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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 31/7/2010: Google's GNU/Linux Strategy, YAFFS2 http://techrights.org/2010/07/31/yaffs2/Aug 01 00:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Which MS advocate said this: "web centric operating system is not viable today, next year, 5 years or even 10 years from now" answer Sunday!Aug 01 00:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] BTW its not the same one that claimed the Kin was the greatest social networking phone ever built. MS advocates, got to love em.Aug 01 00:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] _ @azaaza TabCandy with FullScreen is the most awesome thing in the world.Aug 01 00:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] List of LUG@IITD Community Blog Posts - July 2010 http://post.ly/pekTAug 01 01:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] _ @azaaza What is the shortcut key for TabCandy Panel. Clicking again and again with mouse on uppermost right part is a painAug 01 01:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] An outburst of bile (by me). http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PapyrusAug 01 01:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @BoingBoing @Wikileaks volunteer detained http://bit.ly/bWHiW1Aug 01 01:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] We are starting a new Chapter - OpenWebIndia Thx @rakesh314 @hiddenharmony @shwetank and All Others Fellows #openwebindiaAug 01 02:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Today I am the Awful Poo Lady of human stupidity. http://www.conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_an_Old_EarthAug 01 02:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @Caterina: There's a great article in August @wired about @hunch! http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/07/ff_caterina_fake/Aug 01 02:18
TechrightsBotTitle: What You Want: Flickr Creator Spins Addictive New Web Service | Magazine .::. Size~: 68.56 KBAug 01 02:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @goeh: Office Open XML (Microsoft) is a brain dead, stupid, ugly document format from hell! OpenDocument (OpenOffice) is clean & logical.Aug 01 02:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Absolutely rocking (pun intended) Severed Fifth rehearsal today. :-) #severedfifthAug 01 02:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] http://hackable-devices.org for all hackersAug 01 02:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Kiss This War Goodbye http://nyti.ms/9GyilB http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Special:SupportAug 01 02:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks speaker detained on entering US http://bit.ly/9BDQlh vote no: http://bit.ly/cpxJWCAug 01 02:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] It is time the US stopped harassing our MIT supporters http://bit.ly/dbv2NbAug 01 03:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] FBI stomps around UK raiding alleged whistleblower's mother http://bit.ly/9PcWL8 VOTE NO: http://bit.ly/cpxJWCAug 01 03:19
TechrightsBotTitle: FBI question WikiLeaks mother at Welsh home: Agent interrogate 'distressed' woman, then search her son's bedroom  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 67.84 KBAug 01 03:19
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tessier_schestowitz: pongAug 01 03:37
tessier_schestowitz: Get the upgrade figured out? I'm really not sure what is wrong with it. I am not a WP/PHP guy.Aug 01 03:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Military airstrike video leak suspect in solitary confinement http://bit.ly/9VGqSK VOTE NO: http://bradleymanning.orgAug 01 03:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Secrets of the UK Killing Squad (WL/Sunday Times) http://bit.ly/dt4SAWAug 01 04:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Detained WikiLeaks volunteer speaks on War Diaries http://bit.ly/bMmhvxAug 01 04:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Wikileaks: Q&A with Jacob Appelbaum on "The Afghan War Diaries"  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 106.71 KBAug 01 04:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks supporters turn down military bribes http://bit.ly/cHbDxRAug 01 04:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] ISI spy chief cancels UK trip after our disclosures http://bit.ly/bRExfJAug 01 04:26
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DaemonFCAppArmor is being mergedAug 01 04:41
DaemonFCin Linux 2.6.36Aug 01 04:41
DaemonFCApparently rather than just use the SELinux Targeted policy like Fedora, Ubuntu would rather maintain AppArmor themselvesAug 01 04:42
DaemonFCeven though Novell has more or less given up maintaining itAug 01 04:42
DaemonFChow did they pull off getting it merged?Aug 01 04:44
DaemonFCmore important, why did they want it?Aug 01 04:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] "You have to start with the truth. The truth is the only way that we can get anywhere. " http://bit.ly/aV1ZrYAug 01 04:57
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DaemonFCI just deleted over 200 Yahoo Messenger contactsAug 01 05:14
DaemonFChehAug 01 05:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Pakistan's UN Ambassador on Afghan leaks (video) http://bit.ly/d8IOBFAug 01 05:20
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks and the Media (video) http://bit.ly/aTTqcQAug 01 05:29
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] FBI informant in Manning case interviewed by BBC http://bit.ly/bOD0Y5Aug 01 05:34
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- How open should gov. be with information? (30July10) .::. Size~: 96.05 KBAug 01 05:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Assassinations: New US policy in Afghanistan. Euphemisms: Old policy in New York Times http://nyti.ms/cpBcx8Aug 01 05:59
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Diablo-D3I think Ive decided somethingAug 01 06:00
Diablo-D3SCP would TOTALLY make a fucking awesome seriesAug 01 06:01
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DaemonFCRapidshare is taking more stuff down latelyAug 01 06:03
schestowitztessier_: not yet, no reply in the forums either. What else do you suggest we do?Aug 01 06:07
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DaemonFCRapidshare throttles free users so much that I got three pieces of the file from Megaupload while I was waitingAug 01 06:22
DaemonFClolAug 01 06:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: What do you think of AppArmor being merged?Aug 01 06:25
