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schestowitzDaemonFC: monarchy is not functionalJul 24 00:00
schestowitzIt's ceremonial, like US presidencyJul 24 00:00
schestowitzThe US got itself a black-white spokesmanJul 24 00:00
DaemonFChow much of your tax money is spent on the Queen's excesses?Jul 24 00:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz and this is exactly why we must have laws (however badly enforced sometimes) to protect data or IP.Jul 24 00:00
schestowitzBut the US queen changes every 4 or 8 yearsJul 24 00:00
schestowitzUnless the Queen is caught in a scandalJul 24 00:00
schestowitzThe last one that was impeached for it was also a alcoholicJul 24 00:00
DaemonFCClinton?Jul 24 00:01
DaemonFCClinton was impeachedJul 24 00:01
DaemonFCunless you refer to Andrew JacksonJul 24 00:01
DaemonFCwho was also impeachedJul 24 00:01
schestowitzResigned prematurelyJul 24 00:02
schestowitzQueen NixonJul 24 00:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin see recent WordPress controversy. WP could buy the template and then legally share itJul 24 00:02
schestowitzRun by gangsters like KissingerJul 24 00:02
DaemonFCerrr Johnson I meanJul 24 00:02
DaemonFCyes, there have been two impeachments in US historyJul 24 00:02
DaemonFCbut neither were removed from officeJul 24 00:03
DaemonFCbecause the Senate did not convictJul 24 00:03
DaemonFCit's interesting because in an impeachment trial, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the SenateJul 24 00:04
DaemonFCwhich is the only time that can happenJul 24 00:04
ender2070[18:53] <schestowitz> DaemonFC: monarchy is not functional <--------------- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJul 24 00:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Apple vs. iPhone 4" http://ur1.ca/0tpyz Someone in Apple should be put in a case over thisJul 24 00:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Tech Comics: "Apple vs. iPhone 4" &mdash; Datamation.com .::. Size~: 81.76 KBJul 24 00:05
DaemonFCit's just rather stylishJul 24 00:05
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 00:05
DaemonFCHelluuuuuuuuu!Jul 24 00:05
DaemonFC:PJul 24 00:05
ender2070yeah, the british empire is just going to give away all its landJul 24 00:05
ender2070for the people!Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFCthere's a British Empire?Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFCsince when did that come back?Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 00:06
ender2070it was renamedJul 24 00:06
schestowitzPrincess Diana has many things called after hereJul 24 00:06
ender2070CommonwealthJul 24 00:06
schestowitz*herJul 24 00:06
DaemonFCdidn't the Soviets do that too?Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFCCommonwealth of Independent StatesJul 24 00:06
schestowitzSome people sell t-shirts with her in Piccadilly SquareJul 24 00:06
ender2070see how his mind diverts the issue?Jul 24 00:07
ender2070people don't want it to be trueJul 24 00:07
ender2070but it isJul 24 00:07
ender2070legally, and thats all it mattersJul 24 00:07
DaemonFCender2070: The United Nations Security Council shouldn't have permanent membersJul 24 00:07
DaemonFCbut the UK is probably the least qualified for such a positionJul 24 00:07
DaemonFCof the current membersJul 24 00:07
schestowitzSo commonwealth is a sharing-esque euphemism?Jul 24 00:08
ender2070whats with all these royal charters being given to freemasonry and similar organizations?Jul 24 00:08
DaemonFCI vote to replace the UK with the Empire of MinceRstanJul 24 00:08
DaemonFCender2070: Will you second the motion?Jul 24 00:08
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 00:08
ender2070I dunno, do you really think these royal families who have ruled various empires just became the 'good guys' all of a sudden?Jul 24 00:09
DaemonFCI prefer benevolent dictatorsJul 24 00:10
DaemonFCto monarchsJul 24 00:10
ender2070'we just gave away all our power, we can't really do much anymore'Jul 24 00:10
DaemonFCat least they tell the truth about what they areJul 24 00:10
ender2070how fucking stupid are people?Jul 24 00:10
DaemonFCself-appointed, lifetime positionJul 24 00:10
DaemonFCabsolute powerJul 24 00:10
ender2070these would have to be the most retarded monarchs in historyJul 24 00:10
DaemonFCender2070: I dunno, you tend to sign things under sufficient duress that you wouldn't normally be predisposed to Jul 24 00:11
DaemonFC:DJul 24 00:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Im not familiar with that, I will look into it.Jul 24 00:11
ender2070lolJul 24 00:11
ender2070marxist trudeau was apparently anti-monarch but did nothing to remove her powerJul 24 00:12
DaemonFChmmm, sign it and keep my position by title or get my head cut off?Jul 24 00:12
DaemonFCdecisions decisionsJul 24 00:12
ender2070thats hardly what happened in CanadaJul 24 00:12
ender2070we wrote the queen a letter explaining that the voting process here was corrupt and wanted changesJul 24 00:13
DaemonFCand did she bring you some CHANGE?Jul 24 00:13
ender2070yesJul 24 00:13
DaemonFCsome HOPE maybe?Jul 24 00:13
ender2070'responsible government'Jul 24 00:13
DaemonFCsome HOPE for a CHANGE?Jul 24 00:13
ender2070instead of having armed thugs beat people to death who didnt shout out the right candidate, we get lobbyists buying politiciansJul 24 00:14
DaemonFCnow when you say "responsible government", is it with a smirk?Jul 24 00:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 00:14
ender2070thats how democracy started hereJul 24 00:14
ender2070people would shout who they wantedJul 24 00:14
DaemonFCI vote for me!Jul 24 00:15
ender2070the candidate with the most money usually hired thugs to beat, err convince people he was the best candidateJul 24 00:15
DaemonFCactually, I have voted for myself beforeJul 24 00:15
DaemonFC:PJul 24 00:15
DaemonFCbut only when I was the most qualified candidateJul 24 00:15
DaemonFCso it's happened a few timesJul 24 00:15
ender2070http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsible_governmentJul 24 00:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Responsible government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 39.6 KBJul 24 00:16
DaemonFCender2070: I thought about running for Circuit Court judgeJul 24 00:16
DaemonFCthat doesn't require you to have a law degreeJul 24 00:16
DaemonFChttp://www.huntington.in.us/county/circuitcourt/Jul 24 00:17
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBJul 24 00:17
DaemonFC:DJul 24 00:17
schestowitzhuntington - the Detroit of IndianaJul 24 00:17
schestowitzhuntington - where Detroitians come for rehab :-)Jul 24 00:18
DaemonFChttp://www.huntington.in.us/county/department/?fDD=48-0Jul 24 00:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Huntington, IN | Circuit Court .::. Size~: 9.63 KBJul 24 00:18
schestowitzhttp://blogs.forbes.com/firewall/2010/07/13/millions-of-home-routers-vulnerable-to-web-hack/Jul 24 00:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Millions Of Home Routers Vulnerable To Web Hack «  The Firewall - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 35.89 KBJul 24 00:18
schestowitzMiami - where rich people come to be buriedJul 24 00:19
DaemonFChttp://www.huntington.in.us/egov/apps/directory/list.egov?path=pro&usr=95Jul 24 00:19
TechrightsBotTitle: City of Huntington: Staff Directory .::. Size~: 11.34 KBJul 24 00:19
schestowitzDetroit - where baby machines come for welfareJul 24 00:19
DaemonFCmy landlord is banging the Superior Court judgeJul 24 00:19
DaemonFC(a Republican)Jul 24 00:19
DaemonFC(who also drives drunk a lot)Jul 24 00:19
schestowitzbanging?Jul 24 00:19
DaemonFCoh yeahJul 24 00:19
schestowitzGangsta talk?Jul 24 00:19
DaemonFCscrewing Jul 24 00:20
DaemonFCpoachingJul 24 00:20
DaemonFCfuckingJul 24 00:20
schestowitzGetting downJul 24 00:20
DaemonFC:PJul 24 00:20
DaemonFCsexual relationsJul 24 00:20
schestowitzSo maybe he likes herJul 24 00:20
DaemonFCHeffelfinger is more of a criminal than the criminals he sentencesJul 24 00:20
DaemonFCit's a same-sex off the record sexual relationshipJul 24 00:21
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 00:21
schestowitzPolice is a place for violent peopleJul 24 00:21
DaemonFCthere is no "her" involvedJul 24 00:21
schestowitzYou choose teams thoughJul 24 00:21
schestowitzYou can play for the police or the other teamJul 24 00:21
DaemonFCmy landlord was on Manhunt a while backJul 24 00:22
DaemonFClolJul 24 00:22
schestowitzGay *andJul 24 00:22
DaemonFChe deleted his profile when I winked at himJul 24 00:22
schestowitzGay *and* republicanJul 24 00:22
DaemonFC:PJul 24 00:22
schestowitz?Jul 24 00:22
DaemonFCyepJul 24 00:22
schestowitzDoes not computeJul 24 00:22
schestowitzNext thing you'll say one of them is black tooJul 24 00:22
DaemonFChid his gayness and is a member of the only electable party in HuntingtonJul 24 00:22
DaemonFCdoes it compute now?Jul 24 00:22
DaemonFCpeople here don't even look at the candidatesJul 24 00:23
DaemonFCthey slap "Republican" and cast a party ballotJul 24 00:23
ender2070usually they follow their own political ideologyJul 24 00:24
DaemonFCIf I ran as a Republican for some vacant office, I would winJul 24 00:24
DaemonFCnobody would see me, they'd see the (R)Jul 24 00:24
ender2070go for itJul 24 00:24
schestowitzAre you nuts?Jul 24 00:25
schestowitzThey don't deserve tyrantJul 24 00:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: How do you think we got Updike?Jul 24 00:25
ender2070it's not like you need any credentials to runJul 24 00:25
schestowitzDaemonFC needs a shrink, not the public officeJul 24 00:25
DaemonFCand Abbett before Updike?Jul 24 00:25
