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| MinceR | afaik crApple software doesn't really just work | Jun 07 00:00 |
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| cubezzz | I never got into Apple stuff | Jun 07 00:01 |
| cubezzz | I remember when the Apple II's came out | Jun 07 00:01 |
| cubezzz | the rich kids got those, and everyone else got c64's :) | Jun 07 00:02 |
| cubezzz | or vic-20 even | Jun 07 00:02 |
| cubezzz | it had a proper expansion bus, which was better | Jun 07 00:02 |
| cubezzz | the first PC with an MMU would be interesting to know | Jun 07 00:04 |
| tessier | I would guess 286 | Jun 07 00:06 |
| cubezzz | but the 286 seemed to have some major limitation | Jun 07 00:06 |
| cubezzz | I forget what it was exactly | Jun 07 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Why do most bloggers call Apple an Hardware company? Do Apple actually manufacture anything anymore? Isn't Foxconn, Inventec, and Asus that make all their stuff for them in Chinese sweatboxes? | Jun 07 00:07 |
| tessier | The first of anything is usually limited | Jun 07 00:07 |
| cubezzz | there was Xenix 286 | Jun 07 00:07 |
| tessier | Apple designs ti | Jun 07 00:07 |
| tessier | Those places ajust run off copies | Jun 07 00:07 |
| cubezzz | 68451 MMU could be used with the Motorola 68010 | Jun 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | but what PC had that | Jun 07 00:09 |
| tessier | The Mac had a 68k cpu before the PPC | Jun 07 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Every notice how Ballmer comes out and gives interviews when he is trying to cover up bad news for the company. | Jun 07 00:09 |
| tessier | 68k was a good CPU | Jun 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | yeah I owned an Amiga 500 | Jun 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | around 1987-1988 | Jun 07 00:10 |
| cubezzz | I never realized the 286 had an MMU | Jun 07 00:10 |
| cubezzz | see, I don't recall any hobbyist running Unix on 286 | Jun 07 00:13 |
| cubezzz | I know it was probably possible... but no one seemed to bother | Jun 07 00:13 |
| tessier | Hobbyist? No. But there were lots of Xenix and SCO Unix on 286 | Jun 07 00:13 |
| tessier | Unix was not free in the days of 286 so no hobbyists | Jun 07 00:14 |
| tessier | Unix did not require an MMU btw | Jun 07 00:14 |
| cubezzz | I had a 286 pretty early too | Jun 07 00:14 |
| cubezzz | some BBS guys ran 286 | Jun 07 00:15 |
| cubezzz | no? | Jun 07 00:15 |
| cubezzz | yeah, there was Venix for XT | Jun 07 00:15 |
| cubezzz | but I never thought of it as proper Unix | Jun 07 00:15 |
| tessier | Yes. I think I did also. Or maybe 486 by that time, not sure | Jun 07 00:15 |
| tessier | It was a proper and state of the art Unix | Jun 07 00:15 |
| tessier | They did not have MMU and protected memory etc in 1969 when Unix was invented. | Jun 07 00:16 |
| cubezzz | yeah I owned a 286 around the same time I had the Amiga 500 | Jun 07 00:16 |
| cubezzz | 1987-1988 period | Jun 07 00:16 |
| tessier | And would not have it for quite a fwe more yeras. | Jun 07 00:16 |
| cubezzz | ah interesting | Jun 07 00:16 |
| cubezzz | pretty sure they did by the 1970's though | Jun 07 00:17 |
| tessier | Maybe in the high end hardware | Jun 07 00:17 |
| tessier | IBM msiIBM mainframes etc | Jun 07 00:17 |
| tessier | oops...I am on a really slow connection. Typing is hard. | Jun 07 00:17 |
| tessier | Not sure why it is suddenly slo slow. | Jun 07 00:18 |
| cubezzz | tessier, what are these weird characters you're using? | Jun 07 00:18 |
| cubezzz | I see triangles | Jun 07 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I do like the icon for Vorbis that Foobar2000 gives in Windows | Jun 07 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 00:18 |
| tessier | I am just using ASCII afaik | Jun 07 00:19 |
| cubezzz | no one else sees triangles? | Jun 07 00:19 |
| cubezzz | strange | Jun 07 00:19 |
| cubezzz | tessier, did Multics run on a bunch of different hardware or was it just one type of machine? | Jun 07 00:20 |
| cubezzz | it was before C language, yes? | Jun 07 00:20 |
| tessier | Just one machine afaik | Jun 07 00:21 |
| tessier | It wasn't written i | Jun 07 00:21 |
| tessier | n C so not portable | Jun 07 00:21 |
| cubezzz | some interesting points about 286 here: | Jun 07 00:22 |
| cubezzz | http://www.openwatcom.org/index.php/A20_Line | Jun 07 00:22 |
| Techrights | Title: A20 Line - Open Watcom .::. Size~: 18.71 KB | Jun 07 00:22 |
| tessier | I read that declassified report on early NSA computers a couple weeks ago and ended up reading a lot about the IBM 705 and other early mainframes. Neat stuff. | Jun 07 00:25 |
| tessier | Hardware was actually comprehensible back then | Jun 07 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7671/ogg.png | Jun 07 00:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 07 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 00:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah I remember you talking about IBM 701 | Jun 07 00:26 |
| cubezzz | I think it was 701 | Jun 07 00:26 |
| cubezzz | I wonder if any of them still work :) | Jun 07 00:26 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microport | Jun 07 00:28 |
| tessier | I doubt it. I want to build my own relay computer. | Jun 07 00:28 |
| Techrights | Title: Microport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.01 KB | Jun 07 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | heh, my Sansa does not support XPSF with Vorbis files | Jun 07 00:28 |
| tessier | web.cecs.pdx.edu/~harry/Relay/ | Jun 07 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I have to use M3U | Jun 07 00:28 |
| cubezzz | tessier, I assume you have looked at other homebrew efforts? | Jun 07 00:29 |
| tessier | Yes. | Jun 07 00:30 |
| tessier | But the idea is not to build a capable computer. | Jun 07 00:30 |
| tessier | The idea is to build something very fundamental that people can understand. | Jun 07 00:30 |
| cubezzz | why stop at relays when you can use gears? :) | Jun 07 00:30 |
| tessier | Because relays are easier to work with. | Jun 07 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | "slotMusic Cards | Jun 07 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | slotMusic™ is a versatile new physical music format for the 21st Century." | Jun 07 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Whoa, MP3 on a MicroSD card | Jun 07 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | far out dude! | Jun 07 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 00:31 |
| cubezzz | first 32-bit Unix: | Jun 07 00:31 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Computer_Systems | Jun 07 00:31 |
| Techrights | Title: AT&T Computer Systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 37.23 KB | Jun 07 00:31 |
| cubezzz | for PC I think | Jun 07 00:31 |
| cubezzz | tessier, for your relay computer will you have a teleprinter, or some kind of screen? | Jun 07 00:33 |
| tessier | no | Jun 07 00:34 |
| tessier | Nothing but good ol' fashioned blinkenlights | Jun 07 00:34 |
| cubezzz | ah :) | Jun 07 00:34 |
| cubezzz | I think I'd use FPGAs :) | Jun 07 00:39 |
| tessier | You can't demonstrate to a layman how FPGA's work. | Jun 07 00:39 |
| tessier | You can easily demonstrate a relay. | Jun 07 00:39 |
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| cubezzz | how much money do you think you need to build your relay computer? | Jun 07 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | that woman downstairs has some great kids | Jun 07 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they've had their rabies shots | Jun 07 00:49 |
| tessier | cubezzz: Not sure. I think Harry mentioned the price for his on there somewhere. A few hundred dollars maybe. Relays are very expensive on a per-gate basis compared to integrated circuits. :) | Jun 07 00:50 |
| tessier | That's why computers back in the day were so much money for so little power. | Jun 07 00:50 |
| tessier | I think I would start small. Just build some simple logic gates. A few bits of memory. Then build a full adder, then a few bytes of memory and a bus to switch things around, ec. | Jun 07 00:51 |
| tessier | etc. | Jun 07 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | those kids are so damned lucky they aren't mine | Jun 07 00:52 |
| tessier | What kids? | Jun 07 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'd teach them some manners one way or another | Jun 07 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | the ones downstairs half naked on the back deck | Jun 07 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | climbing on the rails | Jun 07 00:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364708,00.asp | Jun 07 00:53 |
| Techrights | Title: Report: Microsoft Could Buy AOL | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 73.74 KB | Jun 07 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Gonad The Barbarian (former stepdad) has me watch his criminally insane grandson once | Jun 07 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up hog tying him to get him to stop fucking with my things | Jun 07 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | told him he could stay there until he apologized and agreed not to stuff cheese slices in my laptop's disc drive anymore | Jun 07 00:55 |
| cubezzz | how old? | Jun 07 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | like 9 I think | Jun 07 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | at that time | Jun 07 00:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer actually ownes 4% of the MS Stock according to comments on Mini MSFT. Couple with Bill's 8% you can see why its hard to get rid of Ballmer. | Jun 07 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I hate kids, everyone thinks their misbehaving spawn of the devil is just the most innocent little creature that's ever lived | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | WHY!?!? | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | If I dared to act half as awful as those kids I would have gotten the belt | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | whatever happened to the belt? | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | take off your belt and fucking use it | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | damn | Jun 07 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | gahhh!!!! | Jun 07 00:58 |
| cubezzz | I didn't even get the belt and I'm probably the oldest here :) | Jun 07 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | the belt | Jun 07 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | best tool ever | Jun 07 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | for correcting bad behavior | Jun 07 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | of course that black lady beating her kid over the head with a laof of bread in Walmart had me in stitches | Jun 07 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | that was definitely inventive use of bread | Jun 07 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | I wish I had a cell phone that could record that at that time | Jun 07 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | that would have been killer Youtube fodder | Jun 07 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I would put on the most offensive music I have, but that would probably attract more of them | Jun 07 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | if the parents were any sort of decent, they would evacuate their kids from the area | Jun 07 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 01:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/10-Reasons-Why-Android-Is-Making-Google-the-Next-Apple-211191/ a fair read | Jun 07 01:06 |
| Techrights | Title: 10 Reasons Why Android Is Making Google the Next Apple - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek .::. Size~: 125.57 KB | Jun 07 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | yes, reward the satan spawn with pizza | Jun 07 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | that'll show them to tear shit up and run around screaming | Jun 07 01:10 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.mysmartrend.com/news-briefs/news-watch/earnings-look-back-microsoft-down-1784-reporting-quarterly-results-43-days-ag "Since the company's report, share of Microsoft have fallen from $31.39 to $25.79, representing a loss of 17.84% in the past 43 days. SmarTrend is bearish on shares of Microsoft and our subscribers were alerted to Sell on May 06, 2010 at $28.90. The stock has fallen 10.7% since the alert w | Jun 07 01:12 |
| Techrights | Title: Earnings Look Back: Microsoft Is Down 17.84% Since Reporting Quarterly Results 43 Days Ago (MSFT) | Comtex SmarTrend .::. Size~: 21.39 KB | Jun 07 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/microsoft-stops-paying-us-to-use-bing/960 | Jun 07 01:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft stops paying us to use Bing | ZDNet .::. Size~: 101.15 KB | Jun 07 01:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They could never pay me enough to use MSN, whoops, Windows Live, Kumo, or is it Bing? Quick, whats it called this week??? | Jun 07 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | "One more Critical Success Factor: fire Ballmer. Really." | Jun 07 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 07 01:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The name was changed to fool those who had already tried it. | Jun 07 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | of course | Jun 07 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Safari is peddling Bing now too | Jun 07 01:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Try it again, see new name= new product built from the ground up, maybe. | Jun 07 01:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Yes, Apple is being paid | Jun 07 01:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So Ballmer is trying to buy more market share, as his product truely sucks. | Jun 07 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is conspiring with Microsoft's Screw Google plans | Jun 07 01:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Android phones are now selling more than Iphones | Jun 07 01:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is why | Jun 07 01:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | can't beat them, try to destroy them. They learned that from Bill | Jun 07 01:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I did notice that Frys Electronics knocked off $100 on the price of a Mac laptop, which made it $899. If sales on Apple laptops start reducing price, this will impact Wintel OEM's too. | Jun 07 01:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.pcworld.com/article/197181/indonesia_india_offers_better_prospects_than_china_ms_says.html "Microsoft sees better opportunities in Indonesia and India than it does in China due to "very, very low" protection for intellectual property in China, Microsoft's chief executive said Wednesday." | Jun 07 01:33 |
| Techrights | Title: Indonesia, India Offers Better Prospects Than China, MS Says - PCWorld .::. Size~: 67.18 KB | Jun 07 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "China is set to surpass the U.S. this year as the largest PC market by units shipped, but Microsoft earns a fraction of the revenue in China that it does elsewhere, said Steve Ballmer, chief executive of Microsoft, who spoke to reporters in Singapore on Wednesday as part of a trip through Southeast Asia. "Something like 15 to 20 percent of the world's computers will get bought in China. China will represent for Mi | Jun 07 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "That's not to say that software piracy isn't an issue in India or Indonesia. According to the Business Software Alliance's latest study of global piracy, which was released earlier this month, India and Indonesia had estimated piracy rates of 65 percent and 86 percent, respectively, in 2009. China's 2009 piracy rate was estimated to be 79 percent." | Jun 07 01:35 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't get it, why is indonesai better than China for M$? 86 vs 79 percent piracy rate, seems that china is less? This seems more like a high pressure tactic by a used car salesman to get China to do something. | Jun 07 01:37 |
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| DaemonFC | "We do NOT tolerate discrimination on the grounds of race, religion, gender, sexual preference or other lifestyle choice" -Freenode network policy | Jun 07 01:49 |
| *DaemonFC was unawae that race, gender, and sexual orientation were all choices | Jun 07 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC | *unaware | Jun 07 01:49 |
| *DaemonFC knew about the religion part | Jun 07 01:49 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225200043&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News "In the first nine months of Microsoft's 2010 fiscal year, hardware and hardware-related sales were down 5% year-over-year, to $6.5 billion. Xbox and PC game revenue fell 5% during that period, while Windows Mobile and Zune revenue was off 4%." | Jun 07 03:01 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Flops Stir Shakeup Talk -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 84.27 KB | Jun 07 03:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "But after less than two months on the market, KIN already appears to be a bust. Initial reviews were tepid, at best, and Amazon recently cut its price for the more advance KIN Two by 50%, and it's giving away KIN One for a penny for customers who sign up for a service contract" | Jun 07 03:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so now its both Amazon and Best Buy dumping Kin phones | Jun 07 03:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Adding to the chaos at Microsoft's hardware group is the fact that long-time partner Hewlett-Packard appears ready to go it alone after agreeing to purchase Palm, and its WebOS technology, for $1.2 billion last month. Shortly after the deal was announced, word leaked that HP cancelled plans for a Windows 7-powered tablet that was supposed to challenge the iPad. " | Jun 07 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/51160.html | Jun 07 03:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Monty - Ogg and WebM technical alert: default FFmpeg Vorbis encoder is broken .::. Size~: 36.22 KB | Jun 07 03:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | wait | Jun 07 03:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I didnt see that url | Jun 07 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Why exactly are x264 developers shouting loudly that WebM violates patents? | Jun 07 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | are there conflicts of interest here? | Jun 07 03:19 |
| ender2070 | they hate webm | Jun 07 03:20 |
| ender2070 | biased opinions | Jun 07 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | why? | Jun 07 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're working on VLC, right? | Jun 07 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | it stands to reason that they'll support VP8 in VLC eventually anyway | Jun 07 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | then what? | Jun 07 03:21 |
| ender2070 | huh? | Jun 07 03:21 |
| ender2070 | what does vlc have to do with it | Jun 07 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's part of the VLC project | Jun 07 03:22 |
| ender2070 | VP8? | Jun 07 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | x264 | Jun 07 03:23 |
