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eduardoit has happenedJun 29 00:00
ender2070they haven't distributed rpcsrc-4.0 since 1984Jun 29 00:00
eduardothey don't need to make a new release if people pull from latest cvs/svn/git/whateverJun 29 00:00
cubezzzyeah I suggest thatJun 29 00:00
cubezzzgit clone git://sourceware.org/git/glibc.gitJun 29 00:00
cubezzzif you recallJun 29 00:01
ender2070cubezzz, LISTENJun 29 00:01
ender2070I DID THAT, I GREPPED AND READ THE 'LICENSES' FILE, ALL OF WHICH YOU DID NOT DOJun 29 00:01
cubezzzI didJun 29 00:01
cubezzzI got it right hereJun 29 00:01
ender2070then you would see the licenseJun 29 00:01
ender2070the non-free non-bsd licenseJun 29 00:02
cubezzzthe 1984 very liberal licenseJun 29 00:03
cubezzztape media? :)Jun 29 00:03
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=769Jun 29 00:04
TechrightsTitle: Suns Current RPC License « Pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 51.68 KBJun 29 00:04
ender2070not liberal enoughJun 29 00:04
cubezzzI did grep it thoughJun 29 00:04
ender2070and its thereJun 29 00:05
cubezzzit's merely a curiousity to me, I dont' distribute anythingJun 29 00:06
cubezzzexcept some stuff I wrote myselfJun 29 00:06
ender2070this is a cyclical arguementJun 29 00:06
ender2070im doneJun 29 00:06
ender2070i just know im not an idiot nowJun 29 00:06
eduardoender2070: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/Jun 29 00:10
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu Jobs | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 26.69 KBJun 29 00:10
eduardomaybe jono can get you a foot in the door ;)Jun 29 00:10
MinceRis Ubuntu Jobs related to Steve?Jun 29 00:10
eduardohahaJun 29 00:10
eduardoMinceR ;)Jun 29 00:11
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/38372456#notice-38612656 " it's the kind of "linux" no one needs. i'm not sure rms really wants to call it gnu/anything in that case (up to him though)"Jun 29 00:12
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/38372456#notice-38612791 "@glynmoody @schestowitz The kill switch worries me only cos it's there by default. If it was an optional extra it really would be a feature."Jun 29 00:12
*DaemonFC wonders if the dark chocolate truffle coffee tastes as good as the grounds that he just spilled into his hand and decided to eatJun 29 00:12
TechrightsTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.7 KBJun 29 00:12
DaemonFCguess I'll know in a minuteJun 29 00:12
schestowitzGoogle has Hubris and Android starts to suck [for freedom]Jun 29 00:12
DaemonFCwaste not want notJun 29 00:12
eduardoschestowitz: I heard they've remotely removed a second app now?Jun 29 00:12
ender2070ill check it outJun 29 00:13
ender2070thanksJun 29 00:13
eduardoender2070: no probJun 29 00:13
eduardogood luckJun 29 00:13
ender2070:)Jun 29 00:13
schestowitz[23:59] <ender2070> Simon Phipps doesn't even work at Sun or Oracle anymoreJun 29 00:13
schestowitzHe helps maintain (ex)Sun projectsJun 29 00:14
eduardoender2070: I think Red Hat might be hiring tooJun 29 00:14
DaemonFCI am Cornholio, I need TP for my bunghole!!!! Are you threatening me!?!? AYAYAYAYAYAAAAA!!!Jun 29 00:14
DaemonFCtoo much coffeeJun 29 00:14
schestowitz[00:10] <MinceR> is Ubuntu Jobs related to Steve?Jun 29 00:15
schestowitzOnly when Mark loses more hairJun 29 00:15
DaemonFCI am from Lake Titicaca!Jun 29 00:15
DaemonFCBungholio!Jun 29 00:15
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 00:15
MinceRlolJun 29 00:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: coffe3 makes me jitrerryJun 29 00:16
schestowitzThe Apple cult is looking for new sacrificial liversJun 29 00:17
schestowitziLiver is better than iDieF*Die!Jun 29 00:17
ender2070redhatJun 29 00:17
ender2070hmmmmJun 29 00:17
ender2070mmmmJun 29 00:18
ender2070yumJun 29 00:18
schestowitzHuh?Jun 29 00:19
ender2070i would *love* working thereJun 29 00:19
ender2070almost as much as I'd love working at GoogleJun 29 00:19
schestowitzMinceR: Blow is his brother, thoughJun 29 00:19
eduardoyou are in canada, right?Jun 29 00:20
eduardoI don't see any rh jobs in canadaJun 29 00:21
eduardo:(Jun 29 00:21
ender2070yeahJun 29 00:21
ender2070i dont see any either :(Jun 29 00:21
ender2070canada sucks for wicked jobsJun 29 00:21
ender2070the ubuntu ones are in the US tooJun 29 00:21
eduardothe people I know who work for ubuntu work from homeJun 29 00:22
eduardoso I don't see why that would be a problemJun 29 00:22
ender2070oh really?Jun 29 00:22
cubezzzyeah you can work via IRC believe it or notJun 29 00:22
eduardoyeaJun 29 00:22
cubezzzI've done it beforeJun 29 00:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: I made a video, yayJun 29 00:22
eduardocubezzz: where do you work?Jun 29 00:22
*DaemonFC wonder if he'll be sued by MTVJun 29 00:22
cubezzzeverywhere :)Jun 29 00:23
eduardohahaJun 29 00:23
eduardoI was thinking you meant you worked for ubuntu or somethingJun 29 00:23
cubezzzI'm close to Toronto but I mostly work at home or at the media salvation placeJun 29 00:23
cubezzznoJun 29 00:23
eduardoohJun 29 00:23
ender2070http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/canonical_UQASR/Jun 29 00:24
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu Jobs | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 8.67 KBJun 29 00:24
ender2070that one looks goodJun 29 00:24
eduardoI bet jono works from home :)Jun 29 00:24
cubezzzno, I just meant that I did Linux work via IRCJun 29 00:24
ender2070doesnt need CJun 29 00:24
ender2070which i'm still learningJun 29 00:24
cubezzzhey I have the PDP-11 code, I could grep thatJun 29 00:25
cubezzzI bet that doesn't have Sun RPCJun 29 00:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: which video?Jun 29 00:27
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBBCkAJGlHcJun 29 00:28
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Gevalia Kaffe - I am the great Cornholio! .::. Size~: 73.78 KBJun 29 00:28
cubezzzI won't be happy until I write my own OSJun 29 00:29
cubezzztessier even wants to build a relay computerJun 29 00:29
cubezzzbut I'll just stick with softwareJun 29 00:29
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yW_sIKBfIkJun 29 00:30
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Beavis and Butthead vaya cornholio .::. Size~: 87.42 KBJun 29 00:30
ender2070eduardo - ty for the linkJun 29 00:30
ender2070I just applied to the one I linkedJun 29 00:30
ender2070QA Engineer (Stable Release)Jun 29 00:31
cubezzzthere's ATI Jun 29 00:32
cubezzzthey have offices in CanadaJun 29 00:32
eduardoender2070: good luck. my wife used to do QA for a small software company years ago when she was pregnantJun 29 00:33
eduardoshe barely knew anything about computers at the timeJun 29 00:33
ender2070LOLJun 29 00:33
ender2070cubezzz - sorry I don't like them (ATI)Jun 29 00:33
eduardowhen she left, they said she was the best QA person they ever had :)Jun 29 00:34
ender2070I could probably expand from QA once I can program!Jun 29 00:34
ender2070I have a hell of a lot more time to do that now! LOLJun 29 00:34
eduardoyeaJun 29 00:34
cubezzzok why don't you like ATI?Jun 29 00:34
ender2070cubezzz - why should I?Jun 29 00:34
DaemonFC"I would hate for my? bungholio to get polio!"Jun 29 00:34
DaemonFC:PJun 29 00:34
DaemonFCheheJun 29 00:34
ender2070not being a party pooper but ATI sells hardwareJun 29 00:36
ender2070im not an engineer or software developer so theres not much I can do for them besides salesJun 29 00:36
DaemonFC"Let's just drop him off in Mexico and let the Federales deal with him!"Jun 29 00:36
DaemonFC:DJun 29 00:36
cubezzzI'm sure you could do QA thereJun 29 00:36
ender2070ill take a lookJun 29 00:37
ender2070better than what i was already doingJun 29 00:37
cubezzzI'd consider working for them in a secondJun 29 00:37
eduardoender2070: keep us posted on your progress!Jun 29 00:37
ender2070I willJun 29 00:38
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1lbAE0-4O8&feature=relatedJun 29 00:38
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Beavis & Butthead .::. Size~: 91.03 KBJun 29 00:38
DaemonFCearly prototype of Hank HillJun 29 00:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 00:38
ender2070in context of the jobs provided here though, they are the least openJun 29 00:38
eduardook, my wife just called me down to dinner. night allJun 29 00:38
cubezzzlaterJun 29 00:38
*eduardo has quit (Quit: Page closed)Jun 29 00:38
ender2070but hey the place i was working at before was pretty pro microsoftJun 29 00:39
ender2070pc repair shops tend to beJun 29 00:39
DaemonFCender2070: They're awfulJun 29 00:39
DaemonFCthey're not just pro-Microsoft, they're snobby about itJun 29 00:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Go and get your GNOME training at Guadec - http://is.gd/d8e7u #gnomeJun 29 00:40
cubezzzwe have a pro-linux shop just down the street from meJun 29 00:40
TechrightsTitle: Safe as Milk  » Blog Archive   » GNOME Developer Training in danger .::. Size~: 23.41 KBJun 29 00:40
DaemonFCI had a BIOS flashing gone wrong and just needed them to use their flasher thing on itJun 29 00:40
cubezzzeven has all sorts of linux iso'sJun 29 00:40
DaemonFCand they said if it didn't have Windows on it, they couldn't work on itJun 29 00:40
cubezzzoh boyJun 29 00:40
DaemonFC"Hey, asshole, I'm not asking you to do anything with the operating system!"Jun 29 00:40
DaemonFC:PJun 29 00:40
ender2070they're hiring someone to write linux softwareJun 29 00:41
ender2070drivers and test suitesJun 29 00:41
ender2070C, C++ and QtJun 29 00:41
cubezzzhmmmJun 29 00:42
ender2070those were languages I was interested in learning tooJun 29 00:42
ender2070butJun 29 00:42
ender2070even if I learn them i need years of experience to be any goodJun 29 00:43
ender2070otherwise i'd be just another doze developer ;)Jun 29 00:43
cubezzzI did some windows programming and hated itJun 29 00:46
ender2070I did a little bit of VB in high schoolJun 29 00:48
ender2070and TuringJun 29 00:48
DaemonFCprogram using your mouse , 1,000 macros includedJun 29 00:49
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 00:49
DaemonFCWant to delete a folder of your choosing? There's a VBA for that.Jun 29 00:50
DaemonFCWant something to open it for the convenience of the user? There's a DOC for that.Jun 29 00:51
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 00:51
DaemonFCand the rest is historyJun 29 00:51
DaemonFCWant to send it to all your friends and show them how cool VB is? There's an Outlook Express for that!Jun 29 00:51
DaemonFCI think VB's primary goal was to make it easy for a retarded 12 year old to write computer viruses by banging randomly on the mouse buttonsJun 29 00:52
cubezzzLearn C first I'd sayJun 29 00:53
cubezzzstart with the K&R bookJun 29 00:53
ender2070people always say that :)Jun 29 00:54
ender2070[19:34] <DaemonFC> Want to delete a folder of your choosing? There's a VBA for that. --- embeded in the source code of many macro virusesJun 29 00:54
ender2070[19:36] <DaemonFC> I think VB's primary goal was to make it easy for a retarded 12 year old to write computer viruses by banging randomly on the mouse buttons +1Jun 29 00:55
ender2070what was the first thing my friend writes with it? a subseven cloneJun 29 00:55
ender2070lolJun 29 00:55
ender2070still undetectable by all virus scannersJun 29 00:56
ender2070virus scanners are a joke anywaysJun 29 00:56
ender2070they don't protect your pc from malicious behavior, it's just a delete command died to a database of signaturesJun 29 00:57
*DaemonFC smacks ender2070 upside the head with loveletter.vbs.txtJun 29 00:57
ender2070norton spends all its time making it look nice and shineyJun 29 00:57
DaemonFCNorton is like a piece of software that downgrades your whole computer by 5 yearsJun 29 00:58
ender2070some of the better ones figured out how not to have to load the entire database into ramJun 29 00:58
DaemonFClike totallyJun 29 00:58
DaemonFC:DJun 29 00:58
DaemonFCit doesn't do a lot elseJun 29 00:58
ender2070no norton gets slower with every virus db updateJun 29 00:58
DaemonFCI still have trouble figuring out exactly what it's there forJun 29 00:58
DaemonFCbut it costs $60 so it must do somethingJun 29 00:58
DaemonFCright?Jun 29 00:58
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 00:58
ender2070you can get it oem for $20 without buying a pcJun 29 00:58
ender2070all stores will sell itJun 29 00:58
ender2070they dont careJun 29 00:59
ender2070for them, futureshop sells it for $60, ppl go to them insteadJun 29 00:59
