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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30457445#notice-30546208 "@schestowitz come on, you know you like the new !kubuntu :)" | Apr 30 07:12 |
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| schestowitz | Works OK so far. | Apr 30 07:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30457445#notice-30546483 "@schestowitz what distro are you currently using?" | Apr 30 07:13 |
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| schestowitz | I tried PCLinuxOS last and right now I'm giving Kubuntu a go | Apr 30 07:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] charging the tomtom for the journey to Liverpool for #oggcamp | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Do anybody know how to change lucid plymouth spalsh screen from commad line? #ubuntu | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What is so special about SchoolOS - Gobotype FSH + Project roadmap http://post.ly/e74X | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] So looking forward to Liverpool tomorrow | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@DarthNader RT @yagbebi I abhor <thing>. It is NOT a religion,but a lifestyle //next step: dehumanise <group> & we all know where this ends | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Indian telecoms ban Chinese equipment over back-door suspicions. Ha! #India #China http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/29/1830221 | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Odd hearing @mollywood mention Jeremy Clarkson on Buzz Out Loud. | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera ah, that one...I preferred 00 Goblin License to FOSS. | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hoarders - #ebay edition. Oh wait, that's my house... | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: What is so special about SchoolOS - Gobotype FSH + Project roadmap - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 32.23 KB | Apr 30 07:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear lulu.com. Let me know total cost _before_ I punch in my credit card number. Seriously, online store 101 fail. | Apr 30 07:22 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot | India, China Try Import Regulations As Security Tools .::. Size~: 135.74 KB | Apr 30 07:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Search Engines Modelled On Politicians | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/38czt8z | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "He often wore a face like the Fat Controller trying to wee through a Hula Hoop without splashing the sides." http://is.gd/bNGUd #ge2010 | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @5MillionPeople Massive #oil spill spreading too fast to contain... http://bit.ly/b0Sepv #environment #bp #palin #gop #energy | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @careabthealth not 1 homeless person in #Cuba, universal #hcr, they have learned to grow #food w/o pesticides. they had to make it work. | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Golly Tim Minchin really is quite a clever chap. Like++ | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rww via @chrissaad Open not Enough. Interoperable next http://bit.ly/cpG0pn //monopolies loathe&debase both concepts. #facebook #microsoft | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading to the Thirsty Bear in San Francisco soon for the Ubuntu Release Party! #ubuntu | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Beckbasher RT @_Va_Fongool fucking lesbian communist w/no family..u don't have any kids so u don't give a fuck //beck's ppl; always classy | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What's the reaction among #Brazil ians to the #Arizona #AZ papers-please law? http://bit.ly/94mPVO duas palavras: CONTRA. BOICOTE! | Apr 30 07:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego I have a certificate of life birth that does not have a doctor's signature // stay out of #AZ ;) | Apr 30 07:23 | |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: TV debate: a cross between Songs of Praise and Over the Rainbow | Charlie Brooker |Comment is free |The Guardian .::. Size~: 173.76 KB | Apr 30 07:23 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Open is not enough. Time to raise the bar: Interoperable | Chris Saad Paying Attention .::. Size~: 29.79 KB | Apr 30 07:23 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: G1 > Mundo - NOTÍCIAS - Lei de imigração do Arizona enfrenta recurso legal .::. Size~: 53.88 KB | Apr 30 07:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego hey Sarah #palin, how's that "drill, baby, drill" working out for you now? //no doubt she finds the catastrophe acceptable | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego you'll enjoy her updated views on #immigration. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591654,00.html #palin #az | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@smokinjoe101 Did you think I was an #Obama fan? I don't care what the WH says or does. | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RE: @72831048 Local jobbing printer anticipates DTP font soup. Rockwell, Copperplate, Gill, really? ;-) http://disq.us/dlseg | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Schandalig: geen enkel woord over Ubuntu 10.04 release op Webwereld. Wat een Microsoft PR site! Boycotten die handel!!! | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@AisleOne I still can't seem to fully figure out when to use a dash instead of a comma // parenthetical dashes more emphatic break | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@pareidoliac why don't human rights activists challenge bans on nudity in both islamic & secular states? // prob b/c bigger fish are frying | Apr 30 07:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GlennBeckClips #Obama in evry “green” #energy project..stands to be a billionaire //wait a min, making piles $$ under table is WRONG now?? | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GlennBeckClips Imagine, by quitting presidency TODAY, all that money could he his much sooner! #Palin By Comparison | Apr 30 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@smokinjoe101 see my last tweet to you. #Obama is not *my* spokesman. | Apr 30 07:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rjurney #Snorcle gets up to 12 cores in 1RU. #sun #oracle http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/x86/030275.htm | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The Friedmanesque trope "developing world" can now be paired with the "unravelling world". | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #Sony sued for removal of #Linux support from #PS3: http://is.gd/bO2zU | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Trying #kubuntu 10.0 at the moment, not decided yet | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@LusciousPear OH: "Paul Graham is one of my #gay #programming heroes." #lolwut // well, he speaks with a #Lisp | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Ed Felten weighs in. Worth a read. - India's Electronic Voting Machines Have Security Problems: http://j.mp/ajO7Hq | Apr 30 07:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Worth a read. - ACTA: Impact On India and Other Developing Countries: http://j.mp/bD5ZZM | Apr 30 07:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@valdiskrebs We're so good at creating problems "no one could have predicted" //except the Rapture! Same idiots are totally prep'd for that | Apr 30 07:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Staff dude at Yarra #Trams called me back for a detailed 20 min chat about fare evasion policy. How's that 4 customer relations! #melbourne | Apr 30 08:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fare evasion is epidemic in #Melbourne - city of freeloaders, apparently - tram operators caught in the middle. Bring back conductors! #myki | Apr 30 08:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Turns out that the #TTC's single entry design for #streetcars is very preventive of fare evasion compared to #Melbourne trams. | Apr 30 08:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #TTC does have a driver assault problem, though (Can you believe it?) #uncanadian | Apr 30 08:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] We Didn't Start the Fire #bpsongs | Apr 30 08:19 | |
| schestowitz | Hmm... disabling Javascript in Thunderbird is now a hidden option | Apr 30 08:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #kde 4.2.2 brings many good improvements. Users of previous versions of KDE ought to will love it. I love it. | Apr 30 08:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30464092#notice-30552084 "I believe you mean #kde 4.4.2 RD: @schestowitz: !kde 4.2.2 brings many good improvements." | Apr 30 08:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Oops. I meant #kde 4.4.2. Thanks, @jeffseguerra | Apr 30 08:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'borderline simpleton, fame-seeking narcissist whose self-interested grab for attention'..Rielle Hunter or Sarah Palin? http://bit.ly/a9HaNk | Apr 30 08:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Insiders Speak About the Case Against #Android http://ur1.ca/y1v3 #racket #apple #htc #linux | Apr 30 08:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hewitt's wrong. Nobody wants the Wild West of '#IE innovation' back. The www *is* standards. http://tcrn.ch/9qBpP6 via @glynmoody #w3c | Apr 30 08:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Kids packed off to school, time to load up the car for the journey to #oggcamp | Apr 30 09:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jdub Hewitt's rant comes off as whiny that the #w3c doesn't work to his schedule. The West was won; #IE lost. 'Innovation' is BS #facebook | Apr 30 09:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jdub we already know what having a zillion incompatible browsers is like - & we still have #IE around to remind us. Do Not Want. #w3c #www | Apr 30 09:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mind you, before #oggcamp there's a #geeknic today and then Rathole Radio gig tonight! Packed weekend! | Apr 30 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] The house smells lovely, I have baked a fresh loaf of bread for the #geeknic :) | Apr 30 09:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Six reasons to refuse the United Patent Litigation System (UPLS): http://ur1.ca/y213 | Apr 30 09:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @Ebuyerdotcom: New EbuyerHQ blog post: Ebuyer is supporting Oggcamp 10 http://blog.ebuyer.com/2010/04/ebuyer-is-supporting-oggcamp-10/ | Apr 30 09:31 | |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of the freedom-hostile | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy at Tue Apr 20 14:45:59 2010 | Apr 30 09:48 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Apr 30 09:49 | |
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| MinceR | hay | Apr 30 09:59 |
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| Ender2070 | kubuntu is looking good so far | Apr 30 10:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] W.H.Thorpe, an evolutionist scientist acknowledges that "the most elementary type of cell constitutes a (cont) http://tl.gd/137chv | Apr 30 10:06 | |
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| schestowitz | Works ok here | Apr 30 10:11 |
| schestowitz | minor glitch once | Apr 30 10:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the updater worked ok even though it reported "fatal error" at the end | Apr 30 10:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to install gnash ATM | Apr 30 10:12 |
| MinceR | so they still can't get their updaters right | Apr 30 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Firefox doesn't quite 'detect' it yet | Apr 30 10:12 |
| MinceR | perhaps you have also another Trash plugin -- then you can switch via galternatives, for example | Apr 30 10:13 |
| MinceR | (and then you need to restart firefox) | Apr 30 10:13 |
| MinceR | i could run two firefox instances side by side, one running swfdec and the other running Trash, by changing the setting between starting the two | Apr 30 10:14 |
| schestowitz | Ah, let me try this.. | Apr 30 10:15 |
| Ender2070 | kubutu is functioning well on my notebook | Apr 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Firefox says "flash crashed" | Apr 30 10:17 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: no Fedora? | Apr 30 10:18 |
| Ender2070 | i have it on my desktop | Apr 30 10:23 |
| Ender2070 | 10.04 caught up with fedora 11 i think in terms of versions | Apr 30 10:24 |
| Ender2070 | f12 has kernel 2.6.33 already, kubuntu 10.04 has 2.6.32 | Apr 30 10:25 |
| Ender2070 | i might try arch again soon | Apr 30 10:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] via @moodindi 'over 80% of land was part of 40yr old Babile Elephant Sanctuary' #biofuel venture fizzles in #Ethiopia http://bit.ly/dgRi1V | Apr 30 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ethiopia: German biofuel company fails as employees abscond with assets - Afrik.com : Africa news, Maghreb news - The african daily newspaper .::. Size~: 42.26 KB | Apr 30 10:32 |
| Ender2070 | i think even rhel6 has a newer kernel | Apr 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | I hate Trash | Apr 30 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Waste of time | Apr 30 10:43 |
| Ender2070 | trash? | Apr 30 10:44 |
| Ender2070 | ahh | Apr 30 10:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I hate Adobe Trash Player. It's causing issues. | Apr 30 10:49 | |
| Ender2070 | is that 32-bit trash or 64-bit trash | Apr 30 10:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Nice name! :-) | Apr 30 10:50 | |
| schestowitz | 32 bit | Apr 30 10:51 |
| Ender2070 | got all the annoying wrappers? | Apr 30 10:51 |
| schestowitz | I never had so much problem with it... | Apr 30 10:52 |
| schestowitz | "update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/iceape/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so (iceape-flashplugin) in auto mode." | Apr 30 10:52 |
| schestowitz | [...] | Apr 30 10:52 |
| Ender2070 | i use 64-bit trash with chromium | Apr 30 10:53 |
| schestowitz | It works in Konqueror now | Apr 30 10:54 |
| schestowitz | But weirdly | Apr 30 10:54 |
| Ender2070 | weird | Apr 30 10:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Argh. Woke up 15 minutes ago, and it hurts so damned much that I'm up, and staying up. | Apr 30 10:57 | |
| schestowitz | Installing flash is more trouble than installing Linux | Apr 30 11:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] After 2 hours of fighting #Adobe Trash: sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so works.. | Apr 30 11:07 | |
| Ender2070 | cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ (64-bit) | Apr 30 11:08 |
| Ender2070 | dont use 32-bit | Apr 30 11:08 |
| schestowitz | I've just installed chromium too | Apr 30 11:08 |
| schestowitz | I'll check it out later...... | Apr 30 11:08 |
| Ender2070 | seriously | Apr 30 11:08 |
| schestowitz | OK, back to writing posts | Apr 30 11:08 |
| Ender2070 | the 64-bit version "just works" | Apr 30 11:08 |
| Ender2070 | no stupid wrappers and compatibility layers required | Apr 30 11:09 |
| Ender2070 | dont let the 'alpha' tag scare you off | Apr 30 11:10 |