DaemonFCHas Linus finally flipped?Aug 01 06:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Independent: Afghanistan is unsustainable http://bit.ly/9Hi6Q5Aug 01 06:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Afghanistan: An unwinable war http://bit.ly/bijKlk http://bit.ly/cpxJWCAug 01 06:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Leading article: An unwinnable war -Leading Articles, Opinion - The Independent .::. Size~: 132.07 KBAug 01 06:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Pakistan is the true enemy | Telegraph http://bit.ly/dvphcHAug 01 06:40
TechrightsBotTitle: Helmand despatch: 'Pakistan is the true enemy' - Telegraph .::. Size~: 69.3 KBAug 01 06:40
schestowitztessier_: if we consider reloading the DB from backup I can experiment by seeing if reducing its size helps make it workAug 01 06:43
tessier_We could try that. Up to you.Aug 01 06:45
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*DaemonFC dug out a bunch of Carlos Santana CDs and ripped them to VorbisAug 01 06:57
DaemonFC:PAug 01 06:57
DaemonFCtessier_: SoundKonvertor can be pointed to a specific executable to use as the encoderAug 01 06:59
DaemonFCso I compiled the latest AoTuv preview build against libogg 1.2Aug 01 06:59
DaemonFC:)Aug 01 06:59
DaemonFChttp://a.imageshack.us/img710/7669/snapshot10.pngAug 01 07:02
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DaemonFCheheAug 01 07:02
schestowitztessier_: OK, let me do a backup first....Aug 01 07:10
tessier_okAug 01 07:10
schestowitzI will compact the DBAug 01 07:12
schestowitzThen I'll see if it makes a differenceAug 01 07:12
schestowitz107441011 Jul 31 23:04 wordpressdatabase-31072010.dump.gz is the backup I madeAug 01 07:15
tessier_okAug 01 07:15
DaemonFC"Fedora has updated kvirc (F13, F12: remote command execution)" Aug 01 07:17
DaemonFCheheAug 01 07:17
DaemonFCwell, I don't see why that's a problemAug 01 07:17
DaemonFC:)Aug 01 07:18
DaemonFCMandriva finally updated Firefox and ThunderbirdAug 01 07:18
DaemonFC:PAug 01 07:18
DaemonFChehAug 01 07:20
DaemonFCThe main shortcoming of Linux is at the level of device support. The obstacle there isn't a lack of ability among Linux developers, but rather the use of devices whose specs are secret. Finishing the HURD would not advance us at all in supporting these devices. The work that is needed is at the driver and firmware level. That's why our high priority task list includes items relating to free drivers, but not the HURD." -RAug 01 07:20
DaemonFCMSAug 01 07:20
schestowitzOK, i've halved the database sizeAug 01 07:21
DaemonFCThe HURD has been unofficially abandoned for yearsAug 01 07:21
DaemonFCI went through their revision control system log once and noted that for that entire year,HURD got as many actual patches as Linux does in a few hoursAug 01 07:22
DaemonFCit's falling behind 10 times faster than it is advancingAug 01 07:22
schestowitzHmmm... upgrade of DB still fails :-( let's try something elseAug 01 07:23
schestowitztessier_: can you please restore the database which is in ~/to-restore.dump.gz (that's the database that needs to be put back for wordpress)?Aug 01 07:24
DaemonFChttp://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/rms-ama.htmlAug 01 07:25
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schestowitztessier_: to avoid losing data, we need file to-restore.dump.gz to be made the current DB, overriding the existing oneAug 01 07:29
schestowitztessier_: I got some responses: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/upgade-php-fatal-error-call-to-undefined-method-wpdbtables-in-upgradephp?replies=0#post-1623037Aug 01 07:31
TechrightsBotTitle: WordPress : Support » Upgade: PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method wpdb::tables() in upgrade.php .::. Size~: 11.64 KBAug 01 07:31
schestowitztessier_: but we need ~/to-restore.dump.gz restored fast (any new changed to the DB until then will be lost)Aug 01 07:32
schestowitz ~/to-restore.dump.gz  is the DB before compactingAug 01 07:32
oiaohmStill trying to upgrade schestowitz?Aug 01 07:32
tessier_schestowitz: So neither of those replies are helpful?Aug 01 07:32
schestowitzI haven't tried them yetAug 01 07:33
schestowitzI only just saw itAug 01 07:33
schestowitzA moment ago I tried to see if making the DB smaller would helpAug 01 07:33
tessier_You do have a db.php in wp-contentAug 01 07:33
schestowitzBut I got the same error. We need ~/to-restore.dump.gz to be put back as the WordPress DB now, asapAug 01 07:33
schestowitztessier_: yes, I have that fileAug 01 07:34
schestowitzI'm looking into it as the next thing to tryAug 01 07:34
tessier_okAug 01 07:34
oiaohmDaemonFC: Hurd is still developing as slow as when Linux started out.Aug 01 07:34
schestowitzwp-content]$ find | grep db.phpAug 01 07:36
schestowitz./db.phpAug 01 07:36
schestowitzTHis might be itAug 01 07:36
DaemonFCI've been playing around with TomoyoAug 01 07:37
DaemonFCI made a profile for Firefox and enforced itAug 01 07:37
DaemonFC:)Aug 01 07:37
schestowitzMaybe there's something overriding the usual classAug 01 07:37
oiaohmTomoyo is not a bad design.Aug 01 07:37
oiaohmStill not as feature rich as selinux but you cannot except too much for its age.Aug 01 07:37
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The database isses we had is now resolved, thanks to Peter Westwood http://ur1.ca/0yclr !techrightsAug 01 08:12
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DaemonFChttp://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/red-hat-16-canonical-1/Aug 01 08:23
TechrightsBotTitle: Red Hat, 16%.  Canonical, 1%. «  Greg DeKoenigsberg Speaks .::. Size~: 415.57 KBAug 01 08:23
schestowitzWhat about it? Old news.Aug 01 08:43
cubezzz3I surmise it's just another cranky dude :)Aug 01 08:49
schestowitzMessengerAug 01 08:56
schestowitzhe put it bluntlyAug 01 08:56
schestowitzHe could do betterAug 01 08:56
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Good morning dentiworld....Aug 01 09:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open to Everyone: How Open Source Communities Can Benefit from Diversity Without Disunity - http://bit.ly/b9wPvW compared with feminist mvt.Aug 01 10:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] ZeroPaid Interviews the Free Software Foundation - http://bit.ly/cmrlhP basic intro, useful for pointing people to #fsfAug 01 10:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Researcher detained at U.S. border, questioned about Wikileaks - http://bit.ly/bx4jtW just the startAug 01 10:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Politics and Law - The latest in technology policy - CNET News .::. Size~: 183.82 KBAug 01 10:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Integrating Lessons from Other Disciplines into Open Source Practice - http://bit.ly/bVCpVF learning from fashion, gaming etc.Aug 01 10:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] expert calls for open access to academic knowledge - http://bit.ly/bXFzfT "criminally irresponsible to hoard in the digital age". yup #oaAug 01 10:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Times Higher Education - Emerging-technology expert calls for open access to academic knowledge .::. Size~: 30.48 KBAug 01 10:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Open Access sceptics: parallels with climate change - http://bit.ly/a5Ke8V nicely provocative #openaccess #climatechangeAug 01 10:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Open Research Online  » Blog Archive   » Open Access sceptics: parallels with climate change .::. Size~: 13.86 KBAug 01 10:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] For the last time - open access is not like stealing bread - http://bit.ly/cGGPrk can't believe people making this argument for #openaccessAug 01 10:55
