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DaemonFCin otherwords I have to make a square peg fit a round hole using only the parts I have in the spare parts bucketMay 31 00:00
DaemonFC:DMay 31 00:00
cubezzzI'm pretty happy with UHF antennaMay 31 00:00
DaemonFCI found an old 17" Compaq CRT monitor in the closetMay 31 00:00
DaemonFC:PMay 31 00:00
cubezzzone customer even bought my hauppage analog tv card so now I don't even have a tv cardMay 31 00:00
cubezzzI wouldn't mind getting a card that could do hardware assisted encoding and decodingMay 31 00:01
cubezzzif there is such a cardMay 31 00:01
*WireWulf would like a corvetteMay 31 00:04
*WireWulf is just saying :PMay 31 00:04
DaemonFCthere's no accounting for taste, I guessMay 31 00:05
DaemonFC:PMay 31 00:05
cubezzztivo had a 33 mhz cpuMay 31 00:05
cubezzzit _must_ have had hardware assisted encoding/decodingMay 31 00:06
cubezzzmaybe Hauppauge's WinTV PVR 250/350 ?May 31 00:07
cubezzzI bet you could get one cheap on ebayMay 31 00:07
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WireWulfsony psp only has a 333MHz processerMay 31 00:08
cubezzztivo was bad in other ways thoughMay 31 00:08
WireWulfso it has to have something to help with MP3 iles and mp4 decodingMay 31 00:09
cubezzzyeah but what about decoding?May 31 00:09
cubezzzfor PCMay 31 00:09
cubezzzI'm not clear on that partMay 31 00:09
cubezzzmp3 can be done on almost anythingMay 31 00:10
cubezzz200 mhz on zaurus is enough for thatMay 31 00:10
cubezzzso what I'm really looking for is hardware assisted encoding and decodingMay 31 00:10
WireWulfMP4 is a issue on most things with a small cpu thoMay 31 00:11
scienteshow do i figure our why a program crashedMay 31 00:12
cubezzzyou mentioned mp3 as well... May 31 00:12
scientesX keeps crashingMay 31 00:12
scientesand i dont know where the logs areMay 31 00:12
cubezzzwell in the olden days it was /var/log/XFree86.0.logMay 31 00:12
scientesXorg.0.logMay 31 00:13
WireWulf /fuck/me/x.org/sucks/most/times/on/this/damned/p4May 31 00:13
scientesbut i dont see anything thereMay 31 00:13
cubezzzso use XFree86 instead :)May 31 00:13
WireWulfumm XFree86 is still around ??May 31 00:14
cubezzzon my box it is May 31 00:14
WireWulfold skoolMay 31 00:14
cubezzzI've had X up over a yearMay 31 00:15
WireWulfthink i am going to have to wipe my HDD's and switch to something light and powerful on this computerMay 31 00:15
WireWulfhave yet to figure out what that is tho :PMay 31 00:16
cubezzzhmmm, well...May 31 00:16
cubezzzyou could try vector linuxMay 31 00:16
WireWulf:PMay 31 00:17
cubezzzdo you use KDE?May 31 00:17
WireWulfno i use fluxbox or sreen May 31 00:17
WireWulfi have personal issues with gnome and KDEMay 31 00:18
cubezzzhmmmMay 31 00:18
cubezzzI do like older KDEMay 31 00:18
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cubezzzwell FreeBSD had KDE 3.5 a while backMay 31 00:19
cubezzznot sure if they still doMay 31 00:20
cubezzznah, they got 4.3+ nowMay 31 00:20
cubezzzFreeBSD 6.2 has KDE 3.5 May 31 00:21
WireWulfniceMay 31 00:23
WireWulflooking linux wise thoMay 31 00:23
cubezzzchakra or vector thenMay 31 00:24
cubezzzhttp://chakra-project.org/download.htmlMay 31 00:24
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WireWulfmm archMay 31 00:26
WireWulfalways failed at setting up the repos in arch thoMay 31 00:27
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cubezzzif you go back to Fedora 8 (or 9???) you can get KDE 3.5 alsoMay 31 00:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates’ Reputation Laundering is Good Investment for #Microsoft Corporation http://ur1.ca/04gl0May 31 00:27
TechrightsTitle: Bill Gates Reputation Laundering is Good Investment for Microsoft Corporation | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.24 KBMay 31 00:27
cubezzzFedora 8 for sure anywayMay 31 00:28
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WireWulfi have never used fedora :PMay 31 00:28
WireWulfP$ 1GB ram and is being bogged down by this linux distro xDMay 31 00:29
WireWulffriend said i need to look into mandriva and PClinuxOSMay 31 00:29
cubezzzwhich one?May 31 00:30
cubezzzare you really on sparc?May 31 00:30
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WireWulfno the sparc run my own homebrew linuxMay 31 00:33
cubezzzvery niceMay 31 00:33
WireWulfi have had no luck with x86 computer and my own linux distros thoMay 31 00:33
WireWulfoddly :PMay 31 00:34
cubezzzI've have pretty good luck with older linuxMay 31 00:34
WireWulfi belame the celerons and p4sMay 31 00:34
WireWulfi am going to try PClinuxOS openbox and KDEMay 31 00:35
cubezzzPCLinuxOS 2010 uses KDE 4.4+May 31 00:35
cubezzzso you might want older PCLinuxOSMay 31 00:35
WireWulf2010 also is e17, gnome, openbox, xfce, gnome zen miniMay 31 00:36
WireWulfnah think i will use the openbox version May 31 00:36
cubezzzyeah, I want older KDE :)May 31 00:36
WireWulf:PMay 31 00:36
cubezzzI built my own you see and I'm used to it nowMay 31 00:36
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WireWulfi built my own for the sparc but like i saisd x86 keeps failingMay 31 00:37
cubezzzhow does X run on the Sparc?May 31 00:37
WireWulfi dontMay 31 00:37
cubezzzah :)May 31 00:37
WireWulfthe sparc has no openGL or 3D support so i just enjoy screen and miles of textMay 31 00:38
cubezzzyou could still run X thoughMay 31 00:38
WireWulfyeah i couldMay 31 00:39
WireWulfcould run fluxbox or openbox or even twmMay 31 00:39
cubezzzha, I tried twm onceMay 31 00:39
WireWulfTWM is my root's wm normalyMay 31 00:40
cubezzzwell if you wanted to do anything graphical... like scanner or gimp or somethingMay 31 00:40
cubezzzdon't know Sparc too well myselfMay 31 00:40
WireWulfsparc just keeps ppl out and backs up my stuffMay 31 00:40
cubezzzrightMay 31 00:40
WireWulfso far it has did its job May 31 00:41
WireWulfalso is good for hosting a game server or website but :P i dont have the bandwith for that (yet)May 31 00:42
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cubezzzI don't know anyone who runs KDE on sparcMay 31 00:46
cubezzzand older KDE source is disappearingMay 31 00:46
WireWulfyupMay 31 00:47
WireWulfwhen i had it with solars i ran cdeMay 31 00:47
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cubezzzeveryone's dropping 3.5.10 tooMay 31 00:57
cubezzzI better get that source before it disappearsMay 31 00:57
ender2070some nut will have itMay 31 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Both Sen. Williams and Mr. Gates Do a Great Disservice to the Hundreds of Thousands of Students and Teachers” http://ur1.ca/04greMay 31 01:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Dammit, just discovered the #fedora Release party was today in Walnut Creek. Would have liked to have gon.e Hope you had a great time, all!May 31 01:03
TechrightsTitle: “Both Sen. Williams and Mr. Gates Do a Great Disservice to the Hundreds of Thousands of Students and Teachers” | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.56 KBMay 31 01:04
schestowitzThe server is overrun May 31 01:05
schestowitzI guess it's good time for bedMay 31 01:05
schestowitzload average: 13.14, 6.97, 3.63May 31 01:05
schestowitzIf only we had more capacity to serve fastMay 31 01:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@chonabo @KatrinaNation Dershowitz - unusual rhetorical sarcasm? http://nyti.ms/cMnm40 // to be blunt, Dershowitz is insane & dangerousMay 31 01:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft and naïve/corrupt officials conspiring to wreck #education everywhere (via @schestowitz) http://ur1.ca/04gre #us #fraud #monopolyMay 31 01:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What #Microsoft has done to #technology related markets is perfectly analogous to a never-ending gusher of toxic waste, smothering all lifeMay 31 01:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] In guise of "assisting local #software industry," or "aiding schools," #Microsoft is actually slowly poisoning real ecosystems & initiativesMay 31 01:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@danwootton This is a shame RT @Dompost: Breaking news: Hobbit dir Del Toro quits http://bit.ly/cYHBi9 //hollywood-leave The Hobbit alone!May 31 01:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, I'm done for the night. Tomorrow: A DVD you can download/share legally for free. A demoscene delight! www.openbytes.wordpress.comMay 31 01:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4TLto-nKfU #reddwarf #smegheadMay 31 01:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the Severed Fifth studio laying down drum tracks.May 31 01:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Catholic Church hell bent on destroying abuse victims & families: http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/816223 #canada h/t @eikonosMay 31 01:45
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DaemonFCdeny, blame, and minimize ender2070 May 31 01:47
DaemonFCalways what an abusive person or organization doesMay 31 01:47
DaemonFCit's easier than just admitting that you were wrongMay 31 01:48
DaemonFCand taking the consequencesMay 31 01:48
DaemonFCthe problem is that it generally doesn't work and ends up making the person/organization look even worseMay 31 01:48
DaemonFCthe best thing the church could have done in this scandal was "We screwed up, we promise to get to the bottom of this immediately and make sure it does not happen again"May 31 01:49
DaemonFCthat heads off your critics at the passMay 31 01:50
DaemonFCwhat are they going to say after your opening salvo admits that you were wrong and promises to fix it?May 31 01:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Re your download article - please mention Nina Paley (Sita Sings the Blues) and Hanna Skold (Nasty Old People)May 31 01:51
ender2070lolMay 31 01:59
DaemonFCender2070, The problem with the Catholic church is that they didn't do that first chanceMay 31 02:00
DaemonFCand now all they can do is tell more liesMay 31 02:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Soda-a useless product that only makes you sick-is causing #water shortages and #pollution around the planet: http://bit.ly/aPuZAl #cokeMay 31 02:03
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DaemonFCI called my landlord and asked him to call the downstairs tenant and tell them to cut off the damned noiseMay 31 02:05
DaemonFCthey're down there throwing some wild party and the noise is making me sick :PMay 31 02:05
DaemonFChe asked me if the guy's mom is home and I told him no and that she wouldn't stand for it if she was thereMay 31 02:06
DaemonFCthe guy is as old as I amMay 31 02:06
DaemonFClives there with the girl he got pregnantMay 31 02:06
DaemonFCand the babyMay 31 02:06
DaemonFCdoesn't workMay 31 02:06
DaemonFCjust lays around all day blasting his stereoMay 31 02:07
DaemonFCoh, and yelling at the baby when it criesMay 31 02:07
DaemonFCreminds me of a neighbor I used to have, like 20 years ago that was in his 30s and living with his momMay 31 02:08
DaemonFCbut he had a physics degree and worked as an usher at a movie theater :)May 31 02:08
DaemonFCthat guy had brains and didn't use themMay 31 02:09
DaemonFCguy downstairs is just a retardMay 31 02:10
DaemonFC:PMay 31 02:10
DaemonFChmmm, found my suitMay 31 02:19
DaemonFCand some suspendersMay 31 02:20
DaemonFCender2070, I'm going to dress up like Gordon Gekko now I guessMay 31 02:20
DaemonFCI always did think of that movie when I saw this suit :PMay 31 02:20
ender2070lolMay 31 02:21
ender2070i want my time back for having read all thatMay 31 02:21
ender2070:PMay 31 02:21
DaemonFCender2070, The retard downstairs?May 31 02:21
DaemonFC:DMay 31 02:21
ender2070okMay 31 02:22
DaemonFCif that guy ever gets a job picking my nose he'll have moved up a notchMay 31 02:22
DaemonFCif I ever get Darth Vader superpowers, he'll be the first one I force chokeMay 31 02:23
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ender2070i didnt notice I was already running koffice 2.2May 31 02:25
ender2070fedora +1May 31 02:25
DaemonFCwith docx support?May 31 02:25
DaemonFC:)May 31 02:26
ender2070yesMay 31 02:26
ender2070not that i use docxMay 31 02:26
ender2070worst format everMay 31 02:26
DaemonFCFGLRX developers would collectively be the second on my list of people to force chokeMay 31 02:27
DaemonFC"We at AMD love open standards, that's why we barely support Linux at all and kiss Steve Ballmer's ass every time MS does anything"May 31 02:29
DaemonFCohhhMay 31 02:31
DaemonFCWall Street is onMay 31 02:31
DaemonFCon Fox Movie ChannelMay 31 02:31
DaemonFCyayMay 31 02:31
DaemonFCNovell would be Teldar PaperMay 31 02:32
DaemonFC:PMay 31 02:32
ender2070dudeMay 31 02:34
ender2070i've been saying that about AMD for like a yearMay 31 02:34
ender2070they made it open source to 'leverage' the community and not have to hire anyoneMay 31 02:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @eikonos .@IsraelMFA Nah, the aim of the #flotilla is to get humanitarian aid into #Gaza despite #Israel's efforts to block aidMay 31 02:37
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oiaohmhttp://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2010-05/msg00705.html Maybe at long last C++ complier will be made work for static builds.May 31 02:47
DaemonFCender2070, I got him to turn it downMay 31 02:51
DaemonFCI went down there with a retractable baton and a few polite wordsMay 31 02:51
DaemonFC:)May 31 02:51
DaemonFCI hate to admit it, but this Microsoft mouse and Microsoft keyboard are niceMay 31 02:54
DaemonFCprobably due to them being rebranded Logitech stuffMay 31 02:54
DaemonFC:PMay 31 02:54
oiaohmThing is they work with all OS's perfectly.May 31 02:56
oiaohmI do find the branded logtech stuff better.May 31 02:56
oiaohmFor lifespan.May 31 02:56
DaemonFChmmmMay 31 02:56
DaemonFCyeah, my old Microsoft wired keyboard and mouse always worked fine with LinuxMay 31 02:56
DaemonFCI tend to buy the Microsoft ones because they're exactly the same as the Logitech model that's more expensiveMay 31 02:57
DaemonFCthe only brand hardware that I stay far away from is CreativeMay 31 02:58
DaemonFCif it's not bad hardware it's a driver problemMay 31 02:58
DaemonFCthen they attack any users that try to work around their problemsMay 31 02:59
DaemonFCthey've gone down the toilet as a companyMay 31 03:01
DaemonFCI'm amazed they're still even thereMay 31 03:01
ender2070I use a Logitech G15 on my desktopMay 31 03:01
ender2070and a logitech mouseMay 31 03:01
ender2070its a gamer mouseMay 31 03:01
ender2070http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4259May 31 03:02
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DaemonFCdid anyone else notice how Creative came way down in priceMay 31 03:02
DaemonFCover the last few yearsMay 31 03:02
ender2070works 100% in linuxMay 31 03:02
DaemonFCerrrMay 31 03:03
ender2070all the buttons programmableMay 31 03:03
DaemonFCI think they're noticing what they're worthMay 31 03:03
tessierI have an MX-something wireless laser mouse. I really like it.May 31 03:03
DaemonFCWalmart won't even carry most of their things anymoreMay 31 03:03
DaemonFCI think my wired mouse was a Logitech LX3000 or somethingMay 31 03:05
DaemonFCthe Microsoft one seems more preciseMay 31 03:05
tessierGas is aroudn 6lbs/galMay 31 03:08
tessieroopsMay 31 03:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@peterdaou #BP CEO says he "would like his life back" http://bit.ly/99rcm4 via @ilyseh // oh, the possible snarky responses...May 31 03:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@rayvelline @tosfm it appears #gaza #flotilla has been fired upon. WAKE UP, WORLD! #israelMay 31 03:26
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cubezzzwhat other distros have KDE 3.5?May 31 03:29
DaemonFCcubezzz, Kubuntu doesMay 31 03:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@johnderosa I think yours wins! #4wordsbeforedeathMay 31 03:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Only civilians on board. #4wordsbeforedeath #gaza #flotilla http://post.ly/hxkn http://bit.ly/9cEGL0May 31 03:30
DaemonFCif you get the KDE 3.5 discMay 31 03:30
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cubezzzok, I make be on to something hereMay 31 03:30
cubezzzmini-itx EPIA VIA M10000 has mpeg2 decoding in hardwareMay 31 03:31
DaemonFCthey had to patch KDE 3.5.10 heavily I understandMay 31 03:31
DaemonFCso it has many features that 3.5.10 isn't capable ofMay 31 03:31
cubezzzcombine that with WinTV PVR 250 I'll have hardware assisted decoding and encodingMay 31 03:31
DaemonFCKDE 4.x still is not loved by all I supposeMay 31 03:32
DaemonFCI have to agreeMay 31 03:32
DaemonFCI liked KDE 3.5May 31 03:32
cubezzzmeh, I don't like ubuntu thoughMay 31 03:32
cubezzzanything else?May 31 03:32
ender2070DaemonFC - yeah there are crazies everywhereMay 31 03:32
DaemonFCprobablyMay 31 03:32
ender2070ill show you a website full of emMay 31 03:32
DaemonFCI may try out Sidux on old Core 2 Duo PCMay 31 03:32
ender2070http://www.calmira.de/screenshots/index.htmMay 31 03:32
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DaemonFCI hate Ubuntu but Debian doesn't suit me eitherMay 31 03:33
ender2070pick anyMay 31 03:33
DaemonFCbut the packaging system is niceMay 31 03:33
cubezzzok, now we're back to Calmira eh? :)May 31 03:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@rayvelline correction 3 dead so far. this is un-freaking-believable #gaza #israel #flotillaMay 31 03:33
cubezzzcompared to that I'm totally saneMay 31 03:34
ender2070people like to cling to the pastMay 31 03:34
ender2070www.ecomstation.comMay 31 03:34
DaemonFCI may turn the old PC into a HackintoshMay 31 03:34
DaemonFCthe hardware is surprisingly close to some that Apple has shippedMay 31 03:34
cubezzzwell sometimes older is betterMay 31 03:34
ender2070then theres the nuts with amigasMay 31 03:34
ender2070yo, when my graphics card outbenchmarks your entire pc - its too oldMay 31 03:35
DaemonFCwho wants to buy me another LCD monitor?May 31 03:35
DaemonFC:)May 31 03:35
cubezzzAmiga has modern hardware thoughMay 31 03:35
DaemonFCI'm totally awesome, you owe it to meMay 31 03:35
DaemonFCall of youMay 31 03:35
cubezzzif you have the bucksMay 31 03:35
DaemonFC:DMay 31 03:35
ender2070CUDAMay 31 03:35
ender2070it doesnt cost big bucks to get good deals on good shitMay 31 03:36
cubezzzender2070, you know what I want... FOSS bios, open source OS, etc etcMay 31 03:37
ender2070my card probably costs like $100May 31 03:37
cubezzzyou can't get that with most modern hardwareMay 31 03:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@torontostar time2 start coverage of the #Gaza #flotilla. Unarmed civilian aid ships fired on in intl waters by #Israel. Deaths,casualtiesMay 31 03:37
ender2070get a sparc and replace the firmware or somethingMay 31 03:38
ender2070cant you do that with ppc firmwares tooMay 31 03:38
cubezzzwell I'll start with x86 then maybe Sparc or AmigaMay 31 03:38
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ender2070you might get sparc cheap as everyone throws their shit outMay 31 03:39
ender2070lolMay 31 03:39
cubezzzthat is trueMay 31 03:39
ender2070with sun being bought people are probably gonna go with ibmMay 31 03:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@torontostar and on another note. Your web typography hurts my eyes (articles hard to read); sans-serif, spacing not workingMay 31 03:39
ender2070note to qu1j0t3 - sans-serif is a profressional standardMay 31 03:40
cubezzzSparc really isn't that cheap May 31 03:40
cubezzznot compared to x86 stuffMay 31 03:40
ender2070not right nowMay 31 03:40
ender2070it wont be cheaperMay 31 03:40
ender2070it will drop in price but it wont be cheaper than x86May 31 03:41
ender2070you know how much a 'sound card' costs asus for my P5K-E Wifi/AP mobo?May 31 03:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hirsi Ali: #women’s bodies are a battleground for #misogyny in name of #religion http://bit.ly/bVCkmX (many religions-not just islam) #femMay 31 03:41
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cubezzzumm, nopeMay 31 03:41
ender2070i looked up the chip, 0.2 centsMay 31 03:41
cubezzzdon't like the current era of motherboardsMay 31 03:42
cubezzzwith everything built-in and no slots hardlyMay 31 03:42
ender2070everything is done with the ultra fast cpu's you can put inMay 31 03:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@avivao The cynicism of that creep blows my mind. "Get this over with &forgotten so we can go back to obscene,reckless profit." #BP HaywardMay 31 03:42
cubezzzit's better to have stuff done off cpu if possibleMay 31 03:43
cubezzze.g mpeg encoding/decodingMay 31 03:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao Okay. This is nuts. I have to pull myself away from this oilspill shit //come back &check #gaza #flotilla news. World just changed.May 31 03:43
ender2070a video card can do the video stuffMay 31 03:43
ender2070encodingMay 31 03:44
cubezzzyeah but can it decode?May 31 03:44
cubezzzboth are neededMay 31 03:44
ender2070yeahMay 31 03:44
ender2070it really speeds up the time it takes to encode thoughMay 31 03:44
ender2070thats where you notice the differenceMay 31 03:44
cubezzzthe tivo had a 33 mhz cpuMay 31 03:44
cubezzzit must have had special chips to make that possibleMay 31 03:45
cubezzznot saying that tivo was the best, but they sure sold a lot of themMay 31 03:45
ender2070a gpu probablyMay 31 03:45
cubezzzmy ol p3 box is terrible for recording videoMay 31 03:46
cubezzzit's pretty good for playback thoughMay 31 03:47
ender2070did u see that $100 arm9 that probably runs faster than your p3?May 31 03:47
cubezzzwhich one?May 31 03:47
ender2070the android pdaMay 31 03:47
cubezzzok then no I didn'tMay 31 03:48
cubezzzlast thing I checked out was Smart Q for about $250May 31 03:48
cubezzztablet thingMay 31 03:48
cubezzznow I feel like buying a tivo and looking at the chipsMay 31 03:49
ender2070http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/WonderMedia-SmartTouch-tablets/?kc=rssMay 31 03:49
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cubezzzmaybe I could find a picMay 31 03:50
cubezzzyeah that's a lot like a Smart Q only a bit less expensiveMay 31 03:52
ender2070http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2010/05/becoming-fedora-contributor.htmlMay 31 03:52
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cubezzzFedora Classroom? :)May 31 03:54
ender2070yesMay 31 03:56
cubezzzI don't think they would like me talking about fc1 in there thoughMay 31 03:56
