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| Chips_B_Malroy | How do spell Access company? Is it spelled Abcess, or ASScess? | Jun 26 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | [23:56] <Chips_B_Malroy> ON the face of it, you would not know things are quite so bad, for visitors that is. | Jun 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I was never in VEgas | Jun 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm against gambling | Jun 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | It comes with drugs (or alcohol) and prostitution and lavish lifestyles | Jun 26 00:00 |
| schestowitz | My sister went to Vegas though | Jun 26 00:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its worth a visit even if you don't gamble | Jun 26 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and yes, there is a lot of that too | Jun 26 00:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Sorry Roy. I going to have to disagree there. Ive been watching the discourse (without commenting) and have looked into | Jun 26 00:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz the background myself. I personally think David is the one in the right here. I do not believe that story acurately reflects | Jun 26 00:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz the facts. | Jun 26 00:03 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> afriad you will soon tire of Lefty on your site | Jun 26 00:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Having cut through the "firewall of FUD" about David. I think he is a very nice chap which is what I believe about you too. | Jun 26 00:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz The one thing you and David have in common is that some of the people who are around you are less than honorable (IMHO) | Jun 26 00:06 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> be careful | Jun 26 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Lefty will turn on you | Jun 26 00:07 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] Had to install #Windows for a programming class at school. Not happy about that. Had a great #Linux installation running, too. | Jun 26 00:14 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26799 Is this a fork of KDE 3.5? | Jun 26 00:15 |
| Techrights | Title: kde 3.5 fork - trinity - MEPISlovers Forum .::. Size~: 105.54 KB | Jun 26 00:15 |
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| yuhong | BTW, the FSF boycotted Apple once for it's look and feel patents. | Jun 26 00:23 |
| yuhong | Which Apple was asserting. | Jun 26 00:24 |
| yuhong | It ended in 1995: | Jun 26 00:24 |
| yuhong | http://www.gnu.org/bulletins/bull18.html#SEC13 | Jun 26 00:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Former #Microsoft Executive: Microsoft Should Lay Off 30%-40% of Its Workforce http://ur1.ca/0dudm #resize | Jun 26 00:24 | |
| Techrights | Title: Former Microsoft Executive: Microsoft Should Lay Off 30%-40% of Its Workforce | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.49 KB | Jun 26 00:24 |
| yuhong | I knew this for while, but I finally got around to telling. | Jun 26 00:26 |
| yuhong | To be more precise, it was a LPF boycott that FSF was participating. | Jun 26 00:26 |
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| yuhong | Viruses need monocultures, targeted attacks don't. Guess which is more common in UNIXes in general. | Jun 26 00:39 |
| yuhong | And which is more common on Windows? | Jun 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Hi, yuhong | Jun 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz | I've just responded | Jun 26 00:40 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Jun 26 00:40 |
| yuhong | Hi. | Jun 26 00:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin it's him who came to me with accusations; I wanted nothing to do with that nonsense | Jun 26 00:42 | |
| yuhong | http://rdist.root.org/2010/05/03/why-buffer-overflow-exploitation-took-so-long-to-mature/ | Jun 26 00:43 |
| Techrights | Title: Why buffer overflow exploitation took so long to mature « root labs rdist .::. Size~: 24.71 KB | Jun 26 00:43 |
| yuhong | http://rdist.root.org/2010/05/05/why-buffer-overflow-exploitation-took-so-long-to-mature-part-2/ | Jun 26 00:43 |
| Techrights | Title: Why buffer overflow exploitation took so long to mature (part 2) « root labs rdist .::. Size~: 33.71 KB | Jun 26 00:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <Chips_B_Malroy> http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26799 Is this a fork of KDE 3.5? | Jun 26 00:43 |
| Techrights | Title: kde 3.5 fork - trinity - MEPISlovers Forum .::. Size~: 105.54 KB | Jun 26 00:43 |
| schestowitz | They have a sort of fork | Jun 26 00:43 |
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| schestowitz | I's called Trinity, yes | Jun 26 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Made some headlines recently | Jun 26 00:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin you ignored decades of systematic harassment against many people | Jun 26 00:43 | |
| yuhong | Interesting, huh. | Jun 26 00:44 |
| yuhong | Notice the impact of the x86 monoculture. | Jun 26 00:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I must say, I prefer KDE 3.5 on older slower laptops than 4.x, not saying 4.x is bad, just it seems to run too slow on olde stuff, if at all. | Jun 26 00:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @schestowitz the threats I've seen going against many people are a violation of the law. I don't engage with criminals | Jun 26 00:45 | |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: Tim has been lured in by the ubertroll | Jun 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | But... it's like with Costa | Jun 26 00:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I noticed,yes. | Jun 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand why Tim tries to get closer to those AstroTurfers | Jun 26 00:46 |
| schestowitz | And acts all cool with Costa, as if what he's doing is just a good joke | Jun 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Bear in mind that threats from the crook were diverted from person to person | Jun 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | He's an outlaw | Jun 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | It's like racketeering and it's against the law | Jun 26 00:47 |
| schestowitz | If you threaten someone without filing (like he threatened like 5 people last year), I think it's SLAPP | Jun 26 00:48 |
| schestowitz | I don't know US law though | Jun 26 00:48 |
| yuhong | My first real use of identi.ca, BTW: | Jun 26 00:48 |
| yuhong | http://identi.ca/yuhong/all | Jun 26 00:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, I hope for Tim that he does not give Lefty any way to indentify himself, or he will be in a world of hurt if he does. | Jun 26 00:48 |
| yuhong | Notice what I said about IBM mainframes. | Jun 26 00:48 |
| schestowitz | It's like saying, "I'll send thugs to your house" without doing it | Jun 26 00:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Im sure theres been plenty of allegations....ive recieved hundreds in regards to BN and you. Of course there's always two | Jun 26 00:48 | |
| schestowitz | It's no physical act but still an arrestable thing | Jun 26 00:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz sides to every story and I personally take as I find. If we look at this recent article for example... | Jun 26 00:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin you oughtn't play ball with Da Costa either | Jun 26 00:49 | |
| yuhong | BTW, some people avoid Vista/7 simply because XP is perfectly fine for them. | Jun 26 00:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz are we to believe David would ring Atlas's boss for no reason? David would know that Atlas would comment about it.. | Jun 26 00:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin those trolls try to 'shim in' | Jun 26 00:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin the typical 'civil war' trick. Don't be gullible. | Jun 26 00:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz secondly, the email Atlas does admit to sending, what was in that? that in itself makes a big difference and thirdly, do you | Jun 26 00:50 | |
| yuhong | I think 7 is overall better than XP in many ways. | Jun 26 00:50 |
| yuhong | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/06/150-million-windows-7-licenses.ars?comments=1 | Jun 26 00:51 |
| Techrights | Title: 150 million Windows 7 licenses have now been sold, reinforcing Windows 7's position as the best-selling operating system ever. .::. Size~: 52.16 KB | Jun 26 00:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin it's not worth discussing the whole thing; bottom line is you have a chronic SLAPPer. End here. | Jun 26 00:51 | |
| schestowitz | yuhong: good, Cha-ching. Have a cookie :0) | Jun 26 00:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I going have to side with Ender2070 on this one, Goblin, sorry. | Jun 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: you paste lies here | Jun 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | They didn't sell that | Jun 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | That's lies from Microsoft marketing | Jun 26 00:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz think that David would spent his time engaging in a "boss" war with Atlas? I wouldn't think so. | Jun 26 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | And I haven't patience for it, sorry | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Go paste that Microsoft PR in Roughly Drafted if they like it | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he can't read you | Jun 26 00:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "[_goblin] @schestowitz think that David would spent his time engaging in a "boss" war with Atlas? I wouldn't think so" well, Goblin, yes I believe he would. | Jun 26 00:53 |
| yuhong | Thinking about it, yes, I know about XP and Linux changes not being counted down. | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he can't read you | Jun 26 00:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> I know, but he will probably read the log | Jun 26 00:54 |
| yuhong | Even if the number is accurate, just because an OEM license is sold don't mean it is used. | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | goblin doesn't see E-mail threats | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | He's being fooled | Jun 26 00:54 |