TechrightsBotTitle: The Ed Techie: For the last time - open access is not like stealing bread .::. Size~: 46.64 KBAug 01 10:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Free of cost SchoolOS DVD (only for schoolos distributors) - http://tinyurl.com/34zmj44 #schoolosAug 01 11:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Free of Cost* SchoolOS iso - Valid upto 10 Aug 2010 .::. Size~: 7.02 KBAug 01 11:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Why the world needs WikiLeaks! http://bit.ly/cdVcSHAug 01 12:19
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Julian Assange: Why the world needs WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 105.57 KBAug 01 12:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft sold on average 150 Kin phones per day. http://ur1.ca/0yle3 Google activates 160,000 #Linux phones per dayAug 01 12:23
TechrightsBotTitle: DailyTech - Microsoft Likely Lost Over $60,000 Per Kin Phone as Verizon Pulls the Plug .::. Size~: 194.55 KBAug 01 12:23
DaemonFChmmmAug 01 12:26
oiaohmAnd MS is trying to talk big over tabet based devices.Aug 01 12:28
oiaohmNot wanting to get they are stuffed yet.Aug 01 12:28
DaemonFChttp://a.imageshack.us/img135/6472/snapshot13a.pngAug 01 12:29
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DaemonFCWine Internet Explorer!Aug 01 12:29
schestowitzoiaohm: let them :-)Aug 01 12:32
schestowitzVista Phone 7 won't succeed, eitherAug 01 12:32
schestowitzThey try branding/marketingAug 01 12:32
schestowitzDaemonFC: ok, *why*?Aug 01 12:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: Ask themAug 01 12:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: your window decorations are finally betterAug 01 12:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: change fontsAug 01 12:33
schestowitzAnd also, in KDE4 tick the option for windows decorations with rounded tabs in blueAug 01 12:33
schestowitzIt looks far neaterAug 01 12:33
schestowitzIt's in settings specific to this theme in kcontol or whatever it's called notAug 01 12:34
DaemonFCwhy isn't ark opening a 7zip archive?Aug 01 12:34
schestowitz*nowAug 01 12:34
DaemonFCI have p7zipAug 01 12:34
oiaohmAt long last apparmor looks like it stands a chance of getting mainline.Aug 01 12:34
oiaohmFor 2.6.36Aug 01 12:35
schestowitzAnd add some nice widgetsAug 01 12:35
schestowitze.g. twitter one.... you microblog from your 'wallpaper' fastAug 01 12:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] US bribed "independent" Afghan media to covertly air Army content http://yhoo.it/dwOPQSAug 01 12:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Leaked files indicate U.S. pays Afghan media to run friendly stories - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 135.98 KBAug 01 12:35
schestowitzoiaohm: I saw thatAug 01 12:35
schestowitzI had it queued for postingAug 01 12:35
oiaohmNow that path and file attribute work.Aug 01 12:36
oiaohmWe now need a LSM that integrates both.Aug 01 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks US bribed "independent" Afghan media to covertly air Army content http://yhoo.it/dwOPQSAug 01 12:36
TechrightsBotTitle: Leaked files indicate U.S. pays Afghan media to run friendly stories - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 135.96 KBAug 01 12:36
DaemonFCwhat else opens 7zip files?Aug 01 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some say that Android/Linux outsold Kin 1:16,000 http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/2010/07/07/report-pegs-microsoft-kin-sales-at-10-per-day/Aug 01 12:41
TechrightsBotTitle: Report Pegs Microsoft Kin Sales At 10 Per Day «  Velocity - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 34.67 KBAug 01 12:41
Diablo-D3ermAug 01 12:42
Diablo-D3thats backwardsAug 01 12:42
Diablo-D3you mean 16,000 to 1Aug 01 12:42
schestowitzYeah, well...Aug 01 12:47
oiaohmDiablo-D3: its legal valid english the other way.Aug 01 12:47
oiaohmBecause the direction was pre stated.Aug 01 12:47
oiaohmBut its still a nasty way of writing it.  schestowitzAug 01 12:48
schestowitzIt said [y] utsold [x]Aug 01 12:48
schestowitzBut Diablo-D3 is rightAug 01 12:48
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Diablo-D3x outsold y x:yAug 01 12:48
oiaohmNote I said legal english.Aug 01 12:48
Diablo-D3not y was outsold by x y:xAug 01 12:48
oiaohmCourt of law.Aug 01 12:48
oiaohm1 as the lead for a ratio is permited.Aug 01 12:50
oiaohmIe 1:16000 was a ratio state and classed as indepentent to the lead up text.Aug 01 12:50
oiaohmYes evil as hell.Aug 01 12:50
Diablo-D3its also wrongAug 01 12:50
oiaohmIts allowed.Aug 01 12:50
Diablo-D3not while I'm around it isnt.Aug 01 12:51
oiaohmrules of english allow it.Aug 01 12:51
oiaohmBut it does make reading harder.Aug 01 12:51
schestowitzhttp://consumerist.com/2010/07/microsoft-falsely-accuses-me-of-modding-broken-xbox-wants-100-to-fix-it.htmlAug 01 12:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Falsely Accuses Me Of Modding Broken Xbox, Wants $100 To Fix It - The Consumerist .::. Size~: 54.92 KBAug 01 12:52
oiaohmGets even worse when legal writer puts in unrequered words.   ie.  Android out sold kin by a ratio of one to sixteen thousand.Aug 01 12:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm: the "rules of english" have nothing to do with using english on a day to day basisAug 01 12:54
Diablo-D3you ALWAYS write things as least ambiguous as possibleAug 01 12:54
oiaohmUnless you are trying to hide something in a court case.Aug 01 12:55
Diablo-D3then you're a liar and don't deserve to use englishAug 01 12:55
oiaohmOr working with quotes around the wrong way for the way you have to present the case.Aug 01 12:56
oiaohmYes legal docments end up nightmares at times.Aug 01 12:56
oiaohmFor ratios being stated around the other way.Aug 01 12:57
schestowitzTHey need to use mathsAug 01 13:02
schestowitzTo remove ambiguityAug 01 13:02
