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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic1L2xlL8cE&feature=digest | Jun 20 00:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ruiseabra compared to Android | Jun 20 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Code-freeze-for-Debian-6-0-Squeeze-expected-in-August-1022961.html" | Jun 20 00:03 |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: not really interested, I use sid. | Jun 20 00:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have not experienced a code freeze in like 10 years | Jun 20 00:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se3HBy0swoE&feature=digest | Jun 20 00:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @schestowitz: I compare android and meego with #openmoko WRT freedom.Both the formers are quite in the 'lacking' category. | Jun 20 00:06 | |
| *MinceR freezes Diablo-D3's code | Jun 20 00:08 | |
| Diablo-D3 | how cold. | Jun 20 00:08 |
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| MinceR | i see what you did there. | Jun 20 00:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] But then... I try to walk the talk. Been posting from #elmdentica in #openmoko #freerunner running #shrproject with gprs. Main phone, too! | Jun 20 00:20 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 20 00:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @RuiSeabra: any chance you could replace the graphic card? Years ago I destroyed an nvidia graphics card I bought, in protest. Replaced it. | Jun 20 00:37 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/37070088 "Debian 6.0 Squeeze" | Jun 20 01:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Rui Seabra (ruiseabra) 's status on Saturday, 19-Jun-10 23:00:49 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.07 KB | Jun 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz | "I compare android and meego with !openmoko WRT freedom.Both the formers are quite in the 'lacking' category." | Jun 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz | openmoko is dead pretty much, no? | Jun 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I remember some Brazilian schools adopting it | Jun 20 01:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Fuck! ♺ @JMF1957: RT @Jerusalem_Post: Barak off to US for Iran talks: American, Israeli warships reportedly cross Suez. http://bit.ly/badkNx | Jun 20 01:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think i'll turn in for bed. Got to be up early tomorrow...Ive still got quite a few articles to publish....too tired now.. | Jun 20 01:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" | Jun 20 01:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mvalente: Aparentemente ninguém grama as vuvuzelas. Mas então "apitam" sozinhas ou há uma sociedade secreta de apita-vuvuzelas? | Jun 20 01:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft’s Attack on Software Freedom With Software Patents (and the Significance of the #Bilski Case) http://ur1.ca/0a13p #swpats #linux | Jun 20 01:57 | |
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| cubezzz | there's Re-parenting in windows managers? | Jun 20 02:17 |
| cubezzz | can FC1 do that? | Jun 20 02:17 |
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| Ziomatrix | Here's the lowdown on Apple's "HTML5" demo showcase: http://tinyurl.com/39ojbmw | Jun 20 02:26 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] piglets in a basket? RT @osrin: RT @badbanana: Don't tell me a rack of Winnie the Pooh ribs wouldn't be tasty. marinated in honey for years | Jun 20 03:01 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Newlywed couple: Officer blocked us from ER during bride's stroke http://ur1.ca/0a1dn | Jun 20 03:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Leap year anomaly RT @RonaldByrne RT @DzirhanDefence: Home Minister: "surveillance 24/7/365 " and yet 2 F-5E engines got smuggled out | Jun 20 04:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Played Tekken with 5yo again. 150% vs 61% handicap given. The margin will flip in a few years ... or months. | Jun 20 04:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] You won't dissapoint! Sure enjoy! RT @geminianeyes: heads out! A-TEAM TODAY WOOHOO! | Jun 20 04:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Bed Wrestles, stories, PS2, attenborough FTW RT @Ngeow: Happy father's day to all the twitosphere dads. @mrjefe @kamal @yoonkit @blogjunkie | Jun 20 04:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I just created a new Severed Fifth profile on #myspace - go and join us! http://is.gd/cVZfi #severedfifth | Jun 20 04:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] you mean tormentors?! RT @salameander: HFD! You r blessings 2 ur kids n wives. :) @Ngeow @yoonkit @kamal @rizainuddin @denisoakley @hewyk | Jun 20 04:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Stoked to see Severed Fifth Fair Pay being used by some fans to help support the project - http://is.gd/cW0uU #severedfifth | Jun 20 05:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] lazyweb, any suggestions as to where I can go in SG to repair an electric guitar? My sons inherited one from their cousin. #fb | Jun 20 05:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Manggo Lassi is $4.20 ... yet we don't balk at Coffee Bean (@ Thurkah's) http://4sq.com/b2NDmV | Jun 20 05:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] But everyones packing up! Waiting for the afternoon crowd. (@ Maapac Padang Astaka) http://4sq.com/bv11n8 | Jun 20 07:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mono in #Novell ’s Hackweek, More C# in Planet #SUSE , Zonker Still Advertises #OpenSUSE http://ur1.ca/0a2lx | Jun 20 08:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Morning everyone.... | Jun 20 08:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Think I will start the morning with a little Slayradio! http://www.slayradio.org/home.php #demoscene #amiga #radio #online #free | Jun 20 08:17 | |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft's Windows Media format. http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_subpage.php?pk_id=0000005582 | Jun 20 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Jun 20 08:21 |
| cubezzz | aptly named | Jun 20 08:28 |
| cubezzz | what is the deal withh .Xdefaults? | Jun 20 08:29 |
| cubezzz | linux doesn't seem to use it any more | Jun 20 08:29 |
| cubezzz | ah, court of appeals | Jun 20 08:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_stewart_how_youtube_thinks_about_copyright.html | Jun 20 08:32 |
| Techrights | Title: Margaret Gould Stewart: How YouTube thinks about copyright | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 45.72 KB | Jun 20 08:32 |
| cubezzz | ah wait, I have to restart X | Jun 20 08:34 |
| cubezzz | pity | Jun 20 08:34 |
| cubezzz | well if I have to, I have to | Jun 20 08:34 |
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| cubezzz | it works, w00t | Jun 20 08:38 |
| cubezzz | hard to do any chess stuff with 16 megs of ram though | Jun 20 08:40 |
| schestowitz | 16? | Jun 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz | now?\ | Jun 20 08:42 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704289504575312731833664888.html?mod=googlenews_wsj | Jun 20 08:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/18/forrester-ipad-sales-will-plummet/ | Jun 20 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | "When you look at it that way, it's a miracle Apple (AAPL) sold any iPads at all." | Jun 20 08:46 |
| cubezzz | haha | Jun 20 08:46 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Jun 20 08:46 |
| cubezzz | its an experiment | Jun 20 08:46 |
| schestowitz | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-google-command-line-tool.html | Jun 20 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: old old is the pc? | Jun 20 08:46 |
| schestowitz | and what os? | Jun 20 08:46 |
| cubezzz | 17 years | Jun 20 08:47 |
| cubezzz | Linux of course | Jun 20 08:47 |
| cubezzz | 2.2.26 :) | Jun 20 08:47 |
| cubezzz | dual boot with freedos, works surprisingly well | Jun 20 08:47 |
| cubezzz | 16 megs of ram is a lot | Jun 20 08:47 |
| cubezzz | when I first started with Commodore PET we had 8K of ram | Jun 20 08:48 |
| cubezzz | hard to imagine now | Jun 20 08:48 |
| cubezzz | you can't run any modern linux without 256 megs of ram at least | Jun 20 08:50 |
| cubezzz | believe me, I tried it, it was awful | Jun 20 08:51 |
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| cubezzz | however, if you try it with older Linux, even 16 megs of ram isn't too bad | Jun 20 08:51 |
| amarsh04 | I've tried a few times with 192 MiB of RAM in old machines | Jun 20 08:56 |
| amarsh04 | tinycore linux might be worth trying in older machines | Jun 20 08:57 |
| cubezzz | tried it but... | Jun 20 08:57 |
| cubezzz | basic linux is more my cup of tea | Jun 20 08:57 |
| amarsh04 | ah ok... | Jun 20 08:58 |
| amarsh04 | I ran UnixWare 1.0 in 16 MiB - 32 MiB was much better | Jun 20 08:58 |
| amarsh04 | 486DX-33 | Jun 20 08:59 |
| cubezzz | don't think this board would even take 32 megs | Jun 20 08:59 |
| cubezzz | unfortunately | Jun 20 08:59 |
| cubezzz | basic linux is probably the best for 386/486 class machines | Jun 20 09:02 |
| cubezzz | tinycore is still 2.6 | Jun 20 09:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Having a look at a new Twitter client. | Jun 20 09:04 | |
| amarsh04 | My old machine is close to the minimum for running KDE (3.5.10) - PII-266 / 384 MiB RAM | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | amarsh04, I can't even run tinycore: | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | "An absolute minimum of RAM is 48mb. TC won't boot with anything less, no matter how many terabytes of swap you have. | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | Microcore runs with 36mb of ram. | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | The minimum cpu is i486DX (486 with a math processor). | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | " | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | I can't even run _microcore_ :) | Jun 20 09:05 |
| amarsh04 | ah right, I have run Debian on a cyrix (486 equivalent) and 48 MiB of RAM | Jun 20 09:05 |
| cubezzz | people just don't know _old_ :) | Jun 20 09:06 |
| cubezzz | to me, old is PDP-11 | Jun 20 09:06 |
| amarsh04 | I'm not sure if any current linux can run on a 386 without math coprocessor | Jun 20 09:07 |
| amarsh04 | I started with VAX so PDP-11 is pre-historic for me | Jun 20 09:07 |
| cubezzz | tessier told me original Unix didn't even use an MMU | Jun 20 09:07 |
| cubezzz | so the idea that Linux _must_ have a math coprocessor is silly | Jun 20 09:08 |
| cubezzz | but you're probably right | Jun 20 09:08 |
| amarsh04 | no it didn't, one of the old AT&T folk who sometimes posted in the comp.unix.unixware[.misc] had a SVR3.2 still running on a 286 | Jun 20 09:08 |
| cubezzz | the distro maintainers don't care about old | Jun 20 09:08 |
| amarsh04 | not Linux in general, just x86 linux requiring math coprocessor | Jun 20 09:09 |
| cubezzz | ummm | Jun 20 09:09 |
| cubezzz | no :) | Jun 20 09:10 |
