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| DaemonFC | http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2010/052610-ballmer-faces-microsoft-subnet.html#slide7 | Jun 04 00:01 |
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| yuhong | BTW, don't confuse astroturfing with social media monitoring. | Jun 04 00:02 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: whatever | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: this is where the comments come from | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | social media monitoring=AstroTurfing | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They are paid | Jun 04 00:03 |
| yuhong | It isn't. | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They are supportive of the paymaster | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | That's AstroTurf | Jun 04 00:03 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 04 00:03 |
| cubezzz | nobody likes Ballmer except Ballmer's mum (maybe) | Jun 04 00:03 |
| schestowitz | Disclosure doesn't cut it | Jun 04 00:04 |
| yuhong | Why? | Jun 04 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Companies should behave | Jun 04 00:04 |
| cubezzz | depends on how many chairs he throws that week | Jun 04 00:04 |
| yuhong | "Disclosure doesn't cut it" Why? | Jun 04 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Not hire Net KKKops to bully bloggers | Jun 04 00:04 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: cause these jobs should not exist | Jun 04 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Marketing people like that are the scum of the scum | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | monitoring and bullying bloggers are different? | Jun 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | And they waste bloggers' time | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | monitoring and bullying bloggers are different, | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | monitoring and bullying bloggers are different. | Jun 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | It's worse than telemarketingf | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | Yes, but monitoring and bullying bloggers are different. | Jun 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | You said it 4 times | Jun 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jun 04 00:05 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 04 00:05 |
| cubezzz | developers developers developers developers! | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | I agree that what Comcast did was far from a good idea, true. | Jun 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | You sounds very concerned | Jun 04 00:05 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 04 00:06 |
| yuhong | I agree that what Comcast did was far from a good idea, true. | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: are you in "social media monitoring"? | Jun 04 00:06 |
| yuhong | Bullying bloggers is not a good idea, nor is spamming them. | Jun 04 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | 1 | Jun 04 00:06 |
| yuhong | And no, I am not in social media monitoring. | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I take that as a "yes" | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | THanks for playing | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: ah OK | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: so why do you defend them: | Jun 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | They don't even monitor | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | They are like bots | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | They use sofwtare tools and automated reponse | Jun 04 00:07 |
| yuhong | Which is not a good idea, agreed. | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Visible_Technologies | Jun 04 00:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Visible Technologies - Techrights .::. Size~: 12.75 KB | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | There is no such thing as "hell", which is a shame, cause there's no place for them to go | Jun 04 00:07 |
| yuhong | Automated responses are not a good idea. | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jun 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | So we've settled | Jun 04 00:08 |
| yuhong | But just monitoring is different. | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | It's bad | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | It's not "just" monitoring | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | it's a brutal industry | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | And it's AstroTurf, IMHO | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Or it needs a name name | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Like trolling | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Let's call it "blog-bot-bombing" | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Or "blog terrorism" | Jun 04 00:08 |
| yuhong | It isn't but it is still not a good idea due to other reasons. | Jun 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | That ought to give them a suitable label | Jun 04 00:08 |
| yuhong | Good, thank you. | Jun 04 00:09 |
| yuhong | Maybe even classify it as blogspam. | Jun 04 00:09 |
| cubezzz | facebook isn't that good either | Jun 04 00:09 |
| cubezzz | "I stubbed my big toe today" | Jun 04 00:09 |
| yuhong | Thank you for creating a new label, thank you. | Jun 04 00:10 |
| yuhong | I am going to class it as blog spam, you agree? | Jun 04 00:11 |
| yuhong | I am going to class it as blogspam, you agree? | Jun 04 00:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm doing some posts ATM | Jun 04 00:11 |
| yuhong | OK. | Jun 04 00:12 |
| yuhong | Hooray, you just created a new type of blogspam. | Jun 04 00:13 |
| yuhong | Or to be more precise, comment spam. | Jun 04 00:15 |
| cubezzz | which could be astroturfing... | Jun 04 00:16 |
| yuhong | If it had no disclosure. | Jun 04 00:16 |
| yuhong | But even if it is not astroturfing, for one thing, people will stop believing them and consider it annoying. | Jun 04 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | SOmetimes it doesn't, yuhong | Jun 04 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Like when Microsoft AstroTurfers hit techrights | Jun 04 00:17 |
| yuhong | Of course, and that is astroturfing. | Jun 04 00:17 |
| yuhong | But even if it is not astroturfing, for one thing, people will stop believing them and consider it annoying. | Jun 04 00:18 |
| yuhong | It is bad practice. | Jun 04 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Novell did this too | Jun 04 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Using pseudonyms | Jun 04 00:18 |
| schestowitz | The IPs came from Novell.com | Jun 04 00:18 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 04 00:18 |
| yuhong | It can border on spam. | Jun 04 00:18 |
| cubezzz | are we keeping #boycottnovell ? | Jun 04 00:19 |
| yuhong | I am thinking of writing a blog article on this type of blogspam. | Jun 04 00:19 |
| cubezzz | or just move to #techrights ? | Jun 04 00:19 |
| yuhong | If it has disclosure, it is not asturturfing, but it is still blogspam. | Jun 04 00:21 |
| yuhong | Anyway, three cheers for inventing a new term for this. | Jun 04 00:21 |
| yuhong | To differeniate it from social media montoring which is OK and avoid any more confusion. | Jun 04 00:22 |
| yuhong | Just monitoring is OK but spamming is not. | Jun 04 00:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Security Lies From Microsoft, Whose ‘Security Essentials’ Brick #Windows http://ur1.ca/05ccp | Jun 04 00:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: More Security Lies From Microsoft, Whose Security Essentials Brick Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 82 KB | Jun 04 00:24 |
| yuhong | BTW, why do you keep citing the Vista 7 is fundementally flawed article when it has been throughly debunked? | Jun 04 00:25 |
| yuhong | Right here on IRC. | Jun 04 00:25 |
| cubezzz | what article? | Jun 04 00:25 |
| cubezzz | it's really the user that determines security | Jun 04 00:26 |
| cubezzz | their knowledge level | Jun 04 00:26 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: will use both channels | Jun 04 00:26 |
| yuhong | The one that talked about a boot-time rootkit. | Jun 04 00:27 |
| yuhong | Against Windows. | Jun 04 00:27 |
| schestowitz | [00:25] <yuhong> BTW, why do you keep citing the Vista 7 is fundementally flawed article when it has been throughly debunked? | Jun 04 00:27 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 04 00:27 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Jun 04 00:27 |
| cubezzz | you know why I don't like windows? | Jun 04 00:27 |
| yuhong | As proof. | Jun 04 00:27 |
| cubezzz | it's a bloated pig | Jun 04 00:27 |
| cubezzz | oink oink oink | Jun 04 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Bloated pig? | Jun 04 00:27 |
| schestowitz | it's like saying "big animal" | Jun 04 00:28 |
| yuhong | Did you see my IRC converstations on this? | Jun 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | yeah, it need a ton of ram to run well | Jun 04 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Or "criminal Microdsoft" | Jun 04 00:28 |
| yuhong | I am trying to dig old IRC logs. | Jun 04 00:28 |
| schestowitz | "big elephant" | Jun 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | bloated | Jun 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | Linux is bloated too, to a lesser degree | Jun 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | that's why I run old Linux | Jun 04 00:28 |
| schestowitz | You can change that | Jun 04 00:28 |
| schestowitz | use the source,Luke | Jun 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | oh you know it :) | Jun 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Linux runs in embedded | Jun 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Tiny footprint | Jun 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | All the way up to supercomputers | Jun 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | yes, usually on 2.4 | Jun 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | I know you don't like old | Jun 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | we still use intel 8051 chip... it does the job | Jun 04 00:30 |
| cubezzz | but as you say, we can change it | Jun 04 00:30 |
| cubezzz | re: lInux | Jun 04 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Newsweek being sold: http://paidcontent.org/article/419-newsweek-now-has-at-least-three-official-suitors/ | Jun 04 00:32 |
| Techrights | Title: Newsweek Now Has At Least Three Official Suitors| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.06 KB | Jun 04 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Old paper | Jun 04 00:32 |
| cubezzz | going to give descent 3 a go with the spaceorb ;) | Jun 04 00:33 |
| Aondo | miss that game | Jun 04 00:34 |
| yuhong | Anyway, the rebuttal involved oiaohm, as I remember. | Jun 04 00:34 |
| Aondo | forsaken was good too | Jun 04 00:34 |
| cubezzz | well I've had this spaceorb for years and never used it | Jun 04 00:34 |
| cubezzz | just realized I have a linux module for it | Jun 04 00:35 |
| yuhong | To be more precise, it was the evidence used in that article that was rebutten. | Jun 04 00:35 |
| yuhong | Which involved a boot-time rootkit. | Jun 04 00:35 |
| yuhong | Sadly, oiaohm is not here. | Jun 04 00:35 |
| schestowitz | it's not one article | Jun 04 00:38 |
| schestowitz | it's many | Jun 04 00:38 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 04 00:38 |
| yuhong | Yes, but this one is the worst, which is why I am focusing on it. | Jun 04 00:38 |
| yuhong | I am doing research on Radian6 to see if they premote this kind of automated response. | Jun 04 00:38 |
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| yuhong | If not, then Radian6 can be laid off. | Jun 04 00:39 |
| yuhong | And I make clear that only this kind of automated response have this problem. | Jun 04 00:40 |
| yuhong | There are other ways to respond which do NOT have this problem. | Jun 04 00:41 |
| yuhong | Agreed? | Jun 04 00:41 |
| yuhong | I am going to do a blog post. | Jun 04 00:42 |
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| yuhong | And to clarify, I was not asking that the entire list be deleted, only the article about Vista 7 being fundamentally flaws deleted fromm the list. | Jun 04 01:10 |
| yuhong | And to clarify, I was not asking that the entire list be deleted, only the article about Vista 7 being fundamentally flawed deleted fromm the list. | Jun 04 01:11 |
| yuhong | I know that there are other articles on the list. | Jun 04 01:11 |
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| WireWulf | mm i just got paid woo | Jun 04 01:17 |
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| oiaohm | My system today just go to is 10 year old birthday without a reinstall. Ok its had a harddrive clone in that time but not a true reinstall | Jun 04 01:38 |
| cubezzz | which OS? | Jun 04 01:39 |
| cubezzz | not win2K I hope? :) | Jun 04 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Debian | Jun 04 01:40 |
| oiaohm | Yes its been inplace upgraded the complete way. cubezzz | Jun 04 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Of course I have had some interesting times because of doing inplace upgrades but hey. | Jun 04 01:41 |
| oiaohm | And after 10 years it has some quirks as well. Mostly because I am too lazy to go fix. | Jun 04 01:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] On Monday I am going to be releasing the new and updated Severed Fifth website. Stay tuned (pun intended), folks! #severedfifth | Jun 04 02:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Want to keep up with the latest Severed Fifth news? Well, then make sure you follow the new @severedfifth Twitter account! #severedfifth | Jun 04 02:41 | |
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| oiaohm | Hmm my upgrade run of debian has been interesting this time. The complete way I have end up using less overall diskspace | Jun 04 05:06 |
