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| ender2070 | http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/eliberatica-talk/ | Jul 21 00:08 |
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| TechrightsBot | Title: Richard Stallmans Presentation From 2009 eLiberatica (as Ogg) | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.82 KB | Jul 21 00:08 |
| ender2070 | audio broken | Jul 21 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | GNU/Pizza | Jul 21 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 00:13 |
| ender2070 | is it broken for other people? | Jul 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | GNU/Santa | Jul 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | RMS wouldn't be complete without the beard | Jul 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, The entire page is broken in Chrome | Jul 21 00:15 |
| ender2070 | ? | Jul 21 00:17 |
| ender2070 | techrights is broken in chrome? | Jul 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 21 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | What's going on with Mandriva? | Jul 21 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | rumor has it the Free version may be axed | Jul 21 00:19 |
| ender2070 | its possible | Jul 21 00:20 |
| ender2070 | they are being bought | Jul 21 00:20 |
| ender2070 | seems like Fedora is becoming Ubuntu | Jul 21 00:20 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @mind_booster: A format that forces me to have an Internet connection to exercise my rights? No, thanks. re: http://ff.im/nZtz5 | Jul 21 00:20 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: #DECE: "Universal DRM" renamed UltraViolet, beta... - Miguel Caetano - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 11.07 KB | Jul 21 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | there's no support for FGLRX in OpenSuse 11.3 | Jul 21 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | unless you install the old Xorg packages from 11.2 | Jul 21 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 21 00:22 |
| ender2070 | Fubuntu | Jul 21 00:22 |
| ender2070 | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision | Jul 21 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Stable release updates vision - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 17.45 KB | Jul 21 00:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] UK Government Gets More Serious About #GNU #Linux Migration http://techrights.org/2010/07/20/british-public-sector-and-fs/ | Jul 21 00:24 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: UK Government Gets More Serious About GNU/Linux Migration | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.61 KB | Jul 21 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, What would be to gain from axing the Free edition? | Jul 21 00:25 |
| ender2070 | no idea | Jul 21 00:26 |
| ender2070 | Sounds like I'm going to be switching away from Fedora if they pass that | Jul 21 00:26 |
| ender2070 | this would ensure fedora is 6 months behind in everything | Jul 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes being behind is a good thing | Jul 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | invasive feature changes = bugs | Jul 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's not avoidable | Jul 21 00:31 |
| ender2070 | it undermines the reason I use fedora | Jul 21 00:31 |
| ender2070 | I dont want to wait 6 months for the latest KDE | Jul 21 00:31 |
| ender2070 | because by then, another one is out | Jul 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | The KDE project puts out updated KDE repos for Mandriva | Jul 21 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | have you noticed? | Jul 21 00:32 |
| ender2070 | they dont build them with mandriva | Jul 21 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Jul 21 00:32 |
| ender2070 | i dont want generic binaries | Jul 21 00:32 |
| ender2070 | thank you | Jul 21 00:32 |
| ender2070 | I have options | Jul 21 00:33 |
| ender2070 | 1) Rawhide | Jul 21 00:33 |
| ender2070 | 2) LFS | Jul 21 00:33 |
| ender2070 | 3) Fedora 14 + My own KDE build | Jul 21 00:33 |
| ender2070 | Fedora 13 is going to see an official KDE 4.5 update | Jul 21 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | these DVDs smell like cat piss | Jul 21 00:34 |
| ender2070 | it'll probably be the last time they keep up with upstream | Jul 21 00:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @joaomiranda: Melhor argumento contra a revisão constitucional do PSD: 296 artigos | Jul 21 00:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] A minha proposta de constituicao e: traduzam a dos EUA... | Jul 21 00:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Pelo menos sempre ficavamos com o direitos q 'julgamos' ter de tanto filme e serie Norte Americana que por ca passa :) | Jul 21 00:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Comes to New Zealand http://ur1.ca/0s49d News from Novell in New Zealand and some general Novell news too | Jul 21 00:53 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Novell Comes to New Zealand | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.74 KB | Jul 21 00:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @PauloQuerido: A CPR foi revista todos os 4,8 anos desde a sua criação em 1976. Quem consegue afirmar, sem se rir, que está datada? | Jul 21 01:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Emenda a CRP: a AP respeita a Lei e responsaveis prevaricadores serao punidos em tempo util. | Jul 21 01:07 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Emenda a CRP: A Justica conclui-se em tempo util. | Jul 21 01:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Emenda a CRP: remova-se a bacoquice da "proteccao ao bom nome" como loophole contra a liberdade de expressao. | Jul 21 01:13 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/63696 | Jul 21 01:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Open source legal maze: an open trap? | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 88.44 KB | Jul 21 01:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Emenda a CRP: a corrupcao e' repudiada veementemente. | Jul 21 01:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @PauloQuerido: não vejo propriamente obstáculos na C.R.P. ao desenvolvimento do capitalismo cá. Vejo-os no fraco tecido de liderança | Jul 21 01:19 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] zZzZz a conversa esta boa mas a estas horas prejudica a minha produtividade de amanha. | Jul 21 01:22 | |
| ender2070 | http://www.the-source.com/open-source-at-microsoft/ | Jul 21 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Open Source at Microsoft « The-Source.com .::. Size~: 78.94 KB | Jul 21 01:29 |
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| cubezzz3 | another odd job :) | Jul 21 01:52 |
| cubezzz3 | archiving Hank Snow and Johnny Cash | Jul 21 01:52 |
| cubezzz3 | whatever, it's still a Linux job :) | Jul 21 01:52 |
| cubezzz3 | learned a lot about audio last night | Jul 21 01:53 |
| cubezzz3 | working with the old 1/4 inch track machines | Jul 21 01:53 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Jul 21 02:41 | |
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| mpak | hi all | Jul 21 03:22 |
| mpak | a couple of news from Russia | Jul 21 03:22 |
| mpak | Russian project of free software for school is endangered by a "group of experts" claiming that Linux and free software are not suitable for schools | Jul 21 03:23 |
| cubezzz3 | why unsuitable? | Jul 21 03:24 |
| mpak | they published a report where they claim that: | Jul 21 03:24 |
| mpak | - it is too difficult to install and setup | Jul 21 03:24 |
| mpak | - qualified techs needed to support and maintain it | Jul 21 03:25 |
| cubezzz3 | ridiculous | Jul 21 03:25 |
| mpak | - MFD and printers are not well supported | Jul 21 03:25 |
| mpak | - some software doesn't work well | Jul 21 03:25 |
| cubezzz3 | my installs from 2004 are still fine | Jul 21 03:25 |
| cubezzz3 | MFD from HP are fine, others I'm not sure | Jul 21 03:26 |
| mpak | - no educational guides were made by the ministry of education | Jul 21 03:26 |
| cubezzz3 | anyways, I avoid MFD | Jul 21 03:26 |
| mpak | - existing educational guidelines are not aligned with the free software | Jul 21 03:26 |
| mpak | - MS office documents cannot be opened correctly | Jul 21 03:26 |
| cubezzz3 | it is a huge problem mpak | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | so don't use MS file formats :) | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | very simple | Jul 21 03:27 |
| mpak | - teachers need additional training to use new software | Jul 21 03:27 |
| mpak | - etc | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | how about some reasons on the other side? | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | Microsoft -> Giving money to a U.S. company | Jul 21 03:27 |
| mpak | whole report is available here: http://www.infox.ru/infox/expert_judgement.pdf | Jul 21 03:27 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | that can't really be too popular right? :) | Jul 21 03:27 |
| cubezzz3 | OK | Jul 21 03:28 |
| mpak | can you see the link? Bot complains on me | Jul 21 03:28 |
| cubezzz3 | yes | Jul 21 03:28 |
| mpak | the report is in Russian, of course, it is 3mb pdf | Jul 21 03:28 |
| mpak | there is an article with a preliminary analysis of the report | Jul 21 03:28 |
| mpak | http://tiny.cc/v0a7f -- Rus-to-Eng translation of the article | Jul 21 03:29 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Google Translate .::. Size~: 1.01 KB | Jul 21 03:29 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, mpak first of all | Jul 21 03:29 |
| cubezzz3 | consider what the schools did _before_ MIcrosoft came along | Jul 21 03:29 |
| cubezzz3 | obviously they functioned OK right? | Jul 21 03:29 |
| cubezzz3 | so it's definitely wrong to say you have to use MIcrosoft | Jul 21 03:29 |
| mpak | yep. | Jul 21 03:30 |
| mpak | so the article says that the report is largely "anonymous" | Jul 21 03:30 |
| mpak | people didn;t bother to put their names on it | Jul 21 03:30 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah :) | Jul 21 03:30 |
| ender2070 | meaning they didnt want to | Jul 21 03:30 |
| cubezzz3 | they don't want backlash | Jul 21 03:30 |
| cubezzz3 | we didn't even use MIcrosoft when I was at school | Jul 21 03:31 |
| cubezzz3 | we used Commodore PETs | Jul 21 03:31 |
| cubezzz3 | Russia has good programmers | Jul 21 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, the latest Chrome dev build truncates downloads to the first 40 MB :P | Jul 21 03:32 |
| mpak | but the organization that made it works closely with Microsoft on their Unlimited Potential program | Jul 21 03:32 |
| mpak | it* == report | Jul 21 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | Chromium it is then | Jul 21 03:32 |
| cubezzz3 | so there should be a healthy GNU/Linux or FOSS community in Russia I think | Jul 21 03:32 |
| ender2070 | chromium > chrome | Jul 21 03:32 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah so it's basically bullshit :) | Jul 21 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz3: their government doesn't frown on unlicensed sharing of Windows | Jul 21 03:32 |
| ender2070 | think of it like this, chromium is debian, chrome is ubuntu | Jul 21 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | so they probably all have Pirate XP user groups :) | Jul 21 03:32 |
| cubezzz3 | well don't break copy right law | Jul 21 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's Russia | Jul 21 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 03:33 |
| cubezzz3 | well maybe, I don't know | Jul 21 03:33 |
| cubezzz3 | Lots of European Linux people | Jul 21 03:33 |
| ender2070 | you kidding? | Jul 21 03:33 |
| ender2070 | they almost threw a teacher into a gulag | Jul 21 03:33 |
| cubezzz3 | Russia is a big part of Europe | Jul 21 03:33 |
| ender2070 | for pirating microsoft products | Jul 21 03:33 |
| mpak | guys, please see it this way: government in Russia is very corrupted | Jul 21 03:34 |
| cubezzz3 | mpak, no text? Then I can use google translate | Jul 21 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't Russia have that big MP3 site the government won't shut down | Jul 21 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | that's selling unlicensed music | Jul 21 03:34 |
| mpak | they will use any means to get more money | Jul 21 03:34 |
| ender2070 | thats gone | Jul 21 03:34 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, so why give money to Microsoft? Save your money | Jul 21 03:34 |
| cubezzz3 | easy :) | Jul 21 03:34 |
| mpak | hah, it is a usual scheme | Jul 21 03:35 |
| cubezzz3 | Canada isn't any better | Jul 21 03:35 |
| cubezzz3 | we are like Microsoft North here | Jul 21 03:35 |
| mpak | you're government official, you pay money from budget to some company to buy their products, this company pays you back 30% in cash | Jul 21 03:35 |
| mpak | that's how it works in Russia | Jul 21 03:36 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, but that is still 70% to Microsoft | Jul 21 03:36 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah, I get it | Jul 21 03:36 |
| mpak | if Microsoft wins this school project, Microsoft will receive just 70% of money, and 30% will be stolen | Jul 21 03:36 |
| cubezzz3 | we didn't have that problem before | Jul 21 03:37 |
| mpak | 30% is just an example. in real life it could be 10% to company and 90% stolen | Jul 21 03:37 |
| cubezzz3 | yes, that is a problem | Jul 21 03:37 |
| cubezzz3 | many many systems better than Microsoft though | Jul 21 03:37 |
| mpak | if the organization that made the report will convince government to push MS-oriented program | Jul 21 03:37 |
| cubezzz3 | why pick the worst? | Jul 21 03:38 |
| mpak | they will receive more money and wil be able to steal a half | Jul 21 03:38 |
| cubezzz3 | see, that is not a philosophical problem like open source/ closed source | Jul 21 03:39 |
| cubezzz3 | it is a social problem | Jul 21 03:39 |
| cubezzz3 | a people problem | Jul 21 03:39 |
| cubezzz3 | well you can complain to the government I suppose | Jul 21 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft even made it so that Windows 7 ultimate will accept any language pack | Jul 21 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | it's practically gift wrapped for pirates :P | Jul 21 03:40 |
| mpak | i will complain to the government that the government steals money? :) | Jul 21 03:40 |
| cubezzz3 | I complained to CBC, government of Canada and my municipal government too :) | Jul 21 03:40 |
| cubezzz3 | heh | Jul 21 03:40 |
| cubezzz3 | sure complain to the newspapers | Jul 21 03:41 |
| cubezzz3 | complain to the radio stations | Jul 21 03:41 |
| cubezzz3 | I fixed my councilman's computer one time so he had to listen to me | Jul 21 03:41 |
| cubezzz3 | at least they used pdf | Jul 21 03:41 |
| mpak | oh, i need to fix someone's computer then :)) | Jul 21 03:42 |
| mpak | it is not them, it is a newspaper that get the report | Jul 21 03:42 |
| mpak | the report was in paper form | Jul 21 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHiut6hzTg | Jul 21 03:42 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- KEEP YOUR STUPID KIDS OFF THE INTERNET .::. Size~: 105.16 KB | Jul 21 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 Ultimate with Canadian language pack | Jul 21 03:42 |
| *DaemonFC hands one to cubezzz3 | Jul 21 03:42 | |
| DaemonFC | eh? | Jul 21 03:42 |
| *cubezzz3 sits on it | Jul 21 03:43 | |
| *mpak puts a cup of coffee on it | Jul 21 03:43 | |
| cubezzz3 | dude, I'm the last person on the planet to use windows 7 | Jul 21 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz3: You love Windows 7 | Jul 21 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | and you know it | Jul 21 03:43 |
| cubezzz3 | I'll tell you what | Jul 21 03:43 |
| mpak | yeah, hypnotize him | Jul 21 03:43 |
| cubezzz3 | you make it work on my 486 and I'll use it | Jul 21 03:44 |
| cubezzz3 | no cdrom drive :) | Jul 21 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | but it DOES work on a 486 | Jul 21 03:44 |
| *DaemonFC waves his hand in front of cubezzz3 | Jul 21 03:44 | |
| ender2070 | overclock it to 800mhz | Jul 21 03:44 |
| ender2070 | give it 512 mb ram | Jul 21 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | This is the operating system you're looking for | Jul 21 03:44 |
| ender2070 | it'll work then | Jul 21 03:44 |
| cubezzz3 | even windows 2 sucked | Jul 21 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | you WILL buy new hardware | Jul 21 03:44 |
| cubezzz3 | and every version after that | Jul 21 03:44 |
| cubezzz3 | jedi tricks don't work on me, only money! | Jul 21 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | you HAVE money | Jul 21 03:45 |
| ender2070 | what if you received a free legit copy? | Jul 21 03:45 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah but I don't spend it on Microsoft products | Jul 21 03:45 |
| mpak | http://tiny.cc/j8uwb | Jul 21 03:45 |
| *DaemonFC dumps out his monopoly box set and hands the money to cubezzz3 | Jul 21 03:45 | |
| DaemonFC | you guys use that stuff up there, right? | Jul 21 03:45 |
| mpak | sorry about the previous link | Jul 21 03:46 |
| cubezzz3 | lol | Jul 21 03:46 |
| mpak | it was http://tinyurl.com/2arjpgf | Jul 21 03:46 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: korobkin: Forefront Security for what it is worth .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Jul 21 03:47 |
| *DaemonFC wonders if the Canadian serial killers are polite | Jul 21 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC | shame this isn't 1990, I could get a Canadian hitman for half price | Jul 21 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | have him whack the neighbors | Jul 21 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | with a hockey stick | Jul 21 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe let his hockey hair devour them whole | Jul 21 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | bones and all | Jul 21 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 03:47 |
| mpak | ok, have a good day guys | Jul 21 03:48 |
| *mpak has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jul 21 03:48 | |
| ender2070 | he might just give them back back covered with maple syrup | Jul 21 03:48 |
| ender2070 | back bacon* | Jul 21 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | Jul 21 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | the long torturous death by bowel impaction | Jul 21 03:49 |
| ender2070 | a deliciously slow and agonizing death (by increased risk of heart attack at an older age) | Jul 21 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | I like your style | Jul 21 03:49 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 21 03:55 |
| ender2070 | Who is interested in the mono free PwnageOS, coming soon? | Jul 21 03:59 |
| ender2070 | heh, my friend said I should call it "AndrOS" | Jul 21 04:02 |
| ender2070 | after the bad guy in starfox.... | Jul 21 04:03 |
| *Diablo-D3 facepalms | Jul 21 04:07 | |
| ender2070 | AndrOS is funny | Jul 21 04:07 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 04:08 |
| ender2070 | PwnageOS 2010 - Manic Miguel | Jul 21 04:08 |
| ender2070 | an ubuntu style naming scheme but with mono boosters | Jul 21 04:11 |
| ender2070 | not animals | Jul 21 04:12 |
