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schestowitzhttp://seanbonner.tumblr.com/post/930610676/yo-dawg-you-saw-this-comingAug 16 00:43
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schestowitzaround, i'm sure they're going tAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> Groklaw's claims that I wanted to use the EU process to change MySQL'sAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> license from GPL to ASL is just as wrong as the suggestion that I wantedAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> to sabotage the LiMux project.Aug 16 08:40
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schestowitz> In my blog posting of today I have explained in detail that I supportedAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> the GPL in that context. My posting provides links to and quotes fromAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> several documents related to the Oracle-Sun process, making it quick andAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> easy for everyone with an interest in this matter to verify that IAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> consistently argued against -- not for -- a license change.Aug 16 08:40
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schestowitz> I ask you to take note of this because no matter how much you choose toAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> distrust me on other issues, this is a case of everyone being entitledAug 16 08:40
schestowitz> to his own opinion but not his own facts.Aug 16 08:40
schestowitzMore FUD from him... GPL bashingAug 16 08:40
schestowitzNow trying to deny thr obviousAug 16 08:40
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schestowitz[10:55] <schestowitz> Not too helpful around.....Aug 16 10:56
schestowitz[10:55] <schestowitz> 1<schestowitz_log>0 Hi, can I please have a cloak for schestowitz_log?Aug 16 10:56
schestowitz[10:56] <schestowitz> <jayne> schestowitz_log: schestowitz already has a cloakAug 16 10:56
schestowitz[10:56] <schestowitz> <schestowitz_log> I use a tool that insists on registering with same nicknameAug 16 10:56
schestowitz[10:56] <schestowitz> <jayne> schestowitz_log: we will not give cloaks to multiple accountsAug 16 10:56
schestowitz[10:56] <schestowitz> <schestowitz_log> OK, thanksAug 16 10:56
schestowitzThis is annoyingAug 16 10:57
schestowitzxchat has a bugAug 16 10:57
schestowitzknown bugAug 16 10:57
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schestowitzHeh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CringelyAug 16 14:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KBAug 16 14:27
schestowitz"In 1998, it was revealed[6][7][8]  that Stephens had falsely claimed to have received a Ph.D. from Stanford University and to have been employed as a professor there. Stanford's administration stated that while Stephens had been a teaching assistant and had pursued course work toward a doctoral degree, he had never held a professorship nor had he been awarded the degree. Stephens then stated that while he had received aAug 16 14:27
schestowitzmaster's degree from the department of communications and completed the classes and tests required for the Ph.D., he acknowledged that he failed to complete his dissertation. Asked about the resulting controversy, Stephens told a reporter: "[A] new fact has now become painfully clear to me: you don't say you have the Ph.D unless you really  have the Ph.D.""Aug 16 14:27
schestowitzLook at Hovind :-)Aug 16 14:27
MinceR:>Aug 16 14:28
schestowitz"@schestowitz What does Matt Asay want to tell us with this post http://bit.ly/drE3JD ? I'm puzzled..."Aug 16 19:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   Oracles Java Lawsuit: Free Markets, Not Free Software .::. Size~: 55.5 KBAug 16 19:10
schestowitzMatt Asay's analysis here is actually quite reasonable.Aug 16 19:10
schestowitzHe is clever, I sometimes just disagree with his POVAug 16 19:11
MinceRhe is clever, but his goals are far from noble.Aug 16 19:22
MinceRactually he usually isn't even clever.Aug 16 19:22
MinceRand there's a lot of spin in that article.Aug 16 19:25
MinceRclaiming that only google had anything to gain from androidAug 16 19:27
MinceR(why did htc and motorola get into the action then?)Aug 16 19:27
MinceRpushing .netAug 16 19:27
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/14/conflict-minerals-finance-gang-rapeAug 16 19:28
MinceRand of course missing the point entirelyAug 16 19:28
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  'Conflict minerals' finance gang rape in Africa | Margot Wallstrom | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 193.62 KBAug 16 19:28
schestowitzhypephohe mineralsAug 16 19:29
MinceRwhich is that open source isn't necessarily free softwareAug 16 19:29
MinceRand whoever mistakes it for that will be bitten hard by assholes like lawsuit larryAug 16 19:29
schestowitzHeheAug 16 19:29
MinceR(and that larry is willing to destroy java for short term gains or for his buddies)Aug 16 19:32
schestowitzHow much Java does Canonical use?Aug 16 19:34
schestowitz(on desktop)Aug 16 19:34
MinceRi don't know of any java they useAug 16 19:34
schestowitzUbuntu also works with Google a littleAug 16 19:34
MinceRthey're novell 2.0, after allAug 16 19:34
schestowitzNot that Asay knew it till we told himAug 16 19:34
MinceRwell, apparently google isn't as important to them nowAug 16 19:34
MinceRor to asayAug 16 19:35
schestowitzHe's a lawyerAug 16 19:35
schestowitzJust a lawyerAug 16 19:35
MinceRthat clown is a lawyer?Aug 16 19:35
schestowitzLawsuits=goodAug 16 19:35
schestowitzBusinessAug 16 19:35
schestowitzMinceR: yesAug 16 19:35
MinceRthat explains so muchAug 16 19:35
schestowitzLike what?Aug 16 19:35
MinceRcomplete cluelessness on technical termsAug 16 19:35
MinceRthe crApple cultism stemming from itAug 16 19:36
MinceRlack of morals and ethicsAug 16 19:36
schestowitzI agree on the first pointAug 16 19:36
MinceRresulting hatred of free softwareAug 16 19:36
schestowitzHe wrote some posts about inability to understand codeAug 16 19:36
schestowitzEven "Hello WOrld" programsAug 16 19:36
schestowitzHe works with wordsAug 16 19:36
schestowitzNot syntax that's mamaticalAug 16 19:36
schestowitz*thAug 16 19:36
schestowitzMarkS can codeAug 16 19:37
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/15/south-africa-troops-somaliaAug 16 20:15
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  South Africa considers sending troops to back Somalia mission | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 110.54 KBAug 16 20:15
schestowitzSri Lanka general who defeated Tamil Tigers convicted in court martialAug 16 20:55
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/13/kashmir-protests-killed-ramadanAug 16 20:55
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Kashmir protests erupt into violence after government troops kill four | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 71.35 KBAug 16 20:55
schestowitzNobody in he West cares..Aug 16 20:55
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/12/iran-stoning-sentences-commuted-ashtianiAug 16 20:57
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Ashtiani outrage spurs Iran to commute stoning sentences to hanging | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 74.37 KBAug 16 20:57
MinceRif the java patent license only applies to "compliant" implementations then java is just as non-free as .netAug 16 21:38
MinceRand monoAug 16 21:38
MinceRviolates freedom 3Aug 16 21:39
MinceRand freedom 1Aug 16 21:39
MinceRwhy did nobody mention this, ever?Aug 16 21:39
schestowitzI don't kniwAug 16 22:04
schestowitzMaybe ask in the other channel..Aug 16 22:04
schestowitzhehe http://tinyogg.com/watch/sbQGO/Aug 16 22:04
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