| oiaohm | And its not me removing packages. I have added packages. | Jun 04 05:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Attempts to Measure Ubiquity of #GNU #Linux Distribution Are Concluded http://ur1.ca/05duv | Jun 04 06:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Runs on 94.6% of World's Top Servers http://ur1.ca/05duw http://ur1.ca/04sew http://ur1.ca/05dux | Jun 04 06:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Linux 2.6.35 RC3, New Linux.com Changes http://ur1.ca/05dxq http://ur1.ca/05dxs | Jun 04 06:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Glimpse at #GNOME Shell in GNOME Desktop 3 http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2010/06/revisiting-gnome-shell.html | Jun 04 07:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #SystemRescueCd (1.5.5) and a Look at Three Distros That Fit on a Floppy Disk http://ur1.ca/05e6k http://ur1.ca/05e6l | Jun 04 07:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Architect of #Microsoft ’s Patent Strategy Has Left the Building http://ur1.ca/05e9z more #swpats news in http://ur1.ca/05ea0 | Jun 04 07:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Attack on #GNU #Linux and #ODF Continues http://techrights.org/2010/06/04/microsoft-playing-unfair/ mostly links | Jun 04 07:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reviews of #Slackware 13.1 and #Pardus 2009.2 RC http://ur1.ca/05b4y http://ur1.ca/05b4z http://ur1.ca/05b50 | Jun 04 07:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF Founder on Sharing Culture http://mashable.com/2010/05/31/free-music-sharing/ | Jun 04 07:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Reason Why the Digital Economy Bill is Doomed to Fail http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jun/01/digital-economy-act-will-fail | Jun 04 08:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Open Access/Content" Movement Spreads Further http://ur1.ca/05ejt http://ur1.ca/05eju | Jun 04 08:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Partial FOSS workaround for Flash on Iphones, ipads. http://is.gd/cC1ab | Jun 04 08:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera the hype* are better off without it, as it would make them less attractive | Jun 04 08:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Good and bad transparency - http://bit.ly/9TvDKo OK points, but I don't buy "naked transparency movement” fearmongering | Jun 04 08:47 | |
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| schestowitz | What is data science? http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/06/what-is-data-science.html | Jun 04 08:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Gnubio startup sups with the devil to mitigate worst of gene patent system. More detail of how this will work is needed. http://is.gd/cC2KB | Jun 04 08:56 | |
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| schestowitz | Dan Gillmor at salon http://www.salon.com/technology/dan_gillmor/2010/06/02/introductory_post | Jun 04 08:56 |
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| schestowitz | pro-Microsoft site a lot of the time | Jun 04 08:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] We are also providing the live-streaming of marriage/party to website. contact me if you wanna be first. nominal charges. only at NCR now. | Jun 04 09:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Very positive piece from the Irish Times reporting directly from Portland Open Source Bridge conference. http://is.gd/cC3Gs #floss #foss | Jun 04 09:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice spam there quidco, [Enter subject line] in the subject. Jeez. How unprofessional. | Jun 04 09:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Linux win. Quebec government acted illegally in buying Microsoft software without looking at alternatives. #floss #foss http://is.gd/cC4pn | Jun 04 09:24 | |
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| schestowitz | http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/node/37440 | Jun 04 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | "A Phoenix nun along with a hospital Ethics Committee made the decision to go forward with a procedure that aborted an 11-week pregnancy and saved the life of the mother. Sister Margaret McBride was then speedily excommunicated by the Catholic church." | Jun 04 09:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera Linux win. Quebec government acted illegally in buying Microsoft software without looking at alternatives. http://is.gd/cC4pn | Jun 04 09:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/06/step-aside-brand-loyalty-were-loyal-to-information-now/ | Jun 04 09:34 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Steve Ballmer seems to have changed his mind as to who are the biggest threats to Microsoft. http://is.gd/cC6bz #floss #foss | Jun 04 09:53 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-strongest-beers/15256/ that must taste disgusting | Jun 04 09:53 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 04 10:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/109843/jumbo-dual-screen-tablet-kno-debuts-d8 | Jun 04 10:08 |
| Techrights | Title: Jumbo dual-screen tablet Kno debuts at D8 | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.77 KB | Jun 04 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Check out the screen size | Jun 04 10:08 |
| schestowitz | This can actually be a decent work machine | Jun 04 10:08 |
| schestowitz | "The Kno is a big device, having two 14.1 inch (1440 x 900) capacitive touch screens." | Jun 04 10:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] My other computer with a full size case is starting to remind me of a sideboard sized Grundig Radiogram I remember from my childhood. | Jun 04 10:09 | |
| MadRobot | *sigh*... | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMxNw | Jun 04 10:25 |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] Even With MeeGo, Poulsbo & Moorestown Are Crap .::. Size~: 19.16 KB | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Phoronix says "crap" | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Not usual for it | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | And calling next Linux "disaster" | Jun 04 10:25 |
| MadRobot | I have to admit. Video editing in Linux is still problematic.. >< | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Why so dramatic? | Jun 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: unless you use proprietary software on it | Jun 04 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Like some studios do | Jun 04 10:26 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, true. Unfortunately.. | Jun 04 10:26 |
| oiaohm | End of year one of the closed source proprietary ones on Linux is going open source | Jun 04 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Same with CAD | Jun 04 10:26 |
| MadRobot | Both Pitivi and OpenShot are still miles away from usability. | Jun 04 10:27 |
| MadRobot | And animation. | Jun 04 10:27 |
| schestowitz | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/123618.html | Jun 04 10:27 |
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| oiaohm | MadRobot: give me a sec. | Jun 04 10:27 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, IDG took over phoronix and they slowly but surely turned anti-FLOSS. i told you so. | Jun 04 10:27 |
| oiaohm | There is a really good one coming. | Jun 04 10:27 |
| oiaohm | I saw it when I was around blendernation | Jun 04 10:27 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, what good one? | Jun 04 10:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I wouldn't go /that/ far | Jun 04 10:27 |
| schestowitz | But Michael is sometimes not honest | Jun 04 10:27 |
| MinceR | especially see the last time when the article title says 'durr hurr winblows is so much faster than ubuntu" and then the results and the summary says otherwise | Jun 04 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Like claiming some test code to be a "disaster" for Linux | Jun 04 10:28 |
| MinceR | i took it out of my feed2imaprc already | Jun 04 10:28 |
| schestowitz | And other sites /did/ accuse Phoronix of going over the top there | Jun 04 10:28 |
| MinceR | along with slashdot | Jun 04 10:28 |
| schestowitz | Slashdot advetises IE9 earlir | Jun 04 10:28 |
| schestowitz | As 'article' | Jun 04 10:28 |
| MinceR | so did index.hu | Jun 04 10:28 |
| MinceR | on every page | Jun 04 10:28 |
| schestowitz | But /. used to be worse | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | I came back to it | Jun 04 10:29 |
| MinceR | so i took that out of my feed2imaprc too | Jun 04 10:29 |
| MinceR | all these fake news sources | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Not fake | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Maybe biased | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | But Phoronix attacted a Linux crowd | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | After the pro-Windows articles the IRC channel jumped from 40 people to over 100 | Jun 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Within days | Jun 04 10:29 |
| MinceR | well, it will either lose them or turn them into m$ fanboys now | Jun 04 10:30 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/editshare-announces-first-ever-lightworks-open-source-platform/ lightworks MadRobot | Jun 04 10:30 |
| Techrights | Title: EditShare Announces First Ever Lightworks Open Source platform | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 61.32 KB | Jun 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it'\s cause PTS got ported to Windows | Jun 04 10:30 |
| oiaohm | Yes one of the very big boy tools of video editing. MadRobot | Jun 04 10:30 |
| MinceR | i think it's possible to write sw for winblows without becoming a m$ cultist | Jun 04 10:30 |
| MinceR | i somehow succeeded at it | Jun 04 10:31 |
| schestowitz | The IRC channel is still Linux oriented | Jun 04 10:31 |
| oiaohm | Then blenders own internal Movie editor is being updated as well. MadRobot | Jun 04 10:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMxNQ | Jun 04 10:32 |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] The Big Linux 2.6.35 Kernel Problem Is Fixed .::. Size~: 17.68 KB | Jun 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Boo hoo | Jun 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | ANd he made a fuss over it | Jun 04 10:32 |
| oiaohm | And his ass got roasted as well. | Jun 04 10:32 |
| MinceR | he had to, his corporate overlords at IDG told him to | Jun 04 10:32 |
| schestowitz | "With yesterday's automated kernel tests via our Phoromatic-powered test farm that monitors the Linux kernel performance on a daily basis with the results being available at kernel-tracker.phoromatic.com. Using the 2 June kernel from the Ubuntu mainline PPA no longer causes a major performance hit and all of the test result values have returned to their levels prior to this kernel bug that lasted about one week. " | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | They don't impact content | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | And I never suggested so | Jun 04 10:33 |
| MinceR | except that we've just discussed that they do | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | What I did say is, they can assign ads based on their clients | Jun 04 10:33 |
| MinceR | or he became a m$ cultist before making a deal with IDG | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft ads | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't need to change his biases | Jun 04 10:33 |
| oiaohm | MadRobot: still around have you used lightworks before? | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Roblimo is back to writring :-) | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | IDG | Jun 04 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Jun 04 10:33 |
| MinceR | well, he did, regardless of whether he had to | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Jupitermedia I think | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Brian Proffitt does IDG | Jun 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | I have a felling Linux foundation might have sent him a nice dirty letter. | Jun 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Over the so call Linux issue. | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: trouble began when he ported to OS X | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Then Windows | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | After Solaris | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Sun treated him well, which got them lots of publicity | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | JavaONE | Jun 04 10:34 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: don't think so | Jun 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Although he's friends with themn | Jun 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | They invite him to invite-only LF summits | Jun 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, leave him alone, he's OK | Jun 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Read closer. | Jun 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Invite only is more how much you will pay. | Jun 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Unless you are a developer | Jun 04 10:36 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2010/06/qubes-highly-secure-os-powered-by-xen.html | Jun 04 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | xen is dead for Linux | Jun 04 10:37 |
| MinceR | the IT industry needs to get rid of m$ and crApple so that IT news will be about facts, not biases, religions and politics | Jun 04 10:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/03/red_hat_novell_acquisition_look_at_anything/ | Jun 04 10:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Could Red Hat be Novell's spouse? • The Register .::. Size~: 28.83 KB | Jun 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Silly idea | Jun 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | The Reg | Jun 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | Kelly! | Jun 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's not that | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | It's advertising | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Apple and Microsoft advertise a lot | Jun 04 10:40 |
