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| ender2070 | ROFLMAO | Jul 09 00:11 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ROFL - Spock's Brain: Condensed - http://2tu.us/2fx3 | Jul 09 00:13 | |
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| schestowitz | Oh no | Jul 09 00:15 |
| schestowitz | The madman is back :-) | Jul 09 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 09 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Today's rant........ | Jul 09 00:15 |
| schestowitz | For his next act, ryan will perform an act of fuming | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | it's all the fault of [updike|gypsies|blacks|mexicans|jews] | Jul 09 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Or the crazy neighbours downstairs | Jul 09 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Jul 09 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Legion of Doom | Jul 09 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still trying to trace back the Updike name to Jews | Jul 09 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | I know it all has to lead back there somehow | Jul 09 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's the only possible explanation | Jul 09 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | The Juillerats are easier to make fun of | Jul 09 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 09 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Hotmail flagged my Amazon shipping confirmation as Junk | Jul 09 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | way to go | Jul 09 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, fast shipper | Jul 09 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | This shipment will be delivered by USPS. | Jul 09 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | uh oh | Jul 09 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | might end up in Kansas | Jul 09 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I really do need to run for office | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | You won't be elected | Jul 09 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to introduce a bill to make it legal to flog public servants who have done something egregiously stupid | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | You need companies supporting you to reward them | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Like Updike | Jul 09 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I wasted almost an hour just now | Jul 09 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Updike, the Postal worker, the fat lady you always get stuck with at Department of Motor Vehicles.... | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | I tried finding an IRC logger | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | command line | Jul 09 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The possibilities are endless | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Then I realied what I had already worked | Jul 09 00:25 |
| schestowitz | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....... | Jul 09 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Does the DMV work like that everywhere? | Jul 09 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | You always get caught in a 3 hour line, then you get the hippo lady that doesn't know "the new system" | Jul 09 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | so she calls over her even fatter supervisor who also doesn't know | Jul 09 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | and all you're there for is to change your address | Jul 09 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | and you're thinking "Just let me do it, I probably only have to type in the new address and hit ENTER, but they're paying you $15 an hour to do this and get it wrong" | Jul 09 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have done the Holly into on Red Dwarf like this: "I am Holly, the ship's computer, with an IQ of 6,000. That's roughly 18,000 Department of Motor Vehicles employees." | Jul 09 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | or | Jul 09 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | 48,000 Postal workers | Jul 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | ??? | Jul 09 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz Parkview Hospital in Fort Wayne has "valet parking" now | Jul 09 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | I told the guy I'd take care of it because I didn't want another $20,000 added to my hospital bill | Jul 09 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | seriously, they're sending people $10,000 ER bills while they hire parking attendants | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | I don't know... | Jul 09 00:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's off topic | Jul 09 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | you said you expected me to fume about something | Jul 09 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Not encouraging it | Jul 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz | your friend the b man (jonoB) will get upset] | Jul 09 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've always wanted to be a parking attendant, sabotage peoples Mercedes and such | Jul 09 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Let's talk computets | Jul 09 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | There was a guy in Yahoo Answers a while back asking how he could get away with parking his Mercedes in a Handicapped spot so people wouldn't door ding it | Jul 09 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | he said there were "a lot of Obama stickers on the surrounding cars", so it was probably a" high crime neighborhood" | Jul 09 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | I suggested he park it sideways and take up three handicapped spots so he could manage to be an even more colossally stupid asshole | Jul 09 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: People with money eventually understand that the rules don't apply to them | Jul 09 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | what does a $50 infraction ticket mean to a person with a Mercedes? nothing | Jul 09 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | you act surprised that rich people don't care about fines | Jul 09 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | the $50 fine is to keep poor people out of the handicapped zone so rich people can park there | Jul 09 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Once you understand this concept, you'll find that it scales | Jul 09 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 00:39 |
| schestowitz | ryan, back on topic pls | Jul 09 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | fines are set such to where they deter POOR people from committing petty offenses that bother the rich people | Jul 09 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | or to where they punish small companies in favor of established ones that can pay the fines | Jul 09 00:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SCO Still Wants #UNIX From #Novell http://techrights.org/2010/07/08/back-into-the-endless-loop/ | Jul 09 00:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You could start a foundation | Jul 09 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | to buy SCO | Jul 09 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I can't | Jul 09 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm broke :0-) | Jul 09 01:01 |
| schestowitz | SCO is still worth some millions | Jul 09 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | they're five cents a share | Jul 09 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | for the price of a cup of coffee at the gas station, you could own 20 shares of SCO | Jul 09 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | hell, between everyone in the room, we could own half the company | Jul 09 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | they've been as low as 2 cents a share this year | Jul 09 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/07/judge_declares_3.html | Jul 09 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Judge declares US gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional - Local News Updates - MetroDesk - The Boston Globe .::. Size~: 55.01 KB | Jul 09 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 09 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | that technically means that even states where it's illegal have to recognize it now | Jul 09 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | if it was done in other states | Jul 09 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | and so does the federal government | Jul 09 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | (until the ruling is overturned anyway) | Jul 09 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Watch Obama have the feds fight this | Jul 09 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | I wish I could have my vote back so I could just stay at home | Jul 09 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Obama white house is more concerned with the rights of illegal aliens than legal US citizens once again | Jul 09 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | when it comes to illegal aliens, they'll invent new clauses in the Constitution | Jul 09 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | when it comes to equal rights, they'll ignore plainly worded ones that have always been in there | Jul 09 01:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: got some locats-ready images of jabba? | Jul 09 01:11 |
| schestowitz | *lolcats | Jul 09 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I HAS GHEY DAD AN TURND OUT BETTR THAN ANY OV UR KIDZ. | Jul 09 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | how's that? | Jul 09 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/07/07/wal-mart-pulling-out-the-big-guns-to-fight-7000-fine/ | Jul 09 01:15 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Wal-Mart Pulling Out the Big Guns to Fight $7,000 Fine - Law Blog - WSJ .::. Size~: 83.51 KB | Jul 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Everything is guns to you | Jul 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Yank press.... | Jul 09 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | "In contesting the penalty, Wal-Mart has filed 20 motions and responses totaling nearly 400 pages and has spent at least $2 million on legal fees, according to OSHA’s calculations." | Jul 09 01:15 |
| schestowitz | OSHA? | Jul 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz | The singer? | Jul 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz | Usher | Jul 09 01:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eye on Apple: #hypePhone Beaten by #Linux http://techrights.org/2010/07/08/hypephone-assessments/ Some links about the competition | Jul 09 01:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I hear in the UK, people are killed/mugged/robbed with sawed off shotguns and knives | Jul 09 01:16 |
| schestowitz | Prinounced by a Brit | Jul 09 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | "pulled out the big knives" | Jul 09 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | there, now maybe you understand | Jul 09 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | "filet that lawsuit like a fish" | Jul 09 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Crime levels here are quite low | Jul 09 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Gun crime is miniscule | Jul 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | of course | Jul 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | there are other weapons | Jul 09 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Gun crime is minuscule | Jul 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | would it make you feel better if they were pushed out of windows? | Jul 09 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Mortality is low too | Jul 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | (Archie Bunker line) :) | Jul 09 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have a variety of lethal and less-than-lethal weapons | Jul 09 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | but they're all legal | Jul 09 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | I went to lengths to get permits and registrations for some of them | Jul 09 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | no criminal would bother doing that | Jul 09 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | no criminal cares if he's in violation of Subsection D, Clause 9, Article 2, Paragraph 47 | Jul 09 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | or if it's a misdemeanor or a felony | Jul 09 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | in a criminal's mind, that doesn't register | Jul 09 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The UK has a unique situation | Jul 09 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | they can ban guns effectively because they don't border a third world country | Jul 09 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | but I still believe that criminals would use other weapons even if the government managed to outlaw legal guns | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're already unimpressed with legal weaponry anyway | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | they get fully automatic stuff from across the Mexican border | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | they have more firepower than a police officer | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | and none of it is legal | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | great job the law did there, that really showed them :P | Jul 09 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | tell that to the cop's family, I'm sure that the illegal/legal status of the Tek-9 that gunned down their dad really matters | Jul 09 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gun control laws are the only reason SWAT teams are even necessary | Jul 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | if more people were armed, they would just shoot the thug and go about the day | Jul 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | matter of factly | Jul 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You'll notice in the US, gun crime is the worst in places where guns are illegal or severely restricted | Jul 09 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | funny how that works out, huh? | Jul 09 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | they know that all their victims will be unarmed | Jul 09 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago's gun ban never worked | Jul 09 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | California's gun control laws have been a joke | Jul 09 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | every state or locality that tries to restrict legal gun ownership ends up with the opposite effect of what they were trying to achiefve | Jul 09 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Everywhere with strict gun control ends up with armed thugs controlling the streets that even the police won't approach | Jul 09 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Detroit is your model gun control city, schestowitz | Jul 09 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Michigan itself is a Liberal disaster area | Jul 09 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | high crime, high taxes, rampant unemployment, paying people to idle themselves and have kids | Jul 09 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | while oddly enough, a lot of the flight of capital isn't going to another country | Jul 09 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's ending up in Indiana | Jul 09 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | funny experiment isn't it? | Jul 09 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Example: I'm an employer. Michigan charges me high property taxes, high taxes on anyone I hire, taxes me on modernizing my facilities, charges me double the utilities fees, etc. | Jul 09 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana is a couple hundred miles away and I have none of those problems and all I really need to do is expand my operations there. | Jul 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Look... | Jul 09 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, time to fire all my workers in Michigan and hire another 5,000 people in Indiana | Jul 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz | You're going off topic with gun raves | Jul 09 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Wrong channel | Jul 09 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What's funny is that they even charge a 10 cent per can deposit on soda, so whenever I go fishing there, I bring thousands of pop cans that I paid no deposit on in Indiana | Jul 09 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | and it covers most of the trip | Jul 09 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | unmitigated disaster probably translates well to any language :) | Jul 09 01:33 |
| *DaemonFC wonders why people trample one another over the Black Friday sale anyway | Jul 09 01:34 | |
| DaemonFC | it's all garbage | Jul 09 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | a $10 toaster is worth more than a human life | Jul 09 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Is that where the demon over on your other shoulder says "But it's a bagel toaster, and it's normally $12.87, just trample the guy, everyone else is, nobody would stop if it was you!" | Jul 09 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179010/NSA_says_Perfect_Citizen_is_a_research_program?taxonomyId=13 | Jul 09 01:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: NSA says 'Perfect Citizen' is a research program - Computerworld .::. Size~: 75.35 KB | Jul 09 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | and another Kin commercial | Jul 09 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think they were selling like hotcakes from all the TV ads | Jul 09 01:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Makes Top 10 of “Most Hateable Companies” http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1006/gallery.ten_hated_companies/2.html | Jul 09 01:41 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft employees ridicule the company's products http://ur1.ca/0lrgm | Jul 09 01:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Most hateable companies (not named BP) - #10. Microsoft (2) - CNNMoney.com .::. Size~: 39.19 KB | Jul 09 01:41 |
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| schestowitz | Those hotcakes need atention | Jul 09 01:41 |
| schestowitz | They are burned, not hot | Jul 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jul 09 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Next Tuesday is the last batch of updates for XP SP2 | Jul 09 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | should be interesting to see the spike in malware when people still don't install SP3 but aren't getting hotfixes anymore | Jul 09 01:44 |
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| cubezzz | tessier, you seen this one: | Jul 09 02:07 |
| cubezzz | http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~harry/Relay/ | Jul 09 02:08 |
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| tessier | cubezzz: Yes, that is the one I have been passing around. Very cool. | Jul 09 02:09 |
| cubezzz | 160 watts, not too bad | Jul 09 02:09 |
| tessier | MIPS/watt is...? :) | Jul 09 02:10 |
| cubezzz | probably terrible | Jul 09 02:11 |
| cubezzz | I'll stick with my 486 with 16 megs of ram :) | Jul 09 02:11 |
| cubezzz | if i was to try for something like that I would use ic's | Jul 09 02:12 |
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| tessier | But that would defeat the point. ICs are magic. We don't want magic. We want people to be able to see the flip-flopping parts. | Jul 09 02:13 |
| cubezzz | it would still be home-brew | Jul 09 02:13 |
| tessier | Sure but the point was to build an educational device. | Jul 09 02:13 |
| cubezzz | yes Harry Porter definitely did that | Jul 09 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | new Opera test build out already :) | Jul 09 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | in the words of South Park's Al Gore.... | Jul 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | EXCELSIOR!!!! | Jul 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Opera(v10.70) Scored: | Jul 09 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | 7353 Points | Jul 09 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeehaw | Jul 09 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | tessier: You can sing any Emily Dickinson poem to the tune of The Yellow Rose of Texas | Jul 09 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | true story :) | Jul 09 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've that song stuck in my head for no reason | Jul 09 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | caught myself whistling it | Jul 09 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | I had someone ask me to benchmark Safari :P | Jul 09 02:57 |
| *DaemonFC thinks he's hold his nose and do it | Jul 09 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC | it'll piss off Crapple fanboys | Jul 09 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | Safari 5 is barely any faster than Firefox :) | Jul 09 03:15 |
| *DaemonFC wonders if he can get himself sued for publishing this :) | Jul 09 03:15 | |
| DaemonFC | http://download.cnet.com/FileStream-SafeShield/3000-2162_4-75217004.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody | Jul 09 03:19 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 09 03:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Beef lovers unite!! #right2beef RT @gkjohn: We are one step closer to a beef-free Karnataka. The beef ban bill passes in the upper house. | Jul 09 04:06 | |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - if you had nationalized id like the rest of the world, you can update your address by swiping the card in an ATM like machine and skip the DMV | Jul 09 04:50 |
| ender2070 | like in Canada | Jul 09 04:52 |
| ender2070 | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://sites.google.com/site/redcodenl/creating-shazam-in-java-1&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | Jul 09 04:52 |
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| ender2070 | this is cache for the shazam-clone java code that was on slashdot | Jul 09 04:52 |
| ender2070 | we should mirror the shit out of it | Jul 09 04:53 |
| ender2070 | oh it is still up | Jul 09 04:55 |
| ender2070 | im going to ask him if I can repost it | Jul 09 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: The NAZI ID is being implemented by the DMV | Jul 09 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 05:02 |
| ender2070 | its a good thing! | Jul 09 05:12 |
| ender2070 | with that centralized database, makes it much easier to maintain and setup ATM like machines which you can use instead of talking to some stupid people at the DMV | Jul 09 05:12 |