| *DaemonFC forks and adds Mono to it | Jul 21 04:12 | |
| DaemonFC | PwnageOS 2010 Sharp Edition | Jul 21 04:12 |
| ender2070 | trademark | Jul 21 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | POS Sharp Edition 2010 | Jul 21 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's a POS with or without Mono | Jul 21 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 04:14 |
| ender2070 | FGLXR won't work, thats for sure :P | Jul 21 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ | Jul 21 04:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: WebAIM: Blog - History of the browser user-agent string .::. Size~: 50.6 KB | Jul 21 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | they should get Andres Cantor to announce the 10 worst Microsoft products of all time | Jul 21 04:28 |
| ender2070 | oh look | Jul 21 04:29 |
| ender2070 | netscape was the cause of bad web development | Jul 21 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's Windows 98 in the lead followed closely by Windows Me, and here comes Windows Vista! This is tense, very tense, Windows Vista catching up fast, taking the lead, and GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! | Jul 21 04:29 |
| ender2070 | hey | Jul 21 04:29 |
| ender2070 | vista isn't broken | Jul 21 04:30 |
| ender2070 | you guys all lie | Jul 21 04:30 |
| ender2070 | vista and win7 are the best thing to happen to computing in a long time | Jul 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | I want one of those magic Mojave computers | Jul 21 04:30 |
| ender2070 | since win32 api | Jul 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | since Windows Foundation Class | Jul 21 04:30 |
| ender2070 | someone did a KDE mojave experiment | Jul 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | ADO.NET and Informs even | Jul 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | *Winforms | Jul 21 04:31 |
| ender2070 | people thought it was win7 | Jul 21 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | What did they think GNOME was? :) | Jul 21 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | the bastard child of Windows 95 and OS X? | Jul 21 04:31 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 04:31 |
| ender2070 | likely | Jul 21 04:31 |
| ender2070 | spacial is the future! | Jul 21 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh I jest, GNOME isn't THAT bad | Jul 21 04:32 |
| ender2070 | it is | Jul 21 04:32 |
| ender2070 | gconf-editor | Jul 21 04:33 |
| ender2070 | reminds me of regedit | Jul 21 04:33 |
| ender2070 | but slightly friendlier | Jul 21 04:33 |
| ender2070 | it won't cause baldness where you're only left with hair on the sides | Jul 21 04:34 |
| ender2070 | but you still might tear out your eyes | Jul 21 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | is that what happened to Ballmer? | Jul 21 04:35 |
| *DaemonFC had wondered | Jul 21 04:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Male Pattern Ballmerness | Jul 21 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_point | Jul 21 04:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Feynman point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 27.92 KB | Jul 21 04:41 |
| ender2070 | the user agent string thing is funny | Jul 21 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: From what I can gather, humans are supposed to become vegetarians that live in garbage mounds in the middle of the desert | Jul 21 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | and ride bicycles made out of compost | Jul 21 05:10 |
| ender2070 | yes? | Jul 21 05:10 |
| ender2070 | we gotta save the planet | Jul 21 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | but it's rich people | Jul 21 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | trying to brainwash people | Jul 21 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | that way there's even more left for them | Jul 21 05:12 |
| ender2070 | +1 | Jul 21 05:16 |
| ender2070 | we're the enemy | Jul 21 05:19 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/63876 | Jul 21 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox lets hackers grab your passwords | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 86.1 KB | Jul 21 05:21 |
| ender2070 | hey diablo-d3 | Jul 21 05:21 |
| ender2070 | allegedly there is a c# to java conversion tool | Jul 21 05:22 |
| ender2070 | banshee java? ;) | Jul 21 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | "Interestingly, Microsoft promises that IE 8 is less susceptible to XSS than earlier versions of IE or other browsers. But, ironically, it was a demo at Black Hat EU that demonstrated how to use IE 8's XSS filter to actually implement an XSS attack that would have been difficult to pull off without it." | Jul 21 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 21 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, networkworld seems like a Microsoft-supported site | Jul 21 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Mozilla is now referring to vaporware | Jul 21 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | very Microsoft-ish of them | Jul 21 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | "We're going to do a baseline JIT for Firefox 4. It's not done yet, and it hasn't landed in any tree yet, so nobody's tested it. It's gonna give similar performance characteristics to Chrome. But we're also gonna do tracing on top of that. What we discovered, is that for a lot of applications, especially when you want to do anything that's actually CPU intensive, we smoke everybody. It's not even fair." | Jul 21 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | OK, so it's not public yet, nobody has used it, the product they have is the suck | Jul 21 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | and you still have months to forget how great he said it will be | Jul 21 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft | Jul 21 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | MojaveFox | Jul 21 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jul 21 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's too kind | Jul 21 05:45 |
| ender2070 | you know what | Jul 21 06:04 |
| ender2070 | if google stopped funding mozilla it would run out of money within a year | Jul 21 06:04 |
| ender2070 | unless they fired people | Jul 21 06:05 |
| ender2070 | 85% of their revenue is Google | Jul 21 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | well, they're like 60% of Mozilla's funding | Jul 21 06:05 |
| ender2070 | in 2006 it was 85% | Jul 21 06:06 |
| ender2070 | "Google pays Mozilla a substantial sum - in 2006 the total amounted to around $57 million, or 85% of the company’s total revenue." | Jul 21 06:06 |
| ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation | Jul 21 06:06 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Mozilla Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 59.62 KB | Jul 21 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | it would hurt them a lot | Jul 21 06:06 |
| ender2070 | unless ms filled that in for them | Jul 21 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | but the fact that they need so much money shows that they're not a rea lFOSS project | Jul 21 06:06 |
| ender2070 | $57 million in 2006 | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | from Google | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | Redhat makes a ton of money too | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | but they actually sell something | Jul 21 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, there are some simple rendering engines that were designed by one person in spare time that can do basic HTML and style sheets | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | or | Jul 21 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get how it takes a billion dollars and all you end up with is Firefox? | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | rekonq/arora/anythingwebkit | Jul 21 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | I mean holy shit | Jul 21 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Jul 21 06:07 |
| ender2070 | rekonq is one guy, and webkit does most of his work | Jul 21 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | a billion dollars and 12 years should not leave you with Firefox | Jul 21 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sorry | Jul 21 06:08 |
| ender2070 | Firefox was a lot better when it was smaller than Mozilla Suite | Jul 21 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | it never was much smaller | Jul 21 06:09 |
| ender2070 | when it was called Pheonix and really was a stripped down version of Mozilla | Jul 21 06:09 |
| ender2070 | it was fast back then | Jul 21 06:09 |
| ender2070 | now the Mozilla suite (SeaMonkey) is based on Firefox | Jul 21 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Phoenix 0.1 was 8.3 MB on Windows | Jul 21 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | and Mozilla suite was like 11 megs | Jul 21 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | for the setup package anyway | Jul 21 06:10 |
| ender2070 | it didnt use 200mb of ram | Jul 21 06:10 |
| ender2070 | it also loaded very quickly | Jul 21 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | nothing based on Mozilla has been a speed demon | Jul 21 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | or resource efficient | Jul 21 06:10 |
| ender2070 | it was certainly faster than IE 6 | Jul 21 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | so was IE 7 | Jul 21 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 06:11 |
| ender2070 | nah | Jul 21 06:11 |
| ender2070 | IE7 is bloated too | Jul 21 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | IE might be the only example of more money for a worse product | Jul 21 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | than Firefox | Jul 21 06:11 |
| ender2070 | I used firefox only because it was open source and had the best compatibility | Jul 21 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome isn't doing too bad with broken websites | Jul 21 06:12 |
| ender2070 | now its shit compared to others | Jul 21 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | my bank singles out Opera | Jul 21 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | and won't let you log in | Jul 21 06:13 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | even though it all works if you spoof the useragent | Jul 21 06:13 |
| ender2070 | I don't single out any browser | Jul 21 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | if you log in with Chrome, the login screen says "Your satisfaction is guaranteed if you use IE or Firefox" | Jul 21 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 06:14 |
| ender2070 | No user-agent tricks | Jul 21 06:14 |
| ender2070 | I've used html5 controls I know don't work in IE, but I don't block them from visiting | Jul 21 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | IE 9 | Jul 21 06:15 |
| ender2070 | I use an alt tag telling them their browser sucks | Jul 21 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | errr Mozilla 5.0 | Jul 21 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Compatible; IE 9 | Jul 21 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 06:15 |
| ender2070 | IE 9 with Chrome Frame | Jul 21 06:15 |
| ender2070 | perhaps | Jul 21 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | the strap-on rendering engine that works? | Jul 21 06:16 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jul 21 06:16 |
| ender2070 | makes IE not suck | Jul 21 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | well, it breaks a lot of IE stuff | Jul 21 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | you're best off jsut using Chrome | Jul 21 06:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] July issue of Haking "Hardcore It Security Magazine" available. Grab your gratis copy (PDF) in German: http://ur1.ca/0sl81 | Jul 21 06:16 | |
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| ender2070 | ahhh | Jul 21 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome Frame doesn't work with InPrivate | Jul 21 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't respect your security zone settings | Jul 21 06:17 |
| ender2070 | whats InPrivate | Jul 21 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | and it does add all security flaws in Chrome | Jul 21 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | they're showing them off on this stupid renewable energy show | Jul 21 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | IE's porn mode | Jul 21 06:18 |
| ender2070 | yeah you are better off just using chrome | Jul 21 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Netscape 8 | Jul 21 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | is what Chrome Frame makes me think of | Jul 21 06:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] OpenForum Europe: hypocrites and fake representatives of open source lobby the EU over #openstandards http://bit.ly/aFnoeu #ofe | Jul 21 06:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://web.archive.org/web/20070928134119/http://blakeross.com/index.php?p=72 | Jul 21 06:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Blake Ross bitching about how Netscape 8 arbitrarily switched between the Firefox engine and IE's | Jul 21 06:22 |
| ender2070 | an advertisement for mono | Jul 21 06:22 |
| ender2070 | on that firefox article about the passwords | Jul 21 06:23 |
| ender2070 | "Alternatively, take the passwords out of the browser altogether and use an open source password manager like KeePass (pictured below, click to enlarge image.) However, KeePass is geared toward Windows users, working natively on just about every Windows operating system out there. But it requires Wine for the free "Classic edition" or "Mono" for the commercial edition. Linux users needing a cross platform password | Jul 21 06:23 |
| ender2070 | manager will likely want the Linux port, known as KeePassX. This one supports MacOS, too." | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | I started looking around that site | Jul 21 06:23 |
| ender2070 | open source password manager, "mono" for the commercial edition | Jul 21 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | it's an anti-open source hate site | Jul 21 06:23 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jul 21 06:23 |
| ender2070 | I linked an article from there earlier attacking the GPL as viral | Jul 21 06:24 |
| ender2070 | infecting your code when you steal the work of others | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | "They don't support Vista Phone 7, woe are they!" | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Like that's Mozilla's biggest problem | Jul 21 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | a phone that doesn't exist that replaces a predecessor that has like 10% of the smartphone market | Jul 21 06:25 |
| ender2070 | microsoft is insane too | Jul 21 06:26 |
| ender2070 | removing backwards compatibility and killing off freeware | Jul 21 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | they're showering cash bribes on crapware developers | Jul 21 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | just so they have a lot of fluff apps for Vista Phone 7 | Jul 21 06:26 |
| ender2070 | ms is going to be even more strict in regards to PG content | Jul 21 06:27 |
| ender2070 | requiring software stores to install apps is package management gone wrong | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | trialware on your new phones | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's starting to be like unboxing an OEM PC | Jul 21 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | full of crapware | Jul 21 06:28 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 06:29 |
| ender2070 | thats what ubuntu seems to be doing too | Jul 21 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T tried to lock all the crapware | Jul 21 06:29 |
| ender2070 | install ubuntu and start removing the bullshit crapware | Jul 21 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | so I couldn't delete it | Jul 21 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | they marked them as vital system files | Jul 21 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | then they lost their master key | Jul 21 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 06:29 |
| ender2070 | hahaha | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | and instructions on how to purge their crap leaked out | Jul 21 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | I put up instructions on how to make their GPS trial app think it's paid for | Jul 21 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Obama stopped over in Michigan the other day | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | to dump millions of stimulus dollars on a Korean company | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | and declare the Recovery a success | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | as Michigan continues losing about 10,000 net jobs a month | Jul 21 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 06:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65O5TA20100721 | Jul 21 06:38 |
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| DaemonFC | BP CEO says "So long and thanks for the 5 million dead fish!" | Jul 21 06:38 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 21 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | At least Dow Chemical has someone to look up to now | Jul 21 06:39 |
| ender2070 | so does Enron | Jul 21 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | Enron? | Jul 21 06:41 |
| ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal | Jul 21 06:41 |
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| DaemonFC | yes I know | Jul 21 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't kill anyone that didn't deserve to die | Jul 21 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | managers hanging themselves by their neckties don't count | Jul 21 06:43 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/20/mississippi.lesbian.settlement/?hpt=T2 | Jul 21 06:49 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.mndaily.com/2010/07/21/apple-offers-free-classes-iphone-4-problems | Jul 21 07:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] “revolutionary” social news iPad app: Flipboard - http://bit.ly/c9efku interesting fusion of social nws, news and tablet #publishing | Jul 21 07:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @joewilcox Apple's record quarter could top Microsoft: http://tinyurl.com/24j47yd | Jul 21 07:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] FOSS jobs in India Jul 21 2010 http://post.ly/o5gt | Jul 21 07:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Nokia’s Choice Is Dead Obvious: Go Android - http://bit.ly/9WfNL8 makes sense #nokia #android | Jul 21 07:39 | |
