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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I predicted a 2 - 1 loss. Wrong I know, its just I fail to see where the "patriotic" people with flags are when the World Cup isnt on. | Jun 24 00:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] As soon as we are out of the tournament it will be all "broken Britain" again, Im sure. "Patriots"....got to love em...? ;) | Jun 24 00:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Good old Microsoft, it appears it's realized that people don't want a tagline on email....same old story though MS, too little too late. | Jun 24 00:07 | |
| schestowitz | WHat a farce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZog42kYuAI&NR=1 zoobab ^^ | Jun 24 00:09 |
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| Techrights | Title: YouTube- The Art of Fallacy - link between innovation and patent enforcement .::. Size~: 78.64 KB | Jun 24 00:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Can someone please confirm, are we still allowed to talk about the #Kin, or is that a tech #microsoft wants to distance itself from? #mvp | Jun 24 00:09 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't see how people are FUD-ing Medicare | Jun 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | in favor of private insurance | Jun 24 00:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-S2zJeYhr0&feature=related | Jun 24 00:10 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Hitler Denounces ACTA .::. Size~: 81.12 KB | Jun 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | how exactly do you FUD something that pays and doesn't argue, and gets you into the doctor and really negotiates the price down? | Jun 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | if they'd quit stealing from it to cover Iraq and Afghanistan, there really wouldn't be a problem | Jun 24 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans gave it a really inefficient prescription plan and that's not helping, but pretty much all of the problem is daylight theft | Jun 24 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | the damage to it is sabotage | Jun 24 00:11 |
| *DaemonFC wonders why Medicare has to pay for Viagra for a 90 year old man when a 20 year old can't get life saving surgery | Jun 24 00:13 | |
| DaemonFC | if you're over 65 they would pay for the surgery and the viagra | Jun 24 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 24 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | you know MinceR, I've always thought that Viagra mixed with a laxative would be the funniest practical joke you could play on someone | Jun 24 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | ex-lax already comes in chocolate bars you can bake into cookies | Jun 24 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | great to take to workplace parties | Jun 24 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | just remember to pretend to be one of the victims | Jun 24 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | it looks suspicious when everyone else is suffering from a massive dose of laxative and you're fine | Jun 24 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 24 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newser.com/story/92756/biggest-loser-finalist-it-gave-me-an-eating-disorder.html | Jun 24 00:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Biggest Loser Finalist Kai Hibbard Says the Brutal Regimen Gave Her an Eating Disorder .::. Size~: 231.93 KB | Jun 24 00:22 |
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| *DaemonFC rates the story Hilarious | Jun 24 00:23 | |
| *Atlas2070 is now known as ender2070 | Jun 24 00:23 | |
| DaemonFC | http://jezebel.com/5564997/bigger-loser-finalist-says-show-gave-her-an-eating-disorder | Jun 24 00:24 |
| Techrights | Title: Bigger Loser Finalist Says Show Gave Her An Eating Disorder .::. Size~: 80.33 KB | Jun 24 00:24 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | death camp for fatties | Jun 24 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | the picture looks like they got some results though | Jun 24 00:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can see that. | Jun 24 00:25 |
| ender2070 | theres a chinese internet addiction camp | Jun 24 00:26 |
| ender2070 | they organized an escape | Jun 24 00:26 |
| ender2070 | someone on slashdot suggested it might have been an achievement | Jun 24 00:27 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's real easy | Jun 24 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | someone figured out what the Esc button does | Jun 24 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | and the rest made him their leader | Jun 24 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: The Chinese should have made the camp a World of Warcraft add-on | Jun 24 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | then they would have stayed | Jun 24 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | noobs | Jun 24 00:28 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 00:28 |
| cubezzz | wow, 7 hour tennis match at wimbledon | Jun 24 00:32 |
| cubezzz | 59-59 in the 5th set | Jun 24 00:32 |
| cubezzz | crazy | Jun 24 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | "The Chinese government and NetEase, the licensee for World of Warcraft in China, have imposed a modification on Chinese versions of the game which places flesh on bare-boned skeletons and transforms dead character corpses into tidy graves." | Jun 24 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | so if I kill a bunch of people in the Chinese version, it's a tidy mass grave? | Jun 24 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 24 00:33 |
| cubezzz | sorry, it was over 10 hours in total, 7 hours just for the 5th set! | Jun 24 00:33 |
| ender2070 | the chinese version also reports you to the government if you play too long | Jun 24 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | Security researcher group Symantec released a report stating that a compromised World of Warcraft account was worth US$10 on the black market, compared to US$6 to US$12 for a compromised computer (correct as of March 2007).[86] | Jun 24 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | $10 real dollars? | Jun 24 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | why the hell would they want a video game account? | Jun 24 00:35 |
| ender2070 | security researcher group Symantec is WRONG | Jun 24 00:36 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | use your character to spam? | Jun 24 00:36 |
| ender2070 | people pay $200-300 for a character | Jun 24 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | why? | Jun 24 00:36 |
| ender2070 | because to get to the end of the game it takes months | Jun 24 00:36 |
| ender2070 | plus it takes months to get your character the equipment needed to play all the high end dungeons | Jun 24 00:37 |
| ender2070 | some people would rather pay someone else to do it | Jun 24 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | you act like you've done this | Jun 24 00:38 |
| ender2070 | my ex best friend plays wow | Jun 24 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | who plays a game for months? | Jun 24 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have that kind of patience | Jun 24 00:38 |
| ender2070 | wow is subscription based proprietary software | Jun 24 00:39 |
| ender2070 | they make more money if things take forever | Jun 24 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | if it takes me more than a week to kill everything and make it to the end, I'm mad | Jun 24 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | ]even if I'm not paying subscription fees | Jun 24 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the "Warden" module alone is enough that I'd never install it | Jun 24 00:39 |
| ender2070 | wow is a time sink | Jun 24 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, there's a fatso with some man titties that needs to stop playing the game long enough to go to real Walmart and buy some real blinds that lives across the street | Jun 24 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | the guy is disgusting | Jun 24 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | they should post his picture on a disclaimer before you play the game | Jun 24 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | warning that a man should not have man boobies and should definitely not be able to use them as a drink holder for a 24 ounce beer can | Jun 24 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | and that this could happen to you if you click accept | Jun 24 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: he's going bald too | Jun 24 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | in the game he's probably playing some elf/nymph hybrid | Jun 24 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: That's the problem with those games, you never know what's really behind that other characters keyboard | Jun 24 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe the problem is that you know exactly what's sitting behind the keyboard | Jun 24 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x5132443 | Jun 24 00:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Mom Charged With Helping Daughter Bake Ex-Lax Cookies For Teacher - Democratic Underground .::. Size~: 46.51 KB | Jun 24 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 00:49 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Xrender pipeline now in JDK7 http://ur1.ca/0bxja !java | Jun 24 00:50 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] @ender2070 I dunno man, I'd like to see Clang get better than GCC | Jun 24 00:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, someone talking about spilling coffee on your laptop | Jun 24 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I did that with the Compaq laptop I have | Jun 24 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | it shorted out and the screen went black | Jun 24 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I turned it over and poured all the coffee out of it and went over it with a hair dryer and it came back on | Jun 24 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | too evil to die apparently | Jun 24 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9407759 | Jun 24 00:54 |
| Techrights | Title: Folks in the UK - what is a "chav"? - Democratic Underground .::. Size~: 72.46 KB | Jun 24 00:54 |
| *DaemonFC pisses himself | Jun 24 00:54 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] @diablod3 GCC is more than C though, I'm looking for Go support | Jun 24 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | "may refer to the Romany word for youths" | Jun 24 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm taking it that it's an allusion to teenage pick pockets or something then? | Jun 24 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | petty criminal teenagers? | Jun 24 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | pick pockets, novel European concept | Jun 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | they should be more like American criminals and just ask you for your money | Jun 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | (at knife/gunpoint) | Jun 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | from my understanding, the only thing that the UK accomplished in making it hard to get a licensed handgun, is a surge in crimes involving knives and sawed off shotguns | Jun 24 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather get shot by someone packing a handgun than a sawed off shotgun, personally, if I had to be shot with something | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt doctors can sew both halves of you back together if you get hit with the sawed off shotgun | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | that's just my guess | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | sawed of shotguns are illegal in the UK? | Jun 24 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | of course, they're illegal here | Jun 24 01:00 |
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| DaemonFC | that's the annoying thing about criminals, they tend to be very inconsiderate of laws | Jun 24 01:01 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: got a link about that game? | Jun 24 01:01 |
| schestowitz | That's amazing | Jun 24 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | making something illegal in and of itself does not deter people who have no concept of consequences | Jun 24 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, you're just giving those people a monopoly on handguns when you make handguns illegal | Jun 24 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | you're really telling me that a handgun ban would work in a country of 310 million people which shares a 2,500 mile border with Mexico? | Jun 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | tessier: are you around? | Jun 24 01:03 |
| *DaemonFC hates gun control "advocates" | Jun 24 01:03 | |
| DaemonFC | someone really needs to just shoot them all | Jun 24 01:03 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Jun 24 01:03 |
| cubezzz | just a sec | Jun 24 01:03 |
| oiaohm | plastic explosive bullets would work. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:03 |
