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cubezzz | what did AMD call their version of pentium? | May 29 00:00 |
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cubezzz | Am586? | May 29 00:00 |
DaemonFC | yes | May 29 00:00 |
schestowitz | re Fry " He was always a Mac fan. He bought the second Mac in the UK after all..." http://identi.ca/conversation/33790233#notice-33949400 @fabsh wow. I didn't know it goes so far back | May 29 00:00 |
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schestowitz | Fry for GNU | May 29 00:01 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | May 29 00:01 |
schestowitz | Bad endorsement, good thing they demoted it a bit | May 29 00:01 |
cubezzz | I never liked Mac | May 29 00:02 |
cubezzz | not programmer friendly | May 29 00:02 |
schestowitz | Mach | May 29 00:02 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Programmers Target SaaS, #Django 1.2 Released http://ur1.ca/0454n http://ur1.ca/0454o | May 29 00:02 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open #Hardware : Signs of Early Success http://ur1.ca/0454s http://ur1.ca/0454t #willowgarage | May 29 00:02 | |
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Techrights | Title: Open source 3D printers abound at Maker Faire - Video - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 138.98 KB | May 29 00:02 |
Techrights | Title: Five Reasons Willow Garage is Going to Succeed | Singularity Hub .::. Size~: 34.04 KB | May 29 00:02 |
cubezzz | AMD seems to be doing great financially | May 29 00:02 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: I never developer for it | May 29 00:02 |
cubezzz | me neither | May 29 00:02 |
schestowitz | Just Windows and Linux TBH | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: really? | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | Where? | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | In the Middle East? | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | ALl the chipmakers sell more now | May 29 00:03 |
cubezzz | umm, just the numbers on wikipedia | May 29 00:03 |
cubezzz | all in the green | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | Today I found out that my profession is the fastest growing | May 29 00:03 |
schestowitz | But I'm not practicing it much | May 29 00:03 |
cubezzz | I'm pretty close to AMD Markham actually | May 29 00:04 |
schestowitz | I think I can carry on wit techrights for a while longer, it's more personally fufilling and important to others | May 29 00:04 |
schestowitz | Markham? | May 29 00:04 |
schestowitz | Whoz dat? | May 29 00:04 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, did you know AMD goes back to the 8080 chip? | May 29 00:04 |
cubezzz | Markham, the city :) | May 29 00:04 |
schestowitz | Never heard of it | May 29 00:05 |
cubezzz | east side of Metro Toronto | May 29 00:05 |
schestowitz | Near trmanco | May 29 00:05 |
schestowitz | re Fry: "Yep, he's a die hard Mac guy. Always has been." http://identi.ca/conversation/33791324#notice-33950342 | May 29 00:05 |
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MinceR | Arkham :> | May 29 00:06 |
schestowitz | FSF messed up using him for promotion | May 29 00:06 |
cubezzz | I've lost track of AMD lately | May 29 00:06 |
cubezzz | for my next FOSS box I'm going to have to book up on it | May 29 00:06 |
MinceR | gn | May 29 00:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/tr-ministry-of-justice-and-law-courts-consider-open-source-desktop | May 29 00:07 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: cya in the morn | May 29 00:07 |
cubezzz | I'll start with an E-ATX mid-tower | May 29 00:08 |
cubezzz | and I still need that eprom burner | May 29 00:10 |
DaemonFC | I found pictures of an ex | May 29 00:13 |
DaemonFC | eeeek | May 29 00:13 |
DaemonFC | the things people do to themselves | May 29 00:13 |
DaemonFC | in that list, dying your hair bright blond is probably not on the top | May 29 00:14 |
DaemonFC | but eeeeek nonetheless | May 29 00:14 |
DaemonFC | not that I have anything against blonds, but you can tell the difference between a blond and someone who spend $10 at Walmart | May 29 00:15 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Why are people intent on changing themselves? | May 29 00:17 |
DaemonFC | It goes from benign (dying hair) to outright mutilation (piercings, tattoos, etc.) | May 29 00:18 |
DaemonFC | what is the fixation? | May 29 00:18 |
DaemonFC | sign of a mental illness? | May 29 00:19 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw | May 29 00:21 |
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DaemonFC | there's one you should get a cringe from | May 29 00:21 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 29 00:21 |
DaemonFC | the fact that they let her walk with $10,000 shows you this country us fucked up | May 29 00:22 |
DaemonFC | they should have euthanized her for the good of the rest of society | May 29 00:23 |
DaemonFC | Kelly Bundy DOES exist! | May 29 00:24 |
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schestowitz | Jesse | May 29 00:34 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/33790233#notice-33952987 "erhaps the love affair was thrown over for a financial arrangement? I'm disappointed" | May 29 00:50 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Iron Baby http://ur1.ca/03wfi !miotd | May 29 01:27 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP fails to plug well, junk shot is a failure. Can we just declare them as terrorists and get it over with already? http://ur1.ca/045it | May 29 01:37 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Signing out for the evening. Have a great weekend, folks! | May 29 01:46 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @diablod3 BP fails to plug well, [...] Can we just declare them as terrorists and get it over with already? http://ur1.ca/045it | May 29 02:00 | |
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tessier | I thought they wouldn't know if it succeeded until Sunday? | May 29 02:00 |
tessier | http://i.imgur.com/gUCNk.jpg | May 29 02:28 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “We’re in the Era of Digital Video, and It’s a Mess,” –Steve Jobs, MPEG-LA Proponent/Lobbyist http://ur1.ca/045s7 | May 29 02:43 | |
Techrights | Title: “Were in the Era of Digital Video, and Its a Mess,” Steve Jobs, MPEG-LA Proponent/Lobbyist | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.94 KB | May 29 02:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Corruption Around #Microsoft Shares Settled http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/pequot-settlement/ #Pequot | May 29 02:56 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #MPEG cartel also patents genes http://techrights.org/2010/05/28/patent-violation-upon-birth/ #swpats | May 29 03:11 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fwd: http://imgur.com/tbMVk #myki, 1) $1.3 billion dollars down the drain, 2) it doesn't f'ing work, 3) it runs on... http://ff.im/l6r6x | May 29 05:27 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@icanonlybebree Well yes, there are far worse things than that in #water. That's my point. | May 29 05:31 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #myki, 1) $1.3 billion dollars down the drain, 2) it doesn't f'ing work, 3) it runs on Windows CE - epic #FAIL (via... http://ff.im/l6sRm | May 29 05:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Palin paranoid 'biographer' might peep on 'family swimming hole'. How did this aristocrat get picked to speak for ordinary americans again? | May 29 06:09 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] didn't want to tweet this & offend my lovely hosts, but KICK ASS has perilously little to recommend it as a movie... | May 29 06:11 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@a_picazo Fact Check: Spill is NOT ‘Unprecedented’ - #Oil // the SCALE, corporate chutzpah + incompetence may be though. cc @avivao | May 29 06:33 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GreeGreece @Pinkomomma hypocrites like Tony Blair profess 2 be religious /many mendacious cynics hiding bhd 'Christ' #Harper #Howard #Bush | May 29 06:37 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jgrindal Wow, just got a scathing call from mgmt, req I tone down my twitter info //& that was final transmission from him. fukrs! #oil | May 29 06:42 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://thebigcaption.com/post/561505872/drill-baby-drill-original | May 29 06:47 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://thebigcaption.com/post/561505872/drill-baby-drill-original #typography | May 29 06:48 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@elsacorral I'm still stunned that I managed to put 'Palin' and 'aristocrat' in the same sentence. #Howzat! | May 29 06:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://thebigcaption.com/post/561505872/drill-baby-drill-original #typography h/t @eikonos | May 29 07:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @daweonline #STIX Project Releases huge Scientific #Fonts Set http://bit.ly/b37pSB #typography #stl #sil #ofl #typesetting Great! | May 29 07:47 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @MohannadKhairy comprehensively: Canadian govt's disgraceful position in Middle East: http://ow.ly/1RtHf #HarperMustGo #cdnpoli #canada | May 29 07:53 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel's long-term problem: There *is* no rational or moral basis for supporting it. Time is running out on such absurd positions. | May 29 07:55 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kirillcool Nicolas Cage strikes again. It's not how low he can go. just a different type of low. #kickass // Rating: SRSLY DON'T BOTHER | May 29 07:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@elsacorral Phillip Adams was, of course, an ad-man by trade :) | May 29 08:06 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@scottEweinberg pisses me off @david_cornelius doesn't have more followers; Grade-A #movies geek & fine writer //ok,ok,followed already #ff | May 29 08:08 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @MohannadKhairy Canadian govt's disgraceful position in Middle East http://ow.ly/1RtHf #harper #cdnpoli /omits barring of George Galloway | May 29 08:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@david_cornelius (I'm a bit concerned, though, that @scottEweinberg has that much power.) // start worrying when he asks us to UNfollow | May 29 08:23 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@a_picazo Report: Most #Gitmo detainees low-level fighters http://bit.ly/bZO5Xo #p2 // I guess that is the new euphemism for 'ordinary joe' | May 29 08:24 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] analyst response 2 #Europe's austerity measures shows that any hint of sustainable behaviour is sharply discouraged. Explains a lot. #spain | May 29 08:43 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Foxconn: Here's what u do. Raise worker pay. Improve worker conditions. Stop underpricng yr shit way below *real* costs. #apple #chinasucks | May 29 08:45 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Foxconn if you can't manufacture sustainably, cleanly & safely then just die, preferably asap. Rest of #chinasucks. #apple, #pc underpriced | May 29 08:48 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@derrickveejay #Boycott #Foxconn. #Apple. #Dell. #Sony. #Nintendo. //not enuf; ban ALL unsustainable chinese+sweatshop products #chinasucks | May 29 08:51 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got three days off. What to do? Articles for Openbytes, a pub lunch and Doctor Who on #bbc later....great stuff. | May 29 08:54 | |