schestowitzHe has a tacheJul 24 00:25
DaemonFCAbbett didn'tJul 24 00:26
ender2070you just have to be very bureaucratic and have a penchant  for paperworkJul 24 00:26
DaemonFCwe was just a big fat pigJul 24 00:26
DaemonFCand a criminalJul 24 00:26
schestowitzHe went around promosing mates favours if they fund his campaign and then he passed the  $$ to Edelman to brush up his image in WIipedia etc.Jul 24 00:26
DaemonFCand a liarJul 24 00:26
DaemonFCand a dirty rotten no good rat bastardJul 24 00:26
schestowitz[00:26] <DaemonFC> we was just a big fat pigJul 24 00:27
schestowitzSo have Jabba run for officeJul 24 00:27
schestowitzJabba would do nothing, i.e. perform betterJul 24 00:27
schestowitzPeopel vote for the (R)Jul 24 00:28
DaemonFChttp://www.wane.com/dpp/news/former-huntington-mayor-to-run-againJul 24 00:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Former Huntington Mayor Wants Job Back .::. Size~: 33.46 KBJul 24 00:28
schestowitzJust hide the cat photo till after the electionJul 24 00:28
schestowitzMarry Jabba in GermanyJul 24 00:28
schestowitzWhere it's possibleJul 24 00:28
schestowitzThen get back to the US and say in Jabba's martial status "married" [with kiddens]Jul 24 00:28
schestowitzBuy another cat for Jabba to cheat on youJul 24 00:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: You saw those squirrelsJul 24 00:29
DaemonFCand rabbitsJul 24 00:29
DaemonFCthat they're using as beer bottlesJul 24 00:29
schestowitzYeah :-)Jul 24 00:29
DaemonFCI was considering selling Jabba for use as a kegJul 24 00:29
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 00:29
schestowitzMe tooJul 24 00:29
schestowitzI'd buy himJul 24 00:29
schestowitzJust for bonfire nightJul 24 00:29
schestowitzGetting drunkJul 24 00:29
schestowitzThen tossing the bottle at the fire :-)Jul 24 00:29
schestowitzThe bottle would not meltJul 24 00:30
schestowitzI want the bottle, not the damn JabbaJul 24 00:30
DaemonFCUpdike says Abbett has been "in the closet for a long time"Jul 24 00:30
DaemonFClolJul 24 00:30
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schestowitzthe poor jabba stands in the way of a relatively valuable 5 cent bottle depositJul 24 00:32
DaemonFC"If he's blaming me for the unemployment, then he's sadly been in a closet for a long time..."Jul 24 00:32
DaemonFC-UpdikeJul 24 00:32
schestowitzHehJul 24 00:32
schestowitzWas he?Jul 24 00:32
schestowitzAs Carlin say, people say, "he's OPENYL gay"Jul 24 00:32
schestowitzBut not "OPENLY black"Jul 24 00:32
schestowitzOr "Happens to be"Jul 24 00:32
schestowitzLike it's an accidentJul 24 00:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: I ran into the mayor during the power outageJul 24 00:33
DaemonFCof course had I known he'd be there, I may have ran over him insteadJul 24 00:33
DaemonFCb-)Jul 24 00:33
DaemonFCthat guy is an idiot, every time he talks it's like "What the hell did that even mean?"Jul 24 00:34
DaemonFCand yet he gets re-electedJul 24 00:34
schestowitzThis is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8eE6k5ktYoJul 24 00:35
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Penetrating Teenage Girls' Brains .::. Size~: 115.94 KBJul 24 00:35
schestowitzYou MUST watch itJul 24 00:35
DaemonFCuhhhmJul 24 00:36
DaemonFCmy video driver blacked out over "brains"Jul 24 00:36
DaemonFCthe black rectangle bugJul 24 00:36
DaemonFCthat looked "wrong" for a momentJul 24 00:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's targeted at girls aged 9-14Jul 24 00:38
DaemonFCI would have said "But for some reason, the demographic is 50 year old men"Jul 24 00:38
DaemonFC"Moving right along..."Jul 24 00:38
schestowitz"Beach buff.."Jul 24 00:39
DaemonFConly time will tell!Jul 24 00:40
DaemonFCwhat drug you're addicted to when your career fucking collapses!Jul 24 00:40
DaemonFC:DJul 24 00:40
schestowitzYEahJul 24 00:41
schestowitzThat's trueJul 24 00:41
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sebsebseb Jul 24 00:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Im over in #peppermint on spotchat.org come and join me! #linux #foss #linuxJul 24 00:45
schestowitz Jul 24 00:46
schestowitzsebsebseb: you got mentioned in OMG!Jul 24 00:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: yes once I haveJul 24 00:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: when it was user daysJul 24 00:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: Is that what you are refering to?Jul 24 00:48
schestowitzNiJul 24 00:49
schestowitzNoJul 24 00:49
schestowitzUbuntu adJul 24 00:49
sebsebsebWhat?Jul 24 00:49
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/best-advert-for-ubuntu-you-probably.htmlJul 24 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: I don't advertise Ubuntu anymore :)Jul 24 00:49
TechrightsBotTitle: The best advert for Ubuntu you probably never saw | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 65.1 KBJul 24 00:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ok thats not meJul 24 00:50
sebsebsebthats some other SebastianJul 24 00:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: Maybe I should  do my first comment  on that site, with the above :DJul 24 00:53
schestowitzhttp://compgroups.net/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Microsoft-caused-BP-oil-spillJul 24 00:55
TechrightsBotTitle:     Microsoft caused BP oil spill!    -    comp.os.linux.advocacy    |    Computer Group .::. Size~: 40.72 KBJul 24 00:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Anxious to hear, really! ♺ The Daft Punk soundtrack for Tron may just be the most exciting thing of 2010. For me, anyway.Jul 24 00:55
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cubezzz3no computer opponent for connect 4Jul 24 00:57
cubezzz3so much for newer linux distrosJul 24 00:57
cubezzz3but maybe there's a good program I've missedJul 24 00:57
cubezzz3have you noticed the startup times on some KDE programs?Jul 24 00:58
cubezzz3sloooowJul 24 00:58
schestowitzgnJul 24 00:58
cubezzz3laterzJul 24 00:59
amarsh04night schestowitzJul 24 01:11
amarsh04cubeszzz3, do you do prelinking after installing packages/updates?Jul 24 01:11
amarsh04or is it run as a cron job?Jul 24 01:11
cubezzz3hmmm?Jul 24 01:13
cubezzz3you're kidding right?Jul 24 01:13
cubezzz3ctcp meJul 24 01:13
amarsh04At least from the KDE 3 days, I found prelinking to speed up startup times significantlyJul 24 01:14
cubezzz3oh rightJul 24 01:14
cubezzz3hmmm, i compiled KDE from source but I don't remember the exact detailsJul 24 01:14
amarsh04do you have the prelink package installed?Jul 24 01:14
cubezzz3I have /usr/sbin/prelinkJul 24 01:15
cubezzz3so probably :)Jul 24 01:15
amarsh04give it a run as prelink -av and see what it tells youJul 24 01:15
cubezzz3okJul 24 01:16
cubezzz3quite a number of "Could not parse" messagesJul 24 01:18
amarsh04hmmm, haven't had that oneJul 24 01:19
amarsh04I notice that many kde programs take a while to prelinkJul 24 01:19
cubezzz3I think I run prelink in cron actuallyJul 24 01:20
amarsh04ah okJul 24 01:20
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Z42mKf98IJul 24 01:20
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Teens Are Idiots .::. Size~: 114.52 KBJul 24 01:20
cubezzz3on really old stuff I avoid KDE entirelyJul 24 01:20
amarsh04I only ran kde in the first place because I wanted to run quantaJul 24 01:21
amarsh04and one of the reasons for running gnu/linux was for running gnumericJul 24 01:21
cubezzz3amarsh04, more memory would probably help a lot tooJul 24 01:21
cubezzz3this box is only 256+64 megsJul 24 01:21
amarsh04yes, this pii-266 with 384 MiB RAM is ok for kde 3Jul 24 01:22
cubezzz3which distro?Jul 24 01:22
amarsh04320 MiB ram is about minimum for kde 3Jul 24 01:22
amarsh04DebianJul 24 01:22
DaemonFCI run into problems with Konqueror on some Youtube videosJul 24 01:22
cubezzz3I also have a p3 800 that runs KDE 3.5.10Jul 24 01:22
DaemonFCwould be nice if it had a Firefox Tab add-onJul 24 01:23
cubezzz3but you know, I actually like 3.4.2 a bit betterJul 24 01:23
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 01:23
cubezzz3amarsh04, I'm a bit of an anachronism in that I still program with XlibJul 24 01:24
cubezzz3barely anyone wants to even talk about Xlib nowJul 24 01:24
DaemonFCI like his explanation of internet porn in the 90sJul 24 01:26
DaemonFC:PJul 24 01:26
amarsh04I haven't ever programmed in C so you're ahead of me (-:Jul 24 01:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WaPo expose of the US shadow-state smothered. Time to take the gloves off if we want reform. http://bit.ly/cTJn7vJul 24 01:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 157.69 KBJul 24 01:28
DaemonFC"One of us, one of us, you will become one of us!"Jul 24 01:30
DaemonFC"You're an adult now. Here's your mortgage, here's your SUV, and here's a couple annoying kids of your own to worry about!"Jul 24 01:31
DaemonFClolJul 24 01:31
DaemonFCschestowitz: Have you ever applied those unofficial KDE upgrades to Mandriva?Jul 24 01:31
DaemonFCand did they blow up your system?Jul 24 01:31
sebsebsebDaemonFC: He went to bedJul 24 01:33
DaemonFCahhhJul 24 01:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Well The Canonical  Clock looks sucky, but I haven't tried it in a virtual machine yet. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/meerkats-new-clock-applet-adds-calendar.htmlJul 24 01:36
TechrightsBotTitle: meerkat's new clock applet adds Calendar widget | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 65.1 KBJul 24 01:36
cubezzz3rlock is all you need reallyJul 24 01:37
cubezzz3from the rxvt packageJul 24 01:37
sebsebsebcubezzz3: I don't know about that oneJul 24 01:38
