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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0 | Jun 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks | Jun 14 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | for? | Jun 14 00:08 |
| cubezzz | most people don't make much money from investments but... | Jun 14 00:08 |
| cubezzz | some fo the richest make a ton from stocks | Jun 14 00:09 |
| cubezzz | some of | Jun 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | any investment that doesn't guarantee at least 4% is not worth looking into | Jun 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | and any investment that guarantees anything is "worth looking into" | Jun 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | suspiciously | Jun 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | con games exist for people that think an investment is not a risk | Jun 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | bonds exist for people that think 1% interest is an investment | Jun 14 00:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Twas Perak RT @aidyadnan: Why suddenly everyone is so oppose of sports betting? http://bit.ly/dB1xHE | Jun 14 00:10 | |
| Techrights | Title: Moral versus profit .::. Size~: 14.74 KB | Jun 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The only investment I've ever done so well as to break even on (accounting for inflation) is Walmart stock | Jun 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | I think I came out a (very) few dollars ahead on that | Jun 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 00:12 |
| cubezzz | most people though just work for their money | Jun 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, paycheck to paycheck | Jun 14 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC | that never got anyone anywhere | Jun 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | except alive for another week | Jun 14 00:12 |
| cubezzz | computers break the rule of inflation | Jun 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 00:13 |
| cubezzz | they get cheaper and cheaper over time | Jun 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | true, and they do more stuff for less money year over year | Jun 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's reverse inflation really | Jun 14 00:13 |
| cubezzz | deflation :) | Jun 14 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Not really. cubezzz | Jun 14 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Not all of computers has reduced in price. | Jun 14 00:14 |
| cubezzz | or stayed about the same | Jun 14 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Some types of software have managed to go the other way. | Jun 14 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Archos 3 Vision does play Ogg and FLAC | Jun 14 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | but Amazon doesn't mention them | Jun 14 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 00:14 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 1200 1992 price: $595 | Jun 14 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Supports MP3, WMA, and WAV audio formats; MPEG 1/2/4, WMV, FLV, AVI, RM" | Jun 14 00:15 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 1200 2010 price: $225 | Jun 14 00:15 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jun 14 00:15 |
| cubezzz | exactly the same thing too | Jun 14 00:15 |
| cubezzz | of course when the stock runs out it's game over | Jun 14 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Newegg has this to say: "Audio Formats MP3/WMA/WAV/OGG/FLAC" | Jun 14 00:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Our fault RT @ThisCJ: RT @timoreilly: Mark Mykleby on the BP oil spill. "I’m the one to blame and I’m sorry." http://nyti.ms/aawFHk | Jun 14 00:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: Op-Ed Columnist - This Time Is Different - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 55.34 KB | Jun 14 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | so does Archos themselves | Jun 14 00:16 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, you pick a bad example | Jun 14 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon has gone out of their way to not mention features | Jun 14 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 00:16 |
| cubezzz | Unix System V with compiler+extras 1989 price $1000 | Jun 14 00:16 |
| cubezzz | Linux with compiler+extras 2010 price: zero | Jun 14 00:16 |
| cubezzz | or cost of broadband | Jun 14 00:17 |
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| DaemonFC | Amazon also hides that the Sansa Fuze plays Ogg and Flac | Jun 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | "# Audio format: MP3, WMA (unprotected and protected), WAV, Audible, Overdrive" | Jun 14 00:17 |
| cubezzz | we need to remember how well off we are | Jun 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | WTF is "Overdrive"? | Jun 14 00:17 |
| cubezzz | it costs more? dunno | Jun 14 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | "Amazon seems to hide the fact that some personal media players support Ogg Vorbis and FLAC, as this product does. Maybe because they're buying Linux from Microsoft (which doesn't own it). :P" | Jun 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | posting it on all players that support it | Jun 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:21 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: Photoshop new versions have got more expensive with time. | Jun 14 00:21 |
| oiaohm | And I cam point to many examples in software where it gone the other way. | Jun 14 00:22 |
| cubezzz | yes remind me why I want to pay for photoshop again? :) | Jun 14 00:23 |
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| cubezzz | seems crazy now | Jun 14 00:23 |
| cubezzz | well AV software of course... | Jun 14 00:24 |
| cubezzz | tax for the stupid | Jun 14 00:24 |
| cubezzz | the world _is_ crazy though | Jun 14 00:24 |
| cubezzz | one time I paid $5 for a hot chocolate | Jun 14 00:25 |
| cubezzz | it was super big but still... | Jun 14 00:25 |
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| cubezzz | I know this one person who lived during the depression era | Jun 14 00:27 |
| cubezzz | he's the most frugal person I know | Jun 14 00:27 |
| cubezzz | he has a car without a radio :) | Jun 14 00:27 |
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| cubezzz | and he cuts his lawn with a non-powered push lawn mower | Jun 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Electronics › "ogg" | Jun 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Did you mean: omg | Jun 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | (Amazon) | Jun 14 00:28 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* does anyone still remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yeA7a0uS3A ? | Jun 14 00:30 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- He-Man: Opening Theme .::. Size~: 106.1 KB | Jun 14 00:30 |
| cubezzz | I'm trying hard to forget :) | Jun 14 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | I remember the pastor at the local church saying the show was evil and written by homosexuals | Jun 14 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 14 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | part of the agenda | Jun 14 00:32 |
| schestowitz | My favourite film of all times (I was a kid, watched it several times at the theatre): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVfgS_iexf0 | Jun 14 00:32 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Ninja Turtles 2 Fight Scenes Part 1 .::. Size~: 83.29 KB | Jun 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | She-Ra is a part of the feminist plot to destroy America | Jun 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | and she likes munching carpet probably | Jun 14 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | (we have it on good authority) | Jun 14 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | (Jesus tells me this) | Jun 14 00:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: she-ra came later | Jun 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | It was lame | Jun 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | And feminine | Jun 14 00:34 |
| cubezzz | skeletor was cool though | Jun 14 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | yes, and Jesus also said that having a pee pee makes you the spawn of Satan | Jun 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: munching bieber? | Jun 14 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't really understand that one for about 10 years | Jun 14 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | but I agree now | Jun 14 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | In Ninja Turtles I like how nobody gets hurt | Jun 14 00:36 |
| schestowitz | They bring swords | Jun 14 00:36 |
| schestowitz | But they all just get kicked eventually | Jun 14 00:36 |
| cubezzz | is that like went a hundred bad guys are shooting at James Bond and they always miss? :) | Jun 14 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | kicking is approved by the US Department of Child Indoctrination | Jun 14 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | stabbing is most certainly not | Jun 14 00:38 |
| cubezzz | and lawn darts | Jun 14 00:38 |
| cubezzz | not approved | Jun 14 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | of course you have to have lawn darts | Jun 14 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise what are lawn gnomes good for? | Jun 14 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | now I know what you're thinking....but steel tipped lawn darts fired from a crossbow will make those lawn gnomes your bitch | Jun 14 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 00:39 |
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| DaemonFC | be glad I don't make childrens toys | Jun 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ60fHT_nmY | Jun 14 00:41 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- She-Ra Intro in German! .::. Size~: 96.1 KB | Jun 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | mine would be designed to weed out the weak and stupid | Jun 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | have to take care of them before they turn into adults | Jun 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | [lame alaert] | Jun 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | Gays don't belong in the military | Jun 14 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | The naming of Alexandria was a coincidence | Jun 14 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:43 |
| cubezzz | wow, ssh does work after all on linux 2.2 | Jun 14 00:43 |
| cubezzz | it's just extremely slow | Jun 14 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | pre-2.6 Linux is fairly ugly | Jun 14 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | all of a sudden, they developed coding standards | Jun 14 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 00:45 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't say that, it's more succinct in 2.2 | Jun 14 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Pre 2.6 they had the standards. It was lack of enforcement of standards. DaemonFC | Jun 14 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | I used the 2.5 branch forever just because 2.4 was so sluggish and prone to panic | Jun 14 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | at least on all my machines | Jun 14 00:46 |
| cubezzz | I've run 2.4 for years | Jun 14 00:46 |
| cubezzz | never had a problem | Jun 14 00:46 |
| oiaohm | On my hardware I had very little problems with 2.2 and 2.4 | Jun 14 00:46 |
| oiaohm | 2.0 I had some issues. | Jun 14 00:46 |
| cubezzz | when did 2.0 come out? | Jun 14 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | 1996 | Jun 14 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | as I understand, it was an almost total rewrite | Jun 14 00:48 |
| cubezzz | I wonder why ssh is so slow to connect here | Jun 14 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | which given Linus being opposed to using major version numbers lightly, makes sense | Jun 14 00:48 |
| cubezzz | it just sits there for a couple of minutes | Jun 14 00:48 |
| oiaohm | 2.0 was the fastest rewrite. | Jun 14 00:49 |
| cubezzz | finally I manage to log in | Jun 14 00:49 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, any ideas why ssh is taking 2 minutes to connect? | Jun 14 00:50 |
| oiaohm | That is odd cubezzz | Jun 14 00:51 |
| cubezzz | it finally works after that | Jun 14 00:51 |
| cubezzz | I never thought it would work at all, but I left it there once and eventually it worked | Jun 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. April... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xyG0JCtDzU&feature=PlayList&p=52787767960042DA&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1 | Jun 14 00:52 |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 303 See Other .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz | They made her kind of fit | Jun 14 00:52 |
| cubezzz | bah | Jun 14 00:53 |
| cubezzz | finally I can run irssi on the 486 | Jun 14 00:53 |
| cubezzz | but the keyboard is so crap it's not worth it | Jun 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | YouTube is fun. Here I am an adult seeing showed I watched almost 20 years ago :-) | Jun 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Almost like running the 386 again... | Jun 14 00:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right thats me done for the night.... "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" | Jun 14 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | Going 10 years back... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YePmikngFRg | Jun 14 00:56 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Dawson's Creek I don't want to wait .::. Size~: 87.77 KB | Jun 14 00:56 |
| cubezzz | well finally solved the internet prob on the 486 | Jun 14 00:57 |
| cubezzz | I can ssh into the p3 then use internet from there | Jun 14 00:57 |
| cubezzz | once I buy a new keyboard I'll just irc from the 486 | Jun 14 00:58 |
| schestowitz | what cpu speed? | Jun 14 00:58 |
| schestowitz | 33? 66? | Jun 14 00:58 |
| cubezzz | ummm checking the manual... | Jun 14 00:58 |
| cubezzz | 50MHz IBM 486SLC2 | Jun 14 00:59 |
| cubezzz | not bad | Jun 14 00:59 |
| oiaohm | And what level ssh | Jun 14 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Becuase you might be asking a little. | Jun 14 00:59 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, not sure | Jun 14 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Please don't be doing 4096 bit key. | Jun 14 00:59 |
| cubezzz | unless it's 4096 out of the box, no way | Jun 14 01:00 |
| cubezzz | it's nice to have another screen | Jun 14 01:00 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, it says "sshd: cubeman@pts/2" | Jun 14 01:01 |
| cubezzz | does that tell you anything? | Jun 14 01:01 |
| cubezzz | never did understand what pts meant | Jun 14 01:01 |
| oiaohm | sshd config file tells you how wide. | Jun 14 01:02 |
| oiaohm | /etc/ssh/sshd_config | Jun 14 01:03 |
| oiaohm | My current is ServerKeyBits 768 | Jun 14 01:03 |
| oiaohm | Note that is a lot wider that want a lot of websites use. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| oiaohm | Also is compression on or off with ssh cubezzz | Jun 14 01:04 |
| cubezzz | #ServerKeyBits 768 | Jun 14 01:05 |
| cubezzz | but it's commented | Jun 14 01:05 |
| cubezzz | again, the compression line is commented | Jun 14 01:06 |
| cubezzz | so whatever the default is, that's what it using | Jun 14 01:06 |
| cubezzz | maybe I'll just leave it logged in | Jun 14 01:08 |
| oiaohm | 768 is about default | Jun 14 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Also if the ssh had to create a key it would have taken a while. | Jun 14 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Ie was it first time? | Jun 14 01:10 |
| cubezzz | it's slow everytime | Jun 14 01:11 |
| cubezzz | i.e. it's slow to connect, but after it connects it works as expected | Jun 14 01:11 |
| cubezzz | it's via plip though | Jun 14 01:11 |
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| cubezzz | aha | Jun 14 01:13 |
| cubezzz | I think I know why | Jun 14 01:14 |
| cubezzz | the web suggests adding: UseDNS no | Jun 14 01:14 |
| cubezzz | why would it use dns for a local ip address anyways | Jun 14 01:15 |
| cubezzz | kind of silly | Jun 14 01:15 |
| cubezzz | ah I know what the real problem is | Jun 14 01:21 |
| cubezzz | it's listening on all local addresses | Jun 14 01:21 |
| cubezzz | bad, still slow | Jun 14 01:24 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, the complete studio albums of Disturbed | Jun 14 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | at these low low prices, you can't afford to not get down with the sickness | Jun 14 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 14 01:44 |
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| *DaemonFC hooks up schestowitz with XBOX 360 Kinect | Jun 14 01:52 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | what a terrible name | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | they should have stuck with Natal | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe Infantile | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | :p | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Project Infantile | Jun 14 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | immature, prone to fail | Jun 14 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | if it works about as well as the console itself and the rest of the accessories, there will be a 80% defect rate and we won't have to put up with it long before it's discontinued | Jun 14 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, should I buy a billion memory cards or a single hard drive that can store everything and speed up my games? | Jun 14 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | or both! | Jun 14 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Why not? Money is all around me. | Jun 14 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Please wait while I go down to the basement and cisel up some gold bricks | Jun 14 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | *chisel | Jun 14 01:56 |
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| DaemonFC | you can get 16 gigs on an SHDC card for $10, but a 512 MB XBOX 260 memory card is $30 | Jun 14 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | you can get a Wireless N adapter for $20, but the Wireless G adapter for the 360 is $100 | Jun 14 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | and so on | Jun 14 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | they put stuff in odd form factors and restrict things that should work from working so they can charge you a 1,000% markup for theirs | Jun 14 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what Project Infantile will set you back | Jun 14 02:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Accelerometer: 50 cents. Plastic casing, wiring, IR tranceiver: $1 Sweatshop Chinese labor: 10 cents. Stamp a Microsoft logo on it, shelf it at Walmart, label it as $99.99, and don't forget to put a block in the XBOX 360 OS to keep the $20 knock offs from popping up. | Jun 14 02:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation is Policing Its Message Using Viewchange.org — to Guard Against Critics http://ur1.ca/07dzo #pr | Jun 14 02:04 | |