tessier | The whole Foxconn thing may be misunderstood | May 29 08:56 |
tessier | http://www.cringely.com/2010/05/death-by-foxconn/ | May 29 08:57 |
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schestowitz | Yes, I read that | May 29 08:57 |
schestowitz | I also linked to it | May 29 08:57 |
schestowitz | But it doesn't make the sweatshops any more ethical | May 29 08:57 |
tessier | The problem is the whole govt there. | May 29 08:58 |
schestowitz | I think they want to draw attention to poor working conditions imposed by the West. Suicides are a good opportunity to latch onto | May 29 08:58 |
schestowitz | tessier: yes, that too | May 29 08:58 |
tessier | Institute a minimum wage and some basic workers right across the board. | May 29 08:58 |
tessier | Without that capitalism will play out like this. | May 29 08:58 |
tessier | When you are that poor you are happy for your sweatshop job. | May 29 08:59 |
schestowitz | It does not exactly justify it | May 29 08:59 |
schestowitz | We had this discussion before and I was reminded of an explanation I once listened to | May 29 08:59 |
schestowitz | The solution is to remove the conditions under which this becomes necessary | May 29 08:59 |
schestowitz | Same with pr0n to some | May 29 09:00 |
schestowitz | Some people turn to pr0n industry because they must make quick cash | May 29 09:00 |
schestowitz | Nevertheless, it doesn't justify the apparent 'subjugation' it is to some people | May 29 09:00 |
schestowitz | Selling their dignity | May 29 09:00 |
schestowitz | So the solution is to remove conditions which lead people to participation in pr0n unless they really want that. Same with prostitution | May 29 09:01 |
tessier | yeah | May 29 09:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Funny thing about unsustainable practices. They END, by definition. Extra points for stopping early. #oil #greed #china #sustainability | May 29 09:06 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell ’s Software Patents and #Microsoft Copycats Turn Into Greater Threats to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/047b8 #mono #swpats | May 29 09:19 | |
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schestowitz | "PJ: Because what's more important than making sure your right hand knows what your left hand is doing? Perhaps Microsoft could adopt a new slogan: Don't Look Evil." | May 29 09:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=128905&nid=114735 | May 29 09:50 |
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schestowitz | "Bruce Perens, author of The Cathedral & Bazaar," http://saviorodrigues.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/implications-of-googles-webm-license-on-open-source-selection/ | May 29 10:19 |
schestowitz | hehe | May 29 10:19 |
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schestowitz | "Good riddance to OSI if you ask me. It was/IS nothing but an effort to fleece/Con the Free Software movement into supporting Microsoft Crap." | May 29 10:19 |
Diablo-D3 | [05:16:24] <schestowitz> "Bruce Perens, author of The Cathedral & Bazaar," http://saviorodrigues.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/implications-of-googles-webm-license-on-open-source-selection/ | May 29 10:20 |
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Diablo-D3 | what | May 29 10:20 |
schestowitz | He crossed that out later | May 29 10:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rude comment: "Good riddance to OSI if you ask me. [..]Con the Free Software movement into supporting Microsoft Crap." http://ur1.ca/047ka | May 29 10:21 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Please submit OpenBooks at Wikipress.in http://post.ly/hmwP | May 29 10:23 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.fsdaily.com/Industry/HP_To_Ditch_Windows_7_For_Homegrown_OS_InformationWeek#comment-6005 | May 29 10:42 |
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schestowitz | "Vista 7 slate has been indeed dropped." | May 29 10:42 |
schestowitz | :-D | May 29 10:42 |
schestowitz | We created a "Vista 7" meme | May 29 10:42 |
schestowitz | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/05/28/2131225/US-Navy-Considering-emWii-Fitem-and-emDDRem-For-Boot-Camp | May 29 10:50 |
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schestowitz | Monday Wii Fit | May 29 10:50 |
schestowitz | Tuesday shooting at suspicious civilians | May 29 10:50 |
schestowitz | Wednesday Wii Fit | May 29 10:50 |
schestowitz | Thursday attending a funeral | May 29 10:50 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Super: It is 40 degree C and it feels like 47 degree C #bad #weather #chennai | May 29 11:02 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Abbey/Sandander is getting on my nerves. Two weekends in a row they have declined online purchases. Last week Amazon.com, this week Steam. | May 29 11:03 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Mixed Washington Post distro review opens with "No Windows viruses" rather than viruses or computer viruses good for them http://is.gd/cubWM | May 29 11:07 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera he is quite security focused at WashPost | May 29 11:09 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Abbey say the transactions for steam _were_ authorised, steam says they weren't. Fail. | May 29 11:10 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Steam tells me my address is formatted incorrectly, and card declined, bank say it wasn't declined at all. Steam fail? | May 29 11:11 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Lost '80s pop classic: Puppets "Way Of Life" http://is.gd/cucH2 http://is.gd/cucJP http://is.gd/cucKP | May 29 11:23 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Messing with SDL....great fun...... Why is a demoscene party mostly Amiga/Linux users, yet still insist on DX....? More exposure I suppose. | May 29 11:28 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Having said that Birdie 2010 has had numerous Linux releases...A good sign that the scene is finally taking hold on Linux? #demoscene | May 29 11:35 | |
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Arvis | ow | May 29 11:46 |
schestowitz | Hi | May 29 11:46 |
schestowitz | What are those programs about? | May 29 11:46 |
schestowitz | And why just IP address and no domain name? | May 29 11:46 |
Arvis | err | May 29 11:46 |
Arvis | thats how firefox copied it for me | May 29 11:46 |
Arvis | they are about most popular program | May 29 11:47 |
schestowitz | Ah, OK | May 29 11:47 |
Arvis | s | May 29 11:47 |
Arvis | these get developed for everyone | May 29 11:47 |
schestowitz | Apple stores are full of cheaters | May 29 11:47 |
Arvis | so is that site | May 29 11:47 |
schestowitz | But that doesn't make it acceptable to mass-vte | May 29 11:47 |
schestowitz | Arvis: KDE-files and GNOME-files too to an extent | May 29 11:47 |
schestowitz | When I was in MATLAB Central some people cheated, I didn't | May 29 11:48 |
Arvis | Its automated system. There's people who do it so and win so with stupid ideas | May 29 11:48 |
schestowitz | It's a waste of time and devalues the achievement | May 29 11:48 |
Arvis | I mean who would make PS3 emulator for phone? | May 29 11:48 |
schestowitz | That's Symbian, no? | May 29 11:48 |
Arvis | yes | May 29 11:48 |
Arvis | It will never happen | May 29 11:48 |
schestowitz | http://217.149.58.248/campaign/fun-and-games-apps?user=Arvis | May 29 11:48 |
schestowitz | Nokia is moving more to MeeGo now (Linux) | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | We need help there | May 29 11:49 |
Arvis | not exactly | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | To remove Mono | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | Arvis: in due time | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | Symbian will be open more for historical reasons | May 29 11:49 |
Arvis | kindof | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | It's too expensive to keep up | May 29 11:49 |
Arvis | they are going to maemo | May 29 11:49 |
Arvis | but also stay with symbian | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | No | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | Maemo->Meego | May 29 11:49 |
Arvis | kk | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | 1.0 release just announced | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | And we have problems there | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | Novell is trying to put Mono in it | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | Microsoft C# | May 29 11:49 |
schestowitz | With patent problems | May 29 11:50 |
schestowitz | As you may know, Novell is being sold | May 29 11:50 |
schestowitz | Along with its patents that can hurt UNIX and Linux | May 29 11:50 |