cubezzz3plus I have like a dozen time keepers in this room Jul 24 01:38
cubezzz3sebsebseb, nice and low memory, efficientJul 24 01:38
sebsebsebalso Canonicals doesn't do weather like the Gnome one doesJul 24 01:38
sebsebsebhowever some Ubuntu fan boys have been working on a weather appletJul 24 01:38
cubezzz3sorry, rclock I should sayJul 24 01:38
cubezzz3programs get overly elaborate over timeJul 24 01:39
sebsebsebwhat you mean overly elaborate over time?Jul 24 01:39
cubezzz3bloatedJul 24 01:39
cubezzz3with features you never even useJul 24 01:39
sebsebsebyeah I guess so, but mainly for commercial softwareJul 24 01:40
cubezzz3even in FOSS...Jul 24 01:40
sebsebsebLinux kernel is a bit bloated though, or so they sayJul 24 01:40
sebsebsebI mean Linux kernel is bloatedJul 24 01:40
sebsebsebthats what they seem to be sayingJul 24 01:40
cubezzz3it's trueJul 24 01:41
cubezzz3it gets bigger and bigger, unless you revert to an older kernel or compile one yourselfJul 24 01:41
cubezzz3do I need st or osst?Jul 24 01:41
sebsebseband KDE apps bloat as wellJul 24 01:41
cubezzz3of course not :)Jul 24 01:41
cubezzz3certainlyJul 24 01:41
cubezzz3sebsebseb, my first gui was on Amiga 500Jul 24 01:42
cubezzz3you know how much memory I had?Jul 24 01:42
cubezzz3512K :)Jul 24 01:42
cubezzz3now 2,000X the memory on some computersJul 24 01:43
cubezzz3the point is, hardly anyone tries to be efficientJul 24 01:43
cubezzz3hence we have bloatJul 24 01:44
ender2070its not bloatedJul 24 02:12
ender2070its only bloated if your computer is 10+ years oldJul 24 02:13
ender2070that's no excuse either to be a dick, buy a fucking p4 already before they end up in a landfillJul 24 02:17
ender2070sub $100Jul 24 02:18
ender2070easilyJul 24 02:18
ender2070if $100 is too much for you, you cant really complain if people leave you in the dust with their rapidly evolving softwareJul 24 02:19
ender2070i have a palm tx, easily 2x the speed of your 486Jul 24 02:20
ender2070my cell phone, probably 6xJul 24 02:20
ender2070i could probably emulate a faster 486 on itJul 24 02:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] at nzm platform, waiting for my train.Jul 24 02:37
tessierhttp://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/23/india.thirty.five.dollar.laptop/index.html?hpt=SbinJul 24 02:38
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tessierThe Linux-based computer is equipped with an Internet browser, a PDF reader and several other facilities, she said.Jul 24 02:38
tessierPotentially hundreds of millions could be deployed.Jul 24 02:38
tessierSure would put the OLPC in its place.Jul 24 02:38
amarsh04my slightly tweaked vanilla Debian 2.6.35-rc5 kernel is 2558 kilobytes executable codeJul 24 02:39
amarsh04and 1248 kilobytes read-only dataJul 24 02:40
DaemonFChttp://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7821/snapshot5x.pngJul 24 03:03
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DaemonFCheheJul 24 03:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Alvaro vs. Pedro http://ff.im/obAOMJul 24 03:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] OLPC Stall Pics ((nogallary)) http://post.ly/oWkEJul 24 03:26
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ender2070[21:18] <Kevin_Kofler> ender2070: Tell him even his BASIC Linux won't run on your abacus. ^^Jul 24 03:47
ender2070:DJul 24 03:47
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schestowitzhttp://madhatter.ca/2010/07/23/rona-ambrose-wants-to-take-action-on-honor-killings/Jul 24 06:53
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schestowitzSMPlayer and GNOME Mplayer - Two Incredibly Good Mplayer Based Media Players For Ubuntu http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/07/smplayer-and-gnome-mplayer-two.htmlJul 24 06:57
TechrightsBotTitle: SMPlayer and GNOME Mplayer - Two Incredibly Good Mplayer Based Media Players For Ubuntu | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 40.25 KBJul 24 06:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] For well over a year I posted many links to many sites with Linux/FS news. I hope the new 'format' is still acceptable.Jul 24 07:04
schestowitzhttp://www.skipsjunk.net/gallery/china01.htmlJul 24 07:04
schestowitzhttp://280.status.net/notice/284996 "to understand the harm google is doing, ignore the technology, focus on the actions and not the method"Jul 24 07:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Data: A typical furore over when data should be published - http://bit.ly/9MMjh3 "we need a clear basis for discussing data" good stuffJul 24 07:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Desperate Perl Hacker - http://bit.ly/amI1Rq nice historical meditation on Perl past and Perl present #perlJul 24 07:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Are the knives out for Microsoft's Steve Ballmer? - http://bit.ly/alBBi7 gotta be #microsoft #ballmerJul 24 07:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Hot News Showing Up Everywhere: Costco Sued For 'Violating' Hot News In Publishing Market Data - http://bit.ly/b3SJkM pernicious conceptJul 24 07:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Breaking Open the Video Frontier, Despite MPEG-LA - http://bit.ly/dCT2qu let's hope #video #patentsJul 24 07:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @satipera: WPA2 vulnerability found http://is.gd/dEbLm #securityJul 24 07:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] 3D Printer Benchmark Announced - http://bit.ly/bGPe3P interesting, but not sure how useful it is #3dprinter #benchmarksJul 24 08:04
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schestowitzHeh. Remix: http://tinyogg.com/watch/52oLM/Jul 24 08:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] GPLv3 now dominates at Google Code - http://bit.ly/b51tRr big triumph for GPLv3: many were sceptical about its chances #gpl #googleJul 24 08:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Blender 2.53 Beta out - http://bit.ly/7IQNdE "Big improvements: used extensively in production of the Durian open movie project "Sintel"."Jul 24 08:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #KDevelop 4.0.1, #GNOME 3... http://techrights.org/2010/07/24/kdevelop-gnome-3/Jul 24 08:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #NASA and Free Software, Implantable Medical Devices Need Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/0tsrfJul 24 09:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Not so false ♺ @guardiannews: Top story: Deepwater Horizon alarms were switched off 'to help workers sleep' http://bit.ly/cZizz9 #BPoilspillJul 24 09:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 24/7/2010: Rights, Copyrights, and How to Install WebM (Video) http://techrights.org/2010/07/24/how-to-install-webm/Jul 24 09:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Sub-$20 GNU/Linux Laptop? http://ur1.ca/0tsun A look at the GNU/Linux-powered gadget which can revolutionise affordable computingJul 24 09:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HP Dumps #Vista7 for #Linux , Hires Vice President From Microsoft as Software Head, Then Brings Back Vista 7 http://ur1.ca/0tt09Jul 24 09:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google and #Mozilla Encourage Bug Spotting, #Microsoft Does Not http://ur1.ca/0tt1g #security #bugsJul 24 10:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @jackofkent Met/IPCC/CPS triangle seems to allow coppers to get away with anything, as Treasury/FSA/BoE triangle allowed bankers>>indeedJul 24 10:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] 10 Reasons to dump Windows and use GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/0tt8gJul 24 10:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.slashgear.com/motorola-deny-efuse-android-bricking-intent-1694195/Jul 24 10:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Why Microsoft Windows should never be used for mission critical applications http://ur1.ca/0ttdu #failJul 24 11:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] LG Optimus. Eindelijk een betaalbare Android Smartphone met alles er op en er aan http://ur1.ca/0ttn3Jul 24 11:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Apple airport express sux0r. But I found the real WEP key. So online again.Jul 24 12:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Eight free open source books - http://bit.ly/biwhDD free books about free software #ebooks #freeswJul 24 12:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Sitting down to hear @thepublicdomain's keynote at #orgconJul 24 12:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] There was a time when monopoly was held credible: "Without monopolies, no one will trade with India!"Jul 24 12:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Last tweet was @thepublicdomain, #orgconJul 24 12:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @qwghlm As a warning to #ORGCon attendees: Farringdon & Barbican tube stations shut, use Angel insteadJul 24 12:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] The right-click-universe assumption - why can't I right-click on a building to find out when it was built #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] We assume that info retrieval tools will always be created to mash up and make sense of our surroundings #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Paradox: absent CC/etc, none of us will be able to share/use/mix anything made by our contemporaries in our life #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] looks like lots of good stuff from lots of great people at #orgcon: pity I