| Techrights | Title: Gates Foundation is Policing Its Message Using Viewchange.org to Guard Against Critics | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.18 KB | Jun 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Batteries Not Included. | Jun 14 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Edelman... | Jun 14 02:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC's mates from Wallie | Jun 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Oh yeah, kill XBOX Live if anyone refuses the new firmware that blocks the off-brand accessories. | Jun 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Tell customers this is to protect them from substandard equipment that comes off the same assembly line. | Jun 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Rake in more money. | Jun 14 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | When customers call in saying it's broken, tell them they need to re-attenuate the EM field around their body. The device works fine. | Jun 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Hang up. | Jun 14 02:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Sign agreement to not kill yourself over slave labor conditions. A lot of Americans and Europeans would love to have work right now. You are lucky. | Jun 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | If you're feeling stressed, please go to our soothing music and punch effigy of supervisor room. This lets us know who to fire before they kill the real supervisor. | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | He is important. You are replacable. | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | Easily. | Jun 14 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | So why did they fire you? | Jun 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Did they find something younger, unmarried, and more attractive, as the saying goes | Jun 14 02:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DaemonFC oiaohm This is a good idea making the installer much more user friendly http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/proposed-ubuntu-1010-installer-changes.html | Jun 14 02:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Proposed Ubuntu 10.10 installer changes will make installation faster, friendly, intelligent | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 80.85 KB | Jun 14 02:22 |
| schestowitz | Or did they fund underpaid labour? | Jun 14 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, For best results, make sure you're plugged into a power source. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | That helps.... | Jun 14 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | Who goes to try and install an OS on battery power? | Jun 14 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Who the hell needs this explained to them> | Jun 14 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | they also stole the Mac OS Windows icon | Jun 14 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | which is designed to look bad | Jun 14 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | hurling childish insults is always nice | Jun 14 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | especially in "professional projects" | Jun 14 02:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is taking additional debt and the important tax question returns to haunt this abusive company http://ur1.ca/07e2i | Jun 14 02:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Issues More Debt, Pays Almost No Tax | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.18 KB | Jun 14 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Don't let the user manually partition or choose the file system | Jun 14 02:27 |
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| DaemonFC | just replace it all with another idiot button | Jun 14 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | they need to put less effort onto dumbing down the installer and more effort towards making sure Ubuntu works right once you've installed it | Jun 14 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu seems to find all the things that work right and break them | Jun 14 02:28 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 14 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | also the 10.10 alpha is still 32-bit only | Jun 14 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | because 64-bit users want the most bloated options only | Jun 14 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 02:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2 Posted pics from the Open Computing Showcase & the @partimus meeting http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157624268387948/ | Jun 14 02:37 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/06/meet-shotwell-f-spot-replacement-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+techdrivein+%28Tech+Drive-in%29 | Jun 14 02:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Meet Shotwell - The F-Spot Replacement For Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 38.15 KB | Jun 14 02:45 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows Live 2010: The double your advertising and take up the entire screen to show you your contacts edition. | Jun 14 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 03:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The BD-C5500 source code is posted | Jun 14 03:29 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, You figure vinegar would be safe on power cables? | Jun 14 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | this page says vinegar is a cat repellant, but it's obviously a weak acid | Jun 14 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, according to the Windows Live Messenger license agreement, signing in with Pidgin can get your account banned | Jun 14 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | they went to lengths to emphasize this in the EULA for the upcoming 2010 version | Jun 14 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | the good news is the EULA ugliness is now in plain English | Jun 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | you don't need a law degree to decipher how bad you're getting fucked over by it | Jun 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | HAH!!! | Jun 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The Blu Ray player I have uses XFS for the file system | Jun 14 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | FFMPEG is the MPEG video decoder | Jun 14 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | the Linux kernel used is 2.6.29.9 | Jun 14 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | errr 28.9 that is | Jun 14 03:50 |
| oiaohm | Exactly what wording to do not sign in with pidgin did they use. DaemonFC | Jun 14 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | seems like they heavily patched libptp | Jun 14 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Vinegar no way in hell safe on power. | Jun 14 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | you can't use any messenger other than an approved one | Jun 14 03:51 |
| oiaohm | If you want cat off cables chile paste. | Jun 14 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://messenger.msn.com/Help/Authorized.aspx | Jun 14 03:51 |
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| DaemonFC | if you use one not on that list, you can have your account banned | Jun 14 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | permanently | Jun 14 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | probably not a change of policy, they're just emphasizing the one in place | Jun 14 03:52 |
| oiaohm | Ok I don't is a linux client there. | Jun 14 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | they gave Symantec a license so that it can act as a filtering proxy I suspect | Jun 14 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | the others are either unauthorized or just scan transferred files as they would any other new file on the disk | Jun 14 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung is also using uClibC | Jun 14 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't make an easy to read changelog | Jun 14 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | looks like they just lobbed in the source in entirety and whatever they've modded is left to be discovered | Jun 14 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | typical | Jun 14 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | they lived up to the wording of the license, but didn't make it easy to figure out what they did among the million lines of code | Jun 14 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 03:57 |
| oiaohm | Ok they still could be in breach. | Jun 14 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | how so? | Jun 14 03:57 |
| oiaohm | GPL section of it does contain wording that you are ment to record you chanages. | Jun 14 03:58 |
| oiaohm | Particularly that your version cannot be under the same version number as a different version at least. | Jun 14 03:58 |
| oiaohm | If you ship it. | Jun 14 03:59 |
| oiaohm | So they have handed the stuff over now? DaemonFC | Jun 14 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | yes, 311 MB zip file | Jun 14 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | containing everything covered by GPL or LGPL | Jun 14 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://opensource.samsung.com/ | Jun 14 04:00 |
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| DaemonFC | BD-C5500 N/A 10_bd-c5500 2010.06.14 | Jun 14 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | under TV & Video | Jun 14 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They also have to post the source for every firmware update they build | Jun 14 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | I may have some fun with them over this | Jun 14 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | this firmware says it is the 4th revision | Jun 14 04:02 |
| oiaohm | I guess if you called tech support today you might get the right directions. | Jun 14 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | It was only released in Feb | Jun 14 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | the player that is | Jun 14 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's more than 1 revision per month | Jun 14 04:02 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. | Jun 14 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect they have to revision it often since new discs come out all the time | Jun 14 04:03 |
| oiaohm | reversion numbers start counting before the device is even in production. | Jun 14 04:03 |
| oiaohm | I would say 1 ever 2 months would be about right. | Jun 14 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, a reviewer on Amazon says he bought it in February and he's gotten 4 updates | Jun 14 04:03 |
| oiaohm | Boy | Jun 14 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | so that corresponds with the 4 revisions as stated in the firmware code | Jun 14 04:03 |
| oiaohm | that a lot. | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | so that's 4 updates after the player shipped | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | apparently the original firmware liked to freeze up a lot | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | and now the revised firmware does not | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | also, they had to issue the May update over Avatar | Jun 14 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | which did not apply cleanly I might add | Jun 14 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | I had to yank the power cord and plug it back in before Avatar would play, after the upgrade | Jun 14 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | reboot caused the disc to play but the video and sound were corrupted | Jun 14 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | and randomly it gave out and said to upgrade the player :D | Jun 14 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | so the 4th revision was probably a fairly invasive update | Jun 14 04:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @caro84g: Started reading Jono Bacon's Art of community book in the plane... it's a really good book and it's FUN to read :) | Jun 14 05:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Jun 14 05:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/16110171724 ".@schestowitz Gates Foundation 2 purposes: reputation laundering, & hurting civilisation in guise of good i.e. continuing #Microsoft mission" | Jun 14 06:44 |
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| schestowitz | He will love my next 4 posts about it | Jun 14 06:44 |
| schestowitz | Nice... [04:00] <DaemonFC> http://opensource.samsung.com/ | Jun 14 06:45 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | with unsigned themes, all kinds of possibilities open up :D | Jun 14 06:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading to bed. Hopefully will feel better tomorrow. Night, all! | Jun 14 07:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] Finally, got a vodaphone prepaid data only sim for au$29 with 1g data. Sweet! #fb | Jun 14 07:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/143521 "useful maybe- nice stuff i haven't seen lessig talk about yet, some very old authors skeptical of licensing/copyright http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/04/09/05" | Jun 14 07:21 |
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| schestowitz | I appreciate his endeavours fighting political corruption | Jun 14 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Dear Ryan Farmer, | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for your patience. | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | We uploaded open source package at downloadable website.( http://opensource.samsung.com ) | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Select 'TV & Video' category, and find model name by BD-C5500. | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Please contact us if you have any problems to get open source package. | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you for continuous interest in our product. | Jun 14 07:35 |
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| DaemonFC | Kindly Regards, | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaemonFC | I was kind of surprised to see some of the choices they has made for certain tasks | Jun 14 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | *had | Jun 14 07:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #comScore — Paid by #Microsoft — Finally Admits Its Figures Are Bogus, Gamed http://ur1.ca/07fc3 #search #google | Jun 14 07:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] Aussie English? #fb http://ur1.ca/07fc9 | Jun 14 07:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] If We Ran The World - http://bit.ly/aikF4k interesting: apply open source modularity to personal philanthropy #opensource | Jun 14 07:45 | |
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| cubezzz | looks like your complaints paid off | Jun 14 07:47 |
| cubezzz | 310 megs, that's a lot of code | Jun 14 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, There's one thing Bing does better than Google | Jun 14 07:53 |
| cubezzz | oh? | Jun 14 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | other than play porn for kids without the filtering software being any the wiser | Jun 14 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | image search | Jun 14 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed Bing doesn't lead you to rope-a-dope websites like Google does | Jun 14 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | and Bing can give you images matchign your display resolution by clicking "wallpaper" | Jun 14 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Google tends to send you to parking sites that don't actually offer the image you clicked on | Jun 14 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | so when I'm doing a web search I use Google, but when I'm browsing images I use Bing | Jun 14 07:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Groklaw Compares Microsoft to “Well-known Womanizer” http://ur1.ca/07ffc CBS: "Microsoft has never been a technology company” | Jun 14 07:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, At least Walmart sends actual product when they do disaster relief donations | Jun 14 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose you could eat a Windows DVD but it probably wouldn't sustain you for long :D | Jun 14 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | I remember FEMA turned away truckloads of canend food and bottled drinking water that Walmart sent for Katrina victims | Jun 14 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | then FEMA proceeded to let people go hungry and without clean water to drink for days while the police went in there and disarmed peaceful civilians who wanted only to protect their property from looters | Jun 14 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | FEMA was the real disaster with Katrina | Jun 14 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | you almost have to wonder how many people needlessly died after the storm was over just because FEMA was preventing disaster relief supplies from arriving | Jun 14 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/06/cirque-du-soleil-helps-microsoft-in-creating-a-kinect-experience-in-la/1 | Jun 14 08:11 |
| Techrights | Title: Cirque du Soleil helps Microsoft in creating a Kinect experience in L.A. - Game Hunters: In search of video games and interactive awesomeness - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 29.77 KB | Jun 14 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft can hire Cirque du Soleil to do advertising for them, but they can't make a decent product? | Jun 14 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/198692/seamicros_cloud_server_sports_512_atom_processors.html | Jun 14 08:13 |
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| DaemonFC | whoa | Jun 14 08:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Facebook and #Microsoft Integrated Further http://ur1.ca/07fir going further not just in the financial sense | Jun 14 08:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/12/AR2010061200169.html?hpid=sec-tech | Jun 14 08:14 |
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| DaemonFC | Someone's not impressed with Office Web Apps | Jun 14 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't prefer to use Fog computing, but Google's online office stuff is pretty good | Jun 14 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | "But at least none of this inadequacy costs anything." | Jun 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Aside from your inability to use the saved file in the future (broken OOXML just like Office uses) | Jun 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | he calls OOo ugly | Jun 14 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's not ugly | Jun 14 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | "Some of those omissions make sense. PowerPoint, for example, doesn't necessarily need the real thing's array of between-slides transition effects. But some defy logic. Word lets you write text from right to left but lacks a word count and a footnoting tool. And Excel provides nearly zero help with composing formulas, one of the most basic functions of a spreadsheet." | Jun 14 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | Me distinctly remembers Word 6 in Windows 3.1 supporting word count and footnoting | Jun 14 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Jun 14 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | /me | Jun 14 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | so what gives? | Jun 14 08:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Gary McKinnon and Flat Earth News - http://bit.ly/914Qvl brilliant conclusion to a provocative series: a question of mercy #law | Jun 14 08:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Alerts IDG About “Microsoft Allegedly Trying to Derail IBM by Using #SCO as a Surrogate.” http://ur1.ca/07fle #gnu #linux #novell | Jun 14 08:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Zynga Goes To The Mattresses With Mafia Wars Users - http://tcrn.ch/aK8wYP showing the teeth behind the smile #zynga | Jun 14 08:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and the Gates Foundation Inherit More Roles of the US Department of Education http://ur1.ca/07ft3 | Jun 14 09:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] yeah! Car dock, desktop dock for my nexus one are here! | Jun 14 09:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Your Chance To Change OSI - http://bit.ly/ahjPZx excellent description of what needs to be done #opensource #osi | Jun 14 09:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Semantic Web Comes to Social Change - http://bit.ly/bJs1ir hmm, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation backing open source, it seems | Jun 14 09:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] whoops - that last link via @schestowitz | Jun 14 09:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Meet Shotwell - The F-Spot Replacement For Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" - http://bit.ly/9i9W5M does not use Mono... #ubuntu #mono | Jun 14 09:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Evening Standard almost in profit after going free - http://bit.ly/aMWXKp yeah, you can't make money giving stuff away (via @tom_watson) | Jun 14 09:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "Yes its delicious and I love it!" RT @weikim @myPopIN: "Is Chinese penis really that good?" Nabila recounts harassment http://bit.ly/9J8146 | Jun 14 09:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Doc told me to run for an hour, 3 times a week. Frak! That's 10km a session! There goes my knees. | Jun 14 09:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Big Financial Link Between #Fraunhofer and #Microsoft : The Gates Foundation http://ur1.ca/07g0j #washington | Jun 14 09:51 | |
