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| DaemonFC | lmfao | Jul 06 00:14 |
| schestowitz | [23:11] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, If you have a $400 an hour lawyer, and you have a few minutes left over, it's worth asking their advice on hypothetical common situations | Jul 06 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Why hire such a person? | Jul 06 00:15 |
| schestowitz | There's a whole industry of mouths for hire now | Jul 06 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's how the system works | Jul 06 00:15 |
| schestowitz | People hire spokespeople to wrestle at court for $$ :-) | Jul 06 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't have one, you're much more likely to go to jail | Jul 06 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | public defenders are a joke | Jul 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | They write complex laws with jargon only lawyer can interpret | Jul 06 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | you get "defended" by the system that's trying to send you to prison | Jul 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | This justify the need for them | Jul 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Same with patents | Jul 06 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's funny isn't it? | Jul 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | The Legal Cartel... like police corps playing "gang" | Jul 06 00:16 |
| schestowitz | [23:55] <squarepeg> What a nuisance. I'm having a problem getting around their default networking configuration to connect the MySQL Query Browser | Jul 06 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Is that a support channel? | Jul 06 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_defender | Jul 06 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Just obey laws then | Jul 06 00:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#27%20June%202010%20%28Domain%20xxx%29 "ICANN is setting up a domain .xxx for pornography, playing into the hands of plans for censorship. " | Jul 06 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Interesting idea | Jul 06 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Easier to filter by suffix | Jul 06 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The police like to nab *someone* | Jul 06 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily the someone who did it, but the easiest person they think they can pin it on | Jul 06 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's well documented that the police tend to arrest mentally ill and/or mentally retarded and/or poor people for arrest | Jul 06 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | because it's easier to trick a confession out of one of those people | Jul 06 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | and make it stick | Jul 06 00:32 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There was a man in prison for 26 years for rape/murder who confessed to it and was later exonerated by DNA evidence | Jul 06 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | he confessed because he was mentally retarded and the police strung him along into saying enough stuff for them to get a conviction | Jul 06 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | police target people like that, it's payday without any work | Jul 06 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Editor blames security forces after Rwandan journalist shot dead http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/25/rwandan-journalist-shot-dead | Jul 06 00:35 |
| schestowitz | dead journalists | Jul 06 00:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: same with waterboarding/tortuee in general | Jul 06 00:36 |
| schestowitz | "Say what we went to hear or suffer" | Jul 06 00:36 |
| schestowitz | It only gives false confessions | Jul 06 00:36 |
| schestowitz | /went/want/ | Jul 06 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | if you say what they want to hear, things are going to get much worse | Jul 06 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:37 |
| schestowitz | I didn't think about it when I was younger | Jul 06 00:37 |
| schestowitz | On the surface, torture might seem effective | Jul 06 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | torture isn't reliable | Jul 06 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | after a while, people will say anything just to make the torture stop | Jul 06 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Until you think of innocent people being tottured to just say anything to end the pain | Jul 06 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Torture is good for making people say... something | Jul 06 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If you're going to torture someone looking for a legitimate confession, you don't provide the details during the torture | Jul 06 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:38 |
| schestowitz | That something needn't be the truth, it needs to be what satisfies the ;'interrogator' | Jul 06 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | providing the details during the torture is teaching them what to say to make you stop | Jul 06 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | I know you did this and this and that,* WHACK!!!* | Jul 06 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | OK, I did that and that and that! | Jul 06 00:40 |
| schestowitz | But sometimes they can expect what they need to be told | Jul 06 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | You're absolutely right! | Jul 06 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise they just suffer and suffer and say nothing | Jul 06 00:40 |
| schestowitz | So again, it's not effective | Jul 06 00:40 |
| schestowitz | It penalises the innocent | Jul 06 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | The most effective way to torture someone you really want information from is to not say anything to them | Jul 06 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Nothing they say can stop it | Jul 06 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | walk in the room, beat the shit out of them, walk back out | Jul 06 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | if they know anything, eventually they'll volunteer it | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | after enough cycles of that | Jul 06 00:41 |
| schestowitz | What if they don't know? | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | then eventually they'll die | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | why do you care? | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | if their only value to you is for information, and they don't have any, and they end up dying from the torture, what did you lose? | Jul 06 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Or get trauma for life | Jul 06 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | OK they didn't know anything, NEXT! | Jul 06 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Thank goodness the US is a humane country that will never use torture :-) | Jul 06 00:42 |
| schestowitz | It just offshores it... | Jul 06 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Like everything else | Jul 06 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the British help | Jul 06 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | The British love Enhanced Interrogation | Jul 06 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | the people there ignore it just like any American would | Jul 06 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | they don't care | Jul 06 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's no them being tortured, yet | Jul 06 00:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/25/egypt-police-death-protest | Jul 06 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | *not | Jul 06 00:43 |
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| Techrights | Hello World! | Jul 06 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I have to keep my curtains closed at all times on one of the windows in this room | Jul 06 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's in the line of sight of one of the cameras at the jail | Jul 06 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | they could rotate it a bit and probably look right into that window if they wanted | Jul 06 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | so I just keep the curtains closed | Jul 06 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 00:45 |
| schestowitz | RMS:: "Barney Frank, often thought of as a Liberal, is now working for the Banksters. " http://www.prwatch.org/node/9189 | Jul 06 00:46 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: some bankster company tried to recruiit me | Jul 06 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | the jail parking lot is only about 50-60 feet from where I'm sitting | Jul 06 00:46 |
| schestowitz | They use secretive software engineers | Jul 06 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | NDAs and all | Jul 06 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | salami slicing | Jul 06 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | Superman 3 even | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Smelled evil | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | They won't even name their clients or software | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | NDAs are nasty | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | it's one thing when algo is taboo | Jul 06 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Or when software is copyrighted so you can't reuse code | Jul 06 00:48 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Jul 06 00:48 |
| schestowitz | NDA criminalises thought | Jul 06 00:48 |
| schestowitz | You know certain things, but you are legally threatened if you express your mind | Jul 06 00:48 |
| schestowitz | How's that for immoral? | Jul 06 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://s0.ilike.com/play#Johnny+Cash:One+Piece+At+A+Time:24954:s311595.28058.2233175.0.2.239%2Cstd_0bc9e0fd45854e18b436754a15a7bd80 | Jul 06 00:48 |
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| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 00:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I am THIS big of a nerd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_Benelux_discography | Jul 06 00:50 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/828372--man-arrested-and-left-in-wire-cage-under-new-g20-law | Jul 06 00:52 |
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| schestowitz | "I am not an animal"...... :-) | Jul 06 00:52 |
| schestowitz | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/25/1811204/Pakistan-To-Scour-Google-Yahoo-For-Blasphemy | Jul 06 00:53 |
| Techrights | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Pakistan To Scour Google, Yahoo For Blasphemy .::. Size~: 154.79 KB | Jul 06 00:53 |
| schestowitz | "Blasphemy...." | Jul 06 00:53 |
| schestowitz | A nation so afraid of drawings | Jul 06 00:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#30%20June%202010%20%28International%20ettiquette%20according%20to%20Ahmadinejad%29 "The fact that Iran is already enriching uranium beyond what is needed for nuclear reactors shows that its goal is to make nuclear weapons. It is probably impossible to prevent Iran from finishing the job." | Jul 06 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The theory is that the police are not there to protect anyone, that they are only there to "uphold the law" | Jul 06 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | if upholding the law happens to mean protecting someone, they will do that | Jul 06 00:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=ENGUSA20100624002&lang=e | Jul 06 00:56 |
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| DaemonFC | but protecting that person is not their purpose | Jul 06 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's why one day they'll rescue a woman from a psychopath with a butcher's knife, and the next day they'll throw a 15 year old in jail for a year over a quarter ounce of marijuana | Jul 06 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | both are coincidental effects of "upholding the laws" | Jul 06 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | even laws that are fundamentally unfair, ridiculous, and heavy handed are their job to enforce | Jul 06 00:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/06/22/2010-06-22_texas_gop_platform_criminalize_gay_marriage_and_ban_sodomy_outlaw_strip_clubs_an.html | Jul 06 00:59 |
| Techrights | Title: Texas GOP platform: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and pornography .::. Size~: 52.06 KB | Jul 06 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Jesusland? | Jul 06 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | so the police are really your friend or your enemy, just whatever applies at the moment | Jul 06 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're not evil, but they're not good guys either | Jul 06 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're functionaries of the legal system | Jul 06 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The thing that bothers me about those protests is the fact that there are more looters than protestors | Jul 06 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | and that's really what gives the police something to point to as justification for being there | Jul 06 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that there are many looters in the area gives the police a lot of authority because they can say that anyone in the area is suspected of being a vandal or a looter | Jul 06 01:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1289780/Dont-taze-granny-American-police-accused-using-Taser-86-year-old-bed-ridden-grandmother.html | Jul 06 01:03 |
| Techrights | Title: 'Don't taze my granny': American police accused of using a Taser on an 86-year-old, bed-ridden grandmother | Mail Online .::. Size~: 61.28 KB | Jul 06 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | so to show up means putting yourself in danger of being shot or arrested | Jul 06 01:03 |
| schestowitz | Your grandma? | Jul 06 01:03 |
| schestowitz | "I wonder if next the police will charge both of them with crimes. That's what police usually do after they go on a rampage against someone innocent." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html#30%20June%202010%20%28Arizona%20cops%20act%20like%20sadistic%20thugs%29 | Jul 06 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's funny is the police are getting tazed a lot now too | Jul 06 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | The law does not prevent a felon from legally buying a taser | Jul 06 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | so lots of felons who don't want to go to the trouble of finding a gun will buy a taser and shoot the cops with that | Jul 06 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 01:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/29/uae-rape-victims-women | Jul 06 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | Sent to prison for complaining about being raped | Jul 06 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, My favorite though is the taser that looks like a cell phone | Jul 06 01:06 |
| schestowitz | It's called hypePhone | Jul 06 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | because the cop will approach and get ready to jerk the phone out of your hand, and that's when you "let him have it" :) | Jul 06 01:06 |
| schestowitz | It also acts as a grenade | Jul 06 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Very rarely though | Jul 06 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes a smoke grenade | Jul 06 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Foxconn makes iWeapons now | Jul 06 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | pepper spray is too unreliable | Jul 06 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | you have to hit them in the eyes and hope they're not used to it | Jul 06 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | if you buy pepper spray, don't buy it at Walmart, go to a hunting/fishing store and get "bear strength pepper spray" | Jul 06 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | that is usually double the strength of what they sell as regular pepper spray | Jul 06 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What I want to see is a cell phone taser with a 5 second countdown | Jul 06 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Cop: "Hand me the phone" | Jul 06 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | push a button, hand it to the cop | Jul 06 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | 3, 2, 1, ZAP | Jul 06 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | he won't be able to move for about 10 seconds or so, during which time you grab his handgun | Jul 06 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | now you have a hostage that the police probably do want back | Jul 06 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | Jul 06 01:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/30/chilcot-inquiry-lord-goldsmith-blair | Jul 06 01:11 |
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| DaemonFC | more leverage to help get to Mexico anyway | Jul 06 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | unless you've done something to anger them so much as to report on the news that you killed the cop THEN they moved in on you | Jul 06 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | you ever wonder in hostage situations how many times the police have sacrificed the hostages to get to the "suspect"? | Jul 06 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, obviously there's the Branch Davidian incident | Jul 06 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of hard to firebomb a compound and kill hundreds of people without some of it leaking out before you have a cover story | Jul 06 01:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I need a self cooling pillow, if you forgot my birthday a short while ago,then now is your chance for compensation. | Jul 06 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | but I mean, what about the stuff you don't hear about? | Jul 06 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Like what? | Jul 06 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | the hostages aren't worth "negotiating with the terrorists", so you just sacrifice the hostages | Jul 06 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Russia does it all the time | Jul 06 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | the Russians move in and kill everyone to avoid agreeing to even petty and insignificant demands | Jul 06 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | I guess the idea is to send the message that they will do it every time | Jul 06 01:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/30/activists-arms-factory-acquitted | Jul 06 01:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, like schools and theaters | Jul 06 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | the Russians just pump in tons of OC gas and kill half the people in there | Jul 06 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | they don't give a shit | Jul 06 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | maybe the US or other governments aren't so open about their willingness to kill hostages | Jul 06 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | but I bet it still gets done | Jul 06 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I see gun ownership as this. Yeah the police are there, but they have no particular interest in my safety. | Jul 06 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | and even if I did, it's not like they'll be close enough to help anyway | Jul 06 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | *even if they did | Jul 06 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | in a lot of situations that could come up, it's better to rely on "stand your ground" laws and just shoot the person threatening you | Jul 06 01:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/07/africa-crashes-out-of-world-cup-any.html | Jul 06 01:22 |
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| DaemonFC | most states have them | Jul 06 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana says that if you were running after me with a knife, I'm well within my rights to shoot you, and neither you or your family are legally allowed to sue me for it | Jul 06 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think that makes enough sense | Jul 06 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana law also says that if you're on my property with the intent to commit an illegal act, and you hurt yourself, you can't sue me | Jul 06 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | you go out to California and have a burglar hurt himself on your property, you could get sued for millions of dollars | Jul 06 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | California law is more like the Canadian or British attitude | Jul 06 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | you have no right to defend yourself, the criminal can do whatever he wants | Jul 06 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | you'll get a tougher sentence than he will if you try to stop him | Jul 06 01:25 |
| ThistleWeb | the UK has a "reasonable force" defence | Jul 06 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | under Indiana law, I'm immune from prosecution or a lawsuit if I use "reasonable force" to stop anyone from committing a felony | Jul 06 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | against myself or others | Jul 06 01:26 |
| ThistleWeb | that's entirely flexable though, like "fair use" | Jul 06 01:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digg.com- Digging its grave one power Digger at a time http://ur1.ca/0k0sc good post, I used to be ranked 17th in Digg.com, later left | Jul 06 01:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | reasonable force just means whatever a "reasonable person" would do to counteract them | Jul 06 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't give me the right to viciously attack a trespasser | Jul 06 01:27 |
| ThistleWeb | aka, you can defend yourself with anything as long as it's reasobale in relation to the threat | Jul 06 01:27 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Jul 06 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | but if that tresspasser is vandalizing my property violently and I hit him over the head wit ha shovel | Jul 06 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm good :) | Jul 06 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | if you knock him unconcious the threat is over, but keep hitting him and it becomes assault | Jul 06 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jul 06 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | it's all flexable, everyone's reactins are different | Jul 06 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's a difference between defending yourself, others, and property | Jul 06 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | and beating the shit out of the guy when the threat is over | Jul 06 01:29 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Jul 06 01:29 |
| ThistleWeb | or chasing him down the street with a club | Jul 06 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | say a guy comes onto my property and starts going to work on my car with a baseball bat | Jul 06 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | can I shoot him? sure | Jul 06 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | in the head? probably not | Jul 06 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | shooting him in the leg to make him stop would probably hold up in court | Jul 06 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | course you can, yer just facing a murder charge if ya do | Jul 06 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | shooting him in the head is not reasonable | Jul 06 01:30 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm sure he'd agree | Jul 06 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | maybe not him | Jul 06 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | but would a jury? | Jul 06 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | although he probs wouldnt volunteer his leg either | Jul 06 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | the jury is over there thinking "Would *I* shoot a vandal in the leg to make them stop trashing my property?" | Jul 06 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | there's always the idea that property can be replaced, it's not a person | Jul 06 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | much more likely to answer "Yes I would" than if the question was "Would I execute a vandal with a head shot?" | Jul 06 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 01:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/9228 | Jul 06 01:32 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm white, I could visit Arizona without a problem | Jul 06 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | hell, black people can too | Jul 06 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | or Asian people probably | Jul 06 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | heh, even if I did have to laminate a birth certificate and social security card to carry around with me I would | Jul 06 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | if it meant the government would get the illegal aliens out of here | Jul 06 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | those are the only people that are pissed, the illegal aliens | Jul 06 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | and people that are far off the liberal deep end | Jul 06 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing in the US constitution that Arizona's immigration law contradicts | Jul 06 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | the state of Arizona can't issue visas or control who is a citizen | Jul 06 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | but they can check to see if you are a citizen when they arrest you | Jul 06 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'd tend to believe that falls within the 10th Amendment | Jul 06 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | The Constitution is silent about who has the power to enforce immigration laws | Jul 06 01:36 |
| squarepeg | how about those predator drones they're going to be flying over the border. Pretty nasty to have those things flying in American skies. | Jul 06 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | the 10th Amendment states that the powers not granted or denied to the Federal government are given to the states and people | Jul 06 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | so the US government needs to pass a federal law that passes the constitutional tests that directly contradicts Arizona's law | Jul 06 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | or they need to amend the US Constitution to clearly state that only the Feds have immigration enforcement powers | Jul 06 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | but right now, there's really nothing saying Arizona can't do what they did :) | Jul 06 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | and quite a few things that at least suggest that they can | Jul 06 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | squarepeg, Well, the Federal government has the right (legally) to operate UAVs over any and all US territory | Jul 06 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | state level agencies use UAVs too you know | Jul 06 01:39 |
| squarepeg | I don't like them | Jul 06 01:39 |
| squarepeg | It's like something out of a morbid science fiction novel | Jul 06 01:40 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/39833173 "" | Jul 06 01:40 |
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| schestowitz | "" | Jul 06 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Damn. | Jul 06 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | when it's a state authority, they can fly the UAV into another state, but any evidence gained there can't be used unless they have an agreement with the other state that allows them police jurisdiction there | Jul 06 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | so say you had the Indiana government that JUST KNEW that someone was growing a lot of weed in an Ohio county that was right across the border | Jul 06 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | they could fly over the site where it was being grown, but the evidence would not be admissible in an Ohio courtroom | Jul 06 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | if the authorities in Ohio made any arrests based on that, they would likely be thrown out | Jul 06 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | but if the two states had an agreement extending jurisdictions to each other, it may hold up as evidence | Jul 06 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | states don't like sharing jurisdiction with out of state police agencies | Jul 06 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | so this almost never happens | Jul 06 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | there are some funny cases where a town is in two different states | Jul 06 01:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.adamsherk.com/public-relations/most-overused-press-release-buzzwords/ | Jul 06 01:45 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_City,_Indiana | Jul 06 01:45 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_City,_Ohio | Jul 06 01:45 |
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| DaemonFC | so the town actually has two different mayors | Jul 06 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | and the state line runs down main street | Jul 06 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | all the bars and liquor stores are on the Ohio side because liquor laws are more relaxed there | Jul 06 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Until 1985, the legal drinking age in Ohio was 18, while in Indiana it was 21 | Jul 06 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | so people under 21 went to Ohio just to buy liquor that was illegal to possess in Indiana | Jul 06 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | take it back with them | Jul 06 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm assuming the Union City police had fun with that | Jul 06 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you cross main street with the liquor, you're under arrest | Jul 06 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | but if you cross main street intoxicated after drinking the liquor in Ohio, the police just have to drive you home | Jul 06 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 01:51 |
| ThistleWeb | handy blue light taxi service, and free too | Jul 06 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | indeed | Jul 06 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, I read laws whenever I get bored | Jul 06 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | I've even read the entire city code of Huntington, Indiana :D | Jul 06 01:53 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought about setting up a global collection of laws still in the statue books as a website ages ago, searchable by country, state, city etc | Jul 06 01:53 |
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| ThistleWeb | sent in by peeps around the world | Jul 06 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's some stuff in our town ordinance that would likely not stand up in the Indiana or Federal court system | Jul 06 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | if they tried enforcing it | Jul 06 01:54 |
| ThistleWeb | like in York (england) it's still legal to shoot a scotsman with a crossbow on a sunday | Jul 06 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | don't they have a supremacy concept? | Jul 06 01:54 |
| *ThistleWeb avoids York on Sundays just in case any locals with crossbows have heard of that one, and want a free potshot | Jul 06 01:55 | |