| Ender2070 | adobe is just honest with linux users, windows users get worse as 'final' ;) | Apr 30 11:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Me Too ;-) Haven't used Gnome since I installed #KDE 4.4.2 on #Ubuntu 10.04. | Apr 30 11:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Off to #oggcamp! Vrooom! | Apr 30 11:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @LivemintUID: Centre for Internet + Society's @sunil_abraham expresses #Aadhaar #security concerns at video.livemint.com. | Apr 30 11:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @privacyint: More privacy discussion in UK election: DNA database, stop+search. http://is.gd/bOh5X Biometric passports mentioned in lead | Apr 30 11:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Do you use Kubuntu or PCLinuxOS now? | Apr 30 11:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting sweets for the journey.some random woman got in the car! "oh sorry, wrong car!" #oggcamp | Apr 30 11:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] In Kubuntu just type in a terminal: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras for instal. and auto-config non free codecs and stuff | Apr 30 11:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ‘Embraces’ #Joomla to Spread Proprietary Software ( #Windows and IIS) http://ur1.ca/y2jk #foss | Apr 30 11:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GMWatch #Obama nominee for key admin post (EPA). Bg #Monsanto, Shell, General Dynamics (arms) http://bit.ly/bKV3On // so much for CHANGE | Apr 30 11:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst graphical effects are vastly improved. The KDE team did a spectacular job. | Apr 30 11:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My current KDE 4.4.2 desktop http://twitpic.com/1jlv0b | Apr 30 11:38 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: My current KDE 4.4.2 desktop on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.12 KB | Apr 30 11:38 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 30 11:40 |
| Ender2070 | funny how the world revolves around ubuntu | Apr 30 11:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Agreed. I am afraid this will be the end of the Gnome desktop @ml2mst. KDE 4.4.2 is georgious. | Apr 30 11:40 | |
| Ender2070 | i've been using KDE 4.4.2 forever | Apr 30 11:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Compiz-Fusion is not any longer required. KWin now does it all by itself. Fantastic! | Apr 30 11:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My modifications of Nuno Pinheiro's Ethais wallpaper on Kubuntu 10.04 (1920x1080) Widescreen http://twitpic.com/1jlwvt | Apr 30 11:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst yeah, but kwin did well also a year ago. I used Compiz in Mandriva 2008.1 with #KDE | Apr 30 11:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst My current KDE 4.4.2 desktop http://twitpic.com/1jlv0b | Apr 30 11:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @AntoniaZ DiManno kicks @PMHarper's ass on abortion. http://bit.ly/daup3R // she's usually wrong, but even a stopped clock... #cdnpoli | Apr 30 11:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A clause which make it clear that substantive patent law [..] should not be the subject of preliminary rulings by the ECJ http://ur1.ca/y2lv | Apr 30 11:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Indeed, I obviosly was too impatient to check all of Kwin's settings previously. Used compiz up until recently. | Apr 30 11:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Amarok also had a nice make over IIRC. | Apr 30 11:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Think i have removed all the libmono and mono apps from #ubuntu lucid, now... back in with #gimp. doesn't mono fall under bug #1 ? | Apr 30 12:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Messages are coming to you today in symbolic form and you may ... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Apr 30 12:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Adobe Trash Player and #Novell / #Microsoft #Mono http://ur1.ca/y2q8 I really hope that HTML4 makes #Adobe history | Apr 30 12:20 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Adobe Trash Player and Novell/Microsoft Mono | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.67 KB | Apr 30 12:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Heb dit artikel op Techworld.nl gisteren helemaal gemist (van Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols): http://tinyurl.com/33m4z2c | Apr 30 12:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Nieuwe tools in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - Techworld .::. Size~: 42.92 KB | Apr 30 12:21 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30463808#notice-30555072 "@schestowitz 4.2.2? Yes, the step up from 4.1.x was huge, but it gets even better with 4.3.x and 4.4.x... :)" | Apr 30 12:27 |
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| schestowitz | "@eothred I used 4.1, 4.3 and now 4.4, which is very, very polished. GNU/Linux ought to have !kde carry the flag for demos" | Apr 30 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Apr 30 12:29 |
| schestowitz | They attribute translation to English writers who don't do them | Apr 30 12:29 |
| schestowitz | "@sjvn you speak Dutch? ;-) http://techworld.nl/technologie/22517/nieuwe-tools-in-ubuntu-10-04-lts.html " | Apr 30 12:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Nieuwe tools in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - Techworld .::. Size~: 42.92 KB | Apr 30 12:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz LMAO :-) | Apr 30 12:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Here is the original article: http://tinyurl.com/385d4eh | Apr 30 12:38 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu 10.04: Where Ubuntu goes from here - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 70.56 KB | Apr 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz | “I would love to hear exactly how the GPL strips the consumer of “all their rights”. Even entertaining the BSD vs. GPL sort of arguments, I’ve never heard such hyperbole. | Apr 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | “I suppose the GPL might not be as consumer freedom-granting as the typical Microsoft EULA, but…” | Apr 30 12:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/microsoft-evangelist-gpl-strips-consumer-of-all-their-rights/ | Apr 30 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Evangelist: GPL strips consumer of all their rights « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 39.67 KB | Apr 30 12:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz I don't agree with him, praises F-Spot tojan :-( | Apr 30 12:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/1004features | Apr 30 12:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Features | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 17.89 KB | Apr 30 12:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to remove #Mono from #Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx http://ur1.ca/y32g thanks, @ml2mst | Apr 30 12:49 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx | The Open Sourcerer .::. Size~: 52.5 KB | Apr 30 12:49 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, typo detected: [Here is is:] ---> [Here it* is:] | Apr 30 12:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/30/ubuntu_10_04_review/ | Apr 30 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu's Lucid Lynx: A (free) Mactastic experience • The Register .::. Size~: 32.75 KB | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu gets loads of good reviews | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | This is good for GNU/Linux as a whole | Apr 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz | I remember the heckling yesterday, unnecessary infighting | Apr 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: than | Apr 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: thanks | Apr 30 13:07 |
| Omar87 | anytime. | Apr 30 13:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] It seems I have probably just managed to convince an atheist to embrace #Islam on Twitter. En sha'a Allah | Apr 30 13:20 | |
| schestowitz | Omar87: help spread Ubuntu today. I consider companies like Xandros and Novell (which pay Microsoft about $50 for each copy of GNU/Linux) to be a problem, not Ubuntu. | Apr 30 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Windows 'sheep' usually get drawn into Ubuntu, then they find other distros | Apr 30 13:21 |
| schestowitz | We can make 100 million desktop GNU/Linux within years | Apr 30 13:22 |
| schestowitz | *users | Apr 30 13:22 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, yeah. I will. | Apr 30 13:24 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, so do you suggest that I shouldn't leave Ubuntu? | Apr 30 13:24 |
| Eruaran | I haven't really looked at Ubuntu 10.04 yet | Apr 30 13:25 |
| Eruaran | But I will this weekend | Apr 30 13:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Haha...#eurodns doesn't allow their name servers to be delegated w/others. I guess they don't know that #dns is supposed to be *distributed* | Apr 30 13:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] With #eurodns all your eggs are in one basket. Their name servers are currently down; hence clients are 100% down thx to dumb policy | Apr 30 13:25 | |
| Eruaran | If I'm happy with it I'll push it really hard | Apr 30 13:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@johnleesandiego Malkin is author of "In Defense of Internment : The Case for Racial Profiling" // i'll just go read that now... *vomit* | Apr 30 13:26 | |
| Eruaran | I love Kubuntu but KPackageKit puts me off offering it to mum and dad | Apr 30 13:26 |
| Eruaran | Its just not friendly/easy enough | Apr 30 13:27 |
| Omar87 | Eruaran, but remember the lethal weapon: "sudo agt-get purge mono-runtime" ;) | Apr 30 13:27 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 30 13:27 |
| *schestowitz joins #ubuntu-bugs | Apr 30 13:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @LOA_Lover: Do all the good you can in all the ways u can~in all the places u can~at all the times u can~.. http://is.gd/bOqt6 | Apr 30 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitter / LOA Lover Tex: Do all the good you can in ... .::. Size~: 10.78 KB | Apr 30 13:30 |
| *Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-232-11.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 30 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | "Still, Asay concedes that Canonical faces challenges. Roughly 300 of the company’s 330 employees are engineers — meaning that Canonical still needs to ramp up its marketing and sales efforts more aggressively. But “because the company didn’t focus on money so long, the opportunities to make money are just sitting there.”" | Apr 30 13:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Beckbasher RT @Ceeb2:TO Beck Bashers.You have Not Proved that Obama is not Racist against the White Culture //LOL! LOL! LOL! *groan* | Apr 30 13:38 | |
| schestowitz | Not enough Ubuntu postings? http://linusearch.com/wordpress/?p=839 | Apr 30 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux and Whatever » Blog Archive » Not enough Ubuntu postings? .::. Size~: 9.8 KB | Apr 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | #kubuntu-bugs is almost empty | Apr 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | No reply yet | Apr 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | [13:29] <schestowitz> hello. I have just upgraded successfully to kubuntu 10.04 but was asked to report a bug | Apr 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | [13:30] <schestowitz> my /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log contain the details | Apr 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | [13:31] <schestowitz> Short story: a "fatal error" reported at end of upgrade, despite it seemingly working just fine. Would it be helpful to file the bug with the logs as attachments in the Web site? There are probably more high priority matters, but in case others who upgrade receive the same alarming error, this might be worth a look. | Apr 30 13:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Using Google latitude on the way to #oggcamp alan@popey.com | Apr 30 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | "With the recent release of Kubuntu 10.04 KDE 4.4.2 will reach the masses. Unfortunately in KDE 4.4.2, Nepomuk the KDE Desktop Search tool is enabled by default." http://www.freetechie.com/blog/disable-nepomuk-desktop-search-on-kde-4-4-2-kubuntu-lucid-10-04/ | Apr 30 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Disable Nepomuk (Desktop Search) on KDE 4.4.2 Kubuntu Lucid 10.04 | Free Techie Blog .::. Size~: 82.36 KB | Apr 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Why "Unfortunately"? Anyway, it does thrash the HDD | Apr 30 13:42 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Being fired twice sucks, having an egg salad sandwich doesn't http://ur1.ca/y3as | Apr 30 13:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] vapid. What a terrifically useful word these days. | Apr 30 13:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nepomuk is now enabled by default in KDE and it's a must-have component from the same developer who made #k3b (also a must-have app) | Apr 30 13:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Those who loved #KDE 3 and resist some changed in KDE 4.x should try #PCLinuxOS 2010 http://pclinuxos.com/?page_id=180 | Apr 30 13:53 | |
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| cubezzz | hmmm, I'll have to try that sometime | Apr 30 13:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Moet als de donder op zoek naar een tweedehands Geforce 2/4 GPU (AGP 4/8) met 128 MiB VRAM of zo. ATI Rage 128 Pro ultra trekt het niet :-( | Apr 30 13:55 | |
| *Ziomatrix (~Ziomatrix@ool-44c468e3.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 30 13:59 | |
| MinceR | Eruaran: you can use synaptic on kubuntu :> | Apr 30 14:01 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 30 14:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @KagroX for sure | Apr 30 14:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opera drops #Solaris support http://ur1.ca/xz5e good for #Firefox and other free/libre browsers | Apr 30 14:03 | |
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| schestowitz | http://choqok.gnufolks.org/ "@schestowitz That make sence, I thought that was the natural look of kde 4 in #pclinuxos, but they are using the 3.5 gui. ;-P silly me lol" | Apr 30 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Choqok - KDE Micro-Blogging Client .::. Size~: 10.91 KB | Apr 30 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I prefer the kde4 way, they did the right thing | Apr 30 14:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I did in 9.10 | Apr 30 14:06 |
| schestowitz | But this one has kpackagekit in good shape | Apr 30 14:06 |
| schestowitz | And extensive repos (LTS even) | Apr 30 14:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Gwenview is also fantastic. I even prefer it over Gthumb now. | Apr 30 14:06 | |
| Eruaran | MinceR: I know but its butt ugly on Kubuntu | Apr 30 14:06 |
| MinceR | it can be set up to be less ugly | Apr 30 14:07 |
| Eruaran | I don't think I've ever been so angry about Microsoft's behaviour as I am right now | Apr 30 14:07 |
| MinceR | (i can't remember the details though -- iirc i configured KDE as root too and set it to apply its settings to GTK+ apps) | Apr 30 14:07 |
| cubezzz | hmm, why is that Eruaran? | Apr 30 14:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #followfriday @zoobab ( #swpats guru), @glynmoody , @jospoortvliet (everything kde), @Dries , @AndroidGuys | Apr 30 14:09 | |
| Eruaran | I think their bullying of HTC into paying them for Android is the most disgraceful bit of IT racketeering I've ever seen. | Apr 30 14:09 |
| Eruaran | It's a shakedown. | Apr 30 14:10 |
| cubezzz | Xandros has that too | Apr 30 14:10 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 30 14:10 |
| Eruaran | But this is the first time they have taken aim directly at a "real player" if you know what I mean | Apr 30 14:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst re "@schestowitz Gwenview is also fantastic. I even prefer it over Gthumb now." > yes, I've used it since S.u.S.E 8.x days | Apr 30 14:10 | |
| Eruaran | I'm really hoping we'll hear a response from Google and others soon | Apr 30 14:10 |
| cubezzz | Bushnell paid Sanders 700 million because of patents | Apr 30 14:11 |
| cubezzz | the inventor of the video game pong | Apr 30 14:11 |
| cubezzz | even though his lawyer thought he could have won in court, Bushnell thought it was easier to settle | Apr 30 14:11 |
| Eruaran | I'm actually sympathetic to HTC, I see them as another victim | Apr 30 14:12 |
| Eruaran | But I think this has reached a turning point | Apr 30 14:12 |
| cubezzz | you have to have the $$$ to fight back | Apr 30 14:13 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: considering its HTC that pretty much built up the Windows Mobile market for smartphones into the dominating force it was today its pretty much backstabbing | Apr 30 14:13 |
| cubezzz | if a company thinks it's cheaper to settle out of court, then they will | Apr 30 14:13 |
