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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @omar_s_hafez I sensed it might be, which is why I asked you about it rather than tweeting the question :) | Jun 01 00:02 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmmmm | Jun 01 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | using Chrome Adblock on top of Privoxy | Jun 01 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 01 00:11 |
| cubezzz | it would be nice to have x11perf results for every radeon card | Jun 01 00:11 |
| cubezzz | that's my next project :-/ | Jun 01 00:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Spits on Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/04mxv Apple’s action in the face of #GPL violations speaks volumes | Jun 01 00:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@5MillionPeople Straw House Survives the Test of Hurricane-force Winds... http://bit.ly/9OoGtO // do you have comment from 3 little pigs? | Jun 01 00:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder how a Geforce GT 240 stacks up to the RadeonHD 4670 | Jun 01 00:25 |
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| tessier | http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/31/south.korea.message/index.html I can just see Kim Ding Dong screaming at his Little Red Army... "YOU SHOOT BAROONS, YOU SHOOT BAROONS"! ROFL | Jun 01 00:26 |
| Techrights | Title: Helium balloons float propaganda into North Korea - CNN.com .::. Size~: 45.07 KB | Jun 01 00:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://bit.ly/9Mn1OO good read. 'Ms Atwood is #Israel’s most recent stooge-laureate..repeats same half-truths, obfuscations & lies' #canada | Jun 01 00:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Margaret Atwood Cashes In | Intifada Palestine .::. Size~: 69.03 KB | Jun 01 00:27 |
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| tessier | Crap on a stick! | Jun 01 00:33 |
| tessier | Facebook/CNN just linked my two profiles together! | Jun 01 00:33 |
| *tessier clicks "disable facebook connect" | Jun 01 00:34 | |
| DaemonFC | I may try going RadeonHD 5670 again | Jun 01 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | no open box deal this time | Jun 01 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | I knew that $89 for one with a GB of RAM was too good to be true | Jun 01 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | and it worked great for a few days | Jun 01 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 00:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rumours of Additional (Stealth) #Microsoft #Layoffs http://ur1.ca/04n1d Microsoft is said to be shrinking, still | Jun 01 00:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Those armed commandos were very foolish, putting themselves in danger from unarmed people like that. They could have stayed home. | Jun 01 00:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@JPBarlow I am not an anti-Semite. ... But it's time to cut #Israel loose. // Arabs are a Semitic race | Jun 01 00:46 | |
| tessier | schestowitz: You still monitoring the mini-microsoft blog? H ementioned stealth layoffs recently. Ah, I see you linked to mini-microsoft there. Cool. | Jun 01 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Of couse I read it :-) | Jun 01 00:46 |
| tessier | I wonder how he can't be exposed. He needs to be very careful if he really is an anonymous insider. | Jun 01 00:46 |
| schestowitz | He almost got caught in 06 or 07 | Jun 01 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Some wifi network in starbucks | Jun 01 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Facebook shut down his/her account | Jun 01 00:47 |
| tessier | I wonder why he does this. Why does he keep working there? | Jun 01 00:47 |
| tessier | Just to be able to leak info? For what purpose? | Jun 01 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 01 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | go me | Jun 01 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 01 00:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Goes Deeper Into the Surveillance Business http://ur1.ca/04n2v Microsoft’s “Tag” is about tagging people and profiling them | Jun 01 00:55 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: he thought about leaving | Jun 01 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Several times he said around 2008 | Jun 01 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking for a single decker card | Jun 01 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | the double decker 5670s want a hookup to the PSU | Jun 01 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | might get the XFX model | Jun 01 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | I really liked the XFX Geforce I had | Jun 01 01:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Oh dear Lord. RT @Regretsy Fallen Arches http://www.regretsy.com/2010/05/31/fallen-arches/ | Jun 01 01:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even #Microsoft Rejects or Neglects #OOXML , ‘Opens’ What’s Already Reverse-Engineered Instead http://ur1.ca/04n85 Anothe reason for #ODF | Jun 01 01:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@etsyjulianne educate yourself. #kthxbai | Jun 01 01:41 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3mi27T4ZII | Jun 01 02:29 |
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| oiaohm | http://news.netcraft.com/ssl-survey/ Hmm wonder if next years ssl-survey has Linux in front. | Jun 01 02:41 |
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| oiaohm | So meaning MS is not leading in any section of web. | Jun 01 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC | anyone who says cats relieve stress have never had one poop on the floor or try to attack expensive electronic equipment | Jun 01 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Or be alergic to them. | Jun 01 02:57 |
| oiaohm | I still like when doing voletree work telling the person that cats don't like me and I don't like them. | Jun 01 02:58 |
| oiaohm | Person was shocked to see that cats would not come anywhere near me. But dogs loved me. | Jun 01 02:58 |
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| tessier | Can you imagine sit showing up at a coke dealer with a wheelbarrow full of quarter rolls? ROFL | Jun 01 03:39 |
| tessier | Darn irssi windowing. It sucks. | Jun 01 03:40 |
| tessier | Pick one with a really big purse! | Jun 01 03:40 |
| tessier | damn it | Jun 01 03:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Plus the talk page http://is.gd/cxC8t- RT @CodyBrown: Want to see a train wreck? History page for the Flotilla Clash http://bit.ly/d0bQkN | Jun 01 03:42 | |
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| ender2070 | I got the database back | Jun 01 04:11 |
| ender2070 | pre-hacked | Jun 01 04:12 |
| ender2070 | im merging the two blogs as we speak | Jun 01 04:12 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/31/google-we-dont-do-windows/ | Jun 01 04:23 |
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| oiaohm | Ok so what site is yours ender2070 | Jun 01 04:38 |
| oiaohm | Opps sorry ender2070 I though that would have been in the boycottnovell private channel. | Jun 01 04:39 |
| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca | Jun 01 04:48 |
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| ender2070 | its okay, not private | Jun 01 04:48 |
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| ender2070 | yay its back | Jun 01 04:56 |
| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=516 | Jun 01 04:56 |
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| ender2070 | everyones old links should work now too | Jun 01 04:56 |
| DaemonFC` | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMwNg | Jun 01 05:06 |
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| DaemonFC` | just in time for the arrival of my 5670 | Jun 01 05:06 |
| DaemonFC` | :) | Jun 01 05:06 |
| DaemonFC` | oiaohm, You here? | Jun 01 05:07 |
| *DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Finished tracking another song on drums. Sounding great. :-) #severedfifth | Jun 01 05:14 | |
| oiaohm | Yep why DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | Tell me that the 5000 series won't be a gigantic catastrophe on Linux like earlier Radeons were | Jun 01 05:16 |
| oiaohm | Um | Jun 01 05:16 |
| oiaohm | Driver is still early stage. So closed source driver most likely recommend at first. DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Define catastrophe and how early. | Jun 01 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | uhhm, released in September of 2008 | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | Still barely works with the FOSS stack in May of 2010 | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | if you guessed RadeonHD 4670, you're correct | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | that kind of catastrophe | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | as in, by the time it works right, it's been obsolete for years | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | is the 5000 series doomed to that? | Jun 01 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | "We're compatible with the Radeon X1800, finally people with graphics cards from 2004 are free!" | Jun 01 05:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Congrats to @aveeksen . One of the student who is getting fulltime mentor-ship by ME at my office and involved in my open source activities. | Jun 01 05:21 | |
| cubezzz | but my graphics card is older than 2004 | Jun 01 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | if I have to use Catalyst, does it suck as bad on the 5000 series as it did on older cards? | Jun 01 05:22 |
| cubezzz | so far I like mobility 7500 | Jun 01 05:23 |
| cubezzz | it's open, it does 3d, it basically works | Jun 01 05:23 |
| cubezzz | no problems | Jun 01 05:23 |
| cubezzz | it even supports hyperz | Jun 01 05:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I need a CMS where user can create account, upload pics, share them. may be similar to flickr. should be free of cost and FOSS. #suggestions | Jun 01 05:26 | |
| oiaohm | Catalyst at least these days resonably works. DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:27 |
| oiaohm | It still could take a year for 5000 to be fully operating. DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | the open source broadcom firmware cured my biggest Linux gripe ever | Jun 01 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Basically each cycle its getting shorter. DaemonFC | Jun 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh my god, I have to tether it to an ethernet cord and spend 20 minutes dicking around copying files as root and hoping the light comes on" | Jun 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | no more of that, it just works now | Jun 01 05:28 |
| cubezzz | ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series seems to be the newest supported card | Jun 01 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, depends what you mean by support | Jun 01 05:29 |
| cubezzz | or ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series | Jun 01 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | is a saltine cracker not a feast to a starving man? | Jun 01 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 05:29 |
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| DaemonFC | you know, I have to admit some of these Windows 7 Character theme wallpapers are kind of good | Jun 01 05:29 |
| cubezzz | Proviso: I've never tried it | Jun 01 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, When you're wondering why your $400 GPU can't resize windows as quickly with the ATI driver as you can with Vesa..... | Jun 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | call that "support" if you want | Jun 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | I call it a halfassed job | Jun 01 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's why Ubuntu defaults to not showing the window contents during resize if you have Compiz on | Jun 01 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | workaround for that very obvious and painful ATI problem | Jun 01 05:32 |
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| DaemonFC | ATI makes great hardware, but you really can't use it without Windows | Jun 01 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | I mean you can, at half speed with a lot of bugs maybe | Jun 01 05:33 |
| cubezzz | I've had zero problems on mobility 7500 | Jun 01 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | whoever is responsible for FGLRX needs to die in a fire | Jun 01 05:34 |
| cubezzz | and I compiled the driver myself | Jun 01 05:34 |
| cubezzz | another proviso: I did it on Fedora 10 | Jun 01 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | if ATI released a driver of FGLRX quality for Windows, Microsoft wouldn't sign off on it | Jun 01 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | Apple wouldn't either | Jun 01 05:35 |
| cubezzz | I was lucky, I blindly picked a Panasonic Toughbook which could be 99% FOSS based | Jun 01 05:35 |
| cubezzz | except for the bios | Jun 01 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Hardware Quality Labs has higher standards than what ATI's Linux drivers meet | Jun 01 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | think about that | Jun 01 05:36 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, sound to me you are: | Jun 01 05:36 |