| yuhong | So yes, be careful. | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | He hasn't seen the history aging decades, either | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | This man issues death threats of sort | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | *sorts | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I won't spend any time on it | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | I wanted to defend Brandon though | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause he was threatened many times by the ubertroll | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Tim doesn't know anything about this | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | He's being 'served' | Jun 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: waste of time | Jun 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I told you, it's a lie | Jun 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I have many posts explaining why | Jun 26 00:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Yes, and did not Lumpy post embarassing pictures of someone too? | Jun 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | I'm back to posting.. | Jun 26 00:56 |
| yuhong | Ok. | Jun 26 00:56 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes, he bought nakes photos from the guy's girlfriend | Jun 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | He's like some alley thug | Jun 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | /nakes/naked/ | Jun 26 00:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have no respect for Lumpy, at all. | Jun 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Bounties for dirt | Jun 26 00:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Tim a decent guy, I hope he watches his back in reguards to Lumpy | Jun 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jun 26 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I want to carry on posting | Jun 26 00:58 |
| schestowitz | This is just a waste of time :-) | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Not you | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | The discussion | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm working on the xbox post now | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Mostly quotes from the logs, including Ryan's | Jun 26 00:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah good, one of my favs | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I hate copyright on images, I can't use images that are good | Jun 26 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I only use pub-domain/GPL/CC | Jun 26 01:00 |
| schestowitz | So no RROD pictures :0( | Jun 26 01:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz "Don't be gullible." Believe me, Im not. I deal with deceptive people for a living. I merely take as I find. Since talking | Jun 26 01:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz sensibly to David, I have had nothing but politeness. And he's saying nothing to me to change my view on anything. | Jun 26 01:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz can I just ask though "Chonic SLAPPer"? I don't know the term... | Jun 26 01:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and in respect of "Da Costa" I wasn't aware I had played ball with him. Last time I wrote about him was to expose his nymshift | Jun 26 01:03 | |
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| yuhong | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/06/03/2237222/Clashing-Scores-In-the-HTML5-Compatibility-Test-Wars?art_pos=7 | Jun 26 01:04 |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | Clashing Scores In the HTML5 Compatibility Test Wars .::. Size~: 147.16 KB | Jun 26 01:04 |
| yuhong | Of course, the tests mentioned in this slashdot article are biased. | Jun 26 01:04 |
| yuhong | Of course, the tests mentioned in this slashdot article are deliberately biased. | Jun 26 01:04 |
| yuhong | Hopefully you already have covered this. | Jun 26 01:04 |
| yuhong | "The results reported here are selected with tongue in cheek: "Therefore, we'll also present shameless results from tests which have been carefully selected to give the results that the PR department has demanded."" | Jun 26 01:05 |
| yuhong | I mentioned that article BTW, because I thought it would be good to mention positive MS articles too. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| yuhong | That I mean the sales numbers, of course. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Why? | Jun 26 01:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sales numbers of windows are forced sales | Jun 26 01:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | windows tax | Jun 26 01:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | very hard to go to a local store here in USA and get anything without windows already on it | Jun 26 01:09 |
| yuhong | Yes, I already mentioned this. Not all OEM copies of Windows are actually used. | Jun 26 01:09 |
| yuhong | On the independence of the press: http://www.change.org/petitions/view/fully_fund_npr_and_pbs_2 | Jun 26 01:09 |
| Techrights | Title: Fully fund NPR and PBS | Change.org .::. Size~: 41.86 KB | Jun 26 01:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no, you are forced to buy it from local stores. Yes you can find stuff online without. But bear in mind, that stores like Best Buy, Frys, etc, deal in volume, and have the best sales. | Jun 26 01:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Its actually cheaper to buy an on sale laptop from these stores with windows than to buy online | Jun 26 01:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so mostly you are forced to buy windows even if you do not use it. The power of the monopoly | Jun 26 01:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, I think before I get embroiled in a debate about my credentials of character judgement (which is part of my profession).....with... | Jun 26 01:12 | |
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| yuhong | Similarly, if a package is installed by default, would the numbers from popularity-contest be useful? | Jun 26 01:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] something a little light...(hopefully) to raise the mood all round...so lets all just be friends: http://bit.ly/Jh2H6 | Jun 26 01:14 | |
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| yuhong | I was going to ask on the Windows blog how many of these sales are retail, but looks like somebody has already. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and the mandatory warning: Adult content....don't watch if you are under 18, easily offended or a Windows user. | Jun 26 01:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Good night all "smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast" | Jun 26 01:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thanks to www.linuxfund.org and www.askmonty.org for sponsoring the Community Leadership Summit! http://is.gd/d4fCI | Jun 26 01:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Xbox360 : New Casing, Same Faulty Design Underneath http://techrights.org/2010/06/25/ledless-rrods/ | Jun 26 01:45 | |
| Techrights | Title: Community Leadership Summit | 17th-18th July, 2010 - Portland, Oregon .::. Size~: 9.87 KB | Jun 26 01:46 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reuters: 'Dell [...] Estimated the Percentage of Commercial PC Users [on] Windows 7 as Still Being in “Single Digits.”' http://ur1.ca/0dv01 | Jun 26 01:50 | |
| Techrights | Title: Reuters: Dell [...] Estimated the Percentage of Commercial PC Users Who Have Updated to Microsofts Windows 7 as Still Being in “Single Digits.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.8 KB | Jun 26 01:50 |
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| subsonicb | hi there | Jun 26 02:01 |
| subsonicb | just wanted to leave here a couple of videos: | Jun 26 02:02 |
| subsonicb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ore8wQeVnX4 | Jun 26 02:02 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- Presentación de Trisquel 3.5 "Awen" .::. Size~: 83.45 KB | Jun 26 02:02 |
| subsonicb | and another one, funni (shame that sun has ended in the hands of oracle, though) | Jun 26 02:03 |
| subsonicb | its about java | Jun 26 02:03 |
| subsonicb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrfpnbGXL70 | Jun 26 02:03 |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- JavaZone Trailer: Java 4-ever .::. Size~: 92.58 KB | Jun 26 02:03 |
| subsonicb | best regards bye! | Jun 26 02:03 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIXcXoAEKY2PI3o8ssrReWvsPGcAD9GIL1KO0 | Jun 26 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Cheney has heart attack #6 | Jun 26 02:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Sued for #Patent Violations and Monday Seems Likely to End Stupid Patents http://ur1.ca/0dv7b #swpats #bilski | Jun 26 02:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Stevens is retiring | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Read the post | Jun 26 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | and being replaced with another Obama plant | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | It says it | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 26 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | probably friendly to the RIAA | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Biden heads this department | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Obama does the teleprompter 'thing' | Jun 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | [02:33] <DaemonFC> Cheney has heart attack #6 | Jun 26 02:41 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully the last | Jun 26 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | He's not dangerous anymore, but he is obnoxious | Jun 26 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | so yeah | Jun 26 02:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New JavaZone Trailer (as Ogg) http://techrights.org/2010/06/25/javazone-trailer/ | Jun 26 02:43 | |
| Techrights | Title: New JavaZone Trailer (as Ogg) | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.25 KB | Jun 26 02:43 |
| schestowitz | This video is kind of gay... | Jun 26 02:55 |
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| DaemonFC | uhhm | Jun 26 02:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Jabba on wheels: | Jun 26 02:59 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10404251.stm | Jun 26 02:59 |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Jun 26 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | "What are you boys up to?" | Jun 26 03:01 |
| schestowitz | What cowards: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100625/ap_on_hi_te/as_pakistan | Jun 26 03:02 |
| Techrights | Title: Pakistan scans Google, other sites for blasphemy - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 140.01 KB | Jun 26 03:02 |
| schestowitz | So much lack of confidence in their dogma | Jun 26 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | the six million dollar cat | Jun 26 03:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "William Windows" | Jun 26 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | Brrrrrooooooooowwww!!!! | Jun 26 03:03 |