| MinceR | all those "victims" could have simply refused | Apr 30 14:13 |
| MinceR | since there's no merit to m$'s claims | Apr 30 14:13 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: maybe this will convince HTC to dump Winmo support entirely | Apr 30 14:13 |
| Eruaran | Either Microsoft's patent racket breaks out all across the industry and Android is saddled with costs that make it more expensive than Windows Phone 7, or the members of the Open Handset Alliance push back. | Apr 30 14:13 |
| MinceR | and any settling in court allows for further companies to be targeted | Apr 30 14:14 |
| Eruaran | exactly | Apr 30 14:14 |
| Eruaran | Its time for a fight | Apr 30 14:14 |
| MinceR | so i have no sympathy for htc | Apr 30 14:14 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: it is true, for the price they will pay to M$ in a few years, they probably could have acquired Palm | Apr 30 14:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Even if he gives the machines away,as long as he can rent data (or apps) #ElStevo has a business model' http://bit.ly/bVVWkn via @glynmoody | Apr 30 14:14 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The real reason why Steve Jobs hates Flash - Charlie's Diary .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Apr 30 14:14 |
| Eruaran | I hope developers are watching | Apr 30 14:15 |
| MinceR | palm is dying anyway | Apr 30 14:15 |
| Eruaran | And deciding not to do develop anything for Winmo | Apr 30 14:15 |
| MinceR | they did misstep after misstep, the latest of which being spying on their users | Apr 30 14:15 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: it could die a slow, painful death like BREW | Apr 30 14:15 |
| Eruaran | brew? | Apr 30 14:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Unless they cn turn thmslves into entirely diff corp..#Apple is doomed to the same irrelevance as rest of PC industry' http://bit.ly/bVVWkn | Apr 30 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The real reason why Steve Jobs hates Flash - Charlie's Diary .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Apr 30 14:16 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: http://tinyurl.com/y978v7b once lauded to be an industry standard for smartphones it was relegated to locked devices on a few carriers and mostly has trashy mini-games and midi ringtones | Apr 30 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Binary Runtime Environment for Wireless - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.37 KB | Apr 30 14:17 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: in short Java ME and Symbian which were more open just dominated it | Apr 30 14:17 |
| Eruaran | Ziomatrix: ok | Apr 30 14:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] XMBC werkt fantastisch onder GNU/Linux, crasht onder WinXP. Krijg het niet aan de praat. | Apr 30 14:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Steve Jobs apes #Microsoft: 'not #Adobe's goal 2 help devs write iThing apps. It is their goal 2 help devs write crossplatform apps' HORROR! | Apr 30 14:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik bedoel XBMC Open Source Mediacenter. | Apr 30 14:18 | |
| Eruaran | I'm hoping developers will continue to flock to Android and leave Microsoft with a miserable app-less platform | Apr 30 14:18 |
| Eruaran | It is less than Microsoft deserves | Apr 30 14:18 |
| cubezzz | I'm hoping for an Amiga comeback :) | Apr 30 14:19 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: Haiku is already approaching R2 | Apr 30 14:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ga de XBMC Live CD maar downloaden voor Dell Optiplex GX240 (ouwe bak) | Apr 30 14:20 | |
| cubezzz | well at least sharp had the zaurus for handheld | Apr 30 14:21 |
| cubezzz | not sure what is good currently | Apr 30 14:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] pretty clear now that #ElStevo isn't about hardware lockin, his aim is One Store to Rule Them All. Totalitarianism sucks whoever tries it | Apr 30 14:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@H_FJ #Microsoft: "The future of the web is #HTML5" // but wait, why do we care what they think it is? #ie | Apr 30 14:21 | |
| cubezzz | yeah there's Haiku and AROS :) | Apr 30 14:22 |
| cubezzz | the fringe of the fringe | Apr 30 14:22 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: as if "Amiga" OS4 is any less so, I would wager that Morph OS probably has the most users out of the 3 Amiga like OSs | Apr 30 14:23 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: unless you count Haiku, which supposed to be a open source equivalent of BeOS | Apr 30 14:23 |
| MinceR | i hope MeeGo beats Android | Apr 30 14:23 |
| Eruaran | http://www.crn.com/software/224700283;jsessionid=V0J44BRJU5FIVQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVN | Apr 30 14:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Trains Linux Patent Crosshairs On Android - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 73.13 KB | Apr 30 14:24 |
| Eruaran | I hope all open platforms flourish in a competitive and highly creative marketplace of ideas | Apr 30 14:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq Teabaggers feel if #government wd just get out of the way, the #freemarket will clean up this #oil spill // it hasn't ALREADY?! #rwnj | Apr 30 14:24 | |
| cubezzz | Ziomatrix, I'm actually leaning towards Amiga 1200 at the moment for hardware | Apr 30 14:24 |
| Eruaran | I still love the A1200 | Apr 30 14:25 |
| cubezzz | the zaurus has been a bit tough to get into programming-wise | Apr 30 14:25 |
| cubezzz | you have one Eruaran? | Apr 30 14:25 |
| Eruaran | cubezzz: alas I do not | Apr 30 14:25 |
| cubezzz | you can you know :) | Apr 30 14:25 |
| Eruaran | Don't make me go looking on ebay | Apr 30 14:25 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: actually yea, I would say classic Amigas have the largest user following out of them stil | Apr 30 14:25 |
| cubezzz | no! http://amigakit.com | Apr 30 14:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: AmigaKit.com - the Amiga shop .::. Size~: 1.12 KB | Apr 30 14:26 |
| cubezzz | NOS even | Apr 30 14:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise joking, right? u don't see any problem with american citizens reqd to carry papers on person? (apart from the other issues) | Apr 30 14:26 | |
| cubezzz | Ziomatrix, I know this guy who has everything, tons of different machines | Apr 30 14:26 |
| cubezzz | and he says out of all of them he likes his Amiga the best | Apr 30 14:27 |
| Eruaran | stop tempting me | Apr 30 14:27 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: I have yet to see an Amiga computer in person, the closest I have come is a Commodore 64. | Apr 30 14:27 |
| cubezzz | Well, I'm ordering one :) | Apr 30 14:27 |
| Eruaran | Amiga OS 4.1 systems in stock now | Apr 30 14:27 |
| Eruaran | you are a bad man | Apr 30 14:27 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Apr 30 14:28 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: I wonder when the mythical X1000 is coming out? | Apr 30 14:28 |
| cubezzz | later this year they say | Apr 30 14:28 |
| *Eruaran puts fingers in ears | Apr 30 14:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise ppl can vote with their feet //a principle i act upon. but isn't crossing North voting with yr feet? US shd be flattered ;) | Apr 30 14:28 | |
| Eruaran | la la la | Apr 30 14:28 |
| cubezzz | dude, it's not that expensive to get the 1200 | Apr 30 14:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 30 14:29 |
| cubezzz | I'm just sayin' :) | Apr 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=4 | Apr 30 14:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: A new direction « Pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 4.93 KB | Apr 30 14:30 |
| cubezzz | I worked it out, to get CF drive, with ethernet, mouse, amigados and shipping is $278 | Apr 30 14:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@wesbenterprise why -exactly- are boatloads of cubans welcome and not desert crossing mexicans? | Apr 30 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | [14:13] <cubezzz> if a company thinks it's cheaper to settle out of court, then they will\ | Apr 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Any statement from the kernel [sic] fundation [sic] yet? | Apr 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz | IBM apologism for extortion/shakedown? | Apr 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz | @pookito re "@schestowitz: but they are using 3.5 even when it looks like plasma widgets, am I right?" > no, they use KDE4 tweaked to 3.5 | Apr 30 14:32 |
| Eruaran | those sam boards are a bit expensive arent they | Apr 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz | [14:13] <Ziomatrix> Eruaran: maybe this will convince HTC to dump Winmo support entirely | Apr 30 14:32 |
| schestowitz | The goal is opposite | Apr 30 14:33 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Apr 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz | HTC was all WinMob' some years back | Apr 30 14:33 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: they pretty much created Winmo's dominance in the smartphone market, at least in the US. | Apr 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is 'punishing' HTC for going astray. HTC wouldn't touch the ugly-turtle kins... won't make them either, nobody would buy except sexting pedos | Apr 30 14:33 |
| schestowitz | [14:15] <Eruaran> And deciding not to do develop anything for Winmo | Apr 30 14:34 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: lol.. interesting analogy | Apr 30 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Big devs left WinMob' last month | Apr 30 14:34 |
| cubezzz | for people like us, I always thought Zaurus was the way to go | Apr 30 14:34 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: good | Apr 30 14:34 |
| schestowitz | Adobe, Skype, Firefox/Mozilla | Apr 30 14:34 |
| MinceR | m$ is making sure winmob dies :> | Apr 30 14:34 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I hope Skyfire does too, even though certain Winmo users I know rely on it for basically everything in the web | Apr 30 14:34 |
| Eruaran | Google is an OIN member and OHA member | Apr 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's best chance now is taxing Apple and Google phones or telling people at cellphone lead to cancer that attaches itself to anything it touched, so you should proceed to the nearest 'OEM' and purchase a Vista7 (saddled to hardware) | Apr 30 14:35 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <MinceR> i hope MeeGo beats Android | Apr 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz | More hackable, for sure | Apr 30 14:36 |
| Eruaran | I'm hoping Microsofts latest move ends up being their Japanese Pearl Harbour blunder | Apr 30 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Maemo is like a full-blown desktop with ssh and everything | Apr 30 14:36 |
| Eruaran | (Pearl Harbour was a nasty attack but a strategic blunder of incalculable proportions) | Apr 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: didn't Google *start* OHA? | Apr 30 14:37 |
| schestowitz | When Ballmer said it was "just some words on paper" | Apr 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Add this to his laughter at the iPhone some years back | Apr 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Android/OHA is now fastest-growing | Apr 30 14:38 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: I don't know, I expect so, but the list of memebers is like a who's who of the mobile industry | Apr 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz | And SteveB has produced junk phones that only make headlines because if child pr0n allegations | Apr 30 14:38 |
| schestowitz | We should rename Kin to Zin | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But that's bad for Andre Zin | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | *rew | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | he passed away some months ago | Apr 30 14:39 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: don't forgot the hypePad that Apple tells every that it is everything but a phone | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Kin - the "b00b phone'' | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Kin - targets teenagers with b00bs | Apr 30 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Kin - "cause we can't make better phones, no we aim at a niche with b00bs" | Apr 30 14:40 |
| Ziomatrix | btw it has finally begun: http://tinyurl.com/27cp2ks | Apr 30 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Hey Sony, Don't Mess with Linux, Says PS3 Lawsuit - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.56 KB | Apr 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Yes, good publicity for Linux | Apr 30 14:40 |
| schestowitz | And what's-his-name created a hack to put Linux back on PS3 anyway | Apr 30 14:41 |
| Ziomatrix | I am uncertain if anything good will come out of it besides more work for lawyers and I suppose publicity but it is good it is finally happening | Apr 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Even on SLIM !! | Apr 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Sony got bad publicity from rootkits too | Apr 30 14:41 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: geohot has not released it yet | Apr 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz | It could use some lashing | Apr 30 14:41 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: he seems to be waiting for the PS3 firmware machine to run out of steam | Apr 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Sony is an 'entertainment' ('content', MAFIAA) company | Apr 30 14:42 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its too bad because like I said its hurting their hardware half | Apr 30 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yes, he said he had achieved it or is still working on it | Apr 30 14:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=7 "I also switched away from Drupal. The experiment did not go as well as I originally assumed and it’s basic maintenance was rather hair pulling." | Apr 30 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: "it's"->its | Apr 30 14:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@glynmoody Stross fumbled one point. #Apple doesn't need to ban virtual machines to allow cpu arch changes; vms are already portable. | Apr 30 14:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@glynmoody Charlie's message is spot on, tho: rules are because Steve's vision is totalitarian. We'll bury the loser next to #Gates. #apple | Apr 30 14:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #g20 Free speech zones! #HarperMustGo #HarperTorturesDemocracy #Toronto #cdnpoli #canada | Apr 30 15:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@karmacakedotca The fire alarm is going off and it's driving me bonkers..They could at least turn the volume down // LOL! | Apr 30 15:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Gillian Duffy was in fact a fucking bigot, anyone saying otherwise is a twat. http://elmyra.livejournal.com/498792.html | Apr 30 15:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@lexky1: @Shoq I gave up on u following me // booby prize! I just followed you. | Apr 30 15:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @lexky1 just because @Shoq wouldn't. | Apr 30 15:13 | |
| Ziomatrix | whats this "I am an Eastern European" bit about? | Apr 30 15:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/04/15-stunning-linux-desktop.html | Apr 30 15:24 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: where? | Apr 30 15:24 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: http://elmyra.livejournal.com/498792.html | Apr 30 15:25 |
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| Ziomatrix | oh I see what its about | Apr 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63P4VA20100426 | Apr 30 15:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @daemonfc Comcast 'wins' Consumerist worst-company tournament http://ur1.ca/y3vr | Apr 30 15:59 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: good launch so far, eh? | Apr 30 16:03 |
| jono | schestowitz I think so :) | Apr 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | All the reviews are good | Apr 30 16:04 |
