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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] FAZ zu #Afghanistan Kriegsprotokollen: "Wikileaks als überstaatliches Ministerium der Wahrheit" - http://bit.ly/AWD-faz | Jul 27 00:06 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Die Afghanistan-Dokumente bei Wikileaks: Das Rohmaterial des Krieges vor der Destillation - Fernsehen - Feuilleton - FAZ.NET .::. Size~: 112.5 KB | Jul 27 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/NqgyY/ | Jul 27 00:08 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Autistic Girl Expresses Profound Intelligence .::. Size~: 5.06 KB | Jul 27 00:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 26/7/2010: #Sabayon 5.3 Review, #OpenOffice.org 3.3 is Coming http://techrights.org/2010/07/26/sabayon-5-point-3-review/ | Jul 27 00:14 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Links 26/7/2010: Sabayon 5.3 Review, OpenOffice.org 3.3 is Coming | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.58 KB | Jul 27 00:14 |
| cubezzz3 | been having problems with ogv files :-/ | Jul 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.geeksmack.net/internet/youtube-hacked-by-4chan | Jul 27 00:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube hacked by 4chan | GeekSmack .::. Size~: 35.55 KB | Jul 27 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Dear !Fedora folks looking for tech support - try irc.freenode.net, #fedora channel, or this webchat: http://bit.ly/FedoraIRC " http://identi.ca/quaid | Jul 27 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) .::. Size~: 1.06 KB | Jul 27 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Karsten Wade (quaid) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 52.82 KB | Jul 27 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "seattlepi.com is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Some features of the site may be unavailable or not function as usual until full service is restored. " | Jul 27 00:23 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz3: which one/s? | Jul 27 00:23 |
| cubezzz3 | most | Jul 27 00:24 |
| cubezzz3 | NqgyY.ogv for example | Jul 27 00:24 |
| cubezzz3 | it's audio only | Jul 27 00:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/07/04/the-poison-of-arrogance/#more-2910 | Jul 27 00:26 |
| cubezzz3 | "Ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type" | Jul 27 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The poison of arrogance | Monday Note .::. Size~: 83.35 KB | Jul 27 00:26 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz3: Where is it? | Jul 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I can't find it in techirghts | Jul 27 00:27 |
| cubezzz3 | oh you posted the link earlier | Jul 27 00:28 |
| cubezzz3 | http://tinyogg.com/watch/NqgyY/ | Jul 27 00:28 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jul 27 00:28 |
| cubezzz3 | about the autistic girl | Jul 27 00:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] BBC: Afghan War Diaries a treasure trove for historians, showing elusive quality of raw intelligence http://bit.ly/AWD-bbc | Jul 27 00:31 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BBC News - US says Wikileaks could 'threaten national security' .::. Size~: 65.04 KB | Jul 27 00:31 |
| cubezzz3 | guess it's time to update mplayer again | Jul 27 00:33 |
| schestowitz | "If you are one of the 78% percent of enterprises that support OpenSource (see my related blog on a recent Accenture survey), now is the time to stop buying solutions from legacy vendors that resort to lawsuits." http://blogs.nexenta.org/blog/2010/07/06/coraid-zfs-netapp-and-nexenta/ | Jul 27 00:35 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Nexenta Planet » Coraid, ZFS, NetApp and Nexenta .::. Size~: 7.08 KB | Jul 27 00:35 |
| schestowitz | 'threaten national security' = show we committed crimes, which may lead to retalisation | Jul 27 00:35 |
| schestowitz | *retaliation | Jul 27 00:35 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Well Mr. Gibbs seems to be arguing more from a ad hominem angle stating that such information may contain the names of people that can put them and possibly families in danger | Jul 27 00:37 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Jul 27 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Well, he says the contents are not important | Jul 27 00:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Taliban already has been retaliating, why else did they try to take Kandahar. They don't need Wikileaks to know how NATO has gone after their leaders. | Jul 27 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "Nothing to see here, move along" | Jul 27 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Apple uses the same tactics | Jul 27 00:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: but then flops once they happen to leave an iPhone in a bar, its like the start of some bad joke | Jul 27 00:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks BBC: Afghan War Diaries a treasure trove for historians, showing elusive quality of raw intelligence http://bit.ly/AWD-bbc | Jul 27 00:39 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BBC News - US says Wikileaks could 'threaten national security' .::. Size~: 65 KB | Jul 27 00:39 |
| cubezzz3 | I hate flash so much | Jul 27 00:39 |
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| cubezzz3 | ctv is just saturated with flash crap | Jul 27 00:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] HuffPost: "monumental leak of classified Afghan war documents to create deeper doubts about the war" http://huff.to/AWD-hp | Jul 27 00:49 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: WikiLeaks Founder On Afghan War Diary: Evidence Of War Crimes In Leaked Documents .::. Size~: 308.62 KB | Jul 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | "Almost all deaths in the IT industry are self-inflicted. Large-scale companies make mistakes because they don’t continue to innovate. -" http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-07-05-n86.html | Jul 27 00:55 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Eric Schmidt On Newspapers, Mobile, and What Might Eventually Kill Google .::. Size~: 6.68 KB | Jul 27 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "Innovation" buzzword | Jul 27 00:55 |
| schestowitz_log | Yi | Jul 27 00:58 |
| schestowitz_log | test | Jul 27 00:58 |
| schestowitz | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20100701 | Jul 27 00:58 |
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| DaemonFC | OK, I finally wrestled with Catalyst and got it to shit out some Mandriva packages for me :P | Jul 27 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | then I wrestled with Mandriva to get it to notice them | Jul 27 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | now it works | Jul 27 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | 10.7 is quite fast | Jul 27 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | and no black splotchyness anymore :) | Jul 27 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | hooray | Jul 27 01:01 |
| schestowitz | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/introducing-our-google-fiber-for.html | Jul 27 01:05 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Official Google Blog: Introducing our Google Fiber for Communities website .::. Size~: 60.46 KB | Jul 27 01:05 |
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| cubevector | ok the ol' fc1 can't handle ogv very well | Jul 27 01:06 |
| schestowitz | is this file OK? | Jul 27 01:06 |
| cubevector | yes | Jul 27 01:06 |
| schestowitz | maybe it was botched by tinyogg | Jul 27 01:06 |
| cubevector | no, it's my slightly mplayer I think | Jul 27 01:07 |
| cubevector | it's from 2009 | Jul 27 01:07 |
| cubevector | slightly old | Jul 27 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I should fork Mandriva the way I have it set up :P | Jul 27 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | slip it on bittorrent anonymously so the various cartels can't sue me | Jul 27 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | and voila | Jul 27 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | instant working Linux distro :P | Jul 27 01:08 |
| cubevector | I don't seem to have chkconfig on vector | Jul 27 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://a.imageshack.us/img716/8123/snapshot1e.png | Jul 27 01:08 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 01:08 |
| cubevector | yeah that's almost the end of the road for fc1 | Jul 27 01:09 |
| cubevector | just use it as a server from now on | Jul 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: BP is giving Tony Hayward a bazillion dollars to make him go away and stfu | Jul 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Tony Hayward is like the Jack Welch of BP | Jul 27 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | or something | Jul 27 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 01:12 |
| cubevector | well that Carly autistic girl does seem to be really typing on that laptop | Jul 27 01:13 |
| cubevector | not faciliated | Jul 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | the 11 year old that likes to get ******* in the ****** by ****** until she ****** ****** | Jul 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Jul 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | I still say her parents are supporting her little tantrums so they can sue Youtube when she gets found dead by a freeway off ramp | Jul 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 01:14 |
| cubevector | anyone know if slack uses chkconfig? | Jul 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | Oh gosh | Jul 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | PJ is defendign Apple again: http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=5 | Jul 27 01:18 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 30.53 KB | Jul 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Playing apologist for their issues | Jul 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Which Woz admits exist | Jul 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: The video shows when the guy sets his phone on the table, it shows 5 bars; when he picks it up as one would to make a call and his hand is cupping the phone, he loses all the bars. Jobs said at the press conference that other smart phones beside the iPhone 4 have problems like this sometimes, so I looked around to see if it is true. An earlier News Picks shows Samsung phones suffer from the "death grip" also. And now Nokia, | Jul 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | so apparently, it is true. It's not just the iPhone. That would tend to support Jobs' contention that the media is making more of this issue because it's Apple. Considering that a Microsoft executive was gloating the other day about this issue, is it beyond the realm of what is possible to consider that the media is being played by Apple competitors? Or, another thought, what about short sellers? The media coverage does seem a | Jul 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | little odd.]" | Jul 27 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | so DaemonFC I want to pm you something thats funny realy, but, I also want you to only reply to that in pm, ok? | Jul 27 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/lawyer-charged-for-assaulting-opposing-counsel-inside-lackawanna-county-courthouse-1.892077 | Jul 27 01:24 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Lawyer charged for assaulting opposing counsel inside Lackawanna County Courthouse - News - The Times-Tribune .::. Size~: 70.19 KB | Jul 27 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | I know almost nothing about any Apple products of the last 20+ years | Jul 27 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | I used an APPLE II once, it made me appreciate DOS more | Jul 27 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 01:27 |
| schestowitz | PJ also links to Apple.com for their apologetics | Jul 27 01:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Tim Bray said their version 1.0 alwaysn sucks | Jul 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Or first releases | Jul 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | And he was an Apple fanboy | Jul 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Even Woz talked about the antenna issues in hypePhone | Jul 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | PJ theorises that Microsoft could be behind the bad press | Jul 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | But Nokia and others too take advantage of this | Jul 27 01:29 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft has next to nothing in mobile | Jul 27 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I used OpenDarwin for a while as a toy | Jul 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | but that wasn't really an Apple product | Jul 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | and it didn't live for long | Jul 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | and it only really served to highlight how far behind Linux that Darwin was | Jul 27 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | which is probably why they hurried up and killed it | Jul 27 01:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @sameerverma: Augen's $150 #Android tablet hits Kmart circular, coming to stores later this week. http://bit.ly/99EjRC | Jul 27 01:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Augen's $150 Android tablet hits Kmart circular, coming to stores later this week -- Engadget .::. Size~: 218.09 KB | Jul 27 01:33 |
| schestowitz | "In strongly worded rebuffs of Jobs' claims that reception problems are an industrywide issue, HTC Corp., Research in Motion, Nokia Corp., Samsung Electronics Co. and Motorola Inc. said the kind of signal loss plaguing the new iPhone 4 does not afflict their handsets. " | Jul 27 01:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-phone-wars-20100720,0,7490518.story | Jul 27 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Apple iPhone antenna: Rival smart phone makers call out Steve Jobs - latimes.com .::. Size~: 128.05 KB | Jul 27 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, and PJ named Microsoft... | Jul 27 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Apple's product is just not good | Jul 27 01:34 |
| schestowitz | No need to defend them | Jul 27 01:34 |
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| DaemonFC | I have a Samsung phone | Jul 27 01:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @DivaDanese: Coders who want to make a difference in changing America? become a #CodeForAmerica Fellow http://codeforamerica.org/fellows/ | Jul 27 01:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | I've TRIED to hold it in such ways to make it drop the signal | Jul 27 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't happen | Jul 27 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | obviously Apple is lying to make their competitors seem just as bad as the iphone, but I can tel lyou that I've never had a problem out of my Samsung smartphone | Jul 27 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | or the Blackberry that I had before that | Jul 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: So it was Gizmodo that got this started. Is that not the same Gizmodo that Apple called the police on? Here is Gizmodo recently on Windows Phone 7 ("Windows Phone 7 is good. Really good.") It is probably just a coincidence, but then. . .]" | Jul 27 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Bull | Jul 27 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Once again. | Jul 27 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have something that serves a purpose than something like the iphone, which is all flash and no substance | Jul 27 01:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well, Groklaw helps Apple lie | Jul 27 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | the iphone is a downgrade in functionality from even the "free" smartphones AT&T passes out with data plans :P | Jul 27 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Apple is the one and only area where I strongly disagree with Groklaw | Jul 27 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to use my cousin's iphone and it was terrible | Jul 27 01:39 |
