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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mind_booster: Liked "Zangaram-se as comadres." http://ff.im/lDLZa ACAPOR e MAPiNET (good riddance, `as duas) | Jun 08 00:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Zangaram-se as comadres. - Ludwig Krippahl - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 7.22 KB | Jun 08 00:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @TMorais: Internet censorship harms schools - http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/26/internet-censorship.html | Jun 08 00:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Internet censorship harms schools - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 79.72 KB | Jun 08 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Samsung_Wave_Shipped_with_Infected_microSD_Card/551-111546-893.html | Jun 08 00:08 |
| Techrights | Title: Techtree.com India > News > Consumer Electronics > Samsung Wave Shipped with Infected microSD Card .::. Size~: 37.83 KB | Jun 08 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | bwahahahahahaha!!!!!! | Jun 08 00:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'The perpetrator is the problem, stupid.' - Andrea Dworkin | Jun 08 00:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @leonivek: Venture Capitalists Lobby Against Software Patents http://bit.ly/boe4lA #oss #linux | Jun 08 00:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Venture Capitalists Lobby Against Software Patents .::. Size~: 155.03 KB | Jun 08 00:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@NestleUSA saw your disclaimer re Beck. good news. Another issue associated with Nestlé is #deforestation. Hope you're working on that too. | Jun 08 00:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Then there's the fact that when a user does something that Microsoft doesn't like, they don't just ban the user, they ban the entire console, from XBOX Live. So any XBOX 360 you see for sale used could be totally banned from XBOX Live. (Console banned? Ditch it on eBay, sell it to Gamestop. Hey, I know! Buy a new one at Wal-Mart and return the banned one in the box with the reciept! This way you're not out any money at all!)" | Jun 08 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | from a post I'm doing about the XBOX 360 | Jun 08 00:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @camanpourABC Ban Ki Moon told me Netanyahu is considering positive moves to relieve the blockade //Actions. Louder than words, they are | Jun 08 00:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | The landlord is coming over, schestowitz | Jun 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I called him and told him about the feral children throwing a footbal at my livingroom window | Jun 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | and walking around on the rail on the back deck | Jun 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | reminded him he's liable in a civil suit if they fall off | Jun 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 00:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ruiseabra which ogg? | Jun 08 00:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @WorldPeace2Day RT @travelspynz Another cruise line cancels call in Israel http://newzfor.me/?3r37 //who'd risk being boarded by killers? | Jun 08 00:33 | |
| Techrights | Title: Another cruise line cancels call in Israel in wake of raid on aid flotilla .::. Size~: 21.85 KB | Jun 08 00:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Jun 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/06/07/samsung-no-compliance/#comments | Jun 08 00:37 |
| Techrights | Title: Samsung is a GPL Violator | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.81 KB | Jun 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "The interesting thing about violating the GPLv2 is that you then lose all rights to distribute anything under the GPLv2, until your rights are explicitly re-instated by the copyright holders you violated the license of. This legally speaking means that Samsung has lost the right to ship any product running Linux, until they get re-instated. This is something which was changed in the GPLv3, your rights get re-instated when you come | Jun 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | into compliance." | Jun 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | That's from a journalist... | Jun 08 00:37 |
| schestowitz | And distro developer | Jun 08 00:37 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] wimax is slow :( (200KB/s when the sun is in alignment) | Jun 08 00:38 | |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz I don't like how android ppl rallying behind flash to spite apple. It is still proprietary & we should help in its demise" | Jun 08 00:38 |
| schestowitz | agreed 100% | Jun 08 00:38 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz it is bullshit how adobe is claiming flash is open. Relative to apple maybe, but is is proprietary software from the ground up." | Jun 08 00:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @@eeefak agreed 100% | Jun 08 00:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35086550#notice-35268829 | Jun 08 00:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.65 KB | Jun 08 00:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] openMSX 0.8.0 released. No binary packages for GNU/Linux yet, only source code: http://tinyurl.com/39sg9c | Jun 08 00:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Samsung probalby ignores what the license says because nobody will sue them over breaching it anyway | Jun 08 00:46 |
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| Agent-Smith | Good evening folks | Jun 08 00:52 |
| Agent-Smith | Is Mr. Schestowitz around ??? | Jun 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Ahoy | Jun 08 00:53 |
| Agent-Smith | Hi There | Jun 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: say it then, to them, not to me | Jun 08 00:53 |
| Agent-Smith | You picked one of my instructionals today | Jun 08 00:53 |
| Agent-Smith | I am flattered | Jun 08 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, unless it's cheap for me to sue a multi-billion dollar company, I can't do much | Jun 08 00:54 |
| zoobab | hi | Jun 08 00:54 |
| Agent-Smith | Hi there gentlemen | Jun 08 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | if someone wants to sue them and use my name on the lawsuit, that's fine with me | Jun 08 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Agent-Smith: which one if your site? | Jun 08 00:56 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: hey | Jun 08 00:56 |
| schestowitz | ciaran in /. FP | Jun 08 00:56 |
| Agent-Smith | This one | Jun 08 00:56 |
| Agent-Smith | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/06/fixing-gtalk-connection-with-pidgin-27.html | Jun 08 00:56 |
| Techrights | Title: Fixing Gtalk Connection with Pidgin 2.7.* | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 67.61 KB | Jun 08 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | "You can send them up here and I'll use the belt on them if it's too much trouble to raise them!" -me to the neighbor downstairs regarding her misbehaved children | Jun 08 00:56 |
| Agent-Smith | I write to Mr. Saeed's blog | Jun 08 00:56 |
| zoobab | url? | Jun 08 00:58 |
| zoobab | back from vacation | Jun 08 00:58 |
| zoobab | you noticed no tweets for a while | Jun 08 00:58 |
| zoobab | I was away from keyboard | Jun 08 00:58 |
| zoobab | mostly | Jun 08 00:58 |
| Agent-Smith | www.ghabuntu.com | Jun 08 01:00 |
| Agent-Smith | And, of course, my Portuguese blog, http://tuxfunny.blogspot.com | Jun 08 01:00 |
| Techrights | Title: O Linux usado no dia-a-dia .::. Size~: 124.44 KB | Jun 08 01:01 |
| Agent-Smith | But, my english writings get much more attention... ;-) | Jun 08 01:01 |
| Agent-Smith | Thanks for picking up my little and humble article | Jun 08 01:02 |
| Agent-Smith | It's a compliment coming from you, Mr. Schestowitz | Jun 08 01:03 |
| schestowitz | www.ghabuntu.com? | Jun 08 01:03 |
| schestowitz | You write there? I loves that site | Jun 08 01:03 |
| Agent-Smith | This one belongs to Mr. Saaed | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | Saeed I mean | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | Yup | Jun 08 01:04 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, we're like online friends | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | I am the A | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | Yup, he's my FB friend too | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | And we are in tweeter and Identi.ca too | Jun 08 01:04 |
| Agent-Smith | I am, He, I don't know | Jun 08 01:05 |
| Agent-Smith | In tweeter, He is, I mean | Jun 08 01:05 |
| Agent-Smith | In Identi.ca, I guess he's not. | Jun 08 01:05 |
| ender2070 | agent-smith - did you tweet your tweeter | Jun 08 01:05 |
| Agent-Smith | Ok | Jun 08 01:06 |
| Agent-Smith | http://twitter.com/agente_smithe | Jun 08 01:06 |
| Techrights | Title: Agent Smith (agente_smithe) on Twitter .::. Size~: 25.85 KB | Jun 08 01:06 |
| Agent-Smith | This one is my Tweeter | Jun 08 01:06 |
| ender2070 | is your tweeter on twitpic.com ? | Jun 08 01:06 |
| Agent-Smith | No | Jun 08 01:06 |
| Agent-Smith | I never posted any pic in Twitpic | Jun 08 01:07 |
| Agent-Smith | And Identi.ca | Jun 08 01:07 |
| Agent-Smith | http://identi.ca/agentsmith/ | Jun 08 01:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software to process telephone calls patentable in Germany: http://ur1.ca/062wl | Jun 08 01:08 | |
| Agent-Smith | At least, on Identi.ca I could get the right Agent Smith | Jun 08 01:10 |
| Agent-Smith | ;-) | Jun 08 01:10 |
| zoobab | Agent Green | Jun 08 01:10 |
| zoobab | do you know John Green? | Jun 08 01:10 |
| zoobab | or Bob Smith? | Jun 08 01:11 |
| Agent-Smith | No, I do not know these persons | Jun 08 01:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reader’s Article: At the bottom of every large fail… http://ur1.ca/062xt Faulty “smart meters” and Microsoft’s involvement | Jun 08 01:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Readers Article: At the Bottom of Every Large Fail& | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.81 KB | Jun 08 01:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent Absurdity mailed to 200 policy setters: Ballmer, Kapos, Brad Smith, Steve Jobs, http://ur1.ca/062xu | Jun 08 01:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mailing Out Patent Absurdity .::. Size~: 53.11 KB | Jun 08 01:14 |
| yuhong | It seems thhttp://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/ | Jun 08 01:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Best Buy, Samsung, Westinghouse, And Eleven Other Brands Named In SFLC Lawsuit - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 7.47 KB | Jun 08 01:15 |
| yuhong | SFC is already suing. | Jun 08 01:16 |
| yuhong | SFLC is already suing. | Jun 08 01:16 |
| yuhong | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/ | Jun 08 01:16 |
| Techrights | Title: Best Buy, Samsung, Westinghouse, And Eleven Other Brands Named In SFLC Lawsuit - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 7.47 KB | Jun 08 01:16 |
| Agent-Smith | gr8 stuff to hear | Jun 08 01:17 |
| Agent-Smith | To read, I mean | Jun 08 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'd love to strangle that deaddite lady downstairs | Jun 08 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | almost enough to go to jail for it | Jun 08 01:20 |
| yuhong | Why is getting rid of software patents the only choice? | Jun 08 01:21 |
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| ender2070 | abuse | Jun 08 01:24 |
| Agent-Smith | Well, got to go gentlemen | Jun 08 01:24 |
| Agent-Smith | It was nice to be with you all | Jun 08 01:24 |
| Agent-Smith | Good night | Jun 08 01:24 |
| Agent-Smith | Best regards | Jun 08 01:24 |
| Agent-Smith | Bye | Jun 08 01:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@terrycojones worried abt those $400 crabs.If ppl r paying that much,they must surely b endangered? /pish-posh; free market will save them! | Jun 08 01:27 | |
| ender2070 | about the smart meters | Jun 08 01:28 |
| ender2070 | that means they have false data for electric use there in regards to the environment | Jun 08 01:28 |
| ender2070 | making it seem like people are power hungry | Jun 08 01:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @drgrist always thought #Obama had coiled, quiet anger to him..more impressive than #GWB's insecure bluster //prez personality irrelevant | Jun 08 01:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dworkin about the battered woman: 'if the husband is committed to #violence and she is not, she cannot win her safety or her #freedom.' #fem | Jun 08 01:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Kellbo0 just won a free ipad from this site :) didnt have 2 do much except some dumb survey+verify email! // & allow them to #spam tweet?? | Jun 08 01:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@a_picazo I feel u mischaracterise events of Dec/Jan 09 as a 'war'. It was intense bombing & barrage of trapped, unarmed population #gaza | Jun 08 01:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #DesktopBSD 's New Leadership Introduced http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/DesktopBSD-lives-on-under-new-leadership-1012825.html | Jun 08 01:42 | |
| Techrights | Title: DesktopBSD lives on under new leadership - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.38 KB | Jun 08 01:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Business is Built With Purely #GPL Software, Example of #SaaS Route http://ur1.ca/0630u http://ur1.ca/0630w | Jun 08 01:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@a_picazo I feel u mischaracterise Jan 09 action as a 'war' (1st para). intense bombing & barrage of trapped, defenceless population #gaza | Jun 08 01:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | now there's two sex offenders living here | Jun 08 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.insor.org/insasoweb/details.do?sid=365240.011 | Jun 08 01:47 |
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| DaemonFC | latest one, crazy woman next door's boyfriend | Jun 08 01:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Kellbo0 my acct hacked & spammed that "i won an ipad" shit... so pissed off. DO NOT CLICK ON THAT LINK //wasn't planning on it. Get A Mac! | Jun 08 01:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | I need to move out of here | Jun 08 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | the landlord is renting to sex offenders, alcoholics, drug addicts, prostitutes, and people with unruly children | Jun 08 01:52 |
| cubezzz | sounds like a madhouse | Jun 08 01:53 |
| cubezzz | but at least there's no murderers? :) | Jun 08 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I hope | Jun 08 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | there might be if they annoy me a bit more | Jun 08 01:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece Did #IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims? Shot in the Back By DAVE LINDORFF http://tinyurl.com/2bz88un // exactly as ordered | Jun 08 01:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece Did #IDF Execute Mavi Marmara Victims? Shot in the Back http://tinyurl.com/2bz88un // these facts suppressed from US media | Jun 08 02:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is sponsoring #LinuxTag in order to be end up “injecting Microsoft content into the conference” http://ur1.ca/0633w | Jun 08 02:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Has Already Hurt LinuxTag by Paying It | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.09 KB | Jun 08 02:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Schlussel: ur 'giant fact' is, indeed, completely irrelevant to whether #Israel's murder on flotilla is a crime &act of war. h/t @BinaBecker | Jun 08 02:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Org9 I would like very much to see a WOMAN leader of the #lpc & on to be a female PM // elizabeth may? #cdnpoli #harperMustGo | Jun 08 02:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Developments in #Linux #Kernel Space and #Graphics Stack http://ur1.ca/0634o http://ur1.ca/0634q http://ur1.ca/0634s | Jun 08 02:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's Role in #GNU #Linux Desktop Changes How the Platform is Positioned http://ur1.ca/0634m http://ur1.ca/0634p | Jun 08 02:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Question: quick way in X to make AltGr an additional Ctrl key? I'm really missing right-Ctrl on the mini 9 ... | Jun 08 02:17 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TE86DebbLUukbb/HUbnQgbizCz7ef | Jun 08 02:17 |
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| DaemonFC | the Huntington, Indiana police | Jun 08 02:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo 'imperative that US, Canada,& enablers of Israeli Apartheid recognize their role in creating crisis' http://bit.ly/d8IUV6 #gaza | Jun 08 02:20 | |
| Techrights | Title: The crisis in Gaza -- an international tipping point | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 44.83 KB | Jun 08 02:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Does Not Need ‘Saving’ http://techrights.org/2010/06/07/eric-knorr-on-desktop-linux/ | Jun 08 02:28 | |
| Techrights | Title: Desktop GNU/Linux Does Not Need Saving | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.68 KB | Jun 08 02:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Unverified Claim: Sam Ransbotham's Belittling of Free/Libre Software Funded by Microsoft http://ur1.ca/063cn | Jun 08 02:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Distro Wars Depiction, #Gentoo Screenshots Contest http://ur1.ca/063cv http://ur1.ca/063cx | Jun 08 02:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Overview of Desktop Environments for #GNU #Linux , #GNOME Desktop Themes Gallery http://ur1.ca/063ct http://ur1.ca/063cu | Jun 08 02:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://images.apple.com/safari/images/whatsnew_bing_screen_20100607.jpg | Jun 08 02:59 |
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| cubezzz | well PLIP isn't working too well | Jun 08 02:59 |
| cubezzz | evidently it will not assign an IRQ to the parallel port :-/ | Jun 08 03:00 |
| cubezzz | I'll tell my customer to boot into DOS on both sides and use laplink, it will be much faster that way. | Jun 08 03:00 |
| cubezzz | of course ethernet is faster still, but he wants a backup system that doesn't use the router | Jun 08 03:01 |