| ThistleWeb | no idea | Jul 06 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | local ordinance is typically a joke | Jul 06 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | because there are so many state and federal laws that it could contradict, that probably half the stuff they pass at a local level is probably waiting to be overturned if anyone ever fights it | Jul 06 01:56 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, these laws are funny, but have been superceded by others and just got lost in the cleanup | Jul 06 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, The town government made it a $500 fine if businesses use people carrying signs on the sidewalk to advertise their business | Jul 06 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | they all do it | Jul 06 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | not one ticket has been written either | Jul 06 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | the police know that if they enforce it, they'll be sued, and the Indiana court system will overturn it | Jul 06 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | the town doesn't want to have to fight a court case that will cost them tens of thousands of dollars over a $500 ticket they wrote someone | Jul 06 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | that keeps them in check, but the ordinance is technically in force | Jul 06 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huntingtontax.net/content/Default.aspx?cid=9 | Jul 06 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 06 01:59 |
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| DaemonFC | FreedomPay!!! | Jul 06 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | ROFL! | Jul 06 01:59 |
| schestowitz | Oh, cool. | Jul 06 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | You have to pay us $1,000 a year for property you already owned | Jul 06 02:00 |
| schestowitz | We made front page... | Jul 06 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | so you can keep enjoying the glorious freedom to pay us | Jul 06 02:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: re tax | Jul 06 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Since you brought that up.. | Jul 06 02:00 |
| schestowitz | You found a loophol | Jul 06 02:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Florian Müller has made a rash of really bad decisions lately, if he's actually supporting FOSS." http://ur1.ca/0k0yk | Jul 06 02:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @brianbehlendorf: iPad out-of-the-box experience is surprisingly clumsy. Registration req'd b4 using. Hard to give as a gift pre-loaded. | Jul 06 02:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Your landlord doesn't pay for mowing the lawn | Jul 06 02:01 |
| schestowitz | So he's discounting what you otherwise would pay | Jul 06 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Like babysitting | Jul 06 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Then look the other way when IRS comes | Jul 06 02:01 |
| schestowitz | That's why in the UK, even babysitters are now at risk of being asked for tax... even one lady keeping an eye on a friend's kid | Jul 06 02:02 |
| schestowitz | Can you imagine? | Jul 06 02:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-07-03-003-35-NW-LL-0000 | Jul 06 02:02 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I uncovered some fraud | Jul 06 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | my mom's ex husband forged her name on their property tax records | Jul 06 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | to take her name off part of the property she still owns | Jul 06 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | I called her and gave her the tax ID numbers so she can bring it to her lawyer's attention tomorrow | Jul 06 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | looks like my landlord pays $384 twice a year on this house | Jul 06 02:17 |
| schestowitz | How old is it? | Jul 06 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The British common law system vestiges in our codified legal system are amusing | Jul 06 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I have no idea | Jul 06 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'd guess it was constructed in the late 1960s or early 1970s | Jul 06 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | there aren't any houses on this street that look like they went up after that period | Jul 06 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | some have been condemned and bulldozed | Jul 06 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's why there's a giant field across the street from me | Jul 06 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The one I filed a lawsuit against the city over | Jul 06 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | them not mowing it | Jul 06 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | turning it into a first growth forest | Jul 06 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | by the time they agreed to mow it, it had gotten so bad that they had to take industrial mowing equipment to it | Jul 06 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | like the kind they use to clear farm land | Jul 06 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | the town government likes to let this side of town go to hell | Jul 06 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | we're just here to pay taxes | Jul 06 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | the other side of town with all the rich people has things like underground power lines that can't be knocked over by trees | Jul 06 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | and properly maintained parks | Jul 06 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's hardly any voter turnout in the precinct I live in | Jul 06 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | turnout was 39% for Huntington 1 and 1A in 2004 | Jul 06 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | when I volunteered to canvass all October and early November in 2008, the turnout was still only 51% | Jul 06 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Just get the non-voters and win | Jul 06 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | you go over to the rich sides of town and turnout is like 80-90% | Jul 06 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | poor people don't bother to vote and so politicians fear them even less | Jul 06 02:27 |
| schestowitz | I never vote here, even though I could | Jul 06 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's how we keep getting stuck with the Updikes and the Stoffels | Jul 06 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | crooked political machine in these parts | Jul 06 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | the mayor uses the town police to rough up anyone who opposes him | Jul 06 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | even in his own party's primary | Jul 06 02:29 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, He had his good friend the county Superior Court judge issue a bench warrant against his last opponent | Jul 06 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | over unpaid property taxes | Jul 06 02:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD3xfT0c99g | Jul 06 02:30 |
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| DaemonFC | he had the guy arrested and put in jail over the weekend | Jul 06 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | so he could face the judge over his "tax situation" | Jul 06 02:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09Ha5M82us&NR=1 | Jul 06 02:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Updike is the Richard Nixon of Huntington, Indiana | Jul 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | complete with a dirty tricks squad | Jul 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-)( | Jul 06 02:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure he'll pay Microsoft is tax of move to Linux | Jul 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | the town police | Jul 06 02:31 |
| schestowitz | *its | Jul 06 02:32 |
| schestowitz | *or | Jul 06 02:32 |
| schestowitz | ok, too tired | Jul 06 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, better | Jul 06 02:32 |
| schestowitz | can't typ, gbn | Jul 06 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | the town threatened to go to Linux if Microsoft didn't give us free computers for the library | Jul 06 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | so they're all Pentium 4 Dell models running Windows XP Professional | Jul 06 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | which is a step up from Windows 95 and Pentium 233's | Jul 06 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | which is what we had before | Jul 06 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | up until about 2002, the library here was still making you use Netscape Navigator 4 | Jul 06 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | then someone installed IE 5.5 | Jul 06 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | (the last one that ran on Windows 95) | Jul 06 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | now they seem to have your choice of IE 6 or Firefox on Windows XP | Jul 06 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | but only some of the computers have Firefox on them and none of them let you install your own software obviously | Jul 06 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | so I memorized which ones have it and which ones don't | Jul 06 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | so I can be sure not to get a terminal that only has IE | Jul 06 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Firefox 3.6.6 still runs on WIndows 9x | Jul 06 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | but you have to be running that KernelEx program | Jul 06 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 4 fails even with KernelEx loaded though | Jul 06 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://sourceforge.net/projects/kernelex/ | Jul 06 02:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The kernel extensions is licensed GPL2 | Jul 06 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | odd | Jul 06 02:40 |
| *DaemonFC wonders if the guy just ported some Wine code over and doesn't know how licensing works | Jul 06 02:40 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Rumor has it, @lefty does not work at ACCESS - Does someone need to update his social media profiles? | Jul 06 03:38 | |
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| ender2070 | I was talking to Yworro | Jul 06 04:00 |
| ender2070 | Yworo* | Jul 06 04:01 |
| ender2070 | He is a wikipedia editor, I suspect hes a friend or co worker of dildo dave | Jul 06 04:01 |
| ender2070 | I was trying to add that access pulled out of the advisory board but I couldn't source it | Jul 06 04:02 |
| ender2070 | I tried to source it to the mailing list post where dildo dave mentioned reasons | Jul 06 04:03 |
| ender2070 | he said it wasnt a reliable source, and then a bit later mentioned that dildo dave doesnt even work there anymore | Jul 06 04:04 |
| ender2070 | its on my talk page | Jul 06 04:04 |
| ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ender2070 | Jul 06 04:04 |
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| ender2070 | "Also, you seem to be behind the times, the individual you mention no longer works for ACCESS. Yworo (talk) 20:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)" | Jul 06 04:05 |
| ender2070 | How are you so sure? He still lists them on his social media profiles (Twitter, Identi.ca, his blog, linkedin), and he was bragging about being at GUADEC. Ender2070 11:33, 5 July 2010 (EST) | Jul 06 04:06 |
| ender2070 | Seems he hasn't gotten around to updating those yet. As to how I can be so sure, the man does have friends, you know... Yworo (talk) 15:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC) | Jul 06 04:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] If the choice is between Google or Apple, I wd choose Google, bc Google gives away more control http://bit.ly/blkenj | Jul 06 04:07 | |
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| ender2070 | cubezzz - have you tried Absolute Linux ? | Jul 06 04:10 |
| ender2070 | http://www.absolutelinux.org/ | Jul 06 04:12 |
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| ender2070 | Slackware + IceWM | Jul 06 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I'll just change Ubuntu's wallpaper and call it Ubuntu DaemonFC Edition | Jul 06 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | and see if I can't get me some Distrowatch space | Jul 06 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | everyone knows that Ubuntu looks like recycled shit out of the box | Jul 06 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they can go find themes, delete panels, and install AWN | Jul 06 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu Christian Edition has Dansguardian by default | Jul 06 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'd call it Ubuntu Fascist Edition | Jul 06 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | how can you make free and open source software that's designed to censor information and enable slimy unethical bastards? | Jul 06 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't that defeat the point of FOSS? To obscure and censor information? | Jul 06 04:34 |
| ender2070 | lol good point | Jul 06 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | the great thing about censorship software is when it malfunctions and starts blocking access to "Legitimate" sites | Jul 06 04:37 |
| ender2070 | thats why i dont promote ubuntu based distros | Jul 06 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | like Republican Congressman Dick Armey | Jul 06 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | blocked as a porn site :) | Jul 06 04:37 |
| ender2070 | 1) Ubuntu sucks in the first place | Jul 06 04:37 |
| ender2070 | 2) Anything based on Ubuntu IS Ubuntu | Jul 06 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | but Ubuntu is not Debian | Jul 06 04:38 |
| ender2070 | 3) They are relying on Canonical to do all their work for them | Jul 06 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | they've managed to finally break enough things to no longer be called Debian with a paint job | Jul 06 04:38 |
| ender2070 | true | Jul 06 04:38 |
| ender2070 | I might actually consider trying Linux Mint, but not if its ubuntu based | Jul 06 04:39 |
| ender2070 | I hear they want to rebase on Debian | Jul 06 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | what was funny is when they messed up XChat's default Ubuntu settings | Jul 06 04:39 |
| ender2070 | if they do ill try it | Jul 06 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | on their development branch | Jul 06 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | and it was dumping everyone testing Ubuntu into #debian | Jul 06 04:39 |
| ender2070 | rofl | Jul 06 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | whose users were not amused | Jul 06 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 04:39 |
| ender2070 | 1) Xchat sucks balls | Jul 06 04:39 |
| ender2070 | 2) Shareware sucks | Jul 06 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | XChat is not shareware | Jul 06 04:40 |
| ender2070 | yes it is | Jul 06 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't know that I'm happy calling it Free Software either | Jul 06 04:40 |
| squarepeg | irssi is my favorite | Jul 06 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | he still has everything not related to the "Idiots will pay for it" licensing code available under GPL v2 | Jul 06 04:41 |
| squarepeg | xchat isn't bad for IRC software which has a GUI | Jul 06 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | and only his "official" Windows build has the idiot enforcement code | Jul 06 04:41 |
| squarepeg | I started out with mIRC | Jul 06 04:42 |
| ender2070 | I started out with mIRC too | Jul 06 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | XChat for Windows is not difficult to crack if you don't want to use unofficial builds or compile it yourself | Jul 06 04:42 |
| ender2070 | windows 3.1 | Jul 06 04:42 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 04:42 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - another reason not to use xchat is the SLOW development | Jul 06 04:43 |
| ender2070 | I like my software to evolve | Jul 06 04:43 |
| ender2070 | to get better | Jul 06 04:43 |
| ender2070 | more features | Jul 06 04:43 |
| ender2070 | squarepeg - i like irssi too, but for GUI I prefer konversation | Jul 06 04:44 |
| ender2070 | based on Qt4, so you know it has been updated in the last 2 years | Jul 06 04:45 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 04:45 |
| sebsebseb | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10473495.stm | Jul 06 04:47 |
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| sebsebseb | Crackers (BBC are still calling them hackers :( ) target Microsoft Windows XP support system | Jul 06 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | more features than I use = bloat | Jul 06 04:49 |
| ender2070 | unlike mozilla, most devs can add features without bloat | Jul 06 04:51 |
| ender2070 | i think its highly likely there are still AOL developers in mozilla | Jul 06 04:52 |
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| DaemonFC | how is that? | Jul 06 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's not really bloated compared to other browsers | Jul 06 04:54 |
| ender2070 | really? | Jul 06 04:54 |
| ender2070 | I find it the most bloated out of all browsers | Jul 06 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | including Safari? | Jul 06 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | or IE? | Jul 06 04:55 |
| ender2070 | those dont exist to me | Jul 06 04:55 |
| ender2070 | they are non browsers | Jul 06 04:55 |
| ender2070 | with something is pervasive as a browser, I require the source code | Jul 06 04:57 |
| ender2070 | proprietary browsers in my mind are a thing of the past if you value security | Jul 06 04:57 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @crispassinato: Crispassinato agentsmith: @ender2070 KKKKKKKKKK :D: agentsmith's status http://bit.ly/ccXjMt | Jul 06 05:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | they're still running Kin ads | Jul 06 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | smother it quietly, don't get stuck with inventory! | Jul 06 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 05:04 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 05:08 |
| ender2070 | that retweet is funny | Jul 06 05:08 |
| ender2070 | he was laughing at this one: http://identi.ca/notice/39881516 | Jul 06 05:09 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act | Jul 06 05:09 |
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| DaemonFC | ugggh | Jul 06 05:09 |
| ender2070 | "on windows you only have one choice, network management from hell (hidden behind 4 menu screens)" | Jul 06 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | just shows you how a bad law can leave a lingering stench | Jul 06 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | the government spent 11 years shopping the court system trying to find a judge who would declare the thing constitutional | Jul 06 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | before the Supreme Court finally killed it | Jul 06 05:11 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] LOL People probably think i'm insane now | Jul 06 05:13 | |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 05:21 |
| ender2070 | our hate crime law was deemed unconstitutional in supreme court | Jul 06 05:21 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Predictive Programming is pernicious too, and most people have no clue what it is | Jul 06 05:23 | |
| ender2070 | oh wait | Jul 06 05:25 |
| ender2070 | not supreme court | Jul 06 05:25 |
| ender2070 | the human rights tribunal | Jul 06 05:25 |
| ender2070 | its still being faught | Jul 06 05:26 |
| ender2070 | http://blog.freedomsite.org/2010/06/canadian-free-speech-league-file-to.html | Jul 06 05:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @RHLiz: I just read that YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook are merging. It'll be called You-Twit-Face. | Jul 06 05:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @Pogue: Wow--tough-love article about how Microsoft can't seem to produce a hit gadget no matter what it does: http://nyti.ms/bxcvX0 | Jul 06 05:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070, The Christians don't like our new Hate Crimes law, because they feel it is an unconstitutional abridgment of their God-given First Amendment protected right to the expression of their feelings toward gay people. (The ones involving guns, bats, pitchforks, flaming torches, etc.). Their second grievance as near as I can tell, is that although it still allows them to verbally harass us as much as they want, who kn | Jul 06 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | ows how long it could be before the Socialist Empire of Maobama could change that? | Jul 06 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 05:38 |
| ender2070 | good point | Jul 06 05:39 |
| ender2070 | "17. The enemies of free speech always insist on moveable goalposts. Narrow here, so it defeats the accusation of overbroad legislation and broad there so it catches the Internet. Hate is equally elastic: broad enough to catch “Nazis and anti-Semites” but not too narrow to catch those who expose Muslims to “hate.”" | Jul 06 05:39 |
| ender2070 | i dont agree with you daemonfc | Jul 06 05:40 |
| ender2070 | I think its everyones right to tell others their opinions | Jul 06 05:41 |
| ender2070 | its up to those other people to ignore them | Jul 06 05:41 |
| ender2070 | i dont want to censor people because 'someone might have hurt feelings' | Jul 06 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | even with burning effigies? (which the law still allows) | Jul 06 05:42 |
| ender2070 | is that speech? | Jul 06 05:42 |
| ender2070 | I think people should have the right to be racist if they want as long as they don't physically hurt anyone | Jul 06 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | according to the courts, it is | Jul 06 05:43 |
| ender2070 | 'likely to incite hate or violence' isn't good enough | Jul 06 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | but if the Christians want to hide behind flag burners, I can deal with the ironic twist :D | Jul 06 05:43 |
| ender2070 | i dont buy that | Jul 06 05:43 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 05:44 |
| ender2070 | making it illegal to hate someone is stupid | Jul 06 05:44 |
| ender2070 | if they were really about equal rights it would be a hate crime to call someone a bigot, homophobe, etc too | Jul 06 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Jul 06 05:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | if it was illegal to hate someone | Jul 06 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd be in jail by now | Jul 06 05:46 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, it is a "protected class", and no I don't agree with it either, but the Christians enjoy hiding behind the same special treatment they demand be stricken from applying to everyone else. So let them choke on it. :) | Jul 06 05:46 |
| ender2070 | well its illegal to say something that might make someone else hate them too | Jul 06 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | TONY HAYWARD IS A JACKASS | Jul 06 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | there, arrest me you faggots | Jul 06 05:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | I _dare_ you | Jul 06 05:46 |
| ender2070 | i hate tony hayward now | Jul 06 05:47 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 05:47 |
| ender2070 | hey D3 I agree with you | Jul 06 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | If they want to repeal the Hate Crimes law, make sure they don't miss the part about "religion" | Jul 06 05:47 |
| ender2070 | its being faught in the supreme court of canada right now | Jul 06 05:48 |
| ender2070 | the human rights tribunal said it was unconstitutional too, only a matter of time now | Jul 06 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | Canada is not the United States, in Canada the legislature grants civil rights and the court tries to take them away. In the United States, the legislature typically tries to take away rights, and all the courts can usually do is interpret the Constitution to block the legislature. | Jul 06 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | Big difference | Jul 06 05:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | "psi cops! hands in the air!" "but I didnt say anything!" no... you thought it!" | Jul 06 05:49 |
| ender2070 | umm you got it backwards DaemonFC | Jul 06 05:50 |
| ender2070 | same thing happens here too | Jul 06 05:50 |
| ender2070 | hardly anyone has the money to take it to the supreme court though | Jul 06 05:50 |
| ender2070 | this mark lemire guy is a lawyer | Jul 06 05:50 |
| ender2070 | $$$ | Jul 06 05:50 |
| ender2070 | if he had my funding, he'd be in jail right now | Jul 06 05:51 |
| ender2070 | "19. After Section 13(1) was extended to the Internet, Ernst Zündel was prosecuted for Ingrid Rimland’s website in the United States of America. Thus we saw the Tribunal given the power to regulate foreign websites because a Canadian resident might be the subject of it and possibly have provided some information for it. The fact that Parliament, as part of the anti-terrorism legislation, extended | Jul 06 05:51 |
| ender2070 | Section 13(1) to the Internet is highly relevant to a Section 1 analysis. The Taylor case made it clear that a Section 1 analysis was necessary. The Tribunal in the Zündel v. Citron case recognized that fact but failed to do a proper analysis, excluded proper evidence, and was never subject to judicial review on the merits." | Jul 06 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | People like to scream "activist judge" every time the courts block the hateful incendiary crap that usually flies out of the US legislature, but I find that the judges are typically there to ensure that the law gets enforced the way it was written instead of the way a group of random hotheads with a religious vendetta against everyone else would like to see them apply | Jul 06 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | *Constitutional law that is | Jul 06 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | You also get the crazies that don't like this Constitutional amendment or the other one, without realizing that when the states ratified the constitution, they also agreed to accept revisions to it within the established process. A state may refuse to ratify an amendment, but if the amendment passes, they are still bound by it. The Southern states probably didn't like the 14th Amendment too much, especially due to the Inc | Jul 06 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | orporation Clause (Federal Bill of Rights is now the law of the land wherever you live). If they can't accept that as part of the Constitution, then the only option they have is to go about repealing it with the overwhelming support of more civilized states. (Good luck) | Jul 06 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | See, the more heavily Christian a state is (or evangelical), the more depressed their economy also is. And you don't have to accept my word for it, look at the list of states from most religious to least and then look at the Gross State Product of each one. | Jul 06 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's because Christians are trying to ban things like science class and are also trying to rewrite US History to serve their own interests. | Jul 06 05:59 |
| ender2070 | everyone is trying to rewrite US history | Jul 06 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | Scientology cultists really do damage society less than Christians (and this is my opinion), because I believe that even though there is no stupidity threshold preventing Scientology from gaining as many subscribers, the Christians demand less "material support" | Jul 06 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | You don't see classrooms in danger of elevating the story of Xenu, the Galactic Confederation, the prisoners, the volcanos they were dropped into, the hydrogen bombs that were dropped on the volcanoes, and the body thetans that live in all of us to Science class material. | Jul 06 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | Hail Xenu, baby! | Jul 06 06:04 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 06:04 |
| ender2070 | scientologists put out a very good documentary against psychology | Jul 06 06:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | no they dont. | Jul 06 06:04 |
| ender2070 | psychiatry - industry of death | Jul 06 06:05 |
| ender2070 | they stayed on topic without trying to convert people | Jul 06 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3> no they dont. | Jul 06 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | I agree. The Scientologists want you to stop subscribing to the corrupt Psychiatric Industrial Complex and start subscribing to Scientology, which is not only corrupt, but bat shit crazy as well. :) | Jul 06 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Psychiatry = Corrupt institution based loosely on Scientific Method. Scientology = Corrupt institution based entirely on the barbiturate and alcohol-induced ramblings of a mediocre Science Fiction writer. | Jul 06 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'll go with the guys that are simply corrupt, I don't have time for that other shit. :D | Jul 06 06:09 |
| ender2070 | yeah daemon thats what I was thinking | Jul 06 06:11 |
| ender2070 | demonize corrupt psych, to promote corrupt dianetics | Jul 06 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I thought about starting my own Get Rich Quick religion that doubles as a tax shelter, Ryantology and the book of Ryanetics. | Jul 06 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | How's that sound? B-) | Jul 06 06:13 |
| ender2070 | ROFL | Jul 06 06:14 |
| ender2070 | sounds funny | Jul 06 06:14 |
| ender2070 | add in some bullshit about the origin of humans | Jul 06 06:14 |
| ender2070 | throw in some rules | Jul 06 06:14 |
| ender2070 | and bam | Jul 06 06:14 |
| ender2070 | religion (or cult) | Jul 06 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Only instead of the space aliens coming here on ships that look like DC-9s, I think mine are going to resemble the C5-Galaxy, because those look like more of a cargo plane that was built to last to me. The DC-9 deal just doesn't add up. "This is your Galactic Overlord speaking, we've arrived at Earth 3 hours late, will those of you not barfing from food poisoning please exit the spacecraft now? Nuke you very much!" | Jul 06 06:16 |
| ender2070 | nah man | Jul 06 06:17 |
| ender2070 | they should resemble the X-Wing | Jul 06 06:17 |
| ender2070 | or the Y-Wing | Jul 06 06:17 |
| ender2070 | or just any ship from star wars | Jul 06 06:18 |
| ender2070 | maybe the enterprise from star trek | Jul 06 06:18 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 06:18 |
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| DaemonFC | nah, The Galaxy can hold like 500 fire trucks or something (I was watching the documentary when I was half-asleep and the cat was blocking part of the screen). Sounds like you could pack all the Galactic Confederation's prisoners in one of those suckers. Size beats quantity. | Jul 06 06:28 |
| ender2070 | oh shite | Jul 06 06:29 |
| ender2070 | "The way section 13 has been interpreted and is now functioning indicates the danger of the section. Dean Stacey and Harvey Goldberg, by their own evidence, have communication with the Canadian police authorities. The Canadian police authorities have powers of search and seizure of computer hard drives under Section 319(2) of the Canadian Criminal Code. Once seized by the police, the Commission requests copies of the | Jul 06 06:29 |
| ender2070 | hard drive and claim exemption under privacy law as an exempt organization. The police deliver the hard drives as they desire to help the Commission." | Jul 06 06:29 |
| ender2070 | that is corrupt to the core | Jul 06 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | Bitlocker | Jul 06 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 06:30 |
| ender2070 | you dont think it has backdoors? | Jul 06 06:31 |
| ender2070 | it does | Jul 06 06:31 |
| ender2070 | I remember the dude at MS wanted to keep backdoors out but couldn't, I read that somewhere | Jul 06 06:31 |
| ender2070 | I could be wrong but im probably not, ms can't make anything without backdoors (even unintentionally) | Jul 06 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, the funny thing about law enforcement is that they wouldn't gloat about cracking right through it even if it does. It would tend to make criminals feel insecure about using it. :) | Jul 06 06:32 |
| ender2070 | the fbi was using clusters of ps3s to break into truecrypt protected encryption | Jul 06 06:32 |
| ender2070 | encyption is moot anyways | Jul 06 06:33 |
| ender2070 | if the crime is serious enough the NSA or RCMP will just run it through their quantum computers | Jul 06 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | *doesn't | Jul 06 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | The government likes confident criminals you know. Just like it likes confident slave workers. Where do you figure the self-esteem movement came from? | Jul 06 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 06:35 |