| schestowitz | http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/sumner-redstone-the-spoken-word-performance/ | Jul 27 01:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I couldn't get past how the keyboard missed the letter I was trying to type half the time | Jul 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: Wow. This is over the top. You don't ask journalists for their sources, and you don't offer to pay them for squealing on the source.]" | Jul 27 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | and it didn't get any better even after I tried calibrating it | Jul 27 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | I like to give something the benefit of the doubt before I go forth and tell how bad it is | Jul 27 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | the iphone is a joke | Jul 27 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe their marketing is so good that it suppresses the experiences of the people who have actually used one | Jul 27 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | if they hadn't constantly been told how "good" it was, or how "cool" it was, they would have thrown theirs in the trash and not looked back | Jul 27 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure | Jul 27 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The hardware video acceleration in VLC is working now | Jul 27 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | with FGLRX :) | Jul 27 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | very smooth playback | Jul 27 01:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/21/ceglia_facebook/ | Jul 27 01:44 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Zuckerberg admits working for man claiming Facebook ownership • The Register .::. Size~: 28.63 KB | Jul 27 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I tried out Fedora 13 with Catalyst 10.7 | Jul 27 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel module loads, but X will freak out and refuse to load its part of the driver | Jul 27 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | then bomb out and try to respawn 100 times a second | Jul 27 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | apparently the bulletproof X nonsense isn't just for Ubuntu anymore | Jul 27 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Assume user is an idiot | Jul 27 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Assume that if X is stopped for any reason, something has gone horribly wrong | Jul 27 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | restart it even if it's broken | Jul 27 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | if it won't start, keep trying | Jul 27 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | even if this prevents the user from reaching a usable console at all | Jul 27 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | so "bulletproof X" essentially screws up and effectively trashes your system | Jul 27 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | more often than not | Jul 27 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's amusing that Mac or Windows would at least offer to boot up in a safe mode if some catastrophe happened | Jul 27 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | X just keeps killing and respawning itself faster than you can stop it | Jul 27 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | with no good explanation of what happened | Jul 27 01:50 |
| cubevector | well there's text console | Jul 27 01:52 |
| cubevector | and also you can just init 1 | Jul 27 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | you can't type anything if you can't even log in | Jul 27 01:53 |
| cubevector | you can't run a text console? | Jul 27 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | because there is no text console when X bails and you're using "radeon" | Jul 27 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | on an r800 chipset | Jul 27 01:54 |
| cubevector | hmmm | Jul 27 01:54 |
| cubevector | that's not good | Jul 27 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | if you can't get X to come up long enough to slap in FGLRX, you're screwed | Jul 27 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has kind of the opposite problem | Jul 27 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | "radeon" works just well enough to give you KMS and 2d-only with no acceleration | Jul 27 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | then it won't accept FGLRX | Jul 27 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | if you're using something newer than RadeonHD 4000 series, you're really hosed unless you can manage to sacrifice a live chicken over your keyboard to FGLRX | Jul 27 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | and make it happy enough to work | Jul 27 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and if you have a 5000 series, you may wear out your ctrl, alt, and backspace keys in the process of throwing a fit and trying to restart X until it decides to load | Jul 27 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | hell if I know what its problem is | Jul 27 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | or why it works sometimes | Jul 27 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's new-ish hardware on Linux and X.org, I should be glad I can slap it around and make it finally work at all | Jul 27 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | users of brand new Nvidia GPUs will probably have a similarly shitty experience | Jul 27 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | now that the NV driver is gone | Jul 27 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia at least had it working well enough to start your system and get their driver with | Jul 27 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm betting the only reason the catastrophe of open source video drivers for Nvidia hasn't happened yet is because Nvidia hasn't released anything sufficiently new in a long time | Jul 27 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | so Nouveau is handling everything OK | Jul 27 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | you watch, when and if they ever get their next generation GPUs out, people will have to stick in an old GPU just to get Linux up and running to install nvidia in the beginning | Jul 27 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | after having Nouveau crash and freeze their system up when X tries to start | Jul 27 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe the kernel will just panic before doing anything | Jul 27 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I've ran into that one before with old ATI 200m chipsets | Jul 27 02:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Still about? | Jul 27 02:03 |
| sebsebseb | no I guess not | Jul 27 02:04 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/omg-merchandise-store-now-open-for.html | Jul 27 02:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Nouveau basically gave Nvidia a free pass to abandon their skeletal (but good enough to boot the system with" NV driver | Jul 27 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | there's gonna be hell to pay for that one if they ever get around to releasing a new GPU | Jul 27 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps if they can stop smoking crack and telling everyone how good their old hardware is that doesn't even support DirectX 10 or OpenGL 3 fully | Jul 27 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's cards are like the Windows XP of GPUs | Jul 27 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | they hold an entire industry hostage for years | Jul 27 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | with a bad platform | Jul 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm | Jul 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | well | Jul 27 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | Plymouth works fine for me in Mandriva One 2010.1 on the other computer and propritary driver | Jul 27 02:06 |
| sebsebseb | where as Ubuntu 10.04 got right issues! | Jul 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | with that | Jul 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | propritary driver or not, after upgrading from 9.10 | Jul 27 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the proprietary drivers are getting better for ATI cards | Jul 27 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | a lot better | Jul 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | Nivida driver :) | Jul 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | its working fine with Mandriva and propritary Nivida driver | Jul 27 02:07 |
| sebsebseb | where as 10.04 issues | Jul 27 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | well, Nvidia cards have never been that much of a pain in the ass with "nvidia" | Jul 27 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're talking integrated motherboard chipsets | Jul 27 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't always like those | Jul 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | well what matters is that Mandriva is working great on the other computer | Jul 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | ,but 10.04 didn't | Jul 27 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I just mean their platform is old, not that their driver is particularly horrifying | Jul 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | Plymouth made me dump 10.04 on the other computer, well I mean the way Ubuntu did Plymouth | Jul 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | that and how it refused to let anyone log in | Jul 27 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | eventualley | Jul 27 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | ATI's new 2d platform blows Nvidia's away totally | Jul 27 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | there's still a bug here and there but damn it's fast :) | Jul 27 02:09 |
| cubezzz3 | well, there's something to be said for old but working systems | Jul 27 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | heh, mine does work | Jul 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | if I can manage to survive stumbling over the god awful open soruce driver | Jul 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | long enough to get FGLRX in | Jul 27 02:10 |
| cubezzz3 | man, no chkconfig on slack type systems | Jul 27 02:10 |
| cubezzz3 | pain in the butt | Jul 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | in the words of R Lee Ermey | Jul 27 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | "Well, any f-ing day now sweetheart!!" | Jul 27 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 27 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | they have almsot no support for r800 and it's almost a year old | Jul 27 02:11 |
| cubezzz3 | I want less integration | Jul 27 02:11 |
| cubezzz3 | not more | Jul 27 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | I mean damn, at least put in something good enough to boot on until you can install the real driver | Jul 27 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Jul 27 02:12 |
| cubezzz3 | the "real driver"? :) | Jul 27 02:12 |
| cubezzz3 | what is that? | Jul 27 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, "radeon" is not a real driver | Jul 27 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's a psychological torture test | Jul 27 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | masquerading as a kernel module | Jul 27 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: an old and working system, well that was Ubuntu 9.04 for many people | Jul 27 02:12 |
| sebsebseb | then along came all this ah | Jul 27 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | hell, if "radeon" can't even boot half the time, default r800 users to vesa | Jul 27 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | well acstauly the ah started with 9.04, but only one little down stream Ubuntu Gnome feature I didn't like, but yeah more hardware brakes in 9.10 and 10.04 I guess | Jul 27 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's not pretty but X will start | Jul 27 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:13 |
| cubezzz3 | therer's the Vesa driver? | Jul 27 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: What were you saying? Newer is not always better? | Jul 27 02:13 |
| cubezzz3 | sebsebseb, certainly | Jul 27 02:13 |
| cubezzz3 | newer is not _always_ better | Jul 27 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | Why upgrade, unless there is a proper reason to? Thats what you were saying? | Jul 27 02:13 |
| cubezzz3 | exactly :) | Jul 27 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | cubevector: radeon is a functional stub, at its best | Jul 27 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | unless you have an r500 or older | Jul 27 02:14 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm not cubevector at the moment :) | Jul 27 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | then it's a decent driver | Jul 27 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: yeah Mandriva 2010.0 works quite well on here, and 2010.1 offers me little advantage if any really, so keeping 2010.0 on here, and got 2010.1 on the other computer | Jul 27 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva One | Jul 27 02:14 |
| cubezzz3 | but on the other hand, no OS can do everything | Jul 27 02:14 |
| cubezzz3 | older is good for some stuff, new(er) is good for other stuff | Jul 27 02:15 |
| cubezzz3 | the 486 linux box sucks for video for example | Jul 27 02:15 |
| cubezzz3 | it's great for irc, and old games | Jul 27 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | yes, there was an unofficial 64-bit Mandriva One floating around somewhere | Jul 27 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | a while back | Jul 27 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if that's still out there | Jul 27 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | it would solve a few of my issues | Jul 27 02:16 |
| cubezzz3 | DaemonFC, probably radeon works better on older systems | Jul 27 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | yes, that's what I mean | Jul 27 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | [it's a functional stub on r700 | Jul 27 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | mostly functional on r600 | Jul 27 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | total replacement for FGLRX on r500 and older | Jul 27 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | right lets tell cubezzz3 this story as well, in pm | Jul 27 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | but on r800, it barely works at all | Jul 27 02:16 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: Why the two names by the way? | Jul 27 02:17 |
| cubezzz3 | oh because I have multiple computers and only one LCD at the moment | Jul 27 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jul 27 02:17 |
| Ziomatrix | remember to always check the bus speed on your motherboard before deciding what graphics card is best for your system | Jul 27 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | the 5670 is a good card | Jul 27 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | full OpenGL 4 and DirectX 11 support | Jul 27 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | about a third faster than the 4670 | Jul 27 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | managed to use a couple less watts | Jul 27 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | still under $100 | Jul 27 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | oh, and I don't recommend KDE 4.5 RC2 if anyone was thinking of toying with it | Jul 27 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's good in many ways, but Dolphin is crashing left and right :) | Jul 27 02:21 |
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| DaemonFC | http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Building_EDuke32_on_Linux | Jul 27 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 02:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Building EDuke32 on Linux - EDukeWiki .::. Size~: 23.87 KB | Jul 27 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Come get some! | Jul 27 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | I like how KDE has a real netbook interface | Jul 27 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not just something hacked together by some downstream OEM playing around with GNOME | Jul 27 02:27 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah I think you know my thoughts on the subject of KDE :) | Jul 27 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | downstream OEM playing around with Gnome? | Jul 27 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | anyway as someone was basically saying to me last night, Canonical pretends to be upstream at times | Jul 27 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | I mean they do stuff, that upstream should only be doing if anyone, really, sometimes | Jul 27 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: Yeah, the Ubuntu Unity desktop | Jul 27 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | which oddly enough, works better than regular GNOME | Jul 27 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah looks nice from a video I saw and such, I haven't tried yet, since woudn't work in a vm it seems, and not burnt a CD and booted a computer from that | Jul 27 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah 10.10 is going to be a right joke for the Desktop version | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | ,but the fan boys and such will love it anyway | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | netbook version it seems will be much better | Jul 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | the official 64-bit Firefox builds work well | Jul 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | but I noticed they're building them without the extra security settings most distros use | Jul 27 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | like stack protection | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I just got another nightly downloaded a little while ago | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | maybe this one will work | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | so I can vm it and try the new Canonical Clock | Jul 27 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | that's right they have replaced the Gnome clock | Jul 27 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | haha :) | Jul 27 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | ooo, a new clock | Jul 27 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | yeah doesn't do weather either | Jul 27 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jul 27 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF14bWw1NKk&feature=player_embedded | Jul 27 02:32 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Ubuntu 10.10 (UNE): Unity, Software Center, Sound Indicator [WebUpd8] .::. Size~: 96.9 KB | Jul 27 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's a new weather indicator that doesn't work right | Jul 27 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | some fan boys have been working on a weather applet, and in fact they started work, before they would have maybe been asked to make one | Jul 27 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | kweatherservice works fine | Jul 27 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the weather indicator isn't from Canonical | Jul 27 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | I kept trying to get it to stop giving me degrees Celsius and it wouldn't | Jul 27 02:32 |
