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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “MS Has Already Approached Canonical Pressuring Them to Sign up to a Patent Deal” http://ur1.ca/06ixf #swpats #ubuntu #fsfJun 10 00:07
TechrightsTitle: Linux Magazine: “Microsoft Has Already Approached Canonical Pressuring Them to Sign up to a Patent Deal, But They Turned it Down.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.2 KBJun 10 00:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just returned from Mums place after showing her how to do family tree stuff on #ubuntu. She's excited, should keep her busy #mumbuntuJun 10 00:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ooo. Starting June 21s Google are introducing "character-by-character real-time collaboration" to docs. Hello Etherpad developers! :DJun 10 00:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @schestowitz: “MS Has Already Approached Canonical Pressuring Them to Sign up to a Patent Deal” http://ur1.ca/06ixf #swpats #ubuntu #fsfJun 10 00:10
TechrightsTitle: Linux Magazine: “Microsoft Has Already Approached Canonical Pressuring Them to Sign up to a Patent Deal, But They Turned it Down.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.2 KBJun 10 00:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Interesting article on Canonical and Microsoft pressure. Thanks!Jun 10 00:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rixth Can't believe @ gruber is siding with Apple over the AdMob barring // you still take Gruber seriously??Jun 10 00:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @pinkomomma @MWJ1231: Joe says that Palin reminds him of Lucy from Peanuts //Lucy had a brain. Palin's Facial surgery: Cabbage Patch DollJun 10 00:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still running my cloud project,Im over in #peppermintos on freenode. Come join me, we've talked about cheese/Cliff Richard and Linux so far!Jun 10 00:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Support from the #US helped to shield #Israel from a proposed United Nations-led inquiry' http://bit.ly/9KLTgOJun 10 00:17
TechrightsTitle:  $400m for Gaza as US asks Israel to reconsider ‘unsustainable’ blockade - Times Online  .::. Size~: 93.13 KBJun 10 00:17
cubezzzextortion pure and simpleJun 10 00:17
cubezzzMicrosoft are racketeers, no questionJun 10 00:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren what's with the hard-on for guns?Jun 10 00:23
schestowitzender2070: re "his brother founded UNESCO, http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/julian-huxley.htm"Jun 10 00:23
TechrightsTitle: UNESCO: Its purpose and Its Philosophy .::. Size~: 20.76 KBJun 10 00:23
schestowitzYes, they lost their way, tooJun 10 00:23
schestowitzThey promote Microsoft now, among other thingsJun 10 00:23
cubezzzonce these ARM devices are common and everybody starts selling them, Microsoft is finishedJun 10 00:28
cubezzzthere's no way they will be relevantJun 10 00:28
cubezzzsome european folks _never_ used MicrosoftJun 10 00:29
cubezzzthey used Amiga then went to LinuxJun 10 00:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@peterdaou wonderful isn't it. Aren't we lucky that #torture is no longer practiced today!Jun 10 00:31
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schestowitzcubezzz: ARM gets bigger on tabletsJun 10 00:36
schestowitzSub-notebooks are seen like an ol' man's tabletJun 10 00:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren #US population is basically enslaved now, and they're more armed than ever. Gun ownership is useless against the real threats.Jun 10 00:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: #CSIRO Slammed, #TiVo Loses, #WIPO Harms China, and Patents Do #Yoga http://ur1.ca/06j3q #swpatsJun 10 00:44
TechrightsTitle: Patents Roundup: CSIRO Slammed, TiVo Loses, WIPO Harms China, and Patents Do Yoga | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.61 KBJun 10 00:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren and you're mistaken. Gun control reduces homicide rate. Look at e.g. São Paulo, Brazil, which is safer than major US citiesJun 10 00:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren So you feel gun ownership has pros. Are there any cons?Jun 10 00:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 maybe debt will be reduced by selling nukes to China *shudders*Jun 10 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 @riahlahren good for recruiting to battleJun 10 00:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz : @riahlahren is one of my favourite twitter people :)Jun 10 00:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@mirandacan i guess the healthcare chewing-gum still has some useful propagandising flavour. #hcr #obamaJun 10 00:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 @riahlahren That's how they can get the automatics and a chance to shoot many 'live targets' (people) without getting jail timeJun 10 01:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] @schestowitz yeah Army Reserve types. Bunch of nutters. But in the end, loyal to authority. I no longer believe in non-govt militia conceptJun 10 01:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren also one has to make a distinction between gun types. handguns ideal for what they're used for: urban homicide. not revolutionJun 10 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren the ideal of #democracy is supposed to be a bloodless alternative to 'might is right' embodied in armed #anarchy. Or something.Jun 10 01:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 yeah, I've just added @RiahLahrenJun 10 01:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Reminder: Severed Fifth live in the studio in an hour! Watch and interact live at http://bit.ly/4nJmbr Tell your friends! #severedfifthJun 10 01:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo #Apple's Worst #Security Breach: 114,000 #iPad Owners Exposed http://bit.ly/dt7Tuh #p2 // #Goatse Security! #omg #lulzJun 10 01:05
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TechrightsTitle: AT&T's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed | TPM LiveWire .::. Size~: 107.79 KBJun 10 01:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Comprehensive Test of Linux Desktop Environments Shows They Are as Good or Better Than #Windows http://ur1.ca/06j76Jun 10 01:08
TechrightsTitle: User Interfaces Compared  Five Operating Systems, TWENTY Tests - Tech .::. Size~: 66.98 KBJun 10 01:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jdub #Swimming in #syrup is as easy as #water: http://is.gd/ cJqvw <- i think i am aroused. // Best. School. Ever.Jun 10 01:09
TechrightsTitle: is.gd URL Shortener - The Shortest URLs Around .::. Size~: 2.23 KBJun 10 01:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren here's some amusing relief :) http://jwz.livejournal.com/1245142.html #RandomVideo #RobinHoodTaxJun 10 01:16
TechrightsTitle: jwz - The Banker .::. Size~: 70.67 KBJun 10 01:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@DarthNader makes ya laugh doesn't it. I think I'll criminalise anybody doing anything I don't like. Think it'll work? #Israel #bdsJun 10 01:17
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DaemonFCender2070, The consumer advocate of the Dark Side?Jun 10 01:19
DaemonFCthat doesn't quite match upJun 10 01:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jdub #Swimming in #syrup is as easy as #water: http://is.gd/cJqvw <- i think i am aroused. // Best. School. Ever.Jun 10 01:20
TechrightsTitle: Swimming in syrup is as easy as water : Nature News .::. Size~: 28.69 KBJun 10 01:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] http://bit.ly/d4LSy3 #chomsky 'Wrecking 3rd World economy & savaging its civilians are..standard #US elite behavior' cc @MirandacanJun 10 01:25
TechrightsTitle: Fred Branfman: A Warning From Noam Chomsky on the Threat of Elites - Truthdig .::. Size~: 139.04 KBJun 10 01:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@morrick RT @nevenmrgan: Can't wait to hear all about how Apple didn't invent 320+ ppi phone displays // Steve Jobs invented friggin PAPERJun 10 01:33
DaemonFChttp://www.macworld.com/article/151913/2010/06/osx_securityhole.htmlJun 10 01:33
TechrightsTitle: Researchers: Windows 7 and Mac OS X both hit by fundamental flaws | Security | Macworld .::. Size~: 63.75 KBJun 10 01:33
DaemonFChttp://searchengineland.com/colbert-goes-from-0-to-40-bing-mentions-in-2-minutes-for-charity-43980Jun 10 01:36
TechrightsTitle: Colbert Goes From 0-To-40 Bing Mentions In 2 Minutes, For Charity .::. Size~: 45.28 KBJun 10 01:36
DaemonFCStephen Colbert is pimping Bing nowJun 10 01:36
DaemonFCMicrosoft paid him $2,500 for each mention of it on his show apparentlyJun 10 01:36
cubezzzreally?Jun 10 01:37
DaemonFCadvertising and fake charity at onceJun 10 01:37
DaemonFCyeah, they're donating it to the oil spill cleanup thingJun 10 01:37
DaemonFCclip is on that pageJun 10 01:37
cubezzzoh well that's not so badJun 10 01:37
DaemonFChahJun 10 01:38
DaemonFC"Bing is a great website for doing internet searches.....I know because I Google'd it"Jun 10 01:38
DaemonFC:PJun 10 01:38
cubezzzI'm trying to remember what I used in 1996Jun 10 01:39
cubezzzaltavista maybe?Jun 10 01:39
cubezzzexcite?Jun 10 01:39
DaemonFCmaybeJun 10 01:39
DaemonFCthere was also AstalivistaJun 10 01:39
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 01:39
DaemonFCLycos maybe?Jun 10 01:40
DaemonFCMammadotcom?Jun 10 01:40
DaemonFC:PJun 10 01:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Don't worry kittens, that nasty old Baleia Maldita has just been horribly killed by drowning in #oil.Jun 10 01:40
DaemonFCHotbot?Jun 10 01:40
DaemonFCthere were a lot of search engines back thenJun 10 01:41
DaemonFCmany of them tankedJun 10 01:41
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 01:41
cubezzzarchie was first, then gopherJun 10 01:48
cubezzzwell, pre-www Jun 10 01:50
cubezzzwebcrawler in 1994Jun 10 01:50
cubezzzLycosJun 10 01:50
cubezzzlater on Magellan, Excite, Infoseek, Inktomi, Northern Light, and AltaVistaJun 10 01:51
cubezzzI think some of those are still aroundJun 10 01:51
cubezzzthen google showed up in 1998Jun 10 01:51
WireWulfwebcrawlered on  ba ixs what most net.spiders arJun 10 01:55
WireWulffuckJun 10 01:55
WireWulfmost net.spiders are base on webcrawlerJun 10 01:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Join us now for Severed Fifth videocast - new album, Frets On Fire game, new site, Street Team and more - http://is.gd/cJszf #severedfifthJun 10 02:01
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schestowitzJoin us now for spreads the sofwtware... thehehe... free software... [RMS voice]Jun 10 02:07
schestowitzI can't sleepJun 10 02:07
WireWulfxsleep is over ratedJun 10 02:07
WireWulfcode sumthing in ncursesJun 10 02:07
schestowitzTried for 20 minutes woke up after pointless FPS dreams  where I'm shooting dinosaurs and relood doesn't workJun 10 02:07
schestowitz*loadJun 10 02:07
DaemonFCI just got done playing Portal until my brain hurtJun 10 02:08
DaemonFCthat game really messes with youJun 10 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #GNU #Linux: #VortexBox 1.4, #Sabayon Linux x86/x86-64 5.3 http://ur1.ca/06jfm http://ur1.ca/06jfoJun 10 02:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Canonical Limits Hardware Support in #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux , Adds Enterprise Support http://ur1.ca/06jfp http://ur1.ca/06jfrJun 10 02:08
TechrightsTitle: vortexbox.org  » Blog Archive   » VortexBox 1.4 released .::. Size~: 17.87 KBJun 10 02:08
TechrightsTitle: Sabayon Forums &bull; View topic - Sabayon Linux 5.3 GNOME and KDE: Stable release .::. Size~: 40.66 KBJun 10 02:08
