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schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/DAhFD/ | Jul 07 00:18 |
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schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/Kh4Qc/ | Jul 07 00:40 |
Techrights | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Dog vs. Vuvuzela - Dog Wins .::. Size~: 5.02 KB | Jul 07 00:40 |
cubezzz | got xrubik compiled and working on the 486 box :) | Jul 07 00:41 |
Diablo-D3 | SOMEONE SAID VUVUZELA | Jul 07 00:52 |
Diablo-D3 | I KNOW THEY DID | Jul 07 00:52 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Recently I went on Oracle TechCast with Oracle's VP of Corporate Architecture to talk about #mysql and community - http://is.gd/dbZo5 | Jul 07 01:22 | |
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DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine | Jul 07 01:32 |
Techrights | Title: Castle doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 88.47 KB | Jul 07 01:32 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 07 01:32 |
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DaemonFC | http://redensign.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/castle-law-stand-your-ground-2/ | Jul 07 01:36 |
Techrights | Title: Castle Doctrine & Stand Your Ground « Red Ensign .::. Size~: 29.23 KB | Jul 07 01:36 |
DaemonFC | In Indiana, there is no duty to retreat from an attacker before use of force in self-defense is deemed reasonable | Jul 07 01:37 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 01:37 |
DaemonFC | The attacker can consider himself warned that committing an illegal act against you could get him killed | Jul 07 01:38 |
DaemonFC | We call this, common sense | Jul 07 01:38 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 07 01:38 |
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DaemonFC | "Unfortunately in Canada we don’t have that luxury. To the best of my knowledge, no Canadian province has either Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground. Furthermore, Canadians have no property rights. Add to that the notion that self-defence in this nation is excessively vague. Under Section 7 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the Canadian constitution, Canadians have the right “life, liberty and security of the person.” Self-defence is no | Jul 07 01:39 |
DaemonFC | t explicitly stated as a right. | Jul 07 01:39 |
DaemonFC | This has resulted in numerous cases of law-abiding citizens defending themselves or their properties and facing criminal charges as a result." | Jul 07 01:39 |
DaemonFC | remind me not to go to Canada | Jul 07 01:39 |
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DaemonFC | "David Chen, who was arrested and had 4 criminal charges laid against him for apprehending a career shoplifter. The police even made a plea bargain deal with the shoplifter so they could use him as a witness against Mr. Chen." | Jul 07 01:40 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Jul 07 01:40 |
DaemonFC | In Canada, the police have the attacker testify at the victim's trial | Jul 07 01:41 |
cubezzz | yeah I heard about that | Jul 07 01:41 |
cubezzz | pretty twisted | Jul 07 01:41 |
DaemonFC | that's backwards | Jul 07 01:41 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, You have no right to defend yourself even when being murdered is the only outcome and there is no chance at all of escape? | Jul 07 01:43 |
DaemonFC | That's pretty messed up | Jul 07 01:43 |
DaemonFC | you should flee to the United States and claim asylum from malicious prosecution | Jul 07 01:44 |
DaemonFC | lol | Jul 07 01:44 |
cubezzz | I've never been attacked | Jul 07 01:44 |
DaemonFC | well if you are, kill the bastard then run for the US border | Jul 07 01:44 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jul 07 01:44 |
DaemonFC | At least there's a sane judge every once in a while in Canada | Jul 07 01:46 |
DaemonFC | you could cross your fingers and hope they're merciful towards your will to live | Jul 07 01:46 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 01:46 |
DaemonFC | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2008/06/13/qc-parasiris0613.html | Jul 07 01:47 |
DaemonFC | lol | Jul 07 01:47 |
Techrights | Title: CBC News - Montreal - Quebec man acquitted in police officer slaying .::. Size~: 32.68 KB | Jul 07 01:47 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar41/ch3.html | Jul 07 01:56 |
DaemonFC | IC 35-41-3-2 ftw | Jul 07 01:56 |
DaemonFC | "For purposes of this subsection, an aircraft is considered to be in flight while the aircraft is: | Jul 07 01:58 |
DaemonFC | (1) on the ground in Indiana:" | Jul 07 01:58 |
DaemonFC | hmmmmm | Jul 07 01:58 |
DaemonFC | interesting | Jul 07 01:59 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, says I would also have the right to use reasonable force to effect a citizen's arrest due to a felony | Jul 07 02:00 |
DaemonFC | and I'm immune from a later civil lawsuit for that as well | Jul 07 02:00 |
DaemonFC | Nobody hijacks an in-flight plane that's on the ground in Indiana on my watch! | Jul 07 02:03 |
DaemonFC | Take this, and that, and one of those!!!! | Jul 07 02:03 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 02:03 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, We really don't screw around | Jul 07 02:06 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 02:06 |
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DaemonFC | whoa, nice | Jul 07 02:34 |
*DaemonFC just crashed Chromium, the entire browser :) | Jul 07 02:34 | |
DaemonFC | http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-alpha-2-released.html | Jul 07 02:39 |
Techrights | Title: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Alpha 2 Released .::. Size~: 47.88 KB | Jul 07 02:39 |
DaemonFC | BtrFS is now an option | Jul 07 02:39 |
DaemonFC | the performance with compression enabled looks totally wicked under most workloads | Jul 07 02:39 |
DaemonFC | though I've not attempted to use BtrFS in a while | Jul 07 02:40 |
DaemonFC | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening | Jul 07 02:43 |
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DaemonFC | "As Linux grows in popularity, it will become a growing target for malware." | Jul 07 02:44 |
DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gBqNO6Pkz2nduqexciT09DcZkfzgD9GMJN980 | Jul 07 03:18 |
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DaemonFC | "Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday ordered about 200,000 state workers to be paid the federal minimum wage this month because the state Legislature has not passed a budget." | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | have fun on $7.25 an hour..... | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | look at it this way, it's not like that qualifies them for food stamps and subsidized rent....oh wait... | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 03:18 |
DaemonFC | well, they're state workers | Jul 07 03:20 |
DaemonFC | they can expedite their own claims I'm sure | Jul 07 03:20 |
DaemonFC | they won't have to wait 90 days to eat | Jul 07 03:20 |
DaemonFC | "Workers will be paid in full retroactively once a budget is passed." | Jul 07 03:21 |
DaemonFC | which means they get paid in full and qualify for food stamps now | Jul 07 03:21 |
DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hLKyB9H7lUpiALFVlU7RRJa9-EfwD9GMIFK81 | Jul 07 03:22 |
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DaemonFC | Celebrate Independence Day with your independence from jobless benefits | Jul 07 03:23 |
DaemonFC | now run along you little scamps! | Jul 07 03:23 |
DaemonFC | :D | Jul 07 03:23 |
DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2dShCL4rSk | Jul 07 03:27 |
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DaemonFC | nice | Jul 07 03:27 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @9600: Hoping that IBM's shift to using Firefox will set a precedent for other global organisations. | Jul 07 03:31 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[openuniverse/@openuniverse] today i watched mr. wizard demonstrate the strange properties of a site called !techrights, which myste http://280.status.net/notice/197643 | Jul 07 04:00 | |
Techrights | Title: حالة menn (openuniverse) في يوم Friday, 02-Jul-10 02:55:35 UTC - 280 .::. Size~: 7.89 KB | Jul 07 04:00 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Everytime an ad for the Linux-powered Droid appears on TV, a chair is thrown somewhere in Redmond :-) | Jul 07 05:42 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] I have been seeing lotso TV ads for the Linux-powered Droid X. That = lotso thrown chairs in Redmond :-D | Jul 07 05:46 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "There is no law against daydreaming, but science must not indulge in it." ~Pierre-Paul Grassé | Jul 07 07:06 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] http://is.gd/dciuQ #openstandards in germany? | Jul 07 07:15 | |
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schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/197643 "today i watched mr. wizard demonstrate the strange properties of a site called !techrights, which mysteriously gathers all the people i want to know on one end, and the idiots i wish i'd never spoken to at the other- truly amazing" | Jul 07 07:42 |
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schestowitz | Who would the latter b? | Jul 07 07:42 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/38915912#notice-39187870 " Not because of what you wrote, but because of a fellow who works for this company... Sad." | Jul 07 07:43 |
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DaemonFC | http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20009358-12.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody | Jul 07 07:45 |
Techrights | Title: AVG joins Opera on stage | The Download Blog - Download.com .::. Size~: 94.03 KB | Jul 07 07:45 |