| cubezzz | he'll just have to use 8.3 filenames | Jun 08 03:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they 'pull a Ubuntu 10.04' | Jun 08 03:01 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft would pay for such images to exist, even just to put off Mac users | Jun 08 03:02 |
| cubezzz | I didn't think Microsoft wanted to kill Mac any more | Jun 08 03:02 |
| cubezzz | I think the days of "killing" are over yes? | Jun 08 03:03 |
| schestowitz | Site rank2297 | Jun 08 03:03 |
| schestowitz | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=boycottnovell.com | Jun 08 03:03 |
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| schestowitz | Site rank1716 | Jun 08 03:03 |
| schestowitz | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://techrights.org | Jun 08 03:03 |
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| schestowitz | Th new domain is outgrowing the old one | Jun 08 03:03 |
| cubezzz | less typing too :) | Jun 08 03:04 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft needs to soften up | Jun 08 03:05 |
| schestowitz | microfy itself too | Jun 08 03:05 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 08 03:05 |
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| ender2070 | cubezzz - you would love openbsd | Jun 08 03:16 |
| cubezzz | oh? | Jun 08 03:16 |
| ender2070 | very bare bones | Jun 08 03:17 |
| ender2070 | and you can get kde 3.5.10 for it | Jun 08 03:17 |
| ender2070 | i imagine it would be really fast | Jun 08 03:17 |
| cubezzz | yeah I was looking at a whole mess of stuff yesterday | Jun 08 03:17 |
| ender2070 | they have arm ports too | Jun 08 03:18 |
| cubezzz | and dos itself was good for games when you think about it | Jun 08 03:18 |
| cubezzz | no mmu = faster access | Jun 08 03:18 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, arm with KDE 3.5 does sound interesting | Jun 08 03:19 |
| cubezzz | I got to try that assembler OS though :) | Jun 08 03:19 |
| ender2070 | minuet? | Jun 08 03:19 |
| cubezzz | can't remember how it was spelt exactly... yeah I think that's it | Jun 08 03:19 |
| ender2070 | seems cool | Jun 08 03:20 |
| cubezzz | not great for modding though | Jun 08 03:20 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 08 03:20 |
| cubezzz | but I'm curious | Jun 08 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | heh, Limewire Pro has AVG Antivirus in it | Jun 08 03:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@ishtarmuz @RWfreckles #youbmightbealiberal if you DESPISE "oligarchy," unlike @glennbeck & #FOX | Jun 08 03:22 | |
| ender2070 | that way you get infected for sure | Jun 08 03:25 |
| cubezzz | I'll stick it into the FOSS section anyway | Jun 08 03:25 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MenuetOS | Jun 08 03:25 |
| Techrights | Title: MenuetOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 37.99 KB | Jun 08 03:25 |
| cubezzz | "yet it still fits on one 1.44MB floppy disk" ;-) | Jun 08 03:26 |
| cubezzz | that guy is dedicated :) | Jun 08 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | 1993 forever!!! | Jun 08 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | Wayne's World | Jun 08 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | Party Time | Jun 08 03:27 |
| cubezzz | ender2070, going to try it tonight | Jun 08 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | Excellent!!! | Jun 08 03:27 |
| ender2070 | you know whats small? icewm | Jun 08 03:29 |
| cubezzz | imagine if it ran fast on a 486 :) | Jun 08 03:29 |
| ender2070 | I think it does | Jun 08 03:29 |
| ender2070 | the filesize for the bsd version is 993 KB | Jun 08 03:29 |
| cubezzz | I need it on disk for the 486 as my old cdrom doesn't work | Jun 08 03:31 |
| cubezzz | old style sony | Jun 08 03:31 |
| cubezzz | it can use old style panasonic too | Jun 08 03:31 |
| ender2070 | as it comes its basicly a win95 taskbar clone that launches apps | Jun 08 03:31 |
| ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWM | Jun 08 03:32 |
| Techrights | Title: IceWM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 62.9 KB | Jun 08 03:33 |
| cubezzz | yeah I tried TWM and it was just too sparse | Jun 08 03:33 |
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| cubezzz | KDE just got too elaborate | Jun 08 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.eitb.com/news/detail/438838/157-year-old-women-discovered-indonesia/ | Jun 08 03:40 |
| Techrights | Title: 157-year old women 'discovered' in Indonesia - EiTB News .::. Size~: 23.8 KB | Jun 08 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | fake | Jun 08 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 08 03:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #g20 'cost could rise to perhaps as much as $2 billion' #fakelake #cdnpoli http://bit.ly/byAqBO #HarperMustGo | Jun 08 04:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: Tories defend $2M fake lake being built for summit - thestar.com .::. Size~: 78.64 KB | Jun 08 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, No yacht included with that? | Jun 08 04:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Does the #fakelake include #bustyhookers? What a year. #cdnpoli #HarperMustGo | Jun 08 04:06 | |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, That makes the US federal government look frugal | Jun 08 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 08 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's bad | Jun 08 04:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Transcribers needed to help with Frets On Fire: Severed Fifth Edition - see http://bit.ly/bbH4VJ for how to get involved! #severedfifth | Jun 08 04:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Frets On Fire: Severed Fifth Edition Transcribers Needed! | Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 18.22 KB | Jun 08 04:14 |
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| WireWulf | o/ | Jun 08 04:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@Nana_Berri #YouKnowYouFromThaSouth when people say stuff like "it wah bout yay long" // that's commonly used in Australia #whoknew | Jun 08 04:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #g20 protest zones, sound cannons; Poor Steve, terrified of fellow Canadians, but they will soon be rid of you & your petty dictator's toys | Jun 08 04:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ex-Marine O'Keefe on Flotilla disarmed & gave first aid to 3 #Israel commandos after seeing them kill friends on board: http://bit.ly/bQ8W7y | Jun 08 05:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] ...yet after this demonstration of pure humanity, was, like other captives, abused continuously in #Israel's custody. http://bit.ly/bQ8W7y | Jun 08 05:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@IlllllllllllllI What a huge asshole // I guess Lamo wants to prove his re-education is complete now. Plus afraid. @wikileaks | Jun 08 05:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'only thing that every1 seems to agree upon is how stupid all the other programmers are' http://bit.ly/d5zBe6 via @terrycojones #programming | Jun 08 05:47 | |
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| cubezzz | hey hey basic linux 3.5 running on 486 :) | Jun 08 05:55 |
| WireWulf | 3.6 can run on a i486 | Jun 08 05:56 |
| WireWulf | xD | Jun 08 05:56 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz: 3.5? | Jun 08 05:57 |
| WireWulf | i thought it was 2.6.34 was the latest :P | Jun 08 05:57 |
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| cubezzz | nope, 3.5 for us modern dudes | Jun 08 05:59 |
| cubezzz | oh you mean the kernel version? | Jun 08 05:59 |
| cubezzz | this is 2.2.26 :) | Jun 08 05:59 |
| cubezzz | basic linux 3.5 they call it, but it runs 2.2 kernel | Jun 08 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/06/2150212/Australian-Police-Ask-Facebook-For-Police-Alarm-Button | Jun 08 06:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Now I can cyberbully someone in Australia and turn myself in with one click | Jun 08 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 08 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | how cool | Jun 08 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | I never understood how someone can kill themselves, of their own free will, hundreds or thousands of miles away, and it's your fault | Jun 08 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | laws.... :P | Jun 08 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | go figure | Jun 08 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, kill yourself, nobody likes you, you smell funny | Jun 08 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 08 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 08 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | (j/k) | Jun 08 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | don't kill yourself | Jun 08 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be liable | Jun 08 06:03 |
| cubezzz | and not use my mighty 486? | Jun 08 06:03 |
| cubezzz | unthinkable | Jun 08 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | slit your wrists with the 486 | Jun 08 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | (no, seriously, don't) | Jun 08 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | they need to make a pill that makes hair grow slower | Jun 08 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | cure the problem of having too much hair | Jun 08 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Jun 08 06:07 |
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| cubezzz | most guys want to keep their hair | Jun 08 06:07 |
| cubezzz | at least I do | Jun 08 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | well, once you're over 40, you switch to the pills that grow hair | Jun 08 06:08 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah, I'll invent a pill that makes you bald | Jun 08 06:08 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jun 08 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | that way you're their customer for life | Jun 08 06:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ari Fleischer, meet Ari-zona: Ari, do you support *involuntary* removal of Mexicans 'occupying' 'your' country? #hypocrisy #rwnj #israel | Jun 08 06:09 | |
| DaemonFC | then they can get Medicaid to pay for it | Jun 08 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Male Pattern Hairyness | Jun 08 06:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ari Fleischer: voluntary respect of 1967 borders by #israel is not 'religious cleansing,' you ridiculous twit. | Jun 08 06:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | then disability lawyers will advertise for it | Jun 08 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Are you disabled by Male Pattern Hairyness? You may qualify for Social Security if it keeps you from working!" | Jun 08 06:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@shoq well maybe not, I am sure plastics have advanced a lot in 30 years, no thanks to that hippie Benjamin Braddock | Jun 08 06:11 | |
| Diablo-D3 | [01:05:43] -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell- [qu1j0t3] Ari Fleischer: voluntary respect of 1967 borders by #israel is not 'religious cleansing,' you ridiculous twit. | Jun 08 06:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have not laughed this hard in awhile | Jun 08 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Don't let government bureaucrats tell you that you can work" | Jun 08 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | "What do they know about Male Pattern Hairyness?" | Jun 08 06:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@shoq well maybe not, I am sure #plastics have advanced a lot in 30 years, no thanks to that hippie Benjamin Braddock | Jun 08 06:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/06/06/1344256/Apples-HTML5-and-Standards-Gallery-Not-Standard?art_pos=37 | Jun 08 06:14 |
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| DaemonFC | They are standard on every Mac! | Jun 08 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | What are they talking about? :P | Jun 08 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 08 06:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: has samsung agreed to pony up the source code yet? | Jun 08 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jun 08 06:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | jesus christ | Jun 08 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | their dog ate it | Jun 08 06:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Helen Thomas suggested nothing more than Brzezinski very sensibly did. http://bit.ly/d8IUV6 via @a_picazo #israel #gaza | Jun 08 06:16 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | why doesnt everyone have DaemonFC on ignore by now | Jun 08 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Because you are not interesting enough. Diablo-D3 | Jun 08 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/06/0518216/Google-Backed-Wind-Powered-Car-Goes-Faster-Than-the-Wind?art_pos=40 | Jun 08 06:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Google-Backed Wind-Powered Car Goes Faster Than the Wind .::. Size~: 166.27 KB | Jun 08 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | "A wind-powered car has been clocked in the US traveling downwind 2.85 times faster than the 13.5 mph wind" | Jun 08 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | 25 miles an hour | Jun 08 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | if it could only do 30, you could pass the old lady in front | Jun 08 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | I know, a wind hybrid that switches over to gas when the wind isn't blowing | Jun 08 06:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If you don't want to hear Helen Thomas defended, go ahead an unfollow now. | Jun 08 06:19 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 08 06:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: question will it react the point that is speed forwards is generating enough wind to self power itself. | Jun 08 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | they do this kind of crap all the time | Jun 08 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | then you never hear about it again | Jun 08 06:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear Followers who live in/are from the region: opinions on the book "#Israel, Palestinians and The #Intifada" (Aronson)? | Jun 08 06:21 | |
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| oiaohm | Not exactly DaemonFC | Jun 08 06:22 |
| oiaohm | it normally appears as something else. | Jun 08 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | I think people invent energy efficient cars and alternate fuels just so the oil companies will cut them a fat check to go away | Jun 08 06:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@aurich109 you seem to misunderstand the words 'semitic,' and 'hate'. Go find a dictionary. | Jun 08 06:23 | |
| oiaohm | Lot of the tech does come threw. | Jun 08 06:24 |
| oiaohm | The biggest annoyance is breaks that don't need break pads. | Jun 08 06:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@GreeGreece #Israel asked #US for more, bigger weapons http://tinyurl.com/2ew2w7b //proves both countries' total commitment 2 regional #war | Jun 08 06:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Israel asked U.S. to increase weapons supply, Haaretz learns - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 56.72 KB | Jun 08 06:27 |
| oiaohm | is busybox in that mix of software? DaemonFC | Jun 08 06:34 |
| oiaohm | Those developers love sending legal after them. DaemonFC | Jun 08 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 08 06:35 |
| oiaohm | Ok inform the busybox developers about it. Its one of the way they fund there development is sueing stupid companies ass off. | Jun 08 06:36 |
| oiaohm | Because you can bet if they broke it on one product the broke it on a lot more. | Jun 08 06:36 |
| oiaohm | Ie wise company would at least hand over busybox's software. | Jun 08 06:37 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I jsut sent them an email | Jun 08 06:41 |
| oiaohm | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2009/busybox-complaint-2009-12-14.pdf | Jun 08 06:42 |
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| oiaohm | Hmm interesting busybox is already under way against samsung | Jun 08 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Yours is more fuel to there skin cat nature. | Jun 08 06:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'On the Internet, nobody knows you're a Hebe' http://is.gd/cFVNz via @ggreenwald Winant: Helen Thomas 'wrong kind of racist' for right wing | Jun 08 06:46 | |
| Techrights | Title: The right's Helen Thomas hypocrisy - Israel - Salon.com .::. Size~: 130.53 KB | Jun 08 06:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] This is what people like Palin bring to the planet: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html | Jun 08 06:54 | |
| Techrights | Title: Caught in the oil - The Big Picture - Boston.com .::. Size~: 107.01 KB | Jun 08 06:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@timoreilly RT @ericries Words #Apple nvr wants to hear-"Code 4 Android 1st, iPhone/iPad 2nd." http://bit.ly/axzfiC //code for all: web app | Jun 08 07:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: louisgray.com: iPhone 4 Is Nice, But It's Not Enough to Slow Android .::. Size~: 67.6 KB | Jun 08 07:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @EmergentCulture Attendee List of #Bilderberg Conference http://bit.ly/bxP7O0 //roll call of corporate criminals. #Microsoft sends Mundie | Jun 08 07:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Took me a moment to figure out why teh #rwnj are frothing over Sloot. | Jun 08 07:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @GreeGreece The way to lie about another #war: John Pilger http://tinyurl.com/2cejplr // Brilliant, as always. #mustread #israel #gaza | Jun 08 07:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@mrpower Nice summary of Cohen's public breakdown RT @GreeGreece Nick Cohen's Nazi confusion http://tinyurl.com/232wjy9 | Jun 08 07:42 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Statesman - Nick Cohen's Nazi confusion .::. Size~: 59.51 KB | Jun 08 07:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'is Mandela, who described Palestine as "greatest moral issue of the age", a lazy anti-Semitic liberal as well?' http://tinyurl.com/232wjy9 | Jun 08 07:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Detailed Review of the Recently-released #Pardus #GNU #Linux 2009.2 http://ur1.ca/064lh | Jun 08 07:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Reviews: Quirky 1.2, Arch, Slackware, and PLoP http://ur1.ca/064li http://ur1.ca/064lk http://ur1.ca/064ll http://ur1.ca/064lo | Jun 08 07:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mrpower @GilesCoren is like a stroppy teenager with a tiny penis. http://is.gd/cGQpz // I enjoy Coren + this is a great takedown :) | Jun 08 07:50 | |