couldn't be there...Jul 24 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] For the 1st time in human history, all the works produced by our contemporaries are inaccessible to us #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Prior to 1978, 85% of works went into PD after 28 yrs b/c most authors didn't think it was worth renewing (c) #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Most works exhaust all commercial viability in 5 years #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Of works in British Library > 28 yrs old, only 3-5% are commercially availableJul 24 12:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Retrospective copyright extension cuts us off from our own culture to benefit no oneJul 24 12:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @footage Boomers can legally share/use/mix much of their own history after 28 yrs. "Genx&Millennials" can't. Copyright discriminates.Jul 24 12:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Infradumb: the idea that any use of any work that might be copyrighted, no matter how sleight, must have permission #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] If industry norms on copyright clearance were given as exam answers in law school, you'd flunk out #orgcon @thepublicdomainJul 24 12:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @technollama James Boyle in amazing form at #orgconJul 24 12:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @owenblacker Our educators' understanding of (c) akin to playground understanding of sex @thepublicdomain #ORGconJul 24 12:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Why not say "Hell with it. (C) is dumb ignore it." B/c culture's viability shouldn't be dependent on lawlessness @thepublicdomain #ORGconJul 24 13:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Copyright maximalists have created a generation of lawbreakers, some guilty, some joyful. This is a great harm @thepublicdomain #ORGconJul 24 13:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @record_industry: #orgcon I hate you all.Jul 24 13:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Prior to GOOG Book Search, books had been transformed into the least accessible place to put information @thepublicdomain #ORGconJul 24 13:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] I hoarded optimism during the dotcom boom. There was a lot of it going around. @thepublicdomain #ORGconJul 24 13:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @doctorow Of works in British Library > 28 yrs old, only 3-5% are commercially available >> and they put Microsoft's #DRM on itJul 24 13:23
schestowitzThose front groups of BMG/Sony/Warner/Universal can conveniently be lumped together and called MAFIAA. It's both comical and informative, IMHO.Jul 24 13:26
schestowitzlinux.com still promotes proprietary software http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/328965:evernote-gets-built-in-third-party-app-directoryJul 24 13:38
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20011036-92.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20Jul 24 13:51
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schestowitzRIP OcarinaJul 24 13:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] New Zealand software patents: abolition isn't certain. http://bit.ly/bSPiFa There'll be patents on devices w/ 'embedded' software.Jul 24 13:52
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schestowitzhttp://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/22/oracle-plans-to-double-acquisition-budget/Jul 24 14:03
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schestowitzhttp://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/biz-enterprise/332371:oracle-has-70bn-five-year-acquisition-planJul 24 14:03
oiaohmhttp://politics.slashdot.org/story/10/07/24/0517212/Australian-Enterprises-Block-Sex-Partys-Political-Site   Hows your filters schestowitzJul 24 14:06
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ZiomatrixHP PR announces it intends to going full monty for Linux-based WebOS on smartphones: http://tinyurl.com/2b47havJul 24 14:09
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schestowitzoiaohm: my filter or the filters _on_ me?Jul 24 14:11
schestowitzGroklaw used to be blocked in some countriesJul 24 14:11
schestowitzZiomatrix: moments ago I found http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20010984-1.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20 http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/45202Jul 24 14:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/graffiti-for-android-scribbles-palm-os-memories-all-over-google/Jul 24 14:12
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*schestowitz still uses GraffitiJul 24 14:12
oiaohmI was just in a warped mood.   schestowitzJul 24 14:13
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Android has really done a good job wooing away what made the classic Palm OS iconic, from Docs2Go to Graffiti nowJul 24 14:13
oiaohmThe idea that a political site ends up filtered due to is name is funny.Jul 24 14:13
oiaohmThinking that the sex party here in australia is not even new.Jul 24 14:14
schestowitzI know this party from one thingJul 24 14:14
schestowitzSome article I read about them working to make pr0n with squirting legalJul 24 14:14
schestowitzAustralia has weird lawsJul 24 14:14
Ziomatrixschestowitz: losing Graffiti is the result of the fallout between PalmSource (now ACCESS) and PalmOne (now Palm.inc, bought by HP)Jul 24 14:14
schestowitzIIRC, women with small breasts are illegal pr0n thereJul 24 14:15
schestowitzAs if women who are less endowed are children or somethingJul 24 14:15
schestowitzZiomatrix: you mean "WAS ACCESS"Jul 24 14:15
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Ausie just love to be anti-AsianJul 24 14:15
oiaohmno ZiomatrixJul 24 14:16
schestowitzZiomatrix: you mean, where women are like that?Jul 24 14:16
oiaohmNote I am a aussie  ZiomatrixJul 24 14:16
schestowitzI don't get the jokeJul 24 14:16
oiaohmThe law on breast size was to make sorting out child porn simpler for the police.Jul 24 14:16
schestowitzoiaohm: it's good publicity for Sex Party (the block)Jul 24 14:16
Ziomatrixoiaohm: sorry just refferencing some commercials Ausies made concerning Whale free beerJul 24 14:17
schestowitzIt only gives them more exposureJul 24 14:17
schestowitzThe sense of forbidden site draws in readersJul 24 14:17
Ziomatrixschestowitz: btw, whats ACCESS now?Jul 24 14:17
oiaohmThere is a catch Australia use be a large whale hunter than japan by the way ZiomatrixJul 24 14:18
schestowitzoiaohm: it's stupidJul 24 14:18
oiaohmAnd were whale hunting before japan was.Jul 24 14:18
schestowitzIt's also insulting to many womenJul 24 14:18
schestowitzZiomatrix: deadJul 24 14:18
schestowitzAlmostJul 24 14:18
oiaohmSo yes we do take offence at some other country taking resources that are ours.  ZiomatrixJul 24 14:18
schestowitzDid you watch the film, "night of the living dead"?Jul 24 14:18
schestowitzhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063350/Jul 24 14:19
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schestowitzWhy is it OK to kill small mammals like cows and not whales? Cause we breed them?Jul 24 14:19
schestowitzOr scarcityJul 24 14:19
schestowitzIt's interesting how humans classify flowers/animals worthy of eating/killingJul 24 14:20
schestowitzArbitrary at bestJul 24 14:20
oiaohmReally if Australia though the whale population was fine for hunting we would most likely be killing some.Jul 24 14:20
oiaohmthough/believedJul 24 14:20
Ziomatrixschestowitz: lol well I can't agree with your assessment on ACCESS but the fact is its alive enough to sell its licensing rights to certain companies so they can provide Graffiti. This will definitely help give Android a leg up in Asian markets more then anywhere else.Jul 24 14:21
schestowitzThere are far too few fish leftJul 24 14:21
oiaohmProblem is we have records of whale pod sizes going back to australia first usage.Jul 24 14:21
schestowitzAnd too many humans relative to the size of the planet and their consumptionJul 24 14:21
schestowitzI'm most afraid of fights over water and foodJul 24 14:21
oiaohmAnd current day whale numbers are no where near the size they were.Jul 24 14:21
schestowitzIt'll lead to the next intl' warJul 24 14:22
schestowitzProbably nuclearJul 24 14:22
schestowitzANd it's the worst way of reducing population size... nuclear winters and famineJul 24 14:22
oiaohmAlso australia fish numbers are fairly well managed.Jul 24 14:22
schestowitzOur politicians are too religious to prevent itJul 24 14:22
oiaohmSo we are in no risk of running out any time soon.Jul 24 14:22
oiaohmBut there are fish that we are forbin from taking because there numbers are too low as well.Jul 24 14:23
schestowitzThey can't understand that resources are finite and peak oil means we can no longer 'convert' finite fossil fuel (millions of Sun years) into foodJul 24 14:23
oiaohmIe Australian waters highly  regulated.Jul 24 14:23
schestowitzFuel for pesticides, fertilisers manufacturing, tractors, water conduits...Jul 24 14:23
schestowitzUnless some people learn about scalability there'll be another war in our lifetimeJul 24 14:24
schestowitzoiaohm: what about other countries?Jul 24 14:24
schestowitzAustralia is not densely populatedJul 24 14:24
schestowitzSee countries like India where they ALREADY have these problemsJul 24 14:25
schestowitzThey blame the climate tooJul 24 14:25
schestowitzIndia won't start major war over this. Russia's population already declines.Jul 24 14:25
schestowitzChina's tooJul 24 14:25