| oiaohm | Ie pull trigger gun explodes in hand. | Jun 24 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Every single weapon I own complies with the laws, federal, state, and local | Jun 24 01:04 |
| cubezzz | http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2010/06/Wimbledon/Wimbledon-Diary-Day-Three.aspx | Jun 24 01:04 |
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| DaemonFC | if they do pass the bill to illegalize ASP batons, I'll turn mine in | Jun 24 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | they were talking about that at one point | Jun 24 01:04 |
| oiaohm | What us is a gun without ammo. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:04 |
| oiaohm | us/use | Jun 24 01:05 |
| cubezzz | - Longest Known Match In History (10 hours, 163 games) | Jun 24 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: The ATF tends to concentrate on people who "transport or sell" banned weaponry, technically like any federal agency, their jurisdiction doesn't start until you cross state lines | Jun 24 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | in reality the courts have said they can get involved on the theory that you "might" cross state lines | Jun 24 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | the courts have pretty much ruled that the feds can mess with intra-state commerce and law enforcement, even if that state doesn't want them there | Jun 24 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's why they can bust marijuana pharmacies that are legal in California | Jun 24 01:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tennis matches can take longer than cricket now. http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2010/06/Wimbledon/Wimbledon-Diary-Day-Three.aspx | Jun 24 01:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] A weak case against WebM http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/06/mpeg-las-avch264-licensing-terms.html | Jun 24 01:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: FOSS Patents: MPEG LA's AVC/H.264 licensing terms: further analysis .::. Size~: 54.36 KB | Jun 24 01:08 |
| oiaohm | Our gun laws come into play without transport. Owning/having weapon without licence is not allowed. But the stupid bit is you can have as much ammo as you like without a licence. | Jun 24 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | they can just say "in theory, some of that pot could end up in another state" | Jun 24 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | and that grants themselves to become involved where they aren't welcome | Jun 24 01:08 |
| tessier | httpd needed restarting, not sure if that was independent of the earlier issue or not. | Jun 24 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: In Indiana, you don't need any kind of permit to own or possess a firearm | Jun 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | of any kind | Jun 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | where you get in trouble is if you try to take it with you in the car | Jun 24 01:09 |
| oiaohm | That is the way it was here. | Jun 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | or conceal it | Jun 24 01:09 |
| oiaohm | To be correct we use to be able to conceal it as well. | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | all Indiana permits are also concealed carry permits | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | and technically, the US constitution states that every other state has to respect our firearm licenses | Jun 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | as written | Jun 24 01:10 |
| oiaohm | These days a gun in a car that is not with police or mil or secuirty ie people with concealed carry permits has to be transported in a locked case. | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | see the Full Faith and Credit Clause | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | just as, technically, all states must recognize same-sex marriage certificates issued by another state | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they don't | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's unconstitutional | Jun 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | tessier: ah, I ought to have tried it. There was a traffic surge (16+ AVERAGE LOAD :-) ) just before it happened | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | there's a federal statute that says they don't, but that statute is unconstitutional | Jun 24 01:11 |
| schestowitz | So I thought it was similar to the SAN incident | Jun 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: interestingly enough, the federal lawsuit to repeal California's same-sex marriage ban could strike down the federal DOMA statute | Jun 24 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Note the locked case bit even applies to air rifles. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | and it would provide case precedent for gun licenses as well | Jun 24 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | the NRA should support the repeal of the same-sex marriage ban | Jun 24 01:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes a few people have been done here for transporting a air rifles not in a locked case. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | because it would also establish a precedent for their view that every state must respect another state's gun licenses | Jun 24 01:13 |
| oiaohm | Here states have there own laws. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| oiaohm | Other states don't have to respect them. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| oiaohm | But fed law has to be respected by all. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's why you can get married in Indiana and get a divorce in Oregon | Jun 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 01:14 |
| oiaohm | The funny thing is most restricts on porn are state here. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | as an example | Jun 24 01:14 |
| oiaohm | But the ACT ie where our goverment is. Does not have very much restriction on porn at all. | Jun 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | you move to Oregon, your Indiana license would be legal there | Jun 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | but once you're a citizen of Oregon, their courts have the power to dissolve the license | Jun 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | and that's how all cases of inter-state contract and license laws "should" work | Jun 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | the system has been destroyed and selectively enforced by, mostly, far right wingers | Jun 24 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Really yours is a mess. | Jun 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | you know, the ones that say the feds should get lost? :) | Jun 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | same people giving the feds the power to trample people with | Jun 24 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Our Fed basically lost. | Jun 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: The United States started out as a confederacy | Jun 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | the central government was weaker than the states | Jun 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | federal laws didn't necessarily apply if the state passed a law that overruled it | Jun 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | we now have the opposite | Jun 24 01:17 |
| oiaohm | Australia is a fedoration | Jun 24 01:17 |
| oiaohm | Of states | Jun 24 01:17 |
| oiaohm | But with states with most of the powers. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| cubezzz | we have a Dominion | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | well, these far right wingers want to have their cake and eat it too | Jun 24 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Recent years Australia has been trying to line the rules up. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| oiaohm | Like it has been stupid we have had different road rules in different states. | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | they want the feds to crack down on marijuana growers, but stay away from their guns | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't have both | Jun 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | but they're too dumb to realize that | Jun 24 01:19 |
| cubezzz | why not just make the pot legal? | Jun 24 01:19 |
| cubezzz | seems simpler | Jun 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: pot is legal in some states | Jun 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | that does not protect you from the feds | Jun 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | only the state police | Jun 24 01:19 |
| cubezzz | how does that work? | Jun 24 01:19 |
| oiaohm | It does not cubezzz | Jun 24 01:19 |
| cubezzz | you still get in trouble I suppose | Jun 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | the state law says it's legal and the cops don't have to enforce the federal law | Jun 24 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | but the federal police agencies can still come in and enforce the federal law | Jun 24 01:20 |
| oiaohm | Here is a bit different. We have no federal courts. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | so even though the state of California won't do anything to you, the DEA can still come in and arrest you | Jun 24 01:20 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] @ender2070 Why would anyone care about another boutique language? | Jun 24 01:20 | |
| DaemonFC | even though you didn't break a California law | Jun 24 01:20 |
| oiaohm | So our feds have to take there cases threw the state courts. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:20 |
| oiaohm | So state law is dominate. | Jun 24 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: federal courts here have the power to overturn any state law that contradicts a federal law | Jun 24 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | or the federal constitution | Jun 24 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have the power to order a state to enforce a federal law though | Jun 24 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | or at least, haven't until now | Jun 24 01:22 |
| oiaohm | States here cannot create laws in breach of fed if they do it must go to the meeting of states. | Jun 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | that's what the states suing over the healthcare law is all about | Jun 24 01:22 |
| oiaohm | To force alteration to fed | Jun 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | whether the feds can make states enforce federal laws | Jun 24 01:22 |
| oiaohm | I guess you don't have that process. | Jun 24 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | if the states lose, and the healthcare law is mandatory | Jun 24 01:22 |
| oiaohm | If all the states here vote the same way they can override fed. | Jun 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | it also means the feds could order California police to enforce federal marijuana laws | Jun 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | and California courts would have to prosecute the cases | Jun 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | so no matter how this goes, it's bad news for someone | Jun 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 01:23 |
| oiaohm | By the sounds of it you system is broke. | Jun 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: The states here can force a change to the US constitution without the US government's approval | Jun 24 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | by calling a convention to ratify it | Jun 24 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | never been done | Jun 24 01:24 |
| oiaohm | With or without vote of the peeple. | Jun 24 01:24 |
| ender2070 | his system is broke? | Jun 24 01:24 |
| ender2070 | thats how it works in every other country | Jun 24 01:24 |
| oiaohm | Ie USA system. | Jun 24 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | requirements are 3/4ths of the states pass the amendment and it becomes constitutional law | Jun 24 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | even without the feds being able to stop it | Jun 24 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | so in theory the states (38 of them) could agree to dissolve the US government totally | Jun 24 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 01:25 |
| oiaohm | Ours any change to the constitution has to go to the public. DaemonFC | Jun 24 01:25 |
| oiaohm | State or fed. | Jun 24 01:25 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] @diablod3 it's hardly a boutique language | Jun 24 01:25 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] @ender2070 Its not popular, and most likely never will be. It offers nothing I don't get from other languages. | Jun 24 01:25 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Now you're talking ballot initiative | Jun 24 01:26 |
| oiaohm | And techically anyone can raise it if they have enough support. | Jun 24 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | every state can alter its own constitution as it sees fit | Jun 24 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | some states don't have a ballot option | Jun 24 01:26 |
| oiaohm | Here its every state. | Jun 24 01:26 |
