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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The best Twitter app Ive used is Cloud based (Seesmic).I think the migration to the cloud will start with apps like this.Jun 06 00:00
ender2070lol iCoasterJun 06 00:10
*Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulfJun 06 00:12
DaemonFCender2070, pepperoni and green peppers mushrooms olives chivesJun 06 00:21
DaemonFC:PJun 06 00:21
DaemonFChttp://pepperonip.ytmnd.com/Jun 06 00:22
TechrightsTitle:  YTMND - Pepperoni and green peppers, mushroom olives chives .::. Size~: 4.6 KBJun 06 00:22
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 00:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WorldPeace2Day Basic living items DENIED by #Israel in2 #Gaza.WHY? //because they don't want them to *live*. it's methodical #genocideJun 06 00:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @LiberalHitGirl RT @JosephAGallant: "Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan, I can't wait to see who #Obama gives us." #tcot // Palin // OUCHJun 06 00:30
DaemonFChttp://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/mseupdate/thread/352682dc-cacd-4410-b3a8-63ccdd4a199c/Jun 06 00:35
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DaemonFChumorous Jun 06 00:35
DaemonFCMS Security Essentials isn't updating the signaturesJun 06 00:36
DaemonFCMicrosoft Employee: "That's a feature!"Jun 06 00:36
MinceRlolJun 06 00:38
DaemonFCnot protecting me from viruses is a feature of Microsoft's antivirus programJun 06 00:39
WireWulfsignatures like the anti backup/rip iso ones on the xbox360?Jun 06 00:39
DaemonFCthat's oddJun 06 00:39
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MinceRjust like not protecting from gator/claria malware was a feature of their anti-malware programJun 06 00:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My top 5 metal for this weekend (a little late) # 1 Sonata Arctica - Full Moon http://bit.ly/kK5o9 #yourockon #metalJun 06 00:50
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Sonata Arctica - Full Moon .::. Size~: 88.39 KBJun 06 00:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #2 Dragonland, Neverending Story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGP5LgUsvK0 #metal #yourockonJun 06 00:51
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Dragonland, Neverending Story .::. Size~: 90.44 KBJun 06 00:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] # 3 Cradle of Filth - From The Cradle To Enslave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsh-OBQddc #yourockon #metalJun 06 00:52
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Cradle of Filth - From The Cradle To Enslave Live ( DVD ) .::. Size~: 100.44 KBJun 06 00:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] # 4 Joe Satriani - Always with me, always with you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM #metal #yourockonJun 06 00:54
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Joe Satriani - Always with me, always with you .::. Size~: 97.54 KBJun 06 00:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] # 5 Korn - Shoots and Ladders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Tz2EF7oLw #metal #yourockonJun 06 00:56
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Chips_B_MalroyHi everyoneJun 06 00:59
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/04/expensive_malware_appears_for_microsofts_windows_mobile.htmlJun 06 00:59
TechrightsTitle: AppleInsider | Expensive malware appears for Microsoft's Windows Mobile .::. Size~: 62.82 KBJun 06 01:00
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6535TS20100604?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r2:c0.109181:b34618290:z0Jun 06 01:00
TechrightsTitle: Hackers plant viruses in Windows smartphone games| Reuters .::. Size~: 50.25 KBJun 06 01:00
Chips_B_Malroy"The games -- 3D Anti-Terrorist and PDA Poker Art -- are available on sites that provide legitimate software for mobile devices, according to John Hering, CEO of San Francisco-based security firm Lookout.  Those games are bundled with malicious software that automatically dials premium-rate telephone services in Somalia, Italy and other countries, sometimes ringing up hundreds of dollars in charges in a single monthJun 06 01:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, looking to finish for the night. Have some great articles coming to Openbytes shortly, including a Q&A with the Peppermint team.Jun 06 01:01
Chips_B_MalroyMadRobot, Omar. are up awake?Jun 06 01:02
ender2070Windows is a virus minefieldJun 06 01:02
Chips_B_MalroyYep, and CE like its big brother is no differentJun 06 01:03
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20006882-245.htmlJun 06 01:04
DaemonFCAvira has almost no impact on system performance according to av comparatives Jun 06 01:04
TechrightsTitle: Malware found lurking in apps for Windows Mobile | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 145.35 KBJun 06 01:04
DaemonFCwonder how they managed thatJun 06 01:04
*DaemonFC disabled their nag screen by denying it permission to open :)Jun 06 01:04
Chips_B_MalroyDaemonFC> Avira and Avast were the best for windowsJun 06 01:04
DaemonFCAvira installer asks you to turn off Windows DefenderJun 06 01:05
DaemonFC:DJun 06 01:05
Chips_B_MalroyWindows Defender sucksJun 06 01:05
DaemonFCof courseJun 06 01:05
cubezzzI don't understand why people keep using dozeJun 06 01:05
Chips_B_Malroycompared to malwarebytes, spybot, or lavasoft adwareJun 06 01:05
DaemonFCit detects "activation exploits" but regularly misses actual malwareJun 06 01:05
DaemonFCeveryone should turn it off first thing they doJun 06 01:06
DaemonFC:PJun 06 01:06
DaemonFCwaste of resourcesJun 06 01:06
cubezzzthey like to complain I guessJun 06 01:06
Chips_B_MalroyDaemonFC> everyone should turn it off first thing they do"  no, they should just stop using windows and move to Free softwareJun 06 01:06
cubezzztoo many sheepleJun 06 01:07
Chips_B_Malroy"its all I know"Jun 06 01:07
Chips_B_MalroylolJun 06 01:07
Chips_B_Malroylol?Jun 06 01:07
Chips_B_Malroyhear that a lotJun 06 01:07
ender2070http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Joyplus-Android-tablets/?kc=rssJun 06 01:07
cubezzzwhat about before windows existed?Jun 06 01:07
TechrightsTitle: Android tablets available in three CPU flavors - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.46 KBJun 06 01:08
cubezzzit's not that old evenJun 06 01:08
Chips_B_MalroySo is MS trying to buy AOL now?  More of Ballmer running amok spending (wasting) the profits of M$ by tring to kill Google, which he will never do.Jun 06 01:09
DaemonFCGoogle owns some of AOLJun 06 01:09
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20006872-56.htmlJun 06 01:10
TechrightsTitle: Is AOL shopping itself to Microsoft? | Beyond Binary - CNET News .::. Size~: 101.66 KBJun 06 01:10
DaemonFCanyway, trying to kill Google with AOL is like going after the terminator with a squirt gunJun 06 01:10
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 01:10
DaemonFCit's even more pathetic than Bing, which they already haveJun 06 01:10
Chips_B_MalroyI have a question.  If Novell is sold, then the deal that was made with MS is gone?  So at that point, since only Novell was protected with the Mono/Moonlight, MS could sue?Jun 06 01:11
Chips_B_MalroyNo sure, but I think I would actually prefer AOL to Bing if I had to choice only between the two.Jun 06 01:12
Chips_B_MalroyThe deal between MS and Novell only had 2 years or less to go.  but if sold, maybe the deal ends.  Jun 06 01:15
Chips_B_Malroyat that point, effectively, MS could try to sue, as a patent troll?Jun 06 01:15
Chips_B_Malroyeven Suse would not be covered anymore by their agreementJun 06 01:16
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j__a-FBfYJrq0kEeCTKIoSzS5zegJun 06 01:18
TechrightsTitle: AFP: Microsoft sets up new research centre in Taiwan .::. Size~: 7.71 KBJun 06 01:18
Chips_B_MalroySo, lets say whta this new research center in the other China (Tiawan) really is.  Its outsourcing more jobs from the USA, where MS has been laying off workers, to a cheaper foriegn workforce.  Jun 06 01:20
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy, I'd rather see them go to Taiwan than the PRCJun 06 01:20
DaemonFCthere is that at leastJun 06 01:20
Chips_B_MalroyagreedJun 06 01:21
Chips_B_Malroybut the fact is, its still laying off here, and expanding overseas to cheap laborJun 06 01:22
Chips_B_MalroyBallmer may have given up some on the Red Chinese as MS just does not know how to make money there selling Windows.  Jun 06 01:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Engineers and other technicians' strange susceptibility to arrogant stupidity http://is.gd/cE7aw- http://is.gd/cE7bv-Jun 06 01:25
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Chips_B_MalroyNow this is funnyJun 06 01:26
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364667,00.asp  "Note: Much to my surprise, my Silverlight version went down, from 4.0.50541.0 to 4.0.50524.0, after I installed this update on a Vista system. I reported this to Microsoft through normal support channels and will report back with results"Jun 06 01:27
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy, workers in Taiwan are not exploited to near the degree as workers in the PRCJun 06 01:27
TechrightsTitle:         Microsoft Issues Silverlight Fix | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com     .::. Size~: 72.29 KBJun 06 01:27
DaemonFCthat's what I mean, there's that at leastJun 06 01:27
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DaemonFCplus, I'm not sure you want to farm out research to ChinaJun 06 01:28
DaemonFCnumber of reasonsJun 06 01:28
Chips_B_Malroy"<DaemonFC> Chips_B_Malroy, workers in Taiwan are not exploited to near the degree as workers in the PRC"  True, not my point.  My point is MS is still profitable, and still laying off US workers, but building and employing overseas with cheaper workforces, while asking and getting tax breaks here.Jun 06 01:29
DaemonFCone being that China is pretty lax on "intellectual property" lawsJun 06 01:29
DaemonFCso why would MS trust them with their research division?Jun 06 01:29
Chips_B_MalroyI am not promoting either ChinaJun 06 01:29
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy, John Romero has farmed everything out to ChinaJun 06 01:31
Chips_B_MalroyBallmer is sure unpopular in the comments these daysJun 06 01:31
DaemonFCbut then again, he did ruin Ion Storm by living like a rock star and not actually producing anythingJun 06 01:31
DaemonFCso we'll see how this goesJun 06 01:32
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/ray-ozzie-schools-steve-ballmer-on-stage-at-all-things-d-2010-6Jun 06 01:32
TechrightsTitle: Everything Wrong With The Steve Ballmer Era On Display At D8 .::. Size~: 177.64 KBJun 06 01:32
DaemonFCor wait, was that American McGee?Jun 06 01:32
DaemonFCI think it wasJun 06 01:32
DaemonFCoh wellJun 06 01:32
DaemonFChe's had precisely one noteworthy gameJun 06 01:32
DaemonFCAliceJun 06 01:32
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy, Make sure you have DirectX 8 and a Pentium 3 if you want to play his latest badass title B-)Jun 06 01:33
Chips_B_MalroyI will pass on that Jun 06 01:33
DaemonFCit works perfectly i nWineJun 06 01:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 01:33
Chips_B_Malroymay have had one of the early games of that seriesJun 06 01:34
Chips_B_MalroyI believe the negativitity of the Ballmer comments everywhere will now impact the stock price in a way that even Bill Gates and the Board may not be able to overlook indefinately.Jun 06 01:38
Chips_B_MalroyAs Roy has said before, Ballmer leaving as MS CEO, may not be the best thing for Linux.  Gates coming back, would be a nastier CEO.Jun 06 01:42
cubezzzhe knows his time is overJun 06 01:44
cubezzzjust like FordJun 06 01:44
Chips_B_Malroy"<cubezzz> he knows his time is over"  I think you are right.  Gates calls the shots at MS still, so its up to him when monky boy leaves.  Bet its before the end of this year.  Odd Ballmer and Ozzie doing a combined interview.Jun 06 01:47
Chips_B_MalroyIs Ozzie being preped to replace Ballmer?Jun 06 01:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Free to share Torrent download! - MIXTAPE #1: VODO'S FAVOURITE SHORT FILMS - http://vodo.net/mixtape1 - Great collection ! #free #torrentJun 06 01:51
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DaemonFCMicrosoft has been stagnate every year since Gates leftJun 06 01:51
DaemonFCGates used some brass knuckle tactics to build Microsoft, but he wasn't stupidJun 06 01:52
DaemonFCBallmer is just a bruteJun 06 01:52
Chips_B_MalroyMore MS failure, maybe more reason Bach had to go:  http://www.dailyhostednews.com/ps3-increases-global-marketshare-to-31-percent/03069   "The PlayStation 3 has jumped from an 18 percent market since last year at the same time, to a 31 percent share. Microsoft better watch out."Jun 06 01:52
TechrightsTitle: PS3 Increases Global Marketshare to 31 Percent » Daily Hosted News - Your daily news, hosted for you. .::. Size~: 14.9 KBJun 06 01:52
cubezzzfrom 1986 to 2000 it was party time for MicrosoftJun 06 01:52
cubezzzlook at the last 10 years.... mostly flatlinedJun 06 01:52
DaemonFCyeah, it could be again if they got rid of BallmerJun 06 01:53
cubezzzthe party is over....Jun 06 01:53
DaemonFCif Ballmer really does try to buy AOL, the shareholders should revoltJun 06 01:53
DaemonFCforce him outJun 06 01:53
DaemonFCcubezzz, What I find funny....Jun 06 01:54
Chips_B_MalroyXbox360 probably hurt MS more long term than even Vista did.  Buying a product with that big a failure rate, knowing that at some point the warrenty also runs out and you are stuck, has to make people made as hell.Jun 06 01:54
DaemonFCIE has like 50-ish percent still right?Jun 06 01:55
cubezzzit doesn't matter if they replace Ballmer, maybe it would improve Microsoft slightly but...Jun 06 01:55
DaemonFCand Bing is the default browser on every copyJun 06 01:55
Chips_B_Malroy*madJun 06 01:55
DaemonFCyet Bing has 9% of the search marketJun 06 01:55
cubezzzthey are ending the paid search tooJun 06 01:55
DaemonFCthat Bing Cashback thing is a scam anywayJun 06 01:55
DaemonFCit usualyl applies to stores that are not the lowest price anywayJun 06 01:56
DaemonFCand the cashback still makes the item more expensive than the cheapest storeJun 06 01:56
Chips_B_MalroyXbox360 is in trouble.  Bach head of that, was canned.Jun 06 01:56
cubezzzthat figures :)Jun 06 01:56
cubezzzthe only X I want is Xfree86Jun 06 01:56
Chips_B_MalroyNatal for Xbox360 will be stillbornJun 06 01:56
DaemonFCtheE76boxJun 06 01:57
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 01:57
Chips_B_Malroylol, I like thatJun 06 01:57
DaemonFCnow with 500% more "Contact Microsoft Support" goodnessJun 06 01:57
cubezzz53.26% says wikipediaJun 06 01:57
cubezzzfirefox is 31.60%Jun 06 01:57
Chips_B_Malroyonly true Sheepie run ExploderJun 06 01:58
WireWulf:PJun 06 01:58
WireWulfgoogle chromeJun 06 01:58
WireWulfbrbJun 06 01:58
cubezzzchrome is 8%Jun 06 01:59
Chips_B_Malroy“Our analysis shows that while Wii sales fell relative to Q109, its share in fact remained constant relative to Q409, “Principal Analyst behind the report, David Mercer said, “The main movement in Q1 2010 was the growing share for Sony’s PS3, at the expense of Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”Jun 06 01:59
DaemonFChttp://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/Screenshots%20Funstuff/nukeieani.gifJun 06 01:59
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DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 01:59
cubezzzmy point of view is different, but I don't want something I can't program or recompileJun 06 02:00
cubezzzis sheepie lower than sheeple? :)Jun 06 02:01
DaemonFChttp://www.digibarn.com/collections/screenshots/Screenshots%20Funstuff/Porn404.gifJun 06 02:01
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cubezzzNetscape April 1996 89.36%Jun 06 02:03
cubezzzI even sold Netscape 2.0Jun 06 02:03
cubezzzit was around $40Jun 06 02:04
WireWulfnetscape was the bestJun 06 02:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right I AM done for the night now..."Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast"Jun 06 02:04
WireWulfmozilla was at frist just a knock off of netscapeJun 06 02:04