| schestowitz | "openbsd packages mono in its collection, available on mirrors" http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=ender2070&inreplyto=35301319 | Jun 08 07:50 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. | Jun 08 07:50 |
| Techrights | Title: Cradle to Grave A Look at Arch Linux LINUX For You Magazine .::. Size~: 81.42 KB | Jun 08 07:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #PCLinuxOS 2010.1 With #KDE http://wamukota.blogspot.com/2010/06/pclinuxos-20101-kde4.html | Jun 08 07:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.10: Potential Enrichment of Theme, Early Screenshots & Impressions http://ur1.ca/064nb http://ur1.ca/064nc | Jun 08 07:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] '08 Commenters on McCain prodrilling position http://bit.ly/agGn09 'pics of birds covered w/ #oil=whiny 70s ecofilms we were forced 2 watch' | Jun 08 08:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Top McCain Bundler Allegedly Bagged Lucrative Pentagon Iraq Contract Through Jordanian Connection .::. Size~: 142.16 KB | Jun 08 08:06 |
| amarsh04 | Australian Broadcasting Corporation has been covering patenting human genes today http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2921333.htm | Jun 08 08:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux is Big in the Realms of the Very Small http://ur1.ca/064pq http://ur1.ca/064pr #embedded #device | Jun 08 08:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux With #KDE 4.4: #Kubuntu 10.04 Works Great http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/06/06/my-perfect-kubuntu-10-04-desktop/ | Jun 08 08:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @PauloTrezentos: ASE 2010 http://39lo.sl.pt. Paper presents new approach to better Linux dependencies solving. Work was developed w/INESC | Jun 08 08:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @BoingBoing: Terrorists figure out how to get America to attack itself: leave harmless, "suspicious" ba... http://bit.ly/cyVDTf | Jun 08 08:16 | |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: thanks, added | Jun 08 08:17 |
| amarsh04 | np schestowitz | Jun 08 08:19 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: | Jun 08 08:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/214257%2Czombie-pcs-to-be-throttled- | Jun 08 08:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/214257%2Czombie-pcs-to-be-throttled-isolated-under-new-isp-code.aspx | Jun 08 08:29 |
| Techrights | Title: Zombie PCs to be throttled, isolated under new ISP code - Security - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au .::. Size~: 72.95 KB | Jun 08 08:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @LuisaTurtle I'm waiting for a household cleanser ad featuring a man doing the cleaning.. // that could be a breakthrough concept :) | Jun 08 08:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @glynmoody Zaragoza moves to full open source desktop - http://bit.ly/cgIqIz Spain's Munich? //hoping for #Microsoft's Waterloo, actually | Jun 08 08:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@IlllllllllllllI fucking hunter thompson is shitting on my attempts to find a decent picture of gonzo. // -hunter -thompson | Jun 08 08:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Zaragoza's move to complete open source desktop going to plan - http://bit.ly/cgIqIz Spain's Munich? #opensource #migration | Jun 08 08:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] As usual, vendor lock-in effects are the biggest challenges. Get rid of the toxic waste! :) | Jun 08 08:41 | |
| *amarsh04 only heard of Zaragoza during space shuttle launches | Jun 08 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | Football team.... | Jun 08 08:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets With #Linux Are Disrupting Apple: Foxconn, Viliv, Others http://ur1.ca/05cuc http://ur1.ca/064wi http://ur1.ca/064wk | Jun 08 08:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Motorola Puts #Linux Everywhere http://ur1.ca/064wh http://ur1.ca/064wj http://ur1.ca/064wl http://ur1.ca/064wm http://ur1.ca/064wn | Jun 08 08:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Novell ploughs on but "The commercial bottom line appears to be less healthy." http://is.gd/cGUtq #sale | Jun 08 08:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'where there's large amounts of #immigration, eg Mex-US border...no trace of downward pressure on wages or conditions' http://bit.ly/9vPQOb+ | Jun 08 08:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hey @bitly the single function I need from you, copy a short URL, doesn't work with Flash disabled. #fail | Jun 08 08:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Hey $BIGBANK, yr user interface 'innovations' make your online banking site much more annoying to use than if you simply used #HTML widgets. | Jun 08 08:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #AOL Takeover by #Microsoft is Just a Rumour from One Unnamed Source http://ur1.ca/064yb #opera #apple #google | Jun 08 09:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] On Situations Where Turning One's Internal Application Into #FreeSoftware Would be Right http://ur1.ca/064yf http://ur1.ca/064yi | Jun 08 09:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets Are in: #Linux in Up, #Microsoft is Down http://ur1.ca/064ye http://ur1.ca/064yh | Jun 08 09:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Eclipse say that developers are turning towards Linux. http://is.gd/cGVax #floss #foss #linux | Jun 08 09:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Crappy weather + crappy traffic = crappy commute = crabby popey. Bah! | Jun 08 09:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Australia Sets a Good Example for Handling of #Microsoft #Windows Botnets http://ur1.ca/0651m #security | Jun 08 09:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysis of Gender Distribution in #FreeSoftware Development http://opentechexchange.org/node/67 | Jun 08 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mrpower @stephenfry: Of all foolish, ignorant,..misbegotten notions http://bit.ly/9eXRFB //Estinel must be, like, a real hoot at parties | Jun 08 09:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Linux plug computer for energy management in the home. http://is.gd/cGWG9 #floss #foss | Jun 08 09:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] LinuxTag not running on Sunday, only Wed+Thu+Fri+Sat, why organisators do not pick the week-end, no holidays during the week? #linuxtag | Jun 08 09:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] International plan for exascale foss software. http://is.gd/cGXfZ #floss #iesp | Jun 08 09:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSource Wi-Fi Hotspot Choices, Why #Virtualisation and Open Source Fit Well http://ur1.ca/06595 http://ur1.ca/06596 | Jun 08 09:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IndexedDB in #Firefox 4 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/06/comparing-indexeddb-and-webdatabase/ | Jun 08 09:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox Plus-ins That Amuse http://ur1.ca/06597 http://ur1.ca/06599 http://ur1.ca/0659b | Jun 08 09:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] DHHS will soon provide an updated set of guidelines for digital health records. http://is.gd/cGYxy #floss #foss | Jun 08 10:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Transformation of Form Factors Leaves #Microsoft Behind and #GNU #Linux Well Ahead http://ur1.ca/065ct | Jun 08 10:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Time travel is possible! OMG!Ubuntu! proves it with a post on GNU/Linux vs Linux. Welcome to 1999 http://bit.ly/a6sZAx | Jun 08 10:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Government Investigation Into #Apple ’s Practices Goes Deeper, #Microsoft Pushes for Similar Action Against #Google http://ur1.ca/065ek | Jun 08 10:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Everonn partners with Haryana for Computer education (BOOT) http://post.ly/iooU | Jun 08 10:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Ex EPO "economist" want comments on his paper on "Patent quality"? But what does patent quality means? Good monopolies? http://ur1.ca/065f8 | Jun 08 10:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RE: @bigbrovar Thanks for the nice article. However there is a much more easy way to install the non-free codecs, flas… http://disq.us/dp9fn | Jun 08 10:34 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 08 10:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #apple #bigbrother #facetime ♺ @carlopiana: @jwildeboer Have you read this http://bit.ly/doecD8 ? Big brotherish, innit? | Jun 08 11:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra #apple #bigbrother #facetime ♺ @carlopiana: @jwildeboer Have you read this http://bit.ly/doecD8 ? Big brotherish, innit? | Jun 08 11:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] is it a good choice to store user created svg files inside MySql database at server ? #svg #mysql #publicsketch | Jun 08 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/110186/developer-survey-reveals-greater-linux-development | Jun 08 11:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] People who make healthcheck documents in hundreds of *powerpoint* slides should be shot without mercy. | Jun 08 11:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What a badly written IDG article: http://ur1.ca/065w1 "Open-source software is usually free and often public domain." Huh? | Jun 08 11:52 | |
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| oiaohm_ | Not really schestowitz | Jun 08 11:52 |
| oiaohm_ | Don't you get it yet. MS and others want the Idea that open source is no different to public domain so they can do what ever they like with it. | Jun 08 11:53 |
| oiaohm_ | Its not bady written its intentional. | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure | Jun 08 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Seems like a new writer there | Jun 08 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Sub-par | Jun 08 11:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: RT @clarinette02 RT @stoppacta: Australian senator Lundy raises #ACTA concerns http://bit.ly/aPOD1R #StopACTA | Jun 08 11:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Has a New Lock-in Model: #FogComputing http://techrights.org/2010/06/08/kentucky-cloud/ | Jun 08 12:05 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: hey | Jun 08 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Where does the claim that IBM pays $2 million per year to SFLC come from? | Jun 08 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Moglen says, there are $2 million for "lawyers and strategists" to protect the freedom of Free software (2007) | Jun 08 12:14 |
| oiaohm_ | SFLC does get a lot of funding from a lot of sources. | Jun 08 12:19 |
| oiaohm_ | 2 million is a small number. | Jun 08 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.japancorp.net/Article.Asp?Art_ID=22801 | Jun 08 12:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @richardfontana According to scotusblog.com, #SCOTUS issues opinions in three cases, but no #Bilski #swpats | Jun 08 12:23 | |
| zoobab | hi | Jun 08 12:24 |
| zoobab | no idea | Jun 08 12:24 |
| zoobab | did not know about that | Jun 08 12:24 |
| zoobab | what is the source? | Jun 08 12:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techeye.net/business/microsoft-sued-over-bing-patents | Jun 08 12:24 |
| Techrights | Title: Law: Microsoft sued over Bing patents - Search and ye shall find | TechEye .::. Size~: 18.52 KB | Jun 08 12:24 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: Florian's surce | Jun 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I remember how you said they sell the "medicine" | Jun 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe Andre | Jun 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I listened to many episodes of SFL[software] | Jun 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | And they mentioned the funding thing | Jun 08 12:25 |
| schestowitz | SFL[Show] I meant | Jun 08 12:26 |
| schestowitz | This one: | Jun 08 12:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/2009/oct/27/0x19/ | Jun 08 12:26 |
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| schestowitz | I support the SFLC, but I want to understand the reality | Jun 08 12:28 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot of taboo subject in FOSS, one of which is OIN | Jun 08 12:28 |
| schestowitz | *subjects | Jun 08 12:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] 60 percent of the gas reserves along the Gaza-Israel coastline belong to Palestine. http://is.gd/cH5YF #occupation | Jun 08 12:32 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes-2.5.html | Jun 08 12:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/leak/ | Jun 08 12:41 |
| Techrights | Title: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 97.75 KB | Jun 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Can't find out why civilians were shot... | Jun 08 12:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dear Atlantic. Google is not killing journalism http://ur1.ca/00y5p journalism fails to evolve, compete | Jun 08 12:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digitisation of information and the Internet have the same effect on code as it have on readable text.. demand and supply meet lower down | Jun 08 12:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/27221/20100607/turkey-internet-google.htm | Jun 08 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Isiots. | Jun 08 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | *Idiot. They hold back their own progress by withholding tools | Jun 08 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Sooner or later they realise they cripple their own scientists, retract the ban, and still look like idiots | Jun 08 12:48 |
| schestowitz | http://drdemento.com/ is dead | Jun 08 12:49 |
| Techrights | Title: The Online Internet Site for Information on Dr. Demento music, songs, lyrics and chat. .::. Size~: 59.38 KB | Jun 08 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Projection _one_ *decade* ahead? :-) :-) http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/75-of-new-zealanders-to-get-100mbps-fiber-by-2020.ars | Jun 08 12:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MSBBC covers a lot of pseudo-science these days http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/10237314.stm It's embarrassing :-) | Jun 08 12:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going out in central London with people from work tonight. Could be a messy one. | Jun 08 12:56 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: you were right. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/global/07euro.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | Jun 08 12:59 |
| Techrights | Title: News Analysis - Hungary Is Playing Political Games on Debt - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 74.8 KB | Jun 08 12:59 |
| oiaohm_ | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/windows-phone-7-marketplace-to-be-porn-free-zone.ars Interesting. | Jun 08 13:09 |
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| oiaohm_ | Seams like Apple and MS are going to pay the child friendly card. | Jun 08 13:16 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/16271/help_im_out_of_bandwidth_and_i_cant_get_my_demo_up | Jun 08 13:19 |
| Techrights | Title: Help! I'm out of bandwidth and I can't get my demo up! - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 64.07 KB | Jun 08 13:19 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm_: LOL | Jun 08 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Windows Phone 7 Marketplace to be app-free zone | Jun 08 13:19 |
| schestowitz | They have nothing | Jun 08 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they should also ban users :-) | Jun 08 13:19 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm_: it's just PR, like the whose "green" blurb | Jun 08 13:20 |
| schestowitz | *Whole | Jun 08 13:20 |
| oiaohm_ | Difference is cost PR. | Jun 08 13:22 |
| oiaohm_ | People fail to see the money that is made by porn per year its a god darn long. | Jun 08 13:22 |
| oiaohm_ | long/lot | Jun 08 13:23 |
| amarsh04 | DaemonFC should write to help@softwarefreedom.org, they claim that Samsung settled: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2010/jun/07/motion-against-westinghouse-digital-electronics-gp/ | Jun 08 13:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Motion Against Westinghouse Digital Electronics in GPL Compliance Lawsuit - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 4.57 KB | Jun 08 13:23 |
| oiaohm_ | I think my word swap issue is coming catching. schestowitz | Jun 08 13:36 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: I'll tell ryan when he's back | Jun 08 13:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Person who emailed me seems confused. I don't hate #Israel. I hate what they do / have done / are doing. If you can't see the difference... | Jun 08 13:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @hsfreethinkers "IN DEFENSE OF HELEN THOMAS - on apologizing to apologists": http://j.mp/9gsRKN #p2 // excellent. #israel | Jun 08 13:56 | |
| Techrights | Title: IN DEFENSE OF HELEN THOMAS - on apologizing to apologists - Reality Asserts Itself .::. Size~: 126.69 KB | Jun 08 13:56 |
| amarsh04 | thanks schestowitz | Jun 08 13:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Much touted "freedom of speech" extends only to "speech we like," it would seem. #AIPAC Helen Thomas | Jun 08 14:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @0r3z don't believe #Obama can kick ass even a little bit. But he's good at misleading the dumb masses //agreed. it's the president's job | Jun 08 14:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @guardianeco In pictures: Oil-affected wildlife in the Gulf of Mexico http://bit.ly/b1Rpmg // must see #oil @SarahPalinUSA this is yours | Jun 08 14:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @FFII European Parliament "calls for greater investment in the use of open source software in the EU" http://bit.ly/c2XbEw | Jun 08 14:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: REPORT Report on a new Digital Agenda for Europe: 2015.eu - A7-0066/2010 .::. Size~: 142.25 KB | Jun 08 14:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] «European charter of users' rights (...) this should include in particular users’ rights relating to digital content» http://bit.ly/c2XbEw | Jun 08 14:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] With relation to last status message: be afraid... be very afraid. | Jun 08 14:46 | |
