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| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not everyone who wants #privacy tries to build a bomb. People sometimes want to keep their love life private, esp. with Murdoch's snooping | Aug 24 00:00 |
| schestowitz | "No, it's amazing that the government thinks it needs employees to spy on the people who elected them. If memory serves, the first words of the Constitution of the United States are "We The People" - not, "This All-Powerful Government"." | Aug 24 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1885440 | Aug 24 09:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Gnome Message Tray Gets A Major Facelift http://www.muktware.com/4192/gnome-message-tray-gets-major-facelift #gnu | Aug 24 09:04 |
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| schestowitz | "As an unabashed KDE fanboy, I really must look at Gnome3 some time. I always hear people bitching about it, but I have to say the screenshots look purdy.." | Aug 24 09:04 |
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| qu1j0t3 | "CNN.com Recently Published/Updated - Syria 101: A crash course on the conflict - 2 hours ago" | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | WHOSE crash course | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | from what I can gather, both sides are brutalising | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | better not to kill yet more with air strikes | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | they still manufacture consent | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | with lybia in people's memory it's still hard to manufacture it | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Iraq's PR campaign makes it harder to use the "WMoD" pretext for Iran invasion | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | gotta love the term "Crash course"; who's the DUMMY? | Aug 24 14:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: right. | Aug 24 14:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | it woudl be very interesting to compare CNN's crash course with the narratives injected into NYT, Reuters, Murdoch press. | Aug 24 14:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | you could get on drone kill list with a thorough analysis like that :) | Aug 24 14:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | or maybe into an embassy | Aug 24 14:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | NATO is just angling for the right action to maximise post-conflict gain | Aug 24 14:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | while making it appear it's humanitarian | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's only 1 narrative that works for western public | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | (same one as Libya) | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is "squash the bad man" | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | so they make sure 'our' rebels win | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'the good guys' | Aug 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz | rebels are good | Aug 24 15:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | and ensure that Assad brutality is never out of the headlines | Aug 24 15:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | as long as they's not US rebels | Aug 24 15:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'our' rebels are good | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | then they call them "domesic terrorists" | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | or "radical dissidents" | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | or vets | Aug 24 15:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | they can crush 'bad' rebels (i.e. genuine resistance) at the same time | Aug 24 15:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's win-win-win for nato | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | "remember TIMOTHY MCVEIGH!!" | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | need to dent it | Aug 24 15:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/239000875220209666 | Aug 24 15:07 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: #Iraq, #Libya, #Syria, #Egypt: There is only 1 narrative easily sold 2 Western publics—"squash the bad man". NATO will support "its" rebels. | Aug 24 15:07 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:05] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] West: we like rebels, we support them against rogue "regimes"; we call our rebels "domestic terrorists" if they antagonise regi..err..govt. | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:05] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] West: you crash planes into buildings, we'll invade random Arab country, kill a million, then invade another at random, do *drone* strikes | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:06] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a drone *crashes* into a dissident (and 10 bystanders), is that "suicide bombing", "kamikaze", or "mission accomplished"? | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:08] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Israel does not have suicide bombs; it has American-bought F16s with missiles and illegal cluster bombs that 'happen' to kill bystanders | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:08] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] I support the West, I support democracy, I don't support hypocrisy, I don't think we have democracy yet (just PR buzzword used sparingly) | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:10] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] The West struggles to manufacture consent for Syria because of Lybia; it struggles to manufacture consent for Iran because of Iraq. | Aug 24 15:11 |