DaemonFC | oh my god | Jul 07 07:45 |
DaemonFC | please | Jul 07 07:45 |
DaemonFC | no | Jul 07 07:45 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Jul 07 07:45 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] World's Largest Oil Skimmer Arrives in Gulf of Mexico http://ur1.ca/0iann | Jul 07 07:45 | |
Techrights | Title: BP Oil Spill: Super Skimmer A Whale Promises to Help Cleanup Efforts - ABC News .::. Size~: 67.84 KB | Jul 07 07:45 |
schestowitz | I've just gotten a very long E-mail from a Microsoft VP | Jul 07 07:49 |
schestowitz | One who worked with Gates | Jul 07 07:49 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Have fun with the libel lawsuit | Jul 07 07:49 |
DaemonFC | someone found out you're in the UK | Jul 07 07:50 |
schestowitz | Hehe, no :-) | Jul 07 07:50 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jul 07 07:50 |
schestowitz | It's actually a polite mail | Jul 07 07:50 |
DaemonFC | It's a trap | Jul 07 07:50 |
schestowitz | From someone who left Microdoft | Jul 07 07:50 |
schestowitz | Cause Gates didn\t fund him after 28 years in the company | Jul 07 07:50 |
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schestowitz | "Would you mind if I added your clarification to the post? I really did think there was a correlation between the slowdown in funding and continued inability to make impact in robotics -- all of which partly contributed to your departure." | Jul 07 07:54 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pre-Alpha of #MeeGo ( #GNU #Linux ) on #Tablets http://techrights.org/2010/07/02/pre-alpha-of-meego/ | Jul 07 08:03 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @udovetter Jürgen Rüttgers will auf Jahre Sekretärin und Dienstwagen für lau behalten. Er scheint sich für schwer vermittelbar zu halten. | Jul 07 08:05 | |
schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/LFPiA/ | Jul 07 08:15 |
Techrights | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: The Prodigy - Omen .::. Size~: 5 KB | Jul 07 08:15 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless." ~Prof. Bounoure | Jul 07 08:18 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Woman Jailed 2 Days for Filming Movie Screen Sues Theater - http://bit.ly/93ooiX the problem with incentives #mpaa | Jul 07 08:21 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Firefox Reaches 2 Billion Add-Ons Downloaded - http://bit.ly/bYDiYo nice number #firefox #addons | Jul 07 08:21 | |
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MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ST-QHGIhE | Jul 07 08:23 |
Techrights | Title: YouTube- The Art of Analog Computing by meltmedia .::. Size~: 89.5 KB | Jul 07 08:23 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Group chat via phpWebsocket http://post.ly/lWzJ (from Freedom Lab) #websocket #groupchat (1 to multiple client chat) #web #js #html5 | Jul 07 08:26 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Apple Sued (Class Action) for Producing a Defective #hypePhone 4 http://ur1.ca/0ibtt #toyota #android #kin | Jul 07 08:39 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Woman Jailed 2 Days for Filming Movie Screen Sues Theater - http://bit.ly/93ooiX > what? No waterboarding? | Jul 07 08:42 | |
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schestowitz | Oh | Jul 07 08:42 |
schestowitz | WTF? | Jul 07 08:42 |
schestowitz | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/10/06/30/2027226/IEEE-Supports-Software-Patents-In-Wake-of-Bilski | Jul 07 08:42 |
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schestowitz | I didn't even realise that we made SLashdot's front page 2 days ag | Jul 07 08:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Oh. I didn't even realise that we made Slashdot's front page 2 days ago. I guess that explains the server load.. thought were were attacked. | Jul 07 08:44 | |
schestowitz | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/IEEE-USA | Jul 07 08:52 |
Techrights | Title: IEEE-USA - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) .::. Size~: 38.32 KB | Jul 07 08:52 |
schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/07/01/208222/Zoho-Dont-Need-No-Stinking-PhD-Programmers | Jul 07 08:53 |
Techrights | Title: Slashdot News Story | Zoho Don't Need No Stinking Ph.D. Programmers .::. Size~: 175.54 KB | Jul 07 08:53 |
schestowitz | "Donald Knuth's TeX successor will be named iTeX. #TUG2010 #PARODY Ring a bell when you say the name." http://twitter.com/christopheradam/status/17453998408 | Jul 07 08:54 |
Techrights | Title: Twitter / Christopher Adams: Donald Knuth's TeX success ... .::. Size~: 11.5 KB | Jul 07 08:54 |
schestowitz | Slashdot looks stupid now | Jul 07 08:57 |
schestowitz | They say there would be a major announcement on Wednesday | Jul 07 08:57 |
schestowitz | Then waste another slot saying it was just a parody | Jul 07 08:57 |
DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/Linspire-Inc-CSXXXRESXOOOFF-Five-0-Edition/dp/B0007XYRUY/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1278057789&sr=1-23 | Jul 07 09:07 |
Techrights | Title: Amazon.com: Linspire Five.0 CNR Edition: Software .::. Size~: 340.04 KB | Jul 07 09:07 |
*DaemonFC buys one for schestowitz | Jul 07 09:07 | |
schestowitz | It still exists | Jul 07 09:07 |
schestowitz | ? | Jul 07 09:07 |
schestowitz | I think Xandros is dead too | Jul 07 09:07 |
DaemonFC | Amazon has the damndest things in stock | Jul 07 09:08 |
schestowitz | "Work with Nvu, a full Web authoring solution" | Jul 07 09:08 |
DaemonFC | Linspire has been dead and cold for a while | Jul 07 09:08 |
schestowitz | Nvu is long dead as a project | Jul 07 09:08 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: 2 years since it got bought | Jul 07 09:08 |
schestowitz | I remember cause it was right before Independence Day 2008 | Jul 07 09:09 |
schestowitz | When I started working from my apartment | Jul 07 09:09 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, What I don't get though | Jul 07 09:09 |
schestowitz | :-D | Jul 07 09:09 |
DaemonFC | speaking of WYSIWYG editors | Jul 07 09:09 |
schestowitz | Prior to this I was at the office all day | Jul 07 09:09 |
DaemonFC | is why Apple iWeb invokes IE 7 mode in IE 8 | Jul 07 09:09 |
DaemonFC | there's nothing in the pages it spits out that IE 8 can't render as IE 8 | Jul 07 09:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/ascap-assails-free-culture-digital-rights-groups/ | Jul 07 09:10 |
Techrights | Title: ASCAP Assails Free-Culture, Digital-Rights Groups | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 92.36 KB | Jul 07 09:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Stop the Math Press's Presses — Knuth Announces iTex - http://bit.ly/cHWu9r not quite what I was expecting #tex #knuth | Jul 07 09:11 | |
Techrights | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Stop the Math Press's Presses — Knuth Announces iTex .::. Size~: 148.83 KB | Jul 07 09:11 |
*schestowitz adds Linspire Five.0 CNR Edition to his "wishlist" | Jul 07 09:11 | |
DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoffeeCup_HTML_Editor | Jul 07 09:12 |
Techrights | Title: CoffeeCup HTML Editor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 23.57 KB | Jul 07 09:12 |
DaemonFC | apparently they still exist | Jul 07 09:12 |
DaemonFC | I remember using that around 1998 | Jul 07 09:12 |
DaemonFC | got a freeware edition copy in a magazine | Jul 07 09:12 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 07 09:13 |
DaemonFC | http://www.coffeecup.com/html-editor/ | Jul 07 09:13 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] TV Show Released On BitTorrent Raises $20,000 Pretty Damn Fast - http://bit.ly/bc9QLn "the scarcities are the creation of more episodes" | Jul 07 09:14 | |
Techrights | Title: TV Show Released On BitTorrent Raises $20,000 Pretty Damn Fast | Techdirt .::. Size~: 72.95 KB | Jul 07 09:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @xxtjaxx is happy about his #FSF Mail thanks! http://ur1.ca/0hq76 | Jul 07 09:16 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #fsf has a nice new homepage http://fsf.org | Jul 07 09:17 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/06/best-accessory-for-iphone-4-reception.html | Jul 07 09:17 |
Techrights | Title: The best accessory for iPhone 4 reception problem | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 66.31 KB | Jul 07 09:17 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Jul 07 09:18 |
DaemonFC | ExpressionWeb SuperPreview! | Jul 07 09:18 |
DaemonFC | supports Windows and Macintosh browsers! | Jul 07 09:18 |
DaemonFC | (IE, Firefox, and Safari) | Jul 07 09:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] “Twilight” 8-Bit Viral Hit Comes Back to Life After DMCA Takedown - http://bit.ly/a8tJEw "game was not detrimental to Twilight franchise" | Jul 07 09:20 | |
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DaemonFC | Isn't it easier to hand out a sign that says "BEAT IT!" than to bother supporting IE 6? | Jul 07 09:20 |
DaemonFC | *hang out | Jul 07 09:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Firefox Main Window Study: A Heatmap Visualization - http://bit.ly/c0LoRL really cool user interface research #firefox4 #ux | Jul 07 09:21 | |
Techrights | Title: Firefox Main Window Study: A Heatmap Visualization « Blog of Metrics .::. Size~: 35.89 KB | Jul 07 09:21 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Google Makes Its Travel Search Move: Buys ITA Software For $700 Million - http://bit.ly/aW2KwN in order to build new “flight search tools” | Jul 07 09:23 | |
Techrights | Title: Google Makes Its Travel Search Move: Buys ITA Software For $700 Million| paidContent .::. Size~: 32.02 KB | Jul 07 09:23 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Lying in a hospital bed, waiting for the minor back procedure I was supposed to have an hour ago to start. Anxiety building. | Jul 07 09:31 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Mandriva Mystery Investors are Mysterious | Jul 07 09:32 |
