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| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, sex offenders track YOU!! | Jun 12 00:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz I will vote for any alternative without hate in it. | Jun 12 00:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay, looks like the kernel people have come up with a patch to make Linux work on the new 13" MacBook Pro. 7,1 Huzzah! http://bit.ly/clRxQy | Jun 12 00:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Great stuff.....Although when is the inside of the Tardis going to actually look like the old Tardis...? White walls...retro. | Jun 12 00:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Perto de Alcongosta para a Festa da Cereja... viva as pens 3G | Jun 12 00:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Bug 15923 – SATA doesn't work on MCP89 chipset .::. Size~: 43.3 KB | Jun 12 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/an-open-door-is-an-invitation-why-the-fbi-should-investigate-crapple-and-dmcatt-and-leave-the-thieves-alone/ | Jun 12 00:11 |
| Techrights | Title: An open door is an invitation. Why the FBI should investigate Crapple and DMCAT&T and leave the thieves alone. « Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 49.34 KB | Jun 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 00:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME 2.31.3 is Out, Decisions Made for GNOME 3.0 http://ur1.ca/06yqz http://ur1.ca/06yr3 http://ur1.ca/06yr7 | Jun 12 00:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNOME Journal is Released http://ur1.ca/06yr0 http://ur1.ca/06yr2 http://ur1.ca/06yr5 http://ur1.ca/06yr6 | Jun 12 00:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: New module decisions for GNOME 3.0 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.22 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: The Linux Experience: GnoMenu: A nice new menu for Gnome .::. Size~: 65.35 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: The GNOME Journal: PHP-GTK, Widgets & Gadgets: An Interview With Elizabeth Smith .::. Size~: 15.14 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: The GNOME Journal: Time's Making Changes - A Letter from the Editor .::. Size~: 6.98 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: The GNOME Journal: Interview with Quim Gil of the GNOME Advisory Board .::. Size~: 11.17 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| Techrights | Title: The GNOME Journal: Shotwell Photo Manager .::. Size~: 13.05 KB | Jun 12 00:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Soda from the future [img]: http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1212_signs.jpg | Jun 12 00:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Canadian #MAFIAA celebrates its lobbying for broken copyright law. http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20100607.html | Jun 12 00:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: IFPI reacts to publication of draft Canadian Copyright Amendment Bill .::. Size~: 7.69 KB | Jun 12 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | edited to add: "That’s it? Most insurance companies won’t pay you back for stolen items if you left your car unlocked. We’re left to believe that an attack that took less than 5 minutes and didn’t require a password made the “attackers” deserve to be prosecuted? I don’t think so. Someone please sue Apple and AT&T. I’m begging you!" | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/11/64_bit_flash_for_linux_dead/ | Jun 12 00:27 |
| Techrights | Title: Adobe euthanizes Flash 10.1 for 64-bit Linux • The Register .::. Size~: 31.74 KB | Jun 12 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/article_21b2de10-8684-5290-a22a-453d8306fe4d.html | Jun 12 00:29 |
| Techrights | Title: Judge rules in favor of WIAA in webcasting of sports events .::. Size~: 51.23 KB | Jun 12 00:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: flash id dying | Jun 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | All hail Silverlight!!! | Jun 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | Hail Ballmer! | Jun 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | Hail Vista! | Jun 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | Hail!!!!! | Jun 12 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Jun 12 00:30 |
| *schestowitz throws a wet sock @ ryan | Jun 12 00:30 | |
| *DaemonFC throws a sweaty Ballmer polo shirt at schestowitz | Jun 12 00:32 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 00:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo Demonstrated With Cube Effect Demo, Gets Thanks http://ur1.ca/06yti http://ur1.ca/06ytj http://ur1.ca/06ytk | Jun 12 00:32 | |
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| *DaemonFC rewrites tehcrights in XAML | Jun 12 00:33 | |
| *DaemonFC hangs out the Get Moonlight! button | Jun 12 00:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon #GNU #Linux Linux Now Incorporates #Anaconda http://ur1.ca/06yth | Jun 12 00:33 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sabayon Linux 5.3 adds new installer - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.57 KB | Jun 12 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | What the hell is wrong with Adobe, seriously | Jun 12 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | even Moonlight is natively 64-bit | Jun 12 00:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] I should compose a rap about "sittin' in the hot row" and film the video at the datacenter. Geeksta girls go nuts for that kind of thing. | Jun 12 00:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, very little done today due to work...Got some nice articles coming up..My free resources page is almost done and have another request | Jun 12 01:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Are there ANY sites of note that use #Silverlight if you know,please share.Since it was dumped by ITV Ive seen very little of it. #microsoft | Jun 12 01:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Or was it Channel 4? or both? | Jun 12 01:23 | |
| cubezzz | still can't find dos laplink | Jun 12 01:27 |
| cubezzz | laplink gold only works on XP | Jun 12 01:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Sei d'alguns... ♺ @der_terrorist: Agora são os que não fazem a ponta de um corno sempre a dizer que temos de trabalhar mais. Santa pacência! | Jun 12 01:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin Don't ask me for a link can't find it. I was looking for linuxtag microsoft keynote found 1 it said install silverlight exit stage | Jun 12 01:27 | |
| cubezzz | I need something that works on win95 | Jun 12 01:27 |
| cubezzz | pity that I had to work on doze today | Jun 12 01:31 |
| cubezzz | but work is work | Jun 12 01:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Watching 1997 film virus based nonsense. personal perspective 2 years after I downloaded a line by line photo to uni kit. #confused still | Jun 12 01:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera It would seem that #silverlight has not really had the adoption #microsoft wanted. Although if anyone wants to correct me.... | Jun 12 01:55 | |
| cubezzz | oh yet another reason windows is bad... | Jun 12 02:12 |
| cubezzz | legacy communicaton between different versions of linux is easier than different versions of windows | Jun 12 02:12 |
| cubezzz | and you have no clue why windows doesn't work | Jun 12 02:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @mkapor: Apple's ban of AdMob will only help Android http://tcrn.ch/cOjyMg | Jun 12 02:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Exit To Nowhere: The Conundrum Of Being An Independent Mobile Ad Network Under Apples Rules .::. Size~: 93.67 KB | Jun 12 02:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @novell: Novell comments on recent Final Judgment in #SCO case: http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2648 #Linux #UNIX | Jun 12 02:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » United States District Court Judge Issues Final Judgment Confirming Novell Ownership of UNIX Copyrights and Denying Other SCO Claims .::. Size~: 59.78 KB | Jun 12 02:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Thx tons to @novell for defeating Microsoft's proxy, SCO, at trial http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2648 #Linux #UNIX | Jun 12 02:33 | |
| Techrights | Title: NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » United States District Court Judge Issues Final Judgment Confirming Novell Ownership of UNIX Copyrights and Denying Other SCO Claims .::. Size~: 59.78 KB | Jun 12 02:33 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/gallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=358 | Jun 12 03:50 |
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| cubezzz | parking a hummer in a compact spot? | Jun 12 03:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] RT @glynmoody: The Rise And Fall Of The RIAA - http://bit.ly/9fLIDE just the facts (and graphs) #music | Jun 12 04:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: The Rise And Fall Of The RIAA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 86.77 KB | Jun 12 04:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "Food Inc" was a good film. DNA Patents are far more evil than software patents. "Monsanto is the Microsoft of food" | Jun 12 04:12 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Just back from bed. Was playing with livecd-creator till 3 o'clock :-) | Jun 12 05:59 | |
| WireWulf | cubezzz parking a hummer in any spot? | Jun 12 06:00 |
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| cubezzz | Wirewulf, I think Hummer is history anyways | Jun 12 06:05 |
| cubezzz | the Last Hummer H3 rolled off line at Shreveport on 24 May 2010 | Jun 12 06:06 |
| cubezzz | 14 mpg | Jun 12 06:08 |
| cubezzz | a silly vechicle for the city | Jun 12 06:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review if the Newly-Released #PCLinuxOS 2010 With #GNOME http://ur1.ca/0708y Other New Releases http://ur1.ca/07090 | Jun 12 07:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: Review: PCLinuxOS 2010 Gnome With Screenshots - Tech .::. Size~: 64.39 KB | Jun 12 07:03 |
| Techrights | Title: Softpedia Linux Weekly, Issue 100 - The weekly roundup for Linux users - Softpedia .::. Size~: 78.82 KB | Jun 12 07:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Celebrates Another New Win http://ur1.ca/0708z http://ur1.ca/07091 http://ur1.ca/07092 | Jun 12 07:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: Dutch Hosting Provider Oxilion Launches Public Cloud Service Based on Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 70.34 KB | Jun 12 07:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Red Hat notches up another KVM cloud win • The Register .::. Size~: 37.75 KB | Jun 12 07:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Exar Announces Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.5 In-Box Support for X3100 Family with... -- FREMONT, Calif., June 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- .::. Size~: 48.98 KB | Jun 12 07:04 |
| schestowitz | "They should update their graphics, correcting the mispelled "fee" for Photo Editing in Ubuntu [...] and add "limited support" to Windows Peripheral Support also because its not better than Linux'." http://identi.ca/conversation/35599214#notice-35832957 | Jun 12 07:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.94 KB | Jun 12 07:07 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-human-editors-start-creeping-into-google-news/ | Jun 12 07:16 |
| Techrights | Title: Human (!) Editors Start Creeping Into Google News| paidContent .::. Size~: 30.36 KB | Jun 12 07:16 |
| schestowitz | re sco case: "Ray.. Come on.. Who's going to fund another case?? Law suits cost money you know. Why don't you just see this as something good" http://twitter.com/alesaux/status/15976907853 | Jun 12 07:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Twitter / Aaron Le Saux: @schestowitz Ray.. Come on ... .::. Size~: 8.25 KB | Jun 12 07:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rolling Out a #Fedora Remix, Sugar on a Stick as a Fedora Spin http://ur1.ca/070b5 http://ur1.ca/070b7 | Jun 12 07:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Received Good Reviews, New Contributor Agreement http://ur1.ca/070b4 http://ur1.ca/070b6 http://ur1.ca/070b8 | Jun 12 07:20 | |
| Techrights | Title: Roll Out a Fedora Remix LINUX For You Magazine .::. Size~: 80.85 KB | Jun 12 07:20 |
| Techrights | Title: The correlation of Mirabelles and sustainability | opensource.com .::. Size~: 40.95 KB | Jun 12 07:20 |
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| Techrights | Title: Why Im still using Fedora 13 « Celettus Weblog .::. Size~: 29.88 KB | Jun 12 07:20 |
| Techrights | Title: A new contributor agreement for Fedora | opensource.com .::. Size~: 41.94 KB | Jun 12 07:20 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I am no KDE user. I am preparing a !KDE remix of Fedora for upcoming Tamil conference , suggest me some good KDE apps to include in the DVD. | Jun 12 07:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Debian Community Poll Debian, How Debian Deals With Packages (Better Than Windows) http://ur1.ca/070cl http://ur1.ca/070cm | Jun 12 07:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Function in #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux is Reviewed, Cert Programme Renewed http://ur1.ca/070cn http://ur1.ca/070co http://ur1.ca/070cp | Jun 12 07:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Will Be Able to Restore Applications and Settings - Synchronized and stored in Ubuntu One - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.69 KB | Jun 12 07:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical Renews the Ubuntu Certification Programme .::. Size~: 34.47 KB | Jun 12 07:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The MSBBC Interviews Mark Shuttleworth, Canonical Survey Shows #GNU #Linux Rising in the UK http://ur1.ca/070e3 http://ur1.ca/06lvi | Jun 12 07:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Deeper Look at #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.10 http://ur1.ca/070e4 http://ur1.ca/070e6 http://ur1.ca/070e8 http://ur1.ca/070ea | Jun 12 07:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: BBC - BBC World Service Programmes - Digital Planet, 08/06/2010 .::. Size~: 20.37 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Ubuntu Growing Enormously In The Corporate UK | Muktware .::. Size~: 20.7 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Maverick Software centre adds animated apps bar | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 73.73 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Aptitude Removed From Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 62.68 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Announcing the User Experience Advocates Project < The Plenitude of Arboreal Beauty .::. Size~: 43.27 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| Techrights | Title: 5 new things can happen in Ubuntu 10.10 | LinuxTree .::. Size~: 72.82 KB | Jun 12 07:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Netbook Remix Definitely Replaces #Firefox With #Chromium http://ur1.ca/070ff http://ur1.ca/070fg | Jun 12 07:56 | |
