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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45506011#notice-45860004 "I'm reminded of that scene in `When Harry Met Sally': "But you said she has a good personality!"...." | Aug 12 06:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.53 KB | Aug 12 06:47 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/45884983 "<- why don't they just use pygowave.net?" | Aug 12 08:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: NumberedHumanIndustries (nhi)'s status on Thursday, 12-Aug-10 06:55:42 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9 KB | Aug 12 08:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1727626/kde-desktop-integrates-webkit | Aug 12 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Kde desktop integrates webkit - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 59.31 KB | Aug 12 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Defeatist: http://mmcgrath.livejournal.com/35659.html | Aug 12 09:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: mmcgrath - Death of the year of the linux desktop .::. Size~: 87.2 KB | Aug 12 09:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.montanalinux.org/response-death-of-year-of-linux-desktop.html | Aug 12 09:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Death of the Desktop Take II | MontanaLinux.org .::. Size~: 20 KB | Aug 12 09:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrX__ILDd3w&feature=digest | Aug 12 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube- Yahweh's Amazing Miracle .::. Size~: 115.53 KB | Aug 12 09:27 |
| schestowitz | This guy is funny yoo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z63U_eqii-o&feature=digest | Aug 12 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube- God has a chat with Pat Condell .::. Size~: 100.09 KB | Aug 12 09:33 |
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| schestowitz | This one says Wikipedia is doing badly: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/09/take-this-blog-and-shove-it.html | Aug 12 11:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Crowd Sourcing Loses Steam - Newsweek .::. Size~: 43.25 KB | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | From NewsWeek | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Big Media hates Wikipedia | Aug 12 11:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.teletruth.org//History/history.html | Aug 12 11:35 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/vD3UV/ | Aug 12 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Lady Gaga's Poker Face read by Christopher Walken - Friday Night with Jonathan Ross - BBC One .::. Size~: 5.36 KB | Aug 12 11:44 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* quacks... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCLAA3JV66g&feature=digest | Aug 12 11:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube- Facebook Faith Healers: Jobs in the New Economy .::. Size~: 119.22 KB | Aug 12 11:51 |
| tessier | Christopher Walken is hilarious | Aug 12 12:01 |
| tessier | Did you see Balls of Fury? | Aug 12 12:01 |
| schestowitz | I haven't, no... | Aug 12 12:03 |
| tessier | It was funny | Aug 12 12:05 |
| MinceR | well, not only the gnome do packages are broken in debian stable | Aug 12 12:19 |
| MinceR | tried to install java6 on vm, now it's broken | Aug 12 12:20 |
| schestowitz | "invest in Freedom" http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-SC-4-5-final-arrives-1053469.html | Aug 12 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE SC 4.5 final arrives - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.27 KB | Aug 12 12:21 |
| schestowitz | The new KDE motto? | Aug 12 12:21 |
| tessier | http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html | Aug 12 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What Happened to Yahoo .::. Size~: 18.35 KB | Aug 12 12:24 |
| tessier | Another excellent essay by Paul Graham. | Aug 12 12:24 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll install fedora on ext4 and cp -a it to a real fs | Aug 12 12:24 |
| MinceR | why can't anyone develop an OS that doesn't suck? | Aug 12 12:24 |
| schestowitz | For desktops? | Aug 12 12:26 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 12 12:26 |
| MinceR | or in general | Aug 12 12:26 |
| schestowitz | RTOS is easier | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Less LOCs | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | And less function | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Windows = GUI+basic useless apps | Aug 12 12:27 |
| schestowitz | GNU/Linux comes with far more lines of code, I reckon | Aug 12 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the RTOS schestowitz | Aug 12 12:27 |
| oiaohm | does it include a Linux application emulator or not. | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X is artwork with BSD stuff | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: those small embedded chips that run a washing machine | Aug 12 12:28 |
| MinceR | shitty "artwork" | Aug 12 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Ok freertos class | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/kde-45-released-1723-new-features-16022-bug-fixes/9276 | Aug 12 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE 4.5 released - 1,723 new features, 16,022 bug fixes | ZDNet .::. Size~: 127.83 KB | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Even a Microsoft booster covers it | Aug 12 12:28 |
| schestowitz | KDE is smart enough to make SC | Aug 12 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Notice the number of new features | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | And to target devices | Aug 12 12:29 |
| oiaohm | How many did MS add in Windows 7 | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Windows might be pushed aside to 'desktops' | Aug 12 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Which fewer people will use | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Many devices now run Android | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Android competes with KDE | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | I think 6 months KDE development added more than 7 did. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | But it's not appreciated | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Not by the press | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | It's too busy with "PC and Mac" | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Linux is trying to create the one ring of OS's. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Ie 1 OS to rule them all. | Aug 12 12:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/kde-45-released-1723-new-features-16022-bug-fixes/9276 | Aug 12 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: KDE 4.5 released - 1,723 new features, 16,022 bug fixes | ZDNet .::. Size~: 127.66 KB | Aug 12 12:31 |
| oiaohm | http://www.freertos.org/ << seen this before schestowitz | Aug 12 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: FreeRTOS-A Free RTOS for ARM7, ARM9, Cortex-M3, MSP430, MicroBlaze, AVR, x86, PIC32, PIC24, dsPIC, H8S, HCS12 and 8051 .::. Size~: 6.74 KB | Aug 12 12:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/AWN-Ekes-Out-a-Win-in-the-Battle-of-the-Dock-Apps-70591.html | Aug 12 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.92 KB | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | I no longer use stupid docks | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X wannabes | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | With their pink (purpose) wallpaper and purse at the bottom... | Aug 12 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Dockdockdockdockdockdock | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to waste screen space on a trash can | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | So I stopped using awn | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Kwin has better effects than OS X | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I saw some demos and pasted here yesterday | Aug 12 12:33 |