| cubezzz | there's no reason it must have a coprocessor | Jun 20 09:10 |
| amarsh04 | does gcc for x86 require a coprocessor? | Jun 20 09:10 |
| cubezzz | no | Jun 20 09:10 |
| cubezzz | you know how I know? | Jun 20 09:10 |
| amarsh04 | how? | Jun 20 09:10 |
| cubezzz | I just did it yesterday :) | Jun 20 09:11 |
| amarsh04 | ah... what cpu? | Jun 20 09:11 |
| cubezzz | 486SLC2 | Jun 20 09:11 |
| amarsh04 | ok... can you leave it doing a kernel compile? (-: | Jun 20 09:12 |
| cubezzz | The IBM version of the 486SX | Jun 20 09:12 |
| cubezzz | no, it's got a pretty small hard drive | Jun 20 09:12 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't even try it | Jun 20 09:12 |
| amarsh04 | thought that might be a limitation | Jun 20 09:12 |
| cubezzz | oh it is for sure | Jun 20 09:13 |
| amarsh04 | any pci slots? | Jun 20 09:13 |
| cubezzz | no :) | Jun 20 09:13 |
| amarsh04 | pre-pci is getting old | Jun 20 09:13 |
| cubezzz | it's good for old dos games though | Jun 20 09:14 |
| amarsh04 | indeed | Jun 20 09:14 |
| cubezzz | way faster than dosbox | Jun 20 09:14 |
| cubezzz | oh and you know what else? | Jun 20 09:15 |
| cubezzz | true 320x200 video mode | Jun 20 09:15 |
| amarsh04 | yes, I threw out cga cards years ago, I used to run cga with a mono monitor | Jun 20 09:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure if I have a 487 socket actually | Jun 20 09:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Happy #FathersDay from #GrouchoMarx! http://m.boingboing.net/2010/06/19/happy-fathers-day.html | Jun 20 09:18 | |
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| cubezzz | may as well try to find the manual | Jun 20 09:19 |
| cubezzz | well it seems IBM does not support it's older computers | Jun 20 09:27 |
| cubezzz | IBM 4381 price: $225,000. | Jun 20 09:32 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jun 20 09:32 |
| cubezzz | up to 64 megs of ram! | Jun 20 09:32 |
| cubezzz | ok, 1987 was a long time ago | Jun 20 09:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Circular Tree of Life - http://bit.ly/d3LtFJ putting things in context; download and print out #evolution | Jun 20 09:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Will the post-oil future be bicycle-free? - http://bit.ly/crJI1y logical really: no rubber, no aluminium, poor roads... #bicycles | Jun 20 09:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] What is wrong with ----- ? http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs148.snc4/36774_413450143296_753383296_4425882_2393706_n.jpg #fun | Jun 20 09:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #chipespiaop4amimnao ♺ @Publico: CDS-PP junta-se à oposição e vai propor a revogação dos chips automóveis no Parlamento http://is.gd/cWdNa | Jun 20 09:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Apparently I look like this to my daughter http://bit.ly/9WRszB which has been made into this http://bit.ly/dCFrDx :) | Jun 20 10:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Today I will mostly be in Whitchurch looking at Sylvanian families.. :S | Jun 20 10:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Circular Tree of Life - http://bit.ly/d3LtFJ putting things in context; download and print out #evolution | Jun 20 10:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya What is wrong with ----- ? http://ur1.ca/0a34c #fun | Jun 20 10:38 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/199124/g4tv_launches_iphone_app_crashes_under_severe_e3_traffic.html | Jun 20 10:56 |
| Techrights | Title: G4TV Launches IPhone App, Crashes Under Severe E3 Traffic - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 62.36 KB | Jun 20 10:56 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Want a nice juicy Severed Fifth update? Get your peepers on http://is.gd/cWhQQ then, my friends. :-) #severedfifth | Jun 20 11:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/18/microsoft-kin-sales-woes-rumor-hints-at-just-500-sold.html | Jun 20 11:12 |
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| schestowitz | LMAO | Jun 20 11:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The internet: Everything you ever need to know - http://bit.ly/btTupB good intro to pass on to the clueless; note especially point 9 #net | Jun 20 11:14 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.slashgear.com/just-500-microsoft-kin-phones-sold-claims-source-1890502/ | Jun 20 11:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Freda: "Everyone like lollipop, and fish!" | Jun 20 11:23 | |
| nawi | lool | Jun 20 11:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Source Scientific Publishing - http://bit.ly/aDfNsf why not apply open source techniques to scientific #publishing? | Jun 20 11:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @foe: RT @moonzoo: the scientific benefits of returning humans to the Moon! http://bit.ly/c8Kfsc | Jun 20 11:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Good skirmish with the Dark Knights. Loss the first, won the subsequent 2. #mapaac I got lots of kills, which I like ;) | Jun 20 11:54 | |
| schestowitz | Is Sen. John Rockefeller related to the late dynasty? | Jun 20 12:02 |
| schestowitz | nawi: http://www.pcworld.com/article/198751/nokia_to_launch_kin_knockoff_social_phone.html?tk=hp_new | Jun 20 12:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Nokia to Launch Kin Knockoff Social Phone - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.51 KB | Jun 20 12:02 |
| MinceR | yes, because nokia has never released phones with social networking support preinstalled before | Jun 20 12:03 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Jun 20 12:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Percentage Freedom per page view http://post.ly/k7Yd | Jun 20 12:03 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Jun 20 12:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: same with Bong wallpaper | Jun 20 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Google put... GASP... a background pic | Jun 20 12:04 |
| schestowitz | And then was accused of copying Microsoft | Jun 20 12:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Google did this a year after Bong was born and it lasted just one day | Jun 20 12:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/35509/Zacks+Analyst+Blog+Highlights%3A+Apple,+Google,+Nokia,+Microsoft+and+Yahoo | Jun 20 12:05 |
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| nawi | that background pic was bullshit though | Jun 20 12:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/28434/20100614/google-microsoft-war.htm | Jun 20 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Takes Shots at Google Goof | Jun 20 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft took a potshot at Google's bid to spice-up its search page by adding a feature to add background images. | Jun 20 12:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 20 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | nawi: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nokia-warning-leads-declines-for-tech-stocks-2010-06-16 | Jun 20 12:30 |
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| Diablo-D3 | [07:01:38] <schestowitz> Microsoft took a potshot at Google's bid to spice-up its search page by adding a feature to add background images | Jun 20 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | most annoying feature ever | Jun 20 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | unless Im doing it on my website | Jun 20 12:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | then its totally okay | Jun 20 12:33 |
| nawi | schestowitz, highlights are not necessary | Jun 20 12:41 |
| schestowitz | OK, but since you mentioned it the other day... | Jun 20 12:42 |
| nawi | no worries :3 | Jun 20 12:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] My fear about Future at 2035 : The Matrix http://post.ly/k7mh | Jun 20 12:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/16/microsoft-google-apple-facebook-twitter-opinions-columnists-john-zogby.html?boxes=Homepagechannels | Jun 20 13:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Is Hong Kong's Copyright Stopping the Publication of Li Peng's Historic Diary? - http://bit.ly/dAtqGF "historic" as in Tiananmen Square... | Jun 20 13:47 | |
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| oiaohm | Nokia X6 Symbian Interesting | Jun 20 14:17 |
| oiaohm | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/19/microsoft_windows_7_iphone_cash/ Ok what the. | Jun 20 14:22 |
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| oiaohm | Is MS trying to lose money. | Jun 20 14:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Acho admiravel como alguns ficam tao ofendidos por Saramago ter 'cuspido' em Portugal. Isso e' nacionalismo bacoco. Critique-se a obra! | Jun 20 14:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Goste-se ou nao, faz mais sentido dizer-se porque nao se gostou do q refugiar a ignorancia na ofensa barata! | Jun 20 14:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Should make it a Boutique Hotel then ;) infra builtin RT @chunwai09: Pudu jail: Someone tried to open up jail to tourists. #Fail | Jun 20 14:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @RayBeckerman: @AFLCIO president Richard L. Trumka on immigration: http://twurl.nl/klw6pp //req'd reading | Jun 20 15:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Happy father's day to me! http://flic.kr/p/8bNjwn | Jun 20 15:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Mesma classeo, sim♺ @joaomiranda: @RuiSeabra É o mesmo nacionalismo bacoco que deu origem a um Panteão Nacional onde querem meter o Saramago | Jun 20 15:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] Yay! New Zealand 1 up on Italy at 7 min! #fb http://ur1.ca/0a4o6 | Jun 20 15:22 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Ground nuts!! Lot of em :D http://twitpic.com/1ygkh2 [pic] | Jun 20 15:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] stupid move by smith! this is football not rugby! #worldcup | Jun 20 15:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Restoran Last Meal RT @alphaque: Death Row Bar! RT @yoonkit: make it a Boutique Hotel RT @chunwai09: Pudu: open up to tourists. | Jun 20 15:39 | |
| nawi | some of this twitter spam is quite annoying | Jun 20 15:42 |