| Techrights | Title: Chromium to be default browser for Ubuntu 10.10 UNR : Tectonic - The Source for Open Source News .::. Size~: 28.98 KB | Jun 12 07:56 |
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| schestowitz | !Ubuntu Netbook Remix Definitely Replaces #Firefox With #Chromium | Jun 12 07:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tectonic.co.za/2010/06/chromium-to-be-default-browser-for-ubuntu-10-10-unr/ | Jun 12 07:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Chromium to be default browser for Ubuntu 10.10 UNR : Tectonic - The Source for Open Source News .::. Size~: 28.98 KB | Jun 12 07:57 |
| schestowitz | http://cristalinux.blogspot.com/2010/06/chromium-to-become-default-web-browser.html | Jun 12 07:57 |
| Techrights | Title: The Linux Experience: Chromium default Browser for UNE 10.10 .::. Size~: 71.59 KB | Jun 12 07:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux is an "OS that Just Works", But Nothing is 100% Perfect http://ur1.ca/070fh http://ur1.ca/070fi http://ur1.ca/070fj | Jun 12 07:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://bagnohax.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/why-does-gentoo-suck-balls/ | Jun 12 07:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Why does gentoo suck balls? « Yuuki's Blog .::. Size~: 21.81 KB | Jun 12 07:57 |
| schestowitz | :-/ | Jun 12 07:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft AstroTurfers like to promote BSD: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/06/im-a-bsd.html | Jun 12 08:02 |
| Techrights | Title: I'm a BSD - O'Reilly Broadcast .::. Size~: 54.94 KB | Jun 12 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Rick Jelliffe is a real SOB, given what he's doing for Microsoft, for self gain | Jun 12 08:02 |
| cubezzz | who is Rick Jelliffe? | Jun 12 08:05 |
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| WireWulf | #theoildrum offical channel on BP's and the USA's gulf oil failure | Jun 12 08:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/11/ecis_withdraws_server_eu_complaint/ | Jun 12 08:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft legal foes withdraw EU complaint • The Register .::. Size~: 30.96 KB | Jun 12 08:07 |
| schestowitz | by MPAA|RIAA booster Andrew Orlowski | Jun 12 08:07 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: it's a site too | Jun 12 08:08 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz i been living on the site for the pass wail | Jun 12 08:09 |
| WireWulf | i live in effected lands (wail the northeren part) but still it effects the whole state | Jun 12 08:10 |
| cubezzz | ok, I'm not seeing the evil here | Jun 12 08:10 |
| cubezzz | seems like a positive article about FreeBSD | Jun 12 08:10 |
| cubezzz | on the other hand... | Jun 12 08:13 |
| cubezzz | "Microsoft was ranked the 2nd worst company for the environment out of 18 companies rated in Greenpeace's Greener Electronics guide in June, 2008. It received a score of 2.2/10" | Jun 12 08:13 |
| cubezzz | I wonder who the best was | Jun 12 08:13 |
| cubezzz | well I guess you mean the wiki job | Jun 12 08:14 |
| cubezzz | anyway, no Linux/BSD flame wars for me :) | Jun 12 08:15 |
| cubezzz | Nokia was number one green electronics company | Jun 12 08:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/198531/why_google_backed_down_on_home_page_backgrounds.html | Jun 12 08:19 |
| Techrights | Title: Why Google Backed Down on Home Page Backgrounds - PCWorld .::. Size~: 74.76 KB | Jun 12 08:19 |
| schestowitz | They should make it a greasemonkey plugin instead | Jun 12 08:19 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: no bsd war | Jun 12 08:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm just saying, Microsoft wants people to avoid GPL | Jun 12 08:20 |
| cubezzz | oh that | Jun 12 08:20 |
| cubezzz | yeah that's true | Jun 12 08:20 |
| cubezzz | the GPL is probably why I'm a Linux person and not a BSD person | Jun 12 08:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] FFII workshop about software patents and open standards starting at 10 at #linuxtag room new york 2! | Jun 12 08:24 | |
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| sebsebseb | Nice list of fixed bugs :) http://wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/wine-release/wine-12-rc3-released.html | Jun 12 08:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/10/AR2010061002499.html?nav=hcmodule | Jun 12 08:40 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: thanks for the link | Jun 12 08:41 |
| zoobab | pong | Jun 12 08:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nokia/Intel's #MeeGo Gains Momentum http://ur1.ca/070lq http://ur1.ca/070lu http://ur1.ca/070lv | Jun 12 08:42 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: np, going to use it for something? got on to it from linuxtoday | Jun 12 08:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve Kroes spoke loud and clear at #OFESummit: Open Standards, interoperability, collaboration, freedom of choice is the future | Jun 12 08:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Foot and mouth disease RT @aidyadnan: RT @nytimes: Disease Threatens Japan’s Trade in Prime Beef http://nyti.ms/9TOJ6S | Jun 12 08:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: Disease Threatens Japan’s Trade in Prime Beef - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 73.82 KB | Jun 12 08:44 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, daily links | Jun 12 08:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux -powered Fridge, #BeagleBoard Upgrade, Teleca on Board http://ur1.ca/06k62 http://ur1.ca/070lp http://ur1.ca/070lr | Jun 12 08:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nexus One, Nokia X6 coming to South Korea in June http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/05/31/nexus-one-nokia-x6-coming-to-south-korea-in-june/ | Jun 12 09:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: Nexus One, Nokia X6 coming to South Korea in June -- Engadget Mobile .::. Size~: 124.93 KB | Jun 12 09:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Phones Now Going for $100, Beating #Apple http://ur1.ca/070ur http://ur1.ca/070us http://ur1.ca/070ut | Jun 12 09:25 | |
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| schestowitz | "I want to nominate @schestowitz for the most informative tweets ever. Is there a Hard-working-twitteerer prize? there should be." http://twitter.com/fcassia/status/15986392965 | Jun 12 09:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Engadget Takes a Look at Linux/Android Phone/Tablet, Tests With Oscilloscope on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/07110 http://ur1.ca/07112 | Jun 12 09:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #GNU #Linux Distributions for Sub-notebooks, Update on #OLPC http://ur1.ca/07111 http://ur1.ca/07113 | Jun 12 09:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: Engadget's Dell Streak review, is it more appealing than the HTC EVO 4G? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 132.97 KB | Jun 12 09:43 |
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| Techrights | Title: Roundup of Linux distributions that play (mostly) well with the HP 2133 .::. Size~: 23.89 KB | Jun 12 09:43 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Is Intellectual Property Itself Unethical? - http://bit.ly/aFZHlO you can probably guess my response... #intellectualmonopolies | Jun 12 09:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM and #Intel Fight Over #Linux on #Tablets and Other Mobile Devices http://ur1.ca/0715w http://ur1.ca/0715y | Jun 12 09:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets with #Linux Spread, Canonical Joins http://ur1.ca/06m51 http://ur1.ca/0715v http://ur1.ca/0715x http://ur1.ca/07160 | Jun 12 09:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Looking Back at SCO (What did it all Mean?) - http://bit.ly/aKNG4Y excellent summary #sco #unix #linux | Jun 12 09:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Looking Back at SCO (What did it all Mean?) - ConsortiumInfo.org .::. Size~: 36.1 KB | Jun 12 09:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What Should One Make of VMware’s Shopping Spree? - http://bit.ly/90qQNk list of moves by company that is neither fish nor fowl #vmware | Jun 12 10:03 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vFghRU_byc | Jun 12 10:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody they might buy Novell | Jun 12 10:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz yes, that's certainly a possibility | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OSI Committee Chairs Election, 2020 #FLOSS Roadmap http://opensource.org/node/526 http://www.2020flossroadmap.org/ | Jun 12 10:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Does With #Linux What #Apple Failed to Do, Goes Beyond Phones http://ur1.ca/071e0 http://ur1.ca/071e1 http://ur1.ca/071e4 | Jun 12 10:15 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Linux-powered iPad-like tablets can't come quickly enough - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 68.54 KB | Jun 12 10:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] New plans to open up UK resources revealed - http://bit.ly/b3fBxE libraries, archives and museums to share #metadata | Jun 12 10:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Kant Studies Online - http://bit.ly/a78a9V open access journal about my fave philosopher; pity it won't be out for ages #oa #kant | Jun 12 10:19 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVuxgSxFFE&NR=1 | Jun 12 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPT1uX3chEY&NR=1 | Jun 12 10:36 |
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| oiaohm | Ok this shows how long since I had to update clock. I tried using rdate that does not work anymore. | Jun 12 10:40 |
| cubezzz | ntpd | Jun 12 10:42 |
| cubezzz | or rdate maybe | Jun 12 10:42 |
| oiaohm | ntpdate | Jun 12 10:43 |
| oiaohm | works these days. | Jun 12 10:43 |
| oiaohm | Most ntp servers refuse to answer rdate any more cubezzz | Jun 12 10:43 |
| oiaohm | I guess you would be caught out too. | Jun 12 10:44 |
| cubezzz | well i just run ntpd | Jun 12 10:44 |
| cubezzz | it works | Jun 12 10:44 |
| oiaohm | ntpd uses ntpdate | Jun 12 10:44 |
| cubezzz | ah well then :) | Jun 12 10:44 |
| oiaohm | This computer is due for its 1 in 5 years battery again. | Jun 12 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Yep its a ten year old machine. | Jun 12 10:46 |
| cubezzz | I need a way to resize a partition in old linux | Jun 12 10:46 |
| cubezzz | 2.2 era | Jun 12 10:46 |
| cubezzz | 17 years old :) | Jun 12 10:46 |
| cubezzz | well the system is 17 years, but the linux is ummm about 11 years old | Jun 12 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | This OS clean install is 3 years old than the hardware | Jun 12 10:51 |
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| oiaohm | Debian is kinda long lasting. | Jun 12 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Its seen harddrives and motherboards out. | Jun 12 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zL23766IWI&feature=related | Jun 12 10:54 |
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| cubezzz | there's sfdisk | Jun 12 11:08 |
| cubezzz | worth a try | Jun 12 11:09 |
| schestowitz | This guy's pretty talented: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee3XaPFT5XM | Jun 12 11:26 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Events from #Canonical , #RedHat , Others http://ur1.ca/071sc http://ur1.ca/071sf http://ur1.ca/071sh | Jun 12 11:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Mozilla #Firefox is Coming http://ur1.ca/071sd http://ur1.ca/071se http://ur1.ca/071sg | Jun 12 11:30 | |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical to hold "Ubuntu in Business" event - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.86 KB | Jun 12 11:30 |
| Techrights | Title: Tell your story with opensource.com at the Summit | opensource.com .::. Size~: 39.18 KB | Jun 12 11:30 |
| Techrights | Title: Open Source Bridge: The City's Data Will Soon Be Your Oyster | Willamette Week | Saturday, June 12th, 2010 .::. Size~: 42.45 KB | Jun 12 11:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] $88 Android 5-Inch Tablet. Seriously. - http://bit.ly/cOYuWi just the start #android #tablets | Jun 12 11:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: $88 Android 5-Inch Tablet. Seriously. | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 29.37 KB | Jun 12 11:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Natural tensions betweens leadership and consensus. http://is.gd/cMydD | Jun 12 11:32 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jun 12 11:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Highly Misleading Press Release by Oxford University Press Journals - http://bit.ly/b8Cq1X getting desperate, #OUP? #fud #openaccess | Jun 12 11:38 | |
| Techrights | Title: Highly Misleading Press Release by Oxford University Press Journals - Open Access Archivangelism .::. Size~: 36.7 KB | Jun 12 11:38 |
| cubezzz | how big can fat16 be? 2 gigs? | Jun 12 11:41 |
| cubezzz | ah, I better look it up | Jun 12 11:41 |