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Won't Run On Processors Below i686 ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 60.74 KBJun 10 02:08
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu to decommission SPARC port, IA64 port in jeopardy - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.81 KBJun 10 02:08
schestowitzDaemonFC: I haven\t had FPS dreams for agesJun 10 02:09
schestowitzNot since I was playing ET all dayJun 10 02:09
DaemonFCPortal is more puzzle than shooterJun 10 02:09
DaemonFCthe only thing you're armed with it the portal gun :PJun 10 02:09
schestowitzAnyway, I hate it when I go to sleep and the body just wants a napJun 10 02:09
DaemonFChappens now and thenJun 10 02:09
DaemonFCbody knocks you out for no real reason then you wake up 20 minutes later drooling all over yourselfJun 10 02:10
DaemonFCanother way nature says fuck youJun 10 02:10
schestowitzWell, not I'm bored. No train of thoughtJun 10 02:10
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:10
schestowitzhttp://www.nature.com/news/2004/040920/full/news040920-2.htmlJun 10 02:10
TechrightsTitle: Swimming in syrup is as easy as water : Nature News .::. Size~: 28.59 KBJun 10 02:10
DaemonFCschestowitz, My theory is when that happens, the inter-dimensional aliens beam into the roomJun 10 02:12
DaemonFCcollect the old data-collection moduleJun 10 02:12
DaemonFCand insert a new one into my brainJun 10 02:12
DaemonFCit's jsut a guessJun 10 02:12
schestowitzOh, yeah, that..Jun 10 02:12
schestowitzI got abducted by teh alienzJun 10 02:13
schestowitzThey took me to their mother shipJun 10 02:13
WireWulfbig round thing?Jun 10 02:13
schestowitzStuck tubes in my belly button and put me in an embryoJun 10 02:13
DaemonFCI'm actually a member of their species, they're using me as an advance scout without my knowledgeJun 10 02:13
DaemonFCI think I'm human and that's the entire pointJun 10 02:13
schestowitzWireWulf: yeah, how did you know !! :-)Jun 10 02:13
WireWulflolJun 10 02:13
DaemonFCone day they'll come to Earth and feed on all the humansJun 10 02:14
WireWulfwas my U-fo ;)Jun 10 02:14
DaemonFCand remind me who I amJun 10 02:14
schestowitzThen they took me up in their craftJun 10 02:14
DaemonFCor maybe that was the movie LifeforceJun 10 02:14
DaemonFC:PJun 10 02:14
DaemonFCeither way, I can only hopeJun 10 02:14
DaemonFC:DJun 10 02:14
schestowitzAnd tossed me on WTC after changing me into a plane-shaped objectJun 10 02:14
WireWulfheheJun 10 02:14
schestowitzAnd that's how I landed on the moom for the first time in history... in 2010Jun 10 02:14
DaemonFCdon't say thatJun 10 02:15
WireWulfschestowitz we also cloned you and forced you to eat yourself xDJun 10 02:15
DaemonFCpeople will accuse you of faking itJun 10 02:15
schestowitzNo fakingJun 10 02:15
schestowitzIt really did happenJun 10 02:15
DaemonFCWe should have kept the moon landings covered up so all the crazy people would insist we went there and weren't telling anyoneJun 10 02:15
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:15
schestowitzI'll show you the crop circlesJun 10 02:15
WireWulfand the areas he was raped Jun 10 02:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC: how does a python know its own tail and never chews it?Jun 10 02:17
schestowitz*chewJun 10 02:17
*WireWulf is reminded of rosetta stoned by tool from this convoJun 10 02:17
DaemonFCliving things have a tendency to not inflict damage upon themselvesJun 10 02:17
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:17
DaemonFCthat's why Jun 10 02:17
DaemonFCliving things that do inflict damage upon themselves are malfunctioningJun 10 02:18
schestowitzBut how would they know?Jun 10 02:18
DaemonFCor so they're toldJun 10 02:18
schestowitzSome dogs still chase their tailJun 10 02:18
DaemonFCdo they catch it?Jun 10 02:19
*WireWulf is R malfunctioning thenJun 10 02:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Gets Added Enterprise Support http://ur1.ca/06jhz http://ur1.ca/06ji1 http://ur1.ca/06ji3Jun 10 02:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Flavours and Variants of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux in Review, Interview http://ur1.ca/06ji0 http://ur1.ca/06ji4 http://ur1.ca/06ji5Jun 10 02:19
TechrightsTitle: Canonical rejigs Ubuntu support services • The Register .::. Size~: 38.92 KBJun 10 02:19
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu: when Linux ideology meets business | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 69.58 KBJun 10 02:19
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu Netbook Remix on the Acer Aspire One | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 81.6 KBJun 10 02:19
TechrightsTitle: Peppermint Team  Q&A with OpenBytes « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 52.36 KBJun 10 02:19
TechrightsTitle: Linux Mint 9 review   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 63.28 KBJun 10 02:19
DaemonFCjono, I want you to indemnify me against Microsoft lawsuits even though you guys stay out of the US so you don't have to comply with our lawsJun 10 02:20
ender2070Canonical is lameJun 10 02:20
DaemonFCcan you do that?Jun 10 02:20
DaemonFCB-)Jun 10 02:20
DaemonFCender2070, If you think about it, they really don't have any assets here to seize that would act as collateral on that kind of contractJun 10 02:20
DaemonFCit's not worth the paper it's printed onJun 10 02:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren also,i want to know how an armed citizen can use a gun or threaten armed law enforcement successfully &what happens after that.Jun 10 02:21
DaemonFCSince they would be able to leave you high and dry if Microsoft did manage to sue and win, why pay them for "indemnification" contracts they aren't bound to honor?Jun 10 02:22
schestowitz"You don mess with the Tony, man!"Jun 10 02:23
DaemonFCwell, it would be like a Canadian company suing me in a Canadian courtJun 10 02:23
DaemonFCI would just tell them to piss offJun 10 02:23
DaemonFCsame thingJun 10 02:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@riahlahren and what are, specifically, some drawbacks of ubiquitous handgun ownership and/or carrying in urban environmentsJun 10 02:24
DaemonFCyou would have to get the foreign government to agree to seize their assets to enforce the rulings of your court systemJun 10 02:24
DaemonFCgood luck with thatJun 10 02:24
schestowitzITCJun 10 02:25
DaemonFCIt's why I never do any business with a foreign company that involves the exchange of moneyJun 10 02:25
DaemonFCthey could screw me over and I can't do anything about itJun 10 02:25
*WireWulf sings about moneyJun 10 02:25
DaemonFCthe only exception to that rule is if there's some kind of intermediary with fraud protectionJun 10 02:26
DaemonFClike Chinese outfit doesn't cough up my ipod knockoff, ebay pays me backJun 10 02:26
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:26
DaemonFCthat sort of thingJun 10 02:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NanoNote With #GNU #Linux on Board for Less Than $100 http://ostatic.com/blog/ben-nanonote-aims-to-bring-open-source-tenets-to-hardwareJun 10 02:27
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DaemonFCthen there's deals you know are too good to be true, like when Nelson Mandela emails you on your Hotmail accountJun 10 02:27
DaemonFCtelling you that you won the South African lotteryJun 10 02:27
DaemonFCand somehow it gets in your inbox while half your legit emails are getting put in the junk folderJun 10 02:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at New #Vinux and #Qimo http://ur1.ca/06jj2 http://ur1.ca/06jj3 #Ubuntu #GNU #LinuxJun 10 02:28
DaemonFCB-)Jun 10 02:28
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DaemonFCI mean, who has time to dick around with fraud such as their car insurance bill being due?Jun 10 02:29
DaemonFCNelson Mandela says I won the South African lotteryJun 10 02:29
DaemonFCthere will be plenty of money to pay many car insurance billsJun 10 02:29
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: take the prizeJun 10 02:30
DaemonFCand many cars on which to pay themJun 10 02:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'A who’s who of #Obama admin goes a long way in explaining call for higher military spending' http://bit.ly/9imQN8 #war #waste #corruptionJun 10 02:30
DaemonFCschestowitz, Those scam emails are useful reallyJun 10 02:30
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DaemonFCjust take the social security number or check routing numbers or whatever of someone you don't likeJun 10 02:30
DaemonFCand fill in the blanks with thatJun 10 02:30
DaemonFC:DJun 10 02:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @fallow @splorp http://cl.ly/75e5c2c4d182206d3463 #accessibility #irony #OhThePixelsJun 10 02:32
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DaemonFClater on they'll sure wish they bought the credit report protection plans from the bureaus that allowed their credit to be destroyed in the first placeJun 10 02:32
DaemonFCwon't they? :)Jun 10 02:32
DaemonFCyou're teaching them a valuable life lesson, schestowitz Jun 10 02:33
DaemonFCjust pay the crooks now and get it over withJun 10 02:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:33
DaemonFCbefore some even worse crooks take advantage of youJun 10 02:33
DaemonFConce you pay your protection money, nobody else is gonna bother you, see?Jun 10 02:34
DaemonFC:DJun 10 02:34
DaemonFCthis is Equifax turf, see?Jun 10 02:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Why we still talking about #Obama? He's only an actor, fer chrissake. Let's start talking about The Permanent Administration. #SameOld #MICJun 10 02:34
DaemonFCand if you don't like it, you can answer to them, see?Jun 10 02:34
DaemonFC:PJun 10 02:34
schestowitzThe Microsoft employees smear me again: http://twitter.com/cjadamscollier/statuses/15808761470Jun 10 02:35
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schestowitzok, back to bedJun 10 02:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM With #Linux : New Examples of the Trend http://ur1.ca/06jkx http://ur1.ca/06jkzJun 10 02:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HP Puts #Linux on Millions of Printers, #Marvell Puts Linux on Plugs http://ur1.ca/06jky http://ur1.ca/06jl0Jun 10 02:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 yes, actorJun 10 02:37
TechrightsTitle: TI spins 1GHz ARM Cortex-A8 SoC - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.06 KBJun 10 02:37
TechrightsTitle: UK Non-profit Aims to Reduce Embedded Linux Fragmentation on ARM Devices - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 29.99 KBJun 10 02:37
TechrightsTitle: HP launches ePrint cloud service and four web-enabled printers - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.22 KBJun 10 02:37
TechrightsTitle:  4Home and Marvell Introduce Jointly-Developed Plug Computer for Energy Management -- SILICON VALLEY, Calif., June 7 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 52.03 KBJun 10 02:37
DaemonFCjono, Does Wubi still mess up your boot.ini after you uninstall it?Jun 10 02:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@eikonos it's kinda win-win-kaching-boom-win-kaching-boom-win-win-boom-kaching ... with all the blood, screaming, edited out for #foxJun 10 02:41
ender2070I think the beagleboard is niceJun 10 02:41
ender2070a little more expensive but fasterJun 10 02:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@eikonos #religion and race are just handy levers to pull when needed. Like getting a big spending bill over the line. #war #racismJun 10 02:42
ender2070you can power it via usb tooJun 10 02:42
ender2070or any cell phone charger that uses usbJun 10 02:42
*DaemonFC forcibly sterilizes ender2070 with an aftermarket ipod wireless charging matJun 10 02:45