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| MinceR | hay | Jun 14 09:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/5fFC3WNzwd8/Ubuntu-Replaces-F-Spot-With-Shotwell | Jun 14 09:55 |
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| Diablo-D3 | where is schestowitz | Jun 14 09:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | he must read this | Jun 14 09:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] How does “public service” work for media and culture in the 21st century? - http://bit.ly/cW3lTW good question #media #culture | Jun 14 10:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: old news | Jun 14 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Jun 14 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck you, damnit. | Jun 14 10:10 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ubuntu drops another Mono app because its bloated, featureless, and crashes a lot http://ur1.ca/07g64 | Jun 14 10:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @ivanka http://design.canonical.com/2010/06/when-new-users-first-encounter-ubuntu-5-show-stoppers/ #ubuntu #research | Jun 14 10:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Xbox 360 gets Kinect, the official name replacing Natal - http://tinyurl.com/37e5wof #kinect #natal #wii #nintendo #ps3 #microsoft #mvp | Jun 14 10:21 | |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.toptechnews.com/news/EU-Decries-Proprietary-Software/story.xhtml?story_id=023001CPSIPP&full_skip=1 | Jun 14 10:21 |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.toptechnews.com/news/EU-Decries-Proprietary-Software/story.xhtml?story_id=023001CPSIPP&full_skip=1 | Jun 14 10:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Meant to say.... Openbytes can now be found at www.openbytes.co.cc as well as the standard wordpress url. #linux #foss #gnu | Jun 14 10:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Tickets for our Ubuntu In Business event next month are going fast! http://bit.ly/UbuntuBusiness Advocates, Bring your boss! | Jun 14 10:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Re freedom hater, it is inflammatory and comes over as unreasonable, what is wrong with "lock in advocate"? | Jun 14 10:31 | |
| schestowitz | [10:10] <Diablo-D3> fuck you, damnit. | Jun 14 10:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm not into men, sorry | Jun 14 10:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Judge deals possibly final blow to SCO over Linux - http://news.cnet.com/business-tech/?tag=hdr;snav #linux | Jun 14 10:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera I like the idea | Jun 14 10:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Xbox 360 gets Kinect, the official name replacing Natal - http://tinyurl.com/37e5wof #kinect #natal #microsoft #mvp (RT: For kinect tag) | Jun 14 10:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] As everyone gets "excited"? by #Kinect ,lets see remind ourselves of some 360 fun: http://tinyurl.com/ombolq Kinect , can't wait..... #xbox | Jun 14 10:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AOL Denies Being Open to Microsoft Takeover, Ruby on Rails Founder Calls Microsoft a “Buffoon”/“Gorilla” Due to Its CEO http://ur1.ca/07gcj | Jun 14 10:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Wonder if North Korea would be as entertaining as Oz. | Jun 14 11:10 | |
| Yfrwlf | The stuff about Windows in education isn't at all shocking for many reasons. Kids are big fat corporate targets, but I'm also not surprised because I've seen it myself directly as an employee of a school district. | Jun 14 11:10 |
| Yfrwlf | You get to see how incredibly corrupt and sold out the department heads are working at that proximity... | Jun 14 11:11 |
| Yfrwlf | Oooh, you give $100,000 in kickbacks for YOUR piece of shit software?? AWESOME, lets do it! | Jun 14 11:12 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/run-any-application-on-chrome-os/2186 | Jun 14 11:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Spreads Lies in a New For-Profit Scare Campaign http://techrights.org/2010/06/14/web-browsers-scare-campaigns/ | Jun 14 11:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] How to get more interoperability in Europe (Figures and graphics available in PDF and Microsoft WORD!!!) http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 11:14 | |
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| Yfrwlf | Chroning...oiy give me a break | Jun 14 11:14 |
| Yfrwlf | that's not running native apps, that's remote desktop | Jun 14 11:14 |
| sebsebseb | Yfrwlf: yep | Jun 14 11:14 |
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| Yfrwlf | Google should have focused on Linux as a standard platform instead, not throwing yet *another* Google OS into the mix with totally incomaptible standards. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I saw that link | Jun 14 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Yfrwlf: doctors are the same (medical) | Jun 14 11:16 |
| Yfrwlf | Yeah, well, everyone is the same. :P You don't get into a position of any kind of power unless you're corrupt heh. | Jun 14 11:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Into tennis? RT @jasurin: Your love life receives a boost when popular Venus enters your... http://twittascope.com/?sign=3 | Jun 14 11:17 | |
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| Yfrwlf | That's the sad truth. | Jun 14 11:17 |
| Yfrwlf | Capitalism has made it so unless you care about ONLY money and nothing else, no one will want you. | Jun 14 11:17 |
| schestowitz | People judge people by bank balance | Jun 14 11:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab How to get more interoperability in Europe (Figures and graphics available in PDF and Microsoft WORD!!!) http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 11:18 | |
| Yfrwlf | So anyone who gives a damn about *free* things, whether it be free OSes, or underdogs in general who DON'T have lots of money, will be surpassed by those caring about money instead. | Jun 14 11:18 |
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| Yfrwlf | right | Jun 14 11:18 |
| schestowitz | When society gets regarded and recognised for wealth and not deeds, it's dog-eat-dog | Jun 14 11:18 |
| schestowitz | *rewarded | Jun 14 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Not regarded | Jun 14 11:18 |
| schestowitz | The thing is, money buys influenceS | Jun 14 11:18 |
| Yfrwlf | Right, so the whole system itself encourages corruption. | Jun 14 11:18 |
| schestowitz | So if 10 teachers oppose a principal whom Gates bribed with $1 million, they have no chance | Jun 14 11:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] U.S. Identifies Vast Riches of Minerals in Afghanistan - http://nyti.ms/9rPPfR plus comments from Charlie Stross - http://bit.ly/cixkwB | Jun 14 11:19 | |
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| schestowitz | In fact, they can get canned | Jun 14 11:19 |
| Yfrwlf | and without democracy being there in strong force to keep it in check, you're screwed | Jun 14 11:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you got the video twice on the browser link | Jun 14 11:19 |
| cubezzz | "includes FreeDOS with their n-series desktops. The firm has been criticized for making these machines no cheaper, and harder to buy than identical systems with Windows." | Jun 14 11:19 |
| cubezzz | Dell Hell | Jun 14 11:19 |
| schestowitz | So the US finally found those resources of mass destruction then | Jun 14 11:19 |
| Yfrwlf | Oh god, don't get me started on Dell. | Jun 14 11:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: one is ogg | Jun 14 11:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "Freedom of expression is a hallmark of democracy and safeguarded jealously if Malaysia is to be a democratic nation" http://bit.ly/c9I6NC | Jun 14 11:20 | |
| Yfrwlf | Half their machines with Linux don't even come up in their search. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, interesting | Jun 14 11:20 |
| Yfrwlf | And get this, a Dell representative told me via chat that they DID NOT SELL LINUX. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| cubezzz | fine | Jun 14 11:20 |
| Yfrwlf | Then, I went and dug up about 8 computers with Linux. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| schestowitz | http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/putin-turns-down-michael-dells-aid-offer-at-davos/ | Jun 14 11:20 |
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| cubezzz | I don't sell it either :) | Jun 14 11:20 |
| Yfrwlf | While the Dell rep told me they were out of stock, which was a lie. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| Yfrwlf | Why would the blatantly lie to me about their offerings? | Jun 14 11:20 |
| cubezzz | no, I think he's just a dumbass not a liar | Jun 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh | Jun 14 11:21 |
| Yfrwlf | It's all because Dell doesn't get the Microsoft and other costly software kickbacks when they sell a computer without that software, so they try very hard to make sure you buy all that crap. | Jun 14 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and that video uhmm not sure what that is about etc | Jun 14 11:21 |
| cubezzz | Yfrwlf, I don't buy anything now unless it's on the coreboot list | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Retaliation | Jun 14 11:22 |
| cubezzz | that pretty much excludes Dell | Jun 14 11:22 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: think of context of the post | Jun 14 11:22 |
| cubezzz | but it's good to be reminded why one shouldn't buy Dell | Jun 14 11:23 |
| amarsh04 | how is that list going, cubezzz? I've had trouble finding new anything that they've listed | Jun 14 11:23 |
| Yfrwlf | cubezzz , that's a good idea, last time I tried finding mobos that supported it I had a hard time though but hopefully things are getting better | Jun 14 11:23 |
| MinceR | dell hardware isn't worth buying anyway | Jun 14 11:23 |
| cubezzz | 222 boards now | Jun 14 11:23 |
| cubezzz | http://coreboot.org | Jun 14 11:23 |
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| cubezzz | amarsh04, I have multiple boards I'm still waiting for, the first board was DOA | Jun 14 11:23 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: the advert on the other link, best IE 8 advert I seen so far | Jun 14 11:24 |
| cubezzz | so I'm stalled | Jun 14 11:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however yeah IE 8 shame they are allowing that in Europe on TV | Jun 14 11:24 |
| sebsebseb | adverts for it in a way | Jun 14 11:24 |
| Yfrwlf | MinceR, Dell does indeed suck, but it's very angering none-the-less that Dell, HP, Lenovo, and all the other major makers have buried an alternative that many consumers would choose and save money on if it weren't for their anticompetitive practices | Jun 14 11:24 |
| sebsebseb | and as part of the brwoser ballot, with fake IE shells | Jun 14 11:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 14 11:24 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I read all the lines, please highlight only if it's urgent (I got obnoxious popups) | Jun 14 11:24 |
| sebsebseb | better people use IE 8 than IE 7 or 6 though, but ideally Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Chomeium and so on, all better | Jun 14 11:24 |
| MinceR | lenovo doesn't seem to offer gnu/linux at all | Jun 14 11:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Economics of Copyright - http://bit.ly/9WELl0 important: a first stab at understanding them #copyright #economics | Jun 14 11:25 | |
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| sebsebseb | obnoxious popups? | Jun 14 11:25 |
| MinceR | which is sad considering that they seem to have a clue about how to build laptops | Jun 14 11:25 |
| cubezzz | Yfrwlf, the coreboot guys offered me free motherboards as long as I help them port coreboot to it | Jun 14 11:25 |
| cubezzz | and pay shipping | Jun 14 11:25 |
| Yfrwlf | That's because Lenovo was IBM, and Thinkpads were good AFAIK. | Jun 14 11:25 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: highlight people's names only if it's very necessary | Jun 14 11:26 |
| Yfrwlf | cubezzz, wow nice deal :D | Jun 14 11:26 |
| Yfrwlf | Lenovo still sells the Thinkpad line | Jun 14 11:26 |
| Yfrwlf | IBM sells used Thinkpads. :P | Jun 14 11:26 |
| cubezzz | and once I realized LCD's couldn't do 320x200 I started to fix my old 486 :) | Jun 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | running freedos/Linux | Jun 14 11:27 |
| Yfrwlf | I just use DOSbox :P hehe | Jun 14 11:28 |
| Yfrwlf | but having the old gear is indeed fun sometimes | Jun 14 11:28 |
| Yfrwlf | like when I hooked an Atiri up to the 55" HDTV I had a while back, that was awesome :P | Jun 14 11:28 |
| cubezzz | have you ever compared dosbox to freeods? | Jun 14 11:29 |
| cubezzz | the speed difference is considerable | Jun 14 11:29 |
| Yfrwlf | nope sorry, is one superior? | Jun 14 11:29 |
| cubezzz | freedos is much faster | Jun 14 11:29 |
| Yfrwlf | no doubt | Jun 14 11:29 |
| Yfrwlf | but fortunately my computers are fast enough to play even the fairly intensive DOS games on it | Jun 14 11:29 |
| Yfrwlf | but if you have old hardware, then yes, FreeDOS no doubt would be better | Jun 14 11:29 |
| cubezzz | I've completely rethought my ideas about "old" | Jun 14 11:30 |
| cubezzz | plus it was silly running dosbox on my server | Jun 14 11:31 |
| Yfrwlf | well if you mean that the newer = better mentality is silly, you're right to some degree of course, older hardware has some features about it that are good, like the simple fact that really old circuit boards you could actually work on and fix if they had problems | Jun 14 11:32 |
| cubezzz | exactly | Jun 14 11:32 |
| Yfrwlf | So freedom-wise, newer stuff can lock you in a lot more easily than older stuff, depending. | Jun 14 11:32 |
| Yfrwlf | And hardware definitely shouldn't just be throw-away | Jun 14 11:33 |
| Yfrwlf | the whole throw-away mentality is annoying too | Jun 14 11:33 |
| Yfrwlf | hell, automakers want you to have throw-away cars | Jun 14 11:33 |
| cubezzz | the EV1 was throw away _and_ crush | Jun 14 11:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Indian Railway Network Coverage on OSM - http://bit.ly/dk5Ntw I have fond memories of riding the trains to Jammu.... #india #trains #osm | Jun 14 11:34 | |
| Yfrwlf | it's like um, wait, how about I buy something that, you know, actually lasts and is good quality? Oh wait, then you couldn't sell me something else in two years! | Jun 14 11:34 |
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| Yfrwlf | lol yeah | Jun 14 11:34 |
| cubezzz | Yfrwlf, they could sell parts | Jun 14 11:34 |
| Yfrwlf | oil industry was like QUICK, THROW MONEY AT THEM, and they were never heard from again | Jun 14 11:34 |
| cubezzz | ditto for computer manufacturers | Jun 14 11:34 |
| cubezzz | this 486 to my right is 17 years old, works perfect | Jun 14 11:34 |
| cubezzz | I use to think _this_ box was old | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Yfrwlf | cubezzz, oh I'm not denying that companies could still exist AND make quality goods, they just don't want to, all about money, as is the theme for...well, for everything. :P | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Yfrwlf | except OSS. :D | Jun 14 11:35 |
| Yfrwlf | to a degree :P | Jun 14 11:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody Haiti too | Jun 14 11:36 | |
| oiaohm | OSS is also about the money Yfrwlf | Jun 14 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Greed rules most human actions. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| Yfrwlf | I had an 8086 and 8088 but they're gone now unfortunately | Jun 14 11:36 |
| oiaohm | 8088 was about greed | Jun 14 11:36 |
| Yfrwlf | That's why I amended my statement at the last minute :D | Jun 14 11:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Data-intensive Science: The JISC I2S2 project - http://bit.ly/9uVqwV why #opendata is becoming a priority #science | Jun 14 11:37 | |
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| oiaohm | 8086 was a true 16 bit processor. | Jun 14 11:37 |
| cubezzz | I still have a 8085 :) | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | 8088 was really the first sx processor. | Jun 14 11:37 |
| MinceR | Free Software isn't about greed though :> | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Yfrwlf | but the "open" movements of course are usually about the opposite, which of course overlaps with OSS | Jun 14 11:37 |
| cubezzz | it works too | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Yfrwlf | hehe | Jun 14 11:37 |
| Yfrwlf | there's so many interesting open movements around now, it's awesome | Jun 14 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Even a lot of open movements are about profit just other ways. | Jun 14 11:38 |
| Yfrwlf | open hardware, open software, open invention, open science, open education.. | Jun 14 11:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz really? interesting | Jun 14 11:39 | |
| Yfrwlf | there will always be, yes, but if the profit does actually help them, that part of it is good, but if intentions are negative of course that's bad. | Jun 14 11:39 |
| Yfrwlf | I don't mind money helping the development of some projects for instance. | Jun 14 11:39 |
| Yfrwlf | Donations are good.. | Jun 14 11:39 |
| Yfrwlf | money can be good. | Jun 14 11:39 |
| Yfrwlf | But the *system* is broken, regaredless. | Jun 14 11:39 |
| cubezzz | Yfrwlf, another reason why I resurrected the 486 and put freedos on was I had wrote a number of dos programs | Jun 14 11:39 |
| Yfrwlf | all the greediepoofaces have risen to the top :P | Jun 14 11:40 |
| cubezzz | so it was logical to go FOSS, I had all the code still | Jun 14 11:40 |
| oiaohm | For a long time Open source did not care about the desktop at all. | Jun 14 11:40 |
| oiaohm | Super computers and more interesting fields paid more. | Jun 14 11:40 |
| Yfrwlf | cubezzz, cool, I never programmed DOS, but Commadore 64 was fun :D | Jun 14 11:40 |
| oiaohm | Yes greed has effected the path of open source | Jun 14 11:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Music industry lobbyist calls for death penalty for piracy - http://bit.ly/cjztF3 give them enough rope... (via @teirdes) #piracy | Jun 14 11:41 | |
| cubezzz | well... | Jun 14 11:41 |
| Techrights | Title: Music industry lobbyist calls for death penalty for piracy - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 17.76 KB | Jun 14 11:41 |
| cubezzz | it's fun | Jun 14 11:41 |
| cubezzz | I could never go back to closed source | Jun 14 11:41 |
| Yfrwlf | oiaohm, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse | Jun 14 11:41 |
| Yfrwlf | er money that is, *greed* isn't ever good tho, by the defintiion of the term :P | Jun 14 11:42 |
| cubezzz | there's a lot of new stuff I don't like | Jun 14 11:42 |
| cubezzz | I don't even bother looking at computer stores any more | Jun 14 11:42 |
| Yfrwlf | I bought an N900 :P | Jun 14 11:42 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0607/600-killed-month-darfur/ Nobody notices | Jun 14 11:43 |
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| Yfrwlf | computer stores are poop yeah | Jun 14 11:43 |
| cubezzz | now in the 80's it was different | Jun 14 11:43 |
| cubezzz | we had Amigas | Jun 14 11:43 |
| Yfrwlf | and usually more expensive than online | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Here 80's were not much better. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, you guys had Amiga though right? | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | I was doing order from cat because local stores suxed in the 80's. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Nop cubezzz | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Amiga first turned up in my area in 1996 as a oddity. | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | No one had seen one before. | Jun 14 11:44 |
| Yfrwlf | oh and then there was the Acorn :P | Jun 14 11:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Music industry lobbyist calls for death penalty for piracy - http://bit.ly/cjztF3 give them enough rope... (via @teirdes) | Jun 14 11:45 | |