| cubezzz | ok, FAT16 it is then | Jun 12 11:42 |
| cubezzz | well if this works I should have a nice dos machine for old games | Jun 12 11:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Em Alcongosta... | Jun 12 11:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft markets its Web browser as the “secure” option with the help of another MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) http://ur1.ca/071vr | Jun 12 11:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Promotes Internet Explorer Using Lies That It Spreads to Africans | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.81 KB | Jun 12 11:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 2010 #Mozilla T-shirt, Firefox for AmigaOS, #WebM Enters #Firefox http://ur1.ca/071w1 http://ur1.ca/071w3 http://ur1.ca/071w9 | Jun 12 11:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #FreeSoftware Inside #SaaS and the Lock-in Effect http://ur1.ca/071w4 http://ur1.ca/071w6 http://ur1.ca/071wa | Jun 12 11:54 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Zenoss Blog: No Node Left Behind: Three Cloud Lock-in Considerations - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Management .::. Size~: 83.56 KB | Jun 12 11:54 |
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| Techrights | Title: The Cloud's Killer Application: Mobile Media? - Open Source Insider .::. Size~: 26.3 KB | Jun 12 11:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eye on #Security : Zero-Day #Windows Vulnerabilities, Critical #InternetExplorer Vulnerabilities http://ur1.ca/0720d | Jun 12 12:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @yoonkit guess who is cooperating with Monsanto big time? Yep. Bill Gates. | Jun 12 12:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Using google nav on Nexus sucks battery empty in no time. Bug or feature? | Jun 12 12:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] For the good of mankind? RT @jwildeboer: @yoonkit guess who is cooperating with Monsanto big time? Yep. Bill Gates | Jun 12 12:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Why comments after a press story are a good idea. http://is.gd/cMARK | Jun 12 12:33 | |
| Techrights | Title: Why file-sharing has killed 'unlimited' mobile data contracts | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 211.09 KB | Jun 12 12:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PostgreSQL 9.0 is Coming, Other Semi-Free #Databases Spread http://ur1.ca/07267 http://ur1.ca/07268 http://ur1.ca/0726b | Jun 12 12:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] South African #Government and #Brazil Are Going for #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/06n4z http://ur1.ca/07269 http://ur1.ca/0726c | Jun 12 12:36 | |
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| Techrights | Title: NoSQL goes mobile with the help of CouchDB | Software, Interrupted - CNET News .::. Size~: 91.71 KB | Jun 12 12:36 |
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| Techrights | Title: Brazil Wants To Be The Next India and Open Source Is Their Secret Weapon | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 79.1 KB | Jun 12 12:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Open source could be Brazil's real advantage - Management Matters .::. Size~: 28.59 KB | Jun 12 12:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Dear telco companies. Can I haz global flatrate for internet? Roaming is biggest obstacle to free data access. | Jun 12 12:47 | |
| schestowitz | I need some help | Jun 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I am looking for quotes from Apple that show its dark side | Jun 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I spent hours trying | Jun 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz | But yet, no single page with quotes that show Apple's bad side | Jun 12 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I can't think of what to search to find a compilation | Jun 12 12:49 |
| oiaohm | You will not find them. schestowitz | Jun 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Apple is a finely tuned PR machine. | Jun 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | They only show evil in actions. | Jun 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Take the GPL program removals apple did not one message from apple about it. | Jun 12 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Just straight dead silence. | Jun 12 12:53 |
| oiaohm | This is normal for apple doing anything evil. | Jun 12 12:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Apple Exploits Free Software, Bans Free Software and Also Bans Competition http://ur1.ca/0728h FTC Investigation Launched Against Apple) | Jun 12 12:54 | |
| Techrights | Title: Apple Exploits Free Software, Then Bans Free Software and Also Bans Competition (and FTC Investigation Launched Against Apple) | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.97 KB | Jun 12 12:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to kick off the #selinuxfest keynote. Hope to meet some of you there. | Jun 12 13:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical Searches For Its Strategy, Confused About ‘Patent Protection’ for #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/0729t #fsf #novell | Jun 12 13:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Canonical Searches for Its Strategy, Confused About Patent Protection for Ubuntu | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.2 KB | Jun 12 13:08 |
| cubezzz | well the ol | Jun 12 13:10 |
| cubezzz | old 486 does 320x200 just fine | Jun 12 13:10 |
| cubezzz | now I can even compare dosbox to freedos | Jun 12 13:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Openness and #Sharing Promoted, Triumpth http://ur1.ca/072az http://ur1.ca/072b1 http://ur1.ca/072b3 | Jun 12 13:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of Open #Hardware and Open Content http://ur1.ca/072b0 http://ur1.ca/072b2 http://ur1.ca/072b4 http://ur1.ca/072b5 | Jun 12 13:17 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Monotype Imaging Contributes Chinese Font to Symbian Foundation | Symbian Blog .::. Size~: 27.47 KB | Jun 12 13:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Clay Shirky's COGNITIVE SURPLUS: how the net lets us share and do more than ever - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 37.29 KB | Jun 12 13:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Lung Cancer Alliance Launches First Open Access Patient Driven Website for CT Scans and... -- WASHINGTON, June 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 54 KB | Jun 12 13:17 |
| Techrights | Title: Open Clip Art Library Spring 2010 Release! | Worldlabel Blog .::. Size~: 21.62 KB | Jun 12 13:17 |
| Techrights | Title: xkcds Tiniest Open-Source Violin IRL | Geekosystem .::. Size~: 28.29 KB | Jun 12 13:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I'm not exactly what you call a 'trainspotter' but I'm looking at train based games online :S | Jun 12 13:21 | |
| schestowitz | [12:52] <oiaohm> Apple is a finely tuned PR machine. | Jun 12 13:23 |
| schestowitz | [12:52] <oiaohm> They only show evil in actions. | Jun 12 13:23 |
| schestowitz | They have AstroTurfers | Jun 12 13:23 |
| schestowitz | I have some posts naming the firms they hire | Jun 12 13:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] London event looks to boost Ubuntu users- http://tinyurl.com/2w6xmas #linux #ubuntu #microsoft #mvp #xp #vista #windows7 #windows #canonical | Jun 12 13:26 | |
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| oiaohm | Again not with there name. schestowitz | Jun 12 13:30 |
| oiaohm | As i said finely tuned PR machine schestowitz | Jun 12 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Never press release bad news. | Jun 12 13:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Couldn't care less about the football, because of work, Im going to miss Doctor Who. | Jun 12 13:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Talking of football, there was a very funny episode on the IT Crowd where they had conversations with football fans without knowing anything | Jun 12 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] about football...its very easy to do, Ive tried it at work. A few "appalling display"'s a few "shocking"'s and they will be convinced you | Jun 12 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] are an expert. | Jun 12 13:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenAccess and #Standards promoted http://ur1.ca/072dl http://ur1.ca/072dm http://ur1.ca/072dn http://ur1.ca/072do | Jun 12 13:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: The Australian Parliament goes CC - with v3.0 | Creative Commons Australia .::. Size~: 18.88 KB | Jun 12 13:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Time for data.ac.uk? Or a local data.open.ac.uk? « OUseful.Info, the blog& .::. Size~: 42.9 KB | Jun 12 13:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Learning from Libraries: The Literacy Challenge of Open Data | eaves.ca .::. Size~: 48.64 KB | Jun 12 13:39 |
| Techrights | Title: The Battle Over the Next-gen Open Smart Grid .::. Size~: 66.37 KB | Jun 12 13:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FOSS Helps the Environment http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=3003&blogid=14 | Jun 12 13:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Substitute to AMBE http://www.eham.net/articles/24011 | Jun 12 13:45 | |
| Techrights | Title: Grokking Green IT - and why Open Source Helps - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 82.28 KB | Jun 12 13:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ITC Considers Whether to Ban #Apple Products After Apple Sued #Linux (Android) http://ur1.ca/072en #swpats | Jun 12 13:48 | |
| Techrights | Title: ITC Considers Whether to Ban Apple Products After Apple Sued Linux (Android) | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.37 KB | Jun 12 13:48 |
| cubezzz | cool, got Linux 2.2 and freedos to dual boot | Jun 12 14:01 |
| cubezzz | now I have to figure out the old sound card | Jun 12 14:01 |
| cubezzz | pwd | Jun 12 14:05 |
| cubezzz | oops | Jun 12 14:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] Recalls that interoperability and accessibility are interlinked http://bit.ly/c2XbEw | Jun 12 14:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: REPORT Report on a new Digital Agenda for Europe: 2015.eu - A7-0066/2010 .::. Size~: 142.25 KB | Jun 12 14:05 |
| MinceR | /home/cubezzz | Jun 12 14:05 |
| cubezzz | dos cube lives again | Jun 12 14:14 |
| cubezzz | ah, better get some sleep | Jun 12 14:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Yes. Perfect example of spreading ideals the smart way RT @storming: Does dairy = free software ideals? http://bit.ly/9V5y91 | Jun 12 14:18 | |
| Techrights | Title: Seth's Blog: Lula's logic .::. Size~: 50.66 KB | Jun 12 14:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] .@storming People will learn how good Software Freedom is if we can get them to eat it http://bit.ly/9V5y91 | Jun 12 14:21 | |
| Techrights | Title: Seth's Blog: Lula's logic .::. Size~: 50.66 KB | Jun 12 14:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO (European Patent Office) approach to software patents very likely to be supported by a Central EU Patent Court: http://ur1.ca/072it | Jun 12 14:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: LinuxTag 2010 EU Processes Presentation .::. Size~: 110.06 KB | Jun 12 14:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Google background fail & Microsoft rejoices? Who is really failing? http://tinyurl.com/33fz7vn #microsoft #bing #mvp #google #fail | Jun 12 14:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Web Services as Governments - http://bit.ly/ciPNzi effectively, a slightly new riff on the "code is law" idea #platforms | Jun 12 14:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: Google background fail & Microsoft rejoices? Who is really failing? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 36.54 KB | Jun 12 14:26 |
| Techrights | Title: Web Services as Governments - Union Square Ventures: A New York Venture Capital Fund Focused on Early Stage & Startup Investing .::. Size~: 35.31 KB | Jun 12 14:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Blind Students Get Free Access to Cambridge U. Press Books - http://bit.ly/bcjlkO *every* publisher everywhere should do this #publishing | Jun 12 14:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Blind Students Get Free Access to Cambridge U. Press Books - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 31.99 KB | Jun 12 14:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @DaemonFC I just came across your well written blog, I have it bookmarked. | Jun 12 14:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Giorgio Moroder Project official Italian album for Italia '90: unbelievably awful. Giorgio, I'm so disappointed. | Jun 12 15:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Story of Jamia Millia LUG, Delhi #foss #lug #lugiitd http://sheelsindhu.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-lug-re-initiated-in-jamia-millia.html | Jun 12 15:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sheel Sindhu Manohar: How LUG Re-Initiated In JAMIA MILLIA ISLAMIA .::. Size~: 50.95 KB | Jun 12 15:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Just installed "Score Mobile FC" to keep track of World cup matches and updates - and I'm not even following any teams. #footiefever | Jun 12 15:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software #Patents Debate in #LinuxTag 2010 and Elsewhere in Europe http://ur1.ca/072sb #swpats #europe #ffii | Jun 12 15:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Restaurante Mario, perto do Fundao: nao se comeu nada de especialmente bem feito e ainda nos tentaram levar 15 EUR em entradas q nem vieram. | Jun 12 15:57 | |
