free'Apr 29 19:32
_goblinI think some of them merely cop the hump at what they see as aggressive Linux promotion.Apr 29 19:33
_goblinin terms of Linux/FOSS they have no problem in general.Apr 29 19:33
_goblinThats my view, I could be wrong and there are members of that group who are very dubious individuals.Apr 29 19:33
ThistleWebmaybe they just think "sucks" is a term of endeerment, like "that's soooooooooooo baad" meaning "that's so cool"Apr 29 19:34
Ender2070yeah sir sane for exampleApr 29 19:34
ThistleWebspecially if it's spelled wrongApr 29 19:34
_goblinI don't think Ive had many dealings with SirSaneApr 29 19:34
_goblinor ViperchiefApr 29 19:34
Ender2070nutbars in their own rightApr 29 19:34
ThistleWebI dunno any of these names, I think I visited once out of curiosity after they spent a few hours trolling this channel, and found like 1 articleApr 29 19:35
ThistleWebunless I'm thinking of another siteApr 29 19:35
_goblinIm not convinced though that all their members are genuine....The site shows quite a few different active handles but yet the channel never has more than about 6 users in it.Apr 29 19:35
ThistleWebnot everyone uses forums and irc thoughApr 29 19:36
ThistleWebI tend not to use forumsApr 29 19:36
_goblintrue, but theres never any chat there either....Apr 29 19:36
_goblinyou would expect something if the site is as popular as the forums indicate.Apr 29 19:37
ThistleWebtrueApr 29 19:37
ThistleWebunless they're all in the same neighbourhood and have a short time slot before bedtime after homeworkApr 29 19:37
_goblinMaybe Lefty reads them the bedtime story.Apr 29 19:37
Ender2070that wouldn't leave them much time to fondle each other eitherApr 29 19:38
Ender2070+1Apr 29 19:38
Ender2070'The Three Little Limo-based Phones and the Big Bad Google'Apr 29 19:38
_goblinIve tried to give Lefty the benefit of the doubt, but when you see him with associations like the Linxxx community....you have to wonder.Apr 29 19:39
_goblinI don't see any other "respected" tech person, associating with them.Apr 29 19:39
ThistleWebis that the same lefty who the ubuntu podcast are always talking to?Apr 29 19:39
ThistleWebthe one with harlem and nickApr 29 19:40
ThistleWeblefty fb I thinkApr 29 19:40
Ender2070hes on that?Apr 29 19:40
ThistleWebI dunno if its the same guyApr 29 19:40
ThistleWebthats what I;m wondreingApr 29 19:40
Ender2070http://videos.linuxfoundation.org/video/1015Apr 29 19:40
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Ender2070everyone needs to see this videoApr 29 19:41
Ender2070lefty gets owned by just about everyone there but intelApr 29 19:41
Ender2070lefty gets super pissed at the google repApr 29 19:41
Ender2070its old but amusing stillApr 29 19:43
_goblinI don't think Ive seen it....Apr 29 19:43
_goblinIm watching nowApr 29 19:43
Ender2070he tries to tell the google rep that the carriers wont allow google to let users install any app they wantApr 29 19:43
Ender2070roflApr 29 19:43
Ender2070*they do*Apr 29 19:43
_goblinHe's a very bad public speaker.....Apr 29 19:44
Ender2070the speaker at one point asks lefty a question and mentions that theres zero limo devices out there, and shames himApr 29 19:44
_goblinhe's nervous, twitching his hand....not having eye contact with anything for more than seconds....Apr 29 19:44
Ender2070hes a funny guy to watchApr 29 19:45
_goblinhead bows when introducing himself.....he's got a self image/esteem problem (IMHO)Apr 29 19:45
_goblinspeaking as an expert in judging human behaviour.Apr 29 19:45
Ender2070lol are you?Apr 29 19:45
_goblinyes... I would say so...Apr 29 19:46
_goblinI have to make judgement calls often on peoples behaviour.Apr 29 19:46
_goblinarms held towards chest......Apr 29 19:47
_goblindefence possition.Apr 29 19:47
Ender2070that one means hes defensiveApr 29 19:47
_goblinmore scared.Apr 29 19:47
_goblindefence stances tend to be more agressive.Apr 29 19:47
_goblinthis is the covering submitting animal type stance.Apr 29 19:47
_goblin*coweringApr 29 19:47
Ender2070he does get agressive towards the endApr 29 19:47
Ender2070he gets confrontational with the google guyApr 29 19:48
_goblinhe gets over his stage nerves when his adrenalin kicks in.Apr 29 19:48
_goblinmost people when in front of an audience will relax (even a little if they are very nervous) as they spend more time in front of them.Apr 29 19:48
Ender2070yeahApr 29 19:49
_goblinand he is very nervous....Apr 29 19:50
_goblinhis hands just can't keep stillApr 29 19:50
_goblinand he keeps looking to the speaker for agreement....he should be addressing the audience.Apr 29 19:50