| ender2070 | I would say x264 violates patents | Jun 07 03:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | x264 doesnt violate patents | Jun 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | apparently they have h264 patent license | Jun 07 03:24 |
| ender2070 | bingo | Jun 07 03:24 |
| ender2070 | thats why they hate webm | Jun 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | and no one is quite entirely sure how they got it either | Jun 07 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | because they're safe? | Jun 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sure as hell didnt pay for it | Jun 07 03:24 |
| ender2070 | if webm takes off, they'll feel stupid | Jun 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | monty is almost dead sure x264 is working for MPEG now | Jun 07 03:24 |
| ender2070 | if they didnt pay for it, it could've been given to them for publicity for the format | Jun 07 03:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | see above | Jun 07 03:24 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 07 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | so x264 isn't a bona fide FOSS project | Jun 07 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | because if you redistributew it, you're in trouble | Jun 07 03:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Canadian Official Admits Last Copyright Bill Was About Keeping US Diplomats Happy http://techdirt.com/articles/20100604/0048229684.shtml | Jun 07 03:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: Canadian Official Admits Last Copyright Bill Was Solely About Keeping US Diplomats Happy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.27 KB | Jun 07 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | or is it if you modify and redistribute it you're in trouble:? | Jun 07 03:26 |
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| ender2070 | im not familiar enough with this | Jun 07 03:27 |
| ender2070 | sounds like x264 is in bed with MPEG though | Jun 07 03:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're a bunch of dicks anyhow | Jun 07 03:27 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 03:27 |
| ender2070 | if anyone bashes webm, they're dicks | Jun 07 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.j5live.com/2010/05/21/lets-get-this-staight-mpeg-las-and-x264-developers/ | Jun 07 03:28 |
| Techrights | Title: J5s Blog » Lets get this staight MPEG-LAs and an x264 developers sabre rattling is pure FUD .::. Size~: 40.24 KB | Jun 07 03:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | only problem is | Jun 07 03:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Google is a bunch of dumbfucks | Jun 07 03:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | they use ffmpeg's vorbis encoder | Jun 07 03:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, ffmpeg has a vorbis encoder. no, it doesnt work right. | Jun 07 03:29 |
| ender2070 | I was reading that today | Jun 07 03:33 |
| ender2070 | monty said it was broken | Jun 07 03:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, its really broken | Jun 07 03:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | google needs to quit using ffmpeg for encoding | Jun 07 03:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | also iirc ffmpeg can use libvorbisenc anyhow | Jun 07 03:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | you just have to compile it to do so | Jun 07 03:35 |
| ender2070 | ahh | Jun 07 03:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | but why the fuck does ffmpeg even HAVE a fucking vorbis encoder | Jun 07 03:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | fucking dumbfucks. | Jun 07 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/shopping-for-an-ipad-bring-some-rubber-gloves.html | Jun 07 03:47 |
| Techrights | Title: Shopping For An iPad? Bring Some Rubber Gloves - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 47.39 KB | Jun 07 03:47 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I wonder, doesn't the next MS quarter come out near the end of this month? It shouldn't be a good one. | Jun 07 03:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itS9eyO9JLs | Jun 07 03:51 |
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| Diablo-D3 | an autotuned warren buffet | Jun 07 03:51 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Geico commercial featuring Warren Buffet autotuned http://ur1.ca/05vyu #wtf | Jun 07 03:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Metal%27s_not_dead.jpg | Jun 07 03:55 |
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| DaemonFC | Geico is cheap | Jun 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | as car insurance goes | Jun 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Progressive is for alcoholics | Jun 07 03:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Zune had to be the first thing to be cut. | Jun 07 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Progressive doesn't really ding you much for having DUIs | Jun 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | so all the drunks go to them | Jun 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | at least until they have their license revoked | Jun 07 03:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | never found Geico to be cheap | Jun 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | then they drive with no license, no insurance, and drunk | Jun 07 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | You don't need a license to drive | Jun 07 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | you need a license when you get pulled over | Jun 07 03:58 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jun 07 03:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> you need a license when you get pulled over" here in Nevada you can ride a scooter with less than 50cc engine without regristation, plates, or insurance legally, not sure about a licence | Jun 07 03:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Neighbor had one | Jun 07 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | DUI Harlety | Jun 07 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | *Harley | Jun 07 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, whenever you see someone over 18 on a scooter in Indiana, you know they've had 4 DUIs | Jun 07 04:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | with the nieghbor down the street, most likely | Jun 07 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | they can still get a State ID wheich is all you need for a moped | Jun 07 04:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | might be the same here, don't know for sure | Jun 07 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | my next door neighbor is paying over $200 a month for PLPD because of her DUIs | Jun 07 04:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one think for sure, in the USA, without a car or a licence, in most places you are dead | Jun 07 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much | Jun 07 04:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | PLPD? | Jun 07 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | minimum legal car insurance | Jun 07 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's is 25/50/10 | Jun 07 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | $25,000 per person, $50,000 per accident for bodily injury | Jun 07 04:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | those mopeds ok in the snow there? | Jun 07 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | and $10,000 property damage | Jun 07 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | not really, but people do it | Jun 07 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | seldom snows here | Jun 07 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, unless it gets REAL nasty | Jun 07 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | then you better hope you have provisions to ride it out for several days | Jun 07 04:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, I remember what the northeast was like | Jun 07 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | when winter is coming I start to horde things | Jun 07 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | like personal items, canned food, etc. | Jun 07 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | not only might the car break down, but I don't want to go outside in that shit | Jun 07 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | you get a good freezing rain here a few times every winter | Jun 07 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | and your car is under 2 inches of solid ice | Jun 07 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | you're not going anywhere | Jun 07 04:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | icestorms are the worst | Jun 07 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | at least not anytime soon | Jun 07 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | people goign to work at 6 start their car at 4 | Jun 07 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I remember the power went out for 6 hours one day last winter | Jun 07 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | when it came back on, the cable was still out for at least the better part of the next day | Jun 07 04:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | glad I am here and miss all of that | Jun 07 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | then in the summer it gets in the 90s and 100s | Jun 07 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | jsut to fuck with us | Jun 07 04:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | except for the job situation its truely nice here | Jun 07 04:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | except for summer | Jun 07 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | most of the really high unemployment states are the ones that tax the shit out of everything to hand out welfare left and right | Jun 07 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | like California | Jun 07 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | and Michigan | Jun 07 04:08 |
| amarsh04 | for Diablo-D3: ldd `which ffmpeg`|grep vorbis | Jun 07 04:08 |
| amarsh04 | libvorbisenc.so.2 => /usr/lib/libvorbisenc.so.2 (0x4182e000) | Jun 07 04:08 |
| amarsh04 | libvorbis.so.0 => /usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0 (0x41eb8000) | Jun 07 04:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 106 F today here | Jun 07 04:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | amarsh04: yours is just compiled with that option | Jun 07 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, Michigan is dying and Indiana is getting many jobs due to companies adding 3rd shifts here | Jun 07 04:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no personal income tax in Nevada | Jun 07 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | so we're actually doing pretty good at their expense | Jun 07 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's cheaper to add a 3rd shift here than it is to run two separate plants in two states | Jun 07 04:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | people do not have money to come here and gamble | Jun 07 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | and Michigan taxing the hell out of businesses tips the balance of where companies take the jobs | Jun 07 04:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Did Romney have something to do with that? | Jun 07 04:11 |
| amarsh04 | yes, but at least that is default for Debian [multimedia] | Jun 07 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, Anyone fucking stupid enough to put money in a rigged video poker machine deserves whatever they get | Jun 07 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | they let someone win everyso often to make a shill out of them | Jun 07 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the only time someone wins | Jun 07 04:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> Chips_B_Malroy, Anyone fucking stupid enough to put money in a rigged video poker machine deserves whatever they get" well of course, how do you think they built those shiny casino's? by letting people win? | Jun 07 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Jun 07 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd still ike to visit though, not gamble | Jun 07 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | but they have some attractions | Jun 07 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's how they rope people in to gamble | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 04:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The buffets are pretty good, most of them | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | buffets, shows, the grand canyon is close | Jun 07 04:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a few still have deals on shows | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | prostitution is legal | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | cheap booze | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | and gambling :D | Jun 07 04:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> prostitution is legal | Jun 07 04:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no its not | Jun 07 04:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not in Vegas | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | state regulated prostitution is legal there, right? | Jun 07 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | oh, outside of Vegas then? | Jun 07 04:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but a 45 minute bus ride it is | Jun 07 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | mmhm | Jun 07 04:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | NW of town | Jun 07 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | just far away enough to keep it family friendly | Jun 07 04:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | lots of escort services, and paper all over the strip | Jun 07 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirque_du_Soleil | Jun 07 04:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Cirque du Soleil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 178.6 KB | Jun 07 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | I want to see them | Jun 07 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, my mom went there with Gonad The Barbarian (ex husband) back in 2007 | Jun 07 04:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they recently made them pay papers, in newspaper like enclosures, before the papers were free | Jun 07 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | said every corner someone was shoving porn in his hands | Jun 07 04:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | think the city did that | Jun 07 04:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | on the strip yes | Jun 07 04:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | las vegas boulivard | Jun 07 04:16 |
| cubezzz | tessier, some folks got a pdp-11 to play around with | Jun 07 04:16 |
| cubezzz | not sure how much though | Jun 07 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, Alcohol, cheap, and lots of it | Jun 07 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's how they loosen you up | Jun 07 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | if they can get you to hand over all your money by getting a few shots in you, they'll do it | Jun 07 04:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> Chips_B_Malroy, Alcohol, cheap, and lots of it" No its free if you are playing. Or as when I used to work in the casinos, "its complimentary, its not really free." | Jun 07 04:18 |
| cubezzz | The supply has a rated input of 12 Amps at 120 Volts - that runs the CPU only, not the disk drives which have their own power supplies! | Jun 07 04:18 |
| cubezzz | old computers needed lots of power | Jun 07 04:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and lots of air con too | Jun 07 04:19 |
| cubezzz | I can see why no one usually bothers keeping them | Jun 07 04:20 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDevelopers#p/u/9/jgVhBThJdXc | Jun 07 04:20 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- GoogleDevelopers's Channel .::. Size~: 63.63 KB | Jun 07 04:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | A few years back, some of the casino's would pump oxogen into the air to increase the time your would be able to stay awake by about 15 minutes per day | Jun 07 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 07 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | cool | Jun 07 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, Yeah, when I worked in a nursing home, I'd give myself a shot of oxygen sometimes | Jun 07 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | to wake up :) | Jun 07 04:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not sure any do that any more. Yes it made you feel good. more energy. until you went home, and were really tired then. | Jun 07 04:22 |
| cubezzz | I try not to gamble | Jun 07 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, 8 hours into a 10-12 hour shift, you'll take what you can get | Jun 07 04:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | myself, I misused coffee, and drank too much of that | Jun 07 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, a couple cups of triple strength coffee and a minute or two of concentrated oxygen will jump start you for a couple more hours | Jun 07 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | easy | Jun 07 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 04:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I cannot do coffee anymore | Jun 07 04:24 |
| cubezzz | I just drink tea | Jun 07 04:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that is better for you, yes | Jun 07 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | I drink both | Jun 07 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | colombian coffee and earl grey tea | Jun 07 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Chamomile Tea | Jun 07 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | although I have been known to carry instant coffee on me to eat | Jun 07 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | in case of severe exhaustion | Jun 07 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | not very tasty, but it will wake you up | Jun 07 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | cheaper than no-doz pills | Jun 07 04:27 |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Jun 07 04:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, When I was a manager at Walmart, I had a customer ask one of the employees if we had "vibrators or dildos" | Jun 07 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | at least, that's what the employee told me | Jun 07 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | turns out the woman was missing some teeth | Jun 07 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | and was asking for Vivarin or No-Doz | Jun 07 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | and this employee was horrified and telling her we're a family store and don't carry things like that | Jun 07 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to keep myself from laughing about it until I got back to the office and shut the door | Jun 07 04:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC>so what scifi are you watching tonight? | Jun 07 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | Blade Runner just came on BBC | Jun 07 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 04:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | excellant flix | Jun 07 04:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | should have been squels | Jun 07 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | nothing even loosely based on a work of Philip K Dick can be bad | Jun 07 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | I really need to get this on Blu Ray | Jun 07 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I hear I had it on DVD until all my stuff got stolen years back | Jun 07 04:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have some more earth final conflict to watch, I never got to watch it all when it came out, very little actually | Jun 07 04:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | on s3 now | Jun 07 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | another impliocit truth | Jun 07 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | no matter where you are in Dayton, Ohio, you're in a bad part of town | Jun 07 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | although it's not Detroit | Jun 07 04:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or East ST Louis? | Jun 07 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | if they remade Escapt From New York, they'd probably base it in Detroit | Jun 07 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | *Escape | Jun 07 04:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they did remake it | Jun 07 04:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Escape from LA | Jun 07 04:41 |