| nawi | football.. | Jun 20 15:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ALRA recomenda Gov Reg Açores «ADOPÇÃO DE MEDIDAS QUE FACILITEM A INTRODUÇÃO DE SISTEMAS E APLICAÇÕES DE SOFTWARE LIVRE» http://is.gd/cWw3E | Jun 20 15:59 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] I was using #WebM on Fedora 13 with @spot 's chromium build :) | Jun 20 16:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Azores parliament recommends regional government to facilitate adoption of Free Software http://is.gd/cWw3E | Jun 20 16:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Too bad the document with the details is in a server that's unavailable... | Jun 20 16:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] I don't understand the kacang ad. RT @meshlah: so is the myeg ad RT @ppremk: This power root ad is fckin annoying!! | Jun 20 16:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] We aren't kidding. Goat testicles. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/John_R._Brinkley | Jun 20 16:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Italy get another draw? #Worldcup | Jun 20 16:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra Azores parliament recommends regional government to facilitate adoption of Free Software http://is.gd/cWw3E | Jun 20 16:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/36936310#notice-37168046 "I won't, of course Intel has done wrongs. No reason to dismiss them (not for those governments either btw)." > agreed. I would rather pay ARM though. | Jun 20 16:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] Well done, Kiwis! Holding Italy to a draw is no easy task! 1-1 at end of 94 minutes! #fb | Jun 20 16:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[harishpillay] Rubbish! Really? Or rid $tarTel do this on purpose? Put up you own antenna for both RTM TV1 and Indonesia's RCTI #fb http://ur1.ca/0a5g6 | Jun 20 17:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've had a chat with a mate who works at O2 and he says Apple is the worst. He never dealt with a company as difficult as #Apple | Jun 20 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | Patent Office Seeks Input on Three-Track Examination Proposal > http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/patent-office-seeks-input-on-three-track-examination-proposal/?cs=41726 | Jun 20 17:17 |
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| schestowitz | nawi: yeah, lots of WC junk | Jun 20 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Other Linux sites try to gain some support: http://www.dedoimedo.com/donate.html | Jun 20 17:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just about to post a review of Turpial 1.3.3 .....It's good but..... #linux #foss #turpial | Jun 20 17:40 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/06/remote_printing.html "And why would HP fix the spam problem when it will just enable them to sell overpriced ink cartridges faster?" | Jun 20 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0616/limbaugh-kids-dumpster-dive/ | Jun 20 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0617/stewart-recalls-presidents-failed-oil/ | Jun 20 17:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Turpial 1.3.3 – A native Twitter client for Linux - http://tinyurl.com/2vntjdv #turpial #linux #foss #twitter #client #free | Jun 20 17:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here are some wonderful photos: http://surfwithberserk.com/infrared-trees | Jun 20 18:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I found some great creative commons music courtesy of SLAYradio ....get yourself over! http://www.slayradio.org | Jun 20 18:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] After a busy day Im back on irc.spotchat.org in #peppermint....come over for a chat! | Jun 20 18:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] What would you use? Bittorrent or Usenet? Personally I find BT overated, Usenet can achieve far greater transfer speeds. | Jun 20 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/17/republican-rep-apolo.html | Jun 20 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | Mac Asay has a new blog theme: http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-ragnar-life.html | Jun 20 18:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://www.tomsmithonline.com/ - "I fought the troll (and the troll lost)" Great tracks by a talented chap... #music #free #troll #mp3 | Jun 20 18:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Want to try Linux but feel attached to XP? Try: http://www.linux-xp.com #microsoft #windows #xp #vista #windows7 #win7 #mvp #7 #free #linux | Jun 20 18:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWOhrQHP2j0&feature=digest | Jun 20 18:36 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Microsoft dishes out free Office 2010 to testers" http://tinyurl.com/384ydk3 - lets expect loads of praise from the receivers #microsoft | Jun 20 18:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Give em a free gift, they will shill for life. http://tinyurl.com/384ydk3 #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #win7 #mvp #office #rubbish #fail | Jun 20 18:49 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] High heels are a device invented by a woman who was tired of being kissed on the forehead. (via .@abbe) ~ :D You said it right, damn!! | Jun 20 19:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WvasALL-hw&feature=digest | Jun 20 19:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Expectations | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/2uavddh | Jun 20 19:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] irc.underworld.no - #slayradio a great place too! | Jun 20 19:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Should Retractions be Behind a Paywall? - http://bit.ly/9ijKUP when The Times got it wrong - as here - how should they retract now? | Jun 20 19:31 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/jejemon/ | Jun 20 19:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody see this new video to understand the importance of these retractions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WvasALL-hw&feature=digest | Jun 20 19:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz thanks, hadn't seen that before | Jun 20 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/06/15/yahoo-takes-control-of-flickercom | Jun 20 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/adaptec_fires_cfo/ Gone. | Jun 20 20:11 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jun 20 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Does this run Linux? http://www.pcworld.com/article/198705/Boxee.html?tk=rss_news | Jun 20 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | Heh: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/burger_van/ | Jun 20 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | Do they give napkins with that? Blech | Jun 20 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Not for Steve Jobs. | Jun 20 20:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1685582/china-investigates-foxconn-suicides | Jun 20 20:17 |
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| Aondo | schestowitz yes, boxee runs a flavour of ubuntu | Jun 20 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jun 20 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I needed to know if I could showcase it as a Linux device | Jun 20 20:28 |
| Aondo | been waiting for that thing now, for ages :D | Jun 20 20:28 |
| schestowitz | "Science GCSEs set to replace the pack of dumbed down current exams have been rejected for being too easy." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/16/science_gcse/ Exams here are getting easier to meet targets, still | Jun 20 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Aondo: not mythtv? | Jun 20 20:29 |
| Aondo | i like boxee more | Jun 20 20:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another link to check out http://www.scenemusic.eu - Nectarine - Demoscene Radio! #demoscene #amiga #free #radio | Jun 20 20:36 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1686616/htc-sends-cease-desist-letter | Jun 20 20:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here in the UK all carriers must keep logs of mobile phone users' location. This means phones are tracking devices without data expiry date. | Jun 20 20:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://amayfield.posterous.com/usa-goal-reenactment-by-my-son-and-his-uncle | Jun 20 20:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Really? Where is this from? In addition, if GPS is not enabled then its a rather hit and miss affair to get a decent location. | Jun 20 20:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Knickers in knots RT @alphaque: He sees nuts as bouncing balls. The same things actually, like gonads. :-) RT @yoonkit: #kacang ad | Jun 20 20:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/data_centre_cooling/ | Jun 20 20:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Someone who works for O2 told me today | Jun 20 20:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin no, they can use triangulations from spots, he told me | Jun 20 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | Guys wearing dresses as IT award :-) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/18/technologists_royal/ | Jun 20 20:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Triangulation at best is good for a 500 sq meter radius of someones location...as for keeping records of locations... | Jun 20 20:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz then they may well do, its probably agreed to by the user in the T&C somewhere, it is not part of some surveillance though | Jun 20 20:46 | |
| DaemonFC | The Teabaggers were passing out pocket-sized copies of the US Constitution at the local street fair that's going on this week | Jun 20 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | I hope they ripped out the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth amendments first, because otherwise they're betraying everything they stand for :) | Jun 20 20:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz as in the case of anon pay as you go, it would be pretty pointless and can you image the amount of data that would be collected | Jun 20 20:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin that's exactly what I asked him about -- the T&C | Jun 20 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | Yikes | Jun 20 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Extreme right | Jun 20 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I bet they leave out the part of the cont' which calls for freedom from theism | Jun 20 20:48 |
| MinceR | (animated) http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/bluxero/workout.gif | Jun 20 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | They love lying on TV, saying that 'God' had something to do with the country and that therefore abortion is murder, stem cell research is illegal, etc. | Jun 20 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" | Jun 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | first sentence in the bill of rights | Jun 20 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I find it ironic the mock the same document which had people escape Europe for religious and ethnic prosecutions (e.g. Protestant vs Catholic) | Jun 20 20:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Hopefully he wasn't the one who missed the 2nd goal arm-ball? RT @ShaolinTiger: there's a Malaysian official! #BRA #CIV | Jun 20 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but Obama is the "anti-Christ" :-) :-) | Jun 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Catholics here are pretty funny | Jun 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know about the rest of the world | Jun 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | but here, they're the alcoholics, child molestors, adulterers, etc. and then they come to confession | Jun 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | and it's all OK again | Jun 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | what a crock | Jun 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Do they really think their god is so fucking stupid that they can confess and repent with the intent to do it all over again next week? | Jun 20 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | they're insulting their god if that's the case | Jun 20 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, if I was God (and I'm not), I would be angry with that | Jun 20 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Protestants have the same mindset, only they cut out the middle man and pray for their own forgiveness and then go do it all over again | Jun 20 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | but they sin real quiet-like | Jun 20 20:53 |
