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schestowitzLobbyist Florian is at it again..Aug 13 06:58
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Aug 13 06:58
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schestowitz> Don't know if you have a LWN subscription, so I'm sending you my commentAug 13 06:58
schestowitz> there. It's behind a paywall but since I wrote it, I can authorize youAug 13 06:58
schestowitz> to quote. Again, no mass mailer in use ;-)Aug 13 06:58
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schestowitz> FlorianAug 13 06:59
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schestowitz>     http://lwn.net/Articles/399850/Aug 13 06:59
TechrightsBot-scTitle: So what do the proponents of Oracle's acquisition of Sun think now? [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.62 KBAug 13 06:59
schestowitz>Aug 13 06:59
schestowitz>Aug 13 06:59
schestowitz>     So what do the proponents of Oracle's acquisition of Sun think now?Aug 13 06:59
schestowitz>Aug 13 06:59
schestowitz> Posted Aug 13, 2010 5:00 UTC (Fri) by *FlorianMueller* (subscriber, #32048)Aug 13 06:59
schestowitz> Parent article: Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android (arsAug 13 06:59
schestowitz> technica) <http://lwn.net/Articles/399840/>Aug 13 06:59
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schestowitz[...]Aug 13 06:59
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schestowitz"In earnings news, MBIA surged 4.5% after it registered a 45% jump in earnings in the second quarter. Software manufacturer Novell plunged 3.2% after it cut its third- quarter revenue outlook. Best Buy, the electricals retailer, fell 2.8% after Goldman Sachs cut its rating from “buy” to “neutral”."Aug 13 07:49
schestowitzBTW,I quit fast cause I pasted too much (Firefox thing)Aug 13 07:49
schestowitzHm......Aug 13 07:52
schestowitzOd plasma bugAug 13 07:52
schestowitzNever happened beforeAug 13 07:52
schestowitzPlane on autohide would not come upAug 13 07:52
schestowitzRestarting plasma-desktop sorted it outAug 13 07:52
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/21041932374 "he still hasn't reported on it. What happened to 24/7 coverage? #BoycottBoy #idiots"Aug 13 09:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Jo Shields: @verofakto he still hasn't ... .::. Size~: 12.1 KBAug 13 09:54
schestowitz"Place your bets on how #BoycottBoy and posse are going to spin this one http://j.mp/9Lgvm7 "Use Java, Mono is teh poison!!""Aug 13 09:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Oracle sues Google over intellectual property - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 92.74 KBAug 13 09:54
MinceRnot sure why this needs to be spunAug 13 10:19
MinceRunless of course one lives in a m$ mindsetAug 13 10:19
MinceRwhere "A is evil" means "B is not evil" and vice versaAug 13 10:20
schestowitzYeahAug 13 10:20
schestowitzI'm doing a post ATMAug 13 10:20
schestowitz5 minsAug 13 10:20
schestowitz"@jdub lol, I'm sure that's what #boycottboy will be saying! ;-) "Aug 13 13:30
schestowitzNovewll employee says itAug 13 13:30
schestowitzTo the nutterAug 13 13:30
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jdub/status/21054352228 "@jstedfast Ha ha, some awesome RTs there... boycottoracle.com! You know Novell is behind all of this, right?"Aug 13 13:31
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Jeff Waugh: @jstedfast Ha ha, some awe ... .::. Size~: 11.83 KBAug 13 13:31
schestowitzMr T avatarAug 13 13:31
schestowitzIt figures.Aug 13 13:31
MinceRthere's nothing better to expect from a novell slaveAug 13 13:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/mosborne01/statuses/21051012991 "The #fsf always seems like an island of safety when shipwrecks like this occur. Thank you for being there. #Oracle #swpats #trolls"Aug 13 13:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Mark Osborne: The #fsf always seems like ... .::. Size~: 9.08 KBAug 13 13:35
schestowitzhttp://www.trabajadorespublicos.es/tecnologia/2904-microsoft-y-los-gobiernos-de-colombia-y-turquia.htmlAug 13 13:43
schestowitzNice. Our posts get passed to other languagesAug 13 13:43
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/21059378749 "The lulz have arrived, from #boycottboy: Oracle is in the right, and Mono is at risk from Oracle too, so use Java"Aug 13 14:14
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Jo Shields: The lulz have arrived, fro ... .::. Size~: 11.9 KBAug 13 14:14
schestowitzHere come the trolls. Watch their accounts, still obsessed with techrightsAug 13 14:14
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/directhexAug 13 14:15
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Jo Shields (directhex) on Twitter .::. Size~: 47.48 KBAug 13 14:15
schestowitz "@mgdm then 2 articles down: headline "Novell/Mono Could be Sued by Oracle" and summary "Next target for Oracle could be Novell""Aug 13 14:15