| cubezzz | ? | Jun 26 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If you look at how many hotfixes Microsoft has released that you have to either manually download or request from them directly, for Windows 7..... | Jun 26 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | there's well over 50 serious issues that they've hidden so far for the first SP | Jun 26 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's just what you can see even | Jun 26 03:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178503/Hardware_expert_explains_iPhone_4_antenna_problem | Jun 26 03:07 |
| Techrights | Title: Hardware expert explains iPhone 4 antenna problem - Computerworld .::. Size~: 79.66 KB | Jun 26 03:07 |
| schestowitz | Fans might avoid it now | Jun 26 03:07 |
| schestowitz | And move on to Android | Jun 26 03:07 |
| schestowitz | Apple botched it | Jun 26 03:07 |
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| schestowitz | [03:06] <DaemonFC> that's just what you can see even | Jun 26 03:08 |
| schestowitz | True. But it's the most secure OS ever and it sold 134,000,000,000 copies so far, making it the hottest selling piece of moth | Jun 26 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Everything from memory leaks, stalled login windows, networking drivers causing BSODs, Bitlocker corrupting the drive..... | Jun 26 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | not trivial problems | Jun 26 03:08 |
| cubezzz | ummm | Jun 26 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have a feeling that if I had turned Bitlocker on, my Windows partition would have been wiped out by that storm | Jun 26 03:10 |
| schestowitz | FUD: http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100625/microsoft-comms-head-smacks-back-by-the-numbers-plus-a-rocky-inspired-internal-email/ | Jun 26 03:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Exec Lists Company's Successes by the Numbers | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 78.01 KB | Jun 26 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Galore | Jun 26 03:15 |
| schestowitz | And Swisher is still boosting Microsoft | Jun 26 03:15 |
| schestowitz | http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100622/what-to-make-of-the-microsoft-is-falling-and-it-cant-get-up-meme/ | Jun 26 03:15 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft: Reports of Its Impending Death Greatly Exaggerated | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 80.44 KB | Jun 26 03:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I will be in Bhopal Station after 10 hours. Going there for 1-2 days, Tweeting from Train. Anybody want SchoolOS DVD -> 9312166995 #bhopal | Jun 26 03:15 | |
| schestowitz | WSJ->murdoch | Jun 26 03:16 |
| schestowitz | http://jz10.java.no/ | Jun 26 03:19 |
| Techrights | Title: JavaZone 2010 .::. Size~: 9.9 KB | Jun 26 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Ironic | Jun 26 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Java NO | Jun 26 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: "Most politicians from either side either raise taxes or cut essential government services to the bone. Updike has managed to do a lot of both without telling us, adequately, why we should have our city taxes go up hundreds of dollars a year per family and expect the town government to do less for us in return. | Jun 26 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | To say that even I would make a better mayor than Updike isn't really doing me justice. We could appoint my cat and get nothing done *and* no tax increases. :) He's an unpleasant, contemptible, little worm of a man, and if we re-install Terry Abbett, we're just re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic." | Jun 26 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | the local paper quoting me :) | Jun 26 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | I wrote a pretty long attack on the mayor :P | Jun 26 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | his gross incompetence | Jun 26 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | and why we shouldn't be tricked into letting his predecessor back in | Jun 26 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 26 03:23 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 26 03:24 |
| schestowitz | They printed this? | Jun 26 03:24 |
| schestowitz | "He's an unpleasant, contemptible, little worm of a man"??????????/ | Jun 26 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like the town was doing great before Updike came along, it's just that with the overall state of things at the state and federal level, the mayor is acting as a magnifying glass for every problem heading this way anyway | Jun 26 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jun 26 03:24 |
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| cubezzz | I wonder if I could expand the memory on this thing via an ISA card | Jun 26 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | I guess what I mean is he could be sugar coating the turd, but instead he's just covering the turd with some rotten eggs | Jun 26 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 03:26 |
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| DaemonFC | "Everyone is out of work,. I know, let's raise their taxes" | Jun 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz | Chain effect with tree cutting | Jun 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz | Dukerap | Jun 26 03:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: depends /what/ taxes | Jun 26 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | state law says the power company has to trim those trees | Jun 26 03:28 |
| schestowitz | income tax might be ok, less tax on food | Jun 26 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | it wouldn't even cost the town anything | Jun 26 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | we just haven't been after them to do it | Jun 26 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Trash.... | Jun 26 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | He increased the trash removal tax $10 a month on every house | Jun 26 03:28 |
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| schestowitz | trash tax | Jun 26 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | then he shut down the recycling center | Jun 26 03:29 |
| schestowitz | We have something similar created here | Jun 26 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | and fired 100 people | Jun 26 03:29 |
| schestowitz | Monitor of trash weight | Jun 26 03:29 |
| schestowitz | Shutting down recycling is stupid | Jun 26 03:29 |
| schestowitz | It's like canceling DSL production and resuming dialup modems | Jun 26 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My opinion is that he was bribed | Jun 26 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | by that horrible Natures Fuel outfit that still hasn't gotten state environmental protection approval | Jun 26 03:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] This is How a Geek try to connect other geek in Train - http://bit.ly/99YjUE #geek #linux #train | Jun 26 03:30 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Watching the local news, the guy just mentioned a hurricane possibly forming that could head to the gulf | Jun 26 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | A hurricane in late June | Jun 26 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's never happened before, right? | Jun 26 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | nobody could see this coming | Jun 26 03:32 |
| *DaemonFC waits for what those southern bumpkins have to say about drilling for oil when it's RAINING oil on top of them | Jun 26 03:32 | |
| schestowitz | [03:31] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Watching the local news, the guy just mentioned a hurricane possibly forming that could head to the gulf | Jun 26 03:33 |
| schestowitz | With natural gas and pollution from BP's rectum in planet Earth | Jun 26 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Our state government just dumped Windows on the state's website | Jun 26 03:34 |
| schestowitz | I saw some video about the impact on farmers | Jun 26 03:34 |
| schestowitz | Some of that stuff is air bourne, so they fear hurricanes | Jun 26 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | apparently | Jun 26 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: in.gov switched from Windows Server 2003 and IIS | Jun 26 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | to Linux and Apache | Jun 26 03:35 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 26 03:35 |
| schestowitz | Netcraft proof? | Jun 26 03:35 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/ | Jun 26 03:35 |
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| DaemonFC | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.in.gov | Jun 26 03:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Site report for www.in.gov .::. Size~: 10.44 KB | Jun 26 03:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/06/22/illinois-virginia-indiana-dumping/ | Jun 26 03:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft Brings American EDGI to Illinois, Virginia, and Indiana | Techrights .::. Size~: 120.43 KB | Jun 26 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: This has been in the works for a while | Jun 26 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | their old site only worked well in MSIE | Jun 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz | 12-Feb-2010 is oldest | Jun 26 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | and sometimes, Firefox | Jun 26 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | and it was slow | Jun 26 03:36 |
| schestowitz | microsoft.com is low | Jun 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | For me at least | Jun 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | it's like they use a redirect | Jun 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | For all pages, no matter the type, there's huge lag | Jun 26 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's nice to not see asp and aspx | Jun 26 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | 5-10 secs, enough to be distracting | Jun 26 03:37 |
| cubezzz | it's probably scripts on the web site | Jun 26 03:37 |
| cubezzz | slashdot is way faster with javascript off | Jun 26 03:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.in.gov/core/index_pages/home_quicklinks.htmL | Jun 26 03:38 |
| Techrights | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 26 03:38 |
| schestowitz | Case sensitive | Jun 26 03:38 |
| schestowitz | So it's not just pretending to be *NIX | Jun 26 03:38 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, that's strange | Jun 26 03:39 |
| cubezzz | ping CUBEMAN.ORG works | Jun 26 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's nice to have a state website that works in Opera and Chrome | Jun 26 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | the old one had tons of problems | Jun 26 03:40 |
| cubezzz | I thought URL's weren't case sensitive? | Jun 26 03:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/event-announcment-php-%7C-osi-days-2010-asias-largest-php-conference-813008/ | Jun 26 03:41 |
