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DaemonFChmmm, I found the definition of when he's required to register a second addressJun 19 00:01
DaemonFC"other address where the sex or violent offender spends more than seven (7) nights in a fourteen (14) day period, and mailing address, if different from the sex or violent offender's principal residence address."Jun 19 00:01
DaemonFCso if he spends half his time here, he has to register here tooJun 19 00:01
DaemonFCor else he's committing a D FelonyJun 19 00:01
DaemonFCthey'll probably just warn himJun 19 00:03
AntiPudd1ngi don't see yet how to get two operating systems running at once, with alternating control of my video cardJun 19 00:03
DaemonFCbut then again, it does make the property value go downJun 19 00:03
MinceRdual booting? :>Jun 19 00:03
DaemonFCcould guard against a rent increaseJun 19 00:03
DaemonFCI think Obama has lost his re-election in filing that suit to block the Arizona immigration lawJun 19 00:08
DaemonFCmost people support that lawJun 19 00:08
DaemonFCpassing it was probably designed to lure the feds into thisJun 19 00:09
DaemonFC?This is no way to treat the people of Arizona,? the governor said in a statement. ?To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the Secretary of State is just outrageous. If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation.?Jun 19 00:12
DaemonFChehJun 19 00:12
DaemonFCThe bitch of it is that whatever Obama does, he losesJun 19 00:14
DaemonFCeven if he wins the lawsuitJun 19 00:14
DaemonFCthe fact that the feds are moving in will be branded as a "Federal power grab" no matter what happensJun 19 00:14
DaemonFCIf the court does determine that only the Federal government has the power to decide immigration laws, it will most likely be based on what is implied by the section of the US constitution dealing with foreign treatiesJun 19 00:16
DaemonFCthat's kind of shaky grounds for a lawsuitJun 19 00:16
DaemonFCI don't know of any federal laws that say a state can't do thisJun 19 00:16
DaemonFCof course it's the federal court system so they'll invent oneJun 19 00:16
DaemonFCthat just makes things look even worseJun 19 00:17
DaemonFCand even if they win on solid legal grounds, they still piss off a lot of registered voters, myself included, who don't want illegal aliens hereJun 19 00:17
DaemonFCand if they lose the lawsuit, it looks even worse than winning it because it was a failed Federal power grab that goes against the wishes of the majority, and was defeated by a stateJun 19 00:18
DaemonFC:)Jun 19 00:18
DaemonFCnow it's open season on the Feds while other states pass laws declaring their ability to handle functions of the central governmentJun 19 00:19
DaemonFC:DJun 19 00:19
DaemonFCbut if he had done nothing, it would have also been open seasonJun 19 00:20
DaemonFCMinceR: How about a nice game of Tic Tac Toe? :PJun 19 00:20
MinceRLater. Let's play Global Thermonuclear War.Jun 19 00:21
DaemonFCWelcome Mr. President.........Jun 19 00:21
DaemonFCDakota 492Jun 19 00:21
DaemonFCB-)Jun 19 00:21
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wk6jSNZU8&feature=relatedJun 19 00:25
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Global Thermonuclear War .::. Size~: 91.01 KBJun 19 00:25
DaemonFC:DJun 19 00:25
MinceRgnJun 19 00:27
AntiPudd1ngMinceR: that's horribly crude ..  we should be past that stageJun 19 00:27
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo&feature=relatedJun 19 00:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- That scene from War Games .::. Size~: 86.38 KBJun 19 00:28
MinceRyes, and the human species should either be civilized or extinctJun 19 00:31
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schestowitzThat's not a conditionJun 19 00:43
schestowitzA modernised species that's not civilised can destory itselfJun 19 00:43
schestowitzSo people need to be taught to abandon misguised notionJun 19 00:43
schestowitz*misguidedJun 19 00:44
schestowitzSpeaking of misguided... :-)Jun 19 00:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjINoP0OE0&feature=relatedJun 19 00:44
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Richard Dawkins Interviews Creationist Wendy Wright (Part 4/7) .::. Size~: 95.88 KBJun 19 00:44
schestowitzIt's amazing how many people are deliberately dishonest or fool themselvesJun 19 00:44
DaemonFChttp://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/96676934.htmlJun 19 00:44
TechrightsTitle: Sign Of The Times: Lassus Store Says No BP Sold Here | Indiana's NewsCenter: News, Sports, Weather, Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, CW, and My Network| Local & Regional .::. Size~: 70.37 KBJun 19 00:44
*schestowitz gets BP news fatigueJun 19 00:45
cubezzzneither knowsJun 19 00:58
cubezzznot the scientists, nor the creationistsJun 19 00:58
cubezzzthe only truth is to say you don't knowJun 19 00:58
cubezzzpeople don't like to say that thoughJun 19 00:58
schestowitz"@jzb, I think !fsf is open to constructive feedback; you & I have even discussed it offline. But public lambaste isn't constructive, though." http://identi.ca/notice/36827405Jun 19 00:59
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 11:46:44 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.04 KBJun 19 00:59
schestowitzFSF unhappy with Novell's zonkerJun 19 00:59
DaemonFCschestowitz is trying his damndest to peg me as a far right wing evangelical science-hater because I go to the chiropractorJun 19 00:59
DaemonFCB-)Jun 19 00:59
schestowitzNopeJun 19 01:00
schestowitzJust that you daemonise MDsJun 19 01:00
DaemonFCI still counter that it's a fraction of the price of the MD, many times more effective, there's no dead patients, and I'm not being sold into slavery to pay a drug cartelJun 19 01:00
schestowitzNotice in BN I don't denounce medical drugsJun 19 01:00
schestowitzI condone the workJun 19 01:00
DaemonFCoh shitJun 19 01:00
DaemonFCstorm just came out of nowhereJun 19 01:00
schestowitzThe issue I have is different and I try to bring that up to exclude myself from sciencephobsJun 19 01:00
DaemonFCmajor pressure changeJun 19 01:00
DaemonFCnot goodJun 19 01:00
schestowitzQuick! Hide the jabb!Jun 19 01:01
schestowitzPut it in the microwaveJun 19 01:01
schestowitz:-pJun 19 01:01
schestowitzJust don't mistakenly hit any of the bottomsJun 19 01:01
schestowitz*unsJun 19 01:01
DaemonFChe's hiding under the TVJun 19 01:02
DaemonFCfailJun 19 01:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36828973 "@jzb, I appreciate that feedback. My point is: you're using a tactic !FSF reserves for only most nasty practices to get your message to us."Jun 19 01:02
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 12:00:35 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.03 KBJun 19 01:02
DaemonFCahhhhJun 19 01:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: I hope you get the humours tone acrossJun 19 01:02
DaemonFChere he goesJun 19 01:02
schestowitz*humourousJun 19 01:02
schestowitz[00:58] <cubezzz> neither knowsJun 19 01:02
DaemonFCyesJun 19 01:02
schestowitzDepends on /what/ it knowsJun 19 01:02
schestowitzI mean, we can't tell for sure how black holes workJun 19 01:02
schestowitzBut we do know a lot about DNAJun 19 01:02
DaemonFCthat's going to be a nasty stormJun 19 01:03
DaemonFCblack clouds rotatingJun 19 01:03
cubezzzI was talking about metaphysical questions like "where did the universe come from?"Jun 19 01:03
DaemonFCwind blowingJun 19 01:03
DaemonFCgahJun 19 01:03
schestowitzThe creationist crowd like to go to unknowns outside of biology and use that to show that we don't know everything, _yet_Jun 19 01:03
cubezzzwe don't really knowJun 19 01:03
schestowitzDoing experiments around black holes is hard cause we have none around herJun 19 01:03
schestowitz[that we know of]Jun 19 01:03
cubezzzwe can't even get to Mars never mind black holesJun 19 01:04
schestowitzcubezzz: there are things we do knowJun 19 01:04
schestowitzLike the expansionJun 19 01:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: You notice how much less reliable the Weather Channel's website has beenJun 19 01:04
DaemonFCever since thewy changed to ASP.NETJun 19 01:04
schestowitzcubezzz: we have robots in Mars right nowJun 19 01:05
schestowitzThey run free/libre software :-)Jun 19 01:05
cubezzzyes, but no humans on MarsJun 19 01:05
DaemonFCvxwors ins nonfreeJun 19 01:05
schestowitzNeed terraformingJun 19 01:05
DaemonFC*vxworksJun 19 01:05
cubezzz"we can't get to Mars"Jun 19 01:05
cubezzzwhich is trueJun 19 01:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: it has more on the stackJun 19 01:05
schestowitzcubezzz: we can'tJun 19 01:05
schestowitz*we canJun 19 01:05
schestowitzIt's just not inhibitableJun 19 01:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: My DSL modem/router runs LinuxJun 19 01:06
schestowitzFor our bodies (DNA) that evolved hereJun 19 01:06
DaemonFCNetgear has the source code postedJun 19 01:06
DaemonFCthey, unlike Samsung, seem to post everything before someone asksJun 19 01:06
DaemonFC:)Jun 19 01:06
schestowitzWe could breed and generate life that's better suited to MarsJun 19 01:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: they have toJun 19 01:06
DaemonFCschestowitz: Would be nice if all hardware makers voluntarily complied that wellJun 19 01:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36828456 "@jzb, another point: it's one thing to publicly lambaste people working AGAINST you, but you claim to share !fsf 's goals in your attack?"Jun 19 01:07
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 11:56:09 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.03 KBJun 19 01:07
schestowitzWhaoJun 19 01:07
schestowitzDramaJun 19 01:07
DaemonFCI don't consider arm twisting to be voluntary complianceJun 19 01:07
DaemonFCBradley Kuhn is fairly abrasiveJun 19 01:07
DaemonFCI'm not going to say hostileJun 19 01:07
DaemonFCbut abrasiveJun 19 01:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36835994 http://identi.ca/notice/36838540Jun 19 01:08
TechrightsTitle: Ben Finney (bignose) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 12:57:36 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.03 KBJun 19 01:08
TechrightsTitle: Ben Finney (bignose) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 13:17:54 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.91 KBJun 19 01:08
schestowitzZonker is finished in gnu/fsf circlesJun 19 01:08
schestowitz[01:07] <DaemonFC> Bradley Kuhn is fairly abrasiveJun 19 01:08
schestowitzVainJun 19 01:08
schestowitzIMHOJun 19 01:08
DaemonFCschestowitz: I consider "voluntary compliance" to mean doing the right thing before someone even has to askJun 19 01:08
cubezzzsomeone should talk about memory creepJun 19 01:08
schestowitzHe could tone it down a bitJun 19 01:08
schestowitzWhen I do interviews I'm always friendly and I don't interruptJun 19 01:08
schestowitzRMS is also a bit rudeJun 19 01:09
schestowitzHe doesn't let people finishJun 19 01:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: I got the impression he was annoyed with me for being mad that there was a SIX WEEK turnaround between when I asked Samsung and when I ended up getting the source codeJun 19 01:09