DaemonFCOEM is just a ploy to get a huge install baseJun 29 00:59
DaemonFCthen a few months later it times out and tells you to dig deeperJun 29 00:59
ender2070oem is meant for manufacturers bundling a pc for a customerJun 29 00:59
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 00:59
cubezzzthe dozers around here like AvastJun 29 00:59
ender2070everyone has oem versions of stuffJun 29 00:59
MinceRmonopolioJun 29 01:00
cubezzzI never bother with stuff like that Jun 29 01:00
DaemonFCMSE is actually the least pushy free antivirus I've seenJun 29 01:00
ender2070Avast has a good engine, but its defs suckJun 29 01:00
ender2070avast is one of the only ones which will load in NT's pre-gui command promptJun 29 01:00
ender2070and scan before anything loadsJun 29 01:00
DaemonFCender2070: How the HELL does Avast Free say you're "fully protected" then have a button next to that where you can "Buy more protection"Jun 29 01:00
DaemonFCis that like doubling up on your condoms or something?Jun 29 01:00
DaemonFC:PJun 29 01:00
ender2070they sell you a couple more products with itJun 29 01:01
MinceRyou can be more than fully protected.Jun 29 01:01
cubezzzI remember f-prot :)Jun 29 01:01
ender2070f-prot was goodJun 29 01:01
cubezzzbut whatever, my dos box only has plipJun 29 01:01
ender2070used like 5mb of ramJun 29 01:01
ender2070on windowsJun 29 01:01
cubezzzno ethernetJun 29 01:01
DaemonFCMinceR: Bubble BoyJun 29 01:01
MinceRalso, you could scan your files 4 times a go ;)Jun 29 01:01
DaemonFCyank the network connectionJun 29 01:01
MinceRjust to be sureJun 29 01:01
DaemonFCthat'll keep Windows safeJun 29 01:01
MinceRyank windowsJun 29 01:01
cubezzzyank tcp/ipJun 29 01:01
cubezzzthat's good enoughJun 29 01:01
ender2070the concept of scanning your entire pc for infections is also flawedJun 29 01:02
ender2070the user should never have write access to anything but their own folderJun 29 01:02
DaemonFCwell if one gets past your antivirus to begin with you're cooked anywayJun 29 01:02
DaemonFCthe only hard drive scan that even matters is the initial oneJun 29 01:02
ender2070you might as well formatJun 29 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] A bit of slashdotpunk from @deathboyuk to brighten your evening. http://url.ie/6mwmJun 29 01:03
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DaemonFCit's not like malware evades your antivirus just to sit quietly and wait for the next weekly scanJun 29 01:03
cubezzzjust have two computers, one linux box and one windows box (if you must have windows)Jun 29 01:03
DaemonFCwhen it will go quietlyJun 29 01:03
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 01:03
cubezzzthen just don't connect the windows box to the internetJun 29 01:03
ender2070cubezzz - but that wont work with windows 8Jun 29 01:03
ender2070or half the video gamesJun 29 01:03
MinceRget cracked versions.Jun 29 01:04
ender2070I say have a whole seperate network for the windows box isolated from the rest, with filters that deny it from connecting to the other networkJun 29 01:04
DaemonFCWindows 8 will enact a magical force field of DRM and single-sourced software installationJun 29 01:04
DaemonFCjust look at how safe that's kept Mac usersJun 29 01:04
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 01:04
ender2070ipcop will do itJun 29 01:04
ender2070i used to have a seperate network for wifi connectionsJun 29 01:05
ender2070a wifi router plugged into a 3rd network card on a router pcJun 29 01:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Listening to Decadence's '3rd Stage Of Decay' which I got from the Ubuntu One Music Store. :-)Jun 29 01:06
DaemonFCI like Apple, what other vendor will stick up for you by saying "We were here first and if you want access to this user's most secret data, you'll have to go through us..... We take Visa!"?Jun 29 01:06
DaemonFCI mean that's classyJun 29 01:06
ender2070if someone hacked my wifi, it would have net access but not be able to sniff your packetsJun 29 01:06
DaemonFC:DJun 29 01:06
DaemonFCMicrosoft has antivirus utilities now for just that reasonJun 29 01:07
DaemonFCthey shoot down any spyware outfits that haven't paid them Jun 29 01:07
DaemonFCor try to anywayJun 29 01:08
ender2070actually its more or less, any spyware outfits that aren't registered businesses in the USAJun 29 01:08
DaemonFCor IsraelJun 29 01:08
ender2070now that Russia is buying ICQ, America is pissedJun 29 01:09
DaemonFCyes, in the USA our wonderful free market system throws you in jail if you won't do business with IsraelJun 29 01:09
ender2070they won't be able to spy with it anymoreJun 29 01:09
DaemonFChow nice, huh?Jun 29 01:09
ender2070terrorists apparently loved itJun 29 01:09
DaemonFCanyone who values their privacy is a terroristJun 29 01:10
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 01:10
ender2070ICQ used to be run in IsraelJun 29 01:10
ender2070the main servers are still thereJun 29 01:10
DaemonFChell, anyone the government doesn't like is "funding" terrorismJun 29 01:10
ender2070yeahJun 29 01:10
ender2070terrorists can be people with politically incorrect ideasJun 29 01:10
ender2070i think there were faux anarchists in torontoJun 29 01:11
ender2070they were most likely cops in disguise like last timeJun 29 01:11
DaemonFC"Drug him and hit him with this $5 wrench until he gives us his password"Jun 29 01:11
DaemonFCI laughed so hard I about criedJun 29 01:11
ender2070anarchists don't wear political symbols of communism either, unless they are posers or something anywaysJun 29 01:11
ender2070they dont like governmentJun 29 01:11
ender2070the cops left people alone when they were attacking the cop carsJun 29 01:12
DaemonFCender2070: gasoline bombsJun 29 01:13
DaemonFCno real protest is without themJun 29 01:13
ender2070is that a petrol bomb?Jun 29 01:18
ender2070they were used in greeceJun 29 01:18
DaemonFChehJun 29 01:23
DaemonFCiweb spits out valid XHTML 1.0 TransitionalJun 29 01:23
DaemonFCthen invokes IE8's IE 7 rendering mode wit ha meta tagJun 29 01:23
ender2070http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_(programming_language)Jun 29 01:23
DaemonFCwtf?Jun 29 01:23
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schestowitz[01:00] <MinceR> monopolioJun 29 01:39
schestowitzSounds like something the Gates FOundation doesJun 29 01:40
DaemonFChttp://www.ripoffreport.com/Collection-Agency-s/National-Credit-Solu/national-credit-solutions-nc-9bc8a.htmJun 29 01:44
TechrightsTitle: National Credit Solutions - NCS - Capital Managment Systems - BMG Music Review | Rip-off Report #418928 .::. Size~: 139.83 KBJun 29 01:44
DaemonFC"owner" of Columbia House mail fraud organization claims to have helped save the US economyJun 29 01:45
DaemonFChehJun 29 01:45
schestowitzWait..Jun 29 01:49
schestowitzThe US economy was saved?Jun 29 01:49
schestowitzFor whom? Wall Street?Jun 29 01:49
schestowitzAnyway, gn, I'm tiredJun 29 01:49
DaemonFCapparently the collection agencies are the good guys, schestowitzJun 29 01:49
DaemonFCit's due to them skimming off the top of junk debt that America is a free countryJun 29 01:50
DaemonFCand we all owe our lives to themJun 29 01:50
DaemonFCwho knew?Jun 29 01:50
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squarepegexitJun 29 01:58
squarepegoopsJun 29 01:58
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squarepegwhat's new?Jun 29 02:00
ender2070kopete gives me a notifier when people are typingJun 29 02:10
ender2070KDE 4.4.90Jun 29 02:19
ender2070:PJun 29 02:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft (and Other Proprietary Software Companies) Derail Free/Libre Software in South Africa and New Zealand http://ur1.ca/0es1nJun 29 02:23
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squarepegjust installed konqeror todayJun 29 02:24
squarepegIt's a nice projectJun 29 02:24
ender2070coolJun 29 02:26
squarepegI might switch from gnome to another window manager at some pointJun 29 02:26
squarepegmight switch distro as well, from ubuntu to debianJun 29 02:27
ender2070im using it with kwebkitpart but it still seems to be broken on acid3Jun 29 02:27
ender2070i recommend fedoraJun 29 02:27
squarepegubuntu keeps things rather freshJun 29 02:27
squarepegwell, I like aptitudeJun 29 02:27
squarepegI'm just feeling an anti-web 2.0 feeling latelyJun 29 02:28
squarepegI wiped out my facebook, twitter accountsJun 29 02:28
squarepeggmail is nextJun 29 02:28
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100629/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_doj_russia_arrestsJun 29 02:28
TechrightsTitle: 10 alleged Russian secret agents arrested in US - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 150.27 KBJun 29 02:28
ender2070you're using KDE or GNOME?Jun 29 02:28
DaemonFCThey were outed by "Moose and Squirrel"Jun 29 02:28
DaemonFC:PJun 29 02:29
squarepegcurrently gnomeJun 29 02:29
ender2070ahhJun 29 02:29
ender2070cause KDE is really socialJun 29 02:29
squarepegand some KDE support, obviously. or else I couldn't use conquerorJun 29 02:29
squarepegi deleted 14,000 emails from gmailJun 29 02:29
ender2070lolJun 29 02:29
squarepegexported the contacts and deleted them tooJun 29 02:29
ender2070i cant really do that myselfJun 29 02:30
ender2070i require google apps for domainsJun 29 02:30
squarepegI'm losing my patience with other people having my dataJun 29 02:30
squarepegsnooping and thinking they know meJun 29 02:30
ender2070gives me free SSL supportJun 29 02:30
ender2070only google and the nsa will be snooping on my emailJun 29 02:30
squarepegyeah, well i don't trust anybodyJun 29 02:31
ender2070the nsa will just get it anwaysJun 29 02:31
squarepegif I could, I'd delete every trace of my existence from the internetJun 29 02:31
squarepegyeah, probably it draws special attention when you mass-deleteJun 29 02:31
squarepegnevertheless, I'll have no reason to keep using it nowJun 29 02:32
ender2070they probably have a user in here right now just watching usJun 29 02:32
ender2070plenty of people never talkJun 29 02:32
squarepegsureJun 29 02:32
squarepegnobody is more paranoid than i amJun 29 02:32
ender2070hell it could even be DaemonFCJun 29 02:32
squarepegi just don't like people thinking they know me when they don't knowJun 29 02:32
ender2070spoting right wing rush limbaugh and david duke propagandaJun 29 02:32
ender2070trying to recruit terroristsJun 29 02:33
squarepegpeople take you for granted when they think they know youJun 29 02:33
ender2070sporting*Jun 29 02:33
squarepegso I'm disengaging from all these web 2.0 outfits Jun 29 02:33
squarepegthey think they're the techno-elite, but they're just big businessesJun 29 02:34
squarepegAlso, when you give your data to others, it's very generous of you. Jun 29 02:35
ender2070yeahJun 29 02:37
ender2070i hardly give anything out to be honestJun 29 02:37
squarepeggood for youJun 29 02:37
ender2070my name is out there thoughJun 29 02:37
squarepegI have to say, regardless of the privacy problems of facebook, at least you can delete all your postingsJun 29 02:39
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squarepegAlso, I deleted all my twitterJun 29 02:39
ender2070https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Go_ProgrammingJun 29 02:40
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squarepegnot saying I won't resume laterJun 29 02:40
ender2070:DJun 29 02:40
DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/verizon_cuts_kin_prices/Jun 29 02:43
TechrightsTitle: Verizon slashes Microsoft Kin phone prices • The Register .::. Size~: 31.64 KBJun 29 02:43
squarepegI have a prepaid phoneJun 29 02:43
squarepegnot so bad, much better privacyJun 29 02:43
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ender2070why are you so paranoid?Jun 29 02:51
ender2070terrorist?Jun 29 02:51
ender2070lolJun 29 02:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Manual for Removing #Microsoft Trap From #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux (and Lessons of #TomTom and SCO Cases) http://ur1.ca/0et1hJun 29 02:52
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MinceRbecause if you're not a terrorist, you've got nothing to hide?Jun 29 02:52
ender2070i was making fun of those peopleJun 29 02:57
ender2070besides, statistics say the person next to you is either a terrorist or has swine fluJun 29 02:58