oiaohmwe have major problems due to lack of denselyJul 24 14:26
schestowitzBut they might not have much food left unless they colonise moreJul 24 14:26
oiaohmAlso we have water limits.Jul 24 14:26
schestowitzAnd they have underground cities and money to demand from the USJul 24 14:26
Ziomatrixschestowitz: with China its kind of designed by certain PRC laws to limit population growth, among the poor.Jul 24 14:26
schestowitzSo Aussies could be singing Waltzing Matilda as they are forced to become part of /other nations'/ disputesJul 24 14:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @record_industry: Ah, Corfu. Good times. #ORGconJul 24 14:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @elmyra: John Grogan calls the way #DEA was passed a constitutional outrage. #ORGconJul 24 14:27
schestowitzZiomatrix: super-rich US folk admire the Chinese modelJul 24 14:27
schestowitzFor birth ratesJul 24 14:27
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I understand that Australia has a very sensative ecosystem such as how that South American Toad is wreaking havoc on but it doesn't seem like you have any sympathy for others: http://tinyurl.com/ykfwwquJul 24 14:27
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schestowitzThey only speak about it... China is ahead of themJul 24 14:27
schestowitzKorea..Jul 24 14:27
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what does Korea have to do with it?Jul 24 14:29
schestowitzScience advancingJul 24 14:29
schestowitzTaiwan tooJul 24 14:29
schestowitzAre any phones made in the West now?Jul 24 14:29
schestowitzWhere does Nokia manufacture the phones?Jul 24 14:29
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Nokia had a plant in Germany, which they closedJul 24 14:30
schestowitzhttp://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2010/07/22/242072/Nokia-profits-plunge-as-smartphone-sales-rise-1.htmJul 24 14:31
schestowitzZiomatrix: I knowJul 24 14:31
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: even back in days when electronics were made in the USA, they still assembled it from parts a majority of which came from Japan and TaiwanJul 24 14:31
Ziomatrixschestowitz: What reliable standard cellphone market will be left for Nokia, Africa?Jul 24 14:32
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Nokia is certainly making efforts to move into the smartphone market more with Meego and Symbian^4, but for investors its coming too late.Jul 24 14:32
schestowitzhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/07/23/india-to-make-s23-computer-115875-22434850/Jul 24 14:33
TechrightsBotTitle: India to make £23 computer  - mirror.co.uk .::. Size~: 85.21 KBJul 24 14:33
schestowitzIndia too..Jul 24 14:33
oiaohmO boy japan has made a home for our redbacks.Jul 24 14:34
oiaohmWe have songs about red backs on the tollet seat to remind us to check.Jul 24 14:34
schestowitzLet's face it, sooner or later all the Chinese companies just set base thereJul 24 14:34
schestowitzANd use their nearby factoriesJul 24 14:34
schestowitzThe West had a good run while it lastedJul 24 14:34
schestowitzTime for LG/HTC/Samsung and other losers who pay Microsoft for Linux to grab all the marginsJul 24 14:35
Ziomatrixoiaohm: maybe they won't pose as great a danger since a majority of them use squat toilets :PJul 24 14:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] rt @jeffseedrs: Rapturous welcome for @Tom_Watson. #orgconJul 24 14:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @williamheath @tom_watson denounces his good friend @ricallan for selling us down river, calls on him as peer to abolish himself #orgconJul 24 14:37
Ziomatrixschestowitz: you think that tablet stays around $35 by paying outstanding "licensing fees??"Jul 24 14:37
oiaohmhttp://www.kidcyber.com.au/topics/redback.htm  Note spraying to kill redbacks in not recommended.Jul 24 14:38
oiaohmSince you just kill the redback preditors.Jul 24 14:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @tonycurzonprice: #orgcon DRM lobbyists are back in parliament. they want even more. tom watsonJul 24 14:39
oiaohmIe you want daddy long leg spiders.  Harmless to humans and kill redbacks.Jul 24 14:39
oiaohmYes Ziomatrix it should stay around 35 dollars.  Jul 24 14:39
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I didn't even know Daddy-long-legs were capable to kill such predatorsJul 24 14:39
schestowitzhttp://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2266552/ibm-starts-aix-beta-programJul 24 14:39
oiaohmLicence fees for a arm chipset is less than 2 dollars a unit.  ZiomatrixJul 24 14:40
schestowitz2gb of ramJul 24 14:40
schestowitzBut, hey... 5 billion people can blow $500 on an hypePadJul 24 14:40
schestowitzSo this thing won't ever catch on ;-)Jul 24 14:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @CopyrightGirl Lobbyists already buttering up MPs to replace the #DEAct with something worse. Damnit. #ORGConJul 24 14:42
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well maybe in places where every penny saved is billions earned it mayJul 24 14:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @leasimpson: Listening to @tom_watson certain lobbying is a far greater threat to our future culture than copyright infringement #orgconJul 24 14:43
oiaohmhttp://killerkoalasattack.com/  On the line of horror movies before.   schestowitz this one is warped.Jul 24 14:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @hadleybeeman: To do: Recruit 5 friends to our movement, adopt your local MP -@Tom_Watson #deactJul 24 14:44
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I don't think the Indian government and municipality would take kindly to cost overages for providing all children with the tools for high-tech education. When much of it can be spent lining their pockets instead. ;)Jul 24 14:46
oiaohmAt between 10 to 35 dollars providing kids with electronic device is cheeper than printing books.  ZiomatrixJul 24 14:47
oiaohmAlso good for the childrens long term back health.Jul 24 14:48
oiaohmIe lugging around texted books don't do you the world of good.Jul 24 14:48
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I agree, it makes so much sense such a sane policy won't probably ever be implemented in my part of the world considering all the money that is vested in printing overpriced textbooks.Jul 24 14:50
oiaohmAlso think how much a calculator costs.Jul 24 14:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @doctorow RT @hadleybeeman: To do: Recruit 5 friends to our movement, adopt your local MP -@Tom_Watson #deactJul 24 14:51
oiaohmAt 10 to 35 dollars it exactly in calculator range.  ZiomatrixJul 24 14:51
oiaohmSo don't rule it out for your section of the world.Jul 24 14:51
Ziomatrixoiaohm: yup many suppliers in the US along with school superintendents who stand to benefit from the amount of work it takes coordinating such shipments of textbooks and calculators would be up in arms.Jul 24 14:52
Ziomatrixoiaohm: you think the Australia public school system would adopt such a sane way to save money and get the technology needed by students today into their hands?Jul 24 14:53
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I am actually curious, what do you think of public schools in the country you currently reside in?Jul 24 14:56
oiaohmOur public schools are mostly MS ruined.Jul 24 14:59
oiaohmSome are starting to run openoffice and the like.Jul 24 14:59
Ziomatrixoiaohm: don't get me wrong, depending on the district public schools stateside have many benefits. Making sure they recieve technologically meaningful supplies that can "minimize their budget" is not one of them.Jul 24 14:59
oiaohmThere is a reason 50 dollars a seatJul 24 14:59
oiaohmThat is office suite and operating system.Jul 24 14:59
Ziomatrixoiaohm: yea Enterprise copies of M$ products dominate here, they talk to you as though Excel is the only thing that can do a spreadsheet on a computer.Jul 24 14:59
oiaohmSome of our private schools have gone openofficeJul 24 15:00
oiaohmAs well as some of our public ones.Jul 24 15:00
oiaohmCatch is software usage is school by school battle.Jul 24 15:02
Ziomatrixoiaohm: the main problem is many feel since a majority of people use M$ products it must be that you can only use M$ products to know how to use them, even though much of it is built on standards others such as Open Office even use.Jul 24 15:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @popey: Recording audio from sessions at #orgcon for those not here. Quality not perfect but will edit and put online later on.Jul 24 15:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @rob_jewitt: "The odds of copyright incentivising dead authors is pretty low" via @thepublicdomain #ORGConJul 24 15:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @record_industry Will be running my own workshop on 'how to talk to your MP' later in the week. Bring your cheque book. #ORGcon #ACTAJul 24 15:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @Key to understanding MPs is they're busy generalists -@tom_watson. Make yrself helpful & useful to them to be heard #orgconJul 24 15:10
schestowitz"Google's biggest search rival in China - homegrown market leader Baidu, is to develop a Linux-based smartphone to rival the Californian search giant's Android-based devices."Jul 24 15:12
schestowitzhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/7/21/googles-china-rival-create-android-os/Jul 24 15:12
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oiaohmThis is the next OS wars.  schestowitzJul 24 15:14
oiaohmSomething MS is not really ready for. schestowitzJul 24 15:14