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:45
ender2070http://beagleboard.org/hardware-xMJun 10 02:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @HoodedMan @palestine crimes I saw on the Mavi Marmara http://bit.ly/aF5ErL //this is horrible! outrage against humanity. #gaza #israelJun 10 02:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @0r3z Sometimes I get the impression my #life is an anti- pattern. // I'm pretty sure you're not the only one!Jun 10 02:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z Ah, I mean, who feels that about their OWN lives, not yours! OK!Jun 10 02:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @MarciRobin I scored 50 colored pencils for $11. #Joytime starts now. // twitpics of aftermath or it didn't happen!Jun 10 02:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@mparent77772 Palin offering advice to President is like Paris Hilton offering advice //going to advise abt plastic surgery? or quitting?Jun 10 03:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @georgegalloway Just rceivd email from Israeli govt address,saying "DEATH TO PALESTINE" //this is how we know they're committed to peaceJun 10 03:06
*DaemonFC employs the heimlich counter-maneuver to ender2070 Jun 10 03:09
DaemonFCthey've spent thousands of years blowing each other upJun 10 03:10
DaemonFCthe best we can hope for is that they both completely succeed, at the same time, permanently, without taking out everyone else with themJun 10 03:10
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 03:10
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/microsoft-slips-ie-firefox-add-on-into-toolbar-update.arsJun 10 03:12
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft is sneaking more of their spyware into FirefoxJun 10 03:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] There is something tragicomic about an audience who think they are seeing the cabal unravelled by a chalkboard jester on a #Murdoch channel.Jun 10 03:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A #Murdoch channel.Jun 10 03:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Who do y'all think #Murdoch is? Sigh. Never mind.Jun 10 03:18
DaemonFCMurdoch is GodJun 10 03:18
ender2070news is all biasedJun 10 03:26
ender2070you gotta go into all the old histories and read, you'll have a head start on all the bank funded journalismJun 10 03:27
ender2070you have two forcesJun 10 03:27
ender2070oil funded news, and bank funded newsJun 10 03:27
ender2070two sides to the same birdJun 10 03:28
ender2070most people will waste their time arguing about which one is more evilJun 10 03:29
ender2070meanwhile both are doing the same shitJun 10 03:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] For those who missed the Severed Fifth videocast you can see it at http://is.gd/cJyiM #severedfifthJun 10 03:30
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DaemonFCender2070, YOur problem is you're taking sidesJun 10 03:34
DaemonFCwho cares?Jun 10 03:34
ender2070huh?Jun 10 03:36
ender2070im not taking sidesJun 10 03:36
DaemonFCthey're both trying to wipe each other outJun 10 03:38
DaemonFCI wish them both luckJun 10 03:38
ender2070lolJun 10 03:38
ender2070let me put it this wayJun 10 03:39
ender2070if you control both sides of a chess game, you'll know all the movesJun 10 03:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@zennie62 #FBI denies giving Joran Van Der Sloot $25K // easy to prove! we'll just ask him where the money came from. ... uh wait...Jun 10 03:48
WireWulfender2070++Jun 10 04:01
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ender2070:)Jun 10 04:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq HOLY CRAP. It looks like the damn well is ON FIRE! How is that even possible? http://bit.ly/akTG9X #p2 // sure does. #oil #bpJun 10 04:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@valdiskrebs Baghdad Bob @ BP PR: What oil/tanks? beating back enemy/oil, we are winning //another manmade disaster still raging in 7yrs?Jun 10 04:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @a_picazo *HURL* RT @pmoharper Teneycke pushes to create a #Fox channel in Cda. Ready 4 Ezra Levant Show? http://bit.ly/a6jWTU #cdnpoliJun 10 05:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@RWRenfrew RT @cdashiell: There is not a single #progressive #government in the #MiddleEast. // & vanishingly few elsewhereJun 10 05:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @saraheartsyou I suggest eating #hummus and pico de gallo toghether. // OK! I can do that!Jun 10 05:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rayvelline #Israel to criminalize #BDS http://bit.ly/ aVqY8c if u initiate,encourage,or provide info abt boycotts //Hilarious. In a way.Jun 10 05:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @careabthealth http://tinyurl.com/2cv2n3r Watching the Protesters: The Spies Who Know Too Much // wow! #mustread #fbi #nsa #acluJun 10 05:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @kevsmith Performance, stability, ease of use: #riak-0.11.0, w/bitcask default storage engine http://bit.ly/aDi8YK //sexy #erlang #nosqlJun 10 05:42
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WireWulfi think i am going to randomly type lesbians everytime i am pingedJun 10 06:12
WireWulfi have pinging turn off so this could be interrestingJun 10 06:13
cubezzzI need a dos boot disk :-/Jun 10 07:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] c!GNU #Linux First With a Two-Screen #Tablet http://ur1.ca/05sdo http://ur1.ca/06ktoJun 10 07:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Glimpse at #GNU #Linux Diversity in Phones, Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/06ktp http://ur1.ca/06ktqJun 10 07:38
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schestowitz> Re: 74 Democrats sold us out to AT&T, Verizon and ComcastJun 10 07:41
schestowitz> Subject: 74 Democrats sold us out to AT&T, Verizon and Comcast Dear Friend,Jun 10 07:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:41
schestowitz> 74 Democratic members of Congress just sold you out to AT&T, Verizon and Comcast.Jun 10 07:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> They signed industry-backed letters telling the FCC to abandon efforts to protect Internet users by prohibiting big companies from blocking Internet traffic.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Not only is this letter an attack on net neutrality, but by signing the industry letter, they are attempting to drastically undercut the FCC's ability to make a fast, affordable and open Internet available to everyone in America. They are actually taking a position against the interests of rural and low-income communities.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> This is unacceptable.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> We need to make sure these members of Congress know that their constituents are paying attention and will hold them accountable when they undermine net neutrality protections.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> I just signed a petition to these 74 House Democrats telling them that I'm upset by their decision to side with the wealthy telecommunications corporations over their constituents. I hope you do, too.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 07:42
schestowitz> Have a look and take action at the link below.Jun 10 07:42
schestowitzhttp://act.credoaction.com/campaign/74_dems/?r_by=-2960494-mjjo12x&rc=paste1Jun 10 07:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/attachment/17907700 "Dude, this is what I don't get. !ubuntu is playing the card right, and doing what is right. Why are some many people talking bad stuff about #canonical, They are not giving protection money, because they know that #microsoft can not prove or back up what they are talking about. People should consider that before talking trash about them."Jun 10 07:46
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schestowitz"one think i'm happy to say in favor of canonical- they haven't given in yet (though misunderstanding mono's role isn't helping)"http://identi.ca/conversation/35383599#notice-35599786Jun 10 07:46
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schestowitzUbuntu is becominh ARM/Intel only .......... "i wonder if that means lubuntu will only run on i686 :)" they also abandoned PPC. use DebianJun 10 07:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Android/Linux Grows Fast in #Motorola and Elsewhere http://ur1.ca/06kw7 http://ur1.ca/06kwa http://ur1.ca/06kwc http://ur1.ca/06kweJun 10 07:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Used Beyond Phones http://ur1.ca/06kw9 http://ur1.ca/06kwb http://ur1.ca/06kwd http://ur1.ca/06kwfJun 10 07:51
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cubezzzhey anyone remember which address the parallel port is on?Jun 10 08:02
cubezzzah ok, now I see itJun 10 08:02
WireWulfi do love dumb kids who have never read the xcommunist manifeasto Jun 10 08:05
WireWulfhi cubezzzJun 10 08:05
cubezzzheyJun 10 08:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IDG / #IDC is Belittling #GNU #Linux Again, Using Known Distortions http://ur1.ca/06kz1 IDG: The Fox News of ITJun 10 08:09
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WireWulfcubezzz why am i an asshole to ppl??Jun 10 08:10
cubezzzeh?Jun 10 08:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Zemlin - Linux can compete but Apple is the standard to beat in consumer electronics/mobile computing. http://is.gd/cJKUn #floss #fossJun 10 08:11
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cubezzzhow do I know? :)Jun 10 08:11
WireWulfdunnoJun 10 08:13
WireWulfbut it has gotton to be a everyday thing with me to force agurments over the failure of socialismJun 10 08:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Cyber War: Microsoft a weak link in national security. http://is.gd/cJLGFJun 10 08:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @CNNInternatDesk: US: Border Patrol criticized over shooting http://on.cnn.com/dCzew8 [via @beranger_v4 ]Jun 10 08:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A look at the 10-year anniversary #IBM and #Novell are celebrating; Novell is trying to poach #Solaris users http://ur1.ca/06l1c #oracleJun 10 08:20
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WireWulfwb cubezzzJun 10 08:21
cubezzztesting parallel port :-/Jun 10 08:22
WireWulffun funJun 10 08:23
WireWulfold school networking?Jun 10 08:23
schestowitz[08:13] <WireWulf> but it has gotton to be a everyday thing with me to force agurments over the failure of socialismJun 10 08:23
schestowitzFunnyJun 10 08:23
schestowitzThe US has socialismJun 10 08:23
schestowitzNot Obama like Fox would have you believeJun 10 08:23
schestowitzBut the bailout Bush had designedJun 10 08:24
schestowitzAnd McBush then supportedJun 10 08:24
WireWulfschestowitz mmhmm but all is fixableJun 10 08:24
schestowitzThe US turns socialist when it suits the bankersJun 10 08:24
cubezzzWireWulf, yeahJun 10 08:24
schestowitzWireWulf: let's hope, I just don't see it happening in this decadeJun 10 08:24
WireWulfthe US turns socialist when a few idiot greedy assholes get into ppowerJun 10 08:25
cubezzznormal mode didn't work, switching to bidirectionalJun 10 08:25
cubezzzw00tJun 10 08:25
cubezzzwoot^999Jun 10 08:25
cubezzzit works!Jun 10 08:25
WireWulfbut heh ppl are idiots when it comes to understanding my fears Jun 10 08:25
cubezzzwell thanks for not telling me about bidirectional mode TyanJun 10 08:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Is Microsoft pushing stealth updates to users again? This time, it's toolbars ... http://is.gd/cJM38Jun 10 08:26
cubezzznormal == the suxxorsJun 10 08:26