MinceRwhy bother? it's all offensive noiseAug 13 14:15
schestowitz"I am outraged that boycottoracle.com is already taken & non-Java. I propose a boycott. Who wants to start boycottboycottoracle.com with me?"Aug 13 14:15
MinceRlolAug 13 14:15
schestowitzTalking to Novell staff and stalkkkersAug 13 14:16
schestowitzIt figuresAug 13 14:16
schestowitzIt's like one happy familyAug 13 14:16
schestowitz".@mgdm what Glenn doesn't comprehend is that if Oracle can sue over Mono, the reverse is likely true - i.e. MS can sue Oracle over JavaAug 13 14:16
MinceRtime to start boycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycottboycott...boycott.com (as long as the domain name length limit allows)Aug 13 14:16
schestowitzCalls me gLenn BeckAug 13 14:16
schestowitz"@jeremie_laval I think he wanted to make it clear he posts about things other than Novell. Sometimes he posts cute puppy pics too!"Aug 13 14:17
*MinceR shrugsAug 13 14:17
MinceRlet them sue each otherAug 13 14:17
schestowitzInstead of writing about OracleAug 13 14:17
schestowitzThey talk about peopleAug 13 14:17
MinceRad hominem is easyAug 13 14:17
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/migueldeicazaAug 13 14:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Miguel de Icaza (migueldeicaza) on Twitter .::. Size~: 49.7 KBAug 13 14:18
schestowitz"@verofakto I am not giggling. That is how I breathe."Aug 13 14:18
schestowitzMiguel and his mateyAug 13 14:18
schestowitzThe stalkkerAug 13 14:18
MinceRstalKKKer?Aug 13 14:19
schestowitz> Can we have a private conversation not readable by the COLA trolls ?Aug 13 14:23
schestowitzThere is IRC. I'm quitting E-mail.Aug 13 14:23
schestowitzMinceR: yes, he follows me around (the Web)Aug 13 14:24
schestowitz vindicareg@gmail.comAug 13 14:24
schestowitzvindication?Aug 13 14:24
schestowitzCould even be related to Novell, who knows.... started by backing the ACCESS bullyAug 13 14:25
schestowitzCNET's goat: "An Oracle representative declined to comment beyond the complaint." http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20013546-265.htmlAug 13 14:32
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Oracle sues Google over Android and Java | Relevant Results - CNET News .::. Size~: 173.47 KBAug 13 14:32
schestowitzhttp://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2268113/oracle-sues-google-androidAug 13 14:33
schestowitz"@migueldeicaza you sure you want to associate yourself with those Web bullies you chat with?"Aug 13 14:47
schestowitzHe'll ignore...Aug 13 14:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/gnome-shell-is-evolving-quite.htmlAug 13 17:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle: GNOME Shell is Evolving Quite Beautifully | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 43.4 KBAug 13 17:12
schestowitzhttp://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/gnome-shell-is-evolving-quite.htmlAug 13 17:13
TechrightsBot-scTitle: GNOME Shell is Evolving Quite Beautifully | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 43.4 KBAug 13 17:13
schestowitzOops, sorry.Aug 13 17:13
schestowitz"I think the !fsf should start a "Fuck you Oracle" campaign." http://identi.ca/notice/46001749Aug 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Karl Kochs (caph)'s status on Friday, 13-Aug-10 07:22:25 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.13 KBAug 13 17:39
schestowitz"Shit, fucking Oracle, patent trolling. Time to fork OpenOffice and VBox? Thank God for the gpl, !gnu and the !fsf." http://identi.ca/notice/46001717Aug 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Karl Kochs (caph)'s status on Friday, 13-Aug-10 07:22:03 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.32 KBAug 13 17:39
schestowitz"Shit, fucking Oracle, patent trolling. Time to fork OpenOffice and VBox? Thank God for the gpl, !gnu and the !fsf." http://identi.ca/notice/45979231Aug 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Kevin Bush (qchapter)'s status on Friday, 13-Aug-10 01:58:14 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.38 KBAug 13 17:39
schestowitz"The !FSF doesn't need to do that... you can do it all by yourself #fuckyouoracle" http://identi.ca/notice/45975873Aug 13 17:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Ted Smith (teddks)'s status on Friday, 13-Aug-10 01:03:34 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.62 KBAug 13 17:39
schestowitz"Can someone explain to me what the !fsf has to do with ORCL suing the GOOG?" http://identi.ca/notice/46015220Aug 13 17:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Fabian Scherschel (fabsh)'s status on Friday, 13-Aug-10 09:43:52 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.7 KBAug 13 17:40
schestowitzTroll: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/open-source-is-filled-with-freeloaders/6926Aug 13 18:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Open source is filled with freeloaders | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 126.35 KBAug 13 18:35
