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| cubezzz | Ångström | Jun 23 00:01 |
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| cubezzz | it does look interesting | Jun 23 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, airsoft guns look pretty real, some of them | Jun 23 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you take the orange cap off | Jun 23 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | might be a cheap way to bluff | Jun 23 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | or put it in the holster where nobody will see the damned orange cap | Jun 23 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 00:04 |
| cubezzz | no one has stock | Jun 23 00:04 |
| cubezzz | I wonder how much it costs | Jun 23 00:04 |
| *DaemonFC bundles SCO with bad mortgages and diversities and gives them a TARP bailout | Jun 23 00:05 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 00:05 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10003535.html | Jun 23 00:23 |
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| ender2070 | DaemonFC - do u think aids is man made? | Jun 23 00:26 |
| ender2070 | "CCR5 (“chemokine (C-C motif) receptor 5”), Chromosome 3. The delta 32 deletion of this gene appeared more than 5,000 ya in southern Finland and may have provided some protection against smallpox. Today, only a small percentage of Europeans have this deletion (1%, though 10% of European Jews have it), but it protects them from the AIDS virus (Zimmer, 2001, p. 222-225), though it increases their risk of illness from | Jun 23 00:27 |
| ender2070 | flaviviruses, such as West Nile virus; it is not found in Asians or Africans. (Smith, 1997; Stephens, 1998)." | Jun 23 00:27 |
| ender2070 | seems some people are immune to aids | Jun 23 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070 AIDS doesn't go after Jews because it knows it can't their money | Jun 23 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jun 23 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | silly ender2070 | Jun 23 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | *can't get | Jun 23 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: And yes, I know the Jews created HIV | Jun 23 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | it explains why it costs a fortune to treat and they have such high resistance | Jun 23 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 00:31 |
| ender2070 | i wasnt making that connection | Jun 23 00:32 |
| ender2070 | but black people have zero resistance to it | Jun 23 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think they have as much as anyone does | Jun 23 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | and they're a bunch of horndogs | Jun 23 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 00:33 |
| ender2070 | white people have some, asians have none | Jun 23 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: When you pierce your dick to look like a Christmas tree then don't use a condom, what do you think is going to happen? | Jun 23 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | (Africa) | Jun 23 00:33 |
| ender2070 | i dont know why scientists seperate jews from race studies either | Jun 23 00:33 |
| ender2070 | religion isn't in your dna | Jun 23 00:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] So I can buy more cpus? RT @weikim: Harvest time! RT @qikipedia: A ton of computer scrap contains more gold than 17 tons of gold-bearing ore | Jun 23 00:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Aq (@sil) writes eloquently about his frustrations about the mindset of some FOSS folks - http://is.gd/cZLBV - it can be wearing at times. | Jun 23 00:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Got currentcost, got cable (thanks @andysc & @lauracowen [and @tonywhitmore]) what now? | Jun 23 00:57 | |
| cubezzz | yes some people are immune to aids | Jun 23 01:01 |
| cubezzz | it's been known for years | Jun 23 01:01 |
| cubezzz | a lucky mutation | Jun 23 01:01 |
| cubezzz | some people's bodies don't produce bad cholesterol | Jun 23 01:02 |
| cubezzz | or produce it far less than normal | Jun 23 01:03 |
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| cubezzz | what is with linuxtoday.com recently? | Jun 23 01:07 |
| cubezzz | all these somewhat negative linux articles | Jun 23 01:07 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Jun 23 01:13 | |
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| yuhong | My first serious use of identi.ca: | Jun 23 01:37 |
| yuhong | http://identi.ca/yuhong/all | Jun 23 01:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Well, it turns out it is all @popey 's fault again. | Jun 23 01:40 | |
| yuhong | http://identi.ca/conversation/27514481 | Jun 23 01:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] @jonobacon Do I get a prize? Is it an iPad? | Jun 23 01:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @RobertsWeb: Fair Pay for Severed Fifth check out War on the intro to @JoomStew radio tomorrow at 20:00 UTC http://bit.ly/aQFfwM | Jun 23 02:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Wishing I could have gone to Ubuntu Hour San Francisco tonight at 6pm http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/178/detail/ had 2 work | Jun 23 03:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2: We had 5 attendees at our first Ubuntu Hour, and even had time for an 10.04 install on a MacBook :) | Jun 23 03:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Underwear? RT @nazroll: do you tuck in your tshirt into your jeans? | Jun 23 03:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Writing Severed Fifth lyrics. | Jun 23 03:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Earth Observatory looking at the oil spread from Deepwater Horizon http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=44375 | Jun 23 03:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] Skidmark or wedgie hazard? RT @Aisehman: I would advise against it RT @yoonkit: Underwear? RT @nazroll: tuck in your tshirt in your jeans? | Jun 23 03:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] What did Sushi A say to Imam B? RT @Aisehman: LOL RT @YouTiup: You mean Wahabi is NOT Japanese?!!? | Jun 23 04:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Community Leadership Summit 2010 is soon! http://is.gd/cZZk1 Join us in Portland! #cls | Jun 23 05:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://sourcecode.opera.com/gstreamer/ | Jun 23 06:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/more-comcast-kerfuffle-the-return-of-the-dns-hijacker-random-dropped-connections-no-hd-channels/#comment-1369 | Jun 23 06:20 |
| Techrights | Title: More Comcast kerfuffle; The return of the DNS hijacker; Random dropped connections; no HD channels « Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 54.95 KB | Jun 23 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | "(Or I suppose if you want to make it look less like vandalism, you could keep having lawnmower accidents until they get the hint. *grin*)" | Jun 23 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 23 06:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: For those who missed the Severed Fifth live videocast today, the recording is at http://soc.li/oI2mD2k #severedfifth | Jun 23 06:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] US IP Czar sucks up to Hollywood, sells the rest of us out http://tinyurl.com/35j82mp | Jun 23 06:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/burger-king-employee-clocks-out-then-clocks-customer.html | Jun 23 06:41 |
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| DaemonFC | hehehe | Jun 23 06:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] #severedfifth on MySpace: http://is.gd/cVZfi, ReverbNation: http://is.gd/d04pL, last.fm: http://is.gd/d04qC, Facebook: http://is.gd/d04ss | Jun 23 06:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #Makers is a finalist for the #CampbellAward! http://craphound.com/?p=2985 | Jun 23 06:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/verizon-sued-by-wisconsin-ag-for-billing-non-verizon-customers.html | Jun 23 06:50 |
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| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/ikea-flame-retardants.html | Jun 23 06:52 |
| Techrights | Title: IKEA Phasing Out Tris Flame Retardants From Furniture - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 54.56 KB | Jun 23 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | IKEA! | Jun 23 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | I still like what Daniel Tosh said about them | Jun 23 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | something like "Don't they have real wood in Europe?" | Jun 23 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://consumerist.com/2010/06/car-cannonballs-over-dfw-airport-tollbooth.html | Jun 23 06:57 |
| Techrights | Title: Drunk Driver Catapults Car Over Tollbooth - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 46.22 KB | Jun 23 06:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This sounds like a software patent in New Zealand, with a card involved: http://ur1.ca/0bha9 | Jun 23 07:00 | |
| Techrights | Title: BNZ patents new weapon in war against card scammers - Story - Business - 3 News .::. Size~: 95.93 KB | Jun 23 07:00 |
| ender2070 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336# | Jun 23 07:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[yoonkit] What is there to do in Kuantan? | Jun 23 07:19 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Decided to ditch Wells Fargo | Jun 23 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | they're bastards | Jun 23 07:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Great to see more and more Severed Fifth Street Team activity - http://soc.li/YKlFuJj #severedfifth | Jun 23 07:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | I decided to open an account with "Ally Bank" | Jun 23 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | my Wells Fargo checking account doesn't earn me any interest and my debit card doesn't work at half the stores in town | Jun 23 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 07:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If Google decided to acquire Automattic (WordPress), would anything be gained? Does WordPress.com already have Google Analytics (malware)? | Jun 23 07:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] I'm making my tweets permanent with http://BackupMyTweets.com (please retweet) | Jun 23 07:49 | |
| Techrights | Title: BackupMy.Net Home: Backup Your Online World .::. Size~: 5.4 KB | Jun 23 07:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] 2^5+2 | Jun 23 07:50 | |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfr-1fJMTbo | Jun 23 07:54 |
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| ender2070 | microwave weapons used in iraq | Jun 23 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | sweet | Jun 23 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | more power to them | Jun 23 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 07:55 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] microwave weapons were used in iraq http://2tu.us/2c3x | Jun 23 07:55 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.aolnews.com/tech/article/us-may-unleash-microwave-weapon-in-afghanistan/19520919?sms_ss=email | Jun 23 07:56 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: My landlord asked me why I'm endorsing my checks "For Deposit Only" when I pay my rent | Jun 23 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 07:58 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] microwave weapons to be used in Afghanistan? http://2tu.us/2c3y | Jun 23 08:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | Like he doesn't know | Jun 23 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | his former assistant ripped him off and I'm making sure that the checks I write to him have to be deposited into an account somewhere | Jun 23 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 08:01 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKn4IYpXK6g | Jun 23 08:04 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- I, Psychopath (Clip 1 of 5) .::. Size~: 92.41 KB | Jun 23 08:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] It seems like ZDNet decided to 'decorate' each page in the "Linux" and "UNIX" blogs with #Vista7 ads (see top of http://ur1.ca/0b4al ) | Jun 23 08:14 | |
| Techrights | Title: The big open source news opportunity | ZDNet .::. Size~: 99.83 KB | Jun 23 08:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open government data in Russia - http://bit.ly/ddfWv8 amazing: now Russia is getting the #ogov bug #transparency #russia | Jun 23 08:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Gosh, was my last status too cryptic? :) | Jun 23 08:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ooh. Confirmation mail that wifes iPhone4 has shipped. | Jun 23 08:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] http://is.gd/d0cVQ ouch. Hope this will cause some decent protest. | Jun 23 08:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] I think you must have left your ... oh, you know... heart in... RT @IamFunball: Dear San Francisco. I miss you. | Jun 23 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] I like interesting flights but not in the Chinese sense. | Jun 23 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Close call RT @jjmerelo: Richard Stallman, en portada de El Mundo http://ur1.ca/0bhut "Apple es más malévolo que Microsoft" | Jun 23 09:15 | |
| Techrights | Title: Richard Stallman, 'gurú' del software libre: 'Apple es más malévolo que Microsoft' | Andalucía-Málaga | elmundo.es .::. Size~: 44.91 KB | Jun 23 09:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] June 23, 1912: Computer Pioneer Alan Turing Born - http://bit.ly/a1CLWf let's hear it for the mathematicians #maths #turing | Jun 23 09:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got a later shift at work today...I'll be working with a group of people with the collective IQ of a ZX81 with 1023 bytes of faulty memory. | Jun 23 09:20 | |
| Techrights | Title: June 23, 1912: Computer Pioneer Alan Turing Born | This Day In Tech | Wired.com .::. Size~: 72 KB | Jun 23 09:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Talking of Turing... - http://bit.ly/aT0MYT "A Centenary Celebration of the Life and Work of Alan Turing": the *real* event of 2012 #turing | Jun 23 09:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Another hint for what 2^5+2 means to me ♺ @glynmoody: June 23, 1912: Computer Pioneer Alan Turing Born - http://bit.ly/a1CLWf | Jun 23 09:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Public Domain robbed by USA Congress #copyright ♺ @jwildeboer: http://is.gd/d0cVQ ouch. Hope this will cause some decent protest. | Jun 23 09:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] #needcoffee forces me to move towards kitchen. | Jun 23 09:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] iElectribe offers synthy goodness for the iPad - http://bit.ly/arfajB touchscreen/tablet combo creates a virtual but realistic interface | Jun 23 09:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] US Copyright Group Willing To Reveal The Tech It Uses To Identify File Sharers... Sort Of - http://bit.ly/aIvdUn the game goes on #copyright | Jun 23 09:50 | |