| ender2070 | easier to track too! | Jul 09 05:13 |
| ender2070 | when a cop stops to harass you like they always do here, they can scan ur drivers license in their little computer instead of radioing in and wasting your time while checking your record | Jul 09 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: They can already do that | Jul 09 05:16 |
| ender2070 | oh ok | Jul 09 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | the old drivers licenses have a barcode the cop can scan | Jul 09 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | and it will pull up everything the DMV has on you | Jul 09 05:16 |
| ender2070 | this one pulls up police records | Jul 09 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | the state systems are linked | Jul 09 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the warrant system is linked too | Jul 09 05:17 |
| ender2070 | it also tells them if your license is real | Jul 09 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | any police officer in any state will know if you have any arrest warrants | Jul 09 05:17 |
| ender2070 | i got stopped once by a cop looking for someone who had a similar appearance to me | Jul 09 05:17 |
| ender2070 | he scanned my drivers license, and still kept me there for 10 minutes questioning me because he wasnt sure | Jul 09 05:17 |
| ender2070 | despite the valid id | Jul 09 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: That's two things that are connected at state level in every state | Jul 09 05:18 |
| ender2070 | even had his partner watch me while he drove around the block | Jul 09 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | DMV records and arrest warrants | Jul 09 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Say I'm out of the state, but a court in Indiana issues an arrest warrant | Jul 09 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I get picked up in another state, the cop sees the warrant | Jul 09 05:19 |
| ender2070 | they'll send u in | Jul 09 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | most of the time they'll hold me for up to 60 days so that the authorities in Indiana can come pick me up | Jul 09 05:19 |
| ender2070 | oh | Jul 09 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | no, the other state is not obligated to extradite you | Jul 09 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's up to the state that put the warrant out to come get you | Jul 09 05:20 |
| ender2070 | i doubt that will be like that forever | Jul 09 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | in practice, you always get arrested and extradited | Jul 09 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | common courtesy between the states :P | Jul 09 05:20 |
| ender2070 | ahhhh | Jul 09 05:20 |
| ender2070 | pretty sure that in Canada, its country wide not province wide | Jul 09 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | well, if it's a federal warrant, then they have to arrest you | Jul 09 05:21 |
| ender2070 | we're a neo-communist country | Jul 09 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | but if it's from another state they don't "have to: | Jul 09 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | but they do | Jul 09 05:21 |
| ender2070 | they probably do it so that they have the favour returned to them | Jul 09 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | now, every other state must recognize my driver's license | Jul 09 05:22 |
| ender2070 | i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine | Jul 09 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | because that's constitutional law | Jul 09 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | but I still have to follow all their traffic laws obviously | Jul 09 05:22 |
| ender2070 | you know what I found out? | Jul 09 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | for example, there's a few states where you can't turn right on red | Jul 09 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 05:22 |
| ender2070 | if you've never received a drivers license in your own country you can get a UN drivers license that works in every UN country | Jul 09 05:23 |
| ender2070 | they all have to acknowledge it | Jul 09 05:23 |
| ender2070 | and its easier than some countries national one | Jul 09 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's an international driver's license | Jul 09 05:23 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jul 09 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't mean you get to ignore their laws though | Jul 09 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 05:24 |
| ender2070 | of course not | Jul 09 05:24 |
| ender2070 | its just a step towards a world nazi id though | Jul 09 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, don't worry, he won't get far | Jul 09 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | we tagged him | Jul 09 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | :)\ | Jul 09 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | at birth | Jul 09 05:24 |
| ender2070 | it actually looks like every countries new national id's | Jul 09 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I still don't have a Real ID | Jul 09 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I have the old driver's license | Jul 09 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I renewed mine right before they switched over | Jul 09 05:25 |
| ender2070 | scary when you see proof of that the world is becoming one | Jul 09 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | so I get to keep it til this one expires | Jul 09 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want a federal ID | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | lol blizzard announced switching to Real ID for wow forums | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | and SC2 forums | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | bad move lol | Jul 09 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | They should have called it PASS ID | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | a blizzard employee posted his real name to show how safe it was | Jul 09 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | fooled like 3 people that way | Jul 09 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | within 5 minutes | Jul 09 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, bullshit | Jul 09 05:26 |
| ender2070 | his address, telephone number and photos were all published on the forums | Jul 09 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | now there's going to be the Blizzard Killer | Jul 09 05:27 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | running around killing warcraft players | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 05:27 |
| ender2070 | ROFL | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | starting with that employee | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 05:27 |
| ender2070 | you know what though? | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | maybe his DSL cut out | Jul 09 05:27 |
| ender2070 | most MMO players are complete douche bag tards | Jul 09 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe he got his throat ripped open by the Blizzard Killer!!!! | Jul 09 05:28 |
| ender2070 | especially wow players | Jul 09 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | GRAAAAAAWWWW!!!! | Jul 09 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 05:28 |
| ender2070 | i used to play wow to be honest, i've seen the kinds of stuff that come out of peoples mouths | Jul 09 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's like that black comedian I was watching once | Jul 09 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | "All the women in the room, say PENIS" | Jul 09 05:29 |
| ender2070 | i think my iq actually dropped from playing that game | Jul 09 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | "PENIS!" | Jul 09 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | "See, you let penis come out your mouth, why not let penis go in your mouth?" | Jul 09 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 05:29 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 09 05:30 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: Is weather.com a pile of shit lately | Jul 09 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | or is it just me? | Jul 09 05:45 |
| ender2070 | it always has | Jul 09 05:45 |
| ender2070 | its ms powered if I remember correctly | Jul 09 05:55 |
| ender2070 | http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=58238 | Jul 09 06:05 |
| ender2070 | bam! | Jul 09 06:05 |
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| ender2070 | I hope I get some money out of this | Jul 09 06:05 |
| ender2070 | if they win | Jul 09 06:05 |
| ender2070 | and I hope they do | Jul 09 06:05 |
| ender2070 | I think next month the federal government will be suing their asses off too | Jul 09 06:06 |
| ender2070 | they aren't complying with our privacy laws | Jul 09 06:06 |
| ender2070 | they opened it up even more | Jul 09 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | I just cranked my AC | Jul 09 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's only 74 out, but 94% humidity | Jul 09 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Jul 09 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.accuweather.com/us/in/huntington/46750/watches-warnings.asp | Jul 09 06:40 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: YOu notice all the record highs were before global warming was invented? | Jul 09 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 06:42 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jul 09 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | all the record highs this week were set in 1936 | Jul 09 06:43 |
| ender2070 | back in the 70s they wanted to invent global cooling but it didnt work out too well | Jul 09 06:43 |
| ender2070 | they needed some way to turn the general public into enemies | Jul 09 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, record high for July 13th was 106 degrees | Jul 09 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | in 1936 | Jul 09 06:44 |
| ender2070 | you notice all the big corps that the liberals wanted to tax have no problems buying carbon credits while the rest of us are fucked with higher prices on electronics, electricity and our governments now use tax dollars for carbon credits too | Jul 09 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, for the 14th it was 101 in 1980 | Jul 09 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | 15th was 99 in 1931 | Jul 09 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | and so on | Jul 09 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | seems like all the record highs were set 30+ years ago | Jul 09 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | the Summer of 1934 was apparently a scorcher | Jul 09 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why it doesn't get this hot out any more | Jul 09 06:46 |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox is struggling just to stay ahead of Internet Explorer | Jul 09 06:50 |
| ender2070 | I don't like Firefox anymore | Jul 09 06:52 |
| ender2070 | imo, its bloated piece of shit | Jul 09 06:52 |
| ender2070 | they FUD chromium too much too | Jul 09 06:53 |
| ender2070 | meanwhile, firefox's codebase evolved from AOL's Netscape 6 | Jul 09 06:54 |
| ender2070 | chromium's ancestory is technically konquerer | Jul 09 06:55 |
| ender2070 | the rendering engines | Jul 09 06:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] let's start beef dish carnival's to protest karnataka #BJP govt's move to ban beef #right2beef #communalism please RT | Jul 09 06:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Share your favorite beef dishes on bangalore restaurants with #right2beef tag to voice against karnataka govt's move to ban beef | Jul 09 07:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Kerala beef fry in #koshy's #right2beef | Jul 09 07:03 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Microsoft is paying people to write XBOX 360 S reviews | Jul 09 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | on Amazon | Jul 09 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Netscape 6 was better than IE 6 | Jul 09 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 07:07 |
| ender2070 | actually back then they both sucked I used opera | Jul 09 07:08 |
| ender2070 | I used opera till mozilla gave the codebase a lyposuction and called it Pheonix | Jul 09 07:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Beef dishes are the best combination with kingfisher . Protest karnataka govt's move to ban beef #right2beef @kingfisherworld | Jul 09 07:09 | |
| DaemonFC | http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/download/archive.jsp | Jul 09 07:10 |
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| DaemonFC | "Given AOL's current business focus" | Jul 09 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Going out of business? | Jul 09 07:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @litemeter: @anivar guess ITcos will spike dis. No Mallu would like 2 get Bangalored of there is no beef there:) #right2beef #communalism | Jul 09 07:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYc56QTZqoI | Jul 09 07:19 |
| *DaemonFC pulls out his baton | Jul 09 07:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | Die damn you!!! | Jul 09 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | This is the part where you fall down and bleed to death!!! | Jul 09 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | GRAHAAAAA!!!! | Jul 09 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | WHY WON'T YOU DIEEEEEEEEEE!? | Jul 09 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKpSM1Xjv48&feature=related | Jul 09 07:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] a lot of ppl suggested new tag for #right2beef . Lets change it as #beefup . Voice against Karnataka govt's beef banning move using #beefup | Jul 09 07:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Redcode software developer threatened by a software patent in NL, risk that Landmark Digital Services files a lawsuit http://ur1.ca/0lui4 | Jul 09 08:03 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1929453 | Jul 09 08:03 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software patent debate rages on in New Zealand, they will fall into the EPO trap of "as such": http://ur1.ca/0luix | Jul 09 08:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software patents - left vs right again? NZCIT is a proxy for software multinationals, not Kiwi businesses http://ur1.ca/0luja | Jul 09 08:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lessons Not Learned From #Microsoft #OOXML Scam http://ur1.ca/0lukf #swpats #patents #europe #standard | Jul 09 08:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Improper and Disgraceful Conduct of Hackney Council - http://bit.ly/8XLaBI staggering #hackney #uk #law | Jul 09 08:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 08:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Today, at 11:00 CEST Paul the squid will be asked who will win the #wc2010 finals. So far he has been 100% reliable with his predicitions. | Jul 09 08:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Landmark Digital Services is an Aggressive Patent Troll, Attacks Amateur Programmer in Europe http://ur1.ca/0luz9 #swpats #Redcode | Jul 09 08:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think I'm going to tear down these curtains and put in blinds | Jul 09 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord has no sense of taste | Jul 09 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | owwies! | Jul 09 09:29 |
| *DaemonFC just cracked his neck | Jul 09 09:29 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 09 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | maybe curtains | Jul 09 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | curtains are cheaper | Jul 09 09:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK Government to Crowdsource Spending Cuts on Facebook - http://bit.ly/aeVR0F let's hope this isn't a total disaster #crowdsourcing #ogov | Jul 09 09:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, I'll be back with something | Jul 09 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | I could pick randomly and not get anything uglier than what I have | Jul 09 09:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why Kenya's Attempt To Put Intellectual Property Rights In Its Constitution Is A Mistake - http://bit.ly/bJHFsS an MEP that groks this stuff | Jul 09 09:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bosch Patents Signals, NetApp Bullies ZFS Providers http://techrights.org/2010/07/09/multinationals-in-new-zealand/ #swpats | Jul 09 09:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dead Pink phone fallout hits Microsoft's top brass - http://bit.ly/9Qr7AB not a happy ship, it seems #microsoft #kin | Jul 09 09:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks (Schmitt) heute 12:00 bei der Netzwerk Recherche Jahreskonferenz http://bit.ly/cjJq9U | Jul 09 09:57 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1292778/Belgium-considers-proposals-dissolve-bodies-flush-sewage-systems.html#ixzz0t0suICNT | Jul 09 09:58 |
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| ender2070 | DaemonFC - http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Obama+administration+sues+block+Arizona+immigration/3242533/story.html | Jul 09 10:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Crypto-Forests and Guerrilla Gardening - http://bit.ly/aMb62G lovely ideas #renewal #environment | Jul 09 10:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Wandsworth CCTV shamed again - http://bit.ly/dfFkKw time to reign this in #cctv #wandsworth #surveillance | Jul 09 10:22 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ..or even *rein* it in </sigh> | Jul 09 10:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @berrange: RT @jamesm New IBM blueprint: Securing KVM guests and the host system (RHEL 5.5) - http://is.gd/dlcsK | No SELinux? Strange ... | Jul 09 10:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: New Blueprint available: Securing KVM guests and the host system | Klaus Kiwi's blog .::. Size~: 23.6 KB | Jul 09 10:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Increases #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux , Last Straw With #Windows http://ur1.ca/0lvup http://ur1.ca/0lvuq | Jul 09 10:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Almost 1 in 10 in UK Magazine Poll Use #GNU #Linux on Desktop http://www.daniweb.com/news/story294897.html | Jul 09 10:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Machines Come From NHS Linux Club http://needham.patch.com/articles/nhs-linux-club-donates-computers-to-needham-housing-authority | Jul 09 10:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Australian Tax Office Pressured to Treat #GNU #Linux Like First-class Platform http://ur1.ca/0lvvx http://ur1.ca/0lvvy | Jul 09 10:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of Desktop Virtualization Tools for #Ubuntu Linux, Ubuntu Sub-notebooks Review http://ur1.ca/0lvwm http://ur1.ca/0lvwn | Jul 09 10:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of #GNU #Linux Being Easier to Use Than #Windows http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2010/07/gems-found-down-road.html | Jul 09 10:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patients Are Crazy About #GNU #Linux http://us.generation-nt.com/87-patients-mental-hospitals-used-linux-help-171150101.html | Jul 09 10:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Desktops Increasingly Used in #China , Support Lines Needed http://ur1.ca/0lvxn | Jul 09 10:53 | |
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| oiaohm | Thing to remember for 1 percent of you user base you would not open up phone lines. schestowitz | Jul 09 11:05 |
| oiaohm | There has to be quite a decent ammount of usage. | Jul 09 11:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jonobacon nice to find you on my fav show (TLLTS), but you use Windows for music?? | Jul 09 11:07 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I know | Jul 09 11:10 |
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| DaemonFC | I just spent an hour hanging curtains | Jul 09 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 11:11 |
| oiaohm | http://www.beli.ws/blog/?p=202 Now this one is a good one. | Jul 09 11:11 |
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| oiaohm | It really does sum up my problems with windows quite well. | Jul 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord needs to be shot for sticking me with this crap | Jul 09 11:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung Sells Linux (Ballnux) Phones at Almost 100 Times The Pace of Microsoft "KIN" http://ur1.ca/0lw3i http://ur1.ca/0lw3j | Jul 09 11:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | I put blackout curtains in my bedroom and my living room | Jul 09 11:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Iranians still facing death by stoning despite 'reprieve' - http://bit.ly/cf0Dsp in the hope that publicity might shame Iranian gov. | Jul 09 11:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung Makes #Linux TVs http://ur1.ca/0lw3o http://ur1.ca/0lw3p | Jul 09 11:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | nothing pisses me off worse than a nice hot summer day when the sun is beating down on me through the windows and shining on my tv | Jul 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Jul 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | well, that takes care of one problem :) | Jul 09 11:15 |
| oiaohm | There is worse. | Jul 09 11:17 |
| oiaohm | I have been in a tin shed on a hot summer day. | Jul 09 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Someone forgot to include windows. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Ie hot as hell. | Jul 09 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord is an asshole | Jul 09 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | he's doing this shit to piss me off, I can prove it | Jul 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Why else would he put up with bad neighbors that are trashing the place and 2-3 months behind on rent? | Jul 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | obviously it's to drive the paying tenants out so he doesn't make any money at all | Jul 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 11:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Rakthavarna mamsanishtaa gudanna preetha maanasa... I thought my Durga was also non-veg. #beefup #karnataka | Jul 09 11:22 | |
| oiaohm | Maybe he wants no tenants | Jul 09 11:22 |
| oiaohm | So he can destroy the building and rebuild. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:23 |
| oiaohm | Ie how much is the land worth. | Jul 09 11:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #KDE SC, #Akademy Coverage http://ur1.ca/0lw73 http://ur1.ca/0lw75 http://ur1.ca/0lw76 http://ur1.ca/0lw77 http://ur1.ca/0lw78 | Jul 09 11:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Open Desktop Day is Approaching, Other GNOME News http://ur1.ca/0lw7s http://ur1.ca/0lw7w http://ur1.ca/0lw7x | Jul 09 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: No idea | Jul 09 11:24 |