| cubezzz | 1) pirating windows or | Jun 01 05:36 |
| cubezzz | 2) giviing your money to Microsoft | Jun 01 05:36 |
| cubezzz | right? | Jun 01 05:37 |
| cubezzz | one of those two | Jun 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, it owuld be nice if there was some minimal benchmark of quality for Linux drivers to meet | Jun 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | I mean there is if they're a part of the kernel itself | Jun 01 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | but ATI can release a driver that skullfucks you and get away with it | Jun 01 05:37 |
| cubezzz | ok, ask oiaohm what he uses | Jun 01 05:38 |
| cubezzz | or Diablo-D3 even | Jun 01 05:38 |
| cubezzz | get another viewpoint | Jun 01 05:38 |
| cubezzz | here... FSF says: | Jun 01 05:39 |
| cubezzz | "Gigabyte M57SLI-S4 (with Radeon 9700 recommended for video)" | Jun 01 05:39 |
| cubezzz | you could even run coreboot on that board | Jun 01 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | FSF says "We recommend hardware that you found while dumpster diving the the guy throwing it away got second hand from his older brother who bought it as a bargain part 5 years ago" | Jun 01 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | "What? You wanted to game with your card? Puny mortal, you obviously don't get it!" | Jun 01 05:41 |
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| Will__ | @schestowitz: Thought you might want to see this: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/d2f3f04e-6ccf-11df-91c8-00144feab49a.html | Jun 01 05:51 |
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| cubezzz | reading that now actually | Jun 01 05:51 |
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| cubezzz | the arcade game blockout used a motorola 68000 and it did 3d | Jun 01 05:53 |
| cubezzz | wireframe 3d, but even so... | Jun 01 05:53 |
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| yuhong | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/d2f3f04e-6ccf-11df-91c8-00144feab49a.html | Jun 01 05:54 |
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| yuhong | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/31/google-windows/ | Jun 01 05:54 |
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| cubezzz | from the radeon driver man page: | Jun 01 05:58 |
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| cubezzz | "Full EXA 2D acceleration" | Jun 01 05:58 |
| cubezzz | "Full XAA 2D acceleration (only on R/RV/RS1xx, R/RV/RS2xx, R/RV/RS3xx, R/RV/RS4xx, R/RV5xx, RS6xx. XAA Render accel- | Jun 01 05:58 |
| cubezzz | eration supported only on R/RV100, R/RV/RS2xx and RS3xx);" | Jun 01 05:58 |
| cubezzz | I have RV100 SD32M | Jun 01 06:00 |
| cubezzz | so I assume EXA/XAA is an either/or thing | Jun 01 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep it is cubezzz | Jun 01 06:13 |
| ender2070 | :P | Jun 01 06:14 |
| oiaohm | Also XAA is being killed off cubezzz | Jun 01 06:15 |
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| ender2070 | cubezzz will fork it | Jun 01 06:16 |
| ender2070 | for his fc1 | Jun 01 06:16 |
| cubezzz | no :) | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | I won't do that | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | "radeon is a XFree86 driver for ATI RADEON based video cards. It con- | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | tains full support for 8, 15, 16 and 24 bit pixel depths, dual-head | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | setup, flat panel, hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D acceleration | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | (except R300 cards)" | Jun 01 06:21 |
| cubezzz | I could just use the old radeon driver | Jun 01 06:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] a 10 year kid is trying to mail me. I have not received his mail. he is saying - "try logout and login" #lol #funny | Jun 01 06:23 | |
| cubezzz | I see EXA is a big improvement | Jun 01 06:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Qimo for Kids http://www.qimo4kids.com/ #linux #foss | Jun 01 06:52 | |
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| scientes | damn | Jun 01 06:57 |
| scientes | TOMOYO security module is really easy | Jun 01 06:57 |
| scientes | and fun :P | Jun 01 06:57 |
| scientes | cause it auto-learns | Jun 01 06:57 |
| tessier | url? | Jun 01 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva has had Tomoyo for years | Jun 01 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | just not activated by default | Jun 01 07:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Why Launchpad Rocks: Working With Code Is Dead Simple - http://bit.ly/cepgGE #launchpad #ubuntu | Jun 01 07:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The comedy voiceover guy from TMZ really, really tickles my funny-bone. I love the acerbic wit and poking of fun. :-) | Jun 01 07:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Google’s answer to internal security: Drop Windows, use Mac or Linux instead. http://is.gd/cxNQR | Jun 01 07:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: Googles answer to internal security: Drop Windows, use Mac or Linux instead | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 44.25 KB | Jun 01 07:43 |
| scientes | tessier, http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/ | Jun 01 07:47 |
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| scientes | probably have to reconfigure and recompile your kernel | Jun 01 07:48 |
| scientes | even though its mainline | Jun 01 07:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera Google’s answer to internal security: Drop Windows, use Mac or Linux instead. http://is.gd/cxNQR | Jun 01 07:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: Googles answer to internal security: Drop Windows, use Mac or Linux instead | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 44.25 KB | Jun 01 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat is still batting for swpats: | Jun 01 07:56 |
| schestowitz | "Tomorrow morning I'll publish a piece on the OIN. | Jun 01 07:56 |
| schestowitz | "(it starts with something else but then quotes from my blog; the person named "Charlotte T.-N." in there is Charlotte Thornby-Nielsen, a Sun lobbyist) | Jun 01 07:57 |
| schestowitz | "As my blog pointed out, some Red Hat people were/are honestly against software patents, especially Alan Cox (now at Intel, and since he joined them I haven't heard him speak out on the subject anymore but I have no doubt concerning his personal views on the issue). | Jun 01 07:57 |
| schestowitz | "Thanks for these links! Tomorrow I'll focus on OIN and say relatively little about Red Hat (though what I say is tough enough), but over time there'll be more situations where I'll have to discuss their role and then those links will come in particularly handy and I might include some or all of them in a list of Red Hat-related links on my blog. | Jun 01 07:57 |
| tzaquiel | so has anyone here been keeping an eye on americaspeaksout.com | Jun 01 08:08 |
| tzaquiel | http://piratepad.net/NeK0R89b8i | Jun 01 08:09 |
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| tzaquiel | if such things interest you | Jun 01 08:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Signal Boost a new project about FLOSS people. http://is.gd/cxQuB #foss | Jun 01 08:32 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 01 08:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] What would the moronic 'don't tread on me!' #israel apologists be doing if armed commandos stormed their precious castles? #freedomflotilla | Jun 01 08:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Glimpse Back at #RedHat ’s and #Novell ’s Stance on Software Patents in 2005 http://ur1.ca/04p50 #swpats #oin #patents | Jun 01 08:41 | |
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| cubezzz | I just had a dimm go bad :-/ | Jun 01 08:41 |
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| cubezzz | oh well | Jun 01 08:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Sick at heart over #israel's atrocity... Déjà vu to #iraq. And nauseous that there are people so ignorant & inhuman as to try to justify it. | Jun 01 08:43 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, some stuff has been fixed since I last looked at LAME | Jun 01 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | what's funny is that LAME is still beating the iTunes AAC encoder in blind tests | Jun 01 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | at this rate, MP3 will never die | Jun 01 08:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @hblodget #Google bans #Microsoft #Windows company-wide, blames Windows vulnerability for #China #hacking incident. http://bit.ly/alrwcH | Jun 01 08:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | what's more comical is watching all the AAC companies suing each other accusing one another of cartel activity and monopoly practices | Jun 01 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 08:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @hblodget #Google bans #Microsoft #Windows company-wide // only surprised it wasn't done years ago. Massive parasite eliminated! | Jun 01 08:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] "Another compelling patent from Apple" If it were not for the problems caused by software patents it would be hilarious http://is.gd/cxRM7 | Jun 01 08:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, the noise shaping model has improved in LAME 3.99a7 | Jun 01 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | not much, enough to get the file bloat down a little | Jun 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe MPEG-LA will be shut down :-p | Jun 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | And is junk made public domain | Jun 01 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Antitrust | Jun 01 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, MP3 is already more or less public domain | Jun 01 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | MPEG Cartel is like a drug company | Jun 01 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | introducing new drugs just to keep their patents going | Jun 01 09:01 |
| tessier | Far from it as long as Fraunhofer still has patents on it. | Jun 01 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | most MP3 patents that apply in the USA have expired | Jun 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | not all obviously | Jun 01 09:02 |
| tessier | One is all they need to ruin your day. | Jun 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | there's a couple more set to expire later this year | Jun 01 09:02 |
| tessier | Or your business. | Jun 01 09:02 |
| tessier | Then we'll finally be able to have MP3 support in our distros out of the box?! | Jun 01 09:02 |
| tessier | Wow what a glorious day that will be! | Jun 01 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | well, decoding MP3 will be public domain by late next year I think | Jun 01 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | that's the important part | Jun 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <DaemonFC> MPEG Cartel is like a drug company | Jun 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz | They also do gene patents | Jun 01 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | they're aware that they're about to lose MP3 | Jun 01 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | but AAC is still heavily patented for many years | Jun 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | It's not their only business | Jun 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | MPEG-LA is not just MPEG anymore | Jun 01 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | so they launch a carpet bombing campaign to trick many users into making AAC files instead | Jun 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | VP8/Ogg for me... | Jun 01 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Tell Canonical too (7 Digital or whatever it's called) | Jun 01 09:06 |
| MinceR | i prefer Matroska/VP8/Vorbis :> | Jun 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Canonical pays MPEG-LA, so there's less incentive there for Ogg and many PMPs won't play it either | Jun 01 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | my player seems to get better battery life if I only play MP3s on that charge | Jun 01 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | it must have some help with decoding in hardware | Jun 01 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | FLAC is the fastest way I can kill it, but that's not a surprise | Jun 01 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | WMA gets the worst battery runtime | Jun 01 09:08 |
| MinceR | you've just contradicted yourself :> | Jun 01 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | of the lossy codecs I meant | Jun 01 09:11 |
| DaemonFC | my point is there's some kind of hardware acceleration for MP3 | Jun 01 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | even though it can play tons of other formats | Jun 01 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like Vorbis development is stalled | Jun 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | there hasn't been anything other than bug fix releases in years | Jun 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | then they wasted all that time and effort on Theora | Jun 01 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | which is now obsolete | Jun 01 09:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The fact that commandos were dropped on the deck implies that #Israel knew passengers were unarmed. #freedomflotilla | Jun 01 09:16 | |