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| MinceR | actually it doesn't | Jul 21 07:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Massachusetts May Be The First To Get A Right To Repair Law - http://bit.ly/aYdIJr another reason we need free sw - for #cars #dmca | Jul 21 07:44 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Massachusetts May Be The First To Get A Right To Repair Law | Techdirt .::. Size~: 28.27 KB | Jul 21 07:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Wikileaks' estranged co-founder becomes a critic - http://bit.ly/cYwUmI interesting perspective from Cryptome's founder #wikileaks | Jul 21 07:50 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Wikileaks' estranged co-founder becomes a critic (Q&A) | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 100.83 KB | Jul 21 07:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Visual Effects For Project London Made With Blender - http://bit.ly/9juPlM "vivid, intense, and marrow-vibrating visual effects" #blender | Jul 21 07:55 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Visual Effects For Project London Made With Blender! | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 38.38 KB | Jul 21 07:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The konomark: will it sink or swim? - http://bit.ly/cAMN6g nice logo, but can't we just stick to cc licences? #licensing #konomark | Jul 21 08:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Marching Through The Gobi Desert: Endurance - http://bit.ly/dAnptv need something to do for the weekend? #gobi | Jul 21 08:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Corbis fraud is now a fact (Gates is the sole owner of Corbis); Karetnikov from Microsoft is allegedly a Russian spy http://ur1.ca/0sr30 | Jul 21 08:06 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: More Criminal Activity in Bill Gates Past (Corbis Fraud), Russian Spies at Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.78 KB | Jul 21 08:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] If you're beating a "petitioner," make sure it's not an official's wife - http://bit.ly/9aqckb amazing story of power and privilege in China | Jul 21 08:07 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: If you're beating a "petitioner," make sure it's not an official's wife - Shanghaiist .::. Size~: 46.2 KB | Jul 21 08:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] let's hope we can make the #StupidScientology hashtag trend today... | Jul 21 08:11 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] A blast from the past (2003) - Computers are too easy to use http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=815 | Jul 21 08:30 | |
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| ender2070 | I found some old articles I wrote | Jul 21 08:49 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] Another blast from the past (Circa 2008) - The Nightmare of IT in Retail http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=821 | Jul 21 08:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Help Extend the Ban on Software Patents in New Zealand to Australia http://ur1.ca/0su46 #swpats #patents | Jul 21 09:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Winamp Brainchild: “You Have People Patenting Things that Are Essentially Math” http://ur1.ca/0suaa Justin Frankel on #swpats | Jul 21 09:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] China and the Year of the GNU/Linux Desktop - http://bit.ly/9Y30Gn why Baidu could transform things #china #mobiles #baidu #google | Jul 21 09:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @bruces: *I put the words "social media" in a blog post, and it was instantly tweeted by a host of twitter spambots. They're real social | Jul 21 09:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open letter to abolish software patents in Australia - http://bit.ly/d42Us6 only for sw people? (via @schestowitz) #swpats #au | Jul 21 09:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] One Information Policy for Freedom of Information and Re-use - http://bit.ly/avuNNv interesting: the relationship between access and re-use | Jul 21 09:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Some progress on the Local Spending/Spikes Cavell issue - http://bit.ly/9uuvga more on issues around making money from #opendata | Jul 21 09:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Apple Patents That Retard GNU/Linux/X Font Rendering Finally Expire, Microsoft Still a Barrier http://ur1.ca/0svhn #FreeType #swpats | Jul 21 10:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: Corbis fraud now a fact (Gates is the sole owner of Corbis); Karetnikov (MS) is allegedly a Russian spy http://ur1.ca/0sr30 | Jul 21 10:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fraunhofer Promotes Software Patents, Even in Europe (and Van Quickenborne Facilitates It) http://ur1.ca/0sw5n #swpats | Jul 21 10:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Jonathan Jones Acknowledges He is in Monsanto’s Pocket http://ur1.ca/0swac #gmo #monsanto #patents #bbc #seeds | Jul 21 10:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: RPX Grows, Netflix Issues a Patent Challenge, More on In Re #Bilski http://ur1.ca/0sx4g #swpats | Jul 21 11:19 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] South African Government Surrenders to #Microsoft Again http://ur1.ca/0sxh0 Microsoft captures a laptops flag in South Africa #gnu #linux | Jul 21 11:36 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Post on Prof. Jones updated, adding information found via @glynmoody http://ur1.ca/0swac #monsanto #gmo HT @gmwatch | Jul 21 11:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Small rants on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard which I should turn into a blog post. | Jul 21 11:44 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:15] <TechrightsBot> Title: Virus targets Siemens industrial control systems| Technology| Reuters .::. Size~: 28.83 KB | Jul 21 11:46 |
| schestowitz | [16:16] <MinceR> lol siemens | Jul 21 11:46 |
| schestowitz | Philips also uses Windows in scanners | Jul 21 11:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ExxonMobil gave $1.5M to climate disinformation groups last year... http://bit.ly/a2BRAj > Will Bill Gates stop funding them? | Jul 21 11:52 | |
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| MinceR | siemens also keeps making crap products | Jul 21 12:03 |
| MinceR | especially their trams | Jul 21 12:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ... - http://bit.ly/b97ZoQ amazing research report (in German) from Deutsche Bank that (almost) says #copyright is doomed | Jul 21 12:04 | |
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| *amarsh04 should check what kind of trams Adelaide has | Jul 21 12:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @BreakingNews: FDA panel recommends withdrawal of approval for Avastin to treat breast cancer after disappointing studies - AP | Jul 21 12:10 | |
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| TheMadHatter | Morning. | Jul 21 12:12 |
| TheMadHatter | Don't know if you saw this Roy, Paul Allen is imitating Bill Gates: | Jul 21 12:14 |
| TheMadHatter | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thebusinessofgiving/2012363890_paul_allen_signs_billionaire_p.html | Jul 21 12:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra Viva as PayWalls. NOT! ♺ @agranado http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jul/20/times-paywall-readership | Jul 21 12:26 | |
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| schestowitz | [23:11] <MinceR> perhaps King Viktor the First got traumatized by losing power and not having it for 8 years | Jul 21 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Is that the KDE version of the king? | Jul 21 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Viktor - Sounds like a Qt-based raster rendering proggy | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | [23:23] <MinceR> In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, the party finds you! | Jul 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz | [23:23] <MinceR> In Soviet Russia, browser keeps tabs on YOU!! | Jul 21 12:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I have changed my Twitter Profile Introduction - http://bit.ly/dqDGnf Now it is more appropriate with my 24 Hr. http://bit.ly/dqDGnf | Jul 21 12:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Holy cow (Flash warning) http://u.nu/4mdkd via @diablod3 | Jul 21 12:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @lucrocha: sad #fail, site of Rodrigo Leao unavailable in systems without #Silverlight | Jul 21 12:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @carlopiana: Answer en masse to the questionnaire http://ur1.ca/0syrg or it'll be slanted twrds royalty-bearing FRAND standard policy. | Jul 21 12:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Have you heard patent in Math ? Learn Software programming and join Evil Companies They teach you to become "Resistant of Technology" #swpat | Jul 21 12:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] ZOMG #wikipedia TERRORIST!!1!1!!!! http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/wikipediadown/message/2 | Jul 21 12:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Sitting in the yard with the puppies, typing on my laptop. Gotta love summer! | Jul 21 12:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] tO South Africa : Unite and Win. Remove Microsoft from your land - http://techrights.org/2010/07/21/dumping-vs-gnu-linux-in-sa/ #evil #gov | Jul 21 13:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Florian is attacking all of Microsoft's competitors again. http://ur1.ca/0szfu #turnstiles | Jul 21 13:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Allegation: Organisation Close to #Microsoft ‘Unlimited Potential’ (EDGI) Helps Derail #GNU #Linux in Russian Schools http://ur1.ca/0szge | Jul 21 13:18 | |
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| schestowitz | [07:00] <TechrightsBot> Title: Apple offers free classes for iPhone 4 problems | mndaily.com - Serving the University of Minnesota Community Since 1900 .::. Size~: 38.89 KB | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz | [07:02] <MinceR> article title fail | Jul 21 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Oh, no... not Apple in classroom too. Steve & Steve Co.? | Jul 21 13:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody re #StupidScientology aren't most religious dogmas just the same? Why do the big ones get a break? | Jul 21 13:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz yes, that's a fair point; I think it's probably easier to start off with the little ones for pragmatic reasons...& then move on | Jul 21 13:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Study on the Interplay between Standards and Intellectual Property Rights (IPRs) - http://bit.ly/cDvf5q important for cos. to express views | Jul 21 13:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Symbian DevCo seeks Advisory Council members - http://bit.ly/cykwiW form an orderly queue #symbian #opensource | Jul 21 13:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard so you reckon Solaris is AWOL? | Jul 21 13:54 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: /trams/crams/ | Jul 21 13:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @ruiseabra ♺ @lucrocha: site of Rodrigo Leao unavailable in systems without #Silverlight > Silverlight is where sites/data come to die | Jul 21 13:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] US Senate Passes 'Libel Tourism' Bill - http://bit.ly/ac6iQJ of course, this means that other countries can do same against US laws #libel | Jul 21 14:01 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Volcano [Flickr] http://goo.gl/fb/xZUMp | Jul 21 14:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody I have to disagree on that. And I think Dawkins does it effectively enough, depsite the backlash | Jul 21 14:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody Ann Druyan and her late husband are more effective, but they do the same (just different ratio between science/bashing) | Jul 21 14:08 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: actually it's the old news of crApple finally caving in and giving away free cases for their paperweights, but the article title gets it wrong | Jul 21 14:14 |
| MinceR | in the article they get it right | Jul 21 14:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071505095.html | Jul 21 14:14 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, I have another post on Apple ready | Jul 21 14:14 |
| schestowitz | But the fangirls won't mind the backlash | Jul 21 14:14 |
| schestowitz | They don't read the news | Jul 21 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I saw many girls with hypePods in the Tube | Jul 21 14:15 |
| schestowitz | They read Metro and other 'free' junk with celebs and nonsense | Jul 21 14:15 |
| MinceR | that's fine, as long as they keep their traps shut about how great their crApple crap is | Jul 21 14:15 |
| schestowitz | hypePhone is just a fashion statement to them. They all have a cover for it that's purple or pink | Jul 21 14:15 |
| schestowitz | The 3 I saw anyway | Jul 21 14:15 |
| MinceR | so they've found a way to make it look uglier? | Jul 21 14:16 |
| MinceR | though at least the hypePhone 4 looks less like a bar of soap | Jul 21 14:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you listen to the audio about hypePhone, from Linux Outlaws? | Jul 21 14:16 |
| MinceR | nope | Jul 21 14:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, it was ugly | Jul 21 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Hold on.. | Jul 21 14:16 |
| schestowitz | That lousy phone is advertised in every corner here... and there's a new Apple Churc..shop in Manchester | Jul 21 14:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/unix-and-proprietary/ | Jul 21 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Skip to last 5 minutes, it's hilarious! | Jul 21 14:18 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Need something along the lines of puppet or cfengine to manage Linux/Solaris. What do you use? What sucks? Tell me all! | Jul 21 14:18 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GS got just a gentle slap on the wrist, no exec sent to prison. http://ur1.ca/0t0e5 #bank #fraud #goldmansachs | Jul 21 14:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz we just bought a new x86 server to run java on. solaris £300, linux £0. it's dead, jim. | Jul 21 14:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz that said, @webmink's new co is looking at opensolaris. it has users, but it sorely needs non-Sun devs. | Jul 21 14:21 | |
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| MinceR | i will | Jul 21 14:25 |
| schestowitz | Join them? | Jul 21 14:25 |
| MinceR | no, i'll listen to that audio | Jul 21 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Slowaris | Jul 21 14:26 |
| MinceR | i can't be bothered to care about slowlaris currently | Jul 21 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Neither can Oracle | Jul 21 14:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 14:27 |
| oiaohm | solaris did at one time have the tech advantage. | Jul 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | http://barackobama666com.blogspot.com is titsup | Jul 21 14:28 |
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| oiaohm | Some areas it still does. | Jul 21 14:28 |
| oiaohm | But those are reducing over time. | Jul 21 14:28 |
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| MinceR | as if "tech advantage" was singular | Jul 21 14:28 |
| MinceR | usually both products have an advantage over the other in something | Jul 21 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66C30S20100713 | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-12/goldman-sachs-citigroup-sued-over-subprime-loans.html | Jul 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I was in Canary Wharf last week | Jul 21 14:32 |
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| schestowitz | Took a photo with that stupid Citi building. That bankster town is a ghost town at night | Jul 21 14:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] LOL, @Webwereld is weer reacties aan het verwijderen. De redactie is nog kinderachtiger dan de reaguurders. Dit slaat echt alles :-D | Jul 21 14:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Could You Adopt a Hacking Business Model? - http://bit.ly/9zTk0B beyond Open Source business models #business #management | Jul 21 14:37 | |
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| schestowitz | “standards are increasingly being viewed as competitive weapons rather than as technological stabilizers. Companies use standards as a way to inhibit their competition from developing advantageous technology. As soon as technical activity is observed by political/economic forces, their interest rises dramatically because they see a possible threat that must be countered before it gains strength.” | Jul 21 14:48 |
| schestowitz | jono: still in the EU? | Jul 21 14:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @newsbrooke I'll believe this when I see it. <<ICO to get tough with authorities failing to abide by FOI http://bit.ly/crg6aj>>me too | Jul 21 14:48 | |
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| jono | schestowitz yup | Jul 21 14:49 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Government Plans Act Of Parliament To Evict Brian Haw - http://bit.ly/cXx02H yeah, that sounds democratic #uk | Jul 21 14:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @RobertsWeb: @nightshiftc I've learned more from @jonobacon and The Art of Community in 11 weeks, than I have in 6 years of community. | Jul 21 15:06 | |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Jul 21 15:17 | |
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| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Jul 21 15:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Unbounded journalism: Ushahidi as news platform - http://bit.ly/aYs36n sounds a good idea #ushahidi #journalism | Jul 21 15:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Censorship: Labor's hidden policy | ABC http://bit.ly/b0vIdb #nocleanfeed | Jul 21 15:26 | |