schestowitz | So we need to ensure Nokia is not encumbered with Mono apps | May 29 11:50 |
schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/109262/meego-10-offers-devs-stable-platform-few-surprises | May 29 11:50 |
Techrights | Title: MeeGo 1.0 Offers Devs Stable Platform with Few Surprises | ITworld .::. Size~: 83.22 KB | May 29 11:50 |
schestowitz | Screenshots | May 29 11:50 |
Arvis | :o | May 29 11:51 |
schestowitz | Arvis: that server is tango-248.srv.hosting.fi | May 29 11:52 |
schestowitz | Probably Nokia server | May 29 11:52 |
Arvis | it is i know | May 29 11:52 |
Arvis | it was linked from official nokia youtube chan | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | Anyway, we need to make sure the world's biggest phone maker keeps it clean of problems like Mono | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | That's a proposal some want to already raise this wek | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | *Week | May 29 11:53 |
oiaohm | Never is a very long time Arvis | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | Nokia is shuffling staff now... managers filying | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | They have a lot of trouble against Google and others | May 29 11:53 |
schestowitz | They even sued Apple and made a deal with Microsoft last month | May 29 11:54 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: Nokia will say "never" for certainty | May 29 11:54 |
schestowitz | Imagine being a Symbian dev and Nokia tells you it'll expire soon | May 29 11:54 |
schestowitz | Won't work | May 29 11:54 |
schestowitz | ALso, remember what they did to Maemo/N900 devs | May 29 11:55 |
schestowitz | They basically pulled the rug under them with MeeGo | May 29 11:55 |
schestowitz | No warning, no update of firmware for N900 (Maemo->Meego) | May 29 11:55 |
oiaohm | Address is wrong Arvis | May 29 11:55 |
oiaohm | Nokia has their own name servers that all their sites and workers machines link back to. Arvis | May 29 11:56 |
Arvis | what address | May 29 11:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @xlerb Zuckerberg has offended me greatly: http://xrl.be/0u8 (h/t @littlecalculist) | May 29 11:56 | |
Arvis | Its Nokias site | May 29 11:56 |
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Arvis | linked from nokias youube | May 29 11:56 |
oiaohm | 217.149.58.248 is out side the nokia range. | May 29 11:56 |
Arvis | its n8makemyapp.com | May 29 11:56 |
Arvis | just some links lead to hat ip on that site | May 29 11:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard RT @xlerb Zuckerberg has offended me greatly: http://xrl.be/0u8 (h/t @littlecalculist) | May 29 11:57 | |
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oiaohm | 212.53.89.138 is n8makemyapps.com. That links to ns0.netbenefit.co.uk name server provider and is not nokia main. Instead is a sub company contracted todo support. | May 29 11:59 |
oiaohm | Something is off with your link basically. | May 29 12:00 |
oiaohm | The address gave is not linked to the right name server for site you say it releated to Arvis | May 29 12:01 |
schestowitz | Maybe the YouTUbe clip was a spoof | May 29 12:01 |
Arvis | Nokia shouldn't give shit to people | May 29 12:01 |
schestowitz | But unless the site has malware in it, I fail to see anything potentially rogue | May 29 12:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh crap. My 3 year old son is singing Justin Bieber songs. | May 29 12:02 | |
oiaohm | Basically information not adding up. | May 29 12:02 |
oiaohm | Youtube has a lot of pr spoofers on it. | May 29 12:03 |
Arvis | I mean | May 29 12:03 |
Arvis | that nokia channel | May 29 12:03 |
oiaohm | Not everything you find their is true. | May 29 12:03 |
Arvis | with unreleased stuff | May 29 12:03 |
Arvis | only nokia can have | May 29 12:03 |
oiaohm | Really you blieve that. | May 29 12:03 |
oiaohm | Never been to china and seen the fakes. | May 29 12:04 |
Arvis | I do | May 29 12:04 |
Arvis | There's no reason why not | May 29 12:04 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] 'Had it crashed? Or was it being sarcastic?' Charlie Brooker on the iPad | Technology | The Guardian http://tinyurl.com/397a3z6 | May 29 12:14 | |
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oiaohm | Found it as I said something was off schestowitz. Its UK nokia. Not finland Nokia. They have hosted on a finland host to look more above board. | May 29 12:16 |
oiaohm | With the competition. | May 29 12:16 |
oiaohm | Internal company stupidity strikes again. | May 29 12:17 |
schestowitz | :-) | May 29 12:54 |
schestowitz | See what I just posted in #boycottnovell-social | May 29 12:54 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/richnusgeeks/statuses/14966558461 "@nsisodiya @schestowitz Stallman already mentioned this threat a long time ago. #gnu #foss #mono" | May 29 12:55 |
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schestowitz | basically, Groklaw is also starting to speak out against Mono | May 29 12:55 |
MinceR | j0 | May 29 13:04 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Replaces F-Spot ( #Mono ) With Shotwell (Vala), #MeeGo Still Mono Encumbered http://ur1.ca/0487u #nokia #swpats | May 29 13:20 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Playing portal. How far behind the rest of the planet am I? :) | May 29 13:27 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @gopalraju Bring Down #IE6 http://www.bringdownie6.com/ -- #design #www good cause even if you *don't* despise #microsoft | May 29 13:49 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@MagnaCumLaude @Kellbo0 I have to scream God Damnit to get my dog to do anything // why do you think they call it 'dog whistle' #politics. | May 29 13:54 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google to Make WebM #GPL Compatible — Claim http://ur1.ca/048d0 #gnu #fsf #swpats #webm #vp8 #mpeg #cartel | May 29 13:55 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] MT @mparent77772 In Philadelphia, #Microsoft 'School of Future' Is A Disaster 4 The Kids. Question Rush To Privatize! http://bit.ly/95hbtS | May 29 13:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 End blockade of #Gaza, #EU tells #Israel http://bit.ly/dqkzIL #war #genocide | May 29 13:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@mparent77772 The #BP Disaster Is Like #Katrina In One Important Way http://bit.ly/bL890i // oh! oh! don't tell me! I know this one! | May 29 14:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@etsyjulianne What was it #Bush did that kept media on a feeding frenzy for 6 yrs? //can only assume u mean, 'gave a free pass for 2 terms' | May 29 14:07 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 #Israel must sign #NPT, 189 countries say http://bit.ly/bDgpmv #wmd | May 29 14:12 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreatIndianSale Indian State #Kerala starts 10yr move 2 All-#Organic #Farming http://bit.ly/bg79xc RT @GMWatch /leading the way as usual | May 29 14:30 | |
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schestowitz | tessier: something is up with apache, I think | May 29 14:35 |
schestowitz | Are you there? | May 29 14:35 |
schestowitz | It returns error on all pages | May 29 14:37 |
schestowitz | Also the Wiki | May 29 14:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] wait, wait, #Foxconn offering COUNSELLING to stem spate of factory worker suicides?! <me blinks> http://bit.ly/cbljmi | May 29 14:38 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] 3rd day sick in bed. Meh. Listening to obscure lost '80s classics. Now: Martin Hall/Under For. http://is.gd/cunGK http://is.gd/cunI6 | May 29 15:05 | |
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Techrights | Title: Cassette tapes / Old New wave and Industrial music lp's and c.d's: Under For - Apparently all the Same - 1984 = Martin Hall .::. Size~: 34.6 KB | May 29 15:05 |
schestowitz | ping tessier .... | May 29 15:06 |
tessier | pong | May 29 15:13 |
tessier | looking | May 29 15:13 |
schestowitz | thanks :_D | May 29 15:13 |
schestowitz | Sorry for phoning at such a late/early hour | May 29 15:14 |
schestowitz | oiaohm and I have tried resolving this in the other IRC channel, but it seems like a proxy issue | May 29 15:14 |
tessier | Restarted httpd and it came back | May 29 15:14 |
schestowitz | CoPilotCo works perfectly | May 29 15:14 |
schestowitz | Thanks, tessier! | May 29 15:15 |
tessier | Copilotco goes through the proxy also. Maybe I should cron them both to restart automatically each night or something. | May 29 15:15 |
schestowitz | was apachectl restart the wrong command to use? Never mind, you probably want to get back to sleep :-) | May 29 15:15 |
schestowitz | tessier: thanks so much, I'm relieved as I though this could last many hours | May 29 15:16 |
schestowitz | *thought | May 29 15:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Not #identica? ♺@glynmoody Eric Raymond joins #Twitter http://bit.ly/9qvXzC "Yes, I *am* that ESR." well, of course... #esr | May 29 15:18 | |
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ender2070 | goblin told me I have no right to tweet | May 29 15:21 |
ender2070 | what a tool | May 29 15:21 |
schestowitz | It's weird. Why was he hostile? | May 29 15:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Pequot Capital made money through a former Microsoft employee it hired (David Zilkha) and helped fund SCO litigation http://ur1.ca/048pr | May 29 15:22 | |
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ender2070 | hes nuts | May 29 15:22 |
schestowitz | Maybe he doesn't connect "pwnage" with who you are, thinking you are hostile | May 29 15:22 |
schestowitz | ender2070: no | May 29 15:22 |
schestowitz | He misidentified | May 29 15:22 |
schestowitz | He probably thought you were on the side of the dildo merchant | May 29 15:23 |
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ender2070 | he could have asked many things politely | May 29 15:25 |
ender2070 | without flying off the handle | May 29 15:25 |
ender2070 | or jumping to conclusions | May 29 15:26 |
ender2070 | I posted a vid of david, how is that on his side? LOL | May 29 15:26 |
ender2070 | it owned him | May 29 15:26 |