| *ender2070 is listening to Air Strike (Pop Killer) by Canibus on Canibus-Melatonin.Magik-(Retail.Studio)-2010-[NoFS] [Amarok2] | Jul 06 06:35 | |
| ender2070 | the eminem diss | Jul 06 06:35 |
| ender2070 | "Hey i'm white, can I be in D12?" | Jul 06 06:36 |
| ender2070 | lolz | Jul 06 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | confident criminals don't bother to make sure they hide their illegal activities | Jul 06 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | makes them easier to prosecute later | Jul 06 06:36 |
| ender2070 | yeah true | Jul 06 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | ignorant criminals don't realize they've been compromised (Bitlocker) | Jul 06 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | and continue as if nobody is watching | Jul 06 06:37 |
| ender2070 | they probably log into facebook from the same IP | Jul 06 06:37 |
| ender2070 | lol reminds me of an actual raid I was in recently | Jul 06 06:37 |
| ender2070 | wrong place at the wrong time | Jul 06 06:38 |
| ender2070 | the people who lived there had facebook open, the cop closed it for the girl but I suggested she update the status first | Jul 06 06:38 |
| ender2070 | 'currently under arrest' | Jul 06 06:38 |
| ender2070 | lolz | Jul 06 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Confidence and Ignorance are the Prosecutor's best friends | Jul 06 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, No, I don't ignore hate speech and idiots, as much as I would sometimes like to. To ignore something doesn't make the problem go away, you just lose track of what that problem is up to. (Going back to the hate speech topic.) Besides, if hate speech was illegal, I couldn't say that Christians are assholes and they make me wish there is a hell if only to see them there. | Jul 06 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and even if there are no bugs in Bitlocker and Microsoft didn't give the government a backdoor, it's nothing that flying you to Cuba and working you over with drugs and a $5 wrench wouldn't fix. | Jul 06 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBI-29y7_oc | Jul 06 06:52 |
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| ender2070 | its probably cheaper just to use their quantum computers | Jul 06 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I am bored | Jul 06 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | I just sat here and put in sound effects for everything on my phone | Jul 06 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Cylon sound effects | Jul 06 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 06 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | "Message sent...By your command" | Jul 06 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 06:57 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] This is sort of nonsense we are up against. "Why Open Source Stalls Innovation and Patents Advance It" http://cli.gs/ynnen !fs !techrights | Jul 06 06:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQwty8RKHBk&feature=related | Jul 06 07:03 |
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| DaemonFC | to be fair, I did save a lot of money with Geico :) | Jul 06 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I'm redoing Human After All by Daft Punk | Jul 06 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | as a ringtone | Jul 06 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 06 07:11 |
| ender2070 | im thinking of writing some books for profit | Jul 06 07:12 |
| ender2070 | political ones im thinking | Jul 06 07:13 |
| ender2070 | far right or far left? | Jul 06 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I did switch to the Paranoid blocklist | Jul 06 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | anti-P2P groups are getting more crotchedy | Jul 06 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 07:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Still Sponsors Blogs That Praise Its Work, Lobbies Governments, Takes Over School Districts http://ur1.ca/0k3m1 | Jul 06 07:42 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @openuniverse: rt @osamak my humble suggestion is to call all proprietary culture "piracy" | Jul 06 08:28 | |
| ender2070 | http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/184932/Councils-use-bugs-in-lampposts-to-eavesdrop-on-you | Jul 06 08:34 |
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| ender2070 | gotta love big brother | Jul 06 08:34 |
| ender2070 | _goblin must be creaming in his pants | Jul 06 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | oh cool | Jul 06 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | online police scanner | Jul 06 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jul 06 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | either it's not working or this town is as interesting as an Amish bachelor party | Jul 06 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | ender, I did find a OEM setup menu on my phone B-) | Jul 06 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | it works | Jul 06 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | the scanner that is | Jul 06 08:42 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070, 5150, 11-99, 23110 | Jul 06 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | I think that means there's a mental case throwing rocks at cars and I need backup | Jul 06 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I'm watching a thing on police license plate scanners | Jul 06 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | I put a see through cover on my license plate that blocks cameras from photographing it | Jul 06 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 09:01 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, an officer came on duty and he's going to the diner | Jul 06 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | this is real edge of your seat stuff | Jul 06 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 06 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | a stalker | Jul 06 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | approaching from Fort Wayne | Jul 06 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | possibly has a gun | Jul 06 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | he's in a silver SUV | Jul 06 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, North Carolina plate | Jul 06 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | his name is Ronald | Jul 06 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | and he's 35 years old | Jul 06 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | they pulled over the wrong person | Jul 06 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | way to go guys | Jul 06 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10514367.stm | Jul 06 09:42 |
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| DaemonFC | "BBC News has learnt that the Government has spent tens of thousands of pounds developing iPhone applications." | Jul 06 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 09:42 |
| MinceR | j0 | Jul 06 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | and it was all so MinceR could enjoy them on his favoritist phone ever | Jul 06 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 09:42 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: hypePhone apps don't run on the n97 | Jul 06 09:43 |
| *DaemonFC knows MinceR has an iPhone 4g | Jul 06 09:43 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the n97 is not a hypePhone 4g | Jul 06 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and after spending an hour looking for their suspect they pulled him over, couldn't charge him with anything | Jul 06 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | and told him he needed to trade in his Michigan drivers license because he's been living in Indiana for more than 6 months | Jul 06 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | well, this certainly sounds like a productive use of police time | Jul 06 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do you figure there's a practical reason for forcing you to trade in one state drivers license for another? | Jul 06 09:46 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jul 06 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'd kind of like to have an Arizona license, personally | Jul 06 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | those don't expire until you turn 65 | Jul 06 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | then you have to renew every 4 years | Jul 06 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | I still have one of the old Indiana drivers licenses | Jul 06 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | before they turned it into the Federal ID | Jul 06 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have to trade it in until April of 2012 | Jul 06 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | unless I move | Jul 06 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I noticed they were careful not to refer to them as domestic passports | Jul 06 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | or anything horrible like that | Jul 06 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | you can just get arrested for walking into a federal building without one after 2011 | Jul 06 09:49 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 09:49 |
| MinceR | what a fucking police state | Jul 06 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They had to pare back the first law they passed | Jul 06 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | REAL ID | Jul 06 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | because lots of states were passing laws forbidding their state government from implementing it | Jul 06 09:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 06 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act#State_adoption_and_non-compliance | Jul 06 09:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Washington have joined Maine and Utah in passing legislation opposing Real ID.[36][37][38][39][40] | Jul 06 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | Similar resolutions are pending in Alaska, Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.[41] | Jul 06 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana hopped right on board | Jul 06 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | even though we had to pay for the entire thing | Jul 06 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | we have former Bush cabinet members running the state government | Jul 06 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's a mess | Jul 06 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | we rush to comply with is and spend millions of dollars | Jul 06 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | then half the states forbid their agencies from complying with it | Jul 06 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | the federal government has been issuing those states "waivers" indefinitely | Jul 06 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | so many states are refusing it that the "You can't board a plane or enter a federal building" part keeps getting pushed back | Jul 06 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | it was supposed to go into effect in 2009 | Jul 06 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | and if they try to force the states to implement it, they'll have at least a couple dozen states sue them to block it | Jul 06 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, When I say jump, you better say "How high?" | Jul 06 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | But to help you comply with this new requirement, I am empowered to grant infinite waivers | Jul 06 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a nice person | Jul 06 09:56 |
| MinceR | when you say "jump", i say "no" | Jul 06 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't hear you say no | Jul 06 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | and issue you another waiver | Jul 06 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | see how this works? | Jul 06 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | possible drunk driver | Jul 06 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | on State Road 26 | Jul 06 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | weaving between lanes | Jul 06 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Jul 06 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | come to find out it's going to be an old person ans the cop lets them run along to mow over some school kids | Jul 06 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 10:01 |
| MinceR | birth control! | Jul 06 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Jul 06 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You can't take their license away, even if they are senile and doped up on pain pills | Jul 06 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | even if their eyesight is 20/600 | Jul 06 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | that wouldn't be fair | Jul 06 10:04 |
| oiaohm | I wish I had the link there is a scarry one being worked on a car a fully blind person can drive. | Jul 06 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They have those, they're called Cadillacs | Jul 06 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | and they have 6 liter V8 engines | Jul 06 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | old ladies drive 20 miles per hour to church in them | Jul 06 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=SB&docno=0233 | Jul 06 10:17 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 06 10:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @gbraad just noticed that Jared Smith, the new #Fedora Project Leader has an account on Identi.ca: @jsmith | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Happy Birthday Dalai Lama - http://bit.ly/bBcAJc I wonder what present the Chinese government have given you? #ribet #china | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] WD12 on ACTA: It's the Final Countdown! - http://bit.ly/cGyVwL time to get on the dog and bone #acta #eu | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] EU May Force Flash Onto Apple Products - http://bit.ly/bMYCVA weak article: doesn't understand competition in ecosystems #interoperability | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Useless and adds no #interoperability ♺ @glynmoody: EU May Force Flash Onto Apple Products - http://bit.ly/bMYCVA weak article | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Kookaburra gets last laugh in Men At Work case - http://bit.ly/biHWax plagiarism or homage? (via @skwashd) #copyright #australia | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @opensourcerer I loved this: "#Microsoft Success Stories" #FAIL on all counts. ROTFL http://twitpic.com/22vlmh >>amusing | Jul 06 10:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Woot To The AP: Nice Story About Our Sale — You Now Owe Us $17.50 - http://tcrn.ch/bLVqGk kudos to #Woot, the opposite to #AP | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Iran declares war on mullets, ponytails for men; approves of hair gel and Elvis 'dos - http://bit.ly/cXtBgI you can't make this stuff up | Jul 06 10:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Biocep R Project Brings Open Science to the Cloud - http://bit.ly/b5paSH "How will we analyze all this data?" #data #r #cloudcomputing | Jul 06 10:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] iRail is back - http://bit.ly/cu6uHR fighting for open data in #Belgium #trains #opendata | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Overbite Project brings Gopher protocol to Android - http://bit.ly/ae5WGK wow, a blast from the past #gopher #android | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What if Open Source took over the world... the offline world? - http://bit.ly/cOBcNs and what "abundance" really means #opensource #analogue | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The UK Census - http://bit.ly/dnJ61p still hugely intrusive. so, what's the best way to mess it up: fiction or refusal? (via @bbw1984) | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What's so bad about the biggest Gulf spill ever? - http://bit.ly/ai1eHH these people are unbelievable #oil #spill | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @DaHammerstein @nacionred El Reino Unido se desmarca de ACTA atacando a la UE y EEUU por criminalizar a los usuarios http://bit.ly/aDTjZR | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Matt Ebb leaves Blender development - http://bit.ly/dgZx0U what he's been up to #blender | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] China's population rapidly moving to cities, getting old - http://bit.ly/adLRdb some interesting times coming #china #demographics | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Yeah! @doctorow For The Win just arrived. #need2read will have to wait till this evening. | Jul 06 10:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] 10 Rules For Radicals – Open Data - http://bit.ly/adIWuI "Rule 8: Get them to threaten you." #opendata | Jul 06 10:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] living handbook of narratology - http://bit.ly/cGGZbj mostly incomprehensible to normal humans, but #openaccess | Jul 06 10:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=SB&docno=0384 | Jul 06 10:46 |
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| DaemonFC | Cloud computing security. Requires the regulatory flexibility committee to study cloud computing and report to the general assembly by November 1, 2011. | Jul 06 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 06 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=HB&docno=1326 | Jul 06 10:53 |
| Techrights | Title: Indiana General Assembly .::. Size~: 20.02 KB | Jul 06 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | Specifies that a registered sex offender who enters a public library commits a Class D felony. Provides a defense for limited entry on an election day for the purpose of voting. | Jul 06 10:53 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] "I can do all my image editing in Linux without compromise" The death of the MS photoshop argument. !fs !linux !floss ! foss !techrights | Jul 06 11:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] And so are America, Australia and New Zealand, btw. It's called "Social Darwinism". RT @WorldPeace2Day: Israel a state founded on Terrorism | Jul 06 11:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @opensourcerer I loved this: "#Microsoft Success Stories" #FAIL on all counts. ROTFL http://twitpic.com/22vlmh | Jul 06 11:38 | |
| Techrights | Title: I loved this: "#Microsoft Success Stories" #FAIL on all count... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 10.22 KB | Jul 06 11:38 |
| schestowitz | Hi, MadRobot | Jul 06 11:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/05/lg-confirms-android-tablet-for-q4-2010-launch-teases-android-2/ | Jul 06 12:07 |
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| DaemonFC | lots of drunks out this morning | Jul 06 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/05/2063748/invasive-asian-carp-advancing.html | Jul 06 12:14 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Those damned fish are spreading | Jul 06 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | the government is paralyzed because some lobbyists want the government to put in barriers or close off canals leading to the great lakes | Jul 06 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | other lobbyists (tourism) are spending lots of money bribing the other half of the politicians to do nothing | Jul 06 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Oh... | Jul 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Overfishing? | Jul 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz | I haven't quite read it yet | Jul 06 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Jul 06 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | exotic invader that the government introduced in the 1970s | Jul 06 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_carps#Invasive_Species_Status_in_North_America | Jul 06 12:20 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, Wikipedia says earlier than that even, lots earlier | Jul 06 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | all the way back to the 1800s | Jul 06 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Ah.. | Jul 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Cyprinus carpio | Jul 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Phil Jackson still around? http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Why-won-t-the-Lakers-pay-Phil-Jackson-;_ylt=AjfKWsfpCADNh321qrpnHDbYrYZ4?urn=nba,252342 | Jul 06 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | "the glory of Ubuntu, was his "deodorant" quote. " | Jul 06 12:22 |
| schestowitz | :-| | Jul 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Not the first time the government has idiotically introduced something that doesn't belong here that's now taking over | Jul 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Kudzu vine stops soil erosion (then moves on to eat thousands of trees) | Jul 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_Vine#United_States | Jul 06 12:23 |
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| MadRobot | schestowitz: Hello, Dr. Roy. | Jul 06 12:24 |
| schestowitz | How is it going? | Jul 06 12:24 |
| cubezzz | Kudzu is in fedora too :) | Jul 06 12:24 |
| cubezzz | I guess that's they got the name | Jul 06 12:25 |
| cubezzz | that's where they | Jul 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | [11:05] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [omar_s_hafez] And so are America, Australia and New Zealand, btw. It's called "Social Darwinism". RT @WorldPeace2Day: Israel a state founded on Terrorism | Jul 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | True | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was subsequently discovered that the southeastern US has near-perfect conditions for kudzu to grow out of control — hot, humid summers, frequent rainfall, temperate winters with few hard freezes...and no natural predators. As such, the once-promoted plant was named a pest weed by the United States Department of Agriculture in 1953. | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | What we need to work towards is making a Palestinian state at some stage. it's only fair | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | and give them lots of Kudzu | Jul 06 12:25 |
| MinceR | no, what we need to work towards is the lack of states | Jul 06 12:25 |
| MinceR | that's fair | Jul 06 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | tell them it's....exotic | Jul 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I guess right-wing zealots won't let it be cause they can't compromise | Jul 06 12:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that point too... | Jul 06 12:26 |
| MadRobot | compromise? | Jul 06 12:26 |
| MinceR | "i can learn to compromise / anything but my desires" | Jul 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, things like annexation won't belong there | Jul 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: so-called settlers (invaders) need to butt out | Jul 06 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Kudzu has naturalized into about 20,000 to 30,000 square kilometers (7,700–12,000 sq mi) of land in the United States and costs around $500 million annually in lost cropland and control costs.[24]" | Jul 06 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | They must be using 'holy books' to justify what they are doing | Jul 06 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | and again, oops | Jul 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, MinceR is right | Jul 06 12:26 |
| schestowitz | It's better to just set aside dogmas and eventually just have no borders other than the only natural ones (continents) | Jul 06 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kudzu_on_trees_in_Atlanta,_Georgia.jpg | Jul 06 12:27 |
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| schestowitz | Likewise, people need to learn to share, not hog | Jul 06 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | Kudzu is a pest | Jul 06 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | it climbs trees and blocks out their sunlight | Jul 06 12:28 |
| schestowitz | People's instincts work against that sadly | Jul 06 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | Kudzu can't grow where I'm at thankfully | Jul 06 12:29 |
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| DaemonFC | "In the Southern United States, kudzu is used to make soaps, lotions, jelly, and compost.[17] It has even been suggested that kudzu may become a valuable asset for the production of cellulosic ethanol.[18]" | Jul 06 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Exotic plant becomes pest weed becomes fuel for your car | Jul 06 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | hooray! | Jul 06 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You remember that episode of Stargate SG-1 where they bring back that fast growing plant? | Jul 06 12:31 |
| MinceR | and it detects your hardware | Jul 06 12:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't watch it | Jul 06 12:31 |
| DaemonFC | they bring back a plant that grows rapidly to try and study it to see if they can "solve world hunger" | Jul 06 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | eventually they find out that it feeds off any heat, light, or electricity it comes in contact with | Jul 06 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | eventually the plant takes over the base and they can't stop it from growing because it's grown outside and if any part of it is exposed to light, it feeds the rest of the plant | Jul 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | I think they were making fun of the Kudzu problem | Jul 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | paying people to hack it down and use it to make ethanol with is the bet idea I've heard so far | Jul 06 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | they're paying $500 million a year to try killing *enough* of it with chemicals to keep it out of crops anyway | Jul 06 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | why not pay people to go out there, hack it down, and ferment it into fuel alcohol? :) | Jul 06 12:35 |
| schestowitz | World hunger can never be solved | Jul 06 12:36 |
| schestowitz | If you make more food, more people are made | Jul 06 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They need to stop paying unemployment claims | Jul 06 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | and hire hundreds of thousands of people to go hack down Kudzu | Jul 06 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 12:36 |
| schestowitz | So where you cross the line is where death becomes intolerable or too great to feed a new generation | Jul 06 12:36 |
| MinceR | so people need to be destroyed | Jul 06 12:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: same with those fees | Jul 06 12:36 |
| schestowitz | As you say, if people are paid to be dormant, they will be | Jul 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz | Permanently | Jul 06 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, yep | Jul 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz | If people are given food to feed their kid, they'll have another kid | Jul 06 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Jul 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz | If you tip a blogger, he'll shill for you | Jul 06 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | so what made you decide to see it that way? | Jul 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz | That's why Microsoft bribing bloggers is not a reward | Jul 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz | It's an invitation for more | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not destroyed | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | There is no goals | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | *goal | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | It's like saying you should treat them as parasites | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Head lice in the head of Earth | Jul 06 12:38 |
| MinceR | which many of them are | Jul 06 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How it works is....woman has kids by one or more men...the taxpayers get to subsizide her rent, give the family food stamps, and pay all tuition fees for her kids to attent public school | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | As one person put tit ^^^ | Jul 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz | *it | Jul 06 12:39 |
| MinceR | tit! | Jul 06 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | the woman doesn't have to work because their father(s) are paying child support | Jul 06 12:39 |
| oiaohm | Google is quite good at bribing bloggers as well. | Jul 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz | [12:38] <MinceR> which many of them are | Jul 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz | no, few | Jul 06 12:39 |
| oiaohm | Invite for free food | Jul 06 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | if they stop paying the bitch, they are thrown in prison | Jul 06 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | on top of all this, she gets TANF too, there's another $500 a month from tax payers | Jul 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz | tiny minority is even at the level of having modern life | Jul 06 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | you tell me why she is inclined to stop making babies | Jul 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, Google too, but not to the same extent | Jul 06 12:40 |
| schestowitz | They did send some Android phones to bloggers/vloggers | Jul 06 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There are actually a few cases where women pay child support and the men have the kids | Jul 06 12:40 |
| schestowitz | That's like a bribe | Jul 06 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's rare that both happen | Jul 06 12:40 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned it here last week | Jul 06 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | The judge either gives her the kids and orders the man to pay child support | Jul 06 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | or the man gets the kids and no support at all from the woman | Jul 06 12:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: doesn't prove that the rest aren't parasites | Jul 06 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | put together, one of those two things will happen 95% of the time | Jul 06 12:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they do what the DNA tells them | Jul 06 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | the courts still treat women like they are helpless | Jul 06 12:41 |
| schestowitz | If they didn't, they would fall out of the loop | Jul 06 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | even though they get great jobs at same or higher rate than men | Jul 06 12:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: even that would be preferable to what they're really doing | Jul 06 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | yet men are still supposed to break their balls so that the woman that divorced them and took the kids doesn't have to work | Jul 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no... | Jul 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz | The point is, those who try to conserve Earth go extinct | Jul 06 12:42 |
| MinceR | unless we improve our methods | Jul 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Those who expend thrives in terms of growth | Jul 06 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You tell me what the great idea is behind marriage and kids. | Jul 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Earth rewards for detrimental behaviour, nor prudence | Jul 06 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | What does it do for the man? | Jul 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's like in TV | Jul 06 12:43 |
| MinceR | there's no great idea behind marriage, it's a stupid idea\ | Jul 06 12:43 |