DaemonFC | :P | Jul 07 09:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Should We Increase Use of Multimedia Objects in Techrights? http://ur1.ca/0id3r #Techrights #poll #playogg | Jul 07 09:34 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should We Increase Use of Multimedia Objects in Techrights? http://ur1.ca/0id3r !Techrights #poll #playogg | Jul 07 09:35 | |
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schestowitz | Huh? http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/06/adobe-flash-best-platform-so-far.html | Jul 07 09:36 |
Techrights | Title: Adobe Flash- The best platform so far | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 71.24 KB | Jul 07 09:36 |
DaemonFC | ehhhh | Jul 07 09:37 |
DaemonFC | hmmmm, Jabba is biting me | Jul 07 09:37 |
*DaemonFC goes to check what's wrong | Jul 07 09:37 | |
DaemonFC | and good time to take a nap :P | Jul 07 09:38 |
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schestowitz | Google gets too much power with air travel... | Jul 07 09:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @doctorow good luck with that | Jul 07 09:41 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Another Journalist Seduced By App Madness Predicts The End Of The Web - http://bit.ly/doAwqE debunking the "original sin of free" meme | Jul 07 09:42 | |
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schestowitz | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/07/interoperability-significant-market.html | Jul 07 09:43 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In 3 new posts, Florian promotes regulation... against Microsoft's competitors. I find that a tad suspicious. #interop is _NOT_ standards | Jul 07 09:44 | |
MinceR | geekings | Jul 07 09:55 |
schestowitz | "Maybe #MeeGo won't be that bad after all (despite using #rpm not #deb ) ♻ @schestowitz: Pre-Alpha of #MeeGo on #Tablets http://ur1.ca/0icej " http://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=cyberkiller&inreplyto=39245123 | Jul 07 10:02 |
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schestowitz | MeeGo looks good | Jul 07 10:03 |
schestowitz | Nokia will put it on millions of phones, maybe tablets too | Jul 07 10:03 |
schestowitz | I'm gonna start posting more videos. Seems like the poll shows consent and solicits support: http://280.status.net/notice/198460 "@schestowitz only if they're theora or webm- in which case yes, 1 every day, if possible- promoting theora and webm (might want to wait for ff4 for webm)" | Jul 07 10:06 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Bolzano, please don't waste your money - http://bit.ly/bU7ZJs FSFE's open letter #bolzano #italy | Jul 07 10:14 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Google Adds Real-Time Stats To Blogger – Why Not To Google Analytics? - http://tcrn.ch/c8fTiS handy #google #blogger #analytics | Jul 07 10:23 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Tube Data Suspended Due To 'Overwhelming Demand' - http://bit.ly/dsOrbO people are hungry for real-time data #tube #opendata | Jul 07 10:24 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament - http://bit.ly/9Z07hU cunning #piratebay #sweden | Jul 07 10:25 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Even sedated telly is utter shit. No wonder it's failing. Can't we use this spectrum for something better? | Jul 07 10:28 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What a Headache! [IMG] http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-headache.html | Jul 07 10:29 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Surgery went fine. Recovering with crappy TV. Looking forward to eating! | Jul 07 10:30 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Bam bam bam bam bam bam bam Nam bam bam I wanna be sedated | Jul 07 10:35 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Srsly. Who greenlit this toss? 20 channels and the best thing on is fucking Everybody Loves Raymond? This is worse than surgery | Jul 07 10:44 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] As Christ said after rising from the dead, 'Man, I'm hungry enough to eat the ass out of a diseased bear' #nilbymouth | Jul 07 10:49 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Gosh darn electricity! How does it work? http://is.gd/dcuFD this is the "science" that christian "universities" actually teach. | Jul 07 10:54 | |
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schestowitz | http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/research-in-motion-rimm/413983 | Jul 07 11:00 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Time for some Digital Economy Act Economy - http://bit.ly/d3U3r9 if we want to repeal #DEAct, we need to work together #freedom | Jul 07 11:01 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] SCOTUS said State Street approach too permissive but MoT as sole test far too restrictive without legislation. #Swpat thus very safe. | Jul 07 11:02 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google has just changed its News redirect to require JavaScript (for more spying) | Jul 07 11:13 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The open spending data that isn’t… this is not good - http://bit.ly/9swwin time to kick up a *big* fuss, people... #ogov #uk | Jul 07 11:15 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Reclusive mathematician turns down $1 million prize - http://bit.ly/bHL1Go walks like RMS, quacks like RMS...what a fine chap #maths | Jul 02 11:29 | |
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schestowitz | Google is acting up | Jul 02 11:55 |
schestowitz | And YouTube UK didn't serve many videos yesterday | Jul 02 11:55 |
schestowitz | "error' | Jul 02 11:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Back at the office. Loving the painkillers. Numbest butt of my life. | Jul 02 12:07 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @techdirt: Dutch Court Questioning Why Police Outsourced File Sharing Evidence Collection To Industry Group http://dlvr.it/2DrT5 | Jul 02 12:54 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] An (Analogue) Artist's Reply to Just Criticism - http://bit.ly/dDoPQF why abundance changes the equation #copyright #rights | Jul 02 13:03 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2JmSK3H8tI | Jul 02 13:03 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Straight Dope on Police at the G20 Summit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2JmSK3H8tI chilling. | Jul 02 13:07 | |
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schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU3lwyDdHd0 | Jul 02 13:22 |
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schestowitz | Florida too has oil in the beach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwsCHd7Lcg | Jul 02 13:29 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikimedia blog: Link pile. http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2010/07/02/link-pile-3/ | Jul 02 13:41 | |
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schestowitz | Oh crap | Jul 02 13:54 |
schestowitz | PS - I botched system time while recalibrating yesterday, so messages I sent earlier appear as coming on the 7th. | Jul 02 13:54 |
schestowitz | The IRC logs show 6th and 7th of July | Jul 02 13:54 |
schestowitz | Florian finds another non-Microsoft company to blame | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | He has just mailed me this: | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | " | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | This hasn't received much attention because Stallman said it at an event in Málaga, Spain, two weeks ago. He clearly said Apple is "more malicious and much more restrictive" than Microsoft, according to the report below. I hope he's going to get away with it and not get criticized by you :-) | Jul 02 13:56 |
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schestowitz | http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/06/22/andalucia_malaga/1277232759.html | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | Jul 02 13:56 | |
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schestowitz | Stallman, que ofreció ayer una charla en La Casa Invisible de Málaga [...] | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | Jul 02 13:56 | |
schestowitz | «Apple es más malévola y mucho más restrictiva que Microsoft, ya que limita incluso el derecho de ejecutar aplicaciones», sostiene el fundador de GNU. «Apple crea esposas digitales, hace creer a la gente que es 'cool' por tener sus productos y realiza juegos de marketing para que no parezca malo lo que hace», añade. | Jul 02 13:56 |
schestowitz | " | Jul 02 13:56 |
MinceR | we're lucky we only need to be wary of the most malicious company...oh, wait | Jul 02 14:01 |
cubezzz | I don't think Apple is as big a problem | Jul 02 14:05 |
cubezzz | it's bad though, the two main choices at the stores and its all closed source | Jul 02 14:06 |
MinceR | only as long as they keep failing | Jul 02 14:06 |
MinceR | if they were to successfully step into the place of m$ (though i doubt they can pull it off), they'd be a major threat to freedom | Jul 02 14:06 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: agreed | Jul 02 14:06 |
MinceR | they're a threat to freedom nevertheless | Jul 02 14:06 |
schestowitz | We need to change rules | Jul 02 14:07 |
schestowitz | And norms | Jul 02 14:07 |
schestowitz | End software patents, reuse work | Jul 02 14:07 |
schestowitz | If we already have apache and lighttpd and stuff, we don't need to go back to having 20 proprietary Web servers or whatever made from scratch independently | Jul 02 14:07 |
schestowitz | It's bad for scientific progress | Jul 02 14:07 |
schestowitz | Companies can pile on their own extensions to Free software, which they can fork if they wish | Jul 02 14:08 |
cubezzz | it's OK to reinvent the wheel I think | Jul 02 14:08 |
schestowitz | it's encouraged | Jul 02 14:09 |
schestowitz | But it's not the same as proprietary mindset | Jul 02 14:10 |