| Techrights | Title: REPORT Report on a new Digital Agenda for Europe: 2015.eu - A7-0066/2010 .::. Size~: 142.25 KB | Jun 08 14:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] British govt looking for pub where its #g20 delegates can watch World Cup. http://bit.ly/bxrO4o Surely answer must be to build a fake pub. | Jun 08 14:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear $HUGE_MULTINATIONAL_BANK, the typos & #ui problems on your online #banking site really don't inspire confidence. | Jun 08 15:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Support Mozilla. Get our 2010 t-shirt. http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/openwebfund #Mozilla #fund | Jun 08 15:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @caostheory The Gov of Malta issued a directive giving preference to OSS in all government projects http://bit.ly/cCEabz | Jun 08 15:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] It's america, they can sue you for breathing. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080404110651AATy94z | Jun 08 15:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @carlopiana: Malta #rocks: http://ur1.ca/06722 law to prefer #freesoftware in procurement. Via @maslett | Jun 08 15:15 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] http://2tu.us/27af | Jun 08 15:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Train Station [pic] http://ff.im/lGcfY | Jun 08 15:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ ELDING @rebeccay Elton John sucks? If you could Robin Hood $1mln from Rush to give to an #AIDS charity // money trumps principle, natch | Jun 08 15:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@bitly @qu1j0t3 thanks for the feedback; we are in the progress of fixing that! // noted; thanks very much for response! | Jun 08 16:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Watching news 24 on the bbc hilarious the two presenters obviously do not like each other, they would dearly love to have a big row. | Jun 08 16:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | Safari is the new Internet Explorer | Jun 08 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Busybox replied to my email | Jun 08 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | they are interested in going after Samsung | Jun 08 16:24 |
| amarsh04 | yes, DaemonFC, have you written to help@softwarefreedom.org, they claim that Samsung settled: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2010/jun/07/motion-against-westinghouse-digital-electronics-gp/ | Jun 08 16:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Our Chancellor of the exchequer is out of his depth. I wonder how he will be seen in 10 years time. | Jun 08 16:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 3 weeks before #G20 starts, the security bullshit alone is already worth protesting. http://bit.ly/bJcUI6 #HarperMustGo | Jun 08 16:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | I've included screenshots from the player menu and a recording of the voicemail I received from their "executive support department". If there's anything else I can do, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. | Jun 08 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | -Ryan Farmer | Jun 08 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 08 16:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Would be really nice not to see any FF #Museo for a while. #overdose #typography | Jun 08 17:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RT @muttoninn: @jonobacon at dads graduation. http://twitpic.com/1uz9vl | Jun 08 17:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Accused of "bullying" for replacing my own software page with a text protesting #flotilla massacre. Killing is ok but protesting it is not.. | Jun 08 17:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Frail Thatcher wheeled out for a number 10 photo op. Don't expect any sympathy from me because now she is old and weak. She never had any. | Jun 08 17:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, "As long as there are no serious consequences for wrongdoing other than a slap on the wrist and maybe a court order stipulating that you have to do the "right thing" from now on, there's simply no compelling reason to "do the right thing" in the first place. Sham fines and penalties are the reason companies like Microsoft and Walmart break the law and violate contracts they enter into all the time, doing the "wrong thing" now and paying a | Jun 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | minimal fine later, maybe, is simply written off as a cost of doing business." | Jun 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | from a blog post I'm writing about Samsung | Jun 08 17:13 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Is this the next evolutionary step for humans? http://bit.ly/cbEM8Y | Jun 08 17:13 | |
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| amarsh04 | DaemonFC, Software Freedom Law Center's settlement with Samsung should have included appointment of a GPL compliance officer - have you emailed them? | Jun 08 17:32 |
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| DaemonFC | I've sent a written request to the physical address their support people gave me | Jun 08 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | the voicemail denying the request and the communication with their "executive support department" was a reply to that | Jun 08 17:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] This list is hilarious, and we've only just started http://is.gd/cHq6m "My plastic surgeon said it, I believe it, that's an end to it" | Jun 08 17:39 | |
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| amarsh04 | ok, sounds fairly complete then | Jun 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | no, I didn't send the email to the email address given, I sent a written request to the mailing address their support center supervisor gave me | Jun 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | you'd think that their corporate office would know what the GPL is seeing as how they got sued over it | Jun 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | and why are they denying that they have the source code? | Jun 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | who compiled it? | Jun 08 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | how did it magically appear on my disc player? | Jun 08 17:43 |
| amarsh04 | I just thought that since Samsung had settled with Software Freedom Law Center, help@softwarefreedom.org might have a contact for Samsung's GPL compliance officer and would probably be interested in what difficulties you've experienced | Jun 08 17:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mind_booster: Liked "Mozilla evangelist: #Apple #HTML5 demos harm the open Web #dirtytricks" http://ff.im/lGmiC | Jun 08 17:47 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla evangelist: #Apple #HTML5 demos harm the... - All Things Open Source - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 9.27 KB | Jun 08 17:47 |
| amarsh04 | the now defunct manufacturer of my adsl router probably took a bunch of gpl code from montavista or someone and ignored the gpl | Jun 08 17:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wheee off out in London for a beer or five.Wearing my #oggcamp t-shirt for the first time (found it in the overnight bag still in packaging) | Jun 08 17:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @carlopiana: Malta #rocks: http://ur1.ca/06722 law to prefer #freesoftware in procurement. Via @maslett | Jun 08 17:50 | |
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| schestowitz | [17:13] <DaemonFC> from a blog post I'm writing about Samsung | Jun 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | seems right | Jun 08 17:50 |
| schestowitz | crime->fines->profit! | Jun 08 17:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] If you can't understand why Thatcher is trending after half an hour then lucky you as you did not live through it. | Jun 08 17:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/stevejberry/statuses/15700614056 "shoot. msbbc should just make stuff up if they're going to relay fake science." | Jun 08 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | the thing is, the BBC has done this a lot recently. Maybe for hits | Jun 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I think it was Daily Telegraph that did Mr. "I live and eat sunshine" man | Jun 08 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What exactly would be so hard about putting up a page with links to download the source code pertinent to each firmware release? | Jun 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | it would solve every GPL compliance issue at once | Jun 08 17:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] On a nicer subject Neil Lennon has officially taken over as Celtic manager, he was always under Martin O'Neill's wing I hope he does as well | Jun 08 18:07 | |
| trmanco | hi schestowitz | Jun 08 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft IntelliFog | Jun 08 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 08 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | (Azure) | Jun 08 18:11 |
| trmanco | :/ | Jun 08 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's jsut like regular Fog, but requires a desktop PC with Windows | Jun 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | and a copy of IntelliFog Explorer | Jun 08 18:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Left turn... [pic] http://ff.im/lGJsQ | Jun 08 18:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/08/159217/RIAA-Says-LimeWire-Owes-15-Trillion | Jun 08 18:17 |
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| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/08/1525237/Anti-Speed-Camera-Activist-Buys-Police-Departments-Web-Domain | Jun 08 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | bahahahaha | Jun 08 18:19 |
| trmanco | ping schestowitz | Jun 08 18:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software #Patents Still Fought Against by #RedHat , Brad Feld http://ur1.ca/068gl #swpats #vc #india | Jun 08 18:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Shameful. I have worked here over six months and this is my first team beer up | Jun 08 18:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Ex EPO "economist" want comments on his paper on "Patent quality"? But what does pat quality means? http://ur1.ca/065f8 #swpats | Jun 08 18:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] http://bit.ly/9SPGEu Chris Blizzard of #Mozilla is dead-on in exposing Apple's fraudulent claims of "standards support". #html5 | Jun 08 18:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Doctor Who spin-off Torchwood will return but all international, I had just got used to it being Welsh. http://is.gd/cHukj | Jun 08 18:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @BorowitzReport sales strategy for new X is convincing you that the X they sold you last year blows. // same old consumer strategy | Jun 08 18:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Peppermint Team – Q&A with OpenBytes http://bit.ly/9c0Mxl #linux #foss #cloud #distro #ubuntu #peppermintos | Jun 08 18:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk3wYrkk7U&feature=related | Jun 08 19:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] First time I ever encountered #php was buying DVDs from dc-dvd back in the day. #phpbirthday | Jun 08 19:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] If pubs are not legal drug dealers then please explain to me why they are not. | Jun 08 19:10 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah, I heard about the demo in the gym | Jun 08 19:17 |
| *schestowitz watches it | Jun 08 19:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I have been playing too much half life. Wembley Park reminds me of a level I played last night! | Jun 08 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did he make an excuse? | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Is it the wifi saturation really? | Jun 08 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | maybe | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Or is CNET embellishing? | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | I mean... | Jun 08 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | how would you know? :) | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Wouldn't Apple staff predict it? | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | They would be able to know in advance | Jun 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | And later he shows another demo altogether | Jun 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I reckon maybe they put on a little fakorama | Jun 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Like a Uri Geller BS | Jun 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "I'm not feeling good energies today" | Jun 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Some people are still not turning the wifi" = I'm getting negative vibration :-) | Jun 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Here's the thing | Jun 08 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | How come people in the room could all get wifi? | Jun 08 19:23 |
| schestowitz | Except the cult leader? | Jun 08 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he didn't even show the same demo that failed | Jun 08 19:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Yahoo Search Personnel Fired, Microsoft’s Bong [sic] Sued for #Patent Violations http://ur1.ca/068vd #swpats | Jun 08 19:27 | |
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| schestowitz | The complete video is probably needed to understand the sequence of events | Jun 08 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://bob.bofh.org/~robm/misc/MachIV.html | Jun 08 19:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #UK denies visa to Chris Brown - refuses to accept participants & exporters of ultra-violent culture. (Previously denied to Snoop Dogg) #fem | Jun 08 19:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Today is the 100% perfect #Toronto summer day. | Jun 08 19:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Harriet Harman supports Diane Abbott, why? Read Stance on private education. http://is.gd/cHxEv #untrustworthy | Jun 08 19:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100 | Jun 08 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Your Machiavelli score is: 93 | Jun 08 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | "high Mach", you endorse Machiavelli's opinions. | Jun 08 19:39 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Setting up my new HTC Desire...... | Jun 08 19:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Rising wages for Chinese #iPhone assembly-line laborers is the right medicine for workers worldwide' YEP! http://bit.ly/9opWag #foxconn | Jun 08 19:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] (1/2) Just did the Oracle Tech Cast Live show about the MySQL community. Was fun. Told them I believe Oracle needs to definite it's... | Jun 08 19:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] It is almost official; funding for art in the UK will be partly withdrawn by the government and transferred to private industry. #peasants | Jun 08 19:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] (2/2) commitment to open processes (governance/bugs/patch review etc), but the community needs to also give Oracle a chance. | Jun 08 19:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] If I used four square then I would probably tweet about being in the Moon Under Water or something... | Jun 08 19:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Severed Fifth TV Videocast rescheduled to tomorrow (9th June) at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern - see http://bit.ly/blX9av for more #severedfifth | Jun 08 19:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] European Lesson About #Novell ’s Software Patents, Germany Seemingly Continues to Allow Software Patents http://ur1.ca/06939 #swpats | Jun 08 20:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think the one thing missing from Seesmic Twitter app is showing (on its main screen) your followers etc... #seesmic #twitter | Jun 08 20:11 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @zoobab Ex EPO "economist" want comments on his paper on "Patent quality"? But what does pat quality means? http://ur1.ca/065f8 #swpats | Jun 08 20:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Business has done nothing to progress art that does not involve a profit, selfishness or a salved conscience. | Jun 08 20:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ubuntu Weekly News - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue196 #ubuntu | Jun 08 20:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | The latest Firefox nightlies are awesome | Jun 08 20:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq - The Perfect 10: Linux Desktop Apps - http://bit.ly/96aCW1 #shotofjaq #gnome #kde #ubuntu | Jun 08 20:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Beats #Microsoft ’s Infamous ‘Blue Screen of Death’ Live Demo http://ur1.ca/0696v #hypepad #hypephone | Jun 08 20:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I thought the Microsoft voice recognition demo #fail was the funniest blunder. | Jun 08 20:32 | |
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| dyfet | is this room still used instead of #techrights? | Jun 08 20:37 |
| MinceR | they're both used, though #techrights still gets little traffic | Jun 08 20:40 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20006873-1.html | Jun 08 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | dyfet: both are used | Jun 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Topics were never really divided | Jun 08 20:42 |
| dyfet | ah, okay...seems there is bad news from ulteo | Jun 08 20:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right...flicked through the HTC paperwork....now just waiting for the phone to finish charging..... | Jun 08 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | it's still alive? | Jun 08 20:43 |
| schestowitz | It's hardly announcing anything | Jun 08 20:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin oh yeah, I forgot that | Jun 08 20:44 | |
| dyfet | had posted it in the other room... | Jun 08 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I'm responding there | Jun 08 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20006895-93.html | Jun 08 20:48 |