ender2070 | he made a '640K is all you need' type of statement | May 29 15:26 |
ender2070 | regarding cell phone carriers | May 29 15:26 |
schestowitz |  | May 29 15:30 |
schestowitz | [15:25] <ender2070> he could have asked many things politely | May 29 15:30 |
schestowitz | I think he was deceived by the trolls | May 29 15:30 |
ender2070 | he mentioned being contacted by linsux people | May 29 15:31 |
schestowitz | ender2070: "hypephone is all I need"? | May 29 15:31 |
schestowitz | I reckon he still uses Apple products while sitting there in GNOME and ACCESS | May 29 15:31 |
ender2070 | yeah | May 29 15:31 |
ender2070 | he owns an ipad too | May 29 15:31 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | May 29 15:31 |
ender2070 | http://caffeine.shugendo.org | May 29 15:31 |
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schestowitz | No wonder he hates the FSF | May 29 15:31 |
ender2070 | he wrote a new article today | May 29 15:31 |
ender2070 | hes mad that the FSF is angry over the GPL violations | May 29 15:32 |
schestowitz | Why link to it? These Apple cultists are a waste of time | May 29 15:32 |
schestowitz | They onyl distract | May 29 15:32 |
schestowitz | I ignore them | May 29 15:32 |
schestowitz | When I can | May 29 15:32 |
ender2070 | you're right | May 29 15:32 |
schestowitz | ender2070: yeah, nasty FSF defending those who code for Freedom | May 29 15:32 |
ender2070 | the headline "FSF: Have an iPhone? NO FREE SOFTWARE FOR YOU!" | May 29 15:33 |
ender2070 | lol | May 29 15:33 |
ender2070 | he would prefer: "Have an iPhone? GPL exemption for you" | May 29 15:33 |
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ender2070 | I wouldn't give up my rights to get into crapples software store | May 29 15:34 |
_Goblin | so this is positive is it ender? | May 29 15:35 |
_Goblin | positive news? | May 29 15:35 |
_Goblin | how many more nyms are you going to create? | May 29 15:36 |
_Goblin | I count 4 | May 29 15:36 |
_Goblin | Ender, Atlasdx, Admin and now Brandon? | May 29 15:36 |
_Goblin | thought so.... | May 29 15:37 |
ender2070 | accusations of nymshifting | May 29 15:38 |
ender2070 | #3 | May 29 15:38 |
ender2070 | admin is a wordpress default account | May 29 15:38 |
ender2070 | brandon is my real name | May 29 15:38 |
ender2070 | shut the fuck up troll | May 29 15:38 |
_Goblin | lol | May 29 15:39 |
_Goblin | troll.... | May 29 15:39 |
_Goblin | yeah. | May 29 15:39 |
_Goblin | youve got a hell of a following there on twitter..... | May 29 15:39 |
_Goblin | and your wordpress blog is simply buzzing. | May 29 15:39 |
_Goblin | I expect nymshifting isn't trolling (especially the way you approach people) | May 29 15:40 |
_Goblin | and I expect David didn't feel the need to speak to police about your behaviour. | May 29 15:40 |
_Goblin | you need to grow up young man. | May 29 15:40 |
_Goblin | anyway.... | May 29 15:40 |
_Goblin | right folks, roy and everyone else. As a result of Ender's rep | May 29 15:40 |
schestowitz | [15:21] <ender2070> goblin told me I have no right to tweet | May 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | [15:22] <schestowitz> He misidentified | May 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | [15:23] <schestowitz> He probably thought you were on the side of the dildo merchant | May 29 15:41 |
MinceR | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/at-last-the-open-source-iphone-killer/ | May 29 15:41 |
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_Goblin | I did not misidentify roy I asked for clarification | May 29 15:41 |
_Goblin | read the comments section on his echo chamber of a blog. | May 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: what are you talking about? | May 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | He doesn't nymshift | May 29 15:41 |
_Goblin | no? | May 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | Wrong target | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: no | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | I remember you once misindentifying some pro-Linux guy from India as a Microsoft shill | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | That was embarrassing | May 29 15:42 |
_Goblin | ? | May 29 15:42 |
_Goblin | really | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | Yes | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | Gosh, this is weird | May 29 15:42 |
_Goblin | It wasn't I knew he was a linux user what I was pointing out.... | May 29 15:42 |
schestowitz | You're both on the same side fighting cause of the perps who pretend to be Astrowhatever | May 29 15:43 |
_Goblin | was that he added to FUD by highlighting differences that didnt exist between OS's | May 29 15:43 |
schestowitz | But you need to see all the posts | May 29 15:43 |
_Goblin | infact I used him as an example many times afterwards to show I tackled fud, either Windows or Linux based. | May 29 15:43 |
schestowitz | TuxMachines linked to him a lot | May 29 15:43 |
_Goblin | so? | May 29 15:43 |
schestowitz | He doesn't seem to write anymore | May 29 15:43 |
_Goblin | he can't be challenged for writing misleading text about Linux> | May 29 15:43 |
_Goblin | ? | May 29 15:44 |
schestowitz | So if you read all his posts you'd see that he promotes Linux well | May 29 15:44 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: he can be challenged | May 29 15:44 |
_Goblin | I KNOW HE DOES. That wasn't why I challenged him. | May 29 15:44 |
MinceR | "i like linux, but..." | May 29 15:44 |
schestowitz | But unless you know he was/is paid by Micosoft or always trolls Linux, you can't label him | May 29 15:44 |
_Goblin | I challenged him because he made issue of simple things in relation to Linux when talking about the differences between the OS's | May 29 15:44 |
_Goblin | nothing to do with Microsoft Shill. | May 29 15:44 |
schestowitz | MinceR: ryan "likes Linux butt" | May 29 15:45 |
MinceR | ew | May 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | Tux | May 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | Do birds have asses at all? | May 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | Shaped like dinosaurs' | May 29 15:45 |
_Goblin | Right. Goodbye all. See you all in cyberspace.... | May 29 15:48 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #XBMC finally hangs up on Microsoft’s Xbox, leaving the monopolistic company in more of an embarrassing state http://ur1.ca/048ty | May 29 15:51 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right....Peppermint article nearly finished...... | May 29 15:51 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and I nearly forgot......its time for the top 5 metal for this weekend.....to follow. | May 29 15:51 | |
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schestowitz | bbl | May 29 15:52 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #1 DIE APOKALYPTISCHEN REITER Downfall - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD5ml68B18o #metal #yourockon | May 29 15:53 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #2 Children of Bodom - Oops I did it again (Britney Spears cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d7-2wooB9g #metal #yourockon | May 29 15:55 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Insane clown Posse - Boogie Woogie Wu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6haXnzV2xg #metal #yourockon | May 29 15:56 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #4 Spinal Tap - Stonehenge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7wcyLrPqC4 #metal #yourockon | May 29 15:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #5 Joe Satriani - Always with me, always with you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM #metal #yourockon | May 29 16:01 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] The more I use emacs the more I love it. With autocomplete, ecb and etags, it does all I need and is 100x faster than eclipse! | May 29 16:02 | |
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ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=50#comment-108 | May 29 16:13 |
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ender2070 | i dont really have anything else to say to him | May 29 16:13 |
ender2070 | but he brought up bn chat so I am mentioning it here | May 29 16:13 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Bye Bye Fedora 12; Enter Fedora 13 ;) | May 29 16:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ok, off to play cars with my lad and then finish off my Peppermint article...Doctor Who soon too...result! | May 29 16:53 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Xtranormal.com, one of the greatest inventions in the history of the Worldwide Web. Simply.. AMAZING!! | May 29 17:12 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Hey! Getting the re-tweets on my metal selections! Not as many as last week though...appears Die Apokalyptischen Reiter is popular! | May 29 18:15 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 1/2 an hour to Dr Who....shame the episode is not too hot.....Ive been very unimpressed with the 2 parters on the new series #doctorwho | May 29 18:29 | |
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schestowitz | ender2070: it's so weird that you argue with Tim (goblin) | May 29 18:55 |
schestowitz | Pointless argument | May 29 18:55 |
schestowitz | lay it aside | May 29 18:56 |
schestowitz | "Gary Coleman has died as the result of injuries he suffered earlier this week. We've learned Gary's wife, Shannon, made the decision to pull life support early this AM." | May 29 18:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/28/lindsay-lohan-prohib.html | May 29 19:00 |
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schestowitz | http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/05/28/mandriva-linux-2010-spring-is-coming-soon/ | May 29 19:05 |
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schestowitz | World's nicest distro, IMHO | May 29 19:06 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dennis Hopper dead at 74 http://ur1.ca/049lj #RIP | May 29 19:07 | |
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just_someone | schestowitz: Do you need pictures for articles? I found some good ones one Wikimedia. | May 29 19:07 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] great example of HTML5 in action. gravity effect is impressive http://bit.ly/cs1xMl #html5 | May 29 19:08 | |
