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DaemonFCThe Microsoft Bob PhoneJul 01 00:00
DaemonFC:PJul 01 00:00
MinceR:>Jul 01 00:01
DaemonFC"The Kin devices were the result of extensive development under the code name "Project Pink," and based in part on technologies acquired by Microsoft in its $500 million purchase of Danger Inc" "Microsoft has neither confirmed nor denied reports that only 500 of the Kins were sold since the launch last month."Jul 01 00:01
DaemonFCWow, that's $1 million a phoneJul 01 00:01
DaemonFCbut at least they got $50 back from each oneJul 01 00:01
DaemonFCThat's like a rebate or something!Jul 01 00:01
DaemonFC"Additionally, we are integrating our KIN team with the Windows Phone 7 team, incorporating valuable ideas and technologies from KIN into future Windows Phone releases,"Jul 01 00:02
DaemonFCDear investors, we didn't waste your money, we recycled it!Jul 01 00:02
DaemonFC:DJul 01 00:02
MinceRlolJul 01 00:02
MinceRwe didn't waste your money, it gave us some nice warmth in the fireplaceJul 01 00:03
DaemonFCMinceR, According to Statcounter, Bing only brought MSN/Live Search from 3.25% market share since the rebranding to 3.75% as of this monthJul 01 00:04
DaemonFCouchJul 01 00:04
MinceRlolJul 01 00:04
DaemonFCthat's a lot of money to maybe have brought Google down half a percentJul 01 00:04
Diablo-D3fireplace?Jul 01 00:04
Diablo-D3is that where you get firefoxes?Jul 01 00:05
*Diablo-D3 runsJul 01 00:05
MinceR:>Jul 01 00:05
DaemonFCHow do you tell your investors you spent $1 billion in rebranding, development, and bribes to gain a half a percent on your competitor?Jul 01 00:06
DaemonFCWell, they did increase their marketshare by 13.4%Jul 01 00:06
MinceRthey'll lieJul 01 00:06
DaemonFCthat's probably the best way they could put it without lyingJul 01 00:06
MinceRthey'll claim that their new Bing-o (was his name-o) site got 3.75% market share from nothing.Jul 01 00:06
DaemonFCso basically just don't count that Live Search had 3.25% before they called it Bing?Jul 01 00:07
MinceRindeedJul 01 00:07
Diablo-D3bingoJul 01 00:07
*Diablo-D3 cant unsee ;_;Jul 01 00:07
DaemonFCBing is one of the search options in Chrome, Chrome also defaults to Bing if that's your IE default searchJul 01 00:07
DaemonFCso it's almost like Google felt bad for them and is trying to help outJul 01 00:08
DaemonFC:DJul 01 00:08
DaemonFC"Hey, we TRIED to give you all the Chrome users on Windows, but they went and changed it back to Google, sorry!"Jul 01 00:08
DaemonFCB-)Jul 01 00:08
MinceRDiablo-D3: "bingo" is what you say if you've managed to find a relevant page with it.Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFCOh my god, I did find the right link, it was on page 9 all along!Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFCGod this is wonderful!Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFCHow did I live without it?Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFC:)Jul 01 00:09
DaemonFCMinceR, Those ads where they have the guy going nuts over the "Brand X" engine that's obviously supposed to be Google was funnyJul 01 00:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Did I not say the #kin would flop? #microsoft has axed it. www.neowin.net/news/ding-dong-the-microsoft-kin-is-deadJul 01 00:10
DaemonFC"The links, so many of them, so useless!!" or something like thatJul 01 00:10
DaemonFCit's almost like they were describing themselvesJul 01 00:10
Diablo-D3aww goblin isnt in here againJul 01 00:11
DaemonFCMinceR, I had to nab all the Fanboy adblock plus list links from Firefox to use in Chrome because Adblock for Chrome only lists EasyListJul 01 00:11
DaemonFCwhich misses all the pornographic ads in Russian warez sites for some reasonJul 01 00:12
DaemonFCFanboy manages to block them :)Jul 01 00:12
schestowitzFlorian defends Microsoft's buddy SAP now???Jul 01 00:12
schestowitzWhat a weird positionJul 01 00:13
Diablo-D3SAP isnt so badJul 01 00:13
Diablo-D3they use JavaJul 01 00:13
*Diablo-D3 runsJul 01 00:13
DaemonFCI've never laughed so hard in my life until I listened to the MPAA plant talk about how the US government is going to brow beat Russia into giving a shit about warez sitesJul 01 00:13
DaemonFCthat one had me in stitchesJul 01 00:13
DaemonFCshe managed to say the shit without cracking a smileJul 01 00:13
DaemonFCthat's either ignorance or talentJul 01 00:13
MinceRdon't they wishJul 01 00:13
MinceRthey'll have to bribe the russians directlyJul 01 00:13
DaemonFCright, as in lots of money to every Russian politician that has a vote in the matterJul 01 00:14
MinceRexactlyJul 01 00:14
DaemonFCHow much you think the bribes will cost in the end?Jul 01 00:14
MinceRa ludicrous amountJul 01 00:14
DaemonFCthere's like almost 400 of them in the DumaJul 01 00:14
DaemonFCthen they have to get Medvedev to sign itJul 01 00:14
DaemonFCright?Jul 01 00:14
DaemonFCRussia is the real problem for themJul 01 00:15
DaemonFCsince it's not a typical little country that they can easily bribe or crush with sanctionsJul 01 00:15
MinceRand the PRCJul 01 00:15
DaemonFClike Hungary (no offense) :DJul 01 00:15
MinceRbasically they have the usian government in their pockets nowJul 01 00:16
MinceRbut not every government answers to the usian governmentJul 01 00:16
DaemonFCpretty muchJul 01 00:16
MinceRso they're going to have to buy some more governmentsJul 01 00:16
DaemonFCthey can't afford to buy every government it would take to shut down "piracy"Jul 01 00:17
DaemonFCand even if they could, that wouldn't stop magnet links that used .onion sites as a trackerJul 01 00:17
DaemonFCwould it?Jul 01 00:17
MinceRpiracy always finds a way, mateyJul 01 00:17
DaemonFCthat's going to be hilarious, when they drive Bittorrent onto TOR-only pseudo-sitesJul 01 00:18
MinceRnahJul 01 00:18
DaemonFCand can't figure out where the hell to go nextJul 01 00:18
MinceRBT can already do trackerless operation via DHTJul 01 00:18
MinceRjust like any real P2P filesharing systemJul 01 00:18
DaemonFCright, but an index is still handyJul 01 00:18
MinceRBT was particularly vulnerable without DHT and it still thrivesJul 01 00:18
schestowitz"PDF1/A is ISO spec and pretty much out of Adobe's hands, its a rare successful transition from proprietary to standard." http://twitter.com/Codepope/status/17421539302Jul 01 00:18
TechrightsTitle: Twitter / Dj Walker-Morgan: @schestowitz PDF1/A is ISO ... .::. Size~: 11.44 KBJul 01 00:18
DaemonFCI mean watch the indexes end up on  .onionsJul 01 00:18
MinceRfreenet works tooJul 01 00:19
schestowitzIt looks better on paper than in practice. And ISO is corrupt (not just OOXML).Jul 01 00:19
DaemonFCThey can't get an injunction against a .onion Jul 01 00:19
MinceRthe MAFIAA's been fighting this uphill battle for a while nowJul 01 00:19
DaemonFCthey'd have to know who was operating it and whereJul 01 00:19
DaemonFCschestowitz, Adobe Reader is a crockJul 01 00:20
DaemonFCif PDF relied on it, it would be unpopularJul 01 00:20
DaemonFCthe setup file for Adobe Reader on Windows is 500% the size of Foxit Reader, and Foxit Reader is twice the size of SumatraPDFJul 01 00:20
DaemonFC:)Jul 01 00:20
DaemonFCso Adobe Reader is like 5-10 times the reasonable size for what it doesJul 01 00:21
DaemonFCWhy is it so bloated? What could it possibly be doing?Jul 01 00:22
DaemonFCProbably typical Windows shovelware, poorly built, installs system services, plugs up your web browsers with crap toolbars you didn't requestJul 01 00:23
DaemonFCI'll be damned if I'll install it and find outJul 01 00:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Year Of The #Linux is Here http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7817/1.htmlJul 01 00:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Visuals Goods for #GNU #Linux : #Compiz , Docks http://ur1.ca/0gu29 http://ur1.ca/0gu2b http://ur1.ca/0gu2c http://ur1.ca/0gu2dJul 01 00:24
TechrightsTitle:    The Year Of The Linux& Everything Else |   Linux Magazine .::. Size~: 45.49 KBJul 01 00:24
TechrightsTitle: Linux and Whatever  » Blog Archive   » Awesome Compiz Skydome images .::. Size~: 11.26 KBJul 01 00:24
TechrightsTitle: Linux and Whatever  » Blog Archive   » Compiz Switch .::. Size~: 10.4 KBJul 01 00:24
TechrightsTitle: Ubuntu Notifications (osd-notify) Sucks, notifications-daemon Rocks  Exploiting the Goodness with Compiz | Do Know Evil - Tyler Mulligan's Tips and Tricks .::. Size~: 63.33 KBJul 01 00:24
TechrightsTitle: AWN vs Cairo Dock vs Docky: Mac Style Linux Docks Reviewed « Hack Your Life! .::. Size~: 102.47 KBJul 01 00:24
schestowitztessier: pingJul 01 00:29
MinceRpdf does rely on adobe readerJul 01 00:30
MinceRdespite its name, it's nonportable crapJul 01 00:30
MinceRon adobe reader, it's full of holes; elsewhere it's full of incompatibilityJul 01 00:31
tessierschestowitz: pongJul 01 00:33
tessierWhat's up?Jul 01 00:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody assuming this is genuine, it's genuinely good news: @NeelieKroesEU - http://bit.ly/adMUCr #eu #kroesJul 01 00:38
TechrightsTitle: NeelieKroesEU (NeelieKroesEU) on Twitter .::. Size~: 32.52 KBJul 01 00:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm on the Websense blocklistJul 01 00:38
DaemonFClolJul 01 00:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @nsisodiya Just to add, new webm license is GPL compatible.Jul 01 00:41
schestowitz[21:57] <Techrights> Title: Mutant Baby is Born with 12 Perfectly functional Fingers - Mutation is a Success! : science .::. Size~: 477.53 KBJul 01 00:46
schestowitzIntelligent design :-)Jul 01 00:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Arguing with denialists http://i49.tinypic.com/2czrh5k.jpgJul 01 00:46
TechrightsTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBJul 01 00:46
schestowitzI want 12 fingers _too_!Jul 01 00:46
DaemonFChttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=websenseJul 01 00:51
DaemonFCheheJul 01 00:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Had it not been for oem, I wonder how many copies of Windows 7 #microsoft would have sold?Jul 01 00:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Lol #kin seems to be talked about more when #microsoft axes it than when they were trying to sell it. #mvpJul 01 01:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Success for #GNU #Linux in Servers Measured Not Sales-wise; Non-Experts Falter http://ur1.ca/0gvub http://ur1.ca/0gvucJul 01 01:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Australian Bureau of #Meteorology Uses #GNU #Linux , #iDataPlex Runs Linux http://ur1.ca/0gvue http://ur1.ca/0gvufJul 01 01:03
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DaemonFCsomeone figured out how to turn on Safari's extension support and ported a bunch of Chrome extensions to itJul 01 01:09
DaemonFCincluding AdblockJul 01 01:09
DaemonFClolJul 01 01:09
schestowitztessier: this morning the server had heavy load and then stopped serving, so I restarted it and it worked. However, I noticed that the apache logs now show 2 identical entries for each requestJul 01 01:11
tessierThat is weird.Jul 01 01:11
tessierNever seen that before.Jul 01 01:11
tessierYour instance of wordpress seems to have some challenges. I've never seen apache behave so strangely as this one has.Jul 01 01:12
schestowitzIs it working twice on the same task?Jul 01 01:12
tessierI assume it is WP anyway. The rest of apache is bog standard.Jul 01 01:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @_goblin Lol #kin seems to be talked about more when #microsoft axes it than when they were trying to sell it. #mvpJul 01 01:12
schestowitzThat's what worried me cause there was heavy load afterwards tooJul 01 01:12
tessierI don't see how it could be unless the apache listener were somehow handing the same task off to two children.Jul 01 01:12
tessierRestarting apache may clear that up.Jul 01 01:13
tessierMind if I restart it and see what it does?Jul 01 01:13
schestowitzSometimes it shows up just once, e.g. when it serves Yahoo! SlurpJul 01 01:13
schestowitztessier: sureJul 01 01:13
tessierI stopped apache and there are still two httpd processes left.Jul 01 01:13
schestowitzAll I did was restart httpd because I spotted this. It may have begun like this before I even restarted, I hadn't checkedJul 01 01:14
tessierThat has got to be relatedJul 01 01:14
tessierI'll manually kill them offJul 01 01:14
schestowitz:-)Jul 01 01:14
tessierhmm...still looks like two log entries.Jul 01 01:15
schestowitzWith exceptions whose patterns I could never figure outJul 01 01:16
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schestowitzMaybe it's not related to me restarting itJul 01 01:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Proprietary Sofwtare Ported to #Linux http://ur1.ca/0gwjt http://ur1.ca/0gwjuJul 01 01:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many Encouraging Developments Around #Gallium3D for #Linux http://ur1.ca/0gwjo http://ur1.ca/0gwjp http://ur1.ca/0gwjrJul 01 01:16
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schestowitzIt was only after heavy load that the server basically stopped serving for like 5 minutes, so I restarted httpd as per the command you once gave meJul 01 01:17
tessierThat is the right thing to do.Jul 01 01:18
DaemonFChttp://www.product-reviews.net/2010/06/29/windows-8-passwords-and-facial-recognition/Jul 01 01:19
TechrightsTitle: Windows 8 Passwords and Facial Recognition : Product Reviews Net .::. Size~: 23.18 KBJul 01 01:19
*DaemonFC wonders if he can rig it to log in with his assJul 01 01:19
amarsh04http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/01/2941668.htmJul 01 01:19
TechrightsTitle: Gamer sues Sony over PS-3 warning - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 35.44 KBJul 01 01:19
DaemonFCthere's some biometric data for ya!Jul 01 01:19
oiaohmHmm facial recognition is some of the simplest to fool.Jul 01 01:20
oiaohmMost fall for photos of subject.Jul 01 01:20
DaemonFCdraw a face on my ass with a sharpie marker and name the account "French movie star"Jul 01 01:20
DaemonFC:PJul 01 01:21
oiaohmOnly one I have seen out of face that is hard to beat one that uses 2 camsJul 01 01:22
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBI8uCKi2lI&feature=relatedJul 01 01:22
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oiaohmIe 3d model of face.Jul 01 01:22
oiaohmProblem is I cannot log in dependable with it.Jul 01 01:22
oiaohmSince I have a beard.Jul 01 01:22
oiaohmIe beard changes.Jul 01 01:22
oiaohmQuestion is MS creating a female only friendly login system?Jul 01 01:23
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVQGT01Kzg&feature=relatedJul 01 01:23
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Demolition man - Verbal morality Statute .::. Size~: 83.28 KBJul 01 01:23
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITPTJzPv4J8&feature=relatedJul 01 01:25
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tessierschestowitz: Did you see any signs of DDoS when the load went up and you restarted? Jul 01 01:26
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbSXrH_CPKg&feature=relatedJul 01 01:26
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Demolition Man - What seems to be your boggle? .::. Size~: 91.29 KBJul 01 01:26
DaemonFCone of the bestt movies everJul 01 01:26
schestowitztessier: possiblyJul 01 01:28
schestowitzFor a while it went as far high as 20Jul 01 01:29
schestowitzThat never really happened since we had this DDOS attacksJul 01 01:29
schestowitzOtherwise it peaks at around 10Jul 01 01:29
