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schestowitzToday Red Hat makes an announcementAug 25 07:43
schestowitzHopefully no takeoverAug 25 07:43
schestowitzNovell has an announcement tomorrowAug 25 07:43
schestowitzMaybe takeover to ensueAug 25 07:43
oiaohmWhat would be funny if it Redhat buying out SAPAug 25 07:45
oiaohmNot SAP buying out RedhatAug 25 07:45
MinceRwhere would RH get the money for that?Aug 25 07:47
oiaohmPossible IBM and HP and other Linuxfoundation memembers.Aug 25 07:49
oiaohmRedhat has been used before to aquire something that would otherwise be  too hot to handle.Aug 25 07:49
MinceRicAug 25 07:49
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schestowitzWon't happenAug 25 08:27
schestowitzSAP is uselessAug 25 08:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/46946474#notice-47369508 "@fontana that it's not a license is just one of the problems. the other is that it can be abused with licensing tricks"Aug 25 09:26
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schestowitzWe're working to diffuse Red Hat patents..Aug 25 09:26
schestowitzRed Hat responds: "@schestowitz IANAL, but @fontana already stepped in. I am on your side here. /me == No Software Patents, always been."Aug 25 09:26
schestowitzIf you see the RHT announcement, hollerAug 25 10:47
schestowitzhttp://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/blogpost/8180415/Aug 25 10:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Red Hat takeover talk heats up ahead of press conference :: The Skinny  at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 20.29 KBAug 25 10:49
schestowitzhttp://www.thevarguy.com/2010/08/24/red-hat-will-sap-acquire-linux-leader/Aug 25 10:49
TechrightsBotTitle: Red Hat: Will SAP Acquire Linux Leader? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 59.99 KBAug 25 10:49
schestowitzZDNet us written by children. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/cheating-on-ubuntu-with-a-mac/38282Aug 25 11:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Cheating on Ubuntu with a Mac | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 124.52 KBAug 25 11:05
oiaohm5 years ago you would have had press laughing at a OS X  vs a Linux compare.Aug 25 11:56
oiaohmSo yes its still a postive change.  schestowitzAug 25 11:56
schestowitzI know...Aug 25 12:23
schestowitzApple has reasons to be worriedAug 25 12:23
schestowitzBTW someone ran a survey and showed Apple is more disliked than MicrosoftAug 25 12:23
schestowitzBut push polling is possibleAug 25 12:23
schestowitzI'll make some more posts laterAug 25 12:23
schestowitzhttp://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1518935,00.htmlAug 25 12:36
schestowitz???Aug 25 12:36
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schestowitzRed Hat OR RHEL/Aug 25 12:37
schestowitz?Aug 25 12:37
schestowitzRHEL has lots of thingsAug 25 12:37
schestowitzhttp://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/21/nokia-buys-motally-analytics-company-nokia-announces-purchase-of-u-s-based-analytics-company-motally/Aug 25 12:41
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47035986#notice-47409008 "What would SAP want with RH ? Their software is hostile towards Linux. WTF?!?!"Aug 25 16:46
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schestowitzhttp://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/blogpost/8186387/Aug 25 16:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Does a Red Hat buyout make sense?  :: The Skinny  at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 19.97 KBAug 25 16:46
schestowitzThey are not being boughtAug 25 16:46
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47041149#notice-47413147 "@schestowitz Good, this rumour seems FUD to destabilize RH."Aug 25 17:09
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WireWulfyawnAug 25 17:13
WireWulfmorn/noon/afternoon schestowitz Aug 25 17:13
schestowitzWireWulf: you should #techrights . we've moved to #techrightsAug 25 17:17
schestowitzExcept for Novell issues, maybe some Red Hat, its rivaklAug 25 17:17
schestowitz*rivalAug 25 17:17
WireWulffigures you would move and i wouldnt know Aug 25 17:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.thestarpress.com/article/20100825/NEWS01/8250334 "@schestowitz Indeed, it seems like he's interested somehow on this RH rumour. Seems even advertising it."Aug 25 17:49