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| MinceR | o hai | Jun 23 09:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks contacts US government | BBC http://bit.ly/9gkIeX | Jun 23 10:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Scientists for open data and authors of Panton Principles named SPARC Innovators - http://bit.ly/d7xF9l good to see recognition #opendata | Jun 23 10:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #OrangeUK confirms 22 towers out/overloaded in central #London; haven't had reliable phone service for 2 weeks now; no known repair estimate | Jun 23 10:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Me to #OrangeUK: "Should I just get used to not having phone service this summer?" OrangeUK: "Really sorry." | Jun 23 10:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] New Zealand U-Turns, Will Grant Software Patents - http://bit.ly/bJj4rf scandalous backroom dealing (note presence of Microsoft and IBM) | Jun 23 10:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UKPMC Beta service moves into production - http://bit.ly/9jVjFW important resource #uk #pubmed | Jun 23 10:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Somehow I already expect a giant rant from Florian Mueller on this: http://is.gd/d0len | Jun 23 11:03 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYhj-jyQXU | Jun 23 11:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @jmcesteves Telecoms package portrait: RT @telecomix Internet is DYING in France! P2P, VoIP FORBIDDEN in SFR iPad contracts >>of course | Jun 23 11:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] No comment. Really. [german] http://is.gd/d0pvV | Jun 23 12:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] CAPTAIN LONG EARS: Calvin meets Tekkonkinkreet in moving kids' graphic novel http://tinyurl.com/266y7n7 | Jun 23 12:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Exodus: More Managers Escape the Company http://ur1.ca/0bjjk Novell vice president and also a director move on | Jun 23 12:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Assorted thoughts about Microsoft’s history as a copier and ripoff artist, not an innovator http://ur1.ca/0bjny #plurk #innovation | Jun 23 12:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates Still Works for Microsoft http://ur1.ca/0bjt8 Rebuttal to an article/post from Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols / @SJVN | Jun 23 13:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Judge who overturned drilling bans had shares in the oil industry - http://bit.ly/a9HNSK make him go for a swim in the Gulf as a penance | Jun 23 13:31 | |
| Techrights | Title: Judge who overturned drilling bans had shares in the oil industry | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 75.6 KB | Jun 23 13:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Real Debate About #OIN http://ur1.ca/0bk0v Groklaw and Müller carry on arguing #swpats #ibm #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 23 14:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Hail to the whistleblowers | Guardian http://bit.ly/bdLkDs | Jun 23 14:10 | |
| Techrights | Title: Hail to the whistleblowers | James Denselow | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 98.53 KB | Jun 23 14:10 |
| oiaohm | OIN is always been a hard question. | Jun 23 14:11 |
| oiaohm | We cannot go forward without without a plan for software patents existing. | Jun 23 14:11 |
| oiaohm | But we also need to be pushing for patent not to be a issue. | Jun 23 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Really infighting over it has to stop one way or the other. | Jun 23 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Really I would be happier of OIN plan was offense not defence. | Jun 23 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Ie Open Sources own patent troll. | Jun 23 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Where the conditions of patent licence is open sourcing. | Jun 23 14:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #Canada's Heritage Minister declares war on opponents of the Canadian #DMCA http://tinyurl.com/2fgqenk | Jun 23 14:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Hey, @mpjamesmoore -- when YOU'VE got a novel on the Cdn bestseller list then YOU can call ME a "copyright extremist" #poseurpolitician | Jun 23 14:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I'm a publisher, author & bookseller and unlike @mpjamesmoore, I actually read the responses in Canada's copyright consultation | Jun 23 14:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] When I earn money from copyright, it's in the form of royalties, not campaign contributions unlike @mpjamesmoore | Jun 23 14:44 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] if !mozilla don't deliver something drastically faster with !firefox 4, they're loosing me to chrome.. | Jun 23 14:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Can the CodePlex Foundation Free itself from Microsoft? - http://bit.ly/97Ce5I they say they're trying #codeplex #microsoft #opensource | Jun 23 15:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] New Zealand to copy EPO, and pass a law that does not exclude software patents, for decoration only: http://ur1.ca/0bkef | Jun 23 15:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mandriva saved by CEO - http://bit.ly/aFcLGD more lives than a cat, luckily... #mandriva #linux | Jun 23 15:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] NZ patent lawyer mentions that software patents are legal in Germany, thanks to the Microsoft FAT decision: http://ur1.ca/0bket | Jun 23 15:04 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] If #mozila don't deliver something drastically faster with #firefox 4, they're loosing me to chrome... and i realy don't want that! | Jun 23 15:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Big Multinationals will write software patent law in NZ: "our group will be working on developing this for submission" http://ur1.ca/0bkef | Jun 23 15:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Techdirt: New Zealand Politicians Convinced By Lobbyists To Bring Back Software Patents http://ur1.ca/0bkf7 | Jun 23 15:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Slashdot: New Zealand U-Turns, Will Grant Software Patents http://ur1.ca/0bkfc | Jun 23 15:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Four Economic Benchmarks We Need Now - http://bit.ly/9u4Nl2 plus a measure of negative externalities (pollution, etc.) #economics | Jun 23 15:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] US regulator guns for HP printer cartridge clones - http://bit.ly/9GeQkd more intellectual monopoly bullying #hp | Jun 23 15:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxCon 2010 Schedule Published, Virgin America to Talk About Its #Linux Use http://ur1.ca/0bkj3 http://ur1.ca/0bkj5 | Jun 23 15:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Will the BPI target Microsoft Bing? - http://bit.ly/9Va4VN good question: I doubt whether MS has a licence for every song available | Jun 23 15:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Over 200 Old Computers Converted to #GNU / #Linux , Sony Sued for Disallowing Linux http://ur1.ca/0bkkb http://ur1.ca/0bkkc | Jun 23 15:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] When Groklaw get it wrong: "Bergelt is highly respected in the FOSS community, as is OIN" http://ur1.ca/0bkl1 | Jun 23 15:33 | |
| Techrights | Title: Groklaw - Canonical, OIN's 1st Associate Member, Commits to Freedom of Action in Open Source .::. Size~: 65.38 KB | Jun 23 15:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Debate About Running #GNU #Linux Desktop as Though It's #Windows http://ur1.ca/0bklq http://ur1.ca/0bklr | Jun 23 15:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Writers Are Spinning #Dell 's Security Statement Positively, Exposing Microsoft's Likely Role http://ur1.ca/0bkm4 http://ur1.ca/0bkm5 | Jun 23 15:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Announcing the Portability Policy - http://bit.ly/ajv8jU "encourages standard, plain language policies describing how data can be moved" | Jun 23 15:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #EveryDesk , #Quickbooks #Linux Server http://ur1.ca/0bkmv http://ur1.ca/0bkmw | Jun 23 15:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Stefan Gustavson sceptical about Florian Muller: "My guess is that he is being paid handsomely to act the way he does" http://ur1.ca/0bkmx | Jun 23 15:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #GNU #Linux Distribution Comes to Major OEMs, Now Toshiba Too http://ur1.ca/0bkn5 http://ur1.ca/0bkn6 | Jun 23 15:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] reading @jamie_love on #sccr20, I cannot believe the succession of rich & powerful who stand up to spit in the face of the blind; disgusting | Jun 23 15:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Dear Youth from Delhi, Join Youth for ICT if you want to help School Student http://post.ly/kU4T | Jun 23 15:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] RT: @fossjobsdotin: [Full-time] Looking for Android Mobile Platform Trainer at Barani http://bit.ly/bXIBo5 #foss #jobs #india #andriod | Jun 23 15:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Applications Run Well on #GNU #Linux Too http://ur1.ca/0bko8 http://ur1.ca/0bko9 http://ur1.ca/0bkob | Jun 23 15:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] RT: @nsisodiya: Dear Youth from Delhi, Join Youth for ICT if you want to help School Student http://post.ly/kU4T #delhi | Jun 23 15:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Saved By New Investors http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/06/mandriva-saved-by-new-investor.html | Jun 23 15:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Demonstrated on New #Dell 14R http://ur1.ca/0bkuk http://ur1.ca/0bkul http://ur1.ca/0bkum | Jun 23 16:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: Why Microsoft can't innovate By @pgralla http://bit.ly/aGb0Kf | Jun 23 16:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Can the CodePlex Foundation Free itself from Microsoft? - http://bit.ly/97Ce5I they say they're trying | Jun 23 16:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @kirschner: "Gno” and “Gyes” campaigns - About positive #freesoftware campaigning http://is.gd/d0Edq #fsfe #fsf | Jun 23 16:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Applications for #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.10, a Word on the Spirit of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/0bkz9 http://ur1.ca/0bkza | Jun 23 16:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat 's Financial Results Impress http://ur1.ca/0bkzw http://ur1.ca/0bkzx http://ur1.ca/0bkzy http://ur1.ca/0bkzz | Jun 23 16:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Reaches New Highs at NYSE, Scores #Amdocs Win http://ur1.ca/0bl0q http://ur1.ca/0bl0r http://ur1.ca/0bl0s | Jun 23 16:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat in BusinessWeek 50, Top Place to Work http://ur1.ca/0bl11 http://ur1.ca/0bl13 http://ur1.ca/0bl14 http://ur1.ca/0bl15 | Jun 23 16:41 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] 1000 foot long transport moves 640 ton generator http://ur1.ca/0bl7j | Jun 23 17:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Features in #Firefox 4, #WebM Spreads http://ur1.ca/0blbm http://ur1.ca/0blbn http://ur1.ca/0blbo http://ur1.ca/0blbp | Jun 23 17:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SaaS Changes The Situation for Desktop #GNU 1Linux http://ur1.ca/0blc0 caveat: http://ur1.ca/0blc1 | Jun 23 17:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #VLC Suffers From AOL's Dislike of Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/0bld3 http://ur1.ca/0bld4 http://ur1.ca/0bld5 | Jun 23 17:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCBSD Gets Director of Community Development, #CUBRID Honoured http://ur1.ca/0blcj http://ur1.ca/0blck | Jun 23 17:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Open Source #Monitoring Business Heats up http://ur1.ca/0bldk http://ur1.ca/0bldl http://ur1.ca/0bldm http://ur1.ca/0bldn | Jun 23 17:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle Still Releases GlassFish, OpenOffice.org, Commends EU Digital Agenda http://ur1.ca/0bleg http://ur1.ca/0aw1n http://ur1.ca/0bleh | Jun 23 17:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle Still Releases GlassFish, OpenOffice.org, Commends EU DA http://ur1.ca/0bleg http://ur1.ca/0aw1n http://ur1.ca/0bleh | Jun 23 17:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: Delighted that my son decided to take my Ubuntu netbook on holiday to stay in touch... | Jun 23 17:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In an hour at 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern / 7pm UK / 8pm Europe I am doing my live videocast Q+A at http://is.gd/d0MLg #ubuntu | Jun 23 18:10 | |
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| *DaemonFC is having to use IE for a few minutes | Jun 23 18:14 | |
| *DaemonFC is OMGIG2P | Jun 23 18:14 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: apparently Mastercard debit cards let you make instant virtual cards | Jun 23 18:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @dneary: @ruiseabra Labels, perspectives, whatever. It's the same thing. The enemy of FS is not OS, it's proprietary software. | Jun 23 18:21 | |
| DaemonFC | with a limit on the balance :P | Jun 23 18:21 |
| *DaemonFC could have fun with that | Jun 23 18:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] American lawyers are free to mess with their own domestic laws http://www.patents4software.com/?cat=3 #swpatlobby | Jun 23 18:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU / #Linux-powered Machine Shown in “Jeopardy!” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20Computer-t.html | Jun 23 18:29 | |
| Techrights | Title: Smarter Than You Think - I.B.M.'s Supercomputer to Challenge 'Jeopardy!' Champions - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 72.67 KB | Jun 23 18:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] s/as explained/and explained/ | Jun 23 18:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 64-bit #Flash for #GNU #Linux to Return http://ur1.ca/0bly8 http://ur1.ca/0blyd http://ur1.ca/0blyf | Jun 23 18:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer he did rant; see comments | Jun 23 18:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Has New Promotional Labels, KDE 4.5 Glimpse, and Mint Incorporation http://ur1.ca/0bm2o http://ur1.ca/0bm2p http://ur1.ca/0bm2q | Jun 23 18:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] A #Canadian #creator's perspective on @MPJamesMoore's plan to give my #copyright to digital lock companies http://tinyurl.com/3akxkt2 | Jun 23 18:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Free/Libre #Games for #GNU #Linux, New Ones Coming http://ur1.ca/0bm2l http://ur1.ca/0bm2n http://ur1.ca/0bm2r | Jun 23 18:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/23/AR2010062300689.html | Jun 23 18:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I support McChrystal, not because I like him, but because anyone who tells Joe Biden to "Bite me" is at least "OK" in my book | Jun 23 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Biden is to the MPAA as Cheney was to Halliburton | Jun 23 18:44 |
| MinceR | you're easy to satisfy | Jun 23 18:48 |
| MinceR | (and that's not what she said.) | Jun 23 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | of course it isn't | Jun 23 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 18:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Krita ( #KDE ) on GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/0aymd http://ur1.ca/0bm7g | Jun 23 18:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-tax-breaks-20100623,0,5423478.story | Jun 23 18:56 |