| Techrights | Title: "Event Announcment: PHP | OSI Days 2010 - Asia's Largest PHP Conference" .::. Size~: 43.28 KB | Jun 26 03:41 |
| schestowitz | MSFT-sponsored | Jun 26 03:41 |
| cubezzz | maybe after the / | Jun 26 03:41 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Jun 26 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: They inherit the case sensitivity of the file system they are on | Jun 26 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Jun 26 03:41 |
| schestowitz | [03:39] <cubezzz> ping CUBEMAN.ORG works | Jun 26 03:41 |
| schestowitz | That's top level domains | Jun 26 03:41 |
| schestowitz | DNS | Jun 26 03:41 |
| cubezzz | right | Jun 26 03:42 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 26 03:42 |
| cubezzz | nite | Jun 26 03:43 |
| cubezzz | I just got up :) | Jun 26 03:43 |
| cubezzz | in theory, 486 can address 4 gigs of ram | Jun 26 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | and in practice? | Jun 26 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 03:45 |
| cubezzz | not sure | Jun 26 03:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm trying to figure that out now | Jun 26 03:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Google group still sucks #fail #googlegroup (redirecting). Same wit DOC, I have 3 google app and 1 gmail, 80% time it open gmail's doc | Jun 26 03:47 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonic-shifts/2010/06/08/drumbeats-the-tech-press-turns-on-microsoft-s-ballmer.html# | Jun 26 03:49 |
| Techrights | Title: Drumbeats: The Tech Press Turns on Microsoft's Ballmer - Newsweek .::. Size~: 36.81 KB | Jun 26 03:49 |
| cubezzz | some eduquest models had a maximum of 16 megs | Jun 26 03:49 |
| cubezzz | pretty dinky | Jun 26 03:49 |
| cubezzz | 386 cpu though | Jun 26 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | a fast 486 and 32 MB of RAM made a passable Windows 95 machine | Jun 26 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 03:51 |
| cubezzz | "Although it is physically possible to install more memory, the system will read 16MB maximum." | Jun 26 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | pentium was nice though | Jun 26 03:51 |
| cubezzz | ok, I'm at the limit already | Jun 26 03:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Need Student Internship for Project - "Classroom Video to SVG Converter" at Freedom Lab - http://bit.ly/bO5uCn #svg #delhi | Jun 26 03:52 | |
| Techrights | Title: need projects for students - oscontrib | Google Groups .::. Size~: 35.89 KB | Jun 26 03:52 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/25/AR2010062504155.html?hpid=moreheadlines | Jun 26 03:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/25/arizona.immigrants.drugs/ | Jun 26 04:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Arizona's Brewer: Most illegal immigrants are 'drug mules' - CNN.com .::. Size~: 36.06 KB | Jun 26 04:00 |
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| DaemonFC | "The company sponsoring the dot-xxx domain, the ICM Registry, said it had a vision of a red-light district in cyberspace that was a clean, well-lighted place, free of spam, viruses and credit card thieves. Content would be clearly labeled as adult and the whole neighborhood would be easy to block. Anyone offended by pornography could simply stay out." | Jun 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | yay, good clean porn | Jun 26 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | the way white god intended | Jun 26 04:04 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/technology/26domain.html?src=busln | Jun 26 04:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: 160,000 Android Phones Sold Per Day http://tcrn.ch/cHrt4V that's a run-rate of 60 million a year | Jun 26 04:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Opera 10.6 builds are getting quite good | Jun 26 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | even on Linux | Jun 26 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 26 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | the test builds of 10.5 which never made it were slow and full of bugs on Linux | Jun 26 04:16 |
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| tessier | 60M Linux phones per year. So are there more machines out there running Linux than Windows yet? | Jun 26 04:29 |
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| cubezzz | more devices maybe | Jun 26 05:01 |
| cubezzz | HDTVs, routers, old computers | Jun 26 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | "they can churn out cheap "reality TV" for next to nothing, market it to idiots, and fill it with advertising" | Jun 26 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | me explaining why there's so much of it | Jun 26 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | some reality TV is interesting, but it's the exception, not the rule | Jun 26 05:03 |
| cubezzz | I think paying for TV is funny | Jun 26 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | and reality TV is really a loose term | Jun 26 05:03 |
| cubezzz | period | Jun 26 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather watch a nature show than Jerry Springer | Jun 26 05:03 |
| cubezzz | of course | Jun 26 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | trailer trash throwing chairs at each other is not entertainment | Jun 26 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | especially when it's fake | Jun 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 05:04 |
| cubezzz | I watched TVO and WNED and the news | Jun 26 05:04 |
| cubezzz | all free on my UHF antenna | Jun 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can look out my window and see white trash throwing real chairs at each other, for real | Jun 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | and real police officers coming to arrest people after making a scene | Jun 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | and no advertising at all | Jun 26 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | mildly amusing, no commercials, free, and real | Jun 26 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: I don't get why people want cable TV | Jun 26 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | even among pay services | Jun 26 05:06 |
| cubezzz | I totally don't | Jun 26 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | all they do is get it from a satellite and put it on a coaxial cable network after compressing it further | Jun 26 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | a satellite TV service has better quality and less outages at least | Jun 26 05:07 |
| cubezzz | I get the 3 major American networks on UHF | Jun 26 05:07 |
| cubezzz | satellite is fine | Jun 26 05:07 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't pay for it though | Jun 26 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast packs more and more channels on existing copper | Jun 26 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | by compressing the hell out of them | Jun 26 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | looks ugly | Jun 26 05:08 |
| cubezzz | Comcast isn't very good | Jun 26 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | some channels even have compression artifacts at that point | Jun 26 05:08 |
| cubezzz | yes, Rogers cable did the same thing | Jun 26 05:08 |
| cubezzz | probably all cable companies do | Jun 26 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: It's the same as if I sent you a really big h.264 file, and you re-encode it to one 1/4th that size to get it to "stream" on low bandwidth connections | Jun 26 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's what you get with cable | Jun 26 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | satellite is about as expensive, but you at least get the original stream | Jun 26 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | cable also gives you satellite outages AND cable network outages | Jun 26 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 05:11 |
| cubezzz | with a 90 cm dish you can get FTA satellite for free | Jun 26 05:11 |
| cubezzz | so either UHF antenna or FTA satellite is way better | Jun 26 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed in the last 6 weeks or so I've had my satellite go down twice due to storms, and it was up again within 20 minutes both times | Jun 26 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast goes down for hours, at least once a month | Jun 26 05:12 |
| cubezzz | well we are still analog/digital | Jun 26 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast lines run on the same power lines that are getting knocked down by trees | Jun 26 05:13 |
| cubezzz | so even if the digital goes down for that channel I can still go analog | Jun 26 05:13 |
| cubezzz | in some cases | Jun 26 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that with DirecTV I can usually get the MPEG-2 SD channels even if my MPEG-4 HD channels go out | Jun 26 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | so I have my guide set to list both | Jun 26 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | so outages usually aren't even total | Jun 26 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | I just have to watch SD for 20 minutes | Jun 26 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | MPEG-2 seems to be more error resistant | Jun 26 05:15 |
| cubezzz | it's less compession | Jun 26 05:15 |
| cubezzz | UHF is no compression, AFAIK | Jun 26 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | less efficient than MPEG-4, but you have to get a better signal with MPEG-4 or else you lose it | Jun 26 05:16 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, UHF television via the antenna has Clearest HD possible – no compression | Jun 26 05:18 |
| cubezzz | plus it's free | Jun 26 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but the bandwidth requirements are enormous | Jun 26 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | and it's illegal in the US | Jun 26 05:18 |
| cubezzz | you realize I get ABC, NBC and CBS from Buffalo? | Jun 26 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I thought they outlawed analog transmissions | Jun 26 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | there are none in Indiana | Jun 26 05:19 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, I'm watching Wimbledon in HD on NBC tomorrow :) | Jun 26 05:19 |
| cubezzz | it's digital of course | Jun 26 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | digital probably meaning MPEG-2 | Jun 26 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://doc-apps.in.gov/demo/wanted/Most_Wantedlist_public.asp | Jun 26 05:22 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 26 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2002/apr/loaf/ | Jun 26 05:23 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, there are uncompressed digital signals | Jun 26 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | all here are MPEG | Jun 26 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I figured they all were | Jun 26 05:25 |