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| schestowitz | "I consider most beliefs similar - it's the litigious, sinister nature of the Scientology organisation that I take issue with." http://twitter.com/Suitov/status/19072443794 | Jul 21 15:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Twitter / Herm Baskerville: @schestowitz I consider mo ... .::. Size~: 11.33 KB | Jul 21 15:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Had lunch with an FBI agent and a Grateful Dead lyricist. | Jul 21 15:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am doing an interview with JoomStew about community in 10 mins - see http://is.gd/dAMZR for details #community | Jul 21 15:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] The FBI agent and the Grateful Dead lyricists were two different people, for the record. | Jul 21 15:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Admins Of Oldest BitTorrent Site Face Criminal Charges - http://bit.ly/c8xdlO "appears that FACT has instructed the authorities..." what??? | Jul 21 15:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Check this video out -- The Month of Ramadan is here! http://youtu.be/90kK2hNK7hE | Jul 21 16:24 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @mgeist RT @StopActaNow: Netherlands demand openness in ACTA http://bit.ly/baoUyY >>go plucky Dutch people #acta #nl | Jul 21 16:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The Web Means the End of Forgetting - http://nyti.ms/dDa2XD might it make us more resilient and tolerant? (OK, maybe too much to ask...) | Jul 21 16:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Great photos from last night's reading with China Mieville and me: http://tinyurl.com/38dxn6t | Jul 21 16:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #GNU #Linux Desktop Merits Noted, #Canonical Spreads Proprietary #IBM Software http://ur1.ca/0t28y | Jul 21 17:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #Linux News (SSHFS, Drivers), Applications, Instructionals, #Unigine Game, and Distributions http://ur1.ca/0t2em | Jul 21 17:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #Android Takes the Stage at the Expense of Other Platforms http://ur1.ca/0t2gl Android grows not just in phones anymore | Jul 21 17:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Concluding the History of Copyright - http://bit.ly/d1yoHe "time someone noticed the nails keeping #copyright upright upon its perch" | Jul 21 17:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] China's search for greener values - http://bit.ly/arbXzI wonderfully sane interview; interesting points about philosophy #china #environment | Jul 21 17:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Grouping of recent news on Free software, including the hotly-debated #WordPress controversy http://ur1.ca/0t2na | Jul 21 17:37 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Links: Free Software/Open Source Miscellany, Open Data, HTML5 Tidbits, and WordPress Suing | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.16 KB | Jul 21 17:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] People Aren't Buying Blank CDs Any More, So Collection Agency Demands Media Levy Expanded To Mobile Phones - http://bit.ly/ddsWBO just why? | Jul 21 17:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OSI Finds Its Spine, ‘Open’ Core Called Out http://ur1.ca/0t2q2 With people like Simon Phipps in its house, the OSI regains credibility | Jul 21 17:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Man! Phonetics is awesome! :-) | Jul 21 18:15 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html | Jul 21 18:30 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] I've used Firefox as default from 0.2(Pheonix) - 3.6, and I'm aware of the issues and what i'm missing by using a faster more secure browser | Jul 21 18:30 | |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jul 21 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Firefox ftw | Jul 21 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | ewww | Jul 21 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Bloatzilla | Jul 21 18:32 |
| ender2070 | omg, thats an awesome name | Jul 21 18:32 |
| ender2070 | Bloatzilla | Jul 21 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | going from Mozilla Suite to Firefox didn't cut out any of the resource use | Jul 21 18:33 |
| schestowitz | ManPigBear's new name | Jul 21 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | it just killed off a bunch of features that *some* people might have used | Jul 21 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | you notice that actual memory use between Seamonkey and Firefox is roughly the same | Jul 21 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey uses a few more MB of hard disk space, but people have terabytes of that now | Jul 21 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | saving 4-5 MB would have impressed me in 1994 | Jul 21 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 18:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- Spank Your Monkey http://youtu.be/3I7TKW_QQbA?a | Jul 21 18:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox is a bloated pile of crap masquerading as this slim browser that's been cut to the bone apart from having an add-ons platform that allows the browser to be molested in any way you can think of by anything that happens to be installed, by you or "others" | Jul 21 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | at least other browsers manage to load pages faster if they want to chow down on your system resources | Jul 21 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | and none of them are as bad about that as Firefox | Jul 21 18:37 |
| ender2070 | [13:27] <DaemonFC> going from Mozilla Suite to Firefox didn't cut out any of the resource use | Jul 21 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't streamline shit | Jul 21 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | they cut out a few XPIs | Jul 21 18:37 |
| ender2070 | sorry that is wrong, it was really fast pre 1.0 | Jul 21 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Jul 21 18:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links added to a this nice site which documents Jonathan Jones' attacks on #GMO critics/sceptics http://ur1.ca/0swac #monsanto | Jul 21 18:38 | |
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| ender2070 | each release keeps getting slower i've noticed but I stuck with it because it was the only option | Jul 21 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | You can only install XPIs from Mozilla Add-Ons | Jul 21 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | that way you have your malware all in one convenient place | Jul 21 18:40 |
| MinceR | you could probably use Firesomething to make Firefox call itself "Bloatzilla" if you wanted... | Jul 21 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | don't worry, as soon as you upload it, you probably have 6 months minimum before anyone notices | Jul 21 18:40 |
| ender2070 | btw, i haven't really followed BP too much | Jul 21 18:40 |
| ender2070 | is BP = British Petrolium ? | Jul 21 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | and then Mozilla will try to quietly disappear it | Jul 21 18:40 |
| *schestowitz writes about BP ATM | Jul 21 18:40 | |
| MinceR | British Petrol, afaik | Jul 21 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Big Polluter | Jul 21 18:41 |
| MinceR | i see DaemonFC has extension envy | Jul 21 18:41 |
| MinceR | or add-on envy | Jul 21 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | then BP is also their CEO | Jul 21 18:41 |
| *schestowitz has 30 extensions | Jul 21 18:41 | |
| ender2070 | I wonder if its the same company that wanted the oil in iran which causes the false flag attacks there | Jul 21 18:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #Optimus insiste no nao desbloqueio. Alega data da compra mas a revista deles nao tem esse limite inicial #pub enganosa | Jul 21 18:41 | |
| DaemonFC | you know, that British Putz they keep putting on the news | Jul 21 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC needs a 3-inch extension | Jul 21 18:41 |
| ender2070 | *caused | Jul 21 18:42 |
| *MinceR has 9 extensions | Jul 21 18:42 | |
| schestowitz | Most of mine are disabled | Jul 21 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I carry my .mozilla since 2004 | Jul 21 18:42 |
| MinceR | all of mine are enabled in the default profile | Jul 21 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | Tony Hayward was it? | Jul 21 18:42 |
| ender2070 | Iran denied BP a monopoly and then its democratically elected leader was taken out | Jul 21 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | the big BP himself | Jul 21 18:42 |
| ender2070 | years and years ago | Jul 21 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:42 |
| schestowitz | The Shah? | Jul 21 18:42 |
| schestowitz | [spelling] | Jul 21 18:42 |
| schestowitz | The BBC shared a video about that some while ago | Jul 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Let me see if I can find it again | Jul 21 18:43 |
| ender2070 | this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh | Jul 21 18:43 |
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| ender2070 | he was taken out | Jul 21 18:43 |
| ender2070 | he didnt want BP in Iran | Jul 21 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | I like that word | Jul 21 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | putz | Jul 21 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | because it can either just mean someone is an idiot | Jul 21 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2010/06/post.html | Jul 21 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | I had it bookmarked | Jul 21 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | or it can mean that they're a total pecker | Jul 21 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of vague | Jul 21 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | leaves some room for interpretation | Jul 21 18:44 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, the government tells BP what to do | Jul 21 18:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 18:44 |
| *DaemonFC facepalms | Jul 21 18:44 | |
| schestowitz | In the US, you hire some Afghan and give them stingers | Jul 21 18:45 |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, the government controls business. | Jul 21 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The oil companies are under control, but you do get the occasional exploding television set? | Jul 21 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 21 18:45 |
| MinceR | In capitalism, man exploits man. In socialism, it's the other way around! | Jul 21 18:46 |
| ender2070 | ROFL | Jul 21 18:46 |
| ender2070 | +1 | Jul 21 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | What do they do in the Democratic Federal People's Republic of MinceRstan? | Jul 21 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR = El Jefe for life | Jul 21 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | but they hold an election every 2 years for shits and giggles | Jul 21 18:48 |
| ender2070 | diebold powered | Jul 21 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | you can vote for MinceR, or you can vote for someone from the MinceR Party, which MinceR presides over | Jul 21 18:49 |
| MinceR | "Do you have elections?" "Yes, evely molning!" | Jul 21 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | there's a choice | Jul 21 18:49 |
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| MinceR | in the People's Democratic People's Republic of the People of DaemonFCistan, nobody votes because everyone's been shot | Jul 21 18:50 |
| MinceR | by DaemonFC | Jul 21 18:50 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] In capitalism, man exploits man. In socialism, it's the other way around! - Mincer | Jul 21 18:50 | |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of like how Ahmadinejad is really in charge of jack and shit | Jul 21 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | and jack left town | Jul 21 18:50 |
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| ender2070 | +1 again Mincer | Jul 21 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: But I shoot the dissenters myself | Jul 21 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | which is more than most politicians give you | Jul 21 18:51 |
| MinceR | are you a dissenter? | Jul 21 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | my thugs have never killed anyone | Jul 21 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | they club them over the head and bring them to me | Jul 21 18:51 |
| ender2070 | back in the day I had a website with articles I used to write in a maddox-like style | Jul 21 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 18:51 |
| MinceR | your thugs are pussies | Jul 21 18:51 |
| ender2070 | I write some stuff about the future of the world, run by me | Jul 21 18:51 |
| ender2070 | wrote* | Jul 21 18:52 |
| MinceR | ender2070: url plz | Jul 21 18:52 |
| ender2070 | damn typos | Jul 21 18:52 |
| ender2070 | not online anymore | Jul 21 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I rule with an iron fist, I'll appoint my own successor before I die | Jul 21 18:52 |
| ender2070 | you would never guess I wrote it either, I was a liberal back then | Jul 21 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | and the ultimate goal is to dissolve the government and give rule to the people | Jul 21 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | at *some point* in time | Jul 21 18:52 |
| ender2070 | same DaemonFC | Jul 21 18:53 |
| MinceR | in which sense of "liberal"? | Jul 21 18:53 |
| ender2070 | canadian liberal | Jul 21 18:53 |
| ender2070 | which is far left | Jul 21 18:53 |
| MinceR | ah, so not liberal at all | Jul 21 18:53 |
| ender2070 | actually i was quite left before, i used to vote NDP | Jul 21 18:53 |
| MinceR | just like absurdistani "liberal"s | Jul 21 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Canadian liberals are the ones who want to charge $5 a gallon for gasoline so they can fund fields full of CO2 scrubbers | Jul 21 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | right? | Jul 21 18:53 |
| ender2070 | NDP is the most socialist party in Canada | Jul 21 18:53 |
| ender2070 | I would've voted communist back then too, but figured NDP had a better chance | Jul 21 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | I was watching a thing on the Science Channel about how they want to build these fields of CO2 scrubbers, and we'll only be paying $3 a gallon more for gasoline to fund them | Jul 21 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | and our electric bill will only doublke | Jul 21 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | and the deaths of millions of poor people to cover that is a small price to pay | Jul 21 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | for eco-fascism | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | lol! gasoline powered c02 scrubbers? | Jul 21 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | no | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | plant some fucking trees | Jul 21 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | they want to tax the fuck out of everything | Jul 21 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | to fund CO2 scrubbers | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | oh yeah | Jul 21 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | fields full of chemical CO2 scrubbers | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | they want to tax the internet to pay for something | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | i cant remember what for | Jul 21 18:55 |
| MinceR | "There are fields, Neo, endless fields." | Jul 21 18:55 |
| ender2070 | it failed though | Jul 21 18:55 |
| MinceR | to be fair, afaik those scrubbers are much more efficient at CO2 scrubbing than trees | Jul 21 18:56 |
| ender2070 | it was a global tax for the internet too | Jul 21 18:56 |
| MinceR | still, trees have other functions too | Jul 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I predict we'll start hacking down those pesky trees we've been spending the last 20 years planting | Jul 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | they're not as efficient as the scrubbers | Jul 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:56 |
| MinceR | what's this "spending the last 20 years planting"? | Jul 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | oh, that Arbor Day sierra club horseshit | Jul 21 18:56 |
| ender2070 | yes trees provide all sorts of homes for animals, they provide paper and paper is one of the most recyclable materials | Jul 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: We can get synthetic animal homes from China | Jul 21 18:57 |
| ender2070 | nah, i mean they should replant the amazon | Jul 21 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | with lead paint in them | Jul 21 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | and cadmium | Jul 21 18:57 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - the shrek 4 glasses at McDonalds had radium in the yellow paint | Jul 21 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | and grow GMO wheat and soy with hydroponics | Jul 21 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | and really we're feeding people dead people | Jul 21 18:58 |
| ender2070 | Soylent Green | Jul 21 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | as soylent neo-liberal fascist chips | Jul 21 18:58 |
| MinceR | http://everything2.com/title/SOY%2521+SOY%2521+SOY%2521+Soy+makes+you+strong%2521+Strength+crushes+enemies%2521+SOY%2521 | Jul 21 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: SOY! SOY! SOY! Soy makes you strong! Strength crushes enemies! SOY!@Everything2.com .::. Size~: 28.22 KB | Jul 21 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Eat recycled food | Jul 21 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's good for the environment | Jul 21 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | and OK for you | Jul 21 18:59 |
| ender2070 | theres people out there who want to ban burrying the dead, and replace it with ecco cremation | Jul 21 18:59 |
| ender2070 | sprinkle grandma on your garden and watch it grow! | Jul 21 18:59 |
| MinceR | most food is recycled | Jul 21 18:59 |
| ender2070 | Cha Cha Cha Chia! | Jul 21 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, these tomatoes taste like Social Security checks and snuff | Jul 21 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:00 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 19:00 |
| ender2070 | it'll satisfy the canibals | Jul 21 19:00 |
| ender2070 | 'this apple tastes just like asians' | Jul 21 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | What's the point in eating Asian people? You'll just be hungry again in an hour! | Jul 21 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:02 |
| MinceR | eat more of them | Jul 21 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | but all those carbs and MSGs? | Jul 21 19:03 |
| MinceR | don't eat humans if you don't want them | Jul 21 19:04 |
| MinceR | http://everything2.com/title/The+One+True+Meme | Jul 21 19:04 |
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| DaemonFC | lets carve up Michael Moore | Jul 21 19:04 |
| ender2070 | I think we can come to a compromise on the whole Firefox and Chromium war | Jul 21 19:04 |
| *DaemonFC gives MinceR the breasts | Jul 21 19:05 | |
| ender2070 | They both Rock, and everything else sucks | Jul 21 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:05 |
| *MinceR dodges with inhuman speed and agility | Jul 21 19:05 | |
| ender2070 | eating michael moore would probably give you a heart attack | Jul 21 19:05 |
| ender2070 | you know how much chloresteral that would be? | Jul 21 19:06 |
| MinceR | it's not the cholesterol that matters, it's the LDL | Jul 21 19:06 |
| MinceR | and even that's probably overblown | Jul 21 19:06 |
| ender2070 | hes probably full of saturated and trans fat | Jul 21 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNILUwC9RUs&feature=related | Jul 21 19:06 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhQyrMJnhfo&feature=related | Jul 21 19:08 |
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| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 21 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpX2Cx86hg8&feature=related | Jul 21 19:09 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-childneglectarres,0,2026144.story | Jul 21 19:14 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmmm | Jul 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | CLEEETUS!!!! | Jul 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | GRAW!!!!! | Jul 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66K1QR20100721 | Jul 21 19:15 |