Chips_B_Malroymore xbox360 failure in the making:  http://www.pcworld.com/article/197262/to_natal_or_not_to_natal_in_october_for_150.html  "Microsoft's Xbox 360 motion-control upgrade, Project Natal, will ship this October for a surprisingly steep $150. That's if you believe Edge, which claims a "trusted source" offered the tip that spawned the story that launched another speculative media pile-on. "Jun 06 02:06
TechrightsTitle: To Natal or Not to Natal in October for $150? - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.47 KBJun 06 02:06
DaemonFCI has in a closeout book store about 5-6 years agoJun 06 02:06
WireWulfsony's is only like $50Jun 06 02:06
DaemonFCsaw a boxed set of Netscape Navigator 3 Gold EditionJun 06 02:06
Chips_B_Malroy"<WireWulf> sony's is only like $50"  exactly the pointJun 06 02:09
DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20006893-83.htmlJun 06 02:09
TechrightsTitle: Adobe reports 'critical' flaw in Flash, Acrobat | Security - CNET News .::. Size~: 158.11 KBJun 06 02:09
WireWulfWii's are lik $45 and thats for the plus versionsJun 06 02:10
Chips_B_Malroymaybe they will drop the price down like best buy did with the Kin, when it does not sell?Jun 06 02:11
WireWulfxbox will be easier to hack in a few monthsJun 06 02:11
WireWulf*xbox360Jun 06 02:12
WireWulfwhich will drive up sell like it did with the fristJun 06 02:12
Chips_B_MalroyWonder how many repeat custormers M$ get from the Xbox360 sales after they have had to return a few of them?Jun 06 02:12
WireWulfi got my xbox360's free Jun 06 02:13
WireWulffrist one i wonJun 06 02:13
Chips_B_Malroyyou paid too muchJun 06 02:13
WireWulf2nd one was sent aas a replacementJun 06 02:14
WireWulfand i have still paid nothing :)Jun 06 02:14
Chips_B_Malroystill too muchJun 06 02:14
Chips_B_Malroydid it scratch any of your game disks?  or yours did not have that problemJun 06 02:15
DaemonFChttp://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2010/06/microsofts_ray.html;jsessionid=2IRX4UJLWNZ0LQE1GHRSKHWATMY32JVNJun 06 02:15
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft's Ray Ozzie Says PC Is Razor, Services Are Blades - Global CIO Blog - InformationWeek .::. Size~: 49.01 KBJun 06 02:15
DaemonFCwith MS anywayJun 06 02:15
Chips_B_Malroyyou buy enough game disks, and your console fails, you are sort of locked in, you have to buy a console Jun 06 02:17
WireWulfmine have been good so farJun 06 02:17
Chips_B_Malroyonce you get out of the warrenty period that isJun 06 02:17
WireWulfwell heres the thing Jun 06 02:17
WireWulfthere is legal preident to sue M$ for a product failing of crappy builds and stuffJun 06 02:18
WireWulfthat was why xbox360 was quickly replaced with xbox360 eliteJun 06 02:18
WireWulfand my warrently has crovered my xbox360 for like awail nowJun 06 02:19
DaemonFCthey don't last as long as the warrantyJun 06 02:20
DaemonFCand the warranty resets every time you get a new oneJun 06 02:20
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 02:20
Chips_B_Malroy3 years on the warrenty for RROD/E74 only.  You said one replacement so far.  How long you still have on the warrenty?Jun 06 02:20
WireWulf;)Jun 06 02:21
WireWulfChips_B_Malroy: consitttering i could just go to best buy with it and trade it out anytime i want :PJun 06 02:21
MinceRgnJun 06 02:22
Chips_B_Malroyat some point MS will try to cut cost on the xbox360 replacementsJun 06 02:22
WireWulfsome pointJun 06 02:23
WireWulfthey will indeedJun 06 02:23
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/05/27/xbox_360_project_natal_to_cost_150  "Rival Sony is releasing its PlayStation Move motion control system later this year, bundled with a game, for $100 USD.  Perhaps more notably, Natal (which will be given its official name in June at the E3 event) will cost just $30 less than the Nintendo Wii, which has motion control out of the box and a huge catalog of games. "Jun 06 02:28
TechrightsTitle: Xbox 360 Project Natal to cost $150? - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 55.26 KBJun 06 02:28
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.mcvuk.com/news/39287/MS-rebuts-South-African-Xbox-claimsJun 06 02:35
TechrightsTitle: MS rebuts South African Xbox claims | Games Industry | MCV .::. Size~: 48.72 KBJun 06 02:35
WireWulfXbox will end up being the only game system you can have thoJun 06 02:35
WireWulfjust watchJun 06 02:36
WireWulfM$ will fail and the USA will bail them outJun 06 02:36
cubezzzblahJun 06 02:36
cubezzzthat wouldn't be good eitherJun 06 02:36
WireWulf13+ trillion in debt here (no it wouldnt)Jun 06 02:37
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://gamer.blorge.com/2010/06/01/ex-apple-exec-criticizes-ballmer-over-xbox-360-high-failure-rate-microsoft-becoming-irrelevant/  "In a surprising move, a former Apple exec heavily criticized Microsoft’s CEO Steve Ballmer over his conduct with Vista and the Xbox 360’s high failure rate issue. The former exec accused Ballmer of letting his “underlings” take the fall while he remains unapologetic.  Former ApJun 06 02:38
TechrightsTitle: Ex-Apple exec criticizes Ballmer over Xbox 360 high failure rate &ndash; Microsoft becoming irrelevant? - GAMER.BLORGE .::. Size~: 115.29 KBJun 06 02:38
WireWulfM$ dies tho no more fable :(Jun 06 02:39
*WireWulf likes fable Jun 06 02:39
WireWulfno clue whyJun 06 02:39
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/06/three_consoles_later_hard-luck_xbox_360_user_seeks_solace_in_court.html   "The suit (PDF, 8 pages) alleges that McKinney's problems began shortly after he received an Xbox 360 in December 2006. The console failed soon thereafter. It was still under warranty at that point, so it was replaced for free -- but that replacement console failed following the expiration of Microsoft'Jun 06 02:44
TechrightsTitle: Three consoles later, hard-luck Xbox user seeks solace in court .::. Size~: 55.33 KBJun 06 02:44
Chips_B_MalroyconsoleJun 06 02:44
Chips_B_Malroybut the suit says that console failed, as well, after the additional one-year warranty expired -- requiring another $100 repair.  If you're keeping score at home, that would be three broken consoles. The suit doesn't say whether McKinney went ahead and paid for a fourth repair. (Update: As noted by Robin in the comments below, the timeline cited in the suit doesn't seem to add up. Microsoft's lawyers will no doubt hJun 06 02:45
Chips_B_MalroyTodd Bishop, MS fanboiJun 06 02:45
Chips_B_Malroy"An unknown Microsoft customer service representative stated to Plaintiff that this one hundred dollar payment would include a new one year warranty and that the Xbox was just a machine and Plaintiff should expect it to fail," the suit says. "To date, Plaintiff has expended thousands of dollars on Xbox hardware repairs, video games, memberships, videos, and downloadable content which cannot be utilized due to MicrosJun 06 02:46
cubezzzduh, time to stop buying xbox I thinkJun 06 02:48
cubezzzsounds like a total lemonJun 06 02:48
Chips_B_Malroyit isJun 06 02:48
Diablo-D3wellJun 06 03:16
Diablo-D3this is why I dont believe in consolesJun 06 03:16
Diablo-D3at least on windows, games work on ANY windows machineJun 06 03:16
Diablo-D3thats about the only thing windows has going for itJun 06 03:17
Diablo-D3it really _is_ everywhereJun 06 03:17
Diablo-D3and everything imaginable is available for itJun 06 03:17
Diablo-D3Im not saying this against just the xboxJun 06 03:18
Diablo-D3but the ps3 and wii both can potentially fail in the same wayJun 06 03:18
Diablo-D3although current gen ps3s have pretty low failure rates, and wiis never failed beyond what was expectedJun 06 03:18
Diablo-D3(ie, wiis really dont fail)Jun 06 03:19
cubezzzyeah I know it's a pain, I'm looking for an eprom programmerJun 06 03:19
cubezzzall doze compatibleJun 06 03:19
Diablo-D3cubezzz: if its usb, thats not a big issueJun 06 03:19
Diablo-D3just throw windows in virtualbox, and tell vbox to pass the usb throughJun 06 03:20
cubezzzah, I'm just yipping, I have one laptop with dozeJun 06 03:20
cubezzzstill, it's irksomeJun 06 03:20
Diablo-D3yeah, even when linux is on every machine, you're going to need legacy installs of shitJun 06 03:20
Diablo-D3its how computing worksJun 06 03:20
Diablo-D3having a legacy install of windows in a vm somewhere is pretty much the correct way forwards Jun 06 03:21
Diablo-D3unless you need very specific hardwareJun 06 03:21
Diablo-D3then go ebay divingJun 06 03:21
Diablo-D3like, a friend of mine has an old pentium machineJun 06 03:22
Diablo-D3he keeps it around for dos gaming when dosbox failsJun 06 03:22
cubezzzyeah my card can't do the old 320x200 modeJun 06 03:22
cubezzzso there's a blank space at the bottom of the screenJun 06 03:22
Diablo-D3hehJun 06 03:22
Diablo-D3320x200 is fuckedJun 06 03:22
Diablo-D3its not 1:1 pixels Jun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3a lot of modern monitors display it as 320x200Jun 06 03:23
cubezzzit was part of the VGA standard though?Jun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3instead of stretching it to 4:3Jun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3yeah, so?Jun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3monitors are dumbJun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3they expect 1:1 sizesJun 06 03:23
cubezzzwell is there a LCD that can do 320x200?Jun 06 03:23
cubezzzjust wonderingJun 06 03:23
Diablo-D3well they can do "anything"Jun 06 03:24
Diablo-D3they just show the wrong aspect ratioJun 06 03:24
Diablo-D3btw, 320x200 is supposed to be displayed as 4:3Jun 06 03:24
Diablo-D3ie, 320x240Jun 06 03:24
Diablo-D3cubezzz: btwJun 06 03:24
Diablo-D3most cards are NOT vga compatible in the true senseJun 06 03:24
cubezzzthere's just Lands of Lore, I still play it, I think it's 320x200Jun 06 03:25
cubezzzstill fun to playJun 06 03:25
Diablo-D3they do a subset of vga and vesaJun 06 03:25
Diablo-D3they dont do the real weird trippy shit that demosceners used and shitJun 06 03:25
Diablo-D3its _just_ enough to do what the bios asks and what windows startup screens askJun 06 03:25
cubezzzwell 320x200 is pretty close to 320x240, I doubt it's a noticeable differenceJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3stuff looks fatter if 320x200 is not displayed as 4:3Jun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3a lot of early games breakJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3well, not "break"Jun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3it still displays fineJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3its just too fatJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3most monitors can set custom scaling modesJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3as in, you tell it what to doJun 06 03:26
Diablo-D3well, maybe not "most" but many doJun 06 03:27
Diablo-D3another one is 1280x1024Jun 06 03:27
Diablo-D3its a 5:4 mode that should be displayed as 5:4, but a lot display it as 4:3Jun 06 03:27
Diablo-D3so stuff gets skinnierJun 06 03:27
cubezzzmaybe I could just stretch the screen to make the black space disappear with the OSDJun 06 03:27
Diablo-D3cubezzz: this is what Im sayingJun 06 03:28
Diablo-D3you can set it to custom settingsJun 06 03:28
cubezzzrightJun 06 03:28
cubezzznope, can't do itJun 06 03:29
cubezzzthere's no stretch, just hort and vert positioningJun 06 03:29
cubezzzbahJun 06 03:30
Chips_B_Malroywith kde and gnome you should  be able to resize by dragging a windowJun 06 03:31
Chips_B_Malroyfor dosboxJun 06 03:31
cubezzzI'll try itJun 06 03:31
Chips_B_Malroywon't work of course for fullsizeJun 06 03:31
cubezzzI may have to set up parallel network Jun 06 03:32
cubezzzthen use the clunker to run freedosJun 06 03:32
cubezzzemulation is never as good as the real thingJun 06 03:33
Chips_B_Malroyclunker is a front end?Jun 06 03:35
Chips_B_Malroydosbox is very goodJun 06 03:35
cubezzzDiablo-D3, you ever try PLIP? :)Jun 06 03:35
cubezzzno, clunker is this heavy 486 I gotJun 06 03:35
Chips_B_Malroya musium pieceJun 06 03:35
cubezzzah, not to meJun 06 03:35
DaemonFCThere's a way to run the XP Mode deal on Windows 7 HomeJun 06 03:36
DaemonFC:PJun 06 03:36
DaemonFChehJun 06 03:36
cubezzzmy intel 8085 board is the museum pieceJun 06 03:36
cubezzz1983 Jun 06 03:36
cubezzzit would be nice to get some use out of the 486 thoughJun 06 03:38
Diablo-D3[10:31:01] <cubezzz> Diablo-D3, you ever try PLIP? :)Jun 06 03:38
Diablo-D3old school is oldJun 06 03:38
cubezzzwhen I put basic linux on the 486 I had a hard time finding 3.5 disks that still workedJun 06 03:40
Diablo-D3haaahahahaJun 06 03:40
cubezzzlike two out of 30 still workedJun 06 03:41
Chips_B_Malroyyou need an ls120 drive to read themJun 06 03:42
cubezzzthe drive still worked thoughJun 06 03:42
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cubezzz17 years old tooJun 06 03:42
Chips_B_MalroyLS120 drive will often read weak floppy disks where a regular floppy drive will failJun 06 03:43
cubezzzah, interestingJun 06 03:43
DaemonFCthey still make 3.5" floppiesJun 06 03:43
cubezzzit's a bad format for archiving stuffJun 06 03:43
cubezzzdoes NOT stand the test of timeJun 06 03:43
Chips_B_Malroysome of those floppies were very protected and could not be archived easilyJun 06 03:44
cubezzzyou know, when CD-recordable drives first came out they had this toshiba drive that used caddiesJun 06 03:44
cubezzzseemed like a really good ideaJun 06 03:45
DaemonFCCDs eventually go badJun 06 03:45
DaemonFCso does any optical discJun 06 03:45
cubezzzthe CDR stayed in the caddy all the time thenJun 06 03:45
DaemonFCPeople labeling them with a permanent marker accelerates the decayJun 06 03:45
cubezzzCDR lasts longer than 3.5 disks Jun 06 03:46
cubezzzoptical over magnetic for longevityJun 06 03:46
Chips_B_Malroyfloppies became too small, the same with zip drives and LS120.  At Least LS120 I keep for legacy reasons.Jun 06 03:46
Chips_B_MalroyAt some future point, maybe Blu-ray will come down in price and replace the dvd as a backup data mediumJun 06 03:47
cubezzzyeah then we'll have Fedora on blurayJun 06 03:48
Chips_B_Malroycould care less about blu-ray as a movie mediumJun 06 03:48
Chips_B_MalroyNeroLinux already supports burning blu-rayJun 06 03:48
WireWulfFEDORA blu-rayJun 06 03:56
WireWulf25GB of crappJun 06 03:56
DaemonFCyeah, remember when DVD was new?Jun 06 03:58
DaemonFC1 blank DVD cost $25Jun 06 03:59
DaemonFCyes, they came in 1-packsJun 06 03:59
DaemonFCand cost $25Jun 06 03:59
DaemonFCat WalmartJun 06 03:59
DaemonFCaround 1998Jun 06 03:59
DaemonFCeventually we're going to have 100 count spindles of BD-Rs for $20Jun 06 04:00
DaemonFCit will happenJun 06 04:00
DaemonFC"Hand me another BD, I needd to burn every Linux distribution there is"Jun 06 04:01
DaemonFC"Hand me another one so I can burn all the MP3's I've collected over the last 20 years"Jun 06 04:02
DaemonFC"Damn it, no what am I going to do with the other 98?"Jun 06 04:02
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WireWulfburn HD movies?Jun 06 04:04
WireWulfand illegal ps3 rips?Jun 06 04:04
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DaemonFCshhhhhJun 06 04:04
DaemonFCheheheJun 06 04:04
WireWulfrecord the world longest porno?Jun 06 04:05
DaemonFCDebbie Does Half the Countries in the WorldJun 06 04:05
DaemonFCfollowed by the second disc for the other halfJun 06 04:05
DaemonFCor maybe flip to side BJun 06 04:06
WireWulfdual layerJun 06 04:06
WireWulfin HDJun 06 04:06
DaemonFCnah, you could cram it all on a DVD if you just had a big orgy with everyone in the world participating at onceJun 06 04:06
DaemonFCtime compress itJun 06 04:06
DaemonFCand use h.264Jun 06 04:06
DaemonFC:PJun 06 04:06
scientestopic peopleJun 06 04:07
WireWulfsomething for those illegamimet kids to remember huh?Jun 06 04:07
DaemonFCyepJun 06 04:07
DaemonFCthat crazy day when everyone in the world needed money for crack at onceJun 06 04:07
DaemonFC:PJun 06 04:07
WireWulf"but mommie i dont wanna be in the worl orgy" "tuff your part of the world now drop em"Jun 06 04:08
DaemonFCCapture life in all it's detail, only on Blu-Ray.(R)Jun 06 04:08
DaemonFCok, too farJun 06 04:08
WireWulfDaemonFC: it would happen and you know itJun 06 04:09
DaemonFCmass stupidity you can believe inJun 06 04:09
DaemonFCMass hysteria you are sure ofJun 06 04:09
DaemonFCwelcome to EarthJun 06 04:09
WireWulfhumanity isnt massivily stupid?Jun 06 04:10
DaemonFCor are we?Jun 06 04:10
WireWulfpretty muchJun 06 04:10
DaemonFCwe kill each other for oil and buy AAC files from iTunesJun 06 04:10
DaemonFCnuff saidJun 06 04:10
DaemonFCI think Ripley said it best in AliensJun 06 04:12
DaemonFC"I don't know which of us is worse, Burke. You don't see those things killing each other over a god damned profit margin!"Jun 06 04:13