| MinceR | http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/07/the-just-world-fallacy/ | Jun 12 16:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/35676842#notice-35924727 "@schestowitz Don't know what u mean by "just works"---my laptop requires tons of tweakage" Windows does too (unless it's preinstalled by an OEM). Apple just sells them combined. | Jun 12 16:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] From @cracked : http://www.cracked.com/photoshop_66_21-famous-photographs-minus-pants/ | Jun 12 16:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Microsoft embraced, extended, and extinguished companies; examples from Ulteo, sub-notebooks, VMware, and Novell http://ur1.ca/0730t | Jun 12 16:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Top Tip for replicants: this is why http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHPnMnYXEdE HT @ebertchicago | Jun 12 16:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | I see the local businesses are not obeying the new signage ordinance | Jun 12 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | good for them :) | Jun 12 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | Updike, the local signage Stalin | Jun 12 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | the city will now tel lyou how big your ads can be and if they can walk or not | Jun 12 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | even on your own property :P | Jun 12 16:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] sing your way home, at the close of the day ... http://video.stomp.com.sg/20100306-ss-bollywood2/player.html #fb | Jun 12 16:40 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I have no idea why anyone is surprised that that guy that leaked things out to Wikileaks is being detained without charge in Kuwait. | Jun 12 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | The US Supreme Court ruled back in the 1980s that the CIA can track you down and murder you if you step foot outside of the US, didn't they? | Jun 12 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Why should anyone expect constitutional protection anywhere else in the world if the CIA can murder you anywhere else in the world? :) | Jun 12 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | So in theory, you're safer from the US in the US than anywhere not in the US. | Jun 12 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "missing persons list" are actually in Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc. | Jun 12 16:43 |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, the latest Firefox nightly looks more like IE 8 | Jun 12 16:54 |
| MinceR | it breaks layout? | Jun 12 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jun 12 17:01 |
| Aondo | does it look like ie on linux? | Jun 12 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | no, still ugly | Jun 12 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | well, on GNOME anyway | Jun 12 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | where most people see it | Jun 12 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | Winbuntu 98 | Jun 12 17:04 |
| MinceR | Winbuntu X? | Jun 12 17:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] LOL. "Ronal-D'oh!" Homer skit funny. | Jun 12 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ubuntu and GNOME seem to like to take the ugliest and most non-functional and backwards GUI lessons | Jun 12 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | from all the other operating systems and desktop environments | Jun 12 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | It has some of the worst GUI mistakes of Windows 2000, KDE 2, and OS X put together now | Jun 12 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | can't even tell what they were trying to do with it | Jun 12 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | What's worst of all is that Compiz makes Aero look fantastic | Jun 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | you flip Aero on in Windows and you get a faster and prettier GUI that takes advantage of your GPU | Jun 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | you flip Compiz on and your system is now slow and prone to crashing | Jun 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | why exactly is that? :) | Jun 12 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | also, Aero turns itself off if you launch a full screen application that hides the desktop anyway | Jun 12 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz just pisses all over your application | Jun 12 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz is such a spectacular embarassment that you have to wonder why many distributions even turn it on by default | Jun 12 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | much less promote it | Jun 12 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | it was sort of cool, by 2005 standards, if you had an Nvidia card | Jun 12 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | it just never got past that | Jun 12 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, GNOME Shell is actually causing kernel panics | Jun 12 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | on Ubuntu anyway | Jun 12 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | "The top 10 of Linux still features such outfits as CentOS, Slackware, and FreeBSD" | Jun 12 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-coming-linux-shakeout/6661 | Jun 12 17:15 |
| Techrights | Title: The coming Linux shakeout | ZDNet .::. Size~: 133.15 KB | Jun 12 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The top 10 full size pickup trucks include the Toyota Prius | Jun 12 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | The top 10 death metal superstars include Cher | Jun 12 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Why does Google News index Microsoft splogs posing as news sites? | Jun 12 17:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Managed to get berry4all to work to tether my Bold with Ubuntu via USB. Change the verizon settings and chat "digi" and "diginet" EDGE only. | Jun 12 17:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.beatweek.com/news/6504-microsoft-to-ship-five-million-imaginary-project-natal-units-in-2010/ | Jun 12 17:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft to ship five million imaginary Project Natal units in 2010? : Beatweek Magazine .::. Size~: 36.93 KB | Jun 12 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | "demoed in controlled environments" | Jun 12 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | Someone behind the curtain with a wireless controller? | Jun 12 17:24 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 12 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't want another Vista Voice Recognition | Jun 12 17:24 |
| MinceR | or another BSOD | Jun 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | or better yet, don't put an actual game on the screen | Jun 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | just a recording of the game working | Jun 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | and put a dummy "Natal" unit on the on-stage actor | Jun 12 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | probably easier than expecting "Natal" to really work | Jun 12 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | much less that can go wrong that way | Jun 12 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | spend good money on the actor | Jun 12 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Cirque du Soleil style choreography | Jun 12 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4DfSBnBR08 | Jun 12 17:28 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Windows Me introduction video was probably the best scripted production Microsoft has ever made | Jun 12 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | it led you to believe the thing may work before dumping you out to Windows 98 Third Edition | Jun 12 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | I want that Microsoft back :P | Jun 12 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNWw7h8cEU | Jun 12 17:31 |
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| DaemonFC | multi-cultural Windows Media Player 7 goodness | Jun 12 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's magic, it plays WMA files and MP3s! | Jun 12 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | and beams it to your iMac that runs Windows Me | Jun 12 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | System Restore not only fixes Windows, it beats the kid up with the plastic hammer while shouting "How do you like it you little brat!?!? Huh!?" | Jun 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | and most importantly, black people, asian people, and an old white grandma | Jun 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | true diversity comes from people who look different | Jun 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | everybody knows that | Jun 12 17:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] looking forward to a family holiday in perth starting tomorrow for a week. yay! #fb | Jun 12 17:34 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNWw7h8cEU | Jun 12 17:36 |
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| DaemonFC | heh, $3.11 a gallon | Jun 12 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | *cough* ripoff!!! | Jun 12 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | but it is California | Jun 12 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | have to take the "smog tax" that they use to feed all the crack babies with into consideration | Jun 12 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/06/11/jon-stewart-grassley-wants-to-inebriate-the-gulf-of-mexico/ | Jun 12 17:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Jon Stewart: Grassley wants to inebriate the Gulf of Mexico | Des Moines Register Staff Blogs .::. Size~: 81.5 KB | Jun 12 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | "You wanna play charades?" "Eeek Eeek Eeek....AACK!!!!!" *falls over* | Jun 12 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Kevin Costner had the best idea | Jun 12 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | because it didn't involve nuclear weapons or pouring 10 billion tonnes of yeast into the ocean | Jun 12 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | liek the scientists and politicians want to do | Jun 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Jun 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Let's stop the oil leak by detonating a nuclear warhead off the coast of Florida | Jun 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | even though it probably won't work, it will kill a lot of old people and drunk college students | Jun 12 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not like it would be a total loss | Jun 12 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | and Cubans | Jun 12 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | don't forget all the Cubans | Jun 12 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | "To fast flip, use the big fucking pointy arrow thing on the right" (Google News) | Jun 12 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, that did kind of puzzle me | Jun 12 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | thanks for letting me in on what that thing does :) | Jun 12 17:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A friend of mine has had is first born this morning at 10:38 Lisbon time. Congratulations, friend :) | Jun 12 18:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] To all my followers on Twitter, due to the end of https basic auth in June 30, my Twitter participation will be exclusively write only. | Jun 12 18:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] If you want to interact with me, please follow-me on http://identi.ca/ which is a Free (as in Freedom) Software twitter-like service. | Jun 12 18:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 41.61 KB | Jun 12 18:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] It is also where the really cool people are... :) | Jun 12 18:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Off to a wedding reception where there might not be a telly. No football. Hurrah. | Jun 12 18:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Leighton Buzzard (the place) always raises a smile as an implausible name when I pass it. | Jun 12 18:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] mission impossible for Indian LUGs ;) http://neevaan.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/a-content-management-system-for-lugs/ | Jun 12 19:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: A Content Management System for LUGs « N e e v a a N .::. Size~: 29.79 KB | Jun 12 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | aggh | Jun 12 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I about added some Memorex DL-DVDs to my cart them noticed that most of the reviewers have half or more of the discs failing to write | Jun 12 19:21 |
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| DaemonFC | dodged a bullet there | Jun 12 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | *then | Jun 12 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | A friend just told me about http://www.saharareporters.com/ | Jun 12 19:24 |
| Techrights | Title: SaharaReporters.com .::. Size~: 1.57 KB | Jun 12 19:24 |
| schestowitz | He's from Nigeria... aware of the exploitation of their country. Decent site... | Jun 12 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon Has Certified That This Packaging Is Frustration-Free | Jun 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | This item is delivered in an easy-to-open recyclable box and is free of plastic "clamshells" and wire ties. | Jun 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Do they also certify that the use of teeth will not be required? | Jun 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 19:25 |
| schestowitz | [17:19] <DaemonFC> Why does Google News index Microsoft splogs posing as news sites? | Jun 12 19:25 |
| schestowitz | I raised this question many times in the site | Jun 12 19:26 |
| schestowitz | "Dana, Free BSD is NOT Linux | Jun 12 19:26 |
| schestowitz | "CentOS is Red Hat without the branding and Slackware is a meta-distro, meaning it's a distro from which you derive other distros. OK, you can use Slackware as your main distro but the derivatives are more user friendly and look better. " | Jun 12 19:26 |