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| oiaohm | Never saw them either Yfrwlf | Jun 14 11:45 |
| Yfrwlf | LOL | Jun 14 11:45 |
| Yfrwlf | DEATH TO INFORMATION COPIERS | Jun 14 11:45 |
| schestowitz | BEHEAD all file sharers! | Jun 14 11:45 |
| cubezzz | wtf? | Jun 14 11:45 |
| Yfrwlf | omg I'm on the Internet, I've already violated it | Jun 14 11:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I agree that piracy deserves death sentence sometimes... but REAL piracy, not sharing of files | Jun 14 11:46 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: joke | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | microbee's pc's c64 and a few other odds ones. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| Yfrwlf | I dun wanna commit suicide *pout* | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | I forgot 1 trs80 | Jun 14 11:46 |
| Yfrwlf | every time you access a website, you *gasp* copy that entire site. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| *cubezzz watches A Taste of Armageddon on VHS | Jun 14 11:46 | |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jun 14 11:46 |
| cubezzz | yeah the whole internet is one big copy machine | Jun 14 11:47 |
| Yfrwlf | Firefox was deleting Flash files out of its cache once they were fully loaded... | Jun 14 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Note I just basically listed all the computer types I had seen up until 1996. cubezzz | Jun 14 11:47 |
| Yfrwlf | Internet is about sharing, that's what you *do*, to connect to servers that *share things*, hehe | Jun 14 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Basically backwater. | Jun 14 11:48 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, let me guess, no zaurus either right? | Jun 14 11:48 |
| oiaohm | heard of them never seen one of them until 2000. cubezzz | Jun 14 11:48 |
| oiaohm | At least today we are starting to see android phones. | Jun 14 11:49 |
| schestowitz | eyes, ears=signal sharing | Jun 14 11:49 |
| Yfrwlf | lots and lots of Linux phones | Jun 14 11:49 |
| Yfrwlf | yep | Jun 14 11:49 |
| Yfrwlf | invite a friend over to watch a movie with you | Jun 14 11:49 |
| Yfrwlf | and the MPAA will be standing at your door | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | You go into the telstra shop its still 80 percent Microsoft phones. | Jun 14 11:49 |
| Yfrwlf | and demand ticketing money from your friend for the movie | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Yes our biggest phone carriors shop. Yfrwlf | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | They delayed android because there website was only windows mobile compadible. | Jun 14 11:50 |
| Yfrwlf | oiaohm: that's really sad | Jun 14 11:50 |
| Yfrwlf | well there's only one answer for that | Jun 14 11:50 |
| Yfrwlf | they have strong deals with Microsoft to push their phones | Jun 14 11:50 |
| cubezzz | windows, what's that? | Jun 14 11:50 |
| Yfrwlf | wonder how much they get paid to do so | Jun 14 11:51 |
| cubezzz | is that an operating system? | Jun 14 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Australia is the country with the Most Microsoft usage per head of population. | Jun 14 11:51 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jun 14 11:51 |
| cubezzz | wow, I had no idea it was that bad | Jun 14 11:51 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0612/missing-cop-killed-marine-making-pass-girlfriend-charged-murder/ | Jun 14 11:51 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: Pearly@Perth | Jun 14 11:51 |
| Yfrwlf | Hmm well in that case it might be because of customer expectations, but still, that's really crazy. Don't worry! Linux phones will infiltrate eventually, can't be ignored for forever | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Android~=Linux | Jun 14 11:52 |
| Yfrwlf | true | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | It's bettr than some other Linux-based platforms | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | it's 'open' further up the stack | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | WebOS is just Linux with proprietary junk on top | Jun 14 11:52 |
| oiaohm | The market is moving here. | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Not sure about LiMo's GUIs | Jun 14 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Which also have patents and stuff | Jun 14 11:52 |
| Yfrwlf | at least Meego/Meamo can run standard Linux apps, while Android is firewalled and has to run it's own totally different apps.. | Jun 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz | I see many Linux adverts on TCs... phones with Linux | Jun 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz | More friends of mine use these too.... and Google/Apache | Jun 14 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Yfrwlf: yes, meego would be OK, but Novell harms it | Jun 14 11:53 |
| cubezzz | 486 with IDE-CF when the hard drive goes | Jun 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | And it's ibfected by Intel | Jun 14 11:54 |
| cubezzz | it's a miracle this 17 year old hard drive still works | Jun 14 11:54 |
| Yfrwlf | Just give me a damn phone that I can install any normal Linux distro on. :P That's my goal. | Jun 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Nokia hates Ogg, loves swpats | Jun 14 11:54 |
| cubezzz | Nokia was most green though | Jun 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jun 14 11:54 |
| cubezzz | out of all computer companies | Jun 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Greepeace | Jun 14 11:54 |
| schestowitz | *n | Jun 14 11:54 |
| Yfrwlf | schestowitz: I know...don't remind me =( But it might still be okayish, depending, not sure.. | Jun 14 11:54 |
| Yfrwlf | At least Gnome isn't completely overrun with Mono | Jun 14 11:55 |
| oiaohm | QT developers are working to level platforms. | Jun 14 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Gnome is slowly fighting back Yfrwlf | Jun 14 11:55 |
| cubezzz | I don't care as long as I have docs/source code | Jun 14 11:55 |
| cubezzz | e.g. I don't really like KDE 4+ | Jun 14 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Vala project is starting to gain ground against the mono camp. Just as the disgrunted Gnome developers expected. | Jun 14 11:55 |
| cubezzz | but I have KDE 3.4, 3.5 source code, so no problem | Jun 14 11:55 |
| Yfrwlf | oiaohm: I really love that about Qt, that they're trying for cross-platform standards. Standards = <3 | Jun 14 11:55 |
| Yfrwlf | will have to look up Vala, but that's great to hear | Jun 14 11:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Squee! Poesy is officially the luckiest 2-y-o in the world: http://flic.kr/p/8aeyAt #pinkwater | Jun 14 11:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Japan for bribing small nations with cash and prostitutes to gain their support for the mass slaughter of whales." http://ur1.ca/07gou | Jun 14 11:57 | |
| Yfrwlf | I don't care for the KDE interface either in many ways, but for little things, I just hate the slab menu for instance though I think there's an option to switch to a branch menu? | Jun 14 11:57 |
| Techrights | Title: HOLY CRAP! Signed Daniel and Jill Pinkwater book for Poesy, the office, Clerkenwell, London, UK on Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 51.58 KB | Jun 14 11:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Revealed: Japan’s bribes on whaling - Times Online .::. Size~: 92.9 KB | Jun 14 11:57 |
| Yfrwlf | and I still can't figure out the window with the icons in it on the desktop :P | Jun 14 11:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Small world. Passing through Schipol airport on way back home from Berlin and pass US NB HoD on way to Helsinki. #sc34 | Jun 14 11:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0613/bush-daughter-health-right-everyone/ | Jun 14 11:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Bush daughter: Health care should be a right for everyone | Raw Story .::. Size~: 41.12 KB | Jun 14 11:58 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know what she even looked like | Jun 14 11:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mozilla issues final Thunderbird 3.1 release candidate - http://bit.ly/bCr5Co </insert "Thunderbirds are go" reference here> #mozilla | Jun 14 11:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Mozilla issues final Thunderbird 3.1 release candidate - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.55 KB | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Yfrwlf | haha, so the daughter of McCain and the daugher of Bush are both "leftists" apparently :D | Jun 14 11:59 |
| Yfrwlf | or was it someone else...is McCain's daugher the one who's a lesbian? | Jun 14 12:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, I thought clinton's daughter was the lesbian | Jun 14 12:05 |
| Yfrwlf | O, you're right. | Jun 14 12:05 |
| zoobab | hi | Jun 14 12:06 |
| amarsh04 | oiaohm, Microbee used the NEC V30 cpu, didn't it? | Jun 14 12:06 |
| *amarsh04 disabled checking for new newsgroup messages in icedove as it kept consuming RAM | Jun 14 12:07 | |
| Yfrwlf | zoobab: well hey thar :D lol | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol V30s | Jun 14 12:09 |
| Yfrwlf | Vala sounds interesting, I wonder if it will take off | Jun 14 12:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | vala is a pointless waste of time | Jun 14 12:10 |
| Yfrwlf | then what's the alternative? | Jun 14 12:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | no I mean | Jun 14 12:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | why try to compile c# | Jun 14 12:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Neelie Kroes not against software patents in standards: http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 12:11 | |
| Techrights | Title: EUROPA - Press Releases - Neelie Kroes Address at Open Forum Europe 2010 Summit: 'Openness at the heart of the EU Digital Agenda' Brussels, 10th June 2010 .::. Size~: 30.59 KB | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one knows c#, and its very unpopular | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | they should have copied java instead | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd be very interested in a limited version of java that can be compiled | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Yfrwlf | well they list reasons for Vala supposedly being better than both Java and C#, so, is it? ^^ | Jun 14 12:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | vala is a project thats trying to make a version of c# that can be compiled | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Yfrwlf | oh I see | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | ie, to remove the whole "JIT threat" | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Yfrwlf | so to compile Java instead might be better | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Yfrwlf | yeah perhaps | Jun 14 12:12 |
| Yfrwlf | I have no idea which language would be better to compile as I dunno either :D | Jun 14 12:13 |
| schestowitz | [12:05] <Diablo-D3> no, I thought clinton's daughter was the lesbian | Jun 14 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Chelsea? | Jun 14 12:13 |
| schestowitz | She married a dude from Goldman's Axe last year | Jun 14 12:13 |
| schestowitz | [or got engaged] | Jun 14 12:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Freeview Allowed To Use DRM To Curtail Online Piracy - http://bit.ly/cGNrXi shame on Ofcom, double shame on BBC #DRM | Jun 14 12:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: Freeview Allowed To Use DRM To Curtail Online Piracy| paidContent:UK .::. Size~: 28.98 KB | Jun 14 12:14 |
| Yfrwlf | even if the Internet gets taken over, at least there's Freenet... :P | Jun 14 12:14 |
| Yfrwlf | or your own completely separate Internet via mesh networks? :D | Jun 14 12:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Neelie Kroes not against software patents in standards: http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 12:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: EUROPA - Press Releases - Neelie Kroes Address at Open Forum Europe 2010 Summit: 'Openness at the heart of the EU Digital Agenda' Brussels, 10th June 2010 .::. Size~: 30.59 KB | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yfrwlf: since c# is a bad implementation of java thats different enough to not be straight compatible, vala probably could be muted to do java | Jun 14 12:15 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: I would have to look it up. | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | remember c# is, and always will be, a clone of java | Jun 14 12:15 |
| Yfrwlf | Diablo-D3: Well if C# is a clone of Java, and Vala is similar to C#, then Vala is similar to Java? And you're saying it shouldn't be different, they should just straight compile it? | Jun 14 12:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/opinion/10kristof.html | Jun 14 12:18 |
| Techrights | Title: Op-Ed Columnist - A Modest Proposal - A King and Queen for America - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 64.37 KB | Jun 14 12:18 |
| schestowitz | King Bill? | Jun 14 12:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @zoobab Neelie Kroes not against software patents in standards: http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 12:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: EUROPA - Press Releases - Neelie Kroes Address at Open Forum Europe 2010 Summit: 'Openness at the heart of the EU Digital Agenda' Brussels, 10th June 2010 .::. Size~: 30.59 KB | Jun 14 12:19 |
| schestowitz | And Queen Latifah? | Jun 14 12:19 |
| Yfrwlf | If they made a version of Java that could be compiled instead, that might be a much better bandwagon to jump on, could then more easily port Java apps? | Jun 14 12:19 |
| oiaohm | gcj supports java to native already Yfrwlf | Jun 14 12:21 |
| oiaohm | There is no need to use a JIT with java. | Jun 14 12:21 |
| Yfrwlf | Oh. Well then, what's the point of Vala again? :P | Jun 14 12:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If you have $20k, you can now buy a MILLION shares of SCO http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/11/sco-is-done.html | Jun 14 12:22 | |
| Techrights | Title: SCO is done - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 40.18 KB | Jun 14 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Vala has syntax close to C# | Jun 14 12:22 |
| oiaohm | So it allows C# code to be ported away from .net | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Yfrwlf | So Vala is specifically for those familiar or prefering C#? | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yfrwlf: well | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft didnt copy java's class library layout | Jun 14 12:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | they instead tried to copy the old school win32 c++ one | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | the win32 library layout is insane | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not designed in any definition the world | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, word | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was just randomly adhoc'ed together, and grown organically similar to how a cancer grows | Jun 14 12:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a programmer's nightmare, and any win32 programmer will tell you this | Jun 14 12:24 |
| Yfrwlf | oiaohm: could be useful for that, but, if they are basically using much of the same langauge as C#, then as stupid as it is for a language to be patentable, wouldn't that mean Vala would be under the same patent issues that Mono is? | Jun 14 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Nop Vala | Jun 14 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Core syntax MS has given a patent promise over. | Jun 14 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Libs Vala uses has nothing todo with MS. | Jun 14 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Vala is MS patent issue free. | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Yfrwlf | ah okay | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Yfrwlf | well that's good.. | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yfrwlf: vala's base class library looks more like c#'s than it does glib/gobject's | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Yfrwlf | but, still, software patents be damned. :P | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is, ironically, what vala was trying to do | Jun 14 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they were trying to bring c# syntax to the glib/gobject world | Jun 14 12:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | which, in theory, would have been fine | Jun 14 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Vala programs are running rings around mono programs in all critical measurements. Memory usage and performance | Jun 14 12:26 |
| Yfrwlf | yay! | Jun 14 12:27 |
| Yfrwlf | maybe I'd consider using Tomboy and the other silly Mono apps then if they were ported :D | Jun 14 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Jun 14 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | vala doesnt really _do_ anything | Jun 14 12:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yfrwlf: tomcat was already replaced with gnote | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | and f-spot has been replaced by something new | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | neither are written in vala | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | its straight glib/gtk usage | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Yfrwlf | Shotwell, yeah I know | Jun 14 12:28 |
| oiaohm | shotwell is vala | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Yfrwlf | and I use Gnote | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh shotwell is vala? | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | interesting | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | that could be the first real vala app | Jun 14 12:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only "real" mono gnome app is gnome go | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | and gnome go is an annoying pile of shit | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Yfrwlf | was very snappy performance-wise when I tried it out | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Yfrwlf | Shotwell that is | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cargo culted quicksilver from osx | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yfrwlf: btw, the point of Vala is you dont have JIT | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its no different than writing a real C glib/gtk app | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | its syntactic glue, nothing else | Jun 14 12:29 |
| Yfrwlf | for better performance, sure | Jun 14 12:30 |
| Yfrwlf | which I'm all for the Linux platform becoming bigger any way | Jun 14 12:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | not better performance | Jun 14 12:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | vala doesnt actually _compile_ anything | Jun 14 12:31 |
| Yfrwlf | as long as the basic POSIX standards and whatnot exis then the world could unify on that single standard and you wouldn't need JIT | Jun 14 12:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | gcc does. | Jun 14 12:31 |
| Yfrwlf | *exist | Jun 14 12:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, the point of the jit isnt what you think it is | Jun 14 12:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its so you can compile once and run ANYWHERE | Jun 14 12:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | any arch, any os, even things that arent really computers at all | Jun 14 12:35 |
| oiaohm | JIT is not without its advantages but its disadvantages are high. | Jun 14 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Biggest disadvantage of JIT is that optimisations worked out in a run are lost for the next run. | Jun 14 12:37 |
| oiaohm | MS .net is techically a optimising AOT | Jun 14 12:38 |
| oiaohm | AOT do need storage space for native code. | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: thats not requiredm btw | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: and no | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | .net is JIT just like java is | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | so is mono | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono DOES Have an aot mode | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | but it just produces native binaries | Jun 14 12:39 |