schestowitzAnother thing is, it sometimes returned error pages like the domain wasn't thereJul 01 01:29
schestowitzit never regularly happened and I tried to reach you by IRC to alert you about itJul 01 01:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In 45mins I am doing my live Severed Fifth videocast - join me live at http://is.gd/daCB4 #severedfifthJul 01 01:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Proprietary Software is Malice: Flash is a Headache for 64-bit Users http://ur1.ca/0gxcn http://ur1.ca/0gxcp #AdobeTrashJul 01 01:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Porting #Games to #GNU #Linux is a Good Investment http://ur1.ca/0gxct http://ur1.ca/0gxcwJul 01 01:34
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yuhongRaymond Chen's blog is one of the MS blogs I most trust.Jul 01 01:41
yuhonghttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee914604.aspxJul 01 01:42
TechrightsTitle: TechNet Magazine Article - File Types Dialog -January 2010 .::. Size~: 35.15 KBJul 01 01:42
schestowitzWHat about it?Jul 01 01:42
schestowitzyuhong: you post lots of Microsoft dev stuffJul 01 01:42
schestowitzit's not of interestJul 01 01:42
yuhongYes, I do.Jul 01 01:42
schestowitzLike people who post links to Vista 8 vapoirware screenshotsJul 01 01:42
schestowitzIt only helps themJul 01 01:43
schestowitzyuhong: how about Kin?Jul 01 01:43
yuhongYes, these screenshots are interesting, but I don't look for them much anymore.Jul 01 01:43
yuhongWhat is Kin?Jul 01 01:43
yuhongBut even I don't believe the Linux smears.Jul 01 01:44
schestowitzKIN is deadJul 01 01:44
schestowitz6 weeks and... IT"S deadJul 01 01:44
yuhongWhat was Kin?Jul 01 01:44
schestowitzSign of Microsoft's shapeJul 01 01:44
schestowitzThey can't competeJul 01 01:44
schestowitzNot with supposedly 'bright' devs, patents, and budgetJul 01 01:44
yuhongI know.Jul 01 01:44
schestowitzThey tried many timesJul 01 01:44
schestowitzNot the first time they try and failJul 01 01:44
schestowitzSame with Bong[sic]Jul 01 01:44
schestowitzLive.. MSN... Microsoft search...Jul 01 01:45
yuhongI have seen some articles on how MS's mobile divisions is a loss.Jul 01 01:45
schestowitzOutside Windoffice they are worthlessJul 01 01:45
yuhongI know.Jul 01 01:45
schestowitzThey are tightly linked tooJul 01 01:45
yuhonghttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/06/activision-teaches-microsoft-how-to-overspend-at-e3.arsJul 01 01:45
TechrightsTitle: Activision vs. Microsoft: A tale of two E3 spending binges .::. Size~: 31.68 KBJul 01 01:45
schestowitzThat's why Exchange sellsJul 01 01:45
yuhongI know.Jul 01 01:45
yuhongA comparison of Activision and Microsoft's gaming division.Jul 01 01:46
yuhongBasically Activision blows MS away.Jul 01 01:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New GTK+ is Released, New Themes for #GNOME Desktop http://ur1.ca/0gy3j http://ur1.ca/0gy3lJul 01 01:47
yuhong" you post lots of Microsoft dev stuff" Yes, I was worried that it might be off-topic, but I thought I might post it anyway.Jul 01 01:48
yuhongIt is about why the File Type dialog was eliminated in Vista.Jul 01 01:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Red Eclipse, Chromium B.S.U., and Other #Games for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0gy3e http://ur1.ca/0gy3h http://ur1.ca/0gy3iJul 01 01:48
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TechrightsTitle:       Five best free Linux games of 2010     .::. Size~: 26.19 KBJul 01 01:48
yuhongYes, finally say the Kin article on Ars's front page.Jul 01 01:48
yuhongI read Ars a lot, but not that often.Jul 01 01:49
yuhongWhich was why I missed it.Jul 01 01:49
yuhongI am far from an MS apologist.Jul 01 01:49
yuhongI don't believe the Linux smears on MS blogs that get posted sometimes.Jul 01 01:50
schestowitzYou have it in a vm, right?Jul 01 01:50
yuhongNot anymore, dual-booting now.Jul 01 01:50
yuhongIn Windows right now.Jul 01 01:50
yuhongRemember?Jul 01 01:50
schestowitzGive kde4 a tryJul 01 01:51
schestowitzsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (if you have ubuntu)Jul 01 01:51
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yuhongMy Linux partition is almost full, but if I completely reinstall Linux, I might do it, and I will probably leave more room so I can do things like this.Jul 01 01:52
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yuhonghttp://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/putting-hard-numbers-to-the-iphone-4-antenna-issue.arsJul 01 01:58
TechrightsTitle: Putting hard numbers to the iPhone 4 antenna issue .::. Size~: 29.64 KBJul 01 01:58
yuhongOn Apple.Jul 01 01:58
yuhong"There are a few places where they were critical — the majority, for instance, aren't happy with Apple's App Store approval process."Jul 01 02:02
yuhonghttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/06/30/1453244/The-State-of-iPad-Satisfaction?Jul 01 02:02
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yuhonghttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/06/30/1453244/The-State-of-iPad-Satisfaction?Jul 01 02:04
yuhong"There are a few places where they were critical — the majority, for instance, aren't happy with Apple's App Store approval process."Jul 01 02:04
TechrightsTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | The State of iPad Satisfaction .::. Size~: 170.09 KBJul 01 02:04
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schestowitzhttp://intensedebate.com/profiles/dcworthiJul 01 02:06
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schestowitzOn KINJul 01 02:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Awesome, so it sounds like we are on for an LJ article then. ;-)Jul 01 02:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to stream my live Severed Fifth video update and Q+A at http://bit.ly/4nJmbr - come and join us! :-) #severedfifthJul 01 02:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reviews of #Zenwalk #Linux 6.4, Puppy Linux Lucid Puppy http://ur1.ca/0gzj0 http://ur1.ca/0gzj3Jul 01 02:01
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sebsebsebhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/games/linux-games-best.htmlJul 06 02:02
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sebsebsebhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/games/linux-games-best.htmlJul 06 02:02
TechrightsTitle:       Five best free Linux games of 2010     .::. Size~: 26.19 KBJul 06 02:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: [01:48] <Techrights> Title:       Five best free Linux games of 2010     .::. Size~: 26.19 KBJul 06 02:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many #GNU #Linux Options for Servers; the Merits of Meritocracy http://ur1.ca/0gziw http://ur1.ca/0gziyJul 06 02:02
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sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm?Jul 06 02:03
schestowitzI posted this earlierJul 06 02:03
schestowitzgnJul 06 02:03
sebsebsebohJul 06 02:03
DaemonFC"Yes, Flash sucks. But many of us need it for one site or another."Jul 06 02:22
DaemonFCYes, but Youtube and porn will use HTML 5 eventually.Jul 06 02:22
DaemonFCand the other 10% of Flash is web adsJul 06 02:22
DaemonFC:PJul 06 02:22
DaemonFCbefore web video became common, I set kill bits to keep Flash off my systemJul 06 02:23
DaemonFClolJul 06 02:23
DaemonFCYoutube is a trojan horse to get spyware onto lots of systemsJul 06 02:24
DaemonFCFlash is probably the most prevalent malware on LinuxJul 06 02:25
DaemonFCperhaps the biggest single piece on WindowsJul 06 02:25
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_Kkb9w5bw&playnext_from=TL&videos=N4iIL75TqRs&feature=grec_indexJul 06 02:30
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Windows XP - The Commercial That Started It All .::. Size~: 89.63 KBJul 06 02:30
oiaohmI am wondering what MS is going to discount to counter meegoJul 06 02:42
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK-YtM52aPE&feature=relatedJul 06 03:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hudjhBtV8NkJul 06 03:01
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Sharron Angle: Nevadans Forced to Collect Unemployment Are "Spoiled" .::. Size~: 76.82 KBJul 06 03:01
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFzfmLRJxzY&feature=relatedJul 06 03:02
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- Rachel Maddow: Meet The Latest Crazy Republican Senatorial Candidate, Sharron Angle .::. Size~: 97.59 KBJul 06 03:02
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkMvKeX7erI&feature=relatedJul 06 03:11
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DaemonFC:DJul 06 03:11
DaemonFCshe's running for the US SenateJul 06 03:11
DaemonFCI figured it out!Jul 06 03:12
DaemonFCyay!Jul 06 03:12
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvZ9l9RP9FM&feature=relatedJul 06 03:13
TechrightsTitle: YouTube- simpsons cat lady HAHA .::. Size~: 90.33 KBJul 06 03:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Example attack and counter-attack in the "War on WikiKeaks" http://bit.ly/9EWZ32Jul 06 03:14
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DaemonFCMinceR, Malfunction, Malfunction, Malfunction!!!!Jul 06 03:18
DaemonFC:)Jul 06 03:18
DaemonFCheheJul 06 03:18
DaemonFCIt's a Toyota flying police motorcycle Jul 06 03:19
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 03:19
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3sT48ULElM&feature=relatedJul 06 03:21
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DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 03:22
DaemonFCThere's a new Judge Dredd movie in the worksJul 06 03:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think I figured out how to trip the IRS up big timeJul 06 03:32
DaemonFCthe law says the IRS is forbidden from recognizing same-sex marriages for tax purposesJul 06 03:32
DaemonFCbut it also says the IRS must recognize all common law marriages which are valid by the state the people reside inJul 06 03:33
DaemonFCIn Iowa, both same-sex marriage and common law marriage are recognizedJul 06 03:33
DaemonFCthat would be a hell of a court case....Jul 06 03:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Stoked that @RobKielty is interested in making a Severed Fifth Android App! #severedfifthJul 06 03:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] At @noisebridge SF-LUG.com meeting showing Jim S a few tips about using his Linux-powered Moto DroidJul 06 03:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Wired says we are in disrepair.Untrue-upgrading infrastructure to deal with growth.You can help: http://bit.ly/cpxJWCJul 06 03:53
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DaemonFCschestowitz, How many Kin phones do you think Microsoft is going to have to buy back from Verizon? :DJul 06 04:03
DaemonFCouchJul 06 04:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178768/Microsoft_10_000_PCs_hit_with_new_Windows_XP_zero_day_attack?taxonomyId=85Jul 06 04:04
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft: 10,000 PCs hit with new Windows XP zero-day attack - Computerworld .::. Size~: 74.6 KBJul 06 04:04
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DaemonFCInstead of pages of vague presentations about "Software that Just Works", they need to focus maybe a bit more on not leaving security holes open for 10 yearsJul 06 04:08
DaemonFChttp://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100525/salesforce-com-ceo-on-microsoft-suit-whatd-you-expect-from-a-patent-troll/Jul 06 04:09
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DaemonFCthey're hurrying up and waiting to pass an unemployment extension until 3.2 million people lose their benefits this weekendJul 06 05:25
DaemonFC:PJul 06 05:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @linux_at_ibm: IBM Center of Innovation for Linux and Open Standards is Launched in Kazakhstan http://bit.ly/diZSXqJul 06 05:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Snicker RT @bob_sutor: Wow, MSFT's KIN phones are dead already http://bit.ly/99GkqZJul 06 05:47
TechrightsTitle: Inform the next of KIN: Microsoft's tween phone is no more .::. Size~: 28.71 KBJul 06 05:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] More proof that Microsoft can't monetize products not tied to its monopoly on Office & Windows http://bit.ly/99GkqZJul 06 05:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Microsoft's doodgeboren KINdje: Zes weken na de aankondiging trekt Microsoft de stekker uit de KIN telefoon: http://tinyurl.com/35tp95xJul 06 06:13
TechrightsTitle: Microsoft stopt zes weken na lancering al met Kin-telefoons - iPhone - iPhoneclub.nl .::. Size~: 97.63 KBJul 06 06:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] So what did Knuth anounce?Jul 06 06:35
oiaohmThinking KIN was ment to restart MS phone hopes.Jul 06 06:37
MinceRi think it was an attempt to get some of the hypePhone's success by copying its dumbnessJul 06 06:39
DaemonFCA British nurse had "Jesus" appear on a drain pipeJul 06 06:40
MinceRbut it failed -- they forgot to leave the keyboard out, for example.Jul 06 06:40
DaemonFCand invited the pope to come see itJul 06 06:40
DaemonFCKeith Olbermann dubbed it the "Second Plumbing"Jul 06 06:40
DaemonFC:DJul 06 06:40
DaemonFCoiaohm, Is it me or is Chromium slower than Chrome?Jul 06 06:45
DaemonFCMichelle Bachmann and "Operation: Enduring Stupidity"Jul 06 06:53
DaemonFCI like thatJul 06 06:53
DaemonFCHow does the same state send Al Franken to the Senate and Michele Bachmann to the House?Jul 06 06:54
DaemonFCIs Minnesota just fucking with us?Jul 06 06:54
DaemonFCFox Noise is saying that 40% of Americans pay no income taxJul 06 06:57
DaemonFCI think they got that wrong just a little bitJul 06 06:57
DaemonFCthe top 1% pay no taxes and it's costing us 40% of the tax revenue, is probably closer to the truthJul 06 06:57
DaemonFCI had a few years where my income qualified me for the Earned Income Tax Credit and I couldn't take itJul 06 07:02
DaemonFCbecause the government said that only people over 25 can take itJul 06 07:02
DaemonFCDid you know that 19 year olds who are working full time jobs and get no parental support don't need to eat? I found that out.Jul 06 07:02
DaemonFCI got to make ramen noodles and boloney sandwiches while illegal aliens roll up to Walmart in Cadillacs and buy steak on food stampsJul 06 07:02
oiaohmChromium is slightly slower in a lot of cases due to people not setting complier options right.Jul 06 07:02
DaemonFCMinceR, I see your Absurdistan and callJul 06 07:03
oiaohmI do admire the chrome builder he does a good job running opts.  DaemonFCJul 06 07:03
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 07:03
DaemonFCoiaohm, the Chromium build botJul 06 07:05
DaemonFCI'm using the ones it makesJul 06 07:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva #Linux 2010 Spring is Coming Shortly, Status Updates http://ur1.ca/0hets http://ur1.ca/0hetv http://ur1.ca/0ccotJul 06 07:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #GNU #Linux Include #LinuxMint 9 KDE RC http://ur1.ca/0hetrJul 06 07:06
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oiaohmThat one has debuging on DaemonFCJul 06 07:08
oiaohmthat don't help performance.Jul 06 07:08
DaemonFCBP made plans to evacuate walruses in the event of a spill in the Gulf of MexicoJul 06 07:08
DaemonFCbut not plans for a Hurricane Jul 06 07:09
DaemonFC.....Jul 06 07:09
oiaohmThing I find interesting.Jul 06 07:09