Ziomatrixoiaohm: between them and HP things may start to get interesting in the mobile marketJul 24 15:26
Ziomatrixoiaohm: HP has already appointed a new position for Enterprise Sales that has had prior experience in Sprint Nextel and IBM: http://tinyurl.com/354kxlt it seems to me they're shaping up WebOS to be a Blackberry competitorJul 24 15:29
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Ziomatrixoiaohm: I wonder how Badu's OS will turn out like and if it will have enough security holes like swiss cheese for the propper authorities to peer into?Jul 24 15:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Strategy: offer a public wager (£10K+) that #DEAct will not reduce infringement. If BPI won't take it up, make hay out of itJul 24 15:32
oiaohmHP is trying old school. ZiomatrixJul 24 15:33
oiaohmThe OS game is changing.Jul 24 15:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: regarding your article concerning HP re-embracing MS after announcing they would dump it and now you have former Palm turned HP VP Todd Bradely saying they will not bring WP7 to their smartphones or other personal devices. It sounds to me like there is a lowkey power struggleJul 24 15:34
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I think there are too many heads at HP and some are going to role. You know which ones I'm rooting for.Jul 24 15:34
Ziomatrixoiaohm: I meant that heads are going to roll, but its happening over HP's roll as an enterprise solutions company delivering MS productsJul 24 15:37
schestowitzYeah, I get mixed messages from articles I read todayJul 24 15:38
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schestowitzSome say Windows, some Android, some webOSJul 24 15:38
schestowitzLots of contradictions there tooJul 24 15:38
schestowitzOne says Slate 500 will run Vista7Jul 24 15:38
schestowitzAfter HP confirmed it had exed itJul 24 15:39
schestowitz*axedJul 24 15:39
ender2070http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/07/23/pentagon_workers_tied_to_child_porn/Jul 24 15:40
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schestowitzhttp://www.ablegamers.com/4-off-topic-stuff/3242-good-documentaries-about-gaming-or-technology.htmlJul 24 15:40
schestowitz"This fascinating documentary explores the OS movement's origins and depicts the grassroots nature of Linux and OS as they march into the mainstream."Jul 24 15:40
schestowitzSome years ago there was a public official that had a script go through the web and download millions of pron items for him. Some happened to be illegalJul 24 15:41
ZiomatrixThe AmigaOS celebrated its 25th Anniversary yesterday: http://technologizer.com/2010/07/23/amiga/Jul 24 15:43
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oiaohmI expect the contradictions in reports to get worseJul 24 15:44
oiaohmI wonder how long before phones stop shipping with MS OS's installedJul 24 15:45
oiaohmInstead you have to buy it as a add on.Jul 24 15:45
oiaohmReally there is no reason why MS OS cannot be virtual machined beside linuxJul 24 15:46
schestowitzDa Costa the Microsoft AstroTurfer still operates in CNET: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20010118-56.htmlJul 24 15:48
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ender2070oiaohm - we don't need microsoft and its shitJul 24 15:48
Ziomatrixoiaohm: or visa versa?Jul 24 15:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] At the ETOY.tanks in ZRH. Discussing global ID management as distributed, federated setup.Jul 24 15:55
schestowitzhttp://lwn.net/Articles/395810/Jul 24 15:55
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schestowitzoiaohm: there is. Licensing.Jul 24 15:55
schestowitzThey had to change that. Anti-trust maybe.Jul 24 15:55
schestowitzhttp://hothardware.com/News/GamePark%2DGP2X%2DCaanoo%2DOpen%2DSource%2DHandheld%2DDebuts/Jul 24 15:59
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schestowitzLots of Linux news this weekJul 24 16:10
schestowitzI'm still catching up with some and will post link shortlyJul 24 16:11
schestowitzI think I can pace up techrightsJul 24 16:11
schestowitzTaking # of posts up a notchJul 24 16:11
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schestowitzhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/07/24/0241204/Dell-Drops-Ubuntu-PCs-From-Its-Website?art_pos=2Jul 24 16:16
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schestowitz> "Dell insists that it's continuing to sell Ubuntu systems, but onlyJul 24 16:16
schestowitz> over the phone"Jul 24 16:16
schestowitz> Jul 24 16:16
schestowitz> Don't take their word for it, phone Dell and ask for a `Linux' computer.Jul 24 16:16
schestowitz> Jul 24 16:16
schestowitz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/07/24/0241204/Dell-Drops-Ubuntu-PCs-From-Its-Website?art_pos=2Jul 24 16:16
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schestowitz> I wonder did Dell get a visit from fester ?Jul 24 16:16
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schestowitz> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/07/24/0241204/Dell-Drops-Ubuntu-PCs-From-Its-Website?art_pos=2Jul 24 16:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "We should whack them [Dell over GNU/Linux dealings], we should make sure they understand our value." -Microsoft http://ur1.ca/0tv9fJul 24 16:20
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: the Dell's Linux workstations and laptops weren't even up to the latest specs and neither that well supported to begin with. I expect better support from Lenovo after installing Red Hat: http://tinyurl.com/j4cfhJul 24 16:25
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schestowitzZiomatrix: yeahJul 24 16:26
schestowitzThe Dell news hardly bothers meJul 24 16:26
schestowitzIt's like old news, just not made officialJul 24 16:26
schestowitzI put that old quote there in identica to remind people how these things workJul 24 16:27
schestowitzhttp://econsultancy.com/blog/6267-fine-print-can-make-or-break-your-businessJul 24 16:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ‘Dell.. Estimated the Percentage of Commercial PC Users Who.. Microsoft’s Windows 7 as Still Being in “Single Digits.”’ http://ur1.ca/0tvc1Jul 24 16:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=3083&blogid=14Jul 24 16:31
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schestowitzdell entered the Chinese market with Linux (redflag I think) when Microsoft intervenedJul 24 16:32
schestowitzhttp://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/07/22/nvidia_cuda_parallel_nsight/ "Looking ahead, it doesn’t look like the GNU C/C++ compiler will ever be ported by Nvidia to GPUs, but there's nothing stopping the open source community from doing so. Looking ahead to the future of CUDA,"Jul 24 16:33
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schestowitzFo*k CUDAJul 24 16:33
schestowitzhttp://www.katonda.com/news/23/2010/1513Jul 24 16:35
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schestowitzhttp://money.cnn.com/2007/03/06/technology/dell_linux.reut/index.htmJul 24 16:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Did Microsoft want to 'whack' Dell over its Linux dealings? http://ur1.ca/0tve7Jul 24 16:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft 'killed Dell Linux' - States http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/03/19/microsoft_killed_dell_linux_states/ [2002]Jul 24 16:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dell's secret Linux fling http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/09/dell_linux_china/ [2007]Jul 24 16:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Steve Jobs meets Don Knuth. http://is.gd/dECBrJul 24 17:13
ZiomatrixROFL at latest linkJul 24 17:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @Jawoods Loved Bowden at #orgcon on 'privacy is dead' - 'that position is so silly I'm not going to bother to refute it"Jul 24 17:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @shludington Jenkins previewing pages from jenkins/Boyle/Aoki 's new comic book about the history of music & copyright #orgconJul 24 17:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] rt @elmyra: Jennifer Jenkins: What used to be considered creativity is now thought of as theft. #ORGconJul 24 17:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Watching Jennifer Jenkins be scintillating about the way that contemporary law makes customary musical practices into theft #orgconJul 24 17:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @elmyra: We're the first generation in history to deny our own culture to ourselves. Jennifer Jenkins #ORGconJul 24 17:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @rob_jewitt Jenkins: Judge in Bridgeport case: any sample > 2 notes requires a license ☠ creativity http://bit.ly/bBwk68 #ORGConJul 24 17:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @record_industry: I imagine #ORGcon is a lot like Tortuga. Pirates running around drinking+looting, + occasional reference to K. RichardsJul 24 17:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @newsbrooke #orgcon panel agree the Info Commissioner's Ofc is under-resourced and not technically competent. Call for private litigationJul 24 17:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Jennifer Jenkins namechecks DJ Earworm and Girl Talk #mashups #orgconJul 24 17:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Til XCen musicians just needed to play, until XIXCen u needed 2b literate, in XX you needed to be a geek; in XXI u need 2b a lawyer #orgconJul 24 17:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Suggest me some good podcasts. Currently i listen to flossweekly and stackoverflowJul 24 17:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links: #GNU #Linux in China, India, Many Other Places http://ur1.ca/0tvtq Some catch-up with news from the past week or twoJul 24 17:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 24/7/2010: More #FreeSoftware News, Misc. Topics http://techrights.org/2010/07/24/misc-topics/Jul 24 18:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Installing Ubuntu Studio 10.04 on my Laptop. I have high expectations due to the RT Time Kernel for music production !ubuntu !gnu !linuxJul 24 18:12