| cubezzz | Non-compressed digital signals can be rated by "sampling rate" and "bit depth" | Jun 26 05:25 |
| cubezzz | there's also L band | Jun 26 05:26 |
| cubezzz | video might always be compressed though | Jun 26 05:28 |
| cubezzz | even via UHF | Jun 26 05:28 |
| cubezzz | i think you guys have it worse than us | Jun 26 05:29 |
| cubezzz | ATSC signals in the USA support the "broadcast flag" | Jun 26 05:29 |
| cubezzz | probably there are ways around it | Jun 26 05:29 |
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| DaemonFC | didn't the FCC get rid of that? | Jun 26 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | the flag? | Jun 26 05:31 |
| cubezzz | not sure | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | or is it just not mandated | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's not mandated | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Media Center obeys it | Jun 26 05:32 |
| cubezzz | naturally :) | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | other Media Center software might or might not | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | AverMedia's doesn't | Jun 26 05:32 |
| cubezzz | I think older tv tuner cards don't | Jun 26 05:32 |
| cubezzz | before 2005 | Jun 26 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's not supported on the card I believe | Jun 26 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | the software sees it and either obeys it or doesn't | Jun 26 05:33 |
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| DaemonFC | "That did not satisfy religious groups that opposed the dot-xxx domains, fearing they would make pornography even more prevalent online." | Jun 26 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | How much more prevalent can it get? | Jun 26 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | and what sites has she been browsing where you can get away from it if you want to? | Jun 26 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 26 05:34 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, seems like yet another reason not to trust closed source software | Jun 26 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Windows Media Center sees it and makes you install Microsoft Playready DRM software | Jun 26 05:35 |
| cubezzz | it's unencrypted and you still can't record it? Come on... | Jun 26 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | it won't let you watch or record that channel or program until then | Jun 26 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | it's why Windows Media Center is worthless | Jun 26 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | you still have to find other media center software that doesn't obey that stupid flag | Jun 26 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20120a693cc1d970b-500wi | Jun 26 05:39 |
| Techrights | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jun 26 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | prison loaf doesn't look bad | Jun 26 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutraloaf | Jun 26 05:40 |
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| DaemonFC | hey cubezzz, the local police are fucking stupid | Jun 26 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | how stupid you ask? | Jun 26 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | I was on house arrest when I was 16, right? | Jun 26 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | they call your home, you have to answer | Jun 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't, you get an arrest warrant | Jun 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | apparently they at least at that point, had never heard of call forwarding and cell phones | Jun 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | so whenever the system called and made me hit a button, I could just get it on my cell phone and it said I was at home | Jun 26 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | I was in Ohio one time when it called | Jun 26 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | the cell phone companies give them a list of who has a cell phone | Jun 26 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | but you can buy a prepaid phone with cash | Jun 26 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: It's best to just let people think they've outsmarted you sometimes | Jun 26 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | the probation officer was all giddy and rubbing it in my face that I couldn't get off probation until I came up with $500 | Jun 26 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't tell her I had about $1,000 cash in my wallet while she was sitting there gloating | Jun 26 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | so I came in on her day off and paid the fee while she wasn't there to do anything about it | Jun 26 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | then I got a call the next monday from her telling me to get my ass over there | Jun 26 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | I hung up on her | Jun 26 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | people who enjoy manipulating and controlling other people go for those jobs | Jun 26 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | because the buck stops with them | Jun 26 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uILlAVWHHLM | Jun 26 05:51 |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 26 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na7SCYRMFmw | Jun 26 05:58 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4TxjzC4iBY&feature=related | Jun 26 06:03 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x66HWNjMPmQ | Jun 26 06:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Hillary love sme | Jun 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9045/photo0004g.jpg | Jun 26 06:47 |
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| DaemonFC | not bad for a phone I guess | Jun 26 06:47 |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-antenna-avoid-holding-it-in-this-way.ars | Jun 26 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | haha | Jun 26 07:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On train going to work and then have a long journey afterwards. | Jun 26 07:05 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/microsoft-mobile-strategy-clear-as-mud/#comments My last comment over on Tim's site, for the Lefty troll. I don't want to get into another long debate with a troll. | Jun 26 07:21 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But it does seem that posting about Acess really hit the sore spot. | Jun 26 07:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *Access | Jun 26 07:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Time to stop posting there until Goblin bans the troll, if he does. | Jun 26 07:23 |
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| cubezzz | hey Chips_B_Malroy | Jun 26 07:32 |
| cubezzz | oops, gone | Jun 26 07:32 |
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| cubezzz | you know, I'm starting to like icewm | Jun 26 07:48 |
| cubezzz | of course it's old icewm for 486 but still | Jun 26 07:48 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jun 26 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Maxthon is ditching the IE engine | Jun 26 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | and going to use Webkit instead | Jun 26 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Maxthon/3.0.12.8 Safari/533.1 | Jun 26 07:56 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, Duke Energy owns dukepowersucks.com | Jun 26 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 08:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My day at work has already been surprisingly productive | Jun 26 09:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A Timeline Of How The Entertainment Industry Made The File Sharing Issue Much Worse For Itself - http://bit.ly/9c0XFi good analysis #sharing | Jun 26 09:23 | |
| Techrights | Title: A Timeline Of How The Entertainment Industry Made The File Sharing Issue Much Worse For Itself | Techdirt .::. Size~: 43.06 KB | Jun 26 09:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mozilla Wins The American Business Awards “Most Innovative Company of the Year” - http://bit.ly/ci6BpN surprising, but welcome #mozilla | Jun 26 09:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Forget football fever, Dr who tonight, last episode.. | Jun 26 09:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://timothyblee.com/2010/06/24/illegal-driving-vs-illegal-immigration/ | Jun 26 10:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @fontana perhaps OIN is modeling itself on #fsf by establishing an associate membership program :-) | Jun 26 10:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/22/worlds_no_1_hacker/ | Jun 26 10:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1719257/thunderbird-31 | Jun 26 11:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT @glynmoody: A Timeline Of How The Entertainment Industry Made The File Sharing Issue Much Wors... http://bit.ly/9c0XFi | Jun 26 11:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] IBM's Linux VP is still messing about with the most draconian software out there. http://ur1.ca/0dy5t #ibm #hypephone #hypepad | Jun 26 11:49 | |
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| schestowitz | In guess some people will think that I'm ranting rather than simply making the observation that at IBM software freedom still does not matter much. | Jun 26 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Unless it makes $$$ | Jun 26 11:52 |
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| cubezzz | it's interesting, basiclinux requires a lot of hand-turning | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | I'm still not completely happy with it | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | but it's about 90% there | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? IBM? | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | they have a long history in computers | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | some good, some bad | Jun 26 12:06 |
| cubezzz | the good: generally decent engineering | Jun 26 12:08 |
| cubezzz | there old PCs do last a long time | Jun 26 12:08 |
| cubezzz | their | Jun 26 12:08 |
| cubezzz | e.g. no batteries leaking onto the motherboard, stuff like that | Jun 26 12:08 |
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| cubezzz | IBM kind of messed up on PCs on the software side | Jun 26 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | what specs? | Jun 26 12:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #hypephone 4 has reception issues, but it blends well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8sxpK4_iA&feature=digest [flash] | Jun 26 12:16 | |
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| cubezzz | 486SLC2, 16 megs of ram, ATI VGA Wonder+ 512K dram | Jun 26 12:17 |