schestowitzassign parameters for each company or productAug 01 13:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Iranians report that Iran has blocked WikiLeaks submissions again. This discredits Iran.Aug 01 13:19
schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/t/windows/do-the-math-175-million-copies-windows-7-isnt-impressive-707Aug 01 13:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Do the math: 175 million copies of Windows 7 isn't that impressive | Windows - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 89.38 KBAug 01 13:22
schestowitz"By simply counting the number of new PCs sold, it's obvious that businesses aren't flocking to Windows 7 in droves"Aug 01 13:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] The relationship between Whistleblowing and censorship | Guardian http://bit.ly/c8JdHvAug 01 13:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Windows circles are realising that #GNU #Linux is not so hard http://ur1.ca/0ynr6Aug 01 13:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Yuhnke commentary: Can a free alternative really replace Microsoft Windows on your mobile computer .::. Size~: 51.1 KBAug 01 13:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/44364584#notice-44679088 "@schestowitz The new Joliecloud (1.0) he refers to really is getting more restricted. I guess it's to appeal to the Apple crowd."Aug 01 14:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.38 KBAug 01 14:09
schestowitzIt also uses some proprietary softwareAug 01 14:09
oiaohmAs any sales person will tell you the hardest bit is getting the foot in the door the first time schestowitzAug 01 14:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Is it just me or does Michael Gove feel like Mr Bean? #uk #politicsAug 01 14:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft uses 'half naked' people to sell products http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102496-Asian-Models-Demonstrate-Kinect-BadlyAug 01 14:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ZeroPaid Interviews the Free Software Foundation http://www.zeropaid.com/news/90117/zeropaid-interviews-the-free-software-foundation/Aug 01 14:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Mozilla Centra http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/112722e92de2/widget/src for QT, GTK, cocoa & other things #mozillaAug 01 14:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 200 Script output follows .::. Size~: 0 KBAug 01 14:27
schestowitzDiablo-D3: how do I tell identica to stop showing I'm in Manchester in each dent I make?Aug 01 14:28
schestowitzOh, never mind, Diablo-D3Aug 01 14:29
schestowitzI found itAug 01 14:29
schestowitz"Share my current location when posting notices"Aug 01 14:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The weather in Manchester sucks recently. I don't think that a single day in July was less than "mostly cloudy".Aug 01 14:31
ThistleWebrofl, you should set up a fake location.....RedmondAug 01 14:32
schestowitzThistleWeb: I thought about iAug 01 14:36
schestowitz*itAug 01 14:36
schestowitzAnyway, that just added clutterAug 01 14:36
schestowitzLocation was longer than some dentsAug 01 14:37
ThistleWebyeah, I thought that about some group namesAug 01 14:37
schestowitz"about 11 minutes ago from web at Manchester, England, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland "Aug 01 14:37
ThistleWeblolAug 01 14:38
schestowitzAppended to each individual item by default thereAug 01 14:38
schestowitzhttp://mustard.macno.org/Aug 01 14:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Home | mustard .::. Size~: 8.74 KBAug 01 14:38
schestowitzmustard?Aug 01 14:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/44681079Aug 01 14:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Sunday, 01-Aug-10 13:12:18 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.8 KBAug 01 14:38
ThistleWebmustad is on androidAug 01 14:39
ThistleWebmustard*Aug 01 14:39
ThistleWebfoss identica clientAug 01 14:39
ThistleWebapparently a very good one too.....I'm still new to android and looking around for the right apps to useAug 01 14:40
ThistleWebit works pretty nice, no idea how it compares with others thoughAug 01 14:40
schestowitzI see...Aug 01 14:44
schestowitzI just never heard of mustard that's not foodAug 01 14:44
schestowitzhttp://mustard.macno.org/node/14Aug 01 14:45
TechrightsBotTitle: 5000!!! | mustard .::. Size~: 8.5 KBAug 01 14:45
ThistleWebyeah it's an odd nameAug 01 14:45
schestowitzSeems like it's also free software, which is rare on these devicesAug 01 14:45
schestowitzThis is the developer: http://identi.ca/macnoAug 01 14:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Michele (macno)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 58.5 KBAug 01 14:45
schestowitz"ago  from  mustard  at Proiettore, Regione Autonoma della Sardegna, Italian Republic"Aug 01 14:45
ThistleWebI did pick up app names that a lot of foss / linux peeps use on android for various things, and mustard seems to be the identica client of choice on androidAug 01 14:45
schestowitzOMG he uses mustardAug 01 14:45
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/08/android_grabs_13_per_cent_smartphone_market_share/Aug 01 14:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Android slurps market share from Apple, RIM, Microsoft • The Register .::. Size~: 27.62 KBAug 01 14:47
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apple-duct-tapes-over-consumer-reports-review/Aug 01 14:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Apple Duct-Tapes Over Consumer Reports Review  | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 120.62 KBAug 01 14:49
ThistleWebthat's the first I've checked the mustard site, the UI is a bit different now, each dent is bordered now so it's spaced much nicerAug 01 14:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "DNA wasn't invented then." http://is.gd/dWzk9Aug 01 15:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard "DNA wasn't invented then." http://is.gd/dWzk9Aug 01 15:16
TechrightsBotTitle: Australians are learning what it means to have creationists in the classroom : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 69.11 KBAug 01 15:16
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/should-nokia-drop-meego-and-put-google-android-on-their-hardware/4194Aug 01 15:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Should Nokia drop MeeGo and put Google Android on their hardware? | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 125.97 KBAug 01 15:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @rcweir here is what Punch seems to be about http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/26/google-punch/Aug 01 15:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] @schestowitz @fabsh HTH http://is.gd/dWEEC #swiftriver #ushahidiAug 01 15:56