| cubezzz3 | but I'm using older KDE of course | Jul 27 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: thats omgubuntu people making the Weather applet | Jul 27 02:33 |
| cubezzz3 | heh | Jul 27 02:33 |
| cubezzz3 | wow, I had to force mine to not use imperial :) | Jul 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | I DON'T USE THE *** ****** ****ING METRIC SYSTEM!!!!! BLAAAARGHHHHHHH! | Jul 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 27 02:33 |
| sebsebseb | 10.10 is going to be such a joke for the desktop version | Jul 27 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | come on other distros | Jul 27 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | title for the bug report perhaps? | Jul 27 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | release nice stable Gnome 3 | Jul 27 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | around the same time :D | Jul 27 02:34 |
| cubezzz3 | lots of other distros to try | Jul 27 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | make Ubuntu 10.10 look well rather sucky, since its Gnome 2 with Canonicals changes | Jul 27 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | :D | Jul 27 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | KDEs weather applets will give me Fahrenheit, millibars, and miles per hour | Jul 27 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | yay KDE! | Jul 27 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | maybe people from other distros will start hyping up Gnome 3, basically at the same time, that Canonical want loads of people to think Ubuntu 10.10 and not just the netbook, but the desktop as well, is great | Jul 27 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | well thats one way to do competition I suppouse | Jul 27 02:36 |
| cubezzz3 | nah, I don't think I want Gnome 3 | Jul 27 02:36 |
| cubezzz3 | it's just a feeling but... | Jul 27 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | well I tried the Mandriva Gnome 3 preview | Jul 27 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | when I put 2010.1 on the other computer | Jul 27 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah quite nice really, but will need some getting used to, it seems | Jul 27 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yeah you know that right? you got Gnome 3 preview as an option from log in screen if you did Gnome 2010.1 | Jul 27 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | no one like 2.2? | Jul 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | 80 degrees, 1019 millibars and rising, wind southwest at 4 miles per hour | Jul 27 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | j/k | Jul 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | thank you KDE | Jul 27 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | so much better than the Ubuntu way, use an old version from repo, or install a ppa, and then running the thing is only tempory | Jul 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 02:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @storming: 300k GNOME Linux desktops in 2k public schools. 180k laptops for students and teachers in Andalucia. | Jul 27 02:37 | |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: KDE is like Windows really | Jul 27 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: just can do more | Jul 27 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | hrmmm | Jul 27 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | when it comes to the desktop environment I mena | Jul 27 02:37 |
| cubezzz3 | I like it about a million times better though | Jul 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | I already called GNOME the bastard child of Windows 95 and OS X | Jul 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm? | Jul 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome 3 will be something differnet | Jul 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like shit and it has no features | Jul 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | I think thats what we need really | Jul 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | something good, easy to use, and differnet | Jul 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | best of Windows 95 and OS X | Jul 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @alonswartz: GNU high school: teaching kids by contributing to open source http://bit.ly/9cDzpJ | Jul 27 02:38 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: GNU high school: teaching kids by contributing to open source | TurnKey Linux Blog .::. Size~: 34.21 KB | Jul 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | otherwise people will be like, right, ok thats what you call Gnome or KDE, but those features, can be done in Windows as well | Jul 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say LXDE turned out more like Windows anyway | Jul 27 02:38 |
| cubezzz3 | not only are my computers very old, I'm even listening to _old_ classical music :) | Jul 27 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: classical music is ok | Jul 27 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | but given that the guy behind it used to make Windows software, it's probably not a surprise that that's how it came out | Jul 27 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | LXDE is more or less a Windows XP clone that uses half the resources | Jul 27 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | well yes I noticed that as well when I tried Lubuntu, it looks like Windows | Jul 27 02:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @storming: French National Police is the largest GNOME Linux desktop deployment that Canonical has been involved with. | Jul 27 02:39 | |
| DaemonFC | and doesn't crash | Jul 27 02:39 |
| cubezzz3 | this is like 14th century classical music :) | Jul 27 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | yes the French went Ubuntu | Jul 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | instead of Mandriva | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up wrapping Compiz around LXDE | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | on my laptop | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | odd that they didn't go with Mandriva | Jul 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | oh Natonal Police the tweet said | Jul 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | I was thinking goverment | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | don't you have local sourcing laws in Europe? | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, we're becoming more like Europe when we get rid of those | Jul 27 02:40 |
| sebsebseb | local sourcing laws? | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | I keep forgetting that | Jul 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, local sourcing policy states that the government will always procure things locally | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | wherever possible | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | yeah thats something, if a country using something made by its own people | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Jul 27 02:41 |
| cubezzz3 | oh right, I've heard of that | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | thats not how it is, a lot of the time | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | in fact Europe is quite American now really | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | since quite a lot of American companies over here | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | like Obama giving grants to Korean companies | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | to make wind turbines | Jul 27 02:41 |
| sebsebseb | and not just Europe, most of the world | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana told him we'd refuse the grant money unless those turbines were all made in the USA | Jul 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | so now there's a factory in Muncie that hired over 600 people | Jul 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | and they make the turbines :) | Jul 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical they say is located in Isle Of Man and all that, blah de blah | Jul 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | it seems to me that Canonical has gone quite American though | Jul 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's one of the few times I've agreed totally with our governor | Jul 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandriva is French | Jul 27 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | we don't need to be sending our tax money overseas for something we can make here | Jul 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | well, the European Union is all about erasing national borders | Jul 27 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | people don't say that Canonical is British for example, if anything they'll say Mark Shuttleworth is South African | Jul 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | so they're probably pleased as punch to send all their money to Canonical | Jul 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | in their tax haven island | Jul 27 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | loads of stuff been out sourced ( I belive the word is ) to India or China I guess | Jul 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | since cheapter to do stuff over there | Jul 27 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical is registered in Isle of Man to defraud the British government of their tax revenues | Jul 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | yeah exactly | Jul 27 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's like having your ship registered in the Cayman Islands | Jul 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | I guess | Jul 27 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | located there to get round tax | Jul 27 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jul 27 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has some support centers in the US | Jul 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | and I think thats also what quite a lot of these millionsiares and billionaires will do, put loads of their money some where, where there ins't tax | Jul 27 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | so they do end up paying US taxes on any sales they make here | Jul 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | to get round the tax system | Jul 27 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical also has an office in London as far as I know | Jul 27 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | well I think they do | Jul 27 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | generally, if you have a presence in the US, you're obligated to pay federal tax and taxes of that state | Jul 27 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is really a over hyped, joke distro, these days, but most of the users don't know that | Jul 27 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | so by having to locate anything here, it exposes them to our tax law | Jul 27 02:47 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well they have the place that Jono works at | Jul 27 02:48 |
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| DaemonFC | even in bankruptcy, Mandriva has managed to put together a better KDE distro than Fedora | Jul 27 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 03:07 |
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| DaemonFC | cubevector: Firefox 4.0 beta 2 is a 13 MB tarball | Jul 27 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 is a 13.6 MB tarball | Jul 27 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | they really cut Firefox down to the bones | Jul 27 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | 600 kilobytes and all you have to give up is an IRC client, Mail and News, and a WYSIWYG web page editor | Jul 27 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 04:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @storming: 300k GNOME Linux desktops in 2k public schools. 180k laptops for students and teachers in Andalucia | Jul 27 06:49 | |
| schestowitz | "The new agreement goes beyond that, but in ways the companies are not disclosing." | Jul 27 07:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/new-microsoft-arm-licensing-agreement-could-a-windows-phone-tablet-be-coming/6924 | Jul 27 07:04 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: New Microsoft, ARM licensing agreement; Could a Windows Phone tablet be coming? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 132.82 KB | Jul 27 07:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] SolarNetOne: Solar-powered networking for anyone http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-solarnetone/ | Jul 27 07:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'Fortunately, the issue of metadata is primarily a Microsoft® Word problem... can't access it, so you can't remove it.' http://ur1.ca/0ulx3 | Jul 27 07:09 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-20011537-36.html | Jul 27 07:10 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Facebook says Ceglia contract was likely 'forged' | The Social - CNET News .::. Size~: 122.49 KB | Jul 27 07:10 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Check this out http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/07/future-of-ithere-they-are.html | Jul 27 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Blog of Helios: The Future of IT...Here They Are. .::. Size~: 85.53 KB | Jul 27 07:11 |
| sebsebseb | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/07/future-of-ithere-they-are.html | Jul 27 07:11 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The Blog of Helios: The Future of IT...Here They Are. .::. Size~: 85.53 KB | Jul 27 07:11 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw still defends hypePhone (http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=1 at the bottom) | Jul 27 07:12 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I put that link in techrights | Jul 27 07:12 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Jul 27 07:12 |
| sebsebseb | well it's pretty cool isn't it? | Jul 27 07:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202463877464&Hedge_Fund_Owner_in_Rothstein_Case_Agrees_to_Surrender_Bulk_of_Assets | Jul 27 07:13 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yeah | Jul 27 07:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Law.com - Hedge Fund Owner in Rothstein Case Agrees to Surrender Bulk of Assets .::. Size~: 29.47 KB | Jul 27 07:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: They didn't mention the distro, but I am assuming its Mint, since I read before how these Helios people like Mint | Jul 27 07:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @janstedehouder: #opentrends: Periodic table of the open source graphics and design apps http://ping.fm/F9GX5 | Jul 27 07:18 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb:yes | Jul 27 07:27 |
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| tessier | schestowitz: Everything seems to have calmed down. Only thing I could really see was a bunch of bots. | Jul 27 08:13 |
| tessier | Spiders, that is | Jul 27 08:13 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I noticed that when I woke up | Jul 27 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Thanks so much | Jul 27 08:14 |
| cubezzz3 | looking for a screenshot of Sun-1 | Jul 27 08:18 |
| cubezzz3 | so far, no luck | Jul 27 08:18 |
| cubezzz3 | they ported UniPlus V7 port of Seventh Edition UNIX to 68000 | Jul 27 08:18 |
| cubezzz3 | pretty rare too | Jul 27 08:19 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Paid Roxanne Conlin a Lot of Money to End the Comes vs Microsoft Case http://ur1.ca/0umku #antitrust | Jul 27 08:22 | |
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| cubezzz3 | hmm, no response eh? | Jul 27 08:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Most. Impressive. Art. http://www.urbanscreen.com/usc/41 #wow #cool via #etoy | Jul 27 08:29 | |
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| cubezzz3 | Iowa was the last state to settle yet? | Jul 27 08:30 |
| schestowitz | I think | Jul 27 08:37 |
| schestowitz | There's also Mississippi | Jul 27 08:38 |
| schestowitz | tessier: this bots issue is back | Jul 27 08:41 |
| tessier | I see | Jul 27 08:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Windows Viruses Can be Politically Motivated Sometimes http://ur1.ca/0umts #Windows worm has special focus on Iran | Jul 27 08:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] World-class New York Times article on #IBM #antitrust case in the #EU http://nyti.ms/ay4Exy | Jul 27 08:52 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ffii] Citizens have a clear interest in being informed about #ACTA, EU Ombudsman concludes http://bit.ly/aWDpmf | Jul 27 09:06 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: ping | Jul 27 09:24 |
| schestowitz | tessier: it looks like some sort of DDOS | Jul 27 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Now I can't load any -page | Jul 27 09:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Antitrust Attacks on #IBM Carried Out by #Microsoft and its “Satellite Proxies,” According to IBM http://ur1.ca/0una1 #gnu #linux | Jul 27 09:37 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jul 27 09:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft bots are still plaguing the #techrights site today | Jul 27 09:44 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft bots are still plaguing the !techrights site today | Jul 27 09:46 | |