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| oiaohm | Its part of the fed constitution. | Jun 24 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | in Indiana, the House and Senate pass the amendment with 2/3rds majority, the governor signs it, then it's on the ballot in the next election | Jun 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | where a simple majority of the public has to agree | Jun 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's difficult to amend our constitution, but it's kept some really lousy amendments from seeing the light of day | Jun 24 01:27 |
| oiaohm | The funny thing in Australia is almost no amendments have passed the public. | Jun 24 01:27 |
| ender2070 | Australia lol | Jun 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's the reason there's no constitutional same-sex marriage ban in Indiana | Jun 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it always dies in the Senate | Jun 24 01:28 |
| ender2070 | all your politicians have sworn allegiance to the queen | Jun 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | (Mostly Republicans) | Jun 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | the House is mostly Democrats | Jun 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | so the Senate passes it every year and the House refuses to hear it | Jun 24 01:28 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: how much power does the queen have here. Basically none. | Jun 24 01:29 |
| ender2070 | you keep thinking that | Jun 24 01:29 |
| oiaohm | And we have never worked out how to replace the Queen role. | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's governor can veto a bill, but the beto can be overridden by a simple majority vote | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | which is how it got to him in the beginning | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | *veto | Jun 24 01:29 |
| oiaohm | The only power the queen has is dismiss the parlement. ender2070 | Jun 24 01:29 |
| ender2070 | in Canada, they can veto who we vote in as PM | Jun 24 01:29 |
| oiaohm | And force elections. ender2070 | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | so the veto power is ineffective unless it's 10 days from a Assembly recess | Jun 24 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | then he can veto it after they recess | Jun 24 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | and they can't reverse him | Jun 24 01:30 |
| ender2070 | the GG can put someone else in power | Jun 24 01:30 |
| oiaohm | No power to call for war no power to call for anything ender2070. We took that away from the queen after world war 1. | Jun 24 01:30 |
| ender2070 | they did once in the 80s | Jun 24 01:30 |
| ender2070 | um | Jun 24 01:30 |
| ender2070 | Canada's military is under direct command of the Queen | Jun 24 01:30 |
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| DaemonFC | really? | Jun 24 01:31 |
| oiaohm | GG put the other side in power because the ruling side would not hold ellections as asked. ender2070 | Jun 24 01:31 |
| ender2070 | The governor general is in charge of it = queen | Jun 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | the Queen is your Commander-In-Chief? | Jun 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's bogus | Jun 24 01:31 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jun 24 01:31 |
| ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief_of_the_Canadian_Forces | Jun 24 01:31 |
| Techrights | Title: Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 93.46 KB | Jun 24 01:31 |
| oiaohm | GG can only put another party in power if the current rulling will not follow direction to disolve and go to vote. ender2070 | Jun 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | the military belongs under a civilian commander | Jun 24 01:31 |
| ender2070 | The Constitution Act, 1867, states that "The Command-in-Chief of the Land and Naval Militia, and of all Naval and Military Forces, of and in Canada, is hereby declared to continue to be vested in the Queen." | Jun 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | not a foreign royal | Jun 24 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | don't Canadians agree with that? | Jun 24 01:31 |
| ender2070 | not even trudeu wanted to stop it | Jun 24 01:32 |
| ender2070 | and he was aparrently 'anti monarchy' | Jun 24 01:32 |
| oiaohm | Ie GG power only extentend to making soure the vote happens and that ellection run right. | Jun 24 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | so in theory the Queen controls your military unilaterally | Jun 24 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | but not the rest of the government? | Jun 24 01:32 |
| ender2070 | she controls the government | Jun 24 01:32 |
| oiaohm | GG is just the queen respesentive with no more power than the queen. Techically GG cannot act without talking to queen and both have to agree. | Jun 24 01:33 |
| ender2070 | in the 80s they put liberals in control of government with ndp support, instead of the conservatives | Jun 24 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I heard that when the old hag croaks, Canada may not recognize a replacement | Jun 24 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that'll get rid of the monarchy | Jun 24 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | your thoughts? | Jun 24 01:33 |
| oiaohm | Queen has no mil power here in Australia. | Jun 24 01:33 |
| oiaohm | Or problem is how to get rid of Queen and still have safe gards of ellections. | Jun 24 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even get how you call her a Queen | Jun 24 01:34 |
| ender2070 | every politician swears allegiance to the queen, i believe that would apply to her sucsessor | Jun 24 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | that title could lead one to believe she actually controls something | Jun 24 01:34 |
| ender2070 | in canada at least | Jun 24 01:34 |
| oiaohm | She does DaemonFC Ellections. | Jun 24 01:34 |
| ender2070 | who knows, her replacement might not be so benevolent | Jun 24 01:35 |
| oiaohm | Queen here is in charge of one thing. | Jun 24 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Technically, I think Canada could vote to recognize me their Sovereign | Jun 24 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | just throwing that out here | Jun 24 01:35 |
| *DaemonFC starts working the campaign trail to become King of Canada | Jun 24 01:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] ODFKit Hack Week starts http://bit.ly/cenbNG #ODF | Jun 24 01:36 | |
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| oiaohm | A while back Australia did go looking for an non english Sovereign. | Jun 24 01:36 |
| oiaohm | Results was the queen was still the best option. | Jun 24 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | monarchies are a bit dated | Jun 24 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie she is far enough away that she is out of our hair. | Jun 24 01:37 |
| oiaohm | But close enough that if something goes wrong can be called on. | Jun 24 01:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes other side of world seams to work quite well. | Jun 24 01:37 |
| ender2070 | she can take back land | Jun 24 01:37 |
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| DaemonFC | so Australia's like the kid that never calls you until he's in jail? | Jun 24 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | man.... | Jun 24 01:38 |
| ender2070 | someone said UK still had some of the feudal laws on the books where they could ship you off to australia | Jun 24 01:38 |
| oiaohm | No that is goverment power not queen. ender2070 that was removed years ago. | Jun 24 01:38 |
| ender2070 | i think its for poaching rabbits | Jun 24 01:38 |
| *DaemonFC goes to the UK and poaches some rabbits so he can be an American-Australian | Jun 24 01:39 | |
| DaemonFC | yeehaw | Jun 24 01:39 |
| oiaohm | Not to all of australia either ender2070 | Jun 24 01:39 |
| oiaohm | Its to new south wales. ender2070 | Jun 24 01:39 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jun 24 01:39 |
| ender2070 | really? | Jun 24 01:39 |
| oiaohm | UK is currently going threw there fed laws cleaning out all the ship to new south wales options. | Jun 24 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | tell me what I can do | Jun 24 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | do I have to make the honor guard smile? | Jun 24 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | cause I will | Jun 24 01:40 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] @diablod3 it offers a few things that give it an advantage, it produces compiled code with garbage collection, the guy who made c made it | Jun 24 01:40 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] @ender2070 Yawn, I can do garbage collection with C, and the guy who made C made C. | Jun 24 01:40 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] @diablod3 yeah but compared to java and mono? | Jun 24 01:40 | |
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| oiaohm | The fun bit is Australians have a better chance of having a meal the Queen in person than most UK cits. | Jun 24 01:41 |
| ender2070 | daemonfc - the media was actually criticizing the idea of putting Steven Harpor in charge of the military back when the olympics were on | Jun 24 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Note free meal as well. | Jun 24 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | well, yeah, but he's Harper | Jun 24 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Basically australian gets to UK and goes to australian embemcy and can register to be put in the pool to see the queen for lunch if she is in london. | Jun 24 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing you want is a Bush ally to be more in control of your military | Jun 24 01:43 |
| ender2070 | yeah true | Jun 24 01:43 |
| ender2070 | however it just goes to show you who is really in charge | Jun 24 01:43 |
| *DaemonFC could just see Bush in Texas going "Heh heh heh, I'm back in the game. Might be a fixer upper, but it's on like Donkey Kong now. heh heh heh" | Jun 24 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | "In the news today, 50,000 Canadian soldiers were called up to go to Iraq" | Jun 24 01:44 |
| ender2070 | well like you said, shes a foreign monarch | Jun 24 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they know what giving Harper more power means | Jun 24 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | might as well just appoint Bush as your PM | Jun 24 01:45 |
| ender2070 | well they say, Steven Harper is so far up Bush's ass that he can see Tony Blair's feet | Jun 24 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Jun 24 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | ... | Jun 24 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: thats rather clever | Jun 24 01:46 |
| ender2070 | you dont want to know the source | Jun 24 01:46 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 01:46 |
| ender2070 | steve harper copying australian pm speech word for word | Jun 24 01:48 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8YwJC_nBgw | Jun 24 01:48 |
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| ender2070 | the source of that joke was david icke lol | Jun 24 01:48 |
| ender2070 | he probably ripped someone off though | Jun 24 01:48 |
| ender2070 | and added reptilians to it | Jun 24 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | the Queen is a Reptilian, give your military to Harper and he will save you | Jun 24 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | heh heh heh | Jun 24 01:49 |
| ender2070 | lol david icke actually says that about her | Jun 24 01:50 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] @ender2070 I used C for a decade. After getting comfortable with Java, I'm never going back. | Jun 24 01:50 | |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaZpMtXDW0 | Jun 24 01:51 |
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| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqf0N0Z2nps | Jun 24 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | Wells Fargo finally upgraded to Solaris 10 | Jun 24 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | they were using Solaris 8 | Jun 24 01:55 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 01:56 |
| ender2070 | hey they could've been using os/2 | Jun 24 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Slowlaris | Jun 24 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | 10 is bad enough | Jun 24 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | why were they using a version that's 9 years old? | Jun 24 01:57 |
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| djadam | hey, friend told me about this earlier: | Jun 24 01:58 |
| djadam | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/banshee-list/2010-June/msg00089.html | Jun 24 01:58 |
| ender2070 | "Still, all declarations of war are issued with the approval, and in the name, of the monarch, and must be signed by either the sovereign or the governor general, as was done with the proclamation that declared Canada at war with Nazi Germany, issued on 10 September 1939" | Jun 24 01:58 |
| djadam | looks like Ubuntu guys are working with Banshee now | Jun 24 01:58 |
| djadam | will be the default media player in 10.10 | Jun 24 01:59 |
| ender2070 | ewww | Jun 24 01:59 |