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/44681483 "@schestowitz That's a promising article. But, it has a slant toward !Linux being for slower powered PC's. We all know that's not the case."Aug 01 16:01
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schestowitzGoogle is starting to make products like MicrosoftAug 01 16:04
schestowitzPicasa, Office...Aug 01 16:04
schestowitzNow Publisher...Aug 01 16:04
schestowitz"@schestowitz yuck; the last thing we need is a publisher clone. It's bad enough publisher exists in the first place." http://identi.ca/conversation/44373171#notice-44687899Aug 01 16:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer thanks, I'll get the final when it's out this month. I used to be on RSSOwl for years, but Ben neglected it a bitAug 01 16:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Spirit rover may never awaken from Martian winter, http://ur1.ca/0yqm0 Longest 90 days everAug 01 16:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] If RIM make a keyring based device would they call it a DANGLEBERRY?Aug 01 16:26
schestowitzhttp://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/07/daring-fireball-microsoft-sold-503-kins/Aug 01 16:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Daring Fireball: Microsoft sold 503 KINs «  Boy Genius Report .::. Size~: 107.95 KBAug 01 16:28
Diablo-D3503?Aug 01 16:29
Diablo-D3_thats it_?Aug 01 16:29
Diablo-D3holy motherfuck on a stickAug 01 16:29
Diablo-D3you know you've fucked up when there are higher HTTP response codes.Aug 01 16:30
ThistleWeblolAug 01 16:30
ThistleWebthey'll use the unsold surplus as a "gift" to some third world countries political leaders as a thank you for signing a huge windows deal no doubtAug 01 16:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ex-Microsoftie: Microsoft No Longer A Growth Company, It Should Slash R&D (MSFT) http://ur1.ca/0yqpfAug 01 16:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Ex-Microsoftie: Microsoft No Longer A Growth Company, It Should Slash R&D (MSFT) .::. Size~: 116.56 KBAug 01 16:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "IBM accused Microsoft of orchestrating a campaign against it." http://ur1.ca/0yqqk @fosspatents knows the feelingAug 01 16:38
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wikileaks volunteer detained http://ur1.ca/0yqqp Obama, stop with the Bushisms alreadyAug 01 16:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Just wrote the best existing English language bio of Quebecois conspiracy nutter Serge Monast. Thanks, fr:wp! http://is.gd/dWI55Aug 01 16:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @telecomix: Wikileaks is The Pirate Bay of Political Intelligence: http://mashable.com/2010/07/27/wikileaks-the-pirate-bay/Aug 01 16:44
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: Obama? He's just a spokesmanAug 01 16:47
schestowitzTeleprompter dude :-)Aug 01 16:48
Diablo-D3hes the president of the united statesAug 01 16:48
Diablo-D3quit undermining the constitution you jackassAug 01 16:48
schestowitzHe does his jobAug 01 16:49
schestowitzUSSA :-)Aug 01 16:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Journalism is already dead. How the Times framed WikiLeaks (discussion) http://bit.ly/dvm8YsAug 01 16:49
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schestowitzAt least wikileak dudes don't have goulags yetAug 01 16:49
schestowitz*leaksAug 01 16:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Journalism is already dead. How the Times framed WikiLeaks (discussion) http://bit.ly/dvm8YsAug 01 16:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Hilarious WikiLeaks rap gets it right. Is comedy the only honest commentary? http://bit.ly/9d60V3Aug 01 17:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks is still trend#1 on Google. The world has spoken. Afghanistan is important. http://bit.ly/91JTqSAug 01 17:23
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schestowitzhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/213726.asp "So does that mean they're not employing H1-B visa holders?"Aug 01 17:25
TechrightsBotTitle: Rumors abound of upcoming Microsoft layoffs .::. Size~: 80.88 KBAug 01 17:25
sebsebseb Aug 01 17:29
sebsebseb Aug 01 17:29
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/mark-shuttleworth-apologises-for.htmlAug 01 17:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Mark Shuttleworth apologises for alleged sexist comment | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 68.93 KBAug 01 17:29
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/mark-shuttleworth-apologises-for.htmlAug 01 17:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Mark Shuttleworth apologises for alleged sexist comment | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 68.93 KBAug 01 17:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] At long last, you can Flattr Wikileaks! http://bit.ly/aLZ2LOAug 01 17:31
schestowitzhttp://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/07/19/verizon_returns_all_unsold_kins_to_microsoftAug 01 17:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Afghanistan War Diary 2004-2009 - by WikiLeaks - flattr.com .::. Size~: 10.6 KBAug 01 17:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Verizon returns all unsold Kins to Microsoft - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 54.19 KBAug 01 17:31
schestowitzWhat will Microsoft do w/ them?Aug 01 17:31
schestowitzsebsebseb: he still seems like a womaniserAug 01 17:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/Aug 01 17:33
TechrightsBotTitle: A Sexy Dawn of Ubuntu Branding | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.01 KBAug 01 17:33
schestowitzHe's basically like Diablo-D3 but pretends to be a gentleman :-)Aug 01 17:33
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sebsebsebschestowitz: well  since who he is, it isn't a good thing when he offends a group of peopleAug 01 17:38
schestowitzI knowAug 01 17:40
schestowitzHe also used improper analogies beforeAug 01 17:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: Plus Ubuntu has its Ubuntu Women ProjectAug 01 17:40
schestowitzLike comparing Microsoft disdain to racismAug 01 17:40
schestowitzAs if Microsoft is a raceAug 01 17:40
schestowitzPeople choose where they workAug 01 17:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: well Shuttleworth hypeAug 01 17:40
schestowitzBut he's a scapegoat sometimesAug 01 17:40
schestowitzhe's successful at LinuxAug 01 17:40
sebsebsebpeople think hes a sort of God, which is basicaly what you said to me beforeAug 01 17:40
schestowitzSo people poke fun at him and mine his wordsAug 01 17:41
schestowitzsebsebseb: he's smarter than most peopleAug 01 17:41