| tessier | I don't see much inthe way of bots at the moment. All looks like legit traffic. | Jul 27 09:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #European Ombudsman Confirms Refusal of Access to Secret #ACTA Documents http://ur1.ca/0ung9 via @ffii | Jul 27 09:53 | |
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| cubezzz3 | attacked by evil Microsoft bots! | Jul 27 09:57 |
| cubezzz3 | it's like 50's SF | Jul 27 09:57 |
| cubezzz3 | only not 50's | Jul 27 09:58 |
| MinceR | could be kiddies wanting you to blame m$ | Jul 27 09:58 |
| cubezzz3 | I'm safe, the kiddies don't know how to attack ancient linux | Jul 27 09:59 |
| cubezzz3 | well I always see search bots | Jul 27 10:02 |
| cubezzz3 | IBM knows how to fight | Jul 27 10:04 |
| cubezzz3 | they've been around a long time | Jul 27 10:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Admits a Software Patent is Just Like Maths http://techrights.org/2010/07/27/admission-re-swpats/ #swpats | Jul 27 10:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] via @pilhuhn stunning colour pictures from the 30s/40s in USA. License unclear to me. http://is.gd/dLR71 | Jul 27 10:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] sorry for slow posting - I've lost my main Internet connection, so things will be intermittent until fixed... | Jul 27 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: yeah, that has passed | Jul 27 10:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A look at the recent talk from Novell's PR/CMO and a reminder of why #SUSE developers ought to leave #Novell http://ur1.ca/0uny7 | Jul 27 10:46 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Source Seems to be the Hardest Word | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.11 KB | Jul 27 10:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Michael Widenius Lobby Against #Oracle a Matter of Self Interest http://techrights.org/2010/07/27/skysql-vs-oracle/ #mysql #opencore #osi | Jul 27 11:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] via @sandersch #BraveNewWorld #MinistryOfTruth at it in Maryland. 16 years for filming police http://www.mclu.org/node/653 | Jul 27 11:54 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Sixteen Years in Prison for Videotaping the Police? | MAINE CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION .::. Size~: 15.98 KB | Jul 27 11:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some of Microsoft’s latest bribes which are not a legal offence and some of the criminal acts of #Microsoft http://tinyurl.com/354kpz7 | Jul 27 11:57 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Microsoft and Bribery, Fraud | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.72 KB | Jul 27 11:57 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Jul 27 12:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @guardiantech Curated computing is no substitute for the personal and handmade | Cory Doctorow http://bit.ly/aAuqN8 | Jul 27 12:21 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Curated computing is no substitute for the personal and handmade | Cory Doctorow | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 84.31 KB | Jul 27 12:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz website is down. Getting 500s all the time. | Jul 27 12:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Quark discoverer: Decoherence, language and complexes - http://bit.ly/9yiRax interesting chap, Gell-Mann #physics #linguistics #nostratic | Jul 27 13:27 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Quark discoverer: Decoherence, language and complexes - opinion - 27 July 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 52.67 KB | Jul 27 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Hmm you still have pests? schestowitz | Jul 27 13:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] If Oracle Bought Every Open Source Company... - http://bit.ly/ccwFm8 what could be done? #oracle #opensource #licensing | Jul 27 13:28 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: If Oracle Bought Every Open Source Company... - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 80.82 KB | Jul 27 13:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @AnneMarieMineur Cory Doctorow komt naar Nederland! http://bit.ly/95B8mO | Jul 27 13:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Apple loses in Digital Millennium Copyright ruling - http://bit.ly/agBg5T another tiny crack in the DMCA fortress #copyright #dmca | Jul 27 13:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] HP guns for printer ink competition - http://bit.ly/bFk9rQ shame on HP for sinking this low #hp #ink #patents | Jul 27 13:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] RT @bitsoffreedom: Ontmoet Cory Doctorow! Save the date voor vrijdag 24 september http://bit.ly/95B8mO Jij kan er bij zijn! | Jul 27 13:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Facing 16 Years In Prison For Videotaping Police - http://bit.ly/cJWV4C gobsmacking abuse of the law (via @sandersch) #bullying | Jul 27 13:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Facing 16 Years In Prison For Videotaping Police .::. Size~: 169.52 KB | Jul 27 13:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Italy: Internet press freedom under threat - http://bit.ly/bGFFIo slapping down those pesky bloggers #italy #blogging | Jul 27 14:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] EFF Wins New Legal Protections for Video Artists, Cell Phone Jailbreakers, and Unlockers - http://bit.ly/dmY9b8 details of some great wins | Jul 27 14:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: EFF Wins New Legal Protections for Video Artists, Cell Phone Jailbreakers, and Unlockers | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 14.87 KB | Jul 27 14:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Indian Ocean Pokes at Record Companies, Gives away Latest Album for Free - http://bit.ly/bht3b7everyone's doing it #india #free | Jul 27 14:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] UK ISP TalkTalk Monitoring its Customers Online Activity Without Consent - http://bit.ly/aqbzjV unacceptable stuff #dpi | Jul 27 14:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] now at 'SFLC delhi India' office. | Jul 27 14:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] BitTorrent Releasers Slice The Top Off Movie Piracy Pyramid - http://bit.ly/bh5xhM amazingly rich ecosystem #bittorrent #piracy | Jul 27 14:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: BitTorrent Releasers Slice The Top Off Movie Piracy Pyramid | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 40.2 KB | Jul 27 14:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] What is Google Punch? A New Google Docs Format - http://bit.ly/anf1w9 let's hope it's compatible with #odf #google | Jul 27 14:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Peter Sunde Banned From Operating The Pirate Bay - http://bit.ly/dCKnf0 net effect: zero #piratebay | Jul 27 14:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Copyright Finally Getting Around To Destroying Player Piano Music... One Century Late - http://bit.ly/dvOnaT @mmasnick adds great context | Jul 27 14:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @sandersch: RT @remin ♺ @lovenemesis: Woo, #Btrfs in #linux 2.6.35 beats #ZFS to be the King of FS? http://ur1.ca/0uqks | Jul 27 14:44 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: [Phoronix] Benchmarking ZFS On FreeBSD vs. EXT4 & Btrfs On Linux .::. Size~: 20.42 KB | Jul 27 14:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Why Fair Use is Not Just Acceptable, It's Essential for the Future - http://bit.ly/bW6TAy good to see popular site writing thus #fairuse | Jul 27 14:47 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Navigating the Wild West of non-peer-reviewed science - http://bit.ly/aXGPGo all part of the rich ecosystem #science #openaccess | Jul 27 14:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Librarian of Congress Still Clueless About Linux - http://bit.ly/cSAKHr good point about the unfairness for free software #dmca | Jul 27 14:56 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Groklaw - Librarian of Congress Still Clueless About Linux; Groks Jailbreaking - Updated .::. Size~: 98.41 KB | Jul 27 14:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Dell UK decides to sell Linux boxes over the phone - http://bit.ly/dySEbb oh, yeah, that makes sense... #dell #linux | Jul 27 14:59 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Dell decides to sell linux boxes over the phone - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 60.49 KB | Jul 27 14:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Afghanistan-Experte Marc Thörner heute mit sehr guter Analyse im Tagesspiegel: "Protokolle eines Krieges" http://bit.ly/AWD-TS | Jul 27 15:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Who controls the off switch? - http://bit.ly/cnfwQB "smart meters that can be turned off remotely" what could possibly go wrong? #fail | Jul 27 15:05 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Reviewer Caught Posting Marketing Material As A Review... Uses DMCA To Takedown Site Of Guy Who Exposed Him - http://bit.ly/9WJVg4 pathetic | Jul 27 15:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Just suffered a 3-hour downtime because of that junk that keeps hitting the site | Jul 27 15:09 | |
| schestowitz | 301 323 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; DotBot/1.1; http://www.dotnetdotcom.org/, crawler@dotnetdotcom.org)" | Jul 27 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | F*er | Jul 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz | I think they just changed user-agent | Jul 27 15:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Is there a UK "deep state"? - http://bit.ly/cpgPSV another pernicious legacy of Blair, the worst Prime Minister in history #uk #blair | Jul 27 15:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] does this http://is.gd/dMi8Z (look at CONTENT) mean that all my private messages might end up on public advertising?!? #twidroyd #fail | Jul 27 15:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Android phone sales triple this year - http://bit.ly/9F88r9 key: "an increasing number of consumers now asking for Android handsets by name" | Jul 27 15:30 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android phone sales triple this year | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 131.85 KB | Jul 27 15:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Police chief: Yes, my plods sometimes forget photo laws - http://bit.ly/cau5jF why still have work to do #police #uk | Jul 27 15:35 | |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Is it an attack done on purpose??? Or just the usual M$ zombified computers ???" @schestowitz Is it an attack done on purpose??? Or just the usual M$ zombified computers ??? | Jul 27 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/43688359#notice-43993386 | Jul 27 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | They actually identfy themselves as Microsoft bots for the most, but I can't know yet if they are not forged (it's behind a proxy) | Jul 27 15:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The site has been under some sort of 'junk attack' since yesterday @ 10am. I don't know the source yet, but we filter. | Jul 27 15:39 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If anything, all this rubbish time I've had with the site since yesterday will motivate me to post more, not less. | Jul 27 15:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody What is Google Punch? A New Google Docs Format - http://bit.ly/anf1w9 let's hope it's compatible with #odf #google | Jul 27 15:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Intellectual Property Rights and Innovation: Evidence from the Human Genome - http://bit.ly/d5nroY interesting; pity it's not accessible | Jul 27 15:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 1/2 Those of you at GUADEC - stop by the 7 o'clock espresso bar - small biz, really nice guy, great wi-fi http://is.gd/dMm5g #gnome | Jul 27 15:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 2/2 it is also a small business, and I love the idea of supporting a local community business with such a great service #gnome | Jul 27 15:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody see? You *do* give away political orientation :-) | Jul 27 15:56 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @schestowitz well, I make an exception for special cases... | Jul 27 16:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] A Guide to the Digital Economy Act - Part 4 - http://bit.ly/9zGYU2 "Web-blocking: one of the most controversial parts" #deact #censorship | Jul 27 16:07 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Jay! http://techrights.org is up again. Was unreachable yesterday and before I got to work this morning (dos attack). #techrights | Jul 27 16:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @glynmoody I know, I know. Poodles don't have the same privileges | Jul 27 16:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] .UK is 25 years old - http://bit.ly/cAizqG "Of course there shouldn’t really be a “.uk” at all" #uk #net | Jul 27 16:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ubuntu Global Jam announced! 27th – 29th August 2010 Find out more: http://is.gd/dMq38 #ubuntu #community #locoteams | Jul 27 16:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Ubuntu Global Jam: Start Your Engines! | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 25.29 KB | Jul 27 16:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 27/7/2010: #Dell Sells #Ubuntu Over Phone; #Linux -based Pandora Runs Mortal Kombat 3 http://ur1.ca/0us0e | Jul 27 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Links 27/7/2010: Dell Sells Ubuntu Over Phone; Linux-based Pandora Runs Mortal Kombat 3 | Techrights .::. Size~: 117.75 KB | Jul 27 16:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just added the very first Ubuntu Global Jam event which I am running in Rockridge, California - http://is.gd/dMqUo #ubuntu | Jul 27 16:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The State of Open Source: Startup, Growth, Maturity or Decline? - http://bit.ly/9jgvUL projects rise and fall, but #OSS thrives | Jul 27 16:46 | |
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| Rollercoaster | http://i.imagehost.org/0274/wat.png - H.264 | Theora, both 650 kbit/s, H.264 settings adjusted to match Theora's encoding time | Jul 27 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jul 27 17:01 |
| Rollercoaster | how so? | Jul 27 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Rollercoaster | Jul 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | What does that show? No caption | Jul 27 17:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody The State of Open Source: Startup, Growth, Maturity or Decline? - http://bit.ly/9jgvUL >> interesting graphs | Jul 27 17:09 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: tecosystems » The State of Open Source: Startup, Growth, Maturity or Decline? .::. Size~: 59.74 KB | Jul 27 17:09 |
| Rollercoaster | schestowitz, I wrote it in my message. | Jul 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | OK, so the pipe is separator | Jul 27 17:10 |
| schestowitz | But it's one frame | Jul 27 17:10 |
| schestowitz | You can't deduce much from that | Jul 27 17:10 |
| Rollercoaster | it's a keyframe | Jul 27 17:11 |
| schestowitz | EVen whole clips like the std Matrix scene can favour one side's particular strengths | Jul 27 17:11 |
| Rollercoaster | dunno I fail to see how ripoff of 2003's VP3 can beat H.264 | Jul 27 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | Zombies or ddos is sort of back | Jul 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Hammering dozens of times on each page. Those bastards! | Jul 27 17:28 |
| Rollercoaster | where can I add my Windows XP laptop to their botnet? link me trojans .exe please | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz | I can hardly even write new posts this way | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Rollercoaster: I'm not sure it's a botnet | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz | But it's DDOS as per its effect | Jul 27 17:29 |
| Rollercoaster | so I can't help them? :( | Jul 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz | It's like a dedicated server it manages to knock over or paralyse | Jul 27 17:29 |
| Rollercoaster | lol'd | Jul 27 17:30 |
| Rollercoaster | whois it's IP | Jul 27 17:30 |
| Rollercoaster | and write abuse letter | Jul 27 17:30 |
| Rollercoaster | not that hard | Jul 27 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Rollercoaster: it's not one machinne | Jul 27 17:31 |
| schestowitz | tessier: ping | Jul 27 17:31 |
| Rollercoaster | so? whois all IPs and add them as bcc to single letter :p | Jul 27 17:31 |
| Rollercoaster | and add abuse email's of their dedi providers * | Jul 27 17:32 |
| jstoddard | Yeah, that's why I'm here -- if techrights isn't going to be reliable, I've gotta get my fix somewhere | Jul 27 17:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @pslbrasil: É usuário GNU/Linux mas o Windows veio instalado no PC? Saiba que é possível pedir reembolso! http://bit.ly/cQun9F | Jul 27 17:32 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: É usuário Linux mas o Windows veio instalado no PC? Saiba que é possível pedir reembolso! - PSL Brasil - Software Livre Brasil .::. Size~: 26.89 KB | Jul 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | jstoddard: you're joking there, right? | Jul 27 17:34 |
| schestowitz | otherwise, it's a troll | Jul 27 17:34 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: dont you write offline at times like this? ready to copy and paste when it's back online | Jul 27 17:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why We Will Post More, Not Less http://ur1.ca/0usre my last public post about attacks on the server, I have already wasted hours on it | Jul 27 17:36 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Why We Will Post More, Not Less | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.42 KB | Jul 27 17:36 |