schestowitz | Look at upstart, pulseaudio, gnome... | Jul 02 14:10 |
cubezzz | speculation: I think what might happen is two parallel tracks... | Jul 02 14:10 |
cubezzz | the FOSS track and the proprietary track | Jul 02 14:11 |
schestowitz | or more | Jul 02 14:11 |
schestowitz | No, the proprietary track is not working with others | Jul 02 14:11 |
schestowitz | FireWire, iTooons | Jul 02 14:11 |
cubezzz | yes, so parallel :) | Jul 02 14:11 |
cubezzz | not interacting | Jul 02 14:11 |
cubezzz | really how can proprietary work with FOSS? | Jul 02 14:12 |
cubezzz | it can only try to absorb it into itself | Jul 02 14:12 |
cubezzz | the hardware manufacturers have the real power | Jul 02 14:13 |
cubezzz | in effect, the FOSS/Proprietary choice may be taken away | Jul 02 14:14 |
cubezzz | then you're back in reverse-engineering land | Jul 02 14:14 |
cubezzz | you could have FOSS for PDP-11 | Jul 02 14:15 |
cubezzz | then then last PDP-11 dies | Jul 02 14:15 |
cubezzz | you're stuck again | Jul 02 14:15 |
cubezzz | tell me what the chip does / NO, we signed an NDA | Jul 02 14:16 |
cubezzz | I saw it happen right in front of my eyes | Jul 02 14:17 |
cubezzz | you could try to build your own hardware... | Jul 02 14:17 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Really like the Free! Music! Contest. Promoting Creative Commons contest this way is a very good idea! http://is.gd/dczTz #fmc10 #ccmusic | Jul 02 14:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] From 1982, it really was Ratzinger's job to deal with child-raping priests. And he just didn't. http://is.gd/dcGuQ Smoking gun. | Jul 02 14:30 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @BoingBoing: Canadian copyright astroturfers own up: front for US labels http://bit.ly/b1LScR | Jul 02 14:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Raincoats "Moving" (1982) is well-played, well-produced and very dull. Single "Animal Rhapsody" is the barest sign of life. | Jul 02 14:41 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mind_booster: "Pirate Party: We will host The Pirate Bay inside the Swedish parliament | Piratpartiet" http://ff.im/n4E90 | Jul 02 14:42 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] The July issue of the free (gratis) BSD magazine is available for download [PDF]. This month: OpenBSD http://tinyurl.com/32z2cjk | Jul 02 15:00 | |
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schestowitz | [14:12] <cubezzz> it can only try to absorb it into itself | Jul 02 15:00 |
schestowitz | Exactrly | Jul 02 15:00 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Wondering how this will affect some braindead WUI they have... ♺ @slashdot: IBM Makes Firefox Its Corporate Browser http://bit.ly/amQJQR | Jul 02 15:01 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] DailyTech story on #EU #interoperability initiative - timing and content suggest inspiration by slashdot http://bit.ly/9zsZC2 | Jul 02 15:20 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Most recent gag list entry in #elmdentica is #bra([sz]il)? (yes, PCRE is supported!) | Jul 02 15:21 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Freedom Defenders Look at the Glass Half Full in the #Bilski Aftermath http://ur1.ca/0ipld #patent #swpats | Jul 02 15:23 | |
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Ziomatrix | And the hits just keep on coming, T-Mobile discontinues selling the Sidekick starting today: http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=6252 | Jul 02 15:32 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ding-dong, @fosspatents , Microsoft too neglects interoperability. | Jul 02 15:39 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Sidekick is being kicked by a major distributor http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=6252 that f'KIN device | Jul 02 15:40 | |
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Ziomatrix | schestowitz: at least the Sidekick had a good running life, but thats no thanks to MS's piss poor way of running its cloud but more to do with continuing to use Danger's software and OS as well as formfactor which was perfected. | Jul 02 15:41 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: in fact I think more phones now should start using that Sidekick form factor as it worked really nicely with the QWERTY | Jul 02 15:42 |
MinceR | i'd prefer monoblock with qwerty | Jul 02 15:44 |
MinceR | (less moving parts to break; less moving parts to fuss with when using the device on the go) | Jul 02 15:45 |
MinceR | but devices with that form factor tend to lack touchscreens | Jul 02 15:45 |
Ziomatrix | MinceR: not really as the Palm Pre and Samsung Epic 4G show | Jul 02 15:48 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #Microsoft MVP who is also a vice president at #Novell says what he would do if he was in charge of #Vista8 http://ur1.ca/0ir7f | Jul 02 15:50 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Busy with upgrades, legal issues, releases, fundraising, etc. Help us with opportunistic critics at this time. | Jul 02 15:54 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @karsten: Summary of this week's #ACTA negotiations http://ur1.ca/0ir6l Text secret again, things still look very bad #fsfe | Jul 02 15:56 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/39030029#notice-39293435 "@schestowitz: Aye..only in Canada would you see a baton charge by police on cycles..and maybe Holland too." | Jul 02 15:58 |
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schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yeah, let me quote you on that | Jul 02 15:58 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: on which, about the Sidekick being phased out or smartphones such as the Samsung Epic and Palm Pre using a combo of physical QWERTY and touchscreen? | Jul 02 16:00 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @techdirt: Woman Sues Theater For Pressing Charges Over Filming Twilight Snippets At Birthday Party http://dlvr.it/2F4lz | Jul 02 16:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @bkuhn: I found their @joindiaspora 's use of #Flash #disturbing. Even worse to now learn it contradicts their own assurances. | Jul 02 16:06 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rumour: #Microsoft Executives-Run Company to Buy #Novell http://ur1.ca/0irz8 #vmare #redhat #gnu #linux | Jul 02 16:07 | |
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schestowitz | Received: (qmail 28653 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2010 05:20:23 +0100 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Received: from wsip-70-182-9-94.lf.br.cox.net (HELO User) (70.182.9.94) | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | by anglican-mainstream.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2010 05:20:22 +0100 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Reply-To: < CBS@News.com> | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | From: " CBS@News.com"< CBS@News.com> | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Subject: Eminem , Marshall Mathers is DEAD !!!! | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:23:07 -0500 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Content-Type: text/html; | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | charset="Windows-1251" | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | X-Priority: 3 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | ^^^^^^^ just got this spam | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | "Eminem , Marshall Mathers is DEAD !!!! " | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jul 02 16:26 |
schestowitz | Ziomatrix: nothing in particular regarding the phone | Jul 02 16:27 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: isn't Eminem being dead a viral urban myth? | Jul 02 16:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] sorry @fabsh; -) | Jul 02 16:30 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 18 Things I Wish Someone Told Me When I Was 18 - http://bit.ly/aiEo6r | Jul 02 16:40 | |
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MinceR | Ziomatrix: the palm pre is not monoblock | Jul 02 16:46 |
MinceR | dunno about the samsung epic 4g | Jul 02 16:46 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] T-Mobile is finally dumping Microsoft's #Sidekick and Apple's problems receive scrutiny from @Ghabuntu http://ur1.ca/0iua8 | Jul 02 16:48 | |
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Ziomatrix | MinceR: I meant it wasn't a monoblock | Jul 02 16:52 |
MinceR | oh. | Jul 02 16:52 |
MinceR | so? | Jul 02 16:52 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] So, who won in the #NED vs #BRA match? | Jul 02 16:55 | |
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Ziomatrix | what do you think of Apple's latest attempt at fuzzy math to elevate the iPhone 4 reception issue? http://tinyurl.com/2vxso9e | Jul 02 17:03 |
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schestowitz | Bolzano streets | Jul 02 17:06 |
schestowitz |  | Jul 02 17:06 |
schestowitz | [16:28] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: isn't Eminem being dead a viral urban myth? | Jul 02 17:06 |
schestowitz | Elvis? | Jul 02 17:06 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: then he must be pulling a Tupac | Jul 02 17:07 |
schestowitz | I was gonna say 2pac | Jul 02 17:07 |
schestowitz | But i thought you might not know him | Jul 02 17:07 |
schestowitz | Notorious BIG got shot too | Jul 02 17:07 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: what I mean is that there are still new ablums released by Tupac from all his studio rehearsals and recordings. | Jul 02 17:09 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: some say that the amount is so much that he maybe still alive producing music and releasing it under his estate. | Jul 02 17:09 |
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sebsebseb | Hi | Jul 02 17:28 |