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| DaemonFC | he could just evict everyone if he wanted no tenants | Jul 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | I've been living here on an expired lease for over 2 years | Jul 09 11:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the #Xfce 4 Settings Manager http://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/08/the-xcfe-control-panel/ | Jul 09 11:25 | |
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| oiaohm | Hmm DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:25 |
| oiaohm | I guess squaters rights are not like here. | Jul 09 11:25 |
| oiaohm | Where you would be 2 years into of being a squater of there is not a rent agreement in writing. | Jul 09 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Most insane I have ever seen done to try to get people out is removal of all internal doors. | Jul 09 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-biasedjudge,0,7863241.story | Jul 09 11:27 |
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| DaemonFC | they need to execute child molestors | Jul 09 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | or announce on the prison intercoms who they are and what they did | Jul 09 11:28 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Google out-FUDs the FUDmasters. http://cli.gs/0y8Yh !linux !fs !floss !foss !techrights | Jul 09 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Preview Page - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/google-out-fuds-the-fudmasters/6807 .::. Size~: 5.47 KB | Jul 09 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.indystar.com/article/20100709/BUSINESS/7090352/Briefly-Around-the-State-+-Nation | Jul 09 11:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Another Canadian company bypasses Michigan completely and locates in Indiana | Jul 09 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | they probably understand that at this rate, there won't be a Michigan in a few years | Jul 09 11:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Most people miss that most child molestors were molestered themselves. | Jul 09 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | oh bullshit | Jul 09 11:31 |
| oiaohm | To get rid of them long term treat the ones molested. | Jul 09 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | just shoot them all | Jul 09 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Its not bullshit | Jul 09 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | hang them | Jul 09 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Kill the molestor. And remember to treat the victoms. | Jul 09 11:32 |
| oiaohm | So you don't get new ones. | Jul 09 11:32 |
| oiaohm | Or if you want to be savage kill the victoms as well. | Jul 09 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: What I'm sick of is the flippant attitude that Europeans have | Jul 09 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | regarding the rights of victims | Jul 09 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | and assuming that someone who is just a total incurable criminal can be rehabilitated | Jul 09 11:33 |
| oiaohm | There are very few things are incurable criminals. | Jul 09 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | If they want to have a bunch of child molesters running loose and jails full of people who defended their family from a home invasion or didn't feel like getting carjacked, good for them I guess | Jul 09 11:34 |
| oiaohm | Just the problem is we are not allowed to go far enough to cure them. | Jul 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't feel safe living there | Jul 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | or in Canada | Jul 09 11:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Could Free Software Exist Without Copyright? - http://bit.ly/b1SoRa RMS says it could #copyright #gpl #rms | Jul 09 11:34 | |
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| oiaohm | Like magenitic field clear of memory. | Jul 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Europeans have a flippant disregard for justice | Jul 09 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's like the thought of punishing the bad guys makes them ill or something | Jul 09 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Historically proven effective against lot of the so call incurables. | Jul 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Well, we're getting more and more like the Europeans all the time | Jul 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | we brand for life the people who can be rehabilitated | Jul 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | but we let all the people who can't out to reoffend | Jul 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | over and over again after service token sentences | Jul 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's becoming a major problem | Jul 09 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Over 99 percent of all crims can be rehabilited if treatments are not restricted. | Jul 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | doubtful | Jul 09 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Ie deleting a persons complete memory is the top level of rehabilitation treatement. | Jul 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | true hardened criminal thinking is genetic | Jul 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's hardcoded in many of them | Jul 09 11:37 |
| oiaohm | No genetic | Jul 09 11:37 |
| oiaohm | and history. | Jul 09 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Delete history. | Jul 09 11:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] US should prepare for many more heatwaves, says government-funded report - http://bit.ly/9oZmaq luckily, it's just the weather, no? #climate | Jul 09 11:37 | |
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| oiaohm | You can reform them into something else. | Jul 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | one criminal is usually in a family of criminals | Jul 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | coming from a long line of criminals | Jul 09 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Like a mass murder makes a good stock trader. | Jul 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's not something that really tends to pop up in people at random | Jul 09 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Yes same personallity type required for both jobs. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Everyone is genetically able to be a crim | Jul 09 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Question is do you have the life experenices to make you take that path. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:39 |
| oiaohm | And if you do can you resist the temptation to go back to that path. Ie because it appears simpler. | Jul 09 11:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Mandriva is Alive!" (and Early Glimpse at Official Release) http://ur1.ca/0lwc9 http://ur1.ca/0lwca #gnu #linux | Jul 09 11:40 | |
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| oiaohm | Yes I know nasty to consider not puting someone to the electric chair. But put them in a chair that basically deletes all there memories. | Jul 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | my mom's ex husband's entire family were criminals | Jul 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | felons | Jul 09 11:41 |
| oiaohm | For some reason lot of people think deleting a person memory is worse than killing them. | Jul 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | they get together with other felons and reproduce | Jul 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | and have little bitty felons | Jul 09 11:42 |
| oiaohm | So dna there is not coming into it. | Jul 09 11:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Does Creative Commons need more court cases? - http://bit.ly/9qvWjx "one of the few occasions when I disagree with Glyn" #cc #licensing | Jul 09 11:42 | |
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| oiaohm | Because if dna was you would expect white sheep to turn up quite regually in those groups. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | if you could wipe a criminal's mind and start over, you'd still have a criminal | Jul 09 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure of it | Jul 09 11:42 |
| oiaohm | When it was done in early mental illness controls. | Jul 09 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Results were over 99.9 of crims with it done to never was a crim again. | Jul 09 11:43 |
| oiaohm | It was effective DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Problem is cost person knows nothing has to relearn everything. | Jul 09 11:44 |
| oiaohm | And after having todo that once there is no way a sane person would want to face that again either. | Jul 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | you can't wipe someone's mind | Jul 09 11:45 |
| oiaohm | In fact you can DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | you can have them be a vegetable after a lobotomy or something | Jul 09 11:45 |
| oiaohm | High magnetic fields | Jul 09 11:45 |
| oiaohm | Few cases happen naturally. | Jul 09 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Ie lightning strike in the wrong place. | Jul 09 11:46 |
| oiaohm | It was used to treat deperssion cause by a event as well at one stage DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Memory and moter centers can be taken out independant as well. | Jul 09 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if there was some rehabilitation that got the deep down stains | Jul 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | but there isn't | Jul 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | as long as a criminal has the chance to reoffend, they usually will | Jul 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | their brain can't understand cause and effect | Jul 09 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | they think there's something wrong with other people | Jul 09 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Not all people with cause and effect defect are crims. | Jul 09 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | they think other people are stupid and won't catch them | Jul 09 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | and that's what keeps getting them in trouble | Jul 09 11:49 |
| oiaohm | You think about all pokey machine players. | Jul 09 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Most of them have the same defect. | Jul 09 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I got a $10 Starbucks card | Jul 09 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no Starbucks here | Jul 09 11:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Font From #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0lkdr http://ur1.ca/0lgal http://ur1.ca/0lwf0 http://ur1.ca/0lwf2 http://ur1.ca/0lkqa | Jul 09 11:54 | |
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| oiaohm | Also people who don't have good cause and effect make great battle field grunts for cannon fodder. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Hmm 50 of my mates died I should be fine from the poor genenic cause and effect system. | Jul 09 11:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Font From #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/0lkdr http://ur1.ca/0lgal http://ur1.ca/0lwf0 http://ur1.ca/0lwf2 http://ur1.ca/0lkqa | Jul 09 11:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A Big Part of COINS was not Published - http://bit.ly/9PratG surprise! #ogov #opendata #coins | Jul 09 11:56 | |
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| oiaohm | Basically very little genenic makes just a crim. There is always another use for them. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:56 |
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| oiaohm | I know a lot of peole like you who want to beleive the myth that a person is born a crim. DaemonFC | Jul 09 11:58 |
| oiaohm | Not the truth they are born and raised a crim. | Jul 09 11:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There's some major lag again, which lead to dupes (retrials) | Jul 09 11:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Patent Infringement Madness - Shazam sends C&D to blogger: http://is.gd/dllQt - "your blogpost may be viewed internationally." #swpat #sucks | Jul 09 12:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] This blog entry http://is.gd/dlmlr is (a) a blog entry or (b) patent infringement? I say (a) Shazam says (b) #weird #swpat | Jul 09 12:11 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Adobe Trash Gets 'Open-source' Spin/Slant http://ur1.ca/0lwod http://ur1.ca/0lwoe http://ur1.ca/0lwof http://ur1.ca/0j9i9 | Jul 09 12:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC XOs Reach 4 More Schools http://www.e-pao.net/GP.asp?src=3..070710.jul10 #fedora #gnu #linux | Jul 09 12:31 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Laptops distributed to four schools : 07th jul10 ~ E-Pao! Headlines .::. Size~: 28.51 KB | Jul 09 12:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ISPs mark disapproval of the Digital Economy Bill - http://bit.ly/bX9KUk good to see the Dark Lord's contribution being recognised #deact | Jul 09 12:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The emerging online giants - http://bit.ly/bhFfPb not who or where you might expect #net #russia #africa | Jul 09 12:39 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Internet investment's new champions: The emerging online giants | The Economist .::. Size~: 43.19 KB | Jul 09 12:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinkedIn Relies on #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/0lwrb http://ur1.ca/0lwrc | Jul 09 12:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Linux Events and Open World Forum are Coming http://ur1.ca/0lwrs http://ur1.ca/0lwrt http://ur1.ca/0lwru | Jul 09 12:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Smartphone Patent Suits Challenge Big Makers - http://nyti.ms/dobF1X patent troll, NTP, is back, buoyed dosh from RIM #swpats #mobiles | Jul 09 12:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @harishpillay 97% of Malaysian govt agencies have adopted OSS! http://bit.ly/10vp0t >>fab achievement #opensource #malaysia | Jul 09 12:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Assessment of the Orphan works issue and Costs for Rights Clearance [pdf] - http://bit.ly/9HcNwj "rights clearance is costly and cumbersome" | Jul 09 12:51 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Jul 09 12:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] AOL Launches Open-Source Maps Projects In U.S., UK - http://bit.ly/bX1J3e wow: the old walled garden digs openness #osm #aol | Jul 09 12:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Have a rooted N1, XP box & USB cable. What do I do to get the XP machine to use USB-connected N1 for Internet access? | Jul 09 13:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I have tethering activated on the N1. I need to know what to do to get XP to use the phone for its network connection. | Jul 09 13:06 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Recommendations for Government to Move to #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/0lwz0 http://ur1.ca/0js2k http://ur1.ca/0lwz2 | Jul 09 13:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] It seems that for quite some people #drupal is the new #wordpress. | Jul 09 13:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA and Digital Economy Bill: Call for Action, UK ISPs Join Effort http://ur1.ca/0lwzr http://ur1.ca/0lwzs #deact | Jul 09 13:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Education in the UK Urged to Move to Freedom Software http://agent4change.net/grapevine/platform/645 | Jul 09 13:30 | |
| oiaohm | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/0042238/Microsoft-Opens-Source-Code-To-KGBs-Successor-Agency Abuse of the word Open Source | Jul 09 13:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of Open Access/Content/Sharing http://ur1.ca/0lx2r http://ur1.ca/0lx2s http://ur1.ca/0lx2t http://ur1.ca/0lx2u | Jul 09 13:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Debates About Mixing Proprietary With OSS for "Open Source" Marketing Slant http://ur1.ca/0lks6 http://ur1.ca/0kyc3 http://ur1.ca/0lx3s | Jul 09 13:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @softmetz: Twitter ist doof #ratelimit | Macht nix, wir haben ja ident.ca ;-) | Jul 09 13:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More New Examples of Semi-Open Source and Need for Reform http://ur1.ca/0lx4a http://ur1.ca/0lx4c http://ur1.ca/0lx4f | Jul 09 13:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Gets Dressed up as SaaS/ #FogComputing http://ur1.ca/0lx52 http://ur1.ca/0lx53 http://ur1.ca/0lx54 | Jul 09 13:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre #Databases (Postgres) to be Used by EMC http://ur1.ca/0lx61 http://ur1.ca/0lx62 http://ur1.ca/0lx63 | Jul 09 13:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest Examples of "Open Data" Victories http://ur1.ca/0lx7a http://ur1.ca/0lx7b http://ur1.ca/0lx7c #opendata | Jul 09 13:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of "Open Data" Victories {ctd.} http://ur1.ca/0lx7g http://ur1.ca/0kxbv http://ur1.ca/0lx7h #opendata | Jul 09 13:58 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/60952/title/Machine_versus_manhole More signs of USA mad ness | Jul 09 14:01 |
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| oiaohm | We don't have this issue here. Sewer and Electric are independant systems. | Jul 09 14:01 |
| cubezzz | anyone know a good solitairie game for X? | Jul 09 14:02 |
| cubezzz | one that works on 640x480 :) | Jul 09 14:03 |
| cubezzz | solitaire even | Jul 09 14:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Let there be dancing in the streets and joys unbounded. The 60-day public review of ODF 1.2 begns now: http://bit.ly/a2i46k | Jul 09 14:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Shiju Alex speaks at #Wikimania http://bit.ly/cMSoyI about #malayalam Wikipedia | Jul 09 14:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Livestream of #wikimania http://bit.ly/cMSoyI | Jul 09 14:11 | |
| oiaohm | http://pysolfc.sourceforge.net/ Have not tried that low cubezzz | Jul 09 14:14 |
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| oiaohm | But being python this thing would not be hard to refactor. | Jul 09 14:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Lies, damn lies and the BSA - http://bit.ly/aoaSIk excellent analysis of the unreliability of BSA's #piracy figures#software | Jul 09 14:22 | |
| cubezzz | it's weird, even old software doesn't support 640x480 | Jul 09 14:22 |
| cubezzz | guess this box is pretty old | Jul 09 14:22 |
| cubezzz | no perl, no python either | Jul 09 14:23 |
| cubezzz | in theory, eus could work: | Jul 09 14:26 |
| cubezzz | Pentium, PowerPC, Alpha or Sparc processor | Jul 09 14:26 |
| cubezzz | 16 megs of ram | Jul 09 14:26 |
| cubezzz | wait a sec, I have the box still | Jul 09 14:27 |
| MinceR | j0 | Jul 09 14:34 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Releases Another #Linux SDK, Gets GNU/Linux Into #Vietnam 's Bank http://ur1.ca/0lxik http://ur1.ca/0lxil http://ur1.ca/0lxin | Jul 09 14:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ballnux #Tablets to Arrive From #LG , Not Just Phones http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LG-Optimus-One-Chic-and-GT540/ | Jul 09 14:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @schestowitz #Education in the UK Urged to Move to Freedom Software http://agent4change.net/grapevine/platform/645 | Jul 09 14:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows XP Weakness Leads to #GNU #Linux , Not #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/0lxij http://ur1.ca/0lxim | Jul 09 14:46 | |
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| oiaohm | Problem here X11 has had higher than 680x460 for a very long time. cubezzz | Jul 09 14:47 |
| oiaohm | You are talking back into the 1970 and 1980 for X11 to be past that res. | Jul 09 14:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] At work......only until 8pm. | Jul 09 14:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EuroGreens demands to the European Commission the removal of patents from the scope of ACTA: http://ur1.ca/0lxjm | Jul 09 14:49 | |
| cubezzz | well that's cool I can run eus on Sparc | Jul 09 14:50 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, programs should work on 640x480 though | Jul 09 14:52 |
| cubezzz | especially something like solitaire | Jul 09 14:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] So a few months ago Google was shouting about leaving China and now they happily announce the new 6 months license. Business trumps image? | Jul 09 14:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why Bilski Really Means That Software Companies Should Leave the US - http://bit.ly/deeZVW *another* VC complains (via @zoobab @normnz) | Jul 09 14:54 | |
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| oiaohm | Problem with X11 its starting point for a long time has been 1024x768 | Jul 09 14:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @bkuhn I just wondered: will the #Java programming namespace com.sun.* change to com.oracle.*? Did spec take into account acquisition? | Jul 09 14:55 | |
| cubezzz | yes, I've noticed :) | Jul 09 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Most like before the device you are even trying to use existed. | Jul 09 14:57 |
| MinceR | where does x11 rely on 1024x768? | Jul 09 14:57 |
| cubezzz | "Video card capable of 800x600 resolution; XFree86 version 3.2 or newer; 16-bit color" | Jul 09 14:58 |
| cubezzz | well it's not strictly true | Jul 09 14:58 |
| cubezzz | there are X programs that work on 640x480 | Jul 09 14:58 |
| cubezzz | just not very many of them | Jul 09 14:58 |
| MinceR | afaik GPE was based on X and could function on a 320x320 device | Jul 09 14:58 |
| MinceR | i distinctly remember switchin X into the 320x240 (or 200?) mode | Jul 09 14:59 |
| cubezzz | I think you can run X on monochrome even | Jul 09 14:59 |
| MinceR | iirc the first x terminals were monochrome | Jul 09 14:59 |
| cubezzz | yes, I can do 320x240 on LCD even | Jul 09 15:00 |
| cubezzz | but not 320x200 | Jul 09 15:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] An Early Look at #Linux 2.6.35 (Kernel Space), Other New Linux Releases http://ur1.ca/0lxln http://ur1.ca/0lxlo | Jul 09 15:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Graphics Stack in #Linux Wants Better Snapdragon Drivers From Qualcomm http://ur1.ca/0lxls http://ur1.ca/0lxlt | Jul 09 15:00 | |
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| cubezzz | even old loki games won't work | Jul 09 15:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Thanks to all who replied -- installing HTC USB drivers for XP did the trick! | Jul 09 15:03 | |
| cubezzz | eus uses 1024x768 | Jul 09 15:06 |