| oiaohm | Theora is not exactly obsolete | Jun 01 09:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GaeMar01 Quartet #TonyBlair received #Israil Dan David Peace Prize in 2009 + $1M 'reward' //yep! following orders #gaza #freedomflotilla | Jun 01 09:17 | |
| oiaohm | Theora might become a useful bit of prior art. DaemonFC | Jun 01 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | against what? | Jun 01 09:17 |
| oiaohm | Some of MPEG-LA patents. | Jun 01 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | but it's pretty much dead now as a viable codec | Jun 01 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | now that VP8 is out there | Jun 01 09:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proponents of #Microsoft Come to Grips With Microsoft’s Sheer Aggression With Software Patents http://ur1.ca/04pfg #swpats | Jun 01 09:23 | |
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| oiaohm | Features developed for Theora might be useful to help VP8 DaemonFC | Jun 01 09:25 |
| oiaohm | Ie Lets make sure we pick its bones before we dump it. | Jun 01 09:25 |
| MinceR | "Open Source Asay"? really? :> | Jun 01 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised they're still able to improve LAME | Jun 01 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I really am | Jun 01 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when they announced LAME | Jun 01 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | I was like 14.... | Jun 01 09:36 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ca1pa/20000_proisrael_supporters_dispatched_to_social/ | Jun 01 09:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Magnet links kick ass | Jun 01 09:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bartz learned from her masters at Redmond and is excited about passing her customers over to #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/04pmo | Jun 01 10:03 | |
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| *DaemonFC throws down a gun at MinceR's feet | Jun 01 10:03 | |
| DaemonFC | pick up the gun | Jun 01 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 10:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] PM Harper: #Israel's lost legitimacy is contagious. While u nuzzle & neck Bini, ppl are watching how u handle #flotilla barbarity. #cdnpoli | Jun 01 10:05 | |
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| *oiaohm flattens DaemonFC under a great white shark. | Jun 01 10:10 | |
| *MinceR picks up the gun and examines it | Jun 01 10:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@walterheck Amen! RT @sniiffit: security begins w/user education, not the OS you use //#security is also layered, so don't pick a stupid OS | Jun 01 10:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Digital Economy Act. TalkTalk calls draft OFCOM file sharing code "bureaucratic dog's breakfast". http://is.gd/cxWjj | Jun 01 10:24 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: AstroTurf wars around Flotilla then.. | Jun 01 10:32 |
| schestowitz | I was just writing about Microsoft AstroTurf | Jun 01 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Post ready soon (proofreading now) | Jun 01 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'm playing around with AAC some more with the newer Nero encoder | Jun 01 10:42 |
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| DaemonFC | if it is better than MP3, I'll be damned if I can tell | Jun 01 10:43 |
| oiaohm | Shows up with sub woffer. DaemonFC | Jun 01 10:46 |
| oiaohm | Most head phones you will not detect any difference. | Jun 01 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | I have good subwoofers | Jun 01 10:47 |
| oiaohm | AAC does the edges of the low freqs better. | Jun 01 10:47 |
| oiaohm | But that is about it. | Jun 01 10:47 |
| oiaohm | Ie explosions better with AAC than MP3 | Jun 01 10:48 |
| oiaohm | Of course flac beats both. | Jun 01 10:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/gunmen-mosques-lahore | Jun 01 10:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/27/jamaican-army-tivoli-gardens | Jun 01 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/26/pakistan-facebook-ban-street-politics "To oppose the Facebook ban in Pakistan is to be accused of blasphemy by the rabble-rousing right" | Jun 01 10:52 |
| Techrights | Title: Pakistan's antisocial networking | Kamila Shamsie | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 164.35 KB | Jun 01 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Don't all governments hate free speech unless it supports them? | Jun 01 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | Vorbis kicks the crap out of them both | Jun 01 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | but MP3 and AAC seem about the same to me | Jun 01 10:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] "Your skin is all gone under your nose! It's burned off!" A result of being taught all competition is good. Madness. http://is.gd/cxXZw | Jun 01 10:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | C:\Users\Ryan\Music\Korn\Greatest Hits Vol. 1\12 - Got The Life.ogg | Jun 01 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | that one stands out | Jun 01 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | it hits every MP3 snag there is | Jun 01 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | Vorbis handles it fine | Jun 01 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | AAC is so-so | Jun 01 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | still likes to smear drums | Jun 01 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | for as much as Nero likes to spread AAC, you wouldn't expect them to file this lawsuit against MPEG-LA | Jun 01 11:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Has Your #Facebook and #Twitter Data, Tightens Relationship With Those Companies http://ur1.ca/04pyf | Jun 01 11:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | Nero's claims about AAC reminded me of that time Microsoft put a utility on their Plus for XP CD | Jun 01 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | it would re-encode all your MP3s as 64k WMA | Jun 01 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | saving you all that valuable hard disk space :) | Jun 01 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | actually, that may be Plus for 98 I was thinking about | Jun 01 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | I used to get a free boxed set of everything they had it seemed | Jun 01 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | even if I never asked for it and couldn't possible use it | Jun 01 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | *possibly | Jun 01 11:12 |
| MinceR | that's how they try to buy/strengthen the loyalty of their slaves | Jun 01 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, my task was to go forth and spread word of how wonderful product X was | Jun 01 11:15 |
| oiaohm | There was a plus kit for windows 95 as well. | Jun 01 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | like OMG!!! You guys! Plus for Windows 98 is OMG!!!1111 LOL!111 | Jun 01 11:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@a_picazo Harper runs considerable risk of #Israel's stark illegitimacy infecting thru his sycophantic pose #HarperMustGo #LiarNotALeader | Jun 01 11:16 | |
| oiaohm | Yes I have it around here somewhere. | Jun 01 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | Plus for 95 had Internet Explorer 1 | Jun 01 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | rebranded NCSA Mosaic | Jun 01 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | and it even came with an uninstaller! | Jun 01 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | joy! | Jun 01 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | If IE 9 actually promotes open standards I'll eat my hat | Jun 01 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | they're up to something | Jun 01 11:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @klimtypefoundry identity for an unorthodox law firm: http://www.and-smith.co.uk/showcase.php?cs=30&ci=475# // Beautiful #typography!! | Jun 01 11:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.oldversion.com/Internet-Explorer.html | Jun 01 11:20 |
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| DaemonFC | There you go oiaohm | Jun 01 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | don't say I never gave you anything | Jun 01 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 11:20 |
| oiaohm | As if I would dare mess with that in wine. | Jun 01 11:20 |
| oiaohm | MS is being forced to do standards. | Jun 01 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.oldversion.com/Kazaa.html | Jun 01 11:21 |
| Techrights | Title: Download Kazaa - Old Version.com .::. Size~: 19.6 KB | Jun 01 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's another goodie | Jun 01 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | why is he archiving old spyware that doesn't even work anymore? | Jun 01 11:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] seems that BP's true colours are racking up the problems for them http://tinyurl.com/2fx2cbe | Jun 01 11:41 | |
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| DaemonFC` | I'm never getting a cat again | Jun 01 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: c:? | Jun 01 12:09 |
| schestowitz | Wrong channel? | Jun 01 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | no, the cat yanked the power cable out | Jun 01 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | I was pissed | Jun 01 12:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @thistleweb seems that BP's true colours are racking up the problems for them http://tinyurl.com/2fx2cbe | Jun 01 12:11 | |
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| MinceR | there's one in /bin | Jun 01 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | Crapple is trying to stick me with iTunes credits | Jun 01 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | as "compensation" for my lala account balance | Jun 01 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to spend hours on the phone biting someone's head off | Jun 01 12:15 |
| MinceR | they want to keep screwing you | Jun 01 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want iTunes credits | Jun 01 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | I want this shit to stop happening | Jun 01 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | I find a place I like to buy stuff from and they get devoured by some soulless, faceless, evil, multinational conglomerate | Jun 01 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You know what I think | Jun 01 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think LaLa had nothing that Apple intends to use | Jun 01 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think Apple jsut bought them to shut down a superior competitor | Jun 01 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | before they got bigger | Jun 01 12:19 |
| MinceR | they had one thing crApple was interested in: customers. | Jun 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | Nope | Jun 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Con-su-mers | Jun 01 12:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 01 12:21 |
| *schestowitz evokes Kool-Aid analogies | Jun 01 12:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Kevin Carmony's blog :P | Jun 01 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | who will win American Idol this year? | Jun 01 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | I vote for Lesbians Who Look Like Justin Bieber | Jun 01 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | brb, have to get coffee and take a dvd back :P | Jun 01 12:31 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Did he blog this really? | Jun 01 12:43 |
| zoobab | there is some stuff about open standards here: | Jun 01 12:51 |
| zoobab | http://media.ffii.org/KroesItre100531/ | Jun 01 12:51 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, sorry, was out getting my coffee | Jun 01 12:52 |
| zoobab | please dig | Jun 01 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://kevincarmony.blogspot.com/2010/03/my-annual-american-idol-predictions-for.html | Jun 01 12:52 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I had an idea about Chrome OS | Jun 01 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | what would be stopping some outfit from leveraging it as a gaming platform? | Jun 01 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | you could make a console out of a low profile PC obviously (like original XBOX) | Jun 01 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | and utilize Chrome OS as a minimal OS for the machine | Jun 01 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | and take advantage of it's process separation to help enforce DRM | Jun 01 12:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Microsoft Products May be Axed After Microsoft Exodus, Other Trouble http://ur1.ca/04r3f #zune #mobile #china | Jun 01 13:02 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: thanks, I'll do this later today | Jun 01 13:03 |
| zoobab | the best is to clip the relevant parts | Jun 01 13:07 |