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| Atlas2070 | http://xkcd.com/750/ | Jun 08 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | Atlas2070: disappointing | Jun 08 20:50 |
| schestowitz | It would be funnier if it was the world's best-selling tail written by man | Jun 08 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [Bible] | Jun 08 20:51 |
| schestowitz | *tale | Jun 08 20:51 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 08 20:52 |
| schestowitz | She's a goddess | Jun 08 20:53 |
| MinceR | that's what he said. | Jun 08 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Apple and Amazon do the digital book burning | Jun 08 20:54 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: xkcd is weeeeeelllll overrated | Jun 08 20:54 |
| schestowitz | There's this whole cult developing around stick figures | Jun 08 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itpro.co.uk/624010/linux-use-promoted-by-linaro-group | Jun 08 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | LinARMO would make more sense as a name | Jun 08 20:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: xkcd is great | Jun 08 20:56 |
| MinceR | but "that's what she said" doesn't originate from xkcd, if that's what you mean | Jun 08 20:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-gaming-malfunction-txt,0,3456364.story | Jun 08 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: oh, ic | Jun 08 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Like "wow! It's so small" | Jun 08 21:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 21:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh golly. Chinese restaurant in soho with integral karaoke. This could end badly. Elvis anyone? | Jun 08 21:07 | |
| Atlas2070 | I already know God doesn't exist | Jun 08 21:08 |
| Atlas2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHOVZqclVok | Jun 08 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | Mr. Bean's next car: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/three-wheeled-ev-looks-like-a-modern-messerschmitt/ | Jun 08 21:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @aTerribleMuriel @SarahPalinUSA can be on Jersey Shore. Fake boobs,tan and hair //already had face done-for that Cabbage Patch doll look | Jun 08 21:12 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Please use public shaming of #GPL violators only as a *last* resort. Contact me privately if you need help w/ compliance. !fsf !gnu !busybox" http://identi.ca/notice/35383122 | Jun 08 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | I suppose he means the Samsung thing? | Jun 08 21:18 |
| MinceR | Atlas2070: which god? :> | Jun 08 21:18 |
| schestowitz | 'The' God | Jun 08 21:18 |
| schestowitz | The "God of the bibbly" | Jun 08 21:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@RiahLahren How do you get to own the internet //nobody owns all, but pieces of it & pay-to-use, like undersea cables,buried fiber,switches | Jun 08 21:19 | |
| MinceR | oh, so not me | Jun 08 21:19 |
| schestowitz | No!! | Jun 08 21:19 |
| Atlas2070 | lol | Jun 08 21:19 |
| schestowitz | God never reveals himself | Jun 08 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Unelss when he does | Jun 08 21:19 |
| schestowitz | It's one of the contradictions in the bible | Jun 08 21:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 08 21:19 |
| *schestowitz barks from a bush | Jun 08 21:19 | |
| Atlas2070 | if he does show himself it proves he doesnt exist | Jun 08 21:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@H_FJ Fun bug in #OSX 10.6.3 Calculator.app // as old as #floatingpoint arithmetic. You know why it happens? | Jun 08 21:20 | |
| schestowitz | Or a faker | Jun 08 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Jesus pretended to be a son of God? | Jun 08 21:20 |
| Atlas2070 | well theres always project bluebeam | Jun 08 21:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure he claimed this | Jun 08 21:20 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe the priesthood took the whole "God revealing himself" a tad too literally when they try to emulate him | Jun 08 21:20 |
| schestowitz | But even today, there are many delusional people out there who think God sent them | Jun 08 21:20 |
| MinceR | YHWH disappeared in a puff of logic when someone proved he didn't exist using the Babelfish. | Jun 08 21:21 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, yeah douglas adams | Jun 08 21:22 |
| ThistleWeb | "so that about wraps it up for God" | Jun 08 21:22 |
| schestowitz | http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/first-steps-to-digital-detox/?ref=technology#tim | Jun 08 21:22 |
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| MinceR | "who is this god person anyway?" | Jun 08 21:22 |
| MinceR | "some more mistakes of god" | Jun 08 21:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @daemonfc the SFLC is unhappy about calling out Samsung | Jun 08 21:24 | |
| MinceR | well, we're unhappy about samsung supporting the m$ patent extortion racket | Jun 08 21:27 |
| ThistleWeb | I came close to buying a samsung product today, but didnt | Jun 08 21:30 |
| *ThistleWeb joined the smartphone era today \o/ | Jun 08 21:30 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 08 21:30 |
| ThistleWeb | dunno if the OS is open or not, I suspect not | Jun 08 21:30 |
| Atlas2070 | android? | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | anyone heard of Brews? | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | no, it's an THC Smart | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | HTC* | Jun 08 21:31 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | with the sense UI, but it's brews, not android | Jun 08 21:31 |
| MinceR | freudian slip | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | entry level smartphone | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Jun 08 21:31 |
| Atlas2070 | sounds lame | Jun 08 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | it's real nice, but it's limited | Jun 08 21:31 |
| Atlas2070 | limted isn't real nice | Jun 08 21:32 |
| Atlas2070 | lol | Jun 08 21:32 |
| ThistleWeb | I dont need a high end phone, nor can I afford one | Jun 08 21:32 |
| ThistleWeb | but the snobbery is appreciated | Jun 08 21:33 |
| ThistleWeb | the UI is very like the HTC android phones, but no ability to install new stuff | Jun 08 21:34 |
| Atlas2070 | yeah I see it | Jun 08 21:34 |
| MinceR | which is exactly which keeps it from being a smartphone :> | Jun 08 21:34 |
| Atlas2070 | its qualcomm | Jun 08 21:34 |
| Atlas2070 | most providers can give you a free android with a contract | Jun 08 21:35 |
| Atlas2070 | im getting one soon | Jun 08 21:35 |
| Atlas2070 | moto blur probably | Jun 08 21:35 |
| ThistleWeb | I coulda done that but I dont want locked into a contract | Jun 08 21:35 |
| Atlas2070 | ahh okay | Jun 08 21:35 |
| Atlas2070 | yeah then you'll get stuck with paying huge dollars for anything good | Jun 08 21:36 |
| ThistleWeb | I hardly use the phone, I cant imagine doing anything like irc, chat etc on it | Jun 08 21:36 |
| ThistleWeb | all of the stuff I'd use comes installed on every phone | Jun 08 21:36 |
| Atlas2070 | you hardly use it "now" | Jun 08 21:36 |
| MinceR | i use mine all the time | Jun 08 21:36 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe | Jun 08 21:36 |
| Atlas2070 | i want the android for its apps, not for the phone part | Jun 08 21:36 |
| Atlas2070 | shazam is a killer app | Jun 08 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | the other issue I found with some devices was the global font size | Jun 08 21:37 |
| Atlas2070 | wicked stuff is being done with the androids camera | Jun 08 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | android tends to be kinda small, which means that I'd need to carry my reading glassed just to use it | Jun 08 21:37 |
| Atlas2070 | ahh | Jun 08 21:38 |
| Atlas2070 | bell was trying to get me to take an iphone | Jun 08 21:38 |
| Atlas2070 | lol | Jun 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | and google are amazingly silent to all the calls for a global font increse option | Jun 08 21:38 |
| Atlas2070 | no thanks | Jun 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | so I had to find one with the right screen size / resolution to be comfy on my eyes | Jun 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | the smart is great for that | Jun 08 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I was told the iphone would be better for stuff like font size, but I wouldnt touch apple | Jun 08 21:39 |
| ThistleWeb | same goes for windows | Jun 08 21:39 |
| Atlas2070 | to me all proprietary software equally sucks | Jun 08 21:40 |
| ThistleWeb | I looked at symbian on a nokia, but it felt unfinished | Jun 08 21:40 |
| Atlas2070 | but i do hate apple phones a lot | Jun 08 21:40 |
| Atlas2070 | just because they are embraced by computer illiterates | Jun 08 21:40 |
| ThistleWeb | so I was left with OS's I've never heard of, like brews ont he smart, and whatever the samsungs use, something whizz | Jun 08 21:40 |
| Atlas2070 | symbian is at least open | Jun 08 21:41 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Jun 08 21:41 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd imagine quallcomm would be closed | Jun 08 21:41 |
| ThistleWeb | unfortunately | Jun 08 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung loves software that other people wrote, to which it has to contribute nothing back to | Jun 08 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | apparently | Jun 08 21:41 |
| Atlas2070 | yup | Jun 08 21:42 |
| ThistleWeb | anyhoo, everyone's needs are different, as are their budgets.....and I'm well chuffed with my new phone | Jun 08 21:42 |
| Atlas2070 | you gotta keep one thing in mind though | Jun 08 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | I feel weird, I supect it has something to do with off my Lithium and downed a pot of coffee | Jun 08 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | but I feel like I could fold tiem and space right now | Jun 08 21:43 |
| Atlas2070 | why not a contract? sure theres lockin but most only do 2 or 3 years. i've had a cell phone for 6 | Jun 08 21:43 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd imagine when in a couple of years when the money is better, I'll be after a high end android phone | Jun 08 21:43 |
| ThistleWeb | I hardly use my phone at all | Jun 08 21:44 |
| Atlas2070 | do you see yourself not having a cell line at all in the next 2-3 years? | Jun 08 21:44 |
| ThistleWeb | so paying out like 30 every month where I may not call anyone for 3 or 4 months is not a good deal | Jun 08 21:44 |
| Atlas2070 | pay as you go? | Jun 08 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | phones are so bill collectors and annoying relatives can contact you | Jun 08 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | and we pay for these phones | Jun 08 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason | Jun 08 21:44 |
| ThistleWeb | it's pay as you go | Jun 08 21:45 |
| Atlas2070 | ohhhhhh makes sense now | Jun 08 21:45 |
| Atlas2070 | yeah you got a fantastic phone for that purpose | Jun 08 21:45 |
| Atlas2070 | surprised you didnt get a pocket calculator with a radio attached with duck tape | Jun 08 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I've started answering my phone "And what do YOU want?" | Jun 08 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 21:45 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, if it was a contract I'd be willing to go up the money scale to android, considering the hnadset would be free | Jun 08 21:45 |
| ThistleWeb | it's an excellent phone for the price | Jun 08 21:46 |
| Atlas2070 | most pay as you go phones are garbage | Jun 08 21:46 |
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| ThistleWeb | looks like htc android, mostly, with the sense UI......it's just as slick | Jun 08 21:46 |
| ThistleWeb | just no ability to add or remove any apps | Jun 08 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | all phones are garbage | Jun 08 21:46 |
| Atlas2070 | [16:40] <DaemonFC> phones are so bill collectors and annoying relatives can contact you | Jun 08 21:46 |
| Atlas2070 | +1 | Jun 08 21:46 |
| Atlas2070 | you can tell bill collectors that your line is a cell line and to contact you via mail only | Jun 08 21:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I am now in a pickle though | Jun 08 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | the ideal phone is one that only accepts calls from Publisher's Clearinghouse telling you that you won $11 million | Jun 08 21:47 |
| Atlas2070 | in canada its law | Jun 08 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | and never rings otherwise | Jun 08 21:47 |
| ThistleWeb | I have freindstream with sense, but it only allows facebook and twitter | Jun 08 21:47 |
| Atlas2070 | no identi.ca? | Jun 08 21:48 |
| Atlas2070 | :( | Jun 08 21:48 |
| Atlas2070 | booooo | Jun 08 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | nope :( | Jun 08 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Atlas2070, That's a little more polite than what I usually tell them | Jun 08 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I know, it's entry level | Jun 08 21:48 |
| Atlas2070 | so only freedom hating services | Jun 08 21:48 |
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| ThistleWeb | fraid so | Jun 08 21:48 |
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| Atlas2070 | DaemonFC - what do you tell them? | Jun 08 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | I probably break the law when I tell them what I tell them on radio frequencies | Jun 08 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I do have a twitter account but I never use it, I post to identica which cross posts | Jun 08 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | we'll leave it at that | Jun 08 21:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I've never had facebook | Jun 08 21:48 |
| Atlas2070 | no wonder you have medication | Jun 08 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | something about hunting them down and ripping their spine out if they call me again | Jun 08 21:49 |
| ThistleWeb | part of me is tempted to go set up an account on each just for using on the phone, but they're both freedom hating services | Jun 08 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think | Jun 08 21:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My first tweet with the HTC desire.... | Jun 08 21:50 | |
| Atlas2070 | lol | Jun 08 21:50 |
| ThistleWeb | ^^ another new htc owner, although his is android | Jun 08 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | Atlas2070, I'm lampooning The Ninth Gate to entertain myself | Jun 08 21:51 |
| Atlas2070 | lol the ninth gate | Jun 08 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Johnny Depp walked in and found a dead guy hanging upside down in his office | Jun 08 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Me: "Well, the decor is a little modern for my taste, but I guess I'll take it..." | Jun 08 21:52 |
| Atlas2070 | that movie is full of the occult | Jun 08 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's full of something | Jun 08 21:52 |
| Atlas2070 | im gonna go eat, ill be back later | Jun 08 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/96181994-6efe-11df-a2f7-00144feabdc0.html | Jun 08 21:58 |
| Techrights | Title: FT.com / Technology - IBM joins chipmakers to boost Linux platform .::. Size~: 59.06 KB | Jun 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: have you contacted SFLC folks? | Jun 08 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/create-a-smart-pdf-document-with-scribus/ | Jun 08 21:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Create a smart PDF document with Scribus | Linux User .::. Size~: 32.31 KB | Jun 08 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | why bother? apparently they want their work stolen, I'm the bad guy when I complain that someone didn't live up to a contract they had with me, and my blu ray player works | Jun 08 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to go back t obeing happy like everyone else | Jun 08 21:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I have just imported my entire LiveJournal to my DreamWidth. Why? Because DW has journal search! http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org Paid only | Jun 08 22:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | For as much as GPL software is stolen and nobody complains, you'd think they would just relicense it all as BSD | Jun 08 22:01 |
| schestowitz | http://webhostedservices.com/blog/?p=59 | Jun 08 22:04 |
| schestowitz | "The beauty of the Internet is that we all can research this. You-tube is a wonderful place to get Alternative News. I will not list any, but please do know this. CNN, FOX and all mainstream media is owned by the Bankers. This is a fact and there are plenty of documentaries, on the Internet, to prove it. It’s known as an everyday things called Corporations. What this means is that the news you get is filtered and biased. " | Jun 08 22:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Matts Blog of Truth » Blog Archive » Conspiracy, or not? .::. Size~: 6.74 KB | Jun 08 22:04 |
| schestowitz | That's what scares me about YouTube | Jun 08 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Too much unreliable junk and "truthers" BS there | Jun 08 22:05 |
| cubezzz | the news is poor though | Jun 08 22:05 |
| schestowitz | whose news? | Jun 08 22:05 |
| cubezzz | TV News | Jun 08 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | what scares me is how religious all these "science" channels are getting | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | There is no 'the' news | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | News is a phenomenon in a wau | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | *way | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | It's not a product from a set of companies | Jun 08 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | hunting ghosts followed by Jesus documentaries | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | [22:06] <DaemonFC> what scares me is how religious all these "science" channels are getting | Jun 08 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | all on the Discovery Channel | Jun 08 22:06 |
| cubezzz | I was watching the weather report and an alarmforce icon stayed on the screen the whole time | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | It gets them high ratings | Jun 08 22:06 |
| schestowitz | People like to watch unusual and myterious... like UFOs and stuff | Jun 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | *mys | Jun 08 22:07 |