MinceR | hay | Jul 02 17:29 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Hey | Jul 02 17:29 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Under Pressure in #Europe http://techrights.org/2010/07/02/bolzano-and-browser-choice-ballot/ | Jul 02 17:43 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @bkuhn: I actually like marriage very much & am married, but I think in general case, doesn't necessarily keep couples together more. | Jul 02 17:45 | |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I guess you didn't quote me, I allow it though for future reference. It would be an honor to have my words tagged all over the interwebz :P | Jul 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | [17:09] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: what I mean is that there are still new ablums released by Tupac from all his studio rehearsals and recordings. | Jul 02 17:53 |
schestowitz | There's a recent one aired this year | Jul 02 17:53 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: that man must have made an a song at least within a business week for his entire life. | Jul 02 17:54 |
schestowitz | Maybe they should just get a synthed (voice synthesis) voice of him, then have it echo some trash talk | Jul 02 17:54 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I wonder if they will do synthesized voices in the future for celebs long gone? They already did holograms | Jul 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | They can add/remaster the samples later | Jul 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | The rapper's channel in the recording can be added to a load of stuff | Jul 02 17:55 |
schestowitz | Some of them just use his voice for voiceover | Jul 02 17:55 |
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schestowitz | So they essentially ride his 'brand name' | Jul 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | [17:55] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: I wonder if they will do synthesized voices in the future for celebs long gone? They already did holograms | Jul 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | We have enough humans already | Jul 02 17:56 |
schestowitz | It's better to CAD some new creatures and make renditions of stuff we don't see around; people are 99.9% identical | Jul 02 17:57 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FUD Watch: #OpenLogic Survey Shows Enterprises Should be Afraid of #GPL http://ur1.ca/0iw8l #gnu #fsf | Jul 02 17:57 | |
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Ziomatrix | schestowitz: so many artists would disagree with your comment | Jul 02 17:57 |
schestowitz | DNA agrees with the latter part | Jul 02 17:57 |
schestowitz | But people like seeing other people. It's in their DNA. They get attached to group leaders | Jul 02 17:58 |
schestowitz | That's how all apes survive | Jul 02 17:58 |
schestowitz | Compassion too | Jul 02 17:58 |
schestowitz | Those who are not revering some peer figure are left to themselves to starve and go extinct | Jul 02 17:58 |
schestowitz | But anyway, take someone like Justice Stevens | Jul 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | Many lawyers look up to those people as though being a legal professional makes one a role model | Jul 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | And people like Knuth too develop perceived 'brand value' | Jul 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | Academia doesn't like that type of cultre | Jul 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | Show biz does | Jul 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | Take for example the way Carl Sagan's peers took him for his sensationalism of alien life | Jul 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | Or how BillG promotes his investments by monopolising | Jul 02 18:01 |
schestowitz | Tupac is a brand | Jul 02 18:01 |
schestowitz | He was in some films, e.g. with Janet Jackson (who would be nobody if she wasn't tied to Jackson 5/Michael Jackson) | Jul 02 18:01 |
schestowitz | People assess opinions and products based on brands/reputation, not for what they actually are (the latter gets less of an opportunity of exposure, same in blogs) | Jul 02 18:02 |
schestowitz | http://www.ktvu.com/news/24118174/detail.html | Jul 02 18:03 |
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schestowitz | Famous killer | Jul 02 18:03 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you say "Academia" doesn't like this kind of showboating, but then how can you explain String Theory for being proclaimed the end all be all of deciphering the universe? | Jul 02 18:03 |
schestowitz | Not by some people | Jul 02 18:04 |
schestowitz | Neil Tyson says he lost patience with them | Jul 02 18:04 |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I don't mean literally but it was just a theory, yet many professors lauded it and have done research, such as early Quantum computers which had to be isolated in a vacum in order to be able to function and compute the most rudimentary code. | Jul 02 18:05 |
squarepeg | Ziomatrix: I agree, re: String Theory | Jul 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | Ziomatrix: But maybe it'll materialise one day | Jul 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | At least they put the theoretical framework in place and file it under journals | Jul 02 18:08 |
Ziomatrix | squarepeg: at least now they're introducing other possible theories into the discussion and even having some collaborations. | Jul 02 18:08 |
schestowitz | They can't communicate it with the public | Jul 02 18:08 |
schestowitz | There's a BBC program about it | Jul 02 18:08 |
schestowitz | Maybe they need more educator types | Jul 02 18:09 |
schestowitz | And Feynman just says, "if you think you understand quantum physics, then you don't understand quantum physics" | Jul 02 18:09 |
squarepeg | They should just admit when it gets to be so abstract, any representation of these phenomena for human consideration is going to remain mostly hypothetical, sometimes it can justifiably be called "theory". | Jul 02 18:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Had a rocking jam with Ben last night, looking forward to getting together with Ben and Jim on Sat :-) #severedfifth | Jul 02 18:10 | |
Ziomatrix | schestowitz: certain true, but at one time with String Theory its supporters claimed it could be completely understandable with only some minor anomalies | Jul 02 18:11 |
squarepeg | There's a lot more experimentation to be done to nail things down. Things must be verified with different methods, because there's the likelihood that standard methods of experimentation will support a consistent misunderstanding, based on consistent results. | Jul 02 18:12 |
squarepeg | with quantum physics there must be different methods employed to verify a single assertion. | Jul 02 18:12 |
schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/world_cup_workers | Jul 02 18:14 |
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schestowitz | squarepeg: gravity is also just a "theory" | Jul 02 18:14 |
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squarepeg | yeah, well it's also directly experienced | Jul 02 18:16 |
squarepeg | not so with the hypothetical entities of string theory | Jul 02 18:16 |
ender2070 | don't bash string theory | Jul 02 18:17 |
squarepeg | String theory is hypothetical, not theoretical | Jul 02 18:17 |
squarepeg | String Hypthesis | Jul 02 18:17 |
squarepeg | String Hype | Jul 02 18:17 |
squarepeg | aw snap | Jul 02 18:18 |
squarepeg | Trust me, I made a hypothesis that black holes emit radiation which is currently undetectable. | Jul 02 18:18 |
squarepeg | I came up with it a year or two I saw the same hypothesis published in Scientific American by a scientist. | Jul 02 18:19 |
squarepeg | I got to the same hypothesis through a kind of shamanism | Jul 02 18:19 |
ender2070 | Steven Hawking | Jul 02 18:19 |
ender2070 | enough said | Jul 02 18:19 |
squarepeg | he's a good science fiction author | Jul 02 18:19 |
ender2070 | shamanism? | Jul 02 18:19 |
squarepeg | kidding | Jul 02 18:19 |
ender2070 | mushrooms or LSD | Jul 02 18:19 |
ender2070 | lol | Jul 02 18:19 |
squarepeg | LSD | Jul 02 18:20 |
squarepeg | and shrooms | Jul 02 18:20 |
ender2070 | that would FUCK you up | Jul 02 18:20 |
ender2070 | lol | Jul 02 18:20 |
squarepeg | and just absorbing a lot of scientific theory from magazines and books | Jul 02 18:20 |
ender2070 | the problem with slashdot | Jul 02 18:20 |
squarepeg | I just decided I didn't buy the wormhole hypothesis | Jul 02 18:20 |
ender2070 | they publish a lot of discoveries and people don't believe it when you tell them about it | Jul 02 18:21 |
squarepeg | and that what goes into a gravity well must be emitting energy as well | Jul 02 18:21 |
ender2070 | I believe they did detect black hole radiation though | Jul 02 18:22 |
squarepeg | detectable forms of energy are obviously not escaping black holes, but that matter it consumes must be manifesting some other way | Jul 02 18:22 |
squarepeg | what, gamma ray bursts or something? | Jul 02 18:22 |
ender2070 | im not sure | Jul 02 18:22 |
ender2070 | i was watching a video on steven hawking at waterloo a few weeks ago | Jul 02 18:22 |
squarepeg | well, whatever. I'm just saying, I didn't buy the wormhole hypothesis, the multiple parallel universe hypothesis, time travel, nor the idea that the Big Bang was the origin of universal creation | Jul 02 18:23 |
ender2070 | he said that information is not lost in a black hole | Jul 02 18:24 |
ender2070 | just gets scrambled or something | Jul 02 18:24 |
ender2070 | its not intelligble to put back together | Jul 02 18:24 |
squarepeg | In that sense, no information is ever lost.. | Jul 02 18:24 |
squarepeg | there are causual relationships between everything | Jul 02 18:25 |
ender2070 | thats what the evidence points to I guess | Jul 02 18:25 |
squarepeg | but now we're getting into the area which concerns the debate between belief in predeterminism and freedom of will | Jul 02 18:25 |