| zoobab | with avidemux | Jun 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/10192755.stm | Jun 01 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | "Bangladesh has blocked access to Facebook after satirical images of the prophet Muhammad and the country's leaders were uploaded, say reports." | Jun 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Why burn Swedish flags? | Jun 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I never clipped videos. I tried for hours with kdenlive | Jun 01 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, DVD Decrypter works after all these years | Jun 01 13:11 |
| schestowitz | What makes Apple so sticky - "Stickyness" is a term of art usually applied to websites like Facebook that keep visitors coming back for more. http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/29/what-makes-apple-so-sticky/ | Jun 01 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Stickiness - euphemism for "lockin" | Jun 01 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | hahaha | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | it stops every sector | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Cracking CSS" | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | progress bar flips through | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | rips some more | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Removing MackeralVision | Jun 01 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Stripping out Prohibited User Operations | Jun 01 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | maybe there's something to be said for DVD yet, schestowitz | Jun 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | Facebook has just deleted a page | Jun 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | For religious reasons :-) | Jun 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | And for money | Jun 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Like South Park it ran away with tail between legs | Jun 01 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | The woman at the Macrovision company was irritated with me schestowitz | Jun 01 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | cause I actually called them one day | Jun 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | filirting? | Jun 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Or irritating (with???) | Jun 01 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | and asked them if there was a way to identify defective DVDs that were contaminated with Mackeral Vision | Jun 01 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 01 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | so I could be sure to avoid them | Jun 01 13:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@abdullahmussa #Aljazeera cameraman: #idf soldier tried 2 smash camera on #flotilla /ordered to destroy cameras. any evidence bad 4 #israel | Jun 01 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | PR: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/05/31/1939257/Foxconn-Workers-Getting-Raise-With-Apple-Subsidies | Jun 01 13:19 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apple is eager to make this story disappear | Jun 01 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | before people realize how much slave labor and misery went into their hypepod | Jun 01 13:21 |
| schestowitz | DRM nonsense: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/universal-e-books-format/all/1 | Jun 01 13:21 |
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| schestowitz | They miss the point that DRM is bad | Jun 01 13:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: s/slave/child/ | Jun 01 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | iSheep, say BAAAAAAHHHH!!!! | Jun 01 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | from a Sansa advertisement | Jun 01 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 13:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@SedaEgridere #Obama "collecting all facts" be4 speaking on israeli #flotilla attack // 'ALL FACTS' INCLUDES confiscated cameras & media!! | Jun 01 13:23 | |
| schestowitz | Man to his 15 y-o: "hey, sweatheart, I got you a new hypePod... it only took 15 Chinese kids your age to build it, but hey. they're Chinese, there's like a billion of them" | Jun 01 13:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@BarackObama if u are serious about this 'all facts' rhetoric then u must ASK4 & RECEIVE ALL confiscated CAMERAS+MEDIA & 600 witness accts! | Jun 01 13:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/business/30gret.html | Jun 01 13:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Fair Game - 3,000 Pages of Financial Reform, but Still Not Enough - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 68.62 KB | Jun 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GLOBAL_INVESTMENT_SCAM?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Jun 01 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | Another one... | Jun 01 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Ponzo | Jun 01 13:26 |
| schestowitz | *Ponzi | Jun 01 13:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Hiep hoi: mijn eerste @linuxmag abonnement-exemplaar is in de brievenbus gevallen. Dat kan niemand mij meer afnemen :-) | Jun 01 13:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@BarackObama 'all facts' there4 implies complete,objective discovery of evidence-not forwarding doublespeak from #Israel. which r u doing? | Jun 01 13:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mparent77772 Israel holds 9 Americans kidnapped in int'l waters. Why hasn't #Obama called 4 return? /backchannel has already reassured him | Jun 01 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel administration will ignore #ICC summons. Leading to a new impasse. & very severe travel restrictions on Israel officials. How ironic | Jun 01 13:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Correctie, het is niet @linuxmag, maar @linuxmagNL. Al 10 jaar trouwe lezer! nu pas een abo :-/ | Jun 01 13:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Interessant artikel van @brenno op webwereld http://tinyurl.com/2ubcaym Jammer dat er zo weinig is gebeurd met de motie @keesvendrik... | Jun 01 13:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Popularity of GNU/Linux Sites" http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/30/popularity-of-gnulinux-sites/ TechRights is ranked around 1800th in Netcraft | Jun 01 13:39 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://macapper.com/2010/05/31/apple-submits-patent-for-on-the-go-shopping-list/ | Jun 01 13:39 |
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| schestowitz | One-click shopping may come to mind | Jun 01 13:39 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/05/31/sins-of-fathers/ | Jun 01 13:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] xkcd on the kindle delivered daily: ) http://twitpic.com/1t0c0u | Jun 01 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | Religious problems, as always | Jun 01 13:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@michellemalkin you are knowingly lying when you call those 'jihadi' ships. You are a cheap dishonest coward. | Jun 01 13:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao #Israel expects #US to deflect outcry over #flotilla | Reuters India http://u.nu/2ct5b #flotilla #gaza #israel // of course it will | Jun 01 13:45 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/blogs/browse/2010/05/meanwhile-finland | Jun 01 13:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mparent77772 US blocks Security Council criticism of #Israel raid http://bit.ly/bPTpyq #gaza #flotilla /gosh,who could have predicted that | Jun 01 13:50 | |
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| schestowitz | MSNBC has Linux content..., but don't get your hopes up... Linux is the 'hacker platform' here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37400086/ns/technology_and_science-security/ | Jun 01 13:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New baby rhino called "Ubuntu" http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/3757501/Ubuntus-a-hit-with-DJ | Jun 01 13:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik had SuSE Linux 6.1 gekocht, door het entosiasme van de redactie van @linuxmagNL (#2 jaargang 1) ben ik het gaan installeren... | Jun 01 13:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Werd meteen smoorverliefd op GNU/Linux. Erg blij met mijn abo, nu kan ik geen nummer meer missen ;-) | Jun 01 13:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@markknoller State Dept: "US remains deeply concerned by suffering of civilians in Gaza" //'concern' is not enough! ACT! Like #Flotilla did | Jun 01 14:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @gbraad: good interview with @tuxbrain'>@tuxbrain</a> | Jun 01 14:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Argument matches between climate deniers, creationists and tobacco industry. http://is.gd/cyaCj- Needs more work and a *good title*. Ideas? | Jun 01 14:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] RT @ JamalDajani: #Egypt opens #Gaza border after #Israel ship clash http://bit.ly/bNhQ5e #Flotilla | Jun 01 14:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Zo, ik heb onder druk van José mijn computer onderdelen kast opgeruimd. Ongelooflijk wat daar allemaal uit kwam. Al het Amiga spul weg : `-( | Jun 01 14:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Egypt opens Rafah crossing "until further notice" after #flotilla attack. http://bit.ly/bEHRTD The world is angry, Israel. (@georgegalloway) | Jun 01 14:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik spaar sinds 2002 computer onderdelen, om anderen te helpen. Nu weggegooid. Als ik daar maar geen spijt van krijg :-/ | Jun 01 14:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ‘Quit Microsoft’ Day and ‘Quit Apple’ Day http://techrights.org/2010/06/01/quitting-microsoft-and-apple/ | Jun 01 14:35 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: I think you missed the biggest thing about the google statements. | Jun 01 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Remember 20 percent of all google developers time go into there own projects outside google. schestowitz | Jun 01 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Now that they have to use OS X or Linux I expect itch scratching by google developer to go up schestowitz | Jun 01 14:57 |
| DaemonFC` | oiaohm, What's with the shitty DirectX 11 performance on the RadeonHD 5000 series? | Jun 01 14:58 |
| DaemonFC` | whose fault? | Jun 01 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Case of both. | Jun 01 14:58 |
| oiaohm | MS and ATI. | Jun 01 14:58 |
| DaemonFC` | drivers? | Jun 01 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Drivers and Design of API | Jun 01 14:59 |
| oiaohm | 5000 internal design don't really match up to the MS direct x design. | Jun 01 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Matches more up to opengl | Jun 01 14:59 |
| DaemonFC` | doesn't make sense | Jun 01 15:00 |
| DaemonFC` | nobody is using OpenGL on Windows | Jun 01 15:00 |
| oiaohm | And that is partly MS fault over risk of attacking card makers over having direct x items in hardware. | Jun 01 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Yes both. Patent stupidity on the MS side. DaemonFC` | Jun 01 15:01 |
| oiaohm | ATI for some sucky drivers in places. | Jun 01 15:01 |
| DaemonFC` | DirectX 10 is fine | Jun 01 15:01 |
| DaemonFC` | but if you go DirectX 11 mode, your performance is cut in half | Jun 01 15:01 |
| oiaohm | DirectX 10 90 percent maps to opengl latest version almost perfectly. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| oiaohm | The missing 10 percent is Direct X shader complier. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Basically saber rattling problems. DaemonFC` | Jun 01 15:03 |
| DaemonFC` | well, in that case there's not much duplicated hardware right? | Jun 01 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Almost zero. | Jun 01 15:05 |
| oiaohm | There is no real room to have duplicate. DaemonFC` | Jun 01 15:05 |
| DaemonFC` | schestowitz was going on about it one day like they were spending 100 million transistors just to support DirectX | Jun 01 15:05 |
| DaemonFC` | I kind of doubted they would do something like that | Jun 01 15:05 |
| oiaohm | They did. | Jun 01 15:06 |
| oiaohm | And most of that 100 million ended up as opengl extentions. | Jun 01 15:06 |
| oiaohm | In the opengl released after | Jun 01 15:07 |
| oiaohm | Tech has bounced between opengl and direct x for a long time. | Jun 01 15:07 |
| DaemonFC` | so you're saying the next OpenGL spec decided to figure out how to use the specialized DirectX stuff as part of their own API? | Jun 01 15:07 |
| oiaohm | Basically yep. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | And the reverse happens as well. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| DaemonFC` | so DirectX and OpenGL are not all that different? | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | New features in opengl ends up in direct x | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | At the video card level nop. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | That is why wine can map direct x to opengl as well as they do. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| DaemonFC` | yeah, I was going to say, when Wine does it, it's not as expensive as you'd expect it to be | Jun 01 15:09 |
| oiaohm | If they were truly majorally different maping would be basically impossiable. | Jun 01 15:09 |