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schestowitzFlorian re RHTAug 25 17:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47042228#notice-47417615Aug 25 17:49
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yuhongschestowitz: On mainframes, you know the history of plug-compatible mainframes and IBM anti-trust, right?Aug 25 18:51
yuhongHopefully you do.Aug 25 18:51
yuhongDates long before MS.Aug 25 18:52
MinceRah, the ancient "equally evil" fallacyAug 25 18:52
yuhongIBM is not as evil now, yes.Aug 25 18:53
yuhongBut just because MS is now involved don't mean that it loses merit.Aug 25 18:53
MinceRgo find some new talking pointsAug 25 18:54
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cubevectorI don't find IBM that evilAug 25 18:59
cubevectorsome IBM PCs were built like tanksAug 25 19:00
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gnufreexschestowitz: where is Floyd dude advertising SAP RHT Rummor? I can't find anything on his blogAug 25 19:26
squarepegschestowitz: still kicking tail and taking names, I see...Aug 25 19:32
squarepegSome day this has got to pay off for you as a tech entrepreneur - or a tech news entrepreneurAug 25 19:33
schestowitz[18:52] <MinceR> ah, the ancient "equally evil" fallacyAug 25 19:34
schestowitzYeahAug 25 19:34
schestowitzSome days he uses AppleAug 25 19:34
schestowitz[19:26] <gnufreex> schestowitz: where is Floyd dude advertising SAP RHT Rummor? I can't find anything on his blogAug 25 19:34
schestowitzWhat you wanna do is look at account FOSSpatents in TwitterAug 25 19:34
schestowitzSee most recent activityAug 25 19:35
schestowitzI now call him fauxpatentsAug 25 19:35
schestowitzsquarepeg: not seen a pennyAug 25 19:35
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schestowitzhttp://webmink.com/2010/08/25/aggregator/Aug 25 20:18
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squarepegI can't wait to see the big legal trainwreck from software patentsAug 25 20:39
squarepegI'm hoping actually for a dismissal on the grounds that they don't make sense and they're unenforcableAug 25 20:39
squarepegOracle is stepping into a messAug 25 20:40
squarepegpatent law is important and there is plenty of legal precedent, as it is a very active area of law which facilitates business every dayAug 25 20:41
squarepegsoftware patents are just asinine and they gum up the works because they make no senseAug 25 20:41
squarepegJust what the patent office wants to see - lots of cases in which no clear judgement can be made, no body of precedents existingAug 25 20:42
squarepegit's a new frontier in abusing patent law and wasting everyone's timeAug 25 20:42
squarepegLet the lawyers make their claims, collect their fees - at the end of the day the lawyers are the only ones who're going to benefitAug 25 20:43
squarepegclaimants and defendants will suffer, as will the patent office and judges have their time wastedAug 25 20:44
squarepegultimately, software patents will be proven to be worthlessAug 25 20:44
squarepegcopyright law is the appropriate area of law for software Aug 25 20:44
squarepegImagine - Company A sues Company B because their software acheives the same functionality, yet with no copyright infringement accused...Aug 25 20:45
squarepegHey, you're infringing on my patented function which sorts an array! I patented sort() before you did. Aug 25 20:46
gnufreexsquarepeg: Are you DeamonFC?Aug 25 20:47
squarepegbalzacAug 25 20:47
squarepegsoftware patents are the most un-American, anti-competition, asinine ideaAug 25 20:49
squarepegJust like the SCO case against IBM, it's going to take a while for common sense to be vindicatedAug 25 20:49
MinceRif it ever will beAug 25 20:49
squarepegThere should be frivolous lawsuit fines and counter-suits filed against any claimants to file a case based on a software patent claimAug 25 20:50
squarepegsoftware patents are like the Dutch tulip speculation bubbleAug 25 20:50
MinceRthe jurists and the patent trolls win, everyone else losesAug 25 20:50
squarepegsoftware patent trolls are like tulip speculatorsAug 25 20:51
squarepegtheir patent portfolios are trashAug 25 20:51
squarepegtulips have more valueAug 25 20:51
squarepegat least you have compost at the end of the dayAug 25 20:51
squarepegI guess they'll end up with reams of paper they can recycleAug 25 20:52
schestowitzUSPTO is run by wannabe juristsAug 25 21:06
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