oiaohmI have been looking at first drill sea oil rigs in Australia.Jul 06 07:10
DaemonFCoiaohm, Make sure they can get those Australian penguins outJul 06 07:10
oiaohmIe first drill into a field of oil.Jul 06 07:10
DaemonFC:)Jul 06 07:10
oiaohmAll the australian rigs drill threw one of the pilons.Jul 06 07:11
oiaohmI case of too much presure just fill pilon with oil.Jul 06 07:11
oiaohmIe they have somewhere to vent the oil.Jul 06 07:12
oiaohmThe BP rig was what australian sea guys uses in already developed fields.Jul 06 07:13
DaemonFChow do they determine when to make new builds?Jul 06 07:13
oiaohmIe the australia for first drill into field is a more expesnive rig.Jul 06 07:13
DaemonFCChromium that isJul 06 07:13
oiaohmDon't know DaemonFCJul 06 07:13
DaemonFCsometimes builds are less than half an hour apartJul 06 07:14
oiaohmOk more expesnive until you have a screw up.Jul 06 07:14
DaemonFCdo they build as patches hit the trunk?Jul 06 07:14
oiaohmMost builtbots build when patches hit trunk.Jul 06 07:14
oiaohmSome build before patches hit trunk.Jul 06 07:15
oiaohmIe to make sure patch works before including it trunk.Jul 06 07:15
DaemonFCtoo bad Chromium can't auto-updateJul 06 07:15
DaemonFCbut that would get annoyingJul 06 07:16
MinceRtoo bad chrom{ium,e} fails at font renderingJul 06 07:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Chrome at my Linux sucks - getting Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR): Unknown error. unable to resolve :(Jul 06 07:20
DaemonFCMinceR, How so?Jul 06 07:20
DaemonFCI'm using it on my laptop with LubuntuJul 06 07:21
DaemonFCit's not terribleJul 06 07:21
MinceRit's different from the rest of the system and it's wrongJul 06 07:22
MinceRit doesn't respect my hinting settingsJul 06 07:23
DaemonFChmmm, not seeing thatJul 06 07:23
MinceRobviously google is suffering from NIH syndromeJul 06 07:23
DaemonFCwell, they apparently reverse engineered a huge chunk of WindowsJul 06 07:23
DaemonFCback in 2008Jul 06 07:23
DaemonFCfor some reasonJul 06 07:24
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/09/chrome-antics-did-google-reverse-engineer.arsJul 06 07:24
TechrightsTitle: Chrome antics: did Google reverse-engineer Windows? .::. Size~: 34.87 KBJul 06 07:24
oiaohmYes they do DaemonFCJul 06 07:25
oiaohmFew of the google developers working on Chrome also work with wine DaemonFCJul 06 07:26
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DaemonFC"Chrome attempts first to use the documented API. If, however, this is unavailable, it drops back to something rather more sneaky; it uses an undocumented system call to try to achieve the same thing. And near the top of the file is the incriminating comment:"Jul 06 07:26
DaemonFCthat's a typical Windows programJul 06 07:26
DaemonFCundocumented system calls end up being supported forever because someone finds them and starts using themJul 06 07:27
oiaohmUndocumented by who.Jul 06 07:27
oiaohmLot of so called MS undocumented calls are documented by wine.Jul 06 07:28
DaemonFCright, because application developers find out about them and start using themJul 06 07:28
DaemonFCthen Wine has to support them tooJul 06 07:28
DaemonFCor the applications won't workJul 06 07:28
oiaohmLast time I looked all the calls chrome is using are used by other applications.Jul 06 07:28
oiaohmSo wine has had to fake.Jul 06 07:29
DaemonFCI have Windows set to mandatory DEP even if a process does not opt-inJul 06 07:30
DaemonFCwhich is where it belongs anywayJul 06 07:31
DaemonFC:)Jul 06 07:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Today Finland officially becomes first nation to make broadband a legal right - http://bit.ly/axd0ds Linus must be proud of them #finlandJul 06 07:31
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DaemonFCI think that only really applies to 32-bit processes anyway because DEP is mandatory on 64-bit processes anywayJul 06 07:31
DaemonFCyou can get away with mandatory DEP on 64-bit Windows and not cause system instability because the shell is all 64-bit processesJul 06 07:32
DaemonFCwhich means that anything that extends Explorer is a 64-bit process Jul 06 07:32
DaemonFCwhich means the people who made the extension wouldn't have gotten it to work if it wasn't compatible with DEPJul 06 07:33
DaemonFC32-bit Explorer and 32-bit Explorer extensions had a problem when you turned on mandatory DEP, where the extension would sometimes misbehave and crash ExplorerJul 06 07:33
DaemonFCI noticed that the shell extension provided by WinZIP did that all the timeJul 06 07:34
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/statuses/17448591157 "it's incredibly popular - just one #arduino article accounts for 30% of my blog visitors! #OpenHardware"Jul 06 07:37
TechrightsTitle: Twitter / Richard Smedley: .@schestowitz it's incredi ... .::. Size~: 11.57 KBJul 06 07:37
schestowitzMaybe this just means the blog has little materialJul 06 07:37
schestowitzscientes: you said the comment system gave you a hard time yesterday?Jul 06 07:37
DaemonFCI like what I'm seeing with Chrome/Chromium lately Jul 06 07:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Speaks About Profit, #RHEL 6.0 http://ur1.ca/0hg4a http://ur1.ca/0hg4b http://ur1.ca/0hg4c http://ur1.ca/0hg4dJul 06 07:39
TechrightsTitle: Integral Innovation | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.97 KBJul 06 07:39
DaemonFCit's starting to make Firefox look like IE 6 in comparisonJul 06 07:39
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DaemonFCbrowsers are becoming a swallow the spider to get the fly problem I thinkJul 06 07:40
DaemonFCit used to be you had Firefox to browse with and every once in a while you had to go fish for IE because of some bad site that wouldn't renderJul 06 07:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Anybody Interested in making a GUI for one click install method for Ubuntu Linux - http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/ #linux #oneclickJul 06 07:41
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DaemonFCnow you have Firefox to fall back to from Chrome or Opera because sites test against Firefox, and you don't want to open IE when you reach a bad pageJul 06 07:42
scientesschestowitz, yesJul 06 07:43
scientesi logged in and still couldn't commentJul 06 07:43
schestowitzNo form?Jul 06 07:47
schestowitzOr error?Jul 06 07:47
schestowitzitems older than 2 weeks have no comment formJul 06 07:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] FOSS jobs in India - 30 June 2010 http://post.ly/lOimJul 06 07:49
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DaemonFCdo you have to approve comments?Jul 06 07:49
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DaemonFCI enabled approval on all comments a while ago because spam bots look for old posts to attackJul 06 07:50
DaemonFChoping you won't noticeJul 06 07:50
DaemonFCand because Wordpress defaults to letting anyone you've previously allowed to post, post againJul 06 07:50
DaemonFCso they might say something reasonable at first just so they can come back and spam you or try to leave a nice long offensive messageJul 06 07:51
DaemonFCthat happens a lotJul 06 07:51
MinceRthere were a lot of pages which crashed opera before i switched back to ffJul 06 07:53
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DaemonFCOpera is easier to crash on LinuxJul 06 07:53
DaemonFCactually, Opera just doesn't work as well on Linux at allJul 06 07:57
DaemonFCthey've gotten better, but it's still a second rate portJul 06 07:57
MinceRthen what's the point?Jul 06 07:57
DaemonFCthe Opera plug-in wrapper was the worst part about the whole thingJul 06 07:57
MinceRand anyway, how exactly does one screw up making a Qt app run on GNU/Linux?Jul 06 07:57
DaemonFCit doesn't use QT anymore apparently Jul 06 07:58
MinceRback when i used it it didJul 06 07:58
DaemonFCit didJul 06 07:58
MinceRbut i guess that's one more reason to use ff insteadJul 06 07:58
DaemonFCI think they ditched it recentlyJul 06 07:59
DaemonFChttp://techie-buzz.com/opera/opera-10-5-for-linux.htmlJul 06 07:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Leaves Desktop to Fedora, #CentOS Interview Published http://ur1.ca/0hgyq http://ur1.ca/0hgyrJul 06 07:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Expands #FogComputing Strategy With #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0hg46 http://ur1.ca/0hg5rJul 06 07:59
TechrightsTitle:  Red Hat Still Doesn't Need Desktop Linux  .::. Size~: 25.26 KBJul 06 07:59
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DaemonFCit seems less buggy nowJul 06 08:00
DaemonFCthe UI is definitely fasterJul 06 08:00
MinceRi think the CEO of Red Hat forgets that many businesses deploy a lot of desktop PCs and many of them are likely to buy support for their desktop OSJul 06 08:00
DaemonFCbut the only Linux build I tried was on my old Sempron laptopJul 06 08:00
DaemonFCand everything pisses it offJul 06 08:00
MinceRhm, even the author of that article misspells "Qt" as "QT"Jul 06 08:01
schestowitzkoot...Jul 06 08:02
DaemonFCapparently it just renders its own interface now and tries to blend in with the surroundingsJul 06 08:02
schestowitzMany people pronounce it Q TJul 06 08:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Foursquare Puts Money Before Privacy - http://bit.ly/98fNPi another reason not to join #foursquare #privacyJul 06 08:03
MinceRwhat could possibly go wrong? :>Jul 06 08:05
DaemonFCit does a much better job on Windows nowJul 06 08:05
DaemonFCQt is a real dogJul 06 08:05
DaemonFCfor some reason, GTK apps work fine on Windows, but Qt apps tend to be slowJul 06 08:05
DaemonFCwell, slower anywayJul 06 08:05
DaemonFChmmm, someone built MSN Pecan for Pidgin on WindowsJul 06 08:05
*DaemonFC wonders if he wants to botherJul 06 08:05
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MinceRgtk apps work fine on winblows? that's newJul 06 08:05
DaemonFCGTK+ apps tend to blend in better tooJul 06 08:05
MinceRnot to mention Qt apps being slowJul 06 08:06
DaemonFCnot so much with XPJul 06 08:06
DaemonFCbut with Vista and 7Jul 06 08:06
MinceRi guess i didn't get the memoJul 06 08:06
MinceRand neither did my apps :>Jul 06 08:06
DaemonFCthey have a much better native "Windows" styleJul 06 08:06
DaemonFCthe XP skin always looked very blocky and had the system colors of Windows MeJul 06 08:06
DaemonFCit didn't make the application look XP-ish at allJul 06 08:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Story of Good First Experience With Ubuntu #GNU #Linux, #Ubuntu Runs on HD2 http://ur1.ca/0hhcw http://ur1.ca/0hhcyJul 06 08:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux News and Picks http://ur1.ca/0hhcr http://ur1.ca/0hhcs http://ur1.ca/0hhct http://ur1.ca/0hhcvJul 06 08:09
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DaemonFChttp://code.google.com/p/msn-pecan/wiki/FAQJul 06 08:10
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ou140/@ou140] RT @openuniverse this is a long test post that i will repeat from identi.ca to show to @speeddefrost that it is indeed possible and why ...Jul 06 08:10
DaemonFC"The short answer is: there are many problems with the Pidgin development team. It's basically impossible to implement anything there."Jul 06 08:10
DaemonFCThat's not bitter...Jul 06 08:10
DaemonFCheheJul 06 08:10
DaemonFCheh, a WinMX plug-inJul 06 08:13
DaemonFClooks dead, but fascinating all the sameJul 06 08:13
DaemonFCan open source WinMX clone is in the works?Jul 06 08:16
*DaemonFC reads onJul 06 08:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Significant players like Apple, Nokia, RIM, Adobe etc. to face EU interoperability rules http://bit.ly/98Z5o4 #openstandardsJul 06 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] boarding ICE680 from MUC to ERF.Jul 06 08:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Issue of a #Ubuntu -oriented Magazine, IDG Puts #Canonical in Top 20 List for CIOs http://ur1.ca/0hiqf http://ur1.ca/0hiqgJul 06 08:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mew Flavours and Variants of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux : Sugar, Mint #KDE http://ur1.ca/0hiql http://ur1.ca/0hiqmJul 06 08:43
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DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hLKyB9H7lUpiALFVlU7RRJa9-EfwD9GM3SGO0Jul 06 08:52
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DaemonFCThe real reason that the unemployment rate is shrinkingJul 06 08:52
DaemonFChave to stop and throw a few million off the system now and againJul 06 08:53
schestowitzscientes: html5 is 'open source' now? http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/press/convert-flash-open-source-html5,1361087.htmlJul 06 09:01
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schestowitzDaemonFC: they might just lose a place to stayJul 06 09:02
schestowitzYou're not solving the problem that wayJul 06 09:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #EnQii Uses #GNU #Linux Servers in Product http://ur1.ca/0hjqs http://ur1.ca/0hjqxJul 06 09:05
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DaemonFC:PJul 06 09:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Derivative #Peppermint Makes an Impression http://ur1.ca/0hjqq http://ur1.ca/0hjqrJul 06 09:06
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MadRobotHi all.Jul 06 09:13
MadRobotI'm back! :)Jul 06 09:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't been sued over the MVP programJul 06 09:16
DaemonFCAOL got in trouble years back for something similarJul 06 09:16
Diablo-D3http://whotookspaz.org/randomflash/windows.swfJul 06 09:17
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: a CLASSICJul 06 09:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Your ideas for your freedom - http://bit.ly/9p6jD0 wow: "Government is committed to restoring & defending your freedom" (via @DirDigEng) #ukJul 06 09:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Significant market players to face EU interoperability rules - http://bit.ly/b583Cj but the devil is in the details #interoperability #euJul 06 09:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Sub-notebooks With #Linux , Specialised Distros http://ur1.ca/0hkr4 http://ur1.ca/0hkr7 http://ur1.ca/0hkrdJul 06 09:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Targets #GNU #Linux With #Chrome 5.0, #ChromeOS (Linux) Overview http://ur1.ca/0hkqz http://ur1.ca/0hkr0Jul 06 09:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Debategraph - http://bit.ly/clwg7K "way for geographically dispersed groups to collaborate in real-time in thinking through complex issues"Jul 06 09:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Homeland Security Works For Disney Now? Announces Shut Down Of Movie Sites At Disney - http://bit.ly/dvhO2l worrying trend #copyrightJul 06 09:34
TechrightsTitle: Homeland Security Works For Disney Now? Announces Shut Down Of Movie Sites At Disney | Techdirt .::. Size~: 81.58 KBJul 06 09:34