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| DaemonFC | ""Because of this law, the American people will never again be asked to foot the bill for Wall Street's mistakes," Obama said at a signing ceremony for the legislation approved by the U.S. Congress last week." | Jul 21 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Can we quote him on that next time? | Jul 21 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I want the government to bail me out some time after I blow all my money on hookers and drug parties | Jul 21 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds like fun | Jul 21 19:16 |
| MinceR | sure you can, unless they take your remaining freedom of speech away by then | Jul 21 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Obama probably owns the copyright on that quip | Jul 21 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | he'll send the Intellectual Property Enforcement Nazis after you if you quote him | Jul 21 19:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 19:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Co-founder Paul Allen Joins Philanthrocapitalism Club While Bill Gates Invests in Climate Liars http://ur1.ca/0t3no | Jul 21 19:17 | |
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| cubezzz3 | well, obviously things are still rather bad | Jul 21 19:24 |
| cubezzz3 | I thought Russia might have been a bit different | Jul 21 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | would those be the liars that suggest global warming is real? | Jul 21 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | you should watch their eye movement and body language while they tell you all about global warming | Jul 21 19:25 |
| cubezzz3 | no, I mean governments brain washed by Microsoft, or just plain bad to the bone | Jul 21 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen one "scientist" talking about the "threat of global warming" that I believed felt he was honest | Jul 21 19:25 |
| cubezzz3 | oh it's mostly global warming there's no doubt about it | Jul 21 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | they point to statistical noise as "proof" of global warming | Jul 21 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | they're about as bad as the Homeopaths that schestowitz makes fun of | Jul 21 19:26 |
| cubezzz3 | around here, every year has less and less snow, and hotter and hotter summers | Jul 21 19:26 |
| cubezzz3 | I even track the weather stations for the last 6 years | Jul 21 19:26 |
| cubezzz3 | not hard to see | Jul 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh no, in the last 30 years, the global temperature has risen 0.1 degrees fahrenheit from the 30 years before that!" | Jul 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | There's your "proof" | Jul 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm more inclined to believe that homeopathy and the memory of water is credible science than the global warming fabrication | Jul 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | homeopathy is far more convincing | Jul 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | 0.1 degrees fahrenheit! | Jul 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG!!! | Jul 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | HEAT WAVE!!! | Jul 21 19:28 |
| cubezzz3 | look at pictures of Mount Everest then | Jul 21 19:28 |
| cubezzz3 | from 1920, then compare to now | Jul 21 19:28 |
| cubezzz3 | there's no question about it | Jul 21 19:28 |
| cubezzz3 | the glaciers are much smaller | Jul 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Since the global average temperature has gone up from 56 degrees F to 56.1 degrees F, those starving kids in Africa are dying of something other than AIDS | Jul 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | and it's all your fault! | Jul 21 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | damn you! | Jul 21 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | They have this commercial on the Discovery channel talking about their TV programs in African classrooms. One of the kids is all like "I didn't know there was this thing called Jupiter and that people have been to the moon!" | Jul 21 19:30 |
| ender2070 | there is climate change but I wouldn't blame humans | Jul 21 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I rolled my eyes | Jul 21 19:30 |
| ender2070 | ice ages always happen | Jul 21 19:30 |
| MinceR | there is climate change and i would blame humans for at least part of it | Jul 21 19:31 |
| ender2070 | its a natural cycle | Jul 21 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | "Well, since you were only expected to live 36.2 years, we didn't see much reason to tell you" | Jul 21 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 19:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: actually it's yours | Jul 21 19:31 |
| cubezzz3 | oceans losing oxygen is rather worrisome | Jul 21 19:31 |
| ender2070 | if any blame goes to humans, its the ones running the globalized corporations which are now profitting from carbon credits while they keep polluting | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | actually, if every country had US-style laws, there would be no place for the polluters to run off to | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | like Mexico and China | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | and Vietnam | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | and of course India | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Honduras | Jul 21 19:32 |
| MinceR | s/place/need | Jul 21 19:32 |
| MinceR | / | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Nicaragua | Jul 21 19:32 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Jul 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Bangladesh | Jul 21 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Pakistan | Jul 21 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | ... | Jul 21 19:33 |
| cubezzz3 | things aren't "Silent Running" level yet but... | Jul 21 19:33 |
| MinceR | and no, it isn't limited to globalized corporations, those practices are pretty much global | Jul 21 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | they'll jsut run off to wherever there's no laws to protect the air and water | Jul 21 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | and keep doing whatever they want | Jul 21 19:33 |
| MinceR | so they'll just run off to the USA? | Jul 21 19:33 |
| ender2070 | Mincer - my point is that these companies aren't even getting slapped on the wrist, we pay for their pollution with higher taxes | Jul 21 19:34 |
| MinceR | and to the PRC? | Jul 21 19:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 21 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | European and North American style environmental laws just move the problem to where we don't have to look at it | Jul 21 19:34 |
| ender2070 | we are getting punished for their acts | Jul 21 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: You have to give me that much :P | Jul 21 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't protect anything, it shifts the entire problem someplace else | Jul 21 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:35 |
| ender2070 | im paying higher taxes on electronics so that they dont end up in a Canadian landfill | Jul 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | and before you know it, we have smog clouds from China drifting over to the US | Jul 21 19:35 |
| ender2070 | they never did | Jul 21 19:35 |
| ender2070 | they've been shipping all that waste to China, and are still doing it | Jul 21 19:35 |
| ender2070 | over 10 years | Jul 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I'm paying higher taxes so that 3rd world children can pick apart stuff full of lead and heavy metals to recycle the shit | Jul 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | in the middle of an open dump somewhere | Jul 21 19:36 |
| ender2070 | DaemoNFC - they would anyways | Jul 21 19:36 |
| ender2070 | now we pay to ship it over | Jul 21 19:36 |
| MinceR | what's wrong with picking them apart for lead and heavy metals to recycle? | Jul 21 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: That's why I say environmental protection laws are feel good hippie crap | Jul 21 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | that only move the problem to wherever it's legal | Jul 21 19:36 |
| MinceR | you're a true republican, you feel that environmental protection itself is feel good hippie crap :> | Jul 21 19:36 |
| ender2070 | Before stewardship ontario: electronic waste was shipped to China | Jul 21 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: If the laws were the same everywhere | Jul 21 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | and enforced consistently | Jul 21 19:37 |
| ender2070 | after stewardship ontario: electronic waste was shipped to China, and we pay taxes on new electronics | Jul 21 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only way they would work | Jul 21 19:37 |
| MinceR | global anarchy would do that, actually :> | Jul 21 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | telling the US to commit suicide so that the pollution can be put out by China instead is fucking ridiculous | Jul 21 19:37 |
| MinceR | laws={}; enforcement=0 | Jul 21 19:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 19:37 |
| ender2070 | not only that | Jul 21 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | as long as it's legal ANYWHERE, the problem exists | Jul 21 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | you're just shifting it around | Jul 21 19:38 |
| cubezzz3 | that would make laws undefined :) | Jul 21 19:38 |
| MinceR | making it illegal is not the only way to fight it | Jul 21 19:38 |
| cubezzz3 | compiler specific | Jul 21 19:38 |
| MinceR | there's nothing magical about laws | Jul 21 19:38 |
| ender2070 | copenhagen wanted to tax Canada, US, and many other first world countries so that China and India could be paid to figure out how to pollute less | Jul 21 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So how else do you fight it? | Jul 21 19:38 |
| MinceR | with armed threats :> | Jul 21 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | do people in Hungary give a shit about the environmental effects of high lead soil contamination in China? | Jul 21 19:39 |
| cubezzz3 | fine polluters, reward companies with low carbon footprint | Jul 21 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | are you somehow magically more ethical than other humans? | Jul 21 19:39 |
| MinceR | most don't even know about it, same as anywhere else | Jul 21 19:39 |
| MinceR | except in some parts of asia, where it's a local problem | Jul 21 19:39 |
| ender2070 | [14:33] <cubezzz3> fine polluters, reward companies with low carbon footprint | Jul 21 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | in super Ethical MinceRstan, they care about the environment | Jul 21 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | and the products they buy | Jul 21 19:39 |
| MinceR | and no, hungarians aren't more ethical than other humans | Jul 21 19:39 |
| ender2070 | only works if you eliminate carbon credits | Jul 21 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | because El Jefe MinceR says to | Jul 21 19:39 |
| ender2070 | every corporation offsets their carbon with them so they can keep polluting | Jul 21 19:40 |
| MinceR | i do have the feeling that usians are less ethical than other humans, though | Jul 21 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | doubtful | Jul 21 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | humans are equally horrible | Jul 21 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | and perverse | Jul 21 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | and depraved | Jul 21 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | and sadistic | Jul 21 19:40 |
| MinceR | it's a 'shades of black' thing | Jul 21 19:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] [maj nem ɪz ᴐmaɹ] [w^t iz jur nem] ? :-) | Jul 21 19:40 | |
| ender2070 | its a culture thing | Jul 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | you take a random sampling of 100 people in the US and ask them if they'll change their buying habits to be less destructive to the environment if it means paying 50% more | Jul 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | and just as many Hungarians will tell you to go fuck yourself | Jul 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | over asking them to personally inconvenience themselves | Jul 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's the truth | Jul 21 19:41 |
| cubezzz3 | where are you getting 50% from? | Jul 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | it has nothing to do with nationalities | Jul 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's personal greed | Jul 21 19:42 |
| cubezzz3 | it wouldn't be that much | Jul 21 19:42 |
| MinceR | i think that "50%" part is a fallacy | Jul 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's all down to the person | Jul 21 19:42 |
| ender2070 | for some stuff it will be 50% more | Jul 21 19:42 |
| MinceR | loaded question | Jul 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | why is gas like $7 a gallon in many areas of Europe? | Jul 21 19:42 |
| ender2070 | electricity is a perfect example | Jul 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | environmental taxes | Jul 21 19:42 |
| MinceR | to support DaemonFC's agenda :> | Jul 21 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Diversity is Good, Proprietary Software Giants Are Not http://ur1.ca/0t3w7 Timely perspective on Apple, Microsoft, and #Linux | Jul 21 19:42 | |
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| cubezzz3 | I walk everywhere | Jul 21 19:42 |
| cubezzz3 | cars waste money | Jul 21 19:43 |
| MinceR | i don't get to walk everywhere | Jul 21 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | moving to "Taxachussetts" probably has nothing on Europe | Jul 21 19:43 |
| ender2070 | I think they need to take rights away from businesses and corps | Jul 21 19:43 |
| ender2070 | not us | Jul 21 19:43 |
| MinceR | i use walking, public transport and my car, depending on situation | Jul 21 19:43 |
| MinceR | i think they need to make the people hiding behind corporations accountable for their actions | Jul 21 19:43 |
| ender2070 | true | Jul 21 19:44 |
| cubezzz3 | lead and aluminium recycling has been very successful | Jul 21 19:44 |
| ender2070 | charging me 0.5 cents for bags isn't going to help the environment | Jul 21 19:44 |
| cubezzz3 | we don't need to mine lead as much now | Jul 21 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Speaking of cars, the biggest scam I've seen is HEET | Jul 21 19:44 |
| MinceR | and i think that the key people behind global corruption must be removed by force because the legal system and its enforcement isn't going to do anything about it | Jul 21 19:44 |
| MinceR | what's that? heat in dutch? | Jul 21 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | those bottles of ethanol they sell, like 16 ounces for $3 | Jul 21 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | to help stop your gas line from freezing in the winter | Jul 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | you can go get a gallon of E85 for like $2 | Jul 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 21 19:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | it stops your gas line from freezing up jsut as well | Jul 21 19:45 |
| MinceR | sounds dangerous | Jul 21 19:45 |
| ender2070 | electricity costs doubled here in ontario | Jul 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | and you'll get at least 20 miles off it too | Jul 21 19:45 |
| MinceR | on a car not prepared for E85, it would mean rusting your gas line instead of letting it freeze | Jul 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's all in the mix | Jul 21 19:46 |
| MinceR | with the user being none the wiser | Jul 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | 10-15% is safe | Jul 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | even for old cars | Jul 21 19:46 |
| ender2070 | smart meters are being installed too to make sure they squeeze every penny out of us | Jul 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's enough to raise the freezing point significantly | Jul 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | put a gallon of E-85 in per 10 gallons of gas and you get an 8.5% ethanol content in that mix | Jul 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | well below the point of concern | Jul 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | and it still keeps t he fuel line from freezing | Jul 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I've played around with mixing in E-85 in the winter | Jul 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | to help make sure my car starts | Jul 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's cheaper than buying a little bottle of HEET | Jul 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is just pure ethanol | Jul 21 19:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The fall of the Redmond Empire - History lesson not learnt? http://tinyurl.com/32nupdz #microsoft #mvp #mvpbuzz | Jul 21 19:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | my tank holds like 16.8 gallons, so a couple gallons of E-85 won't hurt | Jul 21 19:49 |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Jul 21 19:49 | |
| DaemonFC | other than that, E-85 is useless | Jul 21 19:49 |
| MinceR | might be that a small percentage of bioethanol content is already mandatory here in gas | Jul 21 19:49 |
| MinceR | can't check now, though | Jul 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | even with all the subsidies, you still pay more to use that in the end | Jul 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | E-85 tends to be like 5-10% cheaper per gallon than gas | Jul 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | but you like over 25% of your gas mileage if you run it | Jul 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | even in cars made for it | Jul 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | so you still pay more per mile | Jul 21 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | *lose like | Jul 21 19:50 |
| MinceR | this may yet change though | Jul 21 19:51 |
| MinceR | as oil reserves are exhausted, etc. | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's more about creating a corn shortage than it is about creating a credible biofuel | Jul 21 19:51 |
| ender2070 | WWF goes and buys natural resources for the carbon credits and sells the credits to polluting countries | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | you can make ethanol out of any plant matter you can ferment | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | why corn? | Jul 21 19:51 |
| cubezzz3 | they grow a LOT of corn | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | we could take every unemployed American, hand him a machete | Jul 21 19:51 |
| MinceR | they don't only use corn for it | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | and have him cut down Kudzu vine | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | and ferment that | Jul 21 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | there's something to think about | Jul 21 19:52 |