| schestowitz | I saw one bitter one in BW... but that's just BW (Wintel) | Apr 30 16:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] no recommendations arrived by @twitter but Nirankar has been cited offline as great indian in inner #melbourne. and The Spice Kitchen | Apr 30 16:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise not disputing state's right to attempt policy-but we're complaining about THE POLICY! (+this seems to be federal territory) | Apr 30 16:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] By the way, I still remember you telling me you wanted to send me an e-mail, but you never really did. @Bashar_Kokash | Apr 30 16:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all, how are things with you today? Me? Hangover from the Ubuntu Release Party last night, was fun! Onto the first call... | Apr 30 16:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Just remember to remove mono-runtime for them. "sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime" @yugi | Apr 30 16:17 | |
| omar__ | Guys, do you see anything wrong with follower counter on twitter? | Apr 30 16:20 |
| *omar__ is now known as Omar87 | Apr 30 16:21 | |
| Omar87 | followers* | Apr 30 16:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Zuckerberg's disdain for your #facebook privacy is sure to bite him back in the private parts | Apr 30 16:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@undispatch "If we can ban cluster bombs, we can ban rape as a weapon" http://bit.ly/aXjtz5 // but US/Israel/UK won't sign cluster bomb ban | Apr 30 16:25 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Rape as a Weapon of War | UN Dispatch .::. Size~: 39.51 KB | Apr 30 16:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise aren't human rights generally a federal thing? if not, why not? | Apr 30 16:31 | |
| Eruaran | unbelievable | Apr 30 16:33 |
| Eruaran | I can't install Windows on this system | Apr 30 16:33 |
| Eruaran | (its for work) | Apr 30 16:33 |
| Eruaran | Dell truly rhymes with hell | Apr 30 16:34 |
| cubezzz | bah | Apr 30 16:34 |
| Eruaran | it has a recovery partition | Apr 30 16:34 |
| cubezzz | put Linux on there then :) | Apr 30 16:34 |
| Eruaran | but you cant use it | Apr 30 16:34 |
| cubezzz | why torture yourself? | Apr 30 16:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise great constitutional scholars like Sarah Palin insist that the #AZ law is really meant to *remind* the Feds to "enforce"... | Apr 30 16:35 | |
| Eruaran | Why? Becuase you need to actually be able to boot Windows to use their recovery software | Apr 30 16:35 |
| Eruaran | What kind of an idiot makes a recovery partition that depends on the regular Windows partition being in good working order? | Apr 30 16:35 |
| Eruaran | So... try a normal install | Apr 30 16:36 |
| Eruaran | No, wont work, why? | Apr 30 16:36 |
| Eruaran | Because the install halts and Windows asks for a driver for the CD/DVD | Apr 30 16:36 |
| cubezzz | man, I'm glad I don't use doze :) | Apr 30 16:36 |
| Eruaran | you know... the one that its already using... | Apr 30 16:36 |
| cubezzz | even for work I don't | Apr 30 16:36 |
| Eruaran | Cannot go any further | Apr 30 16:36 |
| Eruaran | the customer is stuffed | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Eruaran | complete dead end | Apr 30 16:37 |
| cubezzz | windows sucks, it really does | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Eruaran | I'm stuck | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Eruaran | this is for a customer | Apr 30 16:37 |
| cubezzz | couldn't you put windows 2000 on there just to get by? | Apr 30 16:38 |
| cubezzz | or something | Apr 30 16:38 |
| cubezzz | then run your recovery software | Apr 30 16:38 |
| Eruaran | I still have to restore it to vista | Apr 30 16:38 |
| cubezzz | blargh | Apr 30 16:38 |
| Eruaran | you have to have the recovery software thats normally installed as well | Apr 30 16:39 |
| cubezzz | what a turd :) | Apr 30 16:39 |
| Eruaran | this is the second Dell I've had this week | Apr 30 16:39 |
| Eruaran | both have been an absolute nightmare | Apr 30 16:40 |
| Eruaran | And of course Dell isn't going to compensate me for my time | Apr 30 16:40 |
| cubezzz | don't most modern installs have a recovery partition? | Apr 30 16:40 |
| cubezzz | something in the bios? | Apr 30 16:40 |
| Eruaran | It is so bad that I'm considering telling people that I wont service Dell systems | Apr 30 16:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @SarahPalinUSA: Having worked/lived thru #Exxon spill // did you suddenly recover those memories by hypnosis, dear? #bp #oil #energy #gop | Apr 30 16:40 | |
| Eruaran | I've looked | Apr 30 16:40 |
| Eruaran | you cant boot it | Apr 30 16:41 |
| Eruaran | Dell's 24 hour help line is engaged of course | Apr 30 16:41 |
| cubezzz | I've never had that much trouble with Dell | Apr 30 16:42 |
| cubezzz | but a lot of the time I'm putting Linux on them | Apr 30 16:42 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 30 16:43 |
| Eruaran | the last Dell I had, the entire time I could run Ubuntu off a live cd without problems | Apr 30 16:43 |
| cubezzz | why the heck would anyone want Visa? | Apr 30 16:44 |
| cubezzz | er, vista :) | Apr 30 16:44 |
| Eruaran | Its not my choice | Apr 30 16:45 |
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| cubezzz | everyone's always complaining... I guess I really am fortunate | Apr 30 16:46 |
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| cubezzz | I'm using Linux about 95% of the time, even at work | Apr 30 16:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KagroX I can't believe the oil spill already has a book deal. // "Flowing Rogue"? | Apr 30 16:47 | |
| Eruaran | This is a Dell notebook from 2008... you'd think Windows could use a dvd drive from 2008 without problems... | Apr 30 16:49 |
| Eruaran | Windows 7 works | Apr 30 16:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The new widget handling in KDE is rather astrounding. | Apr 30 16:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@attackerman Flowers now asking about #Khadr's knowledge of Maher Arar. // WHaaaaat? That's like asking Frodo if he knows Luke Skywalker | Apr 30 16:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KagroX In fairness, though, who knew #oil was liquid? // NoRWNJ could have predicted this! | Apr 30 17:00 | |
| Eruaran | screw it. Windows 7 is getting installed | Apr 30 17:01 |
| Eruaran | I'd prefer Ubuntu but this is a Windows user who would probably freak | Apr 30 17:01 |
| Eruaran | I'll just change the service | Apr 30 17:01 |
| Eruaran | sigh... I hate my job sometimes | Apr 30 17:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Operating Lucid: Bring Ubuntu to the London skyline - http://is.gd/bOFIg #ubuntu | Apr 30 17:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, check out the new Shot Of Jaq about Severed Fifth - http://is.gd/bOFKS #shotofjaq #severedfifth | Apr 30 17:04 | |
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| schestowitz | Our wayne takes on geist in the comments: http://madhatter.ca/2010/04/27/why-is-michael-geist-in-favour-of-digital-rights-managementtechnical-protection-measures/ | Apr 30 17:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Black bird dying in the dead of night #bpsongs cc @kellb0 | Apr 30 17:14 | |
| Eruaran | Saved myself a whole lotta work... | Apr 30 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Installed some gnus? | Apr 30 17:28 |
| Eruaran | I wish | Apr 30 17:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Did #KDE 4 implement the 'snap' feature before #Vista7? Because #Vista7 did copy a lot from KDE developers | Apr 30 17:28 | |
| Eruaran | That comes later today | Apr 30 17:29 |
| Eruaran | fixing up a guys dual boot ubuntu/windows | Apr 30 17:29 |
| Eruaran | he installed ubuntu 10.04 with the grub bug | Apr 30 17:29 |
| Eruaran | he didn't know how to fix it so he could boot windows | Apr 30 17:29 |
| Eruaran | and he panicked and did silly things with his hard drives | Apr 30 17:29 |
| Eruaran | I'll fix it up for him :p | Apr 30 17:30 |
| Eruaran | He always screws his system up | Apr 30 17:32 |
| Eruaran | he managed to hose his system with Fedora one day | Apr 30 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Same with Windows | Apr 30 17:33 |
| schestowitz | People mess up Windows all the time | Apr 30 17:33 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 30 17:33 |
| schestowitz | They call family/neighbour/'engineer' | Apr 30 17:33 |
| Eruaran | I have found that there's always someone who can screw up a system no matter what OS they're using | Apr 30 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Availability of 'helpdesk' is why we need even more Ubuntu users.... I don't mind Ubuntu | Apr 30 17:34 |
| schestowitz | See how Apple grew with network effect | Apr 30 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is desperately trying to suffocate Linux cause it's well past criticial mass | Apr 30 17:34 |
| schestowitz | KDE4 works like a charm | Apr 30 17:34 |
| Eruaran | I'm actively promoting lucid | Apr 30 17:34 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 30 17:35 |
| Eruaran | I might see if I can get Synaptic lookin pretty on kde4 | Apr 30 17:35 |
| Eruaran | or the ubuntu software centre... I assume its in the repositories | Apr 30 17:36 |
| *Eruaran looks | Apr 30 17:36 | |
| Eruaran | With Kubuntu its not KDE that I worry about when It comes to making Joe Average happy, its package management... I'm ok with KPackageKit myself but I can't honestly recommend it to customers who will be intimidated and confused by the list of packages they see when they search for "vlc" | Apr 30 17:38 |
| Ender2070 | i like kpackagekit | Apr 30 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Rich Johnson nixternal | Apr 30 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Apr 30 17:45 | |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz rock on, that is good to hear. you get any funkyness, don't hesitate getting in touch. see what we can figure out | Apr 30 17:45 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/nixternal/status/13116456391 | Apr 30 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | Eruaran: no need for Synaptic | Apr 30 17:46 |
| schestowitz | kpackagekit is all bushed up | Apr 30 17:46 |
| Eruaran | in lucid? | Apr 30 17:46 |
| schestowitz | never mind, you both beat me to it, I see (as I read on) | Apr 30 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: yes | Apr 30 17:47 |
| Ender2070 | i've already replaced kubuntu 10.04 | Apr 30 17:50 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 30 17:50 |
| schestowitz | fedora? | Apr 30 17:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] awesome! RT @zigzackly: instead of 'RT (ed)' how about 'ET' for Edited Tweet? | Apr 30 17:56 | |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Apr 30 18:01 |
| Ender2070 | Fedora 13 | Apr 30 18:02 |
| Ender2070 | I kind of wish it had gcc 4.5 though | Apr 30 18:03 |
| Ender2070 | it really boosted the speed of opensuse | Apr 30 18:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Tim Minchin: The Pope Song http://is.gd/bOJXy nsfw for heartfelt sweariness | Apr 30 18:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] How to deal with people playing music on their phones on public transport http://b3ta.com/questions/nemesis/post711341 | Apr 30 18:10 | |
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| schestowitz | > Re: Nick Farrell very lukewarm on Ubuntu | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > Check out the adverts on the site .. | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > "Ubuntu .. comes with social notworking integration because, unlike | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > other Linux users, Ubuntu users often have friends" | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1603562/canonical-releases-ubuntu-linux-04-lts | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1433268/ssds-linux-dropping-fashion | Apr 30 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1603069/htc-pays-microsoft-linux-protection-racket | Apr 30 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Htc pays off microsoft in linux protection racket - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 65.21 KB | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566494/analyst-claims-apple-moving-microsoft | Apr 30 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Analyst claims apple is moving towards microsoft - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 75.16 KB | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | seigo says "@schestowitz no, snap appeared in win7 first; demos of it on youtube set the tieline. not all the good ideas start here, just many ;)" | Apr 30 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 imitation... not good | Apr 30 18:53 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30596538 "@schestowitz Looks like Windows 7 came first → http://2tu.us/220c (look for 'snap')" | Apr 30 18:53 |
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| Ender2070 | haha u guys have an old kde | Apr 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30597702 "@schestowitz I think that feature came with !kde 4.4, and it will be extended for 4.5" | Apr 30 18:54 |
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| Ender2070 | <-- KDE 4.4.3 | Apr 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I /think/ Win7's snap was before KDE's (but I don't remember for sure, and haven't looked at the source commits to see)" http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30597754 | Apr 30 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Can you thinf of prior art? | Apr 30 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I can think of similar things of allocation | Apr 30 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Where you are shown prefers positions | Apr 30 18:55 |
| cubezzz | of course I have old KDE | Apr 30 18:55 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz It would be cool if !KDE gave itself more publicity. I always find about neat features thru unofficial channels." http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30601629 | Apr 30 18:55 |
| cubezzz | that's what I prefer | Apr 30 18:55 |
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| cubezzz | compiled it myself too :) | Apr 30 18:56 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 30 18:56 |
| schestowitz | "@losinggeneration @tioduke @gallaecio @aseigo fluid layout has loads of prior art, Microsoft just did a minor variation; Apple's Dock too" | Apr 30 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to find fit to grid demos | Apr 30 19:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Screw you #Google!! Either you translate the word מחמד to its TRUE meaning or you've just proven how filthy you are!! >< | Apr 30 19:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "As an affront to God, it is successful, but as a sandwich, it falls flat." I am disappoint. http://is.gd/bOQ38 | Apr 30 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Fastfood Meals for Failures | Cracked.com .::. Size~: 55.55 KB | Apr 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Can anybody try http://www.archive.org/download/lsd-lfnw2010/selinux-pt1.ogv ? | Apr 30 19:43 |
| schestowitz | In Firefox I can't get it to stream | Apr 30 19:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I have not heard this one in a long while, Orbital "satan" | Apr 30 19:44 | |
| Aondo | schestowitz only 7kB? | Apr 30 19:45 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz That is true. In many ways it's similar to things like tiling WM's (but with just two windows tiled vertically) http://identi.ca/conversation/30514256#notice-30606597 fit/snap to grid | Apr 30 19:47 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: did florian mail you too? | Apr 30 20:02 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://hugoroy.eu/jobs-os.php | Apr 30 20:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @cyounes احنا مالنا ومال فلسطين؟ احنا مالنا ومال الأقصى؟ هذا ما ينقص حكامنا أن يجهروا ب | Apr 30 20:45 | |
| Ender2070_ | lol | Apr 30 20:49 |
| Ender2070_ | i think html5 renders flash soundboards obsolete too | Apr 30 20:59 |