MadRobotschestowitz, hey there!Jul 06 09:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Salamu alaikom, tweeps! I'm finally back! :DJul 06 09:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open-Source Microblogging Platform StatusNet Launches Desktop Client - http://bit.ly/cfSbb9 excellent #identica #microbloggingJul 06 09:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Yahoo! Unleashes Search, Mail and Messenger For Android - http://bit.ly/cCdzbu won't be using it, but nice to see #yahoo #androidJul 06 09:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK votes for all 6 GM applications in Europe - http://bit.ly/9G0pGi hey, not in my name, sunshine #gm #ukJul 06 09:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dramatic Growth of Open Access - http://bit.ly/cqV89R unstoppable now #openaccessJul 06 09:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @jkuri Die Sprechblasen, die Internet- und Social-Media-Berater von sich geben, haben nicht mal genug Substanz, um sie platzen zu lassen.Jul 06 09:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @tom_watson The Digital Economy Act already has a page on new gov freedom site. Vote to repeal it here: http://bit.ly/aaKLot Please RTJul 06 10:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] How Samasource Helps The World - http://tcrn.ch/9gGNnW like the Mechanical Turk, only more socially awareJul 06 10:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] So, what's up everyone? :-)Jul 06 10:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #CoOpBank reaches new IT low: new online bank delayed by 3 more months, if I'm abroad when it starts, I'll be cut off from my acctJul 06 10:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] liebe Deutsche Bahn - jede Fahrt ist #fail in letzter Zeit. Grad mal wieder ICE680 Zwangspause.Jul 06 10:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] #CoOpBank's new online banking is more than a yr past schedule; they only allow foreign funds transfers by faxJul 06 10:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] You don't need an academic degree in order to be capable of using your own brain for thinking.Jul 06 10:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think I'm now over the worst of this bug.....no gory details....Jul 06 10:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Photo archive goes live on OS OpenSpace - http://bit.ly/92LEAr great, but should have been possible ages ago (via @charlesarthur) #mashupsJul 06 10:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @EDRi_org EU hearing on child abuse, Comm explains that lack of data on effect of blocking not important as it was a political decisionJul 06 11:26
MinceRj0Jul 06 11:28
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MadRobotHi allJul 06 13:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] YAY MINI 9 AGAIN quick HD transplant and it's back <3 <3 <3Jul 06 13:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many #Linux #Tablets at Computex, #Cisco Has Its Own Now http://ur1.ca/0hpq9 http://ur1.ca/0hpqaJul 06 13:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GeoAmida is Built on Top of #Linux http://ur1.ca/0hpqcJul 06 13:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #MeeGo Runs Full #Android Thanks to Hack http://ur1.ca/0hpsx http://ur1.ca/0hpsz http://ur1.ca/0hpt0Jul 06 13:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #x86 Wants a Piece of #Linux Action in Potables http://ur1.ca/0hpsu http://ur1.ca/0hpsvJul 06 13:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Points Where #Linux / #Android Phones Beat #hypePhone http://blogs.computerworld.com/16437/iphone_vs_android_five_points_of_differenceJul 06 13:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MSBBC #iPlayer Now Works With #Linux -based #Android http://ur1.ca/0hpwk http://ur1.ca/0hpwlJul 06 13:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez everything good? wbJul 06 13:44
MadRobotschestowitz, hey!Jul 06 13:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Project Harmony looks to improve contribution agreements - http://bit.ly/axGthR important area (via @webmink) #canonicalJul 06 13:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @tom_watson The Digital Economy Act already has a page on new gov freedom site. Vote to repeal it here: http://bit.ly/aaKLot Please RTJul 06 13:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Thanks! Everything is brilliant, all thanks and praises to God. :-)Jul 06 13:53
schestowitzMadRobot: have we met?Jul 06 13:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NexusOne to Get Latest #Android (2.2), Android/ #Linux Coming to Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/0hq35 http://ur1.ca/0hq38Jul 06 13:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Embraced by #Cisco , Coomes to HTC HD2 http://ur1.ca/0hq36 http://ur1.ca/0hq37Jul 06 13:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez good to hearJul 06 13:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @nitot Entendu à propos du HTC Desire sous Android : "il fait tout ce que faisait mon iPhone jailbreaké">> call the Académie française...Jul 06 14:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WiFi Software Comes in Free/Libre Flavours http://ostatic.com/blog/wi-fi-problems-dont-neglect-open-source-solutionsJul 06 14:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Opinions and Hirings in "Open Source" http://ur1.ca/0hq87 http://ur1.ca/0hq88Jul 06 14:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSource World Conference 2010 Planned, OSCA Quiet for Now http://ur1.ca/0hqbd http://ur1.ca/0hqbeJul 06 14:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre Web Browsers Do Well Against Proprietary Ones http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365692,00.aspJul 06 14:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fake/Obscure Open Source Paradigms Challenged http://ur1.ca/0hqdm http://ur1.ca/0hqdnJul 06 14:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of Sharing, Openness http://ur1.ca/0hqdo http://ur1.ca/0hqdp http://ur1.ca/0hqdq http://ur1.ca/0hqdrJul 06 14:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest #OpenData Victories http://ur1.ca/0hqf4 http://ur1.ca/0hqf5 http://ur1.ca/0hqf6 http://ur1.ca/0hqf7 http://ur1.ca/0hqf8Jul 06 14:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open Access/Content Gains, Springer Joins the Fold http://ur1.ca/0hqf9 http://ur1.ca/0hqfa http://ur1.ca/0hqfbJul 06 14:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web Standards + WebM Gain http://ur1.ca/0hqhd http://ur1.ca/0hqhe http://ur1.ca/0eb52 http://ur1.ca/0hqhfJul 06 14:44
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cubezzzlol -> Gertrude Walton,[2] who was sued for copyright infringement six months after passing away)Jul 06 14:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eye on Security: #RedHat Explains Why #Windows is Less Secure, New Windows 0-Day Attack http://ur1.ca/0hqj0Jul 06 14:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Moving Firefox Fourwards - http://bit.ly/d476zZ Firefox 4 features, and Mozilla's secret weapon for maintaining momentum #firefox4 #mozillaJul 06 14:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] MRI was surprisingly relaxing 2nd time around. Had a lovely, lovely nap. Was sorry when it ended.Jul 06 15:00
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Ziodotmatrixhear yee hear yee, the Kin is dead!Jul 06 15:14
MinceRindeedJul 06 15:18
MinceRm$ is the kinslayerJul 06 15:18
ZiodotmatrixMinceR: did you read the Engadget article about the drama that lead up to it's epic fail?Jul 06 15:20
Ziodotmatrixhere is the article: http://tinyurl.com/27olj6t But in my opinion I don't think Verizon lost patience but rather caught a case of Android fever and figured it's the better way to go without M$ tax.Jul 06 15:24
TechrightsTitle: What killed the Kin? -- Engadget .::. Size~: 217.69 KBJul 06 15:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] La ilaha illa Allah. Everyone should read this! Muslim population increasing in times faster in UK than rest of society: http://is.gd/dbo5qJul 06 15:26
TechrightsTitle:  Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society' - Times Online  .::. Size~: 23.83 KBJul 06 15:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] tterJul 06 15:27
Ziodotmatrixis BoycottNovell turning into the PromoteBNP channel?Jul 06 15:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] La ilaha illa Allah. Everyone should read this! Muslim population increasing 10 times faster in UK than rest of society: http://is.gd/dbo5qJul 06 15:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Digital rights are crushing open source Internet TV - http://bit.ly/aDlzpA re-inventing the Net as television #drm #bbcJul 06 15:28
TechrightsTitle:  Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society' - Times Online  .::. Size~: 23.83 KBJul 06 15:28
TechrightsTitle:                     Digital rights are crushing open source internet tv - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 54.09 KBJul 06 15:28
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, what's that?Jul 06 15:29
cubezzzwe have open tv, it's called the UHF antennaJul 06 15:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @schestowitz Thanks. :)Jul 06 15:29
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: the link? it's an dramatized article of the scuffle that went on at MS. which ruined the Kin project before it's inception.Jul 06 15:30
cubezzzor the FTA satellite DishJul 06 15:30
cubezzzTV isn't a problemJul 06 15:30
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, no, I meant the PromoteBNP channel.Jul 06 15:30
schestowitzTechrights: there's a traffic storm againJul 06 15:31
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: oh I was joking because BNtwitter linked an article about rising Muslim population in the UK.Jul 06 15:31
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, yeah. I submitted that link.Jul 06 15:31
ZiodotmatrixBNP is the British Nationalist PartyJul 06 15:31
MadRobotOmar_S_Hafez is my twitter account name.Jul 06 15:32
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: alright you're free to your opinion but why bring it up here so readily? Unless the Gates Foundation is covertly funding this immigration from Africa.Jul 06 15:32
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, well, I didn't really bring anything up actually. It's just the schestowitz added my name on the BNtwitter list, and it simply posts whatever I tweet in here.Jul 06 15:35
MadRobotAnyways, I g2g now.Jul 06 15:35
MadRobotOh, I 4got to say that I myself am a Muslim. :-) Jul 06 15:35
MadRobotAnyways, c ya'll l8er. Salam. :)Jul 06 15:36
MinceRnobody cares.Jul 06 15:36
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: it's nice to know one who is self criticalJul 06 15:36
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: freedom of expression ftw, ciao :-)Jul 06 15:36
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: now I'm making brash generalizations :-PJul 06 15:37
schestowitzMinceR: ahhh..Jul 06 15:37
schestowitzI knew I remembered your nick, couldn't connect that with you :-)Jul 06 15:37
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: but at least stay alittle on topic pleaseJul 06 15:37
schestowitzOops, MadRobot I emanJul 06 15:37
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: that link would fit more into ##politicsJul 06 15:38
MinceRor ##religion, or ##superstition or ##cultsJul 06 15:38
Ziodotmatrixschestowitz_log: so what do you think of MS's state of upheaval?Jul 06 15:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] With World Watching, Wikileaks Falls Into Disrepair - http://bit.ly/ch9MJe that's a pity #wikileaksJul 06 15:39
TechrightsTitle: With World Watching, Wikileaks Falls Into Disrepair | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 96.31 KBJul 06 15:39
schestowitzI'm encouraged by itJul 06 15:39
schestowitzI was just about to do a KIN postJul 06 15:39
schestowitzEveryone has heard about it by now thoughJul 06 15:39
Ziodotmatrixschestowitz_log: it seems that some at MS. want to reshape the company into something more like Apple.Jul 06 15:40
schestowitzThat's like putting a t-rex on steroidsJul 06 15:41
schestowitzYou don't want that...Jul 06 15:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] IBM names Firefox its default browser - http://bit.ly/aSEyBD nice, but amazed not done before (via @smalljones @bob_sutor)Jul 06 15:41
TechrightsTitle: IBM names Firefox its default browser | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 82.33 KBJul 06 15:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dell reiterates that Linux is safer than Windows - http://bit.ly/dnrNCL the never-ending story #security #windowsJul 06 15:42
TechrightsTitle: Dell reiterates that Linux is safer than Windows | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 35 KBJul 06 15:42
ZiodotmatrixI guess Wikileaks received a visit from the manJul 06 15:42
Ziodotmatrixit's the same quiet way Seeqpod died.Jul 06 15:43
MinceRThe Man has to keep reminding us that despite allegations he can't stand us being free.Jul 06 15:43
MadRobotbackJul 06 15:44
ZiodotmatrixMinceR: indeed freedom of speech to them is discussing which celeb looks hotter or food is tastier.Jul 06 15:44
MinceR:>Jul 06 15:44
ZiodotmatrixMinceR: a successful government that welcomes freedom of speech is a house divided where each side sees interest in the other of having bad press leaked.Jul 06 15:45
MadRobotschestowitz, Ziodotmatrix, sorry ppl. But I can't just limit my tweets to FOSS and Tech-related just so that they remain ontopic here.Jul 06 15:46
MadRobotTech-related *stuff*Jul 06 15:46
MinceRthere's a solution for that. :>Jul 06 15:47
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: it's fine if it's political but it would be nice if it has something to do with how it effects our intake of information or a specific political and interest that can. Mass immigration of X ppl is such an overused argument with little signifigance other then to scare ppl into passing ever tighter laws.Jul 06 15:48
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: funny that the UK doesn't care about it's massive Polish diaspora now.Jul 06 15:49
cubezzzIreland had a few mass exodusesJul 06 15:49
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, again. I don't see how that solves the problem.Jul 06 15:49
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: partially due to globalization sucking certain continents and regions dry of decent work.Jul 06 15:49
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, what's that got to do with anything?Jul 06 15:50
cubezzzthe perils of mono-culture 19th century editionJul 06 15:50
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: blame your service economy on the massive immigration and lax laws for it, not the immigrants so much.Jul 06 15:50
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, what does immigration have to do with what the topic talks about?Jul 06 15:51
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, sorry, I meant article.Jul 06 15:51
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, immigration alone could never make this huge numbers, ya know.Jul 06 15:52
MinceRyay for you, you still think life is a race to reproduce.Jul 06 15:52
MadRobotPlus, it's not that I'm feeling proud of my countries economy either.Jul 06 15:52
MinceReven though the planet is already overpopulated and its resources overtaxed.Jul 06 15:52
MadRobotMinceR, who are you talking to?Jul 06 15:52
ZiodotmatrixMadRobot: rising Muslim populations due to higher birthrates (codespeak for poor people) and mass immigration and conversions (of poor minorities)Jul 06 15:52
MinceRMadRobot: you.Jul 06 15:52
MadRobotMinceR, I think life is a race to reproduce? Who told you that joke?Jul 06 15:53
MinceRyou take pride in people in your cult reproducing.Jul 06 15:53