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| DaemonFC | more unicorn meat spending | Jun 23 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | "Leaders target funding for unemployment benefits, Medicare and Medicaid ? but neither party has suggested trimming more than 60 tax breaks worth $32 billion to special interests." | Jun 23 18:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 8 #GNU #Linux Live CD/DVD, The Register Publishes Guide to Selecting One http://ur1.ca/0asly http://ur1.ca/0bm7h | Jun 23 18:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to stream my live #community and #ubuntu Q+A videcast at http://is.gd/d0MLg - come and us all and bring your questions! | Jun 23 19:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I noticed this DirecTV privacy policy amendment reads like an amendments bill in the government | Jun 23 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | instead of telling you what they did by sending you the entire thing at once, you get one page | Jun 23 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | that says "Line 38 in subsection (A) clause 2 is stricken, and replaced by......." | Jun 23 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | then at the end it tells you where to ask for a full copy of the policy :P | Jun 23 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | then they sent it out so it would get to everyone 2 days before the pay cycle | Jun 23 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | because it says your next payment constitutes acceptance of the new terms | Jun 23 19:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @zoobab do you reckon someone uses Florian to lobby? | Jun 23 19:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software patents are dirty scum: http://ur1.ca/0bm9v | Jun 23 19:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Projects to be avoided in FOSS world http://www.fossfind.com/tags/mono #mono #fossfind #foss | Jun 23 19:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] 160,000 Android Phones Sold Per Day - http://tcrn.ch/cHrt4V that's a run-rate of 60 million a year #android | Jun 23 19:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @webmink: Delighted that my son decided to take my Ubuntu netbook on holiday to stay in touch... | Jun 23 19:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | "There are various new subsystems in Silverlight 3 (e.g. pixel shaders, local messaging, the client http stack) which expose new and different attack vectors" | Jun 23 19:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no card yet? | Jun 23 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx | Jun 23 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | Not news | Jun 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nope, and while I'm waiting, I decided to open a new account with another bank | Jun 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | A week old | Jun 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | and switch everything over to that | Jun 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Rewarding the bankers | Jun 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | They love you | Jun 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | by the time I get my new Wells Fargo card, it should be just in time to shutdown all of my accounts with them | Jun 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | For the $700,000,000,000 for starters | Jun 23 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Well, the new bank has a lot of stuff that Wells Fargo doesn't | Jun 23 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo pays me no interest on my checking account for one | Jun 23 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | they don't refund other banks ATM fees | Jun 23 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | they charge me money to send checks | Jun 23 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | my Visa debit card from Wells Fargo doesn't work at all in some stores in town | Jun 23 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | The Visa debit card doesn't let me make virtual cards with spending limits, which I can delete later (which is kind of neat) | Jun 23 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo charges you $6 if you ask them for a paper statement for one of your accounts | Jun 23 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | they're the bank from hell | Jun 23 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | lots of little things | Jun 23 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: And the reason I had Wells Fargo for 8 years is because it was the closest bank to where I lived when I got my first paycheck from the job I had 8 years ago | Jun 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | and I never bothered to get rid of them | Jun 23 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | they recently demolished the branch that was about a quarter mile away, and now I have to drive across town to the big new branch to get cash | Jun 23 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'll be doing better with a bank that has no branches and just pays me back for ATM fees | Jun 23 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | there only has to be about 50 of the damned things in this town | Jun 23 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | and having my card work so I don't have to stop off for cash before going to the store would be nice | Jun 23 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya Projects to be avoided in FOSS world http://www.fossfind.com/tags/mono #mono #fossfind #foss #devnull #novell | Jun 23 19:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of Lucid Lynx Netbook Remix, Maverick Design, and "Unbuntu" [sic] http://ur1.ca/0bmdc http://ur1.ca/0bmde http://ur1.ca/0bmdf | Jun 23 19:28 | |
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| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Jun 23 19:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interview/Profile of Steve Kowalik (Launchpad), #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux on Television http://ur1.ca/0bmdd http://ur1.ca/0bmdg | Jun 23 19:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @HugoJRoy New Zealand Brings Software Patents back From Brink of Extinction http://ur1.ca/0bkef #swpat #fsfe #april #fsf #gnu | Jun 23 19:32 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Zealand Brings Software Patents back From Brink of Extinction « Patents4Software.com .::. Size~: 15.29 KB | Jun 23 19:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37461607#notice-37684918 "why promote proprietary software?" > | Jun 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz | @openuniverse | Jun 23 19:33 |
| Techrights | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.75 KB | Jun 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz | @mattl | Jun 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, if people are compelled to use it, they might as well use it on a platform that will introduce FS to them | Jun 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz | geez | Jun 23 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Can't even /mention/ nonfree s/w there... | Jun 23 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm on the phone with Wells Fargo to turn my checking account back into a "free" one | Jun 23 19:34 |
| schestowitz | free as in beer? | Jun 23 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | just in case my next direct deposit doesn't go there, I won't get hit with a fee for having the account | Jun 23 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | but if it does go there one more time, it's not a big deal and I can get it out before closing the account :) | Jun 23 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Wells Fargo is the biggest parasite ever | Jun 23 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | they never tell you what they're really doing to your account | Jun 23 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | or how they're making it really easy to screw up and owe them money | Jun 23 19:36 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* "I am delighted to inform you that you have been selected to receive a five-day trial subscription to Lexology, the free daily newsfeed service that summarises recent legal developments in key jurisdictions." | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Wow. I can....... like access another Web site!!!!!! | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | for 5 days. | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Bargain! | Jun 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | lexology... | Jun 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | you know what that sounds like | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | They sent me mail | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | They somehow know my name and address | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I never spoke to them | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | It's about swpats | Jun 23 19:37 |
| schestowitz | "@gamerchick02 @schestowitz #gsnash is working fine... just give it a chance." http://identi.ca/conversation/37482047#notice-37706742 | Jun 23 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Jun 23 19:38 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Wells Fargo likes to sucker you into agreeing to things you're not agreeing to | Jun 23 19:38 |
| schestowitz | That upsets them | Jun 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | and not tell you the entire story | Jun 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | like they'll ask if you want to enter a "free rewards program" on your debit card | Jun 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37485673#notice-37709589 ""This is the freebie version of corporate favourite Red Hat." may not be the most elegant description of !Fedora." | Jun 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | then come to find out there's a yearly fee on it if certain conditions aren't met | Jun 23 19:39 |
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| DaemonFC | and that it's impossible for you to spend enough in the rest of your lifetime to actualyl redeem points for anything | Jun 23 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I use CentOS and it's rock solid like Red Hat. Fedora is suitable for desktops rather... | Jun 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The "send in your cigarette points" catalogs have a better reward program than my bank | Jun 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I hit people up who do smoke for their points and send those in | Jun 23 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "Also a bit inaccurate. !Fedora is upstream where magic newness is consolidated & fixed for other distros, incl. RHEL." | Jun 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten some stuff that way | Jun 23 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have a tent and some sleeping bags and a jacket that say "Marlboro" on them | Jun 23 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | in a town where everyone smokes and nobody sends in their "points", you can rack up enough to send away for anything | Jun 23 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Grr... FSF hassle... "does that mean free software folk should advocate and advertise it though?" http://identi.ca/conversation/37490643#notice-37715613 "@mattl it's a tricky one when you try to convince friends to move to "Linux" and they insist on Flash" | Jun 23 19:42 |
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| schestowitz | Never mention Flash when the FSF police is around | Jun 23 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Adobe Trash | Jun 23 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If you get a billion points, they might even lend you one of the Senators they bought for a few hours | Jun 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: living in a tent yet? | Jun 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Prepared contingency? | Jun 23 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | to craft the legislation of your choice | Jun 23 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jun 23 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know why I have the damned thing | Jun 23 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've never even unboxed it | Jun 23 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They like sending out shirts and jackets, they make those "cheap" on their points system | Jun 23 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | they can't advertise on billboards, radio, magazines, or TV anymore | Jun 23 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | but they can send you a jacket to wear wherever you go that has their name on it | Jun 23 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's actually the tobacco companies that lobby for the laws against advertising tobacco | Jun 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | not sure if you noticed or not | Jun 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | if anybody has an advertising budget, everyone else has to match it | Jun 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | if nobody can advertise, nobody takes out ads | Jun 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has to spend anything on ads | Jun 23 19:46 |
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| DaemonFC | the law is essentially an agreement between the tobacco companies that none of them have to start an advertising war that costs hundreds of millions of dollars that could be kept as profit | Jun 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | ads don't cause kids to smoke anyway | Jun 23 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | parents who smoke cause their children to smoke | Jun 23 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | the tobacco companies know that children emulate whatever they are exposed to | Jun 23 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | they aren't stupid, the general public is | Jun 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-full-wwe-shows-come-to-youtube/ | Jun 23 19:49 |
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| DaemonFC | anyone with kids knows that kids emulate them, often at the worst times | Jun 23 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | often in embarrassing ways | Jun 23 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Need proof | Jun 23 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Smoking in films is almost banned too | Jun 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-playdom-raises-33-million-from-disneys-steamboat-ventures-others/ | Jun 23 19:51 |
| Techrights | Title: Playdom Raises $33 Million From Disneys Steamboat Ventures, Others| paidContent .::. Size~: 29.82 KB | Jun 23 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, smoking in films banned = the government doesn't want us to, so let's smoke | Jun 23 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's just the forbidden fruit marketing scheme | Jun 23 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | costs them nothing, makes their product seem more "rebellious" | Jun 23 19:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @amandanat: $MSFT "excited to talk about #Bing" but wil not take any questions at press conf | Jun 23 19:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Summit Opens http://ur1.ca/0bmhr http://ur1.ca/0bmhs http://ur1.ca/0bmht http://ur1.ca/0bmhu http://ur1.ca/0bmhw | Jun 23 19:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | people give themselves lung cancer and pay the government thousands more dollars in tax every year to rebel against the government | Jun 23 19:52 |
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| Techrights | Title: Small Business: How Red Hat Will Attack Microsoft Stronghold | MSPmentor Managed Services News & Blog .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Jun 23 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 19:52 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: At least monks setting themselves on fire don't pay the people they're rebelling against tens of thousands of dollars first | Jun 23 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 19:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Expands RH #GNU #Linux Partners Circle http://ur1.ca/0bmhv http://ur1.ca/0bmhx http://ur1.ca/0bmhy | Jun 23 19:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: Red Hat Focuses on Partnerships With Q1 Earnings Ahead — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 68.21 KB | Jun 23 19:53 |