Ender2070the speaker keeps owning him thoughApr 29 19:50
_goblinfocus in on a friendly single face instead of a large audience....Apr 29 19:50
Ender2070so i can see whyApr 29 19:50
_goblineven an adversary is easier to focus on than a large audience...Apr 29 19:51
_goblinimho he is terrified.Apr 29 19:51
Ender2070lolApr 29 19:51
_goblincompare him to the other panel members, look how they hold themselves....Apr 29 19:51
Ender2070yeah they have no problemApr 29 19:52
_goblinthis is facinating stuff, Ive never seen Lefty in action.Apr 29 19:52
Ender2070i have another link tooApr 29 19:52
_goblinIm sure he's a very nice chap.........Apr 29 19:52
Ender2070for another videoApr 29 19:52
Ender2070lol the other one im talking about he attacks google againApr 29 19:53
_goblinI think the best speaker is the guy furthest to the right.....notice how he leans into the audience as he speaks.....thats confidence, passion and an undeniable belief in what he says is correct.Apr 29 19:54
Ender2070the google guy?Apr 29 19:54
_goblinMr ChuApr 29 19:55
_goblinyeah google.Apr 29 19:55
_goblinnow he is impressive...Apr 29 19:55
Ender2070yeah he isApr 29 19:56
Ender2070lefty attacks himApr 29 19:56
_goblinnow whilst we all laugh at Ballmer and his behaviour on stage....he is a very good example of a fearless man.....Apr 29 19:57
_goblinhe is probably the most confident, self assured personality Ive ever seen.Apr 29 19:57
_goblinof course his traits would also be impatience, short temper and probably rudeness.....however he would be a formidable personality to take on (IMHO)Apr 29 19:58
Ender2070he works at google, he probably has a lot of self confidenceApr 29 19:58
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_goblinIf I wasn't so tired I would watch the rest of that....Apr 29 20:00
Ender2070:)Apr 29 20:01
_goblinWhat I like about Mr Chu, He introduces his answer by looking at the chairman, then addresses his answer to the audience.....Apr 29 20:01
_goblinI am guessing here....but did lefty remarry?Apr 29 20:03
Ender2070no ideaApr 29 20:03
_goblinring on thumb.....in the UK often a sign of a failed marriage but still an emotional attachment to that marrage....hence the ring on thumbApr 29 20:03
_goblinof course Im only guessing.Apr 29 20:03
_goblinoh and he's trying to copy my goatee beard!Apr 29 20:04
_goblinso he must be a man of great taste since he wants to be like Goblin ;)Apr 29 20:04
_goblinRight....IM done for the night.Apr 29 20:07
_goblin....smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.Apr 29 20:07
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Agent-SmithGood evening folksApr 29 21:16
Agent-SmithI wonder what China will do with all those IP lawsuits...Apr 29 21:19
Agent-SmithSince China is a country where copying and manucfaturing run wild...Apr 29 21:20
Agent-Smitheuropean and american products, that isApr 29 21:20
Agent-SmithClone knock offs of european and american productsApr 29 21:21
cubezzz"Wind CS120 Nettop can save about 90% on electricity."Apr 29 21:29
cubezzz35 wattsApr 29 21:29
cubezzzunfortunately you pay the Microsoft tax on it :-/Apr 29 21:30
cubezzzour current computers will probably be considered power pigs in the futureApr 29 21:30
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Agent-SmithWell, I'm calling it a night folksApr 29 22:09
Agent-SmithGood nightApr 29 22:09
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cubezzznow this is a desktop computer!Apr 29 22:29
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Museum_of_Science,_Boston,_MA_-_IMG_3163.JPGApr 29 22:29
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT @achitnis: Eight ways to demotivate your team. See yourself in there? http://bit.ly/9TMbKXApr 30 00:32
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30457445#notice-30546208 "@schestowitz come on, you know you like the new !kubuntu :)"Apr 30 01:56
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schestowitzWorks OK so far.Apr 30 01:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30457445#notice-30546483 "@schestowitz what distro are you currently using?"Apr 30 01:57