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schestowitz | THis one set up the window decors the same way I did: http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/05/28/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-i-mount-management/ | May 29 19:08 |
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schestowitz | just_someone: sure! | May 29 19:08 |
schestowitz | If it's not CC but GPL | May 29 19:08 |
just_someone | You can't use CC? | May 29 19:10 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Facebook = Ford Pinto http://ur1.ca/049m3 | May 29 19:12 | |
Techrights | Title: Facebook and the Ford Pinto | Steve (GRC) Gibson's Blog .::. Size~: 91.56 KB | May 29 19:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Laws is an unfortunate name for someone who seems not to respect them, specially when his job is to make them http://tinyurl.com/2wam3c7 | May 29 19:17 | |
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schestowitz | just_someone: I can | May 29 19:18 |
schestowitz | It just takes longer cause I need to pull URLs and attribute\ | May 29 19:19 |
schestowitz | If it's GPL, then I drag and drop | May 29 19:19 |
just_someone | schestowitz: Some are CC, some GNU FDL and some Public Domain. Should I post the links here? | May 29 19:20 |
schestowitz | Yes, please | May 29 19:32 |
schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/29/1835/ | May 29 19:32 |
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schestowitz | Already have a dir called "Ships" for sinking ships I'll use in the future (public domain) | May 29 19:33 |
schestowitz | I use http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page | May 29 19:34 |
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just_someone | Patent Agressionnhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:4Canine_teeth.jpg (FDL)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Killer_Chihuahua.jpg (CC)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Military_dog_barking.JPG (PD) | May 29 19:35 |
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just_someone | Or these for Vendor Lock-In, DRM | May 29 19:39 |
just_someone | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prison.jpg (PD) | May 29 19:39 |
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just_someone | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Denver_boot.jpg (PD) | May 29 19:40 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: you're feeding the troll | May 29 19:40 |
schestowitz | Your headlines too echo his own | May 29 19:40 |
schestowitz | You could write some good posts on Fedora insteaf | May 29 19:40 |
schestowitz | He gets no attention in life, you give him that in your own blog | May 29 19:41 |
schestowitz | just_someone: ha! | May 29 19:41 |
schestowitz | These pics are great | May 29 19:41 |
schestowitz | I'll add captions | May 29 19:41 |
schestowitz | LOLCATS | May 29 19:41 |
just_someone | Broken Company/Productnhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auto_katollaan.jpg (CC)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BVSstoomloco2-1_(107794092).jpg (CC)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008-12-15_Lanzarote_Wreck.jpg (CC)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wreck-DSC_9497-MR.jpg (PD)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008-08-19_Flat_tire.jpg (FDL) | May 29 19:42 |
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Tallken | hum.. that doesn't sound right? | May 29 19:43 |
schestowitz | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wreck-DSC_9497-MR.jpg is copyrighted | May 29 19:44 |
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schestowitz | I don't want to encourage those licences | May 29 19:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning all! Went to see Wicked last night. Fantastic show an a fun night. Now up and about, checking in with some work bits. | May 29 19:44 | |
schestowitz | Let's reward GNU FDL, which I equate with GPL | May 29 19:44 |
schestowitz | Apple images copyright laden | May 29 19:44 |
schestowitz | Tit gives them censorship-like protection, like I wrote here yesterday | May 29 19:44 |
schestowitz | I never found /any/ free-for-use Steve Jobs iamge for example | May 29 19:45 |
schestowitz | His cult is protecting his image using copyrights | May 29 19:45 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Happy to see Lucas happy with our recent ubuntu.com improvements to mention our partnership with Debian - http://is.gd/cuEfi #ubuntu #debian | May 29 19:46 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Interview with Penelope about her work in the Ubuntu Accessibility Team - http://is.gd/cuEic #ubuntu | May 29 19:46 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Pēteris Krišjānis talks about the revolution going on in the Evolution camp - http://is.gd/cuEpB - evo rocks, this is good. :-) #gnome | May 29 19:49 | |
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just_someone | There are some Steve Jobs pics under CC on Wikimedia | May 29 19:50 |
just_someone | Here are my last suggestions | May 29 19:51 |
just_someone | Vendor Lock-In, DRMnhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2009-02-26_Wheel_clamp_on_Hummer.jpg (FDL)nhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Patarei_prison_in_Tallinn_7.jpg (CC)nProprietary software in schoolsnhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fear_of_a_blank_planet.jpg (CC) | May 29 19:51 |
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schestowitz | just_someone: join #boycottnovell-social | May 29 19:53 |
schestowitz | I think it's just a tad off topic for the main channel | May 29 19:53 |
schestowitz | I'm downloading these, but I wonder if it's of interest to the rest in this channel, that's all | May 29 19:54 |
just_someone | schestowitz: No problem | May 29 19:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Wow - 50 All-Time Favorite New Uses for Old Things http://bit.ly/bk8kUU | May 29 19:57 | |
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schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100526/1829549595.shtml | May 29 19:59 |
Techrights | Title: Australian Gyms Swapping Out Pop Songs With Cover Versions To Avoid Ridiculous Royalties | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.8 KB | May 29 19:59 |
schestowitz | just_someone: thanks a lot | May 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | I'll use them in the coming week | May 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | It would be invaluable to have a tarball of free images that are of relevance to freedom/slavery | May 29 20:00 |
schestowitz | That would save a lot of time | May 29 20:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Time Cube: The Movie. (trailer) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHaGnpO0pE4 | May 29 20:03 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/business/news/e3ib1d3a90dc9ba701673728f3da14d5f9a | May 29 20:07 |
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schestowitz | Now they need to arrest Bach and his gang at Microsoft for inside trading | May 29 20:08 |
schestowitz | http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-news/tourism-australia-campaign-ripping-off-artists-20100525-w8y2.html | May 29 20:10 |
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schestowitz | Ha! Just as we were talking about CC images | May 29 20:10 |
schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/113859 "i understand the sentiment. it's very strange that osi is so skeptical of webm (while less of mpeg-la?) i think they're choosing the side that's against the most people, in the name of being "reasonable" - AGAIN. (couldn't say for sure though)" | May 29 20:14 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Much of this information is gathered from [US] server logs, so it is a fairly independent and accurate measure." *LOL* http://ur1.ca/049ve | May 29 20:19 | |
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schestowitz | Dana talks junk again.. | May 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | "Fanboys matter. Reputation matters. " | May 29 20:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-lessons-of-apple-turning-microsoft-into-ibm/6573 | May 29 20:22 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ofcom and it’s Code of Practice - http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/ofcom-and-its-anti-piracy-tactics/ #bittorent #tpb #piracy | May 29 20:27 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin its, not it's | May 29 20:28 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apparently, Gorilla Glass works pretty damned well http://ur1.ca/049wu | May 29 20:32 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the Severed Fifth studio laying down more drum tracks. #severedfifth | May 29 20:32 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/tag/dell-e6500 | May 29 20:49 |
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schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64R1DI20100528 | May 29 20:52 |
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schestowitz | False | May 29 20:52 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Not if its meant as a contradiction, which is the implied context it is in. "Code of practice" for dodgy idea's. | May 29 20:53 | |
cubezzz | Gartner :) | May 29 20:53 |
cubezzz | like I listen to them | May 29 20:53 |
cubezzz | even all the comments right under disagree | May 29 20:55 |
cubezzz | wouldn't be surprised to hear Gartner is funded by Microsoft | May 29 20:55 |
cubezzz | they'll find a way to spin things | May 29 20:56 |
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schestowitz | Wow. So many Linux tablets. http://uk.i4u.com/article33703.html | May 29 21:04 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There are dozens of tablets out there. One runs Apple's OS, all the rest run Linux. None of interest runs Windows. | May 29 21:05 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Maybe it wasn't too clear..."it's" in the context of "it has" (contraction)..So "Ofcom and it has codes of practice?" | May 29 21:08 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz maybe you are right though...it could be a bad title....too late now to change anyway. | May 29 21:08 | |