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Co.  "ACCESS employs approximately 1,600 people globally, with headquarters in Tokyo, Japan and facilities in the USA (Sunnyvale, CA), France (Montpellier), Germany (Oberhausen), Korea (Seoul), the PRC (Nanjing and Beijing) and Taiwan (Taipei). They also employ David 'Lefty' Schlesinger as director of Open Source and Social Media. He currently engages in tactics against the Free Jun 29 02:59
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Chips_B_MalroySoftware Foundation in the name of the more business neutral open source. He maintains a site called Freeishsoftware.org to harass the community."Jun 29 02:59
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAQrsA3m8BgJun 29 03:03
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Chips_B_Malroythat quote is not mine, its actually on the wikiJun 29 03:05
ender2070huh?Jun 29 03:06
Chips_B_Malroydid you read it Ender?Jun 29 03:06
ender2070i will nowJun 29 03:07
Chips_B_Malroylet me past the last line in about Access againJun 29 03:08
Chips_B_Malroy"They also employ David 'Lefty' Schlesinger as director of Open Source and Social Media. He currently engages in tactics against the Free Software Foundation in the name of the more business neutral open source. He maintains a site called Freeishsoftware.org to harass the community."Jun 29 03:08
Chips_B_Malroysort of revealing, don't you think?Jun 29 03:09
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ender2070crazyJun 29 03:16
Chips_B_MalroyHe is not just a troll, he is a paid shill.Jun 29 03:39
ender2070we all knew that alreadyJun 29 03:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @phuertas Extremadura Gov. has created the trademark "Software Libre Extremadura" for enterprises that develop code in this Region!Jun 29 03:41
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyVhn0FWWB4Jun 29 03:49
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ender2070youtube is greatJun 29 03:49
ender2070lolJun 29 03:49
ender2070perfect for me: absolute n00b spoonfeedJun 29 03:49
ender2070cubezzz - you're the idiotJun 29 03:51
ender2070http://identi.ca/notice/38639330Jun 29 03:51
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ender2070http://identi.ca/notice/38639536Jun 29 03:52
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ender2070lolJun 29 03:52
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://lwn.net/Articles/367498/  by GreyGeekJun 29 05:25
TechrightsTitle: you need to understand Schlesinger aka 'stonemirror' and his long history... [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 14.67 KBJun 29 05:25
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schestowitz "@schestowitz A very disturbing situation: Oracle puts OO in a second place and Novell wants it to inject Mono..." @schestowitz A very disturbing situation: Oracle puts OO in a second place and Novell wants it to inject Mono...Jun 29 07:54
Diablo-D3A very disturbing situation: people give a fuck about OOJun 29 07:59
Diablo-D3they will be fucking heros if they can kill OOJun 29 08:00
cubezzzthe ability to read doc, xls and ppt files is significantJun 29 08:00
cubezzzit's unforuntately necessary in the world we live inJun 29 08:00
Diablo-D3one less "compatibility" with Microsoft the betterJun 29 08:01
cubezzzDiablo-D3, the docs with my eprom burner, it was docJun 29 08:01
cubezzzso I used ooJun 29 08:01
Diablo-D3http://kotaku.com/5574783/meet-portal-2s-wheatley-the-eye-whos-a-guyJun 29 08:02
TechrightsTitle: Meet Portal 2's Wheatley, The Eye Who's A Guy .::. Size~: 76.1 KBJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3ohJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3thisJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3isJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3fuckingJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3awesomeJun 29 08:02
cubezzzyou show me a linux compatible eprom burner, I'll be happy to buy it (as long as it's not super expensive)Jun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3thisJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3isJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3fuckingJun 29 08:02
Diablo-D3awesomeJun 29 08:02
cubezzzschestowitz, we can just use old ooJun 29 08:04
cubezzzor find something else that's betterJun 29 08:05
cubezzzthere's stuff like ppt2textJun 29 08:05
cubezzzyou know, if you wanted to be really pedantic about itJun 29 08:05
cubezzzwhat's with all the chicken little attitude lately?Jun 29 08:07
cubezzzpeople are getting paranoidJun 29 08:07
schestowitzhttp://slushdot.com/article.php?story=20100628001225597Jun 29 08:16
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schestowitzMe: "What a coincidence. Only 5 hours ago I copied and pasted your comment about him in Groklaw (for quoting tomorrow)."Jun 29 08:16
schestowitzHaha, funny pageJun 29 08:16
schestowitzI am baffled by this Müller character as I've exchanged dozens of E-mails with him (compared to over a thousand with PJ, whom I never even saw). He gets very nervous when I expose him in public.Jun 29 08:19
schestowitzEven the FFII turned its back on him (but secretly).Jun 29 08:20
schestowitzTo an extentJun 29 08:20
schestowitz> No need to be anonymous :-)Jun 29 08:20
schestowitz> Jun 29 08:20
schestowitz> Or, you're saying that you want to repost it without identifying yourself as Jun 29 08:20
schestowitz> the poster because he'll go snakey - that's your right, and understandable - Jun 29 08:20
schestowitz> post away.Jun 29 08:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Bordeaux, 6 years ago, demonstration against software patents: http://ur1.ca/0f6hwJun 29 08:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Real checks and balances are needed in to stop the patent system from running Amok: http://ur1.ca/0f6waJun 29 08:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software patents are not a done deal in New Zealand; Calling out Florian Müller’s #IBM paranoia http://ur1.ca/0f717 #swpatsJun 29 08:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mozilla in Indonesia 2010 - http://bit.ly/9HayKK "Firefox enjoys something between 65-75% market share on the desktop": wow #indonesiaJun 29 09:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Fast-Tracking: Alternatives to College - http://oreil.ly/dhwnzC fascinating idea #education #trainingJun 29 09:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] interview: Rufus Pollock - http://bit.ly/apzEVc Mr Open Knowledge #opendataJun 29 09:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] You wanna know more about Windows8? Here you can have a sneak preview as it seems: http://is.gd/d8CxDJun 29 09:53
TechrightsTitle: Windows 8 Plans Leaked: Numerous Details Revealed | Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, Office 15 | Stephen Chapman @ MSFTKitchen .::. Size~: 142.82 KBJun 29 09:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Chinese Character Art: Words Become Pictures Of The Words! - http://bit.ly/8Xkwli pretty amazing stuff #chinese #writingJun 29 09:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: #Mozilla in #Indonesia 2010 - http://bit.ly/9HayKK '#Firefox enjoys something between 65-75% market share on the desktop'Jun 29 09:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] OpenLibrary.org Digital Lending Library - http://bit.ly/bLe4p4 but not for GNU/Linux? shame #openlibrary #ebooksJun 29 10:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bilski Case Analyses: Good News, Bad News http://techrights.org/2010/06/29/scotus-bilski-analysis/ #scotus #swpatsJun 29 10:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: It seems one will be able to access another user's data by holding a picture of him in front of the PC's camera, nice!Jun 29 10:12
cwieYahoo! removed the GNU/Linux section again from Tech NewsJun 29 10:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Profiting from open source -- without selling out - http://bit.ly/d4aexm tricky balance (some weird hyperlinks in the article) #opensourceJun 29 10:14
TechrightsTitle: Profiting from open source -- without selling out - Computerworld .::. Size~: 79.06 KBJun 29 10:14
schestowitzcwie: how do I check to verify?Jun 29 10:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer why promote vapourware?Jun 29 10:15
cwiehttp://news.yahoo.com/technologyJun 29 10:15
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cwieok- go to the link and on the bottom right under where it says "Apple/Macintosh News" you should see Linux / Open Source NewsJun 29 10:16
cwiethere is no section any more- the only thing regarding Linux and Open Source is a link on the pageJun 29 10:17
schestowitzHow can I see before/after?Jun 29 10:17
schestowitzThe trolls were attacking me the last time when I linked to Hess' claimsJun 29 10:17
schestowitzcwie: I see"Linux/Open Source" in  http://news.yahoo.com/technologyJun 29 10:18
TechrightsTitle: The top tech news and technology headlines - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 127.75 KBJun 29 10:18
schestowitzMaybe it depends on location?Jun 29 10:18
cwiecan you screenshot it?Jun 29 10:21
cwiei'm definitely not getting a block like it on the right similar to the one for appleJun 29 10:21
cwiethat's what is missing- there is not question that a link for open source & linux news still exists on the tech news page. that is not in question. the block however has been removed. Jun 29 10:22
cwieI see one tiny link for "Linux/Open Source" at the top and one link for "Linux/Open Source News" under "More News" Jun 29 10:24
cwiebut there is not Linux/ Open Source news section Jun 29 10:24
cwiethey added a "Social Media" section above the "Technology-Games" sectionJun 29 10:25
cwiethat's what replaced the "Linux/Open Source" section- except that instead it fell below the "Apple / Macintosh News" sectionJun 29 10:26
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cwiewhere is there a good alternative news section to yahoo news?Jun 29 10:41
cwiewith a good tech sectionJun 29 10:42
cwieand lookup for moviesJun 29 10:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got another journey to deal with this evening...... Then back to work on Wednesday...... :(Jun 29 10:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] .NET Violates Patents, Sued http://ur1.ca/0fcfn Microsoft’s imitation of #Java is mentioned by Salesforce in its counter lawsuit #swpatsJun 29 10:56
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] .NET Violates Patents, #Microsoft Sued !monofree !fsf http://ur1.ca/0fcfnJun 29 10:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Response to some new spin and lies from #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2010/06/29/spin-and-lies-from-microsoft/ #fudJun 29 11:27
TechrightsTitle: Lie Watch: Microsoft Does it Again | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.27 KBJun 29 11:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft / French Government Should Be Sued in France for ‘Pulling a Quebec’ http://ur1.ca/0fdpm #corruptionJun 29 11:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Botching Bilski - http://bit.ly/bXDyQZ Justice Stevens gets it right - but is over-ruled #bilski #swpats #usptoJun 29 11:30
TechrightsTitle: Botching Bilski - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 78.8 KBJun 29 11:30
schestowitzcwie: sure, hold on..Jun 29 12:10
schestowitzload average: 20.59, 11.45, 6.02Jun 29 12:11
schestowitzI'm having server issues ATMJun 29 12:11
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schestowitz[10:41] <cwie> where is there a good alternative news section to yahoo news?Jun 29 13:11
schestowitzI put Daily Links in TechrightsJun 29 13:11
schestowitzI collect items and sort them from many sourcesJun 29 13:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why and How #Microsoft Exchange Should be Replaced by Free/Libre Software http://ur1.ca/0fiblJun 29 13:12
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oiaohmschestowitz:  they missed it openchange project is what risked undoing exchange.Jun 29 13:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] it looks like the court was divided 4/4 with Scalia as the swing vote (how often does that happen?) http://ur1.ca/0fj09Jun 29 13:34
TechrightsTitle: Second Thoughts On Bilski: Could Another Case Get A Direct Ruling On Business Method Patentability? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 72.09 KBJun 29 13:34
Diablo-D3http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/28/1923221/Leaked-MS-Presentation-Shows-App-Store-Plans-For-Windows-8Jun 29 13:36
TechrightsTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Leaked MS Presentation Shows App Store Plans For Windows 8 .::. Size~: 155.76 KBJun 29 13:36
Diablo-D3already?Jun 29 13:36
oiaohmNot like I think is a leak.Jun 29 13:37
oiaohmApp store is about the only thing that can save windows.Jun 29 13:38
Diablo-D3wellJun 29 13:38
Diablo-D3if they left java apps in the storeJun 29 13:38
Diablo-D3I'd dev for itJun 29 13:39
oiaohmMostly because Google is using its app store for kick backs to device makers.Jun 29 13:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Bilski: the patent system is a rich man’s game http://ur1.ca/0fj62Jun 29 13:40
TechrightsTitle: AwakenIP  » Bilski & Warsaw Share Insights .::. Size~: 42.86 KBJun 29 13:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Who lost the #Bilski vs. Kappos case? the top ten losers (besides the petitioners) http://bit.ly/dzlqCH #patent #swpatJun 29 13:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Bilski & Warsaw Share Insights - http://bit.ly/aPZz3V Bilski seen from Bilski's viewpoint (via @zoobab) #swpats #bilskiJun 29 13:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] John Dvorak: #Vista7 Was “a Face-saving #Vista Re-do” http://ur1.ca/0fjpl #windows #spin #microsoftJun 29 13:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Confidential report reveals ContactPoint security fears - http://bit.ly/aHCstn more skeletons emerge (via @WC2A_2AE) #surveillanceJun 29 14:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Developing Country Opposition to ACTA Mounts - http://bit.ly/bhLyGE interesting and important development #actaJun 29 14:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] EFF Takes On Mass BitTorrent Lawsuits In Court Tomorrow - http://bit.ly/bXqii8 go #EFF #bittorrentJun 29 14:10
TechrightsTitle:    EFF Takes On Mass BitTorrent Lawsuits In Court Tomorrow | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 39.77 KBJun 29 14:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Romford coppers try to stopper young snapper - http://bit.ly/cDH1YY Mr Plod makes himself look perfectly ridiculous - again #policing #ukJun 29 14:12
TechrightsTitle: Romford coppers try to stopper young snapper • The Register .::. Size~: 35.67 KBJun 29 14:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Compiere Open Source failed? - http://bit.ly/8XLoRa no, just wrong metric: "unlikely to create the hockey stick VCs look for" (via @maslett)Jun 29 14:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Greek strike leaves tourists stranded - http://bit.ly/9G6vGz yeah, that will boost the economy #greeceJun 29 14:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Deathly Drool: Evolutionary and Ecological Basis of Septic Bacteria in Komodo Dragon Mouths - http://bit.ly/dfGwiG great title #dragonsJun 29 14:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Interview with #Haaretz about #Hebrew edition of #LittleBrother http://craphound.com/?p=2999Jun 29 14:41
TechrightsTitle: Cory Doctorows craphound.com  >> Blog Archive   » Interview with Haaretz about Hebrew Little Brother edition .::. Size~: 19.22 KBJun 29 14:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Canada's copyright laws show Britain's digital legislation is no exception - http://bit.ly/dzChTC the rot spreads #deact #uk #canadaJun 29 14:56
TechrightsTitle:  Canada's copyright laws show Britain's digital legislation is no exception  | Cory Doctorow | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 102.02 KBJun 29 14:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Source Hardware User Group event #3, London - http://bit.ly/a7GQAN Arduino: An Open Source Hardware Success Story #openhardwareJun 29 14:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Justice Scalia’s Indecision a Victory for the Patent Bar - http://bit.ly/amPhAg important point: "it’s not controlling precedent" #bilskiJun 29 15:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Core Is Bad For Your Software Freedom - http://bit.ly/bpxHdf and *so* yesterday... #opensource #opencoreJun 29 15:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: Open Core Bad For Software Freedom: The open core model is being feted as new default open source business http://bit.ly/9zmdNXJun 29 15:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] Lol http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2010/06/lucky-gen-z.html #patentsJun 29 15:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @FOSSpatents No problem with the fail whales. Concerning the tone, I think the top ten list isn't particularly boo-gity-boo.Jun 29 15:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] All hail the Redmond innovators, who'd have thought of an "App Store"? Genius http://tinyurl.com/2dwq9wqJun 29 15:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Will they sell malware in the apps store? Or will they continue to come to Windows free of charge as before? http://tinyurl.com/2dwq9wqJun 29 15:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Keeps Losing Market Share to Google, Goes Aggressive, Discriminates Against GNU/Linux, and Grabs Healthcare http://ur1.ca/0fmitJun 29 16:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Messenger Has Same Old, Gaping Privacy Holes - Seems to be a day for MS fails http://tinyurl.com/293t6utJun 29 16:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Guest Post on Bilski: Throwing Back the Gauntlet - http://bit.ly/cG6ndu more good stuff: "says more about how patent law is made in the US"Jun 29 16:14
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MinceRhttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/100623.jpgJun 29 16:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK Inquiry to be held into security service torture claims - http://bit.ly/btvoFo at last, but with what remit? #torture #ukJun 29 16:18
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cubezzzhmmm, tech stocks are down todayJun 29 16:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Netrunner 2 (Codenamed “Blacklight”) is Released – #Ubuntu Without #Mono http://ur1.ca/0fn3m #gnu #linuxJun 29 16:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tickets have nearly run out for the London 'Ubuntu In Business' event on the 13th July - get them quick! bit.ly/UbuntuBusiness #ubuntuJun 29 16:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Should be writing, but can't stop loading new pics of Poesy my wife sent me. Can't wait to get home.Jun 29 16:28
schestowitz"Apple too is extorting companies or threatening them (e.g. Palm), not just suing."Jun 29 16:29
schestowitz Jun 29 16:29
schestowitzThe question is not whether one goes to court or not. Any patent holder will only do that as a last resort, no matter what he intends to achieve.Jun 29 16:29
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzThe question is whether a company makes its patents available for licensing or uses them on an exclusionary basis.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzMicrosoft's deal with HTC shows that they are willing to let HTC use its patents. If it were up to me, those software patents wouldn't exist and HTC wouldn't have to pay. But if those patents are valid, then the patent holder can ask for money and I don't object to that as long as the terms are commercially reasonable. I assume they are because otherwise HTC would not have done the deal.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzApple, however, does not want to allow HTC to provide certain functionality. That's why no deal was made. For all I know, and that is consistent with what one can see happening from the outside, Apple insisted on HTC dropping certain features. That is now what Apple tries to achieve in court: they want an injunction.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzThis distinction is a very important one to make. I know TechRights is very Microsoft-focused but the fact of the matter is that Microsoft uses its patents in a cooperative way and there's not one example where they tried to drive anyone out of business. It may not fit into your view of the world so far; it didn't fit into mine some time ago. But I think it's absolutely right, from an intellectual point of view, to recognize that Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzwhat they do with their patents doesn't aim to destroy anyone or to prevent others from innovating.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzApple goes for HTC's throat apparently.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzIBM has not (at least not to my knowledge) made any licensing offer to TurboHercules nor to NEON -- IBM just claims infringements and wants to shut out competition.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzGoogle doesn't give anyone a license to some of its search engine patents, so as to prevent competition in that field.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzIt doesn't make a Microsoft booster or shill or anything if I take into account the fact that Microsoft's use of patents doesn't do any damage at this stage. Should it ever change, then I will adjust my view accordingly.Jun 29 16:30
schestowitz=======SPIN from Florian === ^^^^Jun 29 16:30
schestowitzI'm just going to ignore his E-mailsJun 29 16:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Inaction From Ombudsman/EU Commission Regarding #Microsoft Lobbyists Derailing Public Policy http://ur1.ca/0fnirJun 29 16:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Bilski: the patent system is a rich man’s game http://ur1.ca/0fj62Jun 29 16:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @zoobab @glynmoody The last quote was actually from Rand, not BilskiJun 29 16:36
MinceRFlorian seems to be ignoring that HTC produces devices that use m$ sw, but not devices that use crApple swJun 29 16:37
MinceRi wonder how the crApple attacks against Palm will change now that HP owns PalmJun 29 16:38
ender2070http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/Jun 29 16:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Operation Cleansweep in full motion but needs your help! http://is.gd/d8Uf3 #ubuntuJun 29 16:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @webmink: Open Core Bad For Software Freedom: The open core model is being feted as new default open source business http://bit.ly/9zmdNXJun 29 16:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ffii Lol http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2010/06/lucky-gen-z.html #patentsJun 29 16:45
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schestowitzMinceR: the "kin" will sell 500 units, the "ect" will sell 0Jun 29 16:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I forgot to ask, how are we all doing today? Well?Jun 29 16:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A month and a half to go, oh the anxiety... how's it going for you guys, @greve? :)Jun 29 16:54
MinceR:DJun 29 16:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] FFII: Narrow Bilski ruling leaves all options open for the future http://ur1.ca/0fom8Jun 29 17:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I hope I shake these bad guts soon...got a journey.Jun 29 17:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I consider #netrunner 2 pathetic. How is it different from #kubuntu ?Jun 29 17:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] AUGH MY EARS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtVDazgT3koJun 29 17:11
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ender2070ROFL http://www.cracked.com/article_18559_6-famous-geniuses-you-didnt-know-were-perverts.htmlJun 29 17:17
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] LOL 6 Famous geniuses you didnt know were perverts http://2tu.us/2deuJun 29 17:18
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ender2070mozart also wrote this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_ArschJun 29 17:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @accarmichael: The less you have, the more you can become.Jun 29 17:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Hola. Szia. Guten tag. Alo. Mozilla Student Reps goes global - http://bit.ly/9DCtgE good idea #mozilla #studentsJun 29 17:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ACTA negotiators don't care about the Internet - http://bit.ly/9iw35Y because the Internet is the "problem" #ACTA is trying to solveJun 29 17:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Heredity asserts itself http://flic.kr/p/8eqkLyJun 29 17:37