| schestowitz | And they develop trade press cultures this way | Jun 04 10:40 |
| MinceR | yes, they "advertise" a lot | Jun 04 10:40 |
| MinceR | also, suits are in control of the industry instead of engineers | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | See "66 pages of evilness" | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft plans to control the IT press | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/ | Jun 04 10:41 |
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| MinceR | like i said, the industry needs to get rid of them | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | "There are many channels of communication. There’s one-on-one. This is the staple of evangelism, where you and a bunch of people go sit down in a room and you sell them on your idea. You should support Microsoft’s Internet technology because of these three reasons…OK, and so forth. That’s why you should do it, and we’ll make it easy and we’ll ensure that you make money and we’ll give you lots of exposure and it’s the | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | best thing for you. " | Jun 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | Long quote: | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | "Channels of information. They’re developer magazines. Developers love to read other people’s experiences. I remember when I was first learning programming, I was subscribing to a magazine that seemed to solve the problem I was working on every month.. Every month I’d be encountering this new problem and racking my brain, trying to figure out how to deal with it, and this magazine would come out and it solved the problem. it | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | was amazing. It was a very introductory kind of magazine, though, and I got to a certain point where it wasn’t useful any more. But there’s a zillion programmer magazines. There’s not just Microsoft Systems Journal; there’s also…gosh, what is it, WinTech Journal, the DOS/Windows Programmers Journal; there used to be something called the OS/2 Programming Magazine, it was then OS/2 and Windows, which was then Windows and OS/ | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | 2, and now it’s just Windows, and.. .and so on, OK? There’s lot’s of independent programming journals. You want to infiltrate those. Again, there’s two categories. There’s those that are controlled by vendors; like MSJ; we control that. And there’s those that are independent. The ones that we control, you use. It’s an opportunity for consultants and so forth to get their stuff published, right? You can say, if you do | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | this…if you join this beta program, I’ll give you early access to the technology. Your deliverable is a magazine article, OK? I’m not asking you to ship a product by a certain schedule, but you must ship me an article with sample code and so forth, which I will then get published in MSJ, which will then establish you as an expert in the field, which will help your consulting business. Everybody wins, OK? So that’s how you | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | use journals that we control. The ones that third parties control, like the WinTech Journal, you want to infiltrate. You want to get yourself onto the advisory committee that picks out which authors are published and which ones aren’t, or which topics are covered and over these special issues, things like that Just be so helpful that they can’t do without you, and then make sure that things go your way. Just help those magazines | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | like crazy. Encourage new writers. Magazines…technical magazines face the same problems that we do in hiring evangelists. They’ve got to find people who are both very technical and know how to string words together in sentences that make sense, and people are not usually trained in both. You usually get one or the other. It’s like…when I was going to school, I was…you know, I was a science major. I wasn’t going to take | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | any of these artsy-fartsy language and stuff classes. That’s for those losers who are in Liberal Arts, and basket-weaving classes. And so most people don’t do both. So when you can find somebody who can write an article well and point him at one of these magazines: Ooh, that’s great. Magazines love that. They owe you. " | Jun 04 10:42 |
| MinceR | tl;dr | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Read it | Jun 04 10:42 |
| schestowitz | It's very revealing, from Microsoft itself | Jun 04 10:42 |
| MinceR | i guess the summary would be "m$ gives journalists an offer they can't refuse" | Jun 04 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Steve Soprano | Jun 04 10:43 |
| schestowitz | http://ptlbindia.blogspot.com/2010/06/linux-on-top.html | Jun 04 11:06 |
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| schestowitz | "The name "Linux" comes from the Linux kernel, originally written in 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux being technical in nature, users were shying away from using the same. The proprietary software also played a major role in the limited growth of Linux as these proprietary software are more easy to use than command based Linux environments." | Jun 04 11:06 |
| schestowitz | Forgets GNU | Jun 04 11:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Any place where I can listen/watch webinars/telecast on open technologies ? | Jun 04 11:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Anyone know how to stop Nokia from sending me tips via SMS? Kinda pointless now I don't have a Nokia phone. | Jun 04 11:30 | |
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| schestowitz | potholer rocks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5eFM6C3lfc | Jun 04 11:40 |
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| MadRobot | oiaohm, thanks for the link you gave me earlier. | Jun 04 11:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Maybe I should not have been so hasty as to delete the message from Nokia, can't reply with STOP now. Wait for next spam from them. | Jun 04 11:48 | |
| oiaohm | Also keep a eye on blender it self MadRobot | Jun 04 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Its very much becoming a Office suite of 3d movie production. | Jun 04 11:49 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, wow. Really? I can do Non-Linear editing stuff? | Jun 04 11:50 |
| MadRobot | It* | Jun 04 11:50 |
| oiaohm | It been able to do Non-linear for 20 years. MadRobot | Jun 04 11:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie blender | Jun 04 11:52 |
| oiaohm | The interface has suxed. MadRobot | Jun 04 11:52 |
| oiaohm | for over 20 years. | Jun 04 11:53 |
| oiaohm | Video editor was one of blenders early added features. | Jun 04 11:53 |
| MadRobot | I see. | Jun 04 11:53 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Mark_Antony/statuses/15404684442 | Jun 04 11:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Who should buy Novell? My humble suggestion is a VC-backed consortium lead by Dr Roy @schestowitz" | Jun 04 11:53 |
| MadRobot | suxed? | Jun 04 11:53 |
| schestowitz | he says "suxed" a lot | Jun 04 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Seems unusual | Jun 04 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Like a merging of sucks and sex | Jun 04 11:54 |
| oiaohm | Remember blender started life before any rules of good GUI design existed MadRobot | Jun 04 11:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The stand off lasted 10 minutes until the Israelis opened fire. http://is.gd/cCcPP #flotilla #occupation #Palestine | Jun 04 11:55 | |
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| oiaohm | So was almost 100 percent keyboard driven with mouse to move things. MadRobot | Jun 04 11:55 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, does the Py2.6 Blender defer from the Py2.5 one? | Jun 04 11:55 |
| MadRobot | I see. | Jun 04 11:55 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, but the last time I tried it, it was pretty cool. | Jun 04 11:56 |
| oiaohm | py2.6 and py2.5 define python engine inside. | Jun 04 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Other than that nothing. | Jun 04 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Blender 2.5.0 alphas are kinda going to the other side MadRobot | Jun 04 11:57 |
| oiaohm | A program that you can recode interface on fly is kinda warped. | Jun 04 11:57 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, I know what Py2.6 and Py2.5 means. But that was silly question, anyways. :-P | Jun 04 11:58 |
| MadRobot | Cool! | Jun 04 11:58 |
| oiaohm | Some scripts depend on a particular version python. | Jun 04 12:05 |
| oiaohm | That people have. | Jun 04 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Until they update them of course. MadRobot | Jun 04 12:05 |
| MadRobot | I see. | Jun 04 12:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: Welcome to the Ministry of Truth AKA Apple. Web standards == Safari only. http://www.apple.com/html5/ | Jun 04 12:17 | |
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| MadRobot | oiaohm, the problem I'm facing isn't actually the non-linear video editing programs, they are with the bloated desktop screencasting software. | Jun 04 12:42 |
| MadRobot | For example, the videos I made with gtk-recordmydesktop won't work under any Non-Linear editing software. | Jun 04 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Are you sure. | Jun 04 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Does ffmpeg play them. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| MadRobot | They don't even work properly in ffplay and melt. When played with these programs they appear completely corrupted. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| oiaohm | If so blender can work with them. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Ok so what is it recording into. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, I just tried one in blender. Same problem. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| oiaohm | I have had to use vlc to transcode before with some programs. | Jun 04 12:44 |
| MadRobot | .ogv | Jun 04 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Do the videos play in vlc? | Jun 04 12:45 |
| oiaohm | If so we can fix. | Jun 04 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Ok little quality loss | Jun 04 12:45 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, let me try to record a new sample video, 'coz the current ones are just horrible. | Jun 04 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Check out your record option | Jun 04 12:49 |
| MadRobot | Record option? | Jun 04 12:50 |
| oiaohm | advance button MadRobot | Jun 04 12:51 |
| MadRobot | oiaohm, yeah. But what should I change? | Jun 04 12:51 |
| oiaohm | Performance full shots every frame that should make the file large but compadible. | Jun 04 12:52 |
| oiaohm | And zero compression as well. | Jun 04 12:52 |
| MadRobot | Encode on the fly? | Jun 04 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Nop | Jun 04 12:52 |
| MadRobot | Okay. | Jun 04 12:53 |
| MadRobot | Recording now. | Jun 04 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Basiclaly we need recoding to play in ffmpeg to be able to use a lot of different editors. | Jun 04 12:54 |
| oiaohm | There are a few ways to attempt to get there. | Jun 04 12:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] HTTP 500 errors aside, I have deleted my nokia account completely. Hope this stops spam. | Jun 04 13:02 | |
| MadRobot | Okay, and now it seems I just screwed up my Python Path. What a wonderful day, lol. :-P | Jun 04 13:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Why do celebs retweet messages that were sent to them, appending the reply? Twitter is not email. | Jun 04 13:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Co-worker talking to herself as she codes. I wonder if I do that and don't notice. | Jun 04 13:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Quebec Opens the Floodgates to Litigation for Pro- #Microsoft Discrimination in #Governments http://ur1.ca/05g4d #canada | Jun 04 13:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Jack (Schofield) Cites Microsoft Employee About #Apple Product, Without Disclosure http://ur1.ca/05g8v #hypepad | Jun 04 14:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz I think the Microsoft’s CEO considers Apple to be a top competitor link in MS Jack story may be an error. | Jun 04 14:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz If that link was humour, my apologies. | Jun 04 14:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Nokia Sued #Apple First (or Why Apple is Possibly the ‘Bad Guy’) http://ur1.ca/05gga #swpats #linux #patent response to @eeefak | Jun 04 14:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Cá assobiam para o ar e fazem de conta que nada se passa. «Quebec broke law in buying Microsoft software» http://ur1.ca/05d1w | Jun 04 14:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] O Secretário de Estado responsável por estes projectos considerados ilegais pela CE e Comissão de Inquérito já se demitiu, ou ainda assobia? | Jun 04 14:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Se não se demite, está na hora de ser demitido... | Jun 04 14:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Ou ele recebeu ordens para beneficiar a Microsoft, a Intel e a JP Sá Couto, entre outros? | Jun 04 14:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] just ordered my first book from flipcart - facebook programming | Jun 04 14:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] "A tender was made, but only to authorized Microsoft dealers." tal e qual o concurso para o Magalhães 2 | Jun 04 14:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Vice President Leaves #Microsoft , Yahoo! Still Suffers Microsoft’s Grip http://ur1.ca/05gl6 | Jun 04 14:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] E no Canadá o concurso seria obrigatório acima de 25.000 dólares canadianos. Aqui aumentaram a despesa para cerca de 75.000 €. | Jun 04 14:56 | |