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WireWulfM$ monitors everythingJun 10 08:26
cubezzzme genius :)Jun 10 08:27
WireWulfcubezzz r u?Jun 10 08:27
cubezzzyeah tonight I amJun 10 08:27
cubezzzmy parallel-fu is awesomeJun 10 08:27
cubezzznow I can irc on 486 :)Jun 10 08:28
WireWulfdoes it beat my ethernet or wifi?Jun 10 08:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] 100% Linux, 100% Copyleft Hardware, 100% GPL software. not just a device, it is a philosophy and fun - http://bit.ly/bywTMs #hardware #fossJun 10 08:28
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cubezzzno, but now I can use my old 486 and IRC always has a screenJun 10 08:28
WireWulfniceJun 10 08:28
WireWulfi have no parallel portsJun 10 08:29
cubezzzI can't wait to lord over Diablo :)Jun 10 08:29
cubezzzj/kJun 10 08:29
cubezzzwow, that took a few days to figure out Jun 10 08:29
cubezzznow I guess I don't need a ISA ethernet cardJun 10 08:30
cubezzzjust imagine another 20 yearsJun 10 08:31
cubezzzand me using 2.2 kernel stillJun 10 08:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] OneConf is good news for Ubuntu users. http://is.gd/cJMkG #floss #fossJun 10 08:32
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WireWulfcubezzzyour crazyJun 10 08:32
cubezzzheheJun 10 08:32
WireWulf2.6 cant do th parallel networking?Jun 10 08:33
cubezzzyeah it canJun 10 08:34
cubezzznot sure about it working on a 486 thoughJun 10 08:34
WireWulf2.6 would have to be custom compiledJun 10 08:34
cubezzzprobablyJun 10 08:35
cubezzzand would it even work on 16 megs of ram?Jun 10 08:35
WireWulfno clueJun 10 08:35
cubezzzat least it's new 2.2 :)Jun 10 08:35
cubezzz2.2.26 was the latest and greatest 2.2Jun 10 08:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Cyber War: Microsoft a weak link in national security - http://bit.ly/aoiIsO stuff at the end of piece is worrying #microsoftJun 10 08:36
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cubezzzdamn, I don't even have ftp on this thingJun 10 08:36
cubezzzor sshJun 10 08:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The now-vulnerable #Novell swings with some of the most threatening (to software freedom) phenomena http://ur1.ca/06l52 #fogcomputingJun 10 08:37
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WireWulflolJun 10 08:37
cubezzzI have ftpput onlyJun 10 08:40
WireWulfi have ncursesftp or sumthing like thatJun 10 08:40
cubezzzoh and I have telnetJun 10 08:41
cubezzzI can't even do an ftp getJun 10 08:41
cubezzzhow do I get a file then?Jun 10 08:41
WireWulfwget?Jun 10 08:42
cubezzzah, I have that :)Jun 10 08:42
WireWulfyay :)Jun 10 08:42
cubezzzI guess busybox tries to save every byte possibleJun 10 08:42
WireWulfyupJun 10 08:44
WireWulfi dontuse it thoJun 10 08:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] When open source licenses collide. http://is.gd/cJMTt #floss #fossJun 10 08:44
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WireWulfbut i figure wget is whatevery body gotsJun 10 08:44
WireWulfcubezzz got a web browser?Jun 10 08:46
cubezzzyesJun 10 08:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PHP Programming Turns 15, #Qt Developer Days 2010 Planned http://ur1.ca/06l78 http://ur1.ca/06l7aJun 10 08:48
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WireWulf15 years of PHP wowJun 10 08:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analyst Dumps #Apple for #Linux / #Android, NPR Sets Its Android App Free/Libre http://ur1.ca/06l77? http://ur1.ca/06l79Jun 10 08:49
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WireWulfi missread that and thought it said PDPJun 10 08:49
schestowitzPDP?Jun 10 08:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Cyber War: Microsoft a weak link in national security - http://bit.ly/aoiIsO stuff at the end of piece is worrying #microsoftJun 10 08:51
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WireWulfschestowitz PDPJun 10 08:54
WireWulfas in PDP-7 what unix was written in 60 years agoJun 10 08:54
cubezzznot 60 yearsJun 10 08:56
cubezzzthat would be before multicsJun 10 08:56
cubezzz2010 - 60 = 1950Jun 10 08:57
WireWulfyeah by badJun 10 08:58
cubezzzmore like 40 years, if thatJun 10 08:58
WireWulf1963-65ishJun 10 08:58
cubezzzWireWulf, I was looking at PDP-11 Unix just the other dayJun 10 08:59
WireWulfand it may have been PDP-11Jun 10 08:59
WireWulfi am half asleepJun 10 08:59
WireWulfbut the damn weath is keeping me upJun 10 08:59
cubezzzthe source is on the net actuallyJun 10 09:00
cubezzzit won't compile on anything I have of courseJun 10 09:00
WireWulfi have a PDP-11 simulatorJun 10 09:01
WireWulfbut i really could karelessJun 10 09:02
cubezzzcoolJun 10 09:02
cubezzz:-/Jun 10 09:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Tivo loses software patent fight. http://is.gd/cJNKbJun 10 09:02
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cubezzzwell, it was the machine that Stallman used to create GNUJun 10 09:02
WireWulfhttp://simh.trailing-edge.com/ <<<< cubezzz just cuz you are a weird fellow with a taste for old a PDP simulator then needs workJun 10 09:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open Source Foundation for #Africa (FOSSFA) is Looking to Expand http://ur1.ca/06l9jJun 10 09:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web War is Being Won by #FreeSoftware , Despite #FUD and Lobbying http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2010/06/epic-war-of-browsers.htmlJun 10 09:05
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/news/dell-considered-going-private/430700Jun 10 09:05
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WireWulfcubezzz check out the link i posted you may or may not like it (if you can run it)Jun 10 09:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera TiVo dos some mad thingsJun 10 09:07
WireWulfTiVo is prue evilJun 10 09:07
cubezzztivo is evil yesJun 10 09:08
schestowitzI recently found out that it phones every night even with volume control historyJun 10 09:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz: I am just reading TR now and see you wrote a piece earlier on tivo.Jun 10 09:09
schestowitzThen there's TiVoisation, patent aggression, GPL compliance too, I thinkJun 10 09:09
cubezzzthe problem with tivo is you can't hack itJun 10 09:10
cubezzznot unless you're uber goodJun 10 09:10
WireWulfTiVo cost extra money a mountJun 10 09:10
WireWulf*mouthJun 10 09:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera yes, I didJun 10 09:10
WireWulfjust by a computer and record it that wayJun 10 09:10
schestowitztivo is a razor blameJun 10 09:10
cubezzzI still need a good non-tivo DVRJun 10 09:10
schestowitz*bladeJun 10 09:10
schestowitzOopsJun 10 09:10
schestowitzRather, that's their servicesJun 10 09:11
cubezzztivo hardware is interesting thoughJun 10 09:11
cubezzzit's got a very slow 33 mhz cpu and it can still record decent videoJun 10 09:11
schestowitzTiVO is sold at a loss, like razor without the bladesJun 10 09:11
cubezzzthe basic idea is goodJun 10 09:11
cubezzzthe implementation is badJun 10 09:11
schestowitzMost PVRs seem to run LinuxJun 10 09:11
schestowitzI can't think of anything else for them to decently run onJun 10 09:11
WireWulfopenBSDJun 10 09:12
WireWulfxDJun 10 09:12
WireWulflike my toasterJun 10 09:12
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WireWulfschestowitz it could run the smallest OS ever madeJun 10 09:16
WireWulfwhich would be an awesome 1kb i guessJun 10 09:16
cubezzzeh?Jun 10 09:17
cubezzzan OS that runs in 1K?Jun 10 09:17
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/ABI-Research-Mobile-Linux-in-Smartphones/?kc=rssJun 10 09:17
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schestowitzLinux has wonJun 10 09:17
schestowitznetbsd?Jun 10 09:17
schestowitzI think that's what the famous toaster usesJun 10 09:17
cubezzzbasic linux is the smallest I know ofJun 10 09:18
cubezzz2 3.5" disksJun 10 09:18
WireWulfschestowitz i want un hackable toast not net surfing toast Jun 10 09:18
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/GCC-allows-C-to-some-degree-1012611.htmlJun 10 09:18
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cubezzzuhhJun 10 09:20
cubezzzunhackable toast?Jun 10 09:20
WireWulfyupJun 10 09:20
WireWulfopenBSD clames to be the best BSD for surcirty Jun 10 09:20
WireWulfecuse the spelling i get worse with sleeplessnessJun 10 09:20
cubezzzwhen you said toaster I thought video toasterJun 10 09:20
WireWulfno i meant a toasterJun 10 09:21
cubezzzok :)Jun 10 09:21
WireWulfi could have put freeBSD and my toaster did (or try to do) everythingJun 10 09:22
schestowitz'But for the FSF - who’s founder Richard Stallman is the legendary developer of GNU/Linux, an operating system that promotes free software - the gray area doesn’t end in the just the name. While they, along with many others, maintain the selling of illegally licensed content is wrong, their stance on free distribution is a bit different.'Jun 10 09:23
schestowitzbad headline: http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=166305Jun 10 09:23
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WireWulfi think all software should be free and fossJun 10 09:24
WireWulfthat would be funJun 10 09:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free #Database Software Brought to Companies Through Pro-Profit Entities http://ur1.ca/06ldf http://ur1.ca/06ldh http://ur1.ca/06ldiJun 10 09:33
TechrightsTitle: About | Press Release | Ingres VectorWise Delivers Business Analytics at the Speed of Thought  - Ingres .::. Size~: 28.15 KBJun 10 09:33
TechrightsTitle: EnterpriseDB Offers Unlimited Subscription for Postgres Plus Standard Server to Meet Growing Market Demand | Business Wire .::. Size~: 66.29 KBJun 10 09:33
TechrightsTitle: Continuent Tungsten Offers Scale-Out Solution for PostgreSQL 9  .::. Size~: 37.18 KBJun 10 09:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Gets Renaissance, Milestone http://ur1.ca/06ldg http://ur1.ca/06ldj http://ur1.ca/06ldl http://ur1.ca/06ldm#Jun 10 09:35
TechrightsTitle: What's Cooking in the Renaissance Kitchen? - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 55.77 KBJun 10 09:35
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Diablo-D3  * Add usleep(1000) before fork() in QProcess on hppa in order to decreaseJun 10 09:35
Diablo-D3    failure rate caused by #561203. Hopefully, probablity of the failureJun 10 09:35
Diablo-D3    becomes so low that packages do not FBTFS anymore. This hack is just anJun 10 09:35
Diablo-D3    ugly but very needed workaround for a common manifestation of the bug inJun 10 09:35
Diablo-D3    QProcess (patch 99_hppa_bug561203_decrease_failure_rate.diff).Jun 10 09:35
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Diablo-D3lol.Jun 10 09:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh, also last night I switched Mum from chromium daily builds to chrome on #ubuntu 9.10 #mumbuntu. Chromium was a bit unstable for her.Jun 10 09:44
WireWulfnutsack the thing you hate to be kicked inJun 10 09:46
WireWulfnutsack o nutsackJun 10 09:48
*WireWulf kicks the head of ubuntu in the nutsJun 10 09:48
schestowitzhttp://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifaworldcup/features/story/2010/06/09/f-world-cup-gutnick-soweto.htmlJun 10 09:49
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu wheeling through streets of Soweto .::. Size~: 61.08 KBJun 10 09:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Just 45 minute to go for foss telecast on GD1 channel - Topic - gimp, digikam, Pitivi - watch "vlc mms://124.124.36.38/gd1" #foss #schoolosJun 10 09:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Guardian science blog trials new way of reporting stories. http://is.gd/cJQBb example here http://is.gd/cJQMWJun 10 09:57