schestowitzAsay is also very cleverAug 01 17:41
schestowitzSilber, the CEO, did not impress me in her interviewsAug 01 17:41
sebsebsebwell they are a for profit companyAug 01 17:41
schestowitzShe's an old friend of MarkAug 01 17:41
sebsebsebthey are making opensource/freesoftware commercialAug 01 17:42
sebsebsebso like propritary software in a way reallyAug 01 17:42
sebsebsebits just instead of selling itAug 01 17:42
sebsebsebthey will sell servicesAug 01 17:42
sebsebsebUbuntu One, Ubuntu One Music store,  and some commercial apps from the software centre, for exampleAug 01 17:42
schestowitzI know, it's not great, but it's fairAug 01 17:42
schestowitzUbuntu is not our problem, Apple, Blackboard Microsoft etc. areAug 01 17:43
sebsebseboh you mention BlackboardAug 01 17:43
sebsebsebwhatAug 01 17:43
sebsebsebEducational Establishments useAug 01 17:43
sebsebsebI assume you meant thatAug 01 17:43
sebsebsebto some extent Ubuntu is our problem as well though, since the distro has pretty bad hardware support, compared to say PC Linux OSAug 01 17:44
sebsebseband it has the users that want it all to just work, and that really is not so, for Ubuntu, a lot of the timeAug 01 17:44
sebsebsebso for people who care about Desktop Linux gaining a more proper market share, well yes thats a problemAug 01 17:44
sebsebsebsince probably more users who try Ubuntu,  go back to Windows or Mac OS X,  than  that stay as Ubuntu users, or end up using some other distro insteadAug 01 17:45
schestowitzExactlyAug 01 17:46
schestowitzThat's what I always sayAug 01 17:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: which bit?Aug 01 17:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: The Campaign for Real Rock. http://rocknerd.co.uk/?p=1006Aug 01 17:49
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schestowitzEven Microsoft's fangal bought an hypePad. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/i-confess-i-bought-an-ipad-and-so-far-i-love-it/6912Aug 01 17:54
TechrightsBotTitle: I confess: I bought an iPad (and so far I love it) | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 137.05 KBAug 01 17:54
schestowitzNot good sign for the VoleAug 01 17:54
schestowitzsebsebseb: the lastAug 01 17:54
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100704-704440.htmlAug 01 17:55
TechrightsBotTitle: LG Electronics: To Launch Android-Powered Tablet PC In 4Q - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 97.65 KBAug 01 17:55
schestowitzWith Microsoft taxAug 01 17:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: the market share comment then?Aug 01 17:56
schestowitz[17:45] <sebsebseb> since probably more users who try Ubuntu,  go back to Windows or Mac OS X,  than  that stay as Ubuntu users, or end up using some other distro insteadAug 01 17:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: exactlyAug 01 17:56
sebsebsebpeople don't know how sucky that distro really is when it comes to hardawre supportAug 01 17:56
sebsebseband  it still gets hyped up the mostAug 01 17:56
schestowitzThis goes a long way backAug 01 17:56
schestowitzDigg.comAug 01 17:56
schestowitz2006-7Aug 01 17:56
schestowitzI said this a lotAug 01 17:56
schestowitzWhen people attacked UbuntuAug 01 17:56
sebsebseboh got links?Aug 01 17:57
schestowitzAnd they called me a Ubuntu shill *LOL*Aug 01 17:57
sebsebsebso you used to attack Ubuntu a bit?Aug 01 17:57
schestowitzsebsebseb: you can search around it on the WebAug 01 17:57
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=schestowitz+ubuntu&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Aug 01 17:57
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schestowitz*LOL* "About 311,000 results"Aug 01 17:57
schestowitzNot bad...Aug 01 17:57
schestowitznarrow down to statementAug 01 17:58
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=schestowitz+ubuntu+%22good+for+all+of+linux%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Aug 01 17:58
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schestowitzHmmm.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=schestowitz+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Aug 01 17:59
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schestowitz"About 803,000 results"Aug 01 17:59
schestowitzI never tried these queriesAug 01 17:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Lessons the Free Softwarw movement can learn from the feminist movement re how to succeed http://bit.ly/b9wPvWAug 01 18:00
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schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66S2G620100729Aug 01 18:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] RT @glynmoody: Open to Everyone: How Open Source Communities Can Benefit from Diversity Without Disunity - http://bit.ly/b9wPvWAug 01 18:02
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sebsebsebSo Miss schestowitz whats this about? http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t481190-my-new-life-as-a-female-by-roy-schestowitz-my-felching-party.htmlAug 01 18:05
sebsebsebhttp://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t481190-my-new-life-as-a-female-by-roy-schestowitz-my-felching-party.htmlAug 01 18:05
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schestowitzhttp://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012275257_btgrove05.htmlAug 01 18:08
TechrightsBotTitle: Business & Technology | We must rebuild structure to create U.S. jobs | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 73.59 KBAug 01 18:08
schestowitz"Until a recent spate of suicides at Foxconn's giant factory complex in Shenzhen, China, few Americans had heard of the company. But most know the products it makes: computers for Dell and Hewlett-Packard, Nokia, cellphones, Microsoft Xbox 360 consoles, Intel motherboards and countless other familiar gadgets."Aug 01 18:08
schestowitzsebsebseb: it's forged, fakeAug 01 18:09
schestowitzBy pasting those fakes here you feed the forger, don't do that plsAug 01 18:09
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schestowitzThistleDroid: you got mustard ALL OVER your phoneAug 01 18:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: well from a bit of a read of it, it seemed like a load of rubbish to meAug 01 18:12
ThistleDroidyeah, lol just trying to configure this clentAug 01 18:12
schestowitzOK, goodAug 01 18:12
schestowitzsebsebseb: some of the forgeries are less obvious for an outsider to realise they are libel and fakeAug 01 18:12
schestowitzThistleDroid: identica keeps getting more popular, maybe one day to be #2 after twitterAug 01 18:13
ThistleWebI gotta say I doubt I'll be irc'ing from the phone, the screen is kinda small, and the text input aitn that fastAug 01 18:13