| MinceR | sounds like a good idea to me | Jul 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | Kudzu is a pest weed with no other real purpose | Jul 21 19:52 |
| MinceR | give unemployed people such work instead of taxpayers' money | Jul 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | and there's a hell of a lot of it in the south | Jul 21 19:52 |
| cubezzz3 | probably less energy density | Jul 21 19:52 |
| ender2070 | [14:45] <MinceR> as oil reserves are exhausted, etc. | Jul 21 19:52 |
| ender2070 | not happening | Jul 21 19:52 |
| MinceR | afaik there's a lot of cellulose in all plants | Jul 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yes, employ them to hack down Kudzu instead of idling themselves while we burn gas | Jul 21 19:52 |
| MinceR | which can all be turned into ethanol | Jul 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | :)_ | Jul 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | what's the problem with that plan? | Jul 21 19:52 |
| MinceR | it would be less profitable to bomb middle-eastern countries for oil | Jul 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | nobody eats Kudzu, there's nothing that can really be made of it but alcohol | Jul 21 19:53 |
| MinceR | so weapons manufacturers would oppose it | Jul 21 19:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 19:53 |
| ender2070 | theres untapped oil reserves all over ontario, which were known in the 20's | Jul 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | and it grows like crazy | Jul 21 19:53 |
| ender2070 | they kind of disappeared from recent textbooks (30's and up) | Jul 21 19:53 |
| MinceR | ender2070: and how expensive are they to use? | Jul 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: With my plan, in 20 years we could be free of foreign oil | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | and exporting ethanol to Canada | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:54 |
| MinceR | we have some untapped gas reserves that aren't used because they're too expensive to mine...yet | Jul 21 19:54 |
| MinceR | afaik | Jul 21 19:54 |
| ender2070 | theres plenty in alberta still | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you spend a barrel to get five out of Alberta | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | you spend a barrel to get 20 in Saudi Arabia | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | 100 years ago, you spent a barrel to get 100 | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | the Alberta fields are a last ditch effort to feed an addiction that's not worth feeding | Jul 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's like a heroin addict going after the last gram in a filthy AIDS contaminated needle | Jul 21 19:55 |
| ender2070 | oil reserves is propaganda to make people think its a rarity, hence the price hikes | Jul 21 19:55 |
| ender2070 | just like how DeBeers has warehouses full of diamonds not on the market | Jul 21 19:56 |
| ender2070 | if they flooded the market diamonds would be worthless | Jul 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Alberta should make us stop and consider how ridiculous it is to retrieve the oil of of the sands | Jul 21 19:56 |
| ender2070 | artificial scarcity | Jul 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's ridiculously expensive | Jul 21 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | nobody notices how wasteful it is cause it gets mixed in with a bunch of oil recovered by more reasonable means | Jul 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | before it gets sold on the market | Jul 21 19:57 |
| ender2070 | theres places where farmers are being paid not to grow food on their land | Jul 21 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I don't believe in global warming, I just never will | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | but the destructive oil drilling disasters are very real | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | and there is a fixed amount of it | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | and it will only get more expensive | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | and cause more wars | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | so there are real practical reasons to get away from oil | Jul 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | without making up junk science | Jul 21 19:58 |
| ender2070 | http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jul/11/na-usda-urged-to-end-paying-farmers-not-to-grow-cr/ | Jul 21 19:59 |
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| DaemonFC | if people really felt like the government was being honest with them | Jul 21 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | and not pissing on them and telling them it's raining | Jul 21 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | (global warming) | Jul 21 19:59 |
| MinceR | interesting that you don't include that in your conspiracy theory | Jul 21 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | something may get taken seriously | Jul 21 19:59 |
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| MinceR | what if the oil spill was caused to make alternative energy sources more appealing? | Jul 21 20:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | doubtful | Jul 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | if they wanted to do that, they would just lie about a disaster that never happened | Jul 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | far away from where people would see evidence that it did | Jul 21 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | and that way they wouldn't have to waste any oil | Jul 21 20:01 |
| ender2070 | its harder for them to get away with that | Jul 21 20:02 |
| ThistleWeb | unless they thought they could control it and stop it when they wanted | Jul 21 20:02 |
| ender2070 | climategate woke people up to the lies | Jul 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Why cause a real disaster? | Jul 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | all you have to do is bank on the Grapefruit Mentality | Jul 21 20:02 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm assuming this convo is sarcasm | Jul 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Doyle_(radio_host) | Jul 21 20:02 |
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| DaemonFC | "On his radio show he coined the phrase "Grapefruit Mentality", defined as the ability for the public to become interested in an object or person just because the media is paying attention to it. As an example, Doyle explains if there were a segment on the news every night with a television camera pointed at a grapefruit, people will eventually travel great distances just to see the grapefruit that was on TV." | Jul 21 20:03 |
| MinceR | do usian people care about chinese soil being polluted? | Jul 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | not at all | Jul 21 20:03 |
| MinceR | do usian people care about an oil spill they only hear in the news about? | Jul 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | but at least I'm telling the truth when I say it | Jul 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | not pretending to care | Jul 21 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | people care about problems that affect them | Jul 21 20:03 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jul 21 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | nationalism makes the oil spill personal even if you don't live along the coast | Jul 21 20:04 |
| MinceR | that's why they had to "waste" oil, according to that theory :> | Jul 21 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | ok, granted, but it's not like them | Jul 21 20:05 |
| ender2070 | I heard a psychic say it was a North Korean attack | Jul 21 20:05 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | it would be like an alcoholic spilling out his beer | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | to make a point | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | so there's two ways to think about this | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | they're causing the disaster to exploit nationalism | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | is one | Jul 21 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | the other is, it really is a disaster because they'd never want to waste that much oil | Jul 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | both are possible | Jul 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | which one is more likely? | Jul 21 20:06 |
| ender2070 | or | Jul 21 20:06 |
| MinceR | also note that the "sabotage" didn't have to come from within BP :> | Jul 21 20:06 |
| ender2070 | they caused the disaster to get enviro laws passed | Jul 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | as a front to issue more taxation | Jul 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | but that's a side effect | Jul 21 20:07 |
| ender2070 | the next copenhagen will likely pass because of BP | Jul 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | blah | Jul 21 20:07 |
| ThistleWeb | if anything BP are more likely to have 2 figures for the amoutn of oil they spilled, a smaller one for the insurance forms on their liabilities, and a larger one for the compo hand-out pleas from the tax payer | Jul 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | because the first two situations I mentioned achieve this | Jul 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | murder the fucktards in office | Jul 21 20:07 |
| ThistleWeb | just wait a while until the anger dies down, then send the suits into washington for cash | Jul 21 20:07 |
| WireWulf | rape the world of this government trash | Jul 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Whether intentional or unintentional, they can always pass more tax grab laws under the fake front of "environmental concern" | Jul 21 20:08 |
| ender2070 | I bet you all, BP is talked about at the next climate change summit and they all pass the insane laws they tried last year | Jul 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: It's hard to ratify a treaty in the US | Jul 21 20:08 |
| ender2070 | not hard after BP | Jul 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing harder is amending our own constitution | Jul 21 20:08 |
| ThistleWeb | I've heard that BP are at risk of losing licences to drill etc in some areas because of this | Jul 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | a treaty requires 2/3rds of the Senate and the President | Jul 21 20:09 |
| MinceR | 007 -- Licence to Drill | Jul 21 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | a constitutional emendment requires 2/3rds of the full Congress, the President, and 3/5ths of the states | Jul 21 20:09 |
| ender2070 | remember BP has CIA ties and MI5 ties, both agencies carried out false flag operations in iran over oil | Jul 21 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | so both are hard to actually pass | Jul 21 20:09 |
| ThistleWeb | constipation? | Jul 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: You realize how hard it is to get 66 votes in favor of anything in the Senate? | Jul 21 20:10 |
| ThistleWeb | oh, different "hard to pass" | Jul 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | the only time it goes past that is if it's some meaningless "support our troops" resolution | Jul 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's totally nonbinding | Jul 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | "you shall not pass!" | Jul 21 20:10 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - yeah but this nationalism you talk about being exploited, will be exploited for this purpose | Jul 21 20:10 |
| ender2070 | Obama will be guilted into signing because of BP | Jul 21 20:11 |
| MinceR | funny how important the "nation" is in a melting pot | Jul 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | "We want to support our troops, we just can't agree how" | Jul 21 20:11 |
| WireWulf | "nation" is in a crapper | Jul 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | "Body armor costs money, people are cheap" | Jul 21 20:11 |
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| WireWulf | better training is ore affective then untrained human targets | Jul 21 20:12 |
| ender2070 | soon enough we'll all be under a soviet style system, even if its under another name | Jul 21 20:12 |
| ender2070 | lol Stalin once said Communism is socialism in a hurry | Jul 21 20:12 |
| WireWulf | welcome to the ussa | Jul 21 20:12 |
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| TechrightsBot | better training is ore affective then untrained human targets | Jul 21 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot | soon enough we'll all be under a soviet style system, even if its under another name | Jul 21 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot | lol Stalin once said Communism is socialism in a hurry | Jul 21 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot | welcome to the ussa | Jul 21 20:12 |
| ender2070 | lol bot | Jul 21 20:13 |
| cubezzz3 | the bot is talking to us | Jul 21 20:13 |
| WireWulf | all i got to say to american dictors "kill me frist" | Jul 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf: The Soviets didn't care how many losses they incurred | Jul 21 20:14 |
| MinceR | "Would it have been more politically correct to kill the women and the children first?" | Jul 21 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | talking to your butt is not a sign of a heathly mind | Jul 21 20:14 |
| ThistleWeb | specially when it talks back | Jul 21 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | they threw poorly trained, barely armed "soldiers" out there to run the Germans out of bombs and bullets | Jul 21 20:14 |
| WireWulf | yup | Jul 21 20:15 |
| ender2070 | if it works it works | Jul 21 20:16 |
| WireWulf | cuts down of ssi and over population | Jul 21 20:16 |
| WireWulf | :P | Jul 21 20:17 |
| WireWulf | however one good snipper > then 20 waves of untrained unarmed troops | Jul 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf: They won't let felons enlist | Jul 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I found that funny | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think we should dump them all in Iraq | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | and arm them | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | see how that goes | Jul 21 20:18 |
| WireWulf | pedofiles frist | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Jul 21 20:18 |
| ender2070 | theres a problem with that though | Jul 21 20:18 |
| ender2070 | what if they don't die, they have all that military training | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | dump them in Iraq, hand them a machine gun, and say "You're free if you can survive | Jul 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 21 20:18 |
| WireWulf | blah cut the humanitrian bullshit | Jul 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: They can colonize Iraq when they're done | Jul 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 20:19 |
| WireWulf | only if we get free oil | Jul 21 20:19 |
| ender2070 | you guys just make more Bin laden's | Jul 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jul 21 20:19 |
| WireWulf | okay i have away to fix the drimal system | Jul 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Bin Laden wouldn't last a day if we dumped all our prisoners out and armed them and sent them over there | Jul 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | the Taliban would be running in terror | Jul 21 20:20 |
| ender2070 | nah | Jul 21 20:20 |
| WireWulf | bin whats his name would cry to the chinese about it | Jul 21 20:20 |
| ender2070 | all you guys need is the Flatulent Airborn Reaction Team | Jul 21 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | there's what? like 1% of the US population in prison right now for felonies? | Jul 21 20:21 |
| WireWulf | ender2070 but then how do we get th prisons not full | Jul 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's about 3-4 million hardcore criminals | Jul 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | who are in Iraq now | Jul 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | heavily armed | Jul 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | they would take that place over | Jul 21 20:21 |
| WireWulf | then fight amougt them selfs | Jul 21 20:21 |
| ender2070 | F.A.R.T | Jul 21 20:22 |
| ender2070 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8683046848311681223# | Jul 21 20:22 |
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| DaemonFC | nope | Jul 21 20:22 |
| ender2070 | my old world domination plans used criminals for drug testing | Jul 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | move into Iran | Jul 21 20:23 |
| ender2070 | and they were used to do all the shitty manual labour jobs we dont want to do | Jul 21 20:23 |
| WireWulf | lets send them over there but implant bombs in them before hand | Jul 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | overthrow the Ayatollah Cockamamie and then roast him on a spit | Jul 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 21 20:23 |
| ender2070 | that george carlin vid is awesome btw | Jul 21 20:24 |
| WireWulf | then make a few hundred of the illegal mexicans in the USA man the oil drilling stuff | Jul 21 20:24 |
| MinceR | i'd rather use robots to do manual labor | Jul 21 20:24 |
| MinceR | and get rid of most people | Jul 21 20:24 |
| ender2070 | im surprised DaemoFC isn't suggesting that they paradrop the criminals over a DMZ | Jul 21 20:25 |
| ender2070 | where they would get mined | Jul 21 20:25 |
| ender2070 | film and sell the results as RealityTV or pay per view | Jul 21 20:25 |
| WireWulf | place the criminals in that mile wide scare between north and south korea and tell them to kill all commies | Jul 21 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | take a page from the Book of Castro | Jul 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | and send him his Cubans back | Jul 21 20:27 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | with all of the Mexicans too | Jul 21 20:27 |
| WireWulf | haha :) | Jul 21 20:27 |
| ender2070 | Cuba has a decent dental plan | Jul 21 20:27 |
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| WireWulf | software shouldnt be copyrighted | Jul 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: My medical plan covers 80% of the "approved cost" after $155 deductible | Jul 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's not terrible | Jul 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | the doctor agrees to work for the "approved cost | Jul 21 20:28 |
| ender2070 | WireWulf - that would kill the effectiveness of the GPL | Jul 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | so like if the doctor charges $80, and the "approved cost" is $62.50 for an office visit | Jul 21 20:28 |
| ender2070 | it would be worse than BSD | Jul 21 20:28 |
| ender2070 | at least with BSD, proprietary devs will have to mention their names | Jul 21 20:29 |
| ender2070 | public domain, not at all | Jul 21 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | I pay like $12.50 to see the doctor | Jul 21 20:29 |
| ender2070 | copyright needs reform to protect the little guy, and take the incentives away from big business/corps | Jul 21 20:29 |