TechrightsTitle:  Alok Jha introduces 'story trackers': a new way to tall science stories | Science | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 75.86 KBJun 10 09:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Amusing hearing of images on Google home page. I never see it, I search directly in the address bar in chrome :)Jun 10 10:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera Guardian science blog trials new way of reporting stories. http://is.gd/cJQBb example here http://is.gd/cJQMWJun 10 10:05
TechrightsTitle:  Alok Jha introduces 'story trackers': a new way to tall science stories | Science | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 75.96 KBJun 10 10:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Project Releases: #WordPress 3.0 Release Candidate, #Rockbox 3.6 http://ur1.ca/06ljl http://ur1.ca/06ljoJun 10 10:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] UK and EU Governance Has #FreeSoftware Recommendations http://ur1.ca/06ljp http://ur1.ca/06ljq http://ur1.ca/06dkuJun 10 10:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I would love it if someone could tell @jwildeboer I didn't flag him in Identi.ca. @greve @karsten @zoobab? Please?Jun 10 10:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What is the link for GIMP video tutorials which was distributed with LFY?Jun 10 10:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Malta Prioritises #FreeSoftware http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Malta-Open-source-preferred-1017494.htmlJun 10 10:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux -Led Initiative Lobbies the Government to Adopt Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/06lpp http://ur1.ca/06lpr http://ur1.ca/06lptJun 10 10:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "In 2007, the UK’s National Archive [..] had 580TB of data in formats that were no longer commercially supported." http://ur1.ca/06lqlJun 10 10:47
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schestowitzhttp://weis2010.econinfosec.org/papers/session6/weis2010_ransbotham.pdfJun 10 10:53
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schestowitzMicrosoft is not mentioned here after allJun 10 10:53
schestowitzSomone said it was sponsored by MicrosoftJun 10 10:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More on Openness and Freedom: http://ur1.ca/06lt6 http://ur1.ca/06lt7 http://ur1.ca/06ezu http://ur1.ca/06lt8Jun 10 11:00
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schestowitzhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/monotype-imaging-contributes-simplified-chinese-font-myuppy-to-symbian-2010-06-08?reflink=MW_news_stmpJun 10 11:01
TechrightsTitle: Monotype Imaging Contributes Simplified Chinese Font "MYuppy" to Symbian - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 73.92 KBJun 10 11:01
schestowitzhttp://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/baidu-and-symbian-foundation-co-establish,1334099.shtmlJun 10 11:02
TechrightsTitle: Baidu and Symbian Foundation Co-Establish Joint Laboratory to Enable Wireless "Box Computing" on Symbian Platform  | Earth Times News .::. Size~: 53.34 KBJun 10 11:02
schestowitzThey aim for China now (Nokia)Jun 10 11:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Freedom in Software and Beyond Increases Productivity and Trust http://ur1.ca/06lt4 http://ur1.ca/06lt5 http://ur1.ca/06ltpJun 10 11:02
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schestowitz@andybleaden Canonical has just released an interesting study: "Ubuntu Growing Enormously In The Corporate UK" http://www.muktware.com/news/10/2010/171Jun 10 11:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/35637105Jun 10 11:07
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schestowitzhttp://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/06/01/microsoft_novell_hpc/Jun 10 11:10
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schestowitz"I have no idea how MS licensing works for their so-called "Windows HPC server" (or whatever it's called) but even if they don't hit you with per core licensing you can bet your bottom dollar that MS stands to make a bucket load of cash from a 64K Core HPC cluster. Or to put it another way, the owner of the HPC cluster will have to give a bucketload of cash to Microsoft."Jun 10 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Ulteo press release went unnoticed, which is good. Something about a Microsoft deal.Jun 10 11:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wow! This is some terrible coverage, pretending ARM rivals Nokia: http://ur1.ca/06ly3Jun 10 11:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Qi Hardware Promotes Open #Hardware http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364710,00.aspJun 10 11:26
TechrightsTitle:         Qi Hardware Launches Open-Source Computer | News & Opinion  | PCMag.com     .::. Size~: 74.53 KBJun 10 11:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Example of #ODF Standard Spreading http://ur1.ca/06lyt http://ur1.ca/06lyu http://ur1.ca/06lyv http://ur1.ca/06lywJun 10 11:27
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schestowitzA lot of people still have misconceptions about AppleJun 10 11:46
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/198209/how_does_apple_stay_in_the_spotlight_secrecy_steve_appeal.htmlJun 10 11:46
TechrightsTitle: How Does Apple Stay in the Spotlight? Secrecy, 'Steve Appeal' - PCWorld .::. Size~: 70.94 KBJun 10 11:46
schestowitzI'll give some examples of why we need to challenge them.Jun 10 11:46
schestowitzDelusion: Apple is based on open sourceJun 10 11:46
schestowitzReality: DRM traps, secrecy, software patentsJun 10 11:47
schestowitzThe 'Apple delusion' makes it an even more dangerous threat than Microsoft, which everyone knows is a sociopthJun 10 11:47
schestowitzhttp://features.techworld.com/virtualisation/3226158/can-virtual-pcs-save-desktop-linux/ "The only thing desktop Linux needs to be 'saved' from is FUD..."Jun 10 11:48
schestowitzHahaJun 10 11:48
schestowitzBingoJun 10 11:48
TechrightsTitle: Can virtual PCs save desktop Linux? - Feature - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 112.86 KBJun 10 11:48
TechrightsHahaJun 10 11:48
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/06/07/eric-knorr-on-desktop-linux/Jun 10 11:50
TechrightsTitle: Desktop GNU/Linux Does Not Need Saving | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.28 KBJun 10 11:50
schestowitzApparently it's so hilarious that even the bot burps out a bug and laughs :0)Jun 10 11:50
schestowitzhttp://www.booshnews.com/2010/06/08/interrupted-volume-conversion-process-using-lvconvert-cause-data-loss-in-linux/Jun 10 11:51
TechrightsTitle: IT, Hi-Tech, Science, Medicine and Architecture News  » Interrupted Volume Conversion Process Using lvconvert Cause Data Loss in Linux .::. Size~: 28.64 KBJun 10 11:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] List of Israel's permitted and prohibited items for Gaza blockade. http://is.gd/cJWUv #occupation #PalestineJun 10 11:51
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Diablo-D3[06:44:09] <schestowitz> http://features.techworld.com/virtualisation/3226158/can-virtual-pcs-save-desktop-linux/ "The only thing desktop Linux needs to be 'saved' from is FUD..."Jun 10 11:58
TechrightsTitle: Can virtual PCs save desktop Linux? - Feature - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 112.86 KBJun 10 11:58
Diablo-D3I agreeJun 10 11:58
*Diablo-D3 dents that urlJun 10 12:00
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] TechWorld loves their FUD http://ur1.ca/06m5s !Linux doesn't need Windows in a VM to win on the desktop, and VirtualBox is free and OSSJun 10 12:03
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schestowitzThey should do more articles like, "is Apple ready for the desktop?"Jun 10 12:07
schestowitzor, "when will Apple give up on the server?"Jun 10 12:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Increased the messages list area in #elmdentica by moving the timeline description to the title bar and the toolbar at the bottom (+handy)Jun 10 12:13
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv1FwOCNoZ8&feature=PlayList&p=173D4DC90DBA21BB&playnext_from=PL&index=26Jun 10 12:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Type your status here...Jun 10 12:40
schestowitzWireWulf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQi4-97GXrIJun 10 12:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Back to work..... :(Jun 10 12:42
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnVbulr2PvwJun 10 12:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to Twit.tv, surfing the net and tweeting....Android and HTC, a great combination!Jun 10 13:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] webuyanycar.com doesn't accept + signs in email addresses. Fail.Jun 10 13:38
MinceRschestowitz: also, "is windows ready for the desktop? will it ever be?"Jun 10 13:50
schestowitzSome people write thisJun 10 13:50
schestowitzBut in blogsJun 10 13:50
schestowitzNot IDGJun 10 13:50
schestowitzNeed "official" sourcesJun 10 13:51
schestowitz"official" = one we endorse/controlJun 10 13:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @popey @webuyanycar:2 + signs are fine in email addresses. Your site is broken sadly :(Jun 10 13:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Syllable Server 0.4 released: http://tinyurl.com/5odwjtJun 10 14:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @sprechsucht: ♺ @Piratenpartij: To fail or not to fail... Piratenpartij 2.0 #tk2010: http://wp.me/pW1BL-6P #piratenpartei #piratenJun 10 14:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @martinmajoor #Questa Sans Italic @exljbris > http://j.mp/aJQtoo // this is wonderful! #typographyJun 10 14:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@GaeMar01 Spill was no more an accident than #Bhopal. Both were all but *engineered*. #bp #dowJun 10 14:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] More bad news from the Netherlands: (google translation) Results of Dutch Elections is ICT (and FOSS) disaster: http://tinyurl.com/2wukhbkJun 10 14:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] EU warns against proprietary software: http://tinyurl.com/2wr3k5bJun 10 14:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jeremyday #Stanford #Javascript #Crypto Library http://bit.ly/ cxde1o <- Awesome. Consider it downloaded.Jun 10 14:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Funniest of all is Beck himself. O great freedom fighter, in the pay of the real rulers. What kind of psychopathy can maintain that denial?Jun 10 15:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mac OS X: The 'Missing' #Development Platform http://ur1.ca/06n3c Developers increasingly favour #Freesoftware , which means no #AppleJun 10 15:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] If top drilling experts from Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Brazil, & other #oil producing nations aren't on site now, then incompetence is afoot.Jun 10 15:02
oiaohmhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/6/8/exclusive-msi-bios-will-be-dead-three-years/  Another lot of changes.Jun 10 15:11
TechrightsTitle: Exclusive: BIOS will be dead in three years | THINQ.co.uk | Page One .::. Size~: 31.69 KBJun 10 15:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@whisper1111 but there is only one global body of water. This spill keeps me awake at nights.Jun 10 15:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Again “Sabotaging” #FreeSoftware on #Windows (and Why Windows is the Least Secure Platform) http://ur1.ca/06n5uJun 10 15:15