| MinceR | if i was their god i'd be angry with them anyway | Jun 20 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | they pretend to be living "moral, clean lives" | Jun 20 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | until they get exposed | Jun 20 20:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz They do (I believe) keep data for short periods and historically its been used to work out roughly where a call was made | Jun 20 20:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz in respect of say missing persons....as to the hoops that are needed to be jumped through in order for a govt body to obtain | Jun 20 20:53 | |
| MinceR | but not being theirs i'm angry with them anyway | Jun 20 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: My uncle weighs about 400 pounds, his whole family is similarly obese | Jun 20 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | The bible says Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins, BY NAME | Jun 20 20:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz that info in the first place......It could never be used in any other capacity other than a few historic cases.. | Jun 20 20:54 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 20 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | but he still finds time to pull me to the side at every family get together and tell me I'm going to hell | Jun 20 20:55 |
| MinceR | i thought daemons went to the Abyss or Gehenna | Jun 20 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | he also yells at my aunt for smoking, which isn't even in the bible, is it? | Jun 20 20:55 |
| MinceR | depending on how we interpret the "ae" | Jun 20 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | is there anything in the bible that says anything at all about tobacco? | Jun 20 20:56 |
| MinceR | don't ask me | Jun 20 20:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Did you know that the yellow/red card system was a Msian invention? RT @galvintan The Msian ref is 4th official- Asias top ref @ShaolinTiger | Jun 20 20:56 | |
| DaemonFC | so he can't find any "scripture" so he falls back to a suitably generic "You're defiling your body" | Jun 20 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | I was thinking "You're about one jelly doughnut away from meeting god, and you want to talk to me about defiling anything? | Jun 20 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 20:57 |
| MinceR | why only thinking? | Jun 20 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | because I didn't want to stoop to his level, start a war, and then have him manage to offshift all the blame onto me | Jun 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | because it's what would happen | Jun 20 20:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz O2 staff should worry more about why their DNS servers are so bad and the unreliable connection! ;) | Jun 20 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Al Bundy once said "Love, hate? They're family, what's the difference?" | Jun 20 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 20 20:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/14/palin_gate/ | Jun 20 21:00 |
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| MinceR | she should be grateful it takes attention away from her ideological and ecological views :> | Jun 20 21:02 |
| schestowitz | That's what I thought | Jun 20 21:02 |
| schestowitz | It's about the person, not the policies | Jun 20 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Same with Obama, IMHO | Jun 20 21:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin initially it can be used for "security reasons"; later that may change | Jun 20 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | He had a good story to tell about a tough children/upbringing, and that's what counts when you need a spokesman/rep posing as a decision maker | Jun 20 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | conservatives would never allow a female politician to begin with | Jun 20 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | damn women and their "right to vote" :P | Jun 20 21:03 |
| schestowitz | _right_ to vote | Jun 20 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | You know by the letter of our constitution, women are disqualified from being the President | Jun 20 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure the courts would interpret all the "He/his/him" and so on references to include women if they need arose | Jun 20 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not how the law is written | Jun 20 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | *the | Jun 20 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Palin coun't keep abreast of Biden and Obama | Jun 20 21:05 |
| MinceR | abreast, you say? | Jun 20 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some pair will get her elected in 2012 | Jun 20 21:05 |
| schestowitz | The land of Playboy and Hustler | Jun 20 21:05 |
| MinceR | yes, maybe it only takes a pair | Jun 20 21:05 |
| schestowitz | And MICKEY mouse | Jun 20 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | all gender references in the US constitution are masculine | Jun 20 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | even the 19th Amendment which gives women the right to vote never mentions women | Jun 20 21:06 |
| schestowitz | We have our copyright law exported from the US | Jun 20 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Canada too ATM | Jun 20 21:06 |
| schestowitz | But it's originally a British law, Hollywood is just good at making it more perverse | Jun 20 21:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I suppose, but then unless we go back to 100% cash based system, there are plenty of other ways to track peoples movements. | Jun 20 21:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Fixed my Rotor loader - a small pebble was lodged between the gears causing it to seize up at certain rotations. | Jun 20 21:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: a strict interpretation of the US constitution says a woman cannot be the president | Jun 20 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | they could be senators or representatives only because there are no gender references as qualifications for those seats | Jun 20 21:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/contactless_mobile_charges/ | Jun 20 21:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin payments are not made once in a few seconds | Jun 20 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | The Conservatives had to throw out their anti-women platform shortly after women became eligible to vote | Jun 20 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 20 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | in the following decades, that platform slowly eroded | Jun 20 21:09 |
| MinceR | what was that platform about anyway? | Jun 20 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | now it's just the gays, blacks, jews, etc. | Jun 20 21:09 |
| MinceR | "let's find out a way to reproduce without women and eliminate them"? :> | Jun 20 21:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and phones lose signal....try using one in the underground....thats someones movements around London gone. | Jun 20 21:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and if everyone knows that it can be tracked, what purpose does it serve when someone wants to hide their movements? | Jun 20 21:09 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: "Biblical values" say that women are property, at best | Jun 20 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | not leaders | Jun 20 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | never leaders | Jun 20 21:10 |
| MinceR | that's very typical of their so-called "values" | Jun 20 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: A true "conservative" would never "allow" his wife to work outside the home | Jun 20 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | her role is incubating his offspring | Jun 20 21:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz they can either switch off the phone, get a pay as you go or just not have one at all. | Jun 20 21:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Its no secret that a phone could be used to track, so there goes the benefit of tracking in the first place... | Jun 20 21:10 | |
| DaemonFC | and having dinner ready | Jun 20 21:11 |
| yuhong | If you think undocumented APIs are bad enough, IBM mainframes had undocumented *CPU instructions*. | Jun 20 21:11 |
| MinceR | even x86 cpus had those, did they not? | Jun 20 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: And being "put back into her place" if she mouths off | Jun 20 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and for the rest of the populas....theres no worth in knowing that x amount of people are currently in WH Smiths...or is there? | Jun 20 21:11 | |
| yuhong | Yes, but IBM used many of them in it's own OSes like MVS. | Jun 20 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: World War II started the feminist movement | Jun 20 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | men are all gone, women work in factories | Jun 20 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | women call the shots | Jun 20 21:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Some like to think that govt is trying to monitor/control everyone. The govt really doesn't care in the case of the general populas. | Jun 20 21:12 | |
| DaemonFC | they got a taste of that and never wanted to give it back | Jun 20 21:12 |
| yuhong | http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg38347.html | Jun 20 21:13 |
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| DaemonFC | finally the "conservatives" budged forward an inch to accommodate this | Jun 20 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | the patients have taken over the nuthouse, as it were | Jun 20 21:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Some like to think that govt is trying to monitor/control everyone. The govt really doesnt care in the case of general populas. | Jun 20 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | It's a lot easier to "gain equality" when the group is half or more of the total population | Jun 20 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | now the conservatives just pick on anyone they figure doesn't have the numbers to sway an election | Jun 20 21:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin in the past, governments used this power malevolently under particular conditions. We oughtn't ignore history. Spying gives power. | Jun 20 21:15 | |