| MinceR | s/.$// | Jul 06 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | The man just never hears the end of the "Give me more handouts" crap | Jul 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Two-story home, green laws, invisible 3-year mortgage | Jul 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz | *lawn | Jul 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Or even 30-yar mortgage | Jul 06 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Indiana is a "no-fault" divorce state | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | each state has rules you see | Jul 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz | [12:43] <DaemonFC> What does it do for the man? | Jul 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Peer acceptance, adherence to average | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | in some states, if the woman screws around on you, it affects whether she gets the kids | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | or alimony | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | or child support | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | here it doesn't | Jul 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | she can do whatever nasty things she wants and the state of Indiana says the divorce is equally your faulkt | Jul 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz | Kids...... | Jul 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz | I know some parents who act like kids... | Jul 06 12:45 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 06 12:45 |
| MinceR | most humans do | Jul 06 12:45 |
| schestowitz | They think like them too | Jul 06 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | in some states, a jury decides what he'll get, if anything | Jul 06 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | in Indiana, the judge pretty much gives her the kids, alimony, child support, and half your stuff | Jul 06 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Difference is, kids grow up, get knocked up, and move to Detroit with the junkie :-) | Jul 06 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | you have to prove she's an axe murderer beyond reasonable doubt | Jul 06 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | or the best you can hope for is shared custody | Jul 06 12:46 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: where is divorce conducted? in the state where the marriage happened or wherever they happen to be at the time of divorce? | Jul 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: online? :-) | Jul 06 12:46 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: hur hur | Jul 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz | You can retreive the passport | Jul 06 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, One of you has to be a legal resident of the state where you apply for the divorce | Jul 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz | If you forgot it since the marriage | Jul 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz | You can untick the box and read the ToS | Jul 06 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | Many people wanting an easy divorce will sneak off one day | Jul 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz | But.. it has high charges if you change your mind later | Jul 06 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | and live in Indiana for six months | Jul 06 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | so they can petition our court system to dissolve their marriage | Jul 06 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:47 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's just one more reason not to marry | Jul 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: how old are you? | Jul 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz | 26ish? | Jul 06 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, states have to recognize contracts from another state, it's constitutional law | Jul 06 12:48 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: 27 | Jul 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | the feds passed an unconstitutional statute law that says states don't have to recognize same sex marriages done in another state | Jul 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Well, so you have like 2 decade to change your mind if you ever choose to | Jul 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | and they are currently observing that | Jul 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | so it's "full faith and credit" (unless we say it's not) | Jul 06 12:49 |
| schestowitz | It's weird to think our parents and grandparents would have had like 3 kids by the time they are 27 | Jul 06 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | if not more | Jul 06 12:49 |
| *DaemonFC cringes | Jul 06 12:49 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: your water broke? | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Number of kids I have: 0 | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Number of kids I will ever have: 0 | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Probability: 100% | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | Praise White Jesus | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | White Jesus doesn't like his followers much | Jul 06 12:51 |
| MinceR | Monochrome Jesus? | Jul 06 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | White Jesus tells them to give hundreds of dollars a month to a church | Jul 06 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | White Jesus tells them to have many many kids | Jul 06 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | and live in poverty and spend all their money and some of the state's to raise them | Jul 06 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | White Jesus has exiled me to the magical land where I keep my money, don't have to deal with a spouse, and never have to spend a moment worrying about what one of my kids has done now | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | woe is me | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | Praise White Jesus | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | maybe some day he'll let me become poverty stricken and supporting 4-5 kids and a wife | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | maybe he's "fix" me so I want that | Jul 06 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 12:53 |
| schestowitz | http://androinica.com/2010/07/01/htc-hd2-given-new-life-with-android-2-1-and-ubuntu-video/ | Jul 06 12:54 |
| Techrights | Title: HTC HD2 Given New Life With Android 2.1 and Ubuntu (Video) | jorge | Androinica .::. Size~: 69.03 KB | Jul 06 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | *he'll | Jul 06 12:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good for you | Jul 06 12:54 |
| schestowitz | But don't expect sects to relate | Jul 06 12:54 |
| schestowitz | There are two type IMHO: | Jul 06 12:54 |
| schestowitz | 1) those to whom score in life is # of offsprings | Jul 06 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, All I can do is pray that some day I have my wages garnished to support triplets after the bitch told me she was on the pill | Jul 06 12:55 |
| schestowitz | 2) those to whom score in life is bank balance | Jul 06 12:55 |
| schestowitz | The former type usually is the religious type | Jul 06 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | and I can be JUST like every other male in this town :) | Jul 06 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | joy! | Jul 06 12:55 |
| schestowitz | The latter seeks to satisfy a chain in families to whom fulfilment is defined in similar terms | Jul 06 12:55 |
| schestowitz | In religious nations welfare will be better | Jul 06 12:55 |
| schestowitz | This permits benefit to the class that increases population size, which in turn makes it easier (short-term) to pay back national debt/deficit | Jul 06 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | Teabaggers supposedly want less handouts | Jul 06 12:56 |
| schestowitz | The US is a religious nation | Jul 06 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Canada is equally religious | Jul 06 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | Australia isn't far behind | Jul 06 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Probably one of the most religious in the West, so this expansion made massive debt | Jul 06 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Now look at Sweden or Germany | Jul 06 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | Canada came into contact with the US and caught Baptism, Mormons, Scientologists | Jul 06 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's like VD | Jul 06 12:57 |
| schestowitz | More conservative in growth rates and less deep in the debt well | Jul 06 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | the US caught Catholicism from Europe and it mutated into worse things | Jul 06 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | and spread back out into the world in those forms | Jul 06 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz | The Republicans lie about their nation | Jul 06 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, No Western government is stable | Jul 06 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | some are just more incredibly screwed than others | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz | The constitution ("just a document") mentioned nothing about religon | Jul 06 12:58 |
| schestowitz | It was an escape from such prosecutions | Jul 06 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It says something about religion | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | But Palin the Genius tells lies | Jul 06 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | keep it to yourself | Jul 06 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Like "our nation was founded on God..." | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | They lie like this and repeat it until people may actually believe it | Jul 06 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Free Exercise clause followed by Establishment Clause = Do whatever you want, but don't force me into it | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Many countries are actually religious | Jul 06 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | which I pretty much agree with | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | But the US was originally more secular in principle | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Now watch what Texas does to edu material | Jul 06 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Some countries are explicitly racial | Jul 06 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, it's funny you should say that | Jul 06 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Like they say, "we are the <Race> state" | Jul 06 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | as Europe grows more and more towards the far right | Jul 06 13:00 |
| schestowitz | But religion is common too | Jul 06 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Like they say, "we are the <religion_name> state" | Jul 06 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How about this? | Jul 06 13:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Wow, @linuxfund is following me. Thinking to become a rich persons now ;) | Jul 06 13:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @DaHammerstein: UK questions criminal measures on P2P in ACTA! http://bit.ly/damMBs | Jul 06 13:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] On the way to alternative law forum | Jul 06 13:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Nations are not a homogeneous blob | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: far right in Europe? | Jul 06 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | The people change over time | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz | I think we become more tolerant | Jul 06 13:01 |
| MinceR | nations don't exist | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Tolerant towards other religions, sexuality, sciences.. | Jul 06 13:01 |
| MinceR | genetic material has been mixed intensively for a long time already | Jul 06 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | If this carries on borders will be made historical only | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | But it won't solve many world problems | Jul 06 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm from Indiana, when is the last time someone from Indiana quit bathing, grew a 3 foot long unkempt beard, strapped a bomb on themselves, and blew up some school kids | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | People congregate in groups | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | FOSS too has many community for example | Jul 06 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | all I can say is I'm glad we're not Muslims | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | And it's not a nation | Jul 06 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | it could be worse | Jul 06 13:02 |
| schestowitz | Christianity has many 'branches' | Jul 06 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Each vying for power | Jul 06 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | it happens in Muslim countries with alarming frequency | Jul 06 13:03 |
| schestowitz | ANd then you have segregation in nations | Jul 06 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Or world | Jul 06 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Quebec... Texas... | Jul 06 13:03 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but you could be Muslim | Jul 06 13:04 |
| schestowitz | You can convert | Jul 06 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason that US Muslims aren't radical and imposing Sharia Law and talking openly about wanting to murder others is because they're about 1.5% of the population | Jul 06 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I could too, MinceR as well... | Jul 06 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | they know their damned place | Jul 06 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Islam is a dogma | Jul 06 13:04 |
| schestowitz | It's like "believing in climate" | Jul 06 13:04 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, religions can be mocked | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | People can change them | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | It's not sex/race | Jul 06 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Islam is by far the most vile, contemptible pile of shit I've ever seen | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Employers too can be mocked | Jul 06 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | far surpassing even other religions | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Mark Shuttleworth was dishonest | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | He compares working to a company to being of a certain gender/race | Jul 06 13:05 |
| schestowitz | As if people are born with IBM/BP/Microsoft DNA | Jul 06 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | People aren't generally born wanting to hurt other people | Jul 06 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | money or religion ends up having them do it later on | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you talk about the radicals thoug | Jul 06 13:06 |
| schestowitz | What was that cult McVeigh was avenging for? | Jul 06 13:06 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: clams want to hurt other people too | Jul 06 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | McVeigh, heh | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | neo-Nazis | Jul 06 13:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: You obviously didn't watch Little Mermaid! | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | he was executed in Terre Haute B-) | Jul 06 13:07 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: not those clams :> | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | yay, I live in the state that executed McVeigh | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | go Indiana! | Jul 06 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | we should have hanged him | Jul 06 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | but oh well | Jul 06 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | he's gone | Jul 06 13:08 |
| schestowitz | This new video suggests something else: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lg6Q_xRII0&feature=digest | Jul 06 13:08 |
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| DaemonFC | but you can see where the system failed | Jul 06 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about it till I watched it | Jul 06 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | his partner Terry Nichols is still alive and in prison | Jul 06 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | in exchange for squealing on McVeigh | Jul 06 13:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: cushy prison, eh? | Jul 06 13:09 |
| schestowitz | They should send him to BP | Jul 06 13:09 |
| schestowitz | He could work as methane detector | Jul 06 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Convicts view prison as favorable to death | Jul 06 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious | Jul 06 13:09 |
| schestowitz | They meet like-minded people | Jul 06 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Getting sympathy | Jul 06 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise they wouldn't give the government shit when they come and say "Hey, work with us and you can rot in prison instead of dying quickly and painlessly" | Jul 06 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Madoff tells fellow crooks how it's his victims' fault | Jul 06 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | it is | Jul 06 13:10 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jul 06 13:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @sagarun Microsoft's anti-competitive behavior is well documented here by #ECIS: http://bit.ly/dbMYsR [pdf] quite a read! | Jul 06 13:11 | |
| DaemonFC | everyone got what they deserved | Jul 06 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | he's in prison | Jul 06 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | and | Jul 06 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | they were stupid enough to hand their money to him and it's gone now | Jul 06 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | sounds like an ideal outcome to me | Jul 06 13:11 |
| schestowitz | But some innocent ones got hurt | Jul 06 13:11 |
| schestowitz | You're wrong | Jul 06 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Bailouts and stuff | Jul 06 13:11 |
| schestowitz | I reckon some taxpayers paid for him crimes | Jul 06 13:12 |
| schestowitz | If not bank account holder | Jul 06 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody who hands over their money to an "investor" with a "proprietary secret get rich recipe" that's "guaranteed" to do anything | Jul 06 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | deserves mercy | Jul 06 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's plain as day that Madoff wasn't legit | Jul 06 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | they were as greedy as he was | Jul 06 13:13 |
| schestowitz | You're both from the same country! :-) | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | so greedy they were willing to overlook the warning signs | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | and dive right in | Jul 06 13:13 |
| schestowitz | By the way, this morning I canceled an interview | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | con men thrive on people being so greedy that they don't even look to see what they're getting into | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | con men never cheat honest peopel | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | *people | Jul 06 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I was scheduled to meet them on Monday, but they sicked me, so I bailed out | Jul 06 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | con men always cheat other crooks | Jul 06 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | never innocent people | Jul 06 13:14 |
| schestowitz | Too secretive, apparently building software for banksters (won't name for who) | Jul 06 13:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: wrong | Jul 06 13:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: crApple and m$ both cheat innocent (but ignorant) people | Jul 06 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You don't know how the guy is making all this money for you (supposedly) | Jul 06 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | He's probably doing something illegal to get it | Jul 06 13:14 |
| schestowitz | It's one of those cases where you have to decide whether to indirectly help scum or not. If I had known what they do, I would reject from the start | Jul 06 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | You give him your money anyway even though something is obviously wrong here | Jul 06 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | and YOU become the victim | Jul 06 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing his victims were sorry about is that THEY are the victim | Jul 06 13:15 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's not the only kind of con that exists; also, ignorance exists | Jul 06 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | they wouldn't care if he robbed someone else to make them rich | Jul 06 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | they knew he was up to no good, they just didn't figure it would blow up in their face | Jul 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | He kept score in imaginary money | Jul 06 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | now they're pissed that it did | Jul 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Got him some respect for a few years | Jul 06 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | if it went some other way and they get rich and someone else got robbed, they wouldn't care | Jul 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Now he's a 'famous' convict | Jul 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | SEC is lousy | Jul 06 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | because it's what they figured he was doing as they were handing him the money | Jul 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: xenu | Jul 06 13:17 |
| MinceR | hail xenu! | Jul 06 13:17 |
| schestowitz | Xenu is teh ghey | Jul 06 13:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1698/womens-soccer/2010/07/01/2005453/vals-wps-foot-notes-ubuntu | Jul 06 13:18 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I like Scientology for the fact it shows how _all_ religions work | Jul 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz | It just accentuates it a bit and gives a sobering reality check | Jul 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't know much about it, but from what I've seen it's just like all other dogmas, just with fewer followers who have more means | Jul 06 13:19 |
| MinceR | people still don't get it | Jul 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Made-up story: check | Jul 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Heroic figure/s: check | Jul 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Goal to take other people's money: check | Jul 06 13:19 |
| MinceR | the cult of $cientology is too subtle a hint for most people | Jul 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Hierarchy of imposters for central power: ehck | Jul 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz | So people who want Scientology crackdown should consider that it's just one among many | Jul 06 13:20 |
| schestowitz | It's easy to target the small | Jul 06 13:20 |
| schestowitz | BUT... I don't know enough about the cult to judge it fully compared to others | Jul 06 13:20 |
| schestowitz | There are also corporate cults | Jul 06 13:20 |
| schestowitz | They have some overlap, but some things have no 1-to-1 correspondence | Jul 06 13:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techtree.com/India/Downloads/Blender_249b_32-bit/551-111961-658.html | Jul 06 13:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Techtree.com India > Downloads > Productivity Tools > Blender 2.49b 32-bit .::. Size~: 33.49 KB | Jul 06 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's worth capping organisations' size | Jul 06 13:23 |
| schestowitz | Like monopoly laws | Jul 06 13:23 |
| schestowitz | Or democracy that ends a president's term after 8 years max | Jul 06 13:23 |
| schestowitz | These are lessons taken from history and applied to political science, to avoid accumulation of power that exceeds a generation's lifetime | Jul 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/40000-mandriva-saved-by-investors-again | Jul 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva 2010.1 delayed again | Jul 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Mess. | Jul 06 13:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @opensourcerer I loved this: "#Microsoft Success Stories" #FAIL on all counts. ROTFL http://twitpic.com/22vlmh | Jul 06 13:30 | |
| Techrights | Title: I loved this: "#Microsoft Success Stories" #FAIL on all count... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 10.22 KB | Jul 06 13:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @agente_smithe"We are raising a gen of kids who live entirely in the world of the interface but have no clue wht is behind the interface" | Jul 06 13:31 | |
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| schestowitz | See discussion here: http://lwn.net/Articles/394889/ | Jul 06 13:32 |
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| DaemonFC | vandals :) | Jul 06 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | moving statues is vandalism? | Jul 06 13:36 |
| MinceR | it can be | Jul 06 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | he says nothing is broken | Jul 06 13:36 |
| MinceR | it's cut neatly? or molten? :> | Jul 06 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=1162 | Jul 06 13:37 |
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| *eduardo (185ba848@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.91.168.72) has joined #boycottnovell | Jul 06 13:41 | |
| eduardo | greetings! | Jul 06 13:41 |
| eduardo | anyone awake yet? :) | Jul 06 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | a black male and white female from Arkansas | Jul 06 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | in a dispute | Jul 06 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Jul 06 13:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Monsanto: court makes a meal of soya ruling - http://bit.ly/dlzpvT Monsanto slapped down in important patent ruling #monsanto #argentina | Jul 06 13:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On way to work.....:( | Jul 06 13:45 | |
| eduardo | ender2070 any luck with the job hunting ? | Jul 06 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, One thing I noticed is that the police like to run your plate before they come onto your property | Jul 06 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | so I always park backwards | Jul 06 13:46 |
| MinceR | you only have one plate? | Jul 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | if they want to read my plate, they'll have to hop out and walk around the car | Jul 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 06 13:47 |
| MinceR | i have one at the front and one at the back | Jul 06 13:47 |
| MinceR | but i want a garage anyway | Jul 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | 35C4970 I think | Jul 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | was my last one | Jul 06 13:48 |
| MinceR | note that this channel is logged :> | Jul 06 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | this one is 357CAG | Jul 06 13:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Apart from #microsoft how many others use Silverlight? Has any user who doesn't have it noticed? #mvp #fail #silverlight | Jul 06 13:49 | |
| eduardo | I read the logs sometimes :) | Jul 06 13:51 |
| eduardo | hard for me to make time to be here | Jul 06 13:51 |
| eduardo | wife, kids, job, etc | Jul 06 13:51 |
| eduardo | been taking down a tree in our yard the past few nights | Jul 06 13:51 |
| eduardo | speaking of which... | Jul 06 13:53 |
| eduardo | oiaohm I saw a comment in the logs by you a day or so ago about meego changing their minds on mono | Jul 06 13:54 |
| eduardo | due to your emails | Jul 06 13:54 |
| schestowitz | eduardo: hi | Jul 06 13:54 |
| eduardo | that's good news | Jul 06 13:54 |
| eduardo | but I was curious where to find evidence of this, because they seem to still be using banshee? | Jul 06 13:54 |
| eduardo | hi schestowitz! | Jul 06 13:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BBC chief acknowledges DAB flop & internet radio - http://bit.ly/a0AW4o but is it too late? #bbc #dab #radio | Jul 06 13:56 | |
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| eduardo | schestowitz what kind of evidence is there of vmware buying novell? is it just speculation? or is there something with more weight? | Jul 06 13:57 |
| eduardo | at this point | Jul 06 13:57 |
| eduardo | I've been using vmware for many many years | Jul 06 13:57 |
| eduardo | ever since the 1.0 days when they gave me a free license | Jul 06 13:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin even MSNBC rejects Silverlie | Jul 06 13:58 | |
| eduardo | (back before there were any alternatives) | Jul 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz | eduardo: they look for acquisitions, based on sources about 4 weeks ago | Jul 06 13:58 |
| MinceR | i tried vmware a few times, but it failed every time | Jul 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz | [vmware that is] | Jul 06 13:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Prince Primes Pirates For Huge Download Fest With 20Ten - http://bit.ly/dfhmpA from purpleness to cluelessness #prince #music | Jul 06 13:59 | |
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| eduardo | interesting | Jul 06 13:59 |
| schestowitz | They want the RoR company | Jul 06 14:00 |
| eduardo | RoR? | Jul 06 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Om Malik's site said so and another concurred | Jul 06 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Ruby on Rails | Jul 06 14:00 |
| eduardo | oh, yes | Jul 06 14:00 |
| eduardo | I saw an article on that somewhere | Jul 06 14:00 |
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| DaemonFC | i MADE A fEDORA sOLAR WALLPAPER FOR MY PHONE :p | Jul 06 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | uggh | Jul 06 14:06 |
| *DaemonFC smacks the crums out of the caps lock key | Jul 06 14:06 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 14:06 |
| MinceR | derp | Jul 06 14:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Once Again, HTC’s Pockets Are Bulging Thanks to A Healthy Q2 - http://bit.ly/cva7Tm it will help to pay the lawyers, at least #htc #android | Jul 06 14:08 | |
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| eduardo | oh cool, RMS himself follows ender2070 on identi.ca? | Jul 06 14:09 |
| eduardo | (catching up on ender's status updates) | Jul 06 14:09 |
| MinceR | i doubt RMS uses identi.ca | Jul 06 14:10 |
| MinceR | afaik he has an intermittent connection and does everything over email | Jul 06 14:10 |
| eduardo | oh | Jul 06 14:11 |
| eduardo | is it like a fake steve jobs then? | Jul 06 14:11 |
| MinceR | most likely | Jul 06 14:11 |
| eduardo | ah | Jul 06 14:12 |
| eduardo | I wish I had interesting stuff to use identi.ca for ;) | Jul 06 14:12 |
| eduardo | to write about I mean | Jul 06 14:12 |
| eduardo | reading ender070 v lefty is like a soap opera :) | Jul 06 14:14 |
| cubezzz | it ended badly | Jul 06 14:14 |
| cubezzz | there's a lesson there | Jul 06 14:14 |
| MinceR | lefty is boring, not worth paying attention to | Jul 06 14:14 |
| eduardo | "next week on days of our lives, will little timmy get fired?" | Jul 06 14:15 |
| cubezzz | pfffft :) | Jul 06 14:15 |
| eduardo | :) | Jul 06 14:15 |
| eduardo | cubezzz: yea, trolls win too often | Jul 06 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1598/plates.jpg | Jul 06 14:16 |
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| DaemonFC | not too exciting as plates go :P | Jul 06 14:16 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 06 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans managed to ram through an "In God We Trust" plate too | Jul 06 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 14:17 |
| eduardo | the unfortunate thing is that even if ender manages to get lefty fired, it won't really hurt him because he's probably ready to retire anyway | Jul 06 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/expert.q.a/07/06/depression.alternate.medication/ | Jul 06 14:19 |
| Techrights | Title: What are alternatives to antidepressants? - CNN.com .::. Size~: 75.21 KB | Jul 06 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | Too depressing to think about. | Jul 06 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | (blipvert) BUY MORE CYMBALTA!!!!! | Jul 06 14:20 |
| eduardo | haha, depressing to read about anti-depressants? :) | Jul 06 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | no, the alternatives to anti-depressants are too depressing | Jul 06 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 14:20 |
| eduardo | oh | Jul 06 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | my psychiatrist hates me, because whenever he pulls out a cliche, I always make fun of it | Jul 06 14:21 |