| cubezzz | UFOs are interesting | Jun 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | If they exist | Jun 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | We have no evidence | Jun 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | UFOs, Jesus, Ghosts, and then at 1 AM, a show about black holes, stars, and planets | Jun 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | We have some stuff like seemingly organic sample from nearby objects | Jun 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | they save all the boring factual stuff for when everyone is asleep | Jun 08 22:07 |
| cubezzz | many photographs schestowitz | Jun 08 22:08 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jun 08 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Buzzword overload | Jun 08 22:08 |
| *schestowitz core dumps | Jun 08 22:08 | |
| cubezzz | it's a vast universe out there, no reason there can't be all sorts of stuff we don't know about | Jun 08 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I thought about starting XenuTV | Jun 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: but we need to show it | Jun 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Not to show fakes | Jun 08 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | syndicating all the stupid bullshit when Discovery, NatGEO, and the SCience Channel are done with it | Jun 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Or to claim 'the' book came from the creator of 100 billiob stars | Jun 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Of which we see just one properly (Sun) | Jun 08 22:09 |
| schestowitz | If someone was smart and sophistictaed enough to travel between galaxies they wouldn't do stuff like flashing us from small cruise ships and shove things up people's anus before 5am | Jun 08 22:10 |
| cubezzz | uh, yeah I agree | Jun 08 22:11 |
| schestowitz | That's the type UFO stories we hear about | Jun 08 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Not some ship as big as earth | Jun 08 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Or aliens 10^3 our size | Jun 08 22:11 |
| cubezzz | ok, but some stories aren't quite that silly | Jun 08 22:11 |
| *DaemonFC smacks schestowitz with a wet shroud of turin | Jun 08 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | wake up dammit! | Jun 08 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's all real!! | Jun 08 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Or something so bright or hot that it blinds or melts people | Jun 08 22:11 |
| schestowitz | It's just too surreal what I read | Jun 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | And it's all thoroughly debunked | Jun 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | What you'd called "pwn3d" | Jun 08 22:12 |
| cubezzz | atomic bomb? :) | Jun 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | So many years, still no evidence. Not even close | Jun 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | All the earthquakes and floods are explained in geological terms | Jun 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Laws of natures never broken | Jun 08 22:13 |
| cubezzz | well I used to think like that, then I saw the orange blobs, but whatever ;) | Jun 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the "appeal to quantum mechanics" | Jun 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | For those who claim the extraordinary | Jun 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: but oiaohn told you what it might be | Jun 08 22:13 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the astronauts saw weird stuff, and they went on record with it | Jun 08 22:13 |
| cubezzz | why would they make up stuff eh? | Jun 08 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Those rare lightenings | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | He showed you a Wikipedia page about this phenomenon | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people don't know about sleep paralysis, either | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I can reproduce it | Jun 08 22:14 |
| cubezzz | you at least believe we went to the moon right? :) | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people think it's magical (since the old ages, milddle ages too) and make up explanations | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: of course | Jun 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | i looked it all up | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | To see the video evidence too | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | The "truthers" distrot facts | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It's a habit of theirs | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | I can show you something that ain't | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | And then rely on that flasehood | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | For example | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | 9/11 "truthers" would tell you about freefall sleed | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Which is nonsense | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | The lazy ones won't verify | Jun 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It took 16 seconds | Jun 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | the truthers are really put ther eby the establishment so you'll believe whatever the establishment tells you | Jun 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Not 9-10 seconds | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of people don't check | Jun 08 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's a conspiracy posing as a conspiracy | Jun 08 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | So then they give up, when presented by facts | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | And they move to building 7 | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | WT7 | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | They show you the front/side of the building | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Never the side facing the centre | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | It was up in flames for many hours | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Hardly keeping stable at all | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Then they lie about its fall sleed | Jun 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | And any inspection of the video reveals their lies | Jun 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Then they have out of context footage | Jun 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | And slips of the mouth | Jun 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I've basically seen enough of these distortions and you shouldn't take those people seriously. They got fooled | Jun 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Some journal had snuck into it from the back door some recent (~2007 IIRC) paper that presents moe BS | Jun 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Sebveral people quite that journal as a result, obviously in protest | Jun 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | The moon landing being 'fake' is another one of those things that ignore facts | Jun 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | The Russians (Soviets) had already crashed several (at least one) rocket on the moon | Jun 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | They also achieved orbit elevation | Jun 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | So close to escapign gravity | Jun 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | So making it to the moon wasn't that much of a leap ahead | Jun 08 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | not close enough :) | Jun 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | And you can see videos of departure from the moon too | Jun 08 22:19 |
| schestowitz | What do the conspiracists have? | Jun 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | They show some very old video, like 30 years after the incident | Jun 08 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Long video, they pick up some word in it | Jun 08 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, they grab at some minute detail that doesn't mean anything and turn it into some huge 3 hour "documentary" | Jun 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | "Parakeets" IIRC | Jun 08 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | happens all the time | Jun 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | As if to say they parroted lies | Jun 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Yeah... like all those who worked on the mission | Jun 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | People on ground control | Jun 08 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Or those who want us to believe that hundreds of dynamite planter walk out there today not telling us they 'planted' something in WTC... sure, sure :-) :-) | Jun 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Jun 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | The Collateral Damage guy.. | Jun 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | The leaker got caught | Jun 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks showed it to many millions | Jun 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | They managed to trace it back to the source... poor lad | Jun 08 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | yay, it's raining | Jun 08 22:25 |
| *DaemonFC has an affinity for cool, rainy days | Jun 08 22:25 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 08 22:25 |
| MinceR | don't you mean "Collateral Murder"? | Jun 08 22:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Excuse to stay home | Jun 08 22:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, I typed fast, not thinking much or paying attention to grammar | Jun 08 22:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the 'truthers' go out here in the streets handing out DVDs | Jun 08 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The one thing I miss about my XBOX 360.....is that the controls for Oblivion weren't crap | Jun 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | And then some youngsters are brought up to believe their lies | Jun 08 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | mouse and keyboard are unwieldy on RPGs | Jun 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to some.... who got Zeitgeist and asked me to watch it too | Jun 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Even the guy who made the film retracted and said the "truthers" were wrong | Jun 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | But then you have idiots like Alex Jones perpetuating the junk | Jun 08 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | religion, money, power, corruption | Jun 08 22:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Popey + lazy Susan + beer = wet jeans. Oops | Jun 08 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | in part II, we talk about a COmmunist utopia on a terraformed Mars as the only solution | Jun 08 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 08 22:28 |
| schestowitz | AMiGo is coming http://mybroadband.co.za/news/telecoms/12813-MeeGo-coming.html | Jun 08 22:29 |
| Techrights | Title: MeeGo is coming .::. Size~: 37.33 KB | Jun 08 22:29 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 08 22:29 |
| schestowitz | It's a her (Amigo) | Jun 08 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Amiga | Jun 08 22:30 |
| MinceR | amigo is a male friend | Jun 08 22:30 |
| MinceR | could be "hers" | Jun 08 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Amiga comes with all female connectors, the MeeGo comes with pins | Jun 08 22:31 |
| schestowitz | It's hackable though | Jun 08 22:31 |
| schestowitz | You can buy plguins for them | Jun 08 22:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/TransferSummit-The-practical-magic-of-open-source-1014579.html | Jun 08 22:32 |
| Techrights | Title: TransferSummit - The practical magic of open source - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.96 KB | Jun 08 22:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you know any good film on YouTUbe? | Jun 08 22:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm just kind of bored today | Jun 08 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc | Jun 08 22:33 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! .::. Size~: 99.57 KB | Jun 08 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Oh no... | Jun 08 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I ain't klinkin' dat | Jun 08 22:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 22:34 |
| MinceR | firefox plugins? >> http://lincolnjb.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/firefox_plugin.jpg | Jun 08 22:35 |
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| MinceR | http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/firefox_plugins_in_real_life.jpg | Jun 08 22:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 08 22:35 |
| schestowitz | http://lifehacker.com/5556316/set-a-rotating-picture-of-the-earth-as-your-ubuntu-wallpaper | Jun 08 22:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Set a Rotating Picture of the Earth as Your Ubuntu Wallpaper .::. Size~: 75.03 KB | Jun 08 22:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bad GIMP job | Jun 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe it's real, I'm not sure | Jun 08 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DaemonFC jono Read this blog entry this morning, and some comments, and yeah its great and rather honest :) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/many-hands-make-light-work-few-make-it.html | Jun 08 22:37 |
| Techrights | Title: Many hands make the light work; few make it shine | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 89.71 KB | Jun 08 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ^ | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Firefox plugins conflict a lot | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Used to be worse | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | When there's >2, it can't be hetero | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I'm not a fan of "omg!" | Jun 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | It's a bit lime "barbie site", I dunno | Jun 08 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | lime barbie site? | Jun 08 22:39 |
| MinceR | also, http://asset.soup.io/asset/0582/1516_db2c_500.jpeg | Jun 08 22:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah | Jun 08 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | what do you mean by that? | Jun 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | It they set up shop, there would be Ronald the Clown by the entrance | Jun 08 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | uh? | Jun 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | And dancing salesmen, like in those viral Microsoft Shop vids | Jun 08 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes its a fan boy site | Jun 08 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | if thats what you mean | Jun 08 22:40 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: the design and the name | Jun 08 22:40 |
| schestowitz | They also promote just one distro | Jun 08 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | however that partcular blog entry I linked to | Jun 08 22:40 |
| schestowitz | If there's some app like RB | Jun 08 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | is one that complains about Ubuntu and has suggestions | Jun 08 22:40 |
| schestowitz | They'd call it "app for Ubuntu" | Jun 08 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Like the whole universe is just omg omg omg mark shutlebuntu | Jun 08 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: there was a good comment the other day on there, about how he was calling stuff Ubuntu apps, the guy who started the site | Jun 08 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | and so the Ubuntu = Linux thing | Jun 08 22:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Out of top 500 Super Computers, 455 run on Linux. Windows has 1% Share(only 5 Super Computers) #linux http://bit.ly/ccLUaY | Jun 08 22:41 | |
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| sebsebseb | and he was like, its a site for people like my sister, who don't know | Jun 08 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I even had a chat to him about this kind of thing recently on IRC and such, and got similar reply | Jun 08 22:41 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I saw that | Jun 08 22:41 |
| sebsebseb | basically it seems he doesn't care about using the proper names, just wants to call it all Ubuntu apps | Jun 08 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Why he says "Linux" | Jun 08 22:41 |
| schestowitz | I don't agree | Jun 08 22:41 |
| schestowitz | And GNU is not about "politics" | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | That's how he poased it | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | *posed | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | GNU is about the origin of the project | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | The free operating system | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Before the BSD/UNIX thing settled down | Jun 08 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | yep and if there was no GNU project, there probably woudn't have been any Linux distros either | Jun 08 22:42 |
| sebsebseb | or they would be quite differnet | Jun 08 22:42 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the "Complete Guide to Redhat 8" didn't mention Stallman at all | Jun 08 22:42 |
| cubezzz | I thought that was odd | Jun 08 22:42 |
| schestowitz | I too would be upset if people called widelife "humans" | Jun 08 22:43 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, we have about 7 million species alive | Jun 08 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so many fan boys on the site though, and some comments are so ignorant | Jun 08 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Just because humans kill the rest doesn't give them monopoly right | Jun 08 22:43 |
| sebsebseb | for example there was someone who seemed to think that Ubuntu is the only distro that wants to compete agaisnt Windows and Mac OS X | Jun 08 22:43 |
| schestowitz | We came from animals | Jun 08 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Linux needed GNU | Jun 08 22:43 |
| schestowitz | GCC esp. | Jun 08 22:43 |