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| DaemonFC | "You mean, you're dead, we don't have to pay you an old age pension, and you gave us $50,000 before you died? What a tragedy! Next!!!" | Jun 23 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's like that | Jun 23 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | the government desperately wants people to smoke | Jun 23 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they'll never ban it but make it look like they're banning it every year | Jun 23 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | the best way to rebel against the government is to not smoke and collect Social Security longer, having not paid thousands of dollars to the government in cigarette tax | Jun 23 19:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] É fantástico ver o Jorge Lacão defender um mecanismo fascizóide de espionagem dos cidadãos #chipespiaopramimnão Espero que PSD ñ virecasaca | Jun 23 19:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not opposed to banning cigarettes, I'm opposed to making it look like they're more illicit to get more people on them | Jun 23 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | which is what's going on | Jun 23 19:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Cidadãos: telefonem aos vossos deputados a solicitar a revogação do #chipespiao | Jun 23 19:58 | |
| schestowitz | Yuo, DaemonFC | Jun 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | *Yup | Jun 23 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be more comfortable with the government doing nothing than "Zomg! FDA bans ingredients that domestic cigarette companies don't use anyway!!!" | Jun 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: ohttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/software-patents-may-be-allowed-after-all | Jun 23 20:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Software patents may be allowed in New Zealand after all | Computerworld NZ .::. Size~: 42.96 KB | Jun 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | oops. http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/software-patents-may-be-allowed-after-all | Jun 23 20:00 |
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| DaemonFC | "Careful, they may go after Menthol next!!!" | Jun 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | all of a sudden it's "Get your damned big government hands off my cigarettes!" | Jun 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | *hack hack* | Jun 23 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's my choice to smoke | Jun 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | *choke cough wheeze* | Jun 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I can quit when I want to! | Jun 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37490643#notice-37715879 "maybe convincing them of the benefits of free software first, so they don't feel the need for flash?" | Jun 23 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | Argh,.. | Jun 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | *gasp* | Jun 23 20:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Não percebo este #PS, é lei de #censura (109/2009 - #cibercrime), é leis de espionagem de cidadãos (#chipespiao). Quem viu e quem vê, hein? | Jun 23 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I just don't want to.... *puff puff drag* | Jun 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | "i don't even worry about that, actually. i always tell ppl flash is dying &dangerous, & that's how i fight it. if they're runnig ONE non-free thing, despite that i told them why it's worth avoiding, i won't even argue past that- i don't have flash on any of my stuff" | Jun 23 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Novell and Microsoft use that kind of marketing | Jun 23 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | it lures in the other distributions like Ubuntu | Jun 23 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | "Novell has something that we can't have? We must have it!" | Jun 23 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | "We must look exactly like Novell!" | Jun 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu wants to emulate the bad behavior of an established corporate distro that looks "cooler" than it does but has "patent protection" | Jun 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's like exempting one child from punishment just so he can lure the others into doing things they will be called to account for later | Jun 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | I don't recommend #AdobeTrash to people. In this case, all that I did was mention that those who choose to use it are 'OK' on GNU/Linux | Jun 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see MoreInterop | Jun 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | With the harmony | Jun 23 20:04 |
| schestowitz | black, white, male, female, dancing in organde | Jun 23 20:05 |
| schestowitz | *orange | Jun 23 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and Novell = love and harmony. WHat's NOT to like? | Jun 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Anyone who wants to use .NET wants real .NET, not something second hand that isn't totalyl compatible | Jun 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | people who want to use OOXML formats want MS Office, not second hand odd-ons for OOo | Jun 23 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft knows companies don't want to buy second hand incompatible cheap look alikes | Jun 23 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's why there's no danger to Microsoft in Mono, or Moonlight, or the OOo OOXML plug-in | Jun 23 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Mono is the fake Rolex of .NET | Jun 23 20:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Runs Wall Street, Records for Red Hat Enterprise MRG http://ur1.ca/0bmre http://ur1.ca/0bmrf http://ur1.ca/0bmrg | Jun 23 20:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Inspires Education, Names Certified Engineers http://ur1.ca/0bmrc http://ur1.ca/0bmrd | Jun 23 20:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | the one that you buy to look cool then find out that the gears are plastic and the damned thing doesn't work so well once you own it | Jun 23 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's there to give you a taste of .NET | Jun 23 20:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] " #Mono is the fake Rolex of .NET:" -- @daemonFC | Jun 23 20:08 | |
| DaemonFC | so that once you know it, you go buy the expensive one | Jun 23 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | from the real dealer | Jun 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | SteveB? | Jun 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | He'll make you an offer you can't refuse | Jun 23 20:09 |
| MinceR | rolex is lame anyway | Jun 23 20:09 |
| MinceR | expensive chunks of metal that can hardly do anything at all | Jun 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Just remove the blood stains from the Rolex | Jun 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | And don't ask what happened to its previous owner | Jun 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | [java/sun] | Jun 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I've noticed Invicta makes some decent "expensive watch" clones | Jun 23 20:09 |
| MinceR | casio watches tend to do something for the money | Jun 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: even hypePhone can do more than a Rolex | Jun 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Rolex can't copy and paste dial position | Jun 23 20:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 20:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not hard to make something that looks pretty that doesn't cost a fortune | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | about the only difference is that my watch doesn't have diamonds and gold in it | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I swear people wear expensive watches just so they can get mugged | Jun 23 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's no practical reason to spend $3,000 on a watch | Jun 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | just that the mugger sees it and adds $3,000 he knows he can get for mugging you | Jun 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | and that there's probably more where that came from | Jun 23 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/22/0336240/At-Google-Youre-Old-and-Gray-At-40 | Jun 23 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: clocks fascinate me and watches too | Jun 23 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Geico sent me a theft prevention guide that said "Don't leave items in the car, even an empty shopping bag can entice a thief" | Jun 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Many people use them in the house and on the wrist | Jun 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I gave up a wristwatch when I got rid of a cellphone... around 2003 | Jun 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | if a thief is going to be enticed by an empty shopping bag, my car must be a tempting as any Mercedes | Jun 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Jun 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | People choose to use nostalgic items | Jun 23 20:13 |
| MinceR | the only reason i don't wear a watch is that my wrist doesn't really tolerate it | Jun 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Like gramophone | Jun 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes people get so rich that they can't help bringing some useless ancient items that do nothing useful | Jun 23 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | they're a conversation piece, I'm sure King Tut would have approved of using his coffin as a coffee table | Jun 23 20:14 |
| schestowitz | As if past some stage you earn prestige doing the very opposite from choosing the latest and greatest... same happens when people advocate opposites in homoeopathy | Jun 23 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | waste not want not | Jun 23 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Why would I want an ANALOGUE phone? It's like choosing to do spreadcheets in binary | Jun 23 20:14 |
| MinceR | homeopathy is just a big scam | Jun 23 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have a rotary phone actually | Jun 23 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | they do still work | Jun 23 20:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I can see Ghana beating Germany tonight and it wouldn't be an unfair result, cracking game though #wclive | Jun 23 20:15 | |
| schestowitz | [20:13] <MinceR> the only reason i don't wear a watch is that my wrist doesn't really tolerate it | Jun 23 20:15 |
| MinceR | all my spreadsheets are in binary :> | Jun 23 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Cause and effect reversed | Jun 23 20:15 |
| MinceR | bit reakky | Jun 23 20:15 |
| MinceR | not really | Jun 23 20:15 |
| schestowitz | You probably can't tolerate it cause your wrist is no longer used to it (neither is mine) | Jun 23 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You can hook up a caller ID box to the line then send a line out to your 80 year old rotary telephone | Jun 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 20:16 |
| MinceR | i used one regularly because i needed it and then i got off it because it sometimes felt bad | Jun 23 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | People who wear watches have different wrists depending on which one has the watch... and not just suntan difference | Jun 23 20:16 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what's the point of using rotary phones? | Jun 23 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Some Kenyans might not tolerate wearing shoes, either | Jun 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | there is none, but the phone system still recognizes pulse dialing | Jun 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | and modern cordless phones still let you emulate pulse dialing | Jun 23 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | why? who knows | Jun 23 20:16 |
| MinceR | yay for the phone system | Jun 23 20:16 |
| schestowitz | [20:15] <MinceR> all my spreadsheets are in binary :> | Jun 23 20:17 |
| MinceR | you could dial with the handset hook | Jun 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Or in transistors/magnets | Jun 23 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | you can actually | Jun 23 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | if you tap the handset hook fast enough | Jun 23 20:17 |
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| MinceR | i know | Jun 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | The point is, the abstraction changes to ease digestion... no need to identify three dials in a Babylonian system of base 60 | Jun 23 20:17 |
| MinceR | that's why i said what i said | Jun 23 20:17 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: fucking magnets, how do they work? | Jun 23 20:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm in favour of redoing times in decial | Jun 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | It would pay off | Jun 23 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | that's how you call anyone you want from the jail phone, MinceR | Jun 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jun 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | haven't you ever been arrested? | Jun 23 20:18 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i'm in favor of it too | Jun 23 20:18 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: nope | Jun 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Make a unit for time not by adjusting quartz to Earth revolution/24x60x60 | Jun 23 20:18 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: whom do they let you call from jail? | Jun 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Make it something like meter, where it relates to Earth's time in a decimal way | Jun 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The local cops only let you call a lawyer or a bondsman | Jun 23 20:18 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | they're obviously on the take | Jun 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | hang up and whack the handset hook to dial a family member | Jun 23 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jun 23 20:19 |
| schestowitz | One revolution=1000 'TOM' | Jun 23 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | then you pay them back the $500 instead of paying the bondsman more like $1500 | Jun 23 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | don't ask why I know this | Jun 23 20:19 |
| schestowitz | ~365200 TOMS to go around the sun | Jun 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Get rid of years | Jun 23 20:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Thanks for nothing, libcurl+libnss in #fedora 12 and 13 sigsegvs establishing an https socket. | Jun 23 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | Have centitoms and kilotoms | Jun 23 20:20 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @schestowitz: " #Mono is the fake Rolex of .NET:" -- @daemonFC | Jun 23 20:20 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Big oil, big phone, big cable. Don't let the FCC secretly sell out #NetNeutrality to lobbyists: http://freepr.es/bmqwUd | Jun 23 20:20 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Financial titans tell Wall Street your time ripping off the public is over. Join them: http://bit.ly/d8iLQ7 | Jun 23 20:20 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: why TOM? why not HARRY? or DICK? | Jun 23 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | Or "James" or "Fred" | Jun 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Then the state really fucks with you | Jun 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | you're out on bail for like a month before you can even go to court | Jun 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | and it's a felony to go to another state | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Joule, Newton, Kelvin (Calvin?)... | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Usually names, we just get use to them | Jun 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | bench warrant, flight to avoid prosecution | Jun 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | federal charges now | Jun 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | even if you were on bail for the lowest of misdemeanors | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "Fahrenheit is the temperature scale proposed in 1724 by, and named after, the German physicist Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (1686–1736)." | Jun 23 20:21 |