| oiaohm | MS .net does not operate JIT defaut. | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | it does. | Jun 14 12:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | .net has no AOT mode yet | Jun 14 12:39 |
| oiaohm | You have to pass a flag to MS .net to use pure JIT. | Jun 14 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope. | Jun 14 12:40 |
| oiaohm | It has a compliered cache. | Jun 14 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | the exe it produces is bytecode. | Jun 14 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not an actual exe. | Jun 14 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Not the .exe | Jun 14 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and caching compiled bytecode has nothing to do with what you're discussing | Jun 14 12:41 |
| oiaohm | When the engine of MS .net runs it produces another file. | Jun 14 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | java can also cache compiled bytecode | Jun 14 12:41 |
| oiaohm | That contains asm. | Jun 14 12:41 |
| oiaohm | x86 asm. | Jun 14 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | [07:36:00] <Diablo-D3> java can also cache compiled bytecode | Jun 14 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Not as default state. | Jun 14 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Not the full program. | Jun 14 12:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | not sun's jvm, no | Jun 14 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | but there are jvms that do. | Jun 14 12:42 |
| oiaohm | And those caching don't do it as first process either. | Jun 14 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Part of the first run start up lag ms ,net has is that process. | Jun 14 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | sun is considering caching and mulitple run statistics for java 8, btw | Jun 14 12:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: I know more about .net and mono than you do, btw | Jun 14 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | trust me on this | Jun 14 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | .net is not doing anything especially clever. | Jun 14 12:43 |
| oiaohm | I did not say it was expecially clever. | Jun 14 12:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | it only caches the output of compiling bytecode | Jun 14 12:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt runtime recompile for better optimizations, it doesnt keep any statistics at all, and the compiler optimizes like shit | Jun 14 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Yep crappy AOT basically. | Jun 14 12:46 |
| oiaohm | With a optimisation engine that does not work. | Jun 14 12:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Will Akamai spread Ogg, VP8, or sofware patents? http://ur1.ca/07h64 | Jun 14 12:50 | |
| Techrights | Title: Akamai Launches Open Video Player for HTML5 Toolkit | WebProNews .::. Size~: 47.6 KB | Jun 14 12:50 |
| oiaohm | The hard bit is getting the best. The Advantages of storing built binarys and optimizing at run-time. So far no one as really put a system that covers that. Diablo-D3 | Jun 14 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | [07:40:53] <oiaohm> Yep crappy AOT basically. | Jun 14 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not AOT | Jun 14 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just binary caching | Jun 14 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | binary caching is not quite AOT | Jun 14 12:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | although some may choose to define it as so | Jun 14 12:51 |
| oiaohm | For performance shape it basically AOT | Jun 14 12:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] WTF? #Pentax charges you $8 to download the manual for your camera! #ripoff Guess I'm switching back to #Lumix | Jun 14 13:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why there are no billion-dollar open source companies - http://bit.ly/duSUpe great feedback from @maslett on my earlier post on this subject | Jun 14 13:07 | |
| Techrights | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Why there are no billion-dollar open source companies .::. Size~: 38.93 KB | Jun 14 13:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] lol ♺ @glynmoody: Music industry lobbyist calls for death penalty for #piracy - http://bit.ly/cjztF3 give them enough rope.. | Jun 14 13:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: Music industry lobbyist calls for death penalty for piracy - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 22.09 KB | Jun 14 13:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] this means she's in favour of #swpat ♺ @zoobab Neelie Kroes not against software patents in standards: http://ur1.ca/06nxm | Jun 14 13:09 | |
| Techrights | Title: EUROPA - Press Releases - Neelie Kroes Address at Open Forum Europe 2010 Summit: 'Openness at the heart of the EU Digital Agenda' Brussels, 10th June 2010 .::. Size~: 30.59 KB | Jun 14 13:09 |
| oiaohm | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html Known before the war or not? | Jun 14 13:09 |
| Techrights | Title: U.S. Identifies Vast Riches of Minerals in Afghanistan - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 70.87 KB | Jun 14 13:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Ouchie RT @weikim: Vaxigrip vaccine comes with it's own glass syringe! One more with @yoonkit 's name on it. http://tweetphoto.com/27185702 | Jun 14 13:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Google - What Happened to my Creative Commons License? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100614034659206 | Jun 14 13:10 | |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 14 13:10 |
| Techrights | Title: Groklaw - What Happened to my Creative Commons License? .::. Size~: 33.25 KB | Jun 14 13:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] No Germans? RT @weikim: my flu vaccination. Used Vaxigrip w a lurvely cocktail of California H1N1+Perth H3N2+Brisbane2008 inactive strains | Jun 14 13:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Concordo! ♺ @GabrielfSilva: @RuiSeabra o site do parlamento é uma grande confusão, não encontro os projectos de lei de revogação anunciados | Jun 14 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | In that talk from lessig "Open", he writes about Jobs and "freedom from pr0n" | Jun 14 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Apple redefined freedom as "ban" | Jun 14 13:18 |
| schestowitz | I guess Jobs doesn't need pr0n | Jun 14 13:18 |
| schestowitz | He just needs a mirror | Jun 14 13:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: war? | Jun 14 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Against what? | Jun 14 13:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Abundance Obsoletes Peer Review, so Drop It - http://bit.ly/awhPab academics can stop paying this tax on their time #peerreview #abundance | Jun 14 13:25 | |
| Techrights | Title: open...: Abundance Obsoletes Peer Review, so Drop It .::. Size~: 68.1 KB | Jun 14 13:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: was the mineral in Afghanistan known before the battle there. schestowitz | Jun 14 13:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The World’s 5 Largest Public BitTorrent Trackers - http://bit.ly/93qGaV "The two largest BitTorrent trackers today didn’t exist a year ago" | Jun 14 13:29 | |
| Techrights | Title: The Worlds 5 Largest Public BitTorrent Trackers | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 36.1 KB | Jun 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/bpglobalpr | Jun 14 13:29 |
| Techrights | Title: BP Public Relations (BPGlobalPR) on Twitter .::. Size~: 46.07 KB | Jun 14 13:29 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: who knows | Jun 14 13:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] http://twitter.com/bpglobalpr is hilarious; have a look @bpglobalpr | Jun 14 13:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: BP Public Relations (BPGlobalPR) on Twitter .::. Size~: 46.07 KB | Jun 14 13:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Abundance Obsoletes Peer Review, so Drop It - http://bit.ly/awhPab > very true, academics sometimes live in the past | Jun 14 13:34 | |
| Techrights | Title: open...: Abundance Obsoletes Peer Review, so Drop It .::. Size~: 68.1 KB | Jun 14 13:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/08/muti_footie/ | Jun 14 13:38 |
| Techrights | Title: England win World Cup, says dried vulture brain • The Register .::. Size~: 30.86 KB | Jun 14 13:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: any thought re http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/39707-final-nail-hammered-into-sco-case ? | Jun 14 13:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Everybody else wants Ibrahim Ali out of any position of power. #perkasasucks | Jun 14 13:44 | |
| oiaohm | I would not say its over. schestowitz. IBM has not had there turn yet. I can except IBM to want internal records out of SCO. | Jun 14 13:44 |
| oiaohm | To find out if MS or someone else was behind the attack by SCO on them. | Jun 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/06/09/jobs_ads_survey/ | Jun 14 13:45 |
| Techrights | Title: IT jobs market recovering well • Channel Register .::. Size~: 16.89 KB | Jun 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | embellishment | Jun 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | 4% after collapse is neglibible | Jun 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | *gi | Jun 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, that's what I heard IBM would do | Jun 14 13:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't know the process exactly | Jun 14 13:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] More on charging for #Pentax manuals: the webform for h90 goes in circles, but it looks like $8 is the only way; others may be free | Jun 14 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it this morning, having heard from an IBMer | Jun 14 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Really the worst case is that Novell started it all. | Jun 14 13:48 |
| schestowitz | motive.....? | Jun 14 13:48 |
| oiaohm | If IBM can prove who started the attack on them they are in so much trouble its not funny. | Jun 14 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Novell and MS both have motive to weaken IBM. | Jun 14 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Can it be proven conclusively | Jun 14 13:49 |
| schestowitz | What would prevent destruction of evidence? | Jun 14 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Evidence of obstruction of evidence? | Jun 14 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Like gaps in E-mails, deleted messages? | Jun 14 13:49 |
| oiaohm | if SCO can prove it IBM might give them the money to save themselves from the reaper. | Jun 14 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Not like IBM has not done that before. | Jun 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | IBM is not behind using the power of greed schestowitz | Jun 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Or turning a proxy that attacked them into a force to attack the one using the proxy. | Jun 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/08/telegraph_times_cio/ | Jun 14 13:52 |
| Techrights | Title: Murdoch taps Telegraph for new tech boss • The Register .::. Size~: 32.14 KB | Jun 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: can you take Murdoch back to Australia/ | Jun 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Please? | Jun 14 13:52 |
| oiaohm | So until IBM has had there turn I would not say the Novell SCO case is over. | Jun 14 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Mudoch's diaper is dropping everywhere he walks | Jun 14 13:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Here's free #Pentax manuals, from a different part of the site http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/download_manual.html | Jun 14 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | *dripping | Jun 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/08/novell_sun_migration/ | Jun 14 13:54 |
| Techrights | Title: Novell wants a piece of Sun Oracle • The Register .::. Size~: 38.17 KB | Jun 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | They also want OOo | Jun 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Go-OO | Jun 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/349030/oracle_lay_off_more_sun_workers?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Jun 14 13:55 |
| Techrights | Title: Oracle to lay off more Sun workers - careers, layoffs, oracle, Oracle-Sun merger - Techworld .::. Size~: 50.04 KB | Jun 14 13:55 |
| oiaohm | He is not an australian cit any more. | Jun 14 13:56 |
| oiaohm | He is a USA cit. | Jun 14 13:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] 3 different "download manual" pages for #Pentax H90: one says, "Nothing avail," one says "$8" and one has a free PDF! | Jun 14 13:56 | |
| oiaohm | Australia does not allow duel unless you are born it. | Jun 14 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Novell will try to wrest.......... control of OOo | Jun 14 13:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Enhanced my Nexus with a 16GB MicroSD card. The desktop and car docks are in place. Feeling good! | Jun 14 13:58 | |
| oiaohm | Not going to happen. | Jun 14 13:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: problem is, is kids are equally bad | Jun 14 13:58 |
| schestowitz | When he passes away it'll still suck | Jun 14 13:58 |
| oiaohm | None of the SUN workers layed off are from the OpenOffice department. | Jun 14 13:58 |
| schestowitz | You don't need to take him back... or the UK deport him to AU as a con (it's up to the US) | Jun 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | They are the power and problem of conglemerates | Jun 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | I think there are 9 left | Jun 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe 3 within years | Jun 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | So nationalise Murdoch's assets | Jun 14 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Don't forget he is a tax do avoider as well schestowitz | Jun 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Put him in a parents' home and if you press asks about him, say a "dingo ate this baby" :-):-) | Jun 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Reason why he left here. | Jun 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Many are | Jun 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Gates too | Jun 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Australian goverment tighted up rules on overseas assets. | Jun 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | You want to be rid of him. | Jun 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Tighten up the tax laws. | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/10/phoenix_hp/ | Jun 14 14:01 |
| Techrights | Title: Phoenix's virtualization tech flies to HP • The Register .::. Size~: 32.48 KB | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | What do you make of it? | Jun 14 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Australian tax here you have to report all income. | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | If you use Windows :-0) | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise you're probably still out of luck for returns | Jun 14 14:02 |
| oiaohm | It is something to worry about. | Jun 14 14:02 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry, I couln'\t report my taxes because I am not a customer of this US company called Microsoft Corp." | Jun 14 14:02 |
| oiaohm | No any OS. | Jun 14 14:02 |
| schestowitz | They fixed it? | Jun 14 14:02 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it a lot since 2006 | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | ITwire said there were still probs | Jun 14 14:03 |
| oiaohm | The virtualisation tech HP has just aquired is one of the systems that allows 1 sec boot times. | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | One of them | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | +patents | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | About 200 I think | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | nm | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I'm thinking about Phoenix | Jun 14 14:04 |
| oiaohm | On x86 yes | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | as a bios, not devicevm or splashtop | Jun 14 14:04 |
| oiaohm | On some other processes types nop. | Jun 14 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Also that it don't work right HP has a bad habit of trialing this stuff on home users. | Jun 14 14:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/09/linden_labs_lays_off_30_per_cent_of_staff/ | Jun 14 14:06 |
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| schestowitz | So the future is not so VR | Jun 14 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Remember HP builds items like printers. | Jun 14 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Fast boot times would be a god send to them. | Jun 14 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | power saving | Jun 14 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Problem here is atom chip and top aline intel chips have the same power profile for processing power. | Jun 14 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Yet atoms are way cheeper. | Jun 14 14:09 |
| oiaohm | So you have like 8 completely indidual machines to 1 high end chip. | Jun 14 14:10 |
| oiaohm | So virtualisation in that envorment is not much of a gain. | Jun 14 14:10 |
| oiaohm | And that is without arm chips getting into the server game. | Jun 14 14:10 |
| schestowitz | oh, cool.... 1600th in Netcraft... techrights.org | Jun 14 14:11 |
| schestowitz | and climbing | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, servers with Linux | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | And Power/x86 | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | No SPARC, I reckon | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | No word from Oracle about it yet | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | But the clients turn to ARM | Jun 14 14:12 |
| schestowitz | tablets, notebooks, phones, smartbooks, etc. | Jun 14 14:13 |
| oiaohm | ARM wants into the server game as well. | Jun 14 14:13 |
| schestowitz | MeeGo=miserable attempt to out-do arm/android | Jun 14 14:13 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: giev them time | Jun 14 14:13 |
| schestowitz | ARM Holdings enjoy growth in mobile | Jun 14 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Depression II had servers take a hit | Jun 14 14:13 |
| MinceR | wanting a truly open mobile OS is miserable now? :> | Jun 14 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Really I hope MeeGo causes more common core between distributions. | Jun 14 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Arm as basically no more market space in mobiles. | Jun 14 14:16 |
| oiaohm | So they have to branch out. | Jun 14 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Intel has no more space in desktop so is branching out. | Jun 14 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Hello war. | Jun 14 14:16 |
| schestowitz | " Calling it piracy plays right into their hands - it's not theft. It " http://twitter.com/browren/status/16138428345 | Jun 14 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | "It's simply that their current method for creating artificial scarcity doesn't work anymore." http://twitter.com/browren/status/16138473534 | Jun 14 14:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's simply that their current method for creating artificial scarcity doesn't work anymore. | Jun 14 14:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/06/09/twitter-sees-nearly-10-growth-in-may | Jun 14 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. It never plateaues | Jun 14 14:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you should set up an identi.ca account I can link to this channel | Jun 14 14:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/ -> register. You have a desktop plasmoid where you put your account name, then just type stuff into it | Jun 14 14:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] NL 2 - DK 0 #wclive hup holland hup!! | Jun 14 14:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] #boarding ICE1504 from MUC to Berlin: -) | Jun 14 14:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK Councils Open Data scoreboard - http://bit.ly/cGw2Cy fab resource, depressing results #opendata #localgov | Jun 14 14:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Officially impressed by #Pentax H90 panorama feature http://tinyurl.com/2wz6nvk | Jun 14 14:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] NL wins! 2:0 against DK. Yeah! | Jun 14 14:34 | |