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schestowitz | cubezzz: loads of good Linux news today | May 29 21:10 |
schestowitz | But Google becomes a Linux leader with Android | May 29 21:10 |
cubezzz | 2010 has been a Linux year for sure | May 29 21:11 |
MinceR | it's not over yet :> | May 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | You could call it "Android" or "Ubuntu" | May 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, another cult is rising | May 29 21:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin readers would interpret it (wrongly) as ignorance in the headline, so typo-ridden headlines do matter. I read mine many times. | May 29 21:12 | |
schestowitz | Novell vanishes | May 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | Techrights lives on | May 29 21:12 |
cubezzz | I may even start selling FOSS boxes | May 29 21:12 |
schestowitz | We changed domain at a good time | May 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: or support those who use them | May 29 21:13 |
cubezzz | techrights is a much better name, yes :) | May 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | We also grab the word "right" and assoiciate it with freedom | May 29 21:13 |
cubezzz | not a recursive acronym, but hey :) | May 29 21:13 |
schestowitz | RMS was upset with the name cause he thinks of "Rights" as a words the moguls use (IP right, DRightM...) | May 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | *word | May 29 21:14 |
cubezzz | I like the name | May 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | I mean Digital Rights | May 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | You can spin that on its head | May 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | And associate RIGHT with the right to access and modify code | May 29 21:14 |
cubezzz | yeah that wouldn't be as good as techrights | May 29 21:14 |
schestowitz | The name wasn't my idea | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | It was tessier's | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | We almosy chose ITRIM | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | ThistleWeb's suggestion | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | Vista 7 was the idea of someone in this channel who used a Mac | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | And Fog computing, hypeP* is also from IRC | May 29 21:15 |
ThistleWeb | what am I getting the blame for? | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | "Boycott Novell" was Shane's | May 29 21:15 |
schestowitz | I don't think I make up many terms and stick with them, it's better done as groups | May 29 21:16 |
schestowitz | ThistleWeb: suggesting other site names | May 29 21:16 |
ThistleWeb | ahh | May 29 21:16 |
schestowitz | We can look back at the suggestion we had | May 29 21:16 |
schestowitz | The debate is publicly accessible | May 29 21:16 |
cubezzz | a blog on coreboot might be an idea | May 29 21:17 |
cubezzz | I've been mulling it over | May 29 21:17 |
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MinceR | what does ITRIM stand for? | May 29 21:18 |
*DaemonFC is downloading Ubuntu | May 29 21:18 | |
DaemonFC | I want to see where Mesa is at and this appears to be the only way of doing that easily | May 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20006331-1.html | May 29 21:19 |
Techrights | Title: Lenovo tablets, smartbooks delayed for Android | Crave - CNET .::. Size~: 83.5 KB | May 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: why? | May 29 21:19 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: xorg-edgers | May 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | "I use Ubuntu butt.." | May 29 21:19 |
cubezzz | I don't use Ubuntu :) | May 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | No, I was joking about "but" trolls | May 29 21:19 |
schestowitz | MinceR: IT something | May 29 21:20 |
cubezzz | non programmers.... | May 29 21:20 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I can do it without leaving the LiveCD | May 29 21:20 |
MinceR | schestowitz: i got it that far :> | May 29 21:20 |
cubezzz | they just don't understand | May 29 21:20 |
schestowitz | ask ThistleWeb | May 29 21:20 |
MinceR | ThistleWeb: ^ | May 29 21:20 |
DaemonFC | so it's not like I'm married to it if it still doesn't work for me | May 29 21:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Fair point. Ive put the question out to COLA,but I think you are right. I won't change the original, merely retweet. | May 29 21:20 | |
cubezzz | Linux is probably optimized mainly for server, not a 3d game box | May 29 21:20 |
ThistleWeb | cant remember the itrim idea being mine, maybe it was, it's just not ringing any bells right now | May 29 21:21 |
MinceR | ic | May 29 21:21 |
schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+%22itrim%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | May 29 21:21 |
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cubezzz | $1500 for the new Amiga X1000 motherboard | May 29 21:21 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz: it's fairly easy to build your own kernel that's not "generic" | May 29 21:21 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ofcom and its Code of Practice - http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/ofcom-and-its-anti-piracy-tactics/ #bittorent #tpb #piracy | May 29 21:21 | |
MinceR | ic | May 29 21:21 |
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DaemonFC | Ubuntu's desktop kernel config is safe instead of "performs best on certain hardware" | May 29 21:21 |
schestowitz | "IT Rights Monitor." | May 29 21:22 |
cubezzz | I mean, I'm running server... | May 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/irc-log-30032010.html#tMar%2030%2002:17:00 | May 29 21:22 |
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cubezzz | playing 3d stuff on my server isn't too smart really | May 29 21:22 |
DaemonFC | I've tinkered with the kernel configuration enough to know that you can expect abut 4-5% performance improvement by going from a generic kernel to one tweaked to what you need it for | May 29 21:22 |
schestowitz | tech rights is similar after all | May 29 21:22 |
Aondo | unless it's a game server :D | May 29 21:22 |
cubezzz | ;-) | May 29 21:22 |
DaemonFC | it's worth an hour of background compiling :) | May 29 21:22 |
DaemonFC | of course on older systems, it could be painful | May 29 21:23 |
DaemonFC | 4-5 hours or more | May 29 21:23 |
cubezzz | compiling KDE 3.4.2 took over a day | May 29 21:23 |
cubezzz | on this box | May 29 21:23 |
DaemonFC | depends on your compiler and on your CPU | May 29 21:23 |
schestowitz | kde 3 is coming back | May 29 21:24 |
schestowitz | Trinity | May 29 21:24 |
cubezzz | oh? | May 29 21:24 |
cubezzz | good | May 29 21:24 |
MinceR | is it going to get desktop compositing? | May 29 21:24 |
DaemonFC | and RAM | May 29 21:25 |
DaemonFC | some things take lots of RAM to compile | May 29 21:25 |
DaemonFC | or bad things happen :) | May 29 21:25 |
cubezzz | yeah, I should really max this board's ram out | May 29 21:25 |
DaemonFC | I have 8 GB | May 29 21:25 |
cubezzz | lol, I have 384 meg | May 29 21:25 |
DaemonFC | there's nothing I've done on Windows or Linux that overruns 8 GB | May 29 21:26 |
cubezzz | but how many watts are you using eh? | May 29 21:26 |
cubezzz | I'm under 100 watts | May 29 21:26 |
MinceR | i have 4GB | May 29 21:26 |
DaemonFC | 300 watt power supply | May 29 21:26 |
DaemonFC | no wait, I used a 350 | May 29 21:26 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 29 21:26 |
MinceR | 170W power brick | May 29 21:26 |
cubezzz | my zaurus uses 5 watts :) | May 29 21:27 |
DaemonFC | power consumption has gotten a lot better in the last several years | May 29 21:27 |
cubezzz | they are still power pigs | May 29 21:27 |
DaemonFC | you can now run a system that doesn't suck on 300 watts or less | May 29 21:27 |
cubezzz | intel atom isn't bad though | May 29 21:27 |
cubezzz | for power usage | May 29 21:27 |
DaemonFC | I remember when you needed 300 watts just to run a 3 Ghz Celeron, a GB of DDR, and onboard video | May 29 21:28 |
DaemonFC | yuck | May 29 21:28 |
cubezzz | yeah you see I bypass all that | May 29 21:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I believe that GNU/Linux should support Mozilla/Firefox and Konqueror which were there in the early days, saving Linux users on 'MSIE Web' | May 29 21:28 | |
cubezzz | went from p3 -> arm -> ???? | May 29 21:28 |
MinceR | hm, apparently my Nokia N97 can get by on less than 14mW when it's not doing anything, but is on the UMTS network :) | May 29 21:29 |
DaemonFC | 386 SX 33, 486 DX4-100, upgraded that to a Pentium 133 with an overdrive set :) | May 29 21:29 |
cubezzz | memory is probably the biggest bottleneck for me | May 29 21:30 |
DaemonFC | then I went to the AMD K6/2 550 | May 29 21:30 |
DaemonFC | I ended up getting the Pentium Overdrive set because of Windows 95 | May 29 21:31 |
DaemonFC | which was not your friend on a 486 :) | May 29 21:31 |
DaemonFC | even a fast 486 | May 29 21:31 |
DaemonFC | I remember my aunt trying to slap Windows 95 on her existing 486 system so she could go back to doing all the thigns she could on Windows 3.11, except 10 times slower | May 29 21:32 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did you get one of those free newspapers that Microsoft apparently bought for everyone in the UK? | May 29 21:33 |
DaemonFC | for the Windows 95 launch that is | May 29 21:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Peppermint, with Google Docs integrated! An excellent cloud/lightweight distro. Review shortly! #linux #foss http://twitpic.com/1s8ic0 | May 29 21:38 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 Release Candidate 2 (build OOO320m18) available: http://tinyurl.com/36xjs7p #msoffice #microsoft #foss #free #linux | May 29 21:47 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: I never heard of that | May 29 21:53 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, Wikipedia said they did at one point | May 29 21:53 |