| Rollercoaster | dunno loads fine here | Jul 27 17:36 |
| Rollercoaster | took less than 1 sec | Jul 27 17:36 |
| jstoddard | somewhat joking; I _am_ here because techrights isn't continuously accessible; came to see what's going on, esp. with regards to the site's problems. | Jul 27 17:37 |
| Rollercoaster | > What is the true damage caused by Windows? Some say trillions of dollars | Jul 27 17:37 |
| Rollercoaster | fix: by curve hands | Jul 27 17:37 |
| Rollercoaster | > We do filter out what we can, but sometimes the load takes Apache out of commission. | Jul 27 17:38 |
| Rollercoaster | lol'd, get nginx | Jul 27 17:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] The value of restricting choice http://goo.gl/fb/tfAX4 | Jul 27 17:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How Solar Energy from Rajasthan Desert can meet India's Power need #Sci4d http://scr.bi/cGyErD http://scr.bi/b4hhwQ #solar #india | Jul 27 17:47 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Solar Energy From the Rajasthan Desert Can Meet India's Future Power Needs Energy Manager 10th Issue April-June 2010[2] .::. Size~: 129.01 KB | Jul 27 17:47 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jul 27 18:05 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I do to an extent, I have the site on one screen for pulling references, the text on the other (Kate) | Jul 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | If the site is down I get stuck writing text without being able to stick the x-reference I need | Jul 27 18:16 |
| ThistleWeb | never thought of that | Jul 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | jstoddard: :-) Well, we haven't had such issues for many months. | Jul 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I think this is actually the longst downtime we've had (today) in over a year | Jul 27 18:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @rcweir what's your take on Google's 'new' document format? @glynmoody just posted something about it, seems worrisome | Jul 27 18:20 | |
| jstoddard | schestowitz: Yeah, I think I found your site about 2 or 3 months ago via Identica, and haven't had any access issues until now. | Jul 27 18:20 |
| zoobab | what is this new format? | Jul 27 18:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/what_is_google_punch_a_new_google_docs_format.php | Jul 27 18:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: What is Google Punch? A New Google Docs Format .::. Size~: 66.97 KB | Jul 27 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Real punch in the crotch | Jul 27 18:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] Wall Street Journal blog posting on #IBM #antitrust case in the #EU http://bit.ly/9J9Lmq Makes some very good points. | Jul 27 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Good for the Gander? - Real Time Brussels - WSJ .::. Size~: 74.38 KB | Jul 27 18:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] @schestowitz Can't tell much from the screenshot. Not clear that it is a format. Maybe Punch is an app? Or internal test system? | Jul 27 18:40 | |
| schestowitz | Geez. Maybe I'll remove Florian from the aggregator | Jul 27 18:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @rcweir worth finding out. It made me think of CDF vapourware | Jul 27 18:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman called BP "Bastard Polluter" this week http://ur1.ca/0utl7 | Jul 27 18:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The value of restricting choice - http://bit.ly/cnpSRZ nice debunking of a sneaky Microsoft trope about #choice #odf #ooxml | Jul 27 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: The value of restricting choice .::. Size~: 37.59 KB | Jul 27 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/home-mainmenu-289/6516-obama-to-women-i-am-not-your-friend- | Jul 27 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so as of a little while ago, I am being offered 2010.1 as an upgrade :) | Jul 27 18:51 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl I just searched google for Bagel to see if I was thinking of the same thing and found a post about schestowitz lol, it's the last thing I expected | Jul 27 18:51 |
| ThistleWeb | http://www.groupsrv.com/linux/about147052.html | Jul 27 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: CREAM CHEESE BAGEL LINUX PIMPING ROY SCHESTOWITZ YOU... .::. Size~: 10.57 KB | Jul 27 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah I will upgrade, but screenshots of some stuff first | Jul 27 18:51 |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Jul 27 18:51 | |
| ThistleWeb | the bizarre things you find on the internet these days lol | Jul 27 18:51 |
| ThistleWeb | http://fixunix.com/linux/499501-cream-cheese-bagel-linux-pimping-roy-schestowitz-you-sickfukk.html << another entry | Jul 27 18:53 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: CREAM CHEESE BAGEL LINUX PIMPING ROY SCHESTOWITZ YOU ARE A SICKFUKK! - Unix Linux Forum - Fixunix.com .::. Size~: 24.43 KB | Jul 27 18:53 |
| ThistleWeb | ^^ that one has a few threads and comments | Jul 27 18:53 |
| ThistleWeb | some people really shouldnt be allowed near computers | Jul 27 18:53 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jul 27 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Watch the lies beneath | Jul 27 18:54 |
| schestowitz | "Similar Threads" | Jul 27 18:54 |
| schestowitz | That's why I don't endorse giving inmates PCs :-) | Jul 27 18:55 |
| ThistleWeb | ya know, I searched for a pic of a bagel | Jul 27 18:55 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: crem cheese on bagel is sooo wrong | Jul 27 18:55 |
| ThistleWeb | I still have no clue as to how this is in any way bagel related | Jul 27 18:55 |
| *schestowitz doesn't eat bagels | Jul 27 18:56 | |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, bagels eat you? | Jul 27 18:56 |
| WireWulf | MinceR: only on fridays | Jul 27 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/25/chilcot-iraq-carne-ross | Jul 27 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Chilcot inquiry: Iraq expert Carne Ross claims civil servants are withholding vital documents | UK news | The Observer .::. Size~: 75.04 KB | Jul 27 18:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: sounds like pacman | Jul 27 18:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Climategate data sets to be made public - http://bit.ly/aPhBQC that's the way to do it #openness #climatescience #opendata | Jul 27 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | or Lurpac | Jul 27 18:58 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Climategate data sets to be made public - 27 July 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 41.48 KB | Jul 27 18:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lurpak.co.uk/ | Jul 27 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | Good on bagel | Jul 27 18:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/24/yes-men-documentary.html | Jul 27 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Yes Men documentary goes online via Bittorrent to evade censorship - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 47.82 KB | Jul 27 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Ha! | Jul 27 19:00 |
| schestowitz | That's why we need p2p | Jul 27 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/jd-hayworth-arizona-immigration-anger | Jul 27 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: JD Hayworth's Republican challenge to John McCain grows as anti-immigrant anger spills onto Arizona's streets | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 75.07 KB | Jul 27 19:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[doctorow] Pls RT! #Canadians: One month left to pick your fave #teen read! http://craphound.com/?p=3049 | Jul 27 19:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RT @DaHammerstein Differences EU/US on ACTA Patents, Geographical Indications, Industrial design, sanctions on end-users, commercial scale. | Jul 27 19:01 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Cory Doctorows craphound.com >> Blog Archive » Canadians: One month left to pick your favorite YA book! .::. Size~: 18.95 KB | Jul 27 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Does it seem like right-right-far-right-wing is gaining steam in the US? | Jul 27 19:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @DaHammerstein Differences EU/US on ACTA Patents, Geographical Indications, Industrial design, sanctions on end-users, commercial scale. | Jul 27 19:02 | |
| jstoddard | Let's see: In US we have far left owned by hollywood, and far right owned by big oil -- it seems like they've compromised very well, to the detriment of all... | Jul 27 19:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/giant_oil_skimmer_a_whale_deem.html | Jul 27 19:07 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Giant oil skimmer 'A Whale' deemed a bust for Gulf of Mexico spill | NOLA.com .::. Size~: 80.84 KB | Jul 27 19:07 |
| schestowitz | jstoddard: banks too | Jul 27 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Both sides | Jul 27 19:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Hahaha! [German] ROTFL of the day http://ruthe.de/index.php?pic=44 | Jul 27 19:08 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Willkommen bei Ruthe.de | Home .::. Size~: 8.37 KB | Jul 27 19:08 |
| jstoddard | Yep, the beauty of their so-called "bi-partisanship" -- everyone who's a mega-corporation wins, the rest of us lose... | Jul 27 19:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm Oh #Canada "Three Strikes for Industry and Heritage" http://www.ur1.ca/0utpt #fixc32 #Census #cdnpoli | Jul 27 19:11 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Three Strikes for Industry and Heritage « Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 28.21 KB | Jul 27 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://vodo.net/yesmen | Jul 27 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: THE YES MEN FIX THE WORLD — Peer-to-Peer Edition .::. Size~: 20.93 KB | Jul 27 19:12 |
| MinceR | some cults are also involved | Jul 27 19:12 |
| MinceR | clams, christians | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz | clams? | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz | clen? | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz | clem? | Jul 27 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Linux Mint Cabal | Jul 27 19:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] The New York Times sets one-day record for most unilluminating stories - http://bit.ly/bsTUf7 wow, serious #science #fail from the NYT here | Jul 27 19:13 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: As nation, Russia, and world swelter under record-smashing heat waves, The New York Times sets one-day record for most unilluminating stories « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 97.09 KB | Jul 27 19:13 |
| MinceR | co$ == clams | Jul 27 19:13 |
| schestowitz | what's co$? | Jul 27 19:14 |
| *Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: Aaarrrggghhh!!!) | Jul 27 19:14 | |
| MinceR | cult of $cientology | Jul 27 19:14 |
| MinceR | http://xenu.net/clam_faq.html | Jul 27 19:14 |
| schestowitz | wtf? | Jul 27 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.atheistmedia.com/2010/05/scientology-circus-of-stars.html | Jul 27 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Scientology - Circus of the Stars | Atheist Media Blog .::. Size~: 97.93 KB | Jul 27 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Steve Jobs could end up somewhere like this with Tom Cruise and Travolta... | Jul 27 19:16 |
| MinceR | blow has his own cult already, so he doesn't have much of a need for the clams | Jul 27 19:17 |
| schestowitz | It would excite his unresponsive antenna | Jul 27 19:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that cult has no need to uterus, either | Jul 27 19:18 |
| MinceR | shorter explanation: http://xenu.net/cb-faq.html#faq14 | Jul 27 19:18 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure Hubbold is dancing with the xenu as we speak | Jul 27 19:19 |
| schestowitz | In fact, I bet Xenu molests him | Jul 27 19:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ | Jul 27 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Tab Candy: Making Firefox Tabs Sweet « Aza on Design .::. Size~: 221.76 KB | Jul 27 19:19 |
| MinceR | i prefer not to lick onscreen elements | Jul 27 19:19 |
| schestowitz | All heel to xenu | Jul 27 19:20 |
| jstoddard | Ouch, my jaw! my jaw! hahahaha | Jul 27 19:20 |
| tessier | The server still has high load. hmm | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Blankenhorn/ZDNet troll: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/open-source-is-filled-with-freeloaders/6926 | Jul 27 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Open source is filled with freeloaders | ZDNet .::. Size~: 125.03 KB | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | TechrightsBot: it was down for 3 hours | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | 12-3 my time | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I was away | Jul 27 19:22 |
| tessier | schestowitz: Do you have any traffic stats that show anyone in particular referring lots of traffic or anything? | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | And sometimes when the load goes too high it stops serving and needs apache restarted | Jul 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | tessier: I tried looking yesterday, but I can't see much. Let me recheck | Jul 27 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ♺ @jwildeboer: Hahaha! [German] ROTFL of the day http://ruthe.de/index.php?pic=44 [Dutch] LOL, die van mij woont gelukkig in België :-D | Jul 27 19:23 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Willkommen bei Ruthe.de | Home .::. Size~: 8.37 KB | Jul 27 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Theater Owner Begs Hollywood Not To Give Consumers What They Want - http://bit.ly/aFs4Zo still utterly clueless #films #abundance | Jul 27 19:25 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Theater Owner Begs Hollywood Not To Give Consumers What They Want | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.56 KB | Jul 27 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] [NL] Belgische Lover heeft mijn GSM nummer niet :-P | Jul 27 19:26 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: just checked again. I can't find anything in referrer that stands out | Jul 27 19:27 |
| tessier | I notice a lot of the load comes from disk IO wait. | Jul 27 19:27 |
| tessier | I'll see about moving bn onto faster disks. | Jul 27 19:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @slashdot: Free Software, a Matter of Life and Death http://bit.ly/9oVgxQ | Jul 27 19:29 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Free Software, a Matter of Life and Death .::. Size~: 74.08 KB | Jul 27 19:29 |
| schestowitz | I thought something was clogging things up when I saw restarting helped | Jul 27 19:29 |
| schestowitz | But it only helped for like one minute | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Then it all piled up again | Jul 27 19:31 |
| schestowitz | BTW, from the stats I get a warped picture because all the IPs are the same and cached pages appear not to appear (I think) | Jul 27 19:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] Will #MSFT now finally pay or go supreme court with i4i patents? http://is.gd/dMJd5 #uhohxml #odf #neverending #swpat | Jul 27 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: CBC News - Money - Microsoft loses 3rd round to Canadian firm .::. Size~: 30.5 KB | Jul 27 19:33 |
| tessier | schestowitz: We can remove the proxy if you ever think it is more trouble than it is worth. Making the site more cacheable would help with the load as well. I'm surprised the server is still taking as many hits as it is. | Jul 27 19:35 |
| tessier | It must be generating a lot of uncacheable pages. | Jul 27 19:35 |
| schestowitz | With the caching? | Jul 27 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Or without? | Jul 27 19:35 |
| schestowitz | In don't even know how many hits it gets | Jul 27 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I do know many people read the site offline (as RSS) | Jul 27 19:35 |
| cubezzz3 | software patents are bad, even for Microsoft :) | Jul 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | They just grab RSS (full text+content), then read it without loading any pages | Jul 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | [19:35] <tessier> It must be generating a lot of uncacheable pages. | Jul 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | That's what the bots do | Jul 27 19:36 |
| schestowitz | They request daily pages | Jul 27 19:36 |
| MinceR | why are daily pages uncacheable? | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Which means extracting on the fly like 8 posts at the same time, oner request per second or so | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Those are the forged user-agent ones | Jul 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | oh, because new posts appear all day, i guess | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Also cause there are many pages to cache | Jul 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | is there a mechanism to hint the cache when to consider a page in need of an update? | Jul 27 19:37 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Jul 27 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: site:techrights.org - Google Search .::. Size~: 35.13 KB | Jul 27 19:37 |