| djadam | wait, maybe it's only the netbook edition | Jun 24 02:01 |
| djadam | I missed that before | Jun 24 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Sabayon looked quite nice once | Jun 24 02:03 |
| djadam | still | Jun 24 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up installing it and enjoyed it all the way up to using emerge | Jun 24 02:03 |
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| ender2070 | emerge rocks | Jun 24 02:10 |
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| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSrKjZ9Ki1c | Jun 24 02:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Linux Games Publishing is dying | Jun 24 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | anyone who expects their CEO to honor the promise that the last thing they do as a company will be to remove all their DRM will probably be disappointed | Jun 24 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | many bankrupt companies prefer their work to die with them instead of opening it up | Jun 24 02:37 |
| cubezzz | that would be a pity | Jun 24 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm actually surprised that anything survived Netscape | Jun 24 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of poorly run companies that die | Jun 24 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | The total rewrite was amusing though | Jun 24 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | just a few years of hackery and spaghetti code to try to keep pace with IE meant that nothing was reusable in the end | Jun 24 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | there's still a very early alpha of "Netscape 5" floating around that uses the first public build of Gecko | Jun 24 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | it mostly jsut leaks memory and crashes | Jun 24 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | much like current release versions of Internet Explorer | Jun 24 02:40 |
| cubezzz | well they are not allowed to open source ported code | Jun 24 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | IE 8 is funny | Jun 24 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | the quality of the layout engine reminds me of very early Mozilla builds | Jun 24 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | maybe the 0.6.x branch | Jun 24 02:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: things are changing. | Jun 24 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | you know, bugs that make it screw up, misrender the page slowly, and maybe even crash | Jun 24 02:42 |
| oiaohm | More and more dieing companies are open sourcing as last move. | Jun 24 02:42 |
| cubezzz | most game source code disappears | Jun 24 02:42 |
| cubezzz | good example: rt2 | Jun 24 02:42 |
| oiaohm | Also companies charging too much like lightworks was are also at risk of take over to be open sourced. | Jun 24 02:43 |
| cubezzz | none of the loki games were open sourced either, AFAIK | Jun 24 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, well open sourcing and selling a commercial version of it with support would have kept them alive in many cases | Jun 24 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | if you stick with just the code that a few paid programmers can put out, you're going to pay a fortune and never keep up | Jun 24 02:43 |
| cubezzz | a number of the LGP programmers work for free | Jun 24 02:44 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases there is no advantage to keeping an game engine closed course. | Jun 24 02:44 |
| oiaohm | source. | Jun 24 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of novel ideas in niche Linux distributions survive in spite of themselves | Jun 24 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | even if they are incredibly useful to some people | Jun 24 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | just because a proprietary company would never profit by dedicating programmers to similar use cases | Jun 24 02:45 |
| cubezzz | you have source, it will compile on your system == still alive | Jun 24 02:45 |
| oiaohm | The open source scrapyard as I call it. | Jun 24 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft made the security vs performance choice with IIS on Windows a while back | Jun 24 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Ideas sit there until someone comes along and picks it up. | Jun 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | now so much of their web server is in the kernel, it's impossible to secure | Jun 24 02:46 |
| cubezzz | well games seem to be different | Jun 24 02:46 |
| ender2070 | IIS is a joke daemonfc | Jun 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | even if some of it is really fast | Jun 24 02:46 |
| cubezzz | I find they just don't get opened up | Jun 24 02:46 |
| oiaohm | IIS is not the only webserver in kernel. | Jun 24 02:46 |
| ender2070 | i know | Jun 24 02:46 |
| oiaohm | others have managed to secure in kernel web servers. | Jun 24 02:46 |
| ender2070 | its ALL bullshit | Jun 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | internet facing services have no business having dedicated kernel hooks | Jun 24 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's begging to be exploited | Jun 24 02:46 |
| oiaohm | IIS is poor design. | Jun 24 02:47 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jun 24 02:47 |
| cubezzz | ummm, yeah :) | Jun 24 02:47 |
| ender2070 | IIS is the worst thing in the world | Jun 24 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Have you looked at the code flow path of IIS vs Appache or any other sainly design http server. | Jun 24 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | there needs to be a wall of separation there even if it does cost you your benchmark lead | Jun 24 02:47 |
| oiaohm | IIS is a pure design mess. | Jun 24 02:47 |
| cubezzz | rt2 could live again though | Jun 24 02:47 |
| oiaohm | There is no layers in it anywhere DaemonFC | Jun 24 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather lose 5% of my performance than end up throwing out a welcome mat for attackers | Jun 24 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Userspace or kernel space. | Jun 24 02:47 |
| ender2070 | I'd take a LAMP stack over IIS | Jun 24 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Even in userspace you should have layers of secuirty. | Jun 24 02:48 |
| cubezzz | well, just robustness | Jun 24 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Even if IIS was running userspace it still would be a welcome mat. | Jun 24 02:48 |
| oiaohm | MS needs to rewrite IIS from scratch. | Jun 24 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft stuff tends to be dangerous because it makes it very easily for inexperienced users to mess things up very badly, in subtle ways | Jun 24 02:49 |
| cubezzz | you don't want a LKM bringing the whole OS down | Jun 24 02:49 |
| oiaohm | Its got left overs in it from IIS 1 | Jun 24 02:49 |
| ender2070 | MS needs to burn it and kill it | Jun 24 02:49 |
| ender2070 | and just use apache | Jun 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | *easy | Jun 24 02:49 |
| cubezzz | how about Microsoft just dies? Good idea? :) | Jun 24 02:49 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jun 24 02:49 |
| oiaohm | And each IIS has attempted to have a different secuirty desing. | Jun 24 02:49 |
| oiaohm | So now you have a really bad problem. | Jun 24 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: There's a guy that was reviewing Fedora 13 and complaining that you have to add an allow in the firewall before connecting to Windows shares | Jun 24 02:49 |
| oiaohm | 6 different secuirty designs none fully completed messing with each other. | Jun 24 02:50 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | certainly he must realize that's there to make sure the user knows what they're doing before opening up a potential exploit vector | Jun 24 02:50 |
| ender2070 | because fedora is secure | Jun 24 02:50 |
| cubezzz | dude, linux 2.2 on parallel port is pretty secure :) | Jun 24 02:50 |
| ender2070 | DOS is pretty secure | Jun 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | the shares connection isn't a one-way street | Jun 24 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | a Windows user on the other end can manipulate your files and settings on your Linux system | Jun 24 02:51 |
| cubezzz | just cut out all tcp/ip | Jun 24 02:51 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - not really | Jun 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | or a bit of random malware running on the remote system could figure something out I guess | Jun 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's never happened, but it could I think | Jun 24 02:51 |
| ender2070 | they need your password and a share | Jun 24 02:51 |
| oiaohm | Samba is more sold than windows sharing system. | Jun 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | password isn't a problem | Jun 24 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | most people are idiots | Jun 24 02:52 |
| oiaohm | Samba is the cause of lot of the attacks malware used against windows sharing. | Jun 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | dictionary attack and 10 minutes or less would give you over 80% success rate | Jun 24 02:52 |
| oiaohm | They find most of the bugs years ahead of MS. | Jun 24 02:52 |
| oiaohm | I still like the one in windows 2000 | Jun 24 02:52 |
| oiaohm | You did not need a password to edit the windows 2000 registry remotely. | Jun 24 02:52 |
| oiaohm | That the samba teams found. | Jun 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | in reverse engineering the protocol, they uncover the security flaws you mean? :) | Jun 24 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft must love them.... | Jun 24 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Lots of them. | Jun 24 02:53 |
| oiaohm | adverage of about 50 a year. | Jun 24 02:53 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Even new protocals out are still turning up flaws. | Jun 24 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | well yeah, Microsoft likes to promote security by no source code access, but that's an illusion with network protocols (or most other stuff) | Jun 24 02:53 |
| cubezzz | Haiku is worth looking it, AROS is rather hard | Jun 24 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | watching how the system works long enough will break almost any security | Jun 24 02:54 |
| oiaohm | No DaemonFC | Jun 24 02:54 |
| ender2070 | Haiku lacks drivers though | Jun 24 02:54 |
| oiaohm | Myth. | Jun 24 02:54 |
| cubezzz | with AROS you really have to choose your hardware carefully | Jun 24 02:54 |
| cubezzz | yeah, everything lacks drivers, except Linux really | Jun 24 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: The best you can do is layer different forms of security/verifications/etc on top of one another | Jun 24 02:54 |
| cubezzz | even Doze is lousy with old stuff | Jun 24 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | make someone else an easier target | Jun 24 02:54 |
| oiaohm | Out of all the network protocal Linux guys have attacked MS protocals for secuirty problems is the worst. | Jun 24 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Only thing worse is something like telnet. | Jun 24 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | even the mediocre security improvements in Vista/7 have caused a lot of attackers to double down on XP | Jun 24 02:55 |
| oiaohm | That has no encryption. | Jun 24 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | because it is a softer target with more users | Jun 24 02:55 |
| cubezzz | ftp is bad too | Jun 24 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Yet MS stuff is ment to be encrypted. | Jun 24 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Remember the protocals MS are using were SUN's first. | Jun 24 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | security is never a question of can it be broken, it should be used to make breaking through it so much effort that the attacker gives up and goes after something easier | Jun 24 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Suns protocals for printing and networking sharing have no issues at all. DaemonFC | Jun 24 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | more lucrative | Jun 24 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Its all the stuff MS has added were the problems are. | Jun 24 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I used to have my router firewall block ActiveX applets | Jun 24 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | that served me well until I tried using Vista | Jun 24 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | and it broke the update system | Jun 24 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 24 02:57 |
| oiaohm | ActiveX | Jun 24 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Another case of before they even releaed it secuirty experts told them it was crap. | Jun 24 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's funny that there's really almost no difference between a $50 router at Walmart and a $500 security gateway something or other | Jun 24 02:58 |