| oiaohm | I do like the look of KDE 4.5 tasked based desktop widget configs. | Aug 12 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS X and Vista{}* cannot catch up | Aug 12 12:33 |
| oiaohm | And are looking forward to trying it. | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what's that? | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I never got the hand oif activities | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I just use virtual desktops | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Activities intimidate me, seems complex and desktop zoom drives me nuts | Aug 12 12:34 |
| schestowitz | The new widget manager for plasma is really nice | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Activities have changed design completely 4.5 | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | desktop zoom bit is gone. | Aug 12 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Its now you group them into tasks and change between them depending on what you are doing. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Now what I want to check is if it turns the widgets off or just hides them. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully it turns them off when they are not displayed. | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm seeing new options now | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Didn't explore 4.4 much | Aug 12 12:36 |
| schestowitz | WIndows decors also got nicer | Aug 12 12:36 |
| oiaohm | There was not many new options in 4.4 | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | I still can't make a wallpaper stretch across screens | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | Each is treated like separate part of plasma session | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Yep that area is still buggy. | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Hopefully 4.6 has multi screen sorted out. | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Firefox took activities-like approach | Aug 12 12:37 |
| schestowitz | They call it Tab Candy IIRC | Aug 12 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Reverse | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | KDE had activities first | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | But 4.5 they saw tab candy and went hey that sane. | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1727465/adobe-mac-os-x-h264-gpu-decoding | Aug 12 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Adobe gives mac os x h.264 gpu decoding - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 67.17 KB | Aug 12 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Lets change. | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Adobe is screwing Linux, still | Aug 12 12:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no Vista 8 vapourware in over a month | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Weird | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | They have recesses between vapour-shows | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Maybe weeks before the next fake 'leak' | Aug 12 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft leaks=coredump | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/5604762-147/here_comes_nokias_n900__.csp | Aug 12 12:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Here comes Nokia's N900 .::. Size~: 62.91 KB | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Why does Nokia still promote Maemo | Aug 12 12:40 |
| oiaohm | MS is still having problems controlling the OEMs to get them off XP | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Businesses | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | They wipe Vista 7 off | Aug 12 12:40 |
| oiaohm | N900 can run Meego as well. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | And they prefer the OEMs to do it, i bet... | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | XP alive till 2014 now... | Aug 12 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Not 2007 | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is being pushed by the only cash cow that has the rest cling 0nto it | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Yep every time XP is dead it gets a extra life. | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: can it? | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | I thought Nokia said no ~2 months ago | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Except the hack | Aug 12 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Some unofficial port | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | there is unofficial | Aug 12 12:41 |
| oiaohm | N900 allows you to load anything infact. | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah, XP is like the Mickey Mouse copyright extension | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Always extending once the end if approached | Aug 12 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Some people insanely loaded almost a pure standard debian into a N900 | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Yeha | Aug 12 12:42 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 12 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Meego is not really fully production ready yet. | Aug 12 12:43 |
| oiaohm | I can understand Nokia holding back for now. | Aug 12 12:43 |
| schestowitz | 1.0 though | Aug 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | not beta | Aug 12 12:47 |
| oiaohm | I would still call it beta | Aug 12 12:47 |
| oiaohm | It don't have a stocked app store yet. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:47 |
| schestowitz | They need some basic apps | Aug 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.macnn.com/articles/10/08/10/html5.seen.as.future.of.most.apps/ | Aug 12 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linux director blasts App Store model as "unsustainable" | MacNN .::. Size~: 124.27 KB | Aug 12 12:49 |
| schestowitz | 'Linux Foundation executive director Jim Zemlin has criticized Apple's business model for the App Store, which he views as unsustainable as the mobile industry continues to evolve. Despite Apple's dominance with over 200,000 titles, Zemlin suggests the "top ten pages are the only ones that matter," according to an interview with Wired.' | Aug 12 12:49 |
| oiaohm | The common warehouse already exists schestowitz | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | its called the opensuse build system. schestowitz | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Yes its the one thing that might save Novell | Aug 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | The author is thinking the Linux director is talking theory. He is not. | Aug 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz | OBS is not adopted by many | Aug 12 12:53 |
| schestowitz | And it's not for mobiles, AFAIK | Aug 12 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Look again. | Aug 12 12:54 |
| oiaohm | OBS is in meego by the way schestowitz | Aug 12 12:54 |
| oiaohm | And can spit out native android apps. | Aug 12 12:55 |
| oiaohm | The warehouse system already applies to meego and android. Only thing missing is the central billing and uploading. | Aug 12 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wikinews030/statuses/20966748320 "this. is. not. officially. verified. theres no conf of this. australia: dementi. germany: holidays. big ben land: unknown" | Aug 12 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / wikinews030: @schestowitz this. is. not ... .::. Size~: 11.82 KB | Aug 12 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Ryan is trolling | Aug 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm wasting time giving him openings to spout our lies | Aug 12 17:29 |