| WireWulf | rename it "escape for socialism" | Jun 07 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | that was a sequel | Jun 07 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | and a bad one | Jun 07 04:41 |
| WireWulf | *from | Jun 07 04:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but almost a remake | Jun 07 04:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | same plot | Jun 07 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, suppose so | Jun 07 04:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <WireWulf> rename it "escape for socialism" too late | Jun 07 04:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still worth watching for Kurt Russel fans I guess | Jun 07 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | the President in Escape From LA was a clear caricature of Ronald Reagan | Jun 07 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | which I found to be hillarious | Jun 07 04:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more like Nixon | Jun 07 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | I pegged him as more of an uber-Reagan | Jun 07 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Nixon was nowhere near as bad as Reagan judging from what I know | Jun 07 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | not that I was alive or at least aware during most of that time | Jun 07 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | (I was 4 years old when Reagan left office) | Jun 07 04:44 |
| WireWulf | Mixson was a progressive | Jun 07 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Reagan had a keen sence of humor and a warmth about him that went far with the voters | Jun 07 04:44 |
| WireWulf | *nixson | Jun 07 04:44 |
| WireWulf | Reagen made the debt go to 0 | Jun 07 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, Charismatic snakes are the most dangerous | Jun 07 04:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they can be | Jun 07 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | you could say that Hitler had a "charming" personality that drew crowds | Jun 07 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I do believe that Reagan actually thought he was doing the right things, wither you or I think he did or not | Jun 07 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | a bad guy that everyone hates and distrusts is less dangerous than a charismatic bad guy | Jun 07 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | for obvious reasons :) | Jun 07 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | Reagan did much mroe damage than Bush Jr. managed | Jun 07 04:46 |
| WireWulf | Chips_B_Malroy: economicly Reagan did right | Jun 07 04:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as in harder to vote out? | Jun 07 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | harder to oppose period | Jun 07 04:46 |
| WireWulf | less goverment spending and lower taxes = boom | Jun 07 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | Michael Dukakis anyone? | Jun 07 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | everyone was on a Republican high at the time | Jun 07 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | after 8 years of Reagan | Jun 07 04:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> Reagan did much mroe damage than Bush Jr. managed" IMO Bush both of them were worse. | Jun 07 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | and Bush Sr. rode the wave | Jun 07 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | he was a turkey that would never standa a chance in another setting | Jun 07 04:47 |
| WireWulf | Bush was an idiot | Jun 07 04:47 |
| WireWulf | both of them | Jun 07 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | even Nixon admitted that our healthcare system is/was bad | Jun 07 04:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "read my lips, no new taxes." lyer | Jun 07 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | and needed an overhaul | Jun 07 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | that already places him higher in my book than any Republican since | Jun 07 04:48 |
| WireWulf | Nixson did what he promissed | Jun 07 04:48 |
| WireWulf | hints why he was hated | Jun 07 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | the rest of them are all like "So what if 50 million people have no insurance and another 50 million have sham insurance" | Jun 07 04:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Nixion actually did get us out of Vietnam | Jun 07 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | "It's the most perfectest system ever!" | Jun 07 04:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | got to give him points for that | Jun 07 04:49 |
| WireWulf | if 50 million aint got insurance they need to think about working and forwarding a market economy | Jun 07 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | you have to give the Republicans credit though, they can manage to rally poverty stricken people who are massively viictimized with debt and have no health insurance | Jun 07 04:50 |
| WireWulf | not letting the government rule their life | Jun 07 04:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I can't say that the insurance plan is a good one, will take a wait and see approach on it | Jun 07 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | just by saying "God" and "Jesus" enough times during the campaign | Jun 07 04:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they is no economy right now | Jun 07 04:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *there | Jun 07 04:51 |
| WireWulf | Chips_B_Malroy: sad fact is goverment spending kills the economy | Jun 07 04:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a depression, official unemployment here is 13.7% | Jun 07 04:51 |
| WireWulf | civilan spending forwards the economy | Jun 07 04:51 |
| WireWulf | Chips_B_Malroy: my couny in alabama is in the black employment wise :P | Jun 07 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, The United States would be better off with no interstate highways, no Hoover Dam, and about a million other things that government spending gave us | Jun 07 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | you're right, why with no infrastructure at all, we'd be even better off than we are now | Jun 07 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | how could I have been so blind? | Jun 07 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 04:52 |
| WireWulf | some government projects are needed | Jun 07 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | infrastructure kills the economy | Jun 07 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | just like healthy workers are les productive | Jun 07 04:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hoover Dam was started by President Hoover as a means to put back to work people during the great depression | Jun 07 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | I see it all so clearly now | Jun 07 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | you opened my eyes | Jun 07 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | where do I sign up to be a Republican? :) | Jun 07 04:53 |
| WireWulf | the hoover damn was a good idea | Jun 07 04:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I am promoting either side | Jun 07 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy, And it has paid for itself many times over with the electricity alone | Jun 07 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | even ignoring all the other benefits | Jun 07 04:54 |
| WireWulf | giving failing companys like GM was a bad idea | Jun 07 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, That's different | Jun 07 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | you meant to say Corporate welfare is bad | Jun 07 04:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but now they charge for the electricity full price from that paid off many times hoover dam project | Jun 07 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | not government spending in total | Jun 07 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | failing companies fail for a reason | Jun 07 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants to buy from them | Jun 07 04:55 |
| WireWulf | but i do not think we need a FCC | Jun 07 04:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't like either party is what I meant to say | Jun 07 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | let them die | Jun 07 04:55 |
| WireWulf | and the internet should not be viewed as a utility | Jun 07 04:56 |
| WireWulf | when less ppl have the internet then cell phones | Jun 07 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | actually it should | Jun 07 04:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> nobody wants to buy from them" if it wasn't for MS's OEM control they would be bankrupt now | Jun 07 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | for some purposes | Jun 07 04:56 |
| WireWulf | and cell phones are a lucury | Jun 07 04:56 |
| *Thrae has quit (Quit: Restarting client or some sort...) | Jun 07 04:57 | |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, There should be no government taxes levied on internet access | Jun 07 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | the government should also stop giving companies protected monopolies on providing access | Jun 07 04:57 |
| WireWulf | or cell phones | Jun 07 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | the rest would sort itself out | Jun 07 04:57 |
| WireWulf | the goverment should inforce the busness fairness acts aginst M$ | Jun 07 04:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> WireWulf, There should be no government taxes levied on internet access" as bad as things are here in the USA, at least we do not have VAT taxes like Europe does | Jun 07 04:58 |
| WireWulf | like that did to AT&T in the 70's | Jun 07 04:58 |
| WireWulf | yeah i pay a vat and a income tax woo | Jun 07 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | the government could take care of Microsoft with the Sherman Act | Jun 07 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | if they really did want to | Jun 07 04:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | WireWulf> the goverment should inforce the busness fairness acts aginst M$" that can only happen once MS is weakened, as it has the money to buy the gov right now | Jun 07 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | they won't | Jun 07 04:59 |
| WireWulf | i just payed the Untied faillure states goverment 3,000 | Jun 07 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | they broke AT&T's monopolies with the Sherman Act | Jun 07 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | all they did with MS is a slap on the wrist | Jun 07 04:59 |
| WireWulf | they should do it the M$ | Jun 07 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | it did nothing to fix any of the problems that Microsoft has caused | Jun 07 04:59 |
| WireWulf | the sherman act = improtect to *nix users btw | Jun 07 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bill thought outside the box unlike AT&T and was willing to takes chances and bribe | Jun 07 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or should I say, campaign donations | Jun 07 05:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | lol | Jun 07 05:00 |
| WireWulf | apple computers are common in cali's goverment offices | Jun 07 05:01 |
| WireWulf | or atleast the one i ended up in | Jun 07 05:01 |
| WireWulf | which was odd | Jun 07 05:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@UnemployedBush I BROKE 3800... people love me sooo much. // either that or you called Katherine Harris | Jun 07 05:01 | |
| WireWulf | cuz cali is economicy dieing | Jun 07 05:01 |
| WireWulf | i disagree with Obama's fan boys also | Jun 07 05:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | M$ will not get broken up by US courts | Jun 07 05:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | niether by EU courts for the same reason | Jun 07 05:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | money talks | Jun 07 05:06 |
| WireWulf | M$ soo should be | Jun 07 05:06 |
| cubezzz | nah, they are toast anyways | Jun 07 05:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but, there is a day coming, when M$ will not have all that money | Jun 07 05:06 |
| cubezzz | you will see it happen | Jun 07 05:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its already starting | Jun 07 05:06 |
| WireWulf | apple has a lot of goverment pull also | Jun 07 05:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if I live long enough | Jun 07 05:07 |
| WireWulf | Chips_B_Malroy: you may | Jun 07 05:07 |
| cubezzz | I'm seeing the android commercials on broadcast tv | Jun 07 05:07 |
| cubezzz | the winds of change are here | Jun 07 05:08 |
| ender2070 | do you think ms would still be around if Gore was elected? | Jun 07 05:08 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Jun 07 05:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I like android, anything that saps the flow of money to MS is a good thing | Jun 07 05:08 |
| cubezzz | maybe not as bad, but still around | Jun 07 05:08 |
| ender2070 | didnt W stop the anti trust suit? | Jun 07 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, yeah, why wouldn't it? | Jun 07 05:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @EmergentCulture @pauljimerson public policy is dictated by psychopathic minority. Public must regain influence //+sociopathic (eg Gates) | Jun 07 05:08 | |
| WireWulf | major gaming companies are trying more and more to make linux games | Jun 07 05:09 |
| WireWulf | also | Jun 07 05:09 |
| WireWulf | i seen the mac steam client running on linux resently | Jun 07 05:09 |
| ender2070 | AT&T was broken to pieces, but like t1000 reassembled itself | Jun 07 05:10 |
| ender2070 | ms wasn't convicted afaik | Jun 07 05:10 |
| WireWulf | AT&T controlled everything once tho | Jun 07 05:10 |
| cubezzz | is AT&T allowed to do computer stuff? | Jun 07 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Chrome OS might not be that big a deal. But Android is shaping up to be a big deal. Be interesting what HP does with Palm and WebOS. | Jun 07 05:10 |
| cubezzz | I thought that was one of the things they weren't allowed to do | Jun 07 05:10 |
| ender2070 | computer stuff wasn't the problem | Jun 07 05:11 |
| WireWulf | at&t still owns 50% of bell labs | Jun 07 05:11 |
| ender2070 | their telecommunications monopoly is what got them in shit | Jun 07 05:11 |
| cubezzz | AT&T doesn't do any Unix though right? | Jun 07 05:11 |
| WireWulf | they own the soul rights to Unix system | Jun 07 05:11 |
| cubezzz | uhhh | Jun 07 05:12 |
| ender2070 | wrong | Jun 07 05:12 |
| WireWulf | not to be confused with unix | Jun 07 05:12 |
| WireWulf | as most ppl seem to do | Jun 07 05:12 |
| cubezzz | there's unixware still I think | Jun 07 05:12 |
| cubezzz | but that's Novell | Jun 07 05:12 |
| cubezzz | not positive... I could be wrong | Jun 07 05:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@avivao #Israel: #US "wouldn't want an int'l inquiry into its activities in #Afghanistan" http://huff.to/bHv9nC // both shd be on the hook! | Jun 07 05:12 | |
| Techrights | Title: Israeli Ambassador To U.S., Michael Oren, Rejects International Investigation Of Flotilla Deaths .::. Size~: 269.2 KB | Jun 07 05:12 |
| cubezzz | it was Novell at some point | Jun 07 05:13 |
| ender2070 | Novell owns Unix | Jun 07 05:13 |
| WireWulf | SCO bought unixware and used it to fix there unix then was sued by novell | Jun 07 05:13 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: Unix system !+ Unix | Jun 07 05:13 |
| WireWulf | err Unix system != unix | Jun 07 05:13 |
| cubezzz | ok, what does "Unix system" mean? | Jun 07 05:13 |
| ender2070 | a specific unix distro? | Jun 07 05:13 |
| WireWulf | Unix system was what AT&T came up with after the sold off unix | Jun 07 05:14 |
| WireWulf | it is what solaris is based on | Jun 07 05:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | AT&T and Berkerly labs | Jun 07 05:14 |
| WireWulf | it is what linux was coded in | Jun 07 05:14 |
| cubezzz | you know, I can definitely see why people write their own OS | Jun 07 05:14 |
| cubezzz | at least they _know_ they own it :) | Jun 07 05:15 |
| WireWulf | and also what BSD was coded in | Jun 07 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that was early BSD | Jun 07 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I believe | Jun 07 05:15 |
| WireWulf | later BSD around the time it failed | Jun 07 05:15 |
| ender2070 | linux came from minix | Jun 07 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | BSD is unix | Jun 07 05:15 |
| WireWulf | linux was not coded tottaly in miniX | Jun 07 05:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A lot of recent films either wholly, or include vignettes, designed to romanticise and normalise #war in #Iraq and #Afghanistan. #movies | Jun 07 05:15 | |
| cubezzz | no Minix code was used :) | Jun 07 05:16 |
| ender2070 | more minix than sysv | Jun 07 05:16 |
| ender2070 | based | Jun 07 05:16 |
| cubezzz | Andy even said so | Jun 07 05:16 |
| ender2070 | no code | Jun 07 05:16 |
| cubezzz | if you want System V can you still get it? | Jun 07 05:16 |
| WireWulf | not dure | Jun 07 05:16 |
| WireWulf | last system was system v r4 | Jun 07 05:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Avoid any movie/series that shows a gun or a Hummer. You won't miss anything except #war #propaganda and ambient terrorisation. | Jun 07 05:16 | |
| WireWulf | system 3 is where BSD came in at | Jun 07 05:17 |
| WireWulf | err system III | Jun 07 05:17 |
| ender2070 | if u want SysV I have a friend who has the SCO version from like 1990 or something | Jun 07 05:17 |
| ender2070 | 50+ floppies | Jun 07 05:18 |
| cubezzz | SCO Unix System V was what I used to use | Jun 07 05:18 |
| cubezzz | with all the source though? | Jun 07 05:18 |
| ender2070 | im not sure | Jun 07 05:18 |
| ender2070 | he got it recently too | Jun 07 05:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "44 inch Chest" is most depressing kind of sequel; it puts SAME ideas+actors in a blender trying to reproduce what made "Sexy Beast" great | Jun 07 05:18 | |