| Ender2070_ | http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_audio.asp | Apr 30 21:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] SIA special programme about biodiversity http://is.gd/bOVuc | Apr 30 21:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool is Being Assembled to Go After #Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs Now.” http://ur1.ca/y5kt #apple #ogg | Apr 30 21:10 | |
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| Ender2070_ | schestowitz - did you see that lefty vid i linked? | Apr 30 21:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @slashdot: Avatar Blu-Ray DRM Issues http://bit.ly/9Uveve | Apr 30 21:38 | |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070_: I haven't | Apr 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz | What did he do this time? | Apr 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Videos marketing those sex toys he vends/ | Apr 30 21:40 |
| schestowitz | ? | Apr 30 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you're going to like what I just dented | Apr 30 21:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺@schestowitz: Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool Being Assembled to Go After #Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs” http://ur1.ca/y5kt #apple #ogg | Apr 30 21:42 | |
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| *schestowitz waits impatiently | Apr 30 21:44 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steve Jobs is officially going after Theora now http://ur1.ca/y5pe !gnu !linux !freesoftware | Apr 30 21:47 | |
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| Ender2070_ | schestowitz - no but he looked like a fool, was fighting with the google rep and generally made me laugh | Apr 30 21:49 |
| Ender2070_ | http://videos.linuxfoundation.org/video/1015 | Apr 30 21:49 |
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| Ender2070_ | funny cause lefty tells the google rep and no carrier will allow android to have its users install *any* app on it | Apr 30 21:50 |
| Ender2070_ | that no carrier* | Apr 30 21:50 |
| Aondo | ah almost 1h video about linux mobile, interesting :D | Apr 30 21:50 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah its very interesting | Apr 30 21:52 |
| Ender2070_ | its a little old too so any predictions make me laugh | Apr 30 21:52 |
| Aondo | hehe | Apr 30 21:52 |
| Aondo | got this feeling i've seen it before.. hehe | Apr 30 21:53 |
| Aondo | but not sure, so gonna keep watching :P | Apr 30 21:53 |
| Ender2070_ | you might have its from 2008 | Apr 30 21:53 |
| Ender2070_ | it was just published online recently though | Apr 30 21:53 |
| Aondo | hmm whatls up with limo this days btw | Apr 30 21:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Oh, Arizona! If one pants-shittingly racist law isn't enough ... Teachers with "accents" (i.e. Hispanic) to be fired http://is.gd/bOYWO | Apr 30 21:56 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: it dented. | Apr 30 21:56 |
| Ender2070_ | Aondo - they have one phone ;) | Apr 30 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Yes, just followed it | Apr 30 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Florian mailed me about it | Apr 30 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you saw my post | Apr 30 21:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Apr 30 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Aondo: DOA | Apr 30 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Very few new phones | Apr 30 21:58 |
| schestowitz | THe Japanese companies are creating a new consortium now | Apr 30 21:58 |
| schestowitz | They used to be limos big backers | Apr 30 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: he's a ProprieTard | Apr 30 21:59 |
| Ender2070_ | lol in the video again he says access leverages the open source community to save themselves money and time | Apr 30 22:01 |
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| Ender2070_ | http://www.pwnage.ca/lefty-gets-mad-at-google-android.flac | Apr 30 22:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Keeping #Mono Out of #Ubuntu 10.04 and #Android ; #HTC Sued Again for Software Patents http://ur1.ca/y5u8 #swpats | Apr 30 22:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] YouGov busted rigging polls, try to sue blogger's site out of existence http://is.gd/bP0h4 #ge2010 | Apr 30 22:16 | |
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| Ender2070_ | theres a .ogg version too | Apr 30 22:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Call Out #Windows http://ur1.ca/y5z1 new set of pages created to raise awareness of specificity of security issues. | Apr 30 22:40 | |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070_: give him another 2 years and he'll look like an older and skinnier version of SteveB :-D | Apr 30 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/razvansandu/statuses/13142338863 "RT @descendent87 @schestowitz: #kubuntu lucid is pretty nice, also #opensuse 11.3 alpha 6 is out today" | Apr 30 22:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @mfitz: Really enjoying @jonobacon's "Art of Community" - http://is.gd/bOYtd - Feeling inspired by Ubuntu again w/ the release of Lucid! | Apr 30 23:01 | |
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| Ender2070_ | lol | Apr 30 23:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Out-of-Cycle Patches for #Vista7 (Not Stable), #Security Issues Noted by #Google http://ur1.ca/y670 | Apr 30 23:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Portuguese video clubs want to sue the Portuguese state for innaction against piracy. http://ff.im/jCsL5 Can I sue for lobby-caving? | Apr 30 23:57 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:29] <schestowitz> hello. I have just upgraded successfully to kubuntu 10.04 but was asked to report a bug | Apr 30 08:24 |
| schestowitz | [13:30] <schestowitz> my /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log contain the details | Apr 30 08:24 |
| schestowitz | [13:31] <schestowitz> Short story: a "fatal error" reported at end of upgrade, despite it seemingly working just fine. Would it be helpful to file the bug with the logs as attachments in the Web site? There are probably more high priority matters, but in case others who upgrade receive the same alarming error, this might be worth a look. | Apr 30 08:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Using Google latitude on the way to #oggcamp alan@popey.com | Apr 30 08:25 | |
| schestowitz | "With the recent release of Kubuntu 10.04 KDE 4.4.2 will reach the masses. Unfortunately in KDE 4.4.2, Nepomuk the KDE Desktop Search tool is enabled by default." http://www.freetechie.com/blog/disable-nepomuk-desktop-search-on-kde-4-4-2-kubuntu-lucid-10-04/ | Apr 30 08:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Disable Nepomuk (Desktop Search) on KDE 4.4.2 Kubuntu Lucid 10.04 | Free Techie Blog .::. Size~: 82.36 KB | Apr 30 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Why "Unfortunately"? Anyway, it does thrash the HDD | Apr 30 08:27 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Being fired twice sucks, having an egg salad sandwich doesn't http://ur1.ca/y3as | Apr 30 08:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] vapid. What a terrifically useful word these days. | Apr 30 08:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nepomuk is now enabled by default in KDE and it's a must-have component from the same developer who made #k3b (also a must-have app) | Apr 30 08:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Those who loved #KDE 3 and resist some changed in KDE 4.x should try #PCLinuxOS 2010 http://pclinuxos.com/?page_id=180 | Apr 30 08:38 | |
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| cubezzz | hmmm, I'll have to try that sometime | Apr 30 08:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Moet als de donder op zoek naar een tweedehands Geforce 2/4 GPU (AGP 4/8) met 128 MiB VRAM of zo. ATI Rage 128 Pro ultra trekt het niet :-( | Apr 30 08:40 | |
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| MinceR | Eruaran: you can use synaptic on kubuntu :> | Apr 30 08:46 |
| MinceR | i do | Apr 30 08:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @KagroX for sure | Apr 30 08:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opera drops #Solaris support http://ur1.ca/xz5e good for #Firefox and other free/libre browsers | Apr 30 08:48 | |
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| schestowitz | http://choqok.gnufolks.org/ "@schestowitz That make sence, I thought that was the natural look of kde 4 in #pclinuxos, but they are using the 3.5 gui. ;-P silly me lol" | Apr 30 08:49 |
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| schestowitz | I prefer the kde4 way, they did the right thing | Apr 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I did in 9.10 | Apr 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | But this one has kpackagekit in good shape | Apr 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | And extensive repos (LTS even) | Apr 30 08:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Gwenview is also fantastic. I even prefer it over Gthumb now. | Apr 30 08:51 | |
| Eruaran | MinceR: I know but its butt ugly on Kubuntu | Apr 30 08:51 |
| MinceR | it can be set up to be less ugly | Apr 30 08:51 |
| Eruaran | I don't think I've ever been so angry about Microsoft's behaviour as I am right now | Apr 30 08:52 |
| MinceR | (i can't remember the details though -- iirc i configured KDE as root too and set it to apply its settings to GTK+ apps) | Apr 30 08:52 |
| cubezzz | hmm, why is that Eruaran? | Apr 30 08:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #followfriday @zoobab ( #swpats guru), @glynmoody , @jospoortvliet (everything kde), @Dries , @AndroidGuys | Apr 30 08:54 | |
| Eruaran | I think their bullying of HTC into paying them for Android is the most disgraceful bit of IT racketeering I've ever seen. | Apr 30 08:54 |
| Eruaran | It's a shakedown. | Apr 30 08:54 |
| cubezzz | Xandros has that too | Apr 30 08:54 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 30 08:55 |
| Eruaran | But this is the first time they have taken aim directly at a "real player" if you know what I mean | Apr 30 08:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst re "@schestowitz Gwenview is also fantastic. I even prefer it over Gthumb now." > yes, I've used it since S.u.S.E 8.x days | Apr 30 08:55 | |
| Eruaran | I'm really hoping we'll hear a response from Google and others soon | Apr 30 08:55 |
| cubezzz | Bushnell paid Sanders 700 million because of patents | Apr 30 08:55 |
| cubezzz | the inventor of the video game pong | Apr 30 08:56 |
| cubezzz | even though his lawyer thought he could have won in court, Bushnell thought it was easier to settle | Apr 30 08:56 |
| Eruaran | I'm actually sympathetic to HTC, I see them as another victim | Apr 30 08:57 |
| Eruaran | But I think this has reached a turning point | Apr 30 08:57 |
| cubezzz | you have to have the $$$ to fight back | Apr 30 08:57 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: considering its HTC that pretty much built up the Windows Mobile market for smartphones into the dominating force it was today its pretty much backstabbing | Apr 30 08:58 |
| cubezzz | if a company thinks it's cheaper to settle out of court, then they will | Apr 30 08:58 |
| MinceR | all those "victims" could have simply refused | Apr 30 08:58 |
| MinceR | since there's no merit to m$'s claims | Apr 30 08:58 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: maybe this will convince HTC to dump Winmo support entirely | Apr 30 08:58 |
| Eruaran | Either Microsoft's patent racket breaks out all across the industry and Android is saddled with costs that make it more expensive than Windows Phone 7, or the members of the Open Handset Alliance push back. | Apr 30 08:58 |
| MinceR | and any settling in court allows for further companies to be targeted | Apr 30 08:58 |
| Eruaran | exactly | Apr 30 08:59 |
| Eruaran | Its time for a fight | Apr 30 08:59 |
| MinceR | so i have no sympathy for htc | Apr 30 08:59 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: it is true, for the price they will pay to M$ in a few years, they probably could have acquired Palm | Apr 30 08:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Even if he gives the machines away,as long as he can rent data (or apps) #ElStevo has a business model' http://bit.ly/bVVWkn via @glynmoody | Apr 30 08:59 | |
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| Eruaran | I hope developers are watching | Apr 30 08:59 |
| MinceR | palm is dying anyway | Apr 30 08:59 |
| Eruaran | And deciding not to do develop anything for Winmo | Apr 30 09:00 |
| MinceR | they did misstep after misstep, the latest of which being spying on their users | Apr 30 09:00 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: it could die a slow, painful death like BREW | Apr 30 09:00 |
| Eruaran | brew? | Apr 30 09:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Unless they cn turn thmslves into entirely diff corp..#Apple is doomed to the same irrelevance as rest of PC industry' http://bit.ly/bVVWkn | Apr 30 09:01 | |
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| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: http://tinyurl.com/y978v7b once lauded to be an industry standard for smartphones it was relegated to locked devices on a few carriers and mostly has trashy mini-games and midi ringtones | Apr 30 09:01 |
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| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: in short Java ME and Symbian which were more open just dominated it | Apr 30 09:02 |
| Eruaran | Ziomatrix: ok | Apr 30 09:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] XMBC werkt fantastisch onder GNU/Linux, crasht onder WinXP. Krijg het niet aan de praat. | Apr 30 09:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Steve Jobs apes #Microsoft: 'not #Adobe's goal 2 help devs write iThing apps. It is their goal 2 help devs write crossplatform apps' HORROR! | Apr 30 09:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik bedoel XBMC Open Source Mediacenter. | Apr 30 09:03 | |
| Eruaran | I'm hoping developers will continue to flock to Android and leave Microsoft with a miserable app-less platform | Apr 30 09:03 |
| Eruaran | It is less than Microsoft deserves | Apr 30 09:03 |
| cubezzz | I'm hoping for an Amiga comeback :) | Apr 30 09:04 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: Haiku is already approaching R2 | Apr 30 09:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ga de XBMC Live CD maar downloaden voor Dell Optiplex GX240 (ouwe bak) | Apr 30 09:05 | |
| cubezzz | well at least sharp had the zaurus for handheld | Apr 30 09:05 |
| cubezzz | not sure what is good currently | Apr 30 09:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] pretty clear now that #ElStevo isn't about hardware lockin, his aim is One Store to Rule Them All. Totalitarianism sucks whoever tries it | Apr 30 09:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@H_FJ #Microsoft: "The future of the web is #HTML5" // but wait, why do we care what they think it is? #ie | Apr 30 09:06 | |
| cubezzz | yeah there's Haiku and AROS :) | Apr 30 09:06 |
| cubezzz | the fringe of the fringe | Apr 30 09:06 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: as if "Amiga" OS4 is any less so, I would wager that Morph OS probably has the most users out of the 3 Amiga like OSs | Apr 30 09:07 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: unless you count Haiku, which supposed to be a open source equivalent of BeOS | Apr 30 09:08 |
| MinceR | i hope MeeGo beats Android | Apr 30 09:08 |
| Eruaran | http://www.crn.com/software/224700283;jsessionid=V0J44BRJU5FIVQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVN | Apr 30 09:08 |
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| Eruaran | I hope all open platforms flourish in a competitive and highly creative marketplace of ideas | Apr 30 09:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq Teabaggers feel if #government wd just get out of the way, the #freemarket will clean up this #oil spill // it hasn't ALREADY?! #rwnj | Apr 30 09:09 | |
| cubezzz | Ziomatrix, I'm actually leaning towards Amiga 1200 at the moment for hardware | Apr 30 09:09 |
| Eruaran | I still love the A1200 | Apr 30 09:09 |
| cubezzz | the zaurus has been a bit tough to get into programming-wise | Apr 30 09:09 |
| cubezzz | you have one Eruaran? | Apr 30 09:09 |
| Eruaran | cubezzz: alas I do not | Apr 30 09:10 |
| cubezzz | you can you know :) | Apr 30 09:10 |