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 04:13
DaemonFCtornado watchJun 06 04:14
*WireWulf places DaemonFC in the siranJun 06 04:15
DaemonFCI hope it lands on the mayor's houseJun 06 04:15
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DaemonFChmmm, I don't really have anywhere to goJun 06 04:16
DaemonFCI guess hide in the closet Jun 06 04:16
Chips_B_Malroy"<DaemonFC> "Hand me another one so I can burn all the MP3's I've collected over the last 20 years" [19:58] <DaemonFC> "Damn it, no what am I going to do with the other 98?""  Thats easy, burn a backup of windows 11 on it, its will need all 98 disks, as it will be bloated by thenJun 06 04:18
DaemonFCplease insert blu ray marked "Internet Explorer and press any key"Jun 06 04:19
DaemonFC:PJun 06 04:19
Chips_B_Malroy"the most secure browser ever"  ?Jun 06 04:20
DaemonFCyes, that would be the oneJun 06 04:20
Chips_B_Malroyhow did I knowJun 06 04:20
DaemonFCat elast IE users are good for somethingJun 06 04:20
DaemonFCthey draw all the enemy fireJun 06 04:20
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 04:20
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WireWulfblu-rayJun 06 04:21
WireWulfit is good for porn tooJun 06 04:21
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.itworldcanada.com/news/how-apple-topped-microsoft/140821  "In the past decade, Microsoft has acquired nearly 10 times as many companies as Apple, and spent nearly nine times as many dollars on research and development."Jun 06 04:22
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Chips_B_Malroyor maybe they just claimed to spend that amount, and it actually lined someones pocket?Jun 06 04:23
Chips_B_Malroythey sure did not get much in return for spending that muchJun 06 04:23
DaemonFC Microsoft Internet Explorer 8.x (Assessment: Not secure for browsing, at least 4 critical attack vectors exist when using this browser)Jun 06 04:26
DaemonFC-Secunia system analyzer says thatJun 06 04:26
DaemonFChahaJun 06 04:26
DaemonFChttp://secunia.com/advisories/product/11/Jun 06 04:30
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DaemonFCover 9 years old and still not safe to useJun 06 04:30
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DaemonFChttp://secunia.com/advisories/39577/Jun 06 04:38
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DaemonFCThe vendor recommends disabling the Windows Aero Theme.Jun 06 04:38
DaemonFCHAHAHAHA!!!!Jun 06 04:38
Chips_B_Malroy<DaemonFC> The vendor recommends disabling the Windows Aero Theme."  Why not just disable Winders, and install GNU/Linux?Jun 06 04:47
Chips_B_Malroyoh wait, canonical, I seeJun 06 04:48
DaemonFChuh?Jun 06 04:49
DaemonFCsomeone needs to smack the programmers that put in those "Are you sure?...Are you really sure???" dialogs over the dumbest shitJun 06 05:01
DaemonFChttp://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177570Jun 06 05:05
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DaemonFCWithout gunning down the crew?Jun 06 05:06
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DaemonFC"And now an inside look into Dr. Who, powered by Windows 7"Jun 06 05:27
DaemonFC"Powerful, simple, Windows 7"Jun 06 05:28
DaemonFC:PJun 06 05:28
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schestowitz[01:55] <DaemonFC> yet Bing has 9% of the search marketJun 06 06:11
schestowitzNo, it doesn'tJun 06 06:11
schestowitzUS is not the whole worldJun 06 06:11
DaemonFCwell, I noticed in "less developed countries", IE is actually used far moreJun 06 06:12
ender2070it also doesnt count when your isp hijacks typos and sends you to bingJun 06 06:12
DaemonFCso that would probably help Bing's worldwide statsJun 06 06:12
schestowitz[01:59] <cubezzz> chrome is 8%Jun 06 06:12
ender2070ie, Rogers CommunicationsJun 06 06:12
schestowitzMicrosoft-funded US-oriented 'Net apps' is not a valid source Jun 06 06:12
DaemonFCender2070, 127.0.0.1 bing.comJun 06 06:13
DaemonFCor put in Google's IP addressJun 06 06:13
DaemonFClet the search hijack land you on GoogleJun 06 06:13
ender2070lolJun 06 06:14
ender2070thats not the pointJun 06 06:14
ender2070people are being sent to bing against their will by canada's second option for high speed internetJun 06 06:14
DaemonFCThey're number 2 and boy does it show!Jun 06 06:16
DaemonFC:PJun 06 06:16
ender2070i wouldnt say thatJun 06 06:16
ender2070they own the cable internet marketJun 06 06:16
ender2070bell owns the dsl internet marketJun 06 06:16
ender2070everyone on dsl is on bells networkJun 06 06:17
DaemonFCThe Canadian Comcast and AT&TJun 06 06:17
DaemonFCyayJun 06 06:17
ender2070yeah pretty muchJun 06 06:17
ender2070except thats pretty much all we haveJun 06 06:17
DaemonFCyour government gives protected monopolies to the highest briber too I seeJun 06 06:17
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 06:17
ender2070yes it doesJun 06 06:17
DaemonFC"We need to crush everyone else to be profitable. If we were to compete, we might have to have better service at a lower price. The horror! Here's a little cabbage for your re-election fund..."Jun 06 06:19
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 06:19
ender2070tax payers helped build bells network tooJun 06 06:19
ender2070now they are trying to get out of all the rules put on them for accepting the moneyJun 06 06:19
ender2070trying to get third parties to pay moreJun 06 06:19
ender2070throttling third partiesJun 06 06:20
DaemonFCTranslation: Bribed politicians put the rules in place to make it look like it's not corporate welfare.Jun 06 06:20
DaemonFCAfter the system is in place and nobody is looking, they remove the rules.Jun 06 06:20
ender2070its like the toll highways hereJun 06 06:21
ender2070we paid to get all these highways built and the government privatized them to a foreign company for peanuts and they charge tolls to use itJun 06 06:21
DaemonFCender2070, Indiana toll roadJun 06 06:21
DaemonFCour wonderful criminal governor leased it for 99 years to a foreign companyJun 06 06:21
ender2070i wouldnt mind so much if the local governments made the money off of itJun 06 06:21
ender2070i found out its some company in spainJun 06 06:21
DaemonFCwe didn't make money off itJun 06 06:22
DaemonFCwe mortgaged itJun 06 06:22
DaemonFCthere's a differenceJun 06 06:22
ender2070hehJun 06 06:22
DaemonFC"Yay, now I have a few billion dollars to burn and they get to make 10 times that before they have to give it back"Jun 06 06:22
DaemonFC"Don't worry, I'll be long gone by the time this falls apart on you idiots."Jun 06 06:22
DaemonFCthe business wouldn't be interested in privatizing state assets to run at a lossJun 06 06:23
DaemonFCthey must have figured they'd recoup the lease money and turn a profit within a few yearsJun 06 06:24
DaemonFCan investmentJun 06 06:24
DaemonFCrunning things at a loss is the state's jobJun 06 06:24
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 06:24
ender2070we keep getting stupid polititians who want to privitize the lcboJun 06 06:26
DaemonFCiriver's site is pure crapJun 06 06:27
ender2070its the worlds most profitable liquor storeJun 06 06:27
ender2070government run by ontarioJun 06 06:27
DaemonFCthey want to pawn the liquor store?Jun 06 06:28
DaemonFCthat's real ghettoJun 06 06:28
ender2070yeahJun 06 06:28
DaemonFC:DJun 06 06:28
ender2070its a *huge* money makerJun 06 06:28
ender2070if they sold it they would have to raise taxesJun 06 06:28
DaemonFCno, they pawn itJun 06 06:29
DaemonFCthen they lower taxesJun 06 06:29
DaemonFCpeople think it's good governmentJun 06 06:30
DaemonFCassholes get re-electedJun 06 06:30
DaemonFCgo find something else to destroyJun 06 06:30
DaemonFCyears later, when they're out of office and wealthy from the bribes, system falls apart, government needs money, taxes go upJun 06 06:30
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 06:30
DaemonFCit's someone else's problemJun 06 06:30
schestowitzThat's their business modelJun 06 06:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Devices Running #Linux , Now With Some #SAP Support http://ur1.ca/05qgo http://ur1.ca/05qgq http://ur1.ca/05qgs http://ur1.ca/05qgtJun 06 06:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #eReaders Run #Linux , Including New Ones From #Asus http://ur1.ca/05qgp http://ur1.ca/05qgr http://ur1.ca/05qguJun 06 06:36
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DaemonFCAudio Formats  MP3/WMA/WMA with DRMJun 06 06:38
DaemonFCjoyJun 06 06:38
DaemonFC:PJun 06 06:38
DaemonFCI didn't know RCA still did MP3 playersJun 06 06:38
DaemonFCWMA with DRMJun 06 06:42
DaemonFCwoudl that be FailsForSure?Jun 06 06:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz, If I got a Zune HD, I'd get 4 HD radio stations. two talk radio, one jazz, one classical musicJun 06 06:50
DaemonFCthat's quite hip and worth the extra $100Jun 06 06:50
DaemonFCwouldn't you agree?Jun 06 06:50
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schestowitz"PJ: Check out footnote 163, which links to a slide presentation[PDF], and turn to slide 23. The presentation is about government use of social media and other ways to be more connected to the public. And the slide is about licensing, specifically the BSD and GPLv3, if you can believe it, and the BSD, Public Domain line says: "your tax dollars at work", and the GPLv3 line says, "share and share a-like - no privatization of public Jun 06 07:02
schestowitzspace""Jun 06 07:02
schestowitzhttp://www.ipwatchdog.com/2010/05/28/patent-attorney-arrested-for-threatening-president-obama/id=10784/Jun 06 07:04
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schestowitzHmm...Jun 06 07:08
schestowitzGroklaw promotes Apple againJun 06 07:08
schestowitz"One thing for sure about Matt Szulik. If he tells you something, you can take it to the bank. He is a family man, with many family responsibilities, and the heart to fulfill them. So, without any inside info on the decision, I take him at his word, and I know you join me is wishing him the very best."Jun 06 07:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Detailed Look at the #Linux -based #Kno http://ur1.ca/05qnr http://ur1.ca/05qnt http://ur1.ca/05qnxJun 06 07:19
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schestowitz"The current project, also supported by Microsoft, will create a multi-media “head” attachment called the “survivor buddy” that can fit on any traditional robot and serve as the interface between trapped victims and the rest of the world for the ten or more hours it might take to extract them. "Jun 06 07:26
schestowitzhttp://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/06/02/new-in-rescue-robots-survivor-buddy.htmlJun 06 07:26
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schestowitzkiller robot?Jun 06 07:27
schestowitz[bugs]Jun 06 07:27
schestowitzhttp://attepicfail.tumblr.com/post/657942563/update-chopped-a-few-seconds-off-the-audio-fileJun 06 07:28
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/06/dolphins_can_us.phpJun 06 07:42
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GnuWulfanyone still awake?Jun 06 07:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Sunday morning, up and ready to go. Where to first?Jun 06 07:44
schestowitzRandi is brilliant. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/06/06/james-randi/Jun 06 07:52
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schestowitzGnuWulf: yeahJun 06 07:52
GnuWulfschestowitz: i am about pissed atmJun 06 07:53
GnuWulfam so sick of everyone demonizing everything as part of the nwoJun 06 07:54
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64R63P20100528Jun 06 07:55
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schestowitzGnuWulf: elaborateJun 06 07:56
GnuWulffreemasons being the ones controlling the nwoJun 06 07:56
GnuWulfamerica military being the reason the world is fuckedJun 06 07:56
GnuWulfetxc etcJun 06 07:57
GnuWulfthings i hear everytime i log in to any irc neworkJun 06 07:57
GnuWulfschestowitz: basicly ppl looking for an answer that is no going to belame themselfs for the way the world is goingJun 06 07:59
GnuWulfas i am military i am always the bad guy Jun 06 08:00
GnuWulfnever a heroJun 06 08:00
GnuWulfnever a good huyJun 06 08:00
GnuWulfeven tho i am a ncpJun 06 08:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Well your avd may become a joke in future - Ex http://bit.ly/9jYdA5 10MB harddisk at $3398 only (more storage) #lolJun 06 08:07
GnuWulfschestowitz: ^ sorry it went on like that ,but i really feel as tho ppl have lost their right minds Jun 06 08:08
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ender2070dudeJun 06 08:17
ender2070stop furthering the un agendaJun 06 08:17
ender2070http://xkcd.com/743/Jun 06 08:23
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schestowitzGnuWulf: some of it is far fetchedJun 06 08:42
schestowitzLike "freemasons being the ones controlling the nwo"Jun 06 08:42
schestowitzBut the US has huge debt and wants to keep its powerJun 06 08:42
GnuWulftrueJun 06 08:42
schestowitzIt's ending, I thinkJun 06 08:42
schestowitzMaybe not in 2-5 yearsJun 06 08:43
GnuWulfi love the story of how china owns the USJun 06 08:43
schestowitzMaybe 10Jun 06 08:43
schestowitzGnuWulf: yes, that tooJun 06 08:43
GnuWulfyeah i am in total agreement that the US is at it end (unless we can fixx things again)Jun 06 08:43
schestowitz*LOL* http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37490758/ns/business/Jun 06 08:50
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schestowitzWhat's the point?Jun 06 08:50
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schestowitzGnuWulf: you try now by bringing China's population overJun 06 08:50
schestowitzBecuase they are well educatedJun 06 08:50
schestowitzAnd disciplined to have skillsJun 06 08:50
scienteslol schestowitz Jun 06 08:50
DaemonFCthats why they work for 20 cents an hourJun 06 08:50
ender2070and communistJun 06 08:50
scientesits the same shit they had ten years agoJun 06 08:51
DaemonFCI had wondered about thatJun 06 08:51
ender2070so they vote liberalJun 06 08:51
ender2070lolJun 06 08:51
scienteswith the little switcher, but now brandedJun 06 08:51
DaemonFCapparently I'm not smart enough to want to do thatJun 06 08:51
MurlocHi people!Jun 06 08:51
DaemonFCand that's what's killing usJun 06 08:51
DaemonFCoh wellJun 06 08:51
scientesserious i remember ten years ago there was like 15 channels and a little analogue switcherJun 06 08:51
schestowitzIt's a big countryJun 06 08:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: 4 times your sizeJun 06 08:51
DaemonFCof courseJun 06 08:51
schestowitzYou assume everyone there works in FoxconnJun 06 08:52
DaemonFCand most of the people live in povertyJun 06 08:52
scienteson one of the old-school airlines such as united or alaskaJun 06 08:52
schestowitzThey have more Internet users than in the USJun 06 08:52
DaemonFCwhile a few people are obscenely richJun 06 08:52
schestowitzAnd...Jun 06 08:52
DaemonFCif you count internet cafes maybeJun 06 08:52
schestowitzMicrosoft's profit from there is just 1%!!!!!!!Jun 06 08:52
DaemonFCand it's not the internetJun 06 08:52
scientesDaemonFC has issuesJun 06 08:52
DaemonFCit's what's left of it after their firewall chews it upJun 06 08:52
schestowitza fifth of the world's population pays a hundredth of Microsoft's billJun 06 08:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: you believe everything you readJun 06 08:53
schestowitzProbably also about Korea and IranJun 06 08:53
schestowitzNorth Korea didn't even do much until recently when it sank a ship with a submarineJun 06 08:53
DaemonFCyeah, ipod cityJun 06 08:53
schestowitzTHe US has strategic daemonisationJun 06 08:53
MurlocTrue.Jun 06 08:54
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364641,00.aspJun 06 08:54
DaemonFCChina is much like the US circa 1920Jun 06 08:54
TechrightsTitle:         Microsoft's Zune to Provide In-Flight Tunes for United | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com     .::. Size~: 71.9 KBJun 06 08:54
schestowitzZUNNNNNNNNNNNNNE :-DJun 06 08:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, I was at Walmart just a bit agoJun 06 08:54
DaemonFCand they have one Zune model left on the shelfJun 06 08:54
DaemonFCthe 16 GB Zune HDJun 06 08:54
schestowitz[08:54] <DaemonFC> China is much like the US circa 1920Jun 06 08:54
schestowitzSure.Jun 06 08:54
schestowitzhttp://www.allbestwallpapers.com/wallpaper/travel/image/city_of_life,_hong_kong,_china.jpgJun 06 08:54