| cubezzz | so no go | Jul 09 15:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Move over Mexico! India Hosts Another Model Right to Information Law - http://bit.ly/aBPJaq hopeful signs #india #mexico #transparency | Jul 09 15:07 | |
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| cubezzz | a problem with raster graphics | Jul 09 15:13 |
| cubezzz | it works in 1024x768 or you get 'pan and scan' | Jul 09 15:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dump Microsoft, Use Linux to Save Money, U.K. Officials Suggest - http://bit.ly/dzBCji time for UK gov to turn its fine words into deeds | Jul 09 15:15 | |
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| cubezzz | these old Imakefile files | Jul 09 15:23 |
| cubezzz | I can't quite figure out how to use them | Jul 09 15:23 |
| MinceR | with imake :> | Jul 09 15:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Introduction to Lesser-known #GNU #Linux Games, New Games http://ur1.ca/0lxql http://ur1.ca/0lxqm http://ur1.ca/0lxqo http://ur1.ca/0lxqp | Jul 09 15:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sabayon #Linux in the Headlines, Receives Great Review http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=390 http://ur1.ca/0lxqn | Jul 09 15:26 | |
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| cubezzz | I should be able to do something with this | Jul 09 15:27 |
| cubezzz | David Leonard, 2003 | Jul 09 15:27 |
| cubezzz | oh I see | Jul 09 15:30 |
| cubezzz | Imakefile is like configure | Jul 09 15:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] South Korea: Super fast, and finally free - http://bit.ly/blCULs the happy-ending story of the world's worst Microsoft monoculture #skorea | Jul 09 15:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @harishpillay 97% of Malaysian govt agencies have adopted OSS! http://bit.ly/10vp0t >fab achievement #opensource #malaysia | Jul 09 15:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer no, wordpress has been ahead for ages | Jul 09 15:34 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @bkuhn I just wondered: will the #Java programming namespace com.sun.* change to com.oracle.*? Did spec take into account acquisition? | Jul 09 15:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Numbers, Editions, and Derivative #Sidux in Review http://ur1.ca/0lxyv http://ur1.ca/0lxyw http://ur1.ca/0lxyx | Jul 09 15:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at (Short Reviews) of Two Major #GNU #Linux Distros http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/two-popular-distros-release-latest-wares | Jul 09 15:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @MaximBurgerhout This made me uninstall #Shazam RT @jwildeboer Patent Infringement Madness - Shazam sends C&D to blogger #swpats | Jul 09 15:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @peterbowyer RT @PierreJoye: RT @Johannhartmann This is the right time to stop using #Shazam . #swpats | Jul 09 15:48 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.processor.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2Fp3214%2F05p14%2Flayout1.asp&guid=&searchType=&WordList=&bJumpto=True "Legal Battle Between Novell & SCO May Be Over " | Jul 09 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Not so over though | Jul 09 15:56 |
| cubezzz | it's never over | Jul 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm thankful I'm not in Groklaw right now | Jul 09 16:00 |
| schestowitz | it can be frustrating | Jul 09 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Signing the same tune with the same evidence for so many years, always feeling like it's just about over | Jul 09 16:00 |
| schestowitz | *Singing | Jul 09 16:01 |
| cubezzz | it's de facto over, just not de jure over | Jul 09 16:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketintellisearch.com/articles/1027337.html | Jul 09 16:01 |
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| MinceR | singing praises about crApple isn't good either | Jul 09 16:01 |
| cubezzz | SCO doesn't really matter | Jul 09 16:01 |
| schestowitz | I hope Novell is sold soon, it's inevitable, they just don't have a good buyer yet | Jul 09 16:01 |
| schestowitz | I bet vulture funds want Novell but Novell wants a real company to buy it | Jul 09 16:02 |
| cubezzz | wouldn't it be better if no one bought them? | Jul 09 16:02 |
| schestowitz | A vulture would just tear Novell to pieces | Jul 09 16:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, but it's not the focus | Jul 09 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Apple is bribing people | Jul 09 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Someone just sent me a PM about offer of a free hypePad | Jul 09 16:02 |
| cubezzz | I kind of feel a bit sorry for Novell | Jul 09 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Instead I'll expose what Apple is doing there, shortly...... | Jul 09 16:03 |
| cubezzz | trying to make nice with the company who is trying to destroy them | Jul 09 16:03 |
| schestowitz | I'd probably take it if the OS could be wiped and I could put Linux on it | Jul 09 16:03 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] First we take the browser then we take the world! http://bit.ly/a9QkgF | Jul 09 16:03 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: no, they hired them | Jul 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft employee, turncoats like de Icaza, etc. | Jul 09 16:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open source financial analytics startup OpenGamma comes out of stealth mode - http://bit.ly/96KmZO interesting specialist app #opensource | Jul 09 16:04 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Open source financial analytics startup OpenGamma comes out of stealth mode - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.4 KB | Jul 09 16:04 |
| cubezzz | like DRI, they didn't deserve to be destroyed | Jul 09 16:04 |
| cubezzz | or Be | Jul 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/6/12/judge-finally-kicks-sco-touch/ | Jul 09 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Judge finally kicks SCO into touch | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 31.36 KB | Jul 09 16:04 |
| cubezzz | or who knows how many others | Jul 09 16:04 |
| cubezzz | we have FreeDos and Linux and AROS is improving | Jul 09 16:07 |
| cubezzz | so I guess the good guys won in the end | Jul 09 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Did you guys know that jono uses Windows sometimes? And Mac OS X before...? | Jul 09 16:08 |
| cubezzz | I'm not surprised | Jul 09 16:08 |
| schestowitz | It gives ammo to trolls | Jul 09 16:08 |
| cubezzz | well, we all are forced to use doze _some_ of the time | Jul 09 16:08 |
| schestowitz | "even community manager of Ubuntu doesn't........" | Jul 09 16:08 |
| cubezzz | I just try to use it as little as possible | Jul 09 16:08 |
| cubezzz | the Canada Cenus... | Jul 09 16:09 |
| cubezzz | paying a parking ticket | Jul 09 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Canada Cenus says everyone uses Win32 :-) | Jul 09 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Only win32 users receive parking tickets :-) | Jul 09 16:09 |
| cubezzz | riiight, you see the problem | Jul 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | They checked the logs... | Jul 09 16:10 |
| cubezzz | actually the 2nd one sounds kind of good, but not really | Jul 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Banks too | Jul 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Circular logic | Jul 09 16:10 |
| cubezzz | I spoke to my city councilman about it | Jul 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | "we see no Linux demand from our Windows-only service..." | Jul 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/06/11/sconovell-suit-is-over-sco-loses/ | Jul 09 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | arl... bad hair day | Jul 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Darl... bad hair day | Jul 09 16:11 |
| cubezzz | I've done my part to promote Linux | Jul 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm no entirely confident wrt Ubuntu | Jul 09 16:12 |
| cubezzz | sold a bunch of Fedora laptops | Jul 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | That's why I told MinceR to try something else | Jul 09 16:12 |
| cubezzz | he's never happy with anything though :) | Jul 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu's (Canonical) COO nearly took a job at Microsoft some years ago | Jul 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | And the founder has a Mac fetish | Jul 09 16:12 |
| cubezzz | there's no perfect system | Jul 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: he feels about distros like he feels about humans :-) | Jul 09 16:13 |
| cubezzz | I wonder if he tried Mepis | Jul 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | how about perfectos? | Jul 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | or "mint" | Jul 09 16:13 |
| MinceR | i've installed it but didn't have time to play much with it | Jul 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: me piss? | Jul 09 16:13 |
| MinceR | so i have hopes for it yet | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 09 16:14 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jul 09 16:14 |
| cubezzz | me piss on Mepis | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | GPL thing | Jul 09 16:14 |
| cubezzz | j/k I've never tried it :) | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Me neither | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I heard good things | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | BTW.. | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Vista7 is out of distrowatch | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Didn't make the cut | Jul 09 16:14 |
| cubezzz | I might try it on a new machine | Jul 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Nobody downloads it | Jul 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | They say it's some OS that only comes on hardware | Jul 09 16:15 |
| MinceR | i've also thought of going back to Debian and just get over packaging errors, lack of KDE3 and having to install proprietary drivers (the first two aren't so significant anymore anyway) | Jul 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | So there's no point reviewing it, it's just something that's forced.... like that paper junk they put inside shoes when you buy them | Jul 09 16:15 |
| cubezzz | I'm having fun with icewm | Jul 09 16:15 |
| cubezzz | I'll review it schestowitz | Jul 09 16:15 |
| cubezzz | "it sucks... The End" | Jul 09 16:16 |
| cubezzz | see, succinct and to the point | Jul 09 16:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 16:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Enterprise Linux 6.0 Compared to CentOS, Others; Powers Dial http://ur1.ca/0lyb3 http://ur1.ca/0lyb5 | Jul 09 16:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Rises and New Partnerships Stressed http://ur1.ca/0lyb1 http://ur1.ca/0lyb2 http://ur1.ca/0lyb4 http://ur1.ca/0lyb6 | Jul 09 16:17 | |
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| schestowitz | There's lots more Linux news for the day :-) | Jul 09 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Issue is, IBM, Google, Nokia, Intel and others are dominating it | Jul 09 16:18 |
| schestowitz | All the small shops fail to rise, except Canonical maybe | Jul 09 16:18 |
| schestowitz | IBM has gotten Linux by the b0lls | Jul 09 16:18 |
| MinceR | better than having 1 company dominate it | Jul 09 16:19 |
| MinceR | as is the case with all the other platforms | Jul 09 16:19 |
| MinceR | except the Free BSD-s, which are in the state GNU/Linux used to be in, in this regard | Jul 09 16:20 |
| MinceR | (less corporate involvement) | Jul 09 16:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: how's IBM's presense in .hu? | Jul 09 16:22 |
| schestowitz | *presence | Jul 09 16:22 |
| MinceR | not sure | Jul 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Who does Ingo work for? | Jul 09 16:23 |
| MinceR | they sell all kinds of stuff | Jul 09 16:23 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jul 09 16:23 |
| *schestowitz checks | Jul 09 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | Red Hat | Jul 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingo_Moln%C3%A1r | Jul 09 16:23 |
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| schestowitz | You need Red Hat to see the Absurd Goverment | Jul 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | *nment | Jul 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Like in .ch | Jul 09 16:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz CentOS *IS* RHEL Clone. Stupid comparison by phoronix. | Jul 09 16:25 | |
| schestowitz | Ted is still at Google. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Ts%27o | Jul 09 16:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer unless you do stealth tuning | Jul 09 16:26 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz If that is the suspicion, would make more sense to compare CentOS 5.5 v RHEL 5.5, innit? ;-) | Jul 09 16:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical / #Ubuntu Reaches Packaging Milestone, Takes Aim at Businesses http://ur1.ca/0kd15 http://ur1.ca/0lyda | Jul 09 16:28 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Weve packaged all of the free software&what now? « We'll see | Matt Zimmerman .::. Size~: 110.2 KB | Jul 09 16:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 on the Desktop and a Look at 10.10 http://ur1.ca/0lydb http://ur1.ca/0ki1g http://ur1.ca/0lnii | Jul 09 16:29 | |
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| schestowitz | > It's in relation to `Open Source Music Fingerprinter Gets Patent Nastygram' .. | Jul 09 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 09 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > Post it and see if they will threaten litigation ? | Jul 09 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 09 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/07/08/2311225/Open-Source-Music-Fingerprinter-Gets-Patent-Nastygram?art_pos=6 | Jul 09 16:33 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Open Source Music Fingerprinter Gets Patent Nastygram .::. Size~: 180.99 KB | Jul 09 16:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer did you tell Michael? | Jul 09 16:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Automate your life with geocron - http://bit.ly/aCdK3V "Where am I? When am I there? What do I want to happen?" #automation #geolocation | Jul 09 16:34 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Labs Olympics: Automate your life with geocron - Sunlight Labs: Blog .::. Size~: 24.39 KB | Jul 09 16:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/40255571#notice-40524886 "@schestowitz Maybe we should just republish the article in 1000s of blogs as a way of fighting back #Shazam" | Jul 09 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | I was gonnna do just that after readers asked me to | Jul 09 16:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody not a new idea, but nice #surveillance | Jul 09 16:37 | |
| schestowitz | Reversal: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178913/Chinese_outsourcer_seeks_U.S._workers_with_IQ_of_125_and_up | Jul 09 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Chinese outsourcer seeks U.S. workers with IQ of 125 and up - Computerworld .::. Size~: 76.28 KB | Jul 09 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Wait for Chinese companies to scoop and talent and buy US companies | Jul 09 16:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @kcorrick WARNING: new Twitter spam/virus thing about, based on a DM saying get a free iPad. DO NOT CLICK>>the iPad *is* the virus | Jul 09 16:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Changed my Avatar to pure #FF8C00 to show my support for the #NED team. Join me! Spread the word! Let's go #viral! | Jul 09 16:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Variant in India, #ARM Version Developed http://ur1.ca/0lygo http://ur1.ca/0lygq | Jul 09 16:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Examples of #Linux in Devices/Embedded http://ur1.ca/0lyh9 http://ur1.ca/0lyha http://ur1.ca/0lyhb http://ur1.ca/0lyhd | Jul 09 16:43 | |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Open source robotics is Qbo the ultimate project? | Linux User .::. Size~: 28.75 KB | Jul 09 16:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz Nope. Would end in a flamewar IMHO. | Jul 09 16:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Backward steps at Lake Baikal - http://bit.ly/9xWFiC utterly disgraceful move by Vlad the Polluter #russia #baikal | Jul 09 16:46 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Backward steps at Lake Baikal | Zhang Yadong Wang Qiuxia - China Dialogue .::. Size~: 33.86 KB | Jul 09 16:46 |
| schestowitz | [16:39] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [glynmoody] RT @kcorrick WARNING: new Twitter spam/virus thing about, based on a DM saying get a free iPad. DO NOT CLICK>>the iPad *is* the virus | Jul 09 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Ahh.... so it's a cirus | Jul 09 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Apple started generation of hypePad hype by paying famous bloggers in the form of free hypePads which they receive ahead of everyone else | Jul 09 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I thought they were bribing again. The site says "We are looking for 5000 iPad apps testers!" | Jul 09 16:51 |
| schestowitz | "Free participation. No fees. Testing period is 2 months. You keep the iPad at the end of the testing period. No fees before or after your particpation. 100% free." | Jul 09 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Microosft uses similar tricks of free phones and Google sends free Android phones to podcasters | Jul 09 16:52 |
| schestowitz | They make bribery the norm... bribosoft... and Google follows the same footsteps. | Jul 09 16:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] New blog post: Oranje Boven! Show your support for the WC Finals! #JustForFun http://ur1.ca/0lyj3 | Jul 09 16:52 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Jan Wildeboer » Blog Archive » Oranje Boven! Show your support for the WC Finals! #JustForFun .::. Size~: 18.09 KB | Jul 09 16:52 |
| schestowitz | But this one is just a scam | Jul 09 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Fake AstroTurfing | Jul 09 16:53 |
| schestowitz | ""Our job is to be the middle-man between companies looking for testers, and the pool of participants. We are asked to select participants based on different criteria such as sex, age, class, education. Our job is to refer the candidates. We aim to get a group of people for each product that usually interests them."" | Jul 09 16:53 |
| schestowitz | http://szaboservices.blogspot.com/2010/07/goldman-sachs-executive-to-advise-head.html | Jul 09 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: SzaboServices News: Goldman Sachs Executive to Advise Head of Canadas Central Bank, a Former Goldman Sachs Executive .::. Size~: 54.89 KB | Jul 09 16:57 |
| cubezzz | thumbs up good buddy! Windows 7 is the best! | Jul 09 17:00 |
| cubezzz | http://blahg.josefsipek.net/images/linus-windows7.jpg | Jul 09 17:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Intel/Nokia Linux-based #MeeGo Boots Fast http://ur1.ca/0lylt http://ur1.ca/0lylu http://ur1.ca/0lylu | Jul 09 17:04 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: MeeGo: Zero to VT320 in Seventeen Seconds .::. Size~: 27.54 KB | Jul 09 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Embedded.com - NEWS: MeeGo Handset Project Launched .::. Size~: 72.39 KB | Jul 09 17:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Faces #Linux With ARM Competition on Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/0lylw http://ur1.ca/0lylx http://ur1.ca/0lyly | Jul 09 17:05 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Netbook Apps Reinvent the Wheel | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 84.74 KB | Jul 09 17:05 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: A niche player | Malay Mail Online .::. Size~: 50.89 KB | Jul 09 17:05 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 09 17:05 |
| ender2070 | i remember that picture of linus | Jul 09 17:05 |
| ender2070 | the linsux trolls tried saying even linus uses win7 | Jul 09 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/07/foreclosures-movin-on-up.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CalculatedRisk+%28Calculated+Risk%29 "Were these borrowers really "rich"? Or did they just buy more home than they could really afford?" | Jul 09 17:07 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Calculated Risk: Foreclosures: Movin' on Up! .::. Size~: 94.52 KB | Jul 09 17:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] All my FB friends that want to support the dutch team - join http://is.gd/dlGus #OranjeFTW page! | Jul 09 17:08 | |
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| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_ECONOMY_IMF?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT | Jul 09 17:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Needn't Sell Phones Directly Now That #Android Sells Over a Million Per Week http://ur1.ca/0lyqc http://ur1.ca/0lyqf | Jul 09 17:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of the #Linux -based #Android 2.2 http://ur1.ca/0k46m http://ur1.ca/0lyqb | Jul 09 17:13 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] U.K. government staff suggested replacing Microsoft Corp http://cli.gs/3aJpM !fs !linux !floss !techrights | Jul 09 17:18 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Preview Page - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-09/dump-microsoft-use-linux-to-save-money-u-k-officials-suggest.html .::. Size~: 5.65 KB | Jul 09 17:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @satipera U.K. government staff suggested replacing Microsoft Corp http://cli.gs/3aJpM #fs #linux #floss #techrights | Jul 09 17:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Preview Page - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-09/dump-microsoft-use-linux-to-save-money-u-k-officials-suggest.html .::. Size~: 5.65 KB | Jul 09 17:21 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera U.K. government staff suggested replacing Microsoft Corp http://cli.gs/3aJpM !fs !linux !floss !techrights | Jul 09 17:23 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Preview Page - http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-09/dump-microsoft-use-linux-to-save-money-u-k-officials-suggest.html .::. Size~: 5.65 KB | Jul 09 17:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sameerverma: "Dump Microsoft, Use Linux to Save Money, U.K. Officials Suggest" - BusinessWeek http://bit.ly/dqz1HI | Jul 09 17:29 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dump Microsoft, Use Linux to Save Money, U.K. Officials Suggest - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 45.17 KB | Jul 09 17:29 |
| squarepeg | wow, those are some long urls | Jul 09 17:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @andago: ¿Utilizas tu DNIe? Puedes consultar el catálogo de aplicaciones que lo soportan http://bit.ly/c4uMcF | Jul 09 17:33 | |