| DaemonFC | it's why apartheid in South Africa was so stunning | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | whites were never more than like 11% of the population there | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | and managed to pull that off | Jun 20 21:16 |
| MinceR | they controlled the majority of the resources | Jun 20 21:16 |
| MinceR | and that's all that matters | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | we had slave uprisings in the southern US states where blacks were not much more than 20% of the population | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | where they killed their masters, wiped out entire towns | Jun 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | and there in South Africa, they were 89% of the population and didn't overthrow anyone | Jun 20 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | just went along with it all | Jun 20 21:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin also see http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1686330/san-francisco-tell-world-mobile-phone-radiation ( @fabsh won't like it) | Jun 20 21:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz This is the point....where has this type of tracking been used before? | Jun 20 21:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I can't think of an example where the average citizen has been spied on at that level...or tracked. | Jun 20 21:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Russia, Germany, maybe even Cambodia. | Jun 20 21:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "Bit of argy-bargy going on on the touchline" #worldcup #bra #civ | Jun 20 21:18 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: How do you outnumber the other guys 9-1 and lose? | Jun 20 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's what I mean | Jun 20 21:19 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 20 21:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I hasten to add that tracking is used for good, for example monitoring serious offenders movements...should that be removed? | Jun 20 21:19 | |
| MinceR | didn't the blacks in southern USA get support from some of the whites? | Jun 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If I was them, I would have raided all the police stations, and taken their weapons | Jun 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | then it's time to pay a visit to the capital | Jun 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yeah, in some cases | Jun 20 21:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin profiling is criminalisation by selection. I can find you civil liberty movies that explain this | Jun 20 21:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin knives too can be used for good, e.g. for chopping carrots | Jun 20 21:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] "There's a real skirmish going on now!" #worldcup #bra #civ kaka sent off! | Jun 20 21:20 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Teaching them to read and passing out bibles was a mistake | Jun 20 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:21 |
| MinceR | nope | Jun 20 21:21 |
| MinceR | passing out bibles was a mistake | Jun 20 21:21 |
| MinceR | as it always is | Jun 20 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that was the cause of one of the biggest uprisings | Jun 20 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | people will more readily accept slavery if they're ignorant that there is anything else | Jun 20 21:22 |
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| DaemonFC | one way to keep them ignorant is to ban them from reading and writing | Jun 20 21:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin see for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-FIEd_CekM&feature=channel | Jun 20 21:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Im sure, but do you agree or disagree that the monitoring of say a serious sexual offender is a good thing? I think it is. | Jun 20 21:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Was it not spock who said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"...public safety...you have to infringe on | Jun 20 21:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | of course another way is to let them read and write, but control all the reading material | Jun 20 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's how modern slavery works :D | Jun 20 21:23 |
| MinceR | what did they do in south africa? | Jun 20 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, every documentary I've seen has portrayed them as cattle | Jun 20 21:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz the civil liberties of some (the offender) in order to protect the masses (the law abiding public) | Jun 20 21:23 | |
| DaemonFC | terrified of the white man and all of his terrible weapons | Jun 20 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 20 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that they tolerated apartheid for decades might back some of that up | Jun 20 21:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin do they should track convicted offenders, the way it was done decades ago | Jun 20 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | if the situation got bad enough, eventually the group would have decided that even heavy losses are preferable to continued slavery | Jun 20 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/science-news/health/39857-tea-and-coffee-drinkers-have-better-hearts | Jun 20 21:25 |
| schestowitz | I wonder, why are there so many articles on child pr0n? Is this sick epidemic really widespread or are legistaltors -- as they admit -- just use this scare to pass new laws? "Cyber war" is another scare tactic. | Jun 20 21:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Firstly you did not answer the question, secondly that vid is from the US. | Jun 20 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | Zombie PCs and pedophiles are now used as an excuse to keep a full log of /everyone's/ browser history | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | And DPI/Phorm monotises this.. PRIVATE companies | Jun 20 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | terrorists, child porn, and zombie PCs | Jun 20 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | oh my! | Jun 20 21:27 |
| schestowitz | p2p makes terrorists | Jun 20 21:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I can cite many other countries who have a harsher (and indeed slacker) surviellance culture than ours. | Jun 20 21:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin visit BigBrotherWatch. It's British | Jun 20 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | And terrosists molest children | Jun 20 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Most of the arrests they make based on those laws are amateurs | Jun 20 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | THeir story says terrorists are funded by file sharing *LOL* | Jun 20 21:28 |
| schestowitz | It's ALL CONNECTED!!!!! it's proven! | Jun 20 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: And children molested b terrorists have a 80% chance of growing up to be gay | Jun 20 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | don't forget that | Jun 20 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | and a 90% chance of using marijuana by age 14 | Jun 20 21:29 |
| schestowitz | It's an "illness" | Jun 20 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and that, as far as Ive seen so far, has nothing to do with the subject at hand, tracking people via mobile phone allegations. | Jun 20 21:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin like China or Iran? | Jun 20 21:29 | |
| *DaemonFC was never molested by marijuana smoking terrorists that stalked him online | Jun 20 21:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/199036/Three_Things_We_Like_to_See_From_New_Motorola_Droid.html?tk=rss_news | Jun 20 21:30 |
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| DaemonFC | but then again, that suff didn't exist back then | Jun 20 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I was at a public meeting the other month where the big complaint from the residents was that there was not enough CCTV. | Jun 20 21:30 | |
| schestowitz | What didn't? | Jun 20 21:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin it does actually. | Jun 20 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the marijuana existed back then, schestowitz | Jun 20 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | but you see, it didn't fund terrorists | Jun 20 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | it just made you go blind and grow hair on your palms | Jun 20 21:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz pro/anti I'd say the voice in favor is louder than the voice against....me, I'd rather not have to have CCTV, unfortunately | Jun 20 21:31 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin CCTV doesn't cuff people | Jun 20 21:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz we live in a world where some cannot be trusted to behave unsupervised. | Jun 20 21:31 | |
| DaemonFC | the funding of terrorism was just another thing they pinned on it after 9/11 | Jun 20 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | when you toke up, you smoke with Osama | Jun 20 21:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin they must have been brainwashed by the "more cameras"="less crime" myth (like patents->innovation myth) | Jun 20 21:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz no it doesn't...but it does prevent. Unfortunately its quite hard to measure crimes it has prevented. | Jun 20 21:32 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They can't find a 6' 4" Arab who has to undergo kidney dialysis twice a week | Jun 20 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | but they found time to stop and do mineral surveys | Jun 20 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Speak to most homeowners about CCTV. I would love to place money on them being pro-CCTV. | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin it's better for catching after the act, more rarely as a deterrent. Junkies don't think of CCTV, they just go for the money | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin case it relocates the crime | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and I would remind you of the innocent victims who have been brought justice through the aid of CCTV. | Jun 20 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Too bad the Soviets didn't know those deposits were there | Jun 20 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | they would have stayed and redoubled their efforts | Jun 20 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | we might all be speaking Russian now | Jun 20 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 20 21:34 |