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GnuWulfchina is more like soviat russa 20x worseJun 06 08:56
schestowitzSource?Jun 06 08:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/821/12835151.pngJun 06 08:57
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DaemonFCI'm ChineseJun 06 08:57
GnuWulfschestowitz: personal feelin on opressin a majority to please the fewJun 06 08:57
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 08:57
schestowitzGnuWulf: ok, so stop supporting them by borrowing trillions from themJun 06 08:57
schestowitzBTWJun 06 08:57
schestowitzRobery Gates just got dissed by ChinaJun 06 08:57
schestowitzThere are many reports about itJun 06 08:58
schestowitz*rtJun 06 08:58
DaemonFCyou know you like the fat manJun 06 08:58
DaemonFChe keeps you entertainedJun 06 08:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's a screenshot of an ugly desktopJun 06 08:58
DaemonFCthe greasy fat pig who sweats profuselyJun 06 08:58
schestowitzGet something good like KDE 4.4Jun 06 08:58
ender2070:)Jun 06 08:59
GnuWulfschestowitz: i didnt borrow any money from chinaJun 06 08:59
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MurlocThe one who designed the Windows NT architecture knew that after some time system starts to behave weird.Jun 06 08:59
DaemonFCGnuWulf, I was smart about how I borrowed money from ChinaJun 06 08:59
oiaohmDo you have a credit card?  GnuWulfJun 06 09:00
DaemonFCfirst I borrowed imaginary money, right?Jun 06 09:00
GnuWulfoiaohm: nopeJun 06 09:00
oiaohmIf so yes you did.  GnuWulfJun 06 09:00
DaemonFCthen I paid them back with it to send me real stuffJun 06 09:00
oiaohmOk a rare one GnuWulfJun 06 09:00
DaemonFCthen I didn't pay back the loanJun 06 09:00
DaemonFCsuckersJun 06 09:00
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 09:00
Murlocmmm Workstation :D http://www.novelquest.com/emperor_200.htmlJun 06 09:00
TechrightsTitle: NovelQuest | Emperor 200 .::. Size~: 12.86 KBJun 06 09:00
GnuWulfi buy what i buy with my own moneyJun 06 09:00
oiaohmMost people have some form of loan.Jun 06 09:00
GnuWulfnot creditJun 06 09:00
oiaohmThat has to be underwriten by someone.Jun 06 09:00
oiaohmAnd china is currently the largest under writer.Jun 06 09:01
GnuWulfi have both my cars paid offJun 06 09:01
GnuWulflarest *known* underwriterJun 06 09:01
DaemonFCgod damn itJun 06 09:01
DaemonFCI always forget to press Push To BrewJun 06 09:01
DaemonFCand then wonder why I have no coffeeJun 06 09:01
DaemonFCwho thought of that button?Jun 06 09:02
DaemonFCgrrrJun 06 09:02
*GnuWulf didJun 06 09:02
*DaemonFC kills GnuWulf in the most horrible way possible then leaves the mess for crime scene cleanupJun 06 09:02
DaemonFCshould have told me after I had my coffeeJun 06 09:02
DaemonFC:DJun 06 09:03
DaemonFCactually, I'm glad I went and got groceries when I did, coffee at the gas station is expensive :PJun 06 09:03
DaemonFCand they don't have the kind I likeJun 06 09:03
GnuWulf:(Jun 06 09:04
DaemonFCColombian :)Jun 06 09:05
GnuWulfi dont drink coffeeJun 06 09:05
GnuWulfi drink ligurJun 06 09:05
DaemonFCtastes richerJun 06 09:05
DaemonFCdrink what?Jun 06 09:06
GnuWulfbottle of vodka in the morningJun 06 09:06
GnuWulfkills the hangoversJun 06 09:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opera and #Linux , #HP and #Linux (Not Just for Phones) http://ur1.ca/05r3e http://ur1.ca/05r3gJun 06 09:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mobile #Linux Makes Gains, Linux Softphone Gets Boost Too http://ur1.ca/05r3d http://ur1.ca/05r3f http://ur1.ca/05r3hJun 06 09:07
TechrightsTitle: Browse the Web with Opera on Acer LumiRead .::. Size~: 41.4 KBJun 06 09:07
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DaemonFChttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/profuselyJun 06 09:08
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*DaemonFC edited the example sentenceJun 06 09:08
GnuWulfmoo?Jun 06 09:12
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DaemonFCI never cookJun 06 09:12
DaemonFC90% of what I brought back is frozen foodJun 06 09:12
GnuWulfi cookJun 06 09:15
*schestowitz thinks that DaemonFC cooks a jabbaJun 06 09:15
DaemonFCthat's so horribleJun 06 09:16
schestowitzMaybe one day you get too hungryJun 06 09:16
DaemonFCno, I'll starve firstJun 06 09:16
schestowitzAnd your pet will save your ifeJun 06 09:16
schestowitz*lifeJun 06 09:16
DaemonFCthat's my catJun 06 09:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC: just funny to see your reactionJun 06 09:16
schestowitzHow about that SWAT team that storm a dude's house and shot his dog?Jun 06 09:17
schestowitzWe posted the video here some time ago, including his reactionJun 06 09:17
DaemonFCyoui can shoot anything if you shout "It's coming right at us!!!!" firstJun 06 09:19
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 09:19
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_MalvarJun 06 09:24
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There's a bad guyJun 06 09:24
DaemonFCresponsible for Windows Media Audio and WM-DRMJun 06 09:24
DaemonFChttp://www.advogato.org/article/101.htmlJun 06 09:28
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schestowitzMicrosoft vs Google: The game becomes filthier even http://www.itvoir.com/portal/news/Corporate-News/Microsoft-vs-Google-The-game-becomes-filthier-even-7-556.aspJun 06 09:29
schestowitzBullJun 06 09:29
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I didn't know about this "Microsoft patents ASF media file format, stops reverse engineering" thingJun 06 09:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, In other words, you can transcode between Windows Media and other formats as long as you hook into Directshow to do itJun 06 09:31
DaemonFCaccording to MicrosoftJun 06 09:31
schestowitzhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=249196Jun 06 09:31
TechrightsTitle: News: Microsoft forced Bungie to accept 'Combat Evolved' name - ComputerAndVideoGames.com .::. Size~: 220.43 KBJun 06 09:31
DaemonFCit was 10 years agoJun 06 09:32
schestowitzYes, I noticedJun 06 09:33
schestowitzThis site has 20k pages or soJun 06 09:33
schestowitzBut it's hardly active anymore, I'm subscribed to itJun 06 09:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android Improvements and New Supporters http://ur1.ca/05r7x http://ur1.ca/05r7z http://ur1.ca/05r80 http://ur1.ca/05r81Jun 06 09:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Webia Technologies Builds Set-Top Box With #Linux http://ur1.ca/05r7yJun 06 09:34
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DaemonFC"Please, please do not encode to ASF unless you are absolutely sure of what you are getting into."Jun 06 09:35
DaemonFCASF=Windows MediaJun 06 09:35
DaemonFCand he's rightJun 06 09:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #Microsoft to cancel #bing cashback program - http://tinyurl.com/275kqqe Lack of adoption apparently. You can't pay people to use it! #failJun 06 09:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @_goblin: Bing Cashback usually only applied to the expensive stores anyway, so you were still usually money behind even if you used it. :)Jun 06 09:37
DaemonFC"For instance, Microsoft compelled Nullsoft to disable DSP plugin support in WinAmp with Windows Media Audio content because the DSP interface could be used to transcode, even though DSP plugins normally just process the audio."Jun 06 09:42
DaemonFCI remember when they did thatJun 06 09:42
DaemonFCWinamp also had its own WMA decoder at one point that was better than Microsoft'sJun 06 09:43
DaemonFCthey made them junk it and hook into DirectshowJun 06 09:43
DaemonFChttp://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6041345.htmlJun 06 09:45
TechrightsTitle: Active stream format for holding multiple media streams - US Patent 6041345 Abstract .::. Size~: 28.19 KBJun 06 09:45
DaemonFCPatent 6041345 Issued on March 21, 2000. Estimated Expiration Date: Icon_subject March 7, 2017. Jun 06 09:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @DaemonFC That sounds about right.... Maybe MS should just re-brand bing again and try again!Jun 06 09:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, Bing will be featured in Safari 5Jun 06 09:50
DaemonFCas a search optionJun 06 09:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Introduces sudoSocial, Ditches the Dialog Box http://ur1.ca/05rb1 http://ur1.ca/05lxe also see http://ur1.ca/05rb4Jun 06 09:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Tablets Run Linux, Reviewed http://ur1.ca/05rb2 http://ur1.ca/05rb3 http://ur1.ca/05rb6Jun 06 09:50
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DaemonFCWho in the HELL is using Safari on Windows?Jun 06 09:51
DaemonFCWhy would such a thing even exist?Jun 06 09:51
schestowitzIt's easy to buildJun 06 09:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I suggest Kumo, the Ultra-engine (not search, not decision)Jun 06 09:52
schestowitzMaybe fanbois of Jobs who can't use Macs at workJun 06 09:52
schestowitzIf they insist on using software from His ShinyhoodJun 06 09:53
DaemonFChttp://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2007/06/cultofmac_0612Jun 06 09:53
TechrightsTitle: Who in Their Right Mind Would Run Safari on Windows?  .::. Size~: 48.72 KBJun 06 09:53
DaemonFChehJun 06 09:54
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/060210-microsoft-launches-expedia-version-of.html?hpg1=bnJun 06 09:54
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft launches Expedia version of Internet Explorer 8 .::. Size~: 75.81 KBJun 06 09:54
DaemonFC"Apple is hoping there are Windows users so in love with their iPods and iTunes that they will also download Safari."Jun 06 09:55
DaemonFCWhy would they have to hope that?Jun 06 09:55
DaemonFCDon't they just put whatever they want on your PC without your permission anyway?Jun 06 09:55
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 09:55
GnuWulfsafai is webkit based isnt it?Jun 06 09:55
DaemonFCyeah, Apple made Webkit out of KHTML for SafariJun 06 09:56
DaemonFCthe only reasons Webkit is better than most Apple products is that (1) It started out as a decent engine anyway. and (2) Apple hired some competent developers to work on it.Jun 06 09:56
DaemonFCbut Safari is a piss poor browserJun 06 09:57
GnuWulfrekonq is webkitJun 06 09:57
DaemonFCit's a little better on Mac OS than on WindowsJun 06 09:57
GnuWulflolJun 06 09:57
DaemonFCmainly because the OS X Safari extensions don't work on WindowsJun 06 09:57
DaemonFCso you don't even have AdblockJun 06 09:57
DaemonFCit's also a memory hogJun 06 09:58
DaemonFCit uses about half again as much RAM as FirefoxJun 06 09:58
DaemonFCand it won't let you use VLC's plugins in itJun 06 09:58
DaemonFCit forces you to use QuicktimeJun 06 09:58
DaemonFCwhich wants to bring in iTunesJun 06 09:58
GnuWulfthats apple for youJun 06 09:59
DaemonFCand before you know it you have hundreds of megs of software you didn't want and new system services runningJun 06 09:59
DaemonFCand sometimes even stopping Windows from bootingJun 06 09:59
DaemonFCor your ability to even browse the webJun 06 09:59
DaemonFCtrue storyJun 06 09:59
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 09:59
DaemonFCOne time Apple's Bonjour service stopped Windows Vista with SP2 from booting upJun 06 09:59
DaemonFCand on another instance, they messed up soem Windows networking settingsJun 06 10:00
DaemonFCand no program could access anything on the internetJun 06 10:00
DaemonFChaving Apple software on your Windows machine is the next best thing to having malware poking around your systemJun 06 10:00
DaemonFCit will break something sooner or laterJun 06 10:01
DaemonFConly questions being what and whenJun 06 10:01
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 10:01
GnuWulfDaemonFC: so the point is if i want a webkit browser stay away froom apple softJun 06 10:01
DaemonFCstay far awayJun 06 10:01
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 10:01
DaemonFCChromium based browsers are the only decent Webkit browsers on WindowsJun 06 10:01
Diablo-D3[04:49:53] <Techrights> Title: Who in Their Right Mind Would Run Safari on Windows?  .::. Size~: 48.72 KBJun 06 10:02
Diablo-D3I wouldJun 06 10:02
Diablo-D3comes in handy when doing website dev to check webkit browsersJun 06 10:02
DaemonFCuse ChromeJun 06 10:02
DaemonFCit won't fuck with the shitJun 06 10:02
DaemonFC:PJun 06 10:02
GnuWulfDaemonFC: i use linux there is like 30million + webkit browsersJun 06 10:02
DaemonFCApple has been known to do thisJun 06 10:02
DaemonFCincluding Epiphany :)Jun 06 10:03
DaemonFCSecunia now has a little utility that sits in your system tray and warns you when you have outdated programs that have had security issues patched in newer versionsJun 06 10:04
Diablo-D3GnuWulf: not reallyJun 06 10:04
Diablo-D3and btw, I have DaemonFC on ignoreJun 06 10:04
Diablo-D3its a good idea for everyone else to do it tooJun 06 10:04
GnuWulfahhJun 06 10:05
Diablo-D3hes a bad trollJun 06 10:05
GnuWulfDiablo-D3: /ranting/ is better then what i have had to deal with all nightJun 06 10:05
Diablo-D3also, I'd like to see a good webkit browser for linuxJun 06 10:06
Diablo-D3but, for example, google chrome isnt itJun 06 10:06
GnuWulfrekonq is nice ishJun 06 10:06
Diablo-D3chrome still likes to crash when loading anything in a tab on my machineJun 06 10:06
Diablo-D3and Im using google's build for itJun 06 10:06
Diablo-D3so i have no clue wtf they did wrongJun 06 10:06
GnuWulflolJun 06 10:07
GnuWulfnor do theyJun 06 10:07
Diablo-D3Im thinking thatJun 06 10:07
DaemonFCThey're unconcerned with how many babies it eats on LinuxJun 06 10:07
DaemonFCthey have Windows to worry aboutJun 06 10:07
Diablo-D3its been having issues for about 3 monthsJun 06 10:07
Diablo-D3and they release new builds several times a monthJun 06 10:07
Diablo-D3and it still failsJun 06 10:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7237/65019392.pngJun 06 10:07
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Diablo-D3I think its because Im on amd64Jun 06 10:07
GnuWulfDiablo-D3: i hear midori is goodJun 06 10:08
DaemonFClooks like they know IE pretty wellJun 06 10:08
GnuWulfand arora seems okayJun 06 10:08
Diablo-D3midori is really shittyJun 06 10:08
Diablo-D3its barely a browser at allJun 06 10:08
DaemonFCMidori is supposed to be minimalJun 06 10:08
Diablo-D3a browser is more than just the engineJun 06 10:08
DaemonFCit's part of XFCEJun 06 10:08
GnuWulfwhat about arora?Jun 06 10:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] The future of computing museums. http://is.gd/cEuQ5Jun 06 10:08
DaemonFCcrappyJun 06 10:08
TechrightsTitle: Restoration: Impossible - Random Access Memories .::. Size~: 26.16 KBJun 06 10:08
Diablo-D3doesnt seem to be built on debianJun 06 10:09
Diablo-D3oh wait it isJun 06 10:09
Diablo-D3meh, its qtJun 06 10:09
Diablo-D3fuck thatJun 06 10:09
Diablo-D3Im not installing a damned qt app just to browse withJun 06 10:09
Diablo-D3thats retardedJun 06 10:09
*Diablo-D3 tries chrome againJun 06 10:10
Diablo-D36.0.442.0Jun 06 10:11
*DaemonFC is singing along with Godsmack's One Rainy Day as it storms outside :)Jun 06 10:11
Diablo-D3hrm seems to be working againJun 06 10:11
Diablo-D3and flash is also fixedJun 06 10:11
Diablo-D3loading flash used to crash the tabJun 06 10:11
GnuWulfjust go with mozilla 5.0 xDJun 06 10:12
Diablo-D3I use firefox from trunkJun 06 10:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware and Evidence of Fund Gathering http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/02/diaspora-project/Jun 06 10:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Valuable to Africa, South African FOSS Site Returns http://ur1.ca/05rf9 http://ur1.ca/05rfaJun 06 10:12
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DaemonFCoh yeah, I'm feeling the cocaine in that coffeeJun 06 10:13
DaemonFC:PJun 06 10:13
Diablo-D3oohJun 06 10:13
Diablo-D3html5 works well in chrome nowJun 06 10:13
DaemonFCno shit sherlockJun 06 10:13
DaemonFC:PJun 06 10:13
GnuWulfrekonq would be cool if i had KDEJun 06 10:14
GnuWulfxDJun 06 10:14
GnuWulfit got a decent rating vs chrome but :PJun 06 10:14
DaemonFCI hate songs that have a hidden track and use 5 minutes of silence to hide itJun 06 10:15
schestowitz*LOL* 'Electronic beancurd' on menu at Taiwan Microsoft restaurant http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jcePPVRvTs7X2dhb10tZqwSJ4NAAJun 06 10:16
TechrightsTitle: AFP: 'Electronic beancurd' on menu at Taiwan Microsoft restaurant .::. Size~: 7.37 KBJun 06 10:16
Diablo-D3ooohJun 06 10:16
Diablo-D3webm works in my build of chromeJun 06 10:16