| oiaohm | MS is the three wise monkeys here no evil see no evil do nothing and wonder why you OS is toast. | Jun 24 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | besides what the software it runs can do | Jun 24 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | the biggest difference is how crippled the firmware is | Jun 24 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's not different than the editions of Windows 7 | Jun 24 02:59 |
| cubezzz | coreboot ftw | Jun 24 02:59 |
| oiaohm | There is a difference with proper secuirty gateways | Jun 24 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | all the features are there to begin with then Microsoft turns them off as the price goes down | Jun 24 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Large cpu DaemonFC | Jun 24 02:59 |
| oiaohm | Compared to the cheep ones. | Jun 24 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | the Linksys ones are crippled in hardware | Jun 24 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | they reduced the memory down to enforce their software crippling | Jun 24 02:59 |
| ender2070 | [21:51] <DaemonFC> yeah, it's funny that there's really almost no difference between a $50 router at Walmart and a $500 security gateway something or other | Jun 24 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Linksys secuirty gateway runnings 200 mhz faster. | Jun 24 03:00 |
| ender2070 | you've never owned a good one | Jun 24 03:00 |
| oiaohm | As well as more ram. | Jun 24 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | the expensive router has 16 MB of RAM and the cheapie has 4 MB | Jun 24 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | they do that so you can't use the full DD-WRT on your cheapie router | Jun 24 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Those are toys. | Jun 24 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | the difference in RAM saves them a penny or two | Jun 24 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | you can overclock your router | Jun 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 24 03:01 |
| oiaohm | A proper secuirty router takes up a full 1RU case. | Jun 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | the clock speed of the stock CPU is irrelevant | Jun 24 03:01 |
| oiaohm | No its not. | Jun 24 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | same CPU, they just underclocked it in the cripped Walmart version | Jun 24 03:01 |
| ender2070 | daemonfc knows nothing about good hardware | Jun 24 03:01 |
| oiaohm | Cooling to handle the clock speed is missing out the walmart one. | Jun 24 03:02 |
| cubezzz | I hate how my DSL modem and Dlink router don't work 100% with each other | Jun 24 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | good hardware is expensive hardware even when it's the same hardware | Jun 24 03:02 |
| oiaohm | So you overclock you will kill it. | Jun 24 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's what Cisco wants you to believe | Jun 24 03:02 |
| ender2070 | he probably runs a pcchips motherboard, amd duron, ati 9800 agp | Jun 24 03:02 |
| oiaohm | I have had the Cisco stuff apart DaemonFC | Jun 24 03:02 |
| oiaohm | I know the differences. | Jun 24 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, massive pressure change | Jun 24 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | high winds | Jun 24 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | house is rumbling | Jun 24 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | hail coming down | Jun 24 03:03 |
| ender2070 | noob | Jun 24 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | not good | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | The motherbord in the device might be the same DaemonFC | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | The fans and the heat sinks are not. | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | That is what they have changed to run at the high speeds those changes are critical. | Jun 24 03:03 |
| oiaohm | Ok I do agree for the ammount of stuff they change they are over charging. | Jun 24 03:04 |
| cubezzz | I liked Sun's idea of a stabilizer bar for the motherboard, keeps it from flexing | Jun 24 03:04 |
| oiaohm | Really I like the complete metal tray under motherboard better. | Jun 24 03:06 |
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| ender2070 | his cyrix crashed | Jun 24 03:08 |
| oiaohm | I have used junk stuff ender2070 | Jun 24 03:08 |
| oiaohm | But I know what has to be replaced to bring it up to spec | Jun 24 03:08 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 24 03:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Woo hoo! RT @sharon000: Judge tosses out Viacom's copyright lawsuit against YouTube http://bit.ly/cfRZlU | Jun 24 03:09 | |
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| oiaohm | I have decased a Linksys to use it as a secuirty wall before. | Jun 24 03:10 |
| cubezzz | yeah you could probably shore up a cheapie motherboard with excellent heat sink | Jun 24 03:10 |
| oiaohm | to add cooling of course. | Jun 24 03:10 |
| oiaohm | Also the most expensive chip is not the best. | Jun 24 03:11 |
| oiaohm | And the fastest chip is not the best. | Jun 24 03:11 |
| cubezzz | of course not | Jun 24 03:11 |
| oiaohm | You want something 1 or 2 speeds under max. | Jun 24 03:11 |
| cubezzz | and you know I don't run fast :) | Jun 24 03:11 |
| oiaohm | Because those failed being max. | Jun 24 03:11 |
| ender2070 | the fastest chip is the best | Jun 24 03:11 |
| oiaohm | But now they are well over spec for where they are. | Jun 24 03:11 |
| oiaohm | So there failure rates are way lower than the fastest chip. | Jun 24 03:12 |
| ender2070 | perhaps for AMD | Jun 24 03:12 |
| oiaohm | AMD or Intel. | Jun 24 03:12 |
| cubezzz | the p4's ran pretty hot | Jun 24 03:12 |
| oiaohm | I get 7 to 8 years out servers running 24/7 | Jun 24 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Without question. | Jun 24 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Its just knowing what parts to pick. | Jun 24 03:13 |
| cubezzz | I seem to replace power supplies a lot :-/ | Jun 24 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes more heat a part make the worse they are. | Jun 24 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Hot video card? cubezzz | Jun 24 03:13 |
| cubezzz | nope | Jun 24 03:14 |
| cubezzz | video card is very old | Jun 24 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Remember all heat of case normally ends up going up threw powersupply. | Jun 24 03:14 |
| oiaohm | UPS? cubezzz | Jun 24 03:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Wow! RT @glynmoody: 160,000 Android Phones Sold Per Day - http://tcrn.ch/cHrt4V that's a run-rate of 60 million a year | Jun 24 03:14 | |
| cubezzz | yes | Jun 24 03:14 |
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| oiaohm | How old. | Jun 24 03:14 |
| cubezzz | oh, about 5 years I guess | Jun 24 03:14 |
| oiaohm | I was about to say please don't say about 5 years. | Jun 24 03:15 |
| cubezzz | or did you mean the video card? it's 11 years old | Jun 24 03:15 |
| oiaohm | The ups age | Jun 24 03:15 |
| cubezzz | my 486 is 17 years old and it's power supply still works | Jun 24 03:15 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 24 03:15 |
| oiaohm | It needs to be checked. cubezzz | Jun 24 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Some of those 5 year old UPS's don't switch correctly instead cause power spikes | Jun 24 03:15 |
| oiaohm | That kill powersupplies. | Jun 24 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Ie you could have a power supply assissian. | Jun 24 03:16 |
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| cubezzz | so you're saying I need to replace the UPS every 5 years? | Jun 24 03:16 |
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| oiaohm | No about 5 years ago a bad set of control chips were made for UPS's. | Jun 24 03:17 |
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| oiaohm | If you have one it kills computer power supplies. cubezzz | Jun 24 03:17 |
| oiaohm | There are particular time frames you don't want hardware from. | Jun 24 03:17 |
| cubezzz | ummm, it's older actually: | Jun 24 03:17 |
| cubezzz | MANDATE : 2003-10-14 | Jun 24 03:17 |
| oiaohm | At that age it could be simply buggered. | Jun 24 03:18 |
| cubezzz | might have been on the shelf at the store a while though | Jun 24 03:18 |
| oiaohm | or almost buggered. | Jun 24 03:18 |
| oiaohm | Also 2003 tech for regulating power in cheep UPS's was not that great. | Jun 24 03:19 |
| cubezzz | it's APC Back-UPS ES 725 | Jun 24 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Now if its a big 1000VA unit from 2003 its most likely Ok. | Jun 24 03:19 |
| oiaohm | Its possible worn out. cubezzz | Jun 24 03:19 |
| oiaohm | 2003 the were still using non solid caps. | Jun 24 03:20 |
| oiaohm | In those units. | Jun 24 03:20 |
| cubezzz | "Many of us here at APC have old Smart-UPS or Back-UPS from around 2000 or older under our desks. Mine is from 1997." | Jun 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Back-ups are kick in units. | Jun 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | The always on line units from 2004 and before are still solid today. | Jun 24 03:22 |
| oiaohm | The kick in versions like Back-UPS with age they don't kick in when they should any more. | Jun 24 03:22 |
| oiaohm | Basically a UPS is not a ups cubezzz | Jun 24 03:23 |
| cubezzz | what would you recommend? | Jun 24 03:24 |
| oiaohm | The smart-ups are always on line models. | Jun 24 03:25 |
| oiaohm | So you don't have the issue that the back-up versions create. | Jun 24 03:25 |
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| oiaohm | And wear better. | Jun 24 03:25 |
| oiaohm | Smart-UPS On-Line are the best in the APC range. | Jun 24 03:26 |
| oiaohm | But again it comes down to what you can aford cubezzz | Jun 24 03:26 |
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| ender2070 | https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doomed_to_FAIL | Jun 24 03:28 |
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| ender2070 | wicked | Jun 24 03:28 |
| oiaohm | Basically still running a old Smart-UPS I would not be sus of the UPS as much cubezzz | Jun 24 03:28 |
| oiaohm | There are other makers who keep the battery always in the loop as well cubezzz | Jun 24 03:29 |
| oiaohm | Those devices handle power failure better and don't spike. Heck the cheep built ups ie inverter battery and battery charger is more solid then some of thoso so call smart kick in devices. | Jun 24 03:30 |
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| oiaohm | Still here cubezzz basically I don't recommend any particular brand. Most important thing is the way its operation. Always filtering and running is better than trying to switch in when the power disappears by a long shot. | Jun 24 03:33 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] http://2tu.us/2c8z - LOL | Jun 24 03:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2: New blog post: "Geeknic and SF Ubuntu Hour" http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=3090 | Jun 24 05:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. | Jun 24 05:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] One Day One Command - via - sms - Re-started in India http://post.ly/kYOk | Jun 24 06:06 | |
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| MinceR | it takes a crApple to "design" a phone in a way that users will touch the antenna directly in normal usage | Jun 24 06:41 |
| MinceR | what could possibly go wrong? | Jun 24 06:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] In todays telecast for schoolos(linux) we will be teaching Ktrutle programming - 3pm to 4pm by IST - vlc mms://124.124.36.38/gd1 #foss | Jun 24 06:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Hear this #SCOTUS? Decide for the right thing today in #bilski ! ♺ @slashdot: Apple Sues HTC Again Over Patents http://bit.ly/bXMmkK | Jun 24 08:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra @mecredis: ASCAP is soliciting funds to fight against Creative Commons, Public Knowledge + EFF. Sad. http://twitpic.com/1zai6e | Jun 24 09:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Review: Kirkpatrick’s The Facebook Effect Is A Wonderfully Biased History Of Facebook - http://tcrn.ch/bPSPR1 lovely description #facebook | Jun 24 09:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Supersonic winds observed on exoplanet - http://bit.ly/d1QKxK clever piece of observation #exoplanets #astronomy | Jun 24 09:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A world of big IT companies ("Think Big") H264 patent license is cheap: http://ur1.ca/0ca89 | Jun 24 09:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mono Warning: Fresh Attempts to Inject #Banshee Into #Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.10 http://ur1.ca/0cadi #gnu #linux #novell | Jun 24 10:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] pic of the week: UK Pavilion at Shanghai EXPO 2010 - http://bit.ly/dyt9mB aka The Dandelion - http://bit.ly/b09HM2 #pix #china #shanghai | Jun 24 10:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Plumber's turned up 75 minutes late. Still no sign of the guys who're supposed to be fixing the countertop. | Jun 24 10:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why Share-Alike Licenses are Open but Non-Commercial Ones Aren’t - http://bit.ly/dmWvT0 important explanation #openness | Jun 24 10:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Countertop repariers turned up at last, 1h35m late | Jun 24 10:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The "As such" trick to get software patentable, IBM and Microsoft lobbying in NZ to copy the EPO trick: http://ur1.ca/0can2 | Jun 24 11:03 | |