| schestowitz | LOL Does he not know Dana hardly ever touched Linux? | Jun 12 19:27 |
| schestowitz | ZDnet has many spectators as writers | Jun 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSd, Linux, what's the difference? It's all the same tree hugging hippie crap anyway. | Jun 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Not reviewers like in engadget | Jun 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now lets go back to praising Windows 7. | Jun 12 19:29 |
| schestowitz | :-=) | Jun 12 19:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: and yahweh | Jun 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | AmazonBasics 8.5 GB 8x DVD+R DL (50-Pack Spindle) | Jun 12 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Temporarily out of stock. | Jun 12 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Order now and we'll deliver when available. | Jun 12 19:30 |
| schestowitz | "Whoa, my interview with @kmf made techrights.org! http://g33q.co.za great guy, great #floss champ" http://twitter.com/quintinza/statuses/16003264740 | Jun 12 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/andgodsed/statuses/16003331561 | Jun 12 19:31 |
| Techrights | Title: Twitter / andgodsed: RT @quintinza: Whoa, my in ... .::. Size~: 8.27 KB | Jun 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | In Soviet Russian, Amazon tells me when they're available and I order now. | Jun 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | *Russia | Jun 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | "To conceal its contents mark it as a gift." | Jun 12 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Whao | Jun 12 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if I can make the greeting on the box say "Warning: Anthrax. LEVEL 5 BIOHAZARD!!! Personal Protective Equipment must be worn at all times." | Jun 12 19:32 |
| schestowitz | You have the same type pattern? | Jun 12 19:32 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was just me | Jun 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | see how far it gets through the mail system | Jun 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz | *typo pattern, I mean | Jun 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I can never type Russia fast | Jun 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I type Russian | Jun 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I never had an explanation for it | Jun 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You figure I could make the 5 PM news with that? | Jun 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. | Jun 12 19:34 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Jun 12 19:34 |
| schestowitz | The game is on shortly | Jun 12 19:34 |
| schestowitz | We'll kick your arse :-) | Jun 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | doubtful | Jun 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | We'll occupy your country and make you turn the game over to us. | Jun 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Then we'll say you did so willingly! | Jun 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 19:34 |
| schestowitz | http://bubble20snarkgroup.com/usa-vs-england-live-stream-online-fifa-world-cup-2010-update/ | Jun 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: England will send people from BC to assassinate Lincoln II | Jun 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Most will elope, 4 trialled and executed | Jun 12 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Jun 12 19:35 |
| Techrights | Most will elope, 4 trialled and executed | Jun 12 19:35 |
| Techrights | huh? | Jun 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Joke | Jun 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | About history | Jun 12 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jun 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | the Canadian/Ex-Confederate conspiracy theory | Jun 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | I know of this | Jun 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 19:36 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln | Jun 12 19:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Abraham Lincoln - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 482.96 KB | Jun 12 19:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not confirmed? | Jun 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | these things work their way through the system at their own pace | Jun 12 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | if you catch my drift :P | Jun 12 19:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's funny is that it's part of our constitution that the foreign banks that funded the Confederacy will never be paid back. | Jun 12 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | and the states that they funded are prohibited from doing so as well :) | Jun 12 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Funding the agricultural side of the civil war instead of the side with the factory making the weapons. | Jun 12 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | That sound smart :) | Jun 12 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | especially considering that you can't survive long by eating cotton | Jun 12 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | 1.0 out of 5 stars worst blanks, May 30, 2010 | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | By Ishwar Rampaul - See all my reviews | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | (REAL NAME) | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon Verified Purchase(What's this?) | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | This review is from: AmazonBasics 8.5 GB 8x DVD+R DL (50-Pack Spindle) (Electronics) | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | i used these blanks to burn 360 backup but some burn successfully but the problems with the successful ones when they get hot in the drive they start to warp and the disc would not play | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | "I used my web browser to admit to committing a felony and all I got was this lousy 20 year sentence and $250,000 fine" | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Do you see a problem in that you can kill someone and be out of prison in as little as 5 years, but if you copy an XBOX 360 game, you could end up doing 20? | Jun 12 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think it may just be me... | Jun 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Crimes are judges by their harm to those in power | Jun 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | *judged | Jun 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | In no country did peasants ratify and write the law | Jun 12 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | in really poor countries they did | Jun 12 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | with recommendations provided by really rich countries | Jun 12 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | strong recommendations | Jun 12 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | persuasive recommendations | Jun 12 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | compelling recommendations | Jun 12 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | With a strong emphasis on all the bad things that could happen if these recommendations were not enacted. | Jun 12 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes the choice is really easy | Jun 12 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Sign here or L. Paul Bremer can stay as long as you like." | Jun 12 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't make the choice easy, those simple peasants may get confused. | Jun 12 19:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I think I should do a PhD in Free & Open Source Pedogy and E-learning with Free and Open Source #phd #foss I wanna go outside India | Jun 12 19:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Torvalds’ Home Nation Still Besieged by #Microsoft and Its Partners http://bit.ly/9nYzcY #linux #windows | Jun 12 19:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: Torvalds Home Nation Still Besieged by Microsoft and Its Partners | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.61 KB | Jun 12 19:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How LUG Re-Initiated In JAMIA MILLIA ISLAMIA http://post.ly/jIjD | Jun 12 19:58 | |
| Techrights | Title: How LUG Re-Initiated In JAMIA MILLIA ISLAMIA - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 33.59 KB | Jun 12 19:58 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/11/suspended_animation_in_lab/ | Jun 12 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | [19:48] <DaemonFC> in really poor countries they did | Jun 12 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Bolivia? | Jun 12 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | that was a terrible movie | Jun 12 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you're getting to what I think you are | Jun 12 20:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya how about the UK? | Jun 12 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not a film | Jun 12 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Quantum of Solace | Jun 12 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | "60% of the water in Bolivia wil lbe ours!" | Jun 12 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | "And the people will pay slightly more for it!" | Jun 12 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | not the best James BOnd movie ever | Jun 12 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | It's not fiction | Jun 12 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://killercoke.org/ | Jun 12 20:06 |
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| schestowitz | Water scarcity in SA | Jun 12 20:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz Yup,, UK will be fine for me !! where in UK ? | Jun 12 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://agonist.org/netbetrayal | Jun 12 20:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya what subject? | Jun 12 20:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://lgn.linux-hardcore.com/aquaria-goes-free-source/ | Jun 12 20:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya I can get you in touch with CS people (supervisors). You do need to speak to them before applying. | Jun 12 20:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya I had the choice here to do my Ph.D. in Computer Science or in Medical Biophysics (I had also applied at Cambridge). | Jun 12 20:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz FOSS + elearning is my core subject | Jun 12 20:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Mr. Disco. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/538896.html | Jun 12 20:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz what is your college | Jun 12 20:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: reddragdiva | Mr Disco. .::. Size~: 27.83 KB | Jun 12 20:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya I can't find any here, but try having a look: http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/phd/researchprojects/ | Jun 12 20:15 | |
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| schestowitz | England1:0United States-Live update (39') | Jun 12 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fifa.com/live/competitions/worldcup/matchday=2/day=1/match=300061466/index.html | Jun 12 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | 1-1 | Jun 12 20:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.salixos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=876&start=0 | Jun 12 20:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Shame England can't keep ahead in the game today *Sigh* | Jun 12 20:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06125 | Jun 12 20:21 |
| Techrights | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 111.23 KB | Jun 12 20:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you don't watch the game? | Jun 12 20:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm watching a pirate broadcast of it | Jun 12 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | shhh | Jun 12 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 20:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Samsung_is_a_GPL_Violator | Jun 12 20:43 |
| Techrights | Title: Samsung is a GPL Violator | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 28.46 KB | Jun 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: naa... fifa is a copyright zealot | Jun 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | They are like the Olympic committee, bullying for reputation throug control | Jun 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I bet you don't know the rules... of -footballl- soccer | Jun 12 20:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a woman's sport in the US (that includes Justin Bieber) | Jun 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | including the lesbians who resemble him? | Jun 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 20:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the guys here are honking outside | Jun 12 20:45 |
| schestowitz | I have sunlight on me, the guys in the faraway pub shout at the TV | Jun 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "C'mon England!!" | Jun 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3887236/Is-Oracle-Ready-to-Dump-AMD-from-Sun-x86-Server-Lineup.htm | Jun 12 20:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @RuiSeabra it was very good that Mark [Shuttleworth] gave Microsoft the middle finger ;) #swpat | Jun 12 20:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.liliputing.com/2010/06/tablet-news-roundup-mini-tablets-reviewed-att-reveals-114000-ipad-users-data.html | Jun 12 20:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Tablet news roundup: Mini-tablets reviewed, AT&T reveals 114,000 iPad users data .::. Size~: 22.46 KB | Jun 12 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/16296/at_t_exposes_e_mail_addresses_for_100_000_ipad_owners | Jun 12 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | Whose fault is it? Apple's and CIA&T? | Jun 12 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.joburg.org.za/content/view/5326/266/ | Jun 12 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | feels sticky outside | Jun 12 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to storm soon :P | Jun 12 21:06 |