schestowitz"I'll have the cyanide please"Jun 06 10:16
GnuWulfnight all remember to tip Wulf-is-not-here as he need your money and fewdsJun 06 10:17
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DaemonFCI just had a 2 liter of diet dr pepper explode on meJun 06 10:19
DaemonFC:(Jun 06 10:19
DaemonFCthe neighbors may wonder why I was using that kind of language at 5 AMJun 06 10:20
DaemonFC:PJun 06 10:20
DaemonFCwell, at least it's only going to be 74 degrees today :)Jun 06 10:23
DaemonFCit'll be 90 by Friday thoughJun 06 10:23
DaemonFC:(Jun 06 10:23
DaemonFCugghJun 06 10:23
DaemonFCI should go outside and enjoy the only nice day this weekJun 06 10:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] CII’s sixth India Innovation Summit has open source on the agenda, Microsoft slink in as well. http://is.gd/cEvNN #floss #fossJun 06 10:33
TechrightsTitle: Indiantelevision.com > News Headlines > CII’s sixth India Innovation Summit in Bangalore kicks off on 17 June .::. Size~: 14.69 KBJun 06 10:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #CLT Sean paul - Temperature "oh lord, gal I got the right tactics to turn you on, and girl I... Wanna be the Papa...You can be the Mom...."Jun 06 10:38
oiaohmReally funny if I remember right MS started the innovation Summits.Jun 06 10:43
oiaohmhttp://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/nonprofit-developer-apples-no-donation-policy-is-a-cop-out.arsJun 06 10:45
TechrightsTitle: Apple's no-donation policy for apps is a cop-out .::. Size~: 34.17 KBJun 06 10:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] «After June 30th, all Twitter clients will need to use OAuth to continue making authenticated API calls.» No !elmdentica with #twitter, thenJun 06 10:46
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schestowitzcubezzz: http://www.ihealthbeat.org/articles/2010/6/2/telus-microsoft-begin-pilot-project-for-phr-platform-in-canada.aspxJun 06 10:56
TechrightsTitle: TELUS, Microsoft Begin Pilot Project for PHR Platform in Canada - iHealthBeat .::. Size~: 46.38 KBJun 06 10:56
schestowitzhttp://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225400063&subSection=SecuritycJun 06 11:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jwildeboer: Says it all. ur1.ca/05r82 #17 with linux you are not allowed to interact with Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Win/Mac onlyJun 06 11:08
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seller_liarcraig mundie will participate in bilderberg groupJun 06 11:12
schestowitzomar_: http://www.ameinfo.com/mobile/news/company/233988/Jun 06 11:15
schestowitzseller_liar: which one?Jun 06 11:15
seller_liarthis yearJun 06 11:16
DaemonFCschestowitz, new block switching algorithm for Vorbis is in the AoTuv test buildsJun 06 11:17
DaemonFCit's pretty awesomeJun 06 11:17
DaemonFCsupposedly, MPEG Cartel has a patent on the way AAC does it, and this is designed to give Vorbis similar results while avoiding their patentJun 06 11:18
seller_liarhttp://www.infocon.ro/2010/06/bilderberg-2010-primele-poze-cu-membrii-bilderberg/Jun 06 11:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There should be a pushJun 06 11:26
DaemonFCto light a fire under Chris Montgomery's assJun 06 11:27
DaemonFCto merge thisJun 06 11:27
schestowitzseller_liar: he was there beforeJun 06 11:27
schestowitz2005 IIRCJun 06 11:27
schestowitzseller_liar: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+bilderberg+mundie&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=Jun 06 11:27
DaemonFCI understand his argument against blind merges where he said Aoyumi has gotten things wrong before that he's had to fix, but it wouldn't get that way if he didn't let the patches snowball to the point where it's a huge megapatchJun 06 11:28
DaemonFCthat's what happens when you do nothing for 2-3 years while the fork is improving and you sit there with your thumb up your assJun 06 11:28
DaemonFCdoesn't he know this?Jun 06 11:29
DaemonFCLinux users typically see no improvements in Vorbis for years at a timeJun 06 11:30
DaemonFCwhile you can get a better Vorbis encoder on WindowsJun 06 11:30
DaemonFCthere's something wrong with this picture, deeply wrongJun 06 11:30
schestowitzWhy don't you use GNU/Linux?Jun 06 11:31
DaemonFCand it's one of the things that's wrong about having to depend on someone to build packages and place them in the repository for youJun 06 11:31
schestowitzNoJun 06 11:31
schestowitzbrbJun 06 11:31
DaemonFCthey bitch that "Well, upstream won't get off their ass, so neither will we"Jun 06 11:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's not always easy to build AoTuv on LinuxJun 06 11:32
DaemonFCoftentimes Aoyumi releases it as a Microsoft Visual C Project designed to be compiled with Visual StudioJun 06 11:32
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DaemonFCthe last patch he released that applies cleanly to the libvorbis upstream source without knowing what the hel lyou are doing beyond that is really really really oldJun 06 11:33
DaemonFCI think it was like AoTuv release 5.5 and it only applies to the libvorbis 1.2.1 rc3 sourceJun 06 11:34
DaemonFCthere's no synchronization between upstream Vorbis and AoTuvJun 06 11:34
DaemonFCand shit jsut happens whenever it happensJun 06 11:35
DaemonFCand it results in Windows users having the most pain-free access to the best encoderJun 06 11:35
DaemonFCwhile Linux users get something that hasn't improved much at all in 5 yearsJun 06 11:35
DaemonFCand have to sweat bullets if they want to build AoTuv manuallyJun 06 11:35
DaemonFCI can't believe that Google went for thisJun 06 11:36
DaemonFCthey're using the damned reference encoderJun 06 11:36
DaemonFCI thought they would want something that could handle low bitrates gracefully, thus making it appropriate for streamingJun 06 11:36
DaemonFCupstream Vorbis doesn't really do that all that wellJun 06 11:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Well we have webGL and HTML5, are facebook guys are planning for "3D facebook wall" ?? #webgl #wall #facebook #virtual #3dJun 06 11:37
DaemonFCyou need a Vorbis stream of something on the order of double the bitrate with Xiph.org Vorbis to get acceptable streaming qualityJun 06 11:37
DaemonFCvs. AoTuv 5.7Jun 06 11:37
DaemonFCso yeah, enjoy paying for the extra bandwidthJun 06 11:38
DaemonFCand tell your users to get faster internet access if they canJun 06 11:38
DaemonFCit's simply unbelievable that Google just swallowed that wholeJun 06 11:39
DaemonFCI mean nothing stops you the user from using AoTuv with your own WebM video, but Google is using Xiph.org's libvorbis for YoutubeJun 06 11:39
DaemonFCAoTuv 5.8 will be the "Eats AAC for Breakfast" releaseJun 06 11:40
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 11:40
DaemonFCit would be nice if someone actually used itJun 06 11:42
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schestowitzhttp://www.siliconera.com/2010/06/01/why-is-microsoft-visiting-kojima-productions/ What's this all about? Jun 06 11:49
schestowitzhttp://www.conceivablytech.com/1136/business/firefox-is-stuck-at-25-and-may-be-drowning/Jun 06 11:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, Fight the MPEG Cartel on the beaches, don't just release something "good enough"Jun 06 11:50
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TechrightsHello World!Jun 06 11:50
TechrightsTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.25 KBJun 06 11:50
TechrightsTitle:     freenode: frequently-asked questions     .::. Size~: 74.79 KBJun 06 11:50
DaemonFCthat's what THEY doJun 06 11:50
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 11:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice post from @grifferz of @bitfolk about entropy on virtual servers http://bit.ly/9LE7V8Jun 06 11:55
TechrightsTitle: The ongoing struggle  » Blog Archive   » Adventures in entropy, part 1 .::. Size~: 27.54 KBJun 06 11:55
schestowitzhttp://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225300272&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_NewsJun 06 11:58
TechrightsTitle: Steve Jobs: iPad Suicide Factory 'Pretty Nice' -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 83.74 KBJun 06 11:58
schestowitz:-pJun 06 11:58
schestowitz'Apple CEO Steve Jobs said the Taiwanese-owned iPad factory that's been branded a sweatshop amid a rash of worker suicides is actually "pretty nice." 'Jun 06 11:58
DaemonFCthe iLemming Factory is a magical mystical place where all the people rejoiceJun 06 11:59
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 11:59
DaemonFCdidn't you know that?Jun 06 11:59
DaemonFCThe iSheeple should buy it anyway, because Crapple is the environmentally and ethically concerned company out for social justice and peace in our time that it isJun 06 12:01
DaemonFCWhy else would they promote the douchiest band in Doucheville? (U2)Jun 06 12:02
DaemonFCThey do manage to proliferate the ethos of faux corporate concern that manages to wash away the stench of slave labor, worker suicides, and environmental destruction that they cause though. Really fucking good PR team.Jun 06 12:04
MinceRi'd like to send Blow to a "pretty nice" place.Jun 06 12:06
DaemonFCMinceR, I say we strip Jobs of his billions of dollars and send him to work in one of those factories, making 15 cents an hour, unpaid overtime, 7 days a week until he either dies of exhaustion, poisoning, or kills himselfJun 06 12:07
DaemonFCsounds like a nice place to meJun 06 12:07
MinceRtoday i had the idea that their products being overpriced, incompatible and burdened with lock-in might actually enforce the loyalty of their cultists via cognitive dissonance.Jun 06 12:07
DaemonFCand if he doesn't work fast enough, they can flog himJun 06 12:07
MinceRDaemonFC: that's part of what i implied, yesJun 06 12:08
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MinceRthough there are other kinds of "pretty nice" places too -- perhaps he could do a tour of them :>Jun 06 12:08
DaemonFCApple disgusts me way worse than MicrosoftJun 06 12:09
DaemonFCthey manage to deflect the criticism they earn somehowJun 06 12:09
DaemonFCI think that's whyJun 06 12:09
DaemonFCeverything seems to stick to MicrosoftJun 06 12:10
DaemonFCbut Apple is coated in teflon Jun 06 12:10
MinceRactually m$ seems to stay clean in the eyes of many sheepleJun 06 12:10
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cJUBk1hG3A&feature=relatedJun 06 12:19
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Living on a Thin Line: The Struggle of the Working Poor .::. Size~: 77.92 KBJun 06 12:19
schestowitzYour economy is going down the ****Jun 06 12:19
DaemonFCof courseJun 06 12:21
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schestowitzSo true: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snI_OXKNp2I&feature=relatedJun 06 12:45
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Social Savvy - The three Ds - Dating .::. Size~: 72.29 KBJun 06 12:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] How conflicts of interest affect the credibility of the news we read and watch. http://is.gd/cECoQ #media #corruption #politicsJun 06 12:55
TechrightsTitle: What's Wrong With the News? .::. Size~: 6.51 KBJun 06 12:55
schestowitzWulf-is-not-here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUgJun 06 13:18
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn .::. Size~: 93.7 KBJun 06 13:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera How conflicts of interest affect the credibility of the news we read and watch. http://is.gd/cECoQ #media #politicsJun 06 13:19
TechrightsTitle: What's Wrong With the News? .::. Size~: 6.51 KBJun 06 13:19
schestowitzDaemonFC should watch that video tooJun 06 13:23
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oiaohmYep MS spams me again.Jun 06 13:40
oiaohmSends me two copies of my regirestration.Jun 06 13:40
schestowitzWeirdJun 06 13:41
schestowitzGoogle showed me some ads that are supposed to be targetted at girlsJun 06 13:41
schestowitzAre their profiling algos working at all?Jun 06 13:41
schestowitzoiaohm: can you mail me those messages?Jun 06 13:41
oiaohmNo.Jun 06 13:42
oiaohmThey contain my Microsoft registered partner regJun 06 13:42
oiaohmSeams if you renew using firefox or iceweasel under Linux for some reason you get sent the message twice.Jun 06 13:43
oiaohmIf you use firefox under windows you get the message once.Jun 06 13:43
oiaohmYes MS servers are warped.Jun 06 13:43
oiaohmAs your wife/girl friend/... Been at your machine without tell you schestowitzJun 06 13:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #oauth seems like a load of bullshit crap thrown up by a drunken bull on heat. #elmdenticaJun 06 14:04
schestowitzHmm... I didn't know GB conspired to kill Lincoln. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q&feature=relatedJun 06 14:05
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- 1932, A True History of the United States .::. Size~: 102.71 KBJun 06 14:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Leadership courses given by the military, probably explains why so many portuguese bosses are complete wankers.Jun 06 14:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] They may be nice people, but not leaders.Jun 06 14:09
oiaohmhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100604162131869  Novell Little more cashJun 06 14:10
TechrightsTitle: Groklaw - SCO Agrees to Pay the Constructive Trust Money to Novell Now - Updated .::. Size~: 123.05 KBJun 06 14:10
oiaohmSo a little more lifeJun 06 14:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Hey, #twitter don't drop http auth, just forbid it under http and allow it only under https. Don't be #wankersJun 06 14:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] And here's further evidence #oauth is total bullshit: http://www.jaanuskase.com/en/2010/01/understanding_the_guts_of_twit.html #wankersJun 06 14:23
TechrightsTitle:     Understanding the guts of Twitter's OAuth for client apps - Jaanus Kase, jaanuskase.com     .::. Size~: 22.13 KBJun 06 14:23
schestowitzoiaohm: "In real life, though, it's bankrupt, has spent its money and is now spending loaned money it is supposed to pay back, hardy har, so it's unlikely that Novell will see the rest. It's not like SCOfolk will take a second job just to pay off its debts. Snort. "Jun 06 14:34
schestowitzInteresting updateJun 06 14:34
oiaohmNo this could get far more interesting.Jun 06 14:35
oiaohmWhen SCO cannot pay its investers can be investgated to see if they were paying under the table as to say.Jun 06 14:36
oiaohmHello pandoraJun 06 14:36
oiaohmhttp://www.fasterthanthewind.org/  Ok interestingJun 06 14:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Signed #wikipedia shirt up for auction on eBay, proceeds to WIkimedia Foundation http://is.gd/cEJ8B-Jun 06 15:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Inspired by Peppermint, Ive just moved part of my main rig to the Cloud as an experiment (IRC,Twitter, Docs, Photoediting, Online Storage)Jun 06 15:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Damn, Google Wave is not supported by Prism (or vice versa!) Lets hope for an update soon! #googlewave #cloud #linux #prism #fossJun 06 15:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Getting ready now for a trip to parents house for Sunday dinner.Jun 06 15:56
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MadRobotSalam, everyone.Jun 06 17:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I removed flash long back in 2008 ;) RT: @mehulved: Good thing I removed flash. Now I can see youtube videos in HTML5 :-)Jun 06 17:12
MadRobotOkay, wait a minute. HTML5 available already?Jun 06 17:21
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I compiled the latest version of sarg (http://bit.ly/3m7vcP ) for my personal use, http://bit.ly/dzPOk5 http://bit.ly/aoJsLc #sarg #fedoraJun 06 17:38
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schestowitzMadRobot: salam, MadRobotJun 06 17:46
schestowitzMadRobot: it's a specJun 06 17:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin "cloud" is almost opposite of FOSS. We oughtn't 'advertise' it. #fogcomputingJun 06 17:46
schestowitzso html5 is out for you to work with, even if it's partly implemented across the spectrum and not fully finalisedJun 06 17:47
schestowitzTechrights has some html5 in itJun 06 17:47
MadRobotschestowitz, yeah. I just figured it out. But it seems it's not stable, and not completely reliable.Jun 06 17:49