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schestowitz> Mueller is a n00b.Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> He goes on slashdot and gets mod-bombed, then says he's "complaining to Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> management" because "slashdot is a neutral opinion-forming platform".Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> Slashdot? Neutral??? You can't make this stuff up!Jun 29 17:38
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] 6 slacker behaviors that science says are good for you - http://2tu.us/2dbtJun 29 17:38
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> And today in our ongoing war he's saying he's "inclined to expose groklaw".  Jun 29 17:39
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schestowitz> I'm egging him on to do it. Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> The material I have received from multiple sources independently of eachJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> other indicates that they don't block "spammers" but simply people theyJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> disagree with.Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz>>Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> I am increasingly inclined to expose them for what they are, and to shedJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> some light on other issues concerning them than just this one. ThisJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> behavior is consistent with an overall approach that instead of digging forJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> truth attempts to suppress the truth in a wide variety of ways.Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> My response?Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> do your "expose". I'm sure it will be as insightful as your claim that IBMJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> is attacking Hercules, which was proven to be a lie. People here get thatJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> Turbo Hercules is not Hercules. Too bad that you and your pals have gottenJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> Jay so worked up that he's now finished in the IT field, but you don'tJun 29 17:39
schestowitz>> care.Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> Jun 29 17:39
schestowitz> I'll keep you posted.  there's nothing quite as fun as trolling a troll.Jun 29 17:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mozilla Posts Firefox 4.0 Beta 1 - http://bit.ly/bpgFwc hurry, hurry, hurry #firefox4 #beta #mozillaJun 29 17:40
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ender2070http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/4.0b1-candidates/build1/linux-x86_64/en-US/Jun 29 17:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Reading isn’t just a monkish pursuit: Matthew Battles on “The Shallows” - http://bit.ly/98w9EU intriguing facts and metaphors #readingJun 29 17:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @FFII You say Bilski leaves all options open for the future but the ruling clearly says only new legislation can have a restrictive effect.Jun 29 17:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft’s Failure in Mobile Technology Shows That #Microsoft Has No Promising Future http://ur1.ca/0fq1iJun 29 17:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Barnes & Noble Captures 20% of the E-Book Market - http://bit.ly/a38XHX much better than I would have thought #ebooksJun 29 17:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Lack Of A Billion Dollar Pureplay Open Source Software Company Shows The Market Is Working Properly - http://bit.ly/8ZVV9J yup: spot onJun 29 17:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] By the way folks, if you are coming to the Community Leadership Summit in Portland, let's use the #cls10 hashtag :-)Jun 29 18:32
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Diablo-D3huhJun 29 19:00
Diablo-D3interestingJun 29 19:00
Diablo-D3they have kindle on android nowJun 29 19:00
Diablo-D3that pretty much fucks over apple doesnt itJun 29 19:00
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oiaohm_Next question does it work in the android emulator Diablo-D3Jun 29 19:07
Diablo-D3oiaohm_: eh, who caresJun 29 19:16
Diablo-D3if I wanted that I'd just use the windows reader in wineJun 29 19:16
oiaohm_Windows reader in wine has been known to be iffy Diablo-D3 when they do drm changes.Jun 29 19:16
oiaohm_I was more thinking possible 100 percent working way of getting at it.Jun 29 19:17
Diablo-D3oiaohm_: then run android in vboxJun 29 19:17
Diablo-D3though I cant remember if anyone has a build of the appstore app for x86Jun 29 19:17
oiaohm_android sdk comes with presetup in qemuJun 29 19:17
oiaohm_For x86 or armJun 29 19:18
Diablo-D3nice.Jun 29 19:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Thank you google for NOT updating Nexus bought by Vodafone in Germany. Can i haz Froyo soonz?Jun 29 19:18
ender2070there is a go compiler for armJun 29 19:32
ender20705gJun 29 19:32
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DaemonFCit seemed funny to me that the x264 guys keep mouthing off mostly about Google's VP8 encoderJun 29 20:14
DaemonFCa well defined decoder is all you really needJun 29 20:14
DaemonFCif your decoding specification is bad, you have a problemJun 29 20:15
ender2070because they are biasedJun 29 20:16
DaemonFCender2070: The decoder is really what limits what you can do with your encoderJun 29 20:17
DaemonFCGoogle's encoder is basic and serves as an example of how you could implement oneJun 29 20:17
DaemonFCit's not highly optimizedJun 29 20:17
DaemonFC:PJun 29 20:17
DaemonFCit doesn't have to beJun 29 20:18
DaemonFCI found the later part of the FFMPEG post to be rather amusingJun 29 20:19
DaemonFC"Google?s VP8 specs are not always equally useful. They only describe the baseline profile (0). Other profiles (including those part of the vector testsuite, i.e. 1-3) use features not described in the specifications, such as chroma fullpixel motion vector (MV) rounding, a bilinear motion compensation (MC) filter (instead of a subpixel six-tap MC filter). "Jun 29 20:20
DaemonFCso you can implement stuff that infringes on h.264 patents in YOUR encoder and any standard non-infringing decoder will still produce the desired outputJun 29 20:20
DaemonFCthis kind of hits me as a read between the lines dealJun 29 20:21
DaemonFCGoogle doesn't "suggest", "mention", or "encourage" doing this, so when it does get done, the MPEG-LA can't file a suit against them or to get an injunction against the decoder (or the reference encoder)Jun 29 20:21
DaemonFClolJun 29 20:21
DaemonFCwhich is cleverJun 29 20:22
DaemonFCI'd expect to start seeing "highly optimized" VP8 encoders that end up on the "restricted extras" list on, say, UbuntuJun 29 20:23
DaemonFClike the baseline profile encoder ships on the install disc because you can use that in the United States, but then there's the "optimized" encoder that infringes on all kinds of MPEG patents that you can get later as a drop-in replacementJun 29 20:24
oiaohm_Not reallyJun 29 20:27
oiaohm_vp8 is designed to extend and basically become h.264 as h.264 patents expire.Jun 29 20:27
DaemonFCmy face feels really good for some reason nowJun 29 20:53
*DaemonFC just washed his face with some surgical scrub he found in a dumpsterJun 29 20:53
DaemonFCwoohooJun 29 20:53
DaemonFCEcolab will throw anything awayJun 29 20:53
ender2070lolJun 29 20:54
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DaemonFCI think I even look younger nowJun 29 20:55
*DaemonFC must remember to bathe with whatever this stuff is laterJun 29 20:55
DaemonFChttp://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/russia.spying.analysis/?fbid=nUr4qyAPRBkJun 29 20:58
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DaemonFCAgent Obvious, my parter, you may know him, Agent FuckingJun 29 20:58
DaemonFCtogether we are the Fucking/Obvious teamJun 29 20:58
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 20:59
DaemonFC"Some of the suspects adopted phony identities, including those of dead Americans"Jun 29 21:00
DaemonFCwell there's why they were caughtJun 29 21:00
DaemonFCthey broke cover and were seen moving around above groundJun 29 21:00
DaemonFCrookie mistakeJun 29 21:01
DaemonFCfirst rule of spying, when you're impersonating a corpse, you shouldn't move around too muchJun 29 21:01
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHUiCYAE2DYJun 29 21:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst re " I consider #netrunner 2 pathetic. How is it different from #kubuntu ?" > for starters, it's not from CanonicalJun 29 21:09
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/lost-memory-at-the-commission/Jun 29 21:10
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DaemonFCschestowitz: That's splitting hairsJun 29 21:10
DaemonFCif you depend on something not under your control, then you are effectively part of something not under your controlJun 29 21:11
DaemonFCthese Ubuntu spinoffs that change the wallpapers and add bugs are really quite funnyJun 29 21:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: These "community" distros like Fedora and OpenSuse are funnyJun 29 21:13
DaemonFCThe distro has five people on the board of directors, a motion will pass with simple majority, and three of the board members are Novell employees.Jun 29 21:14
DaemonFCThat's a community distro?Jun 29 21:14
DaemonFCyou have to persuade at least one Novell employee to vote your way to get something done that the community wants, and all three of them have to vote how their bosses at Novell tell them toJun 29 21:15
DaemonFCso you aren't going to make any meaningful changes to OpenSuse through that processJun 29 21:15
DaemonFCif it was really a "community project with Novell influence" and not a faux community project, it would be more like "The board of directors shall consist of two community members, two Novell employees and a President elected by the board who shall have the deciding vote in the event of a tie" ;)Jun 29 21:18
DaemonFCHow do you become "more independent" of the people paying 3/5ths of your board of directors?Jun 29 21:19
schestowitz[21:15] <DaemonFC> you have to persuade at least one Novell employee to vote your way to get something done that the community wants, and all three of them have to vote how their bosses at Novell tell them toJun 29 21:21
schestowitzThat's why opensuse needs forkingJun 29 21:21
schestowitzAnd individuality is important, so I told MArti to not use kubuntuJun 29 21:22
schestowitzUbuntu is a big of a trademark bullyJun 29 21:22
schestowitzFedora tooJun 29 21:22
schestowitzVisual and nameJun 29 21:22
DaemonFCYou know, there was a sheriff in Tennessee I believe, last year, that decided he was no longer going to seize people's houses on behalf of the banks. I wonder whatever became of him. Or if it involves cement shoes and something about a "prolonged vacation".Jun 29 21:22
DaemonFCPosted by: Ryan | June 29, 2010 at 04:05 PMJun 29 21:22
DaemonFCheheheJun 29 21:22
schestowitzThat's terribleJun 29 21:23
schestowitzVacant houses and people living in carsJun 29 21:23
schestowitzBanks holding empty houses while there are homelessJun 29 21:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: What's funny is that in Oregon they throw the owner out, seize it on behalf of the banks, right?Jun 29 21:23
DaemonFCThen squatters move inJun 29 21:23
DaemonFCand if they can stay there for 6 months and prove it, then state law says the squatters own the propertyJun 29 21:24
DaemonFCnot the bankJun 29 21:24
DaemonFCso I suppose technically, in Oregon, that if you can sneak back in and the bank fails to sell it within 6 months of your illegal possession of the house, you get your house back, legallyJun 29 21:25
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 21:25
DaemonFCbut if the cops catch you living in the house during that 6 months, then you'll get arrestedJun 29 21:26
DaemonFCthey should make a reality show about thatJun 29 21:26
schestowitz[21:26] <DaemonFC> but if the cops catch you living in the house during that 6 months, then you'll get arrestedJun 29 21:26
DaemonFCI'll bet if it happens often enough, that the banks will pay off duty police officers to patrol vacant housesJun 29 21:26
schestowitzGreatJun 29 21:26