cubezzzno one likes old stuffMay 31 03:58
ender2070lolMay 31 03:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Google News has no reports of #israel attack yet. http://bit.ly/a3c6Sz #gaza #flotillaMay 31 04:02
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cubezzzhttp://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/ProductDetail.jsp?id=81May 31 04:04
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cubezzzthis looks promisingMay 31 04:04
cubezzzon ebay for $50May 31 04:06
cubezzz1 gigahertz cpu, but the other chips help with decoding mpeg2May 31 04:09
ender2070i dunnoMay 31 04:19
ender2070i need at least 4 coresMay 31 04:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @polgrim There are over 8,000 viewers watching #Israel's act of #war live: http://www.livestream.com/insaniyardim #flotilla #gazaMay 31 04:19
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cubezzzwhy do you need 4 cores?May 31 04:20
ender2070becauseMay 31 04:21
ender2070actually i need the most coresMay 31 04:21
ender2070i have 4 right nowMay 31 04:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@whisper1111 there should be a holiday honoring all the unarmed peole who get killed trying to do the right thing // 365 days a yearMay 31 04:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Waiting for @georgegalloway to post news on #Israeli attacks on #gaza #flotilla. #ffMay 31 04:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Israeli Navy Alongside Captain. #4wordsbeforedeathMay 31 04:44
DaemonFChmmm, now I have it set up so I never have to budge an inchMay 31 04:45
DaemonFC:PMay 31 04:45
DaemonFCexxxxxxcellentMay 31 04:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Civilians Dead in G A Z A FIotilla #4wordsbeforedeath http://bit.ly/9qqnJ8 http://bit.ly/cqo2BLMay 31 04:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] lsrael Killing Unarmed Civilians #4wordsbeforedeath http://bit.ly/9qqnJ8 http://bit.ly/cqo2BL G A Z A aidFIotillaMay 31 04:47
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DaemonFChttp://www.examiner.com/x-21521-Huntington-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m5d27-Huntington-mayor-may-pull-away-from-firefighter-grantMay 31 04:49
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DaemonFCuggghMay 31 04:49
DaemonFCcan somebody please find a way to recall him?May 31 04:50
DaemonFCI might go down there to voice my disguist at the next city council meetingMay 31 04:51
DaemonFCthey should vote to overrule the mayor on thisMay 31 04:51
DaemonFC:PMay 31 04:51
DaemonFCthey've been very spineless so far thoughMay 31 04:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] MT @georgegalloway Unconfirmed reports dozens injured & 2 dead as #Israel attacks #flotilla in intl waters #fb /thx George, u are true heroMay 31 04:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @thegrumpyowl @DavidForbes @jblewett: "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence indistinguishable from malice." /. on #BP /oldie but goodieMay 31 04:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @edwardvirtually RT @caradox: #CNN Int ticker #flotilla. "2 dead after #IDF intervenes against #Gaza #flotilla". // 'INTERVENES'?!May 31 04:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline #Israel intercepts #Gaza #flotilla: Hamas http://bit.ly/cWa93n #BBC confirms but not mention casualties /unimportant detail??May 31 04:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #4wordsbeforedeath Confirmed lsraeli Navy Killed Civilians in G A Z A Ald FIotilla http://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/15084044816May 31 05:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] more reasons Tzipi Livni + others in #Israel High Command risk arrest when they travel http://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/15084044816May 31 05:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Memorial Day sees civilians being slaughtered on high seas with #US tacit approval? Hooray for humanity. #IsraelMay 31 05:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@TheOilDrum RT @jgrindal #BP #oilspill is industry's Chernobyl. No 1 will evr look @ drilling the same /I totally tiptoe past reactors now!May 31 05:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel High Command may have been too trigger happy to realise how many international journalists and VIPs are on the #flotilla. #gazaMay 31 05:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @georgegalloway RT @lowkeyuk HIT THE STREETS!!! // #fIotilla #lsrael murdered civilians on board. #4wordsbeforedeathMay 31 05:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@eikonos @IsraelMFA u can't defeat terrorist with more terrorism. follow @dalailama and learn to love peace /oh, & also, STOP TELLING LIESMay 31 05:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Fire up the engines of the #ICC. This is why it exists. #Israel #war #crime #piracy #murderMay 31 05:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@medicare2gaza @qu1j0t3 propaganda dose not bring peace // You should know!May 31 05:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@shoq confirmation of #Israel attack by @georgegalloway -- assume you know exactly who he is :) #gaza #flotillaMay 31 05:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@somemuslim RT @JibrilAK610 #BBC: "fighting" bw #IDF &aid ships. How, when only 1 side has weapons? /same lie covers annual carpet bombingsMay 31 05:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@shoq yes it is THE @georgegalloway.May 31 05:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel can't spin this one in #Europe, even if #US has no idea. This is a horrible affront to #Turkey which has 1 foot in #EUMay 31 05:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@superacid it has been suggested that twitter is censoring #flotilla topicMay 31 05:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Memorial Day defiled by lsrael's opening fire on unarmed civilian a1d convoy heading to G A Z A #4wordsbeforedeathMay 31 05:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @tehranweekly @GeorgeGalloway: "one of most dastardly attacks on aid workers in recent times" http://bit.ly/abuy9R #flotilla #p2 cc @shoqMay 31 05:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GeorgeGalloway is moderating his language, since he's in Texas of all places & wants to actually get home to #UK safely. #US #IsraelMay 31 05:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: Copyright New Update Monday May 31st, 2010 - Links And Comments http://bit.ly/aFK0joMay 31 05:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@abo3atef #Flotilla NOT trending on worldwide #TT. Why??May 31 05:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Don't Shoot-I'm Unarmed #4wordsbeforedying RT @SPFTIO civilian passengers murdered by lsrael: 10, 50 injured http://bit.ly/9eHSbOMay 31 05:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo Keep digging.... - Underwater #Oil Plumes Disputed By #BP CEO Tony Hayward http://huff.to/drbUMQ #p2 #oilspillMay 31 05:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kthalps: re: censorship- what happened? MT @edwardvirtually #flotilla story has reached msm sphere. And *shame* on twitter for hasht ...May 31 05:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@a_picazo let's see if canadian media has any balls, now that culprit is on their turf. This is sick! @pmoharper #Israel #gaza #flotillaMay 31 06:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] MT @kthalps "#Israel lovers" who call me "self loathing Jew": blind support of Israel threatens country's existence /more than ANYTHING elseMay 31 06:02
DaemonFCI can't find a DVI to VGA adapter anywhereMay 31 06:08
DaemonFCthose must have been the one thing I've ever thrown outMay 31 06:09
DaemonFC:PMay 31 06:09
DaemonFCFGLRX is so bad that all other hardware being equal, my Geforce 9500GT 512 MB GDDR2 outperforms my ATI RadeonHD 4670 1 GB GDDR3May 31 06:11
DaemonFCby about 25%May 31 06:11
DaemonFCwhereas on Windows, the RadeonHD 4670 is easily three times faster than the GeforceMay 31 06:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo @pmoharper #israel attack 'measured response'; I shd know, I spent $1bln on #G20 security /none more paranoid than the guiltyMay 31 06:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BinaBecker Wondering if Venezuela, Bolivia, etc. will expel Israeli ambassadors over #Gaza #flotilla. // their citizens are on board, tooMay 31 06:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kthalps #4wordsbeforedeath, "my back is broken" were Rachel Corrie's after she was run over by bulldozer in #Israel http://bit.ly/cDH3t8May 31 06:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@kthalps and one of the #flotilla ships is named after Rachel Corrie. Let's remember her and her courage today.May 31 06:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Flotilla still absent from worldwide #TT.May 31 06:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Driveswift RT @sickjew: We bring humanitarian aid. #4wordsbeforedeath /via @NakedAxiom #fIotillaMay 31 06:30
*WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-awayMay 31 06:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'If #Israel were to..harm or detain them, [it] could very well find [itself] in diplomatic disputes with..50 countries' http://bit.ly/d12woUMay 31 06:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A day to remember the bravery of Rachel Corrie and the thousands of others dead or injured in fighting injustice. #FlotillaMay 31 06:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Attacking the unarmed peace Covoy in the middle of the sea. Yet another black spot added to the history of Israeli terrorism.May 31 07:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Attacking the unarmed peace Covoy in the middle of the sea. Yet another black spot added to the history of Israeli terrorism. #Gaza #FreedomMay 31 07:10
cubezzzanyone think KDE 3.5.10 compile on fc1 possible? :)May 31 07:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @JamalDajani: #Israel [ragtag and bobtail] settlers are still harassing Al Jazeera crew and cursing them #flotilla.May 31 07:14
DaemonFCprobablyMay 31 07:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq @robertfreedland precisely why #israel is losing so many american jews. This will be more than PR fiasco //yes, it's a game changerMay 31 07:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@DarthNader RT @cynthiaboaz #Israel's legitimacy is compromised. http://youtu.be/wExyiIoNndc // this insane, outlaw violence is nothing NEWMay 31 07:22
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MinceRhttp://bigeyedeer.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/this-cartoon-is-fundamentally-radical/May 31 07:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] May almighty Allah have mercy on Sheikh #RaedSalah, and help get back on his feet soon. Amin! #flotilla #Gaza #IsraeliTerrorismMay 31 07:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotilla #flotillaMay 31 07:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The #flotilla massacre is a just another evidence that Israeli promises can NEVER be taken for granted. #IsraeliTerrorismMay 31 07:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @ajit8uk: Israel you are evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evil evileth evil murdering pigs pigs pigs. You will pay for this.May 31 07:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @DarthNader: Barghouti: In an hour and a half there will be demonstrations all over the West Bank. #flotillaMay 31 07:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] ManBearPig sighted at the #flotilla zomg!!!!May 31 07:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter I'm going to sound really thick here...I don't know who those people are! More info?May 31 07:46
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] How everyone feels about the oil industry http://ur1.ca/04iblMay 31 07:52
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MinceRDaemonFC: lolMay 31 07:54
DaemonFC:DMay 31 07:55
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khuwatsupMay 31 08:02
khu. . May 31 08:03
khuso why novellMay 31 08:03
DaemonFChmmm, lightning May 31 08:04
DaemonFClighting up the skyMay 31 08:04
cubezzzit's really techrights.com but they haven't changed the irc nameMay 31 08:04
*DaemonFC plays Don't Fear The ReaperMay 31 08:04
DaemonFC:DMay 31 08:04
DaemonFCohhhhhhMay 31 08:06
DaemonFCKorn discography on DVD-AMay 31 08:06
cubezzzwe barely even talk about Novell reallyMay 31 08:06
DaemonFCweeeeee!!!May 31 08:06
schestowitzkhu: hiMay 31 08:07
MinceRactually we do have a #techrights channel :>May 31 08:07
khuhelloMay 31 08:07
schestowitzYeah, but few people know about that channelMay 31 08:08
khuulp, torn between chans May 31 08:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Most States Approve and Fund #Microsoft Indoctrination http://ur1.ca/04ie7 Here they go again, brainwashingMay 31 08:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Pour me online.....May 31 08:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Support Freedom Flotilla, add a #twibbon to your avatar now! - http://twb.ly/bYHWQSMay 31 08:16
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DaemonFCaticonfig --disable-suckhard-mode --crash-compiz-off --fuckwineover-disabled --alpha-transparency-enableMay 31 08:17
*khu adds to autojoinMay 31 08:17
DaemonFCyeehaw that did it :PMay 31 08:17
khuthx for the link to here May 31 08:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP may be unsung heroes http://ur1.ca/04if3May 31 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @iiNet does not support Conroy's #Internet Filter http://bit.ly/9QbKk9 << Aussies take note. Switch to #iiNet! #australia #censorshipMay 31 08:17
khuok good. everyone at techrights is here too May 31 08:18
khuso.. is there a lot of fear in this here room? May 31 08:18
DaemonFCthere's nothing to fear but fear itselfMay 31 08:19
DaemonFC:)May 31 08:19
DaemonFCask not what your ATI card can do for you, ask what you can do to get a GeforceMay 31 08:19
DaemonFC:DMay 31 08:20
khulolMay 31 08:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] This latest Israeli outrage will be swept under the carpet and nobody will be held responsible as always happens. #occupation #PalestineMay 31 08:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GaeMar01 #TonyBlair - what are you doing TODAY about the peace #flotilla attack //RU kidding? that pro-#war f*cker is probably celebratingMay 31 08:20
DaemonFCI allege that they stole code from vesaMay 31 08:21
DaemonFCthe performance is about equalMay 31 08:21
khuwell, no blinkers or head-in-sand here. gonna be a tough start, but i feel, worth stickin around May 31 08:21
DaemonFCCatalyst Control Center on Windows is a .Net appMay 31 08:22
DaemonFCof course I don't install it because I hate useless things loaded in my system trayMay 31 08:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @wildpeeta What wud it take 2 not only trend #flotilla but 2 test whether @Twitter can bring justice via global community Pls RTMay 31 08:22
khuyupMay 31 08:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq #Obama can't react. #AIPAC wouldn't stand for it. // yes! and this exposes the hideous status quo. #flotilla #gaza #israel #crimeMay 31 08:24
khuOmega drivers are not produced for newer OSsMay 31 08:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GaeMar01 #TonyBlair what are YOU doing today about peace #flotilla / #TonyWho? u got the wrong guy. ex-PM is fellow state terrorist. #iraqMay 31 08:25
khui found to my dismay May 31 08:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel navy now setting course to fire upon peaceful flotilla surrounding Deep Horizon.May 31 08:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Driveswift #Israel run by people who stay in power by playing natl security card after fomenting instability //gosh, who else does that?May 31 08:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @joshmull propaganda says #IDF attacked with "knives & axes"-There are cameras, idiots //u can bet they destroyed cameras first, then pplMay 31 08:31
cubezzzwhich ati card exactly?May 31 08:32
cubezzzthe radeon driver in Linux might support itMay 31 08:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] ANNOUNCEMENT TO EVERYONE: Let us get #Flotilla on the Trending Worlwide List. (PLZ RETWEET) #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #FlotillaMay 31 08:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #Flotilla #FlotillaMay 31 08:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] hm, interesting, #Israil is in #TT (i.e. it's not in word block list). But not #gaza or #flotilla. @Twitter please explain your #censorship.May 31 08:35
khuwill the governemts track me when i visit techrights? May 31 08:36
khunever mind that i'm in this irc :S May 31 08:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @Omar_S_Hafez #Flotilla and #Gaza are clearly blocked from #TTMay 31 08:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Let's get the #Flotilla trending everyone! Plz, RETWEET!May 31 08:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Is it just me or has the Kin One/Two just not been pushed to the masses enough? Are we to see another Zune episode? #microsoft #zune #kinMay 31 08:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 It's expected. But why have to try nevertheless.May 31 08:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and what exactly is the Kin offering thats unique? A phone that looks like a bar of soap? Where's its selling point? #zune #kin #microsoftMay 31 08:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] U. of Arizona Enters Microsoft Fog; Steve Ballmer Lobbies Malaysian Prime Minister to Enter Microsoft’s 'CLoud' Too http://ur1.ca/04ijnMay 31 08:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Mondoweiss RT @Anne2Gaza ship(s) w/ the dead & wounded have bn towed 2 Haifa but no journalists R allowed near #flotilla //gee, wonder whyMay 31 08:41
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khuelsewhere on Freenode.....May 31 08:42
khu[05:04:05] <@xxxxxxxxxxxx> (Random Quote) WE ARE MICROSOFT. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.May 31 08:42
khu3.5 hours ago May 31 08:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel will destroy every piece of recording equipment on board the ships before anyone else gets access.May 31 08:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Will Israel do the same thing again to the next aid ship? There is bound to be another aid ship. #occupation #PalestineMay 31 08:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] ...but leaving journalists, VIPs, & 800 witnesses alive leads to a problem for #Israel that will manifest in The Hague #gaza #flotilla #iccMay 31 08:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Aftermath of the #gaza #flotilla attack will lead 2 #Europe's finest hour since Nuremberg (Since we failed utterly to stop, & punish, #Iraq)May 31 08:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ChicaLolita "spokesman: convoy headed to Gaza was violation of intl law" http://bit.ly/bREfZS //shooting unarmed ppl in intl waters isn't?May 31 08:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @Omar_S_Hafez Thanks for trying, friend. :)May 31 08:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 Huh? :D Well. For you information, I'm Palestinian, and Muslim too. :)May 31 08:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Israil is trending bc lsrael has killed civilians in unarmed aid convoy to G a z a, & @twitter blocks relevant tags #fyi #4wordsbeforedeathMay 31 08:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 So it would be a shame if I don't try.May 31 08:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @Omar_S_Hafez please be sure that many like me share some of yr outrage. This is world changing #crime. This time there will be consequencesMay 31 08:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @Omar_S_Hafez as an overprivileged western liberal, I can only *imagine* what you must feel.May 31 08:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 Yup. Thank you very much for your support my friend.May 31 08:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #Twitter has just proven that it's a immoral website! I'm off to #Identica!May 31 09:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Spanish Foreign Ministry summoned Israel's ambassador after the attack on the Freedom #FlotillaMay 31 09:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Live blog of aftermath of Israel's attack on Gaza flotilla. http://is.gd/cwCXe #occupation #flotilla #Palestine #GazaMay 31 09:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @djbailey RT @kakbik: RT @AHegazy: Israel, your propaganda won't work anymore in this new media age #flotilla #FreedomFlotillaMay 31 09:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @djbailey RT @ilter: RT @Portakal: Twitter should not censor #FlotillaMay 31 09:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Israeli relations with Turkey a few years back were quite good, they have deteriorated recently, this flotilla attack is a very bad set backMay 31 09:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For those of you old enough to remember......happier computing times. #amiga http://twitpic.com/1sp8mlMay 31 09:21
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khuhmm :SMay 31 09:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Criticised Again for Monopolising Research http://ur1.ca/04iqr #monopoly #health #patentsMay 31 09:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] REVIEW: Amiga Demos Volume 1 (DVD-5) http://tinyurl.com/38r9z7g #amiga #dvd #free #shareMay 31 09:35