| schestowitz | "About 16,400 results" | Jul 27 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | So my older brothers trying to get a lap top off Ebay, since hes moving out soon. | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | [19:37] <MinceR> is there a mechanism to hint the cache when to consider a page in need of an update? | Jul 27 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | again and properly this time it seems | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | There is | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | From WordPress | Jul 27 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | no OS with it though, and he wants me to put Linux on it :) | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | WordPress also caches pages internally | Jul 27 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | of course I worry about whatever wireless it gets, if that will work or not | Jul 27 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Caching had me stop looking at site stats. It's like looking at stats for uncaches content | Jul 27 19:41 |
| schestowitz | *ched | Jul 27 19:41 |
| tessier | I just added some more memory to the server so it can cache more disk/mysql. | Jul 27 19:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Android Will be Dominant Mobile OS According to Motorola’s Sanjay Jha - http://bit.ly/98L3Zh and another one #android #iphone | Jul 27 19:41 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Android Will be Dominant Mobile OS According to Motorolas Sanjay Jha | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 36.99 KB | Jul 27 19:41 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: novatech sells laptop without OS | Jul 27 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: got link? | Jul 27 19:41 |
| schestowitz | TechrightsBot: thanks! | Jul 27 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and how much are they? | Jul 27 19:42 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ | Jul 27 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | the one he is trying to get from Ebay is from some company, but he says its second hand | Jul 27 19:42 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: haven't checked since 2004/5 | Jul 27 19:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: I hope #microsoft goes to supreme court. More nails needed for #swpat coffin after #bilski | Jul 27 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Linux compatible | Jul 27 19:42 |
| *schestowitz uses Novatech machine ARM | Jul 27 19:42 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: just went on it | Jul 27 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | seem to be like £200 and such those lap tops | Jul 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | No OS | Jul 27 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: where exact link? | Jul 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Good quality HW | Jul 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Other told me so too | Jul 27 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | Other? | Jul 27 19:44 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I don't just see that on the site | Jul 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Take your time | Jul 27 19:45 |
| schestowitz | You can inquire with them, it's not my site, I'm not their expert | Jul 27 19:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Android Will be Dominant Mobile OS According to Motorola’s Sanjay Jha - http://bit.ly/98L3Zh | Jul 27 19:46 | |
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| schestowitz | If it turns out they no longer off the option of No-OS for laptop, let me know so that I can stop pointing people at their direction | Jul 27 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: can do with or without OS | Jul 27 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/laptop/all/ | Jul 27 19:47 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well its over £200 for like the cheapest good lap top | Jul 27 19:48 |
| cubezzz3 | sebsebseb, I looked at tons of laptops | Jul 27 19:50 |
| cubezzz3 | my conclusion was used panasonic toughbook was the best | Jul 27 19:50 |
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| yuhong | On the word "crApple": http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/07/imacs-with-i7-ssd-and-magic-trackpad-make-their-debut.ars?comments=1&start=80#comments-bar | Jul 27 19:51 |
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| *schestowitz needs to experiment with his 10-y-o laptop | Jul 27 19:51 | |
| yuhong | MinceR used it quite often here. | Jul 27 19:52 |
| cubezzz3 | yeah he always says that :) | Jul 27 19:52 |
| yuhong | Scroll down to comments on the above link. | Jul 27 19:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New: #PlainSight is a versatile computer forensics environment that allows inexperienced forensic practitioners http://ur1.ca/0uuc4 | Jul 27 19:55 | |
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| schestowitz | yuhong has left | Jul 27 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Contribution: none? | Jul 27 19:57 |
| schestowitz | The Microsofters at IDG tells us how Open Source should be :-) http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/64150 | Jul 27 19:58 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Passwords in the wild, part I: the gap between theory and implementation - http://bit.ly/bNOXhs worrying, but not so surprising #passwords | Jul 27 19:59 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Drupal trademark policy: update after 11 months - http://bit.ly/a2Dx8Y an often-overlooksed aspect of free software #trademarks | Jul 27 20:01 | |
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| cubevector | it would be good to know if _any_ vendor offers a no OS option | Jul 27 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: which country? | Jul 27 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: he doesn't want to pay that much for one, and doesn't care about brand new, so even £200 is a lot | Jul 27 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz3: ^ | Jul 27 20:06 |
| cubevector | yeah so a good used one is fine | Jul 27 20:12 |
| cubevector | just check ebay carefully | Jul 27 20:12 |
| cubevector | I'm in Canada | Jul 27 20:12 |
| *DaemonFC thinks we should put Carly Fiorina on eBay Canada | Jul 27 20:12 | |
| DaemonFC | along with Meg Whitman | Jul 27 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Carly Fiorina broke the glass ceiling and became the first female CEO of HP | Jul 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | and it only took her like 2-3 years to ruin them | Jul 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | now she wants to be a US senator from California | Jul 27 20:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Software Compilation 4.5 RC3 Release Announcement http://ur1.ca/0uuiz nearly out now, most functional desktop | Jul 27 20:15 | |
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| tessier | schestowitz: If you don't care about yahoo and msn bots indexing the site we could ban anyone with that user-agent outright. | Jul 27 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | I figured there would be an RC3 | Jul 27 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | RC2 was temperamental | Jul 27 20:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Free & OpenSource Payment Shopping Cart http://www.opencart.com | Jul 27 20:16 | |
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| cubevector | HP is kind of messed up | Jul 27 20:17 |
| cubevector | they used to be good though | Jul 27 20:17 |
| cubevector | tessier, I think you could safely ban msn bots | Jul 27 20:18 |
| cubevector | the bots are just over the top anyway | Jul 27 20:18 |
| tessier | I see YandexBot/3.0 too, whatever that is | Jul 27 20:19 |
| tessier | According to some grepping of the logs 20% of BN traffic is bots. | Jul 27 20:20 |
| cubevector | yeah | Jul 27 20:20 |
| cubevector | I did this a while ago: | Jul 27 20:21 |
| cubevector | User-agent: MJ12bot (or whatever) | Jul 27 20:21 |
| cubevector | Disallow: / | Jul 27 20:22 |
| cubevector | put it in /var/www/maxhost/robots.txt (or similar) | Jul 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Internet Explorer 4.01 (compatible; Microsoft Search, MSN Search, Windows Live Search,Bing Search) Windows NT-ish | Jul 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 20:23 |
| cubevector | some bots are broken | Jul 27 20:24 |
| cubevector | they go crazy | Jul 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | here's an idea | Jul 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | ban IE 6 and lower? | Jul 27 20:24 |
| cubevector | why not? | Jul 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | all Microsoft web crawlers ID themselves as IE 6 or lower | Jul 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | anyone using IE 6 or lower is obviously a retard | Jul 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | just ban it | Jul 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 20:25 |
| cubevector | or "We see your using IE ver XXX. For the best anti-Microsoft experience techrights recommends Non-IE" ;-) | Jul 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | "We see you're using IE 6, which is 9 year old. You can't possibly have missed the fact that most modern websites are telling you to go screw yourself and that it has like 500 unpatched security holes. If you're trapped behind a corporate network, you have our sincerest sympathy, otherwise please come back in a standards compliant browser such as Firefox, Chrome, or Opera. Thank you." | Jul 27 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | [02:05:11] <schestowitz> Diablo-D3: http://vodo.net/yesmen | Jul 27 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | seen it | Jul 27 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC | Opera is like a swiss army knife. | Jul 27 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | IE is like old swiss cheese, full of holes and it stinks. | Jul 27 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 20:29 |
| MinceR | what am i supposed to see at yuhong's link? | Jul 27 20:29 |
| MinceR | that arstechnica are a bunch of crApple cultists? | Jul 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | and they ban dissenters? | Jul 27 20:30 |
| cubevector | overuse of the word 'crApple'? :) | Jul 27 20:30 |
| cubevector | never sure what yuhong's on about | Jul 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | not as overused as the word "Apple" to refer to industrial waste | Jul 27 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox 4.0 isn't particularly bad I guess | Jul 27 20:30 |
| MinceR | instead of a fruit that's way too acidic without proper processing | Jul 27 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not as "edgy" as they used to be | Jul 27 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | they've lost their groove :P | Jul 27 20:31 |
| cubevector | I never did like Apple | Jul 27 20:31 |
| cubevector | Apple IIe's were way more expensive than Commodore | Jul 27 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | at least Mozilla finally noticed that 64-bit Linux exists | Jul 27 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 20:31 |
| *MinceR slaps DaemonFC with an Edgy Eft | Jul 27 20:31 | |
| MinceR | i never liked crApple, either | Jul 27 20:32 |
| *DaemonFC smacks MinceR with a Daffy Duck | Jul 27 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 20:32 |
| *MinceR dodges with inhuman speed and agility | Jul 27 20:32 | |
| cubevector | Sun probably had the best hardware | Jul 27 20:32 |
| *MinceR slaps DaemonFC with a Bugs Bunny | Jul 27 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Duck season! | Jul 27 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | fire! | Jul 27 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Jul 27 20:32 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | Aaaaah! Have some cheese, rat! | Jul 27 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Daffy Duck was always my favorite :P | Jul 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | Bugs Bunny was always mine | Jul 27 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | you got illegal Mexicans complaining about Speedy Gonzales cartoons now | Jul 27 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 27 20:34 |
| cubevector | but Speedy always won | Jul 27 20:34 |
| cubevector | I don't get it | Jul 27 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | I know, Slowpoke Rodriquez more accurately stereotypes Mexicans | Jul 27 20:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] You are a geek if: you spot what's missing immediately. http://www.last.fm/robots.txt HT @deathboyuk | Jul 27 20:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gotta love BP for caring so much [IMG] http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1241_signs.jpg #bpcares | Jul 27 20:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBpk0L42jgE&feature=fvw | Jul 27 20:37 |
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| DaemonFC | they played this in one of my classes | Jul 27 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | like 1st grade :P | Jul 27 20:38 |
| cubevector | lol, the irony | Jul 27 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUqv8iVLYLo | Jul 27 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: YouTube- Apple's Coolest Product Ever. Seriously. .::. Size~: 100.65 KB | Jul 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's one MinceR will appreciate | Jul 27 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peqnSTBnTVk | Jul 27 20:43 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 27 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | $1300 to get an ad on the Glenn Beck show | Jul 27 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | 30 seconds, 7 times | Jul 27 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | they must be getting desperate | Jul 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | when you piss off just about everyone, that tends to happen I guess | Jul 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | and that's after Google took their cut | Jul 27 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | damn it | Jul 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | that scared me | Jul 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I heard a high pitched whining noise and thought it was my computer | Jul 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it turns out it's that asshole downstairs vacuuming out his car | Jul 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 20:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This time, for a change, I am actually happy to learn about pirates being sent to prison http://ur1.ca/0uuwn #realpiracy | Jul 27 20:50 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Seychelles sentences Somali pirates to ten years in prison - Wikinews, the free news source .::. Size~: 34.58 KB | Jul 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703700904575391273536355324.html noooooooooooooooo.. the shiny! | Jul 27 20:50 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Citi Discloses Security Flaw in Its iPhone App - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 132.07 KB | Jul 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | you know, Sarah Palin was right, MinceR | Jul 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | about one thing | Jul 27 20:50 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz_log | Jul 27 20:50 | |
| MinceR | the citi always sucks | Jul 27 20:50 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Jul 27 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | you wind Joe Biden up and he goes on and on and on | Jul 27 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | *wind* The Joe Biden says.......SQWAAAAK!!! Walk the planck!!!! | Jul 27 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | [20:24] <cubevector> some bots are broken | Jul 27 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's no wonder they don't let him out much | Jul 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | I think that's what happens sometimes | Jul 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.perl.org/users/cpan_testers/2010/01/msnbot-must-die.html | Jul 27 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC | he embarrasses the administration every time someone puts a camera in front of him | Jul 27 20:52 |
| *cubevector hands DaemonFC a wind-up Joe Biden doll | Jul 27 20:52 | |
| MinceR | cubevector: you're the guy that's into non-x86 boxen, right? | Jul 27 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | like when he admitted all those jobs are never coming back | Jul 27 20:52 |
| cubevector | MinceR, I'm trying to be | Jul 27 20:53 |
| cubevector | looking for a good Sun box still | Jul 27 20:53 |
| MinceR | are all ARM boxen plagued by the powervr driver problem? | Jul 27 20:53 |
| cubevector | never had a problem on zaurus | Jul 27 20:54 |
| cubevector | other ones I don't know | Jul 27 20:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard You are a geek if: you spot what's missing immediately. http://www.last.fm/robots.txt HT @deathboyuk | Jul 27 20:54 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:46] <DaemonFC> $1300 to get an ad on the Glenn Beck show | Jul 27 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | the jobs will come back when we agree to work 7 days a week in 12 hour shifts for 20 cents an hour with no overtime pay | Jul 27 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 20:55 |
| MinceR | and what do you know about GPU-s available for non-x86 in general with good free drivers for Linux? | Jul 27 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Propaganda in a propaganda show? | Jul 27 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | without OSHA protections | Jul 27 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | actually, that's not even true | Jul 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | we could work for free and dissolve OSHA and the Chinese would still outbid us | Jul 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | because we have the environmental protection laws | Jul 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | which is the primary thign moving to Mexico and China allows these outfits to ignore | Jul 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | so unless we're willing to dissolve OSHA, the EPA, and the wage and hour laws, China will win every time | Jul 27 20:57 |