sebsebseban outsider? someone who doesn't reallly know you that well you mean?  libel??  I suck at words sometimes,  what does that mean?Aug 01 18:13
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, someone who doesn't know meAug 01 18:13
schestowitzsebsebseb: like slander, lies about an entity (person/company)Aug 01 18:14
schestowitzDeliberate too, that has to be part of it, which it isAug 01 18:14
schestowitzPeople make innocent mistakes, but wilful dissemination of lies is another matterAug 01 18:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz I commented on that. http://bit.ly/9l8gjm So what do you propose: no rule of law for those who are Microsoft competitors?Aug 01 18:15
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sebsebsebschestowitz: well I haven't found whatever I tried to Google for,  just the link I gave,  and stuff like that, and some old junk thread on Ubuntu forums where your mentionedAug 01 18:16
schestowitzBy Linus*** people?Aug 01 18:20
schestowitzThey libel me too a lot, they have no accountabilityAug 01 18:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents no abuse of regulatory bodies. Microsoft is doing it again in Japan (vs GOOG)Aug 01 18:20
schestowitzThat's the nature of the Web anyway; can't filter out liesAug 01 18:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz What theory (let alone evidence) for abuse of regulatory process do you have other than Microsoft being your #1 bogeyman?Aug 01 18:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz And concerning the European Commission, why do you think they would let themselves be abused particularly by Microsoft?Aug 01 18:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents yes, considering recent appointments...Aug 01 18:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents you call yourself "fosspatents" so you should know Microsoft is no 'bogeyman'Aug 01 18:28
schestowitzKubuntu gets Global Menu http://gadgetmix.com/netbook/kubuntu-global-menu/Aug 01 18:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz According to Wikipedia, the EC has a staff of more than 25,000. Any statistical indication of Microsoft influence?Aug 01 18:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents if you still believe Microsoft is just a 'bogeyman' to FOSS, then you have not been paying attention on your #Vista7 PC...Aug 01 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz Will do posting on Microsoft in connection with patents and FOSS this month. My blog mentioned Microsoft 30+ times before.Aug 01 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents the commissioners I meant. Ask Jan about it, he'll tell you...Aug 01 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[fosspatents] @schestowitz The commissioners pro Microsoft?! Neelie Kroes fought against Microsoft; Joaquín Almunia is from a very pro-FOSS party.Aug 01 18:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jwildeboer] RT @x1101 I just love that I can catch up on #identica while my lovely wife trys on clothes | ROTFLAug 01 18:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @fosspatents post on IV would be good tooAug 01 18:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[einfeldt] Thx to @glynmoody for posting this link re lessons the Free Software movement can learn from the feminist movement http://bit.ly/b9wPvWAug 01 18:45
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schestowitzRe: What does IV mean?Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> So I don't have to ask on Twitter: what do you mean by IV?Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz>  Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> And generally, I really think you should come to terms with the factAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> that very reasonable, unbiased people at the EC *and* the DoJ apparentlyAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> are *profoundly* concerned about IBM's conduct in the mainframe market.Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Both institutions can't be described as Microsoft friends. It doesn'tAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> help you and some others to believe that any rumor of a MicrosoftAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> interest in something (or even perhaps plausible reasons for assuming anAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> interest) makes bad conduct good.Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Now I figured what you meant by the abbreviation. I looked up your siteAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> to see on whom you commented recently. Saw the piece on IntellectualAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Ventures.Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz>  Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Any example of Intellectual Ventures patents being used against FOSS forAug 01 18:54
schestowitz> exclusionary purposes? That's the key thing for me to know.Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz>  Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> Aug 01 18:54
schestowitz> FlorianAug 01 18:54
schestowitzRe: IV = Intellectual Ventures, got itAug 01 18:54
schestowitzAny examples we know of?Aug 01 18:54
schestowitzzoobab?Aug 01 18:54
schestowitzIV versus FOSS?Aug 01 18:55
schestowitzGreat video: http://tinyogg.com/watch/9sWVh/Aug 01 19:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Demo: why Firefox with HTML5 can blow #AdobeTrash out of the water http://tinyogg.com/watch/243nf/Aug 01 19:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] @einfeldt glad it was of interestAug 01 19:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 1/8/2010: GNU/Linux Reviews and GhostBSD 1.5 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/0ys3j First #techrights post since the upgradeAug 01 19:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Opportunities In The Patent-Free Zone - http://tcrn.ch/a1au3J are much greater than outside it: patents are a *brake* on innovation #patentsAug 01 19:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Just spending some time working on a bunch of Severed Fifth updates. Stay tuned!Aug 01 19:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] Taking Back the DNS - http://bit.ly/amQFmX a world where "good guys do not automatically grant the use of their DNS resources to bad guys"Aug 01 19:40