| ziggyfish | Australia got a new PM today, the first female Australian PM | Jun 24 11:04 |
| sebsebseb | ziggyfish: oh? | Jun 24 11:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Oil spills: Legacy of the Torrey Canyon - http://bit.ly/a4p5DH salutary tale from 40 years ago #oil #spill | Jun 24 11:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Sues Android/Linux Again, ‘Anti-Microsoft’ Patent Upheld, In Re #Bilski May be Due Today http://ur1.ca/0caye #swpats #Patents | Jun 24 11:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSUSE does the right thing by actively distancing itself from #Novell http://ur1.ca/0cb5a #swpats #gnu #linux | Jun 24 11:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Censorship in Europe [full video of WL/IMMI at EU Parliament] http://dai.ly/b1Muvc | Jun 24 12:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] And two new patent cases. Apple v HTC http://is.gd/d1T1I and Frontier v Google http://is.gd/d1T2R | Jun 24 12:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] "slide to unlock" - patented by Apple. How inventive. http://is.gd/d1Tq3 | Jun 24 12:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Duke Energy is the state-sponsored monopolist here for electricity | Jun 24 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | you can't get rid of them | Jun 24 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | so I've decided to call them the Duke you can't drop | Jun 24 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 12:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] 9 hour blackout. All hail #Duke #Energy, the Duke you just can't drop! | Jun 24 12:36 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I ran into the mayor last night at the street department | Jun 24 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | he told me to burn candles | Jun 24 12:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Timely reminder of the fact that software patents opposition is not the same of Free software advocacy http://ur1.ca/0cbhs #swpats | Jun 24 12:37 | |
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| schestowitz | With your pistol, right? | Jun 24 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | I told him I hope there's a few firefighters he hasn't canned in case anyone's candles fell over | Jun 24 12:37 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jun 24 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: He fired the people that trim trees | Jun 24 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | then the wind blew the trees into the power lines | Jun 24 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | who could have seen that coming? | Jun 24 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | in his defense of course | Jun 24 12:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #FirstDirect travel cover paid out 100% of our expenses from being stranded by the #ashcloud, even though it was outside the policy | Jun 24 12:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @janhusar: odds are increasing that #Microsoft business will just completely collapse http://bit.ly/bnHnzk #forbes | Jun 24 12:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/all-hail-duke-energy-the-duke-you-cant-drop/ | Jun 24 13:07 |
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| cubezzz | the zaurus gets about 550K per sec on usbnet | Jun 24 13:13 |
| cubezzz | not bad | Jun 24 13:13 |
| *DaemonFC hits cubezzz with Duke Energy | Jun 24 13:15 | |
| DaemonFC | holy shit | Jun 24 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1010_btrfs&num=2 | Jun 24 13:21 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Zealand’s Legislation Regarding Software #Patents Shows That the US is the Boss http://ur1.ca/0cbpp #swpats | Jun 24 13:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Mandriva has fallen off the Earth | Jun 24 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | or so it looks | Jun 24 13:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: New #ACTA leak shows EU Member States pushing criminal sanctions for non-profit usages & inciting http://ur1.ca/0cbmn | Jun 24 13:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Mark Lewis Libel Claim - http://bit.ly/d2xKui I don't really know the background, but this sounds interesting #uk #libel | Jun 24 13:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Visa's payclick takes on PayPal for micropayments - http://bit.ly/d2ja8p given insecure way they run Verified by Visa, I wouldn't touch it | Jun 24 13:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @glynmoody Oh c'mon - PayPal is like so secure and stuff? ;-) | Jun 24 13:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK News Sites Hit Record Traffic In Election Month - http://bit.ly/cdCnWi hope Rupe's reading this... #newspapers | Jun 24 13:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Forbes: "odds are increasing that Microsoft's business will just completely collapse." http://ur1.ca/0cbv3 | Jun 24 13:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] OpenStreetMap: 2010 State of the Map conference - http://bit.ly/9zC0j7 if you can find your way to Girona #osm #spain | Jun 24 13:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @jwildeboer well, at least they haven't based their approach on phishing-like embedded frames like Visa... | Jun 24 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: how did you "tweet" with no power? Batteries? UPS? | Jun 24 13:58 |
| oiaohm | I would guess phone schestowitz | Jun 24 13:59 |
| MinceR | hand crank | Jun 24 13:59 |
| MinceR | or with mouth, like birds do :> | Jun 24 13:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer @glynmoody how about flattr? | Jun 24 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bird have mouths? Not beaks? | Jun 24 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Well, he tweeted to Duke about a cock | Jun 24 14:04 |
| MinceR | i think that still qualifies as a mouth | Jun 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | [09:36] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [daemonfc] #duke energy can lick my sweaty ball sack | Jun 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Ewww.. | Jun 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: watch the language here | Jun 24 14:05 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouth | Jun 24 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | "The mouth is the first portion of the alimentary canal that receives food and begins digestion by mechanically breaking up the solid food particles into smaller pieces and mixing them with saliva." | Jun 24 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Chicken has throat, do all of them have tongues? | Jun 24 14:06 |
| MinceR | i think they do | Jun 24 14:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz @jwildeboer never used it, but it does say "micropayments", which might mean only really small amounts: visa can be v. big | Jun 24 14:06 | |
| schestowitz | Dinosaurs didn't exactly have lips | Jun 24 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Unless you put lipstick on them :-) | Jun 24 14:06 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schimpanse_zoo-leipig.jpg | Jun 24 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | Totally not related to men :-) | Jun 24 14:07 |
| MinceR | why the past tense? dinosaurs still don't have lips :> | Jun 24 14:07 |
| MinceR | they have beaks instead | Jun 24 14:07 |
| schestowitz | God made money in his own image, just more hairy | Jun 24 14:07 |
| schestowitz | *monkey | Jun 24 14:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 24 14:07 |
| MinceR | money is god | Jun 24 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bailie_bell_plaque.jpg | Jun 24 14:08 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Look at the S! | Jun 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | It's like a flying saucer!! | Jun 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | [08:21] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [glynmoody] Indian Rupee Symbol to be Decided Today - http://bit.ly/dwYwgJ interesting: is there one for the Chinese currency? #india #china | Jun 24 14:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Leak: EU pushes for criminalizing non-commercial usages in ACTA - http://bit.ly/bBScYJ mixes counterfeit and copyright #acta | Jun 24 14:09 | |
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| schestowitz | If the symbol has a circle or triangle somewhere, then it's part of a conspiracy | Jun 24 14:10 |
| MinceR | http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda03/Items/Rupees_large.gif | Jun 24 14:10 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 24 14:10 |
| MinceR | rupee symbol. | Jun 24 14:10 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2006-12-09_Chipanzees_D_Bruyere.JPG | Jun 24 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | They have better feet than ours | Jun 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | "Intelligent design"? | Jun 24 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcrq5OOkQdk | Jun 24 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | geothermal | Jun 24 14:12 |
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| DaemonFC | actually, I saw a lot of people with generators | Jun 24 14:12 |
| *DaemonFC checks into that | Jun 24 14:12 | |
| schestowitz | aiiight.. i'm off to the sun | Jun 24 14:13 |
| MinceR | don't burn | Jun 24 14:13 |
| MinceR | even the surface is ~6000°C | Jun 24 14:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz flattr is prepaid, so they keep th emoney untill they distribute. medontlike | Jun 24 14:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @privacyint EuroParl apparently adopts Decl. 29 calling on search engine providers to retain searches. http://is.gd/d21vv (PDF) >>twits | Jun 24 14:21 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Malware-certified-trustworthy-Update-1027066.html | Jun 24 14:23 |
| Techrights | Title: Malware: certified trustworthy - Update - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.43 KB | Jun 24 14:23 |
| oiaohm | So much for MS signed executeables. | Jun 24 14:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] US tries to block progress on treaty for blind and other disabilities - http://huff.to/cT2M6N somebody needs to hold up mirror for them | Jun 24 15:08 | |
| Techrights | Title: James Love: US tries to block progress on treaty for blind and other disabilities .::. Size~: 118.41 KB | Jun 24 15:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Dapper Caps & Pedalcopters: the third (excellent) Wondermark comics collection http://tinyurl.com/39628wo | Jun 24 15:11 | |
| Techrights | Title: Dapper Caps and Pedal-Copters: more sharp-edged, elaborated whimsy from Wondermark - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 10.53 KB | Jun 24 15:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] a question: are the names of signatories to EU Written Declarations available somewhere (re Declaration 29)? #eu | Jun 24 15:12 | |
| MinceR | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2010/06/full-analysis-of-iphone-economics-its-bad-news-and-then-it-gets-worse.html | Jun 24 15:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Those that Live by the DMCA.... - http://bit.ly/d4mk4G get nasty surprises when it is applied rigorously #dmca #viacom #google | Jun 24 15:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @webmink @richardfontana #SCOTUS announces that final opinions will be issued on Monday 28 June - that should include #Bilski >>in diary | Jun 24 15:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Nokia Dumps Symbian and Creates Symbiosis with Linux - http://bit.ly/aYJhbH pretty significant #nokia #meego #linux | Jun 24 15:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Canada's Heritage Minister caught covering up "radical extremists" slur - http://bit.ly/9KgIAi so shouldn't he resign now? | Jun 24 16:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Google Can Remotely Remove Apps From Your Phone - http://bit.ly/d60I8s not new, but still not nice #android | Jun 24 16:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] 50 Fresh And Breathtaking Examples Of Landscape Photography - http://bit.ly/dkzi2l pity we don't look after this stuff well (via @openworld) | Jun 24 16:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @glynwintle MPs' expenses now less accessible - http://bit.ly/bFfMvB this is progress? #uk #transparency | Jun 24 16:27 | |
| Techrights | Title: MPs' expenses: how much did they claim in travel? As a spreadsheet | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 96.68 KB | Jun 24 16:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @zotz: @jwildeboer isn't the zipper prior art for "slide to unlock"? | LOL - Virtual Zippers | Jun 24 16:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @sixtus: "How to Access the Internet (A Guide from 2025)" http://bit.ly/c1EJct | sad but a true possibility. | Jun 24 16:46 | |
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| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_THAILAND_FORD?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Jun 24 17:17 |