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schestowitzI tried PCLinuxOS last and right now I'm giving Kubuntu a goApr 30 01:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] charging the tomtom for the journey to Liverpool for #oggcampApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do anybody know how to change lucid plymouth spalsh screen from commad line? #ubuntuApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What is so special about SchoolOS - Gobotype FSH + Project roadmap http://post.ly/e74XApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] So looking forward to Liverpool tomorrowApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@DarthNader RT @yagbebi I abhor <thing>. It is NOT a religion,but a lifestyle //next step: dehumanise <group> & we all know where this endsApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Indian telecoms ban Chinese equipment over back-door suspicions. Ha! #India #China http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/29/1830221Apr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Odd hearing @mollywood mention Jeremy Clarkson on Buzz Out Loud.Apr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera ah, that one...I preferred 00 Goblin License to FOSS.Apr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hoarders - #ebay edition. Oh wait, that's my house...Apr 30 02:07
TechrightsBotTitle:         What is so special about SchoolOS - Gobotype FSH + Project roadmap - LUG@IITD Community Blog     .::. Size~: 32.23 KBApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear lulu.com. Let me know total cost _before_ I punch in my credit card number. Seriously, online store 101 fail.Apr 30 02:07
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot | India, China Try Import Regulations As Security Tools .::. Size~: 135.74 KBApr 30 02:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Search Engines Modelled On Politicians | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/38czt8zApr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "He often wore a face like the Fat Controller trying to wee through a Hula Hoop without splashing the sides." http://is.gd/bNGUd #ge2010Apr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @5MillionPeople Massive #oil spill spreading too fast to contain... http://bit.ly/b0Sepv #environment #bp #palin #gop #energyApr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @careabthealth not 1 homeless person in #Cuba, universal #hcr, they have learned to grow #food w/o pesticides. they had to make it work.Apr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Golly Tim Minchin really is quite a clever chap. Like++Apr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rww via @chrissaad Open not Enough. Interoperable next http://bit.ly/cpG0pn //monopolies loathe&debase both concepts. #facebook #microsoftApr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading to the Thirsty Bear in San Francisco soon for the Ubuntu Release Party! #ubuntuApr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Beckbasher RT @_Va_Fongool fucking lesbian communist w/no family..u don't have any kids so u don't give a fuck //beck's ppl; always classyApr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What's the reaction among #Brazil ians to the #Arizona #AZ papers-please law? http://bit.ly/94mPVO duas palavras: CONTRA. BOICOTE!Apr 30 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego I have a certificate of life birth that does not have a doctor's signature // stay out of #AZ ;)Apr 30 02:08
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TechrightsBotTitle:   Open is not enough. Time to raise the bar: Interoperable | Chris Saad  Paying Attention .::. Size~: 29.79 KBApr 30 02:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego hey Sarah #palin, how's that "drill, baby, drill" working out for you now? //no doubt she finds the catastrophe acceptableApr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego you'll enjoy her updated views on #immigration. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591654,00.html #palin #azApr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@smokinjoe101 Did you think I was an #Obama fan? I don't care what the WH says or does.Apr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RE: @72831048 Local jobbing printer anticipates DTP font soup. Rockwell, Copperplate, Gill, really? ;-) http://disq.us/dlsegApr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Schandalig: geen enkel woord over Ubuntu 10.04 release op Webwereld. Wat een Microsoft PR site! Boycotten die handel!!!Apr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@AisleOne I still can't seem to fully figure out when to use a dash instead of a comma // parenthetical dashes more emphatic breakApr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@pareidoliac why don't human rights activists challenge bans on nudity in both islamic & secular states? // prob b/c bigger fish are fryingApr 30 02:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GlennBeckClips #Obama in evry “green” #energy project..stands