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/mCPNz/Jul 24 18:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ubuntu Studio 10.04 shipped with multiple distro's on a CD from the German Linux User Magazine. Cool Stuff ;-) http://www.linux-user.de/Jul 24 18:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Installing Ubuntu Studio 10.04 on my Laptop. I have high expectations due to the RT Time Kernel for music production #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJul 24 18:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Oops typo: CD == one Single Sided DVD (Fedora 13) and a double Sided DVD with multiple distro'sJul 24 18:16
ender2070[11:27] <schestowitz> Fo*k CUDAJul 24 18:22
ender2070write something better thenJul 24 18:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard Steve Jobs meets Don Knuth. http://is.gd/dECBrJul 24 18:25
schestowitzCUBA?Jul 24 18:25
ender2070ughJul 24 18:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Gets Headtracking in Desktop (Video) http://ur1.ca/0tw3n One of the areas where GNU/Linux proudly stepped aheadJul 24 18:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] WTF? It's currently installing the #mono trojan. Guess what I will be purging @ first boot... http://ur1.ca/y32g #failJul 24 18:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] Zit helemaal geobsedeerd naar de voortgang van Ubuntu Studio 10.04 op mijn klapjap te kijken!Jul 24 19:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @udovetter: RT @DWDL: Am Donnerstag kommentierte auf Website DerWesten.de zur Loveparade das hier: http://twitpic.com/289wsj #loveparadeJul 24 19:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: The Spreading of Software Patents and #Microsoft ‘Patent Tax’ on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/0twag #swpatsJul 24 19:14
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Instant Corporate Karma - http://bit.ly/bz6NZ3 or, Tangent discovers the Streisand effect #offTangent (via @jackofkent - of course)Jul 24 19:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New examples where Microsoft software helps the causing of many deaths and a word of warning about proprietary software http://ur1.ca/0twedJul 24 19:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Announcing the world’s fastest VP8 decoder: ffvp8 - http://bit.ly/d3rIOY going from strength to strength #vp8 #videoJul 24 19:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] great to see people routinely beginning to fight back against absurd libel threats, instead of just rolling over #OffTangentJul 24 19:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] We really need a freezer that a) closes more reliably and b) beeps if it isn't closed #IDefrostedItByAccidentAgainJul 24 19:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] New RW article: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lubo%C5%A1_Motl Going wellJul 24 19:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Réinvente ton jeu http://ff.im/odKsrJul 24 19:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft, Intel, and #Dell too are exceptionally corrupt and it pays off for them http://ur1.ca/0twlh #gnu #linuxJul 24 20:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Trafigura-esque Tangents, or A very progressive digital agency - http://bit.ly/9bNhfp "try “reputational disaster”." (via @jackofkent)Jul 24 20:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Definitely the Most Freedom-Hostile Phone Maker, #MeeGo (Permissive) Makes Gains http://ur1.ca/0twqa #android #linux #hypephoneJul 24 20:35
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schestowitzNice: http://www.unixweblog.com/2010/05/webcam-opencv-head-tracking-kde4/Jul 24 20:35
schestowitzI posted this in techrights last year (As Ogg)Jul 24 20:35
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schestowitz> When I saw it on your site, I discovered a typo. Grammatically the firstJul 24 20:36
schestowitz> sentence you quoted from me (on New Zealand) lacked a subject.Jul 24 20:36
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schestowitz>  Jul 24 20:36
schestowitz> Jul 24 20:36
schestowitz> It now reads on my site like this: "The New Zealand HeraldJul 24 20:36
schestowitz> <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10658970> interpretedJul 24 20:36
schestowitz> Minister Power as saying [...]" instead of "According to ..., ...", andJul 24 20:36
schestowitz> you might fix it accordingly on yours :-)Jul 24 20:36
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schestowitz> Jul 24 20:36
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schestowitz> FlorianJul 24 20:36
cubezzz3Dell is under the gun thoughJul 24 20:39
cubezzz3as you know better than anyoneJul 24 20:39
cubezzz3but anyways, if Dell is treating Linux like the red-haired stepchild, then I'll just avoid DellJul 24 20:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody great to see people routinely beginning to fight back against absurd libel threats, instead of just rolling over #OffTangentJul 24 20:41
cubezzz3isn't ASUS still using Linux?Jul 24 20:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard so how did you fix RW?Jul 24 20:42
schestowitzcubezzz3: to some extent, but Dell tooJul 24 20:43
schestowitzDell uses it on devicesJul 24 20:43
schestowitzI wouldn't knock Dell just yet. Nor ASUS...Jul 24 20:44
schestowitzDell might sell more Android soonJul 24 20:44
schestowitzOh, and Chrome OS. They spoke to Google about bundling it recentlyJul 24 20:44
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxpr.com/releases/12207.htmlJul 24 20:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] The Kingston SSD drive I put in my laptop makes things screamingly fast - I can reboot so quick it feels basically instantJul 24 20:45
schestowitzhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Windows-XP-Requires-LongTerm-Microsoft-Support-10-Reasons-Why-473776/Jul 24 20:45
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cubezzz3didn't have any reason to knock ASUSJul 24 20:45
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/07/24/misc-topics/#Clip loud video :-)Jul 24 20:46
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cubezzz3but Dell isn't very goodJul 24 20:46
schestowitzKDE 4/5Jul 24 20:46
schestowitz4.5.Jul 24 20:46
schestowitzDell isn't doing very well, eitherJul 24 20:46
schestowitzBig debtJul 24 20:46
cubezzz3hmmmJul 24 20:46
schestowitzNYT too :-)Jul 24 20:48
cubezzz3Red Hat is doing wellJul 24 20:48
schestowitzhttp://www.cio.co.uk/news/3230755/university-of-warwick-seek-linux-supercomputer/Jul 24 20:48
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cubezzz3I always check RHT and MSFTJul 24 20:48
schestowitzIIRC, Red Hat has a financial Achilles heel tooJul 24 20:49
schestowitzAt least that's what Mac Asay told meJul 24 20:49
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/linux-no-bloatware-popups-and-annoyances-10018004/Jul 24 20:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/Growth+Linux+based+Mobile+Device+Shipments+Will+Outstrip+Growth+Entire+Mobile+Device+Market+from+2010+2015+Says+Research/3276129/story.htmlJul 24 20:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Tangent Labs: maliciously litigous, or just stupid? http://is.gd/dENfb #OffTangent Please forward this as widely as possible.Jul 24 20:51
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cubezzz3could this be? zdnet with positive Linux articles? :)Jul 24 20:51
schestowitzHow can one "pirate" one's OWN console? http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/07/14/geohot-gives-in-ps3-remains-unpirated/Jul 24 20:51
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schestowitzcubezzz3: just this one writerJul 24 20:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz how did I fix what about RW?Jul 24 20:52
schestowitzHe has a string of those as of lateJul 24 20:52
schestowitzSomeone in Linux Today said just what you did a few daysa goJul 24 20:52
schestowitz*days agoJul 24 20:52
cubezzz3bloatwareJul 24 20:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard broken lucene indexJul 24 20:53
cubezzz3well, it's still a bit bloated, but it's adjustable, compilableJul 24 20:53
cubezzz3so no problemJul 24 20:53
cubezzz3in fact, I stopped using printersJul 24 20:55
cubezzz3I have an old dot matrix, still worksJul 24 20:55
cubezzz3but I hardly ever use even thatJul 24 20:55
cubezzz3who is apexwm?Jul 24 20:56
cubezzz3secret dude/dudetteJul 24 20:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Other plus of putting in an SSD drive: MUCH longer battery life!Jul 24 20:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CentOS Is Now The Most Popular Linux Distro For Web Servers http://ur1.ca/0twv6Jul 24 20:58