MadRobotZiodotmatrix, yeah, right. Not even with birthrate.Jul 06 15:53
ZiodotmatrixMinceR: it's not overpopulated it's just the geographic pupulation density is severely ascue.Jul 06 15:53
MinceRaskew?Jul 06 15:54
cubezzzuh, overpopulation is a serious problemJul 06 15:54
ZiodotmatrixMinceR: millions rushing to London while places such as resource rich east Africa remain a desolate warzone.Jul 06 15:54
MadRobotschestowitz, and now you blame me for making these "offtopic" frenzies in here?Jul 06 15:54
Ziodotmatrixanyway I got to catch a train, ciaoJul 06 15:55
MadRobotAll did was tweeting a single link to an article, damn it.Jul 06 15:55
MadRobotAll *I* did..Jul 06 15:55
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MadRobotAnd these two people here started an entire unrelated topic about it. Isn't that just funny? :P Jul 06 15:57
MadRobotschestowitz, one last thing regarding that silly unrated debated that happened minutes ago, if you don't feel satisfied with what I'm tweeting, then please feel free to remove my name from the BNtwitter list. It's all up to you, ya know?Jul 06 16:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Wired's war on WikiLeaks continues. See comment by 'mpineiro' http://bit.ly/aZm4USJul 06 16:06
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] You're making gnome look bad, you're not on the board (misrepresentation) - http://2tu.us/2dmx @leftyJul 06 16:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dan Ravicher Suggests Organising for Chance of a US Patent Overhaul http://ur1.ca/0hr80 #swpats #bilski #sflcJul 06 16:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Idiots can be defeated but they just never admit it." ~RMSJul 06 16:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Hilarious! RT @rtaibah: RT @oobi Apple finally found a solution for their iPhone reception problem: http://bit.ly/bY1gRsJul 06 16:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] From the no-brainer dept: RT @bob_sutor: IBM names Firefox its default browser http://bit.ly/9KH1NmJul 06 16:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Dell reiterates that Linux is safer than Windows http://bit.ly/dnrNCLJul 06 16:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] 2 no-brainers in a row RT @glynmoody: Dell reiterates that Linux is safer than Windows http://bit.ly/dnrNCLJul 06 16:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] With the exception of one action, all Alpha 2 actions completed - http://is.gd/dbsyN :-) #ubuntuJul 06 16:36
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MinceRyes, not related at allJul 06 16:39
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ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=773Jul 06 16:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Better multimedia support for OpenOffice.org on Unix systems - http://bit.ly/adU3PC make a joyful sound #openofficeJul 06 16:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Economics of Abundance Workshop Notes - http://bit.ly/ctRrV4 early days, but interesting and important #abundance #economicsJul 06 16:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Plant nurseries in clover after finding four-leaf gene - http://bit.ly/aj6eC4 rather takes away the fun #fourleafclover #dnaJul 06 16:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Now that #Microsoft abandons “KIN” (just weeks after its official launch) #Zune may naturally jump the shark http://ur1.ca/0hrx9Jul 06 17:00
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Google GO (golang) Packages available for Fedora 13 (64-bit) - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=773Jul 06 17:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Symbian-Guru.com Is Over - http://bit.ly/cFdESC one small step for a guru, one giant slap for #Nokia #symbianJul 06 17:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] open letter calls for urgent rethink of patents and copyright - http://bit.ly/atz3VV only for orgs, apparently #actaJul 06 17:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Poll finds falling freetard support - http://bit.ly/aHmYBw false opposition between “digital rights” and "creators' rights": ultimately sameJul 06 17:27
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ender2070idiotJul 06 17:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Glyn is influential in Public & third sector, Evolutionary science, TV - http://bit.ly/d2hz2n is he? news to me #twitter #analyticsJul 06 17:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] European Officials Embrace Open Data Policy for GMES Satellites - http://bit.ly/aQuSWx a real sign of the times #opengeodataJul 06 17:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow, Weird Al seriously shreds on stage in Ohio! http://is.gd/dbxt3Jul 06 17:47
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ender2070ok... lolJul 06 17:52
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MadRobotHi all.Jul 06 17:56
ender2070mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooJul 06 17:58
MinceRhamburger.Jul 06 17:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Heart of Dryness - http://bit.ly/be7h8Z water is the ultimate indispensable resource #waterJul 06 18:00
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ender2070lolJul 06 18:00
MinceRalso, it's because of retards like that i stopped reading the register (except for BOFH)Jul 06 18:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @ EthanZ Eric Schmidt - Net more disruptive than electricity cos replaces economics of scarcity with economics of abundance >>the memeJul 06 18:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] “Your Freedom” is a failure. How to make it better - http://bit.ly/c9IEzR important: the growing mess will be used against us #freedom #ukJul 06 18:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Got the #EU #interoperability story ("significant market players" like Apple) slashdotted: http://bit.ly/bJ7UByJul 06 18:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Hackers target Microsoft Windows XP support system - Is anyone surprised? http://tinyurl.com/34cofkuJul 06 18:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Perhaps not surprisingly, lots of fanboys defend #Apple approach on slashdot now and reject openness :-) http://bit.ly/bJ7UByJul 06 18:19
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MadRobotHas anyone seen the recent Java vs. .NET video? :-PJul 06 18:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody: Dell reiterates that Linux is safer than Windows http://bit.ly/dnrNCLJul 06 18:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: What Severed Fifth merch would you most like to see? Let us know in our poll: http://soc.li/Yut8s3c #severedfifthJul 06 18:58
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schestowitz[17:27] <Techrights> Title: Poll finds falling freetard support • The Register .::. Size~: 30.59 KBJul 06 18:58
schestowitzAndrew Orlowski and his USUAL mafiaa trollingJul 06 18:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Just added @lefty to my #elmdentica's gag list, so I won't be able to read this dent on next reload...Jul 06 18:59
schestowitzHeheJul 06 18:59
schestowitzThat freak alienates anyone in the FOSS worldJul 06 18:59
schestowitzMaybe Microsoft will just buy ACCESS and pull a 'KIN'/Sidekick/Danger on itJul 06 19:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody that scanner is terrible. Mine makes no sense at all: http://www.viewsflow.com/user/schestowitzJul 06 19:03
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schestowitz[18:02] <MinceR> also, it's because of retards like that i stopped reading the register (except for BOFH)Jul 06 19:04
schestowitzBlame Gavin, Andrew, Kelly and several othersJul 06 19:04
schestowitzThere are good ones still, like John OatesJul 06 19:04
MinceRi have better things to do than trying to shovel a few gems out of a huge pile of shitJul 06 19:05
schestowitzVicky used to cover FOSS and so did Ashley Vance before he moved to NYTJul 06 19:05
schestowitzI stopped reading the RegJul 06 19:05
schestowitzI used to link to it like 10 times as muchJul 06 19:05
MinceRon that note i wish there was a general purpose social news site that banned idiots (including crApple fanboys)Jul 06 19:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Sigh, identi.ca's email alerts prevented total bliss from that troll. Better than before, that's for sure.Jul 06 19:07
schestowitz[19:05] <MinceR> i have better things to do than trying to shovel a few gems out of a huge pile of shitJul 06 19:09
schestowitzThat's exactly how I felt about Slashdot when it become bad some years ago (it's better again now)Jul 06 19:09
schestowitzBut they give podium to some lobbiesJul 06 19:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ruiseabra it's hard to avoid the stalking psychopath. Two decades show so.Jul 06 19:11
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ender2070LOLJul 06 19:16
ender2070http://www.osnews.com/story/23508/Microsoft_NET_vs_Java_-_The_Trailer_Video_Jul 06 19:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz I always knew you were a secret Mac fanboy....Jul 06 19:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Are Silicon Valley High Fliers Sucking Up All The Talent? - http://bit.ly/b9yyq1 yes, but they'll leave as soon as the Next Big Thing comesJul 06 19:18
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MinceRwtf is with the crApple ad in it?Jul 06 19:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] DMCA Fail: The 5 Dumbest Takedown Notices - http://bit.ly/bJfZI3 hard to choose, of course, but these will do #dmcaJul 06 19:21
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schestowitzMinceR: what is ad?Jul 06 19:25
MinceRadvertisementJul 06 19:26
MinceRin this case, product placementJul 06 19:26
MinceRi certainly hope that not all java developers are crApple slavesJul 06 19:27
schestowitzI was jokingJul 06 19:27
schestowitzI see no Apple adJul 06 19:27
ender2070http://www.osnews.com/story/23508/Microsoft_NET_vs_Java_-_The_Trailer_Video_Jul 06 19:27
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schestowitzNo adsJul 06 19:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Guidelines for Group Collaboration and Emergence - http://bit.ly/czEDXB lots of interesting stuff #collaborationJul 06 19:28
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schestowitzFirefox worksJul 06 19:28
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzza-ZbEY70Jul 06 19:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] So @jonabacon is trying to do a 'Fake Jono Bacon'. Kind of like Fake Steve Jobs but not particularly funny. Oh well, rock on! ;-)Jul 06 19:29
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/Ih0XH.pngJul 06 19:32
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ender2070LOL?Jul 06 19:33
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Microsoft .NET vs Java - The Trailer http://2tu.us/2dnkJul 06 19:35
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DaemonFCthe Kin site is still upJul 06 19:36
DaemonFCno mention of it being a discontinued dead endJul 06 19:36
DaemonFCNo, there are no refunds, but we will give any customer who asks a free copy of Windows Vista Home BasicJul 06 19:40
DaemonFC:PJul 06 19:40
DaemonFCMinceR, That had to have been the biggest PR disaster ever for themJul 06 19:41
DaemonFCbuy an XP system now and get Vista when it comes out!Jul 06 19:41
DaemonFCthen they send you Vista BasicJul 06 19:41
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/5yxMA.jpgJul 06 19:42
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DaemonFCit's like they wanted to say they lived up to the agreement, but you have to go buy a full copy of Windows Vista Premium anyway to get what you thought was coming for free :PJul 06 19:42
DaemonFCsame deal as 7 Starter on a netbook, it's just a disposable void-filler to make sure Windows has its foot in the door when you find out you've been robbedJul 06 19:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Trying to Kill #Linux Conferences http://techrights.org/2010/07/01/tricks-to-ruin-conferences/ same old tricksJul 06 19:45
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Millions of swine flu vaccine doses to be destroyed unused, can someone be fired for this? http://ur1.ca/0huavJul 06 19:45
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schestowitzMinceR: it's a toyJul 06 19:55
schestowitzNot a phoneJul 06 19:55
schestowitzPhone have receptiomnJul 06 19:55
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] See how companies corrupt the government and world around us http://ur1.ca/0hughJul 06 19:55
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fox News advocates shutting down public libraries http://ur1.ca/0hugpJul 06 19:55
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Judge could have been taking bribes from Hollywood, rejects EFF and ACLU arguments in favor of protecting rights http://ur1.ca/0hugtJul 06 19:55
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] India rejects barcodes on national IDs... these people do our tech support?! http://ur1.ca/0huhvJul 06 19:55
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schestowitzThis one is a mockup pretending to be a phoneJul 06 19:55
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MinceRtrueJul 06 19:59
MinceRbut it's a great step for BlowJul 06 19:59
MinceRmaybe he'll eventually realize that it's just a paperweight.Jul 06 19:59
schestowitzPaperweights don't explode spontaneously and burn paper along with the office Jul 06 20:00
schestowitzPaperweights. Just. Work.Jul 06 20:00
schestowitzYou can't "hold them wrong"Jul 06 20:01
MinceRso it's a paperweight with a surprise time bomb featureJul 06 20:03
MinceRactually the hypePhone 4 works as a paperweight even if you "hold it wrong"Jul 06 20:03
MinceRthen again i wouldn't take kindly to a paperweight that connects me to a live circuitJul 06 20:04
DaemonFChold it wrong, signal attenuation caused by your body's bad chiJul 06 20:05
DaemonFC:PJul 06 20:05
DaemonFCSurprising that no phone I've ever had, even the cheap prepaid crap has ever behaved as poorly as something that's $400Jul 06 20:05
MinceRmaybe it works better under the influence of the Reality Distortion Field?Jul 06 20:05
DaemonFCobviously I was doing something wrongJul 06 20:06
MinceReven my first phone let me choose what applications to run on it, even though it cost a tiny fraction of the price of any hypePhoneJul 06 20:06
DaemonFCMinceR, Don't give your hypePhone the Vulcan Death Grip. - Steve JobsJul 06 20:06
MinceRit's impossible since i don't own any. :>Jul 06 20:07
DaemonFChttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Vulcannervepinch.jpgJul 06 20:07
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DaemonFCdo NOT hold your hypePhone like this!!!Jul 06 20:07
DaemonFCever :PJul 06 20:07
DaemonFC-Apple Technical Service Bulletin Jul 06 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Executives-Run #VMware Harms #GNU #Linux and Wants to Grab Ruby on Rails http://ur1.ca/0huquJul 06 20:13
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DaemonFCMinceR, My favorite hustle is how companies making cell phones make them really fragileJul 06 20:16
DaemonFCeasy to break without the expensive cases and screen protectorsJul 06 20:16
MinceRthere used to be the occasional tough phoneJul 06 20:17