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| cubezzz | oh and 240 meg Quantum hard drive | Jun 26 12:19 |
| cubezzz | everything works | Jun 26 12:19 |
| cubezzz | on the other side of the coin quite a few Amigas had batteries that leaked | Jun 26 12:20 |
| cubezzz | Commodore rather foolishly used 3.6 volt NiCd batteries | Jun 26 12:21 |
| cubezzz | they leak corrosive fluids, which can destroy ICs and copper traces | Jun 26 12:22 |
| cubezzz | Lithium batteries seem safe though | Jun 26 12:23 |
| cubezzz | sometimes early motherboards had off-board battery holders | Jun 26 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mwJsGbTkOk&feature=digest | Jun 26 12:29 |
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| cubezzz | for pure longevity though, you got to give kodos to IBM PCs | Jun 26 12:29 |
| cubezzz | they didn't over-heat, the PSU lasted a long time | Jun 26 12:30 |
| cubezzz | of course, they were also quite expensive | Jun 26 12:30 |
| amarsh04 | was it a hardware design philosophy of "don't make it fail due to known issues"? e.g. using stable parts, soldering that was done in processes designed to avoid dry joints... | Jun 26 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGyXkIz598&feature=digest | Jun 26 12:34 |
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| cubezzz | very early PC AT's weren't that great | Jun 26 12:37 |
| cubezzz | but their eduquest series were like tanks | Jun 26 12:37 |
| cubezzz | I've done no maintainence on this eduquest 35 and really the don't thing that doesn't work is the double speed sony cdrom | Jun 26 12:38 |
| cubezzz | nicad batteries have been around a long time, people should know by now they aren't too good for computers | Jun 26 12:39 |
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| cubezzz | I'd consider cdroms of _any_ type to have a high failure rate | Jun 26 12:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Jack Abramoff has just gone working for a pizzeria after his crime and lobbying with Microsoft | Jun 26 12:44 | |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:08 2010 | Jun 26 13:02 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Jun 26 13:02 | |
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| oiaohm | Hmm interesting cubezzz has not re appeared. | Jun 26 13:38 |
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| oiaohm | Hi cubezzz | Jun 26 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Early XT were battery less. | Jun 26 13:45 |
| cubezzz | yes I know | Jun 26 13:45 |
| cubezzz | c64, vic-20, PET were also battery free | Jun 26 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Battieries have been bains of motherboards. | Jun 26 13:47 |
| oiaohm | I have seen some new motherboards killed by lithioms as well. | Jun 26 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Ie leaks. | Jun 26 13:48 |
| cubezzz | yes, I just did a little research on the subject | Jun 26 13:48 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Jun 26 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Older lithiums seams to have a slow leak and be self sealing. cubezzz | Jun 26 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Ie the white power crap. | Jun 26 13:49 |
| cubezzz | yes, I see that on nicad batteries | Jun 26 13:49 |
| cubezzz | and alkaline too | Jun 26 13:49 |
| cubezzz | e.g. AA's | Jun 26 13:49 |
| oiaohm | No different white power crap. | Jun 26 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Leaking lithium creates it own patch. | Jun 26 13:50 |
| oiaohm | nicad and alkalines eat the metal casing to make the white stuff. | Jun 26 13:50 |
| cubezzz | hmmm I thought lithium batteries were safe, or at least safer | Jun 26 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie clean the white power of the lithium and the metal under is fine. Not true for the alkaline or nicads. Both of them can make the hole larger. | Jun 26 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Safer if they are not defective. | Jun 26 13:52 |
| oiaohm | Basically they last 12 months you are good for 5 to 6 | Jun 26 13:53 |
| oiaohm | And before board damage most likely 10 | Jun 26 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Compared to nicads and alkaline were you are lucky to have a safe out to 4 | Jun 26 13:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM | Jun 26 13:57 |
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| oiaohm | Its really simple to poke fun at the BP oil mess. | Jun 26 14:01 |
| oiaohm | People have to wake up all the simple to get oil is gone. | Jun 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBENlJfZ-f8&feature=digest | Jun 26 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: not yet | Jun 26 14:11 |
| oiaohm | All the simple stuff is gone. schestowitz | Jun 26 14:12 |
| oiaohm | The high presure fields that are risky to tap are about all that is left in liquid. | Jun 26 14:12 |
| cubezzz | tons of better ways to get energy | Jun 26 14:22 |
| cubezzz | I like solar | Jun 26 14:22 |
| cubezzz | should be good for a few million years | Jun 26 14:22 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: nuclear | Jun 26 14:26 |
| oiaohm | nuclear we have no clue how to get rid of waste | Jun 26 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Nuclear is one of those nasty things you always end up with more than what you started with. | Jun 26 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Of course more unless stuff. | Jun 26 14:29 |
| cubezzz | solar, believe me :) | Jun 26 14:29 |
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| oiaohm | cubezzz: don't forget tides | Jun 26 14:41 |
| oiaohm | They are like clock work. | Jun 26 14:42 |
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| oiaohm | I cannot remember how many tons of waste one reactor produces over its live span vs kg of nuclear fuel used. | Jun 26 14:49 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Jun 26 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Hi sebsebseb | Jun 26 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hi | Jun 26 14:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Sugar OLPC workshop in Goa 28th June - 2nd July 2010 http://post.ly/kqNn | Jun 26 14:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bogus Software Patents Used Against #Google Because #Android ( #Linux )+Services Are Winning http://ur1.ca/0dzzx #swpats | Jun 26 15:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @and3k: 10 ways how to contribute to #floss without being a programmer http://ur1.ca/0dzij #fs #foss #gnu #linux #ubuntu #kde #free | Jun 26 15:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why is Florian Müller Sometimes Promoting #Microsoft ’s Agenda? http://ur1.ca/0e0bs Florian Müller supports NEON’s case against #IBM | Jun 26 15:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] 56 great quotes from WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/9yc1zC | Jun 26 16:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another look at the problems #Windows is having and why the rest of #Microsoft is very much hinged upon Windows http://ur1.ca/0e0qa | Jun 26 16:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Coreopsis [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/yRgZD | Jun 26 16:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Peace campaigner, 85, classified by police as 'domestic extremist' | UK news | The Guardian http://tinyurl.com/2df7na6 | Jun 26 17:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Pino and Gwibber better use the GNOME keyring... | Jun 26 17:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #WDW #AdventurersClub recreated with #HalfLife engine!! http://tinyurl.com/39w5phh #mightyismyw00t | Jun 26 17:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @glynmoody the Chumby One was announced september 2009, availability october. I ordered mine december http://is.gd/d5f7I | Jun 26 18:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus Moving Linux computers at the KIPP San Francisco Bay Academy in San Francisco. New year, new teachers, new computer needs | Jun 26 18:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @satipera: Kenneth van Wyk "security expert" essentially says that GNU/Linux is secure by obscurity. http://cli.gs/Gn61G #fud #nutter | Jun 26 18:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Arriving in about half an hour | Jun 26 19:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Today Ben (Drums), Jim (Guitar) and I are rehearsing for the first time together as Severed Fifth. Can't wait! \m/ | Jun 26 19:29 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/37991672#notice-38233641 "Is this gentleman acting in good faith, pro FLOSS ??? I have my doubts..." | Jun 26 19:32 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Vatican horrified that it is not, in fact, above the law http://is.gd/d5hxZ | Jun 26 19:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | the list of open source licenses in opera:about is getting longer | Jun 26 19:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I think quantum mechanics is a pretty cool guy. eћ equals 2meμB and doesnt afraid of anything. | Jun 26 19:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/26/1702273/florida-gop-risks-hispanic-anger.html | Jun 26 19:50 |
| Techrights | Title: Florida GOP risks Hispanic anger with Arizona-like crackdown - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com .::. Size~: 83.58 KB | Jun 26 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | "This is a human right issue,'' he said. "They don't enjoy the same rights and privileges that you and I do. The solution is to enforce the laws that currently exist and to discourage people from coming here to `find a better life' when in fact they just come here and are victimized.'' | Jun 26 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 26 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h3GtZWT88dhVvgkbcDKaUuHG2ahwD9GJ1EL80 | Jun 26 19:54 |
| Techrights | Title: The Associated Press: Palin decries 'Dumpster divers' at Calif. campus .::. Size~: 10.36 KB | Jun 26 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | About 100 protesters stood outside on the campus's leafy grounds raising up a Sarah Palin-shaped pinata and signs lettered "Spill, Baby, Spill" and "Open The Books," and chanting about school budget cuts. | Jun 26 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 26 19:56 |
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| DaemonFC | well, shows you what kind of health insurance Cheney has | Jun 26 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | had that been most people, they would have gotten him discharged from the ER with an $8,000 hospital bill after about an hour | Jun 26 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | what's weird is that even though Mandriva is not responding to anyone, new packages are continuing to be built for Cooker | Jun 26 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | has anyone mentioned that? | Jun 26 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | seems like all the lights aren't out | Jun 26 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 26 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Small world in Linuxl..... | Jun 26 21:08 |