| schestowitz | I have some important GMO post coming.... | Jun 14 14:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Offering the #ubuntu manual behind a sign up page is a touch sleazy @ChrisPirillo http://bit.ly/cCUOKj Free download at http://bit.ly/d6GKct | Jun 14 14:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Shame on Ofcom, Double Shame on the BBC - http://bit.ly/cN8Bn1 media company DRM ends decades of serving the licence-paying public #bbc #drm | Jun 14 14:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] From the Branding Geniuses Who Brought You Zune, Bing, and Kin: Kinect for Xbox 360 - http://bit.ly/95rGew well, if you put it like that... | Jun 14 14:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] WD12 on ACTA: 150 signatures to go, time to call! - http://bit.ly/dq9Sj6 useful resource #acta #eu | Jun 14 14:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Drop it. She can't dance 4nuts RT @blogjunkie: Should MyEG stick with or drop it's unpopular dancing TV ad campaign? http://bit.ly/drfDLQ | Jun 14 15:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] MyEG is going down in history as the co with the worst adverts. | Jun 14 15:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] http://tweetphoto.com/27205509 @teresakok @teresakok you really must trim your captions with tweetphoto, cos the point of the tweet gets ... | Jun 14 15:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many new problems for #Xbox 360 — problems which lead to visual and nymical changes http://ur1.ca/07if6 #xbox360 | Jun 14 15:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @jerezim Anyone knows a NGO or individuals caring about Net freedoms in Poland? #ACTA #EU >>offers? #poland | Jun 14 15:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Eastern Europe – land of digital freedom? - http://bit.ly/9SUX5b a decision every country has to make #Croatia #acta | Jun 14 15:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going through basically every website I have visited and changing passwords. Probably about time. | Jun 14 15:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #Pinkwater's BEAUTIFUL YETTA, kids' book about Yiddish country chicken and Brooklyn's feral parrots http://tinyurl.com/38pv7bf | Jun 14 15:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning all, how are we all today? I am still feeling a little sensitive from the 'ol food poisoning. Ugh. | Jun 14 16:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @manish: six showstoppers when a new comer installs !Ubuntu. A study by Canonical design team. http://is.gd/cOVeX | Jun 14 16:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2: New blog post: "Painting, Partimus and Open Computing Showcase" http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=3076 | Jun 14 16:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] As Service Pack 1 (SP1) of #Vista7 comes nearer there is “a big yawn” and new security problems http://ur1.ca/07ir2 | Jun 14 16:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Is Bill Gates using Free Software to attack Google search? http://bit.ly/bJs1ir via @glynmoody | Jun 14 16:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The always awesome Nigel Baby gives us an update on Project Cleansweep - http://is.gd/cOXNS #ubuntu | Jun 14 16:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In the absence of coffee (my on-call in-house doctor assures me it is not good for the tum), I have made a cup of tea the size of Wales. :) | Jun 14 16:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Oops, previous name should have been the awesome Nigel Babu | Jun 14 16:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Paying for highspeed train + chugging along veeery slow == #fail #db. ICE1504 | Jun 14 16:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] ZOIKS! I just heard an Ubuntu startup sound in the office! I suspect an IT person is fixing a borked windows machine :) | Jun 14 17:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Apple-Google Mobile Battle Continues - http://bit.ly/ddI9QG I've seen this graph before: ie vs. firefox #iphone #android | Jun 14 17:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Source? Free Software? What we need is Open Projects - http://bit.ly/djf7dY radical #openness #opensource | Jun 14 17:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @einfeldt no, have a look at http://techrights.org/2010/06/13/gates-web-news-monitor/ | Jun 14 17:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Film Director: File Sharing Only Hurts Bad Or Mediocre Films - http://bit.ly/aecqUP call it P2P justice #films | Jun 14 17:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] "On sale at the end of the year?" Yet more MS advertising on the BBC, why am I not surprised? http://tinyurl.com/2ursela | Jun 14 17:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Somali militants threaten World Cup TV viewers - http://bit.ly/bau6Cu "football fans will be publicly flogged": a smidge excessive, perhaps | Jun 14 17:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates et al Told Off by Haitian Farmers for #Monsanto Lobbying/Investments http://ur1.ca/07jc9 #gmo #patents #haiti | Jun 14 17:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody Steve Jobs would call it "freedom from football" :-) | Jun 14 17:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz indeed | Jun 14 18:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @richardfontana #SCOTUS issues opinions in 4 argued cases but no #Bilski ! #swpats | Jun 14 18:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Haven't watched terrestrial TV in a long while RT @ShaolinTiger: @yoonkit you obviously don't watch TV, there's WAY more hideous ads | Jun 14 18:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Vinnietan 3! RT @alphaque: and its over ! #CMR 0 #JPN 1. bookies 1, dinesh 2 | Jun 14 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Dylan is rocking the Harvest improvements under the careful mentoring of Daniel Holbach - http://is.gd/cP3bz #ubuntu | Jun 14 18:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] taking the train from Munich to Berlin is a total #fail. | Jun 14 18:18 | |
| *schestowitz ♡ train travel | Jun 14 18:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So much for buzz. #Microsoft and its new device for the 360 is off the trending list for the UK already.Oh well,anyone for Kin 3 ? ;) #fail | Jun 14 18:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There's something anomalous in my sleeping habits. Sometimes I'm more tired if I sleep more. I guess it's normal. | Jun 14 18:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin seen my post about it yet? | Jun 14 18:24 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Currently listening to : "Don't let me down - The Beatles" #Ilovethissong | Jun 14 18:29 | |
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| schestowitz | jono_: headsup: http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2010/06/mark-shuttleworths-business-concept-is.html http://www.tildehash.com/?article=meritocracy-vs-democracy | Jun 14 18:29 |
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| jono | schestowitz whatever, everyone has an opinion :) | Jun 14 18:30 |
| jono | which is cool | Jun 14 18:30 |
| jono | :) | Jun 14 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | jono: not agreeing with these | Jun 14 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Just bringing it to your attention as I go along seeing them | Jun 14 18:31 |
| jono | thanks schestowitz :) | Jun 14 18:31 |
| jono | hey schestowitz did you see my new Severed Fifth Fair Pay thing? | Jun 14 18:31 |
| jono | http://www.severedfifth.com/pay/ | Jun 14 18:31 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1616 | Jun 14 18:31 |
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| jono | curious to see what you think | Jun 14 18:31 |
| jono | I think it is the right thing to do for supporting CC projects | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I started listening to libre.fm | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I have your first album as you know | Jun 14 18:32 |
| jono | yeah | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | RMS suggested making buttons for donations | Jun 14 18:32 |
| jono | I am just curious to see what you think of this payment approach | Jun 14 18:32 |
| jono | cool | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Ones where you connect the music player to the account | Jun 14 18:32 |
| jono | I want to use libre.fm for Severed Fifth | Jun 14 18:32 |
| jono | cool | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Then you can toss pennies while you listen | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | It would work better, I think | Jun 14 18:32 |
| schestowitz | libre.fm has a #librefm irc channel as well | Jun 14 18:33 |
| jono | thats a cool idea :) | Jun 14 18:33 |
| jono | I would love to see a Severed Fifth rhythmbox plugin :) | Jun 14 18:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Yeah I did...good article....saw the incoming link. It seems the UK is more interested in Big Brother than that device! | Jun 14 18:34 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] BSD licensed music player: http://musicplayer.sourceforge.net/ #usedit | Jun 14 18:34 | |
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| schestowitz | The new album is not out yet | Jun 14 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.severedfifth.com/releases/ | Jun 14 18:34 |
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| *schestowitz Just noticed Bytemark | Jun 14 18:35 | |
| jono | schestowitz if you wouldnt mind tweeting the Severed Fifth fair pay thing, that would be cool | Jun 14 18:35 |
| *schestowitz knows 2 people form byemark | Jun 14 18:35 | |
| jono | of course, if you are comfortable with so | Jun 14 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Sure. | Jun 14 18:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New idea for raising incentives for artists to create music http://www.severedfifth.com/pay/ attempt by @jonobacon | Jun 14 18:37 | |
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| schestowitz | "I didn’t get to see Jono Bacon’s post Ubuntu: meritocracy not democracy until today. Shame I missed it, I like reading this stuff." | Jun 14 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://doctormo.org/2010/06/14/ubuntu-a-work-in-progress/ | Jun 14 18:38 |
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| jono | thanks schestowitz | Jun 14 18:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IDG's report about #Ubuntu tablets was apparently rubbish journalism. http://ur1.ca/07jof | Jun 14 18:52 | |
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| schestowitz | "this has been the worst year ever for b&mg foundation's reputation, and probably the most revealing for those of us who never trusted them- it's good to do good things, but it's easy to do evil in the name of doing good" http://280.status.net/notice/144791 | Jun 14 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | Two or three months ago I read about the Gates fortunes growing $12-13bn in just one year. Not bad for a retired "giver" | Jun 14 18:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @openuniverse soon there would be "freedom from steve [Jobs]" and that's not the KIND of freedom he had in mind #freedomfrompr0n | Jun 14 19:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] A-Team was really good despite my scepticism from the boring trailer- no upbeat themesong and throaty voiceover. Go see, I LOLed a few times | Jun 14 19:07 | |
| Diablo-D3 | [01:53:05] <schestowitz> Two or three months ago I read about the Gates fortunes growing $12-13bn in just one year. Not bad for a retired "giver" | Jun 14 19:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | and just think | Jun 14 19:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd be happy with just two million of it | Jun 14 19:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/samsungs-7-inch-tab-to-run-android-2-2-on-1-2ghz-a8-processor/ | Jun 14 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: you've been a naughty boy | Jun 14 19:12 |
| schestowitz | The poor rich people are suffering too | Jun 14 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Two years ago they were bilkionaires | Jun 14 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Now they are left with like $0.7... bn | Jun 14 19:13 |
| schestowitz | When China dumps the USD and the US economy dies they'll move to some place in Vacouver or maybe Taiwan | Jun 14 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Can't handle a FEMA-like chaos and private mercenary armies like in Katrina.. too many pistols out there... and 'tea party' proponents | Jun 14 19:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Monsanto from "Food Inc" infamy and its promotion by Bill Gates Foundation to poorer countries http://bit.ly/ay0oNj - conspiracy? | Jun 14 19:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Where u can have only one shot? RT @bleongcw: Good to see u today @bytebot & @mikefoong and have a good time for whisky in Highlander | Jun 14 19:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Launch of it.ckan.net for open data in Italy! - http://bit.ly/aI9qRz "Is Italy behind other countries with respect to open data?" forse... | Jun 14 19:17 | |
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| schestowitz | "The pro-GM lobby has frequently used the spectre of hunger to disenfranchise Africans of their rights to make meaningful decisions about their lives. At the same time the World Bank and IMF push for 'good governance' on the part of African governments, they and their partners support projects that suppress democracy and self-determination. " | Jun 14 19:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bizarre sign of the day [IMG]: http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1214_signs.jpg | Jun 14 19:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Free Wi-Fi is Just a Small Part of Starbucks' Plan: Free Access to Paid Content Coming Fall 2010 - http://bit.ly/bLxUQV new business model? | Jun 14 19:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Had our second Fair Pay contribution to #severedfifth - you know who you are, and thanks! http://www.severedfifth.com/pay/ | Jun 14 19:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] PJ tells a personal history of Groklaw http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100614034659206 Very interesting | Jun 14 19:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody to read Murdoch's "content" it'll be *him* having to pay for the coffee | Jun 14 19:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz interesting point: I wonder whether his titles will be included? | Jun 14 19:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ugh, toothache. | Jun 14 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, the SP1 sneaks in some memory leak fixes for IE 8 | Jun 14 19:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @schestowitz PJ tells a personal history of Groklaw - http://bit.ly/bvL6Kt >>headline is too retiring: I missed this important post b4 | Jun 14 19:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | that's about the only interesting bit | Jun 14 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | well, that I've seen | Jun 14 19:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, it says WSJ | Jun 14 19:40 | |
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| schestowitz | "As Groklaw became more popular and began winning recognition, along came the deliberate disrupters. I got my Ph.D. in trolls and astroturfers, you might say, so I'll share with you some things I learned in the University of Trolldom and Astroturfing, because it has a bearing on whether an open legal research project will succeed or fail." | Jun 14 19:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @DirDigEng further three years' #COINS spending data now on data.gov.uk http://bit.ly/cQ6tLO -now back to 2005-6 >>more is more #ogov | Jun 14 19:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Hotmail's spam filters suck so bad that it's almost like the only filter rule is "Send an email into Junk every X emails" | Jun 14 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I heard so | Jun 14 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Why can't Microsoft do it right? | Jun 14 19:48 |
| schestowitz | bad employees? | Jun 14 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | turning it off and letting Thunderbird sort out the mess is the only option if you need to keep using Hotmail | Jun 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it should filter through gmail as a service :) | Jun 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Imagine that! | Jun 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Hotmail to use gmail for filtering | Jun 14 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's funny is that Windows Live Mail (the Live Essentials desktop mail client) has decent filters | Jun 14 19:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody FTA: "Starbucks also plans to give Internet users in its stores free access to paid sites, including the Wall Street Journal. " | Jun 14 19:50 | |
| DaemonFC | so Microsoft can't fitler your mail at HGotmail but they can filter anything that Live Mail retrieves | Jun 14 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Windows Live Essentials 2010 adds no features and fixes no bugs | Jun 14 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the new feature is they doubled the advertising | Jun 14 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | they made the main window twice as big so they can embed skyscraper ads in it | Jun 14 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | then they embed a sizeable banner at the bottom of every message window now | Jun 14 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | as big as the old banner was in Windows Live Messenger 2009's main contacts window | Jun 14 19:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mind_booster: New sticker contest winning design | DefectiveByDesign.org http://ff.im/m2Gav | Jun 14 19:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | adding rad.msn.com to your hosts file resolved to 127.0.0.1 still works, but Microsoft's license threatens to terminate your account if you do it | Jun 14 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | they also make sure to tell you that using Pidgin or any "unauthorized client" could lead them to delete your account | Jun 14 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I remember Justin Frankel (Winamp founder) did a stunt as one of his "piss AOL off into firing me" string | Jun 14 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | that embedded a spectrum analyzer for Winamp in where the AIM ads were | Jun 14 19:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Would you want to sprinkle this on your dinner? http://twitpic.com/1wt2jv | Jun 14 19:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | via a Winamp plug-in | Jun 14 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, When AOL bought Nullsoft, his contract was to stay on for a while, but if he quit he would lose this giant bonus that he would otherwise get at the end of the contract | Jun 14 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | so he finally got them to fire him | Jun 14 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | that was also why he did the Gnutella protocol and hosted it on Nullsoft servers | Jun 14 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 19:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I really love ThunderBrowse. I rarely need to use Firefox anymore. Screenshot: http://ur1.ca/07k3o [IMG, lossy JPEG] | Jun 14 19:58 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, No Adblock Plus? | Jun 14 19:58 |