| eduardo | why do you see a psychiatrist? | Jul 06 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | "Addicts can go crazy, kill themselves, or get stoned" | Jul 06 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | Me: All good options, I'll take them! | Jul 06 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 14:22 |
| eduardo | you're an adict? of what? drugs? | Jul 06 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | of life | Jul 06 14:22 |
| eduardo | haha | Jul 06 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | I'm addicted to it | Jul 06 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | the people around me are just too damned great | Jul 06 14:22 |
| eduardo | then why see a psychiatrist? :) | Jul 06 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know really | Jul 06 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect he has his reasons | Jul 06 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | pages and pages of them | Jul 06 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | filed away somewhere | Jul 06 14:23 |
| eduardo | are you forced? | Jul 06 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Jul 06 14:23 |
| eduardo | what do you mean by that? | Jul 06 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | he asked me why I was there one day and I said "To get some more dope to cope" | Jul 06 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | he got pissed off and was like "Those are medications to help you deal with your life issues" | Jul 06 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, that's what I said" | Jul 06 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:24 |
| oiaohm | anti-depressants are really more often than not avoiding treating the true problems. | Jul 06 14:24 |
| eduardo | oiaohm hello! | Jul 06 14:25 |
| eduardo | did you see my question about an hour ago? | Jul 06 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, They say that nicotine might help with bipolar disorder | Jul 06 14:25 |
| eduardo | about meego and banshee | Jul 06 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like smoking enough to find out | Jul 06 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | but when I did smoke I was jsut as bad or worse | Jul 06 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I call bullshit | Jul 06 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing like dragging yourself out of bed at 4 AM, de-icing the car, and driving to work with 20 minutes to kill | Jul 06 14:27 |
| eduardo | oiaohm to recap, you said a few days ago that after your messages to the meego list, meego reconsidered their choice of shipping mono/banshee | Jul 06 14:27 |
| eduardo | but I was unable to find any evidence of that | Jul 06 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | so you can sit outside where it's 10 below zero and smoke a couple cigarettes real quick | Jul 06 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | before the bullshit fest starts | Jul 06 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | but I managed to make a ritual out of it | Jul 06 14:27 |
| oiaohm | I had the luck of speaking to the leads eduardo. | Jul 06 14:29 |
| eduardo | oh | Jul 06 14:29 |
| eduardo | who are the leads? | Jul 06 14:29 |
| eduardo | and why are they not speaking publicly? | Jul 06 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I was at my cousin's house in Iowa years back | Jul 06 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | and she is a vegetarian | Jul 06 14:29 |
| oiaohm | Face saving eduardo | Jul 06 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | nobody in the family eats anything but that crap | Jul 06 14:30 |
| eduardo | it doesn't seem to be helping | Jul 06 14:30 |
| eduardo | by not speaking up, they are only hurting themselves | Jul 06 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | one of the things they had was a "cookout" complete with soy hot dogs | Jul 06 14:30 |
| eduardo | hurting their reputations | Jul 06 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | you can't chew them, they bounce | Jul 06 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're totally flavorless | Jul 06 14:30 |
| oiaohm | Really its touchy eduardo | Jul 06 14:30 |
| eduardo | why? | Jul 06 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | and I tried feeding one to the dogs who wouldn't touch it | Jul 06 14:30 |
| eduardo | in the meantime, they continue shipping mono | Jul 06 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | and there are people that live on that stuff | Jul 06 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather just clog my arteries and if I die a year sooner, so be it | Jul 06 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | dogs will eat stuff that's been laying dead in the sun for 5 days | Jul 06 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | but not boca hotdogs | Jul 06 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | I can't say I blame them | Jul 06 14:32 |
| cubezzz | yeah I tried soy burgers recently | Jul 06 14:32 |
| cubezzz | they were awful | Jul 06 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | they have a rubbery texture | Jul 06 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | they taste like a seasoned innertube | Jul 06 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, I was putting like a gallon of miracle whip on them | Jul 06 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | trying to make them taste like something | Jul 06 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've eaten miracle whip sandwiches before | Jul 06 14:34 |
| cubezzz | gross | Jul 06 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | they're better without the Bocaburger | Jul 06 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:34 |
| eduardo | http://identi.ca/notice/39957985 | Jul 06 14:34 |
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| eduardo | uh... | Jul 06 14:34 |
| MinceR | what does "boca" stand for? | Jul 06 14:35 |
| eduardo | ender??? | Jul 06 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, vegetarian imitation hamburgers | Jul 06 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | made largely from soy protein | Jul 06 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | oddly enough, the tobacco companies make them | Jul 06 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:35 |
| eduardo | ender2070 getting banned on wikipedia for vandalism is not helping your credibility :( | Jul 06 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Boca Foods, owned by kraft, owned by Philip Morris | Jul 06 14:37 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 06 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | the company that makes Marlboro cigarettes | Jul 06 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 14:37 |
| MinceR | wikipedia is a battleground of political groups | Jul 06 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Philip Morris making healthfood would be like Monsanto making vitamin water | Jul 06 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | and hippies would still buy it | Jul 06 14:38 |
| MinceR | what are vitamins doing in water? | Jul 06 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | I asked myself that too | Jul 06 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Flavored water with vitamins, made by Coca Cola | Jul 06 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | hippies drink it | Jul 06 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | then they go protest Coca Cola | Jul 06 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 14:39 |
| cubezzz | coca cola is bad in a few ways | Jul 06 14:39 |
| eduardo | it rots your teeth | Jul 06 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | then lunch is Boca Burgers | Jul 06 14:40 |
| cubezzz | indeed | Jul 06 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | followed by protesting Big Tobacco | Jul 06 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then they get on their iMac and protest the slave labor conditions in third world countries | Jul 06 14:40 |
| eduardo | daemonfc followed by smoking? :) | Jul 06 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | eduardo, They used to think so little of smoking that they made 'candy cigarettes" for kids | Jul 06 14:41 |
| eduardo | I know | Jul 06 14:41 |
| eduardo | I had some | Jul 06 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | I remember those, they were like 25 cents | Jul 06 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | it was only like 20 years ago | Jul 06 14:42 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: what makes you think Kraft is owned by Philip Morris? | Jul 06 14:42 |
| eduardo | some of the more expensive ones had powdered sugar coating, inside a paper wrapper | Jul 06 14:42 |
| eduardo | so you could blow in one end and "smoke" came out | Jul 06 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Because they bought Kraft Foods? | Jul 06 14:42 |
| MinceR | when? | Jul 06 14:42 |
| cubezzz | those candy cigarettes weren't made by cigarette companies were they? | Jul 06 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | eduardo, Then they had fake cigarettes for health conscious people | Jul 06 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | which were dried vegetables packed in rolling paper | Jul 06 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, 1989 | Jul 06 14:43 |
| eduardo | haha | Jul 06 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like they stamp "WARNING, this slice of cheese is made by a company that kills 100,000 Americans every year!" | Jul 06 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | but yeah, they own Kraft Foods :) | Jul 06 14:44 |
| MinceR | oh, found something on it | Jul 06 14:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, they don't really advertise it :) | Jul 06 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, To be fair, Velveeta is to die for | Jul 06 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | just not by lung cancer | Jul 06 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 14:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 06 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm drinking Lipton iced tea | Jul 06 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | Lipton = Unilever | Jul 06 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 14:48 |
| MinceR | i'm drinking Dilmah green tea | Jul 06 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | green tea doesn't make really good iced tea | Jul 06 14:49 |
| MinceR | it's not iced | Jul 06 14:50 |
| MinceR | but why do you say it doesn't make good iced tea? | Jul 06 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | it's good, I just prefer black tea when I'm making iced tea :) | Jul 06 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | I make iced tea by the gallon | Jul 06 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | drink tons of the stuff | Jul 06 14:51 |
| MinceR | actually i prefer Twinings Gunpowder Green Tea to this one | Jul 06 14:52 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP Foresaw its Doom in 1970s "Offshore Oil Strike" Board Game http://ur1.ca/0k77b | Jul 06 14:53 | |
| Techrights | Title: BP Foresaw its Doom in 1970s "Offshore Oil Strike" Board Game .::. Size~: 77.74 KB | Jul 06 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | loose leaf? | Jul 06 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | you almost never see that here | Jul 06 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, I had to go to three stores to find one that sold tea kettles | Jul 06 14:54 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - i wasn't banned for vandalism | Jul 06 14:54 |
| MinceR | only loose once it's in the water :> | Jul 06 14:54 |
| MinceR | or you mean filterless? | Jul 06 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wonder why Walmart has roughly one quarter of an aisle dedicated to tea | Jul 06 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | and doesn't carry tea kettles | Jul 06 14:55 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - I was blocked for a day | Jul 06 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | makes no sense to me | Jul 06 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | how do they sell that many teabags and no tea kettles? | Jul 06 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The tea that doesn't come in bags | Jul 06 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | you put it into some kind of dangly metal thing | Jul 06 14:56 |
| MinceR | perhaps they expect you to use an electric water heater or something | Jul 06 14:56 |
| eduardo | ender2070 still, it doesn't help your cause | Jul 06 14:56 |
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| DaemonFC | I've only seen pictures of that | Jul 06 14:56 |
| MinceR | yes, i got a tea ball recently | Jul 06 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | like I said, nothing like that is sold here | Jul 06 14:56 |
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| MinceR | now i probably will be able to make iced tea | Jul 06 14:56 |
| MinceR | (previous implements for holding loose leaf tea were too small for that) | Jul 06 14:56 |
| MinceR | at my workplaces i just use the water heater function of the "water cooler" to prepare hot water for my tea | Jul 06 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | Make gallons of iced tea, 6-8 ounces at a time! | Jul 06 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 14:57 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 06 14:57 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - someone kept vandalizing the gnu wiki page and said I was vandalizing it by undoing his edits | Jul 06 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | three revert rule | Jul 06 14:58 |
| ender2070 | unfortunately I wasn't the most familiar with wikipedia at the time | Jul 06 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | you were suckered, sucker | Jul 06 14:58 |
| ender2070 | i didnt know I had to explain my changes | Jul 06 14:58 |
| MinceR | yes, one of the rules that political activists like to abuse on wikipedia | Jul 06 14:58 |
| MinceR | we need a better "wiki" | Jul 06 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, eventually some idiot bans the guy that was trying to fix the blatant vandalism | Jul 06 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | and lets the vandal go | Jul 06 14:58 |
| eduardo | ender2070 I see | Jul 06 14:58 |
| MinceR | something that combines everything2 with mediawiki | Jul 06 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's Wikipedia | Jul 06 14:58 |
| eduardo | ender2070 you should complain | Jul 06 14:59 |
| ender2070 | Yworo kept changing GNU to an 'incomplete' OS | Jul 06 14:59 |
| MinceR | and does away with the "NPOV" bullshit and instead allows multiple POVs to be presented | Jul 06 14:59 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Jul 06 14:59 |
| ender2070 | thankfully other people were around to revert his changes properly | Jul 06 14:59 |
| cubezzz | better to just stick with gnu.org | Jul 06 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, If you want to be technical, it is incomplete, unless you actually use HURD | Jul 06 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | but that's knit picking | Jul 06 14:59 |
| MinceR | so if you want to be technical, it's complete | Jul 06 15:00 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 15:00 |
| ender2070 | +1 Mincer | Jul 06 15:00 |
| ender2070 | thats what the other people were saying | Jul 06 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, if you use Linux, it makes for a complete OS | Jul 06 15:00 |
| ender2070 | plus its complete with you use the linux kernel too | Jul 06 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | if you use a BSD kernel it can be a compelte GNU OS | Jul 06 15:00 |
| ender2070 | when | Jul 06 15:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: GNU is complete with HURD, even if you use it with Linux | Jul 06 15:00 |
| MinceR | or with a BSD kernel | Jul 06 15:00 |
| eduardo | ender2070 be more careful next time, obviously this lefty guy will use your mistakes against you | Jul 06 15:01 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is not the biggest part of the system, but it is the most important | Jul 06 15:01 |
| eduardo | and you only end up hurting your image | Jul 06 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | if there are bugs in the kernel, they'll take your system down faster than anything else | Jul 06 15:01 |
| cubezzz | I'd say gcc is just as important as the Linux kernel | Jul 06 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you're missing drivers, who cares about anything else | Jul 06 15:01 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - he does it all the time | Jul 06 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | if the kernel does not perform well, who cares about anything else? | Jul 06 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | you can't make a production system out of HURD | Jul 06 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Define production. | Jul 06 15:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: an OS that's pre-1.0 is still an OS | Jul 06 15:02 |
| oiaohm | If you wanted a random timer for a bomb HURD would be perfect. | Jul 06 15:02 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - openuniverse made a very good point. lefty will take what you say, rewrite it and TELL you what YOU meant. | Jul 06 15:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: people often call winblows an "operating system" and argue it's complete -- but would you use it in a production system? | Jul 06 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | one that works on commodity hardware and performs well, and doesn't crash with unreasonable frequency | Jul 06 15:03 |
| cubezzz | Not I | Jul 06 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | you could call a Windows 98 machine a "production environment" | Jul 06 15:03 |
| eduardo | ender2070 btw, I have a canadian friend who told me you can probably sue over your termination | Jul 06 15:03 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you wanted a random timer for a bomb a hypePhone would be better :> | Jul 06 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to play word games | Jul 06 15:03 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - I can't really talk about any legal stuff | Jul 06 15:03 |
| eduardo | s/canadian friend/canadian ex-lawyer friend/ | Jul 06 15:03 |
| ender2070 | trust me i know how the employment laws work here :) | Jul 06 15:04 |
| eduardo | I take it then that you are suing? ;) | Jul 06 15:04 |
| ender2070 | the government might but i cant really say much more | Jul 06 15:04 |
| ender2070 | (ministry of labour) | Jul 06 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have to wonder how feasible HURDs design goals were | Jul 06 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | given that it's as old as I am | Jul 06 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | and still is not ready for general use | Jul 06 15:05 |
| MinceR | they certainly set the bar high | Jul 06 15:05 |
| MinceR | that's why it's taking so long | Jul 06 15:05 |
| MinceR | microkernel OSes are very rare, especially on desktops and servers | Jul 06 15:05 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - im still trying to find out who gave lefty my boss's phone number | Jul 06 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's more or less dead-ish | Jul 06 15:05 |
| MinceR | (there's Minix and GNU/HURD, probably no others) | Jul 06 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | I've only seen a few patches committed on it this year | Jul 06 15:06 |
| MinceR | there's also the QNX demo which hardly worked... | Jul 06 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, MINIX is actually pretty capable | Jul 06 15:06 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - an OS doesn't have to work for it to be called an OS | Jul 06 15:06 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - Windows ME was considered an OS | Jul 06 15:07 |
| ender2070 | i dont know how productive you could be with it crashing every 30 minutes | Jul 06 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Me gave me what I paid for | Jul 06 15:07 |
| eduardo | ender2070 have canonical responded to your application? | Jul 06 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | (Microsoft sent me a free copy) | Jul 06 15:07 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: you got it gratis? | Jul 06 15:07 |
| MinceR | right | Jul 06 15:07 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - just the automated email saying they got the application | Jul 06 15:08 |
| eduardo | ah | Jul 06 15:08 |
| cubezzz | what did stallman use to write gcc? | Jul 06 15:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: are you sure it didn't have a negative value? | Jul 06 15:08 |
| eduardo | too bad | Jul 06 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was just Windows 98 Third Edition with hidden DOS | Jul 06 15:08 |
| eduardo | have you poked jono? | Jul 06 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | it was completely stupid | Jul 06 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up going back to Windows 98 | Jul 06 15:08 |
| eduardo | perhaps he can help accelerate the interview process | Jul 06 15:08 |
| ender2070 | eduardo - no I haven't | Jul 06 15:08 |
| cubezzz | Pascal I think it was | Jul 06 15:08 |
| cubezzz | Pastel | Jul 06 15:08 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: do you consider your time spent with winme wasted? | Jul 06 15:08 |
| eduardo | they probably have 100's of applications | Jul 06 15:09 |
| eduardo | you need to make yourself stand out | Jul 06 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Windows Me was the most pointless upgrade ever, all the updates for Windows 98 essentially gave you the same features | Jul 06 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | only it crashed less and you could still boot to DOS :) | Jul 06 15:09 |
| cubezzz | bah, I'm off the doze for good | Jul 06 15:09 |
| eduardo | jono seems like a good guy, I'm sure he'll help you | Jul 06 15:09 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | System Restore was and still is the biggest $50,000 toilet seat in Windows | Jul 06 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | the first thing I do with it is shut it off | Jul 06 15:10 |
| cubezzz | wow, Len Tower looks almost as crazy as Stallman | Jul 06 15:10 |
| eduardo | you might want to also point him at the abuses from lefty sine lefty seems to be on the ubuntu devel mailing lists | Jul 06 15:10 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_H._Tower_Jr. | Jul 06 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | every time I've managed to break Windows so thoroughly that I needed System Restore it either didn't work or broke things more anyway | Jul 06 15:10 |
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| ender2070 | eduardo - hes not here but i dented him | Jul 06 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | no point having it hog the disk with restore points that don't help you at all | Jul 06 15:11 |
| eduardo | cool | Jul 06 15:11 |
| eduardo | well, I gotta go | Jul 06 15:11 |
| eduardo | good luck! | Jul 06 15:11 |
| ender2070 | thanks | Jul 06 15:11 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 06 15:11 |
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| cubezzz | you know what was pretty god? laplink | Jul 06 15:11 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 15:12 |
| cubezzz | fastest parallel port file transfer program | Jul 06 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Your system is still broke, but we trashed everything you installed after the last restore point, and resurrected the malware you just finished destroying! | Jul 06 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | Round 2....FIGHT! | Jul 06 15:12 |
| cubezzz | good, pretty good | Jul 06 15:13 |
| cubezzz | this keyboard isn't very good | Jul 06 15:13 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jul 06 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | Flawless Victory! | Jul 06 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l470/ApaoloFight/flawless-victory-my-victory-it-is-f.jpg | Jul 06 15:14 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.mit.edu/~tower/PedalPoweredMower.jpg | Jul 06 15:14 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz, System Restore probably makes your hard drive fail sooner | Jul 06 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't you think? | Jul 06 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | extra wear and tear | Jul 06 15:15 |
| cubezzz | probably | Jul 06 15:15 |
| MinceR | i doubt that mower works in tall grass | Jul 06 15:16 |
| cubezzz | one of those non-powered push mowers would probably be safer | Jul 06 15:17 |
| MinceR | those don't work in tall grass either :> | Jul 06 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You can buy a decent riding lawnmower for $800 or so | Jul 06 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | you can buy a hell of a nice one for $1,200 | Jul 06 15:18 |
| MinceR | i know | Jul 06 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | complete with beer holder even | Jul 06 15:19 |
| MinceR | there's a reason non-powered mowers are rarely seen :> | Jul 06 15:19 |
| MinceR | i prefer to just not mow, though | Jul 06 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I use one | Jul 06 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it | Jul 06 15:19 |
| MinceR | if the plants could survive for millions of years without human meddling, they should continue to do so | Jul 06 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | survive, yes | Jul 06 15:19 |
| MinceR | and thrive | Jul 06 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | overgrown? certainly | Jul 06 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | thrive.... | Jul 06 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | that's another word for it I suppose | Jul 06 15:20 |
| MinceR | what's "overgrow"? | Jul 06 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | where it becomes a nuisance or an eyesore? | Jul 06 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | and facilitates pests maybe? | Jul 06 15:20 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of plants now that cannot exist without us. | Jul 06 15:21 |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as overgrow | Jul 06 15:21 |
| oiaohm | strangle self. | Jul 06 15:21 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen wild vegetation being an eyesore :> | Jul 06 15:21 |
| MinceR | i've been in a national park recently -- grass was going just fine without being bothered. | Jul 06 15:22 |
| MinceR | and so did the other plants | Jul 06 15:22 |
| cubezzz | yes | Jul 06 15:22 |
| oiaohm | I have seen cases of non natives to area without form of natual control becomeing nightmares. | Jul 06 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dawngrrl.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/WindowsLiveWriter/ItstrueIdonereaditonthemInternets_7FE6/fat_guy_in_girl_underwear5.jpg | Jul 06 15:22 |
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| DaemonFC | overgrown | Jul 06 15:22 |
| cubezzz | we had goodman park nearby | Jul 06 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Most plants have some creatures keeping them in check. | Jul 06 15:22 |
| cubezzz | it's partially cut, partially natural | Jul 06 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=303557&d=1259804023 | Jul 06 15:22 |
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| DaemonFC | also overgrown | Jul 06 15:22 |
| MinceR | those are humans, though | Jul 06 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff304/guyverunit45/fat_guy.jpg | Jul 06 15:23 |
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| MinceR | animals, not plants | Jul 06 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | severely overgrown | Jul 06 15:23 |
| cubezzz | what about forests DaemonFC? They seem to do just fine without intervention | Jul 06 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/ticketstub87/-fat_guy.jpg | Jul 06 15:24 |
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| DaemonFC | cubezzz's mother? | Jul 06 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes, there was a time when all of Indana was a giant forest, and quite marshy in some places | Jul 06 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | we fixed that | Jul 06 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | now it grows corn | Jul 06 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and has cities | Jul 06 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo! | Jul 06 15:25 |
| MinceR | yes, you're fixing the rainforests too :> | Jul 06 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | actually no | Jul 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | they will eventually stop converting CO2 to O2, and humanity will suffocate | Jul 06 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | we don't care what that turns into | Jul 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | woohoo! | Jul 06 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | important people don't live there | Jul 06 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | (important = lots of money) | Jul 06 15:26 |
| cubezzz | don't forget the great work BP is doing to "improve" things | Jul 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, important people are in a different atmosphere | Jul 06 15:26 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 06 15:26 |
| ender2070 | Mincer is right | Jul 06 15:26 |
| ender2070 | you need new trees, not old trees to produce air | Jul 06 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, You refer to BP's new Strategic Petroleum Reserve? | Jul 06 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:27 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 15:27 |
| ender2070 | they should pass laws that require replanting new trees when they chop them down | Jul 06 15:27 |
| MinceR | formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico? | Jul 06 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, exactly | Jul 06 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 15:27 |
| cubezzz | there's actually quite a bit of new tree growth around here | Jul 06 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We're a little low, you mind dipping a few more barrels out? | Jul 06 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | Watch the dead fish this time! | Jul 06 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:28 |
| ender2070 | did you guys see the dailyfail try to explain that jet fuel only produces water vapour? | Jul 06 15:28 |
| cubezzz | yeah you don't want to get dead fish chunks in your oil | Jul 06 15:28 |
| MinceR | depends on what kind of oil it is | Jul 06 15:29 |
| MinceR | i do sometimes eat dead fish chunks in vegetable oil | Jul 06 15:29 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 06 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | the kind that's not supposed to mix with water | Jul 06 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | so much for Science class | Jul 06 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:29 |
| ender2070 | daemonfc - regarding jet fuel? | Jul 06 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Obama talking about those mythological skimmer plans | Jul 06 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | makes me think of taking a Zamboni to the Gulf | Jul 06 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 15:30 |
| ender2070 | dailyfail was also saying that trails left by planes are good for the environment | Jul 06 15:30 |
| ender2070 | reduces global warming | Jul 06 15:30 |
| ender2070 | mind you, they dont mention the barium | Jul 06 15:31 |
| ender2070 | and aluminum oxide | Jul 06 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Canada offered to zamboni the Gulf | Jul 06 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | blissfully unaware that water can take liquid form | Jul 06 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | poor frostbitten hoseheads :) | Jul 06 15:32 |
| ender2070 | theres a patent from the 80s or 90s which consists of 'spaying the sky with aluminum oxide and barium to help the enivornment because these particles reflect the sunlight' | Jul 06 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, There's also the concept of cloud seeding | Jul 06 15:32 |
| MinceR | afaik those trails don't reduce daily warming, they reduce oscillation of temperature | Jul 06 15:32 |
| ender2070 | afaik aluminum oxide and barium are bad for you | Jul 06 15:33 |
| MinceR | (they reflect sunlight from above during the day, reducing temperature; and they reflect heat back to the surface at night, increasing temperature) | Jul 06 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, kind of like when it's 100 degrees and people think that having a fan blowing on them is going to help? | Jul 06 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 15:33 |