schestowitz | Bill Gates is in this business now | May 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | He's a monopoliser | May 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | Some people are womanisers | May 29 21:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Google Docs is proprietary. Recommend to everyone Free/libre software | May 29 21:55 | |
schestowitz | This guy is a vicious monopoliser | May 29 21:55 |
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schestowitz | Not cause he's buying media but cause he glorifies himself in it with PR people | May 29 21:55 |
schestowitz | He allegedly said he'd spent 50% of his money on PR | May 29 21:56 |
schestowitz | I saw the quote, could verify its legitimacy | May 29 21:57 |
schestowitz | Microsoft PR: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/61779 | May 29 21:57 |
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schestowitz | Dunce from Citrix | May 29 21:57 |
schestowitz | I hardly _ever_ use question marks in headlines | May 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | They are often sign of provocation or pretend uncertainty | May 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | When you say something you don't mean but say it anyway | May 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | My headlines are very long because many people just read headlines and want the full story to be recoverable from it | May 29 21:58 |
schestowitz | I'd better post some news now, before I nap again by accident | May 29 22:00 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Agreed but used "as well as" not "instead of" I think it is a great option. | May 29 22:01 | |
schestowitz | http://www.rumorsplace.com/the-nokia-n8-seeks-to-challenge-the-iphone-236 | May 29 22:02 |
Techrights | Title: The Nokia N8 seeks to challenge the iPhone | Rumors Place .::. Size~: 18.18 KB | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | Nokia is in deep, deep muf | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | *mud | May 29 22:02 |
MinceR | nokia's been making better phones than the hypePhone for years | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | ANd Finland's IR industry is therefore at risk (my friend tells me so) | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | MinceR: but not enough cult/priesthood | May 29 22:02 |
MinceR | so i don't see what all this bullshit about 'challenging the hypePhone' is | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | Like Guy Kawasaki | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | Apple hires cheerleaders like Microsoft | May 29 22:02 |
schestowitz | The ITClergy if you will... | May 29 22:03 |
MinceR | if someone wants to pay a lot for a useless piece of crap and free admittance to a cult, they'll get a hypePhone | May 29 22:03 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | May 29 22:03 |
MinceR | if they want a good smartphone or pda/phone, one of the brands they can choose will be nokia | May 29 22:03 |
schestowitz | "'iPad' rival..." | May 29 22:03 |
schestowitz | Like, what the B0RN is the iPad?? | May 29 22:03 |
schestowitz | Tell me when the POS multitasks | May 29 22:03 |
schestowitz | Then it can enter the era of Windows 3 | May 29 22:03 |
MinceR | it's a crippled tablet pc imitation | May 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | Today I overheard at the gym a praise about hypePhone | May 29 22:04 |
MinceR | with some of the idiot press believing that crApple invented tablet pcs with it | May 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | I can't recall the words, sonething like "it's the perfect phone" | May 29 22:04 |
MinceR | lol | May 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | People don't compare it to the right phones | May 29 22:04 |
schestowitz | Another friend of mine has a crappy old Samsung phones | May 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | He lost 2 in the loo | May 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | *phone [LiMo maybe, or some generic] | May 29 22:05 |
MinceR | my old samsung sgh-c100 gave me more control than the hypePhone gives its user | May 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | It's funny when he loses some and uses his girlfriend's pink one temporarily | May 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | Then I ask him about colours | May 29 22:05 |
schestowitz | And how genders 'hiajcked' colours | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | But.. | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | Girls can use ANY colour | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | Guys cam't | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | *Can't | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | So we're in a worse position | May 29 22:06 |
MinceR | i wouldn't want to use pink, yellow or brown anyway | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | And there is no such thing as "girl" colour... it's to do just with upbringing | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | MinceR: brown liike burl wood? | May 29 22:06 |
schestowitz | Or the many shades of feces or soil? | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | You could make brown fashionable | May 29 22:07 |
MinceR | the latter | May 29 22:07 |
MinceR | i could, but i don't care | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | You could make brown suits fashionable too | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | Or blue | May 29 22:07 |
MinceR | i don't like suits | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | But tuxedos come in black | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | So there is expectancy | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | It takes coordinated effort to break fashion norm | May 29 22:07 |
schestowitz | MinceR: but "suits are great" | May 29 22:08 |
MinceR | suits suck | May 29 22:08 |
schestowitz | They prove you are rich..... enough to buy some garment :-) | May 29 22:08 |
MinceR | they're ugly, uncomfortable and impractical | May 29 22:08 |
schestowitz | What if we gave the homeless suits? | May 29 22:08 |
schestowitz | To devalue the image of suits | May 29 22:08 |
schestowitz | That would put off businessman, who would start wearing hippie Hawaiian shirts instead | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | *men | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | [22:08] <MinceR> they're ugly, uncomfortable and impractical | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | You can't be serious! | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | Ties? | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | The most practical thing | May 29 22:09 |
MinceR | ties are even worse | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | Like... if you spill mustard | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | You might need something to wipe it with | May 29 22:09 |
MinceR | they constrict the neck and provide no utility | May 29 22:09 |
schestowitz | And wait.. | May 29 22:10 |
MinceR | i don't want to carry my napkin around my neck | May 29 22:10 |
schestowitz | I'll show you how our PR uses his tie | May 29 22:10 |
schestowitz | The son of a gun | May 29 22:10 |
MinceR | non-crap clothing has pockets for that sort of thing | May 29 22:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VaP1HB7Vew | May 29 22:10 |
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schestowitz | snot brown :-) | May 29 22:10 |
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schestowitz | Anyhoo, suits are a tradition of centuries... won't change any time soon | May 29 22:13 |
MinceR | "Although Symbian is the system used by most mobile phones in the world, industry experts feel that his image was not the best in the most demanding users profile." | May 29 22:14 |
MinceR | wow | May 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | I hated wearing suits. Looks nice, not comfortable. | May 29 22:14 |
MinceR | hypePhone fanboy has some nerve talking about demanding users | May 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | "There's a sect for that, too" | May 29 22:14 |
MinceR | i don't even like the look of suits | May 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | It's black | May 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | It covers the whole body | May 29 22:14 |
schestowitz | It's uniform | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | It has hanging bits | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | But it's a uniform | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | It's "the uniform of the rich" | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | So to project some image you need to wear them | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | I have about 6 suits | May 29 22:15 |
MinceR | the uniform of those who take themselves too seriously | May 29 22:15 |
MinceR | and are willing to dress up in that clown suit to impress others | May 29 22:15 |
schestowitz | Imagine Nokia's CEO showing up in a jumper | May 29 22:16 |
MinceR | i prefer polo shirts and jeans | May 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | Jobs fan | May 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | ANd sneakers | May 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | "Look at me!! I'm so hip." | May 29 22:16 |
MinceR | i prefer more advanced athletic shoes | May 29 22:16 |
schestowitz | Real men wear shorts | May 29 22:17 |
schestowitz | Linux users wear sandals /sarcasm | May 29 22:17 |
schestowitz | It comes with the live CD | May 29 22:17 |
MinceR | i don't like sandals | May 29 22:17 |
schestowitz | Odour? | May 29 22:18 |
MinceR | stuff like pebbles getting in and causing trouble | May 29 22:19 |
MinceR | and collecting dust in general | May 29 22:19 |
schestowitz | Here's a man getting sweaty in a suit: http://beta.thehindu.com/business/companies/article439678.ece | May 29 22:20 |
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schestowitz | Or maybe he sweats cause he can't find the "on" button | May 29 22:20 |
schestowitz | But there's not much visible dust in cities (like dirt) | May 29 22:21 |
schestowitz | Dust is everywhere | May 29 22:21 |