schestowitzExtreme example: Bill ORLYJun 19 01:09
schestowitzFoaming at the mouthJun 19 01:09
DaemonFCwhich has yielded some useful patches btwJun 19 01:09
DaemonFCthere were several patches against libptp and xfsprogsJun 19 01:09
DaemonFCthat I know ofJun 19 01:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: he wasJun 19 01:10
schestowitzHe complained about you complaining about SamsungJun 19 01:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: six weeks is not OK in my bookJun 19 01:10
schestowitzAnyway, techrights is its own thingJun 19 01:10
DaemonFCa few weeks would have been fineJun 19 01:10
DaemonFCthat zip file was hugeJun 19 01:10
schestowitzWe were /never/ associated with anything elseJun 19 01:10
schestowitzDaemonFC: online , the zip?Jun 19 01:11
DaemonFCyeahJun 19 01:11
DaemonFC311 MBJun 19 01:11
schestowitzCause they should put it up publicly and I think they need to give the URL tooJun 19 01:11
schestowitzLike putting it somewhere on the boxJun 19 01:11
schestowitzopensouce.<company>.com is commonJun 19 01:11
schestowitz*sourceJun 19 01:11
DaemonFCthat's what I mean, put it up before anyone has to askJun 19 01:11
DaemonFCthat would be niceJun 19 01:11
DaemonFCand make it clear where to go from the Support section in the fwJun 19 01:11
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36837690Jun 19 01:12
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 13:10:44 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.04 KBJun 19 01:12
DaemonFCschestowitz:  Sandeen was amused that they used XFS on a Blu Ray playerJun 19 01:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36828232 "so I'm confused: it's ok if @jzb launches negative campaign out of the blue, but unacceptable if !fsf does it as a last resort?"Jun 19 01:12
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 11:54:03 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.17 KBJun 19 01:12
DaemonFChe told me he's going to add them to the people that use XFS list on the XFS websiteJun 19 01:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/36827967 "last resort only. !fsf spent decades of positive work to end DRM & proprietary sw. How many decades did you try bf. going negative?"Jun 19 01:12
TechrightsTitle: Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn) 's status on Friday, 18-Jun-10 11:51:42 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.04 KBJun 19 01:12
cubezzzmemory creep: each iteration of an OS needs more and more memory to runJun 19 01:13
cubezzztry running modern linux with less than 256 megsJun 19 01:13
cubezzzit's not prettyJun 19 01:13
DaemonFCschestowitz: We don't sit criminals down to try to talk things overJun 19 01:13
DaemonFCwe don't patiently wait 10 years for them to bring themselves into complianceJun 19 01:14
DaemonFCsurely not?Jun 19 01:14
schestowitzcubezzz: I have one at homeJun 19 01:14
schestowitz256mb, kde 3.5Jun 19 01:14
schestowitzdepends on the apps you run, it's OKJun 19 01:14
schestowitzJust don't use Firefox/amarok/etcJun 19 01:14
cubezzzwhich distro?Jun 19 01:14
schestowitzBuntu Jun 19 01:14
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schestowitzI haven't powered it up in 2 yearsJun 19 01:15
schestowitzMaybe it won't even start, who knows...Jun 19 01:15
schestowitzI would give this box away if I know who toJun 19 01:15
schestowitzBought it in 2005Jun 19 01:15
cubezzzI can easily run Linux 2.2.26 in 16 megs of ramJun 19 01:15
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/news/17/2010/193Jun 19 01:16
TechrightsTitle: Open Source Can Control Hooliganism | Muktware .::. Size~: 21.05 KBJun 19 01:16
cubezzzthe newest 2.2Jun 19 01:16
cubezzzit's good for ssh and top and stuff like thatJun 19 01:16
DaemonFCyeah, 2.4 has been on life support for agesJun 19 01:16
schestowitzLinux is a pet project... becomes more like its owner over timeJun 19 01:16
DaemonFCjust because of embedded hardwareJun 19 01:16
DaemonFCbut even that will be abandoned eventuallyJun 19 01:16
cubezzzI suppose I could adapt modern linux to run in less memoryJun 19 01:17
cubezzza lot of memory is used by the video card driverJun 19 01:17
DaemonFCa lot of the changes to 2.4.x have been backports of 2.6.x driversJun 19 01:17
DaemonFClike e1000Jun 19 01:17
DaemonFCminor bugfixesJun 19 01:18
DaemonFCthat sort of thingJun 19 01:18
cubezzzbut when it starts getting bigger and bigger for no good reason...Jun 19 01:18
schestowitzIPjur: The EU Patent and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - TFEU http://www.digitalmajority.org/forum/t-248535Jun 19 01:18
TechrightsTitle: News picks: IPjur: The EU Patent and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union - TFEU .::. Size~: 27.58 KBJun 19 01:18
schestowitzOooh, nice. We're citedJun 19 01:18
DaemonFCLinux is not big because it's full of useless crapJun 19 01:18
DaemonFCLinux is big because it has to do a lot of thingsJun 19 01:18
AntiPudd1nglike a hungarian peasant womanJun 19 01:19
DaemonFC2.4 series is not capable of scaling like 2.6 isJun 19 01:19
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DaemonFCI think 2.4 series on has very bad SMP x2 supportJun 19 01:19
AntiPudd1ngit's like there's another person chatting here that i can't seeJun 19 01:19
DaemonFC2.6 has very good support for SMP x 8192Jun 19 01:19
AntiPudd1ngnobody on ignore, ok nmJun 19 01:20
DaemonFC*onlyJun 19 01:20
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DaemonFCkilling off the big kernel lock has enabled 2.6 to scale more and more with every releaseJun 19 01:20
schestowitzhttp://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-06-14-lightcigarettes14_ST_N.htmJun 19 01:20
TechrightsTitle: Changes in cigarette pack colors called not so mild - USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 57.75 KBJun 19 01:20
DaemonFCthere's been some legacy mistakes like reiserfs in mainline that are slowing this downJun 19 01:20
DaemonFCas far as I know, reiserfs does not depend on the BKL anymoreJun 19 01:21
DaemonFCbut removing that dependency has slowed it down a lotJun 19 01:21
DaemonFCreiserfs is wholly inappropriate for a machine with more than one CPUJun 19 01:21
AntiPudd1ngThe FDA "should conduct a thorough science-based review and then ban any deceptive use of colors," Waxman said.Jun 19 01:22
DaemonFCdeceptive use of colorsJun 19 01:22
*DaemonFC facepalmsJun 19 01:22
DaemonFCI'll take some Marlboro RainbowsJun 19 01:22
DaemonFCthey look FABULOUS!!!Jun 19 01:22
DaemonFCdammit, I was misleadJun 19 01:22
DaemonFCcurse you RJ Reynolds!!!Jun 19 01:22
schestowitzhttp://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/06/be-true-soccer-fan-get-vuvuzela.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29 "The noisy horn that has become a trademark of the FIFA World Cup in South Africa." for shizzle?Jun 19 01:22
TechrightsTitle: Be a true soccer fan- Get the Vuvuzela experience right in your home | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 66.98 KBJun 19 01:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: I think people should be allowed to smoke, provided one conditionJun 19 01:23
AntiPudd1ng:)Jun 19 01:23
AntiPudd1ngi found the packages coloring quite effectiveJun 19 01:23
DaemonFCthey either decline participation in social health insurance programsJun 19 01:23
DaemonFCor agree to be double taxedJun 19 01:23
AntiPudd1ngthey do have softer colors than red/white marlboroJun 19 01:23
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DaemonFCB-)Jun 19 01:23
schestowitzall generalisations are false, except this oneJun 19 01:23
DaemonFCall generalizations are true except that oneJun 19 01:24
schestowitzit's lik tobacco placeboJun 19 01:24
AntiPudd1ngDaemonFC: how about people who engage in dangerous sports?  haven't you just identified a problem with social insurance programs themselves?Jun 19 01:24
schestowitzOr when they test pill colour to find out which is more soothingJun 19 01:24
schestowitzmental effectJun 19 01:24
DaemonFCthat some people throw caution to the wind, pay in as much as everyone else, and have 3 tiems as many claims?Jun 19 01:25
DaemonFCyeah that is a problemJun 19 01:25
DaemonFC*timesJun 19 01:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @ebertchicago We're convinced we'll have another lifetime during which we can admire all the stuff we've pack-ratted away.Jun 19 01:25
AntiPudd1ngDr. Hans-Herman Hoppe has some good essays / lectures on this onlineJun 19 01:25
schestowitzhttp://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/06/native-pdf-rendering-coming-to-google.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29 thyey take over everythingJun 19 01:25
TechrightsTitle: Native PDF rendering coming to Google Chrome | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 70.53 KBJun 19 01:25
AntiPudd1ngnature of insurance, private and compulsoryJun 19 01:26
DaemonFCschestowitz: There's an interesting phenomena in social insuranceJun 19 01:26
DaemonFCpeople tend to stub their toe and go to the doc because it's "free"Jun 19 01:26
schestowitz*non?Jun 19 01:26
DaemonFCyeahJun 19 01:26
schestowitzphenomena is pluralJun 19 01:26
DaemonFCcrossed wireJun 19 01:26
schestowitzCommon thingJun 19 01:26
DaemonFCdoesn't your system charge people for their own frivolous claims?Jun 19 01:27
schestowitzI still see "sneak peek" mispelled most of the timeJun 19 01:27
schestowitzThe typos become infectiousJun 19 01:27
DaemonFClike people do stupid shit and hurt themselves and it's totally their faultJun 19 01:27
schestowitzNoJun 19 01:27
DaemonFCyour system doesn't pay for that does it?Jun 19 01:27
cubezzzwe shouldn't have misspellings in the computer ageJun 19 01:27
schestowitzThat's the US madnessJun 19 01:27
schestowitzBut it's funnyJun 19 01:27
schestowitzIn the jacuzzi I use they need to state depthJun 19 01:28
schestowitzThere's the whole liability thingJun 19 01:28
schestowitzBut US takes it to the extremeJun 19 01:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'll give you an example. The people who had rented the house my mom lives in now put mattresses out on the lawnJun 19 01:28
DaemonFCand threw themselves out of the second floor windowsJun 19 01:28
DaemonFCnow if this was the UK....Jun 19 01:28
schestowitzcubezzz: "sneak peak" passes spell checker testJun 19 01:28
DaemonFCwho pays when the dumbass breaks his damned neck?Jun 19 01:29
schestowitzand if people google it, they'll find the same mistake approvedJun 19 01:29
DaemonFCB-)Jun 19 01:29
cubezzzschestowitz, then: curl dict://dict.org/d:$1Jun 19 01:29
cubezzznot very hardJun 19 01:29
schestowitzIn old KDE I had a nice widget for itJun 19 01:30
schestowitzLinux changes too fastJun 19 01:30
cubezzznahJun 19 01:30
AntiPudd1ngDaemonFC: it leads very directly to some important, stark ethical questionsJun 19 01:30
cubezzzI did say curl yes? :)Jun 19 01:30
schestowitzYou're Canadian, so...Jun 19 01:30
cubezzzno one likes command line any more?Jun 19 01:30
AntiPudd1ngmeJun 19 01:31
cubezzzok, one drawback... it needs the net to workJun 19 01:31
cubezzzbut assuming that it does work, it works wellJun 19 01:31