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why worry about another 9/11 when our terrorists are domestic? http://ur1.ca/04irmMay 31 09:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Where Gates Wealth Goes http://ur1.ca/04iu9 #McDonalds #CocaCola #Caterpillar #Exxon #BP #WalMartMay 31 10:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Israel is again very quick with a PR offensive. The BBC does it's usual rubbish reporting job ex Israeli commando is being interviewed now.May 31 10:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pressure or Petition the Gates Foundation to Stop Investing in BP http://ur1.ca/04iwq yes, it invests in BPMay 31 10:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ ddowza Why Israil is trending & #flotilla is not - http://bit.ly/aMhkwU - Twitter blocking #flotilla #Censorship #freedomFlotillaMay 31 10:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I invite all my friends to switch to #Identica. The Twitter team is a shameless insolent group of ppl. They don't support Freedom of Speech!May 31 10:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Everyone should switch to #Identica. The Twitter team are a shameless group of ppl! #TwitterFAIL [Plz, Retweet!]May 31 10:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #FreedomFlotilla. Let us all trend that! [Please retweet]May 31 10:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #Identica FTW! Twitter To HELL! #FreedomFlotillaMay 31 10:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @twitterfails RT @ThundarKitteh: @Twitter is censoring the #gaza and #flotilla hashtags, but allowing #Israil?! Guess Twitter ha... h ...May 31 10:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @twitterfails @JawazSafar Nobody knows yet. المعلومات متضاربة والاعلام الاسرائيلي هو المسيطر.. لا احد يملك معلومات أكيده عن حالت... h ...May 31 10:48
DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364338,00.aspMay 31 10:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GaeMar01 Where is #TonyBlair ?Mediator in #Israel-Palestinian conflict /sorry,have to laugh. Tony killing arabs in #iraq. This role a JOKEMay 31 10:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Searching for "flotilla" doesn't even work! Switch to #Identica everyone! #TwitterFAILS!! [Please, RETWEET!]May 31 10:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tax-Free Financial Gain at #Microsoft Assisted by Governor Gregoire http://ur1.ca/04j3s #washingtonMay 31 10:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT: @iRevolt: The Israeli ambassador has been summoned in Ireland [via @BrandonBMCCK]May 31 11:07
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ex-Ageia CEO/Nvidia CUDA project manager joins #AMD to run Fusion http://ur1.ca/04j7uMay 31 11:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Is there any evidence at all that Twitter censors any #tags if there is please tell me #twittercensorMay 31 11:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera I think @omar_s_hafez has evidenceMay 31 11:31
cubezzzwell I tried the radeon 7000 :-/May 31 11:32
cubezzzit was rather slowMay 31 11:32
Diablo-D3its a r100May 31 11:33
Diablo-D3what do you expectMay 31 11:33
cubezzz3d on blockout was fine, flash was turtle slowMay 31 11:33
Diablo-D3in linux?May 31 11:33
cubezzzyesMay 31 11:33
Diablo-D3has nothing to do with the radeonMay 31 11:33
Diablo-D3I have a 4850 on fglrx, flash is still slowMay 31 11:33
Diablo-D3flash uses zero techniques to accelerate anythingMay 31 11:33
Diablo-D3no 3D, no 2D, no xv, no nothingMay 31 11:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #BBC and #Netflix Enter Microsoft’s #DRM http://ur1.ca/04jba tools by which a monopoly abuser gains more powerMay 31 11:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Evidence about what?May 31 11:33
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cubezzzthe sis card did fine on flash thoughMay 31 11:33
cubezzzjust tried itMay 31 11:34
Diablo-D3flash on linux just sucksMay 31 11:34
Diablo-D3btw, if you're using the Xorg radeon drivers, make sure you have EXA onMay 31 11:34
cubezzzit doesn't make any sense that the radeon 7000 would be way slower than the sis in flash May 31 11:34
Diablo-D3the radeon driver does not provide useful XAAMay 31 11:34
Diablo-D3and X doesnt default to EXA on yetMay 31 11:35
cubezzzI'll have to experiment with it later onMay 31 11:35
Diablo-D3I have a r300 in my powerbookMay 31 11:35
cubezzzis sis driver open source?May 31 11:35
Diablo-D3I have to turn EXA on and KMS (until they fix 3D init with KMS) offMay 31 11:35
cubezzzit was unuseably slow on flash (radeon 7000)May 31 11:36
cubezzzquite good on sisMay 31 11:36
cubezzzbit of a mystery May 31 11:36
Diablo-D3its EXA thenMay 31 11:37
Diablo-D3EXA can use accelerated 2D tile upload, XAA cantMay 31 11:37
cubezzzthere's no xorg.conf or anything May 31 11:37
Diablo-D3you have to make oneMay 31 11:37
cubezzzjust popped in the cardMay 31 11:37
cubezzzit's weird, it was actually good on 3d stuffMay 31 11:38
cubezzzterrible on 2dMay 31 11:38
Diablo-D3open /etc/X11/xorg.confMay 31 11:38
Diablo-D3addMay 31 11:38
Diablo-D3Section "Device"May 31 11:38
Diablo-D3Identifier"Configured Video Device"May 31 11:38
Diablo-D3  Driver "radeon"May 31 11:38
Diablo-D3  Option  "AccelMethod" "exa"May 31 11:38
Diablo-D3EndSectionMay 31 11:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Flotilla search does not work for me either. Has anyone asked twitter for an explanation? Overload perhaps? #twittercensorMay 31 11:38
Diablo-D3and save itMay 31 11:38
cubezzzok, I never tried thatMay 31 11:39
cubezzzit was some other thing XAA I thinkMay 31 11:39
cubezzzI'll try it later todayMay 31 11:39
Diablo-D3yes, and as I said, XAA on radeon is incompleteMay 31 11:39
Diablo-D3EXA is the replacement for XAAMay 31 11:39
Diablo-D3new drivers are not getting anything but the most minimal XAA supportMay 31 11:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Check out Carlos Lattuf's illustration on the #FreedomFlotilla massacre: http://is.gd/cwKqwMay 31 11:39
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cubezzzummmMay 31 11:40
cubezzzthis is an old card though :)May 31 11:40
Diablo-D3so?May 31 11:40
cubezzzit had to be old for this motherboard project I'm working onMay 31 11:41
Diablo-D3the radeon driver supports all radeonsMay 31 11:41
cubezzzwell if XAA is old and the card is old they should work togetherMay 31 11:41
Diablo-D3wrongMay 31 11:41
Diablo-D3the radeon driver is brand newMay 31 11:41
Diablo-D3its been rewritten from the ground up to support EXA and DRI2 and shitMay 31 11:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Finally!! The #freedomflotilla tag is trending worldwide!! Greetings everyone!May 31 11:41
cubezzzok, it must be an xorg thingMay 31 11:42
DaemonFCand I'm backMay 31 11:42
cubezzzI wonder if it would work better on fc1 or something olderMay 31 11:42
DaemonFCwith a mocha cappucino slushie and a 44 ounce diet mountain dewMay 31 11:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Congratulations everyone for trending #freedomflotilla! Keep it up!May 31 11:42
Diablo-D3its not an "xorg" thing in that senseMay 31 11:43
DaemonFCXAA is the fast one right?May 31 11:43
Diablo-D3XAA is like, 15 years oldMay 31 11:43
cubezzzXFree86 Acceleration ArchitectureMay 31 11:43
DaemonFCEXA is the slow shiit bug-ridden oneMay 31 11:43
Diablo-D3it was designed around how cards worked thenMay 31 11:43
DaemonFC*shittyMay 31 11:43
Diablo-D3its a waste of time to support on _any_ radeon, even R100sMay 31 11:43
cubezzzhrmmmMay 31 11:43
Diablo-D3EXA is designed around how modern hardware worksMay 31 11:43
DaemonFCoh, I had it backwards thenMay 31 11:43
DaemonFCyeah, even Windows has finally managed to get its video driver architecture under some kind of controlMay 31 11:44
cubezzzok, I'm building a foss box, coreboot the worksMay 31 11:44
cubezzzit's p3 450 slot 1May 31 11:44
DaemonFCWDDM 1.1 and WARPMay 31 11:44
cubezzzwhat video card should I use with that?May 31 11:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Gaza Flotilla and #FreeFlotilla are now rushing up the the trending list! Let's keep tweeting, everyone! :DMay 31 11:44
Diablo-D3anything you want, reallyMay 31 11:45
DaemonFCbeats the hell out of the old driver modelMay 31 11:45
cubezzzAGP 2X I think...May 31 11:45
Diablo-D3in my p3 550 I had a 8500May 31 11:45
Diablo-D3but yeah, cubezzz May 31 11:45
cubezzzok, 8500 is that radeon too right?May 31 11:45
Diablo-D3XAA is so fucking fucked upMay 31 11:45
Diablo-D3yeah, radeon 8500, its an r200May 31 11:45
DaemonFCyes, the Linux graphics situation is completely fucked overMay 31 11:46
cubezzzI feel confused, that's for sure :)May 31 11:46
DaemonFCwell, rather, the X.org sideMay 31 11:46
DaemonFCthe Linux side is under controlMay 31 11:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @AhmadFahmy: Newton's revised laws of motion: Every action has a reaction unless you're an Arab #freedomflotilla Gaza flotillaMay 31 11:46
DaemonFCugghMay 31 11:47
DaemonFCcat thinks I have ice creamMay 31 11:47
Diablo-D3cubezzz: XAA was designed around what VESA 1.0 cards could doMay 31 11:47
DaemonFCwon't leave me aloneMay 31 11:47
DaemonFCewwwwMay 31 11:47
Diablo-D3it wasnt acceleration at all, reallyMay 31 11:47
DaemonFCthat's badMay 31 11:47
Diablo-D3EXA is designed around modern 2D enginesMay 31 11:47
cubezzzok, no XAA on this XF86 boxMay 31 11:47
cubezzzand I can do flash OKMay 31 11:48
cubezzznot great, but OKMay 31 11:48
DaemonFCUbuntu used XFree86 on 4.10May 31 11:48
cubezzz3d tooMay 31 11:48
DaemonFC:PMay 31 11:48
Diablo-D3you should be running the newest X, btwMay 31 11:48
DaemonFCwell, you should be running new everything ideallyMay 31 11:48
DaemonFCor at least new-ishMay 31 11:48
cubezzzwell the other box is Fedora 12, I assume it's pretty newMay 31 11:49
Diablo-D313 just came out.May 31 11:49
DaemonFCit's not like it costs you anything to upgradeMay 31 11:49
cubezzzyeah but I want open source video driver and corebootMay 31 11:49
cubezzzI can't just buy whatever and expect that to all workMay 31 11:49
Diablo-D3huh?May 31 11:49
DaemonFCWas it Jamie Zawinski that said "Linux is only free if your time is worthless"?May 31 11:49
cubezzzI'm using coreboot with seabiosMay 31 11:50
DaemonFCthen he proceeds to run everything at he DNA Lounge on LinuxMay 31 11:50
DaemonFC:PMay 31 11:50
Diablo-D3radeon is an open source driverMay 31 11:50
cubezzzright... but I need coreboot supported motherboard tooMay 31 11:50
Diablo-D3but what does this have to do with the video card?May 31 11:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @nmoawad: #freedomflotilla is trending! oh.. so is Gaza flotilla.. I guess @twitter succumbedMay 31 11:50
cubezzzthe video card has to work with the motherboard May 31 11:51
Diablo-D3yes, which is any AGP cardMay 31 11:51
cubezzznoMay 31 11:51
Diablo-D3yes.May 31 11:51
cubezzzit's got to be 2x compatible tooMay 31 11:51
Diablo-D3yes, which is any 4x, 2x, or 1x card.May 31 11:51
cubezzzok, well whatever is open and fast and works goodMay 31 11:52
DaemonFCDiablo-D3, Is there any way to make FGLRX at least not suck as hard?May 31 11:52
cubezzzI don't think this radeon 7000 was a good ideaMay 31 11:52
Diablo-D3its not a _bad_ ideaMay 31 11:52
Diablo-D32D performance is more than enough of what you needMay 31 11:52
Diablo-D3you just need to enable EXAMay 31 11:53
cubezzzok, well good then :)May 31 11:53
cubezzzI should have all the parts soonMay 31 11:53
DaemonFCFGLRX has really bad EXA supportMay 31 11:53
DaemonFCorders of magnitude slower than "radeon"May 31 11:53
cubezzzfglrx is out of the question anywaysMay 31 11:53
Diablo-D3well duhMay 31 11:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Twitter help does not work either, so how do you ask Twitter if they censor #tags? #twittercensorMay 31 11:53
Diablo-D3fglrx doesnt support cards that oldMay 31 11:54
Diablo-D3remember, I run radeon on my powerbook tooMay 31 11:54
DaemonFCold FGLRX doesMay 31 11:54
Diablo-D3which has a r300 chipMay 31 11:54
DaemonFCbut that traps you on an unsupported distro probablyMay 31 11:54
cubezzzactually a newer AGP card might not even be much fasterMay 31 11:54
cubezzzon an old p3 450 cpuMay 31 11:54
DaemonFCwho the hell actually bought a board with AGP?May 31 11:54
DaemonFCI mean, ever?May 31 11:54
cubezzzI have a house full of themMay 31 11:55
Diablo-D3well like I said, I had a 8500 in my p3 550May 31 11:55
DaemonFCgood way to make the card more expensive for no reasonMay 31 11:55
Diablo-D3theres not going to be that huge of a differenceMay 31 11:55
Diablo-D33D performance on either is too slow to useMay 31 11:55
DaemonFCanyway, if you're talking r100, then the FOSS drivers support it better than FGLRX ever did most likelyMay 31 11:55
cubezzzok, well I didn't want fglrx anywayMay 31 11:56
cubezzzkind of defeats the purpose of the projectMay 31 11:56
DaemonFCFGLRX is the Ford Pinto of driversMay 31 11:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #freedomflotilla is now the second most trending tag! Gaza flotilla the third. Keep tweeting ppl!May 31 11:56
Diablo-D3you only need it on... cards it still supports, reallyMay 31 11:57
Diablo-D3you dont need it on r1/2/3/400May 31 11:57
DaemonFCit's still godawful on any cardMay 31 11:57
DaemonFC:)May 31 11:57
Diablo-D3although mesa doesnt have glsl support in mainline yetMay 31 11:57
DaemonFCif the FOSS driver stack ever supports the R700 to any meaningful extent...May 31 11:58
DaemonFCyeahMay 31 11:58
DaemonFCI mean, the stuff it does support jsut blows FGLRX out of the waterMay 31 11:58
DaemonFCbut there's lots of stuff I need that it doesn't haveMay 31 11:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] #freedomflotilla now tops the #TT list! Great work folks!! :D Let's keep it there now! :-)May 31 11:58
DaemonFCthey're just now bothering to write a Gallium3d driver that supports my cardMay 31 11:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @Ayman Khateeb: YES YES ... it is !!! RT @JawazSafar: #FreedomFlotilla is trending FIRST! Gaza Flotilla is 2nd!May 31 12:00
cubezzzhuh there's also UXAMay 31 12:01
cubezzzand EXA is called a "stop-gap measure"May 31 12:01
Diablo-D3UXA is just EXA for DRI2May 31 12:02
Diablo-D3EXA is not a stop gap measure in that senseMay 31 12:02
Diablo-D3DRI2/Gallium3D makes hardware accessable to any API directlyMay 31 12:02
Diablo-D3EXA has to go through another layer to access hardwareMay 31 12:03
Diablo-D3UXA is Gallium nativeMay 31 12:03
Diablo-D3its otherwise the same shit and performs the sameMay 31 12:03
Diablo-D3UXA is also not widely supportedMay 31 12:03
Diablo-D3it also may not make sense on all targetsMay 31 12:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @ AmerSweidan: #freedomflotilla trending number 1 in twitter! awesome!May 31 12:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Let's keep tweeting everyone! #freedomflotilla Gaza flotilla.May 31 12:03
Diablo-D3cards that still have actual 2D engines should continue to use EXAMay 31 12:04
Diablo-D3R500/600/700/800 have no 2D engineMay 31 12:04
Diablo-D3anything earlier doesMay 31 12:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez I don't disagree with you, but you're flooding the IRC channel with the same topicMay 31 12:05
cubezzzI think this SIS driver is closed sourceMay 31 12:06
cubezzzbetter get some sleepMay 31 12:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Oh. I'm sorry. I totally 4got about the IRC channel. You can remove me name from the list. Temporarily, at least.May 31 12:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz @Omar_S_Hafez sorry. I totally 4got about IRC channel. You can remove me name from the list. Temporarily // same here. outragedMay 31 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] But what about the flotilla and ManBearPig? I'm totally cereal!!!!May 31 12:09
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9wmczxnT3cMay 31 12:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Finally Admits Numbers of Vulnerabilities it Reports Are Fake http://ur1.ca/04jn7 #fud #redhat #pr #securityMay 31 12:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@scottEweinberg #Obama would need nine terms to fix the damage of the #Bush es //wow! years of apolitical tweets & u hit it out of the parkMay 31 12:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 @omar_s_hafez thanks. it's a very important subject. I don't want to omit, but also, we got like 50+ tweets about it (repetition)May 31 12:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Twitter do not make this easy to find so use it and ask them about censorship http://help.twitter.com/requests/new #twittercensorMay 31 12:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @ schestowitz @qu1j0t3 @omar_s_hafez thanks. very important subject. I don't want to omit, but also //totally understood, sorry 4 impactMay 31 12:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz @qu1j0t3 @omar_s_hafez thanks. very important subject. I don't want to omit, but also //totally understood, sorry 4 impactMay 31 12:24
DaemonFCIs it just me or have wireless keyboards and mice gotten better about battery life?May 31 12:31
DaemonFCI've been using wired for years cause the older wireless would suck batteries down in hours :PMay 31 12:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] #twittercensor related ticket has been filed with twitter, let us wait and see if there is reasonable explanation for #flotilla disappearingMay 31 12:32
DaemonFCI have a set of rechargablesMay 31 12:33
DaemonFCthink I'll just use themMay 31 12:33
DaemonFCthe manual "recommends" alkaline, but that would get expensive to say nothing of the environmental impact May 31 12:34
DaemonFC:PMay 31 12:34
DaemonFCthe way I use my PC, I'd go through 4 batteries per dayMay 31 12:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and GOP (Republicans) Collaborate on Site, Taxpayers Pay for Microsoft to Keep and Restrict Access to Data http://ur1.ca/04jrkMay 31 12:40
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schestowitzDaemonFC: laptop?May 31 12:41
DaemonFCschestowitz, mouse/keyboardMay 31 12:41
schestowitzwth?May 31 12:41
schestowitzWhy use wireless at home?May 31 12:41
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DaemonFCthey seem to like to pack wireless ones in with every PC nowMay 31 12:42
schestowitzThat's just bad for the envMay 31 12:42
schestowitzPeople don't even dispose of batteries properlyMay 31 12:42
schestowitzAnd even if they are binned for recycling, that still leaves a lot of messMay 31 12:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ggreenwald Israeli raid: http://is.gd/cwMyN 'only American protection of #Israel...permits the Israelis to engage in conduct like this'May 31 12:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz, what about using rechargable batteries?May 31 12:46
oiaohmrechargable batteries have to be recycled at some point DaemonFCMay 31 12:46
oiaohmMost of them don't last for ever.May 31 12:47
oiaohmSo far we have no battery that we use that droped in land fill is safe.May 31 12:51
oiaohmOk no common battery we use.May 31 12:52
oiaohmLiquid salt battieres would be basically safe to drop in land fill.May 31 12:52
MinceRDaemonFC: jwz has become a crApple cultist, afaikMay 31 12:53
DaemonFCMinceR, which is funnyMay 31 12:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@foreignoffice statement on #gaza #flotilla deplores loss of life & urges restraint http://ow.ly/1S0Bk // RESTRAINT? ON WHICH SIDE?May 31 12:53
DaemonFCseeing as how he didn't use OS X on anything he uses professionallyMay 31 12:54
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DaemonFCI mean, if you're going to preach that something is the best, you should at least use it on something that's not your own personal toyMay 31 12:54
MinceRindeedMay 31 12:54
MinceRbut then, crApple cultists were never famous for being bright or consistentMay 31 12:55
DaemonFCOS X is the best even though I can't use it to do anything at the DNA LoungeMay 31 12:56
oiaohmOS X I have not found too bad.May 31 12:56
DaemonFCIn fact, I'm even having trouble with Ubuntu, can anyone help me out here?May 31 12:56
DaemonFC:)May 31 12:56
DaemonFCtrue storyMay 31 12:56
oiaohmPrice tag I have a issue with.May 31 12:56
oiaohmSad but true OS X machines are way more stable than Windows ones.May 31 12:56
oiaohmBut its not hard to be more stable than windows.May 31 12:57
DaemonFCMinceR, For a programmer who formerly worked at Netscape and the Mozilla Foundation.....May 31 12:57
DaemonFCyou'd expect him to figure some things out himselfMay 31 12:57
DaemonFCI get the distinct impression you could hand the guy an etch a sketch and tell him that you hold it upside down and shake it to rebootMay 31 12:57
DaemonFC:)May 31 12:57
oiaohmDon't use Ubuntu seams to help a lot.May 31 12:57
DaemonFCfrom some of his postsMay 31 12:57
DaemonFChe just doesn't impress meMay 31 12:58
MinceRoiaohm: everything in osx that doesn't suck they've lifted from FLOSS projectMay 31 12:58
MinceRthen they put an useless crap GUI on top and sell it for a lot of moneyMay 31 12:58
DaemonFCI've figured out solutions to some of the problems he's been stumped byMay 31 12:58
MinceRoh, and some DRMMay 31 12:58
MinceRand crippled hw supportMay 31 12:58
MinceRs/ject$/jects/May 31 12:58
DaemonFCOS X is slowMay 31 12:59
DaemonFCreal slowMay 31 12:59
oiaohmPrice vs power is my biggest problem with OS X.May 31 12:59
oiaohmSupprisingly not as slow as you think DaemonFCMay 31 12:59
MinceRyeah -- the former being positive and the latter being negativeMay 31 12:59
DaemonFCWindows Vista is warp factor 10 in comparison to OS XMay 31 12:59
DaemonFCon the same hardwareMay 31 12:59
MinceRnot as slow if you put an overpriced and overpowered PC under the plain desktop, right? :>May 31 12:59
oiaohmOS X does not bias.  DaemonFCMay 31 13:00
oiaohmVista Does.May 31 13:00
MinceRvista is too slow?May 31 13:00
oiaohmIe active window under Windows gets more cpu time.May 31 13:00
MinceRi meanMay 31 13:00
MinceRvista is too fast?May 31 13:00
MinceRgnu/linux doesn't do such cheats and still beats bothMay 31 13:00
oiaohmNo there are still areas where Linux is weak.May 31 13:00
DaemonFCVista is freaking fast compared to OS XMay 31 13:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@AsemGH And Now, you still would believe that #Israel wants The peace ?!! #freedomflotilla // few ever believed thatMay 31 13:00
oiaohmDepends on what you are running  DaemonFCMay 31 13:01
DaemonFCit's why I'm surprised Apple allows you to dual boot with WindowsMay 31 13:01
oiaohmIf you are running lot of background processors.May 31 13:01
oiaohmWindows runs into hell.May 31 13:01
oiaohmOS X does not.May 31 13:01
DaemonFCyou'd think the Mac users would boot to Windows and notice how much faster it isMay 31 13:01
oiaohmNeither does Linux.May 31 13:01
DaemonFCApple probably cripples Windows with their driver packMay 31 13:01
oiaohmReason why OS X and Linux are more common in render farms.May 31 13:02
DaemonFCso it's as slow as OS XMay 31 13:02