| WireWulf | ender2070 my issue with copyrights is the fact in closes the use of sorton code | Jul 21 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | copyright as originally written wasn't bad | Jul 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | if we could apply the original US copyright terms to software and get rid of patents, I'd have no problem with that | Jul 21 20:30 |
| ender2070 | patents need to die | Jul 21 20:30 |
| ender2070 | they are stupid | Jul 21 20:30 |
| WireWulf | copyrighting progaming code would be like me copy righting basic math formuals | Jul 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | the copyrights would only give them 14 years of exclusivity | Jul 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | then the code would be public domain | Jul 21 20:30 |
| WireWulf | true | Jul 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's not how it works now obviously | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | but I think it would be fair | Jul 21 20:31 |
| ender2070 | now its death, plus more years? | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | instead what you have now is an effective "forever" copyright term | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo still owns stuff they made for the Atari 2600 | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 20:31 |
| WireWulf | "forever" | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft still owns Windows 1.0 | Jul 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | and DOS 1.0 | Jul 21 20:32 |
| WireWulf | M$ is gay | Jul 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | the the original US copyright law was all that applied to source code, then Windows 95 would have been totally public domain last year | Jul 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | as well as NT 4.0 this year | Jul 21 20:32 |
| ender2070 | and OS/2 :D :D | Jul 21 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think 14 years of exclusivity is more than fair | Jul 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | 10 | Jul 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | i sxay | Jul 21 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | that gives them plenty of time to recoup their costs | Jul 21 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | and turn a profit | Jul 21 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | but it doesn't let them own it forever | Jul 21 20:33 |
| WireWulf | in 10 a os is normal out dated | Jul 21 20:33 |
| cubezzz3 | we don't need MIcrosoft at all | Jul 21 20:33 |
| cubezzz3 | I don't even want their source code | Jul 21 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | plus it would be kind of funny to get all of the Windows XP source code | Jul 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | and see just how bad it really is | Jul 21 20:34 |
| cubezzz3 | code is code anyways | Jul 21 20:34 |
| ender2070 | theres ms-dos and win2k and nt4 source code floating around the net | Jul 21 20:34 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC get all XP code and make a better version | Jul 21 20:34 |
| cubezzz3 | their iconic interface is no better than the many others which are available | Jul 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's a "shared source" version of a stripped down Windows NT 5.2 kernel minus all the drivers and the file system code out there | Jul 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's called the Windows Research Kernel | Jul 21 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | you can get that under an "educational license" | Jul 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | but you can't modify or distribute any of it | Jul 21 20:35 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 20:35 |
| cubezzz3 | I'd rather look at old unix code | Jul 21 20:35 |
| WireWulf | mm unix | Jul 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | NT 5.2 = Windows 2003 and XP x64 | Jul 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | I used Windows XP x64 for a while | Jul 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | it is better than XP | Jul 21 20:36 |
| ender2070 | XP x64 was awesome for XP | Jul 21 20:36 |
| WireWulf | did use x64 | Jul 21 20:36 |
| WireWulf | *didnt | Jul 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's far more stable | Jul 21 20:36 |
| ender2070 | 64-bit drivers need to be signed thats why | Jul 21 20:36 |
| WireWulf | it came out later so of course | Jul 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | benchmarks favorably against XP Professional as well | Jul 21 20:36 |
| ender2070 | you dont get shitty untested and unsigned drivers | Jul 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is trying to put the hurt on XP x64 users | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | yeah its funny | Jul 21 20:37 |
| WireWulf | yup | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | no Security Essentials, no Windows Live Essentials apps | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | XP x64's support ends a lot earlier than XP 32-bit | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | no third Service Pack | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | it doesnt need a 3rd | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah it does | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | SP2 is SP3 | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | no it's not | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | yes it is | Jul 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | there needs to be an SP3 for it | Jul 21 20:37 |
| ender2070 | XP x64 is 2003 SP1 | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | there's so many post-SP2 hotfixes for it that there should rightfully be an SP3 | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | per Microsoft's policy | Jul 21 20:38 |
| ender2070 | there is | Jul 21 20:38 |
| ender2070 | its called SP2 on x64 | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | or at least an "Update Rollup" like they did with Windows 2000 | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | no it isn't dammit!!! | Jul 21 20:38 |
| ender2070 | YES IT IS | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | AHHHH!!! | Jul 21 20:38 |
| cubezzz3 | are you addicted to windows? | Jul 21 20:38 |
| cubezzz3 | seriously | Jul 21 20:38 |
| WireWulf | no | Jul 21 20:38 |
| cubezzz3 | you can't stop talking about it | Jul 21 20:38 |
| ender2070 | SP1 XP x64 added all the sp2 features | Jul 21 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html | Jul 21 20:38 |
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| DaemonFC | and that's not even all of them | Jul 21 20:39 |
| WireWulf | but max os x 10.7 has sex with you | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I had to track down another 50 or so and integrate them one at a time | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Jul 21 20:39 |
| ender2070 | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=893fd6c0-6283-44c3-bb84-b2f0315b2ae6&displaylang=en | Jul 21 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Download details: Service Pack 2 for Windows XP Professional, x64 Edition .::. Size~: 41.78 KB | Jul 21 20:39 |
| ender2070 | look at that | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | wait a seconf | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | not the right link | Jul 21 20:39 |
| ender2070 | it shares the service pack with 2003 | Jul 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6400 | Jul 21 20:40 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - 5eraph's post-SP2 Update Pack v2010-07_1 .::. Size~: 340.6 KB | Jul 21 20:40 |
| ender2070 | Date Published:3/13/2007 | Jul 21 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | OK, this is what's current for XP x64, post-SP2 | Jul 21 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | it should be an SP 3 of its own | Jul 21 20:40 |
| ender2070 | should be but they dont care | Jul 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | and this doesn't even give you IE 8, WMP 11, the .NET frameworks, the new Search, or the DirectX updates | Jul 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | which btw, there's two versions of DirectX | Jul 21 20:41 |
| ender2070 | SP1 for x64 added all the stuff you got in SP2 for XP | Jul 21 20:41 |
| ender2070 | security center | Jul 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | the 32-bit and 64-bit ones | Jul 21 20:41 |
| ender2070 | because x64 came out after XP SP1 was out | Jul 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | OK, then there should be an SP3 for Windows 2003 | Jul 21 20:41 |
| ender2070 | yes I agree | Jul 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | that contains the post Windows 2003 SP2 updates | Jul 21 20:42 |
| ender2070 | but that wont sell 2008 | Jul 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I mean | Jul 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | XP x64 is Windows 2003 | Jul 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | not XP | Jul 21 20:42 |
| ender2070 | i know | Jul 21 20:42 |
| ender2070 | thats why it doesnt suck | Jul 21 20:42 |
| ender2070 | compared to XP 32bit | Jul 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | right, Microsoft's corporate products typically don't suck as bad as the desktop consumer crap | Jul 21 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | you noticed too? | Jul 21 20:43 |
| ender2070 | yes of course | Jul 21 20:43 |
| ender2070 | thats one of the reasons I hate them | Jul 21 20:43 |
| MinceR | i didn't notice that | Jul 21 20:43 |
| ender2070 | consumers get shit, business get better stuff | Jul 21 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Windows 2008 R2 as a desktop still manages to outperform Windows 7 | Jul 21 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | even though they're supposed to be the same core system | Jul 21 20:43 |
| cubezzz3 | stopped using Microsoft in 2003, it should have been earlier | Jul 21 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | if you benchmark both of them, 2008 R2 still performs about 10% better across the board | Jul 21 20:43 |
| MinceR | once you set it up to manage sound relatively correctly and such? :> | Jul 21 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | which is bizarre | Jul 21 20:44 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jul 21 20:44 |
| ender2070 | Win2008 uses about 700mb of ram, even win7 uses over 1gb | Jul 21 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | which shows you that they didn't optimize Windows 7 as well as they could have | Jul 21 20:44 |
| ender2070 | with areo | Jul 21 20:44 |
| ender2070 | and all that shit | Jul 21 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | why is that? | Jul 21 20:44 |
| MinceR | oreo | Jul 21 20:44 |
| MinceR | i wonder how much DRM shit does "server" come wit | Jul 21 20:45 |
| MinceR | h | Jul 21 20:45 |
| WireWulf | <<<still uses 95se2 | Jul 21 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm almost totally sure that it just comes mainly down to kernel configuration settings | Jul 21 20:45 |
| ender2070 | thats probably why its faster, i doubt a server needs DRM | Jul 21 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | just like you can end up with a good or bad Linux kernel due only to that | Jul 21 20:45 |
| MinceR | (the idea of "running" windows on a server is ludicrous) | Jul 21 20:45 |
| ender2070 | they disable the sound and video stuff | Jul 21 20:45 |
| cubezzz3 | because you have to keep the treadmill going -> slower OS means more intel cpus get sold | Jul 21 20:45 |
| cubezzz3 | then another even slower OS comes out | Jul 21 20:45 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz3 and more amd cpus | Jul 21 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I configured it as a desktop OS | Jul 21 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | and it still performs better than Windows 7 | Jul 21 20:45 |
| ender2070 | cant you use 2008 for like 128 days and then rearm it a few more times? | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | the results should have been about equal given my setup | Jul 21 20:46 |
| WireWulf | less 5th party bloat | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: You can also use ChewWGA | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | or REMOVE WAT | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | or the infinite rearm hack from Windows 7 | Jul 21 20:46 |
| MinceR | or cfdisk | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | or the OEM Bios hack | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | or the modified bootloader | Jul 21 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 20:47 |
| MinceR | or a gnu/linux install disc | Jul 21 20:47 |
| ender2070 | gnu/linux doesn't support 3d flip or live thumbnails | Jul 21 20:47 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure it supports the latter | Jul 21 20:47 |
| MinceR | not sure about the former | Jul 21 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just saying, Microsoft leaves too many ways around product activation to have been a mistake | Jul 21 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | they want you to be able to turn the activation off | Jul 21 20:47 |
| MinceR | but it has Window Picker which easily beats 3d flip :> | Jul 21 20:47 |
| ender2070 | gnu/linux doesnt have bitlocker or dreamscene | Jul 21 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't concern them because they can still reach in and flip it back on later | Jul 21 20:48 |
| ender2070 | love movies being my wallpaper | Jul 21 20:48 |
| MinceR | it has better disk encryption tools | Jul 21 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | and tell you to buy a copy | Jul 21 20:48 |
| MinceR | not sure what "dreamscene" is | Jul 21 20:48 |
| MinceR | oh, wallpaper bloat | Jul 21 20:48 |
| MinceR | well, you could run mplayer as the root window, could you not? | Jul 21 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: WMV or MP4 video | Jul 21 20:48 |
| ender2070 | truecrype and lvm encryption don't touch TPM | Jul 21 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | as wallpaper | Jul 21 20:48 |
| MinceR | TPM is useless | Jul 21 20:49 |
| ender2070 | TPM will keep ur hdd secure if your laptop is stolen | Jul 21 20:49 |
| MinceR | no it won't | Jul 21 20:49 |
| ender2070 | yes it will | Jul 21 20:49 |
| MinceR | it isn't tamper-proof | Jul 21 20:49 |
| ender2070 | its infallible | Jul 21 20:49 |
| MinceR | not even tamper-resistant | Jul 21 20:49 |
| ender2070 | dude, microsoft put millions into it | Jul 21 20:49 |
| cubezzz3 | better keep that old hardware :) | Jul 21 20:49 |
| ender2070 | its secure | Jul 21 20:49 |
| MinceR | probably not even protected against side channel in power supply drain | Jul 21 20:49 |
| MinceR | like smartcards | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | it's a DRM chip, not a security chip | Jul 21 20:50 |
| ender2070 | no it is a security chip | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | and a crappy one at that | Jul 21 20:50 |
| ender2070 | its used for DRM too | Jul 21 20:50 |
| WireWulf | DRMs are ta evils | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | it's intended for DRM | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | the endorsement key has no other possible function | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | yet it's there | Jul 21 20:50 |
| MinceR | so it's a DRM chip | Jul 21 20:51 |
| ender2070 | gnu/linux doesn't even support full resolution HDMI video to my HDMI tv from a blue ray player | Jul 21 20:51 |
| MinceR | not sure about that | Jul 21 20:51 |
| MinceR | i don't really care about blu-ray players | Jul 21 20:51 |
| MinceR | or HDMI | Jul 21 20:51 |
| WireWulf | ati linux driver say they do | Jul 21 20:51 |
| ender2070 | i hope you know im joking | Jul 21 20:51 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jul 21 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva 2010.1 is good | Jul 21 20:51 |
| MinceR | if you like error messages about locale? | Jul 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | Jul 21 20:52 |
| MinceR | or they have some other stupid errors this time aroun? | Jul 21 20:52 |
| WireWulf | my nvidia laptop drivers in linux support 1080p full hd | Jul 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not having problems out of it | Jul 21 20:52 |
| MinceR | s/../d?/ | Jul 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is giving me more stupid bullshit than Mandriva lately | Jul 21 20:52 |
| ender2070 | the hdmi thing is a trick question though | Jul 21 20:52 |
| MinceR | i didn't find mandriva to be anywhere near "polished" | Jul 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know whether it's more due to Mandriva getting better or Ubuntu getting worse | Jul 21 20:52 |
| ender2070 | cause you need to pay licensing to be "authorized" | Jul 21 20:52 |
| ender2070 | powerdvd will do it | Jul 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | but it is probably some of both' | Jul 21 20:53 |
| MinceR | well, ubuntu has only really seriously started the stupid bullshit recently | Jul 21 20:53 |
| MinceR | that's why i'm not dist-upgrading | Jul 21 20:53 |
| MinceR | HDCP is a waste of resources | Jul 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I installed Mandriva and left out Firefox | Jul 21 20:53 |
| ender2070 | HDCP is a money grab | Jul 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | and put in Chromium instead | Jul 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 20:53 |
| ender2070 | its all licensing | Jul 21 20:53 |
| ender2070 | you dont pay the HDCP overlords, and you aren't "Authorized" | Jul 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | and then there's no stupid indicator crapplets | Jul 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | and Pulseaudio isn't glitchy | Jul 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no Ubuntu One crap heckling me | Jul 21 20:54 |
| ender2070 | PowerDVD for Linux does it | Jul 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | and X doesn't try to restart if I kill it off intentionally | Jul 21 20:54 |
| ender2070 | Mandriva 2010.1 is good, but Fedora is better | Jul 21 20:54 |
| WireWulf | arch | Jul 21 20:54 |
| WireWulf | <3 | Jul 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | I was with Ubuntu totally up until like 8.10 | Jul 21 20:54 |
| WireWulf | tho i use to use gentoo | Jul 21 20:55 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Jul 21 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | wasn't that when that stupid crapplet took over as a second notification tray? | Jul 21 20:55 |
| WireWulf | >.> | Jul 21 20:55 |
| ender2070 | I used gentoo too | Jul 21 20:55 |
| ender2070 | I got tired of setting it up though | Jul 21 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is a total and complete mess at this point | Jul 21 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | bloated, buggy, and inconsistent | Jul 21 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | you can fix most of it, but why should you have to? | Jul 21 20:56 |
| cubezzz3 | never liked it | Jul 21 20:56 |
| WireWulf | ender2070 i made a liveCD off what i wanted on a computer and just up graded the kernel and programs | Jul 21 20:56 |