schestowitzYour own room and free foodJun 29 21:26
schestowitzAt jailJun 29 21:26
schestowitzThey are well too pamperedJun 29 21:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's why the jails are so crowdedJun 29 21:27
DaemonFCbeats living under a bridgeJun 29 21:27
schestowitzit's like, "hey, whatcha gonna do... I got no home and bed... if you arrest me I'll at least have a bed"Jun 29 21:27
DaemonFCyeah, desperationJun 29 21:27
DaemonFChumans and animals have that in commonJun 29 21:28
schestowitzOr join the armyJun 29 21:28
DaemonFCyou don't want to back someone into a cornerJun 29 21:28
DaemonFCthey'll fight for their last meal just like a wolf willJun 29 21:28
schestowitzA friend of mine just got laid offJun 29 21:28
schestowitzI learned about it todayJun 29 21:28
schestowitzHe works at the gymJun 29 21:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd give them an "incident", if it was meJun 29 21:29
DaemonFCstart taking shots at the police officers from the windowsJun 29 21:29
DaemonFCenough to keep them away long enough for the news to get thereJun 29 21:29
DaemonFC:PJun 29 21:29
schestowitzWot?Jun 29 21:29
DaemonFCof course the news would spin itJun 29 21:30
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/in-the-soccer-time-the-european-union-is-attached-to-high-level-business/Jun 29 21:30
TechrightsTitle: In the soccer time the European Union is attached to high level business « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 18.02 KBJun 29 21:30
DaemonFC"man fighting off police to keep his home" becomes "man was running a meth lab and firing wildly at police officers, who were forced to take him down"Jun 29 21:30
schestowitzYahJun 29 21:31
schestowitzThe cops are always rightJun 29 21:31
schestowitzThe 'crook' they got is always lyingJun 29 21:31
schestowitzIt's commonJun 29 21:31
schestowitzIn TechDirt too threy write about itJun 29 21:31
schestowitzWho take testimony (initial)?Jun 29 21:31
schestowitzPoliceJun 29 21:31
schestowitzWHo to trust? Colleagues (policemen)Jun 29 21:31
schestowitzThat's why people use cameras around cops nowJun 29 21:32
schestowitzAnd they cops bloody hate itJun 29 21:32
DaemonFCschestowitz: What's funny is that my lawyer was also a sitting judge.Jun 29 21:32
DaemonFCin the same countyJun 29 21:32
schestowitzCams are the new guns, as Gizmodo recently put itJun 29 21:32
schestowitzCams get cops firedJun 29 21:32
schestowitz[pun]Jun 29 21:32
DaemonFCso he simply objected to the police testifying against meJun 29 21:32
DaemonFCand the presiding judge agreedJun 29 21:32
DaemonFClolJun 29 21:32
schestowitzWhat happened?Jun 29 21:33
schestowitzYou shot the sheriff?Jun 29 21:33
DaemonFCon the corrupt lawyer rating list, he gets a 9.9 from meJun 29 21:33
schestowitzOr the deputy?Jun 29 21:33
DaemonFCassault and battery, threatening a police officer with a swordJun 29 21:33
DaemonFC:DJun 29 21:34
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wHHhmj7yXU#t=13m30sJun 29 21:34
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schestowitzDaemonFC: you're insaneJun 29 21:34
schestowitzAnd you radicalise the channelJun 29 21:34
DaemonFCI'm actually better without that medicationJun 29 21:34
DaemonFCthey put you on the medication and it makes you schizophrenicJun 29 21:34
DaemonFCI swearJun 29 21:34
schestowitzThey need to confiscate your firearmsJun 29 21:34
schestowitzAlthough SCOTUS gave it the OKJun 29 21:35
DaemonFCyou go on the medication, you start hearing voices and seeing thingsJun 29 21:35
DaemonFCyou go off it, you're much betterJun 29 21:35
DaemonFCyou go on it, you don't sleep for two weeks and have a psychotic breakdownJun 29 21:35
DaemonFCyou stay off it, you'll sleep every nightJun 29 21:35
DaemonFCyeah, I might be eccentric, but the medication they've had me on turns me into a complete psychopathJun 29 21:36
DaemonFCwhy do you think I won't take much of "the list"Jun 29 21:36
DaemonFCAbilify is by far the nastiest psychotropic on the marketJun 29 21:36
DaemonFCthey advertise for it on the TV all the time btwJun 29 21:37
DaemonFCif you want to feel like you're dying, Abilify day threeJun 29 21:37
DaemonFCI didn't stay on it long enough for it to actually kill meJun 29 21:38
DaemonFCbut I'm fairly certain it would have if I gave it a few more daysJun 29 21:38
DaemonFCmy psychiatrist was pissed off at me when I told him I dumped the rest of it in the trash and wouldn't be taking any more of itJun 29 21:38
DaemonFCthey don't like it when you're not declared "legally incompetent" and can tell them what will and won't be happening with regards to your treatmentJun 29 21:39
DaemonFCpsychiatrists like to go to court and lie their asses off about you, they get the government to order you to submit to treatment or go to a state hospitalJun 29 21:40
DaemonFCand then the psychiatrist can start extortion schemes against you with the police as their enforcersJun 29 21:40
schestowitzWeird site: OPERATION GULF GREASE http://www.newswithviews.com/Weeks/darren111.htmJun 29 21:40
TechrightsTitle: Darren Weeks -- Operation Gulf Grease .::. Size~: 53.55 KBJun 29 21:40
schestowitzOne of those hatred against Bama sitesJun 29 21:41
DaemonFC"You don't want to pay me $200 a week? OK, I can call the sheriff and see if he'll fish you out of your apartment, of course I'll have to recommend that you be sent to Richmond, for your own good"Jun 29 21:41
DaemonFC"Now you'll be keeping your appointment, right?"Jun 29 21:41
DaemonFCthat's why it's best to just stay away from psychiatristsJun 29 21:42
DaemonFCthey're the next best thing to the mafiaJun 29 21:42
DaemonFCall the most notorious police states in history used psychiatrists to suppress civilian dissent, schestowitz_logJun 29 21:43
DaemonFCerr schestowitzJun 29 21:43
DaemonFCif you don't agree with what's being done to you, you're "mentally ill", they flag you, they punish you, they blacklist youJun 29 21:44
DaemonFCit goes along with the "if the police arrest you, you're clearly guilty or they wouldn't have arrested you"Jun 29 21:45
DaemonFCpolice and psychiatrists are really the enforcement arm of the government, their word is law which is why they're so scaryJun 29 21:45
DaemonFCanything they say you did, they're rightJun 29 21:45
DaemonFCanything they say happened is what happenedJun 29 21:46
DaemonFCif you argue and try to prove that you're in the right, it's just more proof that you're guilty or nutsJun 29 21:46
DaemonFCthe more you disagree with them, the more correct they becomeJun 29 21:47
ender2070it's impossible for a police officer to lieJun 29 21:47
DaemonFCof courseJun 29 21:47
DaemonFCpolice officers and psychiatrists telling a lie would be defying the will of GodJun 29 21:48
DaemonFCalmighty White GodJun 29 21:48
DaemonFCand we know that nothing can defy HimJun 29 21:48
DaemonFC"The state gets authority from God, and the state gives authority to police officers and psychiatrists"Jun 29 21:48
DaemonFCso by way of means, those police officers and psychiatrists are just the will of God personifiedJun 29 21:49
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 21:49
DaemonFCthey want people to make that connection subconsciously without being actively aware of why it's so important that "God gave the state the authority" ;)Jun 29 21:50
DaemonFCIf the state gives the authority to itself, it immediately becomes possible that the state is corrupt, and so are their agentsJun 29 21:50
DaemonFCit's probably why Communist governments have to be more actively aggressive to hold powerJun 29 21:51
DaemonFCthe only things people fear are God and people with gunsJun 29 21:51
DaemonFCwestern governments keep the guys with guns as the option to turn to when people start questioning the source of the government's authorityJun 29 21:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://bazaarcloud.posterous.com/goldman-sachs-was-rebranded-according-to-newJun 29 21:52
TechrightsTitle: Goldman Sachs Was Rebranded According to New Yorkers - Bazaar Cloud .::. Size~: 26.17 KBJun 29 21:52
DaemonFCthe Communists keep the guys with guns as their first line of defenseJun 29 21:52
DaemonFC86% of Americans believe in God, and if you go all throughout Europe, the number ranges in the 60s and 70s as far as percentJun 29 21:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: catching up w/ what you wroteJun 29 21:53
DaemonFCwith numbers that high believing on some level that the state is the arm of God, they don't have to resort to threats of violence as often as states where religion is bannedJun 29 21:53
squarepegDaemonFC: it's bad to ever admit to any psychological problems unless its self-evident to everyone, based upon something you didJun 29 21:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: lower than that in EuropeJun 29 21:54
squarepegif it's debatable, don't ever accept anyone's diagnosis of any personality disorderJun 29 21:54
DaemonFCsquarepeg: What's funny is socialized medicineJun 29 21:54
schestowitzAbout 10% in some Scandinavian countriesJun 29 21:54
DaemonFCthe purpose being that medical records become socialized tooJun 29 21:54
DaemonFCand are easier for the next psychiatrist to getJun 29 21:54
schestowitz'God' is just laws of natureJun 29 21:54
schestowitzNothing godly about itJun 29 21:54
schestowitzJust a metaphor like that used by physicistsJun 29 21:54
DaemonFCin the United States, the next psychiatrist you see won't have any way to know what the last guy said about youJun 29 21:54
squarepegif you chop your pet's head off, it'll be objectively established that you're crazyJun 29 21:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: you can push-pollJun 29 21:55
DaemonFCand if you see 10 different psychiatrists, you'll get 10 different answers as to what's wrong with youJun 29 21:55
schestowitzBelief depends on how you ask the questionJun 29 21:55
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovellJun 29 21:55
DaemonFCit makes them look unreliableJun 29 21:55
DaemonFCthey don't like thatJun 29 21:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Did I scare any new Open Source users - By John Joshph http://post.ly/lE2BJun 29 21:55
TechrightsTitle:         Did I scare any new Open Source users - By John Joshph - LUG@IITD Community Blog     .::. Size~: 30.4 KBJun 29 21:55
DaemonFCthey'd much rather have socialized medicine in the US because (1) it lets them take as much money from the taxpayers as they see fit to give themselvesJun 29 21:56
squarepegi have nothing against the practice of psychiatry, but I won't subject myself to any kind of professional opinionJun 29 21:56
DaemonFCand (2) it makes it easier for the next asshole to back the last guy upJun 29 21:56
DaemonFCmakes Psychiatry look more like a science and not just bullshit made up on the spotJun 29 21:56
squarepegit's not without merit, but it's not a hard science Jun 29 21:56
DaemonFCPsychiatry is voodooJun 29 21:57
DaemonFCit's whatever you want it to beJun 29 21:57
squarepegit is what it isJun 29 21:57
DaemonFCit's purely a subjective opinion of the observer (the Psychiatrist)Jun 29 21:57
DaemonFCresults that can change from person to person don't qualify as scienceJun 29 21:57
schestowitzThey read the same booksJun 29 21:57
schestowitzGo to name collegedJun 29 21:57
schestowitzSo they ought to think alikeJun 29 21:58
DaemonFCPsychiatric results change from Psychiatrist to Psychiatrist, regularlyJun 29 21:58
schestowitzBased on their guru de jour, like FreudJun 29 21:58
schestowitzUncle on world's scum, Edward BernaysJun 29 21:58
DaemonFCenough to erase any doubt in the outside observer that Psychiatry is a pseudoscienceJun 29 21:58
schestowitz /on/ofJun 29 21:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: pychopathJun 29 21:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: Psychiatry attempts to standardize resultsJun 29 21:58
schestowitz*psyJun 29 21:58
DaemonFCbased on test batteriesJun 29 21:58
DaemonFCbut those obviously don't standardize anythingJun 29 21:58
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Carbon Currency - A new beginning for technocracy? http://2tu.us/2dfxJun 29 21:59
schestowitzThey know how to do the PR thing with psyche of peopleJun 29 21:59
DaemonFCif the results can changeJun 29 21:59
schestowitzHow to deceive peopleJun 29 21:59
schestowitzFor war, not just productsJun 29 21:59
schestowitzVery dangrousJun 29 21:59
schestowitzMaking people stop their thinkingJun 29 21:59