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @jonobacon Why does Ubuntu One take 26 MB of RAM when you aren't using it? Emulating that New Crapware Smell from OEM Windows?Aug 01 19:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[glynmoody] RIAA ‘Protects’ Radiohead’s In Rainbows - http://bit.ly/ckuIJA it's hard to turn off the copyright machine #riaa #radiohead #copyrightAug 01 19:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Jim and Jono jamming over Skype, toasting the band - http://soc.li/S7PHYCI #severedfifthAug 01 19:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Chris Kontos (Attitude Adjustment, ex-Machine Head, Testament, Exodus) plays in Severed Fifth shirt - http://soc.li/aJiHQbi #severedfifthAug 01 19:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Severed Fifth interview on the libre.fm podcast - talking the music, free culture, band and fair pay - http://soc.li/GDE49Lk #severedfifthAug 01 19:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @RobKielty: @jonobacon Hope to release the Severed Fifth Android Fan App code on Monday. #sffaAug 01 20:03
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OK, here we resume http://ur1.ca/0ysby Steve Ballmer unrest and the Microsoft spy are just few among many items we'll cover this/next weekAug 01 20:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_Goblin you came about?Aug 01 20:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Severed Fifth written up in the Nor Cal Metal Report - http://soc.li/a3HdGid #severedfifthAug 01 20:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OK, here we resume http://ur1.ca/0ysby Steve Ballmer unrest and the Microsoft spy are just few among many items we'll cover this/next weekAug 01 20:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Executive Becomes Head of Channel 4 (UK) Online, #Silverlight Revisited http://ur1.ca/0yskfAug 01 20:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] A short video of Severed Fifth jamming to Drill Down at rehearsal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcJx-rsYgmg #severedfifthAug 01 20:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Infosys is an Extension of Microsoft India http://ur1.ca/0ysp6 Microsoft’s internal IT services are to be run by Infosys in IndiaAug 01 21:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Video snippet of Severed Fifth rehearsing Foretold Revelation - http://soc.li/OPaEvAO #severedfifthAug 01 21:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Giving GhostBSD 1.0 a run...... #linux #bsd #foss #gnuAug 01 21:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Also on the cards is Sabayon 5.3, a couple of features on Openbytes! www.openbytes.wordpress.comAug 01 21:27
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] US forces must remember than shooting the Taliban is shooting the Afghan people http://bit.ly/dtarfbAug 01 21:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Chinese Will “Get Sort of Addicted, and Then We’ll Somehow.. Collect Sometime in the Next Decade” --Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/0yt09Aug 01 21:48
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cubezzz3I'm thinking I should throttle ftpAug 01 21:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT @schestowitz The Chinese Will “Get Sort of Addicted, and Then We’ll Somehow.. Collect Sometime in the Next Decade” --Bill Gates http: ...Aug 01 21:58
cubezzz3don't the chinese use GNU+Linux?Aug 01 21:59
cubezzz3red flag or somethingAug 01 21:59
cubezzz3it's interesting though, with Asian countries with so many cultural differents, didn't seem to develop their own OSAug 01 22:01
cubezzz3correct me if I'm wrong Aug 01 22:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz it was one of the Rigs around my house.....client was set to bn, hadn't used it in a whileAug 01 22:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Watched them live a couple of months ago and they still kick ass! ♺ @reality: @midoubleko Sonic Youth! Woohoo!Aug 01 22:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @hook: Help #Gnash — the #GNU #Flash player is in dire need! http://ur1.ca/0ysvlAug 01 22:10
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cubezzz32 billion in counterfeit microsoft products...Aug 01 22:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[wikileaks] Dutch become 1st NATO member to quit Afghanistan http://bit.ly/aqB5k1 http://bit.ly/cpxJWCAug 01 22:26
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Security Emergency at Microsoft, All #Windows Users Are Vulnerable for Now http://ur1.ca/0ytcd here we go againAug 01 22:40
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DaemonFCin the middle of making my own Ubuntu :PAug 01 22:57
DaemonFCfrom the minimal CD :)Aug 01 22:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Join OpenWebIndia - http://mail.openwebindia.org/mailman/listinfo/openwebindia_openwebindia.orgAug 01 23:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_Goblin the reason you left is no longer there ;-)Aug 01 23:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Really? May have to swing by if there is no association that can be drawn....great stuff! Thanks for letting me know.Aug 01 23:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Release of GCC 4.5.1 - http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.5/ #linuxAug 01 23:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz (by association drawn) I mean with that person, not the chatroom.Aug 01 23:16
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yuhonghttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1732526&cid=33074396Aug 01 23:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] REQUEST: Does anyone have a copy (no pun intended) of an ACS:LAW letter? I'm writing a feature, would like to see one. #tpb #piratepartyukAug 01 23:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[rcweir] @schestowitz Too much speculation chasing too few facts. I don't think we can tell much from an icon. It might not even be the final icon.Aug 01 23:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] British Government Chooses to Stay Clunky With Internet Explorer 6 http://ur1.ca/0ytn4 #ie6 #lockin #fogcomputing #nhsAug 01 23:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Roy, are you no longer posting to COLA?Aug 01 23:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Does the British government suggestion box website deploy Microsoft Active Brick Wall technology? B-)Aug 01 23:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] I liked http://www.rhydolabz.com very much. Purchase lots of Cook Embedded Hardware and accessoriesAug 01 23:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The first Citizendium fork (Meg Ireland), coming soon: http://www.argopaedia.org/ http://www.argopaedia.org/wiki/Main_Page #wikipediaAug 01 23:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin as I said before, if I get involved, I get attacked, so I did :-)Aug 01 23:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin last one a reference to IRC, not COLAAug 01 23:53

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