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| schestowitz | Ford is good for America? | Jun 24 17:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @webmink @richardfontana #SCOTUS announces that final opinions will be issued on Monday 28 June - that should include #Bilski | Jun 24 17:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] UK Treasury partners with WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/aiKTEH | Jun 24 17:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks UK Treasury partners with WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/aiKTEH | Jun 24 17:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @glynwintle MPs' expenses now less accessible - http://bit.ly/bFfMvB this is progress? #uk #transparency | Jun 24 17:36 | |
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| Techrights | Title: MPs' expenses: how much did they claim in travel? As a spreadsheet | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 99 KB | Jun 24 17:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Human Genome Project leader warns against attempts to patent genes - http://bit.ly/95P15G Sir John wades in (via @timjph) #genepatents | Jun 24 17:39 | |
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| schestowitz | http://lifehacker.com/5570109/firefox-364-adds-chrome+like-crash-protection-from-plug+ins-available-for-download?skyline=true&s=i | Jun 24 17:42 |
| Techrights | Title: Firefox Updates with Chrome-Like Crash Protection from Plug-ins .::. Size~: 78.49 KB | Jun 24 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Adobe Trash necessitates it | Jun 24 17:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] McCrystal had to go, but what motivated Obama given unity on Afg? Crackdown on unauthorised disclosures to the press! | Jun 24 17:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Prova.fm wants to change the face of crowdsourced design - http://bit.ly/b4S3X7 interesting to see businesses around #crowdsourcing | Jun 24 17:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] NUJ vows to support court challenges against Digital Economy Act - http://bit.ly/coXKRi be bonkers not to #deact | Jun 24 17:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Philip Rosedale is Returning to the Lab - http://bit.ly/d0UqVJ amazing saga unfolding here #secondlife #virtualworlds | Jun 24 17:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Sharing Industry Keeps Growing with Weeels, Closest Closet - http://bit.ly/d1oKYS daft names, better ideas #sharing | Jun 24 17:56 | |
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| schestowitz | ghacks started advertising Vista 7 in Linux articles: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/23/old-school-linux-tips/ | Jun 24 17:59 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BP is burning endangered sea turtles alive - http://bit.ly/dy1g8K if true: how much does BP want to be hated? # bp | Jun 24 17:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Tibetan environmentalist says Chinese jailers tortured him - http://bit.ly/dr08TP "illegally collecting information about the environment" | Jun 24 18:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody exaggerated "Once the turtles get in there they can't get out" http://ur1.ca/0cean Raw Story generally sexes up stories | Jun 24 18:05 | |
| Techrights | Title: BP burning sea turtles alive | Raw Story .::. Size~: 71.45 KB | Jun 24 18:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Great victory to #linux today as it replaces Symbian at he industry's leader: http://ur1.ca/0ceh0 | Jun 24 18:32 | |
| Techrights | Title: Nokia N-Series: Hello MeeGo, Goodbye Symbian : Product Reviews Net .::. Size~: 23.72 KB | Jun 24 18:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Wikileaks on free speech in the West, history & future: http://dai.ly/bJz0Ac (starts at 1:08:34, see also attack in Q's) | Jun 24 18:39 | |
| Techrights | Title: Dailymotion - [ALEV-FULL] Freedom of Expression in Europe - a News & Politics video .::. Size~: 67.06 KB | Jun 24 18:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Sotomayor already said whatever the results of Bilski, won't change state street. So, everything is to remain the same. Pity | Jun 24 18:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Presumably, with the source code http://ur1.ca/0celp good people can remove Android's back door http://ur1.ca/0celq | Jun 24 18:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What on Earth is an "open source organization"? http://www.prweb.com/releases/Americaworkstogether/06WeSaveUSJobs/prweb4161334.htm | Jun 24 18:58 | |
| Techrights | Title: SaveUSJobs.org Launches Collaborative Open Source Recruiting Solutions to Employ America and Empower the Economy .::. Size~: 46.5 KB | Jun 24 18:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Need to get out of Office NOW to NOT miss NED game! #wclive | Jun 24 18:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Intro to Linux kernel programming - http://bit.ly/9nm9tF first few lessons are free (cc), remaining lessons available to subscribers #linux | Jun 24 19:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz I've not come across them before, hence my caveat. mind you, judging by BP's other efforts... | Jun 24 19:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] New Zealand Media Claiming That Huge Local Film Success Story Is Being Harmed... By 200 Downloaders? - http://bit.ly/dwhZ64 who needs facts? | Jun 24 19:26 | |
| Techrights | Title: New Zealand Media Claiming That Huge Local Film Success Story Is Being Harmed... By 200 Downloaders? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 22.83 KB | Jun 24 19:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mobile Developer Survey, June 2010 - http://bit.ly/cKTwrT "Android takes top honors for OS capabilities, openness, and, long-term outlook" | Jun 24 19:38 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @williamheath @gandy: Well done @tom_watson -won internal election to DCMS Select Cttee...Going to press for a review of #DEAct <= YES | Jun 24 19:40 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ou140/@ou140] it was unacceptable to you- i can't figure out why it should be so unacceptable to call some1 who(allegedly) betrays a movement a"traitor" | Jun 24 19:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to SLAYradio......scene music! http://www.slayradio.org/home.php | Jun 24 19:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Two MP3s, Circa 1956 - http://bit.ly/ciWnMg look at this; think about it... #storage #scaling | Jun 24 19:41 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ou140/@ou140] it may (or may not) have been fair, but that's the word many people would use if it was true | Jun 24 19:45 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ou140/@ou140] i thnk he's implying that he betrayed something because he probably did- i guess th implication by extension is rms would say that to any1 | Jun 24 19:50 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ou140/@ou140] ...for "no good reason" what, people who betray do not exist? | Jun 24 19:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Tony Blair for BP chairman? - http://bit.ly/dchdK7 oooh, yes please... #poodle #slick | Jun 24 19:53 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/62830 "These guys approach it as a basic right for everyone to see the source code, and they consider copyrights to be arcane feudal relics." FOSS does not annual copyright!! | Jun 24 20:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The other oil spill - http://bit.ly/bV4Qja excellent Economist piece on greens' success in turning palm oil into commercial liability | Jun 24 20:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Two MP3s, Circa 1956 - http://bit.ly/ciWnMg look at this; think about it... #storage #scaling | Jun 24 20:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Moratorium Won’t Stop Unprecedented BP Project in the Arctic - http://bit.ly/bAQwip maybe another look is warranted #bp #arctic | Jun 24 20:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody #poodle to replace #poodle | Jun 24 20:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz the possibilities are endless... | Jun 24 20:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] WTF? Still no #SCOTUS ruling on #Bilski? This is getting me more and more curious about it when it comes out... not for a couple of months. | Jun 24 20:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "In 2005 the media told us we were on the brink of another ice age. What happened?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmECHrOcFlc | Jun 24 20:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right what to do now? Finish off my nasty little BASH script...or do something else? I know....I'll try IT Crowd again! #4OD | Jun 24 20:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ruiseabra normal. In line with deadline | Jun 24 20:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Users report 'fault' on iPhone 4 - iDesign flaw DOH! - DANGER! Genius at work! rofl http://tinyurl.com/2dvxqvd | Jun 24 20:37 | |
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| mrf | hey roy | Jun 24 20:42 |
| mrf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlC9W8EqRUQ&annotation_id=annotation_457801&feature=iv | Jun 24 20:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to DHS - Superseghe dell'Amore e Citofono (For Yer Heart) #scene #chip #mod | Jun 24 20:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Probably the only decent Windows binary: http://tinyurl.com/c3m4bw (which also runs very happily in Wine) #gnu #linux #demoscene | Jun 24 20:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] My genius wife's to blame for this awesome reproductive health game http://tinyurl.com/3xx6s2d | Jun 24 20:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsPTtVkgIzIHey, mt | Jun 24 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | mrf: I left the trophy for you at the reception | Jun 24 20:53 |
| schestowitz | mrf: let me watch this.... | Jun 24 20:53 |
| mrf | ok thanks | Jun 24 20:53 |
| mrf | will be back in a bit just getting some food | Jun 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | ok, cool | Jun 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm watching the vid | Jun 24 20:54 |
| mrf | good | Jun 24 20:54 |
| schestowitz | mrf: we had this discussion before | Jun 24 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Farmers are mos vital to survival | Jun 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I said construction, you said farming | Jun 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'd be famine if the US couldn't just afford to import food | Jun 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | mrf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WZnDYsnRP0&NR=1 | Jun 24 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | mrf: the news article didn't connect it to BP | Jun 24 21:01 |
| schestowitz | So there's no verification of correlation | Jun 24 21:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Using @arkadyrose's old Thinkpad A30. Size of a starship console compared to the netbook. | Jun 24 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSmQubagg2o&feature=channel | Jun 24 21:02 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- BP Oil Spill: Media Lies & the Truth About a Teotwawki Event Happening Now .::. Size~: 106.66 KB | Jun 24 21:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/157vgy My sleepy village at sundown.. | Jun 24 21:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin nice! | Jun 24 21:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/157vpk could someone please tell my wife that putting lighted plastic insects in our hedge looks cheap and tacky. | Jun 24 21:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Don't encourage her! these things have popped up all over the garden,now its getting dark its starting to look like Blackpool.. | Jun 24 21:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz just not as "classy" | Jun 24 21:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin talking about the sunset (same here in real-time) | Jun 24 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | Ewwww.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtCQiD8mUqU | Jun 24 21:30 |
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| mrf | i saw that vid earlier today | Jun 24 21:31 |
| mrf | could be escaping methane | Jun 24 21:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz lol.....I thought you meant the plastic insects.... | Jun 24 21:32 | |