| ender2070 | he collects old stuff like that | Jun 07 05:18 |
| cubezzz | that's what I'm really asking for, is System V with source code, so you could actually compile everything | Jun 07 05:18 |
| ender2070 | he even has a 3DO | Jun 07 05:19 |
| cubezzz | pfffft, 3DO is modern :) | Jun 07 05:19 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: you may could find it online | Jun 07 05:19 |
| cubezzz | they say System V was really good | Jun 07 05:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Success doesn't work to formula like that. It's an insult to the viewer and an insult to "Sexy Beast". #cinema (44 Inch Chest) | Jun 07 05:19 | |
| ender2070 | u can find a lot of source online for stuff | Jun 07 05:19 |
| WireWulf | there is some remurmers about a system VI and Unix 11 | Jun 07 05:20 |
| ender2070 | someone leaked the win2k source, and nt4 source, and msdos 6 source | Jun 07 05:20 |
| WireWulf | but i dont no if i beleave them | Jun 07 05:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if you want unix, why not use Solarius? it free now | Jun 07 05:20 |
| cubezzz | I actually tried it, but I didn't like it | Jun 07 05:20 |
| ender2070 | u like buntu? | Jun 07 05:21 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, I heard it wasn't enough to compile your own win2k though | Jun 07 05:21 |
| ender2070 | nexenta os | Jun 07 05:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | me either much, although Nexenta was not too bad | Jun 07 05:21 |
| cubezzz | don't like Ubuntu either | Jun 07 05:21 |
| ender2070 | i use opensolaris on my fileserver | Jun 07 05:21 |
| cubezzz | and really, I don't want to compile windows :) | Jun 07 05:21 |
| ender2070 | 1.28GB raid-z array zfs :) | Jun 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | hah | Jun 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | infinity 2.1T 804G 1.3T 40% /infinity | Jun 07 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | a 2.1T zfs raidz on linux. | Jun 07 05:22 |
| ender2070 | fuse is slow | Jun 07 05:23 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't mind a Sun machine though | Jun 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: well I wanna switch to btrfs | Jun 07 05:23 |
| cubezzz | been looking for one for a hwhile | Jun 07 05:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | but Im waiting until its officially stable | Jun 07 05:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Debain/Fedora/Mandriva Based all mostly good, IMHO I perfer Debian | Jun 07 05:23 |
| WireWulf | no sorce for Unix system | Jun 07 05:23 |
| ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - you mentioned a zfs to btrfs converter for solaris | Jun 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | I said it exists, I didnt say its public yet. | Jun 07 05:24 |
| ender2070 | thats what im waiting for :) | Jun 07 05:24 |
| cubezzz | I spent the weekend studying parallel ports and coreboot | Jun 07 05:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cubezzz> I wouldn't mind a Sun machine though" if you going run Sparc, then Solarius or Debian | Jun 07 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have a branch of their in place zfs converter (the thing that in place converts file systems to zfs) that in place converts zfs to btrfs | Jun 07 05:24 |
| cubezzz | coreboot will teach you hardware | Jun 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they have a branch of OS that can use btrfs as the root filesystem complete with all the zfs-ey features like snapshots and shit | Jun 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | none of it is public yet | Jun 07 05:25 |
| WireWulf | gentoo suports sparc :P | Jun 07 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | s/gentoo/linux/ | Jun 07 05:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, did not know that | Jun 07 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | and gentoo sucks dick | Jun 07 05:26 |
| ender2070 | yeah gentoo does | Jun 07 05:26 |
| cubezzz | why is that? | Jun 07 05:27 |
| ender2070 | it was okay till the leader left the project | Jun 07 05:27 |
| WireWulf | it would be anuff to compile your own custom for sparc tho | Jun 07 05:27 |
| WireWulf | [3~ | Jun 07 05:27 |
| cubezzz | no updates? | Jun 07 05:27 |
| WireWulf | gentoo is dieing | Jun 07 05:27 |
| WireWulf | funtoo is a joke | Jun 07 05:27 |
| ender2070 | daniel went to go work for ms | Jun 07 05:27 |
| WireWulf | traiter | Jun 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | just use debian and quit bitching you fags. | Jun 07 05:28 |
| ender2070 | debian sucks too | Jun 07 05:28 |
| WireWulf | debian is fail | Jun 07 05:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | why is that? | Jun 07 05:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive been using debian longer than any of you have been using linux | Jun 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | so stfu noobs. | Jun 07 05:29 |
| ender2070 | pre 1999? | Jun 07 05:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes. | Jun 07 05:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Debian is good | Jun 07 05:29 |
| WireWulf | pre 1996? | Jun 07 05:29 |
| ender2070 | i started on redhat 5.2 | Jun 07 05:29 |
| WireWulf | cuz i didnt have a window computer thill like 98 | Jun 07 05:29 |
| cubezzz | whatever, I used darkstar 0.99 in 1994 | Jun 07 05:30 |
| cubezzz | and SCO Unix System V in 1988 | Jun 07 05:30 |
| ender2070 | im only 25 | Jun 07 05:30 |
| *Diablo-D3 is 26. | Jun 07 05:30 | |
| ender2070 | i was 4 in 1988 | Jun 07 05:30 |
| cubezzz | IBM 4381 in 1985 :) | Jun 07 05:30 |
| cubezzz | you want me to keep going? | Jun 07 05:30 |
| WireWulf | my mom used BSD all my life :P | Jun 07 05:31 |
| ender2070 | got my first pc in 1996 | Jun 07 05:31 |
| ender2070 | only knew of os/2 as a windows alternative till 1999 | Jun 07 05:31 |
| ender2070 | toronto computes had redhat featured | Jun 07 05:31 |
| WireWulf | i was 7 1996 but i remember learning how to use *nix ;) | Jun 07 05:31 |
| WireWulf | *7 in 1996 | Jun 07 05:31 |
| cubezzz | the big mistake I made was not sticking with Linux after I first started | Jun 07 05:31 |
| ender2070 | i was using dos, and dialing into bbs systems | Jun 07 05:32 |
| ender2070 | wishing i had the internet | Jun 07 05:32 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 05:32 |
| WireWulf | we had dailup | Jun 07 05:32 |
| WireWulf | free dailup at that | Jun 07 05:32 |
| WireWulf | 1990-1994 my mom was BBS | Jun 07 05:32 |
| ender2070 | i had someone elses unlimited dialup at one point | Jun 07 05:32 |
| cubezzz | I had a close look at a PDP-11 recently | Jun 07 05:33 |
| ender2070 | i had a 386 from 1996 to 1998 | Jun 07 05:33 |
| cubezzz | not pretty :) | Jun 07 05:33 |
| ender2070 | a 486 in 1999 | Jun 07 05:33 |
| ender2070 | pentium 2 in 2001 | Jun 07 05:33 |
| WireWulf | we had a p1 in 1995 ( i learne to use in in 1997) | Jun 07 05:33 |
| WireWulf | err 1996 | Jun 07 05:34 |
| cubezzz | pentium 60 mhz? :) | Jun 07 05:34 |
| ender2070 | i didnt catch up to everyone till 2005 | Jun 07 05:34 |
| WireWulf | before that was an old IBM i386 | Jun 07 05:34 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: i am on a old celeron :P | Jun 07 05:34 |
| ender2070 | my friend had a pentium 1 when i had my 386 | Jun 07 05:34 |
| ender2070 | i couldnt play any of the cool games he could | Jun 07 05:34 |
| WireWulf | my grandfather on my dad's side had windows | Jun 07 05:35 |
| WireWulf | i remember playing doom 2 on it | Jun 07 05:35 |
| WireWulf | like once | Jun 07 05:35 |
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| ender2070 | my dad introduced me to pcs | Jun 07 05:35 |
| cubezzz | in the late 70's we had text only CRT's for games :) | Jun 07 05:35 |
| ender2070 | took me less than 2 years to outsmart him | Jun 07 05:35 |
| cubezzz | modified b&w televisions, like on a TRS-80 Model 1 | Jun 07 05:36 |
| ender2070 | i taught him about linux's existance | Jun 07 05:36 |
| WireWulf | my mom got scared in 2000 when the jr high i wa going to sent me home after computer class :P | Jun 07 05:37 |
| cubezzz | I guess computers from that era just didn't have the memory to bitmap the display | Jun 07 05:37 |
| WireWulf | something about me taking over the server and changing all the passwords or something :P | Jun 07 05:38 |
| cubezzz | we had a system called the "arbiter" | Jun 07 05:39 |
| WireWulf | in school? | Jun 07 05:39 |
| cubezzz | it was a way to connect a single 5.25 disk drive to a dozen computers | Jun 07 05:39 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Jun 07 05:39 |
| cubezzz | we had to _share_ the 5.25" drive :) | Jun 07 05:39 |
| WireWulf | we had a modified dumby system | Jun 07 05:39 |
| cubezzz | each computer had a cassette deck :) | Jun 07 05:40 |
| cubezzz | and I did punch cards in my first year, the last year they used them before dumping the machine | Jun 07 05:40 |
| WireWulf | the system we used had real computers but was tied into a server | Jun 07 05:41 |
| cubezzz | so don't complain about using 386s | Jun 07 05:41 |
| WireWulf | mmm punch cards | Jun 07 05:41 |
| WireWulf | i have 3 timex computers some where | Jun 07 05:41 |
| cubezzz | you get to find out 24 hours later you made a mistake in line 1 :) | Jun 07 05:42 |
| WireWulf | if they stiill work | Jun 07 05:42 |
| cubezzz | that's what line numbers were originally for... punched cards | Jun 07 05:42 |
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| WireWulf | o god i remember the server admin/computer teacher at my jr high was an idiot with new tech | Jun 07 05:43 |
| WireWulf | he thought xp still needed a floppy to boot xD | Jun 07 05:43 |
| *WireWulf only has windows cuz he is addicted to gameing :P | Jun 07 05:44 | |
| cubezzz | even in 1987 we had bootable hard drives | Jun 07 05:44 |
| tessier | Microsoft is an enabled of many bad habits. | Jun 07 05:44 |
| cubezzz | Windows killed the hobbyist too | Jun 07 05:44 |
| cubezzz | hobbyist programmer is far more a rarity now | Jun 07 05:45 |
| WireWulf | DOS would still be around if not for windows :P | Jun 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: not really. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| tessier | No it wouldn't. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | the hobbyist evolved. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| tessier | OS/2 or MacOS or Linux or something else would have replaced it. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Look at all the sourceforge projects. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| WireWulf | most hobbist are linux users today | Jun 07 05:45 |
| cubezzz | oh? you know a ton of folks who can program GUIs? | Jun 07 05:45 |
| tessier | cubezzz: I don't know about it being more a rarity. | Jun 07 05:45 |
| tessier | cubezzz: FOSS would seem to disprove that. | Jun 07 05:46 |
| cubezzz | I sure don't | Jun 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | To be correct yes I do. cubezzz | Jun 07 05:46 |
| WireWulf | i know ppl who still write there own games | Jun 07 05:46 |
| cubezzz | who are non-professional hobbyist programmers? | Jun 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | The catch is doing GUI proper is a 3 people job. | Jun 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do to that as well cubezzz | Jun 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | I use what a few small tools done by hobbists | Jun 07 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Some of them have very good interfaces. | Jun 07 05:47 |
| WireWulf | i use a ton of hobbist tools :P | Jun 07 05:47 |
| ender2070 | when I had a 386 though in 1996 it was brutal | Jun 07 05:47 |
| cubezzz | because it used to be almost everyone with a PC programmed them in BASIC | Jun 07 05:47 |
| ender2070 | win95 took 30 minutes to boot | Jun 07 05:47 |
| oiaohm | I know a lot of blender hobists as well | Jun 07 05:47 |
| ender2070 | i only had 8mb of ram | Jun 07 05:47 |
| cubezzz | you must admit the learning curve is much steeper now | Jun 07 05:47 |
| oiaohm | Yes python instead of basic. cubezzz | Jun 07 05:47 |
| oiaohm | Learning curve is not that much steeper. | Jun 07 05:47 |
| ender2070 | the learning curve is coming down | Jun 07 05:48 |
| WireWulf | oiaohm: i dis agree looking at how many kids have no clue what linux is | Jun 07 05:48 |
| oiaohm | javascript for firefox extentions and python for blenders. python javascript... for gadgets. | Jun 07 05:48 |
| *WireWulf still uses C :( | Jun 07 05:48 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gn | Jun 07 05:48 |
| WireWulf | gn c | Jun 07 05:49 |
| ender2070 | windows programmers expect gc | Jun 07 05:49 |
| oiaohm | Lot of my tools are used on windows are a coded in java. WireWulf | Jun 07 05:49 |
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| DaemonFC | my cat has gone insane :P | Jun 07 05:49 |
| cubezzz | gc? | Jun 07 05:49 |
| oiaohm | One of the coders was shocked to find that I was using his tool on Linux. | Jun 07 05:49 |
| WireWulf | i have had issues with java | Jun 07 05:49 |
| ender2070 | garbage collection | Jun 07 05:49 |
| cubezzz | oh right | Jun 07 05:49 |
| ender2070 | even vb has it iirc | Jun 07 05:49 |
| oiaohm | My tools cross many languages. | Jun 07 05:50 |
| WireWulf | oiaohm: java is abit bloaty for me at times | Jun 07 05:50 |
| oiaohm | perl python java bit of vbs | Jun 07 05:50 |
| ender2070 | wirewulf - gcj | Jun 07 05:50 |
| WireWulf | i tend to use C or python | Jun 07 05:50 |
| oiaohm | And there is some PHP. | Jun 07 05:50 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - you look at Go? | Jun 07 05:50 |
| oiaohm | I have a few insane graphical PHP programs. | Jun 07 05:50 |
| WireWulf | lol guy i know wrote a C app to update his website for him | Jun 07 05:50 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: is Go any good at all? | Jun 07 05:51 |
| WireWulf | the guy sucks at PHP and html btw | Jun 07 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Hobbyiest has not stoped. | Jun 07 05:51 |
| ender2070 | it has garbage collection, but compiles native code | Jun 07 05:51 |
| ender2070 | its not bytecode, doesnt require a runtime | Jun 07 05:52 |
| ender2070 | you could write a kernel with it | Jun 07 05:52 |
| WireWulf | may look into it | Jun 07 05:52 |
| oiaohm | If you look a sourceforge you see that hobbyists are just a broad as they ever have been. | Jun 07 05:52 |
| ender2070 | its inventor also co-invented C and Unix | Jun 07 05:52 |
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| oiaohm | More and more of the code OS independant than anything else. | Jun 07 05:52 |
| WireWulf | VLC started becuz of hobbist :P | Jun 07 05:52 |
| WireWulf | p2p networks started becuz of hobbist :P | Jun 07 05:52 |
| ender2070 | linux | Jun 07 05:53 |
| WireWulf | and college students xD | Jun 07 05:53 |
| ender2070 | red hat | Jun 07 05:53 |
| WireWulf | linux was the hobbist OS till slackware | Jun 07 05:53 |
| ender2070 | named after his red hat | Jun 07 05:53 |
| oiaohm | If you want to see the old sprit of the hobbist go to reactos. | Jun 07 05:53 |
| ender2070 | freedos | Jun 07 05:53 |
| WireWulf | i hear react can use exe nativly | Jun 07 05:53 |
| ender2070 | fedora is pretty much volunteer run | Jun 07 05:54 |
| oiaohm | Impossible Odds and still going forwards anyhow. | Jun 07 05:54 |
| WireWulf | hobbist are offton over looked | Jun 07 05:54 |
| WireWulf | aircrack was a pure hacker script | Jun 07 05:55 |
| ender2070 | people often think of fedora as corporate but both boards hold elections | Jun 07 05:55 |
| WireWulf | the frontends are pure hobbies | Jun 07 05:55 |
| oiaohm | The open source world has found the way to turning hobbists into full time payed proffessionals. | Jun 07 05:55 |
| ender2070 | i would say ubuntu is more corporate than fedora | Jun 07 05:55 |
| oiaohm | So allowing hobbiest to make crust and do what they like as well. | Jun 07 05:55 |
| oiaohm | The hobbist has evolved. | Jun 07 05:55 |
| WireWulf | i would stay windows is more corp the ubuntu | Jun 07 05:56 |
| WireWulf | but M$ is in disarray | Jun 07 05:56 |
| ender2070 | of course | Jun 07 05:56 |
| ender2070 | thats a given | Jun 07 05:56 |
| WireWulf | and a corp in disarray is a bunch of backstabbing idiots | Jun 07 05:56 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 05:57 |
| WireWulf | one dav on win9 project has leak info about the vocal command system | Jun 07 05:57 |
| WireWulf | the dev on the win8 project said it would also cost more then win8 will | Jun 07 05:58 |
| ender2070 | wheres the 128-bit cpus | Jun 07 05:58 |
| cubezzz | ha | Jun 07 05:58 |
| WireWulf | they have yet to find one | Jun 07 05:58 |
| cubezzz | the ol' 128-bit cpu trick | Jun 07 05:58 |
| cubezzz | doesn't exist | Jun 07 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 12 supports 9482-bit CPUs | Jun 07 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | and is coming along....presently | Jun 07 05:59 |
| ender2070 | ATI 5750, Direct X 12.4 support | Jun 07 05:59 |
| WireWulf | ai_128 does exist but it is not useable on cpu's | Jun 07 05:59 |
| WireWulf | currently | Jun 07 05:59 |
| ender2070 | theres a quantum cpu out | Jun 07 06:00 |
| WireWulf | to AMD is said to have been making leaps in the 128bit feild | Jun 07 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/great-moments-in-outlandish-breakfast-cereal-health-claims.html | Jun 07 06:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Great Moments In Outlandish Breakfast Cereal Health Claims - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 44.41 KB | Jun 07 06:00 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: there is one working quantum computer and one working quadratic computer | Jun 07 06:01 |
| WireWulf | both own but the join military staff | Jun 07 06:01 |
| ender2070 | that means encryption is meaningless | Jun 07 06:01 |
| WireWulf | \*by | Jun 07 06:01 |
| ender2070 | thats why they want googles wifi data | Jun 07 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2009/06/alert-crunchberries-are-not-real-berries.html | Jun 07 06:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Alert: Crunchberries Are Not Real Berries - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 58.56 KB | Jun 07 06:02 |
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| WireWulf | the quantum (from what the higher ups tell me) can think for its self | Jun 07 06:02 |
| ender2070 | huh? | Jun 07 06:03 |
| WireWulf | the quadratic is a more possible option for the near future tho | Jun 07 06:03 |
| cubezzz | in the year 20xx the cyberdyne system became self-aware :) | Jun 07 06:03 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: militarys two test super computers | Jun 07 06:03 |
| ender2070 | they think? | Jun 07 06:03 |
| WireWulf | one does | Jun 07 06:03 |
| ender2070 | you mean like the dreamcast? | Jun 07 06:03 |
| WireWulf | so i hear | Jun 07 06:03 |
| WireWulf | i mean like can make a battle plan and come off with real time statistic on the enemy | Jun 07 06:04 |
| WireWulf | *s/off/up | Jun 07 06:04 |
| cubezzz | an expert system | Jun 07 06:04 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLKiHfux50I | Jun 07 06:04 |
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| ender2070 | oh | Jun 07 06:04 |
| ender2070 | like in eagle eye | Jun 07 06:04 |
| cubezzz | write a program that learns how to play chess from stratch :) | Jun 07 06:05 |
| WireWulf | more like what skynet was supposst to do | Jun 07 06:05 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: yoou dont write comput programs for it you teach it | Jun 07 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bspcn.com/2010/05/27/25-horribly-sexist-vintage-ads/ | Jun 07 06:06 |