cubezzzschestowitz, it's using "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English"Jun 19 01:32
cubezzzso multiple accepted spellingsJun 19 01:32
cubezzzwhich is good for the netJun 19 01:32
DaemonFCto a certain extent, socialized medicine must lead to an increase in irresponsibility Jun 19 01:32
DaemonFCpeople know they can be idiots and going to the doctor is freeJun 19 01:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: off you go again right-wingJun 19 01:33
cubezzzsometimes I wonder if people have stopped thinkingJun 19 01:33
schestowitz"horror stories" for single payer?Jun 19 01:33
schestowitzcubezzz: noJun 19 01:33
schestowitzThey bought an hypePadJun 19 01:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: People already do stupid shit because they know they won't pay their bill anywayJun 19 01:34
DaemonFCso I guess it might be a washJun 19 01:34
cubezzzI thought they did in the StatesJun 19 01:34
schestowitzDumb people don't think about insuranceJun 19 01:36
cubezzztrue text based should be used more oftenJun 19 01:36
schestowitzIt's just a circular argumentJun 19 01:36
cubezzzit's always faster than using bit-maps I thinkJun 19 01:36
schestowitzhttp://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/06/16/725-swimming-next-to-the-oceanJun 19 01:37
TechrightsTitle: Swimming next to the ocean - Diary of a CrazyFrench .::. Size~: 20.71 KBJun 19 01:37
schestowitzcubezzz: learning curveJun 19 01:37
DaemonFCschestowitz: I guess it's just unfortunate that people help someone who threw themselves out of a second floor window onto a mattress, for fun, in the first placeJun 19 01:37
DaemonFC:DJun 19 01:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Polar bear shaking off water [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/aDARvJun 19 01:37
TechrightsTitle: Polar bear shaking off water on Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 52.3 KBJun 19 01:37
cubezzzschestowitz, I would submit to you that text based interface is easier to learn than a GUIJun 19 01:37
cubezzztests have been done with old people who never used computers beforeJun 19 01:38
schestowitzDepends on the taskJun 19 01:38
schestowitzTrying drawing with ncursesJun 19 01:38
cubezzzthe idea that you can have a window pop up asyncronously can be very distractingJun 19 01:38
DaemonFChttp://mobile.latimes.com/inf/infomo;jsessionid=CD70C76C943DBF54FB54.157?view=page1&feed:a=latimes_1min&feed:c=nationnews&feed:i=54410765&nopaging=1Jun 19 01:39
TechrightsTitle: National: Death by firing squad highlights old execution method .::. Size~: 19.27 KBJun 19 01:39
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/google-releases-command-line-tool-for-accessing-web-services.arsJun 19 01:39
DaemonFC"Five marksmen fired, and Gardner slumped down. To ease the psychological burden on the executioners, one of them was given a blank round, but none knew who. "Jun 19 01:39
TechrightsTitle: Google releases command line tool for accessing Web services .::. Size~: 27.27 KBJun 19 01:39
schestowitzJust in..Jun 19 01:39
DaemonFClolJun 19 01:39
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schestowitzDaemonFC: PR stuntJun 19 01:40
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schestowitzThey could bring one of the boys from Iraq - those who actively look for actionJun 19 01:40
cubezzzschestowitz, drawing on the computer is an odd thing to doJun 19 01:41
cubezzzI never really felt I had full control Jun 19 01:41
DaemonFC"Problems still persist: In September, executioners in Ohio spent two hours trying to inject lethal drugs into a death penalty inmate, who at one point tried to help medical workers find the right vein. It's unclear whether the courts will allow him to be brought into the death chamber a second time."Jun 19 01:41
DaemonFClmaoJun 19 01:41
schestowitzNow each shooter can say he killed  0.8 of a  manJun 19 01:41
DaemonFC"Oh fuck it, give me that damned thing"Jun 19 01:42
DaemonFClolJun 19 01:42
schestowitzYikesJun 19 01:42
schestowitzLet him suffer moreJun 19 01:42
schestowitzThey probably deserve it sometimes anywayJun 19 01:42
schestowitzHere we don't have death penaltyJun 19 01:42
DaemonFCI know thatJun 19 01:42
schestowitzThey could make HellOnEarth(R)Jun 19 01:42
schestowitzA device for evaluating hell for brutal criminaklsJun 19 01:43
schestowitzThat would deter more criminals than just quick deathJun 19 01:43
schestowitz[01:41] <DaemonFC> "Problems still persist: In September, executioners in Ohio spent two hours trying to inject lethal drugs into a death penalty inmate, who at one point tried to help medical workers find the right vein. It's unclear whether the courts will allow him to be brought into the death chamber a second time."Jun 19 01:43
schestowitzThey probably just wanna save moneyJun 19 01:43
schestowitzFavourite last meal and allJun 19 01:44
DaemonFC"Capital punishment in the United Kingdom was abolished in the twentieth century. The last executions in the United Kingdom, by hanging, took place in 1964, prior to capital punishment being abolished for murder (in 1969 in Great Britain and in 1973 in Northern Ireland). Although not applied since, the death penalty remained on the statute book for certain other offences until 1998."Jun 19 01:44
DaemonFCTreason?Jun 19 01:44
schestowitzCharlie won't go to Burger Kind againJun 19 01:44
schestowitz*KingJun 19 01:44
schestowitzRyan Paul promotes the anti-FSF line http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/the-free-software-foundations-advocacy.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssamp;comments=1Jun 19 01:45
TechrightsTitle: The FSF's advocacy campaigns have grown increasingly negative in recent years, with a focus on attacking mainstream products like the iPad and Windows 7. Such tactics attract headlines, but don't seem to resonate with regular consumers. .::. Size~: 24.54 KBJun 19 01:45
schestowitzHe seems to agree w/ thatJun 19 01:45
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DaemonFC"A November 2009 television survey showed that 70% favoured reinstating the death penalty for at least one of the following crimes: armed robbery, rape, paedophilia, terrorism, adult murder, child murder, child rape, treason, child abuse, or kidnapping."Jun 19 01:48
DaemonFCso the majority of people are saneJun 19 01:48
DaemonFCand the minority is getting their wayJun 19 01:48
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schestowitzDaemonFC: which country?Jun 19 01:51
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/17/cutting-emissions-not-fix-water-cycleJun 19 01:52
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DaemonFCyes, dig deep friendsJun 19 01:53
DaemonFCover the course of the next 20 years, the additional taxes will steal another years wages from youJun 19 01:53
DaemonFCjust ebar with us over something that still isn't being solvedJun 19 01:53
DaemonFC**bearJun 19 01:54
DaemonFCit's just an excuse for another taxJun 19 01:54
DaemonFCalways somethingJun 19 01:54
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/author/ryan-paul/Jun 19 02:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/16/un-review-carbon-offset-abusesJun 19 02:02
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schestowitzgnJun 19 02:03
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AntiPudd1ngNYC_2010_Faber.wmv  very goodJun 19 02:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, everyone seems finally settled, as I said earlier its been a challenging day. "Smoke me a kipper, i'll be back for breakfast"Jun 19 02:24
cubezzzMotorola looks like they are in troubleJun 19 02:36
cubezzzoperating income: $-158 million (2009)Jun 19 02:36
cubezzzIn July 2008, a large number of executives left Motorola to work on Apple Inc.'s iPhoneJun 19 02:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @LeslieD: I'll be there, will you?! RT @omarg: the second Linux Against Poverty Install Fest is here. http://bit.ly/drplLdJun 19 02:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] O_o - @NajibRazak wants suggestions to name his cat http://bit.ly/9yVwAeJun 19 03:05
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cubezzzbah, I need to retrofit gcc onto old linuxJun 19 03:53
cubezzzmaking a special section just for linux 2.2Jun 19 04:01
oiaohmcubezzz: at some point old Linux has to die.Jun 19 04:01
cubezzzno, not until my 486 diesJun 19 04:02
cubezzzbesides, I can use it with freedosJun 19 04:02
cubezzzI just felt like putting gcc on it Jun 19 04:02
cubezzzdead is PDP-11Jun 19 04:03
cubezzzdon't worry, I won't go back that far :)Jun 19 04:04
cubezzzI only have 100 meg partition so I can't add too muchJun 19 04:07
cubezzzman pages don't seem to work rightJun 19 04:23
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cubezzzupgraded to dmidecode 2.10 on fc1 (from 2.2)Jun 19 04:53
cubezzzlooks strange doesn't it?Jun 19 04:53
cubezzzlooks more like I downgradedJun 19 04:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Wishing I cd attend the Geeknic tomorrow! http://gidgetkitchen.org/wiki/Geeknic2 I've gotta work.Jun 19 05:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Good food good ppl RT @pleia2: So excited about the Geeknic tomorrow! http://gidgetkitchen.org/wiki/Geeknic2Jun 19 05:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Introducing the Google Command Line Tool: http://tinyurl.com/38xtlsrJun 19 06:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] OMG, I see, David "Lefty" Schlesinger is on a rampage again.Jun 19 07:00
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @ml2mst: OMG, I see, David "Lefty" Schlesinger is on a rampage again.Jun 19 07:04
ender2070http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/audio2009/Alan_Watt_on_Truth_Quest_with_Melodee__KHEN_106_9_FM_Salida_Colorado_USA_Apr072009_HOUR1.mp3Jun 19 07:21
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AntiPudd1ngwhat about ender2070 Jun 19 07:24
ender2070?Jun 19 07:32
AntiPudd1ngsubject of mp3 is what ender2070 ?Jun 19 07:37
ender2070ohhJun 19 07:38
ender2070UN, world control, elite authors who blurted stuff outJun 19 07:38
AntiPudd1ngtyJun 19 07:44
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AntiPudd1nghttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/4perfectlyroundcircles.jpg  damn hardcore optical illusion!Jun 19 08:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2446Jun 19 08:37
TechrightsTitle: Linux Grows Up | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 45.76 KBJun 19 08:37
schestowitzAntiPudd1ng: http://pics.nase-bohren.de/vuvuzela_coke.jpgJun 19 08:38
cubezzzold linux has lots of interesting stuff:Jun 19 08:38
schestowitz:-)Jun 19 08:38
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cubezzzShow_Memory     Shift-ScrollockJun 19 08:38
nawihttp://search.slashdot.org/story/10/06/19/0122214/Italian-MEP-Wants-To-Eliminate-Anonymity-On-the-InternetJun 19 08:39
TechrightsTitle: Slashdot Search Story | Italian MEP Wants To Eliminate Anonymity On the Internet .::. Size~: 116.94 KBJun 19 08:39
nawievery time I wake up there's a new fucking batshit crazy news articleJun 19 08:39
nawiso depressingJun 19 08:39