to be a billionaire //wait a min, making piles $$ under table is WRONG now??Apr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GlennBeckClips Imagine, by quitting presidency TODAY, all that money could he his much sooner! #Palin By ComparisonApr 30 02:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@smokinjoe101 see my last tweet to you. #Obama is not *my* spokesman.Apr 30 02:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rjurney #Snorcle gets up to 12 cores in 1RU. #sun #oracle http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/x86/030275.htmApr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The Friedmanesque trope "developing world" can now be paired with the "unravelling world".Apr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #Sony sued for removal of #Linux support from #PS3: http://is.gd/bO2zUApr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Trying #kubuntu 10.0 at the moment, not decided yetApr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@LusciousPear OH: "Paul Graham is one of my #gay #programming heroes." #lolwut // well, he speaks with a #LispApr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Ed Felten weighs in. Worth a read. - India's Electronic Voting Machines Have Security Problems: http://j.mp/ajO7HqApr 30 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Worth a read. - ACTA: Impact On India and Other Developing Countries: http://j.mp/bD5ZZMApr 30 02:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@valdiskrebs We're so good at creating problems "no one could have predicted" //except the Rapture! Same idiots are totally prep'd for thatApr 30 02:10
TechrightsBotTitle: Sony Sued For Removal Of Linux Support From PS3 - PS3 News at IGN  .::. Size~: 102.25 KBApr 30 02:10
TechrightsBotTitle: India's Electronic Voting Machines Have Security Problems | Freedom to Tinker .::. Size~: 29.16 KBApr 30 02:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Staff dude at Yarra #Trams called me back for a detailed 20 min chat about fare evasion policy. How's that 4 customer relations! #melbourneApr 30 02:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fare evasion is epidemic in #Melbourne - city of freeloaders, apparently - tram operators caught in the middle. Bring back conductors! #mykiApr 30 02:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Turns out that the #TTC's single entry design for #streetcars is very preventive of fare evasion compared to #Melbourne trams.Apr 30 02:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #TTC does have a driver assault problem, though (Can you believe it?) #uncanadianApr 30 02:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] We Didn't Start the Fire #bpsongsApr 30 03:04
schestowitzHmm... disabling Javascript in Thunderbird is now a hidden optionApr 30 03:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #kde 4.2.2 brings many good improvements. Users of previous versions of KDE ought to will love it. I love it.Apr 30 03:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30464092#notice-30552084 "I believe you mean #kde 4.4.2 RD: @schestowitz: !kde 4.2.2 brings many good improvements."Apr 30 03:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Oops. I meant #kde 4.4.2. Thanks, @jeffseguerraApr 30 03:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'borderline simpleton, fame-seeking narcissist whose self-interested grab for attention'..Rielle Hunter or Sarah Palin? http://bit.ly/a9HaNkApr 30 03:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Insiders Speak About the Case Against #Android http://ur1.ca/y1v3 #racket #apple #htc #linuxApr 30 03:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hewitt's wrong. Nobody wants the Wild West of '#IE innovation' back. The www *is* standards. http://tcrn.ch/9qBpP6 via @glynmoody #w3cApr 30 03:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Kids packed off to school, time to load up the car for the journey to #oggcampApr 30 03:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jdub Hewitt's rant comes off as whiny that the #w3c doesn't work to his schedule. The West was won; #IE lost. 'Innovation' is BS #facebookApr 30 03:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jdub we already know what having a zillion incompatible browsers is like - & we still have #IE around to remind us. Do Not Want. #w3c #wwwApr 30 03:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mind you, before #oggcamp there's a #geeknic today and then Rathole Radio gig tonight! Packed weekend!Apr 30 03:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] The house smells lovely, I have baked a fresh loaf of bread for the #geeknic :)Apr 30 03:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Six reasons to refuse the United Patent Litigation System (UPLS): http://ur1.ca/y213Apr 30 04:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @Ebuyerdotcom: New EbuyerHQ blog post: Ebuyer is supporting Oggcamp 10 http://blog.ebuyer.com/2010/04/ebuyer-is-supporting-oggcamp-10/Apr 30 04:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] HYPERLOCAL NEWS will SAVE JOURNALISM for the COMMON PEOPLE. http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/8116189.Dog_injures_nose/Apr 30 04:32