schestowitzlanguage...Aug 13 18:35
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/analyst-open-source-officially-crosses-the-chasm-into-mainstream-adoption/7101Aug 13 18:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Analyst: open source officially crosses the chasm into mainstream adoption | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 123.9 KBAug 13 18:44
schestowitzHehe.Aug 13 19:24
schestowitzSome COLA dude:Aug 13 19:24
schestowitz> If you mean use a publically accessible IRC channel where your enemiesAug 13 19:24
schestowitz> can copy and post derogatory comments about you - then no thanks !Aug 13 19:24
schestowitz>Aug 13 19:24
schestowitz> Have you learned anything in your dealings with COLA, are you thatAug 13 19:24
schestowitz> fucking stupid ?????Aug 13 19:24
schestowitzNo, you can communicate publicly, responsibly and often anonymously.Aug 13 19:24
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schestowitzNice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMxpqYEjyo&feature=digestAug 13 20:17
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube- Who I am .::. Size~: 98.81 KBAug 13 20:17
schestowitzI like his channel... finally he reveals himselfAug 13 20:17
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schestowitz"Mono hacker. UTBM student. FOSS enthusiast." http://twitter.com/jeremie_lavalAug 13 20:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Jérémie Laval (jeremie_laval) on Twitter .::. Size~: 48.48 KBAug 13 20:27
schestowitz"@directhex geez, the boycott disease has spread, it's now called techrights"Aug 13 20:28
schestowitzClub Mono :-)Aug 13 20:28
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/joeshawAug 13 20:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Joe Shaw (joeshaw) on Twitter .::. Size~: 51.5 KBAug 13 20:30
schestowitzAnother former Novell staffAug 13 20:30
schestowitz"the real question is, what does boycott novell have to say about this? i can't wait to see how they tie it back to mono somehow."Aug 13 20:30
schestowitzObsess much?Aug 13 20:30
MinceRfinally we see the typical *bsd theme from the m$ mvpAug 13 22:14
MinceRthey of course never use *bsd, only proclaim it to be the second best thing after winblowsAug 13 22:15
schestowitzYes, I noticedAug 13 22:20
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/08/13/oracle-attacks-android-with-software-patents-on-java/ "racle is asking the court to ban Android, seize all devices, penalize Google etc. which would effectively kill Android. Presumably this means Google refused to pay licensing fees to Oracle over Java. We all thought Sun had opened Java. What did we miss? Did Oracle read the licence? Did Google use the non-FREE version?"Aug 13 22:32
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   Oracle Attacks Android With Software Patents on Java at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 30.34 KBAug 13 22:32
schestowitzThis baffles me tooAug 13 22:32
MinceRoracle bought sun, now oracle is killing sunAug 13 22:33
MinceRthey started killing SlowLarry's, and Java is nextAug 13 22:33
schestowitzI worry about OOo and mysqlAug 13 22:35
schestowitzBut what's Oracle's motive?Aug 13 22:35
schestowitzThat's what I don't getAug 13 22:35
schestowitzThey make themselves hated, maybe they plan to keep Solaris as a Linux/UNIX others can't haveAug 13 22:35
schestowitzMaybe monetised extortion from Java, mysql extortion...Aug 13 22:36
MinceRdunnoAug 13 22:36
MinceRmaybe larry does want money right nowAug 13 22:36
schestowitzWhat position should techrighrs take on Oracle?Aug 13 22:36
MinceRbuy sun, wring all the money from it ASAP, discard the dead huskAug 13 22:36
schestowitzI can't quite attack themAug 13 22:36
schestowitz'attack'Aug 13 22:36
MinceRwhatever you wantAug 13 22:36
schestowitzAs in tell them offAug 13 22:36
MinceRif you even have to take a positionAug 13 22:37
schestowitzCause they have FOSS projectsAug 13 22:37
schestowitzMore than other companies evenAug 13 22:37
schestowitzGoogle competes vs Oracle OOo (OOOO)Aug 13 22:37
schestowitzIt would be good if IBM bought SUNAug 13 22:37
MinceRcan IBM afford to buy oracle?Aug 13 22:38
schestowitzNopeAug 13 22:38
schestowitzOracle is almost the same market capAug 13 22:39
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/5BVD6/Aug 13 23:02
TechrightsBot-scTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: A muslim argues with Dawkins - funny .::. Size~: 5.26 KBAug 13 23:02
schestowitzI think it's a troll. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=site%3Atechrights.org+voltronw+mono&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Aug 13 23:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: site:techrights.org voltronw mono - Google Search .::. Size~: 37.13 KBAug 13 23:52
schestowitzCan't recall what he said exactlyAug 13 23:52
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