DaemonFCthat's just a hunchMay 31 13:02
oiaohmNop DaemonFCMay 31 13:02
oiaohmBoth OS's run differently DaemonFCMay 31 13:02
MinceRDaemonFC: mac users wouldn'tMay 31 13:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BreakingNews Update: #US is 'working to understand circumstances' of deadly raid on #Gaza aid ships //LOL! = fabricating justificationsMay 31 13:02
MinceRthey lack higher brain functions.May 31 13:03
oiaohmVista can appear faster.May 31 13:03
oiaohmVideo processing where you end up using multiable programs Vista ends up way slower.May 31 13:03
DaemonFCI was joking when Vista came out that the new dual core CPUs were so you could have one core left to run your applications while all the DRM ran on the second oneMay 31 13:03
DaemonFC:PMay 31 13:03
DaemonFCbut that's not far from the truth reallyMay 31 13:03
oiaohmThere is a issue with OS XMay 31 13:03
MinceRDaemonFC: and that applies to both winblows and osxMay 31 13:03
oiaohm2gb of memory for processes.May 31 13:04
oiaohmLinux does not have that limitation.May 31 13:04
oiaohmOk not that low.May 31 13:04
DaemonFCI noticed that Windows 7 is much less piggish than VistaMay 31 13:04
DaemonFCin a number of waysMay 31 13:04
oiaohmHave you had to join Windows 7 to a network yet.May 31 13:04
oiaohmNice asshole to make network drives work.May 31 13:05
DaemonFCI even managed to run it pretty well on an old Athlon64 3200+ with 2 GB of RAM and a Geforce 7600GTMay 31 13:05
oiaohmYou have to manually set a reg key.May 31 13:05
DaemonFCVista was slow as hell on thereMay 31 13:05
oiaohmVista and XP join to network auto set the key.May 31 13:05
oiaohmHave see a screwed up 7 yet.May 31 13:06
oiaohmWhere someone right clicked on a link and went to open with and selected another program.May 31 13:06
oiaohmAnd it become default for all .lnk files.May 31 13:06
DaemonFChmmmMay 31 13:06
oiaohm7 has teeth.May 31 13:06
DaemonFCthat could be a funny prankMay 31 13:06
oiaohmHard to reverse by the way.May 31 13:07
oiaohmNo graphical way.May 31 13:07
oiaohmYou have to use a reg file.May 31 13:07
DaemonFCset it to open with a batch file set to open 100 web browser windowsMay 31 13:07
DaemonFC:DMay 31 13:07
oiaohm100 come on last time I did 2000May 31 13:07
oiaohmYes don't do that on a XP with only 128 megs of ramMay 31 13:08
oiaohmDoes not turn out well.May 31 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] First #freedomflotilla ship reaches Ashdod harbor. Damn! :-(May 31 13:09
schestowitzMay 31 13:11
schestowitz[12:46] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, what about using rechargable batteries?May 31 13:11
schestowitzYou said you weren't using thoseMay 31 13:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #ebz The Twitterspamgame causes your online RPG to spam your friends with ads disguised as adverts ... stop it, will you? Thanks.May 31 13:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #ebz The Twitterspamgame causes your online RPG to spam your friends with ads disguised as tweets ... stop it, will you? Thanks.May 31 13:14
DaemonFCI just called and cancelled the Starz and Shotime packs before my trial runs outMay 31 13:18
DaemonFCthey really love to stick you with "free trials" hoping you won't notice that they ran out and you're paying for something you don't even watchMay 31 13:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@chonabo There is no way #Israel can evade the judgment of the #ICC; 600 eyewitnesses surviveMay 31 13:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@scottEweinberg Wouldn't it be hilarious of a film dropped literally 100% in its second weekend? //candidates: Sex And The City 2; Kick AssMay 31 13:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and x86 stakeholders are falling behind mobile device kings like #ARM and wonderful platforms like #Linux http://ur1.ca/04jzgMay 31 13:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jdub Thank you for giving @corybernardi a well-deserved spanking, @MaxMcKew. #qanda // Bernardi is a gold plated dickhead. That is all.May 31 13:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@jilliancyork Israel claims activists shot; NYT publishes it as if it were true. http://nyti.ms/cWfowz // Yeah. & there were #WMD in #IraqMay 31 13:34
TechrightsTitle: At Least 10 Are Killed as Israel Halts Flotilla With Gaza Aid - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 75.36 KBMay 31 13:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jilliancyork #Israel claims activists shot; #NYT publishes it // No weapons on board. 9 ships of peaceful anti-war civilians. capisce?May 31 13:36
DaemonFCheh, I can order Chinese channelsMay 31 13:39
DaemonFC:PMay 31 13:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jilliancyork I'm seeing some reports flotilla tried to buy yellowcake from Niger delta.May 31 13:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @georgegalloway Israel...will prosecute convoy members who "attacked" its soldiers #gaza #flotilla //this is why i get déjà vu re: #IraqMay 31 13:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jilliancyork stopped reading #NYT in #Iraq days. I know what they r. Friedman is offensive enough. #IDF press releases there: no surpriseMay 31 13:48
DaemonFChttp://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49998-hurt-locker-producer-sues-5000-bittorerent-usersMay 31 13:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@SherineT PM Netanyahu expresses "full backing" behind Army actions // Good. This will BURY him. #freedomFlotillaMay 31 13:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@jilliancyork interestingly, #USSLiberty survivors are on the #freedomFlotilla. *That's* courage.May 31 13:50
MinceRthe yellowcake is a lie?May 31 13:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jilliancyork Dear #US Government: Cut #Israel's umbilical cord. They've obviously gone rogue. // and make it retrospective. 50 yrs.May 31 13:52
DaemonFCMinceR, The British MI-5 agency gave this informationMay 31 13:54
DaemonFCthey've never mislead anyoneMay 31 13:54
DaemonFC:)May 31 13:54
MinceRto follow up that joke/reference,May 31 13:54
MinceRThat's crazy! The government doesn't lie to people!May 31 13:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GaeMar01 RT @KathViner Surprised NickClegg hasn't said anything abt flotilla attacks //today is when we find out who has any balls at allMay 31 13:55
DaemonFChttp://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49998-hurt-locker-producer-sues-5000-bittorerent-usersMay 31 13:56
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DaemonFCfunnyMay 31 13:56
DaemonFCerrrMay 31 13:56
DaemonFCdammitMay 31 13:56
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/197618/woman_sues_google_for_bad_directions.htmlMay 31 13:56
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schestowitzHeheMay 31 13:56
schestowitzI remember one suing a company for guiding him off a cliff or somethingMay 31 13:57
schestowitzAs if he should drive with his eyes shut and just trust GPSMay 31 13:57
DaemonFC"This warning does not show up in PDA's and cell phones, however. I suppose Google figured that people who are smart enough to use Blackberries are probably also smart enough to not walk directly into the middle of traffic."May 31 13:58
DaemonFCHAHA!!!May 31 13:58
DaemonFC:DMay 31 13:58
MinceRlolMay 31 13:58
MinceRso what does google do about those who are stupid enough to use hypePhones?May 31 13:58
DaemonFCMinceR, Tells them to walk off a cliffMay 31 13:59
MinceRlolMay 31 13:59
DaemonFCthey obeyMay 31 13:59
DaemonFCno survivors to sueMay 31 13:59
MinceRthat's a great idea, actuallyMay 31 13:59
MinceRwe should make sure they won't get into trouble for thatMay 31 13:59
DaemonFCMinceR, "Walk into Mexico, continue 10 miles into open desert, stop to ask strangers with AK-47s and anti-tank missile launchers for some waterMay 31 14:00
MinceRlolMay 31 14:01
DaemonFC"If still alive, turn left, walk 500 feet, smack your head into a cactus, repeatedly"May 31 14:01
MinceRdo they have those in Mexico?May 31 14:01
MinceRstrangers with AK-47s and AT missile launchers, not cactiMay 31 14:01
DaemonFCsureMay 31 14:01
DaemonFCthe drug cartels are armed to the teethMay 31 14:01
MinceRicMay 31 14:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] For all those who thought twitter was censoring "flotilla" please read this article. http://is.gd/cwRFI #twittercensorMay 31 14:01
TechrightsTitle:  Did Twitter censor the #flotilla hashtag following the Israel attack? | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 105.63 KBMay 31 14:02
DaemonFCthe Mexican Army is having trouble engaging them in firefightsMay 31 14:02
DaemonFCalso, they bribe all the local policeMay 31 14:02
DaemonFCso the first thing the army does when they enter a town is disarm all the police officersMay 31 14:02
DaemonFCso they don't get shot in the back :DMay 31 14:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @glynmoody #china now has second-fastest supercomputer in the world; runs #Linux (of course) - http://bit.ly/bBZRlJ #china #hpcMay 31 14:03
DaemonFCMinceR, Since 2006, there have been over 4,000 Mexican soldiers killed in firefights with drug cartelsMay 31 14:04
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DaemonFCthe cartels are equipped with weapons capable of fending off the army :PMay 31 14:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera For all those who thought twitter was censoring "flotilla" please read this article. http://is.gd/cwRFI #twittercensorMay 31 14:04
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DaemonFCthe US Border Patrol has gotten a lot tougher on traffic going into Mexico latelyMay 31 14:05
DaemonFCtheir goal is to find and seize the money heading back across the border :)May 31 14:05
MinceR"Perhaps we'd all feel more comfortable if it had a business model that had real, declared profits." >> doubtfulMay 31 14:05
DaemonFC"Kayak across the Pacific Ocean 2,756 miles"May 31 14:06
DaemonFCniceMay 31 14:06
schestowitzlink?May 31 14:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody #china now has second-fastest supercomputer in the world; runs #Linux (of course) - http://bit.ly/bBZRlJ #china #hpcMay 31 14:06
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DaemonFChttp://maps.google.com/maps?q=san+francisco+CA+to+Tokyo,+Japan&ie=UTF8&hl=en&z=3May 31 14:07
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DaemonFC"I can't wait until Ms. Rosenberg tries to travel overseas ("The plaintiff was unaware that attempting to kayak 5,100 miles is an unreasonable endeavor")."May 31 14:07
DaemonFClolMay 31 14:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I'll say one thing. @twitter's scaling must be fixed. The world just boiled over and it hasn't gone down. #freedomflotillaMay 31 14:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, Google Maps told me to walk across a lake onceMay 31 14:08
DaemonFCI turned into JesusFC and walked across that lake, dammitMay 31 14:09
DaemonFC:PMay 31 14:09
MinceRlolMay 31 14:09
DaemonFCGoogle just tells people to go play in traffic in the hopes of improving the gene poolMay 31 14:10
DaemonFCin her case, it backfired and she'll collect Social Security for the rest of her life even if she loses the lawsuitMay 31 14:11
DaemonFC:)May 31 14:11
DaemonFCit told me to bike down a busy two-lane state highwayMay 31 14:11
DaemonFCfor 11.6 milesMay 31 14:12
DaemonFCbut I decided to take my mouse and plot a new course down a few low traffic county roadsMay 31 14:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Who could predict that - #Israel - would take the decisive (if tragic) step towards uniting the world in support of justice for #Palestine.May 31 14:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Oh dear Lord. http://is.gd/cwPFc http://is.gd/cwPJL http://is.gd/cwQ4z http://is.gd/cwQ6B http://is.gd/cwQVk http://is.gd/cwSwcMay 31 14:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #Microsoft Manager Knows That Xbox 360 is Failing, Ballmer Admits It http://ur1.ca/04k7p #natalMay 31 14:13
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DaemonFCcall me crazy but I don't think semi-trucks going 60 miles per hour are going to yield to a person on an electric bicycleMay 31 14:13
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MinceRi have to nail the route to the road going around the city to make google maps realize it's both faster and simpler that wayMay 31 14:13
MinceRit keeps insisting on that i go through the center of the city if i want to go out of the cityMay 31 14:14
DaemonFC"They're 10 miles up going 500 miles an hour! They couldn't see a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION if they were looking for one, much less a flare!!!!"May 31 14:14
DaemonFC:DMay 31 14:14
DaemonFCI can top thatMay 31 14:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Geetas75 @w_nicht Where's #TonyBlair "peace ambassador" 4 MidEast? Weeks ago dining with #Israel & now? /Blair is just part of the PROBLEMMay 31 14:15
DaemonFCif I want to go to Marion, which is 26 miles south, Google wants me to take IN-5, 6 miles north, then get on the freeway, and go about 30 miles southMay 31 14:16
DaemonFCbut it's not just south, the freeway veers off to the east graduallyMay 31 14:16
DaemonFCso after that you have to turn, take IN-18 another 10 miles into townMay 31 14:16
DaemonFC:DMay 31 14:16
DaemonFCit does this because the default is "fastest travel time"May 31 14:17
DaemonFCand the speed limit of 70 on the interstate makes it "1 minute faster"May 31 14:17
DaemonFC:)May 31 14:17
DaemonFCanyone using Google Maps should know it's more of a suggestionMay 31 14:18
DaemonFCand that it often suggests insane routesMay 31 14:18
MinceRdid you tell it you're going by bicycle?May 31 14:18
DaemonFCthat's by carMay 31 14:18
MinceRicMay 31 14:18
DaemonFCwhen you tell it bicycle, it tries sending you down IN-9May 31 14:18
MinceRi wonder if SatNavs design smarter routesMay 31 14:18
MinceROvi Maps probably doesn't :>May 31 14:19
DaemonFCThey need to let you tell it you're travelling via StrykerMay 31 14:19
MinceRMajor Stryker?May 31 14:19
MinceRhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_StrykerMay 31 14:19
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DaemonFC"Destroy slow moving grandpa in front of you with .50 cal machine gun then proceed at posted speed limit"May 31 14:20
MinceRlolMay 31 14:20
DaemonFC"Ram through deer at 60 miles an hour. He only had 3 minutes to get off the road, but he chose to stare at you instead."May 31 14:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @ donatelladr: best form of protest would be not to send your national team toWorld Cup.. http://is.gd/cwT9y #FreedomFlotillaMay 31 14:21
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DaemonFCMinceR, I like what Ron White said to his deer hunting cousinMay 31 14:22
DaemonFCif you ever have trouble shooting them, jsut slow the bullets down to 55 miles per hour and put horns and headlights on themMay 31 14:22
MinceRlolMay 31 14:23
DaemonFCI ran over a deer onceMay 31 14:24
DaemonFCa dead one that isMay 31 14:24
DaemonFCand it goes to tell you what a collosal pile of shit my car isMay 31 14:24
MinceRA Møøse once bit my sisterMay 31 14:24
DaemonFCbecause ever since then, my cruise control has workedMay 31 14:24
DaemonFCB-)May 31 14:24
DaemonFCI must be the only person that has ever hit a deer and gotten something fixedMay 31 14:25
DaemonFCthe damndest part was that I saw it in the road about 15 seconds before I ran over it and it just didn't register that it was laying thereMay 31 14:26
DaemonFCI had just worked a double shift and it was 7 AMMay 31 14:27
DaemonFCand I just didn't care that I was about to run over a deerMay 31 14:27
DaemonFCuntil after I ran over itMay 31 14:27
DaemonFCthat kind of got my attentionMay 31 14:27
DaemonFCthat woman is lucky she wasn't walking down that road that morningMay 31 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @AdelElgamal:فضيحة دولية جديدة لاسرائيل الملطخة ايديها بدماء نشطاء سلام وسياسين في رحلة معلن عنها مسبقا مما يفتح ملف الحصار من جديدMay 31 14:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The law lets employers get away with doing almost anything they want to youMay 31 14:29
DaemonFCeven if it's going to leave you spent and a public safety hazard on the drive homeMay 31 14:30
DaemonFCin that instance, I was working unpaid overtime because I was on salaryMay 31 14:31
DaemonFCWalmart says they base salary management pay on an average of 48 hours a weekMay 31 14:31
DaemonFCbut you'll regularly work at least 60May 31 14:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eye on #Apple : Department of Justice Inquiry Expands http://ur1.ca/04kak http://ur1.ca/04kalMay 31 14:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] And: http://is.gd/cwSCV http://is.gd/cwTt7 http://is.gd/cwTRGMay 31 14:32
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ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=46May 31 14:32
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DaemonFCender2070, I figure Israel probably just gunned those people down to make an example out of themMay 31 14:32
DaemonFCthen justified it by "they were violent!"May 31 14:33
DaemonFCread between the lines, "this could happen to you" type thingMay 31 14:33
ender2070lolMay 31 14:33
DaemonFCif you do this "we can't guarantee your safety"May 31 14:34
DaemonFC;)May 31 14:34
DaemonFCthe way I see it is, assholes on both sidesMay 31 14:36
DaemonFCeach side has a pointMay 31 14:36
DaemonFCthe Israeli's have to worry about Palestinian suicide bombers and suchMay 31 14:36
ender2070ahhMay 31 14:36
DaemonFCthe Palestinians get punished by the IDF gunning down civilians and bulldozing homesMay 31 14:37
DaemonFCterrorists on both sides going after the good people on both sidesMay 31 14:37
ender2070yeah I would believe thatMay 31 14:37
DaemonFCkind of makes it a little more complicated than most people make it seemMay 31 14:37
ender2070i cant really touch this topic too much, there an entire organization that turned their religion into a race and sues people for racismMay 31 14:38
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Diablo-D3oh baby!May 31 14:38
DaemonFCyes, the problem is that the Palestinians had Israel for over a thousand yearsMay 31 14:38
*Diablo-D3 falls over laughingMay 31 14:38
DaemonFCthen when Israel was "re-established", you had random people all over the world populating itMay 31 14:39
ender2070yay Apple probeMay 31 14:39
ender2070Israel was created by the west after WW2May 31 14:39
ender2070it was the automan empireMay 31 14:39
DaemonFCout of land taken by the RomansMay 31 14:39
DaemonFCremember?May 31 14:39
Diablo-D3well, it was a bit of everythingMay 31 14:39
DaemonFCoriginally taken by the Romans I meanMay 31 14:39
ender2070pretty much all land was taken over by someoneMay 31 14:40
MinceRwhat did the romans ever do for us?May 31 14:40
DaemonFCmeh, I'd say at the point it was seized to re-create Israel, the Palestinians probably had the most legitimate claim on that land out of all of themMay 31 14:40
ender2070imagine if the native americans had trillions of dollars and weapons to support their 'taking back of their land'May 31 14:41
DaemonFCender2070, The ones that are left manage to make a killing with casinos and duty-free tobacco and suchMay 31 14:41
DaemonFCmost of them anywayMay 31 14:41
ender2070i wouldnt say they make a killingMay 31 14:42
DaemonFCreally an Indian Reservation today is a tax shelterMay 31 14:42
DaemonFCmore than anythingMay 31 14:42
ender2070the casinos, yesMay 31 14:42
ender2070the duty free tabacco is usually sold on reserves hit with povertyMay 31 14:42
DaemonFCyou have some reservations in Canada, right?May 31 14:42
ender2070yesMay 31 14:42
DaemonFCaren't they governed about the same as here?May 31 14:42
DaemonFClike semi-independentMay 31 14:43
DaemonFCget to make and enforce their own laws and suchMay 31 14:43
ender2070our government used to be super racist towards themMay 31 14:43
ender2070now they get so many benefitsMay 31 14:43
ender2070no sales tax, free college and no tax on reservesMay 31 14:43
DaemonFCsounds about the sameMay 31 14:43
DaemonFCwent from shooting them in the back to can't do enough for themMay 31 14:44
ender2070I think If I married a native american my kids would get that stuffMay 31 14:44
DaemonFChere you get a check if you're at least 1/4thMay 31 14:44
ender2070yeahMay 31 14:44
ender2070i dont think its a bad thing though they were put through so muchMay 31 14:45
ender2070we stole their land basiclyMay 31 14:45
DaemonFCI'm enough to not get a checkMay 31 14:45
ender2070but at the end of the day, survival of the fittestMay 31 14:45
DaemonFCyayMay 31 14:45
DaemonFCI wish I could be on this juryMay 31 14:47
DaemonFCin that idiot woman suing Google caseMay 31 14:47
DaemonFCmy opinion would be 100% of the blame goes to herMay 31 14:47
DaemonFCand Google gets damages from her for bringing a frivolous lawsuitMay 31 14:48
DaemonFC:)May 31 14:48
ender2070what woman suing googleMay 31 14:48
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/197618/woman_sues_google_for_bad_directions.htmlMay 31 14:48
TechrightsTitle: Woman Sues Google for Bad Directions - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.9 KBMay 31 14:48
ender2070ahh an american lawsuitMay 31 14:48
ender2070it'll get thrown out probablyMay 31 14:48
DaemonFCGoogle Maps told her to walk down a highwayMay 31 14:48
DaemonFCand she got hit by a carMay 31 14:48
DaemonFCdumbassMay 31 14:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and #Apple Bad for the Environment and for Labour http://ur1.ca/04ke2 #china #foxconnMay 31 14:48
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft and Apple Bad for the Environment and for Labour | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.28 KBMay 31 14:49
ender2070she didnt read any of the signage that told her not to go on the highwayMay 31 14:49
DaemonFCOur solder uses only the finest-grade 100% leadMay 31 14:49
DaemonFCInspected by the guy that threw himself out the window last weekMay 31 14:49
DaemonFC:DMay 31 14:49
ender2070she also ignored the lawsMay 31 14:50
ender2070if your computer tells you to kill someone and you do it, you cant blame DellMay 31 14:50
ender2070you blame yourselfMay 31 14:50
schestowitz[14:38] <ender2070> i cant really touch this topic too much, there an entire organization that turned their religion into a race and sues people for racismMay 31 14:50
schestowitzTrueMay 31 14:50