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| Ziomatrix | Both Steves at D8 snub customer self reliance with a truck and car analogy for PCs and tablets stating that most people will soon only need cars. http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/jobs-the-pc-is-a-truck-ballmer-theres-a-reason-theyre-calle/ | Jun 04 15:04 |
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| Ziomatrix | I probably should have used a url masker for that. I wonder if in the future websites will go after folks automatically for what they deem "unauthorized hyperlinking?" | Jun 04 15:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera you're right, it's fixed now | Jun 04 15:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Surrenders in Another #Patent Case and Proves Yet Again That Its Patents Are Worthless http://ur1.ca/05gpe #swpats #BackWeb | Jun 04 15:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patent Promiscuity is Failure, Patent Selectively is Success http://ur1.ca/05gxa #uspto #swpats #medicine | Jun 04 16:03 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] why the [name] !gnu should not be added to !linux : http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2010-June/057408.html [rant] by a lawyer | Jun 04 16:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] if No GNU then No Linux even! <rant>RT: @sagarun: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2010-June/057408.html </rant> | Jun 04 16:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Várias infracções à lei envolvendo despesismo continuado do estado com software: http://transparencia-pt.org/?search_str=microsoft&sort=2 | Jun 04 16:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] 5 MILHÕES DE € para a Microsoft, que agradece aos CTT: http://www.base.gov.pt/_layouts/ccp/AjusteDirecto/Detail.aspx?idAjusteDirecto=86879 | Jun 04 16:21 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Seen the huge list of blogs on the recent #Fedora Activity Day in Pune, India? http://ur1.ca/05gyu #foss #linux (via @stickster) | Jun 04 16:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dell UK confirms Hardware Warranty NOT affected when users wipe Windows and install Ubuntu! http://bit.ly/aI6fzm | Jun 04 16:23 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Jun 04 16:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Só este ano já foram 7.852.868,45 € (quase 8 MILHÕES) para a Microsoft via ajuste directo. Esta vergonha não para? | Jun 04 16:27 | |
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| ender2070 | http://bit.ly/9F6y85 | Jun 04 16:32 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft (just sued) http://bit.ly/9F6y85 | Jun 04 16:33 | |
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| ender2070 | :) | Jun 04 16:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Excelentíssimo Primeiro Ministro: por cada € gasto em Microsoft, desconte um € dos meus impostos (pronto, ilibe-me de pagar). | Jun 04 16:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Portuguese direct benefits to Microsoft without any kind of procurement: 2009 = 26.471.745,03 € / 2010 = 7.852.868,45 € | Jun 04 16:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] e-escolinhas and e-escolas rendered Microsoft about 100 million € more. | Jun 04 16:36 | |
| ender2070 | later | Jun 04 16:38 |
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| neighborlee | I could give a rats behind about M$ atm actiually I could easily learn to love them/work with them somehow*ugh*, atm im more worried about the poor animals dieing in flocks, due to gulf oil spilll | Jun 04 16:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] e-escolinhas and e-escolas (under European Comission investigation) rendered Microsoft about 100 million € more. | Jun 04 16:38 | |
| neighborlee | and you know how much in my gut I dispise what M$ has done.. | Jun 04 16:38 |
| neighborlee | call your senator and tell them BP's pathetic apology minisules and is MOOT compared to the lives and work lost and animals death..I did you can too | Jun 04 16:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Different bits of news about #Novell , including what appears like an imminent sale of the company http://ur1.ca/05h3m | Jun 04 16:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Em tempo de crise, Portugal continua o "bailout" à Microsoft. É só facturar... | Jun 04 16:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A Oracle, que é tida como muito mais cara que a Microsoft, de 2008 a 2010 "só" custou 10 milhões de € em ajustes directos. | Jun 04 16:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @chrisblizzard: Laughing pretty hard at the #html5 demos from #Apple that require you to install Safari. Totally. Missed. The. Point. | Jun 04 16:53 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I can see a flame war is starting in #ilugc mailing list. Me ain't going to feed 'em :P | Jun 04 16:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Favourite and ruling party candidate in the Colombian run off election wants better relations with Venezuela and Ecuador. http://is.gd/cCvWi | Jun 04 17:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] What are the real reasons for the USA having 7 military bases in Colombia? http://is.gd/cCx3b | Jun 04 17:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @satipera Tal vez debería pedir a los cárteles de la droga colombiana al respecto? | Jun 04 17:20 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, neighborlee | Jun 04 17:21 |
| zer0c00l | hey schestowitz | Jun 04 17:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC: Stated reasons and actual reasons are not the same thing. | Jun 04 17:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @popey Dell UK confirms Hardware Warranty NOT affected when users wipe Windows and install Ubuntu! http://bit.ly/aI6fzm | Jun 04 17:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @sagarun why the [name] #gnu should not be added to #linux : http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2010-June/057408.html > hilarious! | Jun 04 17:26 | |
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| schestowitz | neighborlee: I can't call your senator | Jun 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz | hi, zer0c00l | Jun 04 17:28 |
| zer0c00l | :) | Jun 04 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, and even if you could, you'd get a 3 page taxpayer-funded form letter of why you can go fuck yourself. In polite terms of course, with your considerations in mind at all times. | Jun 04 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | They can get away with anything because there's nobody to replace them with that would do things differently, schestowitz | Jun 04 17:31 |
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| DaemonFC | I love the two-party system, it's one more choice than you get in Communist China | Jun 04 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 17:32 |
| fulano2040 | lol | Jun 04 17:32 |
| MinceR | but what a choice | Jun 04 17:32 |
| MinceR | you get to decide who does the exact same thing under the control of the exact same megacorps | Jun 04 17:33 |
| fulano2040 | Hey I have a dilema here and I like to make something like a poll | Jun 04 17:33 |
| MinceR | go ahead | Jun 04 17:34 |
| fulano2040 | If I fix something in mono | Jun 04 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I decided what costume to wear to Inconjunction this year | Jun 04 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 17:35 |
| fulano2040 | It will be wrong to do it considering that it will help m$ even if it will help developers that were forced to use c# and now have to deal with the new idea of a boss that decided that a windows only app should be cross paltform? | Jun 04 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | M.A.C.O. | Jun 04 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll have the rank of Major | Jun 04 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 17:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: wut | Jun 04 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | MACO, the commando units of Starfleet | Jun 04 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Enterprise :P | Jun 04 17:37 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 04 17:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "و ما أشهدتهم خلق السماوات و الأرض و لا خلق أنفسهم و ما كنت متخذ المضلين عضدا" - سورة الكهف 18, الآية 51 | Jun 04 17:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell is Knowingly Seeding #GNU #Linux , #MeeGo and #Android With #Microsoft Patents http://ur1.ca/05het #swpats | Jun 04 17:39 | |
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| MinceR | fulano2040: i have no idea. at least from this amount of information. | Jun 04 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | that'll be the hardest part of the cosutme to come up with | Jun 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/interview/red-hat-ceo-whitehurst-blasts-software-patents-7489 | Jun 04 17:41 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, cause GNU scares the fish away | Jun 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | of course | Jun 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: looks like gun/handcuff combo | Jun 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I guess I could take one of my own | Jun 04 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't look right, but if I kept it in holster, I might pass | Jun 04 17:42 |
| schestowitz | What for? | Jun 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | To rescue Jabba in case of injury? | Jun 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | You increase risk by carrying one | Jun 04 17:43 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | You encourage an opponent in 'da hood' to use one | Jun 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | For 'defence' | Jun 04 17:44 |
| schestowitz | You are more likely to shoot an armed person | Jun 04 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2667/dscf2846r.jpg | Jun 04 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | So you paint a target on yourself | Jun 04 17:44 |
| schestowitz | "Don't taze me, bro" | Jun 04 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think mine packs more punch | Jun 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMkGOpAF4s | Jun 04 17:45 |
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| DaemonFC | saw it already | Jun 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | you don't want to be the guy in a firefight with a taser | Jun 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | if the other guy is using live rounds | Jun 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | you get one shot that may disable him | Jun 04 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | he has 10-15 that will kill you | Jun 04 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | you tell me who has the advantage | Jun 04 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | the police are usually using restraint in deploying the taser | Jun 04 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to use one | Jun 04 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I also wouldn't feel sorry for the guy they shot if they killed him, usually | Jun 04 17:47 |
| schestowitz | It sounds like rattle snakes (one kind of then) | Jun 04 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | waving a gun around at the police is not the brightest idea ever | Jun 04 17:47 |
| schestowitz | *them | Jun 04 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | and if you manage to kill one of them and somehow live to be arrested, you'll be looking at a life sentence if you're lucky, and much more likely to get sentenced to death | Jun 04 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | juries don't tend to show cop killers much mercy | Jun 04 17:49 |
| MinceR | better not leave any witnesses or clues then :> | Jun 04 17:50 |
| fulano2040 | The think is that I as a programmer see some advantages of c# over java | Jun 04 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Yaweh sees EVERYTTHING! :-) | Jun 04 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | the death sentence is usually applied to those who deserve it | Jun 04 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | opponents point out to the corner cases where a tenth of one percent of death row inmates are acquitted later | Jun 04 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Not in the UK | Jun 04 17:51 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that which does not exist can not see :> | Jun 04 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | it takes a unanimous vote by a jury of 12 to impose the death sentence | Jun 04 17:52 |
| MinceR | fulano2040: is that worth the legal problems? | Jun 04 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | and then the guy can appeal it several times | Jun 04 17:52 |
| fulano2040 | so i was thinking in contribute some bug fixes to mono | Jun 04 17:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH2jlyo8bKE | Jun 04 17:52 |
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| fulano2040 | but I wasn't aware of all the possible missuse of my work to serve m$ interest | Jun 04 17:53 |
| schestowitz | [17:52] <fulano2040> so i was thinking in contribute some bug fixes to mono | Jun 04 17:53 |
| schestowitz | We do that too | Jun 04 17:53 |