| DaemonFC` | there's some performance hit, but it's minor | Jun 01 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Most comes from not being able to produce gpu code directly. | Jun 01 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Instead having to double translate. | Jun 01 15:09 |
| oiaohm | I guess how minor the performance hit is now make sence. DaemonFC` | Jun 01 15:10 |
| DaemonFC` | what I still want to know is how installing DirectX 7 torpedoed my Voodoo 2 card | Jun 01 15:11 |
| DaemonFC` | it didn't even support DirectX :P | Jun 01 15:11 |
| DaemonFC` | it garbled something and I had to reinstall Windows 98 | Jun 01 15:12 |
| MinceR | maybe it's just usual win98 behavior | Jun 01 15:14 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] GCC is dead http://ur1.ca/04q6y | Jun 01 15:17 | |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | GCC Moving To Use C++ Instead of C .::. Size~: 145.58 KB | Jun 01 15:17 |
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| MinceR | gcc is more alive than ever | Jun 01 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Supprising what a little competition does. MinceR | Jun 01 15:23 |
| oiaohm | llvm vs gcc is really good for open source compliers. | Jun 01 15:24 |
| MinceR | and c++ will allow it to be developed faster. | Jun 01 15:24 |
| oiaohm | I am not sure if that is a good thing. | Jun 01 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of binutils under gcc need cleaning up as well. | Jun 01 15:25 |
| MinceR | bootstrapping could be more difficult | Jun 01 15:25 |
| MinceR | but really, we need a solution to the clean bootstrapping problem anyway | Jun 01 15:25 |
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| oiaohm | If c++ is kept out of core bits ie enough to get a c++ complier up it should not make it any worse. MinceR | Jun 01 15:27 |
| oiaohm | And if they get the plugin struct to work well. | Jun 01 15:28 |
| MinceR | this one >> http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2007/04/strange_loops_dennis_ritchie_a.php | Jun 01 15:28 |
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| oiaohm | Ie build base complier expand it with plugins make final version. | Jun 01 15:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ic | Jun 01 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Then when you have final one able to optimise rebuild the lot. | Jun 01 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Standard gcc method. | Jun 01 15:29 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ca5zv/my_badly_illustrated_idea_of_israel_in_world/ | Jun 01 15:29 |
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| oiaohm | Strange loops can be beaten. MinceR | Jun 01 15:31 |
| oiaohm | One so simple its not funny. C interperter. | Jun 01 15:33 |
| oiaohm | How the first C source code C complier built itself. MinceR | Jun 01 15:33 |
| oiaohm | The interperter could be built in any other language other than C. | Jun 01 15:34 |
| MinceR | even then it can have a backdoor | Jun 01 15:34 |
| oiaohm | yes it would be really strange boot straping with python on perl. | Jun 01 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Difference here a interp causes a cross of languages. | Jun 01 15:35 |
| oiaohm | You would have to have one insanely smart backdoor to pickup what is going on. MinceR | Jun 01 15:35 |
| MinceR | sadly, i can't exclude insanely smart backdoors. :) | Jun 01 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Next is a raw machine code build system. That is simple. | Jun 01 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie multi stage build complier. | Jun 01 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Simple asm processor building up to complex complier. | Jun 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | maybe we need an open standard hw stack that we can use to run trusted and audited machine code to start off the process | Jun 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | and eventually we'll have a compiler to crosscompile with | Jun 01 15:38 |
| oiaohm | The asm stage is quite simple to audit | Jun 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | i think this is the idea i came up with when i thought of it earlier | Jun 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | then i forgot about it | Jun 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | i was hoping there was a nicer way :) | Jun 01 15:38 |
| oiaohm | Final way is a working decomplier system. | Jun 01 15:39 |
| MinceR | decompile and compare? | Jun 01 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Jun 01 15:39 |
| MinceR | could be very tricky... but it's probably less tricky than writing a complex compiler in asm | Jun 01 15:39 |
| MinceR | (writing an assembler in machine code is probably not the difficult part) | Jun 01 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Simpler if you build not optimised. | Jun 01 15:40 |
| MinceR | true | Jun 01 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Note clean complier starting point does not have to be highly opted. | Jun 01 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Just has to be clean. | Jun 01 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Like nothing stops you using TCC to build gcc. | Jun 01 15:41 |
| MinceR | turbo c? | Jun 01 15:42 |
| oiaohm | http://bellard.org/tcc/ | Jun 01 15:42 |
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| oiaohm | No tcc | Jun 01 15:42 |
| oiaohm | The complete source code is under 2 megs | Jun 01 15:43 |
| oiaohm | And quite simple to audit due to it size. MinceR | Jun 01 15:43 |
| MinceR | oh. | Jun 01 15:43 |
| MinceR | then this would be a good reason to keep c++ out of the core | Jun 01 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Jun 01 15:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Idea of Zines is very interesting. I will start some some fosszines for connecting Indian Universities, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine | Jun 01 15:45 | |
| oiaohm | Now you can see why I don't see C++ in core as a good thing. | Jun 01 15:45 |
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| oiaohm | Unless it can be restricted to parts that you don't need to build to get starting complier. | Jun 01 15:45 |
| oiaohm | Intergrating binutils with gcc most likely would be more productive than bringing c++ in. | Jun 01 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Ie enabling a tight form complier like tcc to exist. | Jun 01 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically complexity is evil and gcc is too complex. MinceR | Jun 01 15:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning all! | Jun 01 15:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Let's kick off with a new Shot Of Jaq! The Perfect 10: Android Apps - http://bit.ly/aZjoTn - what are your fave apps? #shotofjaq | Jun 01 15:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] LoCo Teams - check out http://bit.ly/atO8H6 and add your recommendations! #ubuntu | Jun 01 16:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Whenever I load Facebook it says on my wall 'Jono has no recent posts'. Any #facebook folks know what is going on? | Jun 01 16:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Egypt opens Gaza border. http://is.gd/cylPA #occupation #Palestine #flotilla #Gaza | Jun 01 16:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Particle physics as Bad Car Analogy. http://is.gd/cymHl- | Jun 01 17:07 | |
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| schestowitz | [14:56] <oiaohm> Remember 20 percent of all google developers time go into there own projects outside google. schestowitz | Jun 01 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Still? | Jun 01 17:39 |
| schestowitz | I thought Google had ended it some years ago | Jun 01 17:43 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: it's without doubt the most boring video I have ever watched (half an hour so far) | Jun 01 17:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Public Software workshop - http://bit.ly/9BhnIz http://bit.ly/aJapfc | Jun 01 17:46 | |
| zoobab | ahah | Jun 01 17:49 |
| zoobab | there are some bits on the FFII twitter | Jun 01 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: which part covered software | Jun 01 17:52 |
| schestowitz | It's all environment stuff so far | Jun 01 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Rubig runnning the show | Jun 01 17:53 |
| zoobab | Lamberts should show up at some point | Jun 01 17:55 |
| schestowitz | OK, I'll watch the rest by the end of the day | Jun 01 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll pick the interesting bits with times to find them | Jun 01 17:55 |
| schestowitz | and quotes | Jun 01 17:55 |
| zoobab | downloading it now | Jun 01 17:56 |
| schestowitz | 1.2gb | Jun 01 17:57 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.euractiv.com/en/infosociety/eu-plays-catch-us-digital-economy-news-494724 | Jun 01 17:58 |
| Techrights | Title: EU plays catch-up with US digital economy | EurActiv .::. Size~: 40.7 KB | Jun 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz | "The cost of a European patent is almost five times that in the US and three times the cost in Japan, according to figures from a study by the Association of Competitive Technologies." | Jun 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Zuck et al. | Jun 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I should set up an alert at Google on "Jon|athan Zuck"? | Jun 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I assume you already watch and report these | Jun 01 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8711264.stm | Jun 01 17:59 |
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| zoobab | Moreover, guidance on transparent ex-ante disclosure rules for essential intellectual | Jun 01 18:02 |
| zoobab | property rights and licensing terms and conditions in the context of standardsetting, | Jun 01 18:02 |
| zoobab | to be provided in particular in the forthcoming reform of EU standardisation | Jun 01 18:02 |
| zoobab | policy as well as in updated antitrust rules on horizontal co-operation agreements, | Jun 01 18:03 |
| zoobab | could contribute to lower royalty demands for the use of standards and thus to lower | Jun 01 18:03 |
| zoobab | market entry costs. | Jun 01 18:03 |
| zoobab | http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/digital-agenda/documents/digital-agenda-communication-en.pdf | Jun 01 18:03 |
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| zoobab | promotion of software patents in standards | Jun 01 18:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The cost of a EU patent is almost 5x that in the US, according to a study by the Association of Competitive Technologies http://ur1.ca/04sux | Jun 01 18:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: EU plays catch-up with US digital economy | EurActiv .::. Size~: 40.7 KB | Jun 01 18:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera didn't you say that Microsoft Jack left? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/31/iped-ipad-android-tablet-computers | Jun 01 18:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: iPed versus iPad: looking for Android tablets | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 128.76 KB | Jun 01 18:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz: Funny you should say that I was worrying myself today, he is going; though it seems not completely. http://is.gd/cyrpu | Jun 01 18:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Ask Jack | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 67.43 KB | Jun 01 18:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera thanks, I wish him will, honestly. It's just a shame when people waste their life making Ballmer/Jobs/Murdoch rich(er) | Jun 01 18:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Yes I wish him well and a happy retirement too, he was part problem part symptom. Still glad he is going though. | Jun 01 18:27 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Google ditches windows operating system in their workplace http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/d2f3f04e-6ccf-11df-91c8-00144feab49a.html | Jun 01 18:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera he could still end up in Microsoft PR like Peter Galli. Microsoft hires journalists who promote it. Let's see if he's hired. | Jun 01 18:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Where is a filter to convert FrameMaker files on Linux?" http://stop.zona-m.net/node/172 Maybe someone can help him | Jun 01 18:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz If he is hired I am sure you will hear about it :) | Jun 01 18:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A decision in Bilski is expected by June 28, 2010, taking longer then other SCOTUS decisions http://ur1.ca/04t0a | Jun 01 18:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Stoked to see that Jokosher is finally getting Telepathy support, it was always part of the dream! Thanks Pēteris - http://bit.ly/aaUK2v | Jun 01 18:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz even old framemaker binaries just don't work on current linux. Red Hat 6 in a VM? | Jun 01 18:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz I would tell him that but he doesn't have commenting turned on. So much for wanting information. | Jun 01 18:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard thanks, that's odd | Jun 01 18:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera not immediately | Jun 01 18:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab A decision in Bilski is expected by June 28, 2010, taking longer then other SCOTUS decisions http://ur1.ca/04t0a #swpats | Jun 01 18:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] have a part of the site with potted biographies of the main players, white and black hat so to speak. It is sort of half done at the moment. | Jun 01 18:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I have been looking into it for a few days, realise there are problems but just thought I would float the suggestion | Jun 01 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EBqlpJb1Xg | Jun 01 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/34241738#notice-34408606 "I am just reading about Peter Galli now, he keeps some bad company. My suggestion I mentioned to you a few days ago was to" | Jun 01 19:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @johnleach Live by the proprietary platform, die by the proprietary platform: http://is.gd/cytYm #apple #appstore | Jun 01 19:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, a busy day a work....I was going to relax and watch TV but the wife has other ideas....watching rubbish on the box. | Jun 01 19:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I WILL get around to watching Going Postal today.....I WILL. | Jun 01 19:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A great track....obviously written by a Linux user! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9f8ILbyS0 | Jun 01 19:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Why Launchpad Rocks: Reviewing Contributions Is Simple - http://bit.ly/cQtJuV - helping make gifts easier to process #launchpad | Jun 01 19:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Are opposable thumbs really all they're cracked up to be? #futuresunpolls | Jun 01 19:41 | |