| schestowitz | "@tuxtweaks are you the same "Linerd" I knew in 2007? IIRC, it was "Linnerd"" | Jun 26 21:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FSDaily has been down for almost 2 days now. I wonder what's wrong. [via @tuxtweaks ] | Jun 26 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah, it's tricky at Mandriva | Jun 26 21:09 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: BBC is stupid | Jun 26 21:10 |
| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/177117 "so you get the experience first-hand that he's not half the curmudgeon they make him out to be (which is sad, really- it's like missing the point about gandhi's revolution because of his outfit)" | Jun 26 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Outside the UK message when I tried downloading the Dr. Who game | Jun 26 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | put the download URL in "DaveProxy" and bam | Jun 26 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 21:10 |
| schestowitz | "@openuniverse RIchard is gentle and polite. There's this daemonisaton tactic sometimes used against judges, where u rile them up for 'dirt'" | Jun 26 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/330/95959077.png | Jun 26 21:12 |
| schestowitz | RMS being daemonised | Jun 26 21:12 |
| schestowitz | I had this done to me too | Jun 26 21:12 |
| schestowitz | People try to portray me as "dangerous" | Jun 26 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: get kde | Jun 26 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5585/10737419.png | Jun 26 21:13 |
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| DaemonFC | downloading both the games | Jun 26 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | do they really think people are this dumb? | Jun 26 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'm in the UK now apparently | Jun 26 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | only took me a trip through Google | Jun 26 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | 5 seconds | Jun 26 21:16 |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Jun 26 21:17 | |
| *DaemonFC asks for the game in a poorly impersonated British accent | Jun 26 21:17 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think those state-level anti-illegal alien laws are going to spread quickly | Jun 26 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | as each state passes them and flushes the illegal aliens out of their state | Jun 26 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | the only complaint I have is that none of them fine employers a million dollars per incident | Jun 26 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | employers will still hire the illegal aliens as long as the laws only go after the illegal aliens one by one | Jun 26 21:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Entryism Watch: Australia’s Largest ISP Dumps #GNU #Linux Mirror Months After Putting #Microsoft in Charge http://ur1.ca/0e2mn | Jun 26 21:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | what's really going to happen, is now employers will threaten to call the state police if there's any problems out of their workers | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | get them all deported | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | "We suddenly became aware of an immigration issue" | Jun 26 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | "Company X obeys the law!" | Jun 26 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | the companies hiring illegal immigrants might have been the ones behind these laws | Jun 26 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | gives them a way to scare their workers into taking less pay and working harder | Jun 26 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 26 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | a couple of my Top 10 reasons to elect Stoffel for Sheriff popped up on this guys blog | Jun 26 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | "Who wouldn't try to hide Mayor Updike's support?" | Jun 26 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | "Since he spent nearly $60,000 in the primary, he needs the extra pay when he becomes sheriff to reimburse himself." | Jun 26 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 26 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The mayor, a long time friend of his, endorsed him before he could shut him up | Jun 26 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | and the local papers ran with it :D | Jun 26 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Updike endorsements are not highly sought after right now | Jun 26 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | he's only in office because there's no way to impeach him | Jun 26 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | (Well, there is, but all his friends are on the city council, so fat chance) | Jun 26 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I should run for city council | Jun 26 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | first order of business, introduce an ordinance to impeach Updike | Jun 26 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | force an up or down vote on it | Jun 26 21:33 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.chainswecanbelievein.org/comikaze/comics/00000267.jpg | Jun 26 21:35 |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jun 26 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chainswecanbelievein.org/comikaze/comics/00000269.jpg | Jun 26 21:36 |
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| DaemonFC | Cap and Trade, we'll push to pass, you won't mind seven dollar gas | Jun 26 21:36 |
| *DaemonFC likes that | Jun 26 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chainswecanbelievein.org/comikaze/comics/00000271.jpg | Jun 26 21:37 |
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| schestowitz | re RMS: "yeah. unfortunately most of the times he says 'this isn't a good idea" or more likely "you shouldn't..." people turn it into an order or a commandment, to prove he's unreasonable" http://280.status.net/notice/177277 | Jun 26 21:42 |
| Techrights | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Saturday, 26-Jun-10 20:02:58 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.98 KB | Jun 26 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Still looking for RMS 'dirt'\ | Jun 26 21:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @partimus Moved 4 Linux computers & 12 monitors at this public middle school. Getting ready for the new school year | Jun 26 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | They love posting a video of him picking his toe | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gas stations in Indiana used to buy cheap gas that was too low-octane to even burn | Jun 26 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | then doctor it up with ethanol | Jun 26 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | they got to ruin your car engine, kill your gas mileage, AND claim a "green" tax rebate for it | Jun 26 21:44 |
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| DaemonFC | the stuff would literally eat your fuel system, from fuel hoses right down to the gaskets in the engine | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | and some times the ethanol dislodges fuel tank deposits and clogs your fuel injectors with them | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | lots of stations ended up getting sued, and the government put a limit of 5% ethanol in 87 octane gas | Jun 26 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | (it was 15% | Jun 26 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I finally came to the conclusion that the only stations in town not doing this were the Shell station on the other end of town, and the Citgo station about 6 blocks from here | Jun 26 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of cars, another sensor in mine seems to be shorting out | Jun 26 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | it keeps flashing the "air bag" warning light, but sometimes it doesn't | Jun 26 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | I may try pulling the negative battery cable and see if it forgets about that for a while | Jun 26 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's a great way to sell an old car with sporadic warning lights flashing btw :) | Jun 26 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes you'll get hundreds of miles before the sensor shorts again and the ECU thinks there's a problem | Jun 26 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | the diagnostic system on cars doesn't seem to have improved, schestowitz | Jun 26 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | have you noticed this? | Jun 26 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | it just tends to spit out false warnings over more systems now | Jun 26 21:52 |
| *DaemonFC suspects it's a ruse to get you to pay the dealer $60 + a new sensor at 300% markup | Jun 26 21:52 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Also, the factory car alarms are a joke | Jun 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | I figured out how to get in without setting them off | Jun 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | you hit the hood release and disconnect the battery before you pull the door lock switch | Jun 26 21:54 |
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| DaemonFC | I ended up getting into my mom's car with a crow bar, a blood pressure cuff, and a shishkabob holder | Jun 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | without setting the alarm off | Jun 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | now there's some GM quality for you | Jun 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | blood pressure cuff? | Jun 26 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you stuff it in the door and inflate it | Jun 26 21:56 |
| schestowitz | GM is now FM | Jun 26 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | then you take the crow bar out | Jun 26 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | it holds the door open about 2 inches | Jun 26 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 26 21:56 |