schestowitzWHat now?Jun 19 08:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Odd postal spam to my company address.Printed hand-written envelope containing fake article 'torn' out of a paper with a post-it attached.Jun 19 08:44
nawischestowitz, well that slashdot storyJun 19 08:45
nawibut it's a general thingJun 19 08:45
nawirarely a day goes by without atleast one bad newsJun 19 08:46
nawiarticleJun 19 08:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://www.octane.uk.net/2010/04/asa-investigate-chris-cardell-newspaper-cutting-scam/ unsurprising, this was what I got, scam.Jun 19 08:47
TechrightsTitle: ASA investigate Chris Cardell newspaper cutting scam | Web Design, Internet Marketing and Business Advice » Octane .::. Size~: 54.95 KBJun 19 08:47
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schestowitznawi: what's not bad news is just "normal"Jun 19 08:57
schestowitzwhat makes news are changes, often for the worse (scandals)Jun 19 08:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New talk from Stephan Kinsella: The Case Against Intellectual Property Rights http://techrights.org/2010/06/19/against-ipr/Jun 19 08:58
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schestowitzRMS' explanation of this is decent (about negativity)Jun 19 08:59
nawiyou mean his critique of the pirate party?Jun 19 08:59
cubezzzhmmm?Jun 19 09:00
AntiPudd1ngty schestowitz Jun 19 09:02
schestowitzPirate parties around the world sometimes want to just kill copyrightJun 19 09:02
schestowitzGPL needs copyrightJun 19 09:02
nawino, I haven't heard about thatJun 19 09:03
nawithough I personally doJun 19 09:03
nawiI'm not a copyleft advocate, only free softwareJun 19 09:03
schestowitzfree as in freedom?Jun 19 09:03
nawiour party actually responded to Stallman, but only in finnish..Jun 19 09:03
nawischestowitz, yesJun 19 09:03
schestowitzCause one requires the otherJun 19 09:03
nawinoJun 19 09:03
nawithere can be free software without copyleftJun 19 09:03
nawieven stallman acknowledges thisJun 19 09:04
schestowitzWhat "Free"?Jun 19 09:04
nawi4 freedomsJun 19 09:04
schestowitzBSD I guessJun 19 09:04
schestowitzThat's "Free" tooJun 19 09:04
schestowitzDepends on definitionJun 19 09:04
schestowitzThen we're down to philisophyJun 19 09:04
nawias per the definition of the free software foundation, and RMSJun 19 09:04
schestowitz*philosophyJun 19 09:04
nawiI tend to release my code under public domain-like licenseJun 19 09:05
schestowitzhttp://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2010/jun/17/nominations-board-closed/Jun 19 09:05
nawi'There are many variants of simple non-copyleft free software licenses, such as the Expat license, FreeBSD license, X10 license, the X11 license, and the two BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) licenses.' - FSFJun 19 09:05
TechrightsTitle: Nominations for The Board of Governors are now closed - Pirate Party UK .::. Size~: 11.37 KBJun 19 09:05
schestowitzThe party in the UK is weak, IMHOJun 19 09:05
schestowitzThey also have problematic lawsJun 19 09:05
schestowitzThe Swedish one seems betterJun 19 09:05
nawischestowitz, that seems pretty unofficialJun 19 09:06
nawiwhen they're not even using their full names in that list..Jun 19 09:06
nawihttp://www.piraattipuolue.fi/puolue/hallitus here's our "board of governors" pageJun 19 09:07
schestowitz[09:06] <nawi> when they're not even using their full names in that list..Jun 19 09:09
schestowitzA good start would be not to call it "pirate"Jun 19 09:09
schestowitzPirate still means criminalJun 19 09:09
nawino, meanings changeJun 19 09:09
nawiPirate is too good brand to loseJun 19 09:09
schestowitzI am still shy to link to people who willingly associate themselves with the slur from MAFIAA (MPAA|RIAA)Jun 19 09:09
nawischestowitz, we take their slur and make it sound positiveJun 19 09:10
nawi"pirate" is not used in a bad sense in my country anymore, or so it seemsJun 19 09:10
nawiand I'm sure the same is true for swedenJun 19 09:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] When giving support to people in our loco channel, it's nice to see "that's made my day, thank you so much". \o/Jun 19 09:10
nawikinda like Christian used to be a slur word, but they turned it into something positiveJun 19 09:10
nawihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ixl68QAhGwJun 19 09:11
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- "ICH BIN PIRAT!" V1.1 Wahlwerbespot Piratenpartei Bundestagswahl .::. Size~: 100.29 KBJun 19 09:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Munich sort of censors Linux blogs? http://ur1.ca/09gfw Why not embrace the Web? Transparency is good after allJun 19 09:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] When Recording Everything We See Is Standard, What Happens To Copyright? - http://bit.ly/91wWvp another reason #copyright is obsoleteJun 19 09:18
TechrightsTitle: When Recording Everything We See Is Standard, What Happens To Copyright? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.01 KBJun 19 09:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Illegal bushmeat 'rife in Europe' - http://bit.ly/aE9zFz a health risk and a disgrace; happening at London airports, too #bushmeatJun 19 09:44
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/36754499#notice-36968173 "I hope that won't become a censorship, but the internal discussion is in front of me for the next weeks."Jun 19 09:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Source: A Question of Evolution - http://bit.ly/dAtjEb anything else is just primitive #sharingJun 19 10:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Opening scene of new season of The IT Crowd. Oh look, Ubuntu sticker on Moss's screen :) @glinner http://bit.ly/1416r4 http://bit.ly/d6n1j5Jun 19 11:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] At Mums, working on #mumbuntu. First question, she's received email from 'friends' telling her about 'viruses'. Answer: Ignore _all_ of themJun 19 11:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government of #Tunisia Helps to Prepare the Population for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/09k88 http://ur1.ca/09k8bJun 19 11:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going to record a few screencasts hopefully, directly on #mumbuntu Acer revo. Brought my plantronics headset with me. Hope revo has the gutsJun 19 11:41
TechrightsTitle:   Tunisian govt. launches FOSS training programme : Tectonic - The Source for Open Source News .::. Size~: 33.92 KBJun 19 11:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] World's Laregst OEMs Prepare to Deliver #GNU #Linux Preinstalled http://ur1.ca/09ka7 http://ur1.ca/09kadJun 19 11:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux in Flemish Comic Series http://blog.bdesmet.be/2010/06/first-linux-to-appear-in-flemish-comic-series/Jun 19 11:44
TechrightsTitle: Bert blogt » First Linux to appear in Flemish comic series ? .::. Size~: 15.94 KBJun 19 11:44
nawiChrome OS is very scaryJun 19 11:45
nawiGoogle is becoming the next Microsoft. they own everything, they spy on everything, they'll have a monopoly on everythingJun 19 11:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some Market Share Figures for Desktop #GNU #Linux , Hovering Around 3% Even 8 Years Ago http://ur1.ca/09ken http://ur1.ca/09keqJun 19 11:46
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oiaohmnawi: Microsoft threated to kill Google.Jun 19 11:47
oiaohmSo Google will kill them.Jun 19 11:47
oiaohmProblem is Google will become huge in the process.Jun 19 11:47
nawiI actually think Google is more dangerous than Microsoft, because Google owns all the private information on the netJun 19 11:47
nawihttp://www.scroogle.org/doctorow.htmlJun 19 11:48
oiaohmMS wanted to own that too.Jun 19 11:48
oiaohmGoogle beat them to it that is all.Jun 19 11:48
nawiI'm not saying MS is any goodJun 19 11:48
oiaohmGoogle is a far more open company than MS.Jun 19 11:48
oiaohmWe can see more of what google is doing.Jun 19 11:48
oiaohmIf any company has to take that location for a while I am happy its google.Jun 19 11:49
nawilike spying on WLAN connectionsJun 19 11:49
MinceRat least google isn't going to the same lengths to destroy their competition.Jun 19 11:49
oiaohmWay were people leaving their networks not encrypted.Jun 19 11:49
nawiyes, Google is better than MS, that doesn't make their monopoly a good ideaJun 19 11:49
oiaohmwhyJun 19 11:49
nawioiaohm, because people are not IT expertsJun 19 11:49
oiaohmProblem here.Jun 19 11:50
nawiit's too difficultJun 19 11:50
oiaohmAgain problem.Jun 19 11:50
nawinormal people shouldn't have to be IT expertsJun 19 11:50
MinceR124350 < nawi> yes, Google is better than MS, that doesn't make their monopoly a good ideaJun 19 11:50
MinceRagreedJun 19 11:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Maybe today is a good day to upgrade #mumbuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS. Seems that way. Will worry about theme later (probably stick w human)Jun 19 11:50
MinceRnormal people should still have some proficiency with the tools they intend to useJun 19 11:50
oiaohmYes they should not have to be it experts but its a sign that the devices are not up to the  job.Jun 19 11:50
MinceRespecially if mistakes can lead to damage to them or to othersJun 19 11:50
oiaohmLets say someone designed a standard way to share wireless encrypt keys.Jun 19 11:51
MinceRi'm not sure if the problem is with the _devices_Jun 19 11:51
oiaohmIe insert usb key into router key placed on router auto generated.Jun 19 11:51
oiaohmuser inserts that into laptop/what ever computer away they go.Jun 19 11:51
oiaohmAt no time would a device like that have to leave network not encrypted.Jun 19 11:51
oiaohmBasically secure and userfriendly are not being done.Jun 19 11:52
oiaohmGoogle wifi sniffing is showing a far larger problem.Jun 19 11:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Keep forgetting how bad the service is. (@ Delicious) http://4sq.com/bZze6qJun 19 11:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Clicked 'Upgrade' to 10.04 on mums machine at 11:47AM, start the clock! :DJun 19 11:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Fetching 1449 packages at 2.429KB/s - glad I got 20Mb/s broadband for my mum! #mumbuntuJun 19 11:59
oiaohmMinceR: some of it is device design.Jun 19 12:03
oiaohmDefault state on a lot of devices is wifi on and unencrypted.Jun 19 12:03
oiaohmBad default state.Jun 19 12:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Downloading packages complete, it reckons 3 hours to install updates at 12:00PM. #mumbuntuJun 19 12:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Sam (3) Just walked in holding an electronic Sudoku game and uttered 'Can you keep the noise down, I'm trying to concentrate on this game!'Jun 19 12:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New PDF, CLI, and VP8 Tools from Google http://ur1.ca/09l6s http://ur1.ca/09l6u http://ur1.ca/09l6x http://ur1.ca/09l6zJun 19 12:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Getting recipe ideas from mum. She just cut her thumb chopping onion. I took over and promptly cut my thumb too!Jun 19 12:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel Overviews, A Look at #Cryptmount http://ur1.ca/09l9n http://ur1.ca/09l9r http://ur1.ca/09l9xJun 19 12:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Graphics Stack Progress in #Linux http://ur1.ca/09lb3 http://ur1.ca/09lb5 http://ur1.ca/09lb8 http://ur1.ca/09lbaJun 19 12:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Truly Free #KDE (GPU Level Too) Made More Responsive and Snappy http://ur1.ca/088lsJun 19 12:19