ender2070 | and an area in which we are both not experts | Jul 02 18:26 |
ender2070 | and even experts aren't agreeing | Jul 02 18:26 |
squarepeg | This is where my scientific cult can capture even the most educated minds. | Jul 02 18:26 |
ender2070 | LOL | Jul 02 18:26 |
ender2070 | scientific cult? | Jul 02 18:26 |
ender2070 | ever heard of scientific dictatorship? | Jul 02 18:26 |
squarepeg | yes, I have a cult in which those of weaker faith can become ensnared by their own logic. | Jul 02 18:27 |
ender2070 | yeah thats the premise of the scientific dictatorship | Jul 02 18:27 |
squarepeg | interesting. Never heard of it. | Jul 02 18:27 |
ender2070 | think about it | Jul 02 18:27 |
ender2070 | you indoctrinate people all their lives by putting them through school, you control how they come up with their logic | Jul 02 18:28 |
squarepeg | wait - you were about to slip into an abyss of doubt about your own will | Jul 02 18:28 |
squarepeg | just suppose, if every effect is preceded by a cause, it's as if we're all on rails | Jul 02 18:28 |
squarepeg | it's as if we're all in a statue garden, except with a fourth dimension of change, all of which is preordained | Jul 02 18:29 |
squarepeg | do you think this is possible? | Jul 02 18:29 |
ender2070 | why can't you have predetermination and free will | Jul 02 18:29 |
ender2070 | a mix of both | Jul 02 18:29 |
ender2070 | if you change your mind about something you go down a different predetermined path | Jul 02 18:30 |
squarepeg | use rigid logic, if you don't mind | Jul 02 18:30 |
ender2070 | parallel universes | Jul 02 18:30 |
squarepeg | you don't change your mind, your mind changes due to circumstances beyond your control or comprehension | Jul 02 18:30 |
squarepeg | your mind is like the weather | Jul 02 18:30 |
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squarepeg | predictable with enough computational power | Jul 02 18:31 |
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ender2070 | sorry about that d/c | Jul 02 18:31 |
ender2070 | what was the last thing I said | Jul 02 18:31 |
squarepeg | 17:27 < ender2070> parallel universes | Jul 02 18:31 |
squarepeg | 17:27 < squarepeg> you don't change your mind, your mind changes due to circumstances beyond your control or comprehension | Jul 02 18:31 |
squarepeg | 17:27 < squarepeg> your mind is like the weather | Jul 02 18:31 |
ender2070 | oh ok | Jul 02 18:31 |
squarepeg | I'm just trying to question your hope or confidence in free will | Jul 02 18:32 |
ender2070 | I think its there | Jul 02 18:32 |
squarepeg | I don't remember why I have faith in my own free will | Jul 02 18:32 |
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squarepeg | so I won't be able to help you if you're overcome by despair in the belief in predeterminism | Jul 02 18:33 |
squarepeg | But I can get back to you later. You can keep a little flame of hope alive that I have a coherent answer. | Jul 02 18:33 |
ender2070 | im more a believer in free will | Jul 02 18:33 |
squarepeg | It might not become apparent to me again without some drugs | Jul 02 18:33 |
ender2070 | but i see evidence in *some* predeterminism | Jul 02 18:33 |
ender2070 | i was sharing my own theory | Jul 02 18:34 |
squarepeg | It's clear to me after snorting some coke and k | Jul 02 18:34 |
ender2070 | lol but how does harming your body help? | Jul 02 18:35 |
squarepeg | it's enhancing my mind | Jul 02 18:35 |
ender2070 | how? | Jul 02 18:35 |
squarepeg | you'd have to try to understand | Jul 02 18:35 |
ender2070 | I can see perhaps how mushrooms might | Jul 02 18:35 |
squarepeg | but there's no need | Jul 02 18:35 |
ender2070 | not coke or K | Jul 02 18:35 |
squarepeg | have you tried K? | Jul 02 18:35 |
ender2070 | never | Jul 02 18:36 |
squarepeg | you don't know of its psychedelic effects | Jul 02 18:36 |
ender2070 | its a cat tranquilizer, no thanks | Jul 02 18:36 |
squarepeg | it's a disassociative that can give a curiously philosophical and abstract perspective | Jul 02 18:36 |
ender2070 | that's why drugs are often labeled 'mind altering' | Jul 02 18:37 |
squarepeg | Probably the government doesn't want me to have it because the power of my will is influencing geopolitical events too much. | Jul 02 18:37 |
ender2070 | how do you know the government didn't design the drug that way to have that precise effect? | Jul 02 18:37 |
squarepeg | (I love to share my delusions of grandeur.) | Jul 02 18:37 |
ender2070 | The thing I notice is the agenda to make us all think we're 'one' | Jul 02 18:38 |
squarepeg | yeah, that's amusing | Jul 02 18:38 |
ender2070 | UN is one in french | Jul 02 18:38 |
squarepeg | I like to claim the status of a 33rd degree Mason, in addition to shamanic claims. | Jul 02 18:39 |
ender2070 | shamanism, druidry, and other forms I think are more credible than some science these days | Jul 02 18:39 |
ender2070 | some science | Jul 02 18:39 |
ender2070 | not all science | Jul 02 18:39 |
ender2070 | lol | Jul 02 18:39 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @torrentfreak: Pirate Party to Run Pirate Bay from Swedish Parliament http://bit.ly/a9CIhT | Jul 02 18:39 | |
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ender2070 | claim the status of 33rd degree? | Jul 02 18:39 |
ender2070 | are you? | Jul 02 18:39 |
squarepeg | I'm not aggressive about promoting my claims | Jul 02 18:39 |
squarepeg | I have a sense of humor about cult lord status | Jul 02 18:40 |
squarepeg | if there is such a thing, I am it | Jul 02 18:40 |
ender2070 | there is no disputing that freemasons exist | Jul 02 18:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] This is how happy eating Rupert Murdoch's hors d'oeuvres can make you http://flic.kr/p/8f9pZV | Jul 02 18:40 | |
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ender2070 | there are two lodges here in Hamilton Ontario | Jul 02 18:40 |
squarepeg | I've known since very early childhood that I had a peculiarly recursive self-awareness | Jul 02 18:41 |
ender2070 | I saw one up in Burks Falls, Ontario (within driving distance of the G8 at Huntsville Ontario) | Jul 02 18:41 |
ender2070 | recursive self-awareness? | Jul 02 18:41 |
ender2070 | I was self aware at an early age | Jul 02 18:41 |
ender2070 | I was walking before age 1 | Jul 02 18:41 |
squarepeg | yes, but it's like the spiral of a nautilus shell - how many turns in the spiral? | Jul 02 18:41 |
ender2070 | i had empathy before 3 | Jul 02 18:41 |
squarepeg | you may now beg to be my disciple | Jul 02 18:42 |
ender2070 | LOL | Jul 02 18:42 |
ender2070 | I don't even know who you are | Jul 02 18:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman's political blog has vanished from the server around July 4th (hopefully just temporarily) http://ur1.ca/0iwxd | Jul 02 18:42 | |
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squarepeg | yeah, it's ridiculous | Jul 02 18:42 |
squarepeg | It's only a joke to me. | Jul 02 18:43 |
squarepeg | anyone who actually wants to be my disciple only gets mocked | Jul 02 18:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz An EU interoperability law of the contemplated kind would affect all significant players including Microsoft. One law for all. | Jul 02 18:43 | |
ender2070 | ahhh | Jul 02 18:43 |
squarepeg | but if someone becomes consternated, I will try to gain the upper hand from their moment of hesitation or confusion. | Jul 02 18:44 |
ender2070 | how far back does your memory go, and how old are you | Jul 02 18:45 |
squarepeg | I don't remember my numeric age from my earlier memories | Jul 02 18:45 |
squarepeg | and they're pretty well faded from over-consideration | Jul 02 18:45 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @nordicons: Finland makes broadband a 'legal right': http://idek.net/2mfl | Jul 02 18:45 | |
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squarepeg | my earliest memories are only memories of memories, recalled and saved so many times they're only cartoons. | Jul 02 18:46 |
ender2070 | I have memories I can guarantee are from before I was 1 | Jul 02 18:46 |
ender2070 | I remember being self aware as a baby | Jul 02 18:46 |
ender2070 | im 25 now | Jul 02 18:46 |
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squarepeg | yes, but did you have telekinesis? | Jul 02 18:47 |
ender2070 | no | Jul 02 18:47 |
squarepeg | were you able to drag your umbilical cord around before the doctors clamped it and clipped it? | Jul 02 18:47 |
ender2070 | my memory doesnt go that far | Jul 02 18:48 |
squarepeg | did you slap the doctor before he slapped you? | Jul 02 18:48 |
ender2070 | I remember a few things I did as a baby | Jul 02 18:48 |
ender2070 | being held by my great grand mother is one | Jul 02 18:48 |
ender2070 | she died before I was 1 | Jul 02 18:48 |
ender2070 | i also remember learning to walk | Jul 02 18:49 |
ender2070 | i used tables and climbed stairs | Jul 02 18:49 |
ender2070 | anything i could use to stand up | Jul 02 18:49 |
squarepeg | that's good if you can remember that | Jul 02 18:50 |
squarepeg | i became socially paranoid at an early age. I realized early that they were all out to get me, because I'm "The One". | Jul 02 18:51 |
ender2070 | the idea that you might be 'jesus' ? | Jul 02 18:52 |
ender2070 | or equivalent | Jul 02 18:52 |
squarepeg | Anyway, I just say these things to ring the alarm bells of all the people who stress themselves over such things. | Jul 02 18:52 |
ThistleWeb | "nobody fucks wit da Jesus" | Jul 02 18:52 |
squarepeg | Choose your mythology. | Jul 02 18:52 |
ender2070 | I had the idea that i'm the only self aware being and everyone else is fake or autonomous | Jul 02 18:53 |
ender2070 | theories are theories though | Jul 02 18:53 |
squarepeg | "The One" is the subjective figure in every myth. | Jul 02 18:53 |
ender2070 | I think therefor I am | Jul 02 18:53 |
squarepeg | May the most egotistical one win | Jul 02 18:53 |
ender2070 | I woke up to the society we live in at an early age | Jul 02 18:54 |
ender2070 | to how bad it is | Jul 02 18:54 |