| cubezzz | Apple/Microsoft is all about lock-in | Jun 01 19:42 |
| cubezzz | that's their business model | Jun 01 19:42 |
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| cubezzz | "If you buy naproxin sodium you'll pay 1/3 what you'll pay for Alieve, but Alieve is nothing but Naproxin Sodium." | Jun 01 19:51 |
| cubezzz | heh heh | Jun 01 19:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I'm collecting a list of legally free to share works on the net (Ebooks,Music,Film etc) if anyone has suggestions: bytes4free@googlemail.com | Jun 01 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: maybe side effect | Jun 01 20:08 |
| schestowitz | It's easier for a company to just make things work with itself | Jun 01 20:09 |
| schestowitz | And lacking regulation there's no need to stretch out to others | Jun 01 20:09 |
| schestowitz | That's why we need unpatented/patent-free standards | Jun 01 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Then procurement prescribes those | Jun 01 20:09 |
| schestowitz | In GNU/Linux, everything is a file and quite standard stuff that can be parsed, with source code as GPL | Jun 01 20:09 |
| schestowitz | So there's chance to make all UNIXes work well | Jun 01 20:10 |
| schestowitz | For people who unlike me need to use non-UNIX platforms (that includes Mac, which is not UNIX above the lower level) all that stuff matters cause things don't interoperate | Jun 01 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Apple gets nasty with lots of DRM on top now, too | Jun 01 20:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin include this good one: http://hewgill.com/sxsw/ | Jun 01 20:13 | |
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| MinceR | "everything is a file" could be taken further, see Plan 9 | Jun 01 20:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] And now I've just violated my own advice *sigh* back to coding... | Jun 01 20:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Great find! Thanks very much! | Jun 01 20:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Mystery Of The Unpaid Postage | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/22kvens | Jun 01 20:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] As Windsor Davies so wisely put it: "Oh dear, what a pity, never mind." | Jun 01 20:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My lads favourite Youtube vid at the moment.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4&feature=related | Jun 01 20:31 | |
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| cubezzz | I tried Plan 9 and I just didn't understand it | Jun 01 20:42 |
| MinceR | i didn't like the license. (back then it was more restrictive) -- also, afaik it isn't kept up-to-date now | Jun 01 20:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] IIRC more bad news for FOSS in NL according to @brenno Feeling ashamed to be Dutch by now :-( | Jun 01 20:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yay! :) ♺ @puentesarrin: ElmDentica (http://goo.gl/NVTZ) en Español Perú: http://goo.gl/a6bb #elmdentica | Jun 01 20:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to: The Linux Action Show! 113 http://tinyurl.com/2ekqz35 #linux #foss #free | Jun 01 20:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] kaffeine has hit version 1.0! Get yourself a copy of this excellent KDE app: http://kaffeine.kde.org/ #linux #foss #kde | Jun 01 21:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Tomorrow (3rd June), we have telecast on Math tools (FOSS) for education - suggestions please ! | Jun 01 21:24 | |
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| schestowitz | OK, I'll tweet a bit | Jun 01 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Been a while :-) | Jun 01 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Telstra ’s Media Centre Runs #Linux http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/39474-telstras-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june | Jun 01 21:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My trax of all time: http://tinyurl.com/cjmveo , http://tinyurl.com/amwbl4 ;) , http://tinyurl.com/ylqdtsc #yourockon | Jun 01 21:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Wow, had a massive response for my request of legally free resources on the net...the scope of material is massive #foss #linux #gpl | Jun 01 21:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Service and Support is Better in #GNU #Linux http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/washing-the-windows-myths-service-and-support-39018 | Jun 01 21:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] This is going to take me an age to sort out! | Jun 01 21:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Auto Company Goes With #GNU #Linux on the Desktop http://www.linuxforu.com/views/an-auto-company-zips-along-the-fast-lane-with-foss/ | Jun 01 21:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux is About Enabling Freedom http://www.daniweb.com/news/story287054.html | Jun 01 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Just picked up that there is more bad news for FLOSS tomorrow in the Netherlands. Becoming ashamed to be Dutch by now :-( | Jun 01 21:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: Linux: It's the Freedom You Big Dummy .::. Size~: 37.49 KB | Jun 01 21:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the #GNU #Linux -based #Zonbu Desktop Mini http://www.reviewboard.com/2010/05/zonbu-desktop-mini-review/ | Jun 01 21:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst what's the news? | Jun 01 21:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advice for #Schools That Migrate or Want to Migrate to #GNU #Linux (Two Parts) http://ur1.ca/04u5y http://ur1.ca/04u5z | Jun 01 21:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] AppleStore terms are incompatible with any Free Software license, but more so in the case of GPL which forbids more restrictions. Good IMHO. | Jun 01 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 21,676,499+ Users of #Fedora, #Linux Highly Popular in Brazil http://ur1.ca/04u6x http://ur1.ca/04u6y http://ur1.ca/04u6z | Jun 01 21:57 | |
| Techrights | Title: Making free pay What Will We Use on June 30, 2011? .::. Size~: 46.4 KB | Jun 01 21:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] SO, AppleStores <=> GNU/Linux repos + DRM + single source + no user control + kill switches, what am I missing? #iPay society, not for me. | Jun 01 21:58 | |
| DaemonFC | That's the best thing I've ever heard | Jun 01 21:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: @brenno will publish it tomorrow. I bet it has something to do with "the open desktop".... | Jun 01 22:00 | |
| DaemonFC | "I support the military because people who want to kill other people join it. And if people who want to kill other people join the military and go off to kill other people who want to kill other people, all the right people are probably being killed." | Jun 01 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 22:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: IOW Microsoft bribed the Dutch government (old news) | Jun 01 22:01 | |
| MinceR | well, at least people get killed | Jun 01 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, damned right | Jun 01 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not me | Jun 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | don't be so sure of that | Jun 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | remember 9/11 | Jun 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, More people in the United States have probably died from falling out of bed between 9/11/01 and this moment | Jun 01 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | you don't see trillions of dolalrs spent to keep people safe in their own bed | Jun 01 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | I want to know why dammit! | Jun 01 22:06 |
| MinceR | people rarely fall out of beds because of armed conflict | Jun 01 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | no, I'm saying more people die from falling out of bed than due to terrorism | Jun 01 22:07 |
| MinceR | and i'm saying that's irrelevant | Jun 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | well, of all the things killling people, terrorism probably doesn't make the Top 100 | Jun 01 22:07 |
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| MinceR | also, you're just one person -- the event that kills you doesn't have to be statistically significant :> | Jun 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | so why don't we concentrate on solving actual problems? | Jun 01 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | sodium kills more people than terrorists | Jun 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | overpopulation is an actual problem, and so is people killing the wrong people | Jun 01 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | cholesterol kills more people than sodium | Jun 01 22:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gish (Computer Game) Becomes Free/Libre Software http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/05/Gish-goes-open-source | Jun 01 22:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Last.FM needs some context | Jun 01 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | following Otep with Diana Ross is just weird | Jun 01 22:17 |
| *MinceR shrugs | Jun 01 22:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Once they came to repossess her | Jun 01 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Funky wouldn't start God bless her | Jun 01 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 22:18 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0112858620100601?type=marketsNews | Jun 01 22:21 |
| Techrights | Title: UPDATE 1-US has launched criminal probe into BP spill| Reuters .::. Size~: 49.49 KB | Jun 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | "The Justice Department has already demanded that the companies involved in the spill, including BP, Transocean Ltd (RIGN.S) (RIG.N) and Halliburton Co (HAL.N), preserve records related to the accident." | Jun 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | This just seconds after the all night cocaine and document shredding party | Jun 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | dammit, just missed em! :P | Jun 01 22:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 01 22:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Partition Manager Features in #KDE SC http://ur1.ca/04ucs http://ur1.ca/04ucy http://ur1.ca/04ud1 | Jun 01 22:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Internt Explorer is an integral part of Windows | Jun 01 22:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Wiows couldn't work without it | Jun 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | *Windows | Jun 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | there was no Windos before Internet Explorer | Jun 01 22:23 |
| MinceR | windows wouldn't work with it | Jun 01 22:23 |
| MinceR | either | Jun 01 22:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #KDE e.V. Board Introduced, #KTorrent Adopts Free/Libre uTP http://ur1.ca/04udi http://ur1.ca/04udj | Jun 01 22:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, IE doesn't respond well to Privoxy | Jun 01 22:24 |
| MinceR | i don't respond well to ie | Jun 01 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | it'll hang the whole page from loading until it gets the ads | Jun 01 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 22:24 |
| MinceR | ie doesn't respond well to w3c standards | Jun 01 22:24 |
| MinceR | (at least until m$'s mole manages to corrupt w3c) | Jun 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | We're all in on HTML5* | Jun 01 22:25 |
