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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:26 2010Aug 19 20:58
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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010Aug 19 23:30
schestowitzcontext:Aug 19 23:36
schestowitz"@schestowitz yeah, but that's like saying wikipedia is astroturfed by goverment agencies- it happens, it gets reported on, they haven't exactly taken over yet but of course they try #wikis"Aug 19 23:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/attachment/25368792Aug 19 23:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: http://file.status.net/identica/openuniverse-20100818T162338-q8xlcj2.html - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.74 KBAug 19 23:37
schestowitzMono trolls still abound eg http://twitter.com/my_angel_rocks/statuses/21520135021Aug 19 23:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / iain x: Does anyone else read Dr.  ... .::. Size~: 9.05 KBAug 19 23:39
schestowitz'Does anyone else read Dr. Roy @schestowitz in a Dr. Nick Riviera voice?Hi Dr. Roy!#boycottboy"Aug 19 23:39
schestowitz"It's a sad fact that, on Twitter, the use of the title Dr is usually a signal to avoid. Rare exceptions to this are @schestowitz & @aleksk"Aug 19 23:39
schestowitzEven the Microsoft MVP is Turfin' vs Oracle/Java now http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/statuses/21517772795Aug 19 23:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Miguel de Icaza: Someone angry at Oracle is ... .::. Size~: 12 KBAug 19 23:40
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schestowitz_logtessier_: could you please mail me xchat logs from Wednesday onwards (or the whole of 3 files for the three channels)?Aug 20 05:53
oiaohm_Miguel is being stupidAug 20 07:06
oiaohm_His actions could truly bring dark side of orcale down on novell.Aug 20 07:06
schestowitzHe's trolling me tooAug 20 07:07
schestowitzTactless if you ask meAug 20 07:07
oiaohm_Ie Orcale buy company out and destory every single one of there products.Aug 20 07:07
oiaohm_And fire the staff.Aug 20 07:07
oiaohm_It would not be the first time.Aug 20 07:07
oiaohm_orcale is not know for taking incorrect press well.Aug 20 07:08
schestowitzDid you see TheLarry's mail to Forbes?Aug 20 07:17
schestowitzOr was it Fortune?Aug 20 07:17
schestowitzHe called the writer "scam bag" some days agoAug 20 07:17
schestowitzAfter calling people "idiots"Aug 20 07:17
oiaohm_Yep this is a worry.Aug 20 07:21
oiaohm_Name a time that the head of Orcale has backed down.   schestowitzAug 20 07:22
schestowitzIn what sense?Aug 20 07:23
schestowitzGeez! THis keyboard is driving me nutsAug 20 07:23
schestowitzI'm gonna have to find another one. SrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhAug 20 07:24
schestowitzOne fuse blew on my second monitor too last night... tough timeAug 20 07:24
oiaohm_I don't know of orcale ever backing down from a fight.Aug 20 07:30
schestowitzWhich fights?Aug 20 07:41
schestowitzTalking over companies for example?Aug 20 07:42
oiaohm_With other companies.Aug 20 07:44
schestowitzAny specific examples?Aug 20 08:04
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20013897-64.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20Aug 20 08:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Intel's 'Sandy Bridge' to use new specialized silicon | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 109.46 KBAug 20 08:08
oiaohm_Oracle was one of the few companies to bring anti-trust against MS in the USA.  schestowitzAug 20 08:28
oiaohm_Over desktop operating systems.Aug 20 08:28
schestowitzNetPC/Aug 20 08:34
schestowitzEllison also helped expose Zuck/ACT/ATLAug 20 08:35
schestowitzhttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,49039,00.htmlAug 20 08:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Peeping Larry - TIME .::. Size~: 46.16 KBAug 20 08:35
oiaohm_Yep all things they could have sweept under carpet. schestowitzAug 20 08:35
oiaohm_Basically for the good Oracle has done if it wants to be a little heavy handed with java in my eyes they earnt the right.Aug 20 08:36
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Critical-Vulnerability-Silently-Patched-in-Linux-Kernel-152678.shtmlAug 20 08:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Critical Vulnerability Silently Patched in Linux Kernel -  - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.6 KBAug 20 08:39
schestowitzeekAug 20 08:39
schestowitzoiaohm_: at the expense of Java's successAug 20 08:39
schestowitzThey only harm themselvesAug 20 08:39
schestowitzI don't think they envisioned this reactionAug 20 08:39
schestowitzThe FFII reckons someone is playing ORCL by sensationsalismAug 20 08:40
schestowitz*nalAug 20 08:40
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/oracle-opensolaris-ditch-draws-developer-ire-62202164.htmAug 20 08:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Oracle OpenSolaris ditch draws developer ire - Software - News .::. Size~: 66.4 KBAug 20 08:40
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-oracle-dooms-its-prospects-in-open-source-business/7181Aug 20 08:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Shuttleworth: Oracle dooms its prospects in open source business | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 121.03 KBAug 20 08:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/46408516#notice-46768772 "where you stand on this discussion?"Aug 20 10:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.43 KBAug 20 10:05
schestowitzIt's still hard to tell how smart  it is to denounce SCO; it's best to convince them to drop the case.Aug 20 10:06
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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:26 2010Aug 20 19:34
tessier_schestowitz: Mailing you the chat logs...Aug 20 20:00
schestowitzThanks so much!Aug 20 20:00
schestowitzI'll merge themAug 20 20:00
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