| Techrights | Title: 25 Horribly Sexist Vintage Ads | The Best Article Every day .::. Size~: 156.96 KB | Jun 07 06:06 |
| ender2070 | damn | Jun 07 06:06 |
| cubezzz | I've heard claims like this before | Jun 07 06:06 |
| ender2070 | do you think it has net access? | Jun 07 06:06 |
| WireWulf | it was designed to be easy to use for all human being that could need it | Jun 07 06:06 |
| WireWulf | most likly not | Jun 07 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | a treatment for "nerves" | Jun 07 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | is that a code word for "on the rag"? | Jun 07 06:06 |
| WireWulf | the quadradtic one does tho (i have seen it) but you have to code and stuff for it | Jun 07 06:07 |
| cubezzz | if it could do IRC I'd be interested :) | Jun 07 06:07 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 06:07 |
| ender2070 | thats what i was thinking | Jun 07 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | "mom's on the rag, run for your lives!!!" | Jun 07 06:07 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: it may could | Jun 07 06:07 |
| WireWulf | but it is watched closly | Jun 07 06:07 |
| WireWulf | it learns mainly from communication | Jun 07 06:08 |
| ender2070 | they dont want it to become the skynet in the movie | Jun 07 06:08 |
| WireWulf | mmhmm | Jun 07 06:08 |
| WireWulf | and it is still a prototype | Jun 07 06:08 |
| ender2070 | logically i would use such a thing to filter through the massive amounts of internet packets which are intercepted in these AT&T spy rooms | Jun 07 06:09 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: i would most likly work on the tech to a point i could make a self aware robot | Jun 07 06:10 |
| ender2070 | i think even keyword searches would take too long | Jun 07 06:10 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - i would be happy with any robot | Jun 07 06:10 |
| WireWulf | i think we will be lazy fat blobs one day | Jun 07 06:10 |
| WireWulf | then the tech will turn against us | Jun 07 06:11 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 06:11 |
| WireWulf | as humanity has did to GOD | Jun 07 06:11 |
| cubezzz | that's been predicted | Jun 07 06:11 |
| WireWulf | as kids do to parents | Jun 07 06:11 |
| ender2070 | then underground you have the queen lifting her hand off the button | Jun 07 06:11 |
| ender2070 | and laughing with dr evil | Jun 07 06:12 |
| WireWulf | finaly neither side can live without the other | Jun 07 06:12 |
| cubezzz | (terminate fat blobs -> execute) | Jun 07 06:12 |
| WireWulf | and robots and humans co exsit | Jun 07 06:12 |
| cubezzz | yeah I hope my roomba doesn't get any ideas :) | Jun 07 06:13 |
| ender2070 | and they have cyborgs | Jun 07 06:13 |
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| WireWulf | cyborg would be before working robots that are self aware | Jun 07 06:13 |
| ender2070 | i think its probably possible to turn people into something like the borg | Jun 07 06:14 |
| WireWulf | after the huge univeral work with robot will we live together on mars :P | Jun 07 06:14 |
| cubezzz | I don't think you need to worry about that :) | Jun 07 06:14 |
| WireWulf | we could turn you into the borg | Jun 07 06:15 |
| cubezzz | it's 2010 and we don't even have a moonbase | Jun 07 06:15 |
| WireWulf | it just cost a lot of money | Jun 07 06:15 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: shhh :P | Jun 07 06:15 |
| cubezzz | Space 1999 was totally lying to us | Jun 07 06:15 |
| WireWulf | space: above and beyond | Jun 07 06:16 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - they might have secret ones | Jun 07 06:16 |
| WireWulf | my favorit 90's scifi show | Jun 07 06:16 |
| cubezzz | we can't even drill for oil right | Jun 07 06:16 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - http://www.youtube.com/user/GoogleDevelopers#p/u/9/jgVhBThJdXc | Jun 07 06:16 |
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| ender2070 | Google Go | Jun 07 06:17 |
| cubezzz | and the electric car is taking forever | Jun 07 06:17 |
| WireWulf | ender2070: i will look at it when i has a gUI | Jun 07 06:17 |
| WireWulf | atm i has CLI | Jun 07 06:17 |
| WireWulf | and no working X.org | Jun 07 06:17 |
| ender2070 | oooo ultrasparc | Jun 07 06:17 |
| WireWulf | ;) | Jun 07 06:18 |
| WireWulf | i am ssh into that PC | Jun 07 06:18 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Yay a new Google Go video - http://2tu.us/272v | Jun 07 06:18 | |
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| ender2070 | lol | Jun 07 06:18 |
| WireWulf | and i built the linux | Jun 07 06:19 |
| WireWulf | but i suck at compiling x.org :P | Jun 07 06:19 |
| cubezzz | ah, text mode IRC | Jun 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | X.org is the second most evil thing to build. | Jun 07 06:21 |
| oiaohm | I guess you have not got to number 1 yet. WireWulf | Jun 07 06:21 |
| WireWulf | whats the frist ? | Jun 07 06:21 |
| cubezzz | coreboot is a bit tricky | Jun 07 06:22 |
| cubezzz | lots of ways to go wrong | Jun 07 06:22 |
| oiaohm | Yep firmwares | Jun 07 06:22 |
| WireWulf | building a linux os from nothing wasnt so bad | Jun 07 06:22 |
| ender2070 | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/x/x.html | Jun 07 06:23 |
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| ender2070 | there you go | Jun 07 06:23 |
| cubezzz | I imagine porting X would be hard too | Jun 07 06:23 |
| oiaohm | The things that if you get them wrong you can kiss your ass good by. | Jun 07 06:23 |
| WireWulf | only took till yeasterday to get all the cli stuffs working :P | Jun 07 06:23 |
| WireWulf | i dont wanna compile x | Jun 07 06:23 |
| WireWulf | too painful | Jun 07 06:23 |
| WireWulf | i would reather be a heroine jukie/whore and i am scared of needles | Jun 07 06:24 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, programming scanners with secret protocols is rather difficult too | Jun 07 06:24 |
| ender2070 | how can you mess up with instructions | Jun 07 06:25 |
| WireWulf | anywho GN | Jun 07 06:25 |
| cubezzz | you can always mess up :) | Jun 07 06:25 |
| cubezzz | compiling X is something I've never done either | Jun 07 06:26 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Jun 07 06:26 | |
| oiaohm | I have built X from scratch about 4 times. | Jun 07 06:28 |
| oiaohm | KDE from scratch twice. | Jun 07 06:28 |
| oiaohm | KDE from scratch is a bit of a resource drain. | Jun 07 06:28 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: mongols aren't chinese, either :> | Jun 07 06:33 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Jun 07 06:34 |
| schestowitz | There's a territory issue ATM | Jun 07 06:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/198060/oracle_to_lay_off_more_sun_workers.html?tk=rss_news | Jun 07 06:37 |
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| schestowitz | :-) http://www.reghardware.com/2010/06/02/bp_offshore_oil_strike/ | Jun 07 06:38 |
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| ender2070 | I was playing around with openbsd | Jun 07 06:38 |
| cubezzz | huh, turbolinux still has kde 3.4.2 | Jun 07 06:39 |
| cubezzz | interesting | Jun 07 06:39 |
| cubezzz | is that one of the pay linuxes? | Jun 07 06:40 |
| ender2070 | lol yes | Jun 07 06:40 |
| cubezzz | damn, I thought maybe I could get kde 3.4.2 source code | Jun 07 06:40 |
| ender2070 | y? | Jun 07 06:41 |
| cubezzz | japan and china only :-/ | Jun 07 06:41 |
| cubezzz | I lost my copy of the source | Jun 07 06:41 |
| cubezzz | kde 3.4.2 is what I use with fc1 | Jun 07 06:41 |
| ender2070 | fc3 is the last to have it | Jun 07 06:42 |
| ender2070 | I think | Jun 07 06:42 |
| cubezzz | Xandros has 3.4.2 too | Jun 07 06:43 |
| cubezzz | but it doesn't look appealing | Jun 07 06:43 |
| ender2070 | why 3.4.2? | Jun 07 06:43 |
| cubezzz | it just works really well | Jun 07 06:44 |
| ender2070 | not 3.10? | Jun 07 06:44 |
| ender2070 | err | Jun 07 06:44 |
| ender2070 | 3.5.10 | Jun 07 06:44 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I have it, it would probably work | Jun 07 06:44 |
| cubezzz | just will take forever to compile the whole thing | Jun 07 06:44 |
| ender2070 | i used it in backtrack4 | Jun 07 06:44 |
| ender2070 | fast distro | Jun 07 06:45 |
| cubezzz | is yellow dog similar to fedora? | Jun 07 06:45 |
| ender2070 | yeah for ppc | Jun 07 06:45 |
| cubezzz | ah, I see | Jun 07 06:46 |
| schestowitz | is yDL still being released? | Jun 07 06:49 |
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| schestowitz | I think after they got bought they relased 6.0 | Jun 07 06:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ | Jun 07 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/downloads/ YDL 6.1 ISO | Jun 07 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-announce/ | Jun 07 06:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-announce/2010-April/thread.html | Jun 07 06:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://lists.fixstars.com/pipermail/yellowdog-announce/2010-April/000223.html | Jun 07 06:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 07 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Yellow Dog Linux Enthusiasts, | Jun 07 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Sony has announced that the the 3.21 firmware that will be released on | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | April 1st 2010 will remove the OtherOS feature on old, large form factor | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | PLAYSTATION(R) 3s. This will affect all versions of all Linux | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | distributions for the PS3 including YDL and YDEL. If you upgrade to | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | the new firmware, you will NOT be able to run Yellow Dog Linux. | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | IMPORTANT: If continued use of Linux on your PS3 is desired, do not | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | update the firmware on your PS3 after March 31 2010. | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Sincerely, | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | The Fixstars Linux Team | Jun 07 06:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 07 06:52 |
| cubezzz | don't have any ppc | Jun 07 06:54 |
| cubezzz | doesn't seem to be anyone running KDE on ARM | Jun 07 06:55 |
| cubezzz | except maybe netwalker | Jun 07 06:55 |
| schestowitz | KDE SC is a large package | Jun 07 06:56 |
| schestowitz | ARM is for small devices, underpowered | Jun 07 06:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe netbook edition would be used on some devices, otherwise it's Qt and stuff on Nokia's Maemo | Jun 07 06:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] NPTEL wanna share knowledge with copyrighted videos #fail @geekyogi @nparashuram @btbytes http://www.youtube.com/user/nptelhrd | Jun 07 07:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am proud to announce the new Severed Fifth website and forum, and part two of the project - http://bit.ly/dlc6HQ #severedfifth | Jun 07 07:12 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | [01:52:12] <schestowitz> ARM is for small devices, underpowered | Jun 07 07:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | bwhahahahaha. | Jun 07 07:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Also see 'Welcome To Part Two' - http://bit.ly/9n4in9 #severedfifth | Jun 07 07:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Antitrust Complaint Filed Against Microsoft / #MSNBC | Jun 07 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: full KDE session needs a lot of RAM and CCPU | Jun 07 07:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Antitrust Complaint Filed Against Microsoft/MSNBC http://ur1.ca/05wvs forgot the link in that last one, sorry | Jun 07 07:21 | |
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| cubezzz | found the kde 3.4.2 source | Jun 07 07:49 |
| cubezzz | on a BSD site :) | Jun 07 07:49 |
| cubezzz | md5sum's are correct, it's the same files | Jun 07 07:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Hey Drupal Developers - Please fix this bug, Add SVG-Edit to Drupal http://drupal.org/node/683622 #svg #svg-edit #drupal | Jun 07 08:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] As Promised, #Google Delivers #GPL Compatibility and #GNU #Linux Starts Embedding #VP8 / #WebM Support http://ur1.ca/05x77 #fsf #osi | Jun 07 08:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Where is the next Tedx in India ?? Do let me know !! | Jun 07 08:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I do not know why developers are not picking up Schoolos.It has everything you need & it going to be deployed at mass scale in India. #linux | Jun 07 08:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bilski Decision Believed to be Incredibly Long or Containing Multiple Opinions http://bit.ly/ah7mxI #swpats | Jun 07 08:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: More Regarding Red Hat, Klaus-Heiner Lehne, Patents on Genes, and #USPTO Speed Lane http://ur1.ca/05xfs #swpats | Jun 07 08:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I hate IRCTC, it sucks, it totally sucks, payment transaction hanged.. :( :( :( How many will be ready to protest against IRCTC | Jun 07 09:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Microsoft says it has changed, competing companies would beg to differ. http://is.gd/cFzSz | Jun 07 09:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Give back money http://bit.ly/c8V6hI #irctc RT: @nsisodiya: it sucks, it totally sucks, How many will be ready to protest against IRCTC | Jun 07 09:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Owns Over 7 Million Shares of BP” http://ur1.ca/05xxl #bp #oil | Jun 07 10:22 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 07 10:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] June issue of the Gratis BSD Magazine (PDF) is available for download: http://tinyurl.com/38q2xq3 This month: Firewalls special | Jun 07 10:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Gates Foundation-Connected GSK Indirectly Paid Scientists to Exaggerate Vaccine Needs http://ur1.ca/05y83 #monsanto #gmo #gsk #patents | Jun 07 11:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera never heard of him | Jun 07 11:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: The Australian Parliament goes CC - with v3.0 - http://bit.ly/9271c2 nice move #cc #australia | Jun 07 11:54 | |
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| oiaohm | Now we just have to get the tax office to support Linux or something truely platform netural. | Jun 07 11:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How the Gates family continues to gain power over the operation of public services, education included http://ur1.ca/05yi6 | Jun 07 12:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hungary Warns of Greek-Style Crisis http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world/europe/05hungrary.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | Jun 07 12:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] BEHEAD ALL APPLICATIONS THAT STEAL FOCUS. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, NOTES. | Jun 07 12:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wishy-Washy ‘Open Source’ Microsoft http://ur1.ca/05yts A look at reputation laundering from #Microsoft and how easily it can be refuted | Jun 07 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard that's too funny! | Jun 07 13:30 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnJzw9IiXhY&feature=digest | Jun 07 13:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Testing my new, 100% GNU/Linux compatible Trust Megapixel Pro webcam with Cheese! http://twitpic.com/1urah4 | Jun 07 14:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @grifferz: 'Adventures in entropy, part 2' - http://tinyurl.com/28mrdq2 | Jun 07 14:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Oops € 3,-- is not correct. The blank T-shirt is € 1,95 (Zeeman), T-shirt transfers € 6,-- (6 sheets @dixons). Forgot to calculate ink :-( | Jun 07 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdO7XH58SCf | Jun 07 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. They removed it. See number 3 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6QqxEuT0ms&feature=digest | Jun 07 14:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Hmmm... some messages are obviously spontaneously mv /dev/null on identi.ca (using Gwibber ATM) :-/ | Jun 07 14:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Love the smell of baking bread at home. | Jun 07 15:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I love that my dentist sends me a text message a couple of days before my appointment to remind me. Wonder if I can get them using twitter.. | Jun 07 15:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Simon Phipps: “MPEG-LA is a Parasite Using Standards Bodies as Its Host, Whether They Want it or Not.” http://ur1.ca/05zff #swpats | Jun 07 15:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Woot, awesome dentist is awesome! I just got a call to say they're running 30 mins late. To save me sitting around, I can go later. nice | Jun 07 15:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Adrian Lamo turns in man who bragged he leaked "Collateral Murder" http://wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/ - "awful things" among secrets | Jun 07 16:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @BradleyCMeek media coverage of #Flotilla Massacre=shameful tribalism //with bribery &coercion as insurance. #aipac #israel Helen Thomas | Jun 07 16:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s “cult hero” (as the press calls him) is rather apathetic and unresponsive to the agony his business causes http://ur1.ca/05zw7 | Jun 07 16:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #G20 'free speech fence' riddled with ironies. Who is speaking freely? Are delegates speaking freely? Or programmed? #toronto #HarperMustGo | Jun 07 16:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ggreenwald apparently #IDF is handing out medals for shooting unarmed 89 year old female journalists in the back, too. #israel #gaza | Jun 07 16:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 2010-06-05 Milton Street Festival 091.jpg [pic] http://ff.im/lCxRD | Jun 07 16:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] For those who don't know: the new Severed Fifth website and forum, and part two of the project is out! - http://bit.ly/dlc6HQ #severedfifth | Jun 07 17:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | C:\Users\Ryan\Music\Shinedown\Leave A Whisper (Rerelease\13 - Simple Man.ogg | Jun 07 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P\ | Jun 07 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz | ewww.. | Jun 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz | White space in filenames | Jun 07 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jun 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz | For an OS that's CLI hostile | Jun 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Ambiguity encouraged | Jun 07 17:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Insecurity Spreads from Desktop to Mobile, Which Fails Badly for #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/06039 #kin #security | Jun 07 17:16 | |
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| schestowitz | case insensitive too | Jun 07 17:16 |