| Techrights | Title: Fahrenheit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 54.34 KB | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | For the US | Jun 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | They still don't use metrics | Jun 23 20:22 |
| *DaemonFC uses the Fahrenheit scale | Jun 23 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | Retarding the children by confusing them with two systems | Jun 23 20:22 |
| MinceR | two systems wouldn't retard them | Jun 23 20:22 |
| *DaemonFC can only convert in his head to Celsius when it gets to -40 degrees | Jun 23 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they would if they do science | Jun 23 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 20:22 |
| MinceR | but they don't really seem to care about SI :> | Jun 23 20:22 |
| schestowitz | They would be incompatibel | Jun 23 20:22 |
| schestowitz | NASA works with metric | Jun 23 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: That's only because the Metric system crashed that Mars probe | Jun 23 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | fucking JPL | Jun 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | grrrr | Jun 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCxDEB2t5Hc&feature=related | Jun 23 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/Mathmanprice | Jun 23 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | Good channel | Jun 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | until after 1998, NASA used US Customary units | Jun 23 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I watched a lot of it | Jun 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and they always worked fine | Jun 23 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | until JPL send them a course correction burn in metric | Jun 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | and they confused it with pounds of thrust | Jun 23 20:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Want to experience my website like you were at the World Cup? Easy: http://is.gd/d0VYD #comedy | Jun 23 20:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | and we left a billion dollar crater on Mars | Jun 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | thanks Europe, and your crappy system | Jun 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | :?P | Jun 23 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | US Customary Units alone would have landed the damned thing just as well as using Metric units alone would have | Jun 23 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that JPL was using a foreign measurement system crashed the probe | Jun 23 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | people like to blame the US system for that incident, but it always served us fine in the past (including the space program) | Jun 23 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see how the Metric system is any more "precise" | Jun 23 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | it just has different reference points | Jun 23 20:27 |
| MinceR | it's less arbitrary, afaik | Jun 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There you go with that catch all word | Jun 23 20:27 |
| MinceR | and more importantly, its units are better related with each other | Jun 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | arbitrary how? | Jun 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | where does it fail? | Jun 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | where does the Fahrenheit system break down where the Celsius system works? | Jun 23 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | and if you can tell me that, where does degrees F work better than degrees C | Jun 23 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | of course there probably are situations where that's true if you can point out situations where the first statement is | Jun 23 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | and if you can't, what's your point? | Jun 23 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 20:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: all SI units except the kg are defined in natural constants, afaik | Jun 23 20:28 |
| MinceR | actually the SI uses K, not C | Jun 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | and K has the advantage of being based on absolute zero temperature | Jun 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | not some random starting point | Jun 23 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | the weather channel says it's 80 degrees F out there right now | Jun 23 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I think in | Jun 23 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I know | Jun 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | the base points of the F scale are especially stupid | Jun 23 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I'll use | Jun 23 20:29 |
| MinceR | i could say they're F'ed up ;) | Jun 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't matter what the base points are on any measurement system | Jun 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're arbitrary | Jun 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | that much has been the basis of joke measurement units you know? | Jun 23 20:30 |
| MinceR | "The zero point is determined by placing the thermometer in brine: he used a mixture of ice, water, and ammonium chloride, a salt." | Jun 23 20:30 |
| MinceR | seriously? | Jun 23 20:30 |
| MinceR | this is non-arbitrary to you? | Jun 23 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | if I say the DamonFC degrees are 0 degrees water freezes, and a billion degrees water boils, and divide the difference to get incremental units | Jun 23 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | then I have a scale, with reference points | Jun 23 20:31 |
| MinceR | sounds like you've just invented the 100/billion °C unit | Jun 23 20:31 |
| MinceR | congratulations | Jun 23 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 23 20:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Hey, @mpjamesmoore inventing justifications for digital locks doesn't qualify as "creative labour" #ImACreatorNotAnExtremist | Jun 23 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | it's still not more practical than measuring your degrees of temperature variation differently | Jun 23 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, that's what I hate about the Celsius scale | Jun 23 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of difference between a degree C but not a degree F | Jun 23 20:32 |
| MinceR | (i wouldn't mind if they changed SI to define g as the base unit, not kg. having a prefix in it is silly.) | Jun 23 20:33 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: so? | Jun 23 20:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] E-Readers With #Linux Gets Cheaper http://ur1.ca/0bn81 http://ur1.ca/0bn82 http://ur1.ca/0bn85 http://ur1.ca/0bn87 | Jun 23 20:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't approximate by 10 degrees when I say how it feels in the room with C | Jun 23 20:33 |
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| DaemonFC | I could be describing the difference between a tropical rain forest and Antarctica it seems like | Jun 23 20:33 |
| MinceR | it's 2010, you don't have to approximate | Jun 23 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I hate it really | Jun 23 20:33 |
| MinceR | use a thermometer | Jun 23 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | someone says "How is it out there?" I can say "feels like 90" and if it was 100, I'm not too far off | Jun 23 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | both are really hot and uncomfortable | Jun 23 20:34 |
| MinceR | you could use yoctokelvins | Jun 23 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | F system makes a better scale to make a guess in | Jun 23 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | but it is accurate for scientific purposes too | Jun 23 20:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux on 200-Cores Single Chip, CodeSourcery Expands #GNU Software to More CPUs http://ur1.ca/0bn7x http://ur1.ca/0bn7z | Jun 23 20:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | there's too much of a variation in a degree Celsius for me to be comfortable with it | Jun 23 20:35 |
| schestowitz | It's what the world uses | Jun 23 20:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I thought @mpjamesmoore was going to "fight extremists on Twitter" - where is he? | Jun 23 20:36 | |
| schestowitz | World outside the US | Jun 23 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | and it's extremely awkward to convert to Fahrenheit without a calculator | Jun 23 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | so I ignore it | Jun 23 20:36 |
| schestowitz | use 1/2 | Jun 23 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | case closed | Jun 23 20:36 |
| schestowitz | -32 | Jun 23 20:36 |
| schestowitz | not 4/9 | Jun 23 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | 32 degrees and 212 degrees are easily remembered as the freezing and boiling points of water | Jun 23 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | 0 and 100 are not "better | Jun 23 20:37 |
| schestowitz | They are | Jun 23 20:37 |
| schestowitz | I'll tell you why | Jun 23 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Weight | Jun 23 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Metric system defines a litre to be 1 kg | Jun 23 20:37 |
| schestowitz | 10x10x10 | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | one gram of water is a squared centimeter | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Ounces are not as consistent across units of different physical properties | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | So it's hard for you to think | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | You encumber thought with weird units | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Like stone=14 lb (here) | Jun 23 20:38 |
| schestowitz | and t14 | Jun 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 14 | Jun 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | and then there's base 12 | Jun 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Couldn't get any worse when you add the different between UK pound and US pound/ounce | Jun 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | stone isn't even a measurement here | Jun 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Gallon vs Pint | Jun 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | just so you know | Jun 23 20:39 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jun 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the biggest problem with the Imperial/US measurement units is they were defined by statute | Jun 23 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | but the statute for the modern US measurement system is pegged against the Metric system I believe | Jun 23 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | so it's really just a different way of referencing metric units, with a different set of units that are just at precise because they're mapped anyway | Jun 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's a mess | Jun 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | but only because there are two systems | Jun 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | not because one or the other is more accurate | Jun 23 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | keeping them in sync is the real problem | Jun 23 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | if the system you're basing your measurements on changes, your system is thrown off too | Jun 23 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | so the only thing really really "wrong" with the US system is if the defined metric units change | Jun 23 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | so the laws pegging the units specify that they are pegged to the metric units they were pegged to at the time the pegging was done :O) | Jun 23 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | it all makes so much sense | Jun 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/business/23tarp.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | Jun 23 20:45 |
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| DaemonFC | the bailout money is being repaid with other bailout accounts | Jun 23 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | see GM | Jun 23 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's a sham designed to trick stupid investors | Jun 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/167146 "http://280.status.net/notice/167146" | Jun 23 20:47 |
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| DaemonFC | slip GM some money under the table, they hand it back | Jun 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | "it was a single, simple question, not an interrogation session- there's no doubt in my mind that you fight daily for the forces of "goodness and niceness," as max smart used to put it- i never accused/implicated you of anything flash-related" | Jun 23 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | have the newspapers tell a story about the second part | Jun 23 20:47 |
| schestowitz | That Flash mention got me a c**pload | Jun 23 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | investor confidence surges | Jun 23 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The biggest change in GM now from when the government seized them is that they are losing less money | Jun 23 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to take a lot longer than a year or so to untangle 60 years of mismanaged company | Jun 23 20:48 |
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| DaemonFC | GM did alright for a while just because it was sitting on a mound of cash it brought in during the years they were selling many cards and not paying out the retiree pensions yet | Jun 23 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | decent flow of business and some accounting tricks to make it look like it was doing a lot better | Jun 23 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Phones Made to Run #Linux - #HTC HD2 http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=17304 | Jun 23 20:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Freeing #Android / #Linux Phones by Force, Android to Get More Unified http://ur1.ca/0bo1j http://ur1.ca/0a68f | Jun 23 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | then the Wall Street investors took over from there with their damned speculative valuations | Jun 23 20:50 |
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| DaemonFC | and made GM look 10 times better than it looked like it was doing | Jun 23 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | which was twice as good as it actually was | Jun 23 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Typical of big companies ran by get rich and get out before the shit hits the fan management tactics | Jun 23 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 20:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/marten-mickos-says-open-source-doesnt-have-be "Don't you look at the article before you publish it? The guy pulling open the stuck door is copyrighted and appears not be licensed, else there wouldn't be a watermark on it. Check the EULA on the originating site ClipArtOf.com." | Jun 23 20:52 |
| Techrights | Title: Marten Mickos says open source doesn't have to be fully open | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 84.69 KB | Jun 23 20:52 |
| schestowitz | That's the first thing that caught my eye too | Jun 23 20:52 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people don't pay attention to licences | Jun 23 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Novell is going under now that the people on top have their money no matter what happens to the company | Jun 23 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | not unlike GM | Jun 23 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Gordon Geeko Inc. | Jun 23 20:54 |