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz i have no idea, i'm not the sysadmin for it!Jul 24 20:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Skype pretends to be going 'open'... well, as long as you don't use BSD or Linux. http://ur1.ca/0twvaJul 24 21:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] CentOS domination shows why it's the stupidest thing to measure market share in terms of revenue. #redhat #idclies #idgJul 24 21:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard I thought you were the site's daddyJul 24 21:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz hell no, just a contributor :-)Jul 24 21:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] Test tweet from Kindle. http://amzn.com/k/6Y2T3C265O59 #KindleJul 24 21:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/43165266#notice-43463465 "bah! centos => $redhat$ deployment... i use gentoo/arch and freebsd  really pure & powerful  xD"Jul 24 21:13
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schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/07/23/small-corner/Jul 24 21:14
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cubezzz3the end of wintel, we hopeJul 24 21:16
cubezzz3I managed to get rid of the win at leastJul 24 21:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] $35 Laptop in India ? Indian minister try to be in news with vaporware http://bit.ly/avoPEpJul 24 21:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Should have known that a RT Kernel in combination with Nvidia Binary Blob is a bad match. Replaced Ubuntu Studio temporarily with Mint 9Jul 24 21:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] "One Wikipedia Per School" http://post.ly/odSWJul 24 21:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What's with Identica's "Will follow back all those who follow me"? This is being abused by spammers in the site (v1agra and stuff)Jul 24 21:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @nsisodiya how can we know it's vapourware?Jul 24 21:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] @schestowitz See , Indian minister has already announced $10 and other models many times. In the news exact IIT was not mentioned.Jul 24 22:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- Fox News Spins Obama 2012 Poll Results? http://youtu.be/e9sGNQ7yKnY?aJul 24 22:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] It is the time when Mobile and SmartPhones can include "Offline Wikipedia" in their devices. #offline #wikipediaJul 24 22:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] How do I map 16 byte to 11 chars alphanum without losing too much permutations? #globalidJul 24 22:16
schestowitzScrewm YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxx4rULX1b8&feature=digestJul 24 22:17
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schestowitzThey shoot first, then ask questionsJul 24 22:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 24/7/2010: Dell Betrays, Linux.conf.au 2011 Wants Papers http://techrights.org/2010/07/24/dell-betrays/Jul 24 22:28
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/43172542#notice-43472577 "There are, sadly, more spammers on !Identica lately. I did wonder if removing the autofollowback feature would help?"Jul 24 22:29
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cubezzz3Dell's support of Linux was always rather softJul 24 22:29
schestowitzThe problem is also removing the existing ones (identica spammers). Would take ages.Jul 24 22:30
schestowitzcubezzz3: micro soft?Jul 24 22:30
cubezzz3indeedJul 24 22:30
schestowitz"naive MS employees - as if they couldn't see Bill Gates stealing their ideas. didn't know Dell et al made money that way" http://identi.ca/conversation/43159007#notice-43473137Jul 24 22:31
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cubezzz3we had X, we had BSD386 (at least since.... July 1992)Jul 24 22:33
cubezzz3the first MMU for PC might be interesting to knowJul 24 22:33
cubezzz3was Intel first, or Motorla?Jul 24 22:34
cubezzz3MotorolaJul 24 22:35
*Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulfJul 24 22:39
cubezzz3maybe tessier would knowJul 24 22:39
cubezzz3Sun 1 was probably first, but I imagine it was very expensiveJul 24 22:40
cubezzz3MMU was part of the motherboardJul 24 22:40
cubezzz31982Jul 24 22:42
cubezzz3in 1982 all I had was Commodore PET :)Jul 24 22:42
cubezzz3that's going way backJul 24 22:42
WireWulfcubezzz3: mm most likly costly for that time periodJul 24 22:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How Politics in India try to kill FOSS http://post.ly/odkgJul 24 22:43
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cubezzz3WireWulf, I'd buy one now :)Jul 24 22:43
WireWulfI'd want a foss RISC rigJul 24 22:43
cubezzz3which one would you get?Jul 24 22:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] [fosscomm] National Mission on ICT http://post.ly/odkwJul 24 22:44
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MinceRaccording to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management_unit the IBM System/370 had it before the Sun 1Jul 24 22:44
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MinceRperhaps even VAXJul 24 22:44
cubezzz3MinceR....Jul 24 22:44
cubezzz3that's hardly a PC :)Jul 24 22:44
WireWulfcubezzz3: thats the questionJul 24 22:44
cubezzz3I want to actually have one in my computer roomJul 24 22:44
WireWulfmy i486 is hardly a pcJul 24 22:45
cubezzz3ah, come on nowJul 24 22:45
WireWulfhowever i can do my taxes on it xDJul 24 22:45
cubezzz3does it have an MMU? If it does, it counts as a PCJul 24 22:45
WireWulfcubezzz3: i dunno it is pre p1 thoJul 24 22:45
WireWulfso probly not Jul 24 22:46
cubezzz3WireWulf, you could even run X on itJul 24 22:46
cubezzz3even SLC couldJul 24 22:46
WireWulfblah i dislike XJul 24 22:46
cubezzz3why not?Jul 24 22:47
WireWulfGUIs are abit over rated Jul 24 22:47
WireWulfi am more for speedJul 24 22:47
cubezzz3sure, me tooJul 24 22:47
cubezzz3still one needs a GUI sometimesJul 24 22:48
WireWulf+ a totally KB controled computer is better for you hand healthJul 24 22:48
cubezzz3WireWulf, one thing I do is switch handsJul 24 22:48
cubezzz3alternate left and rightJul 24 22:48
WireWulfi dont use a mouseJul 24 22:48
WireWulfand a split kb Jul 24 22:49
cubezzz3you can use icewm without a mouseJul 24 22:49
WireWulfi could use evilwm or sithwm alsoJul 24 22:49
cubezzz3so what are you doing then, just running Linux without X?Jul 24 22:49
WireWulfyupJul 24 22:50
WireWulftho atm i am playing with out of boredom CYGWIN in nt 6.1Jul 24 22:50
cubezzz3how about using a trackball instead of a mouse?Jul 24 22:51
cubezzz3would that be acceptable to you?Jul 24 22:51
WireWulflazinessJul 24 22:52
WireWulfcubezzz3: the thing is linux is about freedom run it how you want to Jul 24 22:52
MinceRPCs existed without an MMU, though :>Jul 24 22:52
MinceR(afaik they didn't have one before the 286 or the 386)Jul 24 22:53
cubezzz3yes, there was Xenix for 8086 and VenixJul 24 22:53
WireWulfsome earily 385's did have itJul 24 22:53
cubezzz3Unix without MMUJul 24 22:54
cubezzz3which is hardly idealJul 24 22:54
WireWulf*didntJul 24 22:54
cubezzz3Venix was about $400 :)Jul 24 22:54
WireWulfunix can work on damne near anythingJul 24 22:54
cubezzz3ok, I bet Sun 1's are rare Jul 24 22:55
WireWulftoday or in the 80's?Jul 24 22:56
cubezzz3todayJul 24 22:56
WireWulfyeah Jul 24 22:57
cubezzz3I've wanted a Sun box for a whileJul 24 22:57
cubezzz3just can't find any good dealsJul 24 22:57
WireWulfhowever be the laws of tech a MMU naybe outdated by 1 month from nowJul 24 22:57
cubezzz3in the 80's .... mostly I used Unix System VJul 24 22:59
cubezzz3didn't even like it that much back thenJul 24 22:59
cubezzz3didn't have the good stuffJul 24 23:00
cubezzz3no X, just cursesJul 24 23:00
WireWulfin the 80's i wasnt even live then :PJul 24 23:00
cubezzz3you would have been right at home WireWulf :)Jul 24 23:00
WireWulfcubezzz3: most likly Jul 24 23:01
cubezzz3except we started testing Windows 2.0 Jul 24 23:01
cubezzz3turtle slow, no one liked itJul 24 23:01
WireWulfwin 3.1 maybe win 3.11 was the only ones i likedJul 24 23:02
cubezzz3by the late 80's Waterloo had Sun4'sJul 24 23:03
cubezzz3I thought it was great, way better than all the consumer stuffJul 24 23:03
cubezzz3still did some things that Linux doesn't have, even to this dayJul 24 23:04
WireWulfmmJul 24 23:05
WireWulflinuxx can have anything tho Jul 24 23:05
WireWulfall there has to be is a coder understand itJul 24 23:05
WireWulfand want itJul 24 23:05
cubezzz3yesJul 24 23:05
cubezzz3but back in the 80's Sun4 was pretty nice :)Jul 24 23:06
WireWulfi betJul 24 23:06
cubezzz3WireWulf, some Sun4's could handle up to 128 megs of ramJul 24 23:08
cubezzz3even more in some modelsJul 24 23:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Royalty Versus #Microsoft Royalties http://ur1.ca/0txj6 #swpats #ballnux #novell #opensuse #suseJul 24 23:09
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cubezzz3check out the bus:Jul 24 23:10
cubezzz3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMEbusJul 24 23:10
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WireWulfcubezzz3: i disabled my webbrowser amin agoJul 24 23:10
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cubezzz3oh right :)Jul 24 23:11
cubezzz3I forgot, no XJul 24 23:11
WireWulfyeah Jul 24 23:11
WireWulfno ncurses yetJul 24 23:11
cubezzz3at least get links on thereJul 24 23:11
WireWulfcubezzz3: ncurses compiling my take a bit Jul 24 23:12
WireWulfcubezzz3: links is okay tho i am thinking i may go old school and use lynxJul 24 23:14
cubezzz3WireWulf, I have links with ssl and I can use google gmailJul 24 23:16
cubezzz3looks like crap, but it worksJul 24 23:16
WireWulfmuh i have a dislike of gmailJul 24 23:17
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