| MinceR | cygwin deals with it fine, though | Jun 07 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's why God gave us the TAB key | Jun 07 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 17:20 |
| *DaemonFC to the tune of Kiss's God Gave Rock and Roll To You "God gave tab key to you, gave tab key to you, don't fuck with white space or strange characters now" | Jun 07 17:22 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WEomB5dFvw | Jun 07 17:27 |
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| DaemonFC | You sunk my battleship! | Jun 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | Best 3 out of 5! | Jun 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | 5 out of 8? | Jun 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | DAMNED RIGHT! | Jun 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not bad! Yeah, let's make it bad! | Jun 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Nothing but attacks on Linux in this blog: http://robinzrants.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/back-to-karmic/ | Jun 07 17:30 |
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| DaemonFC | -Ubuntu's GNOME Team took that line to heart | Jun 07 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9YpnklYhxY&feature=related | Jun 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Now with extra font sizes and colours | Jun 07 17:30 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 'pulls' an Aerovista. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/maverick-to-ship-with-new-transparent.html | Jun 07 17:31 |
| Techrights | Title: Maverick to ship with new transparent theme? | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 61.45 KB | Jun 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | 'Pulling an Aerovista' = repeating mistakes of Microsoft bloat | Jun 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz wants DOS back | Jun 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | death to long file names | Jun 07 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu will become unsuitable for older PCs | Jun 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | down with white spaces! | Jun 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | to hell with unicode characters that might not be in ANSI | Jun 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | 8.3 today, 8.3 tomorrow, 8.3 always!!! | Jun 07 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | In the news today, RMS led a protest when the latest Microsoft OS refused to allow Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Spanish, and several other foriegn symbols onto the users screen. | Jun 07 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | replacing them with blocks instead | Jun 07 17:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=704 | Jun 07 17:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Mono is taking over& Even towns! .::. Size~: 23.53 KB | Jun 07 17:35 |
| schestowitz | this was in tuxmachines | Jun 07 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't say much... | Jun 07 17:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: unix never had 8.3 | Jun 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | the FSF Dwarf himself was quoted as saying "We won't stop until you are forced to see things you can't read anyway" | Jun 07 17:36 |
| schestowitz | he's not short | Jun 07 17:36 |
| schestowitz | How tall are you? | Jun 07 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a foot taller | Jun 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | RMS reminds me of that Dwarf guy in the Lord of the Rings movie | Jun 07 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Or less | Jun 07 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | really short and fat, and the hair is right too | Jun 07 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise/Star Trek had one too | Jun 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, 6' 4" | Jun 07 17:37 |
| schestowitz | RMS is probably like 5'8'' | Jun 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Dwarf | Jun 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 17:37 |
| schestowitz | He'e vegan | Jun 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | anyone under 5' 9" is a dwarf | Jun 07 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | especially men | Jun 07 17:38 |
| schestowitz | So he won't be a good painter [badaboom!] | Jun 07 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | How's the weather down there? Need me to hit floor 40 for you short stuff? | Jun 07 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 17:38 |
| schestowitz | At least he achieved a lot | Jun 07 17:38 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC measures people in inches | Jun 07 17:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Human Rights Eroding in Name of Copyright Protection http://bit.ly/d9FpDj not new, but worth saying again #copyright #freedom | Jun 07 17:38 | |
| Techrights | Title: Human Rights Eroding in the Name of Copyright Protection - Chao-Kuei's Notes | 資訊.人.權.貴 隨便記 .::. Size~: 23 KB | Jun 07 17:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: better than measuring by bank balance ('score') | Jun 07 17:39 |
| *DaemonFC is 76 inches tall | Jun 07 17:39 | |
| DaemonFC | tall enough to ride any ride of his choosing | Jun 07 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 17:39 |
| schestowitz | We'll send Cindy Crawford to your house | Jun 07 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | then there's short man syndrome | Jun 07 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | they become loud and obnoxious to try to scare tall men | Jun 07 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's like little dog syndrome in humans | Jun 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | chiwawamen? | Jun 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | so you being loud and obnoxious means you feel short then? | Jun 07 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | no, it means I'm not bluffing and he is | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | and taking a few steps forward drives him a few steps backwards | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | works almost every time | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's psychological MinceR | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | programming | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | leftover programming | Jun 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | the presence of a weapon adds to the appearance of being ready to use force | Jun 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | retractable batons work well here | Jun 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | cheap and legal in 49 states | Jun 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | it adds to the theater of "I'm about to bash your ******* skull in" | Jun 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | at this point they usually leave without further incident | Jun 07 17:44 |
| MinceR | who are "they"? | Jun 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | the guy next door | Jun 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | the guy downstairs | Jun 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Jun 07 17:44 |
| MinceR | i don't care about them | Jun 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | it helps if they think you're crazy | Jun 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | maybe you don't really care about spending the weekend in jail | Jun 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | maybe you have a good lawyer | Jun 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | how do they know? | Jun 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Never breaking character goes far in the confrontation. | Jun 07 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | show of force, alpha male | Jun 07 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | humans aren't a lot different from other animals | Jun 07 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | they really aren't | Jun 07 17:47 |
| MinceR | humans are vile. | Jun 07 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | the brain stem is still in control | Jun 07 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | higher thought just makes humans more dangerous | Jun 07 17:48 |
| schestowitz | http://gadgetmix.com/index/asus-says-b-bye-to-eee-support-forum/ | Jun 07 17:48 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, XP or Linux? | Jun 07 17:48 |
| MinceR | higher thought usually makes the few humans that have them more civilized | Jun 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | or both? | Jun 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, wrong | Jun 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | what about the people that invent high tech weapons that kill many people? | Jun 07 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | you're saying they help maintain peace? | Jun 07 17:49 |
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| MinceR | depends on how those weapons are used | Jun 07 17:49 |
| schestowitz | and who funds them | Jun 07 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons | Jun 07 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | no other animal could have invented them | Jun 07 17:50 |
| MinceR | they're usually put in the hands of those who lack higher thought | Jun 07 17:50 |
| schestowitz | The theory is not developed for war | Jun 07 17:50 |
| schestowitz | It's being applied that way, and that's where a lot of funding comes from (over $600,000,000,000/year in the US) | Jun 07 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | other countries have them due to spies mostly | Jun 07 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Rocket enthusiasts can't afford the hobby without some islands at their disposal, or a few billions here and there | Jun 07 17:51 |
| schestowitz | [17:51] <DaemonFC> other countries have them due to spies mostly | Jun 07 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | KGB making off with US nuclear weapon designs and such | Jun 07 17:51 |
| schestowitz | We're talking about benJIman again? | Jun 07 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | let's not pretend to believe the USSR would have had nuclear weapons for decades aside from that | Jun 07 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | it was all thanks to spies | Jun 07 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | without spies, their nuclear weapons program would have been behind ours by at least 10 years | Jun 07 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | of course the imbalance could have led to a far worse timeline than ours | Jun 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | eventually if you have that big of an advantage over your opponent, there's always a point where you think about pressing it | Jun 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | goes for anyone who has the advantage | Jun 07 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | regardless of original intent | Jun 07 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | back to LOTR, that was the ring metaphor of course | Jun 07 17:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear #WHCA, *anyone* attending press conferences who does not challenge WH positions is an "opinion columnist"-Representing the WH opinion. | Jun 07 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | power is too tempting, it corrupts, it leads to lust for more power at any cost | Jun 07 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | balance must be maintained | Jun 07 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes balance comes from an arms race | Jun 07 17:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Severed Fifth now on identi.ca - http://identi.ca/severedfifth :-) #severedfifth | Jun 07 17:57 | |
| Techrights | Title: Severed Fifth (severedfifth) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 14.05 KB | Jun 07 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | even if you know using the weapons is unthinkable | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | No, it doesn't | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | That's now balance | Jun 07 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | it is | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/45703#comment-13619 | Jun 07 17:57 |
| Techrights | Title: today's howtos & leftovers: | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 33.13 KB | Jun 07 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's not sustainable | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Quoted from the article: | Jun 07 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | but it is balance, for the time being | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | "This closed strategy was part of the reason it failed to maintain a dominant market share when matched up against the open-source Windows platform from Microsoft Corp. during the PC turf wars of the late 1980s." | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's "open-source Windows platform"? Yet another warped definition of open source. | Jun 07 17:57 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jun 07 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Isn't Microsoft working on that Midori thing still | Jun 07 17:57 |
| MinceR | sounds like fiction | Jun 07 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | the Windows replacement written in C# | Jun 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 07 17:58 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: vapor computing? | Jun 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm still working on my LEGO | Jun 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I think I'll finish it before I get public hair | Jun 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has had those vapour-throwaways for a long time | Jun 07 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Just different names | Jun 07 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | People forget about this later | Jun 07 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | Until it's mentioned and then they go like, "oh yeah.... what ever happened with *that*?" | Jun 07 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28operating_system%29 | Jun 07 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | They can't | Jun 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | driver, compat, backware compat... | Jun 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Windows has inertia cause of 3rd parties | Jun 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | See what KIN caused... | Jun 07 18:00 |
| schestowitz | All the ISvs packed up an left | Jun 07 18:00 |
| MinceR | they don't have a Dave Cutler now | Jun 07 18:02 |
| MinceR | neither do they have a CP/M | Jun 07 18:02 |
| MinceR | all they get to steal now is BSD | Jun 07 18:02 |
| MinceR | so midori is doomed :> | Jun 07 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | isn't he working on Azure now? | Jun 07 18:03 |
| MinceR | hm, it seems so | Jun 07 18:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dentist to me:"This next drill is quite slow, but loud. A bit like the ones you see in the horror movies".Uh, okay! Felt like Dustin Hoffman | Jun 07 18:05 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/2010/06/04/imminent-sale-and-news/ | Jun 07 18:05 |
| Techrights | Title: What Novell is Down to This Week | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.69 KB | Jun 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "Dave Cutler (photo), VP global technical support of Novell. He has made improvements to all aspects of technical support & built new centers in India & Prague. Under Cutler, Novell Support Centers became SCP certified in 2005 and won the 2007 HDI “Team Excellence” award. " | Jun 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | same guy? | Jun 07 18:05 |
| MinceR | no idea | Jun 07 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/Microsoft_Video_Statement.wmv | Jun 07 18:06 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting video/x-ms-wmv type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 07 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_7823_8718%5E9742,00.html | Jun 07 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | triators, shills, and Microsoft employees | Jun 07 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | all "visionaries" according to AMD | Jun 07 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | Pointy Haired Bosses | Jun 07 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | a whole stack of them | Jun 07 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | are now visionaries | Jun 07 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 18:10 |
| MinceR | all they envision is money from m$? :> | Jun 07 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | PHBs MinceR | Jun 07 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | money is al lthey care about | Jun 07 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | even as they lose billions for the company | Jun 07 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | though the ideal PHB has little or no working knowledge of what he or she is actually supervising | Jun 07 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | has an array of imrpessive sounding but worthless qualifications | Jun 07 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and tries to mask his/her incompetence with buzzwords | Jun 07 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Scott Adams made fun of the ISO all the time | Jun 07 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you noticed | Jun 07 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | the company had to be ISO certified for everything | Jun 07 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | per management | Jun 07 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung just left me a voicemail | Jun 07 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | they refuse to provide GPL source code | Jun 07 18:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/enermax-vegas-case-fans,10608.html Enermax's New, Colorful, And Shiny Case Fans | Jun 07 18:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Enermax's New, Colorful, And Shiny Case Fans .::. Size~: 101.85 KB | Jun 07 18:23 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I made a video | Jun 07 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to upload it to Youtube | Jun 07 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | proof that Samsung violates the GPL | Jun 07 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC | it may take a while | Jun 07 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have much upload bandwidth | Jun 07 18:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @aliceinthewater http://bit.ly/cU74My #Obama official: Netanyahu team "actually waiting for President #Palin.” (via @shoq) | Jun 07 18:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm calling them back | Jun 07 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | the receptionist's name is Porsche | Jun 07 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be "John" has her bent over his executive desk quite often | Jun 07 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | with a name like that | Jun 07 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | *bet | Jun 07 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | "Proof that Samsung violates the GPL/LGPL license and distributes pirated software on their hardware." | Jun 07 18:34 |