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MinceRoiaohm: which is because lusers can't be bothered to set it up, which they'd need to do to know the key.Jun 19 12:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Unpleasant error message during karmic -> lucid upgrade :( I know why, but it's not nice. http://bit.ly/dvuioS #mumbuntuJun 19 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | HTC Smart On O2 Pt 3 | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/3ykqcuoJun 19 12:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Reaches Year's Highs, Listed in Businessweek 50 http://ur1.ca/09m3o http://ur1.ca/09m3v http://ur1.ca/08z8oJun 19 12:44
TechrightsTitle: New Highs for Shares of Red Hat, Deckers, and Alaska Air (DECK, ALK, RHT) | WallStNation.com .::. Size~: 36.37 KBJun 19 12:44
TechrightsTitle: The Bloomberg Businessweek 50: No. 22 Red Hat  - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 35.12 KBJun 19 12:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian 6.0 Squeeze Probably Out This Year, A Look at Debian Derivative BOSS http://ur1.ca/09m9t http://ur1.ca/09m9vJun 19 12:49
TechrightsTitle: Debian 6.0 Squeeze expected to be released by the end of the year& if all goes well | MDLog:/sysadmin .::. Size~: 30.3 KBJun 19 12:49
TechrightsTitle: PCLinuxOS - the Big Daddy of all Desktop Linux Distributions: BOSS is Nobody's Boss! .::. Size~: 73.37 KBJun 19 12:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Coverage of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 and 10.10 http://ur1.ca/09mca http://ur1.ca/09mce http://ur1.ca/09mciJun 19 12:54
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TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 Upgrade: Best Practices Checklist | ITworld .::. Size~: 91.65 KBJun 19 12:54
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat To be Radical, Promises Shuttleworth | NetBook Expert .::. Size~: 53.4 KBJun 19 12:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Coming Changes in #Ubuntu and UNE 10.10 http://ur1.ca/09mi8 http://ur1.ca/088n9Jun 19 12:58
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TechrightsTitle: The Unity Panel Won't Allow Any Kind Of Customizations [UNE 10.10] ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 64.04 KBJun 19 12:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Three Examples of New Devices That Run #Linux http://ur1.ca/09mly http://ur1.ca/09mm0 http://ur1.ca/09mm3Jun 19 13:02
TechrightsTitle:                     Bluecherry releases a linux mpeg-4 compression card - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 55.81 KBJun 19 13:02
TechrightsTitle: Beagle Board Modules Offer Open Source Options | Product Design and Development .::. Size~: 101.66 KBJun 19 13:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the #Linux -based #Droid 2, Other #Android Gadgets http://ur1.ca/09n2l http://ur1.ca/09n2o http://ur1.ca/09n2tJun 19 13:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Wow RT @craignewmark: RT @brontyman: @craignewmark "Blessed is the person has earned the love of an old dog."- Syndney Jeanne SewardJun 19 13:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux is Outpacing Apple's hypePhone http://ur1.ca/09n5t http://ur1.ca/09n5v http://ur1.ca/09n5yJun 19 13:21
TechrightsTitle: Droid X vs iPhone 4: The Last Phone Ringing | Katonda .::. Size~: 23.87 KBJun 19 13:21
TechrightsTitle: Android leads growing Linux-based phone market - Page 1 - Enterprise Business Applications .::. Size~: 82.28 KBJun 19 13:21
TechrightsTitle:    Showing Progress with Android |   Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 46.37 KBJun 19 13:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Event Covers Development Venues for Free Software, Karmasphere Comes to #Eclipse http://ur1.ca/09nee http://ur1.ca/09negJun 19 13:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] That sounds awesome. RT @kamal: Special Double Cheese Mutton Burger.Jun 19 13:30
TechrightsTitle: About software forges | carlodaffara.conecta.it .::. Size~: 34.71 KBJun 19 13:30
TechrightsTitle: Karmasphere Now Available For Eclipse | Muktware .::. Size~: 21.07 KBJun 19 13:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Flickr, stock photography and Creative Commons - http://bit.ly/bEAUYa good explanation of the background to Flickr-Getty deal #ccJun 19 13:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] None flying? RT @davinarul: And at half-tum it's #NED 0 #JPN 0. Scrappy game with Dutchmen trying to show they know karate #worldcupJun 19 13:32
TechrightsTitle: Flickr, stock photography and Creative Commons | TechnoLlama .::. Size~: 103.3 KBJun 19 13:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upgrade of #mumbuntu machine nearly done, about an 1.25 hours ahead of it's own initial ETA.Jun 19 13:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Britain’s BPI goes after Google with DMCA - http://bit.ly/aAYufF could be fun #google #dmca #bpiJun 19 13:45
TechrightsTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Britains BPI goes after Google .::. Size~: 48.52 KBJun 19 13:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] satisfied #wcliveJun 19 13:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] oily operators behind the religious climate change disinformation front group, Cornwall Alliance - http://bit.ly/cJKwcv don't miss the videoJun 19 13:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Firefox 4 Beta http://apcmag.com//new-firefox-4-minefield-beta-sports-webm-video-and-tweaked-ui.htmJun 19 13:51
TechrightsTitle: The oily operators behind the religious climate change disinformation front group, Cornwall Alliance «  Climate Progress .::. Size~: 51.44 KBJun 19 13:51
TechrightsTitle: New Firefox 4 ‘Minefield’ beta sports WebM video and tweaked UI .::. Size~: 144.41 KBJun 19 13:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox Gets HTTPS Everywhere, Other Developments http://ur1.ca/09o0t http://ur1.ca/09o0z http://ur1.ca/09o14Jun 19 13:53
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TechrightsTitle:   Brazil streaks ahead in Firefox World Cup : Tectonic - The Source for Open Source News .::. Size~: 33.3 KBJun 19 13:53
TechrightsTitle:     Mozilla tracking a week in the life of a Firefox browser - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 110.19 KBJun 19 13:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre Databases a Real Threat to #Oracle , New OOo Build http://ur1.ca/09o21 http://ur1.ca/09o24Jun 19 13:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] STOP THE CLOCK! #mumbuntu upgrade complete. I make that 1 hour 50 mins. Now to head to the park with Sam before it rains!Jun 19 13:55
TechrightsTitle:   Oracle Is In Deep Doo-Doo at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 26.73 KBJun 19 13:55
TechrightsTitle: New: OOo-DEV 3.x Developer Snapshot (build DEV300m83) available - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 55.34 KBJun 19 13:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #WordPress Released, Clickability FUDs Free #CMS Software http://ur1.ca/09o3y http://ur1.ca/088e1 http://ur1.ca/09o43Jun 19 13:56
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TechrightsTitle: WordPress : Blog »   WordPress 3.0 Thelonious .::. Size~: 47.71 KBJun 19 13:56
TechrightsTitle: Clickability FUD on Open Source versus SaaS | Dries Buytaert .::. Size~: 22.97 KBJun 19 13:56
oiaohmLOL Oracle Deep Doo-Doo is FUD schestowitz  Oracle changed there business to a custom solution provide.  There database makes up less than 5 percent of oracles income.Jun 19 13:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] velosynth - http://bit.ly/aXxV6y "an open-source bicycle interaction synthesizer": how cool is that? (via @harkopen)Jun 19 13:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Funding for Open Source, Finance Ideas http://ur1.ca/09o9z http://ur1.ca/09oa0 http://ur1.ca/09oa1Jun 19 14:03
TechrightsTitle: Appcelerator raises $2.1M to build apps on multiple devices | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 49.98 KBJun 19 14:03
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TechrightsTitle: Open Source VAT software, would you risk it? - Open Source Insider .::. Size~: 28.7 KBJun 19 14:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Project Releases of #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/09oa6 http://ur1.ca/09oa7 http://ur1.ca/09oa8Jun 19 14:05
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TechrightsTitle: Bluecherry releases its version 2 driver (GPL) | Bluecherry - Linux based surveillance software .::. Size~: 31.62 KBJun 19 14:05
TechrightsTitle: Twilio Releases OpenVBX - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 29.97 KBJun 19 14:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Internet Freedom under pressure in Denmark - http://bit.ly/8ZXzht not good #denmark #copyrightJun 19 14:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Journal on Open Source Software Law http://www.ifosslr.org/ifosslr/announcement/view/6Jun 19 14:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FOSSology Monetises Licensing Fear With Free Software, Not Proprietary Like Black Duck http://ur1.ca/09ojeJun 19 14:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of #OpenHardware Promotion in Cars, Prosthetics http://ur1.ca/09oq6 http://ur1.ca/09oq9Jun 19 14:24
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nawiRiversimple website doesn't workJun 19 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Google Listen still completely broken. Won't start because it needs a Google account. Duh! Android phone, of course I already have one.Jun 19 14:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @crystaltips: gandi.net 's new strapline is "no bullshit" TM. no bullshit TRADEMARKED. http://www.gandi.net/no-bullshitJun 19 14:33
TechrightsTitle: Nom de domaine et hébergement cloud - Gandi.net .::. Size~: 31.66 KBJun 19 14:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Does science really still have a problem with libel? - http://bit.ly/benYsU "libel chill still remains for scientists and science writers"Jun 19 14:50
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nawidoes Android phone usage require a "google account"?Jun 19 14:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Marker cleaned and lubed for tomorrows action. #mapaacJun 19 14:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upon upgrading to 10.04, full screen flash (iplayer) still sucks massive donkey balls. Business as usual then. #flashsucksJun 19 14:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] upgradinhg to 10.04 my mums desktop background has disappeared. No idea where it is or how to get it back :(Jun 19 14:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Elementary #GNU #Linux in Review http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7811/1.htmlJun 19 15:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Seen as Easy to Use, Stigma Remains http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/45929 http://www.daniweb.com/news/story290770.htmlJun 19 15:04