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schestowitzhttp://jagadees.wordpress.com/2010/06/03/fedora-13-replaces-gthumb-and-f-spot-with-shotwell/Jun 10 15:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.malavida.com/blog/b/20373/mandriva-elimina-beagle-y-el-proyecto-monoJun 10 15:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft is Again “Sabotaging” #FreeSoftware on #Windows and Why Windows is the Least Secure Platform http://ur1.ca/06n5uJun 10 15:22
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schestowitzOh, nice, we're in the OSI blogJun 10 15:23
schestowitzbblJun 10 15:23
MinceRin a positive or a negative light? :>Jun 10 15:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@TuNicaMami Why the fuck does my labtop have to freeze every fucken day // Buy a MacJun 10 15:24
MinceRlol failJun 10 15:25
ender2070they replaced f-spot a LONG time agoJun 10 15:25
ender2070(Fedora)Jun 10 15:25
MinceRmacs fail so hard they get crashed by TrashJun 10 15:26
MinceRBlow said soJun 10 15:26
schestowitzMinceR: positiveJun 10 15:26
MinceRthat's goodJun 10 15:26
schestowitzIt's about why Microsoft is bad for Open SourceJun 10 15:26
ender2070someone should make a firefox build that blocks MSJun 10 15:26
ender2070on windows systemsJun 10 15:26
ender2070now that people are using firefox on windows, ms has to get its spyware into it to keep an eyeJun 10 15:27
MinceRhow do you keep malware running as SYSTEM from modifying an installed program?Jun 10 15:28
MinceRit could be made more difficult, but not impossibleJun 10 15:28
MinceRperhaps the best way would be to warn the user about it so they know that m$ was trying to screw them (and maybe offer to revert or something)Jun 10 15:29
oiaohmIts basically impossible MinceRJun 10 15:31
oiaohmIf you are at system you can basically delete the harddrive out from under windows.Jun 10 15:31
oiaohmMS is built around the idea that programs running as system will lower there rights.Jun 10 15:32
oiaohmSo making themselves protected from attack.Jun 10 15:32
oiaohmIf they don't you are so screwed it not funny.Jun 10 15:32
oiaohmLinux depends on three levels of defence.  Number 1 user limiting of services.  Number 2 services steping down there rights.   Number 3 a big brother for applications ie LSM.Jun 10 15:34
MinceRno, it's built around the idea that people will buy any crap if they have no choice about itJun 10 15:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Wow, @amazonwatch just sent me dvd of #CRUDE. They do incredible work in the cause of justice for regional #environment & indigenous-Donate!Jun 10 15:34
oiaohmNT design guide states services should not be running as System.   MinceRJun 10 15:35
oiaohmMS does not obey the author of there own OS's instructions.Jun 10 15:35
oiaohmIe that is why we have problems.Jun 10 15:35
oiaohmMost of NT design is great.  Implementation o boy it suxs.  MinceRJun 10 15:37
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MinceRi wouldn't say that "hey, let's implement the GUI in the kernel because it will be OMG-FAST" is great design.Jun 10 15:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@whisper1111 what is #BP's contingency plan for a very large very angry mob? // that's when they turn to the govt to protect them, natchJun 10 15:38
Ziodotmatrixnow how am I going to embarrass myself today?Jun 10 15:38
MinceRprobably the parts they stole from the design of VMS were good, but they've corrupted them.Jun 10 15:38
oiaohmMinceR: GUI in kernel was not in the first NT design.Jun 10 15:38
oiaohmYou are refering to a latter implementation stuff up.Jun 10 15:39
oiaohmSame author wrote VMS and NT first design.Jun 10 15:39
MinceRthe way different kinds of programs (NT GUI, POSIX, whatever) are kept from interacting with one another isn't too great eitherJun 10 15:39
MinceRyes, but in the latter case he was working for clueless managers at m$.Jun 10 15:40
oiaohmReally if the design was followed it perfect with the subsystems.Jun 10 15:40
oiaohmntdll.dll was ment to be the interface bridge between subsystems.Jun 10 15:40
oiaohmAnd kernel.Jun 10 15:41
oiaohmLatter authors of NT building like POSIX and the like disreguarded the layout.Jun 10 15:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Harper's Potemkin Summit. #cdnpoliJun 10 15:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@TuNicaMami Easy to find used #Mac? surely the reduced aggravation is worth something. And no viruses. Hand ur old laptop down to a kidJun 10 15:42
oiaohmEach subsystem should have been basically isolated from each other and able to crash independantly.  Even running multiable of the same subsystem should have been possible. MinceRJun 10 15:42
oiaohmBasically NT design is one mother tough OS.Jun 10 15:42
Ziodotmatrixoiaohm: does that make the original NT similar to Apple's Copland, with the whole micro-kernal managing multiple subsystems?Jun 10 15:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Updated my Kindle to 2.5 which adds some neato features. http://amzn.to/ye6Ci \o/Jun 10 15:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@TuNicaMami alternatively, install #Linux on the laptop - no more freezes unless the hardware is actually faultyJun 10 15:43
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oiaohmZiodotmatrix: NT design is based off micro-kernel.   More of NT design is microkernel than monolitchic.Jun 10 15:43
MinceR"based off" earns no points. :>Jun 10 15:44
oiaohmMajor change is drivers and kernel being in the same memory space for speed.Jun 10 15:44
oiaohmOther than that NT was design to be a microkernel.Jun 10 15:44
MinceRtoo bad they didn't gain speed but lost stability and securityJun 10 15:45
oiaohmThey did gain the speed.Jun 10 15:45
Ziodotmatrixoiaohm: I'm just thinking about the NT project's original aim and how like Copland OS they failed many of their initial target points or it just took too long to implement properly.Jun 10 15:45
oiaohmNT early prototypes worked perfectly that is the issue here.Jun 10 15:46
oiaohmIts not like Copland that they never got the prototypes.Jun 10 15:46
oiaohmProblem is what stuffs NT is what happened when its master designer stopped being 100 percent responsable for its complete code base.Jun 10 15:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@whisper1111 you're on fire like a kuwaiti #oil well this morningJun 10 15:47
oiaohmBasically too many cooks in kitchen problem.  ZiodotmatrixJun 10 15:47
Ziodotmatrixoiaohm: it's interesting how that lady from National Robotics hired by Apple's former CEO to head Copland development scrapped it and just happened to pick NEXTStep and Jobs.Jun 10 15:47
Ziodotmatrixoiaohm: that's the same problem that screwed up Copland.Jun 10 15:48
oiaohmPrototype NT had 2 win32 subsystems running side by side without issues.Jun 10 15:49
oiaohmYou cannot do that today.Jun 10 15:49
MinceRso why did they fuck it up before the first release?Jun 10 15:50
oiaohmI guy was got to add a posix subsystem.  MinceRJun 10 15:50
oiaohmHe screwed it.Jun 10 15:50
oiaohmPart budget issue as well.Jun 10 15:51
MinceRwell, it shows how much they cared about POSIX complianceJun 10 15:51
MinceRthe only reason that pitiful excuse for POSIX compliance is there because government contractors required it but didn't really care about itJun 10 15:51
oiaohmYep POSIX compliance was the first step of rot.Jun 10 15:51
oiaohmThe the OS/2 subsystem added more.Jun 10 15:51
MinceRiirc they were extremely late with symlink support, for exampleJun 10 15:52
MinceReven though POSIX requires itJun 10 15:52
oiaohmNTFS has always supported it.Jun 10 15:52
oiaohmFirst version supported it.Jun 10 15:52
oiaohmproblem was Posix subsystem for some darn reason did not.Jun 10 15:52
MinceRlolJun 10 15:52
oiaohmyes clear signs of poor craftmanship.Jun 10 15:53
MinceRsuch signs are all over all m$ productsJun 10 15:53
oiaohmThis is why I say I have no issue with NT Design.Jun 10 15:54
oiaohmIts good.Jun 10 15:54
oiaohmThe implementation craftmanship makes you go why in hell was anyone mad enough todo that to such a perfect design leading to it being so flawed.Jun 10 15:54
oiaohmReally the only thing I can think of as bad is from Linux is the BKL.  Again it was a rushed job issue.Jun 10 15:55
MinceR:>Jun 10 15:55
oiaohmYou don't want anyone building a OS rushing the construction.Jun 10 15:55
oiaohmThat is if you want a secuire OS of course.Jun 10 15:56
MinceRor a robust one, or one that performs well, or one that's user-friendly, etc.Jun 10 15:56
oiaohmUser-friendly is a grey thing.Jun 10 15:57
oiaohmNo matter how much you try to work out what user friendly is you will not find it.Jun 10 15:58
oiaohmIf you want to find 100 percent not user friendly that is findable.Jun 10 15:58
MinceRthat depends on how you define user friendlyJun 10 15:59
oiaohmYep completely grey.Jun 10 15:59
oiaohmNo two humans define user friendly exactly the same.  MinceRJun 10 15:59
MinceRi'd define it as "understandable, learnable, introspectable, does what it is asked to do"Jun 10 15:59
MinceRincludes having usable documentationJun 10 16:00
oiaohmWhat is understandable and learnable to you may not be to others.Jun 10 16:00
MinceRno expectation of being "intuitive" as that's impossible.Jun 10 16:00
oiaohmAs I said grey.Jun 10 16:00
oiaohmEven intuitive is grey.Jun 10 16:00
MinceRoh, i'd also add "conforms to existing standards/conventions when it makes sense"Jun 10 16:00
oiaohmThose are all things that get you somewhere closed to userfriendly.Jun 10 16:01
oiaohm100 percent unfriendly is simple to define.   Basically a interface that does not actucally work at all.Jun 10 16:02
MinceR:>Jun 10 16:02
oiaohmYes it has buttons everything else but they are not really connect to anything so you can never ever get anywhere.Jun 10 16:02
MinceRindeed, not functional implies not user friendlyJun 10 16:03
MinceRcrApple likes being nonfunctionalJun 10 16:03
oiaohmYou argree 100 percent not userfriendly is simple to define.Jun 10 16:03
MinceRi guess soJun 10 16:03
oiaohmI still remember get up and point that out at a developer meeting.Jun 10 16:04
oiaohmwhere they were focusing on look yet has not finished off the back end code yet.Jun 10 16:04
oiaohmAll the userfriendly inteface bits are completely worth nothing in user friendlyness if it don't work.Jun 10 16:05
MinceR:>Jun 10 16:05
MinceRthey can still assume that they will implement it by the time of the releaseJun 10 16:06
MinceRand also tackle other userfriendliness issues until thenJun 10 16:06
oiaohmFirst rule of userfriendlyness everyone is that it works.Jun 10 16:06
MinceRnot for everyoneJun 10 16:07
oiaohmNothing is more time wasting user annoying then programs that look to be great but then don't work.Jun 10 16:07
MinceRcase in point: crApple cultistsJun 10 16:07
MinceReven m$ cultistsJun 10 16:07
oiaohmIt is still the first rule.Jun 10 16:07
oiaohmHow come MS can break it.Jun 10 16:07
oiaohmand Apple.Jun 10 16:07
MinceRbecause their consumers are stupidJun 10 16:08
oiaohmBecause people believe they have no other option bar to put up with the crappy userfriendlyness.Jun 10 16:08
oiaohmNot like Linux is perfect when you run the must work test either MinceRJun 10 16:08
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Apple's announced it's worst security breach, the iLeak - http://bit.ly/9aIBNx !appleJun 10 16:08
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oiaohmGet rule number 1 of userfriendly have happy users.Jun 10 16:09
MinceRnothing is even close to perfectJun 10 16:09
MinceRbut GNU/Linux still fails a lot less even on the desktopJun 10 16:09
oiaohmLot of Linux configuration tools are userfriendlyness traps.Jun 10 16:10
oiaohmIe the say they will work but under a lot of conditions they fail on the user leaving the user with a bad taste.   MinceRJun 10 16:10
oiaohmBasically if something does not work user is better off from userfriendlyness for it not to be there at all.Jun 10 16:11