schestowitzReligion is part of the mess hereMay 31 14:50
schestowitzBoth sides have religious zealotsMay 31 14:50
ender2070yeahMay 31 14:50
ender2070exactlyMay 31 14:51
ender2070when you have two sides fighting with books of made up shit, its entertainmentMay 31 14:51
schestowitzget rid of the zealots and there's peaceMay 31 14:51
schestowitzAlthough generation of brainwash will take decades to wear offMay 31 14:51
schestowitzAnd that hellhole called "Jerusalem" they think is somehow specialMay 31 14:51
schestowitz*LOL*May 31 14:51
schestowitzIt's 'sacred'May 31 14:51
schestowitzWhatever that meansMay 31 14:51
ender2070yeahMay 31 14:51
ender2070all based on the word of fictionMay 31 14:52
schestowitzNo, no...May 31 14:53
schestowitzWord of GodsMay 31 14:53
schestowitzWritten by manMay 31 14:53
schestowitzAbout GodMay 31 14:53
schestowitzWho wrote about himselfMay 31 14:53
ender2070today, you would be classified schitzophrenicMay 31 14:53
schestowitzBible proves God which proves bible... recurisiveMay 31 14:53
schestowitzThat's why I stay out of those debates where there are two sides that are wrongMay 31 14:53
ender2070"God told me to do that" said Daemon "Oh yeah! Take this prozac"May 31 14:54
schestowitzEach thinking 'God' (don't know... never met her) gave them some portion of the stratosphereMay 31 14:54
schestowitzWe have satellitesMay 31 14:54
schestowitzWe travel to MarsMay 31 14:54
schestowitzBut...May 31 14:54
schestowitzNever mind all thatMay 31 14:54
schestowitzThey found some scrolls in the dead seasMay 31 14:54
schestowitzDating back to WELL WELL WELL after the events claimedMay 31 14:54
schestowitzI think after the Quran tooMay 31 14:55
schestowitzJust ignore those scrolls they dislike and don't add. They were written by different people anyway :-)May 31 14:55
ender2070what about all the stuff they took out of the bibleMay 31 14:55
schestowitz"Desert dogma" is what it isMay 31 14:55
schestowitzender2070: which bible?May 31 14:56
schestowitzThere are severalMay 31 14:56
schestowitzAnd which God/s?May 31 14:56
ender2070i know sodom and gomorrah is being taken out of the catholic/christian bibleMay 31 14:56
schestowitzI had a chat about it at the gym last night with a guy who had converted from Islam to ChristianityMay 31 14:56
ender2070god isn't allowed to discriminateMay 31 14:56
schestowitzI just told him, why have a religion at all?May 31 14:56
schestowitzSome people assume that one of the theist dogmas need to be selected and be "True"May 31 14:57
schestowitzBased on faith, not evidenceMay 31 14:57
schestowitzThat's just like them choosing a football teamMay 31 14:57
schestowitzLike me deciding to leave United for Manchester CityMay 31 14:57
ender2070I believe in God but I don't believe in any religionMay 31 14:57
schestowitzCause I like Blue more than RedMay 31 14:57
schestowitzRed... BlueMay 31 14:57
schestowitzLike in the electionsMay 31 14:57
schestowitzUK, USMay 31 14:57
schestowitzBlack and white havd connotationMay 31 14:58
schestowitzEvil/goodMay 31 14:58
schestowitzLike chess boardsMay 31 14:58
ender2070funny you mention chess boards in that listMay 31 14:58
ender2070the freemasons loved the chess board pattern for that reasonMay 31 14:58
schestowitzWho are the freemasons?May 31 14:59
schestowitzName someMay 31 14:59
schestowitzI know MasonsMay 31 14:59
ender2070Free MasonsMay 31 14:59
schestowitzAnd those who relate to Quakers (quacks?) tooMay 31 14:59
ender2070not sure about the quakersMay 31 14:59
schestowitzI recently found out that Mormons are said to be wearing special underwearMay 31 14:59
schestowitzIt's kind of funnyMay 31 14:59
ender2070lots of people talk about freemasonic stuff thoughMay 31 14:59
schestowitzANd the US chose freedom from religion to prevent the different 'businesses' (churches) for competing with armsMay 31 15:00
schestowitzDNA proximity is a more logical divider than religion, language, place of residence, etc.May 31 15:01
schestowitzBut that gets blured this century with inter-faith marriagesMay 31 15:01
schestowitzSo the GOP will go BANANAS watching ObamaMay 31 15:01
schestowitzHe must scare themMay 31 15:01
schestowitzThey can't tell white from black anymoreMay 31 15:01
schestowitzSo the KooKooKs don't know what to hang nowMay 31 15:01
schestowitzTheir racism doesn't work anymoreMay 31 15:02
schestowitzTheir prejudice won't even work against women and homosexuals anymoreMay 31 15:02
schestowitzSucks to be racist :-)May 31 15:02
schestowitzAnd it's getting worse for them over timeMay 31 15:02
schestowitzSo they resort to isolationismMay 31 15:02
schestowitzWhat was the name of that church that says, "bless God  for 9/11"?May 31 15:03
schestowitzI can't ever remember what their leading women is called. They bring her on TV to show the lunacyMay 31 15:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/34049014#notice-34253505May 31 15:04
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scientesjust installed chromium with vp8 from sidMay 31 15:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @FOSSpatents Open Invention Network (OIN) demystified http://bit.ly/cf0CgN Unfair, intransparent, dangerous. Doesn't help FOSS #swpatMay 31 15:07
TechrightsTitle: FOSS Patents: Open Invention Network (OIN) demystified .::. Size~: 56.03 KBMay 31 15:07
ender2070I already had chromium 6.x :)May 31 15:09
ender2070chromium-6.0.417May 31 15:10
ender2070http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F13/May 31 15:10
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DaemonFCender2070, I have Chrome right nowMay 31 15:14
DaemonFCrouting it through PrivoxyMay 31 15:14
DaemonFCboth have improved since the last time I tried itMay 31 15:14
schestowitzI tried chromiumMay 31 15:15
schestowitzBlazin' fastMay 31 15:15
schestowitzBut no plugins, eitherMay 31 15:15
DaemonFCI've got the developer channelMay 31 15:15
schestowitzBack to Firefox, I love Mozilla, distrust GoogleMay 31 15:15
ender2070I use chromium built from sources by SpotMay 31 15:15
schestowitzender2070: news for you...May 31 15:15
schestowitzhttp://whatwillweuse.com/2010/05/25/making-free-pay/May 31 15:15
TechrightsTitle: Making free pay  What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 46.41 KBMay 31 15:15
ender2070every browser fingerprintsMay 31 15:15
schestowitz"21,676,499+ users"May 31 15:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Nina Paley produced http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/ her website is here http://blog.ninapaley.com/http://twitter.com/#May 31 15:16
TechrightsTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 .::. Size~: 0 KBMay 31 15:16
schestowitzHow do they measure it?May 31 15:16
schestowitzUIPs?May 31 15:16
schestowitzPhone homeMay 31 15:16
schestowitzAggreg' over many versions?May 31 15:16
schestowitzDownloads?May 31 15:16
schestowitzI know they have a page that tracks itliveMay 31 15:16
schestowitzAnd they don't rely on or extrapolate on their counter app that some people installMay 31 15:16
schestowitzhttp://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/nuclear-news-uk-government-has-found-a-backha/blog/11833May 31 15:17
schestowitzGreenpeace annoy meMay 31 15:17
TechrightsTitle: Nuclear News: UK government has found a backhanded way to subsidise nuclear power | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 59.15 KBMay 31 15:17
schestowitzWhy so anti-nuclear energy?May 31 15:17
schestowitzWhat do they want? Oil?May 31 15:17
schestowitzWind ain't enough for post-industrial revolution lifeMay 31 15:17
schestowitzSociety too large after population growthMay 31 15:18
ender2070lolMay 31 15:18
ender2070how does redhat measure it?May 31 15:18
ender2070if you've ever actually installed fedora, it asks you if you want to be a statisticMay 31 15:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Hanna Skold produced http://nastyoldpeople.org/using a 10,000 euro loan - great movieMay 31 15:20
ender2070it does this at the end of the install tooMay 31 15:20
ender2070I assume they use that data to determine uniquenessMay 31 15:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin both used The Pirate Bay as their distribution mechanismMay 31 15:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Sita is here: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4750181/Sita_Sings_the_Blues_(1080P_official_release)May 31 15:20
schestowitz"TSA Officer: I read your stuff all the time." http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/05/another_scene_f.htmlMay 31 15:21
TechrightsTitle: Sita Sings the Blues (1080P official release) (download torrent) - TPB .::. Size~: 14.88 KBMay 31 15:21
TechrightsTitle: Schneier on Security: Another Scene from an Airport .::. Size~: 53.6 KBMay 31 15:21
schestowitzender2070: so are those numbers including servers with Fedora?May 31 15:21
ender2070schestowitz - its possible it includes serversMay 31 15:21
schestowitzAre there 20+ million machines with Fedora installed on a parttition at this moment?May 31 15:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Nasty Old People is here: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5117424/Nasty.Old.People.2009.XviDMay 31 15:22
TechrightsTitle: Nasty.Old.People.2009.XviD (download torrent) - TPB .::. Size~: 22.24 KBMay 31 15:22
schestowitzIncluding Linpus and derivatives?May 31 15:22
ender2070i dont think it includes derivitivesMay 31 15:22
ender2070probably does count serversMay 31 15:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin See http://bit.ly/caBqBBMay 31 15:23
TechrightsTitle: Nina Paley Has A Wonderful Cartoon About DRM Id Like To Share With You Thanks To Her Permission «  Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 93.73 KBMay 31 15:23
ender2070fedora also contributes directly to upstreamMay 31 15:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Damn I should have emailed this stuff :]May 31 15:23
ender2070unlike canonical who usually tries to make upstream do what they wantMay 31 15:23
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0530/church-sued-victim-sex-abuser/May 31 15:24
TechrightsTitle: Church sued victim of convicted sex abuser: report |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 44.71 KBMay 31 15:24
ender2070redhat also gives away the entire source for enterpriseMay 31 15:25
ender2070hence, many distros based on RHELMay 31 15:25
ender2070Scientific Linux, CentOSMay 31 15:25
ender2070all free without subscriptionsMay 31 15:25
schestowitzwth? http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0529/oakland-city-tax-license-marijuana-production/May 31 15:26
TechrightsTitle: Oakland looks to become first US city to tax, license commercial marijuana production |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 38.15 KBMay 31 15:26
schestowitzender2070: yeah, we use centosMay 31 15:26
schestowitz"A shallow 7.2 earthquake struck off Vanuatu Friday, seismologists said, sparking a tsunami warning which was later cancelled."May 31 15:29
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/05/dispersant-delay/#ixzz0nH0BemVJMay 31 15:32
TechrightsTitle: Better Oil Dispersant Tests Delayed in Gulf | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 77.48 KBMay 31 15:32
ender2070I'll be switching pwnage.ca over soonMay 31 15:32
ender2070to fedoraMay 31 15:32
ender2070I dont like ubuntu anymoreMay 31 15:32
schestowitzHypocrite: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0523/drill-baby-drill-palin-attacks-obama-close-oil-companies/May 31 15:33
TechrightsTitle: Oil drilling enthusiast Sarah Palin slams tenuous Obama-BP ties |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 49.57 KBMay 31 15:33
schestowitzender2070: it run Ubuntu? For Server?????May 31 15:33
ender2070yesMay 31 15:34
schestowitzMicrosoft Nick covers a non-Microsoft topic at least, or does he? http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Government-IT/Apples-Music-Strategy-Under-DOJ-Examination-Says-Report-158903/May 31 15:35
TechrightsTitle: Apple's Music Strategy Under DOJ Examination, Says Report - Government IT from eWeek .::. Size~: 115.87 KBMay 31 15:35
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/c72xf/a_jewish_man_spots_his_jewish_friend_reading_an/May 31 15:37
TechrightsTitle: A Jewish man spots his Jewish friend reading an Arabic newspaper : funny .::. Size~: 318.83 KBMay 31 15:37
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_uzUh1VT98&feature=player_embeddedMay 31 15:44
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Librarians Do Gaga .::. Size~: 98.04 KBMay 31 15:44
schestowitzidioticMay 31 15:46
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jYMay 31 15:47
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Tom Lehrer - National Brotherhood Week - now on DVD .::. Size~: 97.07 KBMay 31 15:47
ender2070schestowitz - been running ubuntu server since 8.04 LTSMay 31 15:51
schestowitzIs it any good?May 31 15:52
ender2070its ubuntu desktop without any packagesMay 31 15:52
DaemonFCX isn't even installedMay 31 15:52
ender2070just a cliMay 31 15:52
ender2070or debian server with newer packagesMay 31 15:52
ender2070lolMay 31 15:52
DaemonFChttp://www.dailytech.com/Chinese+Govt+Demands+Foxconn+Stop+Suicides+Says+Unions+are+the+Answer/article18557.htmMay 31 15:53
TechrightsTitle: DailyTech - Chinese Gov't Demands Foxconn Stop Suicides, Says Unions are the Answer .::. Size~: 70.42 KBMay 31 15:53
DaemonFC"requiring employees to sign contract letters promising not to kill themselves"May 31 15:53
DaemonFCwtfMay 31 15:54
ender2070LOLMay 31 15:54
DaemonFCwhat are they going to do to you if you succeed?May 31 15:54
DaemonFC:PMay 31 15:54
ender2070take your assetsMay 31 15:54
ender2070your family gets nothingMay 31 15:54
ender2070bamMay 31 15:54
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/28/world_cup_mspaint/May 31 15:54
TechrightsTitle: World Cup magic captured in Microsoft Paint • The Register .::. Size~: 31.14 KBMay 31 15:54
ender2070sounds like in the USA, you had to sign something saying you werent a communistMay 31 15:55
ender2070i wish they would bring that backMay 31 15:55
DaemonFCDear Foxconn, I promise not to kill myself. Instead, I will show up on time every day, work essentially free for up to 16 hour shifts, and let a combination of stress, fatigue, and exposure to hazardous chemicals kill me instead. Sincerely, (Your name here)May 31 15:56
DaemonFC:D\May 31 15:56
schestowitz:-)May 31 15:57
DaemonFCIn the event that I do kill myself, I agree to represent myself in front of an arbitration panel consisting entirely of Foxconn management to determine where my assets are sent.May 31 15:57
DaemonFC(Initial Here)May 31 15:57
ender2070http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StatisticsMay 31 15:58
TechrightsTitle: Statistics - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 31.79 KBMay 31 15:58
DaemonFCI further agree to indemnify Apple should I die from listening to U2 on the iPod testing line.May 31 16:00
DaemonFC:)May 31 16:00
DaemonFCPlease send my carbon credits to Bono for the years my life was cut short.May 31 16:00
DaemonFCHe'll know what to do.May 31 16:01
DaemonFChttp://www.dailytech.com/Foxconn+Makes+Employees+Promise+Not+to+Kill+Themselves/article18526.htmMay 31 16:01
ender2070lol carbon creditsMay 31 16:01
TechrightsTitle: DailyTech - Foxconn Makes Employees Promise Not to Kill Themselves .::. Size~: 371.44 KBMay 31 16:01
ender2070oh yeah bono IS a world bank shillMay 31 16:02
DaemonFCthey translated the letter to EnglishMay 31 16:02
DaemonFChe's also promoting that Product Red bullshitMay 31 16:02
ender2070yeahMay 31 16:02
DaemonFCHere, pay us another $100 for the Red edition and we'll send $2 to AIDS reliefMay 31 16:02
ender2070AIDS relief = corporations that stand to profit enormously off of any cure that comes from itMay 31 16:03
DaemonFCthey'll never cure itMay 31 16:03
DaemonFCit's more profitable to "manage it"May 31 16:03
ender2070yeah why would they cure something they madeMay 31 16:03
DaemonFCit also prolongs the life of what they see as a virus incubation unitMay 31 16:03
ender2070also your pointMay 31 16:03
DaemonFC(person infected)May 31 16:03
DaemonFCso they can make more customersMay 31 16:04
DaemonFC:PMay 31 16:04
ender2070I think its man madeMay 31 16:04
DaemonFCif it's not, it's damned convenientMay 31 16:04
scientescapitalist creed: "from each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed"May 31 16:04
ender2070it would be the most evolutionary perfect virus everMay 31 16:04
DaemonFCyou'll notice that it more or less only targets the people they don't care about anywayMay 31 16:04
DaemonFCthe peonsMay 31 16:04
DaemonFCand the one or two celebrities that get it live foreverMay 31 16:05
DaemonFCbecause they can afford to take any medication any number of times per dayMay 31 16:05
scientes"relief"May 31 16:05
scientes"cure"May 31 16:05
ender2070yesMay 31 16:05
scientesits all propagandaMay 31 16:05
scientesjust a way of giving money to big corporations for nothing of valueMay 31 16:05
scientessiphoning it from the peopleMay 31 16:05
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/24/safari_carpet_bombing_bug/May 31 16:06
TechrightsTitle: Two years later, Apple Safari still open to 'carpet-bombing' • The Register .::. Size~: 32.43 KBMay 31 16:06
ender2070they're pissed about PolioMay 31 16:06
scientesand using the hurting as an excuseMay 31 16:06
ender2070they could've made a lot of money by not curing itMay 31 16:06
scientesender2070, exactlyMay 31 16:06
DaemonFC$1,200 a month is what it costs to "manage" an HIV infection with their drugsMay 31 16:06
scientesits all a complicated way of notdoing anythingMay 31 16:06
DaemonFCand governments pay itMay 31 16:06
scientesbesides make the rich richerMay 31 16:06
DaemonFCthe medication probably didn't even take $1 to makeMay 31 16:06
ender2070yeahMay 31 16:06
schestowitzHeh. $1 is HUGEMay 31 16:06
schestowitzFor productionMay 31 16:07
ender2070medicine is one if the biggest rippoffs in the worldMay 31 16:07
schestowitzIt's more lik a cent apieceMay 31 16:07
DaemonFCI agree with that term "murder via patents" hereMay 31 16:07
schestowitzThey make them in quantities, then chop/slice downMay 31 16:07
scientesabsolutelyMay 31 16:07
ender2070other than money itselfMay 31 16:07
DaemonFCbecause that's precisely what it isMay 31 16:07
scientesender2070, no, patentsMay 31 16:07
scientesthere are good doctors, and good medicineMay 31 16:07
ender2070not very many of themMay 31 16:07
ender2070they will disappear tooMay 31 16:07
schestowitzConsider how many CPU you can carve out of silicon wafersMay 31 16:08
schestowitz*CPUsMay 31 16:08
scienteshttp://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/08/hunger-insurance.htmlMay 31 16:08
TechrightsTitle: ClubOrlov: Hunger Insurance .::. Size~: 121.59 KBMay 31 16:08
ender2070doctors in canada became lazy and corrupt after socialized medicine paid them whatever they askedMay 31 16:08
schestowitzIn 2005 I read that it cost Intel just $29 to make a processorMay 31 16:08
schestowitzDrugs are a different marginsMay 31 16:08
schestowitzLike HP and inkMay 31 16:08
scientesdoctors are the good onesMay 31 16:08
scientes(generally)May 31 16:08
ender2070ontario doctors bill all sorts of crazy shit that the government has to pay forMay 31 16:09
scientesthey are not the source of corruptionMay 31 16:09
schestowitzI have a professor friend with friends in big pharmaMay 31 16:09
schestowitzHe says they're not humanMay 31 16:09
ender2070no but giving them blank cheques helpsMay 31 16:09
schestowitzAnd warned me never to join themMay 31 16:09
ender2070i think money is a bigger scam than patentsMay 31 16:09
schestowitzI'm not talking about lab employeesMay 31 16:09
schestowitzOr production lines, eitherMay 31 16:09
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/article/197625/nvidia_launches_budget_3d_graphics_card_for_desktops.htmlMay 31 16:10
TechrightsTitle: Nvidia Launches Budget 3D Graphics Card for Desktops - PCWorld .::. Size~: 66.37 KBMay 31 16:10
schestowitzsome of the big pharmas companies are larger than Microsoft, staff-wise, but some are clerks, PR, janitors, etc.May 31 16:10
DaemonFC$279 is a budget card?May 31 16:10
DaemonFCsince when?May 31 16:10
ender2070since alwaysMay 31 16:10
ender2070$200-300 is budgetMay 31 16:10
ender2070when the latest and greatest is $700-1000May 31 16:11
DaemonFCbudget card is typically understood to be under $100May 31 16:11
scientesbig pharma doesn't do much eiterMay 31 16:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: it says "budget", it doesn't say how big a budgetMay 31 16:11
scientesthe real research is under govt moneyMay 31 16:11
ender2070under $100? usually dog shitMay 31 16:11
schestowitzlike the word enonomy, designed to insult/repel (like in air travel)May 31 16:11
DaemonFCschestowitz, In that case, a BMW is a foreign economy carMay 31 16:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Uranowski If I had a $1 for every time Harper refused to speak to the press I cd pay for #G20 #cdnpoli //cockroaches hate the lightMay 31 16:12
DaemonFC:PMay 31 16:12
schestowitzWords like "chav" too (social pressures to consume)May 31 16:12
ender2070a graphics card under $100 is usually onboard graphics qualityMay 31 16:12
DaemonFCender2070, noMay 31 16:12
ender2070yesMay 31 16:12
DaemonFCmany times faster than onboardMay 31 16:12
ender2070you can get an onboard ati 4850May 31 16:13
DaemonFCthat siphons system RAM?May 31 16:13
DaemonFCthat's clocked how fast?May 31 16:13
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/25/google-named-in-class-action-suit-over-street-viewMay 31 16:13
TechrightsTitle: Google Named In Class Action Suit Over Street View | WebProNews .::. Size~: 47.45 KBMay 31 16:13
ender2070i have plenty of ramMay 31 16:13
DaemonFCthat has how many stream processors and texture units?May 31 16:13
ender2070a 4850 is a very good cardMay 31 16:13
ender2070look it upMay 31 16:13
DaemonFCyeah, you probably actually get the "mobile" 4850 as the integrated GPUMay 31 16:14
ender2070AMD FusionMay 31 16:14
DaemonFCthey do that you knowMay 31 16:14
ender2070even a mobile 4850 is faster than anything you can get under $100May 31 16:14
ender2070in fact you can get a 4850 for around that priceMay 31 16:14
DaemonFCdoubt itMay 31 16:14
ender2070non-mobileMay 31 16:14
ender2070i bought one brand new upon release for $200May 31 16:14
ender2070i dont think 2 years later its still over $100May 31 16:15
ender2070i sold it to my friend for $80 because it had the worst performing linux drivers in existanceMay 31 16:15