| MinceR | i do speak a bit of russian | Jun 20 21:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin you migrate criminals to CCTV-free zones. You push them 'underground' so to speak | Jun 20 21:34 | |
| DaemonFC | Communist! | Jun 20 21:34 |
| MinceR | wrong | Jun 20 21:35 |
| MinceR | but thanks for playing | Jun 20 21:35 |
| *DaemonFC was kidding | Jun 20 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Better dead than Red! | Jun 20 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Comrade | Jun 20 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 20 21:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin depends what people are told and what evidence they are presented with. You can make them believe global warming is a hoax, too | Jun 20 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly8_wwGuU2Q | Jun 20 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | spasiva, MinceR | Jun 20 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | this was the best part of Fallout 3 | Jun 20 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Liberty Prime | Jun 20 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=65841 | Jun 20 21:37 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Red Chinese Detected! | Jun 20 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 20 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Red? | Jun 20 21:38 |
| schestowitz | From That 70s Show? | Jun 20 21:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1686174/vuvus | Jun 20 21:42 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't even know why they have the AK-47 in that game | Jun 20 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's useless against most body armor | Jun 20 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | including those giant lizards | Jun 20 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Twitter has ADS? Where??? http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/06/17/twitter.ads.cashmore/index.html | Jun 20 21:43 |
| Techrights | Title: Why Twitter's new ads are ingenious - CNN.com .::. Size~: 39.92 KB | Jun 20 21:43 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, rifle shoot you | Jun 20 21:44 |
| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/18/vuvuzela.online/index.html | Jun 20 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: World Cup vuvuzelas buzz of internet, too - CNN.com .::. Size~: 40.19 KB | Jun 20 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | heh, TV ads | Jun 20 21:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: any good film on YouTube? | Jun 20 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I have an hour to burn | Jun 20 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's what the DVR is for | Jun 20 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | don't know | Jun 20 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Youtube has been pretty lame ever since they implemented the policy of taking down anything at the cartel's request | Jun 20 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I prefer those Russian and Chinese sites that let people post anything | Jun 20 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | of course navigating them can be difficult | Jun 20 21:47 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/36974644#notice-37191495 "@schestowitz the climate change exaggeration? why don't you see the banks who fund these pro environmental movements" | Jun 20 21:48 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, he's /stil/ doing it | Jun 20 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I was watching a TV show about one of our nuclear waste disposal sites, and how they rigged up the warning system to be effective for 10,000 years | Jun 20 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | including an "information center" with the warnings written on stone tablets in 6 different languages | Jun 20 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | do they fund the climatologists | Jun 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 20 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | one of the EPA's requirements was a 10,000 year warning system | Jun 20 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | designed to be effective even after civilization as we know it collapses | Jun 20 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | one of the people designing it was talking about how things like skulls and crossbones may not be effective, because some cultures would see that as a welcoming | Jun 20 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain | Jun 20 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | someone from @ClimateDebate / @AI_v2 just sent me "CSIRO: Human activities are changing the climate" http://to.ly/4KuD | Jun 20 21:53 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository | Jun 20 21:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I quite agree, and that is a problem, but then it sort of corroborates what I said before about making tracking completely | Jun 20 21:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz ineffective. Those that will commit crime will circumvent it.,,ergo the whole process is worthless. | Jun 20 21:53 | |
| schestowitz | "It neighbors the Nevada Test and Training Range and the Nevada Test Site. The Nevada Test Site was home to 904 atomic bomb tests between 1945 and 1992.[2] Although the Department of Energy is planning to consider other options to Yucca Mountain, it remains the only legal site in the United States for development as a deep geologic repository" | Jun 20 21:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz In respect of CCTV and if it prevents or not, let me ask you this...Do you think a lock on your door stops a burglar? Will | Jun 20 21:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz you leave your door unlocked since most burglaries do not involve coming through your door? Or do you lock it because it makes | Jun 20 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz you feel better? | Jun 20 21:55 | |
| squarepeg | ^_^ | Jun 20 21:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin bad analogy. A cam is not a lock | Jun 20 21:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz In respect of global warming a hoax, we are talking about a different topic, science. I would expect those with a non- | Jun 20 21:56 | |
| squarepeg | What's new? | Jun 20 21:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin to use a better analogy, if you had your webcam pointing at the garden, would you feel safer? | Jun 20 21:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz scientific background can be convinced to believe either side of the argument... | Jun 20 21:57 | |
| amarsh04 | for an overview of Japan's space program with commentary in English: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf-vhuZQY3M | Jun 20 21:58 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Space for Humankind - JAXA Activities - [HD] .::. Size~: 81.75 KB | Jun 20 21:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin what I was saying is, let people watch Fox 'News' and they might believe there's a hoax there. Rubbish in, rubbish out | Jun 20 21:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I'd certainly like to know why whilst the Earth may be warming, the scientists are telling us Mars is too. | Jun 20 21:58 | |
| DaemonFC | "The storage standard set a dose limit of 15 millirem per year for the public outside the Yucca Mountain site. " | Jun 20 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 20 21:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin among climate experts, the "two sides" are not the ones shown in the Murdoch 'press' | Jun 20 21:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I would really not like to comment about global warming. What I can say though is that if it is man made, we can't stop it.. | Jun 20 21:59 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: let them eay Yucca | Jun 20 22:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz since the worst offenders are not jumping on board with enough to prevent it.. | Jun 20 22:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin the Sun might get hotter, but the question we ask is, what is man's contribution to add to natural factors? See Venus for warning | Jun 20 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | *wat | Jun 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz | *Eat | Jun 20 22:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and some people will always believe what they see on TV. Its why we have some thinking that man didn't land on the moon. | Jun 20 22:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin "What I can say though is that if it is man made, we can't stop it.." -> the solution is in your question/argument | Jun 20 22:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz no the point was, we (as the UK) can and should at least try to reduce carbon emissions...with that in mind, whilst we are | Jun 20 22:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz doing that, other countries are not, completely offsetting any contribution we make. | Jun 20 22:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin re "Its why we have some thinking that man didn't land on the moon." > that's why you need to suppress bunk statements | Jun 20 22:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin contraception is the permanent solution to it | Jun 20 22:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz So if global warming is man made (and I can quite believe it is) then our efforts are pointless. | Jun 20 22:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and in the process have given other bodies the means to "cash in" on our feelings of duty in cutting carbon emissions. | Jun 20 22:04 | |
| squarepeg | ಠ_ಠ | Jun 20 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Contraception is promoting reverse evolution | Jun 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: probably | Jun 20 22:05 |
| squarepeg | DaemonFC: how do you figure? | Jun 20 22:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz but then you talk about civil liberties? Surely the right to have children is a fundamental right? You don't mean enforced | Jun 20 22:05 | |
| MinceR | not if it's applied where it's necessary | Jun 20 22:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz contraception do you? | Jun 20 22:05 | |
| DaemonFC | The people most beneficial to society are the ones using it | Jun 20 22:05 |
| squarepeg | schestowitz: what's up? | Jun 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Some of the rich people try steralisation | Jun 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | squarepeg: good. and you? | Jun 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | all ok her, nothing's up | Jun 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | *here | Jun 20 22:06 |