MadRobotI can't wait until it's fully functional to complete replace Adobe Trash.Jun 06 17:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I think, it is good time to start a "flash uninstall day". #flashunintall #html5Jun 06 17:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/34914957#notice-35093535 "@schestowitz What about foss alternatives, such as KDE's OwnCloud?"Jun 06 18:28
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schestowitzLinsxxxxxxxxx peopleJun 06 18:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Idiots can be defeated but they just never admit it." ~Richard M. StallmanJun 06 18:30
MadRobotschestowitz, anything new from the Linsux infants?Jun 06 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft: “License with MS so That Not a Single DRI Machine Ever Ships” http://ur1.ca/05trd #antitrust #dri #usdojJun 06 18:32
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft: “Find a Way for [CompuAdd] to Recoup What They Have Paid to DRI, Then License with MS so That Not a Single DRI Machine Ever Ships” | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.9 KBJun 06 18:32
ender2070ugggghhhJun 06 18:34
ender2070lolJun 06 18:34
ender2070clicking that dragged me into exploring the users twitter and seeing lefty's recent stupid pro apple anti-gpl stanceJun 06 18:35
ender2070attacking the gpl because people demand source codeJun 06 18:35
ender2070FLOSS isn't there so companies can make free profit and not contributeJun 06 18:35
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yonose:PJun 06 18:38
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yonosenobody moves yet :P ...Jun 06 18:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I've got a feeling oauth is incompatible with Free Software if you don't use web apps, otherwise, secrets have to be divulged...Jun 06 18:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Can somebody tell me - on windows if you have flash installed with IE, if you install Chrome Browser then will it auto-detect flash ?Jun 06 18:58
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MikeCHey RoyJun 06 19:01
MikeCyou there royJun 06 19:04
MikeCdo you have the trophyJun 06 19:04
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MinceRgeekingsJun 06 19:06
MikeCall the breastJun 06 19:06
sebsebsebMinceR:  Jun 06 19:06
MinceRsebsebseb: Jun 06 19:07
MinceRMikeC: all the breast wishes?Jun 06 19:07
sebsebsebMinceR:  Jun 06 19:07
MinceRsebsebseb: Jun 06 19:07
MikeCta, any1 seen roy chestofdrawers?Jun 06 19:08
schestowitzHey, MikeCJun 06 19:09
MikeChey roystonJun 06 19:09
schestowitzI was just talking about you with VCraigJun 06 19:09
schestowitz*CraigJun 06 19:09
schestowitzI need to give you your trophyJun 06 19:09
MikeCyeahJun 06 19:09
MikeChows thingsJun 06 19:09
MikeCi have been cycling a lot of lateJun 06 19:09
yonosensisodiya, I think soJun 06 19:10
MikeCare you keeping wellJun 06 19:10
MikeCwe must meet up after my exams and go for foodJun 06 19:10
schestowitzMikeC: you do the triathlon with Stsve?Jun 06 19:10
MikeCis he doing a triJun 06 19:10
schestowitzMikeC: you still do an exam?Jun 06 19:10
MikeCyesJun 06 19:10
MikeCon tuesdayJun 06 19:10
schestowitzIs that your fourth Masters degree?Jun 06 19:10
MikeCnah thirdJun 06 19:10
schestowitzGeez!Jun 06 19:11
MikeCand lastJun 06 19:11
schestowitzYou've clogged up the system :-)_Jun 06 19:11
MikeCare you entering mr f this year after the lack of prozes sid is not botheringJun 06 19:11
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schestowitzMikeC: Sid didn't get a prize even for 2ndJun 06 19:12
MikeCno we all got nothing even meJun 06 19:12
schestowitzAnd I might not bother either cause it would require great effortJun 06 19:12
MikeCthat would leave the door open for some other people to take up the challengeJun 06 19:12
schestowitzMikeC: this Ben Hundson dude was on Chart TV yesterdayJun 06 19:13
MikeCthey will all start coming out of the woodwork once they find out we're not entering:)Jun 06 19:13
schestowitzHe was at the gym a few weeks ago, we spoke for a  whileJun 06 19:13
MikeCwho is ben huindsonJun 06 19:13
MikeCnever heard of himJun 06 19:13
MikeCis he a rapperJun 06 19:13
schestowitzMikeC: http://vimeo.com/6769170Jun 06 19:14
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MikeCis he famousJun 06 19:16
MikeCi saw Jun 06 19:16
schestowitzNot veryJun 06 19:16
schestowitzSidekick of Jay-ZJun 06 19:16
MikeCdid you tell him about boycott novell? I saw jimmy carr in manchester the other day, he is a comedianJun 06 19:17
MikeCanyway are you doing this tri with ho then?Jun 06 19:17
MikeCwho else is doing it?Jun 06 19:17
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schestowitzMikeC: well, the site, it's called techrights now...Jun 06 19:19
schestowitzBoycott Novell is a campaignJun 06 19:19
schestowitzAnd a name I never choseJun 06 19:19
schestowitz[19:17] <MikeC> who else is doing it?Jun 06 19:19
schestowitzSteveO and his egoJun 06 19:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz What about a FOSS cloud app?Jun 06 19:19
schestowitzCan you imagine him do the swim?Jun 06 19:19
schestowitzHe started bragging about arms getting stronger, which is funny because he's all flabJun 06 19:20
MikeCsideways:)Jun 06 19:20
schestowitzLike a manateeJun 06 19:20
MikeChe's flabulousJun 06 19:20
MikeChe's a bit to ocd pour moiJun 06 19:20
schestowitzWhat's this page he wrote about you?Jun 06 19:21
MikeCbut he has a space age bike, £5000 worth apparentlyJun 06 19:21
MikeCpage?Jun 06 19:21
schestowitzMikeC: yes, when he's into somethijng, he goes all the wayJun 06 19:22
schestowitzIt's a mentalityJun 06 19:22
MikeCand beyondJun 06 19:22
schestowitzWhen one identifies self with some occupationJun 06 19:22
schestowitzMy uncle in Davie FL is the sameJun 06 19:22
MikeCbuilding a new identityJun 06 19:22
schestowitzBuying the most expensive bikesJun 06 19:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Wants Canada’s Health Records, #Telus Gives Them Away http://ur1.ca/05tyl #quebec #healthcare #lawJun 06 19:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz The cloud itself is not wrong, it would be the purposes its used for that could be.Jun 06 19:22
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MikeCof the uber triathlete:)Jun 06 19:23
schestowitzIron MANJun 06 19:23
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MikeCi wonder if he might try to enter mr f once he finds out we are not enteringJun 06 19:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How and Why Browser Share Ratio will be changed completely after 6-7 month http://post.ly/idzpJun 06 19:23
schestowitzIrony kid :-DJun 06 19:23
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schestowitzMikeC: I hope he willJun 06 19:24
MikeCme tooJun 06 19:24
schestowitzBut I don't know if they'll run itJun 06 19:24
schestowitzThere were some gaps some years]Jun 06 19:24
schestowitzAt least 1, maybe 2Jun 06 19:24
MikeCi'd even like them to put a cycling event in to tempt himJun 06 19:24
MikeCthat could be the key to drawing him into battle:)Jun 06 19:24
MikeCput hios big arms to the testJun 06 19:25
MikeCthe mighty atomJun 06 19:25
schestowitzatom?Jun 06 19:25
MikeChis ring nameJun 06 19:25
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MikeCanyway what are your thoughts on the spillageJun 06 19:25
narendraWell - have anybody read - http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/06/how-and-why-browser-share-ratio-will-be.htmlJun 06 19:27
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MikeChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-WmDdXZflo&feature=relatedJun 06 19:27
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schestowitzring name?Jun 06 19:29
schestowitzMikeC: BP?Jun 06 19:29
schestowitzI was gonna write about that laterJun 06 19:29
schestowitzGates Foundation is a BP backerJun 06 19:30
schestowitzThey don't get enough flak for itJun 06 19:30
schestowitz<narendra> hi, did u read my blog on prediction Jun 06 19:30
schestowitzHi, narendraJun 06 19:30
MikeCyep, there seems to be a lot of disagreement regarding the flowsJun 06 19:30
schestowitzbrowser market doesn't matter all that muchJun 06 19:30
schestowitzNot anymore, because Web standards are winningJun 06 19:30
schestowitzMikeC: don't worry, we'll get another oceanJun 06 19:31
MikeCi think 5000 barrells per day is roughly equivalent to 10litres per second or about a bucket every second, if you look at just one of the leaks below it seems many times more http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcamJun 06 19:33
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MikeCthe pressure must be huge to force that quantity of oil at that rate from so deep beneath the ocean bed, makes you wonder how they could ever lower anything on top of it being swept asideJun 06 19:35
narendraHi, Jun 06 19:37
narendraI went for a having a teaJun 06 19:37
schestowitzMikeC: it's a lot more than thatJun 06 19:38
narendrabut this may lead to drop flash ratio tooJun 06 19:38
schestowitzBP is lyingJun 06 19:38
schestowitzTo reduce finesJun 06 19:38
MikeCi doubt sealing the leak is an option, way too much pressure, maybe radially plant explosives xm from the well hole at a given depth in a nattempt to get the hole to collapse in on itself, although high risk and risk of bigger hole propogationJun 06 19:38
schestowitzIt's more like millions in totalJun 06 19:38
schestowitzThey have a monopoly on information thanks to those underwater camerasJun 06 19:38
schestowitz"spillcam" is a lie. It should be called "spincam"Jun 06 19:39
schestowitzI posted many articles about it, they are lying big timeJun 06 19:39
MikeCi tried explaining to my boss who has a house in florida that the leak was being massively underestimated, he was having none of it, the news never lies:)Jun 06 19:39
schestowitznarendra: yes, video esp.Jun 06 19:39
schestowitzMikeC: the news does lieJun 06 19:40
schestowitzButl..Jun 06 19:40
schestowitzThe net has reliable sites, like FAIRJun 06 19:40
schestowitzRussian Today is OKJun 06 19:40
schestowitz*Russia Today (RT)Jun 06 19:40
schestowitzI wrote to my relatives in Florida who claim they'll have not much impactJun 06 19:41
schestowitzAtlantic sideJun 06 19:41
schestowitzBut if you're in the gulf side, it's another storyJun 06 19:41
schestowitzBP funded ObamaJun 06 19:41
MikeChttp://thisistheendoftheworldasweknowit.com/archives/will-the-bp-oil-spill-be-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-for-the-gulf-of-mexicoJun 06 19:42
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MikeCYes, this all looks very ominous indeed.Jun 06 19:42
MikeCtheoretically speaking even the relief wells are not a guaranteed solutionJun 06 19:43
MikeCthis thing could go unchecked for months, maybe more, and then what?Jun 06 19:43
MikeCoil rain?Jun 06 19:43
MikeCCorexit 9527 rain?Jun 06 19:44
schestowitzCan'tJun 06 19:49
schestowitzOil won't quite evaporate with waterJun 06 19:49
schestowitzBut maybe it takes some chemicals with the dropsJun 06 19:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ignoring the warnings given by Google Wave when running with Prism has no ill effects. Thats another integration for the desktop. #cloudJun 06 19:49
schestowitzI just reckon less water will evaporate because of the layer of oilJun 06 19:51
MikeCi read that the corexit dispersant can phase transition and is many times more toxic than the oilJun 06 19:51
schestowitzThen, maybe you'll have less precipitation and draught... but I'm not a meteorologist, I'm speculating.Jun 06 19:51
MikeCphase transition meaning it can evaporate and possibly be drawn up into the cloudsJun 06 19:51
schestowitzHow long before the oil sinks?Jun 06 19:52
schestowitzOr washes to shore?Jun 06 19:52
MikeCcould the sheen of oil on the ocean surface prevent evaporation and rainfall generation somehow...i wonderJun 06 19:52
schestowitzDon't know :-)Jun 06 19:52
schestowitzIt's not an everyday scenarioJun 06 19:52
schestowitzYou know, like heaps of oil on top of a huge area of seas the size of a country or 5Jun 06 19:53
MikeCif the oil sinks to the ocean floor it would seriously interfere with the food chainJun 06 19:53
schestowitzIt interferes also on topJun 06 19:53
MikeCbp aren't even sure how big this field isJun 06 19:53
schestowitzAnimals carry gooJun 06 19:53
schestowitzAnd they can't see preyJun 06 19:53
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schestowitzIf you eat plankton, then you now absorb more oil than edible foodJun 06 19:54
MikeCand tinned tuna::)Jun 06 19:54
schestowitzI know, I know...Jun 06 19:54
schestowitzI still have a good stock hereJun 06 19:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin How did you get the Dr Who game it says 15th June on the website.Jun 06 19:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Not episode 1.....The City of the Daleks...I think ep2 is on that date.. http://tinyurl.com/34zfdmdJun 06 19:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ElectionMall Targets Politicians, #Microsoft at #Bilderberg 2010, and #TechAmerica #Lobbying http://ur1.ca/05u5aJun 06 20:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I wonder if registering a Seesmic account offers the feature of showing your followers, its sadly missing in a Prism client as I can see.Jun 06 20:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin Okay,ta. Dr Who fest coming up.Jun 06 20:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Its a good little game...I think more for the diehard Doctor Who fan though not the casual viewer.Jun 06 20:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Its funny though, even the BBC now acknowledges Linux, since it mentions Wine for running the game on Linux.Jun 06 20:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Although in true BBC fashion they get it slightly wrong, Wine is NOT an emulator!...BBC thinks it is.Jun 06 20:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Taking a look at the latest midnight commander release.....Jun 06 20:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera BTW when playing Dr Who through Wine, you may fine you need to run it with "virtual desktop" enabled...on a couple of my rigs...Jun 06 20:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera full screen did not play nicely.Jun 06 20:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin like many middle aged men I started watching it from behind the settee :) can't see myself giving it up now.Jun 06 20:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera I never considered myself middle aged...Im not quite yet, but rapidly approaching...Jun 06 20:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin Ha ha you will be there before you know it.Jun 06 20:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera that's mean to @_goblinJun 06 20:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz but then he will always be older than me! Life begins at 40!Jun 06 20:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera and you will be older too!! ;)Jun 06 20:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Wont that make you a "Silver surfer"? ;)Jun 06 20:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera he's still too young foe PalinJun 06 20:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Hey! You leave my Sarah alone! She may be after a younger british man who wears a cowboy hat... Fine looking woman that Palin.Jun 06 20:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Yes it was mean of me but Goblin called a silver surfer! Going to play the game before this ends up tears (mine) :-)Jun 06 20:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Nothing wrong with Silver surfers....Ive probably got enough grey hair to be one myself.Jun 06 20:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Accused of Cracking Down for Added Profit in the East http://ur1.ca/05u9p #nz #pr #china #fossJun 06 20:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin do with BT's CEO did (dying with oil)Jun 06 20:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I swear by shoe polish! Although I think grey is distingishing...its when you get a Ballmer style you need to worry.Jun 06 20:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So much for battling to bring down Newzbin through the courts: "The Amazing Resurrection of Newzbin" http://tinyurl.com/345arfo #tpbJun 06 20:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I suggested a time long ago that the tactics used to tackle piracy wouldnt work. I also said that Usenet would see an increase...Jun 06 20:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looks like I was right and since Usenet downloads avoid the "sharing" aspect, how will they tackle the downloader now?Jun 06 20:57