TechrightsTitle:    Improving The Linux Desktop? Why, Its Elementary |   Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 48.71 KBJun 19 15:04
TechrightsTitle: All hail the easy to use! | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 32.75 KBJun 19 15:04
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schestowitznawi: account?Jun 19 15:05
schestowitzThey have your MAC addressJun 19 15:05
nawi [popey] Google Listen still completely broken. Won't start because it needs a Google account. Duh! Android phone, of course I already have one.Jun 19 15:05
schestowitzWho needs account /melaughsJun 19 15:05
nawithis seems to imply that using Android requires a google accountJun 19 15:06
schestowitzGoogle ac*ntJun 19 15:06
schestowitzOh, look, a new trollJun 19 15:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/36771260#notice-36984250Jun 19 15:07
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schestowitz"Chrome OS is another #Ubuntu-clone. Google should work upstream and re-consider using #Ubuntu. WebOS must be our memtest!"Jun 19 15:08
schestowitz"Mark Shuttlecock (@markshuttlecock) just sent a notice to your attention (an '@-reply') on Identi.ca."Jun 19 15:08
schestowitzAlso in:Jun 19 15:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/36780249#notice-36993413Jun 19 15:08
schestowitzRT @schestowitz New Coverage of !ubuntulinux 10.10 <snip/> http://ur1.ca/09mce http://ur1.ca/09mci < Improved Apple Mac supportJun 19 15:08
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TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 Upgrade: Best Practices Checklist | ITworld .::. Size~: 91.65 KBJun 19 15:08
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat To be Radical, Promises Shuttleworth | NetBook Expert .::. Size~: 53.4 KBJun 19 15:08
schestowitzThis troll uses Mark's picJun 19 15:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wondering why usb hard disk doesnt auto mount on Ubuntu when it's defined in /etc/fstabJun 19 15:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Used 'Human' theme on 10.04 so I don't have to have the 'button conversation' with mum on her machineJun 19 15:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Whee, installed usbmount now the USB hard disk I wanted to use for backups on mums machine automounts. Now to move the backups to that diskJun 19 15:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Old PCs Need #GNU #Linux, New Examples Presented http://ur1.ca/09q9v http://ur1.ca/09q9zJun 19 15:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Clusters Deployed, More Migrations to Linux #Mainframes http://ur1.ca/09q9w http://ur1.ca/09q9yJun 19 15:18
TechrightsTitle: Goodbye, Microsoft®: "Smart Reuse With Open Source" .::. Size~: 19.61 KBJun 19 15:18
TechrightsTitle: Where in the world? | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 36.18 KBJun 19 15:18
TechrightsTitle:  Appro Deploys a World Class Linux Cluster Testbed Solution to LLNL in Support... -- MILPITAS, Calif., June 16 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 51.64 KBJun 19 15:18
TechrightsTitle: Security in Migrating to Linux on IBM System z | CIO - Blogs and Discussion .::. Size~: 80.07 KBJun 19 15:18
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nawihttp://www.vbs.tv/watch/uneven-terrain/london-pirate-frequenciesJun 19 15:49
TechrightsTitle: London Pirate Frequencies - Uneven Terrain | VBS.TV .::. Size~: 48.61 KBJun 19 15:49
nawiargh, can't watch itJun 19 15:49
nawiall VBS videos are laggy for meJun 19 15:49
nawion both opera and firefoxJun 19 15:49
nawiit shouldn't be a bandwidth issue but playback oneJun 19 15:49
nawiyoutube vids (even HD) play fineJun 19 15:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A guide to 3D display technology: its principles, methods, and dangers - http://bit.ly/dm5hig v. useful backgrounder for tech-du-jour #3dJun 19 15:56
TechrightsTitle:   A guide to 3D display technology: its principles, methods, and dangers  .::. Size~: 58.94 KBJun 19 15:56
Ziomatrixnawi: Pirates use WindowsJun 19 15:59
nawiwhat?Jun 19 15:59
Ziomatrixnawi: I just saw a PC using Windows XP in the video you postedJun 19 16:01
nawikJun 19 16:01
Ziomatrixnawi: interesting stuff thoughJun 19 16:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Cheers to Natwest - card# turned up stolen, they called to verify no dodgy transactions *then* blocked it. I am a most pleased customer.Jun 19 16:01
Ziomatrixnawi: I like how they used Cold War era infrared transmitters like how the CIA used in Germany to transmit info across the Berlin Wall.Jun 19 16:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The Pioneer One swarm still seems very much in demand, im seeing over 3000 peers for the xvid ver.Jun 19 16:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For some great chat....join me over in #peppermint on irc.spotchat.orgJun 19 16:20
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Went to AU-KBC research center - MIT and talked about Fedora Tamil Remix;Met @amachu .My bad presentation is here http://bit.ly/bskIcs [odp]Jun 19 16:29
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ender2070nawi - the main idea of copyleft is that some company cant use your code without contributing backJun 19 16:47
ender2070thats why I use GPLJun 19 16:47
ender2070I like the CDDL tooJun 19 16:47
nawiI know what copyleft is around very wellJun 19 16:47
nawiI don't believe in copyright, so supporting GPL doesn't make senseJun 19 16:47
nawiaround = aboutJun 19 16:47
ender2070I do believe in copyright, but a more limited versionJun 19 16:48
ender2070i dont want to make something and have someone else make billions off meJun 19 16:48
nawicopyleft allows thatJun 19 16:48
ender2070heres an exampleJun 19 16:49
ender2070wheres the source code for the OSX GUIJun 19 16:49
ender2070they dont mind borrowing code to make their products better but its one wayJun 19 16:50
ender2070theres a few companies that do that, some of them are evilJun 19 16:51
ender2070like DigsbyJun 19 16:51
ender2070uses open source libraries to make closed source spyware and then they sell your cpu cycles off for moneyJun 19 16:51
nawi<ender2070> i dont want to make something and have someone else make billions off meJun 19 16:52
nawido you agree that copyleft allows this?Jun 19 16:52
ender2070yes it doesJun 19 16:53
ender2070but i wouldnt be brickwalledJun 19 16:53
ender2070the GPL requires that if they redistribute the code I'd get a copy of the source codeJun 19 16:55
ender2070im not left in the dark to what they changedJun 19 16:55
ender2070nor are they able to close it up and add spyware without people knowingJun 19 16:55
ender2070im more anti-corporation than anythingJun 19 16:56
ender2070but I also respect your choice to use BSD, or w/e license you wantJun 19 16:56
ender2070its your codeJun 19 16:57
ender2070my code is gonna be GPL3 or CDDLJun 19 16:57
ender2070I like CDDL's fuck you clause, sue me and u cant use the softwareJun 19 16:57
nawidon't worry, i'm "anti-corporation" tooJun 19 16:57
ender2070:)Jun 19 16:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Heres a decent online app for converting many vid file formats: http://www.cellsea.comJun 19 17:07
TechrightsTitle: Free ringtone,free wallpaper,free games,free video for the mobile phones .::. Size~: 57.95 KBJun 19 17:07
ender2070what does quassel mean by distributedJun 19 17:21
ender2070mtJun 19 17:22
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schestowitzTurns out Steven is ESR's middle and and Shuttleworth's is RichardJun 19 17:41
schestowitz*middle nameJun 19 17:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to Select/Create a Good #GNU #Linux Distribution, a Look at #Kiddix OS http://ur1.ca/09unn http://ur1.ca/09unxJun 19 17:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gaming Machine Runs Linux, More Games for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/09unk http://ur1.ca/09unq http://ur1.ca/09uo0Jun 19 17:42
TechrightsTitle: Yet another open source blog ;)  » Blog Archive   » The fragile balance between fast and reliable .::. Size~: 64.09 KBJun 19 17:42
TechrightsTitle:   Pay what you want for Kiddix OS  .::. Size~: 60.08 KBJun 19 17:42
TechrightsTitle: Gaming box lets Linux play the slots - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 52.89 KBJun 19 17:42
TechrightsTitle: Ksplice  » ntris: an idea taken a step too far  - System administration and software blog  .::. Size~: 31.13 KBJun 19 17:42
TechrightsTitle:       Heroes of Newerth - Charge!     .::. Size~: 16.25 KBJun 19 17:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Fully fund NPR & PBS. Now more than ever, we need a vibrant public media. http://bit.ly/a9nKWKJun 19 17:44
TechrightsTitle: Fully fund NPR and PBS .::. Size~: 16.03 KBJun 19 17:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Hosts Innovation Awards, New Analysis http://ur1.ca/09uu1 http://ur1.ca/09uu3 http://ur1.ca/09uu5Jun 19 17:45
TechrightsTitle: Red Hat Announces Finalists in Fourth Annual Innovation Awards - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 77.24 KBJun 19 17:45
TechrightsTitle: Red Hat Virtualization: Cheaper Than VMware, Microsoft? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 50.23 KBJun 19 17:45
TechrightsTitle: Red Hat's revenue glass ceiling is its own making | Open Source - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 90.33 KBJun 19 17:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #Zorin 3 ( #GNU #Linux ) http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/06/zorin-3-distro-review.htmlJun 19 17:46
TechrightsTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Zorin 3 - Distro Review .::. Size~: 62.09 KBJun 19 17:46
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*ender2070 is listening to Bagpipes From Baghdad by Eminem on Relapse (Deluxe Edition) [Amarok2]Jun 19 17:54
ender2070awesomeJun 19 17:54
ender20702.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64Jun 19 17:54
schestowitzWhat's this ping from ACCESS+stalkers?Jun 19 17:55
schestowitzIt's better to ignore that gang of anti-FSF chumbsJun 19 17:55
ender2070Sometimes you have to defend yourselfJun 19 17:55
schestowitzSomtimesJun 19 17:56
*MinceR is listening to: Memento Mori ][ OST - David Shaw - InterphazeJun 19 17:56
schestowitz*sometimes.Jun 19 17:56
ender2070I think it went better than previous flamesJun 19 17:56