| cubevector | MinceR, I would have to ask some people into Sun boxes | Jul 27 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | the only time the US invokes anti-dumping tariffs is when it protects employers of illegal aliens | Jul 27 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | like the Florida orange growers | Jul 27 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | they employ illegal aliens by the thousands | Jul 27 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | and they still can't compete with orange growers in Brazil | Jul 27 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | so the government invokes anti-dumping and charges a 20% tariff on oranges from Brazil | Jul 27 20:59 |
| MinceR | cubevector: well, you're into sun boxes now, aren't you? :> | Jul 27 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | why does the government never use anti-dumping laws to protect American citizens from losing their jobs? | Jul 27 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | they have no problem stepping in to protect law breaking corporations who hire thousands of illegal immigrants | Jul 27 21:00 |
| cubevector | I'm actually looking around | Jul 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | but when it's American citizens, it's "anti-dumping laws are uncompetitive, we couldn't possibly do that!" | Jul 27 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | you notice this? | Jul 27 21:00 |
| cubevector | I can tell you all about Sun1 if you want :) | Jul 27 21:00 |
| cubevector | Nvidia doesn't seem to have anything non-x86/x64 | Jul 27 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | X86-64 is the proper name for the arch | Jul 27 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | x64 is a Microsoft-ism | Jul 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 27 21:01 |
| MinceR | or perhaps x86_64 | Jul 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 27 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | just like bytecode is suddenly "managed code" | Jul 27 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | hey, rip em off and hsoe it down with new car smell! | Jul 27 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter | Jul 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft doesn't go to bed with Intel now | Jul 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | It uses its ARM | Jul 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jul 27 21:02 |
| cubevector | non-x86 is kind of a problem | Jul 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | To Microsoft | Jul 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | ISVs | Jul 27 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | some distros still call it AMD64, because AMD was the only processor line to have implemented it at the time | Jul 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Photoshop, games, etc | Jul 27 21:03 |
| cubevector | MinceR, you can get Amiga's on ebay :) | Jul 27 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | and it's still the best way to run X86-64 | Jul 27 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Intel's support is badly broken | Jul 27 21:03 |
| cubevector | probably not what you want though | Jul 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | All compiled for x8sicks | Jul 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | what, m$ uses ARM now? | Jul 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | haven't heard of that | Jul 27 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Intel sabotages their X86-64 Long Mode support | Jul 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: zune | Jul 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | freescale | Jul 27 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | by disabling optimized branch predictions | Jul 27 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | and other nice stuff | Jul 27 21:04 |
| cubevector | MinceR, off topic, but I think I should be able to complete my first AROS box today | Jul 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: that's hardly their focus | Jul 27 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | so their CPUs actually run slower in Long Mode | Jul 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: anyway, it was a joke about Microsoft becoming a wanker | Jul 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: they're dragging their feet there | Jul 27 21:04 |
| MinceR | becoming? | Jul 27 21:04 |
| cubevector | Microsoft was bad in the 70's :) | Jul 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | They have no feet | Jul 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | They are sharks | Jul 27 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | with AMD's X86-64 mode, you're looking at a slight performance gain depending on what you're doing | Jul 27 21:05 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft shark is dragging its fins | Jul 27 21:05 |
| cubevector | probably SparcStation 20 MinceR, they're not too bad | Jul 27 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | anything from 1% on up to 15% to give you an idea | Jul 27 21:05 |
| cubevector | I see those on ebay sometimes | Jul 27 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | with Intel X86-64 you almost always lose some performance | Jul 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | cubevector: so no new ones? | Jul 27 21:05 |
| *MinceR dislikes used stuff | Jul 27 21:05 | |
| DaemonFC | because they've removed a lot of optimizations | Jul 27 21:06 |
| cubevector | not sure about new stuff | Jul 27 21:06 |
| MinceR | not sure about sun hw's future now | Jul 27 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I may try going back to KDE 4.5 when it's finalized | Jul 27 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | RC2 was pretty rough | Jul 27 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | but it's moving in the right direction | Jul 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | cubevector: And yes, the packages for Mandriva are optimized for Mandriva | Jul 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | they're a side project by a few employees | Jul 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | jsut not officially supported | Jul 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | so it's going to be stable right before distros bump it for 5.0? :> | Jul 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: basically | Jul 27 21:09 |
| MinceR | s/bump/dump/ | Jul 27 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | then you'll have people stuck on the 4.x branch saying that it's stable and performs well | Jul 27 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | and complaining that 5.0 krashes all the time and can't even play CDs | Jul 27 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:09 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Cuana | Jul 27 21:09 | |
| MinceR | people using 3.5 saying that 4.x is unstable but 3.5 is stable, people using 4.x and saying that it's stable but 5.x is not, and people using 5.x? :> | Jul 27 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | I dunno, part of the reason 3.x wasn't a major shake-up is because it was really just an extension of the 2.0 branch | Jul 27 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | maybe 5.x will be something like that | Jul 27 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | 4.0 was a pretty invasive rewrite | Jul 27 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: 4.4.x is really where people should have stopped complaining and gotten off of 3.5 I think | Jul 27 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's my opinion | Jul 27 21:11 |
| cubevector | Sun is really good for server | Jul 27 21:11 |
| cubevector | but price/performance they are probably not the best | Jul 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | i'll see 4.4 | Jul 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | or 4.5 | Jul 27 21:12 |
| MinceR | but i'm not going to hold my breath | Jul 27 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | 4.4 has good stability and all the features from 3.5.x are back and then some | Jul 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | it took them a few years, but I think they probably have a better platform than 3.5.10 finally | Jul 27 21:14 |
| squarepe1 | I'm going to be keeping an eye on KDE | Jul 27 21:14 |
| cubevector | no, KDE 4+ is too slow for me | Jul 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva even fixed the Pulseaudio integration nightmare | Jul 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:14 |
| *squarepe1 is now known as squarepeg | Jul 27 21:14 | |
| MinceR | does kwin still glitch in window decorations when compositing is off? | Jul 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora snagged those patches and used them | Jul 27 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't experienced any glitches in KDE apps | Jul 27 21:15 |
| MinceR | does plasma-desktop like to crash if you add or remove a monitor via xrandr? | Jul 27 21:15 |
| cubevector | "On multi-core and multi-socket machines, Solaris will always have the upper hand. Sun has put tons of effort into their LWP threading model. (M:N I believe) Since Sun through the 90’s was mainly a high performance hardware provider in addition to a UNIX vendor, their commercial compilers which are now free to use are more optimized, especially on Opteron and SPARC processors." | Jul 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | Catalyst 10.6 didn't like GTK+ apps much | Jul 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | even when they were running within GNOME | Jul 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | 10.7 seems to be a little better about that | Jul 27 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | every one in a while with Catalyst 10.6, you'd have a GTK+ app go black if you have any kind of compositing enabled | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | minimizing and restoring it redrew the widgets properly | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | it happened just enough to piss you off | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen Catalyst 10.7 do that yet | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | but they have just replaced their entire 2d acceleration architecture, and even with the bugs that were in 10.6, it was far more tolerable than the old archtiecture | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | before that it was flip on compositing and if you didn't crash everything, get ready for some SLOW | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | now they're probably on par with Nvidia's drivers, if not faster | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'm happy, and I'm the one that has to live with whatever ATI decides to do to me this month, so I guess that's what's important :P | Jul 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I've had some real fun times with Nvidia before though too | Jul 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | especially with bleeding edge kernels | Jul 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | panic, freeze the computer | Jul 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | refuse to build the module at all and bail | Jul 27 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | that sort of thing | Jul 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://tinyogg.com/watch/pDz2O/ | Jul 27 21:20 |
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| DaemonFC | ohhh | Jul 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | my GPU is accelerating this | Jul 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | nice :) | Jul 27 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yes, I hear your prison population exploded due to importing our 3 strikes laws | Jul 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | 26 years for stealing 4 chocolate chip cookies | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | were those the cookies that granted the one who ate them immortality and perfect health? | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | and the recipe was lost after making only the initial 4 | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | and now nobody will ever be able to reverse engineer the cookies of immortality? | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | fry the bastard! | Jul 27 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they use them as free labour | Jul 27 21:24 |
| schestowitz | I.e. new slavery | Jul 27 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Jul 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Black people in jail used as slaves to make war gear | Jul 27 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | do an 8 hour shift and we'll give you a pack of cigarettes | Jul 27 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:25 |
| cubevector | my very unscientific test: | Jul 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Not good... | Jul 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | I'm starting to think cons are some of the more productive in the US | Jul 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Now, if only they made fewer war items | Jul 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | "Sir, I don't want a job that makes weapons" | Jul 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Warden: "we'll throw you in the dark cell then" | Jul 27 21:26 |
| cubevector | http://maxhost.org/other/glxgears.txt | Jul 27 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | You essentially force them to do the equiv. of Nazi 'labour' camp, only without the gas chamber and incinerators | Jul 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Something to bear in mind when the US advocates "human rights" around the world | Jul 27 21:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 27/7/2010: CentOS Dominates and some other news picks from the day http://techrights.org/2010/07/27/centos-dominates/ | Jul 27 21:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | it was a fair deal | Jul 27 21:39 |
| Cuana | americans dont like my legal name as my nick xD | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | we were occupying Mexico City, they signed the "Peace Accord" | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | they "gave" use their land | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | voluntarily you see? | Jul 27 21:39 |
| Cuana | always | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | *us | Jul 27 21:39 |
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| DaemonFC | well, it's ironic that nobody remembers how Texas went from part of Mexico, to renegade province, to short-lived Republic, to statehood in the USA | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | it was because of a lot of illegal American immigrants that eventually overwhelmed the actual Mexican population there | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | then declared independence | Jul 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 27 21:39 |
| -tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi, as you're no doubt aware some of our equipment is having connectivity issues. We're looking to resolve this presently. Appologies for the noise and thanks for using freenode! | Jul 27 21:40 | |
| DaemonFC | the whole reason they applied for statehood was to draw the United States into their war | Jul 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | now they're talking, half-assedly about secession | Jul 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | which would never work | Jul 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | the "Republic of Texas" was never legitimately, really, an independent state | Jul 27 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | most of their residents had American citizenship | Jul 27 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | the US Dollar was the currency | Jul 27 21:41 |
| MinceR | THINK CRAZY: Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, John Boehner >> (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhDFspfslsI | Jul 27 21:41 |
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| DaemonFC | the only people under the "Republic of Texas" that lacked US citizenship were those born there between 1836 and 1846 | Jul 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | then US citizenship was automatically given to them upon statehood | Jul 27 21:42 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: lol @ your earlier link (bumper ad) | Jul 27 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | so nobody over the age of 10 ever had Texas citizenship but not US citizenship | Jul 27 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 21:43 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Basically the Republic of Texas was a phoney independent state that was allowed to exist for a while with a nod and a wink | Jul 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | so it wouldn't look like the US was bullying Mexico and stealing their territory :D | Jul 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'd liken it to the deal between South Ossetia and Russia | Jul 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | this "Republic of South Ossetia" will eventually be absorbed as a Russian territory | Jul 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | and they won't even pretend it's anything else | Jul 27 21:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: ♺ @maryjofoley: The federal cloud: Another Microsoft vs. Google battleground: http://bit.ly/bPfGfO | Jul 27 21:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] How to download Youtube Videos in webm format http://post.ly/p3n9 | Jul 27 21:59 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How to download Youtube Videos in webm format - LUG@IITD Community Blog .::. Size~: 28.01 KB | Jul 27 21:59 |