| MinceR | not really :> | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Workers who get paid 50,000 pounds ($75,840) a year were the happiest bunch | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | among those in the 10,000 to 70,000 pounds wage bracket, with one in five | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | people saying that they had never felt more content with their lives. | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | The wealthier, the more miserable, with people who earn above 70,000 pounds | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | admitting that they felt less happy than those who take home 50,000 a year, | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | a survey by money management website lovemoney.com found. | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jul 09 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "I'm sure it takes more than money alone to make you truly happy. There's no | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | point having a lot of money if you have no family or friends or share it | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | with." | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jul 09 17:35 |
| MinceR | i could spend it alone just fine :> | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | [LONDON (Reuters Life!) - Fri Jul 9, 5:45 am ET] | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know you could... | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, it's a fluff people someone just mailed me | Jul 09 17:35 |
| schestowitz | /people/piece/ | Jul 09 17:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Smartphone Patent Suits Challenge Big Makers - http://nyti.ms/dobF1X patent troll, NTP, is back, buoyed dosh from RIM #swpats | Jul 09 17:37 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Smartphone Patent Suits Challenge Big Makers - DealBook Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 56.24 KB | Jul 09 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Grrrrr.. http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/07/08/do-customers-want-open-core/ | Jul 09 17:38 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Do customers want open core? .::. Size~: 42.92 KB | Jul 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Open Core my abs[sic] | Jul 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | 451 folks keep defending it | Jul 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ubuntu-closes-root-hole-1034618.html | Jul 09 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu closes root hole - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.74 KB | Jul 09 17:40 |
| schestowitz | http://nicolasb.com.ar/2010/07/opera-borks-gmail/ | Jul 09 17:41 |
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| MinceR | every once in a while it's google that breaks their webapps with opera and less popular browsers | Jul 09 17:42 |
| MinceR | because web standards are something that happens to other people | Jul 09 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they are standards | Jul 09 17:47 |
| schestowitz | w3c issues recommendations | Jul 09 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Not formal standards | Jul 09 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Like the ones you bribe and inject cronies for (ISO) | Jul 09 17:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Applications for #Linux -based #Android Cheaper http://ur1.ca/0lz2a http://ur1.ca/0lz2b http://ur1.ca/0lz2d | Jul 09 17:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HTC Makes Money From #Linux (Android) http://ur1.ca/0lz2e http://ur1.ca/0lz2f | Jul 09 17:48 | |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Once Again, HTCs Pockets Are Bulging Thanks to A Healthy Q2 | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 37.2 KB | Jul 09 17:48 |
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| MinceR | doesn't matter | Jul 09 17:48 |
| MinceR | they're preferable to only supporting ie and firefox | Jul 09 17:48 |
| MinceR | via browser-specific hacks | Jul 09 17:49 |
| schestowitz | For specific version/s | Jul 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | *ie, firefox, chrom{e,ium} and safari | Jul 09 17:49 |
| schestowitz | why curly? | Jul 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | because glob | Jul 09 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Safari is not a browser | Jul 09 17:49 |
| MinceR | if you're going to be strict, neither is ie | Jul 09 17:50 |
| schestowitz | It's an enclosement for fanbois who love Aqua/Brushed Metal | Jul 09 17:50 |
| schestowitz | IE too... | Jul 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | they're both malware | Jul 09 17:50 |
| MinceR | with a gui | Jul 09 17:50 |
| schestowitz | For those who love ugly grey UI | Jul 09 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Safari isn't even making its own rendering engine | Jul 09 17:50 |
| schestowitz | And it must have some very dumbed-down option | Jul 09 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Does it allow chanaging font size [too confusing]? | Jul 09 17:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] opensource.com ran out of ideas and its posts are not so focused on code anymore, e.g. http://ur1.ca/0lz3x | Jul 09 17:53 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Spreading the word - A social publishing strategy | opensource.com .::. Size~: 43.19 KB | Jul 09 17:53 |
| schestowitz | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Jul-07.html | Jul 09 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | Miguel... go back to Microsoft | Jul 09 17:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Motorola Sells More and More #Linux Phones http://ur1.ca/0lz4y http://ur1.ca/0lz4z http://ur1.ca/0lz50 http://ur1.ca/0lz52 | Jul 09 17:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Shows Its Vision of Next #Firefox http://ur1.ca/0kwdh http://ur1.ca/0lz56 http://ur1.ca/0lz57 http://ur1.ca/0lz58 | Jul 09 17:58 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Verizon Releases Droid X Video to Tell Us This Phone is Awesome! [VIDEO] | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 32.84 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Motorola Charm Makes Picture Debut Complete With Android [Unannounced Motorola Charm Shows Its Face For Camera With Android 2.1 And MOTOBLUR In Tow] » TFTS Technology, Gadgets & Curiosities .::. Size~: 26.04 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
| MinceR | not even m$ wants him | Jul 09 17:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/07/08/Canada-Day | Jul 09 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: T-Mobile Flavored Motoroi Spied at FCC | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 30.24 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 4 Beta 1: Tell us what you think! :: The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 223.21 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 4 Beta Is Fast, But Not The Only Browser In Town .::. Size~: 28.98 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe you could move there | Jul 09 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: a map of the open web : Christopher Blizzard .::. Size~: 11.9 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Multiwhatever .::. Size~: 10.05 KB | Jul 09 17:58 |
| MinceR | i don't want to | Jul 09 17:58 |
| schestowitz | WHy not? | Jul 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | It's less Absurb | Jul 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | *rd | Jul 09 17:59 |
| MinceR | it's not | Jul 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | OK, whatever... | Jul 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | trmanco hardly visits | Jul 09 17:59 |
| MinceR | or you mean canada, not m$? | Jul 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he found a gal | Jul 09 18:00 |
| MinceR | i'm not so fond of canada either | Jul 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Jul 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: weather? | Jul 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | G20 protests made .CA look bad | Jul 09 18:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketintellisearch.com/articles/1027501.html | Jul 09 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Shares of Red Hat (RHT) May Continue to Rise .::. Size~: 14.16 KB | Jul 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Blast it.. | Jul 09 18:01 |
| MinceR | nope, the canadian police made .ca look bad | Jul 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Google News got wankered | Jul 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Essentially, lots of 'news' there is fake | Jul 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | It's autogenerated junk | Jul 09 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Some people generate from stock activity some coherent English sentences, with a PC program | Jul 09 18:01 |
| MinceR | apparently they're more brutal than here in absurdistan | Jul 09 18:02 |
| MinceR | and that's no small feat | Jul 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Some just spout out gibberish and it washes off the real news | Jul 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe Stalin-run Absurdistan | Jul 09 18:02 |
| cubezzz | I've never had a problem with police | Jul 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Canada has a red flag, so.. | Jul 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | :-_ | Jul 09 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Swiss police=Pigeon chaser | Jul 09 18:03 |
| cubezzz | Canada isn't too great for FOSS, I'll admit | Jul 09 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it!" | Jul 09 18:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Research Consortium For Open Source Created by European Union With Big Blue http://www.muktware.com/news/07/2010/220 | Jul 09 18:06 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: IBM, EU Create Research Consortium For Open Source | Muktware .::. Size~: 22.15 KB | Jul 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | amicus_curious "The resident troll/astroturfer/evangelist of M$ " http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/07/09/the-magic-of-arm/ | Jul 09 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Magic of ARM at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 35.58 KB | Jul 09 18:06 |
| schestowitz | It took him this long to realise? | Jul 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | This is the same AstroTurfer from USENET | Jul 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Same nyms | Jul 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Bill Weisgerber | Jul 09 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/04/turkey-youtube-google-internet-rights | Jul 09 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Turkey faces legal challenge over YouTube ban | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 71.34 KB | Jul 09 18:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MPL Alpha 1 is Out, Nice Plugins, Move to Google Chrome http://ur1.ca/0lz83 http://ur1.ca/0lz84 http://ur1.ca/0lz86 http://ur1.ca/0lz87 | Jul 09 18:12 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: MPL Alpha 1 released! « Updating the MPL .::. Size~: 6.97 KB | Jul 09 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Absolute 13.1.2 Makes the Switch to Google Chrome - Firefox is still available as an alternative - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.71 KB | Jul 09 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Buzzbird - Awesome Firefox Based Twitter Client For Linux | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 39.43 KB | Jul 09 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/tech-amp-society/113147/dumb-and-dumber-pc-problems "It can happen to anyone. In the past, I've known really bright, computer-savvy people to make such classic mistakes as trying to get an unplugged computer to work and wondering why their PC wasn't on the network ... when the end of the Ethernet cable was lying there by their box. Whoops!" | Jul 09 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dumb and Dumber PC problems | ITworld .::. Size~: 79.13 KB | Jul 09 18:17 |
| schestowitz | wI-fI switched off is a common one | Jul 09 18:18 |
| MinceR | crappy winblows-based programs is another | Jul 09 18:18 |
| MinceR | like this piece of shit called odyssey | Jul 09 18:18 |
| schestowitz | watz dat? | Jul 09 18:18 |
| MinceR | supposed wifi configurator | Jul 09 18:19 |
| MinceR | it sees the virtual interface of virtualbox and goes "oh, wired connection - no need for wifi then" | Jul 09 18:20 |
| MinceR | and the administrators have apparently locked down its configuration, because it's omg-perfect | Jul 09 18:20 |
| MinceR | these people should just grab a fucking hoe and go to the fucking fields | Jul 09 18:20 |
| MinceR | IT is way over their fucking heads | Jul 09 18:20 |
| schestowitz | They have heads? | Jul 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe inflatable :-) | Jul 09 18:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 09 18:28 |
| Kuifje111 | just like how the piratebay got hacked. | Jul 09 18:28 |
| MinceR | it's the blob where their pie hole is | Jul 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technology/france-netherlands-seek-to-halt-internet-censorship-20100709-102id.html | Jul 09 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Breaking News: Latest Business, Local, National & World News .::. Size~: 79.61 KB | Jul 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Jul 09 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Seems like PR though | Jul 09 18:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Nina Paley animation for EFF's 20th anniversary http://bit.ly/cVhz7Z Reminds "Road to Serfdom" cartoon http://bit.ly/bPfylI | Jul 09 18:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MIT's OpenCourseWare Uses Free #CMS Software, Guardian Releases #WordPress Plugin http://ur1.ca/0lzdf http://ur1.ca/0lzdg | Jul 09 18:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Set of Free/Libre CMSs is Coming, Barebones #CMS Introduced http://ur1.ca/0lzdi http://ur1.ca/0lzdj http://ur1.ca/0lzdk | Jul 09 18:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: EFF Celebrates 20th Anniversary With New Animation by Nina Paley .::. Size~: 35.55 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Illustrated Road to Serfdom .::. Size~: 4.28 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: This Month in Plone - July 2010 — Plone CMS: Open Source Content Management .::. Size~: 26.69 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Alert: What's Coming for Open Source CMS in July 2010 .::. Size~: 84.86 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: What I want for my website | Dries Buytaert .::. Size~: 30.66 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Open Source Barebones CMS Offers High-Performance, Easy Website Design and Content Management for Team Environments - PR.com .::. Size~: 16.36 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/40272502#notice-40537450 "opensource.com hasn't focused solely on code in a while... I think it's good to try to spread open source ideals everywhere." | Jul 09 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.63 KB | Jul 09 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Well, "source" implies code, usually | Jul 09 18:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @rcweir Nina Paley animation for EFF's 20th anniversary http://bit.ly/cVhz7Z Reminds "Road to Serfdom" cartoon http://bit.ly/bPfylI | Jul 09 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: EFF Celebrates 20th Anniversary With New Animation by Nina Paley .::. Size~: 35.55 KB | Jul 09 18:33 |
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| MinceR | ah, this shitpile is by Juniper | Jul 09 18:47 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/09/iran-blackout-over-stoning-sentence-woman | Jul 09 19:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @michaelgeist RT @joelfightsback: Judge Gertner just ruled Joel Tenenbaum's $675,000 P2P-filing sharing damages are unconstitutional | Jul 09 19:16 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, nothing another Obama appointment can't fix | Jul 09 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | $200 million fine for 24 MP3s is just A-OK with the Obama administration | Jul 09 19:19 |
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| squarepeg | $200 million fine for 24 mp3s? | Jul 09 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 09 19:27 |
| squarepeg | wtf? | Jul 09 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Obama tried to "advise" the judge presiding over the Jammie Thomas-Rasset appeal that $200 million was a "constitutionally sound" fine | Jul 09 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | err, wait, that was $2 million | Jul 09 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | ok, still obscene | Jul 09 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | $83,333.33 for each song | Jul 09 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | which cost 99 cents or less on online stores | Jul 09 19:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Tom Silverman Proposes Radically Transparent Music Business - http://bit.ly/9q6BhB v. interesting stuff, worth reading #music #spotify | Jul 09 19:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is pimping out the cartels that are suing Americans | Jul 09 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | in Ubuntu One Music Store | Jul 09 19:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Brazil's Approach on Anti-Circumvention: Penalties For Hindering Fair Dealing - http://bit.ly/9cVf1w a bit of balance #copyright #brazil | Jul 09 19:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Ubuntu is setting itself up to be a public menace | Jul 09 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | full of DRM | Jul 09 19:31 |
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| DaemonFC | that's my opinion, with this Fog computing crap and a "new platform for paid applications" | Jul 09 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu's goal is to have a proprietary monopoly on where your data ends up | Jul 09 19:32 |
| MinceR | i'm afraid you're right | Jul 09 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | and the new software center in 10.10 will be a DRM platform | Jul 09 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | for non-free applications | Jul 09 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I believe that Ubuntu will be just as much of a problem as Novell and Suse eventually | Jul 09 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily a patent troll | Jul 09 19:33 |
| MinceR | that's also possible | Jul 09 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | but lock-in like crazy | Jul 09 19:33 |
| MinceR | they might even sign a patent deal with m$ | Jul 09 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | they haven't given any indications that they will, but they've deliberately worded their PR to not exclude the possibility | Jul 09 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | in other words, I think they're waiting for a more "digestible" deal | Jul 09 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | i.e, more bribe money to sell out their users or something | Jul 09 19:35 |
| MinceR | perhaps they only want mono, not the kernel stuff that's well known to be bullshit | Jul 09 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | if you're going to get a lot of bad PR, you may as well wait until the price is right | Jul 09 19:35 |
| MinceR | and until you've locked in enough users | Jul 09 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't make any sense for Ubuntu to sign a Novell style deal right now | Jul 09 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | right now they have little credibility in business use cases | Jul 09 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | they'll wait until they have lots of paying customers locked-in to Ubuntu before they approach Microsoft asking for money | Jul 09 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's harder to stab people in the back when they really don't depend on you that much | Jul 09 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They were treading softly, but they manage to work in more proprietary stuff, more patent deals, etc. in every Ubuntu release | Jul 09 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's like testing the water as you go | Jul 09 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | instead of just diving in | Jul 09 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | if they do one bad thing and the users don't heavily criticize them, more bad behavior is on the way | Jul 09 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I think Canonical and Ubuntu are just slowly testing how much they can get away with exploiting their users | Jul 09 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | They can commit to Ubuntu always being free of charge, but making it to where the system is/feels useless unless you unload a dump truck full of money on their services and applications | Jul 09 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's not really that unlike Microsoft carpet bombing with Windows Starter for free, and then charging you for the real thing once they have it in your home | Jul 09 19:42 |
| MinceR | except canonical is smart enough to make it a subscription, not a one-off tax | Jul 09 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | no upfront cost makes Ubuntu look more affordable | Jul 09 19:43 |
| MinceR | which m$ wishes they could do | Jul 09 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | but it's really not | Jul 09 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Home users hate subscription licensing | Jul 09 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft knows that | Jul 09 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine when you stop paying the rent and Ubuntu shuts off the nice extras | Jul 09 19:44 |
| MinceR | but what if the subscription is for online storage or DRM-ed "content"? | Jul 09 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | at least Windows doesn't tend to jsut stop working after you license it | Jul 09 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | there's not countdown is what I mean | Jul 09 19:44 |
| MinceR | perhaps even for sw patents | Jul 09 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | *no | Jul 09 19:44 |
| MinceR | winblows tends to just stop working after you install it | Jul 09 19:44 |
| MinceR | sometimes even before | Jul 09 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Eventually, Ubuntu could stop FOSS plug-ins from working at all | Jul 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | like codecs | Jul 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | they could compile gstreamer to refuse to load the free codec plug-ins | Jul 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | and shove Fluendo in on you | Jul 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | "Sure you can maybe work around this, but that voids your support contract" | Jul 09 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | at this point there seem to be all kinds of likely abuse coming | Jul 09 19:46 |