*schestowitz listens to JamiroquaiJun 19 17:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Reviews of #Fedora #GNU #Linux Version 13 http://ur1.ca/09v4x http://ur1.ca/09v4zJun 19 17:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Reviews of #Fedora #GNU #Linux Version 13 http://ur1.ca/09v4x http://ur1.ca/09v4zJun 19 17:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ubuntu Derivatives #Jolicloud and #Linux Mint 9 http://ur1.ca/09v4y http://ur1.ca/09v50Jun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle:       Fedora 13 Goddard. Bah. Meh. Hmm? Ok.     .::. Size~: 26.8 KBJun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Exploring Fedora - The LXDE and Xfce spins are on my  radar - CLICK .::. Size~: 35.92 KBJun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle:       Fedora 13 Goddard. Bah. Meh. Hmm? Ok.     .::. Size~: 26.8 KBJun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Exploring Fedora - The LXDE and Xfce spins are on my  radar - CLICK .::. Size~: 35.92 KBJun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Jolicloud: Ubuntu Linux Touch Screens Meet the Cloud | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 52.63 KBJun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Linux Mint 9 RC Backs Up Your Data and Application Choices .::. Size~: 76.13 KBJun 19 17:57
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/36780249#notice-36993413Jun 19 17:57
TechrightsTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 15.48 KBJun 19 17:57
schestowitz"Mark Shuttlecock"Jun 19 17:57
MinceR:)Jun 19 17:58
ender2070lolJun 19 18:02
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] As oil spews in Gulf, BP chief at UK yacht race http://ur1.ca/09vbgJun 19 18:04
TechrightsTitle: As oil spews in Gulf, BP chief at UK yacht race - NewsTimes .::. Size~: 74.07 KBJun 19 18:04
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzjaeUx66gJun 19 18:09
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Canibus - Air Strike (Pop Killer) ft. D-12 & DZK .::. Size~: 114.96 KBJun 19 18:09
ender2070eminem dissJun 19 18:09
schestowitzhttp://www.liliputing.com/2010/06/joojoo-tablet-hacked-to-run-os-x.htmlJun 19 18:09
TechrightsTitle:   JooJoo tablet hacked to run OS X .::. Size~: 20.88 KBJun 19 18:09
schestowitz "Mark Shuttlecock" replied to 3 dents of mine today... seems like a polite trollJun 19 18:10
schestowitzhttp://www.cultofmac.com/joojoo-tablet-is-no-ipad-but-at-least-it-can-now-run-os-x/47375Jun 19 18:12
TechrightsTitle:   JooJoo Tablet Is No iPad, But At Least It Can Now Run OS X | Cult of Mac .::. Size~: 26.73 KBJun 19 18:12
schestowitzhttp://www.electronista.com/articles/10/06/18/joojoo.tablet.hacked.to.run.on.snow.leopard/Jun 19 18:12
TechrightsTitle: JooJoo tablet gets Mac OS X hack | Electronista .::. Size~: 82.29 KBJun 19 18:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've just listened to 3 episodes of LinuxCrazy, 2 of TuxRadar, and 1 SFL[show]. TuxRadar was best.Jun 19 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.softsailor.com/downloads/30733-download-linux-kernel-2-6-34-free.htmlJun 19 18:19
TechrightsTitle: Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free  SoftSailor .::. Size~: 29.12 KBJun 19 18:19
schestowitzWhy?Jun 19 18:19
schestowitz"SoftSailor only offers a full version of Linux Kernel 2.6.34 if it's freeware. Otherwise you will have to download the demo / trial or buy the full version."Jun 19 18:21
schestowitzSee commentsJun 19 18:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free" http://ur1.ca/09w04 "Price:Free" "License:Freeware" read last sentence. Amazing!Jun 19 18:21
ender2070lolJun 19 18:21
TechrightsTitle: Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free  SoftSailor .::. Size~: 29.12 KBJun 19 18:21
Diablo-D3schestowitz: the site is just trying to make money off googleJun 19 18:21
Diablo-D3its all automated collection shitJun 19 18:22
schestowitzYesJun 19 18:22
schestowitzI rekcon it's autogeneratedJun 19 18:22
schestowitzThey do the same for many linux-related productsJun 19 18:22
schestowitzShowing them like items with a trial versionJun 19 18:22
Diablo-D3you shouldnt link to it or talk about itJun 19 18:22
schestowitzThe problem is, Diablo-D3, they are in GOOGLE NEWSJun 19 18:22
schestowitzSince May 2010Jun 19 18:22
Diablo-D3then someone should probably notify google its not a real siteJun 19 18:23
schestowitzDefinitely not newsJun 19 18:23
schestowitzThey sometimes have these creep in for a whileJun 19 18:23
schestowitzThis is just the latest oneJun 19 18:23
amarsh04back in a few, restartingJun 19 18:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @brubaker: History of Violence was a great film. But then, it's Cronenberg, so it has an advantage. Also, a great script.Jun 19 18:27
MinceRhttp://www.photonexter.com/index.php?show=4017Jun 19 18:29
TechrightsTitle: FUNNIEST PHOTOS EVER .::. Size~: 5.69 KBJun 19 18:29
schestowitzMaking Microsoft Safe for CapitalismJun 19 18:33
schestowitzhttp://www.around.com/microsoft.htmlJun 19 18:33
schestowitz> By James GleickJun 19 18:33
schestowitzJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> The following was written 11 years ago, but given the continued monopolyJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> maintenance practises that continue even today, it still holdsJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> considerable truth, as expressed in court documents made availableJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> through the internet and testimonies by governments, consumer protectionJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> organisations, software trade organisations.Jun 19 18:34
schestowitzJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> Microsoft apparently has its own religion as expressed in the ComesJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> versus Microsoft court document, Plaintiff Exhibit 3096, commonly knownJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> as "Effective Evangelism", available atJun 19 18:34
schestowitzJun 19 18:34
schestowitz> http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdfJun 19 18:34
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free" http://ur1.ca/09w04 "Price:Free" "License:Freeware" read last sentence. Amazing! (via @schestowitz)Jun 19 18:34
TechrightsTitle: Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free  SoftSailor .::. Size~: 31.62 KBJun 19 18:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Added a comment to a 4 year old low priority bug. Wondered what 'old' bugs people still have active? http://bit.ly/bhhv4YJun 19 18:39
TechrightsTitle: Bug #40792 in update-manager (Ubuntu): “[Dist-upgrader] Window too big in 800x600” .::. Size~: 38.46 KBJun 19 18:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical Builds Hosted Business Around #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/09wms http://ur1.ca/09wmw http://ur1.ca/09wn0Jun 19 18:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia / #MeeGo ( #GNU / #Linux ) - Reviews and Devices http://ur1.ca/09wmu http://ur1.ca/09wmzJun 19 18:42
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TechrightsTitle: A Review Of MeeGo v1.0: Is It Good Enough For Your Netbook? - Make Tech Easier .::. Size~: 38.13 KBJun 19 18:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Consensus-Oriented Specification System, by Pieter Hintjens, mentions patents and OOXML fraud: http://ur1.ca/09wtpJun 19 18:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: Consensus-Oriented Specification System, by Pieter Hintjens, mentions patents and OOXML fraud: http://ur1.ca/09wtpJun 19 18:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Yes, #Microsoft Basically Bribed the Press” – Newspaper Journalist http://techrights.org/2010/06/19/gifts-as-a-bribe/Jun 19 18:59
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schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/156737 "i was really getting tired of people breaking (screwing up) my favorite distros- this was before people started denouncing ubuntu (actually, i considered ubuntu a rock back then) - that's when i found sugar and linux-libre"Jun 19 19:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @zoobab: Consensus-Oriented Specification System, by Pieter Hintjens, mentions patents and OOXML fraud: http://ur1.ca/09wtpJun 19 19:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Prominent U.S. Government Figure Blames #Microsoft for Security Problems, #Dell Disagrees After Alleged Pressure http://ur1.ca/09y7jJun 19 19:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] He's such a Drama queen. Good riddance RT @ShaolinTiger: Not looking for #FRA massive infighting, it's official Anelka has been sent home.Jun 19 19:28
nawianelka, wutJun 19 19:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "Know1ing" was pretty crap.Jun 19 19:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Scribd’s Decision To Dump Flash Pays Off, User Engagement Triples - http://tcrn.ch/9vGJbv engagement, eh? #scribd #flash #html5Jun 19 19:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A game similar to Command and Conquer http://www.boswars.org/index.shtml A great RTS! #foss #linux #gaming #free #c&c #gplJun 19 19:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Off tonight to Party With The Goths(tm) at Invocation! http://www.invocation-night.net/Jun 19 19:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] China indicates it will allow yuan to strengthen - http://bit.ly/b8ZhEk beginning of the end, or end of the beginning? #china #currenciesJun 19 19:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Markets Mobile Products That Don’t Exist http://techrights.org/2010/06/19/mobile-space-vaporware/Jun 19 20:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] For monopolists like Microsoft, the answer is to prevent the software from being free, this requires software patents http://ur1.ca/09wtpJun 19 20:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus It's summer time, & that means lotso work 4 Partimus volunteers 2 get schools ready 2 use GNU-Linux in the Fall!Jun 19 20:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus The first step is to move Linux computers around in classrooms @ the KIPP school. I am starting that work today.Jun 19 20:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus If u wd like to help schlep GNU-Linux computers @ a public school, pls email einfeldt at gmail dot comJun 19 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AT&T Shows Itself to be an Enemy of #Linux Freedom http://ur1.ca/09zlm http://ur1.ca/09zlrJun 19 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks/Tablets With #GNU #Linux to Come to Uruguay, SmartQ http://ur1.ca/09zln http://ur1.ca/09zlqJun 19 20:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Birgitta Jonsdottir, Member of Parliament, Iceland and an active volunteer for WikiLeaks projects http://ur1.ca/09zqlJun 19 20:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SUSE #MeeGo is About #Mono and #OpenSUSE Makes #Microsoft -taxed #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/09zrfJun 19 20:21
TechrightsTitle: SUSE MeeGo is About Mono and OpenSUSE Makes Microsoft-taxed GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.92 KBJun 19 20:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Unlikely to Get Money From #SCO http://ur1.ca/09ztp SCO’s bankruptcy hearing won’t take place until next monthJun 19 20:27