| squarepeg | alright, nice day here | Jun 20 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | You ever notice that poor/uneducated people tend to always have like 12 kids? | Jun 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | 12? | Jun 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Combination of not having anything to lose by not using contraception | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | 12 y-o? | Jun 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | and getting welfare for having them | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's not hereditary | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | It's education that makes up a mind | Jun 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | wealthier, more educated people use contraception because there's nothing to gain and everything to lose | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | We're still the same creature as 10k years ago | Jun 20 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | by having kids | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Almost same height, same qualitied | Jun 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | People who build the pyramids are potentially as smart as us | Jun 20 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, so welfare and lack of education promote irresponsible reproduction by people that aren't very bright | Jun 20 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's my guess anyway | Jun 20 22:08 |
| schestowitz | You could take them into our schools and make them presidents | Jun 20 22:08 |
| schestowitz | What sets us apart if progress with science | Jun 20 22:08 |
| schestowitz | That's all | Jun 20 22:08 |
| schestowitz | High technology is daemonised by the people in the country behind this past century's big discoveries. | Jun 20 22:09 |
| schestowitz | It's odd | Jun 20 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Leading in science but also in religion among the Western world | Jun 20 22:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Praise White Jesus! | Jun 20 22:12 |
| MinceR | white? :> | Jun 20 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Typical Christian condemns science while living in their environmentally-adjusted, electrically powered home with a programmable 12 cup coffee maker, 4 slice bagel toaster, refrigerator, oven, washer/dryer, two car garage with a third car parked outside...... | Jun 20 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I wsay if you want to damn science, try not living with it | Jun 20 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | go wipe your ass with pine cones | Jun 20 22:15 |
| MinceR | they also use computers to condemn science on the Internet | Jun 20 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | touche | Jun 20 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: White Jesus told them to get on the internet and spread the word of White Jesus | Jun 20 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | (and occasionally look at porn while the wife and kids are gone) | Jun 20 22:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 20 22:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqVsNBnLynU&NR=1 | Jun 20 22:18 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNCpD3xhsY | Jun 20 22:18 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Boondocks - 'White' Heaven .::. Size~: 80.52 KB | Jun 20 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boondocks_(TV_series) | Jun 20 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: heaven segregation | Jun 20 22:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki4UKsI8bms&NR=1 | Jun 20 22:31 |
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| MinceR | white is good, dark is evil | Jun 20 22:31 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/36989175#notice-37207547 "hmm .denial people will be making a come back as the cut backs are a coming I am afraid" | Jun 20 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: because we see light as certainty | Jun 20 22:32 |
| schestowitz | And dark represents no photons coming in, i.e. threat, no information | Jun 20 22:33 |
| schestowitz | there's stigma about black cats | Jun 20 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Their sins is that their fur absorbs light :-) | Jun 20 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=invBjPmY8iE | Jun 20 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Fur that absorbs light is obviously evil, it doesn't just keep the animal warmer | Jun 20 22:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: LOL | Jun 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Did you see that video? | Jun 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Giant statue | Jun 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | I suppose you heard about... | Jun 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | [let me get it...] | Jun 20 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's like he's on the dashboard of the whole country! | Jun 20 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 22:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_txEdVXFu0&feature=digest | Jun 20 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Lightning strikes him | Jun 20 22:37 |
| schestowitz | It falls down burning | Jun 20 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | "Burt and Ernie left it to your imagination!" | Jun 20 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 20 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I saw a video of it yesterday | Jun 20 22:41 |
| schestowitz | The atheist channels are having a field day | Jun 20 22:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Simpsons fall in a cable car and not with a scratch | Jun 20 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Flanders | Jun 20 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Jun 20 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Scientifically implausible | Jun 20 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | "I don't have $100,000, but if you need it that much, you'll be in my prayers!" | Jun 20 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Homer: "Go suck a bible!" | Jun 20 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 20 22:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNLibJUEJw | Jun 20 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: if he sucks a bible it might blow | Jun 20 22:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Jim Adams from Defiance joins Severed Fifth on Guitar - http://is.gd/cWPhu #severedfifth | Jun 20 22:51 | |
| Techrights | Title: Jim Adams joins Severed Fifth on Guitar | Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 18.96 KB | Jun 20 22:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Yeah.... Im in a top 50 list of writers for comp.os.linux.advocacy. I'm sure news agencies will be knocking down my door soon!! ;) | Jun 20 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | Aha. So this is our my trash is sorted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls_Y7cadISc | Jun 20 22:54 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Science Channel - Single Stream Recycling MRF .::. Size~: 72.08 KB | Jun 20 22:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] While I wait for that to happen, I'm quite happy loitering with you folks here.....I'll let you know which newspaper calls first! ;) | Jun 20 22:54 | |
| schestowitz | Look what the back end of this machine does: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvHuX32_--g&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Jun 20 22:59 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Polystyrene recycling, Styrofoam recycling .::. Size~: 93.14 KB | Jun 20 22:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/15371 - UFO: Alien Invasion for Linux - I'm sure the last time I played this it was on an 8bit system.. | Jun 20 23:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: LinuxGames - Embrace your inner penguin .::. Size~: 16.88 KB | Jun 20 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JQYwF4VyiY&NR=1 | Jun 20 23:04 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Recycling Milk Jugs into Fencing .::. Size~: 85.75 KB | Jun 20 23:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Indiana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kx_rgEDPsE&NR=1 | Jun 20 23:06 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- 9 Year Old Turns Plastic Bottles Into Benches ! .::. Size~: 81.1 KB | Jun 20 23:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Leaving comments on podcast blogs who spread misinformation about Ubuntu.. then bed :) | Jun 20 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1XBSoovQtY&feature=fvw | Jun 20 23:09 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Weekend Project: 2 Liter Bottle Recycling .::. Size~: 101.41 KB | Jun 20 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Modern garbage management sorts out anything that has value for recycling anyway | Jun 20 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | metals are easiest, they can be picked out with giant magnets | Jun 20 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:10 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/158973 "i have to disagree- i'm PRO PRO PRO contraception, but until people understand that the relationship between food and population isn't exclusive to every species but ours, we'll have problems- contraception isn't enough" | Jun 20 23:10 |
| Techrights | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Sunday, 20-Jun-10 21:23:25 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 8 KB | Jun 20 23:10 |
| schestowitz | true that | Jun 20 23:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they are also more valuable | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | yes, make food more expensive and the population goes down | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's where the climate bill for the US came from | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | the UN | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | the UN wants this carbon credit nonsense to pass so that food becomes barely affordable | Jun 20 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | thus discouraging larger families | Jun 20 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that millions of people will starve to death due to this law means nothing to them | Jun 20 23:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] This Mac devotee is moving to Linux - http://bit.ly/abxKTz @dangillmor: "Apple is pushing me away" #ubuntu #linux | Jun 20 23:12 | |