oiaohmSo users don't get there hopes up.Jun 10 16:11
MinceRand so they use the UI that isn't nice but works instead of the one that looks nice but doesn't work :>Jun 10 16:12
oiaohmBlender vs lot of other 3d programs that have died is in that class.Jun 10 16:13
MinceRbblJun 10 16:13
oiaohmYou cannot call Blender old interface the goal of userfriendlyness.  It was goal of functional.Jun 10 16:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Thanks RT: @pratikone: @nsisodiya saw ur program on gyan darshan today. great job u r doing.keep it up.truely like an Open Source evangelistJun 10 16:20
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] watching "Coding for battery life" from Google I/O 2009. Really interesting speech for all !android devs out there http://bit.ly/95weO7Jun 10 16:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading to SELF. The lines at SFO were the worst I have ever seen. I made it to the gate though, so all good. :-)Jun 10 16:31
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Chris Blizzard on HTML5, Apple and Google - http://bit.ly/aIQqm5Jun 10 16:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Mind you, no time for coffee, so I plan on about 10 cups of the child's plasticine interpretation of coffee that Delta pump out.Jun 10 16:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] THE EFFECTS OF SOFTWARE PATENT POLICY ON THE MOTIVATION AND INNOVATION OF FREE AND OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS http://is.gd/cKfyQ #swpatJun 10 16:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Web 2.0 as drugs http://www.patrickmoberg.com/internet-vices/ So what's #wikipedia ?Jun 10 16:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@RiahLahren What's the difference between a verified account and a regular one? // Celebrity vs Non Celebrity. Right. It's nonsense.Jun 10 16:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise Don't be closed-minded. #Windows 7 is fantastic,crashes less than Mac //tell that to @TuNicaMami. #OSX is #UNIX. Nuf said.Jun 10 16:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@WesBEnterprise Don't be closed-minded. #Windows 7 is fantastic,crashes less than Mac // Macs don't crash. So comparison is strange...Jun 10 16:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] not 'closed minded' to shun #Windows, but pragmatic. If bad publicity forced attn to quality lately, still decades behind. & malware riddledJun 10 16:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise ever seen your #iPhone crash?Jun 10 16:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@wesbenterprise ever seen a virus on your #iPhone? #unixJun 10 16:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Ambition is a form of self-interest, self-enclosure, and therefore it breeds mediocrity of mind.' - #Krishnamurti #quotesJun 10 16:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@elsacorral Beck is the new Lee Harvey Oswald. Wait and see. :)Jun 10 17:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #AMD 'responsible party' for 3 #Superfund sites in Sunnyvale CA. "discovered hazardous material releases to the groundwater"Jun 10 17:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@OsborneInk Suddenly I understand the HuffPo formula. // come for the tabloid crap, stay for the op-eds? pls go onJun 10 17:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Wow! What do you do when str2 = strndup(str1, 8) returns a string with 8 NULLs instead of str1's first 8 characters?Jun 10 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@sarahw Stephenie Meyer's new book had strong opening sales // this is how we talk about PRODUCTS, not books. #justsayinJun 10 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Someone in the office is whistling The A-Team theme tune. This is odd.Jun 10 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] If I printf(str1) I see all I expected.Jun 10 17:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #AMD's annual report notes plainly that their dependence on #Microsoft certification & compatibility is a significant risk to their businessJun 10 17:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Any of my followers Buddhist? Speak up & I'll follow.Jun 10 17:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @viseshk @spymaami what nonsense is this? // follow'd!Jun 10 17:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/dgVyTr "Ubuntu Lucid Lynx: free OS that Just Works" -- Cory Doctorow. Nice.Jun 10 17:28
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Agent-SmithHi there folksJun 10 17:29
Agent-SmithGood afternoonJun 10 17:29
Agent-SmithIs Mr. Schestowitz around ???Jun 10 17:29
Agent-SmithRed Hat buying Novell, is this old news ???Jun 10 17:33
Agent-SmithHum ???Jun 10 17:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] IMG_0247 [pic] http://ff.im/lOhyDJun 10 17:35
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Agent-Smithhttp://www.muylinux.com/2010/06/04/%C2%BFcomprara-red-hat-a-novellJun 10 17:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @firusvg: RT @BoingBoing #Ubuntu #Lucid Lynx: free OS that Just Works http://bit.ly/boNPsSJun 10 17:46
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Agent-SmithWell, got to goJun 10 17:47
Agent-SmithI'll be back laterJun 10 17:47
Agent-SmithByeJun 10 17:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Aussiemandias It's too much about China. Bring on the Latin American century. I [heart] Brazil // if they don't screw it up like #ChinaJun 10 18:05
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DaemonFCDid anyone see the DMCAT&T story?Jun 10 18:31
DaemonFCabout how they leaked out 114,000 iTampon customers personal dataJun 10 18:31
DaemonFCincluding personal data belonging to the base commander of a B-1 tactical bomber squadron? :)Jun 10 18:31
DaemonFChttp://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/06/att_says_security_hole_exposed.htmlJun 10 18:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 Ellsberg: #Obama Decriminalized #Torture http://bit.ly/dnZMk5 //The Permanent Administration ratchets on. Obama just actorJun 10 18:37
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DaemonFCMinceR, Crapple and DMCAT&T use PGPL on their email I guessJun 10 18:38
DaemonFCPretty Guaranteed Privacy LeakJun 10 18:38
schestowitzre Firefox sabotage http://identi.ca/conversation/35473587#notice-35687886 "@schestowitz amazing how they can deliberately fuck with something and then say "it's not as good""Jun 10 18:43
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schestowitzre agent smith, the bastard from the Register spread her BSJun 10 18:45
schestowitzKellyJun 10 18:45
schestowitzI already wrote about thatJun 10 18:45
schestowitzStupid Microsoft boostersJun 10 18:45
DaemonFCDaemonFC> your data is as inconspicuous as a 21 piece brass marching band if you use Crapple and DMCAT&TJun 10 18:57
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> they've proven thisJun 10 18:57
DaemonFCheheJun 10 18:57
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Checking out Gramps because I don't trust Ancestry.comJun 10 19:03
DaemonFChttp://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/06/sega-bringing-dreamcast-library-to-ps3-xbox-360/1Jun 10 19:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Kellbo0 just heard on The View that Katy Perry and Lady Gaga are having a @twitter war. Neither 1 of those bitches better mess with me.Jun 10 19:05
DaemonFCSega Does what Nintendon't. (Go bankrupt and whore out their old games and send DMCA take-down demands over titles that debuted in 1988)Jun 10 19:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@torontoist I just did that too! returnd to beautiful summery #Toronto after 3 chilly months in southern hemisphere homeland. vive #GleebaxJun 10 19:06
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/safari-5-tested-chrome-opera-still-have-javascript-edge.arsJun 10 19:08
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DaemonFCCrapple does better on test suites made by Crapple to show off Crapple products on Crapple OSJun 10 19:08
DaemonFCB-)Jun 10 19:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Online at 30,000ft. I dig it.Jun 10 19:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @jonobacon That's no parachute, it's C-4 They're planning to drop you on Red Hat HQ as a last ditch effort to compete Get out while you can!Jun 10 19:11
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 19:11
DaemonFC"Put that in your community and smoke it!"Jun 10 19:12
DaemonFC:DJun 10 19:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @torontoist 'In a city as diverse as #Toronto, choosing a single country to root for can seem daunting' #WorldCupJun 10 19:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] David Futcher is rocking Project Cleansweep - add the button to your website! http://bit.ly/a7Uvno #ubuntuJun 10 19:16
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DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20007206-71.htmlJun 10 19:20
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DaemonFCniceJun 10 19:20
DaemonFCThe group's Web site offers that its members--two of whom are seen in this footage, walking away, dressed in hoodies (they work at Facebook?)--are "dudes who like porn." As if there were really any other kind. Jun 10 19:22
DaemonFCheheJun 10 19:22
DaemonFCschestowitzJun 10 19:25
DaemonFC Get top-ranked Novell support for Red Hat when you switchJun 10 19:25
DaemonFCTechRepublic - ‎1 hour ago‎Jun 10 19:25
DaemonFCOverview: If Linux is going to power your mission-critical applications, you'd better have the best support known to business. Novell provides unparalleled ... Jun 10 19:25
DaemonFCGoogle NewsJun 10 19:25
schestowitzHold onJun 10 19:25
schestowitzYes, I know about thatJun 10 19:25
DaemonFChttp://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=linuxJun 10 19:25
schestowitzSince last yearJun 10 19:25
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/18/techrepublic-propaganda/Jun 10 19:26
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schestowitzDaemonFC: find out what Novell negotiatesJun 10 19:27
schestowitzIf you canJun 10 19:27
schestowitzMaybe you know someone who works in Novell or knows someone who knows someone..Jun 10 19:27
schestowitzWHen Novell is sold to the ashtray we'll celebrateJun 10 19:27
DaemonFCBLOCKED  Jun 10 19:28
DaemonFCThis is Privoxy 3.0.16 on localhost (127.0.0.1), port 8118, enabledJun 10 19:28
DaemonFCRequest for blocked URLJun 10 19:28
DaemonFCYour request for http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/11830-80528-1915-0?ag=Red+Hat was blocked.Jun 10 19:28
DaemonFCBlock reason: Path matches generic block pattern.Jun 10 19:28
DaemonFCSee why this block applies or go there anyway. Jun 10 19:28
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DaemonFCheheJun 10 19:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, The nice thing about Privoxy is that you can put it on your routerJun 10 19:29
DaemonFCand filter anything that accesses the internet before it reaches the device B-)Jun 10 19:29
DaemonFCschestowitz, it routes you through a few ad servers actuallyJun 10 19:31
DaemonFCwhich all try to set flash cookiesJun 10 19:31
DaemonFCthen dumps you here: http://www.novell.com/linux/promo/expanded_support.htmlJun 10 19:31
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DaemonFC:)Jun 10 19:31
DaemonFCWe're cheap. We're REALLY cheap. In fact, we're so cheap that we're not going to tell you about our quality of service because we're REALLY FUCKING CHEAP. :DJun 10 19:33
DaemonFCOh you want to know about our service? Some outfit we paid said we're good.Jun 10 19:34