| schestowitz | There's a big bug | Jun 04 17:53 |
| MinceR | mono itself? :> | Jun 04 17:54 |
| schestowitz | bug #1 is that it helps Microsoft | Jun 04 17:54 |
| MinceR | no, wait | Jun 04 17:54 |
| MinceR | m$ itself | Jun 04 17:54 |
| fulano2040 | yes thats the problems | Jun 04 17:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=Kassie+Dill+&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Jun 04 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. Scarred | Jun 04 17:54 |
| schestowitz | a good mono is one that has many bugs | Jun 04 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Improving it only helps it | Jun 04 17:55 |
| fulano2040 | they did something interesting with c# technically the concept is good | Jun 04 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was able to jury rig Windows Media Player 12 | Jun 04 17:56 |
| fulano2040 | the whole idea of creating and il for support other programming languages is neat | Jun 04 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://img708.imageshack.us/f/27931213.png/ | Jun 04 17:57 |
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| fulano2040 | but there are better projects like llvm that take that Idea in a improved way | Jun 04 17:58 |
| MinceR | fulano2040: have you tried Vala? | Jun 04 17:58 |
| fulano2040 | not yet I saw some examples the other day and I liked it | Jun 04 17:59 |
| fulano2040 | if matture enough to be use in a production environment? | Jun 04 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6602/11800381.png | Jun 04 18:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Ok, so using contentEditable=true, I need to use Keypress event to litsen as onchange is not available. | Jun 04 18:00 | |
| MinceR | fulano2040: i don't really know Vala | Jun 04 18:01 |
| MinceR | but is mono mature enough to be used in a production environment? :> | Jun 04 18:01 |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [17:56] <fulano2040> they did something interesting with c# technically the concept is good | Jun 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | You mean, Java, right? | Jun 04 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wonder if I could make a Directshow-compatible encoder | Jun 04 18:02 |
| MinceR | ah, we're back to DaemonFC showing off his winblows desktop on #boycottnovell | Jun 04 18:02 |
| MinceR | boring. | Jun 04 18:02 |
| MinceR | well, there are two concepts there | Jun 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: viral buzz marketing | Jun 04 18:03 |
| MinceR | the concept of java and the concept of "let's steal java and corrupt it to our ends" | Jun 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Cats, guns, Ballmer, and Vista7 | Jun 04 18:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily in that oder :-) | Jun 04 18:03 |
| MinceR | there isn't even anything special to that desktop, since it's inflexible | Jun 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | *order, not odour (Ballmer had me do a Freudian slip) | Jun 04 18:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 04 18:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/sports/04rhoden.html | Jun 04 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | Canonical Delivers Ubuntu Advantage Service Offering for Linux Desktop and Server Users | Jun 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Canonical-Delivers-Ubuntu-Advantage-Service-Offering-for-Linux-Desktop-and-Server-Users-400449/ | Jun 04 18:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical Delivers Ubuntu Advantage Service Offering for Linux Desktop and Server Users - Linux and Open Source from eWeek .::. Size~: 117.82 KB | Jun 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "Canonical is preparing to introduce a new service option for Ubuntu Linux users, known as Ubuntu Advantage." | Jun 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz | First thing I thought was, "Ubuntu Genuine Advantage" (WGA) | Jun 04 18:05 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 04 18:06 |
| MinceR | with DRM and product activation | Jun 04 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5283/70785790.png | Jun 04 18:06 |
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| MinceR | Elive already has product activation | Jun 04 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You won't hear it on the radio, but it is playing on WMP in Ogg :) | Jun 04 18:06 |
| schestowitz | CE=consumer electronics | Jun 04 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Coicidence? | Jun 04 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "Windows CE (also known officially as Windows Embedded Compact or Windows Embedded CE post version 6.0" | Jun 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | --wikipedia | Jun 04 18:07 |
| MinceR | windows CEMENT | Jun 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: probably easy to crack | Jun 04 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | CE Me and NT? | Jun 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, I thought that too 2 minutes ago | Jun 04 18:07 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: indeed | Jun 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | There's no CE left | Jun 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | ZUNENT | Jun 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | windows cement http://blip.tv/file/340692/ | Jun 04 18:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://sf.eater.com/archives/2010/06/03/farmer_bauer_files_his_thursday.php | Jun 04 18:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @janhusar: Italian #Parliament to switch to GNU/Linux and #OpenOffice http://bit.ly/diImNf #italy | Jun 04 18:09 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: still in touch with ReverendTed? | Jun 04 18:10 |
| fulano2040 | they added some things o the java concept as ahead of time compilation the use of properties | Jun 04 18:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: doesn't play | Jun 04 18:10 |
| schestowitz | js=flat | Jun 04 18:10 |
| MinceR | fulano2040: afaik java started with ahead of time compilation | Jun 04 18:10 |
| jono | schestowitz not really | Jun 04 18:10 |
| MinceR | JIT only came later | Jun 04 18:11 |
| *DaemonFC h4x0rz into the TechRights server and replaces schestowitz's Ogg files with Windows Media 10 Professional, and his articles with Folgers Crystals. | Jun 04 18:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Let's see if he notices | Jun 04 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | jono: in 2006 he talked to me about you... | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | LUG radio.. | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | His blog is silent | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | [18:10] <fulano2040> they added some things o the java concept as ahead of time compilation the use of properties | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Embrace and EXTEND | Jun 04 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was so fast that it went into the future to compile it and bring you back the results? | Jun 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Can't extinguish without some "extend" | Jun 04 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Where was this mythical JAVA you speak of? | Jun 04 18:12 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: nope | Jun 04 18:12 |
| jono | schestowitz oh? | Jun 04 18:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have ogg of that video | Jun 04 18:12 |
| schestowitz | In techrights | Jun 04 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | the only JAVA that was ever that fast was the MS Java VM, which wasn't even really JAVA by the time they got done with it | Jun 04 18:12 |
| MinceR | as for properties, even java 1.4 had them | Jun 04 18:12 |
| MinceR | and that was still only a toy language | Jun 04 18:12 |
| fulano2040 | I would liket to have that option now by defaul in every sdk of java | Jun 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | hm, i'm not sure about this | Jun 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | better ask a java guru :) | Jun 04 18:13 |
| schestowitz | jabba? | Jun 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | i didn't touch java much since 1.4 | Jun 04 18:13 |
| MinceR | they've fixed a lot of things about it since then | Jun 04 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I hate it when Jabba has the runs in his sandbox | Jun 04 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 18:13 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/linaro-nonprofit-aims-to-fight-arm-linux-fragmentation.ars | Jun 04 18:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @janhusar: Italian #Parliament to switch to GNU/Linux and #OpenOffice http://bit.ly/diImNf #italy | Jun 04 18:14 | |
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| schestowitz | How come the bird gets the bird? | Jun 04 18:14 |
| fulano2040 | what you mean by properties in java | Jun 04 18:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: get that pooper scooper....... | Jun 04 18:15 |
| fulano2040 | I mean the concept of properties instead of using getter and setter metthos | Jun 04 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I like my cat, I have no idea why I like my cat | Jun 04 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | he doesn't do much that benefits me | Jun 04 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | but I like my cat | Jun 04 18:16 |
| MinceR | syntactic sugar for getter and setter methods? | Jun 04 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 18:16 |
| fulano2040 | yes thats is | Jun 04 18:16 |
| fulano2040 | is something very simple that is not yet in java | Jun 04 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Why do humans keep cats as pets? | Jun 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Transplants | Jun 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz | In China, for lunch | Jun 04 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's horrible | Jun 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | But that one goes in the frisge | Jun 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | *fridge | Jun 04 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | that is just completely awful | Jun 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jun 04 18:17 |
| MinceR | fulano2040: i see | Jun 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | It's hard like a rocj | Jun 04 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | if I saw someone kill a cat for food, I'd shoot the person | Jun 04 18:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you need to defrost it first | Jun 04 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sorry, but I honestly would | Jun 04 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | it offends me that bad | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but you east bacon and beed | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | *beef | Jun 04 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | pigs are stupid | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | We need a new word for car food | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | *cat food | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Where "food" refers to the cat, now what s/he eats | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | How about MinceR? | Jun 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz | As in, tonight we east mutton, tomorrow Mincer (cat)? | Jun 04 18:19 |
| MinceR | what | Jun 04 18:19 |
| MinceR | fulano2040: our java experts are unavailable. :> | Jun 04 18:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: processed cat | Jun 04 18:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you know, like we make new words to euphemise murder | Jun 04 18:19 |
| MinceR | why do you want to eat carnivorous mammals? | Jun 04 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Like "burger" or "kebab" | Jun 04 18:19 |
| schestowitz | I never hear someone he's "cooking a cow" | Jun 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | they're cooking beef | Jun 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | which is a word for cow meat | Jun 04 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Or boiling an aborted chick | Jun 04 18:20 |
| schestowitz | beef? | Jun 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | since cows are rarely cooked whole | Jun 04 18:20 |
| fulano2040 | yes beef | Jun 04 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | steak | Jun 04 18:20 |
| MinceR | and i doubt that "egg" is an euphemism for murder :> | Jun 04 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | ftw | Jun 04 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | steak goes well with eggs | Jun 04 18:21 |
| fulano2040 | lol | Jun 04 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | maybe some hashbrowns too | Jun 04 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | with salt and ketchup | Jun 04 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | and coffee, black | Jun 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: depends what egg | Jun 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | There are human eggs too | Jun 04 18:21 |
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| MinceR | and they aren't murder either | Jun 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | We use Apple's iTampon for it | Jun 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Or iPad | Jun 04 18:21 |
| MinceR | they're merely potential for disaster. | Jun 04 18:21 |
| schestowitz | The word butcher is botched | Jun 04 18:23 |