| Eruaran | Don't make me go looking on ebay | Apr 30 09:10 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: actually yea, I would say classic Amigas have the largest user following out of them stil | Apr 30 09:10 |
| cubezzz | no! http://amigakit.com | Apr 30 09:10 |
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| cubezzz | NOS even | Apr 30 09:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise joking, right? u don't see any problem with american citizens reqd to carry papers on person? (apart from the other issues) | Apr 30 09:11 | |
| cubezzz | Ziomatrix, I know this guy who has everything, tons of different machines | Apr 30 09:11 |
| cubezzz | and he says out of all of them he likes his Amiga the best | Apr 30 09:11 |
| Eruaran | stop tempting me | Apr 30 09:11 |
| Ziomatrix | cubezzz: I have yet to see an Amiga computer in person, the closest I have come is a Commodore 64. | Apr 30 09:11 |
| cubezzz | Well, I'm ordering one :) | Apr 30 09:12 |
| Eruaran | Amiga OS 4.1 systems in stock now | Apr 30 09:12 |
| Eruaran | you are a bad man | Apr 30 09:12 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Apr 30 09:12 |
| Ziomatrix | Eruaran: I wonder when the mythical X1000 is coming out? | Apr 30 09:13 |
| cubezzz | later this year they say | Apr 30 09:13 |
| *Eruaran puts fingers in ears | Apr 30 09:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise ppl can vote with their feet //a principle i act upon. but isn't crossing North voting with yr feet? US shd be flattered ;) | Apr 30 09:13 | |
| Eruaran | la la la | Apr 30 09:13 |
| cubezzz | dude, it's not that expensive to get the 1200 | Apr 30 09:13 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 30 09:13 |
| cubezzz | I'm just sayin' :) | Apr 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=4 | Apr 30 09:15 |
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| cubezzz | I worked it out, to get CF drive, with ethernet, mouse, amigados and shipping is $278 | Apr 30 09:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@wesbenterprise why -exactly- are boatloads of cubans welcome and not desert crossing mexicans? | Apr 30 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | [14:13] <cubezzz> if a company thinks it's cheaper to settle out of court, then they will\ | Apr 30 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Any statement from the kernel [sic] fundation [sic] yet? | Apr 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | IBM apologism for extortion/shakedown? | Apr 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | @pookito re "@schestowitz: but they are using 3.5 even when it looks like plasma widgets, am I right?" > no, they use KDE4 tweaked to 3.5 | Apr 30 09:17 |
| Eruaran | those sam boards are a bit expensive arent they | Apr 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | [14:13] <Ziomatrix> Eruaran: maybe this will convince HTC to dump Winmo support entirely | Apr 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | The goal is opposite | Apr 30 09:17 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Apr 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | HTC was all WinMob' some years back | Apr 30 09:17 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: they pretty much created Winmo's dominance in the smartphone market, at least in the US. | Apr 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is 'punishing' HTC for going astray. HTC wouldn't touch the ugly-turtle kins... won't make them either, nobody would buy except sexting pedos | Apr 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | [14:15] <Eruaran> And deciding not to do develop anything for Winmo | Apr 30 09:18 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: lol.. interesting analogy | Apr 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Big devs left WinMob' last month | Apr 30 09:18 |
| cubezzz | for people like us, I always thought Zaurus was the way to go | Apr 30 09:18 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: good | Apr 30 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Adobe, Skype, Firefox/Mozilla | Apr 30 09:19 |
| MinceR | m$ is making sure winmob dies :> | Apr 30 09:19 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I hope Skyfire does too, even though certain Winmo users I know rely on it for basically everything in the web | Apr 30 09:19 |
| Eruaran | Google is an OIN member and OHA member | Apr 30 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's best chance now is taxing Apple and Google phones or telling people at cellphone lead to cancer that attaches itself to anything it touched, so you should proceed to the nearest 'OEM' and purchase a Vista7 (saddled to hardware) | Apr 30 09:20 |
| schestowitz | [14:23] <MinceR> i hope MeeGo beats Android | Apr 30 09:20 |
| schestowitz | More hackable, for sure | Apr 30 09:20 |
| Eruaran | I'm hoping Microsofts latest move ends up being their Japanese Pearl Harbour blunder | Apr 30 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Maemo is like a full-blown desktop with ssh and everything | Apr 30 09:21 |
| Eruaran | (Pearl Harbour was a nasty attack but a strategic blunder of incalculable proportions) | Apr 30 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: didn't Google *start* OHA? | Apr 30 09:22 |
| schestowitz | When Ballmer said it was "just some words on paper" | Apr 30 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Add this to his laughter at the iPhone some years back | Apr 30 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Android/OHA is now fastest-growing | Apr 30 09:23 |
| Eruaran | schestowitz: I don't know, I expect so, but the list of memebers is like a who's who of the mobile industry | Apr 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | And SteveB has produced junk phones that only make headlines because if child pr0n allegations | Apr 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | We should rename Kin to Zin | Apr 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | But that's bad for Andre Zin | Apr 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | *rew | Apr 30 09:24 |
| schestowitz | he passed away some months ago | Apr 30 09:24 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: don't forgot the hypePad that Apple tells every that it is everything but a phone | Apr 30 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Kin - the "b00b phone'' | Apr 30 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Kin - targets teenagers with b00bs | Apr 30 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Kin - "cause we can't make better phones, no we aim at a niche with b00bs" | Apr 30 09:24 |
| Ziomatrix | btw it has finally begun: http://tinyurl.com/27cp2ks | Apr 30 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Hey Sony, Don't Mess with Linux, Says PS3 Lawsuit - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.56 KB | Apr 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Yes, good publicity for Linux | Apr 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz | And what's-his-name created a hack to put Linux back on PS3 anyway | Apr 30 09:25 |
| Ziomatrix | I am uncertain if anything good will come out of it besides more work for lawyers and I suppose publicity but it is good it is finally happening | Apr 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Even on SLIM !! | Apr 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Sony got bad publicity from rootkits too | Apr 30 09:26 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: geohot has not released it yet | Apr 30 09:26 |
| schestowitz | It could use some lashing | Apr 30 09:26 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: he seems to be waiting for the PS3 firmware machine to run out of steam | Apr 30 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Sony is an 'entertainment' ('content', MAFIAA) company | Apr 30 09:26 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its too bad because like I said its hurting their hardware half | Apr 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yes, he said he had achieved it or is still working on it | Apr 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=7 "I also switched away from Drupal. The experiment did not go as well as I originally assumed and it’s basic maintenance was rather hair pulling." | Apr 30 09:27 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: "it's"->its | Apr 30 09:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@glynmoody Stross fumbled one point. #Apple doesn't need to ban virtual machines to allow cpu arch changes; vms are already portable. | Apr 30 09:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@glynmoody Charlie's message is spot on, tho: rules are because Steve's vision is totalitarian. We'll bury the loser next to #Gates. #apple | Apr 30 09:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #g20 Free speech zones! #HarperMustGo #HarperTorturesDemocracy #Toronto #cdnpoli #canada | Apr 30 09:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@karmacakedotca The fire alarm is going off and it's driving me bonkers..They could at least turn the volume down // LOL! | Apr 30 09:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Gillian Duffy was in fact a fucking bigot, anyone saying otherwise is a twat. http://elmyra.livejournal.com/498792.html | Apr 30 09:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@lexky1: @Shoq I gave up on u following me // booby prize! I just followed you. | Apr 30 09:57 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: elmyra: I am an Eastern European .::. Size~: 87.64 KB | Apr 30 09:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @lexky1 just because @Shoq wouldn't. | Apr 30 09:58 | |
| Ziomatrix | whats this "I am an Eastern European" bit about? | Apr 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/04/15-stunning-linux-desktop.html | Apr 30 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: where? | Apr 30 10:09 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: http://elmyra.livejournal.com/498792.html | Apr 30 10:09 |
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| Ziomatrix | oh I see what its about | Apr 30 10:10 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63P4VA20100426 | Apr 30 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Klausner sues HTC over visual voicemail| Reuters .::. Size~: 48.71 KB | Apr 30 10:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @daemonfc Comcast 'wins' Consumerist worst-company tournament http://ur1.ca/y3vr | Apr 30 10:44 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: good launch so far, eh? | Apr 30 10:48 |
| jono | schestowitz I think so :) | Apr 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | All the reviews are good | Apr 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I saw one bitter one in BW... but that's just BW (Wintel) | Apr 30 10:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] no recommendations arrived by @twitter but Nirankar has been cited offline as great indian in inner #melbourne. and The Spice Kitchen | Apr 30 10:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise not disputing state's right to attempt policy-but we're complaining about THE POLICY! (+this seems to be federal territory) | Apr 30 10:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] By the way, I still remember you telling me you wanted to send me an e-mail, but you never really did. @Bashar_Kokash | Apr 30 11:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all, how are things with you today? Me? Hangover from the Ubuntu Release Party last night, was fun! Onto the first call... | Apr 30 11:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Just remember to remove mono-runtime for them. "sudo apt-get purge mono-runtime" @yugi | Apr 30 11:02 | |
| omar__ | Guys, do you see anything wrong with follower counter on twitter? | Apr 30 11:05 |
| ---omar__ is now known as Omar87 | Apr 30 11:05 | |
| Omar87 | followers* | Apr 30 11:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Zuckerberg's disdain for your #facebook privacy is sure to bite him back in the private parts | Apr 30 11:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@undispatch "If we can ban cluster bombs, we can ban rape as a weapon" http://bit.ly/aXjtz5 // but US/Israel/UK won't sign cluster bomb ban | Apr 30 11:10 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Rape as a Weapon of War | UN Dispatch .::. Size~: 39.51 KB | Apr 30 11:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise aren't human rights generally a federal thing? if not, why not? | Apr 30 11:15 | |
| Eruaran | unbelievable | Apr 30 11:18 |
| Eruaran | I can't install Windows on this system | Apr 30 11:18 |
| Eruaran | (its for work) | Apr 30 11:18 |
| Eruaran | Dell truly rhymes with hell | Apr 30 11:18 |
| cubezzz | bah | Apr 30 11:19 |
| Eruaran | it has a recovery partition | Apr 30 11:19 |
| cubezzz | put Linux on there then :) | Apr 30 11:19 |
| Eruaran | but you cant use it | Apr 30 11:19 |
| cubezzz | why torture yourself? | Apr 30 11:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise great constitutional scholars like Sarah Palin insist that the #AZ law is really meant to *remind* the Feds to "enforce"... | Apr 30 11:19 | |
| Eruaran | Why? Becuase you need to actually be able to boot Windows to use their recovery software | Apr 30 11:19 |
| Eruaran | What kind of an idiot makes a recovery partition that depends on the regular Windows partition being in good working order? | Apr 30 11:20 |
| Eruaran | So... try a normal install | Apr 30 11:20 |
| Eruaran | No, wont work, why? | Apr 30 11:20 |
| Eruaran | Because the install halts and Windows asks for a driver for the CD/DVD | Apr 30 11:21 |
| cubezzz | man, I'm glad I don't use doze :) | Apr 30 11:21 |
| Eruaran | you know... the one that its already using... | Apr 30 11:21 |
| cubezzz | even for work I don't | Apr 30 11:21 |
| Eruaran | Cannot go any further | Apr 30 11:21 |
| Eruaran | the customer is stuffed | Apr 30 11:21 |
| Eruaran | complete dead end | Apr 30 11:21 |
| cubezzz | windows sucks, it really does | Apr 30 11:22 |
| Eruaran | I'm stuck | Apr 30 11:22 |
| Eruaran | this is for a customer | Apr 30 11:22 |
| cubezzz | couldn't you put windows 2000 on there just to get by? | Apr 30 11:22 |
| cubezzz | or something | Apr 30 11:23 |
| cubezzz | then run your recovery software | Apr 30 11:23 |
| Eruaran | I still have to restore it to vista | Apr 30 11:23 |
| cubezzz | blargh | Apr 30 11:23 |
| Eruaran | you have to have the recovery software thats normally installed as well | Apr 30 11:23 |
| cubezzz | what a turd :) | Apr 30 11:24 |
| Eruaran | this is the second Dell I've had this week | Apr 30 11:24 |
| Eruaran | both have been an absolute nightmare | Apr 30 11:24 |
| Eruaran | And of course Dell isn't going to compensate me for my time | Apr 30 11:24 |
| cubezzz | don't most modern installs have a recovery partition? | Apr 30 11:25 |
| cubezzz | something in the bios? | Apr 30 11:25 |
| Eruaran | It is so bad that I'm considering telling people that I wont service Dell systems | Apr 30 11:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @SarahPalinUSA: Having worked/lived thru #Exxon spill // did you suddenly recover those memories by hypnosis, dear? #bp #oil #energy #gop | Apr 30 11:25 | |
| Eruaran | I've looked | Apr 30 11:25 |
| Eruaran | you cant boot it | Apr 30 11:25 |
| Eruaran | Dell's 24 hour help line is engaged of course | Apr 30 11:26 |
| cubezzz | I've never had that much trouble with Dell | Apr 30 11:26 |
| cubezzz | but a lot of the time I'm putting Linux on them | Apr 30 11:27 |
| Eruaran | indeed | Apr 30 11:27 |
| Eruaran | the last Dell I had, the entire time I could run Ubuntu off a live cd without problems | Apr 30 11:28 |
| cubezzz | why the heck would anyone want Visa? | Apr 30 11:28 |
| cubezzz | er, vista :) | Apr 30 11:29 |
| Eruaran | Its not my choice | Apr 30 11:30 |
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| cubezzz | everyone's always complaining... I guess I really am fortunate | Apr 30 11:30 |
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| cubezzz | I'm using Linux about 95% of the time, even at work | Apr 30 11:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KagroX I can't believe the oil spill already has a book deal. // "Flowing Rogue"? | Apr 30 11:32 | |
| Eruaran | This is a Dell notebook from 2008... you'd think Windows could use a dvd drive from 2008 without problems... | Apr 30 11:33 |