| schestowitz | it's installed | Jun 14 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I like how every once in a while, some pages have a script to see if theiur ad loaded and send you to a "turn off your ad blocker" page | Jun 14 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | so I have a few rules added to block the scrips | Jun 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | *scripts | Jun 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | NeoWin was using those for a while | Jun 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | lame | Jun 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | the only lasting effects of that crap is that Adblock Plus gets updated to bypass it anyway | Jun 14 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | after a few users report the offending site | Jun 14 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Gmail has forced Hotmail to improve | Jun 14 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | for years you were limited to 100 MB total inbox and no POP3 unless you paid for Hotmail Plus | Jun 14 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I actually subscribed to Hotmail Plus for a while then cancelled it once their free service was forced to improve (cause of Gmail) | Jun 14 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft continued charging my credit card every month | Jun 14 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | eventually I got them to refund all the money | Jun 14 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | then the next month they billed me again | Jun 14 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I got them to refund it | Jun 14 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | then I called my bank and asked them to issue me a new card with different numbers because Microsoft wouldn't stop billing me | Jun 14 20:10 |
| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | Jun 14 20:10 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | then I got an email from Microsoft saying my card was declined and they were cancelling my Hotmail Plus | Jun 14 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason I cringe when I hear my name pronounced with a thick Indian accent | Jun 14 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's like nails on a chalkboard | Jun 14 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | that and you know it's either a telemarketer or you're on the phone with Microsoft Support | Jun 14 20:12 |
| schestowitz | how can it be pronounced? | Jun 14 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | like you're not chewing a caramel toffee and on the pot taking a shit while saying it | Jun 14 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | preferably | Jun 14 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | or as I refer to it, taking a vowel movement | Jun 14 20:16 |
| MinceR | that's very politically correct | Jun 14 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of companies like Dell have moved their support centers back to the United States or up into Canada so you can actually understand more than every fifth word | Jun 14 20:17 |
| schestowitz | ri-ian | Jun 14 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | they were losing business because customers finally understood that if they had to call in for tech support, they would get sent off to someone in India | Jun 14 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's worse for some people I guess | Jun 14 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | There's a guy I know, his last name is Buckles | Jun 14 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Buck less? | Jun 14 20:19 |
| schestowitz | That's what they would call him? | Jun 14 20:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/1wt2jv - For those who think it a fake picture: http://www.tropicalsunfoods.com/product/36/cock-flavoured-seasoning.html | Jun 14 20:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | and they call him up and say "Boo-kles" | Jun 14 20:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/1wt2jv - From site: "Tropical Sun brings you another taste of Jamaica with our Cock Flavoured Seasoning" | Jun 14 20:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | so I started calling him that just to piss him off | Jun 14 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've put my phone number on the federal and Indiana state do not call registries | Jun 14 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | so I can sue anyone that violates that under both laws | Jun 14 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had the Indiana Troopers Association harassing me for a while | Jun 14 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | they get around the law by claiming they're a non-profit and/or a charity | Jun 14 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | and if you refused to pay them, they would start calling you more and more | Jun 14 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | until finally it was 2-3 times a day | Jun 14 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You know what I did about that? | Jun 14 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | I found the home phone number and address of the supervisor for that call center | Jun 14 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | and called her at 2 AM | Jun 14 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | and told her that unless she wanted a personal visit at her home address, they would knock their shit off | Jun 14 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | and the calls ceased immediately | Jun 14 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | they border on harassment until you cough up the "donation" | Jun 14 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | the WANE-TV evening news did a report on them finally after I spoke with them | Jun 14 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | where they investigated the organization and found that 85% of the "donations" went to the telemarketing company or the personal salaries of the people at the alleged "charity" | Jun 14 20:29 |
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| DaemonFC | the attorney general said he was "interested" in them and their harassment calls pretty much went away | Jun 14 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | people were being harassed into donating and then they would send you this little sticker in the mail for your car bumper | Jun 14 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | people put that sticker on figuring I guess that the cops would be more lenient on them if they got stopped :P | Jun 14 20:32 |
| MinceR | and were they? | Jun 14 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | no, the cops know it's bogus | Jun 14 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 14 20:33 |
| MinceR | more like the cops know the money doesn't go to anyone who has power over them :> | Jun 14 20:33 |
| MinceR | http://venturebeat.com/2010/06/13/seamicro-drops-an-atom-bomb-on-the-server-industry/ | Jun 14 20:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] ZaReason Verix Notebook http://is.gd/cPbYI Linux vendors #floss #foss | Jun 14 20:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] found my hotel in Berlin. Waiting for colleague | Jun 14 20:42 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I guess if it really did involve a "police fund", then they would strongly hint that you better donate to them t oavoid police harassment | Jun 14 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | rather than letting it be merely implied | Jun 14 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:42 |
| MinceR | oh well, that's just one notch up from what all the states do | Jun 14 20:45 |
| MinceR | (continual armed robbery) | Jun 14 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, pay your taxes or have your property stolen by armed thugs | Jun 14 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 20:47 |
| MinceR | called "police" | Jun 14 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, INDOR actually charges you to pay them too | Jun 14 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | (Indiana Department of Revenue) | Jun 14 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | $8 if you don't want to mail them a paper check | Jun 14 20:48 |
| MinceR | the hungarian authorities take extra effort to make taxes hard to pay | Jun 14 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | they get more when they seize your property for non-payment | Jun 14 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jun 14 20:49 |
| MinceR | and the state is run by assholes | Jun 14 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The IRS and INDOR both love to wait until 6 years and 11 months to inform you of the back taxes you owe them | Jun 14 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | lets the penalties rack up to the maximum they can before the taxes have to be "forgiven" | Jun 14 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | then if yout don't cough it all up, they have an "estate sale", liquidate all your property to cover your taxes + penalties | Jun 14 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz "reader tim" Prefer "reader, Tim of Openbytes" or "reader Goblin of Openbytes"...food for thought? ;) | Jun 14 20:51 | |
| MinceR | "There are some who call me...Tim." | Jun 14 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Tim Farthing | Jun 14 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | the local deputy sheriff? | Jun 14 20:51 |
| MinceR | more like Tim the Enchanter | Jun 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | sheriff is Kent Farthing | Jun 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | he hired his son who has no kind of law degree and never attended any police training | Jun 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | and he's calling the rest of the local officials corrupt politicians who practice nepotism | Jun 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | at least when the mayor hires his son to prune trees for the city, the trees get pruned | Jun 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | even if he is being slightly overpaid | Jun 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jun 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | the mayor structured his "layoffs" to avoid anyone that's related to him | Jun 14 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | then gave them the "extra duties" that aren't being carried out | Jun 14 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | as well as raises | Jun 14 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's more efficient they say | Jun 14 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | who am I to argue? I just have to pay for all of it. | Jun 14 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Move elsewhere? You mean somewhere else where all the same shit goes on? | Jun 14 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | OK then. But I don't see how that helps... :D | Jun 14 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I was considering changing my last name to Updike and claiming to be a long lost nephew so I could get a city job that pays me twice what I'm worth to the city. | Jun 14 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | Think it would work? | Jun 14 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Here's how Updike stays in power... 1. There's no Democrats running because they would just automatically lose here because they're not Republicans. | Jun 14 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then Updike is running the local Republican Party and decides who gets help with their campaign costs. | Jun 14 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | The election ends with a landslide for the Updikes | Jun 14 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | he's running the party headquarters in the den of his living room | Jun 14 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | I filed a complaint with the Indiana Board of Elections in 2008 because he was violating federal campaign laws as there were federal candidates on the ballot. | Jun 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | They had to scramble to disassemble all their stuff and rent a building to put the "new headquarters" in long enough to get the election over with | Jun 14 21:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] WRT calling just Linux to a GNU+Linux I just wish defenders of the former to be consistent and say Mach rather than MacOS. And less rabid. | Jun 14 21:01 | |
| DaemonFC | in the meantime, the Obama campaign was sending people here from Iowa to create a "Democratic Headquarters" for the county | Jun 14 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | so we were up and running the whole time the Republicans were scrambling to disassemble all their stuff and reassemble it all on the other side of town | Jun 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Updike loves me | Jun 14 21:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear Lazyweb, My 10th Wedding Anniversary in August. We are getting a night away, suggestions where in the UK to go for a night off? | Jun 14 21:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I suspect DNS pre-fetching is what is pissing off my router now and then | Jun 14 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 21:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/zu787 A picture of my living room ...just testing my twitpic feature on my HTC desire. | Jun 14 21:06 | |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: you have no Dem candidates? | Jun 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No, and the ones who are listed as Democrats are really Republicans that Updike shunned | Jun 14 21:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Pentagon further steers away from proprietary software. http://is.gd/cPdre #floss #foss | Jun 14 21:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | making a last ditch effort to get elected | Jun 14 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.huntingtonpolitics.com/ | Jun 14 21:08 |
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| DaemonFC | There's a local "Democratic" candidate | Jun 14 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | he's a Democrat whenever Updike won't let him win the Republican primary | Jun 14 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | and still can't get elected | Jun 14 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 21:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why do the Democrats allow this? | Jun 14 21:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A Failure to Communicate - http://bit.ly/cbesYC fascinating & important case about e-reserves, scholarly publishing and #fairuse #copyright | Jun 14 21:18 | |
| *Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) | Jun 14 21:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Red Hat claims fastest growing OS - http://tinyurl.com/2bbr3ug #linux #foss #microsoft #windows #mvp #vista #xp | Jun 14 21:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Because they're Republicans around here | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | The Democrats that is | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | they're second hand Republicans that Updike's political machine has shunned :D | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://pastebin.com/dj03svtT | Jun 14 21:23 |
| Techrights | Title: I should run for a Republican - Ryan - dj03svtT - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 19 KB | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | -me | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Someone has been trying to run a DoS attack on me for a few days | Jun 14 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | they seem to be unaware that packets can be dropped at the ISP level | Jun 14 21:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ISP Attempt To Block File-Sharing Ends in Epic Failure - http://bit.ly/b2Q0rV wow, this is impressively stupid #hadopi #orange | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| MinceR | nice list | Jun 14 21:26 |
| Techrights | Title: ISP Attempt To Block File-Sharing Ends in Epic Failure | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 40.36 KB | Jun 14 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | but I give them an F for eFFort | Jun 14 21:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Brighton and Bournemouth are both places we've been for a night out before and are on the list already. | Jun 14 21:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Are Dell, Acer, And HP The First Chrome OS Partners? - http://bit.ly/bFpuN3 Microsoft is really going to love this #chromeos #dell #acer #hp | Jun 14 21:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] TurnKey Linux Make Launching Open Source Appliances in the Cloud Easy - http://bit.ly/bbAXgE looks nice #cloudcomputing #opensource | Jun 14 21:29 | |
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| MinceR | TurKey | Jun 14 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I commented on a blog post where he's bitching about Updike | Jun 14 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | "Found: One Republican. If anyone would like to claim him, please pick him up at the local Democratic Party Headquarters. Will trade for one legitimate Democrat as reward." | Jun 14 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The rules for party organization at county level are pretty lax. | Jun 14 21:33 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 14 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Officially, they had to endorse Obama or they would have lost their affiliation with the state party | Jun 14 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | other than that, they promote failed Republicans | Jun 14 21:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] My 3yo daughter has worked out mice and pointers. She picks her own Peppa Pig videos. HaXX0ring imminent. | Jun 14 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Do you find it really hillarious that a XBOX 360 with wifi, hard drive, and motion sensing will set you back $550 while the PS3 already has all that plus Blu Ray and costs $200? | Jun 14 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 21:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Linux is as secure as ever - http://bit.ly/9ZlpZ9 wise words from @sjvn, putting that IRC hack in context #security #linux | Jun 14 21:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | XBOX 360, now $199 (And we'll sell you all the missing features you need to make it work later) | Jun 14 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 21:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] {Test} | Jun 14 21:39 | |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call UnrealIRCD "obscure" though :> | Jun 14 21:40 |
| MinceR | then there's the usual openbsd hype | Jun 14 21:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] La guerra de los Jarritos - http://bit.ly/ckPLZM patents are broken, copyright is broken, trademarks are broken... | Jun 14 21:44 | |
| Techrights | Title: La guerra de los Jarritos | San Francisco Bay Guardian .::. Size~: 40.83 KB | Jun 14 21:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking at some Spectrum remakes in Linux.... | Jun 14 21:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just written a rather silly Twitter app with BASH script....very simple, but I can put this to an effective use.... | Jun 14 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] First Steps with Arduino - #webinar http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e/1626 #openhardware | Jun 14 21:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: Webcast: First Steps with Arduino .::. Size~: 18.72 KB | Jun 14 21:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, I may watch a little Big Brother now.... | Jun 14 21:52 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm talking to someone at Red Hat | Jun 14 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | over what looks like some xfsprogs modifications made by Samsung | Jun 14 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 21:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Free software in Africa: Striding ahead - http://bit.ly/aLQ6YC great review: "it is unbelievable how far FOSSFA has come in a short while" | Jun 14 21:58 | |