| MinceR | stop giving them ideas :) | Jul 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Look, we'll give you MP3 decoding free of charge to start you off" | Jul 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | "With our good pals over at Fluendo" | Jul 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Buy the rest for only $50 | Jul 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's not like online storage is new | Jul 09 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | AOL had better price plans on XDrive back when it was shut down several years ago | Jul 09 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | than what Ubuntu One has now | Jul 09 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | What makes Ubuntu think that charging more for less space is going to make people suddenly want to use something they have been avoiding already? | Jul 09 19:49 |
| MinceR | the brand | Jul 09 19:50 |
| MinceR | oh, and the "experience" | Jul 09 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | There's Microsoft Skydrive | Jul 09 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | you get 25 GB free there | Jul 09 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | I trust them about as much as Amazon, which is what Ubuntu uses | Jul 09 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | do you think Microsoft or Amazon would refuse government spy agency requests? | Jul 09 19:51 |
| MinceR | funny, amazon already signed the patent deal | Jul 09 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | or fight search warrants? | Jul 09 19:51 |
| MinceR | they obviously wouldn't | Jul 09 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason to trust either Ubuntu/Amazon or Microsoft with sensitive data | Jul 09 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | if all you want to do is throw in benign data that you've already figured will be forked over to the government upon request, then go ahead | Jul 09 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | but Microsoft gives you more free space for that | Jul 09 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | For that matter, sites like Rapidshare or MegaUpload are probably more prone to tell the government to piss off | Jul 09 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | cause they're not in the US | Jul 09 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and have a history of doing that | Jul 09 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no storage quota | Jul 09 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | they just throttle free users | Jul 09 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: What's funny is all the people hosting cracks for Microsoft products on a Skydrive account | Jul 09 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | then wondering why their Live account got banned | Jul 09 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 19:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 09 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I saw one guy complaining because Microsoft killed his XBOX Live and Hotmail accounts | Jul 09 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | because he was hosting cracks on his Skydrive | Jul 09 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | which was linked to his important stuff :P | Jul 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like attaching that to an account that has your real name, address, and credit card number to boot | Jul 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Jul 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | people aren't real bright | Jul 09 19:58 |
| MinceR | especially people who pay m$ | Jul 09 19:58 |
| MinceR | when they don't have to | Jul 09 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I usually don't | Jul 09 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | as soon as something is on MSDN, Technet, or Dreamspark, I have a license for it | Jul 09 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I have access to more stuff than I even use | Jul 09 20:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] How many employees do the BBC have at Rothbury? Is it ethical to dawdle and try and interview a cop when told to get back? | Jul 09 20:00 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I compiled a list of Windows 7 hotfixes that Microsoft hasn't put on Windows Update | Jul 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Not counting the hotfixes that were later replaced with newer versions of the same fix, there are 292 of them | Jul 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | spanning everything from minor annoyances, to crashes, to random bizarre failures | Jul 09 20:01 |
| MinceR | isn't winblows update just great? | Jul 09 20:02 |
| MinceR | it steals the focus and kicks your apps out of full screen mode and still doesn't install all the updates | Jul 09 20:02 |
| cubezzz | why are you even talking about windows? | Jul 09 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | counting Windows Update, there's probably about 350+ fixes out for Windows 7 | Jul 09 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | because it's just that reliable :) | Jul 09 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: SP1 is shaping up to be the biggest single Service Pack ever by number of individual fixes | Jul 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | even eclipsing XP SP2 | Jul 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | of course windows is reliable....as a source of income for peeps who fix them | Jul 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bet on it addressing at least 400 Windows 7 bugs | Jul 09 20:04 |
| cubezzz | and people wonder why I use older simpler operating systes | Jul 09 20:05 |
| cubezzz | systems | Jul 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | the whole reason to issue megapatches (Service Packs) is so people don't notice the sheer number of problems the product has | Jul 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise you'd push out the 400 bug fixes on your update system | Jul 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | XP is up past 4,000 individual patches since RTM | Jul 09 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | if you count the service packs, plus all post-SP3 hotfixes | Jul 09 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | 3 service packs -vs- 4,000 hotfixes | Jul 09 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | it looks less ungainly when you issue Service Packs | Jul 09 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | more manageable | Jul 09 20:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSWITCH Improvs, Advice for Free/Libre #VoIP http://ur1.ca/0lzz5 http://ur1.ca/0lzz6 | Jul 09 20:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 389 Directory Server Replaces Microsoft, New Free Software of its Kind http://ur1.ca/0lzz9 http://ur1.ca/0lzza http://ur1.ca/0lzzb | Jul 09 20:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: You remember when Microsoft "punished" Mary Jo Foley for leaking the news that Microsoft was AWARE of over 2,000 defects in Windows 2000 RTM? | Jul 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 20:08 |
| Balrog | hey, schestowitz around? | Jul 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | maybe that's where the name really came from | Jul 09 20:09 |
| Balrog | I'm wondering what caching solution you use for mediawiki | Jul 09 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Jul 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | i don't | Jul 09 20:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] is EVERYONE in Rothbury on camera a BBC employee? | Jul 09 20:09 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They punish you for saying bad things about them | Jul 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | they haven't reached me yet :) | Jul 09 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | by blacklisting you and excluding you from all their PR updates | Jul 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | oh noes | Jul 09 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: what's up? | Jul 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | not getting bullshit from m$, what am i going to do? :> | Jul 09 20:10 |
| schestowitz | [18:47] <MinceR> ah, this shitpile is by Juniper | Jul 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Mary Jo Foley has been fairly obedient since that mishap | Jul 09 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Many of its execs are from Microsoft | Jul 09 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Inc. the CEO | Jul 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | so they've let her "back into the fold" | Jul 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 20:10 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that explains the quality, then | Jul 09 20:10 |
| cubezzz | I bet if someone wrote a "keep it simple stupid" OS it would do very well | Jul 09 20:11 |
| MinceR | well, there's CP/M | Jul 09 20:11 |
| cubezzz | come on now... | Jul 09 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | well, every time someone writes a ground up OS without legacy crap, it fails because it's "not compatible with what's out there" | Jul 09 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | the fate of BeOS | Jul 09 20:11 |
| cubezzz | you know what I mean | Jul 09 20:11 |
| MinceR | depending on what sense of "simple" you mean, of course | Jul 09 20:11 |
| MinceR | my problem with BeOS wasn't that, but that it lacked basic unix features | Jul 09 20:12 |
| cubezzz | something like tiny linux | Jul 09 20:12 |
| MinceR | Tiny Core? | Jul 09 20:12 |
| cubezzz | no, I didn't like it | Jul 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | UNIX is a rolling ungodly mess of over 40 years worth of things that largely make no sense anymore | Jul 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | not that Windows is a lot better | Jul 09 20:12 |
| cubezzz | it's not Unix any more | Jul 09 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the worst of UNIX survives in Unix-like systems | Jul 09 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | and has to for compatibility reasons | Jul 09 20:13 |
| cubezzz | it's basically good, it's just become too bloated | Jul 09 20:14 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: no, Unix is the OS that everyone tries to reinvent and then fails | Jul 09 20:14 |
| cubezzz | the basic idea of Unix was great | Jul 09 20:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Distraught woman, hounded by researchers to the effect of "c'mon give us some emotional stuff to film" | Jul 09 20:14 | |
| MinceR | it contains all the fundamentals of an OS, yet other contenders still forget about them | Jul 09 20:14 |
| MinceR | BeOS forgot about multiuser and access control, for example | Jul 09 20:14 |
| MinceR | multiuser is difficult to hack in afterwards (see winblows) | Jul 09 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | except that it was designed on systems where every clock cycle counted so you get lulzy crap like case-insensitive file names | Jul 09 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | whoops | Jul 09 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 20:15 |
| MinceR | huh? | Jul 09 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | which is made even more hilarious because you've got tons of bloated crap like X11 | Jul 09 20:15 |
| MinceR | those who don't understand X are doomed to reinvent it, poorly | Jul 09 20:16 |
| MinceR | those who don't understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly | Jul 09 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | which make the system too top-heavy for most systems of this decade anyway | Jul 09 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | especially when put together with GNOME or KDE or something | Jul 09 20:16 |
| cubezzz | not so bloated it didn't run on 16 megs of ram at one point | Jul 09 20:16 |
| MinceR | you certainly don't seem to understand X, DaemonFC | Jul 09 20:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @michaelgeist RT @joelfightsback: ....just ruled Joel Tenenbaum's $675,000 P2P-filing sharing damages are unconstitutional | Jul 09 20:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Has No Deficiency of Technical Support http://ur1.ca/0m00z http://ur1.ca/0m010 | Jul 09 20:16 | |
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| schestowitz | [19:18] <DaemonFC> yeah, nothing another Obama appointment can't fix | Jul 09 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Biden? | Jul 09 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | so you have the system requirements of any other modern OS with lots of throwbacks to legacy crap that makes no sense | Jul 09 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Biden The Punisher | Jul 09 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 20:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of Areas Where Quality of Free Software on Par With or Better Than Proprietary http://ur1.ca/0m00y http://ur1.ca/0m011 | Jul 09 20:17 | |
| DaemonFC | he'll gaffe you and take 50,000 hit points | Jul 09 20:17 |
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| MinceR | no, it's stuff that doesn't make sense to someone who's used to crap GUIs like winblows and osx | Jul 09 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPF3AwVPM4&feature=related | Jul 09 20:19 |
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| DaemonFC | BIDN summons DMCA1 for 500 HP | Jul 09 20:19 |
| cubezzz | tell me which OS is the best | Jul 09 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 20:19 |
| cubezzz | I dare you | Jul 09 20:19 |
| schestowitz | [19:31] <DaemonFC> Ubuntu is pimping out the cartels that are suing Americans | Jul 09 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Stop inciting | Jul 09 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | they're directly funding the cartels now | Jul 09 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | by selling cartel music and licensing cartel codecs directly | Jul 09 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | then again, Ubuntu is trying to make a second rate Mac clone | Jul 09 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | so they may as well emulate the high rollers here too I guess | Jul 09 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Isn't this really the same thing Apple did to open source software? | Jul 09 20:22 |
| cubezzz | I wish people would say FOSS rather than OSS | Jul 09 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | base their system on it but add enough proprietary garbage on top to lock people in? | Jul 09 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is really turning into SPAM OS | Jul 09 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:23 |
| schestowitz | [19:51] <DaemonFC> There's Microsoft Skydrive | Jul 09 20:23 |
| schestowitz | You know what happens when you try driving in the sky :-) | Jul 09 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | you can't click on anything without having advertising shoved at you | Jul 09 20:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] OMFG "Can you put your mum on the speaker-phone" - anything to get a fucking quote.....fucking Jackals | Jul 09 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | I can think of a nice logo/splash screen for microsoft.com/skydrive | Jul 09 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Needs a photo of grand canyon and old car | Jul 09 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | right click on a file, there's links to Ubuntu One, even if you don't want to use Ubuntu One | Jul 09 20:24 |
| schestowitz | [19:55] <DaemonFC> then wondering why their Live account got banned | Jul 09 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | open the music player, there's links to their music store, and a plug-in that adds to the music player's footprint | Jul 09 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Hotmail is junk | Jul 09 20:24 |
| schestowitz | My grandpa tried to mail me from there today | Jul 09 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I didn't get it | Jul 09 20:24 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: crApple raped it harder, but ubuntu might be getting there | Jul 09 20:24 |
| MinceR | even if partly through gnome dumbing down itself | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What I don't get is why Ubuntu can't pop up a "first time" screen that asks you if you'll ever use any of that crap | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | and shreds it all if you tell it no | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | instead they mark it as "essential system components" | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | even when they aren't | Jul 09 20:25 |
| schestowitz | [20:09] <Balrog> I'm wondering what caching solution you use for mediawiki | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | to make it harder to purge | Jul 09 20:25 |
| schestowitz | We use varnish | Jul 09 20:25 |
| schestowitz | It's CMS agnostic for the most part | Jul 09 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint is trying to get away from Ubuntu without inciting all the Ubuntu fanboys | Jul 09 20:26 |
| MinceR | they already managed to get away from installing their public keys | Jul 09 20:26 |
| MinceR | signature warnings are just the thing i need | Jul 09 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's a pattern of distros that thought basing on Ubuntu would make their lives easier, then when it turned into a living hell for them, they killed Ubuntu off and rebased on Debian | Jul 09 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | pulling Ubuntu packages in to base your distro off of is a bad idea for a lot of reasons I can think of | Jul 09 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | not the least of which is all the defective patches that aren't well documented that were hacked in to provide a framework for something only Ubuntu uses | Jul 09 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: take page snapshots maybe | Jul 09 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | (and maybe you don't and it causes bugs to surface in your spin off) | Jul 09 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Bad news... Mono is now a Microsoft project | Jul 09 20:28 |
| *schestowitz does post about it | Jul 09 20:28 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BP could have accidentally drilled into an underwater volcano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCvMQhbH-8 | Jul 09 20:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] A has gone out!! F is so far tetchy but not kicking off. So far so okay. | Jul 09 20:29 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: A rolling Mint release based on Debian Testing sounds a hell of a lot better than what they have now | Jul 09 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | broken Ubuntu hand me downs | Jul 09 20:31 |
| MinceR | especially if they get the keys right | Jul 09 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is not meant to be a cooperative base for your own distro | Jul 09 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's a fiat system ruled by Shuttleworth to fulfill only Canonical's requirements | Jul 09 20:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Journalists back to core competencies as house prices do something http://is.gd/dlUha | Jul 09 20:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9GRJT8G0.htm | Jul 09 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 09 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | there goes another one | Jul 09 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | people run for office to build inside connections to use on a resume for when they leave and join a lobbying firm that pays better | Jul 09 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's no spirit of public service | Jul 09 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | I can't name a single politician that isn't on the take in some way | Jul 09 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh look, we baked you a pie full of hundred dollar bills" | Jul 09 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | "I can skim off the top of public works funds and nobody will ever know" | Jul 09 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Really if a guy like Updike manages to get into office, increase taxes by over 30%, while cutting services, and nobody bothers to ask why, I guess the town deserves him. | Jul 09 20:39 |
| MinceR | but do you? | Jul 09 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Jul 09 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | he's just....there | Jul 09 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | and there is nobody that will take him on that's not at least as crooked | Jul 09 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | the local papers are owned by relatives of his | Jul 09 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | so they refuse to print anything politically unfavorable to him | Jul 09 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a town hall, it's the local Politburo | Jul 09 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Even if we got a decent mayor, he couldn't live up to his promises thanks to the fact that the city council would just keep overruling him | Jul 09 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | so it's a cycle | Jul 09 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: You'd have the same thing that happened to Jesse Ventura when he was the governor or Minnesota | Jul 09 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | the Democrats and Republicans banded together to destroy him | Jul 09 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | because they were afraid that electing non-party politicians would maybe catch on if he was a success story | Jul 09 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | *of Minnesota | Jul 09 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The thing the Democrats and Republicans will always agree on is voting to keep each other in power | Jul 09 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | it's a cooperation between supposed competitors | Jul 09 20:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 09 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | if you look, each party defines itself by using social issues | Jul 09 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | not stopping white collar criminals | Jul 09 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're both strongly in favor of keeping the cash flow going to those guys | Jul 09 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: states are openly advertising convict labor | Jul 09 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | to "compete" with 3rd world foreign countries | Jul 09 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | so they rig the legal system to make petty crimes carry mandatory minimum sentencing | Jul 09 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | not white collar crime, crimes that poor people commit | Jul 09 20:50 |