| *DaemonFC invites schestowitz to download Internet Explorer 8 so he can make a Web Slice out of the scoreboard | Jun 12 21:10 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 21:10 |
| schestowitz | What a crap game | Jun 12 21:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fifa.com/live/competitions/worldcup/matchday=2/day=1/match=300061466/index.html | Jun 12 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Need to subs' to comment | Jun 12 21:20 |
| schestowitz | 8 yars ago I did this through Yahoo while I was at work | Jun 12 21:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: Just when you thought it was safe to use IRC: http://icio.us/f3qvek | Jun 12 21:22 | |
| Techrights | Title: Researchers develop HoneyBot, Social Engineer IRC Users automatically | IRC-Junkie.org IRC News .::. Size~: 31.35 KB | Jun 12 21:22 |
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| yuhong | Off-topic, but | Jun 12 21:25 |
| yuhong | http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1113243&p=20505217 | Jun 12 21:25 |
| Techrights | Title: The switch from firing employees to direct response - Ars Technica OpenForum .::. Size~: 26.08 KB | Jun 12 21:25 |
| yuhong | BTW, has a term been agreed for "blog-bot-bombing"? | Jun 12 21:26 |
| yuhong | With MinceR? | Jun 12 21:26 |
| MinceR | ? | Jun 12 21:28 |
| yuhong | schestowith:BTW, has a term been agreed for "blog-bot-bombing"? | Jun 12 21:28 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: BTW, has a term been agreed for "blog-bot-bombing"? | Jun 12 21:28 |
| yuhong | I already have written this blog article about it: | Jun 12 21:28 |
| yuhong | http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2010/06/spamming-comments-with-automated.html | Jun 12 21:28 |
| Techrights | Title: Yuhong Bao's blog: Spamming comments with automated responses is a bad idea .::. Size~: 32.96 KB | Jun 12 21:28 |
| MinceR | i don't remember discussing terms for it (but that doesn't mean it didn't happen) | Jun 12 21:29 |
| yuhong | I discussed it with schestowitz. | Jun 12 21:30 |
| yuhong | He agreed to create a new term for it. | Jun 12 21:31 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: Are you there? | Jun 12 21:31 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 12 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jun 12 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Just busy | Jun 12 21:31 |
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| yuhong | schestowitz: BTW, has a term been agreed for "blog-bot-bombing"? Since MinceR is there, this would be a good time to discuss. | Jun 12 21:32 |
| yuhong | On Bill C-32: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cdy08/michael_geist_canadian_law_professor_happy_to/ | Jun 12 21:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Michael Geist, Canadian law professor, happy to discuss new copyright bill, spam law or other Internet issues : IAmA .::. Size~: 472.25 KB | Jun 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Why should I mind him? | Jun 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz | He knows ACTA well | Jun 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Copyright and PR/spam are not the same thing | Jun 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | "and approximately 240 minutes of video (SP mode) on a single disc" | Jun 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | isn't that a VHS recording mode? | Jun 12 21:37 |
| *DaemonFC records over schestowitz in SLP | Jun 12 21:37 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 21:37 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: I know that it is a different topic. I just want to mention this since it is another topic mentioned by Techrights. | Jun 12 21:37 |
| schestowitz | I see the post you wrote now | Jun 12 21:37 |
| schestowitz | You should set up an identica account | Jun 12 21:38 |
| yuhong | Hasn't yet. | Jun 12 21:38 |
| schestowitz | http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2010/06/spamming-comments-with-automated.html > shortest blog post EVA | Jun 12 21:38 |
| Techrights | Title: Yuhong Bao's blog: Spamming comments with automated responses is a bad idea .::. Size~: 32.96 KB | Jun 12 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Open identi.ca account | Jun 12 21:39 |
| yuhong | So far, my Facebook, Twitter, and Google accounts has been enough for most comment systems. | Jun 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca | Jun 12 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | I'll add it to this channel | Jun 12 21:39 |
| yuhong | I will though. | Jun 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz | What twitter account? | Jun 12 21:39 |
| yuhong | httptwitter.com/yuhong2 | Jun 12 21:40 |
| yuhong | http://twitter.com/yuhong2 | Jun 12 21:40 |
| Techrights | Title: Yuhong Bao (yuhong2) on Twitter .::. Size~: 25.72 KB | Jun 12 21:40 |
| yuhong | You may have noticed I use it for commenting. | Jun 12 21:40 |
| yuhong | On TechCrunch and other sites. | Jun 12 21:40 |
| yuhong | http://identi.ca/yuhong | Jun 12 21:40 |
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| yuhong | Just set it up. | Jun 12 21:40 |
| yuhong | Just set it up. | Jun 12 21:41 |
| schestowitz | OK, I added you to my list, but it's just comments | Jun 12 21:41 |
| schestowitz | I can't add that to BNtwitter unless you post about FOSS | Jun 12 21:41 |
| yuhong | Which I hasn't yet. | Jun 12 21:41 |
| schestowitz | If you decide to post about FOSS, then I can add you | Jun 12 21:41 |
| yuhong | I don't post on twitter much yet. | Jun 12 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 12 21:42 |
| yuhong | I used my OpenID from blogspot when I registered. | Jun 12 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Chief Value and Newegg are the same company | Jun 12 21:43 |
| yuhong | I have focused most of my Techrights activities on the IRC channel and comments. | Jun 12 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Newegg has a 50 pack of DL-DVDs for $32, and Chief Value has the same item for $28 | Jun 12 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | :| | Jun 12 21:43 |
| yuhong | I spend much of my time doing research. | Jun 12 21:43 |
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| yuhong | MinceR: Have you seen this too: | Jun 12 21:49 |
| yuhong | http://yuhongbao.blogspot.com/2010/06/spamming-comments-with-automated.html | Jun 12 21:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Yuhong Bao's blog: Spamming comments with automated responses is a bad idea .::. Size~: 32.95 KB | Jun 12 21:49 |
| MinceR | probably not | Jun 12 21:49 |
| MinceR | now i have | Jun 12 21:50 |
| yuhong | schestowitz and MinceR: Have you agreed on a term for this? | Jun 12 21:50 |
| MinceR | i haven't discussed it | Jun 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Jun 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz | You can vote for it | Jun 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: newegg is a terrible name | Jun 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I'm thinking of some chap with an omelette on his head | Jun 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Here we have a bank called "Egg" | Jun 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Could be worse though... it could be called "Balls" | Jun 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Teller: "which bank will you pass this payment to?" | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | You: "Balls!!" | Jun 12 21:53 |
| yuhong | How about auto-responses? | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | That's mail feature | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | mass mailing is AstroTurfing | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | some call it spamming | Jun 12 21:53 |
| yuhong | It isn | Jun 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Fake grassroots | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | To people's mailboes | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | This is "professional spamming" | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | They auto-reply to critics | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Techrights: it is | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: | Jun 12 21:54 |
| yuhong | Mass mailing using form letters can be astroturfing, if for example people were paid to do it. | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | when people did this to a judge | Jun 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | This was labelled "Spamming" | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Though it's not | Jun 12 21:55 |
| yuhong | Lobbying is a common case of this. | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:54] <yuhong> Mass mailing using form letters can be astroturfing, if for example people were paid to do it. | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They are! | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They are paid for it | Jun 12 21:55 |
| yuhong | Microsoft for example does this. | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Comcast and other buy these reponses | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They externalise it | Jun 12 21:55 |
| yuhong | Buy these responses? | Jun 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | These are people on the wage of the crticised company coercing criticis | Jun 12 21:56 |
| Balrog_ | mass mailing using form letters ... | Jun 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | They have whole departments whose job is to shut up critics | Jun 12 21:56 |
| Balrog_ | in my opinion, letters that are identical except for name and contact info ... only one should be kept and the rest discarded | Jun 12 21:56 |
| Balrog_ | if they have some additional text, then it should be read | Jun 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | That's what those firms do | Jun 12 21:56 |
| yuhong | Yes, but that is not enough to qualify as astroturfing. | Jun 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe customise a little | Jun 12 21:56 |
| yuhong | It only qualify as astroturfing if the source is disguised. | Jun 12 21:57 |
| yuhong | Or there was an atttempt to disguise. | Jun 12 21:57 |
| yuhong | But such automated responses are like form letters, they are boring for one thing. | Jun 12 21:58 |
| yuhong | As I mentioned in my blog posts. | Jun 12 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I mainly just buy online because there's no sales taxes | Jun 12 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | I've talked to my state representative and told him that sales tax is obsolete | Jun 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | and that people shop online to avoid it | Jun 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | they still impose it :P | Jun 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | and money keeps flowing out of the state :) | Jun 12 22:00 |
| yuhong | Auto-responses by themselves is NOT astroturfing, only if the source is attempted to disguised THEN it is. | Jun 12 22:01 |
| yuhong | This is part of why I asked to create a separate term for it in the first place. | Jun 12 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's funny is that Walmart doesn't sell DL-DVDs | Jun 12 22:02 |
| yuhong | Auto-responses being a mail term is part of why I thought of it as a canidate in the first place. | Jun 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | they're the right size to copy movies and video games on in their entirety | Jun 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 22:02 |
| yuhong | Because it is indeed like mail auto-responses. | Jun 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to copy a commercial DVD movie onto a single layer disc, you must transcode it into something that fits into 4.7 GB first | Jun 12 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | then your DVD player won't play it most likely unless it supports DivX or something | Jun 12 22:03 |
| yuhong | Well, there is DVD+R DL. | Jun 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | DVD transcoded into XviD two-pass is not optimal | Jun 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather just burn from an ISO I ripped from the original :) | Jun 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, dual layer DVD lets you do that :) | Jun 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | the recording cartels have made sure that DL-DVD is hard to find and way more expensive | Jun 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | for that reason | Jun 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | no physical retail stores nearby even sell them | Jun 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Best Buy and Staples don't even have them | Jun 12 22:05 |
| yuhong | My project on the flaws of artificial scarcity include a page that talks about the history of DAT tapes, BTW. | Jun 12 22:06 |
| Balrog_ | the price for dvd+r dl went down a lot lately | Jun 12 22:06 |
| Balrog_ | around 60 to 70 cents a disc | Jun 12 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I snapped some up just now for 55 cents a disc | Jun 12 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they were upwards of $1 each not long ago | Jun 12 22:07 |
| Balrog_ | $1.50 a year and a half ago | Jun 12 22:07 |
| Balrog_ | what they're doing now for blu-ray is using audio watermarking | Jun 12 22:08 |
| yuhong | Yes, it includes mention of the Audio Home Recording Act and SCMS. | Jun 12 22:08 |
| Balrog_ | if the player detects a disc with watermarking that isn't "authentic" it will refuse to play it | Jun 12 22:08 |
| Balrog_ | that still doesn't help when people use players like VLC | Jun 12 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog_, Yeah, BD+ is what they call it | Jun 12 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | (who burns copies of blurays anymore?) | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: there are three | Jun 12 22:09 |