ender20702x slower in linux than in windowsMay 31 16:15
DaemonFCyeahMay 31 16:15
DaemonFCFGLRX strikes againMay 31 16:16
DaemonFCFGLRX is craptacularMay 31 16:16
ender2070while my nvidia card performed better in linux than it did on windowsMay 31 16:16
ender20709800 GTX+May 31 16:16
DaemonFCthe 4870 is a power hogMay 31 16:16
DaemonFCI remember looking at that one at one pointMay 31 16:16
ender2070yeah it was a power hogMay 31 16:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao Chemical-dispersd oil threatens bluefin tuna spawning; may face extinction http://j.mp/cUVvJ9 **were already approaching extinctionMay 31 16:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Its no problem! I don't shout "troll" just because someone replies with more that one tweet at a time!.Thanks for the info!May 31 16:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Note - #Israel's credibility gone. #Obama: Handle this wrong, and yours is gone too.May 31 16:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@etsyjulianne agenda Marxism. #Obama's book details desire 4 social justice /LOL! I'm 100% for #socialJustice myself. NO sign that admin isMay 31 16:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@etsyjulianne if u think the current admin has anything to do with "marxism"/"socialism"/"obama"-the-man, u should get out more.May 31 16:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@etsyjulianne Relax: You will never see social justice under #Obama. Same movie, different actor. & turn off #FOX some time.May 31 16:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @avivao #US "currently working to understand circumstances" http://u.nu/5yb4b //="with #Israel, frantically stitching up justifications"May 31 16:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/technology/39341-autocad-for-mac-beta-slips-outMay 31 16:39
schestowitzMaybe they'll port to Linux tooMay 31 16:39
schestowitzMany CAD users are on Linux alreadyMay 31 16:39
schestowitzBBC propaganda: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10152623.stmMay 31 16:40
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schestowitz"Net piracy"May 31 16:40
schestowitz /s/piracy/users/May 31 16:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ggreenwald 'the people on these ships who tried to deliver aid to Gazans...are pure, unadulterated heroes' http://bit.ly/d99deBMay 31 16:41
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schestowitzamarsh04: http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/technology/39448-brighton-grammar-hand-out-ipadsMay 31 16:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ggreenwald 'Not even..most intense propaganda..can prettify a lethal military attack on ships w/civilians & aid' http://bit.ly/d99deBMay 31 16:42
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schestowitzYour government distributes Appleware now?May 31 16:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @activistgirl #Israel Tells All Israelis To Leave #Turkey //rogue terrorist state endangering own citizensMay 31 16:46
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/26/foxconn_defacement_suicide_protest/May 31 16:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] wife - "how about this name of ourbaby" techi-hubby - "let me check whois" ... "Oops, it is not available" #lol #joke #whois #techMay 31 16:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @avivao "They beat us up with metal sticks&knives," Israeli commando to reporters http://bit.ly/95UXdw /&what were commandos doing there?May 31 16:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @everydaywitch #Israel has given world a reason to rally behind Palestinian state #p2 //a reason,& whole rationale. many more now see whyMay 31 16:52
schestowitzhttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/347502/hackers_can_delete_facebook_friends_thanks_flaw?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1May 31 16:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ProfJonathan: .@Shoq Those who attacked the IDF soldiers with grenades & poles were hardly innocent //tell us WHY the #IDF was there.May 31 16:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ProfJonathan: .@Shoq Those who attacked #IDF soldiers with grenades /'grenades'? really? by anti-war activists? Who HATE all your weapons!May 31 16:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@scottEweinberg What if it is proven that soldiers were attacked 1st //uh, what? how did armed #IDF come to be on the boat? buggy teleport?May 31 17:01
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/25/new-york-times-paywall-loophole-access-through-linksMay 31 17:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 whose account can be trusted here? I trust neither, zealotry on both sides (among small minority); needs EU investigationMay 31 17:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz we shall see.May 31 17:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ schestowitz whose account can be trusted here // we could start by taking Goldstone seriously, ehMay 31 17:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@schestowitz whose account can be trusted here // we could start by taking #Goldstone seriously, ehMay 31 17:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 I hope so, but am pessimist. After 2009 investigation they found them guilty but nobody thrown in jail; reminds me of BP/MSFTMay 31 17:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 as I like to say, jail cells are built for rich people to lock up hungry shoplifting victims, not greedy crooks who create condit.May 31 17:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 re #Goldstone - yes, beat me to itMay 31 17:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz yes, it is a fatal & heartbreaking repetition. All such battles are. Women's Suffrage. Desegregation. End of #Apartheid. #GazaMay 31 17:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 South Lebanon before thatMay 31 17:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Do you smell methane? #4wordsbeforedeath #bp #oilspillMay 31 17:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 Do you smell methane? #4wordsbeforedeath #bp #oilspillMay 31 17:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #bp is being accused right now of controlling (mis)information so as to minimise their fines and protect their image with liesMay 31 17:19
schestowitzhttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/347987/oracle_buys_telecom_billing_tech_from_aussie_firm?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1May 31 17:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz trouble is, methane is odourless. #ThinkBeforeTweetingMay 31 17:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Abiword 2.8.5 is released! http://www.abisource.com/ #linux #foss #office #gnu #microsoft #windows #msoffice #msword #freeMay 31 17:25
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schestowitzPhoenix has ice damage from Mars winter http://www.itwire.com/science-news/space/39320-phoenix-has-ice-damage-on-marsMay 31 17:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Abiword 2.8.5 is released! http://www.abisource.com/ #linux #foss #office #gnu #microsoft #windows #msoffice #msword #freeMay 31 17:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @lavietidhar My last post on Gaza flotilla outrage. Too pissed off to continue today http://bit.ly/bjCMJs <--israeli writer of conscienceMay 31 17:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@US_Campaign "Those responsible must be held criminally accountable" http://tinyurl.com/2g2jb9t //silly old #UN, always 'looking backwards'May 31 17:40
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ender2070+1May 31 17:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@DMiliband Deeply concerned by incidents overnight regarding Gaza flotilla // how nice. you do realise this is a career defining moment?May 31 17:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #BP breathes a sigh of relief to suddenly find they are no longer #1 asshole of the universe. #oilButForgottenMay 31 17:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao RT @krysilove where r the congressmen who said President was wrong for critiquing Israeli govt? #gaza //waiting for checks to clearMay 31 17:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq .@ProfJonathan LOOK at mayhem. ANY1 wd think, "these commandos are here to kill me" //precisely. #IDF sent there, with those ordersMay 31 18:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @freegazaorg #Israel cannot confiscate all footage, tape //you can be sure they destroyed EVERY camera. But can't kill 600 witnesses nowMay 31 18:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ avivao .@mparent77772: President @BarackObama, per statement today, regrets the violence + deaths //so stop funding and enabling itMay 31 18:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @avivao .@mparent77772: President @BarackObama, per statement today, regrets the violence + deaths //so stop funding and enabling itMay 31 18:06
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/24/viacom_youtube_spat/May 31 18:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Shoq NAILED IT! @ProSexFeminist @Shoq ur a nippletweaking, catloving,poli tweeting,heelwearing,Not-drag-queen man.Amirite? /get a room u 2May 31 18:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kulpreetsingh Somebody bumps into your shopping cart and YOU also say sorry. #onlyincanada <-- true storyMay 31 18:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@nickbilton On average, #Apple is selling 35k #iPad's a day; 250k a week; 1 million a month: http://j.mp/9qsuRA // what's that in suicides?May 31 18:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 not just in Canada, here tooMay 31 18:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz yep, it's an anglo thingMay 31 18:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz I found the #middleclassguilt and #middleclassnightmare tags rather amusing (via @victoriacoren e.g.)May 31 18:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'CEO Carol Bartz has been telling TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington to “f#ck off!”' http://ur1.ca/04lgu She learned from her master, BallmerMay 31 18:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Kellbo0 #Israel -Netanyahu "Regret deaths but troops had right to self-defense" // Now we all know what #CHUTZPAH means. #freedomflotillaMay 31 18:19
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/05/27/youtube-launches-communication-hub-for-partnersMay 31 18:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rww #iPad: $1 Bln Later, What Do You Think of It Now? http://bit.ly/b1CVU3 //still don't care:) (#Apple user since '85) #defectivebydesignMay 31 18:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@BinaBecker #flotilla: None dare call it #piracy? //of course not. Only Somalis are pirates, & only Arabs are terrorists, #DUH #RWNJ logicMay 31 18:34
MinceRschestowitz: Tom Lehrer ftwMay 31 18:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all, slept in today, it is Memorial Day here so a day off. Had a nice weekend away from my computer too. :-) How are you all?May 31 18:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Congrats to the KOffice team for their 2.2 release - http://is.gd/cxaDX #kdeMay 31 19:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq Sigh RT @pewestlake @Shoq Nothing is '#Israel's Katrina'. They'll sail thru // #Europe has a REAL chance to bring consequences. #ICCMay 31 19:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The #US is too corrupt to properly confront #Israel. But they have attacked states with 1000-yr relationships to #Europe. The #ICC awaits.May 31 19:04
ender2070http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/public-service-announcement/May 31 19:05
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ender2070LOLMay 31 19:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq RT @StephanieWDC: Middle East conflict unresolved in 5000 yrs. watching folks tackle it in 140 chars // 'murder' is only 6 charsMay 31 19:08
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schestowitzender2070: f* dat :-) :-)May 31 19:15
schestowitzFB that isMay 31 19:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mirandacan What were they thinking 2 attack flotilla&kill. Did they think their few follwrs wd multiply /they don't care;they're protectedMay 31 19:16
ender2070lolMay 31 19:16
ender2070should make a fedorabookMay 31 19:16
ender2070that will be confusingMay 31 19:16
ender2070fedora is older than facebook tooMay 31 19:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq .@Conservativeind should be put on national tv so people see just how #Fox exploits bloody fucking imbeciles // Manchurian CandidatesMay 31 19:19
schestowitzhttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2010/05/ubuntu_linux_1004_review.htmlMay 31 19:20
schestowitzFedora book with wi-fi and Goddard preinatlledMay 31 19:21
schestowitzfacedoraMay 31 19:21
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MinceR(flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyNk8J1c8g&feature=relatedMay 31 19:21
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schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=135SdtFzV2UMay 31 19:24
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schestowitzTJ...May 31 19:25
MinceRhttp://knowyourmeme.com/photos/50473May 31 19:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @omar_s_hafez do you know how @ QueenRania reconciles intimacy with corrupt US elite and @billgates, etc, with cause of Palestinian justice?May 31 19:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] At last - that faily, whaley thing. Must be time to sleep.May 31 19:33
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schestowitzhttp://minimsft.blogspot.com/2010/05/thoughts-on-wrapping-up-microsofts-fy10.htmlMay 31 19:38
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schestowitzMore Microsoft layoffs (small)May 31 19:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@sunshineejc Natives James Carville and wife Mary Matalin proving... //the old adage that a stopped clock is right twice a dayMay 31 19:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Mathewh am i crazy or is that #pedobear behind the prime minister on this page: http://www.magazine.utoronto.ca/? // correct! SAVED!May 31 19:41
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schestowitzWTH?May 31 19:41
schestowitzMarketing Microsoft for Ubuntu: http://blog.allanglesit.com/Blog/tabid/66/EntryId/60/Ubuntu-and-Hyper-V-The-Paths-to-Enlightenment.aspxMay 31 19:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Waiting to watch Going Postal that Ive Sky+'dMay 31 19:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Why is Monday night so bad for TV? Oh yeah, the wife watches all the soaps on that night.May 31 19:48
schestowitzhttp://www.freebsdnews.net/2010/05/31/desktopbsd-start/ http://desktopbsd.net/index.php?id=31May 31 19:48
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schestowitzDropbox is 100% proprietary, right? Or it is 'clouded' too?May 31 19:56
tessierWhat's the difference?May 31 19:57
tessierYou mean do they run their own servers or cloud them with Amazon etc?May 31 19:57
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/ipads-banned-from-yankee-stadium/15056?tag=nl.e550May 31 19:59
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schestowitztessier: I was thinking of client and server sideMay 31 19:59
schestowitzI never used itMay 31 20:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Big Media Has Trouble Collecting Pirate Bay Fines http://tinyurl.com/296q5jl #thepiratebay #tpb #piracy #piracypartyMay 31 20:00
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schestowitzIt's cross-platform, but it's also true that UbuntuOne is proprrietary on the server side , AFAIKMay 31 20:00
schestowitzSo I can fork my client side, only as long as the server stays compatible, so freedom ain't thereMay 31 20:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What #BP does not want you to see http://acp.repoweramerica.org/page/invite/oilspillvideoMay 31 20:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My favorite Linux/FOSS podcast at the moment..... http://www.linuxbasement.com/ #linux #foss #gnu #podcastMay 31 20:12
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MinceRhttp://veracium.com/blog/rylec/i-don-t-fear-god83May 31 20:16
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schestowitzMinceR: they diedMay 31 20:16
schestowitzBut they made offspringsMay 31 20:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I like that one too. Chad used to be with TLLTSMay 31 20:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Added 127.0.0.1 www.apture.com to my hosts file to block the single most annoying crappy javascript I've seen for a while.May 31 20:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Its a difficult choice though as there are so many great podcasts...so much good material.May 31 20:22
tessierI can't stand podcasts. :(May 31 20:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to record #shotofjaq with @silMay 31 20:23
tessierEvery time I try to listen to one I get bored. I much prefer to read. I can read faster than they can speak and every podcast seems dumbed down.May 31 20:23
ender2070some corps want to animal farm their own freedom #5 into the booksMay 31 20:23
*tessier just reposted his OpenMoko phone for saleMay 31 20:23
tessierSuch a bummer.May 31 20:24
tessierThat project has pretty much fizzled. I spent nearly $500 on this phone which has sat useless for nearly two years.May 31 20:24
tessierMy OLPC G1G1 investment hasn't exactly paid off either. I think I'm done being an early adopter of open source hardware. Someone else can take the hit next time.May 31 20:24
ender20705. The freedom to distribute proprietary copies of your modified versions to others, and to negate all other 4 freedoms.May 31 20:24
MinceRtessier: what happened to your OLPC investment?May 31 20:28
tessierIt just never went anywhere. I've only ever met one other person who had one.May 31 20:32
tessierThe whole "mesh network" idea never turned up.May 31 20:32
oiaohmYes and no.May 31 20:33
tessierThere's no support for it. It has become politicized. May 31 20:33
oiaohmmesh networks are still being deployed.May 31 20:33
tessierAnd worst of all it really can't do much. No ecosystem ever evolved around it.May 31 20:33
tessierI've never seen/used one nor can I name one. And where is an OLPC meshed network?May 31 20:33
tessierI played with mesh networking in 2004 or so...May 31 20:33
tessierThere's a project...Locust or some such.May 31 20:34
tessierWorks well. Good stuff. Just takes money to deploy.May 31 20:34
oiaohmThere is a solar based project as well.May 31 20:34
oiaohmThere are some areas but not much.May 31 20:34
tessierLots of money since these things normally need to be powered and in an environment-proof box and a good antenna etc.May 31 20:34
tessierIt isn't just a $50 WRT54G or whatever.May 31 20:34
oiaohmOne I am thinking of lands in building with 4 thin clients.May 31 20:35
schestowitz[20:23] <tessier> Every time I try to listen to one I get bored. I much prefer to read. I can read faster than they can speak and every podcast seems dumbed down.May 31 20:35
tessierSo yeah, that's how my OLPC didn't turn out as I expected.May 31 20:35
schestowitzI listen to audio when I can't focus my eyes on contentMay 31 20:35
tessierI try to listen to podcasts in my car.May 31 20:35
tessierCan you recommend a good one that isn't too terribly slow moving?May 31 20:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin In TLLTS shows are over 2 hours long and informal. I like those.May 31 20:36
tessierI was listening to "Security Now" most recently (few weeks ago) and got frustrated and dumped it.May 31 20:36
oiaohmOLPC did not turn out as expected for anyone.May 31 20:36
schestowitzIt's about Windows mostlyMay 31 20:36
tessierIDDW so that wouldn't work for me.May 31 20:36
schestowitzI wouldn't want to hard problems I don't have... or maybe I would :-)May 31 20:36
ender2070there should be some cheap arm9 stuff coming out soonMay 31 20:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Since, Ive got the tech and a few volunteers a podcast is something Im considering.....May 31 20:37
tessierender2070: That is my next great hope.May 31 20:37
tessierender2070: Cheap ARM powered tablets/netbooks/laptops etc.May 31 20:37
ender2070theres an article about a bunch of arm9 tabletsMay 31 20:37
tessierI don't need a fast cpu. I need email, web browsing, IM, ssh. None of that needs much power.May 31 20:37
ender2070$100-200 ishMay 31 20:37
tessierA tablet with a USB keyboard would be a hot laptop replacement.May 31 20:37
ender2070http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/WonderMedia-SmartTouch-tablets/?kc=rssMay 31 20:37
TechrightsTitle: ARM9-based $100 Android tablets to light up Computex - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.32 KBMay 31 20:37
tessierI coudl carry around my Happy Hacker.May 31 20:38
schestowitzThere'll be a sub-$100 Android one shortly in the expoMay 31 20:38
tessierAnd plug it into the tablet.May 31 20:38
schestowitzender2070: beat me to itMay 31 20:38
MinceRtessier: difficult to use in one's lap, thoughMay 31 20:38
tessierI wouldn't really use it on my lap. I hardly ever use a laptop that way.May 31 20:38
MinceRperhaps also a bit trickier to carryMay 31 20:38
tessierThere is always a desk, tray, table, something to set it on.May 31 20:38
MinceRi often use my netbook on my lap :)May 31 20:38
tessierMost people transport their laptops in some sort of carrying case.May 31 20:38
oiaohmtessier: intel and MS though they would destroy OLPCMay 31 20:39
MinceRthat's why "a bit" is there. :>May 31 20:39
tessieroiaohm: They did, didn't they?May 31 20:39
oiaohmIe they have been kind disapointed as well tessierMay 31 20:39
oiaohmNot really.May 31 20:40
oiaohmThey wanted to stop the idea of cheep devices in it tracks.  tessierMay 31 20:40
oiaohmBefore OLPC no one was aiming at sub 100 dollar devices for general usage.May 31 20:40
oiaohmBig problem OLPC hit is they missed there sub 100 dollar target.May 31 20:41
tessierYep. OLPC definitely did create the netbook market though.May 31 20:42