ender2070 | most people don't question the way things are | Jul 02 18:55 |
ender2070 | they just go along with it | Jul 02 18:55 |
ender2070 | my teachers told me to go along with it, when I asked questions | Jul 02 18:55 |
squarepeg | I'm not going to say it's good or bad. | Jul 02 18:57 |
squarepeg | the problem isn't just those who are blindly egotistical | Jul 02 19:03 |
squarepeg | it's also those who consider themselves austere in being exceptionally not egotistical | Jul 02 19:03 |
squarepeg | those who take pride in being humble are just as bad | Jul 02 19:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft's departing Robotics chief has contacted me with clarifications about his departure (see update): http://ur1.ca/04gdp | Jul 02 19:04 | |
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ender2070 | I could be a freemason | Jul 02 19:09 |
ender2070 | I know someone who can get me in | Jul 02 19:09 |
ender2070 | the only thing stopping me is not owning a car | Jul 02 19:12 |
ender2070 | I would be expected to go to meetings every week in Toronto Ontario | Jul 02 19:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @DigitalSprint: "The mechanism behind community is Stories" - just re-reading the wonderful "The Art of Community" http://cot.ag/b0Bw6w | Jul 02 19:12 | |
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ender2070 | he can only get me into his lodge for-sure | Jul 02 19:13 |
ender2070 | i always make fun of him jokingly, lol | Jul 02 19:13 |
squarepeg | I can't tell you the secret | Jul 02 19:13 |
ender2070 | he works at Diebold | Jul 02 19:13 |
ender2070 | i accuse him of rigging elections all the time | Jul 02 19:14 |
ender2070 | lol | Jul 02 19:14 |
ender2070 | oh so you are a freemason? | Jul 02 19:14 |
ender2070 | you already told me too much then | Jul 02 19:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] California against Nature - http://bit.ly/8ZEkhC Peter Suber offers deep and detailed anyalysis of what the tussle means for #openaccess etc | Jul 02 19:14 | |
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ender2070 | ever think of the Internet as an early telepathic building set? | Jul 02 19:16 |
squarepeg | ender2070: not "a freemason", but the eye at the apex of the pyramid | Jul 02 19:17 |
squarepeg | ok, have a patriotic weekend | Jul 02 19:17 |
schestowitz | Internet is an escape from centralised control | Jul 02 19:17 |
schestowitz | Originally for military to endure something like nuclear strike and still communictae | Jul 02 19:17 |
squarepeg | schestowitz: there you are buddy | Jul 02 19:17 |
ender2070 | squarepeg - illuminati? | Jul 02 19:18 |
schestowitz | Later adopted by more anarchaoic types | Jul 02 19:18 |
ender2070 | LOL | Jul 02 19:18 |
squarepeg | ender2070: "The One" | Jul 02 19:18 |
schestowitz | I like the Internet, it mixes everything | Jul 02 19:18 |
squarepeg | I met Robert Anton Wilson. My father and I had dinner with him. | Jul 02 19:18 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - the internet is also a net, or a web to keep people mainstream | Jul 02 19:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] [update] An (Analogue) Artist's Reply to Just Criticism - http://bit.ly/dDoPQF [added key URL - sorry] #abundance #scarcity #copyright | Jul 02 19:18 | |
squarepeg | he wrote the Illuminati Trilogy, from which most neophytes get their knowledge of the greatest secret society of all | Jul 02 19:18 |
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schestowitz | ot track people's thoughts (an afterthought) | Jul 02 19:19 |
schestowitz | There's DPI now | Jul 02 19:19 |
squarepeg | ok, I'm out | Jul 02 19:19 |
ender2070 | think about what the internet is being used for right now | Jul 02 19:19 |
ender2070 | with all the social media | Jul 02 19:19 |
ender2070 | they dont need big brother | Jul 02 19:19 |
ender2070 | you're your own big brother | Jul 02 19:19 |
ender2070 | and everything you do leaves a log behind somewhere | Jul 02 19:20 |
ender2070 | the internet is a double edged sword | Jul 02 19:20 |
ender2070 | it can cut both the user and the abuser | Jul 02 19:21 |
ender2070 | but being a military invention, its purpose was to be able to track what everyone does | Jul 02 19:21 |
ender2070 | especially with all the internet connected devices (non-pc's) | Jul 02 19:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Google Summer of Code 2010: Meet The Students and Mentors! - http://bit.ly/aqZ4m5 some stats #google #summerofcode | Jul 02 19:22 | |
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ender2070 | you look up directions to a movie theatre, and the government will be able to find out | Jul 02 19:22 |
ender2070 | gps on your cell phone | Jul 02 19:23 |
ender2070 | etc | Jul 02 19:23 |
ender2070 | before the internet not everything left a paper trail | Jul 02 19:23 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: Apple iPhone 4 Reception Explanation Borders on Surreal by @ron_miller on DaniWeb. http://bit.ly/9aELvN | Jul 02 19:23 | |
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ender2070 | I believe they didn't expect us to use the internet against them like we currently do | Jul 02 19:24 |
ender2070 | which is why a lot of laws are being suggested to take rights away from bloggers, talk radio, and any unauthorized media | Jul 02 19:25 |
ender2070 | Hillary Clinton wants to kill talk radio | Jul 02 19:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @jzb: If Apple's explanation is remotely true, AT&T's service is even worse than I thought. Half the time I only get two bars at home. | Jul 02 19:25 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Recently I advised Oracle on how to be successful with the MySQL community - http://is.gd/dcXNR #mysql | Jul 02 19:28 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] One Month In - http://bit.ly/9v0Kgw yeah, whatever happened to that Diaspora lot? #facebook #opensource | Jul 02 19:29 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] RMS Interview on Indian National channel DD9 on Sunday - 4 July 2010 http://post.ly/layj | Jul 02 19:30 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Finalmente. Sera q se vai saber alguma coisa em breve? ♺ @JNegocios: Vara renuncia ao mandato do BCP http://xl.pt/r/bxsJne | Jul 02 19:41 | |
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schestowitz | [19:21] <ender2070> but being a military invention, its purpose was to be able to track what everyone does | Jul 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | Not really, that was not part of the design | Jul 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | The design put together by people like Cerf was made to make no single point of failure | Jul 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | [19:23] <ender2070> before the internet not everything left a paper trail | Jul 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | Shopping too | Jul 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | Here we have Nectar cards, so groceries would cost me 1% more if I wish to pay with cash without being tracked | Jul 02 19:44 |
schestowitz | More of a matter of principle I can't care much about. RMS says London's Oyster is similar | Jul 02 19:44 |
MinceR | there was no "everyone" on that network, it was intended for military use afaik | Jul 02 19:45 |
ender2070 | [14:39] <schestowitz> Not really, that was not part of the design | Jul 02 19:48 |
ender2070 | when is the US military honest? | Jul 02 19:48 |
ender2070 | you dont think they opened it up to the world to track people? | Jul 02 19:48 |
schestowitz | All those things are not designed for the side effects | Jul 02 19:48 |
schestowitz | Nectar is to help the customer, but the side effects happen to be exploited. Same with server logs, which can help diagnosis | Jul 02 19:48 |
ender2070 | Nectar sounds like its a punishment for not being tracked | Jul 02 19:49 |
schestowitz | No | Jul 02 19:49 |
ender2070 | it sure does | Jul 02 19:49 |
schestowitz | It's a concessions thing, a card where you can accumulate credit, then get discounts | Jul 02 19:49 |
ender2070 | it costs more to use cash | Jul 02 19:49 |
ender2070 | ohhhh | Jul 02 19:49 |
schestowitz | No | Jul 02 19:49 |
schestowitz | You can use cash | Jul 02 19:49 |
ender2070 | yeah we have those too | Jul 02 19:49 |
schestowitz | But the cards then gets swiped, thus indetifying you | Jul 02 19:50 |
ender2070 | club Z points | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | And when you go online you see them listing what you bought | Jul 02 19:50 |
ender2070 | pc points | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | They link the names | Jul 02 19:50 |
ender2070 | petro points | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | That too | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | BP | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | Nectar spans many businesses | Jul 02 19:50 |
ender2070 | well without the internet they would have to build infrastructure for all of that | Jul 02 19:50 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Tweegle – You Look Googling From Your Boss, But Using Twitter Actually - http://bit.ly/d63Bq5 clever #twitter #google | Jul 02 19:50 | |
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schestowitz | So if you pay for petrol with cash and swipe the card, then they still get you logged | Jul 02 19:50 |
ender2070 | the internet is the backbone for a lot of tracking these days | Jul 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | Jul 02 19:51 | |
ender2070 | everything on the internet has been logged from day one | Jul 02 19:51 |
schestowitz | But I hard theories about CIA ties | Jul 02 19:51 |
schestowitz | Except Matt Cutts, I know of no substantial connection | Jul 02 19:51 |
ender2070 | there wont be | Jul 02 19:51 |
ender2070 | even if you find a connection nobody will care | Jul 02 19:52 |
ender2070 | Osama Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, and nobody cares | Jul 02 19:52 |