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Ender2070kubuntu is looking good so farApr 30 04:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] W.H.Thorpe, an evolutionist scientist acknowledges that "the most elementary type of cell constitutes a (cont) http://tl.gd/137chvApr 30 04:51
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schestowitzWorks ok hereApr 30 04:56
schestowitzminor glitch onceApr 30 04:56
schestowitzMinceR: the updater worked ok even though it reported "fatal error" at the endApr 30 04:56
schestowitzI'm trying to install gnash ATMApr 30 04:57
MinceRso they still can't get their updaters rightApr 30 04:57
schestowitzFirefox doesn't quite 'detect' it yetApr 30 04:57
MinceRperhaps you have also another Trash plugin -- then you can switch via galternatives, for exampleApr 30 04:58
MinceR(and then you need to restart firefox)Apr 30 04:58
MinceRi could run two firefox instances side by side, one running swfdec and the other running Trash, by changing the setting between starting the twoApr 30 04:58
schestowitzAh, let me try this..Apr 30 04:59
Ender2070kubutu is functioning well on my notebookApr 30 05:00
schestowitzFirefox says "flash crashed"Apr 30 05:02
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schestowitzEnder2070: no Fedora?Apr 30 05:03
Ender2070i have it on my desktopApr 30 05:08
Ender207010.04 caught up with fedora 11 i think in terms of versionsApr 30 05:09
Ender2070f12 has kernel 2.6.33 already, kubuntu 10.04 has 2.6.32Apr 30 05:10
Ender2070i might try arch again soonApr 30 05:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @moodindi 'over 80% of land was part of 40yr old Babile Elephant Sanctuary' #biofuel venture fizzles in #Ethiopia http://bit.ly/dgRi1VApr 30 05:17
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Ender2070i think even rhel6 has a newer kernelApr 30 05:18
schestowitzI hate TrashApr 30 05:27
schestowitzWaste of timeApr 30 05:27
Ender2070trash?Apr 30 05:29
Ender2070ahhApr 30 05:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I hate Adobe Trash Player. It's causing issues.Apr 30 05:34
Ender2070is that 32-bit trash or 64-bit trashApr 30 05:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Nice name! :-)Apr 30 05:35
schestowitz32 bitApr 30 05:36
Ender2070got all the annoying wrappers?Apr 30 05:36
schestowitzI never had so much problem with it...Apr 30 05:36
schestowitz"update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (iceape-flashplugin) in auto mode."Apr 30 05:37
schestowitz[...]Apr 30 05:37
Ender2070i use 64-bit trash with chromiumApr 30 05:37
schestowitzIt works in Konqueror nowApr 30 05:39
schestowitzBut weirdlyApr 30 05:39
Ender2070weirdApr 30 05:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Argh. Woke up 15 minutes ago, and it hurts so damned much that I'm up, and staying up.Apr 30 05:42
schestowitzInstalling flash is more trouble than installing LinuxApr 30 05:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] After 2 hours of fighting #Adobe Trash: sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so works..Apr 30 05:52
Ender2070cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ (64-bit)Apr 30 05:52
Ender2070dont use 32-bitApr 30 05:53
schestowitzI've just installed chromium tooApr 30 05:53
schestowitzI'll check it out later......Apr 30 05:53
Ender2070seriouslyApr 30 05:53
schestowitzOK, back to writing postsApr 30 05:53
Ender2070the 64-bit version "just works"Apr 30 05:53
Ender2070no stupid wrappers and compatibility layers requiredApr 30 05:53
Ender2070dont let the 'alpha' tag scare you offApr 30 05:55