| schestowitz | *out | Aug 12 17:29 |
| MinceR | argh | Aug 12 18:13 |
| MinceR | fucking stupid synaptic didn't let debconf or something display a license agreement | Aug 12 18:13 |
| MinceR | that's why it broke | Aug 12 18:14 |
| MinceR | can someone come up with a "only use these frontends to not fuck up your apt/dpkg system" list? | Aug 12 18:14 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I never use synaptic | Aug 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz | In ubuntu 4.10 it was called something else | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I installed openssh with it | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | -servr | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | and it was quite primitive | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Just package names, no user-friendly names | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | But it works, then it shows you a terminal window Debian-style where it gets installed | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Those were the days... 2004 Ubuntu | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Now I get use -apt-get | Aug 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Althogh... | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Kubuntu's package manager is quite nice | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | So I use apt-get less over time | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | I found all sorts of ways of making Qt look wicked | Aug 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz | MotorMouthFC... | Aug 12 18:43 |
| MinceR | KPackageKit is retarded in its feature set | Aug 12 18:45 |
| MinceR | probably the entire PackageKit is | Aug 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Well, either way... compare that to Windows | Aug 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't need to waste time with firefox, browser, d/ling, installing, rebooting, etc | Aug 12 18:45 |
| MinceR | well yeah, but i'm way over the 'it only needs to be better than winblows | Aug 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | ' phase | Aug 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Apple? | Aug 12 18:46 |
| MinceR | that's the one thing that isn't | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | It keeps the doctor away but makes your pecker shrink or fall off | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | crApple is so limited it kind of makes the point of having a general purpose computer moot | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | plus their hw quality sucks too | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | It's the same | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Components | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | and you're pretty much locked into it | Aug 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Apple is a marketing house\ | Aug 12 18:47 |
| MinceR | no, it's about the same as dell | Aug 12 18:48 |
| MinceR | which is the bottom of the barrel | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Putting an arrogant face on Foxconn | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the bottom of the barrel is British Petroleum | Aug 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Even the barrel of the bottom :-) | Aug 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/20-useful-ubuntugnome-keyboard.html | Aug 12 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 20 Useful Ubuntu/Gnome Keyboard Shortcuts | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 37.98 KB | Aug 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <MinceR> the more realistic outcome is that we'll kill everything on earth before we can come up with something | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:16] <MinceR> because of people like you | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | True | Aug 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Biosynthesis a possibility | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Modifying DNA to survive other planet's conditions | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe even to elongate lifetime | Aug 12 18:56 |
| MinceR | i didn't mention that though :> | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | But making it replicable on other planets | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I'm still reading, let me see... | Aug 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | I run away from ryan's crapfl00ds | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:19] <MinceR> and that we' | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:19] <MinceR> and that we'll alter the DNA of organisms to make them different | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | We thought of the same solution | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | We need to study ryan's DNA | Aug 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Then, *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | *delete* that | Aug 12 18:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | something funny going on in Vista.......... | Aug 12 18:58 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 12 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Ryan made me feel all cozy | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | We should burn MOAR fuel | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | To prepare for the coming ice age | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | In fact, I'm going back to freon sprays | Aug 12 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Gerbil brain ryan | Aug 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz | He's provoking on purpose | Aug 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz | agentsmith: "Is it safe to return to TR chat ? I mean, that gentleman scared me away from there." | Aug 12 19:22 |
| MinceR | why not invite him here and to #techrights? | Aug 12 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | yeah...... | Aug 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | wb, scientes | Aug 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: #boycottnovell-social and http://TechRights.org | Aug 12 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/45606409#notice-45948715 "@schestowitz Nice, I was scared away from tr chat, You know. I'll be back shortly ;-)" | Aug 12 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | scared?!?! | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | By whom? | Aug 12 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Aug 12 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | :-( http://www.google.com/search?q=site:linsux.org+schestowitz&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Aug 12 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: site:linsux.org schestowitz - Google Search .::. Size~: 38.94 KB | Aug 12 23:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR_: | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <jweyrich> hey | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:49] <jweyrich> the guy talks more than everyone together. | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:50] <jweyrich> I regret I started that discussion LOL. | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | [23:50] <schestowitz> He's a cr3pfl00der | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Aug 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz | daemon | Aug 12 23:51 |
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