| MinceR | novell going under is a Good Thing | Jun 23 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, GM is a tragedy | Jun 23 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | just because so many "little people" got burned by it | Jun 23 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think that pretty much everyone at Novell higher than the janitor had some say in what happened to them | Jun 23 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a difference between reluctantly going on with something unethical because it pays your bills | Jun 23 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | and writing about how much you love doing it with your free time (Miguel de Icaza) | Jun 23 20:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Telephony Gets More Free/Libre, #IBM Liberates Code http://ur1.ca/0bodj http://ur1.ca/0bodl | Jun 23 20:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | he has a job lined up at Microsoft for when Novell tanks | Jun 23 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise he wouldn't be gloating over how much he fucked over so many FOSS projects | Jun 23 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | even animals don't shit where they sleep | Jun 23 20:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Toshiba Has ARM-based #Linux http://ur1.ca/0bodg http://ur1.ca/0bodk http://ur1.ca/0bodo http://ur1.ca/0bodp | Jun 23 20:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Another way you can help WIKILEAKS: run a Tor server http://torproject.org/ | Jun 23 20:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/124367.html | Jun 23 21:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] After calling ppl who disagree "radical extremists," @mpjamesmoore calls for "constructive conversation" http://tinyurl.com/39yubzc | Jun 23 21:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Great Gulf Enclosure - http://bit.ly/cbCcNd destroying a vast commons #bp #spill #commons | Jun 23 21:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Spotify Finally Opens to Indie Bands - http://bit.ly/bAvG43 should have done this earlier #spotify #indie #music | Jun 23 21:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2010/06/binary-wallpaper.html | Jun 23 21:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Video Surfaces of Moore's "Radical Extremists" Comment - http://bit.ly/cxFtnf sick defence of taking away from the general public #canada | Jun 23 21:18 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1687274/mandriva-saved-ceo | Jun 23 21:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Who is attending these "secret" FCC net neutrality meetings? - http://bit.ly/bdxN19 & what have they got to hide? #fcc #netneutrality | Jun 23 21:20 | |
| Techrights | Title: Who is attending these "secret" FCC net neutrality meetings? .::. Size~: 32.98 KB | Jun 23 21:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @phuertas: El Presidente de la Junta de Extremadura en Twitter: @gfvara welcome!! | Jun 23 21:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Large Lists of Free/Open Source Software for Education, Small Businesses http://ur1.ca/0bpr2 http://ur1.ca/0bpr3 | Jun 23 21:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre #CMS #WordPress 3.0 Gets a Good Word http://ur1.ca/0bpr6 http://ur1.ca/0bpr8 | Jun 23 21:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] McCrystal falls on his sword. Petraeus buries the body | AP http://bit.ly/dCWJHT | Jun 23 21:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @einfeldt RT @phuertas: El Presidente de la Junta de Extremadura en Twitter: @gfvara welcome!! | Jun 23 21:37 | |
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| schestowitz | load average: 23.85, 9.62, 3.76 | Jun 23 21:38 |
| schestowitz | *rap | Jun 23 21:38 |
| schestowitz | tessier: ping | Jun 23 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I get a bus error | Jun 23 21:39 |
| *BNi has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Jun 23 21:41 | |
| *BNtwitter has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jun 23 21:42 | |
| tessier | ok | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | I got a bus error | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | could move between dirs | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | can't "ls" | Jun 23 21:43 |
| tessier | I just did something with the SAN but should not have affected it. Obviously did. | Jun 23 21:43 |
| tessier | I'll fix it. | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Thanks :-) | Jun 23 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Online banking sites hate Opera | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: anything but IE and sometimes Firefox | Jun 23 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Safari | Jun 23 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | They browser sniffed me and told me I couldn't log in | Jun 23 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | so I had to set a site pref Mask as Firefox | Jun 23 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | and it let me right in | Jun 23 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | and it all works fine | Jun 23 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I sent a site report to Opera about that | Jun 23 21:44 |
| tessier | Oops. I see what happened. | Jun 23 21:44 |
| tessier | That was dumb. | Jun 23 21:44 |
| tessier | Going to reboot. It'll be back in a moment... | Jun 23 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: For the longest time I had to tell Wells Fargo's site I was using IE | Jun 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | With ok, no problem | Jun 23 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | even though it all worked fine in Firefox and Opera | Jun 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | tessier: first reboot in 22 days | Jun 23 21:45 |
| schestowitz | tessier: first reboot in 122 days | Jun 23 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | anything except IE brought up a "get IE now for free" page | Jun 23 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft partnership, they actually had a Wells Fargo branded Internet Explorer | Jun 23 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | paying the bank to pimp IE | Jun 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I haven't rebooted my computer since 10.10 was released | Jun 23 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | and keep other browsers out | Jun 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | One upgrade=1 reboot :-) | Jun 23 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They dropped the IE requirement after I sent a site report to Opera about the issue | Jun 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Imagine a rebootless Linux upgrade | Jun 23 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Not just kernel | Jun 23 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | and then another email to Wells Fargo telling them that Opera was now spoofing as IE on their site anyway | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | ksplice | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they are afraid of foreign stuff | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | BUT...... | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Tell them sniffing won't work | Jun 23 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's actually two options, you can Mask as IE or Firefox, or you can ID as IE or Firefox | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The 'bad guys' will just set their rogue bot to pretend to be I | Jun 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | IE | Jun 23 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | ID as leaves Opera in the user agent | Jun 23 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | as a comment at the end | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Thus, they basically do the equivalent of ducking when a nuclear bomb falls in their house | Jun 23 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | in other words, when they check their site logs they'll see that Opera users are spoofing to get past their scripts | Jun 23 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | ideally anyway | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I also proof with my bank | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I pretend to be IE | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Self-fulfilling, eh? | Jun 23 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Later $bank says, "we don't support Opera cause nobody use it" :P | Jun 23 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | well, I don't feel like firing up IE to do my online banking | Jun 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes forget to switch back off IE spoofing | Jun 23 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I see that as kind of like saying you have to drive your Lexus through the high crime area with the doors unlocked and the windows down, and you can't go past 10 miles an hour | Jun 23 21:49 |
| schestowitz | So I fill the Web with fake IE traffic | Jun 23 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: IE 8 on XP doesn't support 256-bit encryption | Jun 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | Opera and Firefox do | Jun 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's another thing about my new bank | Jun 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | they use 256-bit AES if the browser supports it | Jun 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | IE on XP users won't get that | Jun 23 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo still uses 128-bit | Jun 23 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | on XP, there really is no way to do secure banking if you use IE | Jun 23 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | you're limited to 128-bit cipher no matter what version of IE you use | Jun 23 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft could have easily given XP users 256-bit AES cipher ability | Jun 23 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | but they kept it to Vista and 7 to make it look like they were more secure | Jun 23 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's definitely not an architectural problem | Jun 23 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: This bank I'm moving to now also has anti-spoofing features | Jun 23 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | like loading a custom picture and phrase if you're really on their login page | Jun 23 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was neat | Jun 23 21:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ask not what the bank can do for you | Jun 23 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | I put up a picture of Jabba and made the phase Fat CatBearPig | Jun 23 21:54 |
| tessier | Ok, back up. Sorry for the interruption. I killed the SAN. :( | Jun 23 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | what spoof site is going to know to do that? B-) | Jun 23 21:54 |
| tessier | I need to get this one reconfigured to be like all the rest and then that wouldn't have happened. It's on the list. | Jun 23 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | if Jabba doesn't come up with that phrase under him, I'm on the wrong site | Jun 23 21:55 |
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| Techrights | Hello World! | Jun 23 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was neat | Jun 23 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo has an easy to spoof login page | Jun 23 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC | probably one of the most spoofed actually | Jun 23 21:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] McCrystal falls on his sword. Petraeus buries the body | AP http://bit.ly/dCWJHT | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @einfeldt RT @phuertas: El Presidente de la Junta de Extremadura en Twitter: @gfvara welcome!! | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks McCrystal falls on his sword. Petraeus buries the body | AP http://bit.ly/dCWJHT #change #nohope | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] the more ppl @mpjamesmoore blocks, the smaller his world becomes. Same 4 copyright cartel he serves @adamundefined @doctorow | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @JesseBrown @kaplanmyth copyright lobby intro'd #thingsjimmyloves tag 2 support @mpjamesmoore , but citizens using it 2 protest. | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Tory budget hitting the poorest hardest? New faces, same "protect the rich" mindset. Remember this at the next election | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Huge Victory: Court Rules For YouTube Against Viacom - http://bit.ly/9psa11 fantastic, but let's get the appeal done before celebrating | Jun 23 21:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Server of techrights rebooting for the first time in 4 months (site back in a moment) | Jun 23 21:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] .@JesseBrown @kaplanmyth let's hope @mpjamesmoore autoblocks #thingsjimmyloves & let's hope it trends | Jun 23 21:55 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Huge Victory: Court Rules For YouTube Against Viacom | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.43 KB | Jun 23 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Techrights: thanks so much! | Jun 23 21:56 |
| schestowitz | * tessier | Jun 23 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | it also challenges me with one of my security questions and with my password | Jun 23 21:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @michaelgeist: @mpjamesmoore: they "put up a smiley, shiny, cute face on a disingenuous campaign 2 undermine rights" http://bit.ly/d1yvOQ | Jun 23 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | so the site login, to me anyway, seems very secure | Jun 23 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo does almost nothing to protect you | Jun 23 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Novell is with them | Jun 23 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | phishers only have to copy Well's Fargo's generic login page | Jun 23 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | and your user name is your social security number! | Jun 23 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Wells Fargo uses Solaris and Windows 2000/XP | Jun 23 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I've seen anyway | Jun 23 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Not for long | Jun 23 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've never been comfortable with their lax attitude towards security | Jun 23 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can also leave Windows when they replace Solaris with RHEL :-) | Jun 23 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's basically how to design a site that's a fraudster's paradise | Jun 23 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I get fake mails from Wells Fargo | Jun 23 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Usually telling me about my account there (which doesn't exist) | Jun 23 21:59 |
| schestowitz | I seem to have account in every bank based on my inbox | Jun 23 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | it takes almost no creativity to spoof their site, and you even get your victims to log in with their social security number | Jun 23 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | how cool is that? | Jun 23 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | too cool | Jun 23 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | bad guy cool fuel | Jun 23 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there are more safeguards | Jun 23 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 21:59 |