Ender2070adobe is just honest with linux users, windows users get worse as 'final' ;)Apr 30 05:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Me Too ;-) Haven't used Gnome since I installed #KDE 4.4.2 on #Ubuntu 10.04.Apr 30 05:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Off to #oggcamp! Vrooom!Apr 30 05:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @LivemintUID: Centre for Internet + Society's @sunil_abraham expresses #Aadhaar #security concerns at video.livemint.com.Apr 30 05:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @privacyint: More privacy discussion in UK election: DNA database, stop+search. http://is.gd/bOh5X Biometric passports mentioned in leadApr 30 06:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Do you use Kubuntu or PCLinuxOS now?Apr 30 06:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting sweets for the journey.some random woman got in the car! "oh sorry, wrong car!" #oggcampApr 30 06:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] In Kubuntu just type in a terminal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras for instal. and auto-config non free codecs and stuffApr 30 06:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ‘Embraces’ #Joomla to Spread Proprietary Software ( #Windows and IIS) http://ur1.ca/y2jk #fossApr 30 06:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GMWatch #Obama nominee for key admin post (EPA). Bg #Monsanto, Shell, General Dynamics (arms) http://bit.ly/bKV3On // so much for CHANGEApr 30 06:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst graphical effects are vastly improved. The KDE team did a spectacular job.Apr 30 06:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My current KDE 4.4.2 desktop http://twitpic.com/1jlv0bApr 30 06:23
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Ender2070lolApr 30 06:24
Ender2070funny how the world revolves around ubuntuApr 30 06:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Agreed. I am afraid this will be the end of the Gnome desktop @ml2mst. KDE 4.4.2 is georgious.Apr 30 06:25
Ender2070i've been using KDE 4.4.2 foreverApr 30 06:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Compiz-Fusion is not any longer required. KWin now does it all by itself. Fantastic!Apr 30 06:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My modifications of Nuno Pinheiro's Ethais wallpaper on Kubuntu 10.04 (1920x1080) Widescreen http://twitpic.com/1jlwvtApr 30 06:32
TechrightsBotTitle:  My modifications of Nuno Pinheiro's Ethais wallpaper on Kubun... on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 7.38 KBApr 30 06:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst yeah, but kwin did well also a year ago. I used Compiz in Mandriva 2008.1 with #KDEApr 30 06:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst My current KDE 4.4.2 desktop http://twitpic.com/1jlv0bApr 30 06:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @AntoniaZ DiManno kicks @PMHarper's ass on abortion. http://bit.ly/daup3R // she's usually wrong, but even a stopped clock... #cdnpoliApr 30 06:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A clause which make it clear that substantive patent law [..] should not be the subject of preliminary rulings by the ECJ http://ur1.ca/y2lvApr 30 06:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Indeed, I obviosly was too impatient to check all of Kwin's settings previously. Used compiz up until recently.Apr 30 06:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Amarok also had a nice make over IIRC.Apr 30 06:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Think i have removed all the libmono and mono apps from #ubuntu lucid, now... back in with #gimp. doesn't mono fall under bug #1 ?Apr 30 06:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Messages are coming to you today in symbolic form and you may ... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 30 07:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Adobe Trash Player and #Novell / #Microsoft #Mono http://ur1.ca/y2q8 I really hope that HTML4 makes #Adobe historyApr 30 07:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Heb dit artikel op Techworld.nl gisteren helemaal gemist (van Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols): http://tinyurl.com/33m4z2cApr 30 07:06
TechrightsBotTitle: Nieuwe tools in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - Techworld .::. Size~: 42.92 KBApr 30 07:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/30463808#notice-30555072 "@schestowitz 4.2.2? Yes, the step up from 4.1.x was huge, but it gets even better with 4.3.x and 4.4.x... :)"Apr 30 07:12
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schestowitz"@eothred I used 4.1, 4.3 and now 4.4, which is very, very polished. GNU/Linux ought to have !kde carry the flag for demos"Apr 30 07:13
schestowitzHeh.Apr 30 07:14
schestowitzThey attribute translation to English writers who don't do themApr 30 07:14