| schestowitz | It's now almost the same as 'murderer', but not quote there yet | Jun 04 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Also, we now have machines to do the death without an 'undertaker' so to speak | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | You can blame machines for the deaths | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | And then you just pick up dead bodies and turn them to food | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Slaughterhouses are off the map | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Unless you seatch YouTube for animal rights groups | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | *rch | Jun 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/3245-iphone-os-40-lg-flutter Meh. | Jun 04 18:25 |
| schestowitz | More whitewash | Jun 04 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Open this, open that | Jun 04 18:25 |
| MinceR | kneel and open your mouth? | Jun 04 18:26 |
| MinceR | that "flutter" concept looks unusable | Jun 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX6ADbr6Qmg | Jun 04 18:27 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqjtz3rEPG0&NR=1 | Jun 04 18:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2010/06/steve_jobs_at_d8_tablets_and_i.php | Jun 04 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | Murdoch press meets them anually... a ritual/pilgrimage of Microsoft and Apple | Jun 04 18:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Perhaps this is the first think I liked from Microsoft team - HTML+time http://bit.ly/cbYqk2 http://bit.ly/aYx4vh #microsoft | Jun 04 18:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The gmail logo is starting to look like it ought to have been Novell's new logo | Jun 04 18:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Spam in press releases: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/xtuple-web-portal-links-its-customers-and-their-business-partners,1326435.shtml | Jun 04 18:40 |
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| schestowitz | " Tweet this: Open source business management software provider #xTuple releases xTuple Web Portal, CRM integration with #Drupal - http://bit.ly/clKVv6 " | Jun 04 18:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Turkish PM tells Israel "thou shalt not kill" Christians, Jews,Muslims all find their own reasons for ignoring that inconvenient rule. | Jun 04 18:44 | |
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| schestowitz | What is this "Open Source Content Management System solution Umbraco"? | Jun 04 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | upgrading my old computer with that 4670 :) | Jun 04 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | waste not want not | Jun 04 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | debating on whether I should take the wireless card out of the old system and put it in here | Jun 04 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | how much power do those draw? | Jun 04 18:52 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.osnews.com/story/23411/Apple_s_HTML5_Showcase_Isn_t_HTML5_Blocks_Other_Browsers Seen this yet schestowitz | Jun 04 18:55 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] #FollowFriday with a metal theme: @severedfifth @Anthrax @IronMaidenFC @MolotovSolution @FSEANCC @theacaciastrain @metalinjection | Jun 04 18:58 | |
| DaemonFC | hmm, that card has HDMI | Jun 04 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | I may hook it up to my TV | Jun 04 18:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq - The Magic Touch - http://bit.ly/buGLKO - we give the tablet craze the #shotofjaq treatment - let us know your thoughts! | Jun 04 19:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 19:03 |
| oiaohm | Hmm new client | Jun 04 19:04 |
| oiaohm | Not as good with laged connect. | Jun 04 19:04 |
| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/TransferSummit-The-practical-magic-of-open-source-1014579.html I wish I could attentend. | Jun 04 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3286/picture50c.jpg | Jun 04 19:04 |
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| DaemonFC | That's the newer one | Jun 04 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | MadRobot: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2010/06/osc_jordan.html | Jun 04 19:08 |
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| MadRobot | schestowitz, OSC? | Jun 04 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | I now have 3 PCs and a Mac | Jun 04 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | damn | Jun 04 19:10 |
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| DaemonFC | a couple more years at this rate and I can open up a coffee bar in my apartment | Jun 04 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 19:10 |
| oiaohm | I do have 2 macs and the same number of PC's. | Jun 04 19:11 |
| oiaohm | Only the macs I have are old ones. | Jun 04 19:11 |
| oiaohm | I have them for there cases I like the looks of them. | Jun 04 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | mine is a PowerPC Mac | Jun 04 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | it has Fedora on it | Jun 04 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | they still haven't released Fedora 13 for the PPC | Jun 04 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 19:12 |
| oiaohm | 2 imacs | Jun 04 19:13 |
| oiaohm | Bothing Linux thin termianls these days. DaemonFC | Jun 04 19:13 |
| oiaohm | Ie nice looking but basically gutless. | Jun 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | the system itself is a Dual G4 1.2 Ghz, 1 GB DDR400, and an ATI Radeon 9800 that I gutted out of an old PC | Jun 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | it works, the GPU is kind of weak | Jun 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's better than the ATI Race card that came with it | Jun 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | *Rage | Jun 04 19:14 |
| oiaohm | Fasted one of mine is a PPC single core 900 mhz | Jun 04 19:14 |
| oiaohm | Slowest one is 500 Mhz | Jun 04 19:15 |
| oiaohm | As I said basically gutless | Jun 04 19:15 |
| oiaohm | and the graphics card is poor. | Jun 04 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | did Intel ever fix their 64-bit support? | Jun 04 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | they had a feature caleld Macro Fusion that didn't work in X86-64 mode | Jun 04 19:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FollowFriday @ruiseabra @satipera @nsisodiya | Jun 04 19:15 | |
| DaemonFC | at least on the Core 2, which is what I have | Jun 04 19:15 |
| oiaohm | Nop | Jun 04 19:15 |
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| oiaohm | It still only sometimes works. | Jun 04 19:16 |
| oiaohm | Compared to not works at all. | Jun 04 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | I like my Phenom II much better | Jun 04 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | I have an all AMD system now | Jun 04 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | it works much better | Jun 04 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Intel just makes unreliable overpriced crap it seems | Jun 04 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | they don't seem to have any quality standards on their motherboard partners | Jun 04 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | either the board physically fails or it never worked right to begin with due to a bad BIOS | Jun 04 19:18 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/390572/8e232774d2ee4c9e/ | Jun 04 19:18 |
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| DaemonFC | both things happened to me with the same system | Jun 04 19:18 |
| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Google-hosts-ten-terabytes-of-patents-for-the-US-patent-office-1015907.html | Jun 04 19:18 |
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| oiaohm | Hmm this could be nasty. | Jun 04 19:18 |
| cubezzz | faster isn't always better | Jun 04 19:18 |
| cubezzz | you have a closed source bios | Jun 04 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | "We're ACPI certified by Microsoft" | Jun 04 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | \best line ever | Jun 04 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Oh, that explains everything then, thank you" | Jun 04 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 19:19 |
| oiaohm | That is panic. | Jun 04 19:19 |
| oiaohm | ACPI tests from Microsoft are defective | Jun 04 19:19 |
| oiaohm | Even for running MS OS's | Jun 04 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they've revised the BIOS since fixing it over that incident? | Jun 04 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still running the BIOS ROM they sent to me via email | Jun 04 19:20 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Jun 04 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't ever flash the BIOS unless I'm experiencing the problem the new one says it fixes | Jun 04 19:20 |
| oiaohm | You are talking about foxconn mess DaemonFC? | Jun 04 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 04 19:21 |
| oiaohm | These days foxconn uses the Linux hardware compadiblity test | Jun 04 19:21 |
| cubezzz | no problem, flash away, but first make a backup of your bios | Jun 04 19:21 |
| cubezzz | like, another physical flash chip | Jun 04 19:21 |
| oiaohm | They were very sorry over the MS mess. | Jun 04 19:21 |
| oiaohm | MS and standards kinda don't mix. | Jun 04 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | they fixed it then never revised the BIOS for that board again | Jun 04 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 04 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | 8/11/08 "Fixed Ubuntu can't restart when S3 resume from Linux OS (Ubuntu 8.04.1)" | Jun 04 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 04 19:22 |
| cubezzz | people just don't practise preventative maintainence | Jun 04 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | have there been any other Foxconn Linux issues since that? | Jun 04 19:22 |
| oiaohm | Yes foxconn is trying to forget they ever made the board. | Jun 04 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They had one of their engineers call me, I think he was in the UK | Jun 04 19:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you are missing the worst bit for Foxconn | Jun 04 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Nigel Babu announces Project Cleansweep - we need your help to review these awesome Ubuntu patches - http://bit.ly/aPTJlv #ubuntu | Jun 04 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Carl Brunning | Jun 04 19:23 |
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| oiaohm | Taht last bios update fixed a stack of Windows crashing issues the board was having. | Jun 04 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | we had a talk about that board | Jun 04 19:23 |
| oiaohm | Basically everyone was screwed by MS diagnostics. | Jun 04 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | he said they were trying to get rid of them because they cost more to make than they were selling them for | Jun 04 19:24 |
| oiaohm | Made was not exactly the word. | Jun 04 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, So the Linux crash and freeze issue was causing problems for Windows as well? | Jun 04 19:24 |
| oiaohm | Drivers and techicall support trying to fix the issues it was having. | Jun 04 19:25 |
| oiaohm | Was expensive DaemonFC | Jun 04 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | but didn't they certify it for Vista? | Jun 04 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | why would it be a problem on Vista? | Jun 04 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thinking of starting meme similar to the rickroll that whenever anyone whines about software/freedom, link them to http://bit.ly/8y7VtE | Jun 04 19:25 | |
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| oiaohm | Vista random lockups. DaemonFC | Jun 04 19:25 |
| oiaohm | Yes it was vista certifed | Jun 04 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | so the update fixed Windows problems as well? | Jun 04 19:26 |
| oiaohm | And Vista was running like a dog because the tests were wrong. | Jun 04 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | I never noticed, I tried to avoid Windows at that point | Jun 04 19:26 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Jun 04 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Vista was too terrible to think about using on any kind of PC | Jun 04 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | some people apparently managed | Jun 04 19:27 |
| oiaohm | Once foxconn worked all this out all new boards are tested against the Linux hardware test suit | Jun 04 19:27 |
| oiaohm | So at least one OS can run stable. | Jun 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | it was annoying as all hell, it had tons of bugs, plenty of stuff that worked in XP stopped working in Vista, Vista was too slow to run on most hardware sold with XP... | Jun 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I know none of that was a news flash though | Jun 04 19:27 |
| oiaohm | Basically foxconn is not very impressed with MS. | Jun 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | so if they test it with Linux, then they know Windows works too? | Jun 04 19:28 |
| oiaohm | Even more stops working on 7 | Jun 04 19:28 |
| oiaohm | No at least that way they know if they have a hardware fault or a software issue. | Jun 04 19:28 |
| oiaohm | Ie Linux works not a hardware fault. | Jun 04 19:29 |
| oiaohm | Its software somewhere. | Jun 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I referred to their motherboards as the Weasel-con Macgyverboards at one point | Jun 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Weasels that con you into buying a board you have to Macgyver | Jun 04 19:29 |
| oiaohm | It was not only the end user who was having todo Macgyver | Jun 04 19:30 |
| cubezzz | Sun hardware was better | Jun 04 19:30 |
| oiaohm | the board maker was as well DaemonFC | Jun 04 19:30 |
| cubezzz | stabilizer bars on the motherboard, better power supplies... | Jun 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkexJ-MBCQ | Jun 04 19:31 |