| cubezzz | yes very much so | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | I know the guy who was first to merge GNU and Linux | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Linux without gnu is useless | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | What would it do? | Jun 08 22:44 |
| cubezzz | oh? | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | You can't link it to Windows atop | Jun 08 22:44 |
| cubezzz | not Torvalds I assume? | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and Apple would not support that | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Unless they just /used/ Linud | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | *linux | Jun 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Apple used BSD | Jun 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Apple didn't help BSD grow | Jun 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Apple didn't give them a desktop | Jun 08 22:45 |
| cubezzz | so who was first to merge GNU and Linux? | Jun 08 22:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah they didn't help KHTML either did they? just forked it and made Webkit? | Jun 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | It just said, "oh, we like a little bit of that. gimme gimme!" | Jun 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: Dr. Owen LeBlanc | Jun 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | He was doing his Ph.D. here at the time, AFAIK | Jun 08 22:46 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: wresting control | Jun 08 22:46 |
| schestowitz | And then saying, "oh, okay, here, have some access to the code that we trademark and control" | Jun 08 22:46 |
| cubezzz | this guy? | Jun 08 22:47 |
| cubezzz | http://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/ | Jun 08 22:47 |
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| schestowitz | If they wanted to participate in FOSS, they would add developers to KDE/KHTML | Jun 08 22:47 |
| schestowitz | And then work together with them | Jun 08 22:47 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Jun 08 22:47 |
| cubezzz | what does the penguin with the trunk represent I wonder | Jun 08 22:48 |
| schestowitz | it has been the same for ages | Jun 08 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Back in 2002/3 when I worked in the same place as him | Jun 08 22:49 |
| schestowitz | No change to the Web page since then | Jun 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | apparently Owen Le Blanc created MCC Interim Linux, the first GNU/Linux distro. | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Well, some with my own Web pages, though | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | MCC is where I worked | Jun 08 22:50 |
| cubezzz | so when was the first GNU+Linux? | Jun 08 22:50 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, he's in MBS across the road now | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Manchester Business School | Jun 08 22:50 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: 92 | Jun 08 22:51 |
| cubezzz | ah ok | Jun 08 22:51 |
| schestowitz | He got it from FTP | Jun 08 22:51 |
| MinceR | strange... MCC has an FTP server, but no web page | Jun 08 22:51 |
| schestowitz | he managed debian servers now | Jun 08 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Nothing too glamourous | Jun 08 22:51 |
| cubezzz | ok, I'm not understanding that Microsoft ad | Jun 08 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Linus almost called Linux something else | Jun 08 22:51 |
| cubezzz | Freax or something like that | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | There's that old story about how the FTP server with the code got set up | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Linus started with a proprietary Linux | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | From what's I've read (same with mysql) | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <cubezzz> Freax or something like that | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Linus doesn't talk about "Free" | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | He talks about "open" | Jun 08 22:53 |
| cubezzz | interesting that that Microsoft Linux ad was in germany | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he chose Freax as a tribute to RMS | Jun 08 22:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah, but interestingly I agree with Torvalds about some things | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | That's how he views the FSF | Jun 08 22:53 |
| MinceR | except he chose a license created by the FSF | Jun 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Linus is not so different from RMS | Jun 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | so he couldn't have hated them too much | Jun 08 22:54 |
| cubezzz | can anyone translate? | Jun 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Both are geeks and worked as TA or equiv | Jun 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Stallman went ahead and created FSF/GNU | Jun 08 22:54 |
| MinceR | Total Annihilation? | Jun 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Linus went to Silicon Valley or wherever Transmeta is | Jun 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I fixed th Wikipedia article ages ago | Jun 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | About MCC | Jun 08 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It's one of the very few edits I ever made to it | Jun 08 22:55 |
| cubezzz | "ein offenes betriebssyst em hat nicht nur vorteile" | Jun 08 22:55 |
| cubezzz | ok, so what did we have before Linux that was FOSS? | Jun 08 22:56 |
| cubezzz | say in the 80's | Jun 08 22:56 |
| MinceR | GNU itself | Jun 08 22:56 |
| MinceR | are you looking for de jure FOSS or de facto FOSS? | Jun 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | When did BSD become a parity thing, so to speak? | Jun 08 22:57 |
| cubezzz | I guess they are dissing all the different distros | Jun 08 22:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't know the AT&T history too well | Jun 08 22:57 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, anything FOSS in the 80s | Jun 08 22:57 |
| schestowitz | That's Groklaw's area | Jun 08 22:57 |
| cubezzz | because I really can't recall an OS in the 80's that was FOSS | Jun 08 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: F/OS? | Jun 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | the f***** OS | Jun 08 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Slogan: "Got no money? Install f***** OS on it!" | Jun 08 22:59 |
| cubezzz | "An open operating system has not only advantages" | Jun 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | The flower OS is pretty good | Jun 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Jun 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | I said "flower" | Jun 08 22:59 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: open source didn't exist until about 12 years ago | Jun 08 22:59 |
| MinceR | if i'm reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD correctly, the Net/1 release of BSD, released in june 1989, was free | Jun 08 23:00 |
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| MinceR | afaict there were no free OSes before that | Jun 08 23:00 |
| MinceR | (and obviously that wasn't for x86) | Jun 08 23:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: free as in "free love" | Jun 08 23:00 |
| cubezzz | 1998? that doesn't sound right | Jun 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Linus used BSD code, MinceR | Jun 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | He admitted it | Jun 08 23:01 |
| MinceR | actually i misread it | Jun 08 23:01 |
| cubezzz | we had Yggdrasil in 1992 | Jun 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | As inspiration at the least | Jun 08 23:01 |
| MinceR | Net/1 still had nonfree portions | Jun 08 23:01 |
| schestowitz | RichardH had an article about it recently | Jun 08 23:01 |
| MinceR | so afaict there were no free OS-es in the 1980-s | Jun 08 23:01 |
| cubezzz | everybody used BSD code :) | Jun 08 23:01 |
| cubezzz | Minix? | Jun 08 23:02 |
| cubezzz | and that Lion's book also | Jun 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Not free | Jun 08 23:02 |
| cubezzz | I think Yggdrasil was free though | Jun 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Not in the same sense | Jun 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Did it have a licence back then (Minix)? | Jun 08 23:02 |
| MinceR | Minix was nonfree until 2000, afaict | Jun 08 23:02 |
| cubezzz | don't know | Jun 08 23:03 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix | Jun 08 23:03 |
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| cubezzz | ok, then the Lions book | Jun 08 23:03 |
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| cubezzz | at least it had all the source right? | Jun 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what happened in y2k? | Jun 08 23:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: by the way about time they do this really https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000719.html | Jun 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Polarisation of the project? | Jun 08 23:03 |
| MinceR | of course if you're looking for de facto free, i think AT&T's Unix worked that way | Jun 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I suppose I could read it.. | Jun 08 23:03 |
| sebsebseb | uh no url title from bot? | Jun 08 23:03 |
| sebsebseb | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000719.html | Jun 08 23:03 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: relicensing under BSDL | Jun 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, fair business model | Jun 08 23:04 |
| MinceR | because there were free unixes around by that time | Jun 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | True to the Free software mantra AFAICS | Jun 08 23:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they should have been putting in major versions of software ages ago really | Jun 08 23:04 |
| MinceR | so nobody would pay the $69 licensing fee for Minix anyway | Jun 08 23:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: it was a joke how Windows could get later stuff easier and such | Jun 08 23:04 |
| schestowitz | Zdnet is working more with techreFUDnic now: http://www.zdnetasia.com/set-up-dropbox-on-a-gui-less-linux-server-62200499.htm | Jun 08 23:05 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: fair business model? aye? Mozilla? Canonical? what did you mean exactly | Jun 08 23:06 |
| MinceR | some info on the timing of GNU/Linux and FLOSS BSD >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD#Net.2F2_and_legal_troubles | Jun 08 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | Canonical'\s support | Jun 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | ^to sebsebseb | Jun 08 23:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: how so? Intrepid was a great release, and hasn't been supported since 30th April | Jun 08 23:07 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't say intrepid was great | Jun 08 23:07 |
| MinceR | it was one of the worst ubuntu releases i've used | Jun 08 23:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it was for me, except for when it came to the ethernet on the other computer, woudn't just work, however that needs a driver in XP anyway | Jun 08 23:08 |
| MinceR | iirc that was when they threw away stable KDE for unstable KDE | Jun 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | "Linus Torvalds has said that if 386BSD had been available at the time, he probably would not have created Linux" | Jun 08 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | I was going to run Intrepid on there for quite a while instead of jaunty though | Jun 08 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | ,but well Jaunty with Ext4 :D | Jun 08 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | nice fast boot up, disk checking, and shut down, not default though, since there kernel and such or whatever, not properly stable, never had problems though :) | Jun 08 23:08 |
| MinceR | and screwed with a lot of settings | Jun 08 23:08 |
| MinceR | without documenting them properly | Jun 08 23:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: not sure about Kubuntu | Jun 08 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | 8.10 | Jun 08 23:09 |
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| sebsebseb | ,but 8.04 had both in the repo, KDE 3 and KDE 4, with KDE 3 as the default | Jun 08 23:09 |
| MinceR | 8.04 LTS was Hardy | Jun 08 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes | Jun 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | http://insidesocal.com/click/2010/06/the-most-important-ubuntu-arti.html | Jun 08 23:09 |
| sebsebseb | Hardy Heron | Jun 08 23:09 |
| MinceR | it was a fine release | Jun 08 23:09 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: except for the amount of times I had to do killall pulseaudio | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | and not just me | Jun 08 23:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | quite a lot of people | Jun 08 23:10 |
| MinceR | kubuntu didn't use PA | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah and it still doesn't it seems | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu on the other hand does | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | and thats what most Linux news in the past few years use, and a lot of them get sound issues as well | Jun 08 23:10 |
| MinceR | though i keep hearing that PA works a lot better with good configuration | Jun 08 23:10 |
| MinceR | (where ubuntu doesn't shine) | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | newbies not news above silly typos | Jun 08 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | other distros though :D | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | plus take Mandriva and PC Linux OS, can easilly disable pulseaudio in the nice graphical control centre, without problems | Jun 08 23:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | well I guess thats PCLOS as well, is so for Mandriva | Jun 08 23:11 |
| MinceR | that's nice indeed | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | wireless is another problem area as well | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | for Ubuntu | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | ,but other distros :D | Jun 08 23:11 |
| MinceR | i didn't have problems with that | Jun 08 23:11 |
| sebsebseb | wireless issues are very common for Ubuntu | Jun 08 23:12 |
| MinceR | except having to update the kernel module for atheros to make it suck less | Jun 08 23:12 |
| MinceR | i had to install the firmware blob for intel on debian, though | Jun 08 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | and then if they try another distro, such as Mandriva or PC Linux OS, they may find the wireless just works natively, or at least Ndiswrapper without problems | Jun 08 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | then the usual ATI issues as well, and that may be better on other distros as well | Jun 08 23:12 |
| MinceR | well, now i have something interfering with ethernet for some seconds after wireless connection is established. that's weird. | Jun 08 23:12 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Ubuntu's three most common issues, can a lot of the time be solved with another distro | Jun 08 23:13 |
| MinceR | i never had to make do with ndiswrapper | Jun 08 23:13 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is a bit like WIndows, hyped up, gains users, and most of them don't know better as well. Such as when it comes to issues, or how their Gnome editing remove upstream Gnome features, that will be there again once removed. Such as the me menu linked to edited fast user account switcher uh, if thats removed, get auto shut down back, after a minute or so if untouched, and no silly do you really want to shut down or restart messages, | Jun 08 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | and system and log out back in system menu. I have also said this kind of stuff on IRC I don't know how many times. | Jun 08 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | well anyway I suppouse, better for loads of people to be using Ubuntu instead of Windows :) | Jun 08 23:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: that link I gave a little while ago on omgubuntu is a great read, check it out | Jun 08 23:16 |
| MinceR | i've taken a look at it | Jun 08 23:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OMFG, the trolls in COLA are getting weirder by the day. According to Flatfish @schestowitz controls COLA, put a spell on us. Booh, hoo hoo | Jun 08 23:19 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: about time they do this as well https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000719.html | Jun 08 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000719.html | Jun 08 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | people aren't happy, when they find out, that on Windows they can just get the latest major version of Firefox or whatever else that is popular, but on Ubuntu nope | Jun 08 23:20 |
| sebsebseb | so really that should have been done quite a while ago | Jun 08 23:20 |
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| MinceR | actually if they really want to, they can | Jun 08 23:21 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: not from the repos though | Jun 08 23:21 |
| MinceR | it's more trouble and there's not much of a point to it, but it's possible | Jun 08 23:21 |
| MinceR | yes, not from the official repos | Jun 08 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: got to use silly ppa's or install them selves from Mozilla | Jun 08 23:21 |
| MinceR | well, "from mozilla" is how they get it on other os-es too | Jun 08 23:21 |
| sebsebseb | right, but | Jun 08 23:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] William Control. Any good? | Jun 08 23:22 | |
| MinceR | they can hardly complain that gnu/linux distros like to also offer a repo :> | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | they are meant to be able to get it from the Ubuntu repos really before, but no this silly idea | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | lets do security updates only | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | or usuealy | Jun 08 23:22 |