TechrightsTitle: Novell Unlikely to Get Money From SCO | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.97 KBJun 19 20:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody China indicates it will allow yuan to strengthen - http://bit.ly/b8ZhEk beginning of the end, or end of the beginning?Jun 19 20:30
TechrightsTitle: BBC News - China indicates it will allow yuan to strengthen .::. Size~: 51.29 KBJun 19 20:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Birgitta Jonsdottir, Member of Parliament, Iceland and an active volunteer for WikiLeaks projects http://ur1.ca/09zqlJun 19 20:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open innovation and Capitalism Need Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/09zvq http://ur1.ca/09zvsJun 19 20:43
TechrightsTitle: TransferSummit - Open innovation in software means Open Source - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.45 KBJun 19 20:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Success Stories and Expansion in IP #Telephony That's Based on #Linux and #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/09zvt http://ur1.ca/09zvvJun 19 20:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I am giving a talk next month. The title will be: "Present and future threats to software freedom"Jun 19 20:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] yay!!! Made KDE to display tamil stuff :D ..... Will be including in the remix...Jun 19 20:59
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] I didn't have lunch,dinner yesterday. Settled with stuff gulped in #ccdJun 19 21:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Moodle (Free Software for Education) Supported by Questionmark http://ur1.ca/0a00uJun 19 21:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Azul Systems Turns to Free Software http://ur1.ca/0a00t http://ur1.ca/0a00vJun 19 21:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] cool idea from @stepwho: Twitterwall to collect ideas in #designthinking. MelikesJun 19 21:13
schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/156962 "@schestowitz "Note: We do not offer any illegal ways to download Linux Kernel 2.6.34. On SoftSailor you will not find torrents, keygens, serial keys, rapidshare downloads, or any other illegal method to download Linux Kernel " what is this,microsoft's version of @markshuttlecock?"Jun 19 21:22
TechrightsTitle: حالة menn (openuniverse)  في يوم Saturday, 19-Jun-10 20:00:29 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8.2 KBJun 19 21:22
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/markshuttlecock "I can see the future by rubbing my shiny cock... X's start to appear! Up yours and install my shine recompilation of GNU and Mac theming." -Mark Shuttlecock (troll)Jun 19 21:23
TechrightsTitle: Mark Shuttlecock (markshuttlecock)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 41.91 KBJun 19 21:23
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schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/156976 "i realize they're not actually saying it's an illegal method, but it's still an idiotically misleading phrase, in or out of the context of free software. http://www.softsailor.com/downloads/30733-download-linux-kernel-2-6-34-free.html#comment-107092"Jun 19 21:24
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TechrightsTitle: Download Linux Kernel 2.6.34 Free  SoftSailor .::. Size~: 33.09 KBJun 19 21:24
schestowitzI can imagine some people downloading the darn thing over dialup, spending hours looking for the .EXEJun 19 21:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Business and Business Intelligence Need to Have #FreeSoftware Considered http://ur1.ca/0a03f http://ur1.ca/0a03iJun 19 21:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Collaboration in Healthcare Promotes Freedom of Software http://ur1.ca/0a03e http://ur1.ca/0a03gJun 19 21:25
TechrightsTitle: 10 ideas about integrating open source into your IT infrastructure | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 57.1 KBJun 19 21:25
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MinceRhttp://forums.somethingawful.com/attachment.php?postid=378413590Jun 19 21:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ive had a free afternoon so I been surfing and discovering a wealth of decent FOSS projects....I'll hopefully be linking them soon.Jun 19 21:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Find yourself some great desktop wallpaper here: http://www.socwall.com/ #wallpaper #linux #freeJun 19 21:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "GPL Compatible" shirts now available http://www.tildehash.com/?article=gpl-shirt People love people who give and shareJun 19 21:33
schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/157006 "@schestowitz seriously, why would anyone download the kernel that way? (and for that matter, are the violating the gpl? do they provide the source?)"Jun 19 21:33
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schestowitzI found that site in Google News (for "Linux"). Seems to have been part of some automated scheme.Jun 19 21:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For those with an R4....some great homebrew titles here: http://defaced.co.uk/best-ds-homebrew/Jun 19 21:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Without Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation 'purist' approach, there would be no Linux or 'open source'." http://ur1.ca/0a04oJun 19 21:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-19-001-39-OS-CY-0003 "Just as there's no such thing as "a little pregnant", there's no such thing as "mostly free". Sure, provide positive alternatives, but if we're going to compromise on freedom, we may as well give up now and stop wasting our time. It's over. Given a sliver of a chance, big money always creeps in and assimilates."Jun 19 21:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Right, that's it. I'm going to sleep for a week. Wake me up when the next episode of Doctor Who is on.Jun 19 21:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @popey lol..yep it was good wasn't it? Although when the Doctor fixes things it will be all back to normal...Jun 19 21:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @popey If you can't wait until next week, don't do what this chap did: (skip to 1m06secs ) - http://tinyurl.com/2ur6yppJun 19 22:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] EU Government Success Stories With Free Software, Odd Case in Norway http://ur1.ca/0a083 http://ur1.ca/0a087Jun 19 22:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Openness and Sharing Debated and Further Promoted http://ur1.ca/08p4a http://ur1.ca/0a089 http://ur1.ca/0a08a http://ur1.ca/0a08bJun 19 22:04
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-19-001-39-OS-CY-0004Jun 19 22:07
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schestowitzLongest day of the year is just about here. 10:01 PM and there's still sign of the Sun in the horizon.Jun 19 22:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of #OpenData Moves http://ur1.ca/0a09x http://ur1.ca/0a09z http://ur1.ca/0a0a1 http://ur1.ca/0a0a4Jun 19 22:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Promoting #OpenAccess again http://ur1.ca/0a09y http://ur1.ca/0a0a0 http://keionline.org/node/868 http://ur1.ca/0a0a3Jun 19 22:17
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schestowitzhttp://linuxmednews.com/1276093749Jun 19 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNUmed is looking for a hand. http://gnumed.blogspot.com/2010/06/gnumed-job-openings.htmlJun 19 22:36
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schestowitzHas anyone tried MooGo? I don't like the Intel part of MeeGo after Intel's many crimes, but it's more open than Android and WebOSJun 19 22:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Around the Web – Some gems Ive found on my travels - http://tinyurl.com/37675h7 #linux #foss #links #gpl #free #gaming #podcast #musicJun 19 22:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Top 5 metal tracks for this week.... 1. Nightwish - She is my sin -http://tinyurl.com/2wdvys9 #metal #yourockonJun 19 23:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 2. Theatres des Vampires - Lilith Mater Inferorum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQjyIw-vG8U #metal #yourockonJun 19 23:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 3. Finntroll - Trollhammeren - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk #metal #yourockonJun 19 23:04
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- FINNTROLL - Trollhammeren (OFFICIAL VIDEO) .::. Size~: 98.71 KBJun 19 23:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 4. Vintersorg - Till Fjälls - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AVdMOgrVa8 #metal #yourockonJun 19 23:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and last but not least, 5. Severed Fifth - Beating Heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUsqGb6tvAM #metal #yourockonJun 19 23:07
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/36847798#notice-37062829 "hmm Yes I see what you mean.quite liked moblin and thought meego might be more of the same but seemed to miss something"Jun 19 23:22
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schestowitz"@schestowitz: I have just gone back to Ubuntu Netbook on this netbook and stilll keep a great big running Kubuntu.moblin now and again!"Jun 19 23:22
schestowitz I still wait for ARM-based devices. I was surprised that MeeGo would address them too. MeeGo is good from freedom POVJun 19 23:24
MinceRwhy? Maemo only ran on ARM devices :>Jun 19 23:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] As expected ♺ @bigbrovar: powerful comment from a member of the #maemo community. someone who should know http://is.gd/cVIvB Nokia misstepsJun 19 23:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just been contacted by the makers of US comedy series who release their material on the net. Watching now...great stuff!..feature to followJun 19 23:32
schestowitzMinceR: did it?Jun 19 23:34
MinceRall the nokia "internet tablets" and the n900 used ARM CPUsJun 19 23:39
schestowitzYes, but there's sourceJun 19 23:39
schestowitzCan you run maemo in a vm?Jun 19 23:39
MinceRok, i don't know what other archs it supports :)Jun 19 23:40
*MinceR is listening to: Mark Klem - Memento Mori OST - The WindJun 19 23:40
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: I tried running maemo in a vmJun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3it choked.Jun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3they have a generic x86 buildJun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3it runs on real hardwareJun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3but vbox freaks outJun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3not sure whyJun 19 23:51
Diablo-D3clearly, its a vbox bug, but mehJun 19 23:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @schestowitz: meego and freedom? not really...Jun 19 23:51

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