| Eruaran | Windows 7 works | Apr 30 11:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The new widget handling in KDE is rather astrounding. | Apr 30 11:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@attackerman Flowers now asking about #Khadr's knowledge of Maher Arar. // WHaaaaat? That's like asking Frodo if he knows Luke Skywalker | Apr 30 11:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@KagroX In fairness, though, who knew #oil was liquid? // NoRWNJ could have predicted this! | Apr 30 11:45 | |
| Eruaran | screw it. Windows 7 is getting installed | Apr 30 11:46 |
| Eruaran | I'd prefer Ubuntu but this is a Windows user who would probably freak | Apr 30 11:46 |
| Eruaran | I'll just change the service | Apr 30 11:46 |
| Eruaran | sigh... I hate my job sometimes | Apr 30 11:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Operating Lucid: Bring Ubuntu to the London skyline - http://is.gd/bOFIg #ubuntu | Apr 30 11:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Folks, check out the new Shot Of Jaq about Severed Fifth - http://is.gd/bOFKS #shotofjaq #severedfifth | Apr 30 11:49 | |
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| schestowitz | Our wayne takes on geist in the comments: http://madhatter.ca/2010/04/27/why-is-michael-geist-in-favour-of-digital-rights-managementtechnical-protection-measures/ | Apr 30 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Why Is Michael Geist In Favour Of Digital Rights Management/Technical Protection Measures? « Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 93.48 KB | Apr 30 11:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Black bird dying in the dead of night #bpsongs cc @kellb0 | Apr 30 11:59 | |
| Eruaran | Saved myself a whole lotta work... | Apr 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Installed some gnus? | Apr 30 12:12 |
| Eruaran | I wish | Apr 30 12:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Did #KDE 4 implement the 'snap' feature before #Vista7? Because #Vista7 did copy a lot from KDE developers | Apr 30 12:13 | |
| Eruaran | That comes later today | Apr 30 12:13 |
| Eruaran | fixing up a guys dual boot ubuntu/windows | Apr 30 12:13 |
| Eruaran | he installed ubuntu 10.04 with the grub bug | Apr 30 12:14 |
| Eruaran | he didn't know how to fix it so he could boot windows | Apr 30 12:14 |
| Eruaran | and he panicked and did silly things with his hard drives | Apr 30 12:14 |
| Eruaran | I'll fix it up for him :p | Apr 30 12:15 |
| Eruaran | He always screws his system up | Apr 30 12:17 |
| Eruaran | he managed to hose his system with Fedora one day | Apr 30 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Same with Windows | Apr 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | People mess up Windows all the time | Apr 30 12:18 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | They call family/neighbour/'engineer' | Apr 30 12:18 |
| Eruaran | I have found that there's always someone who can screw up a system no matter what OS they're using | Apr 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Availability of 'helpdesk' is why we need even more Ubuntu users.... I don't mind Ubuntu | Apr 30 12:18 |
| schestowitz | See how Apple grew with network effect | Apr 30 12:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is desperately trying to suffocate Linux cause it's well past criticial mass | Apr 30 12:19 |
| schestowitz | KDE4 works like a charm | Apr 30 12:19 |
| Eruaran | I'm actively promoting lucid | Apr 30 12:19 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 30 12:19 |
| Eruaran | I might see if I can get Synaptic lookin pretty on kde4 | Apr 30 12:20 |
| Eruaran | or the ubuntu software centre... I assume its in the repositories | Apr 30 12:20 |
| *Eruaran looks | Apr 30 12:20 | |
| Eruaran | With Kubuntu its not KDE that I worry about when It comes to making Joe Average happy, its package management... I'm ok with KPackageKit myself but I can't honestly recommend it to customers who will be intimidated and confused by the list of packages they see when they search for "vlc" | Apr 30 12:22 |
| Ender2070 | i like kpackagekit | Apr 30 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Rich Johnson nixternal | Apr 30 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Apr 30 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz rock on, that is good to hear. you get any funkyness, don't hesitate getting in touch. see what we can figure out | Apr 30 12:30 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/nixternal/status/13116456391 | Apr 30 12:30 |
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| schestowitz | Eruaran: no need for Synaptic | Apr 30 12:30 |
| schestowitz | kpackagekit is all bushed up | Apr 30 12:31 |
| Eruaran | in lucid? | Apr 30 12:31 |
| schestowitz | never mind, you both beat me to it, I see (as I read on) | Apr 30 12:31 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: yes | Apr 30 12:31 |
| Ender2070 | i've already replaced kubuntu 10.04 | Apr 30 12:35 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 30 12:35 |
| schestowitz | fedora? | Apr 30 12:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] awesome! RT @zigzackly: instead of 'RT (ed)' how about 'ET' for Edited Tweet? | Apr 30 12:41 | |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Apr 30 12:46 |
| Ender2070 | Fedora 13 | Apr 30 12:47 |
| Ender2070 | I kind of wish it had gcc 4.5 though | Apr 30 12:48 |
| Ender2070 | it really boosted the speed of opensuse | Apr 30 12:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Tim Minchin: The Pope Song http://is.gd/bOJXy nsfw for heartfelt sweariness | Apr 30 12:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] How to deal with people playing music on their phones on public transport http://b3ta.com/questions/nemesis/post711341 | Apr 30 12:55 | |
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| schestowitz | > Re: Nick Farrell very lukewarm on Ubuntu | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > Check out the adverts on the site .. | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > "Ubuntu .. comes with social notworking integration because, unlike | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > other Linux users, Ubuntu users often have friends" | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1603562/canonical-releases-ubuntu-linux-04-lts | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1433268/ssds-linux-dropping-fashion | Apr 30 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Canonical releases ubuntu linux 10.04 lts - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 74.1 KB | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ssds and linux are dropping out of fashion - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 117.42 KB | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1603069/htc-pays-microsoft-linux-protection-racket | Apr 30 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Htc pays off microsoft in linux protection racket - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 65.21 KB | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566494/analyst-claims-apple-moving-microsoft | Apr 30 13:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Analyst claims apple is moving towards microsoft - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 75.16 KB | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | seigo says "@schestowitz no, snap appeared in win7 first; demos of it on youtube set the tieline. not all the good ideas start here, just many ;)" | Apr 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 imitation... not good | Apr 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30596538 "@schestowitz Looks like Windows 7 came first → http://2tu.us/220c (look for 'snap')" | Apr 30 13:38 |
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| Ender2070 | haha u guys have an old kde | Apr 30 13:38 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30597702 "@schestowitz I think that feature came with !kde 4.4, and it will be extended for 4.5" | Apr 30 13:39 |
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| Ender2070 | <-- KDE 4.4.3 | Apr 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I /think/ Win7's snap was before KDE's (but I don't remember for sure, and haven't looked at the source commits to see)" http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30597754 | Apr 30 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | Can you thinf of prior art? | Apr 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I can think of similar things of allocation | Apr 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Where you are shown prefers positions | Apr 30 13:39 |
| cubezzz | of course I have old KDE | Apr 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz It would be cool if !KDE gave itself more publicity. I always find about neat features thru unofficial channels." http://identi.ca/conversation/30506966#notice-30601629 | Apr 30 13:40 |
| cubezzz | that's what I prefer | Apr 30 13:40 |
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| cubezzz | compiled it myself too :) | Apr 30 13:41 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Apr 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz | "@losinggeneration @tioduke @gallaecio @aseigo fluid layout has loads of prior art, Microsoft just did a minor variation; Apple's Dock too" | Apr 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to find fit to grid demos | Apr 30 13:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Screw you #Google!! Either you translate the word מחמד to its TRUE meaning or you've just proven how filthy you are!! >< | Apr 30 13:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "As an affront to God, it is successful, but as a sandwich, it falls flat." I am disappoint. http://is.gd/bOQ38 | Apr 30 14:18 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Fastfood Meals for Failures | Cracked.com .::. Size~: 55.55 KB | Apr 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Can anybody try http://www.archive.org/download/lsd-lfnw2010/selinux-pt1.ogv ? | Apr 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz | In Firefox I can't get it to stream | Apr 30 14:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I have not heard this one in a long while, Orbital "satan" | Apr 30 14:29 | |
| Aondo | schestowitz only 7kB? | Apr 30 14:30 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz That is true. In many ways it's similar to things like tiling WM's (but with just two windows tiled vertically) http://identi.ca/conversation/30514256#notice-30606597 fit/snap to grid | Apr 30 14:32 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: did florian mail you too? | Apr 30 14:46 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://hugoroy.eu/jobs-os.php | Apr 30 14:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @cyounes احنا مالنا ومال فلسطين؟ احنا مالنا ومال الأقصى؟ هذا ما ينقص حكامنا أن يجهروا ب | Apr 30 15:30 | |
| Ender2070_ | lol | Apr 30 15:33 |
| Ender2070_ | i think html5 renders flash soundboards obsolete too | Apr 30 15:44 |
| Ender2070_ | http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_audio.asp | Apr 30 15:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] SIA special programme about biodiversity http://is.gd/bOVuc | Apr 30 15:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool is Being Assembled to Go After #Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs Now.” http://ur1.ca/y5kt #apple #ogg | Apr 30 15:55 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool is Being Assembled to Go After Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs Now.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.46 KB | Apr 30 15:55 |
| Ender2070_ | schestowitz - did you see that lefty vid i linked? | Apr 30 16:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @slashdot: Avatar Blu-Ray DRM Issues http://bit.ly/9Uveve | Apr 30 16:22 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot Entertainment Story | Avatar Blu-Ray DRM Issues .::. Size~: 86.86 KB | Apr 30 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: I haven't | Apr 30 16:24 |
| schestowitz | What did he do this time? | Apr 30 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Videos marketing those sex toys he vends/ | Apr 30 16:25 |
| schestowitz | ? | Apr 30 16:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you're going to like what I just dented | Apr 30 16:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺@schestowitz: Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool Being Assembled to Go After #Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs” http://ur1.ca/y5kt #apple #ogg | Apr 30 16:27 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Steve Jobs: “A Patent Pool is Being Assembled to Go After Theora and Other “Open Source” Codecs Now.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.46 KB | Apr 30 16:27 |
| *schestowitz waits impatiently | Apr 30 16:29 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steve Jobs is officially going after Theora now http://ur1.ca/y5pe !gnu !linux !freesoftware | Apr 30 16:32 | |
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| Ender2070_ | schestowitz - no but he looked like a fool, was fighting with the google rep and generally made me laugh | Apr 30 16:33 |
| Ender2070_ | http://videos.linuxfoundation.org/video/1015 | Apr 30 16:34 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: State of Linux Mobile Panel: Why It's Happening and What It Means | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 58.88 KB | Apr 30 16:34 |
| Ender2070_ | funny cause lefty tells the google rep and no carrier will allow android to have its users install *any* app on it | Apr 30 16:35 |
| Ender2070_ | that no carrier* | Apr 30 16:35 |
| Aondo | ah almost 1h video about linux mobile, interesting :D | Apr 30 16:35 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah its very interesting | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Ender2070_ | its a little old too so any predictions make me laugh | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Aondo | hehe | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Aondo | got this feeling i've seen it before.. hehe | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Aondo | but not sure, so gonna keep watching :P | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Ender2070_ | you might have its from 2008 | Apr 30 16:37 |
| Ender2070_ | it was just published online recently though | Apr 30 16:38 |
| Aondo | hmm whatls up with limo this days btw | Apr 30 16:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Oh, Arizona! If one pants-shittingly racist law isn't enough ... Teachers with "accents" (i.e. Hispanic) to be fired http://is.gd/bOYWO | Apr 30 16:40 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: it dented. | Apr 30 16:41 |
| Ender2070_ | Aondo - they have one phone ;) | Apr 30 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Yes, just followed it | Apr 30 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Florian mailed me about it | Apr 30 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you saw my post | Apr 30 16:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Apr 30 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Aondo: DOA | Apr 30 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | Very few new phones | Apr 30 16:43 |
| schestowitz | THe Japanese companies are creating a new consortium now | Apr 30 16:43 |
| schestowitz | They used to be limos big backers | Apr 30 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070_: he's a ProprieTard | Apr 30 16:44 |
| Ender2070_ | lol in the video again he says access leverages the open source community to save themselves money and time | Apr 30 16:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Keeping #Mono Out of #Ubuntu 10.04 and #Android ; #HTC Sued Again for Software Patents http://ur1.ca/y5u8 #swpats | Apr 30 17:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] YouGov busted rigging polls, try to sue blogger's site out of existence http://is.gd/bP0h4 #ge2010 | Apr 30 17:01 | |