| Techrights | Title: This Mac devotee is moving to Linux - Dan Gillmor - Salon.com .::. Size~: 67.24 KB | Jun 20 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | but it's what we get for letting foreign interests trump our internal politics | Jun 20 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that China is happy with the UN's plans that require them to do nothing at all, and let the West take on policies that kill millions | Jun 20 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Yay, the US is committing suicide so that we may continue polluting the living hell out of the Earth | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Obama Obama!! | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | the Chinese probably love him | Jun 20 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I liked how Bush pointed out that we export US-made stuff to China | Jun 20 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | his example was apples | Jun 20 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | sort of a "You forgot Poland" 2.0 | Jun 20 23:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4cmrMJul1g&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Jun 20 23:22 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfrog_County,_Nevada | Jun 20 23:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Bullfrog County, Nevada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 37.7 KB | Jun 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | internally, a state may partition itself however it sees fit, compliant to it's own constitution | Jun 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | so the Feds couldn't have stopped that | Jun 20 23:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/jun/10/obamas-right-wing-school-reform/ | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Nye County was pissed because the state government was trying to partition it into two counties to keep the flow of Federal grants going to the state and not the local county government | Jun 20 23:25 |
| Techrights | Title: Obamas Right-Wing School Reform | The New York Review of Books .::. Size~: 24.36 KB | Jun 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Fortunately enough, county governments have almost no real power anymore | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's a good thing because most county governments are controlled either by all far-leftists or all far right wingers | Jun 20 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | and if they had any real power like they used to, it would almost be like driving into another state every 20 miles or so | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is that it's another level of bureaucracy and hence, another opportunity for fraud and waste and nepotism | Jun 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | so, that has been one reason I've gone along with the Indiana state-level Republicans on every ballot initiative to castrate local government bit by bit | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | the less local government, the better, since all it has been doing is acting as another level of waste anyway | Jun 20 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did I mention the insane local government hierarchy in Indiana? | Jun 20 23:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Georgia to become tax-free zone for IT companies - [ru] http://bit.ly/crAA0D [uk] http://bit.ly/ajru7z #georgia #it | Jun 20 23:29 | |
| Techrights | Title: Èçäàíèå î âûñîêèõ òåõíîëîãèÿõ - CNews .::. Size~: 93.25 KB | Jun 20 23:30 |
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| DaemonFC | goes state>county>city/town>township | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | the township level is left over from the 1800s | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's gotten to where a town of 20,000 people might actually be 7 or 8 townships | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | complete with their own bureaucrats | Jun 20 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | so over the last several years, there have been ballot initiatives to alter this layout, fire the township bureaucrats, and transfer all their authority up to the city or county itself | Jun 20 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 20 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | why they're doing it office by office baffles me, but I support it every time another office comes up to be axed | Jun 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | the last victory was to get rid of all the Township tax assessors | Jun 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | over 1,000 of them | Jun 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | who turned around, sued the state, and more or less lost | Jun 20 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | the ruling says they get their salary for the remainder of the elected term, but that the office is still stricken | Jun 20 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:33 |
| schestowitz | This is a little morbid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhWNywhVetk | Jun 20 23:33 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I find it amusing that we still have local government layout that made sense about 200 years ago | Jun 20 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that we're just now getting rid of it, in pieces | Jun 20 23:34 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The axing of the Township assessor was one point of a multi-step plan to cut property taxes across the board | Jun 20 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | their salary that is no longer paid helped get the tax itself down | Jun 20 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | so now instead of 2% of the assessed value of the property (which may already be double what it would retail for), we now pay 1% | Jun 20 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | yay (kind of) | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | but to some extent, it's also a pea and shell game | Jun 20 23:36 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Updike gets most of that back by passing local tax increases | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | further vilifying himself | Jun 20 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | makes people go to him asking why the hell they're being asked to pay for all the shit we don't need to run the city with | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | which is a good thing | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: That's why there were no Christmas lights last year | Jun 20 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Updike turned around and vilified the state government for not taxing us and then giving him some of the money back to pin up Christmas lights | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | nobody bought it | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | but we did save "$50,000" by not stapling up our shrine to White Jesus | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 20 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | so in a very perverse way, the Republicans defeated themselves and White Jesus | Jun 20 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | and I was amused | Jun 20 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | because taxing the locals directly tends to make people understand that this shit isn't free | Jun 20 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 20 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | it really shows you what level the teabaggers are operating on, schestowitz | Jun 20 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | if the state takes it and funds the local White Jesus shrine, nobody asks who paid for it | Jun 20 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | if Updike says the White Jesus shrine can't go up unless local taxes go up $50,000, people axe the White Jesus shrine | Jun 20 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | of course the shrine to White Jesus is pretty political too | Jun 20 23:42 |
| MinceR | wild jesus appeared! | Jun 20 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | before you know it, they're letting the 4-5 black people in town put up Kwanzaa displays | Jun 20 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | and then there's a "God doesn't exist you fucks!" put up by the state's atheists | Jun 20 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | and the message gets very confusing | Jun 20 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | now White Jesus, Black Jesus, and No Jesus exist simultaneously | Jun 20 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | apparentlky | Jun 20 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | then before you know it, the one Jewish family in town complains and there's a Menorah | Jun 20 23:44 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: White Jesus, Black Jesus, No Jesus, and "Jesus was just this really nice guy, but not God's son" wish you Happy generic Holidays | Jun 20 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | $105.14 for my AT&T bill | Jun 20 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 20 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | then it redirects me between AT&T, SBC, Ameritech, and Bellsouth sites | Jun 20 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | because the phone company still has a 20 year old identity crisis | Jun 20 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | then Opera panics at all the redirects and warns me that I'm under attack | Jun 20 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if there is an IEtab for Opera | Jun 20 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | the fascists at the phone cartel think it's still 1999 | Jun 20 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Or are they communists? | Jun 20 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | propping up a government approved monopoly | Jun 20 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 20 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | they managed to slip in a $10 fee for throwing some crap channels overboard | Jun 20 23:51 |
| *DaemonFC beats MinceR over the head with Oxygen | Jun 20 23:51 | |
| *MinceR isn't there to hit | Jun 20 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm using Firefox only due to the fact that it supports a lot of nonstandard IE crap that Opera doesn't | Jun 20 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox could rip that out, but they enjoy the marketshare given to them by supporting the nonstandard IE crap | Jun 20 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | so they won't | Jun 20 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They "recommend" that I change from paying with debit to electronic checking account payments | Jun 20 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | but offer me no cost savings by doing so and would manage to skirt around the fraud protections that Visa offers me | Jun 20 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | nice | Jun 20 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | these people truly are evil | Jun 20 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | at least my car insurance company offers me a $4 a month bill credit for using an e-check instead | Jun 20 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | the phone company just pockets it and opens you up to fraud | Jun 20 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 20 23:58 |
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