DaemonFCDRM = Competing with free with something that isn't and making your product worse.Jun 06 20:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Many suggested a way to remove the copyright infringment issue from the mainstream...Looks like others who know nothing know best...Jun 06 20:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and I can guarantee in 5 years time, we will still have the same problem....License ISP's like public houses and make them responsible...Jun 06 21:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] for their customers. I am sure we would see more proactive and effectives steps taken to prevent copyright infringement then.Jun 06 21:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin point takenJun 06 21:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin "Everybody is connected to everybody else, all data that can be shared will be shared will be shared: get used to it." --MoglenJun 06 21:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin IOW, they must embrace new business modelsJun 06 21:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and I don't mean target the users...Tell me, what do ISP's who offer super fast broadband think their customers do with that speed?Jun 06 21:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz The problem with that is that if a creator chooses not to share freely then you infringe on their freedoms by sharing.Jun 06 21:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Microsoft is no longer coveringWalmart for a display case that's not selling. ZuneHD 16GB is the last Zune left,Cast down with the RCA Lyra.Jun 06 21:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I would suggest that users who don't agree with copyright law, merely boycott the products...Jun 06 21:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Not surprising as ZuneHD's killer feature is listening to jazz music and Rush Limbaugh in digital quality. :PJun 06 21:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Why? Surely under the banner of freedom they can choose whatever they want?Jun 06 21:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz can someone show how a FOSS model would enable the recouping of the production costs of say GTA or COD?Jun 06 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] #Microsoft should stop targeting 60 year old Republicans who can't figure out #Zune HD anyway. Small wonder they're canning managers.Jun 06 21:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I have to say, out of all the Twitter clients, Ive been most productive with the web based Seesmic - great app! #twitter #app #free #seesmicJun 06 21:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @daemonfc Microsoft is no longer covering Walmart for a display case that's not selling. ZuneHD 16GB is the last Zune leftJun 06 21:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Just in case anyone thought #Metallica couldn't suck worse, they ruined the vinyl of #Death #Magnetic by downsampling the botched CD onto itJun 06 21:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I wasn't arging that. I just explained what happens.Jun 06 21:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Suggestion for the next TV version of a Terry Pratchett book...... "Equal Rites" #discworld #terrypratchett #books #tv #filmJun 06 21:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I know, thats why I say "someone" I have often read the proprietary = evil argument for others, and I can't see a viable...Jun 06 21:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz model for the likes of COD or GTA...besides as we have seen, consumers are happy to buy these titles in the millions...Jun 06 21:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Updating my aincient IRiver IHP-140 to Rockbox 3.6 http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes36Jun 06 21:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] _ @_Goblin Sure, If COD is high, do not make its public-download, sell with GPL license with suitable price.Jun 06 21:16
DaemonFCpeople that buy these games for $60 are the idiotsJun 06 21:18
DaemonFCI don't tend to buy anything until it's used or under $20 newJun 06 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @_goblin: Rainbow Six: Vegas and Vegas II is decent for a $10 game. :)Jun 06 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gartner Group Urged Businesses to Move to Vista, Now It Does the Same With #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/05ueqJun 06 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @DaemonFC I am not so much talking about price, Im refering to the ethos of FOSS and its suitability to software such as COD or GTAJun 06 21:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz, DirectCompute does not compute! Danger! Danger!Jun 06 21:19
DaemonFC:PJun 06 21:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, Goodwill Industries is a sham. It's fraud.Jun 06 21:21
DaemonFCTotal, complete fraud.Jun 06 21:21
DaemonFCThey took donations for Hurricane Katrina victims and shipped them overseas to sell.Jun 06 21:21
DaemonFCthey're basically a chain of second hand stores that hire handicapped people so they don't have to pay them more than minimum wage.Jun 06 21:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin ya know, i remember when usenet was for *talking* to people ...Jun 06 21:22
DaemonFC"In 2005, Goodwill Industries of the Columbia Willamette (GICW), Goodwill's Portland, Oregon branch, came under scrutiny due to executive compensation that the Oregon attorney general's office concluded was "unreasonable". President Michael Miller received $838,508 in pay and benefits for fiscal year 2004, which was reportedly out of line in comparison to other charity executives and placed him in the top one percent of American wage earners. After bJun 06 21:24
DaemonFCeing confronted with the state's findings, Miller agreed to a 24% reduction in pay, and GICW formed a new committee and policy for handling matters of employee compensation."Jun 06 21:24
DaemonFC-WikipediaJun 06 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard yeah it still is....though not so much now eh? Im still a comp.os.linux.advocacy member and a few others...Jun 06 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard thats "progress"...I suppose.Jun 06 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] #Rockbox has added support for #Sandisk #Sansa #Fuze V2 for their next release. Sweet!Jun 06 21:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin wish there was a phpBB interface to NNTP. might revive it.Jun 06 21:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard I think just like the BT protocol, copyright infringement will now swamp Usenet...its share/risk free...it just all depends ifJun 06 21:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard the mainstream user can work out how a .nzb works. BT was an excellent protocol, its a shame piracy besmirches that.Jun 06 21:31
MinceRhttp://images.4chan.org/b/src/1275855141698.jpg   http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1275855174258.jpg   http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1275855218627.jpgJun 06 21:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How to have a Video telephony using mobile device using open source mobile OS, open standard (like sip) and open source application over 3G?Jun 06 21:33
DaemonFCMinceR, "It won't turn on, let's throw it away and buy a new one"Jun 06 21:35
DaemonFCthe landlord wondered why I have so many computers and gadgetsJun 06 21:36
MinceR:>Jun 06 21:36
DaemonFCpeople leave them out in the trash for shit's sake :PJun 06 21:36
MinceRlolJun 06 21:36
DaemonFCand they still workJun 06 21:36
schestowitz[21:21] <DaemonFC> They took donations for Hurricane Katrina victims and shipped them overseas to sell.Jun 06 21:42
schestowitzGood links?Jun 06 21:42
DaemonFCI saw it on the local news channel back in 2005Jun 06 21:42
DaemonFCit was one of those undercover sweatshop video type dealsJun 06 21:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: post that as a blog comment in techrightsJun 06 21:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard there is a one-way plugin (phpbb-nntp)Jun 06 21:44
schestowitzMinceR: 404s?Jun 06 21:45
DaemonFCAT&T's DNS servers are less than reliableJun 06 21:47
DaemonFCjust once every so often I get a 404 and it's gone if I hit enter again :PJun 06 21:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Randomly clicking around the UI for my Virgin Cable box I discovered the GPL and LGPL which made me chuckle.Jun 06 21:47
MinceRschestowitz: /b/ links age quicklyJun 06 21:48
DaemonFCI don't visit second hand stores that oftenJun 06 21:49
DaemonFCthey have 8 track tapes and clothes that don't fit meJun 06 21:49
DaemonFC:PJun 06 21:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey maybe it was an emacs VirginJun 06 21:49
DaemonFCyou're either short and fat or tall and skinny, it's one or the other, never anything in betweenJun 06 21:50
DaemonFCand if there is, there's 1 pair of it and it costs moreJun 06 21:50
DaemonFCthat's how first level retail stores areJun 06 21:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Penetration of HTML5/Ogg in Video Sharing sites http://post.ly/iegdJun 06 21:50
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DaemonFCimagine looking for 36/34 jeans in a GoodwillJun 06 21:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Israel's transparent lies reach #Canada media like a toxic oil slick. This cannot be tolerated. #freedomflotillaJun 06 21:54
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZr3JWYdy8&feature=relatedJun 06 21:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Re: last tweet, correction, it is ClearChannel retailing Israel's lies, to #Canada.Jun 06 21:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @everydaywitch .@Word_Bandit My favorite Joni Mitchell is "The Big Yellow Taxi" // more poignant every dayJun 06 21:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] DRM explained in simple terms. http://bit.ly/cGcA5n by @mjburnsyJun 06 22:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] As #Xbox360 Abandoned by Managers, Sony Gains, #Microsoft Sued for Faulty #Xbox 360 Hardware, and Bungie Gets Betrayal http://ur1.ca/05um0Jun 06 22:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If anyone doubled the quality of a film released with a CCL you should check out torrent (Best of VODO short films) http://bit.ly/djqFfXJun 06 22:05
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schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10205810.stm "The BBC has revealed 154 web addresses other than bbc.co.uk and bbc.com that it has registered. "Jun 06 22:06
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DaemonFC`hmmmJun 06 22:07
DaemonFC`I can see this may be a problemJun 06 22:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] From the VODO short films, Prebloc has to be my favourite. Free to download/share: http://vodo.net/prebloc Check it out! #free #film #shareJun 06 22:08
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schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/04/bp-goatse.htmlJun 06 22:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Firefox should implement Jingle in Browser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29 #webcam #videochat #ogg #firefoxJun 06 22:11
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schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/01/funny-anti-parkour-s.htmlJun 06 22:12
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schestowitzNice.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/st3f4n/sets/72157616350171741/Jun 06 22:13
TechrightsTitle: Stormtroopers 365 - a set on Flickr .::. Size~: 52.01 KBJun 06 22:13
DaemonFCperfectJun 06 22:13
DaemonFCI should have done that a long time agoJun 06 22:13
DaemonFCghost command on startupJun 06 22:14
DaemonFCTHEN identifyJun 06 22:14
DaemonFCperfectJun 06 22:14
schestowitzhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/olenkaolja/galleries/72157623981936334Jun 06 22:14
TechrightsTitle: Tetris Tetris everywhere - a gallery on Flickr .::. Size~: 79.85 KBJun 06 22:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Kaazing Open Gateway is an open source, full-duplex streaming Web Socket Server, and is the world's first enterprise-http://bit.ly/bGAsyCJun 06 22:14
TechrightsTitle: Home - KAAZING.ORG - Home - Kaazing Gateway .::. Size~: 27.75 KBJun 06 22:14
DaemonFCschestowitz, Tetris has its own cartelJun 06 22:15
DaemonFCdo not feed the cartelJun 06 22:15
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 22:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right....I think im for an early night tonight......Jun 06 22:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Machine is busy seeding the Vodo mixtape....and remember, if you get a minute, check out Prebloc http://vodo.net/prebloc a fantastic film!Jun 06 22:19
TechrightsTitle: VODO: Prebloc (2010) — a film by Gilles Guerraz .::. Size~: 18.61 KBJun 06 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] This is how you can code Googletalk/facebook type Application in JavaScript #html5 #kaazing #javascript #xmpp #codeJun 06 22:21
schestowitzhttp://www.thedelphicfuture.org/2010/06/us-memorial-day-american-and-european.htmlJun 06 22:27
TechrightsTitle: Maison Fleury: US Memorial Day, American and European approaches to patriotism .::. Size~: 55.49 KBJun 06 22:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Good night all....."Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" http://bit.ly/cyyrb8Jun 06 22:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Ace Rimmer, what a guy! - Red Dwarf - BBC comedy .::. Size~: 96.12 KBJun 06 22:28
DaemonFCEurope has already been integrated and brainwashed into a supranational form of patriotism it seemsJun 06 22:29
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0606/idf-admits-doctoring-audio-gaza-flotilla/Jun 06 22:29
TechrightsTitle: IDF admits doctoring audio of raid on Gaza flotilla |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 35.85 KBJun 06 22:29
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0604/kucinich-calls-independent-probe-israeli-raid/Jun 06 22:31
TechrightsTitle: Kucinich calls for independent probe of Israeli raid |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 51.05 KBJun 06 22:31
*DaemonFC knocks schestowitz out with a Zune over the headJun 06 22:32
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 22:32
DaemonFChmm, it is good for somethingJun 06 22:32
schestowitzCavemenJun 06 22:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Nye: "I like you as a whole person. If you separate the elements, I want to kill each one individually."- told him about http://is.gd/cF46j-Jun 06 22:38
TechrightsTitle: is.gd - Forwarding Script .::. Size~: 1.49 KBJun 06 22:38
*DaemonFC pours kerosene on the zune and tosses a match on itJun 06 22:39
DaemonFCI have made fire! GRAW!!!!!!!Jun 06 22:39
*DaemonFC dances around the fire praying to the magic thing in the sky, not the bright hurty thing, the other one.Jun 06 22:40
*MinceR prays to himselfJun 06 22:42
*DaemonFC prays to Joe Pesci cause he looks like a guy that can get things done.Jun 06 22:43
DaemonFCOK, I stolt hat from CarlinJun 06 22:43
DaemonFCbut it was a good oneJun 06 22:43
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 22:43
DaemonFC*stoleJun 06 22:43
MinceR:)Jun 06 22:44
MinceRCarlin ftwJun 06 22:44
DaemonFC"Listen. There are 200 countries in the world now. Do these people honestly think that God is sitting around picking out his favorites? Why would he do that? Why would God have a favorite country? And why would it be America out of all the countries? Because you have the most money? Because he likes our National Anthem? Maybe it's because he heard we have 18 delicious flavors of Classic Rice-A-Roni! It's delusional thinkJun 06 22:45
DaemonFCing! And America is not alone with this sort of delusions. Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side. America prays for God to destroy our enemies. Our enemies pray for God to destroy us. Somebody's gonna be disappointed. Somebody's wasting their fucking time. Could it be... everyone?"Jun 06 22:45