| MinceR | it does help, if they drink more than usual | Jul 06 15:33 |
| MinceR | the fan enhances cooling by perspiration | Jul 06 15:33 |
| MinceR | but it's not the best way, really | Jul 06 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Drinking is what this town does best I'm sure | Jul 06 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | if there was one more alcoholic, we'd have to move to Ireland | Jul 06 15:34 |
| ender2070 | 10 years ago if you mentioned they were spaying the skies they call you a nutter, even thought it was national security | Jul 06 15:34 |
| ender2070 | now they cover it up with PR | Jul 06 15:34 |
| ender2070 | "We're saving the environment!" | Jul 06 15:34 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 15:35 |
| ender2070 | (and killing your health) | Jul 06 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | We're pouring the nuclear waste on Canada | Jul 06 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | why do you think we were the control group? | Jul 06 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:35 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: are you saying that if someone were to send an alcoholic to Indiana, there would be unclaimed land there? :> | Jul 06 15:35 |
| ender2070 | those two chemicals I mentioned have an effect on the immune system | Jul 06 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | Huntington anyway | Jul 06 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.indianaunclaimed.com | Jul 06 15:36 |
| Techrights | Title: Indiana Unclaimed - Search .::. Size~: 10.54 KB | Jul 06 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | there you go | Jul 06 15:36 |
| ender2070 | non-nafta countries are lacking in chemtrails | Jul 06 15:36 |
| MinceR | Hoosier Daddy? | Jul 06 15:37 |
| cubezzz | tvo is getting worse... | Jul 06 15:37 |
| ender2070 | TVO | Jul 06 15:37 |
| cubezzz | supporting flash and microsoft word :-/ | Jul 06 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The state loves "acting on your behalf", because then the clock starts ticking | Jul 06 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | and eventually they get to seize your unclaimed assets :) | Jul 06 15:37 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - TVO was awesome a few weeks ago | Jul 06 15:37 |
| ender2070 | they had Steve Hawking! | Jul 06 15:37 |
| cubezzz | yeah that was good | Jul 06 15:38 |
| ender2070 | He was speaking from the University of Waterloo, Ontario | Jul 06 15:38 |
| cubezzz | TVO seems to be becoming more microsoft oriented though | Jul 06 15:38 |
| ender2070 | he mentioned that information isn't lost in a blackhole | Jul 06 15:38 |
| ender2070 | TVO is government run, of course it is | Jul 06 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Lincolns funeral procession got messed up you know | Jul 06 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | and for two blocks, it ended up being led by Indiana cavalry | Jul 06 15:39 |
| ender2070 | most canadian governments jerk off over MSFT software | Jul 06 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | the "colored" division | Jul 06 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 15:39 |
| ender2070 | quebec got in big shit because they were supposed to buy locally and went MSFT | Jul 06 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | that didn't go over well | Jul 06 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Microsoft Canada | Jul 06 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | duh | Jul 06 15:39 |
| cubezzz | bah, that's not good | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | They're local on paper | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | no thats not local | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | sure it is | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | they dont produce any software there | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | the government did it | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | now shut up | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 15:40 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | the government got in trouble daemonfc | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | they were sued over it | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | the small linux company won | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the thing about suing the government | Jul 06 15:40 |
| ender2070 | but the judge couldnt reverse the sale | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | the BEST thing about suing the government | Jul 06 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | is that you MUST sue the government, in the government court system | Jul 06 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | and the government must agree to be sued | Jul 06 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 15:41 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 15:41 |
| ender2070 | jono - poke | Jul 06 15:41 |
| cubezzz | WNED or TVO had a documentary about Microsoft recently, I'm trying to find it | Jul 06 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Your chances of suing the government and winning really depend largely on which level of government you're suing | Jul 06 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | local? OK | Jul 06 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | County? ok | Jul 06 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | State? Perhaps | Jul 06 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | The Feds? Almost never, but you can ask | Jul 06 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | I assume it's about the same deal in Canada | Jul 06 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | If you sue the Feds, they can just refuse to turn over the evidence you need to sue them with | Jul 06 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | call it "state secrets" | Jul 06 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | lower levels of government really can't do that | Jul 06 15:45 |
| ender2070 | you're right actually | Jul 06 15:46 |
| ender2070 | there was a canadian politician in ontario who sued the government to get them to release details on the chemtrails and they said national security | Jul 06 15:47 |
| cubezzz | our government should use FOSS more | Jul 06 15:47 |
| ender2070 | im wondering what type of human genes they have in these seed vaults | Jul 06 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I hate caller ID on cell phones | Jul 06 15:48 |
| ender2070 | elite hertiage is the most likely | Jul 06 15:48 |
| cubezzz | it was WNED | Jul 06 15:50 |
| cubezzz | "Bill_Gates__How_a_Geek_Changed_the_World" | Jul 06 15:50 |
| cubezzz | might be worth a look | Jul 06 15:50 |
| MinceR | failed lawyers get to call themselves geeks now? | Jul 06 15:50 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 06 15:50 |
| ender2070 | harvard dropouts | Jul 06 15:50 |
| cubezzz | so Stallman used pascel compilers to write gcc in the beginning | Jul 06 15:51 |
| cubezzz | pascal | Jul 06 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | Bill Gates - A Jew starts a business, what could go wrong? | Jul 06 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 15:51 |
| ender2070 | HATE SPEECH | Jul 06 15:52 |
| MinceR | criminal organizations are called "business" now? | Jul 06 15:52 |
| *ender2070 arrests DaemonFC | Jul 06 15:52 | |
| MinceR | wait, yes they are | Jul 06 15:52 |
| ender2070 | Anti-semitism! | Jul 06 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | You dirty Jew! | Jul 06 15:52 |
| ender2070 | YOU NEO NAZI! | Jul 06 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Get your damned dirty Jew hands off me! | Jul 06 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 06 15:52 |
| cubezzz | ok, but don't you ever wonder why Microsoft dominated for so long? | Jul 06 15:52 |
| ender2070 | man, you ARE a neo nazi | Jul 06 15:52 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 15:52 |
| MinceR | (except for the ones that are called "states" and "churches") | Jul 06 15:52 |
| cubezzz | why didn't Unix catch on more? | Jul 06 15:53 |
| ender2070 | because GNU is better | Jul 06 15:53 |
| ender2070 | GNU's Not Unix | Jul 06 15:53 |
| cubezzz | it is better yes | Jul 06 15:53 |
| MinceR | because the PC became a defining platform | Jul 06 15:53 |
| cubezzz | but that doesn't really explain windows taking over | Jul 06 15:53 |
| MinceR | and it had CP/M clones due to IBM being asleep at the wheel | Jul 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, No, I don't really have anything personally against Jews, but that might be because I've never given my money to one that I've taken my eyes off of. | Jul 06 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | So in all fairness, I've never given them a chance... | Jul 06 15:54 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: it's mostly due to IBM being asleep at the wheel. | Jul 06 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 15:54 |
| cubezzz | yes maybe | Jul 06 15:54 |
| cubezzz | IBM invented a lot of things but their OS didn't seem to take hold | Jul 06 15:55 |
| MinceR | they had an OS for the PC? | Jul 06 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft learned from every competitor's mistake that they built their business by exploiting | Jul 06 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | what a concept | Jul 06 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | Don't give your source code to bearded hippies. Ever. | Jul 06 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | is like their golden rule :D | Jul 06 15:56 |
| cubezzz | MincerR, they had OS/2 sort of | Jul 06 15:56 |
| cubezzz | and IBM DOS | Jul 06 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | Sue or make threats over third party implementations. Immediately. | Jul 06 15:56 |
| cubezzz | and Topview (which really sucked) | Jul 06 15:56 |
| MinceR | IBM DOS was just a rebranded CP/M based on the stolen code m$ bought | Jul 06 15:56 |
| MinceR | afaik | Jul 06 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | drive them underground before they establish that you're not enforcing your patents | Jul 06 15:57 |
| ender2070 | how is it stolen code if they bought it? | Jul 06 15:57 |
| MinceR | and OS/2 was that CP/M and VMS-based horrible mess m$ did with IBM | Jul 06 15:57 |
| MinceR | ender2070: the company they bought it from stole it from DRI | Jul 06 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | OS/2 was not terrible | Jul 06 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | cp/m and vm-based horrible mess? oh, you must mean NT | Jul 06 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | dohohohohohoho | Jul 06 15:57 |
| ender2070 | OS/2 wasn't that bad | Jul 06 15:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: compared to winblows, it wasn't. compared to unix, it was. | Jul 06 15:57 |
| MinceR | winblows makes os/2 look good. | Jul 06 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | yes, but BeOS was probably the best of all | Jul 06 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 15:58 |
| ender2070 | OS/2 was better than windows | Jul 06 15:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | but it failed :( | Jul 06 15:58 |
| cubezzz | Haiku isn't bad | Jul 06 15:58 |
| MinceR | can haiku do multiuser? | Jul 06 15:58 |
| ender2070 | yellowtab had potential | Jul 06 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | of course it can | Jul 06 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS | Jul 06 15:58 |
| Techrights | Title: BeOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 57.53 KB | Jul 06 15:58 |
| ender2070 | BeOS is dated these days | Jul 06 15:58 |
| MinceR | "of course" BeOS never could | Jul 06 15:58 |
| ender2070 | drivers are seriously lacking | Jul 06 15:59 |
| cubezzz | yeah I've tried a lot of things and I always go back to gnu+linux | Jul 06 15:59 |
| MinceR | BeOS is dead these days | Jul 06 15:59 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Jul 06 15:59 |
| ender2070 | as well as support for 64-bit | Jul 06 15:59 |
| ender2070 | Haiku is an OSS BeOS | Jul 06 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, At the time it had a lot of stuff that nobody else was close to implementing | Jul 06 15:59 |
| ender2070 | but its shotty at this point | Jul 06 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | it made Linux (at the time) seem like a toy | Jul 06 16:00 |
| ender2070 | no 64-bit either | Jul 06 16:00 |
| MinceR | daelol. | Jul 06 16:00 |
| MinceR | oops | Jul 06 16:00 |
| cubezzz | "In 2002, Be Inc. sued[4] Microsoft claiming that Hitachi had been dissuaded from selling PCs loaded with BeOS, and that Compaq had been pressured to not market an Internet appliance in partnership with Be." | Jul 06 16:00 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Jul 06 16:00 |
| ender2070 | an OS that can't support my 8GB of ram is worthless | Jul 06 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Linux hasn't always been terribly reliable or given monstrous performance or extremely low latency | Jul 06 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's been quite ugly until about the last 5-6 years | Jul 06 16:01 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - actually it has | Jul 06 16:01 |
| cubezzz | ahem MinceR | Jul 06 16:01 |
| cubezzz | "PC DOS remained a rebranded version of MS-DOS until 1993. IBM and Microsoft parted ways—MS-DOS 6 was released in March, and PC DOS 6.1 (separately developed) followed in June" | Jul 06 16:01 |
| ender2070 | 2.4 is still developed | Jul 06 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | pre-2.6, Linux wasn't worth going near | Jul 06 16:01 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it could pretty much do everything Unix could | Jul 06 16:01 |
| ender2070 | for those hardcore ppl | Jul 06 16:01 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: BeOS couldn't | Jul 06 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | especially if you had a dual CPU system | Jul 06 16:01 |
| MinceR | and probably still can't | Jul 06 16:01 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - some consider 2.4 more stable than 2.6 | Jul 06 16:01 |
| ender2070 | 2.6 changes too fast | Jul 06 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | yes, people who watch Fox News | Jul 06 16:02 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: i wasn't aware of the separately developed PC-DOS | Jul 06 16:02 |
| ender2070 | 2.6 is a 'rolling release' style of development | Jul 06 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Some people say the evil monkey lurks among us | Jul 06 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Some people say, he points right at you | Jul 06 16:02 |
| MinceR | 2.6 is a pathway to many features some consider to be...unnatural. | Jul 06 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 16:02 |
| cubezzz | ha | Jul 06 16:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 06 16:02 |
| ender2070 | a lot of servers still use linux 2.4 | Jul 06 16:02 |
| MinceR | my router at home runs 2.4 | Jul 06 16:03 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz is probably 2.4's biggest supporter in this channel | Jul 06 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | 2.4 SMP support is a joke | Jul 06 16:03 |
| cubezzz | any OS that can't run on my 486 with 16 megs is useless :) | Jul 06 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | it works but get ready for some laaaaaaaag | Jul 06 16:03 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - your 486 is killing the environment with inefficiency | Jul 06 16:03 |
| cubezzz | that's right, we need more computers in landfills | Jul 06 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | and possibly a kernel panic or 50 | Jul 06 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Interesting thing is the number of new features being added to linux kernel is reducing. | Jul 06 16:04 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - give it to some needy people who don't even have 1 pc | Jul 06 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | there's lots of things you can do to piss pre-2.6 kernels off at you | Jul 06 16:04 |
| oiaohm | More and more 2.6 work is clean up. | Jul 06 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | lots of things 2.6.anything will survive intact | Jul 06 16:04 |
| cubezzz | it's very clean inside too | Jul 06 16:04 |
| cubezzz | no fans at all | Jul 06 16:04 |
| ender2070 | at the very least get it a brand new psu | Jul 06 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, yeah, I noticed more and more things are starting to work right | Jul 06 16:05 |
| cubezzz | I will | Jul 06 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | even if they always were a bit twitchy | Jul 06 16:05 |
| cubezzz | and i've been running 2.4 on dual cpu for 6 years | Jul 06 16:05 |
| cubezzz | it works well enough | Jul 06 16:05 |
| ender2070 | 2.4 is fine for dual cpu | Jul 06 16:05 |
| oiaohm | Really it does not cubezzz | Jul 06 16:05 |
| ender2070 | its quad, and more that it has problems | Jul 06 16:05 |
| oiaohm | There are major glitches vfs system and block systems that are only being removed now. | Jul 06 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Is Ext4 still the Kite Eating Tree? | Jul 06 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | or did they tame it? | Jul 06 16:06 |
| cubezzz | I want 320x200 mode still | Jul 06 16:06 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - ext4 is going to be in RHEL6 | Jul 06 16:06 |
| MinceR | do you need 2.4 for 320x200? | Jul 06 16:06 |
| ender2070 | i think its fine | Jul 06 16:06 |
| cubezzz | nope | Jul 06 16:06 |
| cubezzz | I run 2.2 for that :) | Jul 06 16:07 |
| oiaohm | Ext4 is starting tobe tamed. | Jul 06 16:07 |
| MinceR | ext4 is fine, as long as you don't want to store anything important :> | Jul 06 16:07 |
| ender2070 | ext4 is perfectly fine | Jul 06 16:07 |
| ender2070 | stop the FUD | Jul 06 16:07 |
| oiaohm | But just when I though it was tamed. richacl has entered. | Jul 06 16:07 |
| ender2070 | RHEL6 will be using it | Jul 06 16:07 |
| oiaohm | Upgrade of the Linux ACL system. | Jul 06 16:07 |
| ender2070 | they'll have to support it forever | Jul 06 16:07 |
| cubezzz | and you know what else? The stupid wide screen monitors stretch the BIOS screen | Jul 06 16:07 |
| oiaohm | to include all the features of NT ACL system. | Jul 06 16:07 |
| MinceR | ext4 was designed based on wrong principles. if it turns out not to be a mess, it's a miracle. | Jul 06 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Plus more. | Jul 06 16:08 |
| MinceR | and there's btrfs anyway | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - your monitor sucks | Jul 06 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Ext4 is turning out ok. | Jul 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ext4 is still losing data where it would have most likely survived intact with XFS | Jul 06 16:08 |
| cubezzz | not my monitor | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz - mine can be tuned to not do that | Jul 06 16:08 |
| cubezzz | it's my customer's | Jul 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's not speaking highly of Ext4 relaibility | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | ohhh | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | *reliability | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | your customers monitor sucks | Jul 06 16:08 |
| oiaohm | ext3 was not reliable as xfs eitehr DaemonFC | Jul 06 16:08 |
| ender2070 | Mincer - btrfs :D :D :D | Jul 06 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | at least it was the last time I looked at it | Jul 06 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Ext4 is getting there. | Jul 06 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | People like to FUD XFS a lot based on what it did in 2001 | Jul 06 16:09 |
| ender2070 | my favorite filesystems are btrfs and zfs | Jul 06 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Ext4 is going to be a testing ground for some of the newer techs as btrfs comes up. | Jul 06 16:09 |
| oiaohm | richacl is a major change. | Jul 06 16:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does XFS journal file contents or write them in ordered mode now? | Jul 06 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Like attrib to allow users to take ownership of files. | Jul 06 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | writeback, metadata | Jul 06 16:10 |
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| oiaohm | As part of Linux normal attribute system. | Jul 06 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | really Ext3/4 default to metadata only | Jul 06 16:10 |
| MinceR | not on any system i've used | Jul 06 16:10 |
| oiaohm | Its going to be fun richacl since it will kill of the MS guy arguments over NTFS having better acl. | Jul 06 16:10 |
| MinceR | default for ext3 has always been ordered afaict. | Jul 06 16:10 |
| ender2070 | mincer - I think daemonfc has to set those options manually for xfs | Jul 06 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | ordered yes | Jul 06 16:11 |
| MinceR | lol, NTFS has better acl? | Jul 06 16:11 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 16:11 |
| MinceR | an ACL where deny always takes precedence is not utterly rubbish in their eyes? | Jul 06 16:11 |
| oiaohm | NTFS has a broard set of acl options. | Jul 06 16:11 |
| cubezzz | there's even a IBM PC DOS 2000 | Jul 06 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Journaling_levels | Jul 06 16:11 |
| Techrights | Title: ext3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 75.15 KB | Jul 06 16:11 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't even call it an ACL. | Jul 06 16:11 |
| ender2070 | oiaohm - all of them are ignored when importing the NTFS filesystem into linux | Jul 06 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ordered metadata-only journal is ext3 default | Jul 06 16:11 |
| ender2070 | :D | Jul 06 16:11 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: ordered applies to all data | Jul 06 16:12 |
| oiaohm | Yet it ntfs has some major acl design flaws as well. | Jul 06 16:12 |
| oiaohm | Like no real execute bit. | Jul 06 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Only metadata is journaled; file contents are not, but it's guaranteed that file contents are written to disk before associated metadata is marked as committed in the journal." | Jul 06 16:12 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: ext3 doesn't kill data by default like XFS and ext4 used to | Jul 06 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | so either the transaction succeeds or fails | Jul 06 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the system definitely knows which one happened when it comes back up | Jul 06 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | which is nice | Jul 06 16:12 |
| ender2070 | btrfs > everything else | Jul 06 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | but you can still lose data :) | Jul 06 16:13 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: can XFS do that already? | Jul 06 16:13 |
| cubezzz | "The entire DR DOS 8 series was pulled from the market after it was discovered that 8.1 code had been lifted from FreeDOS in violation of the GPL license." | Jul 06 16:13 |
| MinceR | well, anything can lose data but XFS and ext4 used to destroy data in these cases | Jul 06 16:13 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 16:13 |
| oiaohm | ender2070: really here is the thing with richacl support in Linux Samba and NFS can access NTFS drives correctly from Linux ender2070 | Jul 06 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Basically game changing. | Jul 06 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, XFS does file system synchronizations often enough that I'm not sure it matters | Jul 06 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it allows any outstanding file operations for more than 10 seconds anyway | Jul 06 16:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: so it still kills data | Jul 06 16:14 |
| MinceR | not nice | Jul 06 16:14 |
| MinceR | syncing often is not the whole story. | Jul 06 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | no, it can't guarantee than an individual operations has succeeded or failed, but the window of failure is fairly small | Jul 06 16:15 |
| cubezzz | it's funny that MIcrosoft killed MS DOS | Jul 06 16:16 |
| cubezzz | in 1994 | Jul 06 16:16 |
| cubezzz | guess it was time to herd everyone into windows | Jul 06 16:16 |
| oiaohm | btrfs and ext3 and ext4 all can be configure to have opers either succeed or fail no foul. | Jul 06 16:16 |
| oiaohm | ext4 had that turned off for speed reasons. | Jul 06 16:16 |
| oiaohm | Mostly caused by BKL caused chaos. | Jul 06 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If you saved something to the disk between 1-9 seconds before a power outage, it "might" be lost | Jul 06 16:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm not real sure how important that is | Jul 06 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | any decent office software autosaves every so often anyway | Jul 06 16:17 |
| cubezzz | well with a UPS you should be pretty safe | Jul 06 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | Well, people act as if XFS is just waiting to go on a killing spree or something and it's not | Jul 06 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | the amount of damage that could be done is not much more or less than other file systems in use | Jul 06 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | I think most of the "data loss problems" must have been people making shotgun changes to settings or something then pulling the power cord out real quick | Jul 06 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | "ZOMG, it at my home folder, you bastards!!!" | Jul 06 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | *ate | Jul 06 16:21 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's ok. it's the file becoming overwritten with zeroes that i don't like. :) | Jul 06 16:21 |
| MinceR | and whatever ext4 did (can't remember) | Jul 06 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | the file itself isn't, the space it had allocated is | Jul 06 16:22 |
| MinceR | which is part of the file, according to the metadata. | Jul 06 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | you're only maybe in trouble if the power goes out at the precise moment it is committing something | Jul 06 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | something important | Jul 06 16:22 |
| MinceR | i doubt that should be a problem if journaling was done properly | Jul 06 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | something non-trivial to replace that should have been backed up anyway | Jul 06 16:22 |
| MinceR | on a non-broken filesystem? :> | Jul 06 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | I happen to think that Ubuntu's "cloud backup" thing is pretty cool | Jul 06 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | 2 GB will store a hell of a lot of documents or pictures | Jul 06 16:24 |
| MinceR | is it encrypted so that canonical and the government can't read it? | Jul 06 16:24 |
| MinceR | 2GB easily fits in my pocket | Jul 06 16:24 |
| MinceR | and on my phone | Jul 06 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | I remember them saying something about encryption on their end | Jul 06 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | I know that it's stored on Amazon servers | Jul 06 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | There's an Ubuntu One client for Windows too | Jul 06 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 06 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh that must be new | Jul 06 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: if theres Ubuntu One for Windows | Jul 06 16:26 |
| MinceR | and the successor will be Ubun Two? | Jul 06 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it can sync your documents and music ans such between all your Ubuntu and Windows systems | Jul 06 16:27 |
| ender2070 | ugh, the government can break your encryption if its serious enough | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | transparently-ish | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, The government | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | drug you | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | $5 wrench | Jul 06 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | I've been over this | Jul 06 16:27 |
| MinceR | the government can't break your encryption if it's (the encryption, that is) serious enough :> | Jul 06 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Microsofts new cloud thing 25GB free space or whatever | Jul 06 16:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they can't do that without your knowledge, though | Jul 06 16:27 |
| ender2070 | you would have to use quantum encryption algorithms if you want to be safe from the government | Jul 06 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Would the Hungarian police drug you and whack you with a wrench until you gave them the key? | Jul 06 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 16:28 |
| MinceR | and not en masse (that is, on a lot of individuals they consider to be suspicious) | Jul 06 16:28 |
| ender2070 | they have quantum computers that can break consumer encryption | Jul 06 16:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: dunno, they probably would. but i would notice. | Jul 06 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070: whats quantum? really powerful computer? | Jul 06 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, Yeah, Skydrive | Jul 06 16:28 |
| ender2070 | theres a consumer quantum cpu that works, so im sure the government has a secret one thats way better | Jul 06 16:28 |
| MinceR | ender2070: i doubt quantum encryption has even been demonstrated for storage | Jul 06 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I reallly really don't trust that | Jul 06 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 06 16:29 |
| MinceR | the ones i've heard about only worked for transmission, in a point-to-point context | Jul 06 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well yeah its Microsoft :D anyway yeah Office web apps thingey as well with that | Jul 06 16:29 |
| ender2070 | key word 'i've heard about' | Jul 06 16:29 |
| ender2070 | you won't hear about classified secret government projects or hardware | Jul 06 16:29 |
| MinceR | (that is, they use quantum mechanics to transmit the key stream in a way that it can't be eavesdropped on) | Jul 06 16:29 |
| *MinceR hands ender2070 his tinfoil hat | Jul 06 16:29 | |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, Yeah, Microsoft puts sent attachments from your hotmail on Skydrive now | Jul 06 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well I guess its the winner though for the most free cloud storage at the moment though | Jul 06 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | and just forwards a link to the recipient | Jul 06 16:30 |
| cubezzz | I have a tinfoil _suit_ :) | Jul 06 16:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 16:30 |
| ender2070 | why would they let people know they have it? | Jul 06 16:30 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: anyway the cloud, no thanks, i'll just backup my own data locally :) | Jul 06 16:30 |
| ender2070 | and it would be stupid for the USA not to have one | Jul 06 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, We give you 20 more feet of rope to hang yourself with than those other guys! | Jul 06 16:30 |
| ender2070 | terrorists are using encryption | Jul 06 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Go run around the block a few times, THEN hang yourself :D | Jul 06 16:30 |
| MinceR | ender2070: it doesn't only depend on need | Jul 06 16:31 |
| cubezzz | ah that's better | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | also on feasibility | Jul 06 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Apple still lacks a cloud service though doesn't it? | Jul 06 16:31 |
| cubezzz | almost off the old busybox now | Jul 06 16:31 |
| ender2070 | Mincer, theres a working one that people know of | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | we don't know if anyone _has_ the technology right now | Jul 06 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, Hell if I care | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | ender2070: hm? | Jul 06 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | Crapple users deserve whatever happens to them | Jul 06 16:31 |
| ender2070 | the military always has way more advanced technology than the public get | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | but you don't know how much more | Jul 06 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: same for most Microsoft users I guess :D | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | and what it is | Jul 06 16:31 |