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| amarsh04 | DaemonFC, contact the people at http://www.softwarefreedom.org about Samsung's lack of GPL compliance | Jun 07 18:42 |
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| amarsh04 | listening to http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/2010/may/25/episode-0x28-dans-software-patent-presentation/ at the moment | Jun 07 18:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Episode 0x28: Dan's Software Patent Presentation - Software Freedom Law Show - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 11.16 KB | Jun 07 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | he's not answering | Jun 07 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | he's hiding under his desk now | Jun 07 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | when the suits go to ground, you know they're hiding something | Jun 07 18:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you have ogg version? | Jun 07 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | WMV HD | Jun 07 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | processing is not complete :P | Jun 07 18:50 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Jun 07 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that Youtube manages to fuck up Theora worse | Jun 07 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | so I just use Windows Media now :P | Jun 07 18:50 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I called them software pirates | Jun 07 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 07 18:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVqL9etvU0&feature=digest | Jun 07 18:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/samsung-is-a-software-pirate/ | Jun 07 18:58 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, so? | Jun 07 19:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Lesson - You cannot bring some technology from future and put here -> RT: @skbohra: google has launched too fail products buzz and wave . | Jun 07 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5eFM6C3lfc&feature=digest | Jun 07 19:10 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm explaining the situation to "John" right now | Jun 07 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | that Samsung is in breach of their contract with me | Jun 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm watching it | Jun 07 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Jun 07 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I'll repost in an hour | Jun 07 19:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] May twitter add a default #ot hashtag ? May Echofon give setting to block some tweet using hashtags. #twitter | Jun 07 19:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] At the park [pic] http://ff.im/lD5Fj | Jun 07 19:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, He's agreed to follow up with me by no later than Wednesday | Jun 07 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | he said he'll contact their corporate office directly | Jun 07 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | he also told me he had never heard of the GPL or LGPL | Jun 07 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | They should learn | Jun 07 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | so I gave him some examples of how the licenses are used | Jun 07 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | He gave his extension # | Jun 07 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | he also asked if I intended to mod their player using it and I explained why that would be impossible | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | He could get identified and get trouble | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you should be able to do that | Jun 07 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Don't know about DMCA | Jun 07 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | it uses digital signatures and checksum verification to confirm it's from them | Jun 07 19:28 |
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| DaemonFC | so the hardware would refuse to load modified software | Jun 07 19:29 |
| MinceR | Linus likes tivoization | Jun 07 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | I also explained how companies typically wall off their DRM and keep it separate from the firmware itself | Jun 07 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | so the firmware source code would not enable me to bypass their DRM either | Jun 07 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | I went to lengths to make sure they knew that I knew that I couldn't mod their player or circumvent their DRM with the source code they are obligated to provide | Jun 07 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | reading the free newspaper | Jun 07 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's socialism I tells ya | Jun 07 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | heh, the "neighborhood association meeting" | Jun 07 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | what a joke | Jun 07 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | they wanted me to join and pay them money, I told them to sue me | Jun 07 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | that was three years ago | Jun 07 19:35 |
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| DaemonFC | the mayor took the federal grant to rehire the firefighters he fired | Jun 07 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | after saying he wouldn't | Jun 07 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | and calling it "socialism" | Jun 07 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | grandstand while they're watching | Jun 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | take the money when they aren't | Jun 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | they'll think the firefighters are being paid out of magix | Jun 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | *magic | Jun 07 19:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9-k9UhAjgY&feature=digest | Jun 07 19:38 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Gulf coast Birds in Oil: AP video .::. Size~: 104.39 KB | Jun 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | the employment section has 7 positions listed | Jun 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | in a town of 17,000 | Jun 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | all except one are commission-based | Jun 07 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | one is for an LPN | Jun 07 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Neat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhRwA-JQBtk&feature=digest | Jun 07 19:40 |
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| DaemonFC | oh, but there are som jumbo ads over in the corner | Jun 07 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | MIG Welding | Jun 07 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can do that | Jun 07 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Assistant Manager, I can do that | Jun 07 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | and one for the Health Dept. that I'm not qualified for | Jun 07 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | and even if I was, I'm not related to any of the local politburo | Jun 07 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, welding is lots of fun | Jun 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | especially on 100 degree August days | Jun 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | and then there's the chance of a tank exploding | Jun 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | the local DirecTV people are advertising | Jun 07 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | efficiency apartments, $60 a week, utilities paid, no pets | Jun 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | typical | Jun 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | adoption center is paying unwed teenage preggos | Jun 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | that'll discourage them from premarital sex | Jun 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | the apartment complexes are getting more reasonable now that the number of people employed is rock bottom | Jun 07 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | better to rent them out at cost than leave them empty I guess | Jun 07 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | banking on the assumption that things will pick up when the 1 year lease expires | Jun 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | then they can jack up the rent | Jun 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | and if you don't like it, you can move :) | Jun 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/using-windows-for-a-day-cost-mac-user-100000/ | Jun 07 19:52 |
| Techrights | Title: Using Windows for a Day Cost Mac User $100,000 — Krebs on Security .::. Size~: 408.66 KB | Jun 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft's Security Essentials antivirus has improved a little from when it was OneCare | Jun 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | 92% detection up from 86% | Jun 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | but 8% of millions of unique samples is stil la lot of misses | Jun 07 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | other freeware averages 96-99% | Jun 07 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | still not a gurantee, but not the gaping hole that MSE leaves you | Jun 07 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Avira or Avast likely would have caught that password stealer | Jun 07 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | he was probably using expensive junk like Mcafee or Norton or freeware junk like MSE | Jun 07 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | or nothign at all | Jun 07 19:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Thomas' outburst spurred by genuine outrage shared by millions, while Palin just regurgitates offensive falsehoods for money. cc @pinkomomma | Jun 07 20:00 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, you misquoted me | Jun 07 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | “Crapple emulation using Monoposoft technologies on Linux,” calls it Ryan Farmer, “I know you don’t care much about Banshee, but if there is already what is basically a proprietary version for Windows, the first link, then I guess it will be ported over to Windows soon and if it gets ported to Windows it will go to Mac as well I guess, but those versions won’t use Mono?” | Jun 07 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I said the first sentence | Jun 07 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | not the rest | Jun 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do NGO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_mHrkvIt90&feature=related | Jun 07 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft should be sure not to sneak the table under the money next time they fund Novell | Jun 07 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: who said the second sentence? | Jun 07 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe cubezzz? | Jun 07 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, | Jun 07 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Jun 07 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | xfsdump has a utility to show you how fragmented the filesystem is | Jun 07 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | it can happen where you need to defrag | Jun 07 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's not something you have to do every week like Windows | Jun 07 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | but having no defrag utility means that if it comes time and you use Ext2/3/4, you will need to format the partition and start over | Jun 07 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | say after a year or two | Jun 07 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | XFS has xf_fsr which can defrag on demand | Jun 07 20:21 |
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| DaemonFC | without wiping the whole partition | Jun 07 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's also why XFS doesn't reserve 10% of the disk like Ext2/3/4 does | Jun 07 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | no need | Jun 07 20:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung is a #GPL Violator (Video) http://techrights.org/2010/06/07/samsung-no-compliance/ #playogg #gnu #fsf | Jun 07 20:22 | |
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| schestowitz | this ought to apply some pressure. Thanks _so_ much for this. | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | back in a sex | Jun 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz | *sec | Jun 07 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 07 20:23 |
| MinceR | freudian slip | Jun 07 20:23 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 7 20:28:19 2010 | ||
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| 212201 < DaemonFC> MinceR, ADIDAS | ||
| 212203 < sebsebseb> DaemonFC: | ||
| 212204 < DaemonFC> :P | ||
| 212224 < DaemonFC> http://s0.ilike.com/play#Korn:A.D.I.D.A.S.:65418:s367949.8119929.1833907.0.1.74%2Cstd_4aa81f16bfc0e584f96100a590edc1b3 | ||
| 212225 < Techrights> Title: MySpace Player .::. Size~: 23.54 KB | ||
| 212235 < MinceR> my ears are occupied :> | ||
| 212254 < DaemonFC> oh dammit | ||
| 212300 < DaemonFC> it's fucking censored | ||
| 212302 < DaemonFC> fuckers | ||
| 212303 < DaemonFC> :P | ||
| 212310 < MinceR> :/ | ||
| 212317 < DaemonFC> lame | ||
| 212332 < MinceR> oh, i think i remember that acronym | ||
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| 212340 < MinceR> All Day I Dream About Sex? | ||
| 212348 < DaemonFC> yep | ||
| 212351 < MinceR> :) | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Jun 07 20:28 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 07 20:28 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:19:57 2010 | Jun 07 20:28 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Jun 07 20:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3286/21986809.png | Jun 07 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 20:31 |
| MinceR | zomg, the song can be reconstructed from the spectrogram | Jun 07 20:32 |
| MinceR | copyright infringement! ;) | Jun 07 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | uhhm | Jun 07 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Jun 07 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 20:32 |
| MinceR | (probably in extremely low quality though) | Jun 07 20:32 |
| cubezzz | my filesystem is 6 years old | Jun 07 20:32 |
| cubezzz | no defrag | Jun 07 20:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Free and Open Source Job portal of India. #foss #jobs #job #india #follow and RT about it. 259 job posting done | Jun 07 20:33 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Vorbis handles Heavy Metal far better than MP3 | Jun 07 20:33 |
| cubezzz | no problems | Jun 07 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that won't ever change in MP3's favor | Jun 07 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:33 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: how do you find out how old a filesystem is? | Jun 07 20:33 |
| cubezzz | actually 7 years | Jun 07 20:33 |
| cubezzz | because 7 years ago I put redhat 8 on and the partitions and fs are still the same | Jun 07 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | statistically, ABX says I prefer ~192k Vorbis to 320k MP3 92% of the time | Jun 07 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | who can argue with statistics? :) | Jun 07 20:34 |
| MinceR | anyone can | Jun 07 20:34 |
| MinceR | they can make up their own statistics | Jun 07 20:35 |
| MinceR | and you can prove anything and its opposite with statistics :> | Jun 07 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | 97.4542565234566734673747567263745736% ofr statistics are made up on the spot | Jun 07 20:35 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jun 07 20:35 |
| cubezzz | yeah like what percentage of the browser market IE has | Jun 07 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | and have 3.14159% error margin | Jun 07 20:35 |
| cubezzz | a lot of the time you just don't know things precisely | Jun 07 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | well, the trending says IE is sinking | Jun 07 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | so I beleive IE is in fact sinking | Jun 07 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:36 |
| cubezzz | yes, it's decreasing certainly | Jun 07 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's not one report, it's all of them, and it spans several years | Jun 07 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | no arguing that it's in decline | Jun 07 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | the only argument is how far and how fast | Jun 07 20:37 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz_log | Jun 07 20:37 | |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Jun 07 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, IE 9 developer preview plays WebM with the K-Lite codec pack installed | Jun 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR wil paste the satff the log missed | Jun 07 20:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Does anyone believe that if the Bhopal disaster had happened in the USA caused by an Indian company then no Indians would be in court? | Jun 07 20:39 | |
| cubezzz | I finally found the KDE 3.4.2 source after looking for a month | Jun 07 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | you have to spoof the user agent though or YOutube won't give it to you | Jun 07 20:39 |
| schestowitz | *stuff *will | Jun 07 20:39 |
| MinceR | http://pastebin.com/M2eC2XFU | Jun 07 20:39 |
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| cubezzz | youtube is boring | Jun 07 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's interesting is that Microsoft says their goal in Windows 7 was to make sure you needed as few external codecs as possible, for "security" reasons | Jun 07 20:40 |
| cubezzz | low quality dialogue | Jun 07 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | then they go and make you download external codecs as soon as it's a FOSS format | Jun 07 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | they contradict themselves regularly on their own blogs | Jun 07 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | who needs schestowitz? | Jun 07 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:41 |
| cubezzz | video in the browser is just going to be slower no matter what | Jun 07 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | if you follow Microsoft's blogs even badly, you'll find lots of humorous inconsistencies' | Jun 07 20:41 |
| cubezzz | I don't follow MIcrosoft too much | Jun 07 20:42 |
| cubezzz | again, it's not that interesting | Jun 07 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I follow Microsoft on Sundays | Jun 07 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Then I write a little about it, mostly the following day | Jun 07 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft won't last forever | Jun 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Like Novell... | Jun 07 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Windows Activation Technologies are there to protect the end user from being a victim of a free copy of Windows continuing to work | Jun 07 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:43 |