| Cuana | party foods taste like better at a party then by yourse;f | Jul 27 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 27 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Grub 2 is an option in OpenSuse 11.3? | Jul 27 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | is that just for the DVD or will the LiveCDs let you do it too? | Jul 27 22:15 |
| Cuana | Grub 2 just when you have learned Grub .97 you have to rerelearn grub all ver again | Jul 27 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Grub 0.97 is abandoned upstream | Jul 27 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | and distros are playing patch monkey with it | Jul 27 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | so it never works quite the same way in each distro that ships it :P | Jul 27 22:17 |
| Cuana | :P | Jul 27 22:17 |
| Cuana | planed obslessance | Jul 27 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 27 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | no Suse Studio for 11.3 yet | Jul 27 22:24 |
| Cuana | heh | Jul 27 22:26 |
| *Cuana uses CYGWIN here lately | Jul 27 22:27 | |
| *MinceR uses Kubuntu and Debian | Jul 27 22:28 | |
| Cuana | buntu is evil | Jul 27 22:28 |
| Cuana | buntu is a coperation taking unmarited credit for debian be=ased ideas | Jul 27 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if OpenSuse compiled Firefox with GCC 4.5 | Jul 27 22:29 |
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| DaemonFC | cause Mozilla was complaining that 4.5 slows Firefox down by a lot | Jul 27 22:29 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft Belittles #ODF , Using the “Choice”-Themed Lies (and Why #Google Should Offer ODF as a Choice) http://ur1.ca/0uvwc | Jul 27 22:30 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Well, I am now using Firefox 4 beta as Webm Player because 'installed VLC' cannot play it. Firefox as Media Player #ff4beta1 | Jul 27 22:31 | |
| MinceR | i know, i'm getting off *ubuntu | Jul 27 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva built OOo with the OOXML patch from Novell I think | Jul 27 22:39 |
| MinceR | gn | Jul 27 22:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US Supreme Court May Have Another Chance to Eliminate Software Patents, But It’s Up to #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/0uw40 #Bilski #swpats #i4i | Jul 27 22:53 | |
| TechrightsBot | Title: US Supreme Court May Have Another Chance to Eliminate Software Patents, But Its Up to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.87 KB | Jul 27 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=130179 | Jul 27 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva's firings seem to start with their GNOME maintainers | Jul 27 22:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] O Manuel Joao tem o meu voto! ♺ @ArturAnjos: Eu acho que nós eramos meninos para recolher as assinaturas para o @Vieira_2011 ir às urnas... | Jul 27 23:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm trying Oblivion again | Jul 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | last time was Wine 1.2-rc5 and Catalyst 10.5, and it didn't go over so well | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=3097&pn=2 | Jul 27 23:09 |
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| DaemonFC | well, it worked fine up until I started a new game and it froze the computer | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | christ that is so lol | Jul 27 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | HEY ORACLE | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | BUY ME | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | DO IT NOW | Jul 27 23:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | I ACCEPT CASH AND CREDIT CARD, NO OUT OF STATE CHECKS PLEASE | Jul 27 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | How about a second-party check? | Jul 27 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 27 23:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Flaw in #Windows Facilitates More #DDOS Attacks http://techrights.org/2010/07/27/shoddy-microsoft-windows/ | Jul 27 23:11 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.sun.com/bmc/entry/good_bye_sun | Jul 27 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | [22:39] <DaemonFC> Mandriva built OOo with the OOXML patch from Novell I think | Jul 27 23:18 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: gee golly, that article reads like if Thomas Pain wrote a Common Sense on how to create a good in many ways as well as profit software business model. | Jul 27 23:19 |
| schestowitz | They used to package it with Mono until I complained and they used go-oo | Jul 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | theirs allows you to save to Office 2007 OOXML | Jul 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I looked in the Extensions list and nothing is said about OOXML export | Jul 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I know it's not an upstream feature | Jul 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | well, a lot of distros use Go-OO | Jul 27 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | because unfortunately, Go-OO is better in many ways | Jul 27 23:20 |
| schestowitz | [23:10] <DaemonFC> How about a second-party check? | Jul 27 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Don't take it! | Jul 27 23:20 |
| schestowitz | His step-dad is Gonad! | Jul 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Jul 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | good old Gonad The Barbarian | Jul 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | wonder what he's up to | Jul 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | my mom divorced him | Jul 27 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: which article? | Jul 27 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | his grandson is in kiddie jail again | Jul 27 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | his son-in-law is in state prison | Jul 27 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | his daughter is a welfare queen | Jul 27 23:21 |
| schestowitz | [23:21] <DaemonFC> his grandson is in kiddie jail again | Jul 27 23:21 |
| schestowitz | What's that? | Jul 27 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | and he moved his ex-wife in and remarried her even though she has a conviction list longer than your arm | Jul 27 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | and can't get a job | Jul 27 23:22 |
| schestowitz | A place where you must never drop a lollipop in the shower? | Jul 27 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Jail is for adults | Jul 27 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Young kids have some other detention things | Jul 27 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | he moved her in because he needed someone to watch his grandson because he was court ordered to never leave him alone | Jul 27 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | as a condition of them letting him out of kiddie jail the first time | Jul 27 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | after raping his sisters and his step-brother | Jul 27 23:22 |
| schestowitz | What is he, a bisexual pervert aged 12? | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | blaming about 8-9 different people in a row for "molesting him", kept changing his story | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | failed a polygraph test every time | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | age 15 now | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | but yeah, like 12 when he did that | Jul 27 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Honad Jr. | Jul 27 23:23 |
| schestowitz | *Go | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Gonad the 3rd | Jul 27 23:23 |
| schestowitz | *Go Go Gonad | Jul 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | his felonious uncle is Gonad Jr. :D | Jul 27 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Neds sterilising | Jul 27 23:24 |
| schestowitz | *needs | Jul 27 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | and his other uncle, the one that has no criminal record, won't go anywhere near the family | Jul 27 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | and wants nothing to do with Gonad | Jul 27 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | go figure :D | Jul 27 23:24 |
| schestowitz | What's his real name? | Jul 27 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Bubba? | Jul 27 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Gonad the Bubbabian | Jul 27 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Brian | Jul 27 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | just one letter off from having a Brain | Jul 27 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 23:25 |
| schestowitz | "Read your Why We Will Post More, Not Less, admire your spirit, but do not even mention they are bothering you they will just do it more [...] Especially as today you said you have lost valuable time, they will register this and be worse, shites that they are best to ignore them" | Jul 27 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gonad went into the army aged 17, because the judge told him it was that or prison | Jul 27 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | after stealing a truckload of tires | Jul 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | OK, so they gave him a gun | Jul 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Someone commits crime | Jul 27 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | basically, yeah | Jul 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | So you give him a gun | Jul 27 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | and he was a drill instructor when he retired | Jul 27 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | But first you ship him /away/ | Jul 27 23:26 |
| schestowitz | peferably to somewhere with lots of oil and "brown people" | Jul 27 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | no, he never was deployed | Jul 27 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | anywhere | Jul 27 23:27 |
| schestowitz | It makes a "lunattic state" | Jul 27 23:27 |
| schestowitz | lunnatic | Jul 27 23:27 |
| schestowitz | The state sends its worst thugs out | Jul 27 23:27 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I was reffering to Bryan Cantrill's article on leaving Sun Microsystems. They seemed to have such an amazing business model, its too bad more clients didn't appretiate. Then again he could be painting a rose colored picture of the place from within. I have read some articles on discruntled former employees who worked as MySQL admins. | Jul 27 23:28 |
| schestowitz | or mysql itselgf | Jul 27 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Monty and others like Mickos left | Jul 27 23:28 |
| schestowitz | I think Monty said he "hated it" | Jul 27 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe that was David | Jul 27 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | he told me one time I should respect him for that | Jul 27 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | I told him I respected the people that weren't there because they were convicted | Jul 27 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | he was pissed | Jul 27 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Yeah.. | Jul 27 23:30 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I think those people should compare how Sun Micro handled aquisitions within its twilight years to how Oracle is handling Sun's former assets now. | Jul 27 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Well, I'd never serve any military | Jul 27 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I would if it wasn't for the UN | Jul 27 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Unless.. evil aliens invaded :0-) | Jul 27 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | and their damned "peacekeeping forces" | Jul 27 23:30 |
| schestowitz | But if they can travel this far they'd wipe us within seconds | Jul 27 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | deploying to Somalia on orders from the UN | Jul 27 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | how does that serve the US? | Jul 27 23:31 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: just serve in NATO and be above those blue helmet blimies | Jul 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | hell with them | Jul 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | let the Somalis kill and eat each other | Jul 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | damned muslims | Jul 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 23:31 |
| schestowitz | They don't eat each other | Jul 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | sure | Jul 27 23:32 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: the American Army on its own and IDF don't give much credance for the UN volunteered forces either. The UN are mostly Finnish or French anyway. | Jul 27 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's what they tell you anyway | Jul 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I think some Pacific islands are the last where cannibalism existed recently | Jul 27 23:32 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: sometimes Argentinian or Italian too | Jul 27 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I say they rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin to make their clothes | Jul 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: a Norwegian friend of mine served NATO | Jul 27 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | and if you're very lucky, they'll do it in that order | Jul 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | In Bosnian | Jul 27 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jul 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | NATO gave them stimulating drugs | Jul 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | *Bosnia | Jul 27 23:32 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: something has to keep those pilots up to bomb around the clock ;-) | Jul 27 23:33 |
| schestowitz | tick-tock | Jul 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | uhhm, the Nazis used meth | Jul 27 23:33 |
| schestowitz | bim-BOM | Jul 27 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | for blitzkrieg | Jul 27 23:33 |
| schestowitz | So did the Arabic soldiers back in the days | Jul 27 23:34 |
| *DaemonFC is having a lot of fun with Mandriva | Jul 27 23:34 | |
| schestowitz | Many armies take drugs to alleviate fear | Jul 27 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | they finally made KDE's pulseaudio integration tolerable | Jul 27 23:34 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: the USAF pioneered the use of amphetamines on long patrol and bombing missions that could penetrate deep into the USSR | Jul 27 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | not some second rate bolt-it-on after the fact catastrophe | Jul 27 23:34 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: but as of 1991 they supposedly stopped the sanctioned use of such drugs | Jul 27 23:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: drug use in armies is bad PR | Jul 27 23:35 |
| schestowitz | I guess Wikileaks may help show the extent of it | Jul 27 23:35 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I guess your friend tells something a bit different | Jul 27 23:35 |
| schestowitz | You never want to say your country is 'defended' by a "a bunch of dopes" | Jul 27 23:36 |
| Ziomatrix | Janjaweed ftw | Jul 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | One moment they are on a helicopter smoking joijnts and watching Rambo | Jul 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | The next moment they raid something and shout | Jul 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20011592-64.html | Jul 27 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Firefox 'CPU resources' issue better but not gone | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 124.03 KB | Jul 27 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | well, it loads this time, but it's slow :P | Jul 27 23:40 |
| *DaemonFC tries turning off HDR and loading again :P | Jul 27 23:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, if you disable KWin, Oblivion becomes quite playable | Jul 27 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | I guess Wine still doesn't get on well with compositors | Jul 27 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I had direct rendering on | Jul 27 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | how the hell did I manage that? | Jul 27 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | turning it off lets Oblivion work fine with KWin compositing | Jul 27 23:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Nice twist to the previous news of removal ♺ @rsandu: @svjn #Dell expands #Ubuntu #Linux desktop offerings http://is.gd/dN8YL #gnu #dell | Jul 27 23:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Where is the setting for bouncy icons at? | Jul 27 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | I've been meaning to disable that | Jul 27 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | found it :P | Jul 27 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | very distracting | Jul 27 23:54 |
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