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ID2CbtnKk&feature=fvwJul 06 20:20
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @jcemelanda: ROFL Windows 7 or KDE? http://2tu.us/2dnn yeah... !kde is better!Jul 06 20:20
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ZiomatrixMinceR: Casio seems to be the only one left I know that makes tough phones. Philips Magnavox had some pretty tough ones tooJul 06 20:22
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I forgot, what was the NT Kernel forked from? I just want to know this so I can one up someone in their knowledge of operating systems. Jul 06 20:24
ender2070OS/2Jul 06 20:24
DaemonFCyeahJul 06 20:24
DaemonFCMicrosoft based it on their OS/2 workJul 06 20:24
MinceRdid OS/2 begin as a VMS knockoff?Jul 06 20:24
cubezzzI got a question for you allJul 06 20:24
cubezzzwhat was the first Unix type system for PC?Jul 06 20:24
ZiomatrixMinceR: thats what I thought MS went back to for NTJul 06 20:24
DaemonFClots of former VMS programmers scalped by IBM and Microsoft, MinceR Jul 06 20:24
DaemonFCincluding Dave CutlerJul 06 20:25
ender2070386bsdJul 06 20:25
ender2070?Jul 06 20:25
cubezzzXenix on PC XT 8086 1981Jul 06 20:25
ender2070ahJul 06 20:25
cubezzzmaybe 8088 Jul 06 20:25
cubezzzbut Xenix was first, then VenixJul 06 20:25
ender2070what about first open source unixJul 06 20:26
cubezzzhmmmJul 06 20:26
cubezzzwe were just discussing that in a different forumJul 06 20:27
cubezzz"Net/2 was the basis for two separate ports of BSD to the Intel 80386 architecture: the free 386BSD by William Jolitz and the proprietary BSD/386 (later renamed BSD/OS) by Berkeley Software Design (BSDi)"Jul 06 20:27
cubezzzso I think it was 386BSDJul 06 20:27
ender2070yeahJul 06 20:27
ender2070I wasn't thinking of properitary ones earlierJul 06 20:28
cubezzzNet/2 was a problem for some reasonJul 06 20:28
ender2070who invented unixJul 06 20:28
ender2070Ken ThompsonJul 06 20:29
cubezzzthe name that comes to mind is Dennis Richie but yes also others like KenJul 06 20:29
cubezzzKen Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian KernighanJul 06 20:30
cubezzzbefore my timeJul 06 20:31
cubezzzthe first Unix thing I saw was VenixJul 06 20:31
ender2070well Ken Thompson happened to be one of the people who helped co-invent google goJul 06 20:32
cubezzzI remember he programmed Belle, a chess computerJul 06 20:34
cubezzzearly 1980's... around thereJul 06 20:34
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_(chess_machine)Jul 06 20:35
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cubezzzah late 1970's evenJul 06 20:35
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MadRobotHi all.Jul 06 20:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MeeGo Handset Video (as Ogg) http://techrights.org/2010/07/01/meego-handset-video-as-ogg/ #playoggJul 06 20:42
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schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/63076 "you my friend are an idiot.. its people like you associating terms like virus to opensource that are the real problem. Your irresponsible reporting has little regard for reality. Bravo sir."Jul 06 20:43
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schestowitzIDG....Jul 06 20:43
schestowitzHahaha: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/First-Else-cancelled/Jul 06 20:48
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schestowitzLefty will be laidf off soon, I reckonJul 06 20:48
schestowitzMaybe the garbage men will hire him. He knows how to do trashJul 06 20:49
schestowitzhttp://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/06/30/meegos-sexy-smartphone-ui-goes-on-display/Jul 06 20:49
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schestowitzThat LiMo phone is made by a patent aggressor and ACCESS was involved tooJul 06 20:50
schestowitzExpect them to collapse now (ACCESS)Jul 06 20:50
squarepegyou stung him schestowitz Jul 06 20:52
squarepeg"is open source a virus"   ....Jul 06 20:52
squarepegwhat a wankerJul 06 20:53
ender2070lol??Jul 06 20:55
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schestowitzI;'m doing a post about itJul 06 21:00
schestowitzI wish others would do the sameJul 06 21:00
schestowitzCall the obvious -- ACCESS is a dead suckJul 06 21:00
schestowitz*duckJul 06 21:00
schestowitzsquarepeg: he's an idiot.Jul 06 21:01
schestowitzNot the firstJul 06 21:01
schestowitzI wrote about him beforeJul 06 21:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Here's a new way to blog.....by phone! http://is.gd/dbKRBJul 06 21:09
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DaemonFCwonderfulJul 06 21:11
DaemonFClooks like the Bowen Center is the mental health cartel in these parts :)Jul 06 21:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] first time in ages, @arkadyrose is out without freda. f not yelling for mum yet so far!Jul 06 21:17
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DaemonFC"Under their plan, illegal immigrants would be required to admit that they broke the law and to pay fines and back taxes, pass background checks and prove that they can speak English before going to the back of the line of prospective immigrants seeking permanent legal residency and citizenship."Jul 06 21:25
DaemonFCor they could just keep breaking the law for freeJul 06 21:25
DaemonFCjust a hunchJul 06 21:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Severed Fifth Wallpaper Explosion! Our community is rocking the Wallpaper production - http://soc.li/GVjwPcj #severedfifthJul 06 21:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @deejf: Good news: Gnash (Flash replacement plugin) WORKS in !ubuntu Lucid. YAY. Bad news: any flash object eats up most cpu time. Boo.Jul 06 21:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @toros: David Planella: Translations Advocacy http://is.gd/dbM9q "Translations are a key part of the Ubuntu community..." #locoteamsJul 06 21:34
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sebsebsebHiJul 06 21:36
MinceRhayJul 06 21:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACCESS Co. is Dying http://ur1.ca/0hvv3 Great news; good news for #MeeGo and Android, not just for #LinuxJul 06 21:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right getting myself sorted and home.If it hadn't been for so much travelling this stomach bug wouldnt have bothered me. Been a v good tripJul 06 21:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] And got a lot of stuff sorted.Jul 06 21:40
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/cross-platform-interoperability-importance-to-fade-62201064.htmJul 06 21:47
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schestowitzhttp://opensource.com/business/10/6/influence-social-media-overhypedJul 06 21:53
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schestowitz"How is Access dying good for GNU+Linux? Sure some of it is closed source but Android is Like OSS gone draconian and big brother"Jul 06 21:59
schestowitz"@brotherred Android uses Eclipse licence and MeeGo looks promising because Nokia starts as a leader (with Symbian) and includes !GNU"Jul 06 21:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/38915912#notice-39162727Jul 06 21:59
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schestowitzChallenging the point of the trolls' nestJul 06 21:59
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yuhonghttp://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/06/25/apples-callous-response-to-iphone-4-defect-matched-only-by-its-fanboys-blind-dedication/Jul 06 22:01
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yuhongHopefully you already saw this.Jul 06 22:01
schestowitzI think I saw thatJul 06 22:01
schestowitzI recognise the headlineJul 06 22:02
schestowitzyuhong: I need you to do us a favourJul 06 22:02
yuhongWhat?Jul 06 22:02
yuhonghttp://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/01/all-in-one-computer-sales-up-63-percent-but-apple-losing-out/Jul 06 22:03
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Surprise surprise, they'll talk to me again now that I'm insuredJul 06 22:16
DaemonFC:PJul 06 22:16
schestowitz"http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NONPROFIT_RECOVERY?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULTJul 06 22:17
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schestowitzDaemonFC: the doc?Jul 06 22:17
DaemonFCyepJul 06 22:17
DaemonFCschestowitz, Even offered to overlook the last little nonpayment of billJul 06 22:18
*DaemonFC is back in the Bowen Cartel saddleJul 06 22:18
DaemonFC:PJul 06 22:18
DaemonFCschestowitz, Indiana law says that there can be only one community mental health center per county Jul 06 22:19
DaemonFCthey have a sliding scale if you have no insuranceJul 06 22:19
DaemonFCthat's what the community mental health center deal is all aboutJul 06 22:19
DaemonFCThe local cartel, Bowen Center, was so thankful to our former Governor, Otis Bowen, for signing that lawJul 06 22:20
DaemonFCthat they named themselves after himJul 06 22:20
schestowitz"Meego for me is the best of all. Upstream first seems to be the way Meego does it. That shows the commitment I want."Jul 06 22:20
schestowitz"Intel and Nokia are top Linux committers now"Jul 06 22:20
DaemonFCstate-protected monopoly Jul 06 22:21
DaemonFCwhat they do is if you're on the sliding scale or Medicaid or Medicare, they actually break the lawJul 06 22:21
schestowitz"Still fond of the old Palm OS whoes apps will still work (I think) with a recompile on Access." [me: @brotherred I still use my Palm Tungsten on a daily basis ]Jul 06 22:21
schestowitzMeeGO looks OKJul 06 22:21
DaemonFCthey have you see a Nurse Practitioner Jul 06 22:21
schestowitzI hate Intel, but Nokia is not as badJul 06 22:21
DaemonFCand they bill the state for a visit with the Psychiatrist Jul 06 22:21
schestowitzAndroid and MeeGo should both compete at the topJul 06 22:21
schestowitzhypePhone is fallingJul 06 22:22
DaemonFCwell, it's more like "bending the law"Jul 06 22:22
schestowitzYou can see the chartJul 06 22:22
MinceRi don't use my palm tungsten because it fucking bricked itselfJul 06 22:22
schestowitzApple going down, Linux/Android ascending at its expense :0-)Jul 06 22:22
DaemonFCbecause ISDH says that the Nurse Practitioner is operating under his licenseJul 06 22:22
schestowitzApple sues :-)Jul 06 22:22
schestowitzJobs lost his marbles. Maybe he needs a transplantJul 06 22:22
DaemonFCso you're seeing someone that makes $15 an hour and the Bowen Cartel gets to bill the state for someone making closer to $70 an hourJul 06 22:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: do you get day off tomorrow?Jul 06 22:23
schestowitzOr on Monday?Jul 06 22:23
DaemonFCI'll have to clear it with me firstJul 06 22:23
schestowitzI want to know when you guys take a break for Ind. Day when it falls on SundayJul 06 22:23
DaemonFCand I'm a real ball breaker when I'm in HR manager modeJul 06 22:23
DaemonFCI don't give me an inchJul 06 22:23
schestowitzSo that I can coordinate reading newsJul 06 22:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, Traditionally, it's the preceding Friday or the following MondayJul 06 22:24
schestowitzWhich one?Jul 06 22:24
DaemonFCdepends on your company policyJul 06 22:24
schestowitzI could guess that tooJul 06 22:24
schestowitzOK, so I guess 4-day low-volumeJul 06 22:24
DaemonFCA lot of places have you work a 5 day week anywayJul 06 22:24
DaemonFCand jsut tack on another 8 hours payJul 06 22:24
schestowitzI fell behind in news reading, so this is handy time for the holidayJul 06 22:24
DaemonFCschestowitz, Walmart has the most evil policy for holiday pay I've ever seenJul 06 22:25
DaemonFCthe computer figures it based on a fraction of the hours worked in the 12 weeks before the week of the holidayJul 06 22:25
DaemonFCso if you see like 7.92 hours of pay, that's whyJul 06 22:25
DaemonFCif they can gyp a million people out of a fraction of an hour...Jul 06 22:26
DaemonFCThey recognize New Years, Independence Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas Jul 06 22:27
DaemonFCthen they typically cut you a day that weekJul 06 22:27
DaemonFCnot necessarily the holidayJul 06 22:27
DaemonFCSo if Thanksgiving is Thursday, you may get any day besides ThusdayJul 06 22:28
DaemonFC:)Jul 06 22:28
DaemonFCor Thursday if you're one of the suck-upsJul 06 22:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, I enjoyed being an hourly manager more than being a salary managerJul 06 22:28
DaemonFCbecause I could override the scheduling system and give myself the actual holidaysJul 06 22:29
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 22:29
DaemonFCwhen you're an assistant manager though, the Co managers or the Store manager tell you what you get, and you're salary so you don't get anythingJul 06 22:29
DaemonFCnice big fuck you and topped off with unpaid overtimeJul 06 22:30
schestowitzwatch languageJul 06 22:30
DaemonFC:DJul 06 22:30
schestowitzno f word if you can avoid itJul 06 22:30
DaemonFCschestowitz, They hate Support ManagersJul 06 22:30
DaemonFCbecause you still qualify as an hourly but you have most of the authoritah of an AssistantJul 06 22:31
DaemonFCthey consider a Support Manager kind of like a way around the training policy which states that you have to go to a different store if they call you an Assistant Manager TraineeJul 06 22:32
DaemonFCso you're never in that position for more than a year or so if they can help itJul 06 22:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/38915912#notice-39167985Jul 06 22:32
schestowitz"@brotherred do a Web search on  "linux top commiters" (Novell fell well behind, Intel still up, Nokia above Novell IIRC)"Jul 06 22:32
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schestowitzNovell is no longer a Linux companyJul 06 22:32
schestowitzThey just use RHEL-developed stuffJul 06 22:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, And the assistant managers pawn their authoritah off on you when it's something menialJul 06 22:33
schestowitzThen they sell 'clouds'Jul 06 22:33
DaemonFCso I could do things like override the time clockJul 06 22:33
schestowitzand IWMJul 06 22:33
DaemonFCeven when I shouldn't have been allowed toJul 06 22:33
DaemonFCif you're not on the schedule, the time clock will flash red and say "Rejected - Not Scheduled"Jul 06 22:33
schestowitzhttp://science.slashdot.org/story/10/06/29/1856248/Daily-Kos-Pollster-Made-Up-NumbersJul 06 22:34
DaemonFCit's a way of enforcing cut hoursJul 06 22:34
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schestowitzDaily POSJul 06 22:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: Walmart ruins your countryJul 06 22:34
DaemonFCand there's an Overtime Tracking Report which means that if you go 8 seconds into overtime by mistake, it's technically grounds for a write-upJul 06 22:34
schestowitzOne owner of factoryJul 06 22:35
schestowitzMany 'chicken/s' in the coopJul 06 22:35
DaemonFCschestowitz, 39.99 hours is OKJul 06 22:35
schestowitzWorking for pittance to buy chicken skin to eatJul 06 22:35
DaemonFC40.00 hours is OKJul 06 22:35
DaemonFC40.01 hours is write-upJul 06 22:35
schestowitzMaybe soon enough even Ghana will be richer than you, Daemon Football ClucJul 06 22:35
schestowitz*bJul 06 22:35
DaemonFCschestowitz, Walmart is ruthlessly efficientJul 06 22:36
DaemonFCyou have no ideaJul 06 22:36
schestowitzFor who\?Jul 06 22:36
schestowitzCustomer?Jul 06 22:36
schestowitzManagers?Jul 06 22:36
schestowitzSellers?Jul 06 22:36