| Balrog | schestowitz: I see. | Jul 09 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you steal a car worth $5,000 in a nonviolent way, you go to real prison for 10 years, if you steal a million dollars using clever fraud tactics, you go to Club Fed for a year | Jul 09 20:51 |
| Balrog | right now I've got it running on a windows server (because this is an old website from 1999 written in ASP) and I'm trying it with WinCache, but I was wondering what you use | Jul 09 20:51 |
| Balrog | this is a small website though | Jul 09 20:51 |
| MinceR | so slavery is back? :> | Jul 09 20:51 |
| Balrog | we're planning to move away from windows but that's going to take time | Jul 09 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | that's also the reason why crack cocaine carries ten times the punishment of powdered cocaine, MinceR | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | poor people tend to use crack | Jul 09 20:52 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | rich people tend to use the powdered | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's equally bad for you obviously | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | same reason Marijuana is illegal | Jul 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's not typically a rich person's drug of choice | Jul 09 20:52 |
| MinceR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg | Jul 09 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC | but it's kept to a class A misdemeanor in most cases | Jul 09 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | so rich people can pay a fine and not go to jail for a year | Jul 09 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | like a poor person with the public defender would get | Jul 09 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | the government punishes things more severely if they're a type of crime a poor/uneducated person is likely to engage in | Jul 09 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | cause they won't give the system a fight, they have no standing in society, no strings to pull | Jul 09 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | and they're useful for menial labor | Jul 09 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Indiana explicitly allows slavery for convicted criminals | Jul 09 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | constitutionally | Jul 09 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC | the state constitution says you're only exempt from slave labor until you are convicted of a crime | Jul 09 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC | so you'd have to go to a federal court to challenge it | Jul 09 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | but they have a record of not "calling" it slavery when it hits the federal court system | Jul 09 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: A lot of times the prison system gives them something of little value, like commissary money of $1 per hour they worked | Jul 09 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | or extra priviliges | Jul 09 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | then it doesn't count as slavery legally | Jul 09 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | you're behind bars anyway, might as well go do some work so you can get a pack of cigarettes | Jul 09 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's why the US has 1 in every 100 citizens in jail/prison | Jul 09 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | slave labor | Jul 09 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | lots of menial labor to do and so many people to not pay minimum wage to do it | Jul 09 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Also, every sentence (for felonies anyway) is effectively a life sentence | Jul 09 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | they make your record such to where nobody will eve hire you when they let you out of prison | Jul 09 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | so you go back to crime, then you're theirs again for another 10-20 years | Jul 09 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: You notice the states where the cost of living is so high that they really don't have that many poor people are legalizing things like pot | Jul 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | all the people they were catching with it tend to be rich and white | Jul 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to let them go anyway, why not just make it a $100 civil infraction? (Massachusetts) | Jul 09 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | nobody is going to hire a lawyer to get out of a $100 infraction | Jul 09 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | this way everyone pays up | Jul 09 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2002378,00.html?xid=rss-topstories | Jul 09 21:06 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, the Tomahawk, thanks Mr. Reagan | Jul 09 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | a million dollars a shot to destroy something of the enemy's that's probably not even worth $50,000 | Jul 09 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | that'll sure break them down | Jul 09 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | Tomahawk was originally designed to carry a small nuclear warhead | Jul 09 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | now they're just a really expensive flying bomb | Jul 09 21:08 |
| MinceR | is that bad? | Jul 09 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | "the Chinese military awoke to find as many as 462 new Tomahawks deployed by the U.S. in its neighborhood" | Jul 09 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's like as if to say "Now...., about those loans" | Jul 09 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They're a waste of money | Jul 09 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | carrying a much less destructive payload then they were purpose built for | Jul 09 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | we managed to con the British into buying a ton of them | Jul 09 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | there's that at least | Jul 09 21:11 |
| MinceR | at least they aren't spreading nuclear waste everywhere | Jul 09 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | subsidizes quite a few of our own | Jul 09 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's the only reason Israel is around | Jul 09 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | they have modern US/British munitions | Jul 09 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the surrounding countries are using Soviet equipment from the 1960s and 70s | Jul 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | it really tips the balance of terror when one of your combat units is ten times as effective as one of the other guys | Jul 09 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:14 |
| MinceR | afaik israel also gets funding from all over the place, especially USA | Jul 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Soviet military production system seemed determined to run their enemies out of bullets or something | Jul 09 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | having lots of crap out there doesn't really help you a lot | Jul 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | you'll end up in a situation where your own forces are impeding your advancement | Jul 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's what I never understood about the Soviets | Jul 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | things like the T-72 tank | Jul 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | you need a lot of diesel to run one of those, right? | Jul 09 21:17 |
| MinceR | most likely | Jul 09 21:17 |
| MinceR | it's really heavy | Jul 09 21:17 |
| MinceR | but it's probably also very well armored :> | Jul 09 21:17 |
| MinceR | and well armed | Jul 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | so why cheap out on the main gun, targeting system, and armor? | Jul 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | why not just build the best damned tank you can and have less of them? | Jul 09 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | instead of chasing your T-72s with fuel trucks? | Jul 09 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | once you go that route, there's a column of fuel trucks that are nicely situated for an enemy bombing run | Jul 09 21:18 |
| MinceR | maybe they didn't have the technology for a better targeting system and the like? | Jul 09 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | so once you have all that out there, advancing slowly, you have to wash it down with SAMs to protect all the rest | Jul 09 21:19 |
| MinceR | also, armies rarely consist of a single type of unit :> | Jul 09 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | it was just an example | Jul 09 21:19 |
| MinceR | yes, but you imagine that they intended to win a war solely with T-72s | Jul 09 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | they built weapons systems that weren't all that great and strapped them to unit types that needed about the same support resources ours did | Jul 09 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | such as fuel | Jul 09 21:20 |
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| DaemonFC | nuclear weapons suited the Soviet style | Jul 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | you can lose a lot of them | Jul 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | they don't need to be very accurate | Jul 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | and you'll still do a lot of damage | Jul 09 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | the Soviets weren't particularly well suited for conventional warfare | Jul 09 21:22 |
| MinceR | i thought that was their focus | Jul 09 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | so they become aggressive with their nuclear weapons program | Jul 09 21:22 |
| MinceR | nukes are not an alternative, they're something you must have | Jul 09 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, nukes turned a certain defeat into a stalemate | Jul 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | for them | Jul 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | so they were not an option | Jul 09 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | they were mandatory | Jul 09 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: There was a old book I was reading in which the cold war ended and the US and USSR both came clean about their real nuclear weapons program | Jul 09 21:24 |
| MinceR | actually nukes work like this: if you don't have them, you're screwed. if you have them, go ahead with more conventional stuff :> | Jul 09 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The US had missiles and no warheads | Jul 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | because we weren't crazy enough to actually use them and figured that the Soviet first strike would kill the planet anyway | Jul 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | and the USSR had no actual missiles, but lots of warheads | Jul 09 21:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | because they figured if we launched, they might as well blow all their warheads up too | Jul 09 21:25 |
| MinceR | so Jesusland and Russia together can kill the planet | Jul 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | and it would kill everything on the planet | Jul 09 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | we're over there scrapping Russian nuclear warheads | Jul 09 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | to generate fuel for our power plants | Jul 09 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | but that's probably the best thing that could have happened to them | Jul 09 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: To feel safe, you must possess a weapon you hope you never have to use | Jul 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's the issue with individual gun ownership | Jul 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | people who don't want to arm themselves have to because all the criminals have weapons | Jul 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | and the police can't be trusted | Jul 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | the gun manufacturers love this system | Jul 09 21:29 |
| MinceR | that's why individual gun ownership is necessary | Jul 09 21:29 |
| MinceR | prohibiting guns doesn't take them away from the criminals and doesn't make the police trustworthy | Jul 09 21:29 |
| MinceR | it just makes everyone else defenseless | Jul 09 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Do you see something wrong with having to deputize every civilian? Telling them that the police won't be there? | Jul 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Even giving civilians a power to arrest? | Jul 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's effectively what it's coming to | Jul 09 21:30 |
| MinceR | not sure about power to arrest, i don't grok the concept | Jul 09 21:30 |
| MinceR | otherwise i don't see anything wrong with it | Jul 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | when the official word from the Sheriff is "We don't have a budget, so arm yoruself" | Jul 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | We'll be there to document the dead bodies on the deck | Jul 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | you just sort it out, we'll be out there in 20 minutes to clean up after you | Jul 09 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:32 |
| MinceR | if that's the official word, i'd consider taking the rest of their budget and powers away | Jul 09 21:32 |
| MinceR | they aren't doing anything so why fund and empower them? | Jul 09 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Jul 09 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | When there's one sheriff deputy to patrol the entire county (as was the case in an Ohio county a while back) and they're telling people to arm themselves.... | Jul 09 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's exactly what I thought | Jul 09 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | why not just fire the ones that are left? | Jul 09 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:34 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Once Updike manages to fire the police officers he's looking to get rid of, I think we'll have something like 15 police officers spread between 3 shifts | Jul 09 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's one to act as the dispatcher | Jul 09 21:35 |
| MinceR | think about the cost savings | Jul 09 21:36 |
| MinceR | ;) | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | meaning at most, 4 officers on duty | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | to police 20,000 people | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | 1 cop for every 5,000 people | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | if there's ever an armed riot to overthrow the town government, I hope the police surrender quickly | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think that may be what they're trying to provoke | Jul 09 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | gives the governor an excuse to declare martial law | Jul 09 21:37 |
| MinceR | they can go around and collect the corpses | Jul 09 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | and call in the Indiana Guard | Jul 09 21:37 |
| MinceR | what's that like? | Jul 09 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: According to the state constitution, the governor has the power to suspend the rule of law under two cases | Jul 09 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Majority vote of the state General Assembly | Jul 09 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | 2. The General Assembly cannot manage to gather and vote on it | Jul 09 21:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 21:39 |
| MinceR | oh exploitable | Jul 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The federal government technically cannot declare martial law | Jul 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | but the Guard can impose martial law when acting under the command of the state governor | Jul 09 21:39 |
| MinceR | can they just send the Guard out to block the place where the Assembly is supposed to happen to let the governor use case number 2? | Jul 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | the National Guard of each state is considered under the direct command of that state's governor unless called into federal service | Jul 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | so each state effectively has a sizable army and air force of its own | Jul 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | but the fed can "borrow them" | Jul 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | They used to advertise "One weekend a month, two weeks a year", because that's all the active duty time that you had to serve unless called into active service | Jul 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a picture of an Indiana National Guard Humvee in Iraq | Jul 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | with a cardboard sign reading "One weekend a month, MY ASS!!!" | Jul 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The feds like to use the National Guard as a way to trick people to enlist during peace time | Jul 09 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | that way they only have to pay them a few weeks worth of pay every year | Jul 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | can call them up any time | Jul 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | then deactivate them again | Jul 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | they try to lure people in by promising to pay for your college tuition | Jul 09 21:44 |
| cubezzz | ntp is suing more companies I see | Jul 09 21:45 |
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| DaemonFC | so you join up figuring "What are the chances?" and end up being deployed to Somaliaz | Jul 09 21:45 |
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| DaemonFC | *Somalia | Jul 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's a bad deal | Jul 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | a real bad deal | Jul 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather be stuck paying off student loans for 10 years | Jul 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get why anyone would want to sign up to go on a "UN peacekeeping exercise" | Jul 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | if the damned third worlders want to kill and rape each other, let's not get in the middle of it | Jul 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | spoil all their fun | Jul 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | maybe even get a few of us killed | Jul 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Jul 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | serve your country? my country isn't part of Africa or the middle east | Jul 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | hell with them | Jul 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | if a civil war broke out here, how many African countries would be over here trying to stop it? | Jul 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Indiana's right to bear arms is "for the protection of the individual and the State" | Jul 09 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'll make a deal with them | Jul 09 21:49 |
| cubezzz | I hate it when I look for X source code and I get xbox references | Jul 09 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | when the state's enemies start shooting at me | Jul 09 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'll valiantly come to the defense of the state | Jul 09 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 21:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 21:50 |
| MinceR | your country actually does want a piece of the middle east :> | Jul 09 21:50 |
| MinceR | they already own a piece of it, but that piece doesn't seem to have much oil :> | Jul 09 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | well, when Iraq ratifies the US Constitution, I'll consider it | Jul 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | how's that work for you? :) | Jul 09 21:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 21:51 |
| MinceR | they're more subtle than that | Jul 09 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Puerto Rico is the most likely 51st state | Jul 09 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | but they're split | Jul 09 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | they can never get a majority to break away from the US or to agree to become a state | Jul 09 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | the UN told us to "decolonize" Puerto Rico | Jul 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | we told them to fuck themselves | Jul 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's the situation there | Jul 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's like, the offer is on the table | Jul 09 21:53 |
| squarepeg | The UN can take a hike. | Jul 09 21:54 |
| MinceR | if only | Jul 09 21:54 |
| squarepeg | with regards to telling the USA about Puerto Rico | Jul 09 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | apparently they like having no representation, no vote for President, paying US taxes, being draft-eligible, etc. | Jul 09 21:54 |
| MinceR | i'm tired of the antics of the WIPO | Jul 09 21:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT: @philshapiro: "Could Linux become the world's most popular operating system?" - Computerworld. http://tinyurl.com/2b4qjzc | Jul 09 21:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: They're already so dependent on the US that they would never recover if they decided to leave | Jul 09 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't know what their hold up is | Jul 09 21:55 |
| squarepeg | Puerto Rico will become the next state when the time comes. | Jul 09 21:55 |
| squarepeg | I think we might want to get another state in addition to Puerto Rico at the same time, for a "full deck". 51 is an odd number. | Jul 09 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | they're US citizens, but Puerto Rico is a self-governing US territory | Jul 09 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | meaning they can come and live in any state they like | Jul 09 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | but I could not move to Puerto Rico | Jul 09 21:56 |
| squarepeg | that's pretty good | Jul 09 21:56 |
| MinceR | so they have a good deal right now? :> | Jul 09 21:56 |
| squarepeg | it can be improved | Jul 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yeah, the same deal the Democrats want to give to the Mexicans | Jul 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | i.e. You can come in now, and bring all your friends! | Jul 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | except they don't have to swim an ocean to make good on the offer | Jul 09 21:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Well..back from work....Preparing a Linux LiveCD to take around the inlaws...they will be Linux users after tomorrow | Jul 09 21:57 | |