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| cubezzz | oiaohm, who is impressed with Microsoft? | Jun 04 19:31 |
| cubezzz | no one | Jun 04 19:32 |
| cubezzz | not even shareholders now | Jun 04 19:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @jonobacon Sadly blocked in the UK due to some stupid copyright infringement. | Jun 04 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC | what's funny is I have Windows 7 Ultimate on my old computer | Jun 04 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | sadly I burned the free license up on that thing | Jun 04 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | then got stuck with Home Premium on this | Jun 04 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | the funny thing is, they don't really seem all that different to me, but as a home user I guess they really wouldn't | Jun 04 19:36 |
| oiaohm | Hang on is that like box set equal licence. DaemonFC | Jun 04 19:36 |
| oiaohm | Ie transferable | Jun 04 19:36 |
| oiaohm | Or is that OEM class stuck. | Jun 04 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | I have an OEM Home Premium, and a MSDN key for Ultimate | Jun 04 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | but it's a VLK x1 | Jun 04 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | so it would refuse to activate if I put it on here | Jun 04 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I also have a DreamSpark VLK x1 for Windows Server 2008 R2 | Jun 04 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | which I am using now | Jun 04 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | and it is not entirely Windows 7 compatible | Jun 04 19:38 |
| oiaohm | That would be a single shot Mac key right. | Jun 04 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | VLK lets you activate one motherboard, it works kind of like OEM | Jun 04 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | the difference is that you can only register over the internet once | Jun 04 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | if you need to again, you have to call the nuclear football hotline and get the launch codes | Jun 04 19:40 |
| oiaohm | Not always. | Jun 04 19:40 |
| oiaohm | Some academces you can deactavte then move. | Jun 04 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | not with DreamSpark | Jun 04 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | and another thing is that free antivirus wonb't install on Server | Jun 04 19:41 |
| oiaohm | Bugger. | Jun 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | they make you buy really expensive server antivirus for $400 | Jun 04 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Automated telephone lines should be outlawed by the EU. Better customer service? #fail | Jun 04 19:42 | |
| oiaohm | Even inside neworks. | Jun 04 19:42 |
| oiaohm | Most free anti-virus play up. | Jun 04 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Watching cranky geeks (and other podcasts) whilst making a massive chilli for tea! Red wine ftw! | Jun 04 19:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin wb, long time no see | Jun 04 19:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Can't see the video outside of the US, well you can Cry Me a River at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-m3xKdP9k #crymeariver | Jun 04 19:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7940/picture54f.jpg | Jun 04 19:57 |
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| DaemonFC | 32" monitor | Jun 04 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3096/picture56s.jpg | Jun 04 19:57 |
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| cubezzz | anyone recall when Linux got too big to put the all the binaries and source on one DVD? | Jun 04 19:58 |
| cubezzz | I got a Redhat 8 DVD that had everything, install, gnome, kde, and all source | Jun 04 19:58 |
| oiaohm | Techincally it has not. cubezzz | Jun 04 20:01 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? | Jun 04 20:02 |
| oiaohm | Techinically it too large to fit on a 4 Gb DVD a 8 you can still fit most. | Jun 04 20:02 |
| oiaohm | 8 gb DVD are just too expensive. | Jun 04 20:02 |
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| cubezzz | maybe osdisc.com sells one with everything | Jun 04 20:03 |
| cubezzz | not sure | Jun 04 20:03 |
| oiaohm | We know to get worried we we start seeing blueray images. | Jun 04 20:03 |
| oiaohm | Remember double sided DVD discs also exist. cubezzz | Jun 04 20:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie source 1 side binarys the other. | Jun 04 20:05 |
| oiaohm | And are cheeper to press than 8 gb single sided. | Jun 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz | China bans evidence from torture http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10198592.stm | Jun 04 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're a flower | Jun 04 20:08 |
| cubezzz | nano note looks interesting: | Jun 04 20:08 |
| cubezzz | http://sharism.cc/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1&osCsid=bd185c951b3fe159a9b07596ddca17dc | Jun 04 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/06/03/Jean-Bray-turns-Eighty "Below are my brothers Don and Rob. Those who know what I may look like may detect a pattern." | Jun 04 20:09 |
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| schestowitz | They are all bald in this family | Jun 04 20:09 |
| cubezzz | "windows 7 ultimate memory waster" | Jun 04 20:10 |
| MinceR | to baldly go where no-one has gone before! | Jun 04 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | K-Lite Codec Pack now has a DirectShow filter for VP8 | Jun 04 20:12 |
| cubezzz | CFL is so stupid, it's got like 8 teams, and two are called Roughriders :) | Jun 04 20:12 |
| cubezzz | couldn't they think of another name :-P | Jun 04 20:12 |
| cubezzz | actually they did change the name | Jun 04 20:15 |
| cubezzz | back in 1996, I'm not a football fan :) | Jun 04 20:16 |
| cubezzz | Ottawa Roughriders are no more | Jun 04 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Samsung_Wave_Shipped_with_Infected_microSD_Card/551-111546-893.html | Jun 04 20:22 |
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| schestowitz | Win-only | Jun 04 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/04/panda_cloud_anti_virus/ | Jun 04 20:23 |
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| *DaemonFC whacks schestowitz with Panda Fog Antivirus | Jun 04 20:23 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 04 20:23 |
| *MinceR invents Vapor Computing | Jun 04 20:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Coins database is a great start but unless strict rules exist about classifying expenditure, sensitive spending will be expertly hidden. | Jun 04 20:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Duke Nukem Forever | Jun 04 20:30 |
| MinceR | all your data will be stored and all your computing will happen on servers that will be released sometime in the future | Jun 04 20:34 |
| MinceR | and will be located somewhere, but you won't know where | Jun 04 20:34 |
| MinceR | someone might or might not care about your privacy, security and backing up your data | Jun 04 20:35 |
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| MinceR | Panda Fog is what happens if you hit a panda with a railgun at point blank range. :> | Jun 04 20:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Well, the new webm license will allow you to make close source app too. webm choose BSD license #webm | Jun 04 20:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @brunomiguel: #Google just updated #WebM license: #GPL compatible http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/googles-updated http://ur1.ca/05ii1 | Jun 04 20:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've found that hiding Internet Explorer prevents most malware infestations | Jun 04 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft claims IE 8 is the most secure browser, but the results of people that have used it speak for themselves | Jun 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | and "Protected Mode" hasn't helped at all | Jun 04 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] hehehe #cybercrime fascism bites Google ♺ @slashdot: Germany Finds Kismet, Custom Code In Google Car http://bit.ly/bv9uHT | Jun 04 20:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why would people use "cloud antivirus"? | Jun 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | How does it work anyway? | Jun 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | takes files from your disk and sends them WHERE exactly? | Jun 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 20:51 |
| MinceR | you send your files somewhere, and then something happens | Jun 04 20:53 |
| MinceR | or nothing happens | Jun 04 20:53 |
| MinceR | your files might be stored forever and made available for all governments | Jun 04 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Schroedinger's Cat Antivirus? | Jun 04 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 20:54 |
| MinceR | you might get a message saying that the files are infected or that they aren't infected | Jun 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't trust the very concept | Jun 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | the idea of something taking any file it damned well pleases and sends it off to god knows who to do who knows what with | Jun 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Behavioral Blocking" | Jun 04 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Heuristics have been used in antivirus for years | Jun 04 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | but now it's "Behavioral Blocking" | Jun 04 20:56 |
| MinceR | http://xkcd.com/573/ | Jun 04 20:57 |
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| DaemonFC | does it mention how often their "Behavioral Blocking is wrong and deletes a system file? | Jun 04 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | of course not | Jun 04 20:57 |
| MinceR | if it was a windows system file then it wasn't wrong | Jun 04 20:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Issue 4547 - android - DROID NO FONT SIZE ADJUSTMENT - Do Google care?, seems not, shame :( http://tinyurl.com/yblfg25 | Jun 04 20:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, What amuses me is the Fisher-Price GUIs on some antivirus programs | Jun 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | the better to fit their environment | Jun 04 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you see a GUI like that, the antivirus product itself is probably not going to help you much | Jun 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | most AV products suck | Jun 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | plus if you're using windows you're in trouble anyway | Jun 04 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | Norton used to (don't know if they still do because I won't use Norton anything) require IE's rendering engine to render the user interface in their antivirus suite | Jun 04 21:02 |
| MinceR | it's sad that symantec uses Norton's name | Jun 04 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Norton is also the AV that will slow your system down the most | Jun 04 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | nothing else even comes close | Jun 04 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do you figure I'd get in trouble if I put all the Foobar2000 plug-ins in one gigantic installer that dumped them all into the users plugin folder? | Jun 04 21:05 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 04 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, looks like Security Essentials operates in some of the same ways as Panda Cloud Antivirus | Jun 04 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | particularly the "Dynamic Signatures" bit | Jun 04 21:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I don't miss facebook, my sisters status: "So embarrased did a silent but violent in a lift today it stank, this little kid started crying!" | Jun 04 21:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I was offline for while due to phone issues...... | Jun 04 21:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Running Ubuntu inside Virtualbox under OSX. OSX says 17 mins till battery charged, Ubuntu says 15 mins until charged. Odd. | Jun 04 21:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] This is a realistic basis for a peace and to be encouraged. European Jews for a Just Peace. EJJP. http://is.gd/cCMlt #occupation #palestine | Jun 04 21:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Everybody should watch this! -- The Economic Hitmen http://youtu.be/37Dvt2EqXF4 | Jun 04 21:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Jun 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | I have to download some DRM bundle to watch TV from my satellite receiver on my PC | Jun 04 22:02 |
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| balrog | DaemonFC: which one? | Jun 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | DirecTV2PC | Jun 04 22:12 |
| balrog | see that's what I hate about DRM | Jun 04 22:12 |
| balrog | it doesn't stop "pirates" | Jun 04 22:12 |
| balrog | it doesn't even make it harder for them | Jun 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | no, it's jsut a damned resource pig | Jun 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | and it makes you use Windows | Jun 04 22:12 |
| balrog | they'll get an hdcp-stripper and capture direct | Jun 04 22:12 |
| balrog | eww | Jun 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Media Player was showing me the files on my DVR, but listed them as 0 minutes long and wouldn't open them | Jun 04 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | it suggested that it was a missing codec, so I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack and it still wouldn't play | Jun 04 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | although I did get a better MP3 decoder B-) | Jun 04 22:14 |