| MinceR | or they could use a third-party repo | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | ,but now thats going to change :) | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | should be able to get major versions of stuff like Firefox and Open Office and such, from the Ubuntu repos, and well it seems that is what will be happening now | Jun 08 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | hey new Ubuntu user | Jun 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | there's a danger to that, though | Jun 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | major versions often mean configuration incompatibilities | Jun 08 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | yeah yeah I know you want to use latest Firefox, but | Jun 08 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | sorry, but | Jun 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | configuration incompatibilities mean need to reconfigure | Jun 08 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | you will have to use a ppa or install directly from Mozilla | Jun 08 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | newbies says: what is a ppa? | Jun 08 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | support person: its like a mini repo, they are normally on launchpad go Google for Firefox ppa or something | Jun 08 23:23 |
| MinceR | new major versions being in the repo means they will get automatically installed when they appear and the user asks for updates | Jun 08 23:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @lxoliva: Brazilian court refuses to uphold foreign copyrights (MS, AutoDesk) for lack of reciprocity in US law ur1.ca/069sa (via @ufa) | Jun 08 23:24 | |
| MinceR | not only on dist-upgrade | Jun 08 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | see how rubbish that is, telling someone to add a ppa or whatever to get latest Firefox, when they should be able to just install it from the repo really :) | Jun 08 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | seems the Ubuntu developers agree now, but it also seems they are mainly doing it, since how Firefox is done now, versions won't last as long untill they go end of life | Jun 08 23:24 |
| MinceR | if the package manager supported a model where getting a newer major version on demand (from what would be the unstable/testing/whatever repos), that could solve your problem | Jun 08 23:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Finishing setting up my phone with my numerous apps | Jun 08 23:25 | |
| sebsebseb | I had 9.04 on the other computer for quite a while | Jun 08 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | after 9.10 was out | Jun 08 23:25 |
| MinceR | but i don't like breaking stuff when the user only wants a security/bugfix update | Jun 08 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | and I knew the FIrefox was old, but the latest version offered little if any advantage to me really | Jun 08 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: right, but its coming from upstream | Jun 08 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Jun 08 23:25 |
| cubezzz | oh btw, basic linux isn't too bad | Jun 08 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: basic linux? | Jun 08 23:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh and then I think ill have an early night. | Jun 08 23:26 | |
| cubezzz | I'm starting to get into it | Jun 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | depends on what upstream's policy is | Jun 08 23:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah, for old computers | Jun 08 23:26 |
| MinceR | but in the worst case you'll merely want to avoid that software if it breaks too often for you :) | Jun 08 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | well Ubuntu newbies and so on | Jun 08 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | want later software | Jun 08 23:26 |
| cubezzz | http://www.volny.cz/basiclinux/ | Jun 08 23:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ach morgen weer naar de stembus @piratenpartij.nl Geen software patenten in Europa, nu niet een nooit niet !gnu | Jun 08 23:27 | |
| sebsebseb | since they are used to haveing it pretty much straight away, when it is avilalbe for Windows, when it is free as in price | Jun 08 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | I mean in general here | Jun 08 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: with 8.10 quite a lot of people wanted Open Office 3.0 | Jun 08 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | and so they had to turn to a ppa | Jun 08 23:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin gn, come by IRC sometimes | Jun 08 23:28 | |
| sebsebseb | the whole ppa thing is pretty silly really, a lot of the time | Jun 08 23:28 |
| cubezzz | once I get another keyboard, I'll be ircing on the awesome power of the 486 :) | Jun 08 23:28 |
| MinceR | bleeding edge has new features... but it is also more prone to breaking :> | Jun 08 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | since major software used by Ubuntu users, new versions should always come from the repos really, when they are stable :) | Jun 08 23:28 |
| sebsebseb | well for stuff like FIrefox and Open Office I mean | Jun 08 23:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ach morgen weer naar de stembus @piratenpartij.nl Geen software patenten in Europa, nu niet een nooit niet #gnu | Jun 08 23:29 | |
| MinceR | "if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it." | Jun 08 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | the kernel on the other hand or xorg or Gnome or KDE | Jun 08 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | no | Jun 08 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | thats good to wait untill next version for those | Jun 08 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | and for those that can't just wait try in developmetn | Jun 08 23:29 |
| sebsebseb | development | Jun 08 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | What you guys think of Gnome Shell anyway? I still haven't tried it, but seen videos and such, and uh seems like its trying to replace Compiz, which I am not so happy about. | Jun 08 23:30 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen it | Jun 08 23:30 |
| cubezzz | too new for me :) | Jun 08 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: too new? well the sable will be September | Jun 08 23:31 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | delayed from April to September | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: oh that was a joke? | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I mean your on Fedora? | Jun 08 23:31 |
| cubezzz | yep | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | so that was a joke about Gnome Shell being to new? | Jun 08 23:31 |
| cubezzz | yes | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | What you think of it? | Jun 08 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok gn | Jun 08 23:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz your irc channel freenode will not accept vpn connections easily | Jun 08 23:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz gn Roy...I'll have to drop you an email. | Jun 08 23:33 | |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well? | Jun 08 23:33 |
| cubezzz | dude, I'm on fc1 and basic linux :) | Jun 08 23:33 |
| cubezzz | I don't have a clue about gnome shell | Jun 08 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | right sure and I am Donald Duck | Jun 08 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | also basic Linux is that another joke or? | Jun 08 23:33 |
| cubezzz | no, seriously | Jun 08 23:34 |
| cubezzz | I fixed this 486 up a couple of days ago | Jun 08 23:34 |
| cubezzz | I also posted the URL for basic linux a few minutes ago | Jun 08 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | FC2 was my first distro :) | Jun 08 23:34 |
| cubezzz | and I'm using fc1 _right_ _now_ :) | Jun 08 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: and you uhmm | Jun 08 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | maintained it yourself | Jun 08 23:34 |
| cubezzz | so there | Jun 08 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | so its recently secure online? | Jun 08 23:34 |
| cubezzz | yes, exactly | Jun 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | yup | Jun 08 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | reasoanbly not recently above | Jun 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | and the basic linux machine isn't even connected to the internet | Jun 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | at first I thought "this was useless" | Jun 08 23:35 |
| cubezzz | but now I think it's great :) | Jun 08 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: ok ran the version thing on you | Jun 08 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | so what did you do to FC1? | Jun 08 23:36 |
| cubezzz | a lot | Jun 08 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | which was? | Jun 08 23:36 |
| cubezzz | redid some drivers | Jun 08 23:36 |
| cubezzz | upgraded KDE to 3.4.2 | Jun 08 23:37 |
| cubezzz | upgraded tons of user space things | Jun 08 23:37 |
| sebsebseb | re ddi some drivers? tons of user space things? | Jun 08 23:37 |
| cubezzz | yeah bttv | Jun 08 23:37 |
| sebsebseb | bttv? | Jun 08 23:37 |
| cubezzz | it's the beachtree driver for tv tuner cards | Jun 08 23:37 |
| sebsebseb | why not run with the orginal FC1 stuff, and only security updates if anything? | Jun 08 23:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @lxoliva: juiz espanhol equipara P2P a empréstimo de livros bit.ly/9THGFI como na intro de fsfla.org/blogs/lxo/pub/p2plano-b | Jun 08 23:38 | |
| cubezzz | I only upgrade things I need to upgrade | Jun 08 23:38 |
| cubezzz | like when it doesn't work right | Jun 08 23:38 |
| sebsebseb | is Fedora like Ubuntu, they still provide old versions for people to download? | Jun 08 23:38 |
| cubezzz | or the upgrade doesn't run slow | Jun 08 23:38 |
| cubezzz | ummm, yeah you can probably still find the fc1 iso's | Jun 08 23:39 |
| cubezzz | but they are starting to disappear | Jun 08 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jun 08 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | FC2 was nice, but I coudn't use it online at the time, since stupid wireless device, same thing for FC4 | Jun 08 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: heh here I am thinking FC1 is old, since it was like 2003 when it got released I think? | Jun 08 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yep | Jun 08 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | XP is even older | Jun 08 23:40 |
| cubezzz | yes, 2003 | Jun 08 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | and most of the worlds computers are still running it | Jun 08 23:40 |
| cubezzz | ok, but XP is slow | Jun 08 23:41 |
| cubezzz | you do you I would run XP on this box? no way | Jun 08 23:41 |
| cubezzz | with 320 megs of ram? | Jun 08 23:41 |
| sebsebseb | XP can run on 128MB RAM | Jun 08 23:41 |
| cubezzz | ok, have you actually tried it like that? :) | Jun 08 23:41 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | the old computer next to me | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | used to run XP | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I want to bring that one back from the dead really at some stage | Jun 08 23:42 |
| cubezzz | ok, well even with 256 megs I thought it was turtle slow | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | still got a floppy disc drive that I guess still works, and there are old floppy dics about | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | disks | Jun 08 23:42 |
| cubezzz | even fc1 is kind of bloated | Jun 08 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | two hard disks in there 40GB for both and yeah | Jun 08 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | it died with | Jun 08 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu Edgy on it | Jun 08 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | I think the graphics card buggerd up | Jun 08 23:43 |
| cubezzz | this 486 is 1993 era :) | Jun 08 23:43 |
| cubezzz | original hard drive still | Jun 08 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | XP ended up blue screen of deathing before that as well, so decided to blame XP even though I guess I knew it was realy hardware | Jun 08 23:43 |
| sebsebseb | I mean Ubuntu worked fine for quite a while on it after | Jun 08 23:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Neelie Kroes heeft mooie praatjes, maar ik vertrouw haar voor geen meter. Denk dat ze diep in haar hart een Microsoft/ACTA lobbyist is :-( | Jun 08 23:44 | |
| cubezzz | yeah the electrolytes in the capacitors will eventually dry up | Jun 08 23:44 |
| cubezzz | then you need to recap to keep going | Jun 08 23:44 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well bring computer back to life maybe or whatever, theres still a hard disk in there, with some data on it, well assuming it still works, that I want to get hold of at some stage | Jun 08 23:44 |
| cubezzz | sure | Jun 08 23:44 |
| sebsebseb | so turns out my old monitor doesn't work properly, should get thrown out really, but will sometiems work still I guess hrm. | Jun 08 23:45 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: maybe you saw me in here a while ago saying stuff about monitors | Jun 08 23:45 |
| cubezzz | monitors can be repaired | Jun 08 23:45 |
| cubezzz | it's not necessary to dump them | Jun 08 23:45 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: they can be repaired? | Jun 08 23:46 |
| cubezzz | yes | Jun 08 23:46 |
| cubezzz | you just need a good tech | Jun 08 23:46 |
| sebsebseb | I think maybe some water or something got in that monitor | Jun 08 23:46 |
| cubezzz | and parts of course | Jun 08 23:46 |
| cubezzz | did you know very old tube tvs are easy to fix? | Jun 08 23:46 |
| cubezzz | much easier than modern tvs | Jun 08 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | paying a tech to repair montior | Jun 08 23:47 |
| cubezzz | of course, now you probably don't want to do that | Jun 08 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | would cost more than buying a new though or? | Jun 08 23:47 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, sometimes you don't have that choice | Jun 08 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | what? | Jun 08 23:47 |
| cubezzz | you need 15khz or something the LCD can't do | Jun 08 23:47 |
| cubezzz | for an old computer | Jun 08 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | uh? | Jun 08 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | what? | Jun 08 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | your saying modern screens won't work on old computers? | Jun 08 23:48 |
| cubezzz | on some of them, yes | Jun 08 23:48 |
| cubezzz | like Amiga 500 for example | Jun 08 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh right | Jun 08 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | well this is just an old PC | Jun 08 23:49 |
| cubezzz | or c64 :) | Jun 08 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz It would be nice to access irc freenode with vpn but simply do not know how to. | Jun 08 23:49 | |
| cubezzz | not without a good signal processor | Jun 08 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | so I guess LCD screen would work | Jun 08 23:49 |
| cubezzz | LCD's can't do 320x200 | Jun 08 23:49 |
| cubezzz | like earlier PCs could on CRT | Jun 08 23:49 |
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| sebsebseb | cubezzz: anyway that monitor was bought in 2007 or something, so maybe a bit to new for old computer | Jun 08 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | yes they should last longer | Jun 08 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | than a few years | Jun 08 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | without messing up | Jun 08 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I knew I hadn't been looking after it properly | Jun 08 23:50 |
| cubezzz | how old is your old PC? | Jun 08 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Jun 08 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | 2000 or something like that I think | Jun 08 23:51 |
| cubezzz | not even that old :) | Jun 08 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: that oldish screen though is quite nice, so its ashame really that | Jun 08 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | I can't just use it properly at the moment | Jun 08 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: anyway yeah the amount of hardware that gets thrown out | Jun 08 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | computer hardware | Jun 08 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | since Windows got all slow and people are ignorant | Jun 08 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | or the hardware actsaully broke | Jun 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | maybe someone made an LCD that could sync down to 15khz | Jun 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I regret ever using windows | Jun 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | it was always slow | Jun 08 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | well a lot of us didn't have a choice | Jun 08 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | we had to use WIndows | Jun 08 23:55 |
| sebsebseb | you know school or work etc | Jun 08 23:55 |
| cubezzz | well we didn't :) | Jun 08 23:55 |
| cubezzz | it didn't even exist | Jun 08 23:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz ie no vpn access unless complicated crap. To us non techs. | Jun 08 23:56 | |
| cubezzz | and we had lots of choices too | Jun 08 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | yeah there used to be a lot of computer choices | Jun 08 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then bang | Jun 08 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | PC took off with Windows | Jun 08 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: the old Achorns and BBC's at school :D | Jun 08 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | for example | Jun 08 23:57 |
| cubezzz | some colleges in the 1970's had computer building as part of the course | Jun 08 23:58 |
| cubezzz | with front toggle switches for programming :) | Jun 08 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | front toggle? | Jun 08 23:58 |
| cubezzz | yeah you programming the bootstrap loader with switches | Jun 08 23:59 |
| cubezzz | programmed | Jun 08 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | the bootscrap loader? I don't know that much about hardware, but yes I do know that computers had to be programmed before | Jun 08 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | or they woudn't work at all | Jun 08 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | I mean | Jun 08 23:59 |
| sebsebseb | no OS's | Jun 08 23:59 |
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