| ender2070 | they had transistors back when we were using vacuum tubes | Jul 06 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I mean Windows users | Jul 06 16:31 |
| MinceR | and it's pointless to give up encryption just because someone _might_ have a way to break it if you don't really _know_ | Jul 06 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | altough sometimes I guess most of us are Windows users as well :D | Jul 06 16:32 |
| MinceR | if you adopt a policy like that, there's no _need_ for quantum computing :> | Jul 06 16:32 |
| ender2070 | no but its naive to trust encyption will keep you safe from everyone | Jul 06 16:32 |
| ender2070 | its just a layer of security, its not bullet proof | Jul 06 16:32 |
| MinceR | it's naive to just blindly hope your data will not be read | Jul 06 16:32 |
| ender2070 | theres wetware methods too, like daemonfc mentioned, take you to cuba and work you over with a $5 wrench | Jul 06 16:32 |
| cubezzz | yeah and they had magnetic core when I was using williams tubes :) | Jul 06 16:33 |
| MinceR | like i said, that only works in some cases | Jul 06 16:33 |
| MinceR | if you just have unencrypted "backup" lying on a server somewhere in the cloud, anyone can read it without you even finding out about it | Jul 06 16:33 |
| MinceR | ever | Jul 06 16:33 |
| ender2070 | yeah exactly | Jul 06 16:33 |
| MinceR | you'll never know if the data on it was ever compromised | Jul 06 16:33 |
| ender2070 | the AT&T has that spy room, its STILL there | Jul 06 16:33 |
| MinceR | AT&T -- Your World. Delivered. To The NSA. | Jul 06 16:34 |
| ender2070 | monitoring every packet that goes through that server | Jul 06 16:34 |
| ender2070 | ROFL | Jul 06 16:34 |
| ender2070 | +1 | Jul 06 16:34 |
| cubezzz | no, not my gilligan's island torrent | Jul 06 16:34 |
| cubezzz | j/k | Jul 06 16:34 |
| ender2070 | im sure they watch facebook from that spy room too | Jul 06 16:34 |
| ender2070 | wouldnt be hard to even write a wireshark script to look for specific facebook stuff | Jul 06 16:35 |
| MinceR | facebook probably pushes updates to them | Jul 06 16:35 |
| ender2070 | even if they didnt | Jul 06 16:35 |
| ender2070 | http is easy with wireshark | Jul 06 16:35 |
| MinceR | remember that google revealed that they had a web interface specifically for governments to spy on people | Jul 06 16:35 |
| ender2070 | microsofts nsa documents got leaked too | Jul 06 16:36 |
| ender2070 | listing all the stuff they saved and how to get it | Jul 06 16:36 |
| ender2070 | it was STLL lacking information too | Jul 06 16:36 |
| ender2070 | how do you get msn chat logs | Jul 06 16:36 |
| ender2070 | sometimes you cant get a direct connection and the chat goes through ms's servers | Jul 06 16:37 |
| ender2070 | i kind of think they leaked it on purpose | Jul 06 16:37 |
| cubezzz | oh yeah avoid MSN | Jul 06 16:37 |
| cubezzz | for sure | Jul 06 16:37 |
| ender2070 | to make it seem like they werent as bad as google | Jul 06 16:38 |
| ender2070 | i guarantee they log msn chats | Jul 06 16:38 |
| ender2070 | at least the ones that go through their servers | Jul 06 16:38 |
| ender2070 | I would if I was MS | Jul 06 16:38 |
| ender2070 | it would have logged 'all those crazy linux users' using unofficial clients which dont direct connect | Jul 06 16:40 |
| ender2070 | back when they didnt | Jul 06 16:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hrm what you think of this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10514367.stm | Jul 06 16:41 |
| Techrights | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 90.5 KB | Jul 06 16:41 |
| cubezzz | well not good of course | Jul 06 16:45 |
| ender2070 | my friends seem to jump onto every dangerous bit of technology | Jul 06 16:52 |
| ender2070 | they went from msn to facebook | Jul 06 16:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 06 16:53 |
| ender2070 | facebook is kim jong il's wet dream | Jul 06 16:53 |
| MinceR | more like every single tyrant's wet dream | Jul 06 16:53 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 16:53 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of them in Jesusland, Canada, Airstrip One, North Korea, Australia and Absurdistan | Jul 06 16:54 |
| MinceR | just to name a few | Jul 06 16:54 |
| ender2070 | in the beginning of soviet russia, there were people who kept track of everyones friends to discover dissidents | Jul 06 16:54 |
| ender2070 | Pierre Trudeu used to attend Cominturn (Canada) | Jul 06 16:56 |
| MinceR | afaik originally communism was about something a lot different from what it became | Jul 06 16:56 |
| ender2070 | and his friend and co founder of the liberals, Lester B Pearson was prime minister and ran the UN for a short period of time | Jul 06 16:57 |
| ender2070 | nah communism was more about giving power to one authority in the 'name of the people' | Jul 06 16:57 |
| ender2070 | someone has to control food and production to give everyone food and jobs | Jul 06 16:57 |
| ender2070 | i know a few people who left communist russia and they had nothing good to say about communism | Jul 06 16:58 |
| ender2070 | everyone got food sure, but never enough | Jul 06 16:58 |
| MinceR | afaik the original idea was what we now call anarcho-communism | Jul 06 16:58 |
| ender2070 | not to mention how they starved ukraine and killed 30 million people | Jul 06 16:59 |
| MinceR | (but even that is suboptimal because it would abolish property) | Jul 06 16:59 |
| ender2070 | but the holcaust is the worst! | Jul 06 16:59 |
| ender2070 | killing 6 million jews is more heinous than killing 30 million people | Jul 06 17:00 |
| MinceR | it's more heinous than anything | Jul 06 17:00 |
| MinceR | pay no attention to any other genocide that happened in human history | Jul 06 17:00 |
| ender2070 | of course, russia switched sides - nobody cares | Jul 06 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.tgdaily.com/unbalanced/50518-uk-government-fancies-itself-as-an-iphone-developer | Jul 06 17:10 |
| Techrights | Title: UK government fancies itself as an iPhone developer | TG Daily .::. Size~: 45.74 KB | Jul 06 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | The UK government has spent tens of thousands of pounds on developing iPhone apps, the BBC has revealed. They include an app aimed at unemployed people, which apparently cost £32,775 to develop. | Jul 06 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jul 06 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | yes, because the most effective use of that much money is to help unemployed people who own the most expensive phone in the universe | Jul 06 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Another app, which cost £40,000, shows motorists how to check their spark plugs and change a flat tyre." | Jul 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | Because all motorists with the most expensive phone in the world do this themselves. | Jul 06 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Maybe their next app could simulate being bent over and brutally raped by high taxation so they can make iphone apps | Jul 06 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Grab your ankles! | Jul 06 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | if anyone wondered why they get taxed at like 90% in Europe, I suppose throwing money around on crap like this could be a place to start | Jul 06 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps schestowitz's government can make an iphone app to show where all the tax money is going? | Jul 06 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | that should only cost them like $50,000, right? | Jul 06 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | find out the horrible truth that fully 5% of the UK economy is the government hiring iphone developers to make useless apps | Jul 06 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Need to dump all your Cadbury's stock before Nestle ruins everything? There's an app for that. (There went another $80,000) | Jul 06 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | errr Kraft Foods | Jul 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | the cigarette/cheese company | Jul 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | no, no, new product | Jul 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | cheese is out | Jul 06 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | highly addictive cheese-based food product that gives you AIDS is in | Jul 06 17:25 |
| ender2070 | [12:13] <DaemonFC> MinceR, Maybe their next app could simulate being bent over and brutally raped by high taxation so they can make iphone apps | Jul 06 17:26 |
| ender2070 | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | Jul 06 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm confused, I don't know if I want cigarettes or cheese! YOu gotta help me!!!! | Jul 06 17:26 |
| ender2070 | denting that one | Jul 06 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's so much ankle-grabbing government goodness that we had to bring it to you through the magical iphone | Jul 06 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 17:28 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] <DaemonFC> MinceR, Maybe their next app could simulate being bent over and brutally raped by high taxation so they can make iphone apps | Jul 06 17:28 | |
| zoobab | Have you seen the ACT lobbying for the Community Patent? | Jul 06 17:39 |
| zoobab | http://www.euractiv.com/en/innovation/eu-seeks-break-patent-translation-deadlock-news-495842 | Jul 06 17:39 |
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| zoobab | Jonathan Zuck, President of the Association for Competitive Technology (ACT), said the proposal is a "crucial milestone which can revitalize the EU patent dossier". | Jul 06 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg | Jul 06 17:47 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Lefty is a fucking coward, he cannot explain how he is better than me when he took it a step further and got me fired from my job | Jul 06 17:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: but I'm better than you and don't need to explain why | Jul 06 17:51 |
| ender2070 | yeah but you're not lefty | Jul 06 17:52 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 17:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, you're right | Jul 06 17:53 |
| ender2070 | his coward response 'ask bell canada' | Jul 06 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I was Lefty, my dick would be a foot shorter | Jul 06 17:53 |
| ender2070 | hahahahaha | Jul 06 17:53 |
| ender2070 | inverted | Jul 06 17:53 |
| ender2070 | probably why he was offended when I asked if he had sand in his vagina | Jul 06 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | although that is funny, I wasn't implying that at all. | Jul 06 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | *cough* | Jul 06 17:54 |
| *Diablo-D3 keeps the ladies happy. | Jul 06 17:54 | |
| ender2070 | :D | Jul 06 17:57 |
| ender2070 | I keep my lady happy | Jul 06 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | by staying far away? | Jul 06 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | and registering on the predator list like you should? | Jul 06 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 06 17:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] On WebM, H264, and FFmpeg implementation - http://bit.ly/dBqwVZ patents again #webm #ffmpeg #swpats | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What I want for my website - http://bit.ly/d2ZvyW Dries Buytaert: "maintaining & improving the quality of my website is bit like gardening" | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] MPs ban public from expenses row committee hearing - http://bit.ly/cJDsCe transparency is *so* last year #mps #expenses | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Who Owes Whom? A Handful of Links Relating to International Debt… - http://bit.ly/dfeHzq jolly good question: wonder if it's got an answer | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BBC's approach to combating online piracy - http://bit.ly/9IE3ig "promotion of copyright awareness": so BBC does propaganda for industry now | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] New blog post: Switzerland - 0wn3d by Microsoft http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/07/switzerland-0wn3d-by-microsoft/ | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] MySQL Coders: Your World Wide Wikipedia needs you - http://bit.ly/bF6pHv see comment from David Gerard at bottom #wikipedia #mysql #help | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] "Pirates are Killing Musicians, Composers, Lyricists, Even Popcorn Vendors" - http://bit.ly/ddbgb5 debunking "no such thing as user rights" | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Update on the local spending data scandal… the empire strikes back - http://bit.ly/dCgqB0 dangerous times: we must keep up pressure #ogov | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] oh do tell, great bit.ly, why you have just vaporised six days of my links? just asking... #bitly | Jul 06 18:10 | |
| Techrights | Title: On WebM, H264, and FFmpeg implementation | carlodaffara.conecta.it .::. Size~: 37.44 KB | Jul 06 18:10 |
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| Techrights | Title: Jan Wildeboer » Blog Archive » Switzerland 0wn3d by Microsoft .::. Size~: 21.82 KB | Jul 06 18:10 |
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| Techrights | Title: Update on the local spending data scandal& the empire strikes back « countculture .::. Size~: 28.25 KB | Jul 06 18:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @DirDigEng Local government job vacancies to go online in open standardised format http://bit.ly/d6VRhR >>"to increase transparency" | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Source: It's all LinkedIn - http://bit.ly/9KYf31 why victory is inevitable (hint: follow the pig) #opensource #linkedin | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Morning, folks! How are we all doing today? | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Such a nice and soothing canticle, ma sha'a Allah :-) -- The Heart of a Muslim http://youtu.be/yN9CmqPA-Zo | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] MySpace UK Traffic Is Half What It Used To Be - http://tcrn.ch/9NdiGo that Rupert Murdoch really knows how to run a website... #myspace | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A net loss of freedom - http://bit.ly/dfCdsq 1&1 Internet won't win many friends doing this (via @remixtures) | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Nicolas Sarkozy in donations scandal - http://bit.ly/9ZQD5p don't miss the pic on this page #france | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Creationist weaseling over the age of the earth - http://bit.ly/cnOs2p "scientists are dogmatists…because, you know, they know stuff." | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Microsoft vulnerabilities: full disclosure and no disclosure - http://bit.ly/9PbEmu not a good development #security | Jul 06 18:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #Linux - Independence Day Connection and Why #GNU Linux is Valuable http://ur1.ca/0ka8z http://ur1.ca/0ka91 http://ur1.ca/0ka92 | Jul 06 18:11 | |
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| Techrights | Title: Lin-dependence day! | Linux and Open Source | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 74.56 KB | Jul 06 18:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Non-Geeks" Increasingly Pleased With Desktop #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0kaan http://ur1.ca/0kaao | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video Explains Why #GNU #Linux Has No Malware http://ur1.ca/0kabm | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Oops. I meant "Million" (although biliion would be nicer) | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Professional Institute Claims Quarter of a Billion Exams Milestone http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/06/prweb4146594.htm | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 15 With GNU/Linux; #LXDE Desktop Experience http://ur1.ca/0kaea http://ur1.ca/0kaeb | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux is Succeeding in he OEM Channel http://ur1.ca/0kace http://ur1.ca/0kacf | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cory @Doctorow Moved from Macs to #GNU #Linux , Other Linux Love Stories http://ur1.ca/0jmcl http://ur1.ca/0kag2 http://ur1.ca/0kag3 | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cory @Doctorow Moved from Macs to #GNU #Linux , Other Stories http://ur1.ca/0jmcl http://ur1.ca/0kag2 http://ur1.ca/0kag3 | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The Community Leadership Summit 2010 attendee list is rocking! http://is.gd/dhAFF Come and join us in Portland on the 17th and 18th! #cls | Jul 06 18:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] "White voters leave Obama" -Gary L. Snyder (Who can't get #Huntington #Indiana voters to elect him dog catcher.) @garylsnyder | Jul 06 18:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop Training Confirmed, Amazon Referral http://ur1.ca/0kas2 http://ur1.ca/0kas3 http://ur1.ca/0kas4 | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] "White voters leave Obama" -Gary L. Snyder (Who can't get #Huntington #Indiana voters to elect him dog catcher.) | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody perhaps this will be useful before you email RMS (more than listening to @lefty) http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/faq.html | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A CIO for the French Government - http://bit.ly/dAK154 three makes it a trend #cio #france | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE #Akademy Starts, Covered by KDE http://ur1.ca/0kasl http://ur1.ca/0joio http://ur1.ca/0kasm http://ur1.ca/0kasn | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Conference Videos Now Available Online http://ur1.ca/0kasy http://ur1.ca/0kasz #akademy | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] My vidcasts tomorrow: Ubuntu/Community 11am PT / 2pm ET / 6pm UTC - http://is.gd/da6oG and afterwards Severed Fifth - http://is.gd/dgljZ | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| Techrights | Title: Safe as Milk » Blog Archive » GNOME Training confirmed! .::. Size~: 24.02 KB | Jul 06 18:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #KDE SC on Sub-notebooks & #Kubuntu Netbook http://ur1.ca/0katc http://ur1.ca/0katd http://ur1.ca/0kate http://ur1.ca/0katf | Jul 06 18:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody Also, RMS has plenty times told he has no problem with with many C# and dotNET, you have to look at how Mono and dotGNU differ. | Jul 06 18:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] iPhone4 vs HTC Evo http://youtu.be/FL7yD-0pqZg | Jul 06 18:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Multimedia Meeting 2010, KDE Primers, and Opening up in #Qt http://ur1.ca/0kau4 http://ur1.ca/0kau5 http://ur1.ca/0kau6 | Jul 06 18:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @RuiSeabra his position seems to have changed at times, though, so I wonder what it is today on those differences | Jul 06 18:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS Continues Long Tradition of Mandrake/Mandriva (Spring Delay) http://ur1.ca/0kb0n http://ur1.ca/0kb0o http://ur1.ca/0kb0p | Jul 06 18:15 | |
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| cubezzz | what is woa? | Jul 06 18:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm writing a letter to TVO | Jul 06 18:16 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @agentsmith: Why Linux is immune to Viruses http://ur1.ca/0kb0d | Jul 06 18:18 | |
| Techrights | Title: YouTube- The Real reason Why Ubuntu Linux Doesn't Have Malware - Part 1 .::. Size~: 95.53 KB | Jul 06 18:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @missrogue: I'm an oxytocin addict. If you are reading this, so are you: http://bit.ly/cQWFbW | Jul 06 18:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat CEO in the Press, #GNU #Linux Dominance Explained http://ur1.ca/0kb1k http://ur1.ca/0j4dv | Jul 06 18:19 | |
| Techrights | Title: Doctor Love | Fast Company .::. Size~: 40.56 KB | Jul 06 18:19 |
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| Techrights | Title: Open source could be a success story, too: Red Hat CEO-Software-Infotech-The Economic Times .::. Size~: 50.45 KB | Jul 06 18:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look Inside #Fedora Board Meeting, New Fedora #Linux for #OLPC http://ur1.ca/0kb2f http://ur1.ca/0kb2g | Jul 06 18:20 | |
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| cubezzz | everything on TVO is encapulsated in flash now | Jul 06 18:22 |
| cubezzz | before you could link to mp4 files | Jul 06 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, someone got a letter from MPEG Cartel | Jul 06 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | panicked, and decided to use Adobe's MPEG-4 license :) | Jul 06 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | either that or they got greedy over the ad money | Jul 06 18:25 |
| cubezzz | TVO has gone from excellent Linux support to marginal | Jul 06 18:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxMint Looks at #Debian at #Ubuntu 's Expense http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1467 | Jul 06 18:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Biergarten nur für RAUCHER - Nichtraucher müssen drinnen sitzen - http://is.gd/dhDtH sehr fein! Recht so! | Jul 06 18:28 | |
| cubezzz | TVO also runs yahoo ads now | Jul 06 18:28 |
| Techrights | Title: Biergarten nur für RAUCHER - Nichtraucher müssen drinnen sitzen - Mir gefällts! .::. Size~: 9.04 KB | Jul 06 18:28 |
| cubezzz | is this WOA stuff Microsoft based tech? | Jul 06 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | WOA? | Jul 06 18:30 |
| cubezzz | yeah it's popping up all over the place | Jul 06 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Jul 06 18:31 |
| cubezzz | Web-Oriented Architecture | Jul 06 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | never seen it | Jul 06 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://hinchcliffe.org/archive/2008/02/27/16617.aspx | Jul 06 18:32 |
| Techrights | Title: What Is WOA? It's The Future of Service-Oriented Architecture (SOA) .::. Size~: 1100.77 KB | Jul 06 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's not Microsoft, but it does not look like anything I'd want :) | Jul 06 18:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Private Manning charged with disclosing iraq-slaughter video. Trigger happy Apache crew remain uncharged. More shortly. | Jul 06 18:33 | |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, If it was Microsoft-ish it would support Windows Media or Silverlight | Jul 06 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't | Jul 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol @ hypePhone apps from the government of Airstrip One | Jul 06 18:35 |
| ender2070 | http://www.zdnetasia.com/can-fedora-be-the-new-ubuntu-62201138.htm | Jul 06 18:35 |
| Techrights | Title: Can Fedora be the new Ubuntu? - Open Source - Techguide .::. Size~: 67.33 KB | Jul 06 18:35 |
| ender2070 | which country is Airstrip One ? | Jul 06 18:36 |
| MinceR | uk | Jul 06 18:36 |
| MinceR | didn't you read 1984? :> | Jul 06 18:36 |
| *ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovell | Jul 06 18:39 | |
| DaemonFC | I think todays mail is responsible for 20 trees being chopped down to tell me stuff I already knew | Jul 06 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 18:41 |
| ender2070 | oh shit i forgot | Jul 06 18:42 |
| ender2070 | havent read it in a long time | Jul 06 18:42 |
| ender2070 | I remember eurasia | Jul 06 18:42 |
| ender2070 | ok guys, now that theres several people here | Jul 06 18:43 |
| ender2070 | im going to write either a far left or a far right book, pseudononymously | Jul 06 18:43 |
| ender2070 | what do you think would sell better | Jul 06 18:44 |
| ender2070 | a far right book will demonize abortion, environmentalists (in favour of oil), and it will question obama's citizenship, and the liberals godlessness | Jul 06 18:46 |
| cubezzz | you're kidding right? | Jul 06 18:46 |
| cubezzz | why not write a book called "alt.dot.pave.the.earth" instead? | Jul 06 18:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 06 18:48 |
| MinceR | or alt.f4 | Jul 06 18:48 |
| MinceR | what will a far left book do? | Jul 06 18:49 |
| ender2070 | im not sure | Jul 06 18:49 |
| ender2070 | the opposite | Jul 06 18:49 |
| cubezzz | solar panels, birth control and Linux | Jul 06 18:49 |
| ender2070 | it'll promote socialism too | Jul 06 18:50 |
| MinceR | can you write a book that's either far left or far right, but readers won't be able to tell which it is? | Jul 06 18:51 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 06 18:51 |
| MinceR | or even one that's both -- those sides aren't all that different in their extremes, afaict | Jul 06 18:51 |
| ender2070 | extremist books sell | Jul 06 18:51 |
| MinceR | somehow they both end up turning into dictatorships that severely damage human rights | Jul 06 18:52 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 18:52 |
| ender2070 | they do | Jul 06 18:52 |
| ender2070 | i just want to make money off of their zealotry | Jul 06 18:53 |
| ender2070 | i know both sides are a sham myself | Jul 06 18:53 |
| ender2070 | Anne Coulter made a lot of money on 'Godless' | Jul 06 18:53 |
| cubezzz | we kicked her out | Jul 06 18:53 |
| cubezzz | of Canada | Jul 06 18:53 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jul 06 18:53 |
| cubezzz | and she's a goof | Jul 06 18:53 |
| ender2070 | of course | Jul 06 18:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yay! My #fedora problem with instant reboots when using kvm was solved => BIOS issue fixed in a June update | Jul 06 18:54 | |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 06 18:54 |
| ender2070 | but her book did sell a lot | Jul 06 18:54 |
| MinceR | you could milk both sides with two books | Jul 06 18:54 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 18:54 |
| ender2070 | I could do that | Jul 06 18:54 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jul 06 18:54 |
| MinceR | you could even make fun of them by making them similar on the inside | Jul 06 18:54 |
| MinceR | (fonts, layout, phrases) | Jul 06 18:54 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | Jul 06 18:54 | |
| MinceR | they'd never find out because they won't read the opposing book | Jul 06 18:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody: not sure whether it does,the FAQ in itself is a bit outdated, too. | Jul 06 18:55 | |
| MinceR | many of the conclusions could be the same too | Jul 06 18:55 |
| cubezzz | paper books are on the way out though | Jul 06 18:55 |
| ender2070 | no way | Jul 06 18:55 |
| cubezzz | young people use ereaders | Jul 06 18:55 |
| ender2070 | i love paper works | Jul 06 18:55 |
| cubezzz | well, I'm reading sherlock holmes on my zaurus | Jul 06 18:56 |
| cubezzz | and not some cheap paperback | Jul 06 18:56 |
| ender2070 | what happens if electricity disappears? | Jul 06 18:56 |
| cubezzz | umm.... it won't | Jul 06 18:56 |
| cubezzz | there's batteries and solar panels and the earth itself generates an electrical field | Jul 06 18:56 |
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| ender2070 | global catastrophe? | Jul 06 18:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] OASIS ODF TC peeps: Note that the OASIS mail servers seem to be down. Of course, Twitter seems to be down a lot as well.... | Jul 06 18:57 | |
| MinceR | do extremists use ereaders? | Jul 06 18:57 |
| ender2070 | liberals perhaps | Jul 06 18:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux is Winning at the Expense of Apple, Microsoft Lost http://ur1.ca/0kbfx http://ur1.ca/0ifc9 http://ur1.ca/0kbfy | Jul 06 18:58 | |
| Techrights | Title: Research: Androids Big Lead Over Apple In Free Apps| paidContent .::. Size~: 30.73 KB | Jul 06 18:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft's past - the future to Android's iPhone victory • The Register .::. Size~: 32.41 KB | Jul 06 18:58 |
| Techrights | Title: Apple Has ZERO Idea What Android Is | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 50.65 KB | Jul 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, All will be forgiven is it suits (insert god here) purpose | Jul 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 06 18:58 |
| *cubezzz inserts Stallman | Jul 06 18:58 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 06 18:58 |
| ender2070 | lol i was applying to this one place and they asked me to email them instead because they were 'green' and didnt want paper waste | Jul 06 18:58 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if RMS is a god | Jul 06 18:58 |
| MinceR | i know that i am, though | Jul 06 18:58 |
| cubezzz | oh good | Jul 06 18:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android Gets More Hackable http://ur1.ca/0kbh9 http://ur1.ca/0kbha http://ur1.ca/0kbhb http://ur1.ca/0kbhd | Jul 06 19:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody Last comment in here: http://is.gd/dhFoc (123 says: July 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm) summarizes well … http://identi.ca/notice/39998100 | Jul 06 19:00 | |
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| cubezzz | ok, every week I do recycling right? | Jul 06 19:00 |
| Techrights | Title: Updated Dell Streak Root Method | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 31.1 KB | Jul 06 19:00 |
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| Techrights | Title: RMS gets it wrong (C# and .NET suck no matter whose you use) » Ad Terras Per Aspera .::. Size~: 31.76 KB | Jul 06 19:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Linux Mint is considering ditching Ubuntu | Jul 06 19:00 |
| cubezzz | guess what I don't do? | Jul 06 19:00 |
| cubezzz | I don't carry tons of newspaper to the curb | Jul 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | and just diving straight into Debian Testing | Jul 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1467 | Jul 06 19:00 |
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| MinceR | does cyanogen come with the google branded apps or equivalent (or greater) replacements? :> | Jul 06 19:00 |
| ender2070 | paper is the most recyclable material | Jul 06 19:00 |
| MinceR | not water? | Jul 06 19:00 |
| ender2070 | or water | Jul 06 19:01 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 19:01 |
| cubezzz | not aluminium? :) | Jul 06 19:01 |
| ender2070 | water is more recyclable than aluminum | Jul 06 19:01 |
| ender2070 | same with paper | Jul 06 19:01 |
| MinceR | water is so recyclable it recycles itself in nature | Jul 06 19:01 |
| cubezzz | ok, but the point is I didn't need to recycle newspaper as I don't use it | Jul 06 19:01 |
| cubezzz | even more efficient | Jul 06 19:01 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 06 19:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] [News] Linux-based Nook Gets Hackable, Windows Phones Run Ubuntu, Android http://ur1.ca/0kbid http://ur1.ca/0kbie http://ur1.ca/0kbif | Jul 06 19:02 | |
| Techrights | Title: nook v1.4 firmware gets rooted - SlashGear .::. Size~: 50.82 KB | Jul 06 19:02 |
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| ender2070 | but im just saying paper isnt that bad | Jul 06 19:02 |
| ender2070 | aluminum is horrible, it costs tons of electricity | Jul 06 19:02 |
| MinceR | dead tree books are heavy though | Jul 06 19:02 |
| MinceR | and you can't grep them | Jul 06 19:02 |
| ender2070 | dead tree books last | Jul 06 19:02 |
| cubezzz | I have the complete works of Conan Doyle on my zaurus | Jul 06 19:02 |
| cubezzz | plus tons of other books | Jul 06 19:02 |
| ender2070 | dead tree books don't suffer amazon's memory hole | Jul 06 19:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody You can also check this email to W3C from dotGNU leader, summarizing well how it differs from Mono: http://is.gd/dhFzi | Jul 06 19:03 | |
| Techrights | Title: Comments from the perspective of the DotGNU project from Norbert Bollow on 2003-03-27 (www-patentpolicy-comment@w3.org from March 2003) .::. Size~: 11.07 KB | Jul 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | neither does my pda/phone | Jul 06 19:03 |
| cubezzz | project gutenberg | Jul 06 19:03 |
| cubezzz | even better than amazon | Jul 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | also, dead tree books require external light sources | Jul 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | and they don't automatically remember where you last opened them | Jul 06 19:03 |
| ender2070 | so does the device that you read ebooks on | Jul 06 19:03 |
| cubezzz | yeah 5 watts :) | Jul 06 19:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @glynmoody in particular the paragraph beginning with «Since the DotGNU project is committed to using the GNU GPL(...)» | Jul 06 19:04 | |