tessierBut that was a sort of unintended side effect.May 31 20:42
tessierThey created it, lost it, and now we still don't have what we really wanted.May 31 20:42
tessierAnd neither do all of those kids out there in developing worlds, most importantly.May 31 20:42
MinceRwell, i have a netbook i prefer to the XO-1 :>May 31 20:43
tessierOLPC never really defended against the "How can you give kids laptops when so many are starving?" argument either.May 31 20:43
schestowitzTHey starve for other reasonsMay 31 20:44
schestowitzThey are ignorant in some ways so they make more babies than they can feed without facilities they can't build to feed themMay 31 20:44
MinceRfour hundred babies!May 31 20:45
schestowitzMaybe if they jerk OLPC handles instead or other things they will get 'distracted' so to speakMay 31 20:45
schestowitzWestern world seems to have gotten more occupied with gadgets and there's a good example in JapanMay 31 20:45
oiaohmNo it was not tessierMay 31 20:45
schestowitzIn Japan the govt. needs to pay people to have babies. They hardly even marry anymoreMay 31 20:45
oiaohmThe goal of the OLPC was to get cheep devices in the market.May 31 20:45
tessierRight, they starve for other reasons. OLPC's answer has always been that there are plenty of well fed kids out there who now need an education and access to information before they can be productive members of world society.May 31 20:45
oiaohmNever had to be the OLPC.May 31 20:46
schestowitzMinceR: over 9000May 31 20:46
MinceR:)May 31 20:46
oiaohmIntel and MS were played.   tessierMay 31 20:46
tessieroiaohm: They still don't have those devices.May 31 20:46
tessieroiaohm: Your modern netbooks were NOT designed to be handled by children and dropped in the dirt.May 31 20:46
schestowitzfarmers can use technology to plan plantatiobsMay 31 20:46
tessierThey are expensive, proprietary, fragile, and not maintainable.May 31 20:46
schestowitzThus increasing crop yield.. reducing famine from diseases and dead cropsMay 31 20:47
schestowitzThey are just as smart as usMay 31 20:47
tessierOLPC needed to tap in to the first world market to get economies of scale to get the price down to where they could sell these things cheap to kids in developing countries and failed to do so.May 31 20:47
schestowitzThey just don't receive equal educationMay 31 20:47
oiaohmYou have seen shuttles designs recently.   tessierMay 31 20:47
oiaohmFirst stage you need the parts cheep enough.May 31 20:47
oiaohmNext stage you can make them stronger.May 31 20:47
tessierInte, Microsoft, Asus, etc. jumped in and took over the market niche in the first world countries and locked OLPC out so now the kids don't get them either.May 31 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin great ideaMay 31 20:48
tessierIntelMay 31 20:48
schestowitz500000 plastinians kids received OLPC XOs recentlyMay 31 20:48
schestowitzLinuxMay 31 20:48
schestowitzThat ought to help them improve educationMay 31 20:48
oiaohmNow ARM are entering the game tessierMay 31 20:48
schestowitzMaybe less religion and dogma, more pictures and textMay 31 20:48
tessierYes, I am looking forward to ARM.May 31 20:48
tessierschestowitz: No doubt you have read about what happened to that aid convoy. What a mess.May 31 20:48
oiaohmArm would not even be going after the market if they where not shown there is one.May 31 20:48
schestowitzYesMay 31 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Is that an offer of help? You'd be welcome!May 31 20:49
tessierNow Turkey is planning a naval escort for the next one? It's about to get interesting.May 31 20:49
oiaohmBasically OLPC has been successful in many areas.May 31 20:49
oiaohmSad it was not a complete success.May 31 20:49
schestowitzInterferences from Intel and MicrosoftMay 31 20:49
tessieroiaohm: ARM has known there was one all along thanks to mobile phones, iPhone, etc. BILLIONS of ARM processors go into embedded devices every year.May 31 20:49
schestowitzIt's well documented, oiaohmMay 31 20:49
oiaohmBut with all first generation ideas Xerox first computer was a flop too.May 31 20:49
tessierThat was because Xerox still viewed themselves as a paper photocopy company.May 31 20:50
oiaohmNothing strange.   A good idea stands the test of time.May 31 20:50
tessierComputers and the "paperless office" scared the crap out of them.May 31 20:50
tessierThey didn't want to risk making the move and continued to milk their paper business ignoring the potential of computers.May 31 20:50
oiaohmA bad idea fades away.May 31 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Peppermint OS has just been mentioned over on Linux Outlaws!May 31 20:51
cubezzzXerox again :)May 31 20:51
schestowitzXerox sold the anti-Linux patents to AcaciaMay 31 20:51
oiaohmtessier: Arm thought they would require windows to get the desktop market.  May 31 20:51
schestowitzThey have just done a shakeupMay 31 20:52
schestowitzNew CEO last week, IIRCMay 31 20:52
schestowitzFire cracker sale of patentsMay 31 20:52
oiaohmWhat OLPC did was break that assumion tessierMay 31 20:52
oiaohmBasically OLPC has done a lot of good.May 31 20:52
schestowitzDo you know how it came about?May 31 20:52
oiaohmOk not how we hoped but at least it was not a complete failure.May 31 20:52
schestowitzI learned it some months ago from OLPC guysMay 31 20:52
tessierYes, it did. But still failed. It didn't do good for those it intended to do good for.May 31 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin I would help with spade work if needed, never thought of myself as a morning show host thoughMay 31 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] oh this lovely cherries ... when will my tummy free up some more so I can eat some more!May 31 20:53
schestowitzI'll give you the linkMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIt's a videoMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIntel had many spare CPUsMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIt couldn't use themMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIt dumped them on ASUSMay 31 20:53
schestowitzAnd ASUS made from them the EEEMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIntel used that to suffocate AMDMay 31 20:53
schestowitzAnd OLPCMay 31 20:53
schestowitzAnd then ASUS broke the price-fixersMay 31 20:53
oiaohmAlso OLPC shows than MS could give windows away cheep as well.May 31 20:53
schestowitzLet me get you the vidMay 31 20:53
schestowitzIt's Walt BenderMay 31 20:53
oiaohmThat has created the pack of I want cheep OEM's around MS.May 31 20:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera At the moment Im looking at pooling resources/skills...I'll keep you in the loop and then if you decide to, great!May 31 20:54
schestowitzIndex: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/OLPCMay 31 20:54
TechrightsTitle: OLPC - Techrights .::. Size~: 22 KBMay 31 20:54
schestowitzHere: http://techrights.org/2009/12/20/walter-bender-and-olpc-sugar/May 31 20:54
TechrightsTitle: New Information About Intels Attack on OLPC, Bill Gates Hijacks the Educational Systems | Techrights .::. Size~: 111.6 KBMay 31 20:54
schestowitzSee the videoMay 31 20:54
oiaohmReally the OLPC lacked power.May 31 20:55
schestowitzWalter Bender: "“OK, this might be a little bit too slow for our needs, and that Intel still had a couple of Celeron N CPUs on stock that they needed to get rid of, so ASUS stepped in and made the first EEE PC, which became a huge success after they announced it…” "May 31 20:55
oiaohmProcessing power.May 31 20:55
oiaohmThe thing is we all know taking down MS is going to be death by 1000 cuts.May 31 20:55
oiaohmOLPC started a lot of the MS bleed we see today.May 31 20:56
oiaohmFunny part is I don't see any way MS can stop it.May 31 20:56
oiaohmSo in the end what OLPC set out to do might happen like 10 to 20 years latter.May 31 20:56
cubezzzthey could open source windows :)May 31 20:56
cubezzzj/kMay 31 20:57
oiaohmYou can see the source code of windows if you sign a NDAMay 31 20:57
cubezzzall of it?May 31 20:57
cubezzzincluding all device drivers?May 31 20:57
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MinceRand DRM crap?May 31 20:58
cubezzzI bet notMay 31 20:58
MinceRand can you build it and use it to even see if it's really the source code they're using? :>May 31 20:58
cubezzzhere, have the source, no makefiles though :)May 31 20:58
MinceRyes, this really is the source code of windows, you can believe us, honest!May 31 20:59
MinceRpic unrelated >> http://i.imgur.com/GdVV3.pngMay 31 20:59
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBMay 31 20:59
cubezzzports are like thatMay 31 20:59
cubezzzfor gamesMay 31 20:59
cubezzzhere's the source, no makefiles no in-house utiltiesMay 31 20:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin that is why I said spadework, I am as much a techy as I am a brain surgeonMay 31 21:00
DaemonFCthere's where Linux has improvedMay 31 21:00
DaemonFCI don't have to compile my webcam driver and load the module anymoreMay 31 21:00
DaemonFC:PMay 31 21:00
cubezzzyou still couldMay 31 21:00
DaemonFCI see having to stop what you're doing and compile device drivers as a failure of the OSMay 31 21:01
oiaohmIt is all cubezzzMay 31 21:01
cubezzzXerox Alto is quite a collector's item nowMay 31 21:01
cubezzzALU, but no CPUMay 31 21:01
DaemonFCwhat's even better is when they fail and the compiler gives you error codesMay 31 21:02
oiaohmCatch is you are not allowed to build your own version or ship anything based off it.May 31 21:02
DaemonFC3 hours later, the device working is your reward for researching every possible solution on Google :DMay 31 21:02
MinceRso they could be lying when they say it's the source codeMay 31 21:02
MinceRno security, as usualMay 31 21:02
cubezzzwell in theory you could build your own version and just not tell anyone :)May 31 21:02
cubezzzbut why even bother?May 31 21:02
DaemonFCTosh.0 just made fun of ScientologyMay 31 21:03
DaemonFC:DMay 31 21:03
MinceRcubezzz: and if you told anyone "hey, i've done a binary diff and here are a couple of backdoors in winblows..." they'd sue youMay 31 21:03
oiaohmOf course if you are the NSA you are allowed to build your own versions.May 31 21:03
MinceRyes, if you're the NSA then you're handed the keys to the backdoorsMay 31 21:03
DaemonFC"Tom (Cruise) is an Operating Thetan Level 3.... Like Scientology or not, that's impressive! Do you know how much money it takes to get to OT-3? A lot..."May 31 21:03
DaemonFC:PMay 31 21:03
MinceRthere might be some strings attached thoughMay 31 21:03
cubezzzwho made the ALU used in the Xerox Alto?May 31 21:03
cubezzzdid Xerox make ALUs?May 31 21:04
cubezzzor to put it another way, who made the 74181 chip?May 31 21:05
MinceRlol @ nose bootMay 31 21:06
cubezzzTI I guessMay 31 21:06
cubezzzyeahMay 31 21:06
cubezzzoh with MIcrosoft the number of strings attached is infiniteMay 31 21:07
DaemonFCmehMay 31 21:07
DaemonFCI've never bought a Windows upgrade disc in my lifeMay 31 21:07
oiaohmNo Microsoft number of strings is limited.May 31 21:07
cubezzzmake the custoemr pay.... foreverMay 31 21:08
MinceRoiaohm: i doubt you have any idea how much control m$ has over nsa :>May 31 21:08
schestowitzNSA?May 31 21:08
DaemonFCthe way they price Windows, buying a new PC with the new version is usually more cost-effectiveMay 31 21:08
schestowitzThey use SELinuxMay 31 21:08
cubezzzMicrosoft probably tells the government what to doMay 31 21:09
schestowitzNSA is not a classic example of Microsoft lock-in... same with DoD, which is close to itMay 31 21:09
MinceRschestowitz: they probably know pretty well how insecure m$ garbage isMay 31 21:09
cubezzzthey tell them to buy in for schoolsMay 31 21:09
schestowitzcubezzz: there's the whole WIndows for submarines thingMay 31 21:09
schestowitzMinceR: they need to advertise WindowsMay 31 21:09
MinceRand yet m$ probably has a great deal of control over the jesuslandian governmentMay 31 21:09
schestowitzI mean, imagine you are NSA.....May 31 21:09
MinceRschestowitz: i see your pointMay 31 21:09
schestowitzYou WANT everyone to use WindowsMay 31 21:09
oiaohmReally is the reverse MinceRMay 31 21:09
schestowitzEspecially CHINAMay 31 21:09
cubezzzthey do, of course, senators were always fawning over GatesMay 31 21:09
oiaohmHow much control does the NSA have over MS.May 31 21:10
cubezzz"what should we do Mr Gates?"May 31 21:10
MinceRoiaohm: i doubt their situation is so much different from the rest of the jesuslandian governmentMay 31 21:10
schestowitzApple has back doors tooMay 31 21:10
oiaohmNSA is different.May 31 21:10
schestowitzApple denies them stillMay 31 21:10
schestowitzBut RMS changed his talkMay 31 21:10
oiaohmNSA internals depend on linux and other OS of that class not windows.May 31 21:11
schestowitzPlausaible deniabilityMay 31 21:11
oiaohmBut NSA depends on people running windows so they have back doors.   MinceRMay 31 21:11
MinceRoiaohm: they probably also depend on backdoors in proprietary OSesMay 31 21:11
DaemonFC3 days until I have moneyMay 31 21:11
schestowitzWe know for a fact that NSA is working on SUSE, Windows, and OS X. I'm not sure about RHAT, but there's SELinuxMay 31 21:11
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MinceRoiaohm: they also depend on all that data the megacorps are so very eager to feed themMay 31 21:11
DaemonFCit's like that Pepsi machine mirage May 31 21:11
DaemonFCoff in the distanceMay 31 21:11
MinceR(including google)May 31 21:11
oiaohmThey also would not be passed adding back doors either MinceR.May 31 21:11
DaemonFCin the middle of the desertMay 31 21:11
MinceRoiaohm: indeedMay 31 21:11
DaemonFCthen you get there and it's an RC Cola machineMay 31 21:11
cubezzzit's almostly consumerism if you think about itMay 31 21:11
oiaohmRemember who ever controls the update servers controls the OS.May 31 21:12
cubezzzyou don't really need to buy a new computer every 2 yearsMay 31 21:12
MinceRoiaohm: that makes winblows even scarier.May 31 21:12
oiaohmThat was used in the gulf war to shutdown computers.  MinceRMay 31 21:12
oiaohmAt NSA request.May 31 21:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: what's wrong with RC?May 31 21:12
MinceRoiaohm: got an article on that?May 31 21:12
DaemonFCschestowitz, I don't like itMay 31 21:12
cubezzzlolMay 31 21:12
MinceRit would interest me and it would be interesting to show to the fanboys.May 31 21:12
cubezzzopen colaMay 31 21:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: brand or taste?May 31 21:12
cubezzzftwMay 31 21:12
DaemonFCtasteMay 31 21:13
schestowitzC.O.L.AdvocacyMay 31 21:13
DaemonFCtheir flavored Diet Rite isn't bad thoughMay 31 21:13
DaemonFCI like the strawberry kiwi oneMay 31 21:13
oiaohmDid have MinceR.May 31 21:13
DaemonFCthey never have it in machines thoughMay 31 21:13
schestowitzCoke has fanbois tooMay 31 21:13
schestowitzThey associate themselves with sexy people skiing and doing all kinds of 'cool' stuff like in the adsMay 31 21:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, Pepsi stuff goes on sale all the time for 84 cents per 2 literMay 31 21:14
DaemonFCso that's usually what I stock up onMay 31 21:14
cubezzzI admit I tried Vanilla Coke onceMay 31 21:14
cubezzzI was weak :)May 31 21:14
schestowitzSo... pretty much like the Apple brand, but Apple mixes hardware, Coke is mixing some chemicalsMay 31 21:14
DaemonFCVanilla Pepsi is betterMay 31 21:14
DaemonFC:DMay 31 21:14
cubezzzso why did Texas Instruments stop selling computers?May 31 21:17
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dfKEAtOzIMay 31 21:17
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Grandma Plays Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (XBox 360) .::. Size~: 85.8 KBMay 31 21:17
DaemonFCstill one of my favoritesMay 31 21:18
DaemonFCOblivion had a good soundtrackMay 31 21:18
schestowitzDoes anyone use Chrome here?May 31 21:19
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Google-Chrome-5-/?kc=rssMay 31 21:19
TechrightsTitle: Chrome 5 release includes first stable Linux version - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.68 KBMay 31 21:19
cubezzzTI is very significant... first integrated circuitMay 31 21:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm using itMay 31 21:20
DaemonFCwith PrivoxyMay 31 21:20
Diablo-D3stable my assMay 31 21:20
schestowitzAre there chromium builds with heaps of plugins preloaded?May 31 21:20
DaemonFCI like itMay 31 21:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, SRWare Iron maybeMay 31 21:20
DaemonFCif you're worried about privacyMay 31 21:20
schestowitzI know this oneMay 31 21:20
Diablo-D3[04:11:07] <cubezzz> I admit I tried Vanilla Coke onceMay 31 21:21
schestowitzIt's nothing like FlockMay 31 21:21
Diablo-D3it smells like vanillaMay 31 21:21
MinceRi'm still using firefox :>May 31 21:21
schestowitzSame hereMay 31 21:21
MinceRi liked vanilla coke except for the intense sour aftertasteMay 31 21:21
Diablo-D3pepsi vanilla tastes like vanilla, but doesnt smell like itMay 31 21:21
MinceRthat i could do withoutMay 31 21:21
schestowitzGratitude to the company which took me off Konqueror 3.1May 31 21:21
Diablo-D3wait, maybe I got those backwardsMay 31 21:21
schestowitzAnd Mozilla 1.7May 31 21:21
schestowitz~2003May 31 21:21
schestowitzIt's Mozilla which made the Web more cross-browser/platformMay 31 21:21
schestowitzHardly so with Apple, which offered IE back thenMay 31 21:22
Diablo-D3BUT BUT BUT BUT MOZILLA DESTROYED THE INTERWEBSMay 31 21:22
schestowitzMac OS 9 was still used by someMay 31 21:22
Diablo-D3THE GRANDMASTER BILL H GATES TOLD MEMay 31 21:22
Diablo-D3AND HES NEVER WRONGMay 31 21:22
Diablo-D3ALL HAIL GATESMay 31 21:22
schestowitz:-) Aww...May 31 21:22
MinceRlulzMay 31 21:22
schestowitzThe brave knight on the white horseMay 31 21:22
DaemonFCthe only part I hated about Oblivion was when the attack music started and it turned out to be a mudcrab or somethingMay 31 21:22
schestowitzHe rode his horse to the dark mountainMay 31 21:22
DaemonFC:)May 31 21:22
schestowitzTook his armor offMay 31 21:22
MinceRi never had the chance to try vanilla pepsiMay 31 21:22
schestowitzDived into the dumpsterMay 31 21:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, I saved my XBOX 360 controllerMay 31 21:22
Diablo-D3MinceR: well, one smells like it, one tastes like itMay 31 21:23
Diablo-D3I forget which is whichMay 31 21:23
DaemonFCthat's the only part of it I have leftMay 31 21:23
schestowitzTook the code and ran away on his horsieMay 31 21:23
MinceRDiablo-D3: i think that smell and taste are pretty closely relatedMay 31 21:23
Diablo-D3MinceR: they areMay 31 21:23
Diablo-D3especially with vanillaMay 31 21:23
Diablo-D3the taste of vanilla is the smellMay 31 21:23
MinceR(afaik you can only taste a mix of the basic tastes, everything else is actually smell)May 31 21:23
Diablo-D3I think its pepsi vanilla that smells like itMay 31 21:23
Diablo-D3you know whats horrible though?May 31 21:24
Diablo-D3things that taste like how turpintine smellsMay 31 21:24
cubezzzyeah I stopped drinking pop years agoMay 31 21:24
DaemonFCI've gotten bored and played some of the Oblivion soundtrack on my clarinet May 31 21:24
DaemonFCI should record it and put it on YOutube :PMay 31 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 Yes. I know that very well.May 31 21:25
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AhRH8keAU&feature=PlayList&p=9FCE5E1C6D56521A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1May 31 21:26
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Oblivion Soundtrack - 12 - Watchman's Ease .::. Size~: 92.66 KBMay 31 21:26
DaemonFCthat one is easy for the clarinetMay 31 21:27
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Freescale-iMX535/?kc=rss "compatible with Android, Linux, Windows Embedded CE, and Chromium."May 31 21:27
TechrightsTitle: Freescale Cortex-A8 SoC advances to 1080p video - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.63 KBMay 31 21:27
schestowitzChromiumOS?May 31 21:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, could I be sued for that?May 31 21:27
schestowitzIf grandma gets angryMay 31 21:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @qu1j0t3 And to be honest with you, this particular issue is very complicated, and very sensitive too, if you know what I mean.May 31 21:28
DaemonFCpay the fine or go to jailMay 31 21:28
DaemonFCfuckMay 31 21:28
DaemonFCbastardsMay 31 21:28
DaemonFCalways doing this shit to me!May 31 21:28
DaemonFC:DMay 31 21:28
cubezzznote that pop is far cheaper than fruit juiceMay 31 21:29
DaemonFCcubezzz, Corn Syrup Juice?May 31 21:30
DaemonFC(Sunny Delight"May 31 21:30
cubezzzno, I don't drink that eitherMay 31 21:30
DaemonFC99% high fructose corn syrup, 0.5% yellow number 5, 0.5% real California orange juiceMay 31 21:30
DaemonFCfortified with vitamin C!May 31 21:30
DaemonFCyes parents, give your kids this after soccer practice and they'll bne diabetic by age 14!May 31 21:31
DaemonFCOnly Sunny D has this kind of nutrition!May 31 21:31
cubezzzpomegranate juice is about $3.25 per litreMay 31 21:31
cubezzzI'd buy it concentrated if I could find itMay 31 21:32
oiaohmI grow my own fruit.May 31 21:32
oiaohmOther than apple most juice makers here don't know how to juice without pith.May 31 21:32
oiaohmWhat really stuffs the taste.May 31 21:33
scientesahhhhMay 31 21:34
scientespom is sooo goodMay 31 21:34
scientescubezzz, if you find pomagranent concentrate tell meMay 31 21:34
cubezzzI will if it existsMay 31 21:34
DaemonFCOblivion is one of my favorite games ever for some reasonMay 31 21:34
scienteswhere is it 3.25 a litre?May 31 21:34
DaemonFCI think I associate it with my one day off from Walmart every weekMay 31 21:35
cubezzzCanadaMay 31 21:35
cubezzzsouthern Ontario May 31 21:35
oiaohmI use to make money making up juice for one of the pubs.May 31 21:35
scientesi cant get it for that priceMay 31 21:35
DaemonFCoiaohm, Screwdrivers?May 31 21:35
DaemonFC:DMay 31 21:35
scienteslove that stuffMay 31 21:35
scientesso much antioxidantsMay 31 21:36
scientesalso: blueberriesMay 31 21:36
DaemonFCI'm not really that pickyMay 31 21:36
DaemonFCI usually don't drink hard liquor thoughMay 31 21:36
DaemonFCjust beerMay 31 21:36
oiaohmVeration of ScrewdriversMay 31 21:36
*tessier has never had more than a few sips of alcohol his entire lifeMay 31 21:37
tessierNever been my thing.May 31 21:37
schestowitzwell coneMay 31 21:37
schestowitz*doneMay 31 21:37
tessierNot any particular reason other than it just seems to make people stupid.May 31 21:37
schestowitzIt's a cultural thingMay 31 21:38
oiaohmmandarin fruit.   It from the famaily of oranges.May 31 21:38