ender2070 | they just think he went rogue | Jul 02 19:52 |
ender2070 | his family did the reconstruction and bomb proofing after the first attack | Jul 02 19:52 |
schestowitz | http://asiajin.com/blog/2010/07/02/tweegle-you-look-googling-from-your-boss-but-using-twitter-actually/ | Jul 02 19:52 |
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schestowitz | Haha | Jul 02 19:52 |
schestowitz | Clever | Jul 02 19:52 |
ender2070 | the bush/bin laden amalgamation | Jul 02 19:52 |
schestowitz | /bin/bush ? | Jul 02 19:54 |
schestowitz | sudo killall -9 /bin/bush | Jul 02 19:54 |
schestowitz | ERROR | Jul 02 19:54 |
schestowitz | try /bin/obama | Jul 02 19:55 |
schestowitz | cat /bin/obama | Jul 02 19:55 |
schestowitz | FILE IS BINARY | Jul 02 19:55 |
schestowitz | exec /bin/obama | Jul 02 19:55 |
schestowitz | "OBAMA is a Marxist muslim. Love, Glenn Beck" | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jul 02 19:56 |
ender2070 | lol | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | You should see polls | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | They are deluded | Jul 02 19:56 |
ender2070 | Obama is just a communist | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | Like 50 of them think Obama was not born in Hawaii | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | ANd many think he's with 'them' | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | Reality distortion fiele | Jul 02 19:56 |
schestowitz | Reality distortion field | Jul 02 19:57 |
schestowitz | It was in The Young Turks, let me find it. | Jul 02 19:57 |
ender2070 | well i wont lie about him to get raitings | Jul 02 19:57 |
ender2070 | ratings | Jul 02 19:57 |
ender2070 | i dont trust the young turks | Jul 02 19:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8UOaEkdis | Jul 02 19:57 |
ender2070 | not reliable, they are disinfo agents | Jul 02 19:57 |
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schestowitz | :-D | Jul 02 19:57 |
schestowitz | Hilarious | Jul 02 19:57 |
ender2070 | I think the first thing you need to do before you take someones word is to do a background check on them | Jul 02 20:06 |
ender2070 | See what organizations they've pledged allegiance to | Jul 02 20:07 |
ender2070 | See who funds them | Jul 02 20:07 |
ender2070 | and best of all: check the facts they are spewing before being a brainless repeater | Jul 02 20:07 |
ender2070 | EVERYONE has an agenda | Jul 02 20:08 |
MinceR | opening up came _after_ design :> | Jul 02 20:09 |
ender2070 | huh? | Jul 02 20:09 |
ender2070 | talking about the net? | Jul 02 20:09 |
ender2070 | thats possible but you can't prove it | Jul 02 20:10 |
ender2070 | i cant either but i doubt they werent tracking the students using it before the mass public were allowed on | Jul 02 20:11 |
ender2070 | actually I think tracking would be required in the design for security purposes | Jul 02 20:12 |
ender2070 | even dial-up non centralized BBS systems tracked their users | Jul 02 20:13 |
ender2070 | a sysop could literally echo your connectoin on his screen | Jul 02 20:13 |
ender2070 | connection* | Jul 02 20:14 |
ender2070 | I miss BBS's | Jul 02 20:16 |
ender2070 | :( | Jul 02 20:16 |
ender2070 | it was a lot easier to keep communication a secret | Jul 02 20:17 |
ender2070 | people often hacked payphones to get a dialup connection to become untracable | Jul 02 20:18 |
ender2070 | nothing on the internet is untracable | Jul 02 20:19 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/39072546#notice-39321002 "it is pity #rms's political blog is not there. carefully researched, it has good hints. #blog #politics" | Jul 02 20:26 |
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schestowitz | USENET is being killed | Jul 02 20:27 |
tessier | Usenet died 10 years ago. | Jul 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | It's decentralised | Jul 02 20:27 |
tessier | Lots on the net is untraceable. | Jul 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | tessier: but this time it's killed *killed* | Jul 02 20:27 |
tessier | schestowitz: How so? | Jul 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | They cut off access through ISPs | Jul 02 20:27 |
tessier | Who did? | Jul 02 20:27 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] c'mon @fabsh. NED wins. Show some respect. | Jul 02 20:27 | |
schestowitz | tessier: AT&T, Rogers... | Jul 02 20:27 |
schestowitz | Cox raher | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | Hardly anybody uses it anymore. Customers were not willing to pay for it. | Jul 02 20:28 |
schestowitz | I haven't kept good track | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | Run your own usenet server. | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | I can't say I blame them. | Jul 02 20:28 |
schestowitz | And I think Google Group set a subscription wall | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | The should have just dumped the binary groups first though. | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | Would have cut down on a lot of the cost. | Jul 02 20:28 |
tessier | Of course, then even fewer people would use it. | Jul 02 20:28 |
schestowitz | Mozilla and other still rely on USENET | Jul 02 20:28 |
schestowitz | Some FOSS project use it | Jul 02 20:29 |
tessier | I thought they did mostly mailing lists? | Jul 02 20:29 |
tessier | And if anything, the lists were gatewayed to usenet. | Jul 02 20:29 |
schestowitz | I know | Jul 02 20:29 |
schestowitz | But some use it via USENET/Groups | Jul 02 20:29 |
schestowitz | Unless their ISP quits it | Jul 02 20:30 |
tessier | The Mozilla project could just run their own usenet server. | Jul 02 20:30 |
tessier | And still feed to the upstreams. | Jul 02 20:30 |
ender2070 | [15:24] <tessier> Lots on the net is untraceable. <---- HAHAHAHAHA | Jul 02 20:30 |
ender2070 | even freenet and tor have possible attack vectors and are tracable | Jul 02 20:32 |
ender2070 | not easily but its possible | Jul 02 20:32 |
ender2070 | people who think encryption will save them are naive | Jul 02 20:32 |
tessier | If you want to securely communicate you won't be using a web browser. | Jul 02 20:35 |
schestowitz | There is dictation and voice recognition with syntactic analysis for phones | Jul 02 20:38 |
schestowitz | So you're best off with pen/paper or face-to-face | Jul 02 20:38 |
ender2070 | [15:32] <tessier> If you want to securely communicate you won't be using a web browser. | Jul 02 20:39 |
ender2070 | everything leaves a log somewhere | Jul 02 20:39 |
ender2070 | later guys | Jul 02 20:39 |
ender2070 | and quantum computing makes encryption obsolete | Jul 02 20:40 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Mine first Octave coding which detect motion in images and smooth the image - http://pastebin.com/cBciVccv #octave #image | Jul 02 20:53 | |
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schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > Not sure where this link should go: | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/06/05/microsoft_shuts_swedish_mobile_technology/ | Jul 02 20:56 |
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schestowitz | > | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > AFAIK it is from before The Reg signed up as some kind of M$ advertising | Jul 02 20:56 |
schestowitz | > partner. | Jul 02 20:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Wow - 1GHZ SBC drives dual displays - http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Advantech-PCM3343/?kc=rss #sbc | Jul 02 20:59 | |
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MinceR | http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3891071/Tech-Comics-The-Joy-of-Patents.htm | Jul 02 21:01 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @erdgeist Ich faß es nicht… M$ hat zum ersten mal was Praktisches erfunden Error: The URL you entered is on our blacklist or of a type n | Jul 02 21:14 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] If the other scripting allowed in HTML5 like octave,python,ruby in html5 then it will become coolest thing. Shit they will jump with mono :( | Jul 02 21:17 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Colin Charles on my Oracle/MySQL video - http://is.gd/dd5gJ - btw, Colin Charles is a legend, respec' to the man. :-) #mysql | Jul 02 21:31 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Research: Android's Big Lead Over Apple In Free Apps - http://bit.ly/8ZUT4A not necessarily #freesw, but it's a start #android #iphone | Jul 02 22:31 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Facebook Unveils One of the History's Most Powerful Recommendation Engines - http://bit.ly/doUXhb getting a little worrying, perhaps? | Jul 02 22:33 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Concrete Company Sues Woman For Posting Negative Review On Angie's List - http://bit.ly/9bVusx Streisand effect requires us to pass this on | Jul 02 22:36 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Quote of the Day: “Gates Foundation Still Giving Windows Away for Free” http://ur1.ca/0izkb #dumping #gnu #linux #india | Jul 02 23:18 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HP Needs to Support OpenDocument Format (ODF) to Help Itself http://ur1.ca/0izmd #ooxml #odf #format #standard #linux | Jul 02 23:30 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Futurama Takes on Apple LOL http://2tu.us/2etk | Jul 02 23:45 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Company of #Novell Co-Founder Drew Major is Now Dead http://ur1.ca/0izps Move Networks is reportedly shutting down | Jul 02 23:47 | |
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Diablo-D3 | that headline sucks | Jul 02 23:49 |
Diablo-D3 | it took me a couple tries to not misread it as drew major is dead | Jul 02 23:49 |
cubezzz | anyone recall what rtime is part of? | Jul 02 23:50 |
cubezzz | glibc | Jul 02 23:54 |
MinceR | perhaps that was intended :> | Jul 02 23:54 |
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