| DaemonFC | more people are decided to leave Mexico than to stay and make a life for themselves and build their own country | Jul 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Mexico's status as a third world country is due to the fact that the people that could be doing something there flee here instead | Jul 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's quicker and easier to come here and sponge off welfare than it is to stay home and contribute to Mexico | Jul 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There was an illegal Mexican in court when I was in the courtroom | Jul 09 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | the judge was trying to tell him through a translator that he had to go get anger management counseling and was now on probation | Jul 09 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | and I was thinking "Or he could just change his name to Juan Valdez and move to Ohio" | Jul 09 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm betting he takes that route" | Jul 09 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | the prosecutor asked the judge if they were going to report him to ICE | Jul 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | and the judge said "If they come looking for him, we'll fork him over" | Jul 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 09 22:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ballmer lands keynote at CES 2011 but can he make it to January? http://tinyurl.com/36c5nud - I hope he does, he's a hoot. #mvp | Jul 09 22:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | I was just sitting there thinking "And some people actually have to serve out their punishment because they can't just disappear into another state" | Jul 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | some people have to pay taxes too | Jul 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | some people get billed by the hospital | Jul 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | and some people have to buy their own food | Jul 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Me, me, me, me..... | Jul 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Could you teach me how to be an ethnic Hungarian | Jul 09 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | cause that's like my fallback plan here | Jul 09 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 22:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 22:08 |
| MinceR | acquire hungarian ancestors | Jul 09 22:08 |
| MinceR | (i'm not sure, i haven't read the law) | Jul 09 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | I could invent some | Jul 09 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | you just fill in mom and dad for me or something I guess | Jul 09 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | we can make this work | Jul 09 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 22:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, right | Jul 09 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | counterfeit Hungarian birth certificate? | Jul 09 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can be your long lost sibling? | Jul 09 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 09 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | or I can hide out and pick tomatoes | Jul 09 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | or whatever you guys have over there | Jul 09 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm cool with that | Jul 09 22:11 |
| MinceR | no | Jul 09 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One thing that I have wondered.... | Jul 09 22:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst you fed an anti-Linux guy there | Jul 09 22:12 | |
| DaemonFC | you know those "Minutemen" groups that sit on the US side of the border and watch for illegal Mexicans? | Jul 09 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what would happen exactly if they shot from the US side and killed someone on the Mexican side | Jul 09 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | liberals like to say that will happen, but it never has | Jul 09 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | (FUD) | Jul 09 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | would they be tried in the US or deported to Mexico? | Jul 09 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN67KJdd6Mw | Jul 09 22:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft lets the secret services access source code of Windows, but members of the public are left out http://ur1.ca/0m0wt | Jul 09 22:25 | |
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| MinceR | :D | Jul 09 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.garylsnyder.com/my_weblog/2010/07/stinky-neighbors-moving-from-atwood-to-huntington.html | Jul 09 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | What do do with stinky garbage? | Jul 09 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Send it to Huntington! | Jul 09 22:27 |
| *DaemonFC wonders how much they bribed Updike | Jul 09 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | "I have to give props to the Republicans for weakening IDEM and the EPA and welcome our new cancer and emphysema-causing overlords. :P" -me | Jul 09 22:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Who is a anti-Linux guy Roy, Shapiro? | Jul 09 22:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: or Preston Gralla? found his claim that Linux lost on the desktop a bit trollish though. | Jul 09 22:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Surely this is a joke? Paul Gascoigne and Moat? am I missing something? http://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/18148334775 | Jul 09 22:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Help Fight Patent Bullying From #Shazam — Spread This Code! http://techrights.org/2010/07/09/speaking-with-code/ #swpats #netapp #patents | Jul 09 22:56 | |
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| schestowitz | Seems like Shazam has a patent proxy: http://identi.ca/conversation/40310185#notice-40574974 | Jul 09 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.landmarkdigital.com/2005/8/30/landmark-launch | Jul 09 23:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst Gralla | Jul 09 23:03 | |
| schestowitz | [22:27] <DaemonFC> Send it to Huntington! | Jul 09 23:03 |
| schestowitz | They uses your house as a rehab cell | Jul 09 23:04 |
| schestowitz | They send the ex-con there, equip you with a gun to be their warden in the transitory phase | Jul 09 23:04 |
| schestowitz | And one cop for each 5,000 people, leaving just you and your banged door for shelter | Jul 09 23:04 |
| schestowitz | But according to DaemonFC&Mom, France has a lot more crime :0) | Jul 09 23:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] To clarity, "Landmark Digital Services, LLC" is BMI's (think about RIAA) shell/troll for using #Shazam "technology" ( #swpats euphemism) | Jul 09 23:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I will shoot him if he gets in here | Jul 09 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I already told the landlord that | Jul 09 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | he doesn't bother me now | Jul 09 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | he even turned his stereo down | Jul 09 23:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: Thanks I'll keep it in mind ;-) | Jul 09 23:10 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, electricity in Indiana is real cheap | Jul 09 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | 8.53 cents per kilowatt hour | Jul 09 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | nice | Jul 09 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's roughly double that in the New England states | Jul 09 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | liberals | Jul 09 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | "I'll get you my pretty, and your air conditioner and refrigerator too!" | Jul 09 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | "We won't stop until an entire city block shares a refrigerator, like China" | Jul 09 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | so if my air conditioner is 6,000 BTU, and has an Energy Efficiency Ratio of 10.7, that means it uses roughly 560 watts | Jul 09 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | 0.56 kW * 8.53 cents per kW-h = 4.7768 cents per hour | Jul 09 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | If I let it run 24 hours a day for a month, it would cost $34.20 in electricity | Jul 09 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't do that, I usually turn it off at night :P | Jul 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | so more like $22.80 | Jul 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jul 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | but if I lived in one of those heavily liberal states, I would be paying about $46 a month to run the air conditioner | Jul 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | nothing like taxes to crush individuality | Jul 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | steal your buying power | Jul 09 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | transfer more of your money to the ruling elite even B-) | Jul 09 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | we could call it global warming | Jul 09 23:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Frederick Kaufman gets letter from Goldman Sachs after showing they bet on hunger and won http://ur1.ca/0m16u | Jul 09 23:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | computer + air conditioner = 41.22 in electricity each month according to my estimates | Jul 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to figure out how much power I could actually be using | Jul 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | the landlord is kind of dicky, my lease says I can use up to $70 a month | Jul 09 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see where that's happening | Jul 09 23:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] After listening to LBC on the way home...Im going to use their idea of "App of the Week" This weeks award (on Android) goes to........ | Jul 09 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.muktware.com/news/09/2010/227 | Jul 09 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | [23:10] <DaemonFC> he even turned his stereo down | Jul 09 23:26 |
| schestowitz | What's what firearms are for...? | Jul 09 23:26 |
| MinceR | firearms are very versatile | Jul 09 23:26 |
| schestowitz | "Noise problem? Get a gun." | Jul 09 23:26 |
| MinceR | they are indeed usable as a universal remote control | Jul 09 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Hard nut? get a sledgehammer. | Jul 09 23:27 |
| MinceR | hard nut? get a bigger gun | Jul 09 23:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: only an "off" button | Jul 09 23:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Marvin - http://marvin-emulator.blogspot.com/ ZX Spectrum emulator for Android! Great stuff. Review shortly! #android | Jul 09 23:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Disposable then | Jul 09 23:27 |
| schestowitz | But it's compatible with all stereos | Jul 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | I think the guy downstairs is afraid of ME | Jul 09 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Few remote controls are | Jul 09 23:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | and he's the one with a felony | Jul 09 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 09 23:27 |
| *DaemonFC is honored | Jul 09 23:28 | |
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| schestowitz | [23:27] <DaemonFC> I think the guy downstairs is afraid of ME | Jul 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he's homophobic | Jul 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Jul 09 23:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | he has a good reason to be in this case | Jul 09 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: tell him you love him | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | He won't get near you | Jul 09 23:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 09 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | is that a pistol in your holster or are you just happy to see me? | Jul 09 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I think he's more scared of the fleshy gun | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Not the flashy one | Jul 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | If that's the guy from the mug | Jul 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | The sex offender | Jul 09 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that one has a rap sheet | Jul 09 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.muktware.com/distromatch/09/2010/228 | Jul 09 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.muktware.com/distromatch/09/2010/228 | Jul 09 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | Another one worth trying? | Jul 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | PCLinuxOS still ignores modern PCs | Jul 09 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: What you mean by not having a 64bit version? | Jul 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 09 23:31 |
| MinceR | last time checked it was extremely immature | Jul 09 23:31 |
| MinceR | and yes, not having a 64bit version is also a problem | Jul 09 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | PC Linux OS is pretty good now apparantly | Jul 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2004 called, they want their distro back | Jul 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 09 23:31 |
| sebsebseb | according to a Mandriva user who does packaging for PC Linux OS now | Jul 09 23:31 |
| oiaohm | Really I wish 64 and 32 bit versions would just disappear. | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: 2004 what? | Jul 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | mandriva isn't that great either | Jul 09 23:32 |
| oiaohm | and a unified 64 and 32 were released. | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva is good :) | Jul 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: in favor of what? | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: new version recently as well | Jul 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how would that work? | Jul 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva has managed to botch KDE | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: botch? | Jul 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | their old KDE 3 releases were good | Jul 09 23:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] May try the "phone your blog" facility with wordpress this weekend.... http://tinyurl.com/26gw6zs | Jul 09 23:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | the KDE 4 ones have bugs | Jul 09 23:32 |
| MinceR | can i trust a distro that only recently managed to get rid of glaring flaws? | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mandriva seems ok to me with KDE 4, but i'll use Gnome useually :) | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: KDE 4 sucks really | Jul 09 23:32 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 3 :) | Jul 09 23:32 |
| oiaohm | Instead of the 32 bit compadible libs that a lot of 64 bit ones use. Normaly 32 bit packages get used. | Jul 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | they try to use Compiz with KDE 4 | Jul 09 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: altough even with KDE 3 I would useually use Gnome 2 | Jul 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | if you try to use KWIN compositing, it crashes X | Jul 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's a problem :) | Jul 09 23:33 |
| oiaohm | So the 64 disk contains enough 32 bit to bring a basic 32 bit system up. | Jul 09 23:33 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: anyway Mandriva with KDE 4 is quite a lot better than Kubuntu :D | Jul 09 23:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ml2mst I Love both @ender2070 and @_Goblin . Let's be kind to each other, in the name of Free Software #fsf :-* | Jul 09 23:33 | |
| oiaohm | Kubuntu guys know how to Kill KDE very well. | Jul 09 23:33 |
| oiaohm | Mandriva just tweeks there KDE less. | Jul 09 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: By doing what? | Jul 09 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | How do the Kubuntu guys kill it? | Jul 09 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Patching stuff without upstream support. sebsebseb | Jul 09 23:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @graziano Please post and discuss your ideas for the Free Software Foundation! http://2tu.us/2g0f | Jul 09 23:34 | |
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| oiaohm | Universal way Ubuntu makes programs malfunction. | Jul 09 23:34 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: I guess Kubuntu will do it a bit as well, but its mainly Ubuntu, out of the two | Jul 09 23:34 |
| oiaohm | Ubuntu has a long way to go until it comes a redhat. | Jul 09 23:35 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has working with upstream down to a fine art. | Jul 09 23:35 |
| MinceR | it doesn't seem to be going that way | Jul 09 23:35 |
| oiaohm | But it took them years. | Jul 09 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Becomes a Redhat? You mean a really popular and respected distro? | Jul 09 23:35 |
| oiaohm | I mean in package quality. sebsebseb | Jul 09 23:35 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yeah Redhat has good package quality sure, and I guess Fedora as well, but yet it seems quite a lot of the experienced Ubuntu or Debian users, or well both distros, think RPM and so on suck | Jul 09 23:37 |
| MinceR | anaconda sucks | Jul 09 23:38 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Anyway yeah Ubuntu is quite buggy really. | Jul 09 23:38 |
| MinceR | (which is a pity because i liked their approach to partitioning a lot more than debian/ubuntu's) | Jul 09 23:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Why does Windows XP refuse to die? - Also, 8% of respondents in a PC Magazine poll run Linux! http://tinyurl.com/344u865 #mvp #microsoft | Jul 09 23:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: well heres some good news | Jul 09 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: for 10.10 they are planning on improveing the installer quite a lot | Jul 09 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | make it much more user friendly | Jul 09 23:40 |
| MinceR | is that going to affect debian? | Jul 09 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Maybe, but so what I mean, Debian isn't for newbies really. Its for people who know Desktop Linux and quite a lot of people who end up annoyed with Ubuntu, because of how its starting to get much more commercial for example. | Jul 09 23:42 |
| sebsebseb | Anyway Mandriva still has quite a following really, I am hoping it can gain more new users, and keep them, in the future. Some proper Linux distro competition against Ubuntu, is a good thing. | Jul 09 23:43 |
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| sebsebseb | Anyway I got a not so technical guy still on 9.04, and he wants to get away from Ubuntu really, but stay with Linux, so I am thinking Mandriva again. | Jul 09 23:44 |
| sebsebseb | Plus he seems to have liked what he has read about Mandriva and such. | Jul 09 23:44 |
| yuhong | http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/08/yahoo-hires-another-ex-microsoft-exec-bill-shaughnessy/ | Jul 09 23:46 |
| yuhong | Here is a quote from a comment: | Jul 09 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Yahoo Hires Another Ex-Microsoft Exec: Bill Shaughnessy .::. Size~: 45.53 KB | Jul 09 23:46 |
| yuhong | "Another Microsoft guy working for Yahoo. So if you work for Microsoft you go to Yahoo. If you work for Google you go to Facebook. Maybe Yahoo should pickup some Facebook and Google guys to set them in the right direction." | Jul 09 23:46 |
| yuhong | It is not the worst thing about the MS-Yahoo-Carl Icann takeover fiasco though. | Jul 09 23:47 |
| yuhong | I wrote that "IMO the worst thing about the MS-Yahoo-Carl Icann takeover fiasco is not about MS, but how it was based on the idea of "maximizing shareholder value" (stock price) which dates from the 1980s corporate raider era (indeed Carl Icann was one of these corporate raiders), and that because it was flawed. I wrote a lot about it in my Slashdot submissions, for example. " in another comment. | Jul 09 23:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin "Linux preinstalls rocket to three per cent" http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1038132/linux-preloads-rocket-per-cent | Jul 09 23:47 | |
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| yuhong | I personally have laptops and desktops based on i8xx graphics that was affected by the fiasco while UMS was removed from the Intel graphics driver without KMS on these older chips properly working, BTW. | Jul 09 23:48 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: anaconda's approach to partitioning isn't only useful from the newbie perspective, imo | Jul 09 23:49 |
| yuhong | Affected Ubuntu 10.04, for example. | Jul 09 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: isn't only useful? | Jul 09 23:49 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: it's useful for experienced users, too | Jul 09 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Did you mean to put that its not useful for the newbie? That it isn't easy to use? | Jul 09 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: You said it sucks | Jul 09 23:49 |
| MinceR | in general anaconda fails | Jul 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | but their partitioning is pretty nice | Jul 09 23:50 |
| MinceR | it offers more "automatic" options and there's always a checkbox to review and change its decisions | Jul 09 23:50 |
| yuhong | I know, I have used them. | Jul 09 23:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I don't believe Ive been unkind to anyone..... Remember...."I stand alone" or "Solus sto" | Jul 09 23:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Having said that. Marty is a good guy....one of my favorite online friends. | Jul 09 23:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin I know | Jul 09 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | anks I'll keep it in mhttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/microsoft-nz-boss-leaving | Jul 09 23:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I always doubt the stats, when you look at the coverage and amount of comments Linux gets I see much larger than 3% | Jul 09 23:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft NZ boss leaving http://ur1.ca/0m1et Related to the software patents fiasco and backlash? | Jul 09 23:59 | |
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