tessierBut not having grown up around it helps.May 31 21:38
schestowitzThere are drugs for different classesMay 31 21:38
*scientes doesn't drinkMay 31 21:38
tessierKids really do emulate their parents in a lot of ways.May 31 21:38
*tessier wonders what the drug of his class isMay 31 21:38
schestowitzSome we call "drunks", others we call "alcohol" or "beer" or "Wine"May 31 21:38
squarepeghey, what's up May 31 21:38
tessierFood probably.May 31 21:38
squarepeg(balzac)May 31 21:38
tessierComputers and technology for my class in particular. :)May 31 21:38
schestowitzBut alcohol is some of the more harmful long termMay 31 21:38
schestowitzhey, BalzacMay 31 21:38
*DaemonFC slaps schestowitz with IE 6May 31 21:38
DaemonFClighten up :PMay 31 21:39
cubezzzin boycottnovell we never jokeMay 31 21:39
oiaohmEver had a mandarin based Screwdriver DaemonFCMay 31 21:39
DaemonFCnopeMay 31 21:39
squarepegHi RoyMay 31 21:39
cubezzzthat was a joke :)May 31 21:39
squarepegI like the new domainMay 31 21:39
schestowitzThanksMay 31 21:39
tessierVery slowly we here in the US (especially .ca.us) are inching our way towards legalizing marijuana. And when that happens and the economic pinch goes on the drug dealers for the first time ever and people realize society doesn't collapse we'll legalize more.May 31 21:39
schestowitztessier's nameMay 31 21:39
DaemonFC" "The future for IE is as bright as it's been any time over the past five years," he says. "IE8 is the fastest-growing browser in history: it's the number one browser on Windows, and the number one across all OSs. The simple truth comes down to: every single day, more users are choosing Internet Explorer 8 than any other modern browser out there.""May 31 21:40
*DaemonFC vomitsMay 31 21:40
schestowitzThe only real drug I ever "did" is called alcoholMay 31 21:40
schestowitzLast did this drug 2 weeks agoMay 31 21:40
tessierI've never smoked either. I hate those stoned hippies yelling "Legalize it, man!" I look at it from a supply/demand point of view.May 31 21:40
cubezzzone number across all OSes?May 31 21:40
cubezzzhow can that be?May 31 21:40
DaemonFCcubezzz, Wine maybe?May 31 21:40
DaemonFCI was thinking the same thingMay 31 21:40
oiaohmReally not thinking IE8 does not run in wine.May 31 21:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: wine the program?May 31 21:41
cubezzzhahaMay 31 21:41
squarepegyou should smoke marijuana once in a while, tessier May 31 21:41
squarepegit's good for youMay 31 21:41
tessierVery doubtful.May 31 21:41
schestowitzIt's notMay 31 21:41
DaemonFCacross ALL of them May 31 21:41
oiaohmMS says IE8 is highest grown.May 31 21:41
squarepegalso, crumble a crack rock on a bluntMay 31 21:41
schestowitzIt causes throat cancer sometimesMay 31 21:41
oiaohmBut they don't say there overall market share is going backwards.May 31 21:41
schestowitzIn medical use it has its placeMay 31 21:41
squarepegmarijuana is healthyMay 31 21:41
DaemonFCas long as it's Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, or Windows 7May 31 21:41
DaemonFCthat's all operating systems, right?May 31 21:41
oiaohmMost of the growth is people applying updates.  DaemonFCMay 31 21:41
squarepegcocaine is good once in a while as wellMay 31 21:41
tessierIt is worse the cigarettes. If someone would package up the THC in a much safer to consume pill form I might buy that.May 31 21:42
DaemonFCyeah, they spread it via Windows UpdateMay 31 21:42
DaemonFCit's not all many people's computers by choiceMay 31 21:42
tessierBut even then I would have to see some studies and it would probably only be better than the disease for certain ailments.May 31 21:42
cubezzzsave your money for computer junk :)May 31 21:42
oiaohmMS is trying to make self look good that is all DaemonFCMay 31 21:42
squarepegtessier: the THC pills are very niceMay 31 21:42
squarepegI recommend themMay 31 21:42
schestowitzsquarepeg: enough, pleaseMay 31 21:42
schestowitzYour chatter makes us look like hard drugs proponentsMay 31 21:42
tessierby "buy" I mean believe. Not actually purchase for myself.May 31 21:42
DaemonFC"XP is a fantastic operating system, it was simply built for a different time. The security profile from nine years ago is not the security profile needed today." he saysMay 31 21:43
*tessier is off to lunchMay 31 21:43
squarepegsorry, I didn't mean to excite your drug receptors with all that drug talkMay 31 21:43
schestowitzXP SP2 expires shortlyMay 31 21:43
oiaohmLOLMay 31 21:43
cubezzzJust to clarify I was talking about Coke the _drink_ :)May 31 21:43
schestowitzhttp://www.techworld.com.au/article/348312/windows_xp_sp2_retirement_looms_puts_users_tough_spot?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1May 31 21:43
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oiaohmXP secuirty profile is way older than 9 years go.May 31 21:43
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cubezzzall the old computer folks will be SOLMay 31 21:44
cubezzzwhen XP becomes extinctMay 31 21:44
DaemonFCschestowitz, I looked over the main difference between Avast Free and Avast ProMay 31 21:44
DaemonFCbiggest difference seems to be a "browser sandbox"May 31 21:45
cubezzzamong dozers anywayMay 31 21:45
DaemonFCthey don't really explain what that isMay 31 21:45
DaemonFCor how it worksMay 31 21:45
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cubezzzpomegranate concentrate exists btwMay 31 21:47
cubezzzhttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LRH726/cheap-engineering-book-20May 31 21:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] mozilla-svg-edit ,most simple, light weight svg editor will be available in Fedora. where is Ubuntu team?. http://bit.ly/cwKRob #svgMay 31 21:49
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cubezzzhttp://www.brownwoodacres.com/pomegranate_juice_concentrate.phpMay 31 21:49
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm surprised at how much they improved PrivoxyMay 31 21:49
DaemonFCvery much worth using nowMay 31 21:49
DaemonFCoiaohm, is it jsut me or is antivirus as a whole getting less effective every year?May 31 21:51
oiaohmIts not you.  DaemonFCMay 31 21:52
oiaohmThe end of days of the anti-virus method is coming.May 31 21:52
cubezzzon the windows machines I have to support (which is very few) I had removed tcp/ip capabilityMay 31 21:52
oiaohmI warned about it years ago.May 31 21:52
oiaohmEvery year since 2002 the effectivenss of anti-viruses has been droping.May 31 21:53
oiaohmIn 2002 you use to hear of anti-viruses with a 95 percent or high catch rate.May 31 21:53
oiaohmToday you will be lucky if they do 90.May 31 21:53
oiaohmRemember there are a lot more viruses now than 2002May 31 21:54
oiaohmMore and more of the I root kit OS class are appearing.May 31 21:54
oiaohmMeaning scanning from another OS become important.May 31 21:54
oiaohmMore and more require a full format to clean up.May 31 21:54
oiaohmBasically virus cost is blowing out with no sign of getter better any time soon.May 31 21:55
oiaohmLot are placing there hope in cloud based anti-virusesMay 31 21:55
cubezzzI liked my secret cpu idea :)May 31 21:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] RT: @pranesh_prakash: 8 Principles of Open Government Data http://ff.im/-lfabD #open #gov #opengovMay 31 21:57
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oiaohmName the most common cause of breach.  cubezzzMay 31 21:57
DaemonFCI think we're having a miniature earthquakeMay 31 21:57
oiaohmThe User themselves seeking applications.May 31 21:57
cubezzzyes, and running as admin all the timeMay 31 21:58
MinceRand installing all sort of crap without thinking.May 31 21:58
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/c9mza/bp_advertisement_from_1999/May 31 22:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] In future, all sort of communication will go over 3G/4G. network provider (Airtel etc) will only provide Internet. GSM/CDMA will be a pastMay 31 22:24
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPNWX-aIMXkMay 31 22:32
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schestowitzMinceR: http://www.despair.com/bp.htmlMay 31 22:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I have insurance now at leastMay 31 22:34
schestowitzEveryone here doesMay 31 22:34
schestowitzSort ofMay 31 22:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a $150 deductibleMay 31 22:35
DaemonFCafter that, doctor visits are free for the rest of the yearMay 31 22:35
DaemonFC$6.30 co-pay on brand name drugs, I think it's like $2 on genericsMay 31 22:36
DaemonFCwhere I'd really be hurt is if I went to the hospitalMay 31 22:36
DaemonFCthey only cover 80% of thatMay 31 22:36
DaemonFC20% of thousands of dollars a day can still be a hell of a lot of moneyMay 31 22:36
MinceR:)May 31 22:37
DaemonFCI probably need to find a gap plan for hospital staysMay 31 22:37
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLUqf4oekmo skip to 4:00May 31 22:39
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schestowitzFryMay 31 22:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Apparently, the Kin is "the greatest social networking phone that has ever been built." - is that a f'kin joke? #microsoft #kin #failMay 31 22:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Maybe its a joke I'm just not getting. As far as I can see the Kin doesn't even have an IRC client. How can it be the greatest?May 31 22:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Remember the #zune hype.......yep, just everyone owns a zune... http://tinyurl.com/8bte5t #zune #failMay 31 22:54
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schestowitzMinceR: what do you think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGoNJ2B34cMay 31 22:55
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MinceR"An error occurred, please try again later."May 31 22:56
MinceR:>May 31 22:57
MinceRreload fixed it thoughMay 31 22:57
MinceRanyway, my first thought upon seeing the title was (flash) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-1Lj3tWAIk&feature=relatedMay 31 22:58
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MinceR:>May 31 22:59
MinceR"they have to be to complete their training"May 31 23:07
MinceRdisgustingMay 31 23:07
MinceRjesusland allows this place to call itself a "university"?May 31 23:08
DaemonFCMinceR, There's a Jesus "University" here in townMay 31 23:08
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sebsebsebHiMay 31 23:09
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DaemonFCMinceR, They're not supposed to get public funding, but corrupt politicians manage to steer tax dollars to them anywayMay 31 23:09
MinceRicMay 31 23:10
DaemonFCregardless of their hate-spewing filth in admission guidelinesMay 31 23:10
MinceRif i were a citizen of Jesusland, could i just give myself a PhD? :>May 31 23:10
DaemonFCno, you have to go to a diploma mill for thatMay 31 23:10
DaemonFCMinceR, Just to mock the system, I had myself ordained by the Universal Life ChurchMay 31 23:11
DaemonFCthe Supreme Court ruled that the government must respect my authoritahMay 31 23:11
DaemonFCit's ridiculousMay 31 23:11
DaemonFC:)May 31 23:11
MinceRlolMay 31 23:11
MinceRwhat sort of authoritah do you have?May 31 23:11
DaemonFCMinceR, Well, hospitals don't like to turn away priestsMay 31 23:12
DaemonFCso it's also a loophole to see your sick partner in the hospitalMay 31 23:12
MinceRwhat's a "diploma mill"?May 31 23:12
DaemonFCif you're not marriedMay 31 23:12
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DaemonFCMinceR, If I went down to the Motel 6 and started using the room as a base of operations to print out official looking degrees to sell peopleMay 31 23:13
DaemonFCwith the intent of defrauding their employer or potential employerMay 31 23:13
DaemonFCthat's an exampleMay 31 23:13
MinceRwhat would happen then?May 31 23:14
DaemonFCMinceR, Look up Laura CallahanMay 31 23:14
MinceRwhat exactly does give someone the right to hand out degrees in the USA?May 31 23:14
DaemonFCshe was an IT director at the Department of Homeland SecurityMay 31 23:14
DaemonFCBush appointed herMay 31 23:14
DaemonFCshe had a fake degree she used to get inMay 31 23:14
DaemonFCshe really had no job qualifications beyond a high school diplomaMay 31 23:14
MinceRi'm reading about itMay 31 23:15
DaemonFCand she was making $260,000 a year for almost 3 yearsMay 31 23:15
DaemonFCuntil they caught herMay 31 23:15
DaemonFC:DMay 31 23:15
MinceRwhat would it take for someone to found a "university" for himself and give himself a degree?May 31 23:15
DaemonFCthey're worried about terrorists sneaking across the border and they don't even make sure that senior management at DHS actually has a college degreeMay 31 23:16
DaemonFCright....May 31 23:16
MinceRalso, what would it take for someone to found a "church" and ordain himself a priest? -- in both cases in a way that's de jure recognized officiallyMay 31 23:16
DaemonFCMinceR, That's kind of what happened with ULCMay 31 23:16
DaemonFCthey'll ordain anyoneMay 31 23:16
DaemonFCincluding meMay 31 23:16
MinceRwell, as long as they insist on relying on m$ and crApple because they're so 'merkin and patriotic, terrorists are going to walk through their IT systems like the windMay 31 23:17
MinceRDaemonFC: yes, but then you're still relying on an external entityMay 31 23:17
DaemonFCI'm the Reverend Ryan FarmerMay 31 23:17
DaemonFCat least legallyMay 31 23:17
MinceRit would be a lot lulzier if it took no assistanceMay 31 23:17
MinceRafter all anyone can found a church, can they not?May 31 23:17
DaemonFCMinceR, I can legally officiate marriagesMay 31 23:17
DaemonFC:DMay 31 23:17
MinceRi could be my own high priest and godMay 31 23:18
DaemonFCDo you, MinceR, in the eyes of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, take this ham sandwich to be your lawfully wedded bride?May 31 23:18
DaemonFCSo help you Chuck Norris?May 31 23:18
DaemonFC:DMay 31 23:18
MinceRlolMay 31 23:18
MinceRchuck norris sucks thoughMay 31 23:18
DaemonFCI actually learned enough religious latin to freak people outMay 31 23:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] New blog post: Super Computers - All You Probably Di... http://madhatter.ca/2010/05/31/super-computers-all-you-probably-didnt-want-to-know/May 31 23:20
TechrightsTitle: Super Computers  All You Probably Didnt Want To Know «  Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 83.38 KBMay 31 23:20
MinceRapparently technically some accreditation is required in jesusland, like (most likely) elsewhere >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mill#United_StatesMay 31 23:20
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MinceRDaemonFC: Canis Latinus?May 31 23:20
MinceRhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_with_fraudulent_diplomasMay 31 23:21
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DaemonFCEgo te absolvo in nomine Patris, et Filiii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.May 31 23:21
DaemonFCgo and sin no more, my childMay 31 23:21
DaemonFC:PMay 31 23:21
MinceR:)May 31 23:21
MinceRsurprisingly, i understood thatMay 31 23:21
DaemonFC:)May 31 23:21
*DaemonFC crosses himselfMay 31 23:21
*MinceR crosshairsMay 31 23:21
MinceRi still am interested in what's needed to legally ordain a priest in the USAMay 31 23:22
*DaemonFC takes his super soaker full of holy water and hoses MinceR downMay 31 23:22
DaemonFCthat should do you for a whileMay 31 23:22
MinceRofficially recognized tax-exempt church status?May 31 23:22
MinceRew, i don't want it to do meMay 31 23:22
*MinceR brings up his Personal Force Field before the water can reach himMay 31 23:23
DaemonFCMinceR, same requirements as any 503(c)May 31 23:23
DaemonFCnon-profitMay 31 23:23
DaemonFCany money taken in by the organization has to be spent on running the organization by the end of the tax yearMay 31 23:23
MinceRso technically any non-profit organization can ordain priests?May 31 23:23
DaemonFCif the money pays a person's salary, they pay the personal income taxMay 31 23:23
DaemonFCthe government loosely defines religious organizationMay 31 23:24
DaemonFCso yesMay 31 23:24
MinceRfunMay 31 23:24
MinceRwhat sort of perks do they offer to priests, besides the ability to marry people?May 31 23:24
MinceRs/rt/rts/May 31 23:24
DaemonFCthere's some that use the church as a cover to use illegal narcoticsMay 31 23:25
DaemonFCrecreationallyMay 31 23:25
DaemonFCand the Supreme Court has exempted them from drug lawsMay 31 23:25
MinceRmakes senseMay 31 23:25
MinceRoopsMay 31 23:25
MinceRs/rk/rks/May 31 23:25
DaemonFCyeah, if they ever catch me smoking pot, it was Jesus that told me to do itMay 31 23:26
DaemonFCI'll be out of jail before dinnerMay 31 23:26
DaemonFC:PMay 31 23:26
MinceRjesus? that's so unoriginalMay 31 23:26
MinceRit's good to work in IT >> http://i.imgur.com/rAOVT.jpgMay 31 23:27
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DaemonFCold tricks are the best onesMay 31 23:27
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DaemonFCMinceR, I saw that Congress is talking about the synthetic life thing. At first I thought they'd do a knee jerk reaction and ban it on religious fearmongering under the thinly veiled disguise of "ethical concerns", ala human cloning.May 31 23:29
MinceRand they haven't done so yet?May 31 23:29
DaemonFCBut much to my amazement, they want to issue research grants to see if we can make lifeforms that produce oilMay 31 23:29
DaemonFCwell, oil trumps Jesus I guessMay 31 23:29
MinceRlolMay 31 23:29
sebsebsebOk article and a great comment http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010053100535RVSWMay 31 23:30
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MinceRthus the Cult of the Almighty Money defeats the Cult of CatholicismMay 31 23:30
DaemonFCJesus died for our sins and over the last two millenia he's decomposed into a few quarts of oil tooMay 31 23:30
tessierI certainly prefer the cult of moneyMay 31 23:30
DaemonFCCan you see why he's worshipped, MinceR?May 31 23:30
DaemonFCI know I canMay 31 23:30
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MinceRindeedMay 31 23:31
MinceRthat explains a few thingsMay 31 23:31
MinceRthough i'm not sure if they believe that jesus left his physical body behindMay 31 23:31
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sebsebseboiaohm: Hi :)  Ok article, but a great comment check it out http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010053100535RVSWMay 31 23:32
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DaemonFC`MinceR, I thought about forming a more perfect offshoot of CatholicismMay 31 23:32
MinceRs/Catholicism/Jesus/May 31 23:32
MinceRi forgot that there were many cults ruling Jesusland :)May 31 23:32
DaemonFC`the annointment oil will b e replaced with 5w20 VavlvolineMay 31 23:32
DaemonFC`*ValvolineMay 31 23:32
MinceRDaemonFC`: only if Valvoline pays enoughMay 31 23:33
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MinceRcontinuallyMay 31 23:33
DaemonFC`yeah, otherwise we're have to use Shell with Rotella-TMay 31 23:33
MinceRand if someone pays more, the scripture will changeMay 31 23:33
DaemonFC`MinceR, What is Rotella-T?May 31 23:33
MinceRdunnoMay 31 23:33
DaemonFC`buzzword?May 31 23:33
DaemonFC`what they named their particular cheap package of chemical detergents?May 31 23:34
DaemonFC`:DMay 31 23:34
MinceRbut if they pay enough, that's what the anointing oil will be.May 31 23:34
DaemonFC`MinceR, indeedMay 31 23:34
MinceRmoney talks.May 31 23:34
MinceRand the flock listens.May 31 23:34
DaemonFC`actually, I use recycled oil in my carMay 31 23:34
DaemonFC`always have, works fineMay 31 23:34
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DaemonFC`they basically just clean used motor oil and then put a fresh detergent package in itMay 31 23:35
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DaemonFCMinceR, MinceR motor oil can be reused many times overMay 31 23:36
DaemonFCpeople are just stupidMay 31 23:36
DaemonFCthey think that if they pay 3 times as much for brand name new oil, they're getting a dealMay 31 23:36
MinceRi've never used MinceR motor oilMay 31 23:36
MinceRnot even onceMay 31 23:36
DaemonFCI'd rather just get mine for 75 cents a quartMay 31 23:37
DaemonFCthat's a pretty good price I thinkMay 31 23:37
MinceRi don't change oil often :>May 31 23:37
DaemonFC4.5 quarts plus a $3 filterMay 31 23:37
DaemonFCdoesn't even cost me $8 to change my oilMay 31 23:37
DaemonFCyou go to one of those oil change places, they want $20 or soMay 31 23:38
DaemonFC"We'll check your blinkers and vacuum the floor!"May 31 23:38
DaemonFCcause it's not like I can do thisMay 31 23:38
DaemonFC:DMay 31 23:38
cubezzzhehMay 31 23:39
cubezzzMincer Motor OilMay 31 23:39
DaemonFCAll those "For only $5 more" deals you get hit with every day really add upMay 31 23:39
DaemonFCtake a huge fucking bite out of your savingsMay 31 23:39
DaemonFC:PMay 31 23:39
MinceRi don't get hit with them every day :>May 31 23:39
cubezzzpeople will pay for convenienceMay 31 23:40
MinceRpeople will also pay for getting things done quickerMay 31 23:40
MinceR(i know, that's what she said)May 31 23:41
cubezzzyeah no one likes waitingMay 31 23:41
MinceRit isn't just preferenceMay 31 23:41
MinceRwasted time costs moneyMay 31 23:41
MinceRsince in that time you could be working if you chose to :)May 31 23:42
DaemonFCI think I'm going to try some Redbox codesMay 31 23:42
DaemonFCsee if I can get a stack of free rentalsMay 31 23:42
DaemonFC:PMay 31 23:42
cubezzzI find a lot of time is burned up looking for informationMay 31 23:43
MinceRindeedMay 31 23:44
schestowitz"looking up"?May 31 23:54
*schestowitz thinks of someone praying to the skyMay 31 23:54
schestowitzMinceR: yes, they have different competing businessesMay 31 23:55
schestowitzThat's why there is diversityMay 31 23:55
schestowitzThere is a big market for them in south AmericaMay 31 23:55
schestowitz[23:10] <MinceR> if i were a citizen of Jesusland, could i just give myself a PhD? :>May 31 23:55
schestowitzFrom what I gathered, it's also a lot easy to become professors thereMay 31 23:55
schestowitzYou don't even need to lecture and they have adjunct/assistant/other professorMay 31 23:56
schestowitzSo some colleagues of mine who didn't even lecture would put down on US paper professor because in the US they are qualified to call themselves that. If you look at UK faculties you will find few professors and many doctors compared to the US where it's the oppositeMay 31 23:57

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