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| schestowitz | mrf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q02lK64ETB0 | Jun 24 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | This one is new | Jun 24 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Dispersent | Jun 24 21:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody new video about the turtles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4gT-M-sco | Jun 24 21:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] With DK out, the amount of european teams in #wclive is going down again. | Jun 24 21:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Anybody know any ThinClient Server (like LTSP) which is opensource and I can view using rdesktop from other clients #help | Jun 24 22:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] http://www.contraportagens.net/ => havia de ser campanha nacional! | Jun 24 22:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] E tem petição! Eu já assinei http://www.contraportagens.net/ e tu? | Jun 24 22:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Oposição aprova revogação de #chipespiao nas matrículas! Óptima decisão no Parlamento! | Jun 24 22:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Secretário de Estado q já devia ter sido demitido pelas ilegalidades à volta do Magalhães, ainda tem a lata de acusar outros de arrogância. | Jun 24 22:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitgoo.com/158104 now its dark the true horror of the lights is revealed | Jun 24 22:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Text of Urgent ACTA Communique - English - http://bit.ly/abr16B I see that my slightly less evil twin brother, Glen Moody, has signed #acta | Jun 24 22:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Data Commons – Attribution License released - http://bit.ly/ajQdvr nice move #opendata #commons | Jun 24 22:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Este palhaço mente: o identificador é identificável a bastantes metros com emissores potentes e receptores potentes. | Jun 24 22:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Se a fotografia já identifica, porque é que querem meter um #chipespiao? A história est'amal contada como tudo à volta deste Sec. de Estado. | Jun 24 22:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Ó Mário Crespo, ofereceu-te esta de que o #chipespiao não é obrigatório para identificar a viatura e não perguntas "então p'ra quê?" | Jun 24 22:27 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Objecting to the Increasing Burden on Copyright Owners and Creators - http://bit.ly/bPhM3Z burden is getting licenses to re-use (c) stuff | Jun 24 22:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] How many units has the #kin pushed #microsoft ? I'm hearing rumours its around 500! #mvp #apple #iphone #android #htc | Jun 24 22:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My top 5 metal tracks are a few days early this week...Im going to very busy on Saturday.... | Jun 24 22:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @cdibona @ayeletw Oh yeah, no problem with not vaccinating. No problem at all. http://tinyurl.com/2d4tnb2 >>parents take note | Jun 24 22:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @wilw: I have a new column at @Techland about how I got screwed by DRM. Again. (For the last time.) http://bit.ly/bYwbfV | Jun 24 22:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 1. Tristania - Heretique - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqq_p0MA91s&feature=related #metal #yourockon | Jun 24 22:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 2. Suidakra - Gates Of Nevermore - http://tinyurl.com/378h5co #yourockon #metal | Jun 24 22:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 3. Secret Sphere - The Brave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPy2hKop0y4 #metal #yourockon | Jun 24 22:46 | |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Secret Sphere - The Brave .::. Size~: 83.96 KB | Jun 24 22:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 4. Einherjer - Dragons Of The North - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taOB_BSdPw | Jun 24 22:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 4. Einherjer - Dragons Of The North - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taOB_BSdPw #metal #yourockon | Jun 24 22:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 5. Agathodaimon - Banner Of Blasphemy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biJBa8pjt9w #metal #yourockon | Jun 24 22:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oh....and this week Im going to have a #6.. Battlelore - Shadowgate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsmvZi1JiJ4 #metal #yourockon | Jun 24 22:59 | |
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| yuhong | IMO, the worst thing about the Carl Icann's take-over of Yahoo is NOT about Microsoft. | Jun 24 23:02 |
| yuhong | The worst thing about it is that it is based on the idea of maximizing "shareholder value" which dates back to corporate raiders in the 1980s. | Jun 24 23:04 |
| yuhong | It is very much flawed in many ways and have done a lot of harm. | Jun 24 23:04 |
| yuhong | Way beyond the takeovers. | Jun 24 23:05 |
| yuhong | I have this slashdot submission about it: http://slashdot.org/submission/1267190/HBRs-article-on-death-of-stock-based-compensation | Jun 24 23:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Ellsberg:Obama Should Release the Garani Massacre Video to the American Public Immediately http://bit.ly/b3e2jY | Jun 24 23:10 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 24 23:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Had a classic insult thrown at me via email.....Don't know what to say.....thanks? | Jun 24 23:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "You are a vile fettered FOSS advocate, wrapped in a tortilla of excrement and hate" - To me via email | Jun 24 23:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I'm really quite impressed...not sure its grammatically correct, but its the thought that counts. | Jun 24 23:15 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100623/LOCAL/306239984 | Jun 24 23:22 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0624/Sign-a-political-petition-Supreme-Court-says-the-public-can-know | Jun 24 23:28 |
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| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 24 23:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] This uniquely made flatbread product is going to go to bed soon..busy day tomorrow...and I want to try and finish a couple of articles... | Jun 24 23:28 | |
| DaemonFC | the Christians want to repeal that domestic partnership law yet hide their faces | Jun 24 23:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why James Moore Should Resign (for Being Hollywood's Aggressive Enforcer) http://ur1.ca/0cm25 #copyright #canada | Jun 24 23:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz depressing stuff | Jun 24 23:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | sort of like a Klan rally? | Jun 24 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://bigstupididiot.com/files/2009/09/ku_klux_klan_children.jpg | Jun 24 23:30 |
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| DaemonFC | You wondered why they all have 12 kids? | Jun 24 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 24 23:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] http://is.gd/d2G7O is everything that is right with the world. :-) | Jun 24 23:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] any open source ideas? RT @derekabdinor: What is a good piece of Enterprise Risk Management software? | Jun 24 23:35 | |
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| DeadSuperHero | omigawd it's jono! | Jun 24 23:38 |
| DeadSuperHero | He's like a celebrity! | Jun 24 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Comcast screwed up and sent me a check for the balance I owed them, then their billing dept sent me the bill I owed them | Jun 24 23:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I bet the local Maplin sells more items per day than the #kin sold in the whole world in a month | Jun 24 23:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I went down to the bank, deposited their check, and wrote them one of mine for the due amount :P | Jun 24 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | bills that pay themselves | Jun 24 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's a new one | Jun 24 23:39 |
| ThistleWeb | Maplin? isn't that the holiday park in Hi-di-hi? "Welcome to Maplins" | Jun 24 23:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @jonobacon Metallica? Who are they? Oh yes the band who went downhill after the Black album (IMO) What are they now? Soft rock? ;) | Jun 24 23:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody @cdibona @ayeletw see this new video on the same subject http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AJUWFXrBI | Jun 24 23:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I'd say thats a certainty! Don't mention the f'kin phone though....it seems to get people angry! | Jun 24 23:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @jonobacon Megadeth...one decent track....Hanger 18...can't think of anything else of theirs I like...and Anthrax....well...'nuff said. | Jun 24 23:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Hearing a lot of ClickOfDeath from my multimedia center's hard drive... next one inline, but lack of time for reinstall... | Jun 24 23:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Ellsberg:Obama Should Release the Garani Massacre Vid to the American Public Immediately http://bit.ly/b3e2jY #change #nohope | Jun 24 23:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @jonobacon By the way, my fave Severed Fifth track..."Beating Heart" - Great stuff there Jono! | Jun 24 23:43 | |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: :-> | Jun 24 23:44 |
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| MinceR | http://gizmodo.com/5571986/apple-support-says-yellow-tint-problem-is-residue-from-manufacturing | Jun 24 23:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @_goblin Vaccine scare crowd is hilarious, usually Christians. They caused a measles outbreak in Indiana 2006, only themselves affected. | Jun 24 23:45 | |
| MinceR | http://www.pcworld.com/article/199528/Multitasking_With_iOS_4_is_Horrible_Apple_Blew_It.html | Jun 24 23:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Multitasking With iOS 4 is Horrible: Apple Blew It - PCWorld .::. Size~: 74.39 KB | Jun 24 23:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin maybe that's why they rebranded "away from" the "Windows" brand, just like they did with Vista. They defend the brand by making... | Jun 24 23:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @_goblin Metallica plays Phil Collins. (And sues people for not buying it.) I like that! | Jun 24 23:46 | |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <Techrights> Title: Apple Support Says iPhone 4 Yellow Tint Problem Is "Residue From Manufacturing" .::. Size~: 80.3 KB | Jun 24 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Damn kids | Jun 24 23:46 |
| schestowitz | They should put more labour force on them.. bring 6 year olds to compete with them on wage | Jun 24 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | quality control from a suicidal overworked workforce just isn't up to snuff | Jun 24 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb: I'm surprised the news even got out | Jun 24 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | China used to be so good at suppressing things like that | Jun 24 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Chinese Worker Says Apple Support Yellow Tint Problem Is "Residue From Arrogance" | Jun 24 23:48 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah they shoulda hired Apples in house enforcers | Jun 24 23:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah, you know what they say... | Jun 24 23:49 |
| schestowitz | "Just shove an apple down tis kids's throat" | Jun 24 23:49 |
| schestowitz | *this kid's | Jun 24 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @DaemonFC I thought Lars and his comments on piracy killed off their fanbase years ago??? | Jun 24 23:49 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I like how that pearl white finish on Macs turns yellow after a few years | Jun 24 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | like you've been smoking 3 packs a day in front of it | Jun 24 23:50 |
| schestowitz | That's frokm toilet use | Jun 24 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Those white shiny toys they take to the WC | Jun 24 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Artsy Apple fans don't wash up well... you know the type | Jun 24 23:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] @_Goblin: thanks! | Jun 24 23:51 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: When far right wingers go to the Supreme Court and get a good lesson in civic virtue from Antonin Scalia, maybe they should give up? | Jun 24 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | Just a thought | Jun 24 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | [06:41:56] <schestowitz> Chinese Worker Says Apple Support Yellow Tint Problem Is "Residue From Arrogance" | Jun 24 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | so, uh | Jun 24 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | steve jobs was fapping using iphones again? | Jun 24 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | no Flash, porn is bad, mmk!? | Jun 24 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 24 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Who is Michael? http://www.ellsberg.net/ | Jun 24 23:53 |
| Techrights | Title: Daniel Ellsberg's Website — .::. Size~: 25.32 KB | Jun 24 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Just go to youtube and fap to h.264 hardware accelerated Chris Crocker | Jun 24 23:53 |
| schestowitz | His dad? | Jun 24 23:53 |
| schestowitz | I mean, his son? | Jun 24 23:54 |
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