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| Ender2070_ | theres a .ogg version too | Apr 30 17:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Call Out #Windows http://ur1.ca/y5z1 new set of pages created to raise awareness of specificity of security issues. | Apr 30 17:25 | |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070_: give him another 2 years and he'll look like an older and skinnier version of SteveB :-D | Apr 30 17:41 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/razvansandu/statuses/13142338863 "RT @descendent87 @schestowitz: #kubuntu lucid is pretty nice, also #opensuse 11.3 alpha 6 is out today" | Apr 30 17:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @mfitz: Really enjoying @jonobacon's "Art of Community" - http://is.gd/bOYtd - Feeling inspired by Ubuntu again w/ the release of Lucid! | Apr 30 17:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Out-of-Cycle Patches for #Vista7 (Not Stable), #Security Issues Noted by #Google http://ur1.ca/y670 | Apr 30 18:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Portuguese video clubs want to sue the Portuguese state for innaction against piracy. http://ff.im/jCsL5 Can I sue for lobby-caving? | Apr 30 18:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am finding myself leaning on Ubuntu One more and more, it is so nice for syncing my music, notes, contacts, and files between my laptops. | Apr 30 19:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Patent Tax on #Linux -powered Televisions http://ur1.ca/y6fi #swpats #android #google #samsung #htc | Apr 30 19:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Does #Android ’s Chief Compare Steve Jobs to North Korea’s Dead Leader (Kim Il-sung)? http://ur1.ca/y6k2 #linux #apple | Apr 30 19:25 | |
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| schestowitz | That's just insulting to Koreans | Apr 30 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Both boys attending opening of Wonderland. Wish we had things like that when I was a kid. | Apr 30 19:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Yikes: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1108748 | Apr 30 19:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Acacia ’s Case Against #GNU #Linux is Dead http://ur1.ca/y6qh thanks, @stevejberry #swpat #troll #microsoft #verdict | Apr 30 19:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@MissSugarLipz #whatwouldyoudo if your computer was super slow at work // tell them they cant afford #windows viruses any more, & get #Mac | Apr 30 20:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Jobs: 'patent pool is being assembled to go after #Theora &other open source codecs' Steve u can stop using #Microsoft's liar's playbook now | Apr 30 21:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, I have health insurance again in about 2 hours | Apr 30 21:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A computer is the ultimate idiot. | Apr 30 21:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ttcupdates #chaos theory blamed 4 #ttc's scheduling issues //that's actually plausible. See also research into turbulent flow&traffic jams | Apr 30 22:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Org9 #Harper has spent more on public-opinion rsrch than any #government in #Canada history //very bad sign; see also: John Howard | Apr 30 22:32 | |
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| cubezzz | quiet tonight | Apr 30 23:22 |
| cubezzz | guess everyone's out partying :) | Apr 30 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: It's only 37 minutes until I have health insurance again | Apr 30 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | boogie oogie oogie :P | Apr 30 23:23 |
| cubezzz | I haven't been to a doctor in a long time | Apr 30 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | have to make sure nothing bad happens to me for 36 more minutes | Apr 30 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | lock myself in a padded room and position a defense cannon on the roof to destroy stray inbound space objects | Apr 30 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | let the fragments hopefully hit someone that is insured | Apr 30 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 30 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I found out a fun fact today | Apr 30 23:26 |
| cubezzz | oh? | Apr 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Medicare and Medicaid don't cover hospital bills due to car accident regardless who was at fault | Apr 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | if you didn't have car insurance that covered that situation, you're screwed :D | Apr 30 23:27 |
| cubezzz | you have to watch out for those loopholes | Apr 30 23:27 |
| cubezzz | well I don't drive, waste of money | Apr 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I was trying to see if I could pull a fast one and cut my car insurance coverage a bit more | Apr 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | let Medicare pick it all up | Apr 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | guess not | Apr 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | or I could just put down that I was hit by space debris | Apr 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | that space debris will get you man | Apr 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | the atmosphere just ain't what it used to be | Apr 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | global warming you know | Apr 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 30 23:29 |
| cubezzz | it was pretty warm today | Apr 30 23:30 |
| cubezzz | over 20C | Apr 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | consult google out of curiosity or just assume that 20C is warm | Apr 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | yes, that is warm I suppose :D | Apr 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | to my knowledge | Apr 30 23:30 |
| cubezzz | pretty warm for April anyway | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | 20 degrees Celsius = 68 degrees Fahrenheit | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | 68 is not bad | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's usually where I keep my air conditioner | Apr 30 23:31 |
| cubezzz | probably hit 22C at one point | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | assuming that's in the mid 70s then | Apr 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | 71.6 anyway | Apr 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | 20C = 68F yeah | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | just use the units command :) | Apr 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I hate the metric system | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | e.g. You have: tempC(20) | Apr 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | and it may not be a bad system, it's just not the one I think in | Apr 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | You want: tempF | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | easy | Apr 30 23:32 |
| cubezzz | well 20C is warm (nice) 0C is freezing | Apr 30 23:33 |
| cubezzz | simple | Apr 30 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | 100 is where water boils, right? | Apr 30 23:33 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 30 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | so 100C would be 212 F | Apr 30 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | that gives me a reference I guess | Apr 30 23:33 |
| cubezzz | yes, you _can_ ..... learn the metric system :) | Apr 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | water freezes at 32 F | Apr 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | normal human body temperature is 98.6 | Apr 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | ish | Apr 30 23:34 |
| cubezzz | 37C | Apr 30 23:34 |
| cubezzz | ok, now how many litres in a gallon? | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | yes I could learn it | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | but why? | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | it would serve no purpose in daily life here | Apr 30 23:35 |
| cubezzz | well most of the world uses it | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing sold in liters is soda | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 30 23:35 |
| cubezzz | interesting | Apr 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | well, sometimes | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | there's the 2 liter bottle | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | the 1 liter bottle | Apr 30 23:36 |
| cubezzz | so you never see metric aside from pop bottles? | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | all other bottle sizes are in ounces | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | and only on the big pop bottles | Apr 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | once you get past the 32 ounce ones | Apr 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Some food is labeled in metric units, but those are secondary | Apr 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | like off in small print in parentheses | Apr 30 23:38 |
| cubezzz | ok how many furlongs in a mile? | Apr 30 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | then they tell you how much you are buying in pounds | Apr 30 23:38 |
| cubezzz | you use imperial units so.... :) | Apr 30 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | but then divide servings into grams | Apr 30 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's fun | Apr 30 23:38 |
| cubezzz | many pills use metric | Apr 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Actually, US Customary Units deviate from the "imperial units" | Apr 30 23:39 |
| cubezzz | er, maybe pills ue metric | Apr 30 23:39 |
| cubezzz | time for a new keyboard I think | Apr 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | not much, just enough to piss you off that the units are called the same thing | Apr 30 23:39 |
| cubezzz | why do they deviate? | Apr 30 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | good question | Apr 30 23:40 |
| cubezzz | ah I see | Apr 30 23:40 |
| cubezzz | because they hated the British, and had to do things "their way" :) | Apr 30 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | good enough reason to do anything I say | Apr 30 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 30 23:41 |
| cubezzz | ok, that's an even better reason to use the metric system | Apr 30 23:42 |
| cubezzz | far less confusing | Apr 30 23:42 |
| cubezzz | "The imperial gallon (4.54609 litres (L)) is 20% larger than the United States liquid gallon (3.785411784 L)." | Apr 30 23:42 |
| cubezzz | that's a big difference | Apr 30 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | yes except that you have hundreds of millions of people that never learned the metric system and have not really ever been exposed to it | Apr 30 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | it would take years of transition | Apr 30 23:43 |
| cubezzz | well Canada uses the Imperial system too you know :) | Apr 30 23:43 |
| cubezzz | used to | Apr 30 23:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Good morning Netlanders! New issue of gratis #BSD Magazine (5/2010) [PDF] available: http://tinyurl.com/34tuegx | Apr 30 23:43 | |
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| cubezzz | I learned the imperial system when I was younger actually | Apr 30 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | weather reports still have Fahrenheit degrees too? | Apr 30 23:43 |
| cubezzz | no | Apr 30 23:43 |
| cubezzz | centigrade | Apr 30 23:44 |
| cubezzz | or Celsius :) | Apr 30 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to be 80 tomorrow | Apr 30 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | and raining | Apr 30 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | iccck | Apr 30 23:44 |
| cubezzz | it's old too | Apr 30 23:45 |
| cubezzz | from 1744 | Apr 30 23:45 |
| cubezzz | there's no reason why the US couldn't have used it | Apr 30 23:45 |
| cubezzz | but North American in general isn't all that progressive | Apr 30 23:46 |
| cubezzz | most businesses still use Windows | Apr 30 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | well, probably the deviation can be explained by the fact that the imperial system pre-dates international standards | Apr 30 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | and everyone using it ended up modifying it out of sync and to their liking | Apr 30 23:46 |
| cubezzz | yes, and it went through a few revisions too | Apr 30 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's just like how US English broke off | Apr 30 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | evolved separately | Apr 30 23:47 |
| cubezzz | blame this guy-> "Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius (1701–1744)" | Apr 30 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | hundreds of years of poor communications, regional dialects, accents | Apr 30 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | it could not have remained entirely the same language | Apr 30 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | or when we started naming things that the British had never seen before | Apr 30 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | and borrowing words from the indigenous population | Apr 30 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | or from Spanish and French | Apr 30 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 30 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | there are hundreds of factors at play here | Apr 30 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose the same thing happened to units of measurement | Apr 30 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: There's no real reason to use the metric system | Apr 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have to | Apr 30 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Interesting thing is that even though no roads are labeled in kilometers, and no speed limits are in kilometers per hour, most cars have a secondary speedometer reading for kilometers per hour | Apr 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | but the odometers are only in miles | Apr 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's for if I drove to Canada or something I guess | Apr 30 23:52 |
| cubezzz | your scientists use the metric system | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's useless display space on any US road | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | mostly | Apr 30 23:53 |
| Ender2070 | metric is the future | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | no it's not | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | at least not here | Apr 30 23:53 |
| Ender2070 | yeah it is | Apr 30 23:53 |
| Ender2070 | eventually it will be | Apr 30 23:53 |
| cubezzz | the whole world is already using it | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | metric system will probably never take hold here | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | and certainly not anytime soon | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | they were going on and on in the 90s about how we'd all be using it by now | Apr 30 23:54 |
| Ender2070 | eventually you guys will get pissed at having to convert everything to imperial | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | still aren't | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | still not going that direction | Apr 30 23:54 |
| cubezzz | China uses it :) | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | good for them | Apr 30 23:54 |
| cubezzz | so guess what's going to happen | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | I see no signs of it heading that way | Apr 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | at any level of government | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even an issue that's talked about anymore | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's something of a running joke | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh yeah, we all have freaking robot servants and we use the metric system" | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | you know, like making fun of all the old propaganda | Apr 30 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | world of the future crap | Apr 30 23:56 |
| cubezzz | well we definitely should have electric cars... at least | Apr 30 23:57 |
| cubezzz | and they are here finally | Apr 30 23:57 |
| cubezzz | The Nissan Leaf | Apr 30 23:58 |
| cubezzz | GM really botched that up | Apr 30 23:59 |
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