| Techrights | Title: Free software in Africa: Striding ahead : Tectonic - The Source for Open Source News .::. Size~: 35.45 KB | Jun 14 21:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Remember to go and visit Libre.fm - a great new project | Jun 14 21:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Ok, no problem :-) | Jun 14 22:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin #RedHat claims fastest growing OS - http://tinyurl.com/2bbr3ug #linux #foss | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: TechDay - Red Hat claims fastest growing OS .::. Size~: 21.45 KB | Jun 14 22:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just chatted with @AmyStephen and Robert Vining from the Jooma! community - what lovely people. :-) | Jun 14 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Eric Sandeen questions if the soruce code Samsung gave me is real or not | Jun 14 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Why exactly is a Blu Ray player using XFS? | Jun 14 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | <sandeen`> I have no earthly idea | Jun 14 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> The storage is not a hard drive | Jun 14 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | <sandeen`> makes me wonder if the software package they gave you is relevant to the machine at all :) | Jun 14 22:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] IEEE working group considers kinder, gentler DRM - http://bit.ly/9gn9Nt they miss the point entirely - what a waste of ingenuity #drm #ieee | Jun 14 22:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Cheers...of course keep "reader" as you know I stand by my support of your site firmly. | Jun 14 22:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: IEEE working group considers kinder, gentler DRM .::. Size~: 30.88 KB | Jun 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | [21:37] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Do you find it really hillarious that a XBOX 360 with wifi, hard drive, and motion sensing will set you back $550 while the PS3 already has all that plus Blu Ray and costs $200? | Jun 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes, there's that | Jun 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should just give xbox 360 away | Jun 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Kinder and gentler DRM | Jun 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz | XboxSpark(R) | Jun 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Is that like the police going after you with a taser instead of the MP-5? | Jun 14 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 14 22:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Jason Hiner pays his rent. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=5016 | Jun 14 22:09 | |
| Techrights | Title: TechRepublic Blogs: For IT professionals, by IT professionals .::. Size~: 85.22 KB | Jun 14 22:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz If you were wondering why the TR RSS feed was missing from Openbytes I only noticed today and its because by mistake | Jun 14 22:10 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, New features are coming to Hotmail. | Jun 14 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | according to the spam I just got | Jun 14 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 22:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I replaced it with Distrowatch (instead of adding it). Ive been too lazy to update but it is on my list of things to do... | Jun 14 22:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody re "patents are broken, copyright is broken, trademarks are broken" >depends to whom? The oppressor of the oppressed? | Jun 14 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | the features include a spam filter that works | Jun 14 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 22:11 |
| schestowitz | [21:52] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I'm talking to someone at Red Hat | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Sweep away unwanted email | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | As you complete email actions like deleting email or moving email into folders, the new Sweep tool will prompt you to see if you wish to automatically apply that action to all similar email in the future." | Jun 14 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Enforcement? | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | What could go wrong? | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, No, Eric Sandeen | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | their file system something-or-other | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They also force you to use "SkyDrive" now | Jun 14 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | they no logner wil lsend standard attachments | Jun 14 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | just a link to where the other person can download it on SkyDrive | Jun 14 22:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz broken in the sense not working - so they become instruments of oppression | Jun 14 22:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Also, MS Office web apps are now going to be embedded into Hotmail | Jun 14 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Making it easier to destroy an ODF I presume | Jun 14 22:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Remember to go and visit Libre.fm - a great new project > indeed | Jun 14 22:15 | |
| DaemonFC | I guess the SkyDrive part makes sense for lowering their bandwidth costs | Jun 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | but it also means that anything sent or received falls under sata retention laws | Jun 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | *data | Jun 14 22:16 |
| MinceR | *satan retention laws | Jun 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, what he said | Jun 14 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 22:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera #1 they make him an MVP; #2 they help him get by.... | Jun 14 22:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I saw it had vanished and wondered if we disappointed you | Jun 14 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | Why does my fridge smell like coffee? | Jun 14 22:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody like DRM, it's part of the class war | Jun 14 22:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Not at all. The removal of BN logo was intentional since its now TR...Didn't you notice I was still RT'ing you? | Jun 14 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC | the coffee is in the freezer, which does not smell like coffeee | Jun 14 22:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I do have to get a new picture for the sidebar too....but Ive been quite busy, hence Ive not posted as much recently. | Jun 14 22:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz The RSS is now sorted..... | Jun 14 22:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I noticed you've been busy, so I wasn't offended | Jun 14 22:21 | |
| DaemonFC | http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2009-10/msg00241.html | Jun 14 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 14 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | coffee beans? | Jun 14 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Why do you do sniffing in the refrigerator anyway? | Jun 14 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't | Jun 14 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | the smell of coffee just fills the room when I open the fridge | Jun 14 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | I just cleaned the damned thing out last month, it shouldn't smell like anything | Jun 14 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | much less something that's not in there | Jun 14 22:22 |
| schestowitz | ajax | Jun 14 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft AJAX | Jun 14 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | or Ajax the cleaner? | Jun 14 22:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @schestowitz Some of these people are so brazen with apparently no embarrassment caused by what they are doing. | Jun 14 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apparently SGI is not doing anything to XFS other than pulling in other people's code that's not ready yet and calling it a version | Jun 14 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | and if you use anything other than what's shipped with the Linux kernel, you are insane | Jun 14 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 14 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | SGI killed IRIX and the only OS that's using XFS in production environments is Linux, and SGI is not willing to put man hours into maintaining XFS properly, but they don't want to "let it go" either | Jun 14 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | so they're releasing their own versions outside if the Linux kernel code review process | Jun 14 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | and things are quite broken if you pull your "releases" from SGI | Jun 14 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I gather | Jun 14 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | yay PR | Jun 14 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Did you know that SGI is the definitive source for all things XFS? | Jun 14 22:30 |
| MinceR | i did | Jun 14 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | even though they're just rubbernecking | Jun 14 22:30 |
| MinceR | but i don't care about XFS | Jun 14 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | but XFS cares about you | Jun 14 22:31 |
| MinceR | yeah, it cares so much it killed some of my files | Jun 14 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @satipera it's not as crass as his monthly attacks on Linux | Jun 14 22:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Thanks for all the suggestions, keep them coming! | Jun 14 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, When was this? | Jun 14 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard about it screwing up in old versions, like years back | Jun 14 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've never lost a single file to anything other than Ext4 | Jun 14 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 22:34 |
| MinceR | long ago | Jun 14 22:35 |
| MinceR | back when i was still using gentoo | Jun 14 22:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Hammering though the 'ol email. Feels good. As in, the hammering, not the email. | Jun 14 22:36 | |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 14 22:36 |
| *DaemonFC feeds jono some of the microwavable bacon burgers | Jun 14 22:38 | |
| DaemonFC | muahahahaaaaaa!!! | Jun 14 22:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Watched a few minutes of Big Brother...not that interested | Jun 14 22:42 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You used Gentoo? | Jun 14 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | You must have too much time on your hands | Jun 14 22:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Been looking at some very good pygame projects | Jun 14 22:47 | |
| MinceR | i thought my first priority was performance | Jun 14 22:47 |
| MinceR | but i had to realize that it wasn't | Jun 14 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | here, spend 5 hours compiling this | Jun 14 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | it will run 0.5% faster | Jun 14 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 14 22:48 |
| MinceR | and i had the 5 hours | Jun 14 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the multimedia stuff I use depends heavily on assembler anyway | Jun 14 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | and cflags make no difference at all | Jun 14 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Gentoo is pretty much all hype | Jun 14 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You know what pisses me off? | Jun 14 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Mythbusters says that powdered non-dairly coffee creamer is "highly flammable" | Jun 14 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | and I can't get it to burn | Jun 14 22:53 |
| MinceR | have they explained why? | Jun 14 22:53 |
| MinceR | and in what conditions? | Jun 14 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | apparently it's more flammable in aerosolized form | Jun 14 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | but for obvious reasons I don't want to attempt that | Jun 14 22:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 14 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | boredom should never result in an Emergency Room visit | Jun 14 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 22:54 |
| MinceR | like they say, "no pain, no gain" | Jun 14 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | burned alive while trying to set fire to coffee creamer | Jun 14 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | send that to his insurance company | Jun 14 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 22:55 |
| MinceR | they too need some entertainment | Jun 14 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | "HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! We're not paying. Teeeeheeeeheehehehehe!!!! ROFL!!!! Bob, get in here and look at this!!!" | Jun 14 22:57 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, My quest to beautify Windows 7 is a partial success | Jun 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Operation Turd Polishing | Jun 14 22:59 |
| MinceR | that's an easy quest | Jun 14 22:59 |
| MinceR | all you need is a gnu/linux install disc | Jun 14 22:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Disco 2000. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/539270.html | Jun 14 23:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: reddragdiva | Disco 2000. .::. Size~: 29.49 KB | Jun 14 23:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What is the use of pure CSS http://bit.ly/cqjQlT when browser can display images, ofcourse it is fun to see such experiments #css | Jun 14 23:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why do I still use my old Napster sign in name on all the file sharing websites I use? | Jun 14 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 14 23:06 |
| MinceR | ask yourself :> | Jun 14 23:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Why do two days off seem like < 1 day at work...back to the grind on Tuesday :( | Jun 14 23:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh "Winamp is getting bloated and full of spam" | Jun 14 23:08 |
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| DaemonFC | People are just now noticing? | Jun 14 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Foobar2000 is an interesting idea | Jun 14 23:08 |
| MinceR | i prefer Audacious | Jun 14 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's closed source but the SDK is BSD-licensed | Jun 14 23:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Inertial mass separate to gravitational mass!! http://is.gd/cPjXh HOLY FUCKING SHIT | Jun 14 23:09 | |
| MinceR | even if it crashes occasionally | Jun 14 23:09 |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Inertial Mass Separate From Gravitational Mass? .::. Size~: 137.27 KB | Jun 14 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | and it uses mostly all open source codecs | Jun 14 23:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: so in other words it's a nonfree parasite on the free software community? :> | Jun 14 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice when you can use open source to let people write most of your application for you and yet retain the sole rights to the combined work | Jun 14 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 23:09 |
| MinceR | plus it's winblows-only, isn't it? | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | essentially the only thing he wrote is a plug-in interface and a GUI | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | and he gets to control all of it :D | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes and no | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | it works reasonably well in Wine | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's enough for uTorrent to claim it's cross platform | Jun 14 23:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got quite alot done today...Tried to keep away from IRC for most of it (to avoid distraction!) | Jun 14 23:12 | |
| cubezzz | bah, use rtorrent | Jun 14 23:12 |
| cubezzz | tons more efficient | Jun 14 23:12 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 14 23:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Reading up on capturing mouse events with a Bash script. Its very simple really..I can put it to good use. | Jun 14 23:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] One Day One Command - via - sms http://post.ly/jWYw | Jun 14 23:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: One Day One Command - via - sms - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 27.24 KB | Jun 14 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I find that the ALAC decoding support is nice | Jun 14 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | for when some boner biting bastard posts something in Apple Lossless | Jun 14 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's one of my uses for it :D | Jun 14 23:28 |
| MinceR | or you could convert it to FLAC once and forget about it | Jun 14 23:29 |
| MinceR | the joys of lossless compression :> | Jun 14 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's what I mean | Jun 14 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | it can decode the ALAC and re-encode it as FLAC | Jun 14 23:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] How many M&A suffer from incompatible IT systems? Vendor Lock-In is a business risk. #openstandards | Jun 14 23:31 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's funny, I was posting FLAC files and people would bitch at me for using FLAC instead of ALAC | Jun 14 23:31 |
| MinceR | they're crApple cultists, ridicule them | Jun 14 23:32 |
| *MinceR goes to get some sleep | Jun 14 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC | so I posted a sticky that said "I'm not using ALAC and making bigger files that have limited support just so your overpriced Crapple PMPs are happy with it" | Jun 14 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | then I still got complaints | Jun 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | so I deleted or transcoded all of their ALAC files | Jun 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | and set bans on all their accounts for 30 days | Jun 14 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | posted another sticky inviting them to all come back in a month if they agree to use FLAC and not complain about it | Jun 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's not so much that they were crapping up my forum with ALAC, as they were complaining to me that that's all that should be allowed | Jun 14 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | so now it's a standing rule that any upload that's not FLAC, MP3, or Ogg is a ban :D | Jun 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | with no further explanation | Jun 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.discogs.com/lists/Crackedcoms-The-25-Worst-Rapper-Names-Of-All-Time/18199 | Jun 14 23:41 |
| Techrights | Title: Cracked.com's "The 25 Worst Rapper Names Of All Time" .::. Size~: 33.13 KB | Jun 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | "Noreaga" | Jun 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | really? | Jun 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Why would anyone name themselves after a dictator that was so ineffective that they were defeated by George Bush Sr.? | Jun 14 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | That's even worse than naming yourself a homophone of Saddam Hussein | Jun 14 23:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] libre.fm shows promise - and you should obviously check out http://is.gd/cPm1R :-) #severedfifth | Jun 14 23:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Go and listen to http://is.gd/cPm1R and let's make it a popular artist. :-) | Jun 14 23:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks Reminder: Lots of unexpected legal expenses, at this moment, your support will be of instant help http://bit.ly/bBCaKg | Jun 14 23:57 | |
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