| balrog | we | Jun 04 22:14 |
| balrog | ew * | Jun 04 22:14 |
| balrog | why are you using all that? | Jun 04 22:14 |
| balrog | another thing | Jun 04 22:14 |
| balrog | you remember hulu claimed one reason they can't go to html5 is because of drm? | Jun 04 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jun 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix too | Jun 04 22:15 |
| balrog | okay | Jun 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | balrog, I got it to where Ican rip to Vorbis, FLAC, and Lame in Windows Media Player | Jun 04 22:15 |
| balrog | Hulu's DRM is useless | Jun 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 22:15 |
| balrog | DaemonFC: you don't want to rip FLAC in WMP | Jun 04 22:15 |
| balrog | use Exact Audio Copy | Jun 04 22:15 |
| balrog | it's proprietary, true, but it does a 'perfect rip' | Jun 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I know, I just wanted to see if I could get WMP to not suck | Jun 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | and apparently I could | Jun 04 22:16 |
| balrog | on the Mac we have XLD | Jun 04 22:16 |
| balrog | fully open source, and the guy who programs that thing is a maniac | Jun 04 22:16 |
| balrog | updates come out every week or more frequently | Jun 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of like having Windows Media Player depend on GPL'd libraries to do stuff | Jun 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's ironic | Jun 04 22:17 |
| balrog | well I'd never use WMP to rip CDs | Jun 04 22:17 |
| balrog | anyway Netflix uses silverlight | Jun 04 22:17 |
| balrog | Hulu uses Flash with RTMP | Jun 04 22:17 |
| balrog | it's very easy to rip Hulu episodes | Jun 04 22:17 |
| balrog | a few utilities and it's all automatic | Jun 04 22:17 |
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| DaemonFC | balrog, unfortunately I have an awful lot of WMA files that Microsoft "donated to me" when they had that Urge store going | Jun 04 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | donated meaning their DRM system was pathetic and the files are now mine :) | Jun 04 22:30 |
| balrog | DaemonFC: I'd probably attempt to strip the drm | Jun 04 22:30 |
| balrog | even so, I dislike WMA | Jun 04 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | I did | Jun 04 22:30 |
| balrog | what bitrate are they? | Jun 04 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | 192k WMA 9.2 | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | ehh | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | I don't like lossy | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | and I don't like anything below 256kbps aac or MP3 V0 | Jun 04 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't either, but it was a free trial of their subscription music service | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | (or vorbis) | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | I see. | Jun 04 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | then I unDRM'd the files | Jun 04 22:31 |
| balrog | does't music expire when you drop the subscription though? | Jun 04 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | the DRM tag is what enforces the expiration date | Jun 04 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | I downloaded these back in 2006 | Jun 04 22:32 |
| balrog | ahha | Jun 04 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | they're 4 years overdue to expire *grin* | Jun 04 22:32 |
| balrog | lol | Jun 04 22:32 |
| balrog | imho, when you rent music you rent it | Jun 04 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and on an unlicensed computer no less | Jun 04 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 22:33 |
| balrog | it's funny because my library is putting out audiobooks in collaboration with Overdrive | Jun 04 22:33 |
| balrog | some are DRMed WMAs but others are un-DRMed MP3s | Jun 04 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | I have music in several formats now | Jun 04 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MP3, Ogg, Flac, AAC, and WMA | Jun 04 22:33 |
| balrog | I stick to FLAC [and apple lossless], AAC 256 or better, and MP3 V0 or better | Jun 04 22:34 |
| balrog | ogg is ok too but it's not as easy to play back | Jun 04 22:34 |
| balrog | as I use a Mac, or Linux, I don't want any WMA | Jun 04 22:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @ansol: New blog post: Parlamento Italiano migra desktops e servidores para software livre http://ur1.ca/05iwr | Jun 04 22:34 | |
| balrog | I had trouble with ASF before :( | Jun 04 22:34 |
| Techrights | Title: Software Livre no SAPO » Blog Archive » Parlamento Italiano migra desktops e servidores para software livre .::. Size~: 43.01 KB | Jun 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | yes, MP3 plays on everything calling itself a portable media player | Jun 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | from an ipod on down to the no name Chinese something or other | Jun 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 04 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's only three guarantees in life | Jun 04 22:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Acire/PyJunior Project Maintainers Required - http://bit.ly/bpGldF #acire #pythonsnippets #pyjunior | Jun 04 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | death, taxes, and that MP3 does indeed play everywhere | Jun 04 22:35 |
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| DaemonFC | my 1995 Ford Taurus plays MP3s | Jun 04 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | (it was an upgrade) | Jun 04 22:36 |
| balrog | DaemonFC: does it play VBR MP3s? | Jun 04 22:36 |
| balrog | I'll do CBR but only at 320 | Jun 04 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the deck itself isn't real old | Jun 04 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | it has an audio in jack too | Jun 04 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | so it could play the Vorbis files on my Sansa | Jun 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was odd that it can play WMAs on a CD | Jun 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | who the hell would do such a thing? | Jun 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | but yeah, my car is Windows Media compatible | Jun 04 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | I guess the level of suck matches the car | Jun 04 22:38 |
| balrog | :( | Jun 04 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | balrog, I just can't get over how tinny and horrible WMA sounds at low bitrates | Jun 04 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft was calling it CD quality at 64kbps at one point | Jun 04 22:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 04 22:39 |
| balrog | wtf!? | Jun 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | "If you use 24 kbps, you can send it over a dial up internet connection in real time!" | Jun 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, what's left of it anyway | Jun 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Is it just me, or did Nirvana record this album at the bottom of a swimming pool? | Jun 04 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 04 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Coding Technologies is making the same sorts of "ZOMG MAGIC!!!!" claims about High Efficiency AAC | Jun 04 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's good, but nothing is that good | Jun 04 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, if I had to stream something at 64kbps, I'd use HE-AAC | Jun 04 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | but I'd rather just use a higher bitrate | Jun 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | i'd rather just use FLAC and stop worrying | Jun 04 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | How did you make the terrorist give up Osama so fast? | Jun 04 22:45 |
| balrog | DaemonFC: obviously | Jun 04 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I just made him listen to a Nine Inch Nails album in 24k WMA. | Jun 04 22:45 |
| balrog | eww | Jun 04 22:45 |
| MinceR | that's unfair to NIN | Jun 04 22:45 |
| balrog | I want 24-bit flac | Jun 04 22:45 |
| balrog | not 24k wma | Jun 04 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | balrog, I had a utility from Microsoft at one point | Jun 04 22:46 |
| balrog | yea? | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | what did it do? | Jun 04 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Convert your MP3s to 64k WMA and save hard drive space" | Jun 04 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | "You'll never tell the difference!" | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | EWWW | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | convert lossy to lossy!? | Jun 04 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | that's the last thing you'd ever want to do | Jun 04 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | 64k WMA at that | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | even 320kbps mp3 to aac | Jun 04 22:47 |
| balrog | never | Jun 04 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | well, Microsoft says converting 128k MP3 to 64k WMA is still CD quality | Jun 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | are you saying they lie? | Jun 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | look at a spectrogram of lossy-to-lossy | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | ask anyone who knows something about audio | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | or better: look at a spectrogram | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | audacity has it | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | you'll see the high frequency cutoff | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | and if you zoom in youll see blocking | Jun 04 22:48 |
| balrog | then do a blind ABX test | Jun 04 22:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Quick FRI: Fri 11th June: Ubucon, Sat 12th June: I keynote SELF at 8am - all at http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/ - be there! #ubuntu | Jun 04 22:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Me wanna too! ♺ @jwildeboer: Yay! My #transnational identity card is here! So proud! Official citizen of the first transnational REPUBLIC! | Jun 04 23:00 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The church over next to the church, next to the church had an amusing sign out today | Jun 04 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Come with me if you want to live" | Jun 04 23:06 |
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| DaemonFC | apparently Jesus is a terminator reprogrammed by the resistance | Jun 04 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | and Satan is a liquid metal anti-terminator-terminator | Jun 04 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | it all makes sense now | Jun 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 04 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR speaking of which | Jun 04 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | Terminator 3 kind of sucked | Jun 04 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I knew how it would end when his power supply malfunctioned and he threw it out the window | Jun 04 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | and the movie still had like an hour left to go :( | Jun 04 23:10 |
| MinceR | i liked it | Jun 04 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | but come on, the terminator in the first two movies never had a hydrogen fuel cell | Jun 04 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | how come all of a sudden, an obsolete terminator model gets upgraded with two of them? | Jun 04 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 23:11 |
| MinceR | i don't remember anything about hydrogen fuel cells | Jun 04 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | well, a miniature reactor of some sort anyway | Jun 04 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | I remember him mentioning hydrogen | Jun 04 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jun 04 23:12 |
| MinceR | hydrogen fuel cells aren't called reactors, afaik | Jun 04 23:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez interesting video, thanks | Jun 04 23:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Freda is definitely mine. She can work the old Ixus i. http://is.gd/cCRjB- http://is.gd/cCRkc- | Jun 04 23:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Only a month on and the Kin is discounted? http://tinyurl.com/2wt2l4u #microsoft #kin #fail #windows #zune | Jun 04 23:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | I've been listening to my music all day | Jun 04 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm to S | Jun 04 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 04 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | System of a Down :D | Jun 04 23:38 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Ololuiqui - Chunks | Jun 04 23:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh golly. I just watched an episode of You Have Been Watching with @charltonbrooker and I think I have a bit of a crush on @VictoriaCoren | Jun 04 23:39 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I got into a sound war wit hthe downstairs neighbor finally | Jun 04 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | and he lost | Jun 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 04 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | my subwoofers are small, but I have many more of them | Jun 04 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 04 23:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Already Trying to Infiltrate Canadian #Government Contracts by Pretending to be “Open” http://ur1.ca/05jja | Jun 04 23:49 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 04 23:52 |
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