DaemonFCboth in a wayJul 06 22:36
schestowitzExtraction from planet Earth?Jul 06 22:36
schestowitzThat's the wrong metricJul 06 22:36
DaemonFCThey have motivation to cut prices to the bone insofar as running the local competitors outJul 06 22:36
DaemonFCthen you see no rollbacks at allJul 06 22:36
schestowitzIt's like saying, we found a way to get lumber more quickly from BrazilJul 06 22:36
schestowitzIs that a measure of success?Jul 06 22:36
DaemonFCyesJul 06 22:37
schestowitzTo whom?Jul 06 22:37
DaemonFCanything that saves the company a fraction of a percent of their overhead cost is a winJul 06 22:37
cubezzzWalmart should be avoidedJul 06 22:37
schestowitzAtmosphere, Amazon tribes, US customers of sofas?Jul 06 22:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, This green initiative is a win for Walmart, both PR and operating expenseJul 06 22:37
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704103904575336411979640900.html?KEYWORDS=russian+spiesJul 06 22:38
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schestowitziVanJul 06 22:38
DaemonFCminimize packaging, put in skylights = Less trucks, less diesel, less drivers, less insurance, less electric billJul 06 22:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: but all companies are "green"Jul 06 22:38
schestowitzAnd all companies are "open"Jul 06 22:38
DaemonFCso they can say they're doing it to save the EarthJul 06 22:38
DaemonFCand get a PR win at the same timeJul 06 22:38
schestowitzIt's like a bunch of rubbish certificationJul 06 22:38
schestowitzLike that stupid "kosher' stamp you pay extra for when you buy some merchandiseJul 06 22:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, What's funny is how Walmart dictated laundry soap water contentJul 06 22:39
cubezzzI don't think you can say all companies are openJul 06 22:39
DaemonFCit's no longer a war of how much "fluid" is in that bottleJul 06 22:39
schestowitzCults collect their 'tax' with some superstitionJul 06 22:39
DaemonFChow much water they can add to make their unit price look betterJul 06 22:39
schestowitzIt's also like this with gegulationJul 06 22:39
DaemonFCit's not all about how tiny the bottle isJul 06 22:39
schestowitzCLaim something is violatedJul 06 22:39
schestowitzThen sell the cureJul 06 22:39
DaemonFCand how many loads of laundry it can doJul 06 22:39
schestowitzWater filters...Jul 06 22:39
DaemonFC*now all aboutJul 06 22:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeah, you can make packages smaller instead of making something more expensiveJul 06 22:40
schestowitzTHat's what they do in the US with cerealJul 06 22:40
schestowitzThey inflate it with more airJul 06 22:40
schestowitzThis gives the corn more volumeJul 06 22:40
DaemonFCWalmart got sick of having to ship bottles of laundry detergent that were 4 times bigger than they needed to be to do X amount of laundry loadsJul 06 22:40
cubezzzhmmmJul 06 22:40
DaemonFCso they made the suppliers knock that offJul 06 22:40
MinceRbut first they need to kill the cerealJul 06 22:40
schestowitzThen they make smaller packs that cost more money to make than processing of the corn, which is likely GMed in the USJul 06 22:40
MinceRthat's what the Cereal Killer is for.Jul 06 22:40
cubezzzuhhhJul 06 22:41
DaemonFCschestowitz, Monsanto seedsJul 06 22:41
DaemonFCftwJul 06 22:41
DaemonFCsterile seeds from the new harvestJul 06 22:41
schestowitzMoney SantaJul 06 22:41
DaemonFC= sell farmers more seed next seasonJul 06 22:41
schestowitzBut G-Med foodJul 06 22:41
schestowitzGive money to SantosJul 06 22:41
DaemonFCthe interesting thing about GM'd food is that they've actually done some useful things with itJul 06 22:42
DaemonFClike making corn that insects don't want to eatJul 06 22:42
schestowitzSometims they feed just cattle with itJul 06 22:42
DaemonFCless spoiled crops for the farmersJul 06 22:42
cubezzzso what cereal should I be eating?Jul 06 22:42
schestowitzThen use the animals as a sort of filterJul 06 22:42
DaemonFCcubezzz, I don't think it mattersJul 06 22:42
schestowitz"Here, Betsy the cow, eat this rubbish, gain weight"Jul 06 22:42
DaemonFCthe whole GM'd food scare is up there with the fluoridated water scareJul 06 22:43
schestowitzBetsy is a bunch of cells to make more biological material to feed $consumer's stomachJul 06 22:43
DaemonFCit's all all from the Martians are gonna get us crowdJul 06 22:43
MinceRexcept it's not entirely a scareJul 06 22:43
MinceRi know of two problems with GM'd foodJul 06 22:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: they can inter-breed to make natural variationsJul 06 22:43
DaemonFCMinceR, Joseph Mercola Jul 06 22:43
DaemonFClook him upJul 06 22:43
schestowitzOnes that nature approves of, not sterileJul 06 22:43
DaemonFCsame quacks follow himJul 06 22:43
MinceRone is that they lock you into certain chemicals to treat them withJul 06 22:44
schestowitzBut gene splicing is like pretending you can build life by just screwing about with codeJul 06 22:44
DaemonFCschestowitz, If they can tinker with it to increase yield, it's a winJul 06 22:44
MinceRanother is that they're occasionally modified into producing substances but aren't medically tested for the resultsJul 06 22:44
DaemonFCpersiodJul 06 22:44
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DaemonFCand if it's sterile, it's not going to interbreed with anythingJul 06 22:44
DaemonFCso where's the harm?Jul 06 22:45
MinceRiirc there was an article about itJul 06 22:45
schestowitz[22:44] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, If they can tinker with it to increase yield, it's a winJul 06 22:45
schestowitzTo whom?Jul 06 22:45
DaemonFCeveryoneJul 06 22:45
MinceRDaemonFC: if it's sterile. it occasionally might not be.Jul 06 22:45
DaemonFCthe customer pays higher prices when there's a lower yieldJul 06 22:45
schestowitz[22:44] <MinceR> another is that they're occasionally modified into producing substances but aren't medically tested for the resultsJul 06 22:45
schestowitzNot treuwJul 06 22:45
schestowitzThey test on ratsJul 06 22:45
schestowitzFor a few daysJul 06 22:45
DaemonFCmore people go hungry if the bugs eat half the cropJul 06 22:45
*cubezzz munches on Oat O'sJul 06 22:45
schestowitzBRING to market. FAST.Jul 06 22:45
DaemonFCprofits go down for the people growing itJul 06 22:45
schestowitzTest on rats for human studies...Jul 06 22:45
schestowitz:-)Jul 06 22:45
DaemonFCeveryone loses when you don't go with GM'd foodJul 06 22:45
schestowitzAnd use small sample, few daysJul 06 22:45
DaemonFCbut these Mercola idiots are the ones against GM'd foodJul 06 22:46
schestowitzTo better serve the impatient shareholdersJul 06 22:46
DaemonFCthe pseudoscience moronsJul 06 22:46
DaemonFCthe aspartame scare idiotsJul 06 22:46
DaemonFCsame peopleJul 06 22:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: they don't only increase yieldJul 06 22:46
schestowitzThey do the perturbation to tell pesticidesJul 06 22:46
schestowitzRoundupJul 06 22:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, You ever hear the phrase "Same shit, different asshole"?Jul 06 22:46
schestowitzSo it's engineering them to sell a so-called soluitionJul 06 22:46
schestowitzSolution in search for a problemJul 06 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mercola is OKJul 06 22:47
MinceRiirc there also were intellectual monopoly issuesJul 06 22:47
DaemonFCIf you believe GM'd food is bad, go take some homeopathic remedies next time you get sickJul 06 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe they had the same mealJul 06 22:47
DaemonFCsame peopleJul 06 22:47
MinceRDaemonFC: bullshitJul 06 22:47
schestowitz:-)Jul 06 22:47
cubezzzI'm sure homeopathic remedies work for some thingsJul 06 22:48
MinceRonly as much as placeboJul 06 22:48
MinceRplacebo does work in some cases thoughJul 06 22:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mercola promotes "homeopathic remedies"\?Jul 06 22:48
MinceRbut homeopathy is still a scamJul 06 22:48
DaemonFCfluoride makes you sterile, artificial sweeteners make you sterile, so sterile that the people who consume the most of it are the ones with al lthe kids on welfareJul 06 22:48
schestowitz[22:48] <cubezzz> I'm sure homeopathic remedies work for some thingsJul 06 22:48
schestowitzPlaceboJul 06 22:48
DaemonFCso I call bullshit on thatJul 06 22:48
schestowitzPill colour :-)Jul 06 22:48
MinceRDaemonFC: yes, that's very scientificJul 06 22:48
cubezzzI think human fertility is decreasing thoughJul 06 22:49
schestowitzI'd vote for dandyJul 06 22:49
cubezzzwhich is probably a good thingJul 06 22:49
schestowitzAt least it containds active ingredientsJul 06 22:49
DaemonFCcubezzz, That's why Earth has almost 7 billion peopleJul 06 22:49
DaemonFCbecause fertility is clearly downJul 06 22:49
schestowitzAsk patient what colour they expect the magic pill to beJul 06 22:49
schestowitzMake them some nice pollypopJul 06 22:49
schestowitzServe with man-in-white-coatJul 06 22:49
MinceR'there's one person who drinks it and has children' => 'cannot possibly increase the chance of sterility'Jul 06 22:49
MinceRthat's the very image of the scientific method, right?Jul 06 22:49
schestowitzMinceR: try chiroJul 06 22:50
MinceRwhat's that?Jul 06 22:50
schestowitzMy old grandma tried it and it worked for her :-)Jul 06 22:50
cubezzzwell we've had the pill since the 60'sJul 06 22:50
DaemonFCfertility is down in first world countries because most of them are smart enough to use birth control to protect their own assets Jul 06 22:50
schestowitzIt must be all trueJul 06 22:50
DaemonFCpeople in the third world have nothing to loseJul 06 22:50
schestowitzDon't believe all those sccccccccccientistsJul 06 22:50
MinceRfertility should be down everywhereJul 06 22:50
schestowitzI trust me [sic] grandmaJul 06 22:50
DaemonFCand having 50 kids means that 5 might survive to take care of them when they're old and feebleJul 06 22:50
schestowitzSarcasm aside, There  are many Yanks who go like thisJul 06 22:50
MinceRschestowitz: fucking magnets, how do they work?Jul 06 22:50
schestowitzAnecdote before reswarchJul 06 22:51
MinceRhere's a yank who works like that.Jul 06 22:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, Having 50 kids so that 5 may survive and take care of you is how our reproductive system is designed to workJul 06 22:51
schestowitzI reckon one in two smokers will say something like, my dad/friend/<other> smoked for  X years and nothing happenedJul 06 22:51
DaemonFCbirth control is a patchJul 06 22:51
DaemonFCliteralyl and metaphoricallyJul 06 22:51
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MinceRwe're not "designed" to have technology, so go back to the treesJul 06 22:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Windows 8 – A secret leak? ;) and what happens when Microsoft innovates? Failure? http://tinyurl.com/32tyf8z #microsoft #mvp #windows #kinJul 06 22:52
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schestowitzMinceR: 'God' gave us a gift :-)Jul 06 22:52
MinceRyeahJul 06 22:52
MinceRlike quantum mechanicsJul 06 22:52
schestowitzThose Neanderthals were a different speciesJul 06 22:52
DaemonFCMinceR, We are designed in the sense that evolution has geared us towards traits that favor the continuation of the speciesJul 06 22:52
DaemonFCso yes, humans are designed through natural selectionJul 06 22:52
schestowitzANd the world is just 6000 years old, so they don't exist :-)Jul 06 22:52
schestowitzGod gave us the hypePhone :-)Jul 06 22:52
DaemonFCand we've overcome the process through technologyJul 06 22:52
MinceRDaemonFC: that favored the continuation of the species. FTFYJul 06 22:52
schestowitzDescended in a Bush in Mount SinaiJul 06 22:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @stonemirror Wow, Microsoft's halting Sidekick sales, too, huh? It be the week to kill off cell phone platforms, I guess.Jul 06 22:53
MinceRDaemonFC: making the planet uninhabitable before we can get off it is not going to favor the continuation of the species.Jul 06 22:53
DaemonFCwhen I say "designed" I mean, that in natural selection, stupid traits don't tend to last longJul 06 22:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: preserving knowledge got us thereJul 06 22:53
DaemonFCDNA mutates and favorable traits are passed downJul 06 22:53
schestowitzAnd marginalising pseudo-scienceJul 06 22:53
MinceRactually stupid traits do tend to last longJul 06 22:53
MinceRas long as they don't inhibit reproductionJul 06 22:53
schestowitzWhich sadly parts of the Internet promoteJul 06 22:53
schestowitzAlex Jokes for exampleJul 06 22:53
DaemonFCMinceR, A digestive tract that works against gravity wouldn't evolveJul 06 22:54
DaemonFCbecause it's not advantagous Jul 06 22:54
MinceRyou're way out of your league :>Jul 06 22:54
schestowitzHe too descended from the old apes :-)Jul 06 22:54
cubezzzbarfing? :)Jul 06 22:54
cubezzzseems to work against gravityJul 06 22:55
DaemonFCpeople developed guns because they tend to work well against swords, sticks, and stonesJul 06 22:55
DaemonFCprogressJul 06 22:55
DaemonFCthat's technologyJul 06 22:55
DaemonFCtotally different topicJul 06 22:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: great flood >>> gunJul 06 22:55
schestowitzRain of hail.............Jul 06 22:56
MinceRguns didn't evolveJul 06 22:56
schestowitzNot enougn manaJul 06 22:56
MinceRat least not in the same sense of the wordJul 06 22:56
cubezzznot biologically no :)Jul 06 22:56
DaemonFCSticks and stones may break my bones, if you get manage to get within the effective range of my sidearm somehow Jul 06 22:56
DaemonFC(doubtful)Jul 06 22:57
schestowitzDepends what you mean by "Gun"Jul 06 22:57
*MinceR drops a stick on DaemonFC from orbitJul 06 22:57
cubezzzwhat if the other guy has a killdozer?Jul 06 22:57
cubezzzkilldozer beats gunJul 06 22:57
DaemonFCMinceR, So it can burn up on re-entry?Jul 06 22:57
*MinceR is reading about the killdozerJul 06 22:58
MinceRit's awesomeJul 06 22:58
MinceRit's very a-team :>Jul 06 22:58
DaemonFCMinceR, Next time, try a Brilliant Pebble Jul 06 22:58
DaemonFCor maybe a Thor satellite Jul 06 22:58
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 22:58
DaemonFCPro-tip!Jul 06 22:58
DaemonFC:DJul 06 22:58
*cubezzz hears the A-team theme song in his headJul 06 22:58
MinceRDaemonFC: it's a stick made of depleted uranium.Jul 06 22:58
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyz_2DEah4oJul 06 22:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Finns get a right to broadband – can we repeal the Digital Economy Act? | Technology | guardian.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/2vrg8ssJul 06 22:59
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DaemonFCMinceR, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative#Brilliant_PebblesJul 06 22:59
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DaemonFCthose work wellJul 06 22:59
DaemonFClittle expensiveJul 06 22:59
DaemonFCPrompt Global Strike is more practical thoughJul 06 22:59
DaemonFCI don't see any reason why a Brilliant Pebble would be ineffective against a stationary ground targetJul 06 23:00
DaemonFCmaybe a bit lower latency than a PGS missileJul 06 23:01
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_Global_StrikeJul 06 23:01
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DaemonFCthose are definitely coolJul 06 23:01
DaemonFCthe only downside is that you have to call ahead and tell the Russians it's not a nuclear ICBM firstJul 06 23:02
MinceRactually they're hotJul 06 23:02