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 22:45
MinceR:>Jun 06 22:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #oauth consumer_secret + consumer_key == I can pretend to be your app => only web-apps are secure => client apps are not. #twitter #failJun 06 22:45
DaemonFCI liked CarlinJun 06 22:46
DaemonFCpeople who really are right all the time piss many people offJun 06 22:46
DaemonFC"    * I call him Governor Bush because that's the only political office he's ever held legally in this country"Jun 06 22:47
DaemonFCanother good oneJun 06 22:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #oauth is a big pile of crap, security wise. If #twitter abandons https basic auth it's a big #failJun 06 22:47
*DaemonFC smacks schestowitz with a Windows Anytime UpgradeJun 06 22:50
DaemonFCUpgrade your Windows 7 to any edition from the one you already have for the same price a Windows XP or Vista user would get it forJun 06 22:50
DaemonFCwhat a stealJun 06 22:50
DaemonFC:PJun 06 22:50
DaemonFCHave Home Premium and need to add some more RAM past16 GB? That'll be $90 if you please!Jun 06 22:51
schestowitzHeheJun 06 22:51
schestowitz"It's a steal"Jun 06 22:51
schestowitzSteelJun 06 22:52
DaemonFCHave Professional and think Bitlocker will do you any good? It's a bargain at only $130!Jun 06 22:52
schestowitzProfessional?Jun 06 22:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a TPM on my motherboard apparentlyJun 06 22:52
schestowitzMine is not "professional"Jun 06 22:52
DaemonFConly Home Premium can't use it at allJun 06 22:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Dr Who receives lawyer's letter for infringing patents on Dalek technology in first BBC Dr Who game. http://is.gd/cF4pRJun 06 22:52
TechrightsTitle: BBC - Doctor Who - The Adventure Games .::. Size~: 17.87 KBJun 06 22:52
schestowitzMine is just 2.6.32-21-genericJun 06 22:53
schestowitzgeneric edition?Jun 06 22:53
DaemonFCgeneric? That doesn't sound like it cost much?Jun 06 22:53
DaemonFCsurely it can't give you HomeGroupJun 06 22:53
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 22:53
schestowitzDamnJun 06 22:53
schestowitzI'll ask for a refund come MondayJun 06 22:53
MinceRit's a steal. what people tend to get wrong is who steals from whom. :>Jun 06 22:55
schestowitz"TechAmerica (TechAmerica) is now following your tweets on Twitter. "Jun 06 22:56
schestowitzThat's the company which I wrote about hours agoJun 06 22:56
schestowitzMicrosoft co-lobbyistJun 06 22:56
*DaemonFC files a patent on "The ability to form thought, complex reasoning skills, logic, emotion, and deductive reasoning by judicious use of chemical neurotransmitters in an organic machine"Jun 06 22:58
*DaemonFC sues everybodyJun 06 22:58
*DaemonFC changes his mind and allows everyone to use their brain for free until 2016 to speed along the transition towards paying himJun 06 22:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'll give you a special deal, $50,000.Jun 06 23:00
DaemonFCIf you think about it, that's a bargainJun 06 23:00
DaemonFCthat could be as little as $500 a year if you live to be 100Jun 06 23:00
DaemonFCthat $50,000 gives you lawsuit indemnificationJun 06 23:01
DaemonFCand peace of mind, literallyJun 06 23:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft ruined XBOX Live the moment they decided to violate their own standing policy of not allowing children under 13 on the networkJun 06 23:05
DaemonFConce they ignored that, the network just totally went to hellJun 06 23:05
MinceRfrom where?Jun 06 23:05
DaemonFCheckJun 06 23:05
DaemonFC:DJun 06 23:05
MinceRlolJun 06 23:05
DaemonFCMinceR, Heck has basic cable and a 1978 console TV with no remote.Jun 06 23:06
DaemonFCclearly better than HellJun 06 23:06
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 23:06
MinceRalso known as Hell Lite™Jun 06 23:07
DaemonFCHeck: Trial Edition, from Microsoft. You can rearm it 3 times before it deactivates and send you to Hell.Jun 06 23:08
schestowitz"Heck Ballmer" would be a good nameJun 06 23:09
schestowitzHecK 7Jun 06 23:10
DaemonFCslmgr.vbs -rearmJun 06 23:10
DaemonFCslmgr.vbp -ipk (key)Jun 06 23:10
DaemonFCslmgr.vbp -ilc (path to OEM certificate)Jun 06 23:10
DaemonFC:PJun 06 23:10
DaemonFCthat was hardJun 06 23:10
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/198059/apple_issuing_lala_refunds_rounding_up.html?tk=rss_newsJun 06 23:11
TechrightsTitle: Apple Issuing Lala Refunds, Rounding up - PCWorld .::. Size~: 63.13 KBJun 06 23:11
MinceRshort strings of random consonants -- this must be winblowsJun 06 23:11
DaemonFCerr, vbsJun 06 23:11
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/03/personal_jobs/Jun 06 23:12
TechrightsTitle: Steve Jobs – Apple's not business, it's personal • The Register .::. Size~: 32.64 KBJun 06 23:12
schestowitzpriesthood?Jun 06 23:12
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> They don't polish turds at MicrosoftJun 06 23:13
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> they drop support for their last unpolished turd and sell you a new unpolished turdJun 06 23:13
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 23:13
DaemonFCWhy is there always a guy in an orange vest standing at the bottom of the ladder in the middle of the street when the phone company is working on the lines? Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy an orange traffic cone or three?Jun 06 23:20
MinceRperhaps so it won't be so easy for someone to walk there and tip the ladderJun 06 23:20
DaemonFC"whoops" That was for the $200 early termination fee.Jun 06 23:21
DaemonFC:PJun 06 23:21
MinceR:>Jun 06 23:21
MinceRor for other safety-related reasonsJun 06 23:21
DaemonFCBush castrated OSHA and gave their balls in a jelly jar to the companies who flagrantly violate workplace safety laws. So why do they care how many linesmen get ran over?Jun 06 23:22
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/03/bank_jobs_tax/Jun 06 23:22
TechrightsTitle: Britain's bank slashes tech jobs • The Register .::. Size~: 31.65 KBJun 06 23:22
MinceRcould be company regulationsJun 06 23:23
MinceRor something that was left overJun 06 23:23
DaemonFCnow we have Bush with a darker skin toneJun 06 23:24
DaemonFCso much for votingJun 06 23:25
MinceR:>Jun 06 23:26
MinceRno, you have another puppet for the same megacorpsJun 06 23:26
DaemonFCschestowitz, I used to use Trend Micro PC-CillinJun 06 23:29
DaemonFCwhen my dad had a site license from Thomson :PJun 06 23:29
DaemonFCI borrowed the serial :)Jun 06 23:29
DaemonFCit actually saved me from the Chernobyl virusJun 06 23:29
DaemonFCapparently a copy of the virus went out in an EB Games demo disc in 1998Jun 06 23:30
DaemonFC:PJun 06 23:30
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/eS9VK?fullJun 06 23:30
TechrightsTitle: imgur: The Simple Image Sharer .::. Size~: 9.62 KBJun 06 23:30
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/02/oil.spill.firefox.blacks.out.bp.mashable/index.htmlJun 06 23:33
TechrightsTitle: Oil spill Firefox plugin blacks out BP across the Web - CNN.com .::. Size~: 34.93 KBJun 06 23:33
schestowitz[23:29] <DaemonFC> I borrowed the serial :)Jun 06 23:33
schestowitzBorrows?Jun 06 23:33
schestowitz'Steals'?Jun 06 23:33
schestowitzLends?Jun 06 23:33
DaemonFCborrowingJun 06 23:33
DaemonFCI'll give it right back when I'm done with itJun 06 23:34
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 23:34
schestowitz"I only need this for one minute"Jun 06 23:34
schestowitz"Then I'm done"Jun 06 23:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] @_Goblin Faster Broadband? Ever play Tradewars 2002? Without a highspeed connection you are TOAST!Jun 06 23:34
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1652081/foxconn-sweat-shopJun 06 23:35
schestowitz"Jobs said that he found reports that Foxconn employees were throwing themselves off high buildings rather than working on Apple gadgets deeply disturbing. After all people who work for Apple stores are happy to work for peanuts in an autocratic environment just for the privilege of touching a slice of Jobs' Dream. We guess he thought the Chinese would be the same."Jun 06 23:35
TechrightsTitle:                     Foxconn is not a sweat shop  - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 74.85 KBJun 06 23:35
schestowitzThe Inquirer puts it nicelyJun 06 23:35
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/197791/foxconn_says_pay_raises_in_china_not_about_suicides.html?tk=rss_newsJun 06 23:37
MinceR:)Jun 06 23:37
TechrightsTitle: Foxconn Says Pay Raises in China Not About Suicides - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.8 KBJun 06 23:37
schestowitz"Stop jumping from buildings, build some more shiny-shinies for Jobs and his homies.."Jun 06 23:37
tessierI think this says more about Chinese culture than anything else.Jun 06 23:37
DaemonFCipods and Kathy Lee Gifford handbagsJun 06 23:37
DaemonFCnow at WalmartJun 06 23:37
DaemonFCjust don't ask where they came fromJun 06 23:37
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 23:37
tessierThey have a tendency to do stuff like that. I've had friends...Jun 06 23:37
schestowitzSuicide?Jun 06 23:38
tessierYepJun 06 23:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, Those knock offs on ebay are superior to the actual ipodJun 06 23:38
schestowitzYes, my Chinese girlfriend told me thatJun 06 23:38
DaemonFCyou DO know that, right?Jun 06 23:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 23:38
tessierI had a Chinese girlfriend who took a bunch of sleeping pills...Jun 06 23:38
schestowitzAnd....?Jun 06 23:38
tessierShe survived. Barely. Jun 06 23:38
tessierShe had more issues than anyone realized.Jun 06 23:38
schestowitzOuch. Sorry to hear it.Jun 06 23:39
tessierThey are good at hiding it.Jun 06 23:39
MinceRgnJun 06 23:39
schestowitzMinceR: too many pills?Jun 06 23:39
MinceRnopeJun 06 23:39
schestowitzWell, I hope you'll survive the nightJun 06 23:39
DaemonFCmore women attempt suicide than men, but more men succeedJun 06 23:40
cubezzzlife is short enoughJun 06 23:40
DaemonFCbecause women are less likely to choose methods that will actually kill themJun 06 23:40
cubezzzno need to shorten it moreJun 06 23:40
DaemonFCmen tend to hang or shoot themselvedJun 06 23:40
DaemonFCwomen tend to try things like sleeping pillsJun 06 23:41
schestowitzWhat do women do?Jun 06 23:41
schestowitzDrew case had the girl hangJun 06 23:41
schestowitzCrafty for someone her ageJun 06 23:41
DaemonFCI didn't say that no women hang or shoot themselvesJun 06 23:41
DaemonFCit's just less commonJun 06 23:41
DaemonFCmen are conditioned by society to be more violentJun 06 23:41
schestowitzHow do you know?Jun 06 23:42
DaemonFCthat's probably why they choose violent suicide methodsJun 06 23:42
schestowitz[About what's common]Jun 06 23:42
tessierConditioned by society or naturally mnore violent?Jun 06 23:42
tessierIt is accepted that testosterone makes men more aggressive.Jun 06 23:42
DaemonFCtessier, naturally prone, but conditioning magnifies the effectJun 06 23:42
DaemonFCI'd argue that more of it is conditioningJun 06 23:42
MinceRschestowitz: i'm not chineseJun 06 23:42
schestowitzIt's a tricky issueJun 06 23:42
cubezzzwow MinceR, your sleep is very brief!Jun 06 23:43
schestowitzMinceR: maybe the mogol hordes raped your grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-grand-motherJun 06 23:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/moovida-core-media-player-is-banshee.htmlJun 06 23:43
TechrightsTitle: Moovida core media player is banshee with ads | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 67.5 KBJun 06 23:43
schestowitz*mongolJun 06 23:43
DaemonFCtessier, hormonal tendencies can steer you to qa certain behavior, but the higher mind can veto that same behaviorJun 06 23:43
DaemonFCpeople are conditioned to not overrule that violent instinctJun 06 23:43
cubezzzhow does that work?Jun 06 23:44
DaemonFCin other words, society isn't helping the situationJun 06 23:44
MinceRcubezzz: indeed it's shorter than i'd likeJun 06 23:44
cubezzzviolent movies?Jun 06 23:44
DaemonFCeverything around us suggests the violence is the answer to more violenceJun 06 23:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/banshee-getting-full-ipodiphone-support.htmlJun 06 23:44
TechrightsTitle: Banshee getting full iPod/iPhone support  could still become Maverick default? | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 63.34 KBJun 06 23:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah, because of Novell guy ^Jun 06 23:45
cubezzzviolence never seems to workJun 06 23:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: or not, but there hackfestJun 06 23:45
cubezzzI've never accomplished anything good when angryJun 06 23:45
MinceRyou aren't using enough of it thenJun 06 23:45
*Chips_B_Malroy (~b80104e8@gateway/web/freenode/x-zyperpefhcacbndf) has joined #boycottnovellJun 06 23:45
MinceRthought for the day: "Violence solves everything."Jun 06 23:45
DaemonFCiWinbuntuJun 06 23:45
*MinceR disappearsJun 06 23:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: annual hack weekJun 06 23:46
cubezzzI've noticed that some people do have poor impulse controlJun 06 23:46
cubezzzget angry very easilyJun 06 23:46
DaemonFCCrapple emulation using Monoposoft technologies on LinuxJun 06 23:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: I know you don't care much about Banshee, but if there is already what is basically a propritary version for Windows, the first link,  then I guess it will be ported over to Windows soon and if it gets ported to Windows it will go to Mac as well I guess, but those versions won't use Mono?Jun 06 23:47
cubezzzI had to work on doze today :-/Jun 06 23:47
DaemonFCMasturbating MonkeyJun 06 23:47
DaemonFCadjective and an animalJun 06 23:47
tessierWanking Weasel, Choking Chicken, etc. Ubuntu has lots of great options.Jun 06 23:49
tessierAlthough I really wish everyone would just stick with version numbers.Jun 06 23:49
DaemonFCtessier, I liked Ubuntu when it was just really more of an updated DebianJun 06 23:50
cubezzzthe way Fedora works is fineJun 06 23:50
tessierJerking Jackalope, Spanking SpiderJun 06 23:50
DaemonFCbut they really lost me with 9.10Jun 06 23:50
DaemonFC6.10 was a good releaseJun 06 23:50
DaemonFC7.04 was when Ubuntu started going southJun 06 23:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz two-way fidelity would be *way* interestingJun 06 23:51
cubezzzI've tried a lot of things but nothing seemed idealJun 06 23:51
cubezzzmy modified fc1 is pretty good thoughJun 06 23:52
DaemonFCI still call bullshitJun 06 23:52
Chips_B_Malroy<cubezzz> my modified fc1 is pretty good though"  what would be interesting is a virtualbox vdi with old linux running wordperfect/Corel Photopaint, and some loki loaders.Jun 06 23:53
cubezzzI'm trying to build a "perfect" systemJun 06 23:53
cubezzzsee, this is one thing AmigaOS has over LinuxJun 06 23:54
cubezzzit's more tightly integrated to the hardware, and can squeeze a bit more performance out of itJun 06 23:55
cubezzzsome even look down at LinuxJun 06 23:55
schestowitz[23:50] <DaemonFC> 6.10 was a good releaseJun 06 23:55
schestowitzEDGY was notoriousJun 06 23:55
tessiercubezzz: Not really a useful distinction to make though.Jun 06 23:55
tessiercubezzz: There was no competition for Amiga hardware. It was sole-sourced. Anyone could pick a particular hardware platform and tightly integrate Linux with it if they wanted t o.Jun 06 23:56
cubezzzthat's trueJun 06 23:56
tessierApple has the same situation as Amiga does today.Jun 06 23:56
tessierYes, it's great. The software Just Works.Jun 06 23:57
cubezzzclosed source thoughJun 06 23:57
tessierAlas, it is proprietary, expensive, locked in, lacks freedom, etc. etc.Jun 06 23:57
cubezzzwell, I'm going to dual boot with AROS on my next machineJun 06 23:57
tessierI am still optimistically looking forward to the oncoming onslaught of ARM processors.Jun 06 23:57
cubezzznano note looked interestingJun 06 23:58
DaemonFCschestowitz, worked fine for meJun 06 23:58
Chips_B_MalroyRoy, nice xbox360 article, btw.  I think the reason Bach and Allard had to go, was Sony sales was the final straw for Bach, and Kin failure for Allard.  Windows Phone 7 vaporware, is already stillborn, is why Ballmer is now "in charge."  Natal is a joke, Ballmer must have figured that one out too.Jun 06 23:58
Chips_B_Malroyin both cases, there had to be a straw that broke the monkey boys back.Jun 06 23:59

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