| cubezzz | 5V on zaurus | Jul 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | and they can't be backed up quickly and free of cost in unlimited copies :> | Jul 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | the device i read ebooks on has backlight :> | Jul 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | though epaper would not | Jul 06 19:04 |
| cubezzz | I even turn down the brightness on the zaurus | Jul 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | yet i eventually want to get an epaper ebook | Jul 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | my n97 automatically sets the brightness | Jul 06 19:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rumours About #Linux- based #Android 3.0 http://ur1.ca/0kbiy http://ur1.ca/0kbiz http://ur1.ca/0kbj0 | Jul 06 19:05 | |
| MinceR | also, dead tree books aren't so easy to share with friends | Jul 06 19:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Google Music, Android 3.0 To Launch Together This Year | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.78 KB | Jul 06 19:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Android 3.0 rumors take off - consumer electronics, Google, Google Android, mobile phones - Techworld .::. Size~: 49.71 KB | Jul 06 19:05 |
| cubezzz | plus my zaurus uses open source OS and open source ereader software | Jul 06 19:05 |
| Techrights | Title: Google scotches android rumours - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 54.17 KB | Jul 06 19:05 |
| ender2070 | dead tree books don't have DRM | Jul 06 19:05 |
| cubezzz | yeah I think we beat that horse dead | Jul 06 19:05 |
| MinceR | i read that as "Google scotches android tumours" | Jul 06 19:05 |
| ender2070 | and they'll last through an apocalypse | Jul 06 19:05 |
| MinceR | text files don't use DRM either | Jul 06 19:05 |
| ender2070 | you know the lost city of altantis probably had all of its shit backed up on computers which decomposed too | Jul 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | and they'll last through an apocalypse via off-site backup | Jul 06 19:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Motorola #Droid and Droid X Coming, Mocking Apple http://ur1.ca/0kbk3 http://ur1.ca/0kbk4 http://ur1.ca/0kbk5 | Jul 06 19:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I mean, it's hard NOT to miss such kinds of points. | Jul 06 19:06 | |
| Techrights | Title: Android 2.2 Slated for Motorola Droid July 13, Droid X for August - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek .::. Size~: 99.31 KB | Jul 06 19:06 |
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| MinceR | while dead tree books will burn :> | Jul 06 19:06 |
| cubezzz | haha | Jul 06 19:06 |
| Techrights | Title: Full Page NYT Ad Shows Droid X: Hold the Phone Any Way You Like it | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 34.4 KB | Jul 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | the computers of atlantis did not decompose | Jul 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | don't you watch sga? | Jul 06 19:06 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 06 19:06 |
| cubezzz | yeah I'm switching to chisels and granite slabs | Jul 06 19:06 |
| ender2070 | humans have lost so much data | Jul 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | bittorrent ensures many books are backed up even as we speak :> | Jul 06 19:07 |
| ender2070 | the druids never wrote anything down, it was all verbal tradition and the british slaughtered them | Jul 06 19:07 |
| cubezzz | did you know when computers had magnetic cores they kept their memory contents? | Jul 06 19:07 |
| cubezzz | magnetic core ruled in it's day | Jul 06 19:07 |
| MinceR | they still keep some of their memory contents | Jul 06 19:07 |
| MinceR | *ROM, SRAM, flash ROM | Jul 06 19:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Linux Phones, This Time From Sony Ericsson, Reaching Emerging Markets http://ur1.ca/0kbk4 http://ur1.ca/0kbl0 http://ur1.ca/0kbl2 | Jul 06 19:08 | |
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| cubezzz | yeah I use compact flash on the Z | Jul 06 19:08 |
| MinceR | battery-backed DRAM :> | Jul 06 19:08 |
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| ender2070 | generally thats why people who are serious rig their pc with thermite | Jul 06 19:08 |
| ender2070 | 'retrieve that!' | Jul 06 19:09 |
| cubezzz | I liked the original cylons better | Jul 06 19:09 |
| ender2070 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | Jul 06 19:09 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jul 06 19:10 |
| ender2070 | I like the newer ones | Jul 06 19:10 |
| cubezzz | and now Prince declares the internet dead | Jul 06 19:10 |
| MinceR | and the Internet declares Prince dead. | Jul 06 19:11 |
| cubezzz | yeah :) | Jul 06 19:11 |
| MinceR | Internet wins, Flawless Victory | Jul 06 19:11 |
| cubezzz | I knew that was coming | Jul 06 19:11 |
| ender2070 | i kind of stopped watching BSG once they got to the planet they tried to settle on | Jul 06 19:11 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there's another Prince who actually made good music | Jul 06 19:11 |
| MinceR | Bobby Prince. | Jul 06 19:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Intel analyst to be charged over iraq-slaughter video: http://bradleymanning.org/ | Jul 06 19:13 | |
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| cubezzz | wow, you can get 128gig compact flash now | Jul 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | not bad | Jul 06 19:15 |
| ender2070 | be careful with your reader | Jul 06 19:16 |
| cubezzz | there's tons of cheap zauruses on ebay, but yeah I'm careful | Jul 06 19:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Save Private Manning: http://bradleymanning.org/ | Jul 06 19:17 | |
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| ender2070 | i dont think it will read something that big | Jul 06 19:20 |
| cubezzz | well I know 4 gig works | Jul 06 19:20 |
| cubezzz | there's no reason the bigger ones won't work | Jul 06 19:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Let's put the swiss verdict against OS/FS aside for the next two hours of NED v URU. #needbeer | Jul 06 19:21 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Charge sheet now in HTML http://bit.ly/9MiFZZ the video: http://collateralmurder.com/ | Jul 06 19:21 | |
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| cubezzz | just format for ext2 and off you go | Jul 06 19:21 |
| cubezzz | CF isn't a problem but SD is | Jul 06 19:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Independence Day Uses as Opportunity to Promote Software #Freedom http://ur1.ca/0kbre http://ur1.ca/0jmy3 http://ur1.ca/0junm | Jul 06 19:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @jwildeboer WHAT!?!?!?!?! | Jul 06 19:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] URU players singing. NED next at the vuvuzela concert. #wclive | Jul 06 19:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Free Software and Linux Events http://ur1.ca/0kbu3 http://ur1.ca/0kbu4 http://ur1.ca/0kbu5 http://ur1.ca/0kbu6 http://ur1.ca/0j7x5 | Jul 06 19:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Took a bit longer, but... damn... | Jul 06 19:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] The games is ON! #wclive | Jul 06 19:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] If the charges against Manning are true, he will be the Daniel Ellsberg of our times. | Jul 06 19:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cuts in UK Education May Motivate More Migrations to FOSS, Malaysian Government Sets Example http://ur1.ca/0kc1t http://ur1.ca/0kc1u | Jul 06 19:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenCore Business Fever Spreads to Hadoop, Prevails at #Zenoss http://ur1.ca/0kc29 http://ur1.ca/0kc2a | Jul 06 20:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #OpenBSD Magazine, Richard Stallman Explains Freedom http://ur1.ca/0j346 http://ur1.ca/0kc3y #gnu #fsf | Jul 06 20:07 | |
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| lucasz | hi jono! | Jul 06 20:10 |
| jono | hey lucasz | Jul 06 20:10 |
| jono | :) | Jul 06 20:10 |
| lucasz | how goes severedfifth? | Jul 06 20:11 |
| jono | lucasz, really well thanks :) | Jul 06 20:12 |
| jono | you should join #severedfifth :) | Jul 06 20:12 |
| lucasz | maybe another time :) | Jul 06 20:12 |
| lucasz | jono: I'm currently being amused by ender2070's vandalism and harassment of david schlesinger on wikipedia | Jul 06 20:13 |
| lucasz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Access_Co. | Jul 06 20:14 |
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| lucasz | wondered how schestowitz felt about this ... immoral activity of one of the contributors to his site | Jul 06 20:14 |
| jono | lucasz, wow, so lame | Jul 06 20:14 |
| lucasz | indeed | Jul 06 20:14 |
| lucasz | especially since schestowitz himself has contributed to this fight | Jul 06 20:15 |
| lucasz | by attacking david schlesinger and Access the past few days | Jul 06 20:15 |
| jono | amazes me | Jul 06 20:15 |
| lucasz | same here | Jul 06 20:15 |
| jono | kids are dying in the world and people are amusing themselves with this shit | Jul 06 20:15 |
| lucasz | indeed | Jul 06 20:16 |
| MinceR | so you guys are in the anti-FLOSS FUD crowd then? | Jul 06 20:16 |
| lucasz | I'm in the pro-FOSS crowd | Jul 06 20:16 |
| lucasz | as I believe is jono | Jul 06 20:16 |
| MinceR | (the ones who like to attack RMS because they can't understand a joke) | Jul 06 20:16 |
| jono | MinceR, I am in the "stop being dicks" crowd :-) | Jul 06 20:16 |
| lucasz | the joke wasn't funny, even Alan Cox agreed with that | Jul 06 20:16 |
| lucasz | jono: yea, same | Jul 06 20:17 |
| MinceR | yet it was a joke | Jul 06 20:17 |
| jono | I love Free Software and I love it when Free Software people can get along together | Jul 06 20:17 |
| MinceR | lefty is not a Free Software person | Jul 06 20:17 |
| MinceR | and access is not a Free Software company | Jul 06 20:17 |
| lucasz | he is more of a free software person than any of you people who engage in this immoral (and questionably legal) harassment | Jul 06 20:17 |
| MinceR | iirc they were stirring shit about Gnome, among other things | Jul 06 20:17 |
| MinceR | lucasz: what has lefty done for FLOSS apart from attacking people who participate in it? | Jul 06 20:18 |
| lucasz | he has contributed a lot | Jul 06 20:18 |
| jono | MinceR, bullshit, lefty is a free software person | Jul 06 20:18 |
| MinceR | can you give some examples? | Jul 06 20:18 |
| lucasz | he's given numerous talks, contributed financially | Jul 06 20:18 |
| lucasz | what have *you* done? | Jul 06 20:18 |
| jono | you might not like his views, but he is | Jul 06 20:18 |
| MinceR | wow, numerous talks | Jul 06 20:18 |
| MinceR | i have contributed code | Jul 06 20:18 |
| jono | he is actively involved in GNOME | Jul 06 20:18 |
| MinceR | and spread the word | Jul 06 20:18 |
| jono | and actively spreading free software on phones | Jul 06 20:19 |
| lucasz | jono: indeed | Jul 06 20:19 |
| jono | anyway, I have stuff to do | Jul 06 20:19 |
| jono | laters! | Jul 06 20:19 |
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| MinceR | ALP is free software now? | Jul 06 20:19 |
| lucasz | me too, I'm done here | Jul 06 20:19 |
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| MinceR | interesting. | Jul 06 20:19 |
| MinceR | i guess FUDding someone who complains because FSF resources are abused to advertise patent-encumbered proprietary crap is considered "pro-free software" by some people. | Jul 06 20:20 |
| cubezzz | hmm? | Jul 06 20:20 |
| cubezzz | what happened? | Jul 06 20:20 |
| MinceR | iirc the Gnome/GNU Project issue was about that | Jul 06 20:21 |
| MinceR | and it was lefty and access who pushed for gnome's departure from the gnu project | Jul 06 20:21 |
| cubezzz | oh that | Jul 06 20:21 |
| cubezzz | oh well, lots of other window managers | Jul 06 20:21 |
| MinceR | but at least now we know that jono supports that asshole | Jul 06 20:22 |
| MinceR | some fine company canonical is turning out to be, isn't it? | Jul 06 20:22 |
| cubezzz | I don't even use Ubuntu | Jul 06 20:22 |
| cubezzz | there's tons of good stuff out there | Jul 06 20:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] With kicks in the face and a very amateuristic referee URU might even be able to win. #wclive | Jul 06 20:24 | |
| cubezzz | which WM does stallman use? | Jul 06 20:25 |
| cubezzz | lately I've been using icewm and old KDE | Jul 06 20:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] hey @fabsh, where are you? ;-) | Jul 06 20:26 | |
| MinceR | have you tried Trinity Desktop Environment? | Jul 06 20:28 |
| cubezzz | nope | Jul 06 20:29 |
| MinceR | (though apparently they don't have any releases yet) | Jul 06 20:30 |
| cubezzz | ummm | Jul 06 20:30 |
| cubezzz | that's the continuation of KDE3? | Jul 06 20:31 |
| MinceR | yes | Jul 06 20:31 |
| cubezzz | Ive heard of it | Jul 06 20:31 |
| MinceR | i've heard of it and read its page but haven't tried | Jul 06 20:32 |
| MinceR | it | Jul 06 20:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] See how #oauth is so secure and do good? http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/50081/trunk grab elmdentica's sikrits! | Jul 06 20:33 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Complex, Multicellular Life from Over Two Billion Years Ago Discovered http://ur1.ca/0kcam !science | Jul 06 20:38 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian musician-turned-MP challenges minister on new copyright law http://ur1.ca/0kcay | Jul 06 20:38 | |
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| cubezzz | got a reply from TVO | Jul 06 20:40 |
| cubezzz | "Videos on our website are served using the Brightcove video platform. | Jul 06 20:42 |
| cubezzz | These files are in MP4 format but require Flash to play them." | Jul 06 20:42 |
| cubezzz | "Our in-house productions | Jul 06 20:43 |
| cubezzz | such as Allan Gregg in Conversation, Big Ideas and The Agenda with Steve | Jul 06 20:43 |
| cubezzz | Paikin are also available to download as podcasts, which are in MP4 | Jul 06 20:43 |
| cubezzz | format" | Jul 06 20:43 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft hates people smarter than them.... wait, thats not news at all! http://ur1.ca/0kcc1 | Jul 06 20:43 | |
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| cubezzz | guess I didn't look hard enough | Jul 06 20:43 |
| cubezzz | the in-house stuff is m4v and freely downloadable | Jul 06 20:47 |
| cubezzz | ok, TVO gets the thumbs up again | Jul 06 20:58 |
| cubezzz | except for the flash crud :) | Jul 06 20:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] hey, Oli Kahn! Botox doesnt fit you. | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @udovetter Nach dem Finale kommt raus, dass Olli Kahn Hape Kerkeling ist. | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Has Better GUIs Than Proprietary Competition, Making GNU/Linux More Efficient http://ur1.ca/0kcci http://ur1.ca/0kccj | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #HPC , #Mainframe , #Server Evidence of #GNU #Linux Omnipresence http://ur1.ca/0kcch http://ur1.ca/0kcck http://ur1.ca/0kccl | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Missing ole times of "keine gefahr für van der Sar" #wclive | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] CSS & JS code w/ Based64 encoded image can be coded inside html. Well it means you can have full web application in a SINGLE html file. #web | Jul 06 21:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Five New #Linux Audiocasts http://ur1.ca/0kce1 http://ur1.ca/0kce2 http://ur1.ca/0kce3 http://ur1.ca/0ig7s http://ur1.ca/0kce8 | Jul 06 21:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Tablets to Run #GNU /Ballnux, More Phones With #Ballnux Are Coming http://ur1.ca/0kce4 http://ur1.ca/0kce5 http://ur1.ca/0kce7 | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] kindergarden level football URU convinced that penalties preferred option so stop playing and switch to concrete style defence. #wclive | Jul 06 21:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Stolpertor. But NED scores. #wclive | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] mua mua.. Love the Single file demo on Chrome - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99LfOF3qis #chrome Any Firefox addon for same purpose ? | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] 3:1 NED on its way to the final at #wclive | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.2 is Nearly Out, Enabling Proprietary Software on #Linux http://ur1.ca/0kciz http://ur1.ca/0kcj0 | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Release Candidate of #Linux (Kernel Space), Stable Ones Too http://ur1.ca/0kch9 http://ur1.ca/0kcha http://ur1.ca/0kche | Jul 06 21:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Games for #GNU #Linux : LettersFall 2.0, MegaGlest 3.3.5 http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/15417 | Jul 06 21:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] YES! Eat that @fabsh : -) | Jul 06 21:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Absolute #Linux 13.1.2 and Truly Free(dom) GNU/Linux Distributions http://ur1.ca/0kcsh http://ur1.ca/0kcsi | Jul 06 21:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at Light #GNU #Linux Distributions Which Pack a Lot of Features http://ur1.ca/0kcsg http://ur1.ca/0kcsj | Jul 06 21:34 | |
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| cubezzz | hmm? | Jul 06 21:35 |
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| Shadowww|RDP | hai guis, anyone willing to tell me what's wrong with Microsoft? | Jul 06 21:38 |
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| MinceR | read the site. :> | Jul 06 21:39 |
| Shadowww|RDP | cool argument bro | Jul 06 21:39 |
| Shadowww|RDP | O HAI MIKROSOFT STOLE OUR FIREFAWRKZ MARKET SHARE | Jul 06 21:39 |
| Shadowww|RDP | wait, rite. IE 9 pp3 already owns firefox | Jul 06 21:39 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and that's not even beta | Jul 06 21:39 |
| Shadowww|RDP | etc | Jul 06 21:39 |
| MinceR | congratulations for your arguments | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | k | Jul 06 21:40 |
| MinceR | have a medal | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | tell me | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | why firefox so shitty | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | it doesnt supports ICC v4 | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and no TIFF | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | and no JPEG XR | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ? | Jul 06 21:40 |
| MinceR | go back to the linsux channel | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | wat | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | where i said linux sux | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ? | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | i use arch everyday | Jul 06 21:40 |
| Shadowww|RDP | sry | Jul 06 21:40 |
| MinceR | and then the old "i use/like linux but" argument | Jul 06 21:41 |
| MinceR | can you entertain us with something new? | Jul 06 21:41 |
| Shadowww|RDP | where i said linux sux | Jul 06 21:41 |
| Shadowww|RDP | ? | Jul 06 21:41 |
| Shadowww|RDP | where i said smth about linux at all? | Jul 06 21:41 |
| Shadowww|RDP | another moron who cant read | Jul 06 21:41 |
| Shadowww|RDP | awesome | Jul 06 21:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:41] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: hrm what you think of this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10514367.stm | Jul 06 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | I saw it earlier, it's embarrassing | Jul 06 21:42 |
| Shadowww|RDP | rite let's check how good GPL-licensed IRC bots are | Jul 06 21:44 |
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| Shadowww|RDP | /haax.in/ http://haax.in/ http://haax.in/ http://haax.in/ | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
| Siyo | :| | Jul 06 21:44 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:44 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| *Shadowww|RDP (shadowww@2002:bca5:c3ab::bca5:c3ab) has left #boycottnovell ("Leaving") | Jul 06 21:45 | |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
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| ThistleWeb | wtf? | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| ThistleWeb | ah a scriptkiddie | Jul 06 21:45 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
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| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| Techrights | Title: Siyo Shadowww|RDP amarsh04 neighborlee Python1320 ThistleWeb MadRobot sebsebseb Diablo-D3 squarepeg Techrights Aondo MinceR cubezzz |circlederp| schestowitz draoan Thrae tessier schestowitz_log BNi BNtwitter benJIman @ChanServ zoobab desu Wulf-is-not-here .::. Size~: 0.3 KB | Jul 06 21:45 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Techrights from #boycottnovell (User term) | Jul 06 21:45 | |
| Python1320 | lolrage | Jul 06 21:45 |
| cubezzz | umm | Jul 06 21:47 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to MinceR | Jul 06 21:47 | |
| MinceR | thx | Jul 06 21:47 |
| ThistleWeb | well, that was grown up......for a 5yr old | Jul 06 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | the | Jul 06 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | fuck? | Jul 06 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | your bot went nuts dude | Jul 06 21:47 |
| MinceR | it has no limit on the number of urls it prints the title for | Jul 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | It did what it's supposed to do when kids are not around | Jul 06 21:48 |
| MinceR | that needs to be fixed | Jul 06 21:48 |
| MinceR | the kiddies always exploit it | Jul 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Must be the toddlers from Lins*** | Jul 06 21:48 |
| MinceR | in fact we could just kickban on the "haax.in" url because it's only ever used for this | Jul 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe once in several months | Jul 06 21:48 |
| MinceR | they don't deserve to succeed at this | Jul 06 21:49 |
| MinceR | ever | Jul 06 21:49 |
| ThistleWeb | just goes to show the debate level....cant debate, so just try to silence | Jul 06 21:50 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@2002:bca5:c3ab::bca5:* | Jul 06 21:50 | |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*@188.165.* | Jul 06 21:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody BBC's approach to combating online piracy - http://bit.ly/9IE3ig "promotion of copyright awareness": so BBC does propaganda.. | Jul 06 22:01 | |
| MinceR | http://tissi.apina.biz/full/31957.jpg | Jul 06 22:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Patent Lawyer Insists Open Source Stifles Innovation - http://bit.ly/dsCbeY @mmasnick reads and rebuts this stuff so we don't have to | Jul 06 22:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] AP Not Amused By The Woot Story, Tries To Play The Oil Spill Card - http://tcrn.ch/bHSm5u kudos, TechCrunch; the opposite to #AP | Jul 06 22:31 | |
| schestowitz | [19:05] <MinceR> i read that as "Google scotches android tumours" | Jul 06 22:33 |
| schestowitz | SteveB did too | Jul 06 22:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Patent Lawyer Insists Open Source Stifles Innovation - http://bit.ly/dsCbeY @mmasnick reads and rebuts this stuff | Jul 06 22:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Free ‘BitTorrent VPN’ Grows to 300,000 Members in a Year - http://bit.ly/cJ9QfC what could be driving that? #vpn #deact | Jul 06 22:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I just loved the Maff file format #maf http://maf.mozdev.org/index.html | Jul 06 22:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Save Private Manning: http://bradleymanning.org/ | Jul 06 22:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Smooth Transition of #Debian #GNU #Linux Upgrades http://ur1.ca/0kdah | Jul 06 22:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux News, 10.10 Alpha 2 Additions, More http://ur1.ca/0kdaj http://ur1.ca/0kdak http://ur1.ca/0kdal http://ur1.ca/0kdam | Jul 06 22:38 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to tessier | Jul 06 22:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @wikileaks Save Private Manning: http://bradleymanning.org/ | Jul 06 22:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Business of Open Data - http://bit.ly/bTayVZ how long before we see the Red Hat of #opendata? #businessmodels | Jul 06 22:40 | |
| MinceR | and now for something completely different -- some bullshit from muslim cultists in control of a country: http://www.payvand.com/news/10/jul/1044.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab | Jul 06 22:48 |
| MinceR | (poster says they will be enforced) | Jul 06 22:49 |
| MinceR | (poster of comment on a blog, that is) | Jul 06 22:49 |
| sebsebseb | what was that? MinceR 's bot flooding the channel? | Jul 06 22:51 |
| MinceR | the bot isn't mine | Jul 06 22:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: whos then? | Jul 06 22:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: schestowitz ? | Jul 06 22:52 |
| sebsebseb | and who was shadow? | Jul 06 22:52 |
| MinceR | not sure who coded it (probably trmanco) and i guess schestowitz is hosting it | Jul 06 22:53 |
| MinceR | and shadow is a linsux troll | Jul 06 22:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why Arduino Is a Hit With Hardware Hackers - http://bit.ly/cEmqYM fair points #arduino #beagleboard #openhardware | Jul 06 22:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ubuntu Variants: Aurora, Satanic Edition, Netrunner http://ur1.ca/0kdf9 http://ur1.ca/0kdfb http://ur1.ca/0kdfd | Jul 06 22:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux a Ubiquitous Component of e-Book Readers, Some Made Hackable http://ur1.ca/0kdfc http://ur1.ca/0kdff | Jul 06 22:57 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked tessier from #boycottnovell (User term) | Jul 06 23:00 | |
| schestowitz | oops | Jul 06 23:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Firefox 4 Beta 1: Tell us what you think! - http://bit.ly/d39wdR lots of good stuff #firefox4 #beta #mozilla | Jul 06 23:01 | |
| schestowitz | Wrong key | Jul 06 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: | Jul 06 23:03 |
| schestowitz | What is the key to bring back main menu? | Jul 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz | in konversation? | Jul 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz | ah | Jul 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz | CTRL+M | Jul 06 23:05 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on Hababa!*@* | Jul 06 23:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] #firefox4 #beta #mozilla is available http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/ | Jul 06 23:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] same here RT: @chrismessina: Downloading Firefox 4.0b1: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/ | Jul 06 23:08 | |
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| TechrightsBot | Hello World! | Jul 06 23:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] We’ve packaged all of the free software…what now? - http://bit.ly/aIJ9e5 good question #packaging #opensource | Jul 06 23:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of the $99 #Linux Home Server/NAS, Linux Grows in "Smart Consumer Devices Market" http://ur1.ca/0kdj4 http://ur1.ca/0kdj5 | Jul 06 23:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Bets on Own #Linux Platform (MeeGo), Not #Android (Also Linux) http://ur1.ca/0kdj7 http://ur1.ca/0kdj8 | Jul 06 23:15 | |
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| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkC7dcxZ5_Q | Jul 06 23:22 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Wins Heart of #Symbian Guru and #Nokia is Hurt http://ur1.ca/0kdkk | Jul 06 23:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Netflix is Coming to Android, OpenBallnux Build Service Does Too http://ur1.ca/0kdkm http://ur1.ca/0kdkn | Jul 06 23:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/07/h4x0r3d-no-more.html | Jul 06 23:24 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Love live Firefox. Time to uninstall Opera and Chrome because Firefox 4 beta is here. WebGL WebSocket, Webm, SMIL animation. #firefox #beta | Jul 06 23:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Why I am excited about Firefox 4 Beta - My review on Firefox 4 beta #firefox #firefox4 #beta http://post.ly/m8OJ | Jul 06 23:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Turning the tables: Virginia AG Cuccinelli under investigation for climate probe by Greenpeace - http://bit.ly/bsXIQ0 the biter bit? | Jul 06 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Turning the tables: Virginia AG Cuccinelli under investigation for climate probe by Greenpeace (posting from Climate Science Watch) .::. Size~: 20.59 KB | Jul 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... why promote proprietary? http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/7112/1/ | Jul 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz | "Having completed its acquisition of Palm late last week, Hewlett-Packard (HP) is now laying off Palm staff "in the double digits," says All Things Digital. Meanwhile, HP is giving away free Palm Pre and Palm Pixi phones with a two-year contract on AT&T and Verizon, says eWEEK." | Jul 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-acquires-Palm-and-cuts-staff/?kc=rss | Jul 06 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: HP cuts Palm staff, offers discounts on Pre phones - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.54 KB | Jul 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Let's hope they don't 'pull a KIN' | Jul 06 23:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Counts in Sub-notebooks, Form Factors Improve http://ur1.ca/0kdo1 http://ur1.ca/0kdo2 | Jul 06 23:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Tablet Does More Than Apple's Out of the Box http://www.junauza.com/2010/07/cisco-cius-android-tablet-unveiled.html | Jul 06 23:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Firefox 4 for developers #firefox #firefox4 #developers #web https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Firefox_4_for_developers | Jul 06 23:40 | |
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| schestowitz | http://daringfireball.net/2010/07/translation_iphone_4 | Jul 06 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Daring Fireball: Translation From Apple's Unique Dialect of PR-Speak to English of the 'Letter From Apple Regarding iPhone 4' .::. Size~: 11.15 KB | Jul 06 23:42 |
| ThistleWeb | endgaget podcast talking about MS's fake marketing around the Kin | Jul 06 23:44 |
| ThistleWeb | ep 203 | Jul 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://vowe.net/archives/011556.html | Jul 06 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yes, I wrote about some | Jul 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz | But what do they say in Engadget? | Jul 06 23:45 |
| ThistleWeb | nothing outstanding, other than it was pretty obvious that MS use fake marketing to hype the Kin, that nobody thought to tell them "hang on this phone's not actually that good" | Jul 06 23:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Still using Mandriva? | Jul 06 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | mentioning about stuff they were caught doing like having actors invent personal lives and fitting the Kin into them | Jul 06 23:47 |
| ThistleWeb | it's around the 45min mark | Jul 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Apple does that too | Jul 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft did guerilla marketing for Zune and the dude they sent got arrested | Jul 06 23:48 |
| schestowitz | http://gizmodo.com/244276/zune-guerrilla-marketer-arrested-at-sxsw | Jul 06 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/14/austin-pd-arrests-zune-viral-marketers-at-sxsw/ | Jul 06 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 06 23:49 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Jul 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Watch him escorted in handcuffs | Jul 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz | "I work for Microsoft. It was my idea." | Jul 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz | They should do the same with some Microsoft executives | Jul 06 23:49 |
| ThistleWeb | I note the Vista ads dont do the "I'm vista, this is my idea" | Jul 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Those who cause greater harm | Jul 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: it's the blame thing | Jul 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz | "If your idea, so it's YOUR fault" | Jul 06 23:50 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah | Jul 06 23:50 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/News/2010/06/21/IA2_1.2 << Don't be upset by this licence change. It will make wine be able to automated test better. | Jul 06 23:54 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jul 06 23:57 |
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