| MinceR | (but most likely not even then) | Jun 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | With WMV and h.264 that is | Jun 01 22:25 |
| MinceR | (see OOXML for an example of a m$ "standard" where the official m$ implementation doesn't comply with the "standard") | Jun 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has to pay royalties to MPEG-LA for Windows Media | Jun 01 22:25 |
| MinceR | we're all in on HTML5, as long as it's defined as 'however IE happens to handle it' | Jun 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | all Windows Media codecs | Jun 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | they don't even own their own codecs | Jun 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | mozilla shouldn't pay royalties for any codecs | Jun 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | if it requires royalties, it doesn't belong on the web | Jun 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, MPEG-LA says "All video and autio codecs are patented" | Jun 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, right | Jun 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | presumably by their patents | Jun 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | and i say that MPEG-LA execs should be publicly executed in inventive and painful ways | Jun 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | there are too many parasites on this planet | Jun 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | drawn and quartered will do nicely MinceR | Jun 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | no need to be extravagant | Jun 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | no need, but extravagant is better | Jun 01 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Mincer, in that case I propose bloodletting | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | through nailed shackles through the wrists and feet | Jun 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | that works too | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | the blood will pool in a bucket until it weighs enough to trigger a counterweight | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | which activates a spring loaded axe | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | which lops off their head | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | nice | Jun 01 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I would also accept putting them in the venus fly trap mechanism | Jun 01 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | from SAW | Jun 01 22:29 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see saw | Jun 01 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Jigsaw put this bear trap type device on the guy's head, right? | Jun 01 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | timer activated | Jun 01 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | then surgically implanted the key behind his right eye | Jun 01 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | then woke the guy up | Jun 01 22:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 01 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | if the guy wanted to live, he'd have to claw his right eye out to get the key to stop the trap | Jun 01 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Lots of Free stuff - hell my blog is CCCA2.5 | Jun 01 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | then there's the guy that got his right leg shackled to a steel pipe | Jun 01 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I wish to work with you guys RT: @shepazu: visited t Comic Book Museum on my last day here in Brussels, /w @erikdahlstrom, @jwatt, & anthony | Jun 01 22:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Forgot to mention Tom Smith: http://tomsmithonline.com/ | Jun 01 22:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | and Jigsaw left a saw that couldn't cut through the pipe or the chain | Jun 01 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jun 01 22:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 01 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | to live, he'd have to lop off his right leg above the knee | Jun 01 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 22:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin And here's some out takes from recording sessions: http://sutros.com/themadhatter/music I was the engineer :] | Jun 01 22:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | then there was one of my favorites, where poison gas is pumped into the room | Jun 01 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | and to live, the guy has to swin through used heroin needles | Jun 01 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | to get the antidote | Jun 01 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, But I wouldn't use that on MPEG-LA executives | Jun 01 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | I'd save that for pharma cartel executives | Jun 01 22:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 01 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | this should show what a mess US laws are, back to the oil spill that is | Jun 01 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans cap the damages from the spill itself at a measly $75 million | Jun 01 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | so the federal government has to punish the company under five different environmental laws to get the rest of the damages owed | Jun 01 22:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @_the_mad_hatter Cheers! Its all for an article/permanent page re: free resources on the net! | Jun 01 22:37 | |
| DaemonFC | I would like to see individual states go after BP too | Jun 01 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | any state where oil has washed up | Jun 01 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's a good thing Indiana isn't a coastal state | Jun 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | with our crony Republican governer | Jun 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | former Pharma Cartel executive | Jun 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | *governor | Jun 01 22:38 |
| schestowitz | updike? | Jun 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | no, that's the mayor of the town I live in | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, our governor is Mitch Daniels | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | former director of the office of management and budget | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | under Bush | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | and former Eli Lilly executive | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | and former IPALCO director | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | insider trading | Jun 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | dumped his shares right before IPALCO went south | Jun 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | left other people holding the bag | Jun 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | now he's our governor | Jun 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | selling state assets to private companies | Jun 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | foreign owned companies even | Jun 01 22:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Profile of #RedHat 's DeKoenigsberg and How #Fedora Gains More Contributors http://ur1.ca/04uht http://ur1.ca/04uhw | Jun 01 22:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | one of them got contracted to manage a state prison and "modernized it" to require only a skeleton crew of guards, schestowitz | Jun 01 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | then it got taken over by the prisoners | Jun 01 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | and the 11 guards for the 500 inmates held hostage | Jun 01 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | the response from local SWAT teams cost the state over $2 million in containing the prison riot | Jun 01 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | and the company running the prison paid no damages to the state | Jun 01 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | and they still run the place | Jun 01 22:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Fedora 13 Spin (Xfce) and Reviews http://ur1.ca/04uie http://ur1.ca/04uif http://ur1.ca/04uig http://ur1.ca/04uii | Jun 01 22:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] First ever Dora The Explorer episode. It really is appallingly awful shite in every possible regard. And makes Teletubbies look educational. | Jun 01 22:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox is horribly behind | Jun 01 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | they need to get 4.0 out pronto | Jun 01 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | the nightlies at least look promising even if stuff doesn't work right | Jun 01 22:43 |
| MinceR | and call it 40.0? :> | Jun 01 22:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] One of my friend shared his experience on Linux advocacy and how his office was robbed by opponent 2 year back ! I will be careful now ! | Jun 01 22:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Aero has been out since 2006 | Jun 01 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Call it Firefox7 | Jun 01 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | and it's only now supported in the nightly trunk | Jun 01 22:46 |
| schestowitz | THen Microsoft would sue | Jun 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | and who gives a fuck about aero? | Jun 01 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I do | Jun 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | well, that's your problem. :> | Jun 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome supports it | Jun 01 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome is eating up as many IE users as it is Firefox users | Jun 01 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox has probably lost its momentum | Jun 01 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'd expect it to start shrinking alongside IE anytime now | Jun 01 22:48 |
| MinceR | at least firefox renders fonts correctly | Jun 01 22:49 |
| MinceR | also, it lets me control which site gets a spoofed referer and which doesn't | Jun 01 22:49 |
| MinceR | and it's extensible in other ways too | Jun 01 22:49 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure how far did chrome's javascript whitelist get | Jun 01 22:50 |
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| DaemonFC | I just run it through Privoxy for now | Jun 01 22:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tomorrow I will be doing my live videocast - http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/06/01/at-home-with-jono-bacon/ #ubuntu #community | Jun 01 22:51 | |
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| schestowitz |  | Jun 01 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | they say that content blocking will be built in eventually | Jun 01 22:51 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <MinceR> and who gives a fuck about aero? | Jun 01 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, they add support to it | Jun 01 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Opera/Chrome started it | Jun 01 22:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ff 4.0 will be much faster | Jun 01 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Someone did tests | Jun 01 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, they're trying to make it more modular after the fact | Jun 01 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | I do wish them luck :) | Jun 01 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | The plug-ins no crahy the browser feature lands in 3.6.4 | Jun 01 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | so there is that at least | Jun 01 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | *crashy | Jun 01 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | thats the problem with proprietary plug-ins though | Jun 01 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | you can't fix them so you have to design your way around the fact that they can't be trusted | Jun 01 22:54 |
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| DaemonFC | really the browser plug-in problem is the same kind of problem that Linux has had with proprietary drivers | Jun 01 22:55 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: then it is not firefox that's "horribly behind", is it? | Jun 01 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | "we disavow your system if you install one of these and won't listen to any of your bug reports" | Jun 01 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's a pragmatic workaround | Jun 01 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | kind of like aspirin may get rid of a headache | Jun 01 22:55 |
| MinceR | winblows is worse, where each and every app is only ever tested and designed in an isolated system | Jun 01 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | but not what's causing the headaches | Jun 01 22:56 |
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| MinceR | and apps like to break each other | Jun 01 22:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reviews of Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux Distros #Lubuntu 10.04 and #Peppermint http://ur1.ca/04um1 http://ur1.ca/04um2 | Jun 01 22:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Windows basically adapts to how the application behaves | Jun 01 22:56 |