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| DaemonFC | gives you enough room to insert a probe of some sort and hit the door release | Jun 26 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | though that will set off the alarm | Jun 26 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | so you use the probe to pull the hood release, open the hood, disconnect the battery, then use the probe to open the lock | Jun 26 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | and the alarm won't sound | Jun 26 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | the factory alarm system is pretty disingenuous | Jun 26 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I could also have used my lock picking set on it | Jun 26 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | but that would have set off the alarm | Jun 26 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord was trying to get into my neighbor's apartment one day but couldn't find his master key | Jun 26 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | so I ended up picking the locks for him | Jun 26 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 26 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Indiana has weird laws regarding those | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | lock picking tools that is | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | you can legally buy or sell them, but you can't legally possess them | Jun 26 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 26 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're a state-licensed locksmith | Jun 26 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | so licensed locksmiths can sell you a set and then you're immediately breaking the law the minute you take possession of them | Jun 26 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6130 | Jun 26 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC | "Got the call today from the dealer, they have to replace the front passenger seat, sensors malfunctioned and the only fix is a new seat assembly. They said I will have it back tomorrow." | Jun 26 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, yeah | Jun 26 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jun 26 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | not only no, but hell no | Jun 26 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | the light can just stay on | Jun 26 22:05 |
| WireWulf | laters all | Jun 26 22:06 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Jun 26 22:07 | |
| DaemonFC | they rig these cars so that every repair costs 3 times as much labor as it should | Jun 26 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | no matter what you're trying to get to, it's always behind 3 other things that take forever to remove | Jun 26 22:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #AstroTurf Employees Comment on Predictions of Microsoft Doom – Using Talking Points, Without Disclosure http://ur1.ca/0e2tt | Jun 26 22:08 | |
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| yuhong | Off-topic, but: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1113243&start=80 | Jun 26 22:23 |
| Techrights | Title: The switch from firing employees to direct response - Ars Technica OpenForum .::. Size~: 33.54 KB | Jun 26 22:23 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I might grow a beard | Jun 26 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | just for the hell of it | Jun 26 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | plus it'll make me seem more authoritative | Jun 26 22:31 |
| tessier | To whom? | Jun 26 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | to all | Jun 26 22:32 |
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| *DaemonFC formats schestowitz's hard drive and gives him a lovely dual boot of Windows Vista and Ubuntu Christian Edition | Jun 26 22:36 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: instead shave the head | Jun 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz | And get your fingers tattooed | Jun 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Nobody would mess with you anymore | Jun 26 22:42 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Yay Ghana beat USA 2 1 :) | Jun 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jun 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | You're happy? | Jun 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Ghabuntu will cheer | Jun 26 22:53 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm? | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODM2NQ | Jun 26 22:54 |
| Techrights | Title: [Phoronix] Mozilla Spots Massive Performance Regression In GCC .::. Size~: 17.74 KB | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: don't like the US? | Jun 26 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes I didn't want USA to win | Jun 26 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | to much hype when it comes to USA | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | You "anti American" | Jun 26 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 26 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | Americans are ok | Jun 26 22:54 |
| sebsebseb | I just didn't want them to win the football :) | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Just playin' w/ you | Jun 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: soccer | Jun 26 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Not football | Jun 26 22:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: tommorow should be interesting when it comes to world cup | Jun 26 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Opera switched over to GCC 4.4 finally, in the 10.x series | Jun 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | they were using GCC 3.2 I think | Jun 26 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | part of the reason for the massive speed up no doubt | Jun 26 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC | yes, GCC 4.5 is having terrible performance regressions | Jun 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | you can see that in any Linux distro that has been compiled with it | Jun 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | OpenSuse 11.3 builds for example | Jun 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's best to just stay on 4.4.x until it gets sorted out | Jun 26 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's not really news | Jun 26 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | in the meantime, Clang is getting better | Jun 26 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's still way behind GCC though | Jun 26 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | for now | Jun 26 23:01 |
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| DaemonFC | it's faster at compiling, but the binaries it produces are far less optimized | Jun 26 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I'm thinking the BSDs are playing political bullshit when they're trying to move over from GCC | Jun 26 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably also a major reason for OS X being so slow | Jun 26 23:02 |
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| DaemonFC | they switched over from GCC a while back and now the latest versions of OS X are way slower | Jun 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz | url? | Jun 26 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | for? | Jun 26 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | look at the Phoronix test suite spanning OS X 10.4, 10.5, and 10.6 | Jun 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's been getting slower as they compile more and more of the system with Clang | Jun 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | though maybe not the only reason, Clang is probably a major part of that | Jun 26 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Compiling the system with Clang instead of GCC will end up decreasing performance of most programs by 10-15% | Jun 26 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | some more than others | Jun 26 23:06 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 26 23:07 |
| schestowitz | opera | Jun 26 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few oddball cases where Clang is faster | Jun 26 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | but it's an exception | Jun 26 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The DEB file will mention build environment they used | Jun 26 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | 9.x was Fedora 4 and GCC 3.2 I believe | Jun 26 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6953 | Jun 26 23:09 |
| Techrights | Title: WineHQ Bugzilla – Bug 6953 – SecuROM thinks wine is a CDROM emulator .::. Size~: 38.77 KB | Jun 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | YAY!!! | Jun 26 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's blocking 1.2 | Jun 26 23:10 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 26 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | means a lot of games with SecuROM will be working when 1.2 is out | Jun 26 23:10 |
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| DaemonFC | the problem with SecuROM is that you have to get the game installed before you can find a no disc patch, sometimes | Jun 26 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | so if they can get SecuROM to shut up long enough for me to install the game, I'll be happy | Jun 26 23:11 |
| *DaemonFC is going to log in and use one of his votes on this | Jun 26 23:13 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think Mandriva is dumping their physical inventory | Jun 26 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | trying to anyway | Jun 26 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm assigning all my votes to the copy protection bugs | Jun 26 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 26 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What I don't get is why they insist on breaking Win32 software when the patch to fix Win32 software will break something for Win16 | Jun 26 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | shouldn't an app released this year take priority over something 15 years old? | Jun 26 23:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] All I need is an excuse. http://is.gd/d5u5l- | Jun 26 23:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: How do I get Flash to recognize my webcam microphone without Pulseaudio? | Jun 26 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | for that matter, how do I make Cheese work in KDE? | Jun 26 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | KDE has been ignoring these kinds of use cases for some time | Jun 26 23:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Big Polluter has finally found tools for collecting oil from the Gulf http://ur1.ca/0e392 | Jun 26 23:32 | |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I'm assigning all my votes to the copy protection bugs | Jun 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "copy protection" is a euphemism | Jun 26 23:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/google-and-the-bells/6732 | Jun 26 23:54 |
| Techrights | Title: Google and the Bells | ZDNet .::. Size~: 130.35 KB | Jun 26 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jun 26 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's meant to be a euphemism | Jun 26 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | and it's really the butt of a bad joke | Jun 26 23:56 |
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