| cubezzz | AROS, Coreboot, Linux, GNU are the areas I study now | Jun 07 20:43 |
| cubezzz | and communications in general | Jun 07 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | IE 8 is secure, that's why Microsoft is patching it at the same rate as IE 6 | Jun 07 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | and so on | Jun 07 20:44 |
| MinceR | IE8 is secure, just like IE6 | Jun 07 20:45 |
| cubezzz | right, there's another reason to not use Windows, the WGA | Jun 07 20:45 |
| MinceR | ;) | Jun 07 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | actually, Windows XP setup says that IE 6 is the most secure Microsoft browser ever | Jun 07 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | and I agree | Jun 07 20:45 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 07 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like a few billion memcpy's to keep those h4x0rz out | Jun 07 20:46 |
| cubezzz | who knows what they did? | Jun 07 20:47 |
| cubezzz | closed source | Jun 07 20:47 |
| MinceR | what, no gets()? | Jun 07 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | no can has! Ballmer sez! | Jun 07 20:47 |
| cubezzz | it would be nice if I could get KDE source in one big file | Jun 07 20:48 |
| cubezzz | but no one seems to have that | Jun 07 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There's IE 5 source code out there | Jun 07 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to say I have it in a logged channel | Jun 07 20:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 07 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | but I will refuse to deny it | Jun 07 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's the same thing, right? | Jun 07 20:49 |
| MinceR | will you deny it in private? :> | Jun 07 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'll refuse to confirm or deny it in private | Jun 07 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | that'll fuck with you | Jun 07 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 20:50 |
| cubezzz | oh nooes, you will turn to salt | Jun 07 20:50 |
| cubezzz | looking at evil Microsoft source code | Jun 07 20:50 |
| MinceR | no, you'll laugh yourself to death | Jun 07 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: OpenSource Could Mean Open Door for Hackers http://bit.ly/bqRbpH think we'll need to see the methodology on this one #security | Jun 07 20:51 | |
| MinceR | that's how they protect their source code | Jun 07 20:51 |
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| DaemonFC | I will refuse to confirm or deny all that you know to be true but can't prove, further should you try to prove it using my refusal to confirm or deny it, I'll deny that we ever had the conversation | Jun 07 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | however, I agre with you in principle, off the record | Jun 07 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | if you'll just sign the NDA, we can get it over with much faster | Jun 07 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why the Zune wasn't named the Microsoft Intellipod | Jun 07 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 21:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 07 21:04 |
| MinceR | that would have been a better name | Jun 07 21:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Two people in line at quizno's are reading on ipads. I need to stop the Apple store and play with one myself. | Jun 07 21:05 | |
| MinceR | and now, crApple ads on the channel | Jun 07 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | or Microsoft Intellipod Explorer for the media browser | Jun 07 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 21:05 |
| MinceR | get all your creationist bullshit and crApple ads on #boycottnovell. | Jun 07 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.spinnaker.com/crypt/drm/freeme/Technical | Jun 07 21:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft designed Windows Media DRM so they could update the dlls responsible for decryption in Windows Media Player updates, but the fundamental DRM scheme doesn't really change | Jun 07 21:10 |
| MinceR | A recent study has shown that 83% of people are more likely to believe a statement if it begins with "A recent study has shown" | Jun 07 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | so it becomes "DRM is broken, Microsoft fixes it, broken, fixed, broken, fixed......" and so on | Jun 07 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's why DRM unDRMers :) will release a program saying you have to have Windows Media Player version X.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx | Jun 07 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | for the unDRMing to work | Jun 07 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's why it's handy to have an old copy of XP hanging around in a virtual machine with a known working copy of WMP (for purposes of decrypting Windows Media DRM'd files | Jun 07 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | not that I would know | Jun 07 21:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Quick FYI: Live Severed Fifth Videocast tomorrow - details at http://bit.ly/blX9av #severedfifth | Jun 07 21:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | and I refuse to confirm to confirm that I deny that I did or did not use this highly hypothetical method to jailbreak a bunch of old broken WMA's my dad had on his system before wiping out the alleged copy of Windows XP | Jun 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | the alleged operating system | Jun 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | like "the alleged car" in Dirk Gently | Jun 07 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, He had a bunch of audiobooks he got on WMA | Jun 07 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not like converting them to Ogg hurt anything really | Jun 07 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | corrected: and I refuse to confirm to confirm that I deny that I did or did not use this highly hypothetical method to jailbreak a bunch of old broken WMA's my dad may or may not have had on his system before wiping out the alleged copy of Windows XP that may or may not have been on the system that may or may not have been present at the suggested time and place where I may or may not have been | Jun 07 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | your honor | Jun 07 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | perfect | Jun 07 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | wait | Jun 07 21:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @schestowitz my firefox from fedora 13 isn't playing that ogg :( | Jun 07 21:20 | |
| DaemonFC | corrected: and I refuse to confirm to confirm that I deny that I did or did not use this highly hypothetical method to"jailbreak" (quotation fingers) an indeterminate amount of old broken WMA's my dad may or may not have had on his system before wiping out the alleged copy of Windows XP that may or may not have been on the system that may or may not have been present at the suggested time and place where I may or may not have been, your honor. So help | Jun 07 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | your God. | Jun 07 21:20 |
| cubezzz | does Debian still support mp3? | Jun 07 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, depends on what you mean | Jun 07 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | it supports the plug-in that plays MP3 | Jun 07 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | from wherever you dig up the plug-in from | Jun 07 21:22 |
| cubezzz | you know I think I'll stick with older Linux and older KDE | Jun 07 21:22 |
| cubezzz | just more straightforward | Jun 07 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | debian-multimedia has all kinds of stuff | Jun 07 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, You can use reverse engineered codecs unless it is DRM'd WMA (nothing will make it play) or WMA Pro or Lossless (which the Fluendo pay codecs will play but nobody uses because most hardware won't play them) | Jun 07 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | in any event, I've never had the need arise to pay to play | Jun 07 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 07 21:25 |
| cubezzz | I break DRM WMA all the time | Jun 07 21:25 |
| cubezzz | no problem there | Jun 07 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | the only way to play WMA Pro in hardware that I know of is with the Intellipod | Jun 07 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | (Zune) | Jun 07 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a bad codec, speaking strictly in technical terms, it just has a terrible license and no decent hardware supports it | Jun 07 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | so it will stay banished in the land of shit that isn't used | Jun 07 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | poor little unloved WMA Pro | Jun 07 21:27 |
| cubezzz | every now and then I need to play wmv and wma on linux | Jun 07 21:27 |
| cubezzz | I'd rather have that ability than not | Jun 07 21:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux Outlaw has accused Phoronix of "link baiting" (fair point re that one #linux 2.6.35 article) | Jun 07 21:28 | |
| DaemonFC | in terms of quality I place WMA Pro v10 as better than MP3 and AAC, about equal to libvorbis, and slightly worse than Aotuv Vorbis | Jun 07 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | plain WMA is the worst lossy codec of all | Jun 07 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | not even equal to old versions of LAME | Jun 07 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | AoTuv is the best bet to get the most quality from the fewest bits | Jun 07 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 07 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Google is not only stupid to use FFMPEG's Vorbis encoder, but they would be stupid to use Xiph.org libvorbis as well | Jun 07 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | if they used AoTuv, they could shrink the bitrate even further and maintain acceptable quality | Jun 07 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | 64k AoTuv would be useful for streaming in a bandwidth cosntrained environment | Jun 07 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | 128k would go nicely with an HD video on Youtube | Jun 07 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | I usually go with 192k to allegedly rip a supposed CD | Jun 07 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | and 256k to allegedly rip a very supposed Blu Ray | Jun 07 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 21:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux is Beating #Apple and #Microsoft at Television Market http://ur1.ca/061rp http://ur1.ca/061rr by @sjvn | Jun 07 21:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | the funny thing about Matroska is that you can pair h.264 with Vorbis if you really want to | Jun 07 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | and Sansa will play that combination :) | Jun 07 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | so I may opr may not have an indeterminate number of supposed files in that hypothetical configuration | Jun 07 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | due to this fact | Jun 07 21:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science Has #Fedora #GNU #Linux Deployed http://ur1.ca/061s5 | Jun 07 21:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux and Printers: "It Just Works (TM)" http://g33q.co.za/2010/06/06/samsung-ml-1640-usb-printer-and-ubuntu-lucid-lynx/ | Jun 07 21:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Switch to #GNU #Linux and Why Taking Market Share from #Windows is Important http://ur1.ca/061sk http://ur1.ca/061sl | Jun 07 21:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux -oriented Audiocasts: FLOSS Weekly on #Mercurial , Going Linux http://twit.tv/floss122 http://ur1.ca/061tm | Jun 07 21:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/198183/microsoft_emphasizes_hybrid_cloud_at_teched.html | Jun 07 21:48 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft Intellihybridfog Computing | Jun 07 21:48 |
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| DaemonFC | "We want enough of your data in the Fog to trap you into buying Windows, the only way to access it" | Jun 07 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | with Microsoft IntelliFog Explorer | Jun 07 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | simply insert the nine pieces of eight to activate Windows | Jun 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | and you're all set to go until we want more money | Jun 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Legit activation code = Nuclear Launch Code | Jun 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Pirate activation code = Nine pieces of Eight | Jun 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | how's that? :P | Jun 07 21:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @daemonfc that always makes me laugh | Jun 07 21:55 | |
| DaemonFC | Activation sequence commencing.....Does the First Officer concur? Jabba: "Meow" Activation in 10, 9, 8...... | Jun 07 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.winsupersite.com/podcast/ | Jun 07 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows Weekly 159: Gypsy Stole My iPhone | Jun 07 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | poor gypsy | Jun 07 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | the iphone will steal his soul | Jun 07 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | and encumber it with DRM | Jun 07 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | and rent it back to him | Jun 07 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | and make him wear turtlenecks and buy $6 cups of coffee | Jun 07 22:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Game Developer Finds out That Going Free/Libre Helps the Project Develop http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/06/Early-Gish-hacking #gpl | Jun 07 22:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Software Like #Flash in a Wart in #GNU #Linux Distributions http://ur1.ca/061z0 http://ur1.ca/061z1 go #vp8 | Jun 07 22:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | no human wears turtlenecks | Jun 07 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | when you put one on, you become something less than human | Jun 07 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | what's the word for it? douche? | Jun 07 22:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE SC 4.5 Previews and Analysis http://ur1.ca/061zk http://ur1.ca/061zl http://ur1.ca/061zm http://ur1.ca/061zn | Jun 07 22:10 | |
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| Techrights | Title: A Quick Look at KDE SC 4.5 Beta 1 | everyday linux how2s .::. Size~: 60.69 KB | Jun 07 22:10 |
| Techrights | Title: blog.volker-lanz.de » Blog Archive » KDE Partition Manager: New PartWidget Design .::. Size~: 29.62 KB | Jun 07 22:10 |
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| DaemonFC | DMCAT&T | Jun 07 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 07 22:12 |
| MinceR | Your world. Delivered. To the usian megacorps. | Jun 07 22:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Bumped Up, #Fedora Gets Good Reviews http://ur1.ca/0621t http://ur1.ca/0621u http://ur1.ca/0621v | Jun 07 22:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Hyperskull. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/35599.html | Jun 07 22:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx vs #Fedora 13 Goddard http://www.hackourlives.com/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-vs-fedora-13-goddard/ | Jun 07 22:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical to offer new #Ubuntu #Linux business support options http://ur1.ca/06241 | Jun 07 22:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Canonical's #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux in Review (10.04), Shuttleworth Interview http://flossed.org/node/299 http://ur1.ca/06240 | Jun 07 22:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Expected to Become the Dominant Phones Platforms, Many #Android Phones to Come http://ur1.ca/0625s http://ur1.ca/0625v | Jun 07 22:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Linux #Android Devices Arrive from #Innocomm, #Sony #Ericsson http://ur1.ca/06269 http://ur1.ca/0626a | Jun 07 22:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks and Google's #GNU #Linux Distribution Suitable for Adoption http://ur1.ca/0626m http://ur1.ca/0626n | Jun 07 22:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Asian Governments Use #FreeSoftware to Tackle #Copyright Issues, UK May Turn to it Also http://ur1.ca/062b5 http://ur1.ca/062b6 | Jun 07 23:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle 's #OpenOffice .org Passes 154,000,000 Downloads (Excluding Preinstallations) http://ur1.ca/062cb http://ur1.ca/062cd | Jun 07 23:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Heaps of #GNU #Linux Deployed in Hospitals by John Halamka http://ur1.ca/062cl | Jun 07 23:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Open Your World recap: Dr. John Halamka on healthcare, the stimulus, and standards | opensource.com .::. Size~: 41.03 KB | Jun 07 23:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I request Mozilla to solve this bug - <input/> tag should allow for device also. WebCam audio chat in html5 will be possible #html5 #mozilla | Jun 07 23:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] If you have purchased any laptop with preinstalled GNU/Linux based OS then Please update here http://bit.ly/aRWuaj | Jun 07 23:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: List of laptop with preinstalled GNU-Linux in India - LUG@IITD .::. Size~: 13.53 KB | Jun 07 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had wondered about that | Jun 07 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | would be nice if you didn't need flash to use Ustream | Jun 07 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | would throwing the expired eggs in the refrigerator at the hicks downstairs on the deck make me a bad person? | Jun 07 23:32 |
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| DaemonFC | "Hey kid! You ever been beaten to death by a satellite dish you knocked down?" | Jun 07 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 07 23:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Nokia N8 - http://events.nokia.com/NokiaN8/ #nokia #mobile | Jun 07 23:42 | |
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| *DaemonFC thinks Audioslave should get back together with jono as the lead singer | Jun 07 23:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Ooops it is not meego/android - RT: @nsisodiya: Nokia N8 - http://events.nokia.com/NokiaN8/ #nokia #mobile | Jun 07 23:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | Last.FM has really gone to shit | Jun 07 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | now the people downstairs are smoking Marijuana | Jun 07 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | on the deck | Jun 07 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's ballsy | Jun 07 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Google Goggles is one of the coolest technology - #google http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles | Jun 07 23:59 | |
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