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| MinceR | yeah right | Jun 01 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 has to mimick bugs in the way former versions of Windows on a per-application basis | Jun 01 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Vista and XP had these too | Jun 01 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | shims they call them | Jun 01 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Fault Tolerant Heap sounds pretty lulzy to me | Jun 01 22:57 |
| MinceR | it probably doesn't do one quarter of what its name suggests | Jun 01 22:58 |
| MinceR | m$ always overhypes everything | Jun 01 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The way the Microsoft guy was explaining it, FTH tells the application that the heap is cleared but then lies and doesn't really clear it for a few minutes | Jun 01 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC | that way if the app turns around and wants something from it, the data is still there and the app doesn't crash | Jun 01 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | so it helps paper over application bugs | Jun 01 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | and make sure nothing really gets fixed | Jun 01 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 22:59 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 01 22:59 |
| MinceR | hide the bug for a little longer so its effect will be more subtle | Jun 01 22:59 |
| MinceR | and you won't _ever_ find out where the bug is | Jun 01 22:59 |
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| DaemonFC | it also means Wine will have to impleement the FTH you know? | Jun 01 23:00 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 01 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | cause eventually heap management will get sloppy because "Windows fixes it on the fly anyway" | Jun 01 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 23:00 |
| MinceR | i suspect that even when it does get overwritten it doesn't get all overwritten right away | Jun 01 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | thats what this will do, encourage bad code because Windows will clean up your mess behind the curtain | Jun 01 23:01 |
| MinceR | so you get subtle random data corruption | Jun 01 23:01 |
| MinceR | they already encourage bad code | Jun 01 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, am I basically right here? | Jun 01 23:01 |
| MinceR | they also provide bad examples | Jun 01 23:01 |
| MinceR | bad design and bad implementation is the norm in m$-land | Jun 01 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | the operating systrem should never have to "guess" what the application is "trying" to do | Jun 01 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | ever... | Jun 01 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | *system | Jun 01 23:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what about? | Jun 01 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Damn, identica is now always passing all data to Twitter | Jun 01 23:02 |
| MinceR | it should never even attempt to do so | Jun 01 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Fault Tolerant Heap will encourage sloppier heap management in applications | Jun 01 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Stupid bugs/connectivity | Jun 01 23:02 |
| MinceR | just like it should never try to "guess" what the _user_ is "trying" to do | Jun 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Java? | Jun 01 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Windows 7 | Jun 01 23:03 |
| MinceR | java was never this stupid | Jun 01 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | I just said that eventually this will cause even more messed up Windows apps | Jun 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Windows is garbage management | Jun 01 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | and Wine will have to implement FTH of its own | Jun 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | It manages itself | Jun 01 23:03 |
| MinceR | not entirely | Jun 01 23:04 |
| MinceR | often the user needs to manage it | Jun 01 23:04 |
| MinceR | at the very least wine could make FTH optional per app | Jun 01 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, My favorite part was where some outfit unleashed a bunch of malware samples on Windows 7 to see if Windows 7 would stop any of them | Jun 01 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | and the only ones it stopped were the ones that failed to run due to compatibility problems | Jun 01 23:05 |
| MinceR | was it supposed to stop malware? | Jun 01 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Defender is 47% effective MinceR | Jun 01 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | logically, that means it's 53% ineffective I guess | Jun 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | 64bit | Jun 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft says, move to 64 | Jun 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Jun 01 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | yes, 64-bit DEP is mandatory | Jun 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Cause crackers haven't compiled for it | Jun 01 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | there's no opting out | Jun 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Not that they can't :-) | Jun 01 23:07 |
| MinceR | so it will look like it's time for 128bit | Jun 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | It might also complicate it for AV signatures | Jun 01 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Windows 7 64-bit is marginally safer than 32-bit | Jun 01 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | that much is true | Jun 01 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not enough to make an issue over | Jun 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hehe, "Windows 9" vapour? | Jun 01 23:07 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | They can't even make users embrace IPv6 and 64-bit | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | i thought it was 8 | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | but one never knows | Jun 01 23:08 |
| schestowitz | 9 | Jun 01 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Teredo!!!! | Jun 01 23:08 |
| schestowitz | They said so | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | can they even embrace ipv6 themselves? | Jun 01 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Vapurspeak | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | or even 64bit? | Jun 01 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe 64-bit servers | Jun 01 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | load Teredo Tubes 1 and 2! | Jun 01 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | fire when ready! | Jun 01 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | they were far behind linux in 64bit | Jun 01 23:08 |
| schestowitz | [23:07] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Windows 7 64-bit is marginally safer than 32-bit | Jun 01 23:08 |
| MinceR | and in usb | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Almost safe enough for Google to consider? | Jun 01 23:09 |
| MinceR | and they took the tcp/ip stack from bsd | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 was no good for Google | Jun 01 23:09 |
| MinceR | they current 128bit hype is comical | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | It could say, "Windows users-- upgrade" | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | But no.. | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | It's same old junk | Jun 01 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I didn't say it was ultra-safe | Jun 01 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I said it was a little safer | Jun 01 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | due to some security measures having no opt-out | Jun 01 23:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: imagine the reaction at AMD | Jun 01 23:09 |
| MinceR | it's safer, like a condom with 255 holes is safer than a condom with 256 holes | Jun 01 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | applications can opt-out of DEP on 32-bit Windows, schestowitz | Jun 01 23:10 |
| schestowitz | "Wha??? StevB? WTH? You crazy???" | Jun 01 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | on 64-bit Windows, they have to "fucking deal with it" | Jun 01 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's the main advantage | Jun 01 23:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that sounds like like a rubber sock | Jun 01 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, WOW64 lets 32-bit apps think they've opted out | Jun 01 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they really havent | Jun 01 23:11 |
| MinceR | well, we're talking about windows security | Jun 01 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | and it resorts to some fuckery to make them work anyway | Jun 01 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Windows 9- the rubbery sock of IT | Jun 01 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | usually B-) | Jun 01 23:11 |
| schestowitz | "Just add lubricant" | Jun 01 23:12 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: http://obligement.free.fr/images/windows_firewall.jpg | Jun 01 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't get it ;-) | Jun 01 23:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 01 23:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right....Starting my free resources project on Openbytes. After the response this is going to be a massive task...an on going project. | Jun 01 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: why did houses kick out the gates? | Jun 01 23:17 |
| MinceR | sounds like a setup for a pun | Jun 01 23:17 |
| *schestowitz shuts windows | Jun 01 23:18 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: your Gov. must know Pearly | Jun 01 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | that idiot downstairs is banging on my floor | Jun 01 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | "And that's when I shot him, your honor." | Jun 01 23:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 01 23:19 |
| MinceR | does he also know Blow? :> | Jun 01 23:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: her majesty Pearly | Jun 01 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to figure out when that guys sleeps | Jun 01 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | and move my sound system right over where I think his bed is | Jun 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | just blast it for a few minutes, enough for him to eake up and call the police | Jun 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | and then it's off by the time they get here | Jun 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | see how he likes it | Jun 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | *wake | Jun 01 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | "No, officer. I'm just having a quiet evening at hom practicing my crochet lessons" | Jun 01 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | police leave, Otep continues | Jun 01 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: buy drums | Jun 01 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Might as well practice some | Jun 01 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | does it matter that I can't play them? | Jun 01 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Buy second hand on ebay or something | Jun 01 23:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: learn as you go | Jun 01 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Unless the landlord opposes | Jun 01 23:23 |
| MinceR | i suspect that for the purposes of this, it's better if you can't :> | Jun 01 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | true enough | Jun 01 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Many neighbours of mine play musical instruments | Jun 01 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Some for orchetra | Jun 01 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, schestowitz | Jun 01 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | I got an idea | Jun 01 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Drummers play sometimes | Jun 01 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | find some mp3s or whatever of someone who can play the drums | Jun 01 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | make it sound like I'm up here practicing | Jun 01 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | that should really fuck with them | Jun 01 23:24 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dZxNg.jpg | Jun 01 23:25 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 01 23:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] lol...Great track... Tom Smith - "I fought the troll" http://tinyurl.com/3sgfl free (and legal to download too!) #free #mp3 #troll | Jun 01 23:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Alternative Social Network Like #Facebook is Still Built the #FreeSoftware Way http://ur1.ca/04uxm http://ur1.ca/04uxp | Jun 01 23:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMwNw | Jun 01 23:55 |
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