DaemonFC:PJul 06 23:02
MinceRespecially when usedJul 06 23:02
*MinceR prompts Global Strike.Jul 06 23:02
DaemonFCPrompt Global Strike should scare the shit out of those dime store prop-up dictatorsJul 06 23:03
DaemonFCdon't you agree?Jul 06 23:03
DaemonFC:DJul 06 23:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The last article of mine was published entirely with my HTC Desire #htc #desire #microsoft #mvp http://tinyurl.com/32tyf8zJul 06 23:04
TechrightsTitle: Windows 8  A secret leak? ;) and what happens when Microsoft innovates? Failure? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 42.07 KBJul 06 23:04
cubezzzwhat the heck is windows 8?Jul 06 23:04
DaemonFCWindows 8 is ZOMG The Mac Just Works!, Be more like them.Jul 06 23:04
DaemonFCDRM....mmmmmmmJul 06 23:04
*DaemonFC faps Jul 06 23:04
DaemonFCthat's Windows 8Jul 06 23:05
DaemonFCthey'll spin the DRM as a system to pwn malwareJul 06 23:05
MinceRlolJul 06 23:05
schestowitzVista 8Jul 06 23:05
DaemonFCnot a system to extract more money from their victimsJul 06 23:05
MinceRtoo bad they Just Don't WorkJul 06 23:05
DaemonFCwhich is what it isJul 06 23:05
schestowitzLipstick edition, with vapourJul 06 23:05
DaemonFCI could see a Windows 8 that refuses to run anything Microsoft hasn't digitally signedJul 06 23:06
DaemonFCperhaps using your TPM in the processJul 06 23:06
schestowitz"That f’Kin Phone?"Jul 06 23:06
MinceRVista With An Ever Bigger Number After It!(tm)Jul 06 23:06
schestowitz: -)Jul 06 23:06
MinceR:DJul 06 23:06
DaemonFCMinceR, The Microsoft Store would probably have a submission process for things like FirefoxJul 06 23:07
DaemonFConly Approved Firefox would runJul 06 23:07
DaemonFCfor exampleJul 06 23:07
DaemonFCit's a way to make the OS into a closed system like most mobile phones already areJul 06 23:07
DaemonFCsure you can do that and comply with the GPLJul 06 23:08
cubezzzI like older systemsJul 06 23:08
DaemonFCbecause the user can't actually compile the source code and run it anywayJul 06 23:08
cubezzzmore succinctJul 06 23:08
MinceRsadly, Heemeyer failed to demolish the local brainwashing centerJul 06 23:08
MinceRDaemonFC: well, it worked for crAppleJul 06 23:08
MinceRDaemonFC: just like the hypePhone->KinJul 06 23:09
DaemonFCMinceR, GPL 3 will basically backfire when it comes to Windows appsJul 06 23:09
MinceRL<Jul 06 23:09
MinceR:>Jul 06 23:09
DaemonFCMicrosoft will simply refuse to host themJul 06 23:09
DaemonFCthat's what I can see unfoldingJul 06 23:09
DaemonFCand GPL 2 apps giveyou source code you can't build and use on WindowsJul 06 23:09
MinceRDaemonFC: vista8 won't have enough of a presence in the market to make that countJul 06 23:09
DaemonFCMinceR, Two things will happen when that system rolls outJul 06 23:09
MinceRbusinesses are refusing vista and vista7 already, even though they aren't so locked downJul 06 23:10
DaemonFCthe people who are smart enough to care will mass migrate to Linux or somethingJul 06 23:10
schestowitz[23:10] <MinceR> businesses are refusing vista and vista7 already, even though they aren't so locked down]Jul 06 23:10
DaemonFCthe vast majority of stupid idiots will pay Microsoft more moneyJul 06 23:10
schestowitz[Until they buy a new PC]Jul 06 23:10
DaemonFCif Microsoft feared a mass exodus to Linux, they wouldn't even speak of such a systemJul 06 23:10
DaemonFCso they obviously don't fear thatJul 06 23:10
MinceRm$ is cluelessJul 06 23:10
MinceRif they knew their stuff so well, they wouldn't be declining like they areJul 06 23:11
DaemonFCI think 90% of people will just use Windows regardless of what Microsoft demands from themJul 06 23:11
DaemonFCjust like they do nowJul 06 23:11
DaemonFCjust like Apple users do nowJul 06 23:11
MinceRDaemonFC: refusing to downgrade from xp to vista or vista7 is nothing compared to the backlash such a closed system would bringJul 06 23:12
cubezzzwhat about my 486? :)Jul 06 23:12
DaemonFCMinceR, People resisted Vista because it was slow and full of bugsJul 06 23:12
cubezzzcan't run doze on thatJul 06 23:12
DaemonFCyou almsot never heard DRM complaintsJul 06 23:12
MinceRDaemonFC: guess what, all winblows versions ever are slow and full of bugsJul 06 23:13
DaemonFCwell, Microsoft wants to make it "work well" but restrict what you can do with it at the same timeJul 06 23:13
DaemonFCwhich from a user's point of view, can happenJul 06 23:13
DaemonFCand that's scaryJul 06 23:13
MinceRthey've been wanting to make it "work well" for decadesJul 06 23:13
MinceRwanting is not enoughJul 06 23:14
DaemonFCApple gives people the impression it works well while making the system a walled gardenJul 06 23:14
DaemonFCwhy can't Microsoft?Jul 06 23:14
MinceRbecause they're differentJul 06 23:14
MinceRyou can see where m$ aping crApple ledJul 06 23:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This is why schools need to reform their examination process to test for in-place skills/methods: http://ur1.ca/0hwzeJul 06 23:15
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MinceRalso, the OEMs m$ colludes with won't stand for such a system eitherJul 06 23:15
schestowitzAndroid is also somewhat locked downJul 06 23:16
MinceRthey will insist on their crapwareJul 06 23:16
schestowitzUnless you know what you're doingJul 06 23:16
schestowitzThat's the "Linux" that threatens Microsoft more/most right nowJul 06 23:16
MinceRif you know what you're doing, why are you running android?Jul 06 23:16
schestowitzDell looks into Linux atm (chrome oh-ass)Jul 06 23:16
DaemonFCApple's campaign of blaming the user whenever their stuff malfunctions typically worksJul 06 23:17
MinceRfor crApple, in their little cultJul 06 23:17
DaemonFCiPhone says (thick Jamaican accent) "Don't touch me there man!"Jul 06 23:17
DaemonFC:DJul 06 23:17
MinceRnot for m$ and not in businessesJul 06 23:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/38922410#notice-39168339 "but if you ever find anything where perens talks about webmink, i'd love to watch/read it"Jul 06 23:17
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schestowitzI can think of no such thing, never seen them in tandem (Except webM debacle)Jul 06 23:18
DaemonFCyeah, most companies would never live down actually saying "Our phone works, except when you hold it in your hand"Jul 06 23:19
DaemonFCApple somehow manages to deflect this stuff :)Jul 06 23:19
DaemonFCMicrosoft is trying to figure out how to get away with that tooJul 06 23:20
DaemonFC:)Jul 06 23:20
MinceRtheir cult is differentJul 06 23:22
MinceRnot a lot different, mind youJul 06 23:22
MinceRbut certainly not vocal enough for this sort of bullshitJul 06 23:22
DaemonFCI actually laughed when I saw that and said out loud "What the hell? And those things cost how much?"Jul 06 23:23
MinceRthey don't believe themselves to be cool enough for itJul 06 23:23
DaemonFCutter disbelief that the cheap no-name phone that I got with my plan actually works betterJul 06 23:23
DaemonFCyet the hypePhone is a household name?Jul 06 23:23
MinceRyeah, sadly the shoddiness of crApple products is not well knownJul 06 23:23
MinceRprobably in part because they're so overpriced most consumers don't get to experience that crappiness firsthandJul 06 23:24
DaemonFCand Stockholm Syndrome for people that convince themselves they're not stupid for buying it for $500?Jul 06 23:24
DaemonFCIT CAN'T BE BAD!!! I PAID for it!!!Jul 06 23:24
MinceRindeedJul 06 23:24
DaemonFCIt is ME, I am a naughty money who touched my phone inappropriately!Jul 06 23:25
DaemonFCI shorted it out, it was MEEEEEEE!!!Jul 06 23:25
DaemonFCheheJul 06 23:25
MinceRof course the "selling crap at ridiculously high prices" part can easily be replicatedJul 06 23:25
MinceRbut i'm certainly not hearing nearly as much grassroots(?) raving about m$ products being perfectJul 06 23:27
schestowitz[23:23] <DaemonFC> yet the hypePhone is a household name?Jul 06 23:28
schestowitzIs it?Jul 06 23:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, Quit touching it! You infuriate the phone gods!Jul 06 23:29
DaemonFCyou call their wrath upon you!Jul 06 23:29
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 23:29
schestowitz[23:25] <DaemonFC> I shorted it out, it was MEEEEEEE!!!Jul 06 23:29
schestowitzMinceR will recall the mac crashesJul 06 23:29
schestowitzs* hit the fanJul 06 23:30
DaemonFChttp://notontheguestlist.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/lourdes-is-just-like-any-other-teenager/Jul 06 23:30
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schestowitzFan said Mac shut down to cool downJul 06 23:30
DaemonFC"Well,  ok, the daughter of Madonna isn’t quite your average 13-year-old." Jul 06 23:30
DaemonFCTrying to get herself raped by dressing like a prostitute?Jul 06 23:30
DaemonFCseems average to meJul 06 23:30
DaemonFCkids....Jul 06 23:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Listening to Annihilator's self-titled new album from the Ubuntu One Music Store. Pretty good. :-)Jul 06 23:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: no girl that young would /try/ thatJul 06 23:31
schestowitzThat's what rapists say to defend themselvesJul 06 23:31
schestowitz"She asked for it"Jul 06 23:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, I would be an Al Bundy type dad, kind ofJul 06 23:32
DaemonFCI'd never let my kids dress that wayJul 06 23:32
schestowitzGirls may want attention, but not to attract pervertsJul 06 23:32
DaemonFCAND I would mutilate anyone who tried something with them :PJul 06 23:32
schestowitzbasically, women go out to clubs and reject some as ugly and some as who they aim forJul 06 23:32
schestowitzIt's like a stupid rutJul 06 23:32
schestowitz[23:32] <DaemonFC> I'd never let my kids dress that wayJul 06 23:33
schestowitzWhat kids?Jul 06 23:33
DaemonFCthe hypothetical onesJul 06 23:33
schestowitzYou threaten cops, they won't let you adopt oneJul 06 23:33
DaemonFCthe ones who hypothetically are prematurely aging meJul 06 23:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: you MUST have kidsJul 06 23:33
DaemonFCnyet!Jul 06 23:34
schestowitzIf not, then you're a worthles human being /sarcasmJul 06 23:34
DaemonFCthe evil stops here!Jul 06 23:34
schestowitzGo get a /REAL/ jobJul 06 23:34
schestowitzIf you don't make a lot of money, you are worthless ;-)Jul 06 23:34
schestowitzFarmers are worthless.... big people in big banks who push paper around save our worldJul 06 23:34
DaemonFCsure, make money so you can have kids and sell them into white slavery tooJul 06 23:34
DaemonFCno thanksJul 06 23:34
schestowitz:-)Jul 06 23:34
schestowitzApple has a new campaignJul 06 23:35
schestowitzNot "plant a tree"Jul 06 23:35
schestowitz"Adopt a Foxconn employee"Jul 06 23:35
DaemonFCWe're eco-friendly, this line of phones was made up entirely of recycled slaves who rebelled against usJul 06 23:35
schestowitzFor just $29.99/month you can adopt a cogwheel named LeeJul 06 23:35
DaemonFCmuahahahahaaaaa!!!!Jul 06 23:35
schestowitzThey'll send you photos of him/her every monthJul 06 23:35
schestowitzShowing how Lee makes you the next defective hypePhoneJul 06 23:36
DaemonFCSoylent hypePhoneJul 06 23:36
schestowitzOn the cover there are photos of Lee being whipped for making a dodgy antenna thingieJul 06 23:36
schestowitzFor the BSM crowdJul 06 23:36
schestowitzThey like AppleJul 06 23:36
schestowitzCults think alikeJul 06 23:36
schestowitzMy post about IEEE got about 30 mentioned in TwitterJul 06 23:38
schestowitz*mentionsJul 06 23:38
schestowitzBad PR for the IEEEJul 06 23:38
schestowitzThey won't increase their membership with their swpats stanceJul 06 23:38
DaemonFCMinceR, Soylent hypePhone is people you have to hold a certain way!Jul 06 23:38
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 23:38
DaemonFCI wonder if I could manage to make an Uncyclopedia page about the Soylent hypePhoneJul 06 23:40
DaemonFCschestowitz?Jul 06 23:40
DaemonFCschestowitz, Virtual XP Mode is basically there to act as a piece of crippleware that sells copies of VMWareJul 06 23:42
DaemonFCthat's my opinionJul 06 23:42
DaemonFCyou notice that if you pop it into VMWare you can actually use things like hardware accelerated DirectX?Jul 06 23:43
DaemonFCbut in return, VMWare enforces the Windows 7 Professional requirement to use the VHDJul 06 23:44
DaemonFCback scratchingJul 06 23:44
MinceRvmware is a competitor to some m$ productsJul 06 23:45
MinceRvirtual pc and some shit like thatJul 06 23:45
DaemonFCObviously there's a back alley agreement to not compete with each other and to divert customers to each other's more expensive productsJul 06 23:45
MinceRin return, vmware itself is crapJul 06 23:45
DaemonFCVirtual PC is not a competitor to VMWareJul 06 23:45
DaemonFCnothing that limits your video to a 4 MB Framebuffer is a VMWare competitorJul 06 23:46
MinceRthey have other randomly named products such as hyper-vJul 06 23:46
DaemonFCVirtual PC is to VMWare like Notepad.exe is to MS OfficeJul 06 23:46
MinceRbut you're the mvp, you ought to knowJul 06 23:46
DaemonFCyeah, but Hyper-V doesn't run on Windows 7 ProfessionalJul 06 23:47
MinceRir crawls?Jul 06 23:47
MinceRs/ir/it/Jul 06 23:47
DaemonFCHyper-V only supports Windows Server as the hostJul 06 23:48
DaemonFCso nobody using Windows as a desktop has access to Hyper-VJul 06 23:48
MinceRthat's another thing m$ wants you to buyJul 06 23:48
MinceRno surprise thereJul 06 23:48
MinceRsome levels of vmware failure require running as the osJul 06 23:48
DaemonFCGreg Kroah-Hartman is obviously pissedJul 06 23:49
MinceR(but for that you get nice features like getting thrown out of the vmware console every 5 minutes)Jul 06 23:50
DaemonFCwith regards to the Hyper-V drivers that Microsoft only comes back and does something with to satisfy the -staging requirementsJul 06 23:50
DaemonFCYou mean loading VMWare as the OS and it proceeds to load the actual OS in a hypervisor Jul 06 23:51
DaemonFCyeah, sounds good in theoryJul 06 23:51
DaemonFCbut you know that's going to be painful and full of bugsJul 06 23:52
DaemonFC"hv - Microsoft Hyper V drivers. The developers again seem to have disappeared, this is getting old. Slated for removal in 2.6.35"Jul 06 23:53
DaemonFCheheJul 06 23:53
MinceRof course workstations aren't left out of vmware fun eitherJul 06 23:53
MinceRgreat stuff like randomly ceasing to function on kernel upgradesJul 06 23:53
MinceRjust the thing your business needsJul 06 23:53
MinceRi wonder how many staging cycles can m$ do with hv before they're told to piss off permanentlyJul 06 23:54
MinceRobviously paying gregkh increases their chances, but how much?Jul 06 23:55
DaemonFChe's in a bizarre situationJul 06 23:55
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Representatives Mike Michaud and Chellie Pingree of Maine voted against HR1207 Audit The Fed Bill http://ur1.ca/0hxfd #pdfJul 06 23:55
DaemonFChe can't merge defective drivers but he can't leave broken drivers in staging foreverJul 06 23:55
DaemonFCand Microsoft is keeping the drivers in limboJul 06 23:56
DaemonFCbecause they really don't want to support Linux but have to make it appear that you have options thereJul 06 23:56
DaemonFCB-)Jul 06 23:56
MinceRthat's easy to solveJul 06 23:56
MinceR1) remove the driversJul 06 23:56
MinceR2) tell m$ to fuck off, permanentlyJul 06 23:56
MinceR3) ???Jul 06 23:56
MinceR4) Profit!Jul 06 23:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android and #GNU #Linux on HD2 (With Touchscreen) http://techrights.org/2010/07/01/ubuntu-on-the-hd2/ #ubuntu #playoggJul 06 23:57
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