schestowitz | Some just believe it doesn't exist when they can't see it with the naked eye | May 29 22:21 |
MinceR | there's plenty of visible dust in cities on the ground | May 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | Haha http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/article/16366/randd/forced-partnering-could-kill-innovation | May 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | "The suggestion from Batt O’Keeffe TD that industry partnerships should be made mandatory for all stages of third-level research has been met with some opposition, with one software industry professional warning that it could kill open source by leading to 100pc proprietary software development here in Ireland." | May 29 22:22 |
Techrights | Title: SiliconRepublic.com: Forced industry partnering could kill innovation - R&D .::. Size~: 37.41 KB | May 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | Totally the opposite!! | May 29 22:22 |
schestowitz | MinceR: 'air' particles are full of dust especially in windy days with nearby construction projects | May 29 22:23 |
schestowitz | I used to spend too much time 'relocating' dust | May 29 22:23 |
MinceR | touch the sidewalk the next time you can | May 29 22:23 |
MinceR | and you'll find out what i'm talking about | May 29 22:23 |
schestowitz | Some people make a living coming to other people's houses and relocating dust | May 29 22:24 |
schestowitz | [22:23] <MinceR> touch the sidewalk the next time you can | May 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | No, thanks. | May 29 22:25 |
MinceR | you're starting to get it :> | May 29 22:25 |
schestowitz | Sounds like a task for Nagy György http://nagyorgy.uw.hu/ | May 29 22:26 |
MinceR | of course, sand or the like is worse | May 29 22:26 |
MinceR | sandals will scoop up as much as they can | May 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | Sand is less fine | May 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | Less air bourne too | May 29 22:26 |
MinceR | a shoe will only get a bit dirty on the outside | May 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | No sweat | May 29 22:26 |
schestowitz | No heat | May 29 22:27 |
schestowitz | No static electricity | May 29 22:28 |
schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/61836 | May 29 22:29 |
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schestowitz | They don't know AGPL? | May 29 22:29 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP commits genocide http://ur1.ca/04ad2 | May 29 22:32 | |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/33887555#notice-34053997 | May 29 22:35 |
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schestowitz | "i'm looking for a descent linux-based tablet. do you have any to suggest?" | May 29 22:35 |
schestowitz | Are there any arm-based ones yet? | May 29 22:35 |
schestowitz | Maybe cubezzz knows | May 29 22:35 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: yes | May 29 22:35 |
Diablo-D3 | theres a few android arm tablets | May 29 22:35 |
schestowitz | yeah, but which/where? | May 29 22:35 |
schestowitz | Anyway, I replied to him: There's joojoo, some ones from acer/asus/dell/hp (coming soon) | May 29 22:38 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: I generally see phones as evil | May 29 22:38 |
DaemonFC | Why do people carry phones around with them so that all the people they don't want to talk to can reach them anywhere at any time | May 29 22:39 |
DaemonFC | *? | May 29 22:39 |
MinceR | so that all the people they do want to talk to can reach them anywhere at any time | May 29 22:39 |
MinceR | and so when they make an appointment, they can find each other -- even if one of them is late | May 29 22:40 |
MinceR | and so that they can reach the people they want to talk to | May 29 22:40 |
MinceR | my phone is a lot more than just a phone, though | May 29 22:40 |
cubezzz | I like zaurus actually | May 29 22:41 |
cubezzz | somestime tigerdirect has tablets | May 29 22:41 |
cubezzz | you could do a search on linux and see what pops up | May 29 22:42 |
DaemonFC | Tiger Direct is kind of dodgy | May 29 22:43 |
DaemonFC | sometimes you get a good deal and most of the time the thing you get just falls apart | May 29 22:43 |
DaemonFC | if it says Refurbished, run like hell | May 29 22:43 |
DaemonFC | :D | May 29 22:43 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Best Eurovison song of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98VbZQsgme4 #eurovison #yourockon #metal | May 29 22:45 | |
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cubezzz | you could get the zaurus C1000 pretty cheap | May 29 22:51 |
cubezzz | $100 to $150 | May 29 22:51 |
cubezzz | and the keyboard isn't too bad | May 29 22:52 |
cubezzz | ebay has a few Smart Q's | May 29 22:56 |
MinceR | what's a Smart Q? | May 29 22:57 |
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cubezzz | http://cgi.ebay.com/SmartQ-V7-7-Tablet-Android-Linux-CE-HDMI-MID-LOT-20-/300431973031?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item45f3241aa7 | May 29 23:01 |
Techrights | Title: SmartQ V7 7" Tablet Android Linux CE HDMI MID LOT of 20 - eBay (item 300431973031 end time Jun-26-10 20:24:52 PDT) .::. Size~: 112.21 KB | May 29 23:01 |
cubezzz | about $240 singlely | May 29 23:02 |
cubezzz | I'd rather have something with a keyboard myself | May 29 23:04 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Have I ever said how much I like Georgia? #eurovision | May 29 23:11 | |
MinceR | so would i | May 29 23:11 |
MinceR | and something with real gnu/linux, not android (but maybe that can be fixed) | May 29 23:12 |
cubezzz | it's got Ubuntu... | May 29 23:13 |
cubezzz | it looks like it triple boots actually | May 29 23:13 |
MinceR | ic | May 29 23:13 |
cubezzz | I wonder if any of these tablet things use KDE | May 29 23:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] _THIS_ _WON_ Eurovision? What on earth? That's it I'm moving to Antarctica! #eurovision | May 29 23:22 | |
cubezzz | or just forget dodgey tablets and get a toughbook :) | May 29 23:23 |
MinceR | thanks, my thinkpad w700 is heavy enough :> | May 29 23:23 |
MinceR | no need to replace it with something even heavier | May 29 23:24 |
DaemonFC | I canceled my Netflix | May 29 23:26 |
DaemonFC | Think I'll go back to renting from the $1 DVD vending machines | May 29 23:26 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 29 23:26 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Should have done this a while ago to return the kind follows!...... | May 29 23:26 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why "scientists" who deny global warming misunderstand the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZzwRwFDXw0&feature=digest | May 29 23:27 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #Follow @schestowitz @sazzlerock @LadyOfMercury @popey @holorami .... I'll do more later...those are the ones off the top of my head! | May 29 23:28 | |
MinceR | apparently not all toughbooks are heavy (but not all are so rugged either) | May 29 23:28 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: I want one that can survive an assault via jackhammer, being run over by a forklift, and a nuclear explosion even | May 29 23:30 |
DaemonFC | does Panasonic make those? :D | May 29 23:30 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: http://www.toughbook.eu/ | May 29 23:30 |
Techrights | Title: Language Selection Page | Panasonic Toughbook .::. Size~: 10.92 KB | May 29 23:30 |
MinceR | actually they probably have a usian site too | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | that would be .com for me | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | yeah, they should | May 29 23:31 |
MinceR | they have convertible tablets, that's interesting | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | they probably sell most of their stuff here | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | Japanese company makes shit in China and sells it in the United States | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | fairly typical | May 29 23:31 |
DaemonFC | I don't really care how tough the case is | May 29 23:32 |
DaemonFC | if it has an Intel CPU in it, it'll probably fail within the first year I own it | May 29 23:32 |
MinceR | calling a 10.4" convertible tablet "Lightweight at just 2.3kg" is kind of a stretch, though :> | May 29 23:33 |
DaemonFC | 5 pounds | May 29 23:33 |
DaemonFC | that's not terrible | May 29 23:33 |
MinceR | for a netbook-sized device? :> | May 29 23:34 |
DaemonFC | maybe they just meant light for how durable it is? | May 29 23:34 |
MinceR | probably | May 29 23:34 |
DaemonFC | wait a second | May 29 23:34 |
DaemonFC | they measure screen size in inches, throughout Europe? | May 29 23:35 |
DaemonFC | that's odd | May 29 23:35 |
MinceR | yes they do | May 29 23:35 |
MinceR | for computers, that is | May 29 23:35 |
MinceR | it's still common to use cm-s for tv-s | May 29 23:35 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, it would seem that you have the opposite problem that we do then | May 29 23:36 |
DaemonFC | here it's, most stuff in US customary units (tweaked Imperial measurements) with the damndest thing here or there using metric | May 29 23:36 |
DaemonFC | :) | May 29 23:36 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Song #6 tracked on drums. :-) | May 29 23:36 | |
DaemonFC | then you find yourself saying "How far is that?" | May 29 23:37 |
DaemonFC | "How big is that?" | May 29 23:37 |
DaemonFC | "It weighs how much?" | May 29 23:37 |
DaemonFC | I just keep a "close enough" table in my head now | May 29 23:38 |
DaemonFC | :) | May 29 23:38 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: What the hell is going on with Mandriva? | May 29 23:40 |
DaemonFC | Seems to be day to day operations continue with no word as to what's going to happen to the company or when. | May 29 23:40 |
DaemonFC | bbl I suppose | May 29 23:41 |
DaemonFC | :P | May 29 23:41 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Next track: my Egyptian sounding one. Drums here we go. Incidentally, part of the reason for no video: it is hot and I am barely clothed. | May 29 23:43 | |
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