schestowitz"@sjvn you speak Dutch? ;-) http://techworld.nl/technologie/22517/nieuwe-tools-in-ubuntu-10-04-lts.html "Apr 30 07:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz LMAO :-)Apr 30 07:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Here is the original article: http://tinyurl.com/385d4ehApr 30 07:23
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schestowitz“I would love to hear exactly how the GPL strips the consumer of “all their rights”. Even entertaining the BSD vs. GPL sort of arguments, I’ve never heard such hyperbole.Apr 30 07:24
schestowitz“I suppose the GPL might not be as consumer freedom-granting as the typical Microsoft EULA, but…”Apr 30 07:24
schestowitzhttp://www.the-source.com/2010/04/microsoft-evangelist-gpl-strips-consumer-of-all-their-rights/Apr 30 07:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz I don't agree with him, praises F-Spot tojan :-(Apr 30 07:25
schestowitzhttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/1004featuresApr 30 07:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to remove #Mono from #Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx http://ur1.ca/y32g thanks, @ml2mstApr 30 07:34
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Omar87schestowitz, typo detected: [Here is is:] ---> [Here it* is:]Apr 30 07:42
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/30/ubuntu_10_04_review/Apr 30 07:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu's Lucid Lynx: A (free) Mactastic experience • The Register .::. Size~: 32.75 KBApr 30 07:51
schestowitzUbuntu gets loads of good reviewsApr 30 07:51
schestowitzThis is good for GNU/Linux as a wholeApr 30 07:51
schestowitzI remember the heckling yesterday, unnecessary infightingApr 30 07:51
schestowitzOmar87: thanApr 30 07:52
schestowitzOmar87: thanksApr 30 07:52
Omar87anytime.Apr 30 07:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] It seems I have probably just managed to convince an atheist to embrace #Islam on Twitter. En sha'a AllahApr 30 08:05
schestowitzOmar87: help spread Ubuntu today. I consider companies like Xandros and Novell (which pay Microsoft about $50 for each copy of GNU/Linux) to be a problem, not Ubuntu.Apr 30 08:05
schestowitzWindows 'sheep' usually get drawn into Ubuntu, then they find other distrosApr 30 08:06
schestowitzWe can make 100 million desktop GNU/Linux within yearsApr 30 08:06
schestowitz*usersApr 30 08:06
Omar87schestowitz, yeah. I will.Apr 30 08:09
Omar87schestowitz, so do you suggest that I shouldn't leave Ubuntu?Apr 30 08:09
EruaranI haven't really looked at Ubuntu 10.04 yetApr 30 08:10
EruaranBut I will this weekendApr 30 08:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Haha...#eurodns doesn't allow their name servers to be delegated w/others. I guess they don't know that #dns is supposed to be *distributed*Apr 30 08:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] With #eurodns all your eggs are in one basket. Their name servers are currently down; hence clients are 100% down thx to dumb policyApr 30 08:10
EruaranIf I'm happy with it I'll push it really hardApr 30 08:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego Malkin is author of "In Defense of Internment : The Case for Racial Profiling" // i'll just go read that now... *vomit*Apr 30 08:11
EruaranI love Kubuntu but KPackageKit puts me off offering it to mum and dadApr 30 08:11
EruaranIts just not friendly/easy enough Apr 30 08:12
Omar87Eruaran, but remember the lethal weapon: "sudo agt-get purge mono-runtime" ;)Apr 30 08:12
EruaranyesApr 30 08:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @LOA_Lover: Do all the good you can in all the ways u can~in all the places u can~at all the times u can~.. http://is.gd/bOqt6Apr 30 08:15
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schestowitz"Still, Asay concedes that Canonical faces challenges. Roughly 300 of the company’s 330 employees are engineers — meaning that Canonical still needs to ramp up its marketing and sales efforts more aggressively. But “because the company didn’t focus on money so long, the opportunities to make money are just sitting there.”"Apr 30 08:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Beckbasher RT @Ceeb2:TO Beck Bashers.You have Not Proved that Obama is not Racist against the White Culture //LOL! LOL! LOL! *groan*Apr 30 08:23
schestowitzNot enough Ubuntu postings? http://linusearch.com/wordpress/?p=839Apr 30 08:24
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schestowitz#kubuntu-bugs is almost emptyApr 30 08:24
schestowitzNo reply yetApr 30 08:24
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