| schestowitz | They have ways... | Jun 23 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Scoring suspicion based on IPs and stuff | Jun 23 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My new bank is running Linux | Jun 23 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | on their main server anyway | Jun 23 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | so my new bank is practically a fortress designed to withstand a prolonged siege and Wells Fargo has a guy with a popgun asking you to log in with your SSN | Jun 23 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's ridiculous | Jun 23 22:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you have no social security | Jun 23 22:02 |
| schestowitz | It's a euphemism only | Jun 23 22:02 |
| schestowitz | When you pass out they bill you | Jun 23 22:02 |
| schestowitz | What kind of security is that? | Jun 23 22:02 |
| MinceR | in- | Jun 23 22:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Free/Libre Tools Partly Promote Web Standards-based http://ur1.ca/0bqva http://ur1.ca/0bqvg | Jun 23 22:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: Sencha Touch: HTML5 framework for mobile apps - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.11 KB | Jun 23 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Then they number you like cattle.... and call that "national, "security" | Jun 23 22:02 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I call it Socialized Insecurity | Jun 23 22:02 |
| schestowitz | PATRIOT it a real RIOT | Jun 23 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | the people at the Social Security office aren't amused when I say that | Jun 23 22:02 |
| MinceR | they put the 'riot' in 'patriot'? | Jun 23 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Many partriots cause riots | Jun 23 22:03 |
| schestowitz | The story of many nations is one of terrorists | Jun 23 22:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Discussion About Business Value of #FreeSoftware and #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0bqv7 http://ur1.ca/0az24 | Jun 23 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | Fighting for independence | Jun 23 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I also mail my tax return to the Infernal Revenue Service | Jun 23 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I get one of those American Flag stamps | Jun 23 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | put it on upside down | Jun 23 22:03 |
| schestowitz | They cause riots, then gain sovereignty | Jun 23 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm probably on a TERROR~1 list for mocking the government | Jun 23 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't care | Jun 23 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Mohammad Farmer | Jun 23 22:04 |
| schestowitz | That'll put you ont he list | Jun 23 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Apropos, I got mail from someone with that name | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Obama put me on the CIA fatwa list | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | no doubt | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | shoot to kill | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | he's just a citizen, he has no rights | Jun 23 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Ryan Farmer is the name for white supremacist who thinks Mexicans should be deported | Jun 23 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh wait, that's you | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a white supremacist | Jun 23 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think Illegal Italians should be deported | Jun 23 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | there | Jun 23 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Farmer supremacist | Jun 23 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | now that the elephant is out of the room.... | Jun 23 22:06 |
| schestowitz | What descent are you? | Jun 23 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | hell if I really care | Jun 23 22:06 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/391189/ | Jun 23 22:06 |
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| DaemonFC | some people 300 years ago did the nasty in the past-ey and here I am today | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | an American | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | how does anyone trace the nationality of their ancestors? | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | why do they care? | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | I don't | Jun 23 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe your granny was a viking :-) | Jun 23 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Irish-ish I think | Jun 23 22:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it can be checked based on your genome | Jun 23 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | now you know why I don't want to know the rest of the story | Jun 23 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Going centuries back | Jun 23 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | of course it can | Jun 23 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Obama and Dubya are 9th cousins | Jun 23 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | and Kerry too | Jun 23 22:08 |
| schestowitz | You can be on Montell | Jun 23 22:08 |
| schestowitz | "I ain't yo baby poppa!!" | Jun 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | yay for very distant incestous interracial action | Jun 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo! | Jun 23 22:09 |
| schestowitz | 2^9 is lots | Jun 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | yes, nobody sane would consider them related | Jun 23 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Even more for 4^9 | Jun 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | but all humans are related if you want to knit pick | Jun 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | you and I might be 9th cousins | Jun 23 22:10 |
| schestowitz | In some Arabic countries it can be 10^x | Jun 23 22:10 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: so you're a nationalist then? | Jun 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Kind of | Jun 23 22:10 |
| schestowitz | and socialist | Jun 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not genetic | Jun 23 22:10 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Jun 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think there is a master race | Jun 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 23 22:10 |
| schestowitz | master chimp | Jun 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | you say deport illegals and people call you a racist | Jun 23 22:11 |
| schestowitz | The one with the big ears | Jun 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | no, I don't think my DNA is superior to someone's from Mexico | Jun 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they're breaking the laws I have to follow | Jun 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | and getting away with it | Jun 23 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: illegals is a race??? | Jun 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's a reason to be upset | Jun 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: How would you feel if that law in Hungary somehow acted as a magnet and caused a tidal wave of immigration that saturated your job market | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes when you say basketball player in the US some people will assume you talk about black people | Jun 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | and depressed local wages? | Jun 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | including your standard of living | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | "Bankers" are sometimes assumed code work for "Jews" | Jun 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's selfishness, but it's natural | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | And so on | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | So the language becomes dodgy | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | You can't name phenomena | Jun 23 22:12 |
| schestowitz | It gets tied up to race stereotypes | Jun 23 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Then there are idiotic groups like ADL | Jun 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's not that I really care what happens to the United States, I care how what happens to the US affects me | Jun 23 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Hounding people for using words | Jun 23 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Political correctness is being monetised by some people | Jun 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | if the collapse of the Canadian system affects me negatively in any way, and I'm against it happening | Jun 23 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Like GPL violation | Jun 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a Canadian nationalist | Jun 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking after my own individual interest | Jun 23 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Selfish ape! | Jun 23 22:14 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 23 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | and the greater good is secondary to that | Jun 23 22:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i'd be surprised | Jun 23 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | if the two are related, I'm all for promoting the greater good | Jun 23 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Now go peel a banana :-) :-) | Jun 23 22:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: my job requires high training :> | Jun 23 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | You're probably the person I spoke to about my Dell then | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | ask the last guy who had the job | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | we're all expendable in the global meat grinder | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's a race to the bottom | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | and you're being prodded | Jun 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | just as much as any other human on Earth | Jun 23 22:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Is it me, or is it #KDE there in Leverage S03E02? :) | Jun 23 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC | what people won't tell you is that inequities are the result of confrontation, of violence, of war, etc. | Jun 23 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | human nature itself tells us to form groups to suppress those below us | Jun 23 22:17 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: replacing me with a less skilled person will bite them on the long run. | Jun 23 22:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Huge Victory: Court Rules For YouTube Against Viacom http://bit.ly/9psa11 fantastic but let's get appeal done bfr celebrating | Jun 23 22:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | the groups are arbitrary, nature may have made it easier with skin color | Jun 23 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | but the Chinese could have easily dominated the world too you know | Jun 23 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like they didn't have a chance | Jun 23 22:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 23 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | they got a second chance and blew it in modern times | Jun 23 22:18 |
| MinceR | so you are racist after all | Jun 23 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | no, I'm saying that skin color makes people realize that they're in a different group | Jun 23 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | the superiority crap comes later | Jun 23 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | the two aren't the same, but race makes it easier | Jun 23 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a visual aide | Jun 23 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's like making one group of people where blue shirts and the other people wear green shirts | Jun 23 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jun 23 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | *wear | Jun 23 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a facilitator that serves to make it easier to divide people | Jun 23 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | make them form teams | Jun 23 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | these Mexican groups think they are superior to me | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | they aren't | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | nobody calls them out | Jun 23 22:21 |
| schestowitz | They are | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | ever heard of La Raza | Jun 23 22:21 |
| schestowitz | To them | Jun 23 22:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody: Huge Victory: Court Rules For YouTube Against Viacom http://bit.ly/9psa11 fantastic but let's get appeal done bfr celebrating | Jun 23 22:21 | |
| schestowitz | Each person is self-centred/oriented | Jun 23 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | It's why people believe in souls and afterlife | Jun 23 22:21 |
| schestowitz | People are still dumb | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | plenty of Mexican racists | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | plenty of racist black people | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | nobody says shit about it | Jun 23 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | they get a free pass | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Go to each religion | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Each is a chosen one | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Show me one tribe that says it's inferior | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | The id won't let it | Jun 23 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 23 22:22 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: news flash, there are other ways to group people beside skin color | Jun 23 22:22 |
| MinceR | ways that are orthogonal to skin color | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | You know, some religions made it part of their doctrines that they are special | Jun 23 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | they all say they're superior, they all claim to have a monopoly on what happens to your soul | Jun 23 22:22 |
| MinceR | well, they are "special" | Jun 23 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Jews generally also 'thank' God for not making them a woman | Jun 23 22:23 |
| MinceR | you know what sense they're "special" in | Jun 23 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Imagine that | Jun 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's ridiculous to stand back and look at it as the big picture | Jun 23 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Chauvinism in the religion too, as though genders are races | Jun 23 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Apparently they forgot where they came from, literally (women) | Jun 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Language is probably the next step down from race | Jun 23 22:23 |
| MinceR | jews are the very paragon of tolerance, didn't you know that? :> | Jun 23 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll learn if there are no women left :-) | Jun 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | even if they learn your language, they still have their own accent | Jun 23 22:23 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: one person may know more than one languages. how do you deal with those? | Jun 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | so that's third | Jun 23 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | people don't trust people who are "different" | Jun 23 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | or seem like it | Jun 23 22:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I'm talking about biblical stuff | Jun 23 22:24 |