| yuhong | One side effect is that it is impossible to replicate a blu-ray without AACS DRM. | Jun 12 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | little snipet of encrypted something or other | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | AACS, BD+, and Verance audio watermarking | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | yuhong: yea it is | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | it's just not "spec" | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | nearly all bluray players will play a disc without AACS | Jun 12 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | so players have to license all three to make sure all discs play | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | but that disc is considered "out of spec" | Jun 12 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | nice little racket there | Jun 12 22:09 |
| Balrog_ | at least the first two | Jun 12 22:09 |
| yuhong | I am talking about "replicate". | Jun 12 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | the third is something that can be implemented into BD+ I think | Jun 12 22:10 |
| yuhong | I am talking about *replicate*. | Jun 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | then there's the codecs | Jun 12 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | yuhong: explain please | Jun 12 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | well there's h.264 and VC-1 | Jun 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | they have to license VC-1 even though most titles use h.264 | Jun 12 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | the players do | Jun 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 12 22:10 |
| yuhong | I know about DRM-free burned Blu-Ray. | Jun 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | h.264 is way superior to VC-1 | Jun 12 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | iirc | Jun 12 22:10 |
| Balrog_ | yes, if you use x264 | Jun 12 22:11 |
| Balrog_ | if you use | Jun 12 22:11 |
| yuhong | This was much discussed when discussing replication costs. | Jun 12 22:11 |
| Balrog_ | {{some commercial encoder}} it may SUCK | Jun 12 22:11 |
| yuhong | I am talking about *replication* of Blu-Ray. | Jun 12 22:11 |
| Balrog_ | you mean mass replication? | Jun 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | x264 developers seem evil | Jun 12 22:11 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 12 22:11 |
| Balrog_ | ahh | Jun 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | they compared VC-1 and Microsoft to Google and WebM | Jun 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | re: licensing | Jun 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | and patents | Jun 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | which seems ridiculous, to me anyways | Jun 12 22:12 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: concerning x264 developers, you should come over to #theora, #vp8, and some of those channels and see | Jun 12 22:12 |
| Balrog_ | I wouldn't say so | Jun 12 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft setting out to make a public domain royalty free codec seems unlikely | Jun 12 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | call me crazy | Jun 12 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft VC-1 was a setup imo | Jun 12 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | we call it free now, wait til lots of people use it | Jun 12 22:13 |
| Balrog_ | that's not impossible | Jun 12 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | then wouldn't it be unfortunate if MPEG Cartel made a patent pool | Jun 12 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | you better listen to them, don't wanna get sued now ;) | Jun 12 22:13 |
| yuhong | That is where HD DVD have an advantage. | Jun 12 22:13 |
| Balrog_ | as in? | Jun 12 22:14 |
| yuhong | DRM-free discs. | Jun 12 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it backfired on them because few people trusted VC-1 and Microsoft enough to use it | Jun 12 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | the results aren't much better than XviD anyway | Jun 12 22:14 |
| Balrog_ | DRM-free discs that "pass spec" | Jun 12 22:14 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 12 22:14 |
| yuhong | Exactly, so it is possible to replicate. | Jun 12 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | you can make a DRM-free Blu Ray disc movie | Jun 12 22:15 |
| yuhong | But you have to burn. | Jun 12 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 12 22:15 |
| Balrog_ | and why exactly is that? | Jun 12 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Blu Ray discs are swimming in DRM, but once you crack it, it's not an issue | Jun 12 22:16 |
| yuhong | But that is not the real solution. | Jun 12 22:16 |
| Balrog_ | AACS isn quite useless DRM | Jun 12 22:16 |
| Balrog_ | BD+ is stronger but lately been useless too | Jun 12 22:16 |
| yuhong | Maybe, but that is another debate altogether. | Jun 12 22:16 |
| Balrog_ | Verance watermarking is something that you really can't get around easily, but it only works if the player looks for it | Jun 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | any time you make a spec for a DRM scheme, it's basically a sitting duck | Jun 12 22:17 |
| Balrog_ | VLC obviously own't look for Verance watermarking | Jun 12 22:17 |
| Balrog_ | won't * | Jun 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's only so far you can adapt it without breaking your own spec | Jun 12 22:17 |
| yuhong | Yes, I know. | Jun 12 22:17 |
| yuhong | Now in practice, I think most HD DVD discs has AACS. | Jun 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | DRM is only useful to prevent casual copying by people that are fairly clueless | Jun 12 22:17 |
| yuhong | I know, part of my artificial scarcity project is talking about DRM. | Jun 12 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | DRM was more suited to distributed media pre-internet | Jun 12 22:18 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | where one or two people couldn't crack it, and even if they did, there was no mass outlet like bittorrent | Jun 12 22:18 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:18 |
| yuhong | P2P networks is a major part of my artificial scarcity project too. | Jun 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | now "piracy rings" crack most big ticket stuff within hours | Jun 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | so really, what's the point? :) | Jun 12 22:19 |
| yuhong | But not my point though. | Jun 12 22:19 |
| Balrog_ | you don't even need piracy rings | Jun 12 22:19 |
| yuhong | My point is that DRM is unavoidable if you *replicate* using Blu-Ray. | Jun 12 22:19 |
| Balrog_ | AnyDVD HD breaks it | Jun 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | true | Jun 12 22:19 |
| yuhong | While you can replicate HD DVD. | Jun 12 22:20 |
| yuhong | With no DRM. | Jun 12 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | I could be a one-man piracy ring with a copy of AnyDVD HD and an off-the-shelf disc drive | Jun 12 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's where DRM falls apart | Jun 12 22:20 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:20 |
| Balrog_ | where I work, we have a 5-disc duplicator | Jun 12 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | I wonder if those exist for Blu-Ray | Jun 12 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 12 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | the industry would be shitting themselves | Jun 12 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | apparently they do | Jun 12 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | lol | Jun 12 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | not cheap though | Jun 12 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | of course not | Jun 12 22:21 |
| Balrog_ | wait | Jun 12 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | keep the price high for the copy machines | Jun 12 22:22 |
| Balrog_ | $99 for a 1-to-4 controller | Jun 12 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | helps the artificial scarcity when nobody can afford bulk copying systems | Jun 12 22:22 |
| Balrog_ | $250 for a 1-to-15 | Jun 12 22:22 |
| Balrog_ | yea, you need to buy drives | Jun 12 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | you can have probably 20 copies an hour coming out of a 5 disc duplicator? | Jun 12 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | 20-30 or so | Jun 12 22:23 |
| Balrog_ | my brother had to make 40 copies of a DVD he created | Jun 12 22:23 |
| Balrog_ | took him maybe an hour and a half | Jun 12 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | do that with blu ray | Jun 12 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | see how long the machiens themselves are legal | Jun 12 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 22:23 |
| yuhong | Balrog_: So it is used for software or for movies? | Jun 12 22:23 |
| Balrog_ | anything | Jun 12 22:23 |
| Balrog_ | he made a slideshow | Jun 12 22:23 |
| Balrog_ | DVD-Video is just a UDF-volume | Jun 12 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | "Zomg we lost $25483063406732405632405824245226234769^10 dollars, in theory!" | Jun 12 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 12 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | assuming that 321580928345720857203756 families of 4 bought a copy for each person in the family and the cat | Jun 12 22:25 |
| Balrog_ | 90% of pirates will never buy the disc | Jun 12 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's all piracy's fault | Jun 12 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 22:25 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:25 |
| yuhong | These piracy stats, I know! | Jun 12 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | if that | Jun 12 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | and the 10% that would | Jun 12 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | most of them buy more than typical consumers | Jun 12 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | much more | Jun 12 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I always figure that any dolalr amount loss they claim, it's more like 5% of that | Jun 12 22:26 |
| Balrog_ | (that 90/10 split is probably more like 60/40) | Jun 12 22:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How you can help ThinkCPP project http://post.ly/jJO7 | Jun 12 22:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] I am pretty sure both countries are in FIFA. | Jun 12 22:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's cheaper to buy a 55 cent DL-DVD than a $30 PC game | Jun 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | as long as that's true, people will use the 55 cent DL-DVD | Jun 12 22:27 |
| yuhong | I know, the artificial scarcity. | Jun 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | really physical media and retail need to die in a fire | Jun 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | alongside DRM | Jun 12 22:27 |
| yuhong | Look for it to be posted on my blog after the school year end. | Jun 12 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Steam without DRM would be an ideal platform | Jun 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | the reason I never buy on Steam is because it will never run without Steam | Jun 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | if Steam dies, you lose your entire 10 year library of video games | Jun 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | that would really suck | Jun 12 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 22:28 |
| yuhong | Stardock always sells it's games DRM-free. | Jun 12 22:28 |
| yuhong | It's Impulse allow DRM though | Jun 12 22:29 |
| Balrog_ | DaemonFC: if steam "dies" there would be a class action lawsuit, I'm afraid | Jun 12 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | to get an injunction for a crack for their DRM? | Jun 12 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | who is left to sue? | Jun 12 22:29 |
| yuhong | Stardock is famous for speaking out against DRM. | Jun 12 22:29 |
| Balrog_ | yea, because if you paid for it you have a right to use it | Jun 12 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | the company in the eyes of the law is like the individual being sued died | Jun 12 22:29 |
| Balrog_ | who? whoever owns the IP | Jun 12 22:29 |
| yuhong | Yea, online activation has the same problem. | Jun 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | so you mean like, if I own company X and publish on Steam, then I as owner of Company X has the responsibility in a lawsuit? | Jun 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's a neat concept | Jun 12 22:30 |
| Balrog_ | no, Steam | Jun 12 22:30 |
| Balrog_ | they own the IP to Steam | Jun 12 22:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "The Lyons’ din" http://ur1.ca/0755y So after Lyons was systematically attacking Linux with FUD (outright) he does Apple | Jun 12 22:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | the game maker doesn't own Steam | Jun 12 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | Valve owns Steam | Jun 12 22:30 |
| Balrog_ | well | Jun 12 22:31 |
| Balrog_ | yea | Jun 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | what if Valve ceases to exist? | Jun 12 22:31 |
| Balrog_ | so it would be whoever owns Valve's IP | Jun 12 22:31 |
| yuhong | http://vintagemacmuseum.blogspot.com/2009/07/activated-software-and-future-data.html | Jun 12 22:31 |
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| Balrog_ | you mean bankrupcy? then it would be the courts | Jun 12 22:31 |
| Balrog_ | bankruptcy * | Jun 12 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I <3 Love @tinyvidtv #ogg #html5 #video | Jun 12 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | heh, the bankruptcy court appointed trustee being sued to remove DRM that Steam put there | Jun 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | that would be epic | Jun 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | but wouldn't you be counted as a creditor then? | Jun 12 22:32 |