schestowitz[21:58] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Psychiatry attempts to standardize resultsJun 29 21:59
schestowitzYes, there is 'norm' referenceJun 29 21:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: Psychiatry using it's own test batteries to back itself up is no different than Scientologists using their E-MeterJun 29 21:59
schestowitzSo when you deviate from the norm, then you need to pay a shrinkJun 29 21:59
schestowitzThe idea is, the definition they set to be normal is define as 'healthy subject'Jun 29 22:00
schestowitzNot conformist means illJun 29 22:00
schestowitzSome people still consider to be lesbians to be 'ill'Jun 29 22:00
schestowitzOr people who want to be hippiedJun 29 22:00
schestowitz*ppiesJun 29 22:00
DaemonFCright, it's a scale based on an arbitrary point and deviance from that arbitrary pointJun 29 22:00
schestowitzThe latter is an alternative lifestyleJun 29 22:00
DaemonFCso it's corrupt by the very definitionJun 29 22:00
DaemonFCam I right?Jun 29 22:00
schestowitzDependsJun 29 22:01
DaemonFCespecially when the results are influenced further by the Psychiatrist himselfJun 29 22:01
schestowitzIn Saudi Arabia you'd be a crazy women to show your faceJun 29 22:01
schestowitzFor easy breathingJun 29 22:01
DaemonFCPsychiatrists obviously influence the test outcomeJun 29 22:01
schestowitz*womanJun 29 22:01
DaemonFCotherwise identical subject, identical test = identical outcomesJun 29 22:01
schestowitzShrinks adjust peopleJun 29 22:01
schestowitzit's calibrating to a model subjectJun 29 22:02
DaemonFCso it's obvious that their own test and scale of normality and deviance is not rock solidJun 29 22:02
schestowitz"Get a girlfriend, get 3 kids, buy 2 cars..."Jun 29 22:02
schestowitz=normalJun 29 22:02
schestowitz"You'll be happy, trust us" :-)Jun 29 22:02
DaemonFCyou forget dog and white picket fenceJun 29 22:02
DaemonFCbut that's OK, you jsut need pillsJun 29 22:02
schestowitzIt's a self-fulfilling thingJun 29 22:02
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 22:02
schestowitzIf they do the PR enough then you set these as goalsJun 29 22:02
schestowitzThen you fulfil them and get happyJun 29 22:02
DaemonFCschestowitz: So the pills, you agree that those are punishment or chemical restraints, right?Jun 29 22:03
schestowitzWhat's flawed here is the imposed definition of goalwsJun 29 22:03
DaemonFCnot therapyJun 29 22:03
schestowitzIn the US it's very warped. Wealth is everythingJun 29 22:03
ender2070schestowitz - isn't it 2 and a half kids ?Jun 29 22:03
DaemonFCthe pills punish you for disagreeing with them, or make you passive enough to go along with whatever you're toldJun 29 22:04
schestowitzYou can be a good person but if you're quite broke like Jimmy Wales, Fox will defame youJun 29 22:04
schestowitzIf you're BillG, you'd hire an army of PR agentsJun 29 22:04
schestowitzProfessional 9-5 liarsJun 29 22:04
schestowitzSome people make food (farming)Jun 29 22:04
schestowitzSome people make housesJun 29 22:04
DaemonFCwasn't the "child porn" in reference to an album cover that was widely sold in the US and throughout Europe in the 70s or something?Jun 29 22:05
schestowitzSome people work 9-5 glorifying one personJun 29 22:05
schestowitz300 days a year :0)Jun 29 22:05
DaemonFCso it's not kiddie porn in that contextJun 29 22:05
schestowitzProductive societyJun 29 22:05
ender2070BillG is helping bring about a single world governmentJun 29 22:05
DaemonFCbut when Wikipedia references it 40 years later, it is?Jun 29 22:05
DaemonFCby Fox's allegations, Nirvana's Nevermind is kiddie pornJun 29 22:05
DaemonFChosted by WikipediaJun 29 22:05
schestowitz[22:03] <ender2070> schestowitz - isn't it 2 and a half kids ?Jun 29 22:05
DaemonFCand that was 1991Jun 29 22:05
schestowitzNot enougn to pay back national debtJun 29 22:05
schestowitzThe only way to keep up the debt is increased workforce size over timeJun 29 22:06
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NevermindJun 29 22:06
TechrightsTitle: Nevermind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 112.94 KBJun 29 22:06
DaemonFCoh no, symbols!Jun 29 22:06
ender2070that doesnt work when all your industries get shipped over to China and IndiaJun 29 22:06
DaemonFCthe symbols!Jun 29 22:06
schestowitzOtherwise you drown in your own debt. it's like a Petri dish bubble experimentJun 29 22:06
DaemonFCban the symbolJun 29 22:06
DaemonFCit's porn!!!Jun 29 22:06
DaemonFCclearly not art, porn!!!Jun 29 22:06
DaemonFCillegal porn!Jun 29 22:06
DaemonFCzomg!!!!Jun 29 22:06
schestowitz[22:05] <ender2070> BillG is helping bring about a single world governmentJun 29 22:06
schestowitz /was/?Jun 29 22:07
schestowitzIt already exists in some wayJun 29 22:07
schestowitzThe rich people run thingsJun 29 22:07
schestowitzMostly European and AmericanJun 29 22:07
DaemonFCwe can't let people see that, it alludes to the fact that we're all brought up from birth being taught that the only point of life is to acquire wealthJun 29 22:07
schestowitzThey just tip the candidates for their serviceJun 29 22:07
DaemonFCbut that this is a falsehood!Jun 29 22:07
schestowitzBillG lobbies Harper Jun 29 22:07
DaemonFCit's not a falsehood, that's the truth!Jun 29 22:07
schestowitzI have an article about it tomorrowJun 29 22:07
DaemonFCthe only point in living it to get a lot of moneyJun 29 22:07
schestowitzharper then paid for BillG's businessJun 29 22:07
schestowitzAlong with G8Jun 29 22:07
schestowitzHarper is a good lapdogJun 29 22:08
schestowitzBillG is surrogate Queen of Canada ;:-)Jun 29 22:08
schestowitzHim and othersJun 29 22:08
schestowitzThe F8Jun 29 22:08
DaemonFCschestowitz: We interrupt Glenn Beck to bring you........the Hypnotoaaaaaaaaad....Jun 29 22:08
schestowitzFortune 8 :-)Jun 29 22:08
schestowitzFortune 100Jun 29 22:08
DaemonFCAll Glory to the Hypnotoad!Jun 29 22:08
schestowitzHeheJun 29 22:08
schestowitzIsn't Glen the toad?Jun 29 22:09
DaemonFCyeahJun 29 22:09
schestowitzHeheJun 29 22:09
*MinceR selects gates and presses F8Jun 29 22:09
schestowitz"Obama is a Marxxxist!"Jun 29 22:09
schestowitzGedim GET 'IM!Jun 29 22:09
DaemonFCObama is a Marxist Lenninist that supports the MPAAJun 29 22:09
schestowitzMinceR: not in NC.exeJun 29 22:09
schestowitzor iexplorer.exeJun 29 22:10
DaemonFCso he's a Marxist-Lenninist except when he's a RepublicanJun 29 22:10
schestowitzKDE uses "Del"Jun 29 22:10
MinceRkde uses configurable hotkeys :>Jun 29 22:10
schestowitzHeheJun 29 22:10
schestowitzDeltreeJun 29 22:10
schestowitzRemember?Jun 29 22:10
MinceRindeedJun 29 22:11
schestowitzDell has a plant-a-tree BS campaignJun 29 22:11
schestowitzLike the Windows/DOS commandJun 29 22:11
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=Dell+has+a+plant-a-tree+&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Jun 29 22:11
TechrightsTitle: Dell has a plant-a-tree - Google Search .::. Size~: 39.73 KBJun 29 22:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Mozilla and the P2PU School of Webcraft - http://bit.ly/dwyrAt this looks like a really good idea #mozilla #drumbeat #webcraftJun 29 22:11
schestowitzhttp://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/about_dell/values/environment/tree?c=us&l=enJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCWikipediaJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCWikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.Jun 29 22:11
DaemonFCwww.wikipedia.org/ - Cached - SimilarEnglishJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCLady GagaJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCLostJun 29 22:11
schestowitzAwwwwww........ :-) :-)Jun 29 22:11
DaemonFCJustin BieberDeaths in 2009Jun 29 22:11
DaemonFCRorschach testJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCAvatarJun 29 22:11
DaemonFCLil WayneJun 29 22:11
MinceRi hope those trees are not "RoadReady"Jun 29 22:11
TechrightsTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 29 22:12
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/technology/29dell.htmlJun 29 22:12
TechrightsTitle: In Suit Over Faulty Computers, Window to Dell’s Fall - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 78.17 KBJun 29 22:12
schestowitzvia /.Jun 29 22:12
DaemonFCI'll take "I see Justin Bieber naked in the Rorschach Test and go to jail for mental possession of contraband" for $500Jun 29 22:12
DaemonFCWikipedia made me do it!Jun 29 22:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Analysis: Why Silicon Valley should fear ACTA - http://bit.ly/cVHGQg galvanising computer companies to fight #acta is crucial #siliconvalleyJun 29 22:12
TechrightsTitle: Analysis: Why Silicon Valley should fear ACTA - Security - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au .::. Size~: 81.01 KBJun 29 22:12
MinceRschestowitz: this is relevant to my interestsJun 29 22:12
schestowitzI found out yesterday that SteveO from jackass got arrestedJun 29 22:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] @FOSSpatents quote?Jun 29 22:13
schestowitzWinterford...Jun 29 22:13
schestowitzMicrosoft moutherJun 29 22:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/01/30/quick-mention-brett-winterford-at-it-again-microsoft-mouthpiece/Jun 29 22:14
TechrightsTitle: Quick Mention:  Brett Winterford at It Again (Microsoft Mouthpiece) | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.43 KBJun 29 22:14
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2008/01/29/journalists-digest-odf-fud/Jun 29 22:14
TechrightsTitle: Brett Winterford Had Kool-Aid in Redmond (and Then Came ODF FUD) | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.33 KBJun 29 22:14
MinceRLOLJun 29 22:14
MinceR"Dell examined the machines. The company came up with an unusual reason for the computers’ demise: the school had overtaxed the machines by making them perform difficult math calculations."Jun 29 22:14
schestowitzhttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_VIRGIN_ISLANDS_INVESTMENT_FRAUD?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTJun 29 22:15
TechrightsTitle: Associated Press News - ReviewJournal.com .::. Size~: 56.24 KBJun 29 22:15
MinceRso dell computers are perfect as long as you don't use them and don't move themJun 29 22:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ACTA Negotiators Respond To Questions About ACTA; More Of The Same - http://bit.ly/d0P5af but revealing too #actaJun 29 22:16
TechrightsTitle: ACTA Negotiators Respond To Questions About ACTA; More Of The Same | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.54 KBJun 29 22:16
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/27/AR2010062701754.html?wprss=rss_business/economyJun 29 22:16
TechrightsTitle: President Obama urges G-20 nations to spend; they pledge to halve deficits .::. Size~: 107.85 KBJun 29 22:16
schestowitzHypocriteJun 29 22:16
ender2070What did SteveO get arrested for?Jun 29 22:17
schestowitzDrugsJun 29 22:17
schestowitzOr somethingJun 29 22:17
ender2070ahh figuresJun 29 22:17
schestowitzSearch YouTubeJun 29 22:17
ender2070gotta be on drugs to do that stuffJun 29 22:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Net Neutrality Opponents Outspending Proponents More Than 4 to 1 - http://bit.ly/cyj3a2 which tells you something about those againstJun 29 22:18
TechrightsTitle: Net Neutrality Opponents Outspending Proponents More Than 4 to 1 .::. Size~: 57.99 KBJun 29 22:18
DaemonFCschestowitz: I have a freezer full of Dominos Cinna SticksJun 29 22:20
DaemonFCwant some?Jun 29 22:20
DaemonFCthey're deliciousJun 29 22:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Cisco Simplifies Mobile Collaboration with First-of-its- kind HD Video-Capable Business Tablet - http://bit.ly/d3piyR important bit: androidJun 29 22:20
TechrightsTitle: Cisco Simplifies Mobile Collaboration with First-of-its- kind HD Video-Capable Business Tablet -> Cisco News .::. Size~: 38.91 KBJun 29 22:20
DaemonFCthey put an online coupon on their site that says enter coupon code "CINNA" and get a free 8 piece Cinna Sticks with any orderJun 29 22:20
DaemonFCbut it didn't say you had to order anything elseJun 29 22:21
DaemonFCand there is no limit per customerJun 29 22:21
DaemonFCso all you have to do is stand in the restaurant with your phone and punch in orders for Cinna SticksJun 29 22:21
DaemonFClolJun 29 22:21
*DaemonFC has no shameJun 29 22:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] it is hard to see how the opponents of software patents could successfully lobby the United States Congress http://ur1.ca/0fymlJun 29 22:23