| MinceR | people are also stupid | Jun 23 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Not racial | Jun 23 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Many people inc. RMS call religions "brain-virus" | Jun 23 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's how the internal friend or foe system works | Jun 23 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | race, language, accent | Jun 23 22:24 |
| schestowitz | [22:24] <MinceR> people are also stupid | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Well, they wrote the bible | Jun 23 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | why do you think the Canadians get along with us so well | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | And then said some dude who can't be seen wrote it | Jun 23 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | most of them are white, speak English, and have about the same accent | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Weasels :-) | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they are also the same class | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | That's whyh | Jun 23 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's like "OK, you look and sound like me, you're honorary members of my team" | Jun 23 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Had they been poorer, it might change | Jun 23 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | oh, you look and sound like me and have money | Jun 23 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | Jun 23 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, money is the fourth rail | Jun 23 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Countries have conflicts with neighbours who are poorer, never mind genetic similiarities | Jun 23 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | a middle class white Canadian who speaks English would probably get very little resistance here | Jun 23 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | why is that? | Jun 23 22:26 |
| schestowitz | middle aged too | Jun 23 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's Canadians that are in the US illegally | Jun 23 22:27 |
| schestowitz | There's a saying in Britain about middle-aged, white males | Jun 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's not an issue | Jun 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | funny isn't that? | Jun 23 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Re discrimination | Jun 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | nobody looks out for those illegal Canadians | Jun 23 22:27 |
| schestowitz | They are least fortunate in a sense, which is ironic and reverse to intuition | Jun 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | cuase you don't have to worry about them mugging you | Jun 23 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | or stealing your job | Jun 23 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Many illegals come via Canada | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | The border | Jun 23 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | even if they do, we're on each other's honorary team member list | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Not Canadians though | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Seen the Frasier episode where Daphne is called illegal alien | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | When she enter from Canada | Jun 23 22:28 |
| schestowitz | *ters | Jun 23 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | heh, Canadian border is lax | Jun 23 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Not always | Jun 23 22:29 |
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| DaemonFC | you can drive through about 3 feet of median in many places | Jun 23 22:29 |
| schestowitz | See Peter Watts incident | Jun 23 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | and be in Canada in 2 seconds flat | Jun 23 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | with no border crossing | Jun 23 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | he should have just walked back into Canada from the many hundreds of miles of unmonitored unfenced area | Jun 23 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | don't even need a passport | Jun 23 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | sneaking into or out of Canada is not hard | Jun 23 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's one of those illegal things you do that won't cause an incident | Jun 23 22:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Greater #Transparency in the UK, Kenya http://ur1.ca/0brpy http://ur1.ca/0brpz http://ur1.ca/0brq0 | Jun 23 22:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of Culture-Sharing Strategies http://ur1.ca/0brpw http://ur1.ca/0brpx http://ur1.ca/0brq1 http://ur1.ca/0brq2 | Jun 23 22:31 | |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: the internal FoF system is instinctual and imprecise, and as such it needs to be overridden | Jun 23 22:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: such overrides are the way to civilization. | Jun 23 22:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Video Surfaces of @mpjamesmoore's "Radical Extremists" Comment http://bit.ly/cxFtnf | Jun 23 22:32 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So is the urge to have sex | Jun 23 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't stop anyone that gets the chance | Jun 23 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | provided that certain physical parameters are met | Jun 23 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | and there's consent | Jun 23 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes | Jun 23 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Nobody is worried about what's "right or wrong", everyone is concerned with how a situation can go badly for them | Jun 23 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | and that "might" stop them | Jun 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tildehash.com/?article=gpl-shirt | Jun 23 22:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Follow @no_mpjamesmoore if @mpjamesmoore blocked u. Not for tweets, but a list of ppl who Mr. Moore doesn't want to hear from. | Jun 23 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | people are really only strongly motivated to act based on what could happen to them | Jun 23 22:35 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: and they don't even think that through | Jun 23 22:35 |
| MinceR | and that's why this planet is such a shithole | Jun 23 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | groupthink | Jun 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | litter attracts litter | Jun 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 23 22:36 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oilhole | Jun 23 22:36 |
| schestowitz | BP found the G-spot | Jun 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Society is limited to the lowest common denominator inside their sphere of influence | Jun 23 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | litter attracts litter is one example | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | a good example | Jun 23 22:37 |
| schestowitz | BP: drilling Earth's dark anus under water | Jun 23 22:37 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: not everyone throws litter over litter | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | if the place is already trashed by someone, what's one more pepsi bottle? | Jun 23 22:37 |
| MinceR | so that theory fails | Jun 23 22:37 |
| MinceR | well, maybe you think like that | Jun 23 22:37 |
| MinceR | i don't | Jun 23 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | graffiti is another interesting thing | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | once any of it appears, more is on the way | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | and the crime rate goes up too | Jun 23 22:38 |
| MinceR | the PalmOS writing recognition? :> | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's a signal that the law in that area is not well enforced | Jun 23 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | people get more bold because they figure the police won't stop them anyway | Jun 23 22:39 |
| MinceR | another thing you're getting wrong | Jun 23 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | it fosters the mindset that you're more likely to get away with committing a crime there | Jun 23 22:39 |
| MinceR | well, who else could stop them if the state maintains a monopoly on violence? | Jun 23 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: and schestowitz wonders why I carry a gun most often | Jun 23 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | can you understand? | Jun 23 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | the police won't help me, then it's my problem | Jun 23 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 23 22:41 |
| MinceR | i can understand | Jun 23 22:41 |
| MinceR | and you already know that i can | Jun 23 22:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Access to the Scientific Journal Literature: Situation 2009 - http://bit.ly/cWqLmG "has a significant positive impact" (via @BoraZ) #oa | Jun 23 22:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Of course I hope I never have to shoot anyone | Jun 23 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's a visual warning more than anything | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | like MAD | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | or a snake coiling up and baring fangs | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | get the hell away from me or I have the potential to fuck up your whole day | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 23 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | if you live with savages, you have to be more of a savage than you would personally like to | Jun 23 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | if violence is the only thing that they respect, you have to appear to be violent | Jun 23 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | and the law of self defense is narrow enough that I know I better be sure that I'm under attack before shooting someone | Jun 23 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz likes the "walk up and shoot someone" caricature | Jun 23 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | because it makes him more "civilized" | Jun 23 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | not knowing that civility is a contrivance | Jun 23 22:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-06-21-018-35-OP-UB-AP-0000 "... is getting presented in a straight-forward, non-intimidating manner, on sites like Salon, rather than on the big "technology journalism" sites or in computing-oriented "portals" like ZDNet, PC Mag. et al..." | Jun 23 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe just not wanting to admit it | Jun 23 22:46 |
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| DaemonFC | maybe schestowitz thinks civility = superiority | Jun 23 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | maybe schestowitz is the master race | Jun 23 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz is a Nazi Superman!!! | Jun 23 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | zomg!!! | Jun 23 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | run!!! | Jun 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <DaemonFC> schestowitz likes the "walk up and shoot someone" caricature | Jun 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | I can follow some statistics | Jun 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Like gun crime stats from the US | Jun 23 22:47 |
| schestowitz | That proves my case better | Jun 23 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they pull a knife, I shoot them | Jun 23 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | they pull a gun, I hope I shoot them first | Jun 23 22:48 |
| schestowitz | And also, this shows that death penalty is not proven to be suppressant of crime | Jun 23 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | there's some gun stats | Jun 23 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | of course it's not | Jun 23 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | the liberals have watered it down to where it's next to impossible to get | Jun 23 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | and you're more likely to die of old age waiting for it | Jun 23 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC | the death sentence deters me from committing a crime that carries it | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QDC1KNavbE&feature=related | Jun 23 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know if it would motivate you or not | Jun 23 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | but that's your own problem | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | They can't get them down fast enough | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <DaemonFC> the death sentence deters me from committing a crime that carries it | Jun 23 22:49 |
| schestowitz | So provide proof | Jun 23 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | death sentence is a stronger deterrent than prison | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | which is already pretty strong to a rational person | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | if it was legal to rob banks, I'd go rob a bank | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | lots of them | Jun 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/dprjones | Jun 23 22:50 |
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| DaemonFC | but if you rob a bank, you spend 50 years in prison, no thanks | Jun 23 22:50 |
| schestowitz | He debunked some people re death sentence | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | the banks rob you and get rewarded | Jun 23 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's just how the law works | Jun 23 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | the golden rule | Jun 23 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | those with the gold make the rules | Jun 23 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I mock people who bring up the golden rule by saying that | Jun 23 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | "You mean the one where the people with gold make the rules?" | Jun 23 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | then they stare at you | Jun 23 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 23 22:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Two New Victories for #OpenData Movement http://ur1.ca/0bsmt http://ur1.ca/0bsmu | Jun 23 22:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenHardware in Action - #Robotics and #Tablets http://ur1.ca/0bsmx http://ur1.ca/0bsmz | Jun 23 22:52 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: the ILLUMINATI! ILLUMINATI!111111 | Jun 23 22:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Paper Industry is Waking Up to the Size of its Water Footprint - http://bit.ly/947D72 send in the electrons #water #paper | Jun 23 22:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Kenyatta University: Request for OER Materials - http://bit.ly/ayFdxY for postgraduate “Research Methodology” course #kenya #oer | Jun 23 23:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Giving it all away - http://bit.ly/cfHlHS "Give your content away, and you don't lose it - but you do get some great benefits" #sharing | Jun 23 23:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | trying to get my AT&T auto pay linked to my new bank account :P | Jun 23 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | the online system won't let me so I'm on the phone :P | Jun 23 23:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Anyhow...home now, weary weary weary work.... How was the England match? We lost yet? ;) ...don't worry, give it time... | Jun 23 23:59 | |
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