| Balrog_ | or keep the servers alive? | Jun 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | and Steam would be immune from you? | Jun 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's kind of an unexplored concept | Jun 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | lots of DRM pushers have died over the years | Jun 12 22:33 |
| yuhong | Stardock's Impulse allow DRM though | Jun 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | nobody ever sues, they just take their losses and go on | Jun 12 22:33 |
| yuhong | Stardock's Impulse allow DRM. | Jun 12 22:33 |
| yuhong | But Stardock is famous for speaking out against DRM and sells it's own game DRM-free. | Jun 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MSN Music's DRM licensing servers are staying up until late 2011 | Jun 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 22:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] That is fame! A little Googling points to FIFA having more members than the UN | Jun 12 22:33 | |
| yuhong | I know that fiasco too. | Jun 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft delayed pulling the plug because they were likely to be sued over it | Jun 12 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | but it's still coming | Jun 12 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | where they have to yank support or issue a tool to remove the DRM | Jun 12 22:34 |
| yuhong | http://kotaku.com/5184001/stardocks-answer-to-drm-goo | Jun 12 22:34 |
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| zoobab | hi from cbase in berlin | Jun 12 22:35 |
| yuhong | Even now, it only require only activation. | Jun 12 22:35 |
| yuhong | Even now, it only require online activation. | Jun 12 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | Goo soudns better than traditional DRM | Jun 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | but traditional DRM was really made to kill the resale market | Jun 12 22:36 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 12 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | forcing everyone to buy an original license from the company | Jun 12 22:36 |
| yuhong | While this DRM don't. | Jun 12 22:36 |
| yuhong | As it is per-person | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates have both said they want a console that doesn't use physical media | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | why do you figure that is? | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | that why they get to DRM everything and sell everyone a "new copy" straight from them | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | there is no "I'll wait for it to be $5 in the used bucket" | Jun 12 22:37 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | the downloadable content on the 360 is already like that | Jun 12 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can only sell the part of the game that's on the disc | Jun 12 22:38 |
| yuhong | I know, first sale. | Jun 12 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the value in owning a console is waiting for used copies of the discs dirt cheap 6-12 months later | Jun 12 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | I think they'll get a nasty surprise in both the reduction in console sales and new game sales | Jun 12 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | if they force everyone to buy every game "new" | Jun 12 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | a console starts looking much less attractive when 4 games already sets you back over $200 | Jun 12 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft's next XBOX will be tantamount to them trying to beat kids up for their lunch money | Jun 12 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | more so than the 360 already is | Jun 12 22:40 |
| yuhong | Stardock's CEO participate in forums as Frogboy/Draginol. | Jun 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | or their parents | Jun 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | probably the parents more these days | Jun 12 22:41 |
| yuhong | http://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/cdacx/whole_foods_kill_the_approval_requirement_for/ | Jun 12 22:41 |
| Techrights | Title: Whole Foods: Kill the approval requirement for forum postings : business .::. Size~: 36.05 KB | Jun 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I was busting my balls selling newspaper subscriptions and delivering a morning and evening edition | Jun 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | to buy all my stuff | Jun 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | now the little porkers jsut have mom and dad buy them everything | Jun 12 22:42 |
| yuhong | I know. | Jun 12 22:42 |
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| kevin009 | wow... the crippleware version of windows 7 is taking over netbooks like a cancer | Jun 12 22:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How you can help ThinkCPP project http://post.ly/jJO6 | Jun 12 22:44 | |
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| kevin009 | just look on the best buy website. that's a lot of people who can't change their wallpaper | Jun 12 22:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IDG's latest Linux FUD discussed and debunked: http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/30748/ | Jun 12 22:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: LXer: Say wha?: Can virtual PCs save desktop Linux? .::. Size~: 17.14 KB | Jun 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i76525 | Jun 12 23:02 |
| Techrights | Title: The Spoof : Linux fans flock in mutual self-congratulation funny satire story .::. Size~: 32.07 KB | Jun 12 23:02 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 12 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://download.cnet.com/RunAsDate/3000-2094_4-10717342.html | Jun 12 23:10 |
| Techrights | Title: RunAsDate - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com .::. Size~: 68.62 KB | Jun 12 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | lmfao | Jun 12 23:10 |
| *DaemonFC runs off to see what all kinds of new freeware this enables | Jun 12 23:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Download.com is pimping Safari | Jun 12 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | 4.5 Stars | Jun 12 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | User rating 3 starts (out of 582 reviews) | Jun 12 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | *stars | Jun 12 23:35 |
| MinceR | what did you expect from cnet? :> | Jun 12 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | their Windows XP SP3 page has the Microsoft description of SP2 | Jun 12 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 23:40 |
| *cubezzz pumps links | Jun 12 23:40 | |
| cubezzz | links is even decent for ftp | Jun 12 23:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @brunomiguel: mostrei o tuxracer a uns miúdos e eles ficaram fascinados. ainda vão usar caixa mágica em full-time no magalhães | Jun 12 23:41 | |
| DaemonFC | http://download.cnet.com/Microsoft-Windows-98-SE/3000-18513_4-12296.html?tag=mncol | Jun 12 23:42 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Windows 98 SE - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com .::. Size~: 59.6 KB | Jun 12 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Download Now | Jun 12 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Tested spyware free | Jun 12 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Is Windows 2000 EOL this month or next month? :P | Jun 12 23:44 |
| cubezzz | is EOL every month :) | Jun 12 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | I have Windows 2000 on my Athlon64 3200+ system | Jun 12 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 23:45 |
| Balrog_ | eww | Jun 12 23:45 |
| Balrog_ | \ | Jun 12 23:45 |
| cubezzz | freedos on a 486 is faster than dosbox on a p3 | Jun 12 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | I liked that one MST3K episode where the woman passed by the window and Crowe says "Windows '57" | Jun 12 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 12 23:46 |
| cubezzz | took a while to learn freedos, but it's worth it | Jun 12 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | July 13 | Jun 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 2000 has a month left to live :P | Jun 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | better upgrade those machines to Vista and from Vista to 7 while the offer is still good | Jun 12 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 23:48 |
| cubezzz | riiight | Jun 12 23:48 |
| cubezzz | will it run on my 486? :) | Jun 12 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's a place I used to work that still uses Windows NT 4 | Jun 12 23:49 |
| Balrog_ | damnsmalllinux will... | Jun 12 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 23:49 |
| cubezzz | Balorg_, already got Basic Linux on it | Jun 12 23:49 |
| cubezzz | it's smaller than DSL | Jun 12 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if KernelEx works on NT 4 | Jun 12 23:49 |
| cubezzz | dual boot with freedos actually | Jun 12 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | if it does, then Firefox and VLC will still run on it :) | Jun 12 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | and many other programs | Jun 12 23:50 |
| MinceR | Balor G? :> | Jun 12 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | Unpatched critical flaws | Jun 12 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | On September 8, 2009, Microsoft skipped patching two of the five security flaws that were addressed in the monthly security update, saying that patching one of the critical security flaws was "infeasible".[95] According to the Microsoft Security Bulletin MS09-048, "The architecture to properly support TCP/IP protection does not exist on Microsoft Windows 2000 systems, making it infeasible to build the fix for Microsoft Wi | Jun 12 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | ndows 2000 Service Pack 4 to eliminate the vulnerability. To do so would require re-architecting a very significant amount of the Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 operating system, [...] there would be no assurance that applications designed to run on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 would continue to operate on the updated system." | Jun 12 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 12 23:51 |
| cubezzz | it just shows you that emulation isn't always the way to go | Jun 12 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, for some insane reason, Microsoft enabled raw sockets on Windows 2000 | Jun 12 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | left the support in all editions of XP | Jun 12 23:52 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, at least run ReactOS or something FOSS | Jun 12 23:52 |
| MinceR | dosbox will let you use newer hw that has no dos drivers, though | Jun 12 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | then closed it again in SP 2 for XP | Jun 12 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | but you can still use it on all editions of Windows Server | Jun 12 23:53 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, can't do 320x200 on the LCD | Jun 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason, Microsoft crippled the TCP half-open connection limit in SP2 as well | Jun 12 23:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 12 23:53 |
| cubezzz | it leaves a big black bar on the bottom | Jun 12 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | so the Event Log is imemdiately crapflooded if you use Bittorrent or some online games :) | Jun 12 23:53 |
| MinceR | i could play Tyrian 2000 with "wavetable" synthesis for music on Intel HDA (which has no synth chip) | Jun 12 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't see why nobody sued them for not patching those issues | Jun 12 23:55 |
| MinceR | iirc | Jun 12 23:55 |
| cubezzz | I should look at 640x350 mode again | Jun 12 23:55 |
| cubezzz | that seemed to work fine in dosbox | Jun 12 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | I would have said "If it's too hard to patch them and we're still in the support lifecycle, then you should just hand over some free XP licenses" | Jun 12 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 12 23:55 |
| cubezzz | you're not understanding DaemonFC, they want to kill old hardware with each update of doze | Jun 12 23:56 |
| cubezzz | so you're endlessly updating | Jun 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | speed along Win2K's death by refusing to honor their own support policy | Jun 12 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's just awesome isn't it? :) | Jun 12 23:57 |
| cubezzz | it's awesome that I'm not using it :) | Jun 12 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | btw, Samsung still has not posted the source code | Jun 12 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | they said it would be in their next site update | Jun 12 23:57 |
| cubezzz | I got GNU+Linux, I got freedos, and next week I get coreboot | Jun 12 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | which was yesterday | Jun 12 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, ReactOS would be nice | Jun 12 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | I would definitely use it if it was even near compatible with Windows | Jun 12 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not | Jun 12 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | you actually still get better results on Linux with Wine | Jun 12 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | unless something happened when I wasn't looking :D | Jun 12 23:58 |
| cubezzz | ok, well I was't advocating ReactOS as much as I was advocating FOSS | Jun 12 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | about the only lasting usefulness of ReactOS will be whatever patches they send in that can be fitted onto Wine | Jun 12 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think ReactOS is ever going to be useful itself | Jun 12 23:59 |
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