| MinceR | 214758 < DaemonFC> and then there's no stupid indicator crapplets | Jul 21 20:56 |
| MinceR | 214804 < DaemonFC> and Pulseaudio isn't glitchy | Jul 21 20:56 |
| MinceR | 214811 < DaemonFC> and there's no Ubuntu One crap heckling me | Jul 21 20:56 |
| MinceR | same is true of Debian Lenny with KDE 3.5.10 | Jul 21 20:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 21 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Jabba came to see me :P | Jul 21 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | he seems to do this about once every day | Jul 21 20:57 |
| ender2070 | anyone still using KDE 3.5.10 needs to be slapped around a bit | Jul 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | hops up on my lap and starts trying to mess with my keyboard :P | Jul 21 20:58 |
| ender2070 | slapped around a bit with the 2.0 kernel | Jul 21 20:58 |
| ender2070 | reminding them of how obsolete they will be very soon | Jul 21 20:58 |
| MinceR | ender2070: wrong | Jul 21 20:58 |
| MinceR | it's the latest stable version of KDE :> | Jul 21 20:58 |
| ender2070 | nope | Jul 21 20:58 |
| MinceR | and the emphasis is on stable | Jul 21 20:58 |
| ender2070 | its a bug fix release on something 4 years old | Jul 21 20:59 |
| ender2070 | debian style | Jul 21 20:59 |
| ender2070 | stable = old | Jul 21 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4 is still not a good fit for me | Jul 21 20:59 |
| MinceR | stable = stable | Jul 21 20:59 |
| MinceR | surprisingly enough | Jul 21 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 3 was always pretty usable | Jul 21 20:59 |
| ender2070 | old = sucks | Jul 21 20:59 |
| MinceR | ender2070: but have fun with plasma-desktop crashing all over the place | Jul 21 20:59 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah that's why I still use it | Jul 21 20:59 |
| ender2070 | it doesnt | Jul 21 20:59 |
| MinceR | and occasionally fucking up its own configuration | Jul 21 21:00 |
| ender2070 | my desktop works fine with KDE | Jul 21 21:00 |
| cubezzz3 | compiled from source even | Jul 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I used KDE 1.x even | Jul 21 21:00 |
| ender2070 | im even using 4.5 RC2 | Jul 21 21:00 |
| ender2070 | works perfectly | Jul 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 1 was just this big demented tonka toy with a giant foot that took half your screen | Jul 21 21:00 |
| cubezzz3 | but it's too memory hungry for really old systems | Jul 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | it was too ridiculous to even try to use | Jul 21 21:00 |
| ender2070 | some of us in #fedora-kde wanted to try trunk because we were bored at how stable 4.5 RC2 was | Jul 21 21:00 |
| cubezzz3 | KDE 1 was in slack 4 | Jul 21 21:01 |
| MinceR | damn, distrowatch is lying to me again | Jul 21 21:01 |
| cubezzz3 | I have the source for that too | Jul 21 21:01 |
| MinceR | they say there was no KDE in Red Hat 7 | Jul 21 21:01 |
| MinceR | wait, i misread | Jul 21 21:01 |
| MinceR | there was | Jul 21 21:01 |
| MinceR | ok, i started with KDE 1.x too :) | Jul 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/1998111902610NWSW | Jul 21 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Linux Today - Linux-Mandrake 5.2 will be released next week. .::. Size~: 76.1 KB | Jul 21 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | I had that as a boxed set | Jul 21 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | from Staples :P | Jul 21 21:02 |
| ender2070 | the oldest system I own which operates is a dual core | Jul 21 21:02 |
| WireWulf | i started with twm | Jul 21 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | I think I still have a 5.1 box set somewhere | Jul 21 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 21 21:02 |
| ender2070 | its rather trivial to run a modern desktop on it | Jul 21 21:02 |
| cubezzz3 | how long ago WireWulf? | Jul 21 21:02 |
| WireWulf | long ass time again | Jul 21 21:02 |
| WireWulf | *ago | Jul 21 21:03 |
| cubezzz3 | like before 1994? :) | Jul 21 21:03 |
| ender2070 | I started with Redhat 5.2 | Jul 21 21:03 |
| ender2070 | FVWM95 | Jul 21 21:03 |
| WireWulf | i am 21 and i dont remember a windows pc till i learned about computer at age 14 in highschool | Jul 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva is doing better with GNOME than KDE now | Jul 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | but it still defaults to KDE | Jul 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | they patched in bits of GNOME to cover up a lot of the default KDE suck and gaps | Jul 21 21:04 |
| cubezzz3 | ah, I guess I'm the oldest one here | Jul 21 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it didn't all work out so well | Jul 21 21:04 |
| WireWulf | i like blackbox/openbox/fluxbox | Jul 21 21:04 |
| MinceR | the oldest system i own that operates is a pentium mmx at 233MHz | Jul 21 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | they also got rid of the Windows Vista menu that KDE defaults to | Jul 21 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 21 21:04 |
| MinceR | it sits unused most of the time | Jul 21 21:04 |
| cubezzz3 | bah, still newish MinceR :) | Jul 21 21:04 |
| cubezzz3 | I use my 486 every day | Jul 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | [21:04] <MinceR> it sits unused most of the time | Jul 21 21:04 |
| WireWulf | and xige (tho it never passed 0.1.2 beta) | Jul 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | What does it do the rest of the time? | Jul 21 21:05 |
| MinceR | it acts as a print server and the GUI for the scanner | Jul 21 21:05 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm using it to program in X | Jul 21 21:05 |
| MinceR | as much as it does | Jul 21 21:05 |
| MinceR | it's in a bad shape | Jul 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Like Michael Moore? | Jul 21 21:05 |
| WireWulf | i got a computer with no usb ports | Jul 21 21:05 |
| WireWulf | no clue what age it is | Jul 21 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva has so much of GNOME in their KDE setup, that you may as well install GNOME too | Jul 21 21:06 |
| WireWulf | i just found it | Jul 21 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | cause most of it is already there anyway | Jul 21 21:06 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: 486s predate those, early Pentiums too | Jul 21 21:06 |
| cubezzz3 | old is pre MMU | Jul 21 21:06 |
| cubezzz3 | you got an MMU it's modern | Jul 21 21:06 |
| MinceR | i have a pre-MMU machine | Jul 21 21:06 |
| MinceR | a Sinclair ZX Spectrum | Jul 21 21:06 |
| WireWulf | i been trying to find out what it is | Jul 21 21:07 |
| MinceR | well, if it qualifies, that's the oldest system i own that _probably_ operates, but it's not a pc | Jul 21 21:07 |
| WireWulf | to see what i could do with it | Jul 21 21:07 |
| cubezzz3 | ok, let's stick to talking about machines that can run *nix | Jul 21 21:07 |
| WireWulf | MinceR i have 3 different timex-sinclairs | Jul 21 21:07 |
| ender2070 | I had a 386 SX 16mhz | Jul 21 21:08 |
| ender2070 | first pc | Jul 21 21:08 |
| WireWulf | a tandy | Jul 21 21:08 |
| MinceR | my first PC was a 386DX 40MHz, but i think it was fried by a power spike | Jul 21 21:08 |
| ender2070 | came with a 9600 baud modem, and 1mb ram | Jul 21 21:08 |
| WireWulf | and oddly anuff one comador 64 | Jul 21 21:08 |
| MinceR | got a 486SX 25MHz instead, not sure what happened to that one | Jul 21 21:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Final #ScottPilgrim book is everything you'd hope for in the end to a beloved series http://tinyurl.com/39ggrcv | Jul 21 21:08 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Final Scott Pilgrim volume: every bit as funny, but with a bunch of good emotional stuff and a satisfying wrapup - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 19.16 KB | Jul 21 21:08 |
| ender2070 | I upgraded the ram to 8mb and the modem to 14.4k | Jul 21 21:08 |
| MinceR | i think i still have an AMD K5 PR100 lying around somewhere, or a P1 120MHz (we had those two at the same time, one of them survived -- i think) | Jul 21 21:09 |
| ender2070 | I used a commodor 64 before I owned the 386 | Jul 21 21:09 |
| MinceR | the mainboard of that one automatically fries any HDD that's plugged into it | Jul 21 21:09 |
| ender2070 | schools had them | Jul 21 21:09 |
| cubezzz3 | ...and working :) | Jul 21 21:09 |
| MinceR | so i don't use it | Jul 21 21:09 |
| cubezzz3 | old clunkers that don't work don't count | Jul 21 21:09 |
| ender2070 | load 8,1 *.* | Jul 21 21:09 |
| ender2070 | or something | Jul 21 21:09 |
| MinceR | it could boot off a floppy though | Jul 21 21:10 |
| WireWulf | the oldxest timex has a lag turning on | Jul 21 21:10 |
| WireWulf | but still works | Jul 21 21:10 |
| MinceR | it was my router until i decided i want it to run off an HDD | Jul 21 21:10 |
| WireWulf | my routar is junk | Jul 21 21:11 |
| ender2070 | I own a 486 DX4 120 | Jul 21 21:11 |
| WireWulf | mmm he goldxen years of computers | Jul 21 21:11 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jul 21 21:11 | |
| ender2070 | its an amd overdrive tech chip | Jul 21 21:11 |
| WireWulf | i486 anxd te big boom in M$ | Jul 21 21:11 |
| *WireWulf thinks sparc anxd ppc processor wouldx have been better on computers tho | Jul 21 21:12 | |
| MinceR | my next router was a via epia box | Jul 21 21:12 |
| MinceR | which is now home server only | Jul 21 21:12 |
| MinceR | got a dedicated router | Jul 21 21:12 |
| cubezzz3 | Sparc is more open | Jul 21 21:12 |
| ender2070 | RISC architecture is the future! | Jul 21 21:12 |
| cubezzz3 | I'd buy one | Jul 21 21:12 |
| cubezzz3 | if the price was right | Jul 21 21:13 |
| MinceR | it was cheaper than getting a multi-port ethernet card into the one pci slot it had | Jul 21 21:13 |
| MinceR | ender2070: i wish you're right | Jul 21 21:13 |
| ender2070 | triple the speed of the pentium | Jul 21 21:13 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwg4mbGL4JE | Jul 21 21:13 |
| MinceR | there's no point in wasting die space on ancient CISC cruft | Jul 21 21:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Complete Nonsense with Crash & Burn .::. Size~: 84.15 KB | Jul 21 21:13 |
| MinceR | if you can have relatively simple wired logic and lots of registers/cache instead | Jul 21 21:13 |
| ender2070 | gotta love youtube comments | Jul 21 21:15 |
| ender2070 | "Wow, apparently a peripheral component interface bus can increase your computer's speed!" | Jul 21 21:15 |
| ender2070 | um, actually it does | Jul 21 21:15 |
| ender2070 | a lot of stuff uses the PCI bus without being an addon card | Jul 21 21:16 |
| ender2070 | the RISC comment is what makes me laugh | Jul 21 21:16 |
| WireWulf | iight now i am scared this old pc i got is a i486 xD | Jul 21 21:16 |
| ender2070 | "its a P6 chip, triple the speed of the pentium" | Jul 21 21:16 |
| MinceR | iPhone 4 Press Conference - July 16, 2010 - Antenna Issue >> (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lapu7dAtQw | Jul 21 21:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- iPhone 4 Press Conference - July 16, 2010 - Antenna Issue .::. Size~: 98.05 KB | Jul 21 21:16 |
| ender2070 | "killer fresh rate!" "its active matrix" | Jul 21 21:17 |
| MinceR | PSTN? :> | Jul 21 21:19 |
| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq11Byh5xvc | Jul 21 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Hackers Compilation .::. Size~: 101.43 KB | Jul 21 21:20 |
| WireWulf | oooh hackers | Jul 21 21:23 |
| ender2070 | I feel like watching that movie | Jul 21 21:24 |
| WireWulf | i feel like pay a whorre to let me kick her to death | Jul 21 21:25 |
| WireWulf | i dont know why | Jul 21 21:25 |
| WireWulf | but i feel it would make me feel better after listening to rap for 15 + hours aday | Jul 21 21:25 |
| *ThistleWeb patents an off button......and a switch channels button | Jul 21 21:29 | |
| ender2070 | ohhhhh | Jul 21 21:29 |
| ender2070 | rap does that to you | Jul 21 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Jul 21 21:30 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Jul 21 21:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ZDNet is reposting months old articles from other sites (compare http://ur1.ca/wyqw ; http://ur1.ca/0t50i ). ZDNet stopped news years ago. | Jul 21 21:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: 10 MORE outstanding Firefox extensions | 10 Things | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 77.18 KB | Jul 21 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ten extensions that give Firefox new reach | Workspace IT | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 40.88 KB | Jul 21 21:33 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[ender2070/@ender2070] ♻ @pkrf1end: Reading about Ex-MI5 Spy Chief: No Link Between Hussein, 9/11 - http://2tu.us/2hng | Jul 21 21:40 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ex-MI5 Spy Chief: No Link Between Hussein, 9/11 : NPR .::. Size~: 53.66 KB | Jul 21 21:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-improve.html | Jul 21 22:00 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How to improve Ubuntu .::. Size~: 18.81 KB | Jul 21 22:00 |
| schestowitz | install kde? | Jul 21 22:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] FLOSS as Commons - http://bit.ly/aQgqo9 well, yes; pity he seems not to have read "rebel code"... #commons #freesw #history | Jul 21 22:00 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Expanding the Circle? | On the Commons .::. Size~: 28.12 KB | Jul 21 22:00 |
| ender2070 | :) | Jul 21 22:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] I liked a YouTube video -- [GUADEC2010] Neelie Kroes on open source and the importance ... http://youtu.be/ok100U4Fo3Y?a | Jul 21 22:03 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Running through ICE....Loving what I'm seeing so far....! #peppermint #linux #foss #distro | Jul 21 22:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- [GUADEC2010] Neelie Kroes on open source and the imp... http://youtu.be/ok100U4Fo3Y?a | Jul 21 22:08 | |
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| schestowitz | http://ubuntuarmy.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/a-worrying-trend-ubuntu-the-next-apple/ | Jul 21 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: A Worrying trend: Ubuntu the next Apple? « The Ubuntu Army .::. Size~: 44.84 KB | Jul 21 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.workswithu.com/2010/07/16/memo-to-canonical-time-to-revive-ubuntu-live-conference/ | Jul 21 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Memo to Canonical: Time to Revive Ubuntu Live Conference | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 40.85 KB | Jul 21 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.e-pao.net/GP.asp?src=11..180710.jul10 | Jul 21 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Govt to procure 75,000 laptops under OLPC scheme : 18th jul10 ~ E-Pao! Headlines .::. Size~: 27.17 KB | Jul 21 22:14 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Jul 21 22:14 |
| ender2070 | GNU/PwnageOS ? | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | The Ubuntu Software Center will feature software which you are able to purchase. | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like the same thing as all the other’s right? | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 22:16 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntuarmy.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/a-worrying-trend-ubuntu-the-next-apple/ | Jul 21 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | Mac Asay would get hard just reading this headline | Jul 21 22:16 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Jul 21 22:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 22:17 |
| MinceR | you've done it, now he'll come in and whine to you :> | Jul 21 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry, no fuss | Jul 21 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Not when you have an all-body underwear | Jul 21 22:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 22:17 |
| ender2070 | 'apple doesn't give me a hard on! I have erectile dis-function!' | Jul 21 22:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 21 22:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cbfgmorIGE | Jul 21 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | KDE's flagship conference Akademy Concludes: Pushing for Elegance and the Mobile Space - http://ev.kde.org/announcements/2010-07-16-akademy2010-concludes.php | Jul 21 22:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: KDE e.V. - KDE's flagship conference Akademy Concludes: Pushing for Elegance and the Mobile Space .::. Size~: 11.25 KB | Jul 21 22:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK Cinema takings at record high - http://bit.ly/cemS5i time to repeal that costly & unnecessary #DEAct, no? (via @lilianedwards) #piracy | Jul 21 22:24 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Cinema takings at record high | Business | The Guardian .::. Size~: 75.45 KB | Jul 21 22:24 |
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| MinceR | http://gizmodo.com/5592521/how-a-guy-tricked-apple-with-a-disguised-iphone-tethering-app | Jul 21 22:45 |
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| MinceR | lulz | Jul 21 22:45 |
| cubezzz3 | my new name for Windows is Brobdingnagian OS | Jul 21 22:50 |
| ender2070 | cubezzz3 - run the 'mount' command without perameters | Jul 21 22:52 |
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| ender2070 | parameters* | Jul 21 22:52 |
| ender2070 | you should see this: sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) | Jul 21 22:52 |
| ender2070 | http://gizmodo.com/5592521/how-a-guy-tricked-apple-with-a-disguised-iphone-tethering-app <----- Jesus wrote this article | Jul 21 22:54 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jul 21 23:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #GNU #Linux Advocacy, #Kernel Space News http://techrights.org/2010/07/21/gnu-linux-news-items/ | Jul 21 23:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | sweet :P | Jul 21 23:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Even Microsoft-watch.com doesn't seem excited by #Windows Mobile 7: http://tinyurl.com/3xudyv4 #microsoft #mvpbuzz #mvp | Jul 21 23:27 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft Watch - Desktop & Mobile - Windows Phone 7: D.O.A.? .::. Size~: 40.41 KB | Jul 21 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 21 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | much better | Jul 21 23:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Finally. VodafoneDE gave me #froyo. Let's Explore After the Breslau #needsleep | Jul 21 23:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #KDE SC News (Including #Akademy 2010), Distribution Reviews, and Upside for #RedHat http://ur1.ca/0t69h | Jul 21 23:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Mandriva's US mirrors are all messed up | Jul 21 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | I finally settled on a set from Poland | Jul 21 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 21 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MeeGo Harmed by Junk Intel/x86 Drivers, OLPC Makes Another Step (Despite Intel Fighting It), Android Grows in Tablets http://ur1.ca/0t6ds | Jul 21 23:53 | |
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