DaemonFCWe have a note from our mother, Steve BallmerJun 10 19:34
DaemonFCit says we interoperate well with othersJun 10 19:34
DaemonFCWhat happened to your server? The dog ate it.Jun 10 19:35
DaemonFConly a cat can wonder why you kicked it to make it stop biting your legJun 10 19:42
DaemonFCit will look at you like you're the asshole that started it :PJun 10 19:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Iron Maiden release a song from their forthcoming album - http://bit.ly/9pbWdS - not heard it as I am on this damn plane.Jun 10 19:43
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DaemonFCthis from the same animal that thinks it's a good idea to throw itself down in front of you while you're half-asleep and on your way back from the bathroom in the middle of the nightJun 10 19:44
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 19:44
schestowitzRed Hat works equally well and betterJun 10 19:44
schestowitzNovell has a note from mom as you sayJun 10 19:44
schestowitzBut..Jun 10 19:44
schestowitzAD and other stuff might be an excewptionJun 10 19:44
schestowitzIt's for Fortune 100 companies that fear being sued by MicrosoftJun 10 19:45
schestowitzNovell and Microsoft tell them to buy SLE*Jun 10 19:45
schestowitzTwo parasitesJun 10 19:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am also seeing them live in a few weeks. I can't wait to bathe in the wonder and unparalleled perfect of a live Iron Maiden performance.Jun 10 19:45
schestowitzIBM condoning from afarJun 10 19:45
DaemonFCschestowitz, OpenSuse is bloated and has bad setup toolsJun 10 19:45
DaemonFCif SLE is anything like that, I fail to see why anyone would want itJun 10 19:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] But it's South Africa! How could one not expect the tourist attraction of being robbed? Wondering when rape will start showing up...Jun 10 19:46
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Cwc7gUVbwJun 10 19:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Did not read empirical evidence but first half is an interesting read. Wrong question though. Worrying about software patents affectingJun 10 19:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] motivation is a little like worrying how a shotgun blast will affect your hearing. #swpat http://is.gd/cKfyQJun 10 19:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Inhofe: Fiorina ‘is supporting’ my push to gut the Clean Air Act, agrees climate change is a ‘hoax’ - http://bit.ly/bEYunx says it allJun 10 19:55
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DaemonFCCarly Fiorina is a Teabagger, naturallyJun 10 19:55
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DaemonFCshe's got so darned much business sense that she single-handedly destroyed HP and CompaqJun 10 19:56
DaemonFCwhy not send her to the US SenateJun 10 19:56
DaemonFCthanks California!Jun 10 19:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] #mumbuntu ION based machine sometimes boots in 800x600,sometimes 1024x768.Popped round and forced it to 1024 in xorg.conf. Fingers crossed.Jun 10 19:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Memo From Dell: Ubuntu Linux Is Safer Than Windows - http://bit.ly/ccW8La grab a screenshot before it gets "disappeared" #dell #ubuntuJun 10 20:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bah, Virgin phone line dead at home. Called customer service, got straight through to a human (after they keypad dance) which is nice.Jun 10 20:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Before we had cell phones we used to walk to the phone box to log faults with the line at home. Those were the days.Jun 10 20:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The EU Patent and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - TFEU - http://bit.ly/aysveT big: could this kill the EU patent? #euJun 10 20:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Btw, at #SELinuxfest my keynote is 8am on Sat, talking opp developers, and also have #severedfifth t-shirts and stickers :-) #ubuntuJun 10 20:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just remembered, hair dresser arriving shortly, so my usual evening activity of kicking off trousers and loafing will be postponed!Jun 10 20:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] New Feudalism http://2tu.us/27nlJun 10 20:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Memo From #Dell: #Ubuntu Linux Is Safer Than Windows - http://bit.ly/ccW8La grab a screenshot before it gets "disappeared"Jun 10 20:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Summary of recent #severedfifth updates - http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/06/10/severed-fifth-updates-2/Jun 10 20:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Jolly interesting seeing all the once-Liberals going Con-Dem native re: university fees. All have their degrees already, I believe.Jun 10 20:52
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DaemonFCyay, raining AND 90 degrees tomorrowJun 10 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Bill Moyers signs off his last broadcast with an editorial discussion on why plutocracy and democracy don't mix." http://ur1.ca/06paiJun 10 21:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @jwz Paging Dr. Strangelove: http://jwz.livejournal.com/1247381.html - strangely compellingJun 10 21:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Lessons from One Laptop Per Child - http://bit.ly/bgT7kh what a wonderful pic on that page #olpc #peruJun 10 22:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] By eck it is warm in Atlanta. Between the plane and the gate I walked through a very small oven it seems.Jun 10 22:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Lawyers Warn WordPress Over File-Sharing News Blog - http://bit.ly/c9ll8R this is an unwinnable war, lawyer people...Jun 10 22:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Stewart Rules: Novell Wins! CASE CLOSED! - http://bit.ly/8XZHs2 but will SCO get the message? I doubt it...#sco #novellJun 10 22:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The 2010 Mozilla T-shirt is here! - http://bit.ly/c5zxNn there: your fashion dilemma is solved #mozillaJun 10 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @glynmoody: Lessons from One Laptop Per Child - http://bit.ly/bgT7kh what a wonderful pic on that page #olpc #peruJun 10 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On my way home. Apparently have a fish and chip supper waiting..Jun 10 22:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Lawyers Warn WordPress Over File-Sharing News Blog - http://bit.ly/c9ll8R this is an unwinnable war, lawyer people...Jun 10 22:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] So who’s really behind the anti-BP hysteria in the US? - http://bit.ly/c8cuKx nasty, *very* nasty... #bpJun 10 22:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody Stewart Rules: Novell Wins! CASE CLOSED! - http://bit.ly/8XZHs2 but will SCO get the message? I doubt it...#sco #novellJun 10 22:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Top Public School Signs Multi-Million Dollar Deal To Copyright & Sell Its Curriculum - http://bit.ly/c43Hkj turning knowledge into propertyJun 10 22:22
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MinceRgnJun 10 22:37
schestowitzso soon, eh?Jun 10 22:38
MinceRnot soon enoughJun 10 22:39
MinceRmust sleepJun 10 22:39
schestowitzYou'll wake up to darknessJun 10 22:39
MinceRhardlyJun 10 22:39
cubezzzeh?Jun 10 22:43
cubezzzthey're still going on about SCO?Jun 10 22:43
cubezzzthe history of unix is interesting thoughJun 10 22:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] FFII workshop at #LinuxTag on current developments in software patents, open standards and other topics: http://bit.ly/aoj39mJun 10 22:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] It’s Final: #Novell Owns #UNIX . Now, Who Will Buy Novell With UNIX? http://ur1.ca/06pqv #sco #copyright #ibmJun 10 22:47
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cubezzzOracle might just buy NovellJun 10 22:47
cubezzzor Microsoft, brrrrJun 10 22:49
cubezzzsome other scenarios:Jun 10 22:52
cubezzzhttp://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7737/1.htmlJun 10 22:52
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @robmyers: ♺ @carlg: Ars : SCOwned: no new trial, Novell can shut down IBM lawsuit !linux !foss !gnu http://ur1.ca/06plj LOL SCOwnedJun 10 22:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ♺ @WorksWithU: Dell Says Ubuntu Is Safer Than Windows http://bit.ly/dh3sP6Jun 10 22:56
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cubezzzwell the future of foss looks brightJun 10 22:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://is.gd/cKDB7 Haha, Dell, I love under Ubuntu - Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware it says "Unwarranted". Great. :)Jun 10 22:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Seems the whole of the OSX running world are downloading TF2 for OSX via Steam. Wonder what would happen if/when Steam for Linux happens.Jun 10 22:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Deleting a mail before I send it. Golly some people can be so rude. Time to go and wash my hair and let other more calm people deal with it.Jun 10 23:05
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cubezzzwhat is "callback" mean in the context of nmap?Jun 10 23:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] RT @royalselangor: The @MarthaStewart visit at @royalselangor - http://bit.ly/ccWu6J (via @whackowilson)Jun 10 23:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Hey @ditesh, I was at 667, then dropped down to 665, now thanks to @boycottnovel back at 666 followers. MuahahahaaaJun 10 23:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] What's coming up in the next #elmdentica release for your #freerunner: http://is.gd/cKGiA http://is.gd/cKGkpJun 10 23:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] How much safer? RT @jdub: #Dell's list of things you should know: "6) Ubuntu is safer than Microsoft® Windows®" http://www.dell.com/ubuntuJun 10 23:43
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/judge-may-dismiss-4576-of-4577-p2p-defendants-from-lawsuit.arsJun 10 23:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Effects of SWP Policy on the Motivation and Innovation of Free/Libre and Open Source Developers http://ur1.ca/06q3h #thesis #swpatsJun 10 23:50
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yuhong"And well, Kimball already ruled that this contract cannot be voided on July 16, 2008 when he ruled against SCO. Unfortunately, many news sources that covered this ruling did not seem to have read the entire judgement, even though it said it very clearly. "Jun 10 23:55
yuhonghttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/scowned-no-new-trial-novell-can-shut-down-ibm-lawsuit.ars?comments=1&p=20499498#comment-20499498Jun 10 23:55
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yuhongThe ruling BTW is here: http://www.sco.com/scoip/lawsuits/novell_appeal/2008-07-16%20Order%20and%20Judgment.pdfJun 10 23:55
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yuhongEven schestowitz posted this: http://fixunix.com/linux/510401-news-opensolaris-iffy-legal-grounds.htmlJun 10 23:56
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yuhongschestowitz: Were you one of them?Jun 10 23:56
schestowitzyuhong: hold on, pleaseJun 10 23:56
*DaemonFC smacks yuhong with SCO OpenServer Hyper-V EditionJun 10 23:57
DaemonFC:PJun 10 23:57
yuhongHopefully you are reading the entire ruling.Jun 10 23:57
yuhongAs the failure to do that is what I am referring to.Jun 10 23:59

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