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft was against software patents before it was for them  | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 81.84 KBJun 29 22:23
DaemonFCthis morning I had Cinna Sticks and a pot of cinnamon coffeeJun 29 22:24
DaemonFCmmmmJun 29 22:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Junto: overview of concept, philosophy, and components - http://bit.ly/cHzLpe "environment for open discussion, with a public backchannel"Jun 29 22:25
TechrightsTitle: Junto: overview of concept, philosophy, and components « emergent by design .::. Size~: 59.75 KBJun 29 22:25
ender2070I added the 'Go Programming' feature to the Fedora Wiki and I submitted it for F14 approvalJun 29 22:27
ender2070:DJun 29 22:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Jared Smith is the new Fedora Project Leader - http://bit.ly/cj335O "passing the baton" - shouldn't that be "passing the hat"? #linuxJun 29 22:27
TechrightsTitle: Jared Smith is the new Fedora Project Leader [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 12.7 KBJun 29 22:27
ender2070https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Go_ProgrammingJun 29 22:28
TechrightsTitle: Features/Go Programming - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 19.1 KBJun 29 22:28
schestowitzzoobab: http://twitter.com/actonline/statuses/17341061377 "Don't agree w/ it all, but @FOSSpatents delivers the most insightful analysis of who lost in #Bilski http://bit.ly/dzlqCH #patent #swpat"Jun 29 22:29
TechrightsTitle: Twitter / ACT Online: Don't agree w/ it all, but ... .::. Size~: 8.74 KBJun 29 22:29
TechrightsTitle: FOSS Patents: Who lost Bilski vs. Kappos besides Bilski & Warsaw? Ten answers .::. Size~: 64.33 KBJun 29 22:29
schestowitzACT and Muller... love?Jun 29 22:29
ender2070lolJun 29 22:31
schestowitzzoobab: ACK?Jun 29 22:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dutch Public Television Tries BitTorrent Downloads - http://bit.ly/bNBIAa Rembrandt, Ruisdael - and now this: what a civilised peopleJun 29 22:33
TechrightsTitle:    Dutch Public Television Tries BitTorrent Downloads | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.81 KBJun 29 22:33
schestowitzMueller also mailed me some pointer to ACTJun 29 22:33
schestowitzLike he's cool with themJun 29 22:33
schestowitzender2070: Jan will avengeJun 29 22:37
schestowitzhe hates GoogleJun 29 22:37
DaemonFC*satellite crashes into the kitchen* "My landlord can probably fix this, he cleaned out the rain gutters once"Jun 29 22:38
DaemonFCRocko's Modern LifeJun 29 22:38
DaemonFCbest cartoon line ever, per meJun 29 22:38
DaemonFChttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80716756/Jun 29 22:39
TechrightsTitle: rockos modern life sexual inuendos Video .::. Size~: 47.03 KBJun 29 22:39
DaemonFCheheJun 29 22:39
ender2070DaemonFC - Aqua Teen Hunger Force (actually)Jun 29 22:39
*dominiks has quit (Quit: Leaving)Jun 29 22:42
DaemonFCender2070: Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger ForceJun 29 22:45
ender2070heheheJun 29 22:45
DaemonFC"Now to shine some sun, where the sun don't shine!"Jun 29 22:45
DaemonFC"Hand Banana, no!!!!'Jun 29 22:45
schestowitz"sexual" and "rocko" in the same video sounds improperJun 29 22:46
DaemonFChttp://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/5/25/633788846891149840-HandBanana.jpgJun 29 22:46
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 29 22:46
schestowitzAnd now "hand banana"? Ryan, you've got to stop thisJun 29 22:46
ender2070its from aqua teenJun 29 22:46
schestowitzThey still exist?Jun 29 22:47
schestowitzMamma mia!!!!Jun 29 22:47
schestowitzOh wait.Jun 29 22:47
schestowitzI though Abba TeenJun 29 22:47
ender2070Aqua Teen Hunger ForceJun 29 22:47
DaemonFChttp://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/BlackLyon/Handbanana-1.pngJun 29 22:48
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 29 22:48
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B4SXRbtzJ4Jun 29 22:48
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Aqua Teen Hunger Force Best of Meatwad Interview .::. Size~: 103.97 KBJun 29 22:48
schestowitzCoooorny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xkq6q3SREgJun 29 22:48
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- A*Teens - Mamma Mia .::. Size~: 111.12 KBJun 29 22:48
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAKL3Og-zGcJun 29 22:48
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Hand Banana .::. Size~: 87.38 KBJun 29 22:48
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0geHA2yHSZIJun 29 22:49
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Ray Comfort Banana Man and Kirk Cameron Epic FAIL .::. Size~: 92.78 KBJun 29 22:49
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UklGfz_zSAA&feature=relatedJun 29 22:50
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Spore Creature-HandBanana .::. Size~: 87.61 KBJun 29 22:50
ender2070ROFLJun 29 22:50
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp2CkuhkqXQ&feature=relatedJun 29 22:51
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Tax Evasion .::. Size~: 90.57 KBJun 29 22:51
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhTqdbBI0XQJun 29 22:51
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Mooninites Quotes .::. Size~: 91.95 KBJun 29 22:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Six nouns, six verb, who knows - http://bit.ly/9SnFjF wow, impressive #language #crashblossomJun 29 22:52
DaemonFC"Oh no no no no no, just stay right there, let me get my gun" - Carl to the IRS guyJun 29 22:52
DaemonFC:DJun 29 22:52
TechrightsTitle: Language Log » Six nouns, six verbs, who knows .::. Size~: 44.96 KBJun 29 22:52
DaemonFC"The government is a myth created by the rap industry to sell their crappy music" :DJun 29 22:55
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kdP8WBB4lI&feature=relatedJun 29 22:56
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Aqua Teen Hunger Force Boston Bomb Scare .::. Size~: 96.14 KBJun 29 22:56
DaemonFCheheJun 29 22:56
zoobab~[6~[6~[C[6~[6~[6~Jun 29 22:57
zoobab[5~[5~[6~[6~lsJun 29 22:57
zoobabsorryJun 29 22:57
DaemonFCender2070: You're right, ATHF is the best cartoon everJun 29 22:57
DaemonFCthe Boston Bomb Scare put them over the to[Jun 29 22:57
DaemonFC*topJun 29 22:57
DaemonFCender2070: Anyone who has a Lite Brite is a terroristJun 29 22:59
DaemonFCFox News said it wasn't funny, but I was laughing so hard I about shit myselfJun 29 23:00
ender2070lolJun 29 23:00
ender2070i thought it was funnyJun 29 23:00
schestowitzzoobab: did you see the ACT thing"Jun 29 23:00
schestowitz?Jun 29 23:00
schestowitzHe links to them, they link to himJun 29 23:00
schestowitzFlorianJun 29 23:00
DaemonFChttp://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/mooninite.jpgJun 29 23:01
DaemonFC:DJun 29 23:01
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBJun 29 23:01
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6iHEJEnYkIJun 29 23:01
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Aqua Teen Hunger Force Lite Brite Bomb Scare .::. Size~: 75.9 KBJun 29 23:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A failed ad-based business model by HP & Yahoo, printing ads in your living room - http://bit.ly/c2giSw "no value for the consumer": daftJun 29 23:02
TechrightsTitle: A failed ad-based business model by HP & Yahoo, printing ads in your living room | The Board Of Innovation - Business and revenue model innovation .::. Size~: 24.37 KBJun 29 23:02
schestowitzThe ink mafiaJun 29 23:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody A failed ad-based business model by HP & Yahoo, printing ads in your living room - http://bit.ly/c2giSwJun 29 23:04
TechrightsTitle: A failed ad-based business model by HP & Yahoo, printing ads in your living room | The Board Of Innovation - Business and revenue model innovation .::. Size~: 24.37 KBJun 29 23:04
DaemonFC"People who get up at the crack of noon in their parents basements knew more about the devices [than the bomb squad]"Jun 29 23:05
*DaemonFC head desksJun 29 23:05
schestowitzCartridges cost more than the printerJun 29 23:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Biotech and the Supremes: Prometheus Follows Bilski to Highest Court (For Just a Moment) - http://bit.ly/9BRivt bilski has arrived #patentsJun 29 23:05
TechrightsTitle: Breaking: Biotech and the Supremes: Prometheus Follows Bilski to Highest Court (For Just a Moment) .::. Size~: 46.11 KBJun 29 23:05
schestowitzcheck out the page aboveJun 29 23:07
schestowitzTypical lawyers Web siteJun 29 23:07
DaemonFCI just thought of a patent I could apply for using my shower drain filter as the basisJun 29 23:07
schestowitzCatalogue of charlatans in suitsJun 29 23:07
schestowitzLooking who/what to tax nextJun 29 23:07
schestowitz*forJun 29 23:07
DaemonFCSystem for notifying the owner that the shower drain needs augeredJun 29 23:07
DaemonFCClaim 1: The drain filter changes appearance gradually, until it looks like Chewbacca has been using the shower stall for 3 years.Jun 29 23:08
DaemonFCClaim 2: When water no longer drains from the shower properly.Jun 29 23:08
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 23:08
DaemonFCMethod of cleaning the shower drain filter.Jun 29 23:09
DaemonFCClaim 1: Using a flathead screwdriver and blow torch to pry out the hairballs which are held together with soap scum.Jun 29 23:09
DaemonFC:DJun 29 23:09
schestowitzhttp://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/06/28/gnome-developer-training-in-danger/Jun 29 23:16
TechrightsTitle: Safe as Milk  » Blog Archive   » GNOME Developer Training in danger .::. Size~: 31.47 KBJun 29 23:16
DaemonFCender2070: That surgical scrub I got while dumpster diving makes a great bath soap tooJun 29 23:18
*DaemonFC likes dumpster diving \Jun 29 23:18
schestowitzhttp://www.everythingandroid.org/droid-x-arrives-and-froyo-goes-open-source/2010/06/23/Jun 29 23:19
TechrightsTitle: Droid X Arrives, and Froyo Goes Open Source! .::. Size~: 26.39 KBJun 29 23:19
DaemonFCschestowitz: Did you see the new Firefox look that they copied from Opera?Jun 29 23:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: east soap scum :-)Jun 29 23:19
schestowitzFrom the cellpit Jun 29 23:19
schestowitzhttp://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/first-fedora-design-ninja-identified/Jun 29 23:20
TechrightsTitle: First Fedora Design Bounty Ninja identified! «  Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 33.53 KBJun 29 23:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: any thoughts on the 'leak' of Vista 8?Jun 29 23:24
schestowitzIt's not leaked, it's vapourware. All those posts that are promoted are just Microsoft's guerrilla marketing.Jun 29 23:24
schestowitzI reckon...Jun 29 23:25
DaemonFC<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" /> <script>for (x in document.write) { document.write(x);}</script>Jun 29 23:27
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 23:27
DaemonFCput that in your pages and it will crash all versions of IEJun 29 23:28
ender2070Konquerer still doesn't pass Acid 3Jun 29 23:28
ender2070even with webkitJun 29 23:28
DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/MfQ2KKZzJun 29 23:30
TechrightsTitle: <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compati - Ryan - MfQ2KKZz - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 15.98 KBJun 29 23:30
DaemonFCheheJun 29 23:30
schestowitzINK CARTEL :-)  http://identi.ca/conversation/38563495#notice-38803981 "talk about a conflict of business models- ads served for free, printouts at 75 cents a piece"Jun 29 23:37
TechrightsTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.32 KBJun 29 23:37
schestowitzIs it *that* expensive? Doubt it..Jun 29 23:37
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIq0UrVlbXYJun 29 23:45
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Mr. Deity and the Void .::. Size~: 99.75 KBJun 29 23:45
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I installed adblock plus on the copy of Firefox at the libraryJun 29 23:52
DaemonFCthen refreshed the page I wanted to printJun 29 23:53
DaemonFC:PJun 29 23:53
DaemonFCof course I had to figure out how to install Firefox firstJun 29 23:53
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c29jrX645-IJun 29 23:55
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Daily Show Edit of Nazi Obama Reference from Competitive Enterprise Institute Fair? .::. Size~: 111.94 KBJun 29 23:55

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