| schestowitz | [15:11] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Both Egypt and Tunisia had brutal dictators in charge; the thing is, they were 'our' dictators, just like Saddam Hussein in the 80s. | Aug 24 15:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | Aug 24 15:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | and 'our' rebels are easily converted into 'our' dictators; anyone remember contra business? | Aug 24 15:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/96261894 | Aug 24 15:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Pedro Gras (ghostdancer)'s status on Friday, 24-Aug-12 14:09:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz congrats and enjoy yourselves all that you can , we'll take care of the internet while you're out. :-) | Aug 24 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/96261995 | Aug 24 15:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Pedro Gras (ghostdancer)'s status on Friday, 24-Aug-12 14:15:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you know they were "our son of a bitch" , western countries have always turned their eyes when needed. | Aug 24 15:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | +1 | Aug 24 15:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/238854606573146112 | Aug 24 15:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | @eevblog: WTF?! There is a Julian Assange "Terrorist Trading Card" by RBCB Inc http://t.co/PnQCpEw0 http://t.co/uMj8FSAf @wikileaks | Aug 24 15:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Aug 24 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/96262997 | Aug 24 16:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 24-Aug-12 15:11:39 UTC - Identi.ca: GIMP 2.8.2 has just been officially released. Yesterday I experimented for 10 minutes w/ it,putting Rianne's face in IU http://ur1.ca/a0s3g | Aug 24 16:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Aug 24 16:12 |
| schestowitz | "Truthful - Factual - Honorable - Indifferent to Political Correctness " | Aug 24 16:14 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/08/23/wiki-weapon-project-aims-to-create-a-gun-anyone-can-3d-print-at-home/ | Aug 24 16:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: 'Wiki Weapon Project' Aims To Create A Gun Anyone Can 3D-Print At Home - Forbes .::. Size~: 88.14 KB | Aug 24 16:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | just what I always wanted ! a gun! | Aug 24 16:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1892701 | Aug 24 16:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @alien23@joindiaspora.com: <b>AND THE WINDOWS 8 SECURITY HORRORS CONTINUE TO SURFACE</b><br> (via @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com})<br> http://log.nadim.cc/?p=78<br> According to Microsoft, SmartScreen sends a hash of the app installer and its digital signature, if any. A combination of the hash and the user’s IP address is still enough to identify that IP address <b>x</b> attempted to install software <b>y</b>.< | Aug 24 16:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Windows 8 Tells Microsoft About Everything You Install, Not Very Securely | Nadim Kobeissi .::. Size~: 32.52 KB | Aug 24 16:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: THIS IS BAT COUNTRY - YouTube .::. Size~: 154.44 KB | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | <b>AND THE WINDOWS 8 SECURITY HORRORS CONTINUE TO SURFACE</b><br> (via Dr. Roy Schestowitz)<br> http://log.nadim.cc/?p=78<br> According to Microsoft, SmartScreen sends a hash of the app installer and its digital signature, if any. A combination of the hash and the user’s IP address is still enough to identify that IP address <b>x</b> attempted to install software <b>y</b>.<br> | Aug 24 16:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Windows 8 Tells Microsoft About Everything You Install, Not Very Securely | Nadim Kobeissi .::. Size~: 32.52 KB | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | marc fleury STEP ON IT MAN! WE CAN'T STOP HERE!<br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8gAtTxWhUY | Aug 24 16:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: THIS IS BAT COUNTRY - YouTube .::. Size~: 153.77 KB | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft #Windows #Vista #Windows8 #Vista8 #InfoSec #NetSec #Security #IT #Anonymous | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 24 16:19 |
| schestowitz | adspud gun? | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: spud gun? | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | you could probably modify it | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | or use a barrel and some DIY | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | It's bullets that matter | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | and for them you need particular chemicals | Aug 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | a gun is just a detonate to detonate bullets | Aug 24 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Guns don't kill people, bullets do | Aug 24 16:21 |
| schestowitz | !google number of bullets per american citizen | Aug 24 16:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Prison Planet.com » The U.S. government's coming war with the ... | http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-u-s-governments-coming-war-with-the-american-people-insane-quantities-of-govt-ammo-purchases-point-to-only-one-purpose.html | Aug 24 16:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Social Security Administration To Purchase 174 Thousand Rounds Of | http://www.dailypaul.com/249086/social-security-administration-to-purchase-174-thousand-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets | Aug 24 16:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot? | The Daily Caller | http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/who-does-the-government-intend-to-shoot/ | Aug 24 16:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Government Agencies Stockpiling Enough Ammo to Put 5 Bullets in ... | http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2012/08/government-agencies-stockpiling-enough-ammo-to-put-5-bullets-in-every-american-2450112.html | Aug 24 16:21 |
| MinceR | "Guns don't kill people, I do!" | Aug 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | yeah :-) | Aug 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | wounds do | Aug 24 16:24 |
| schestowitz | gun hammers bullet base | Aug 24 16:24 |
| schestowitz | chain reaction ensues | Aug 24 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | "don't blame the technology!" | Aug 24 16:24 |
| schestowitz | bullets flies and sometimes revolves | Aug 24 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | okay, we won't. let's blame the culture and corruption | Aug 24 16:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | fix it. | Aug 24 16:24 |
| schestowitz | punctures holes, pieces skin, causes internal bleeding and the likes of that | Aug 24 16:24 |
| schestowitz | and then there's the person squeezing the trigger, and potentially a provocation source | Aug 24 16:25 |
| MinceR | then there's the parents of those people | Aug 24 16:25 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what do you think of gun apologists who tell me, people would use knives and swords instead? | Aug 24 16:25 |
| MinceR | the reason they exist | Aug 24 16:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: LOL! YEAH! | Aug 24 16:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: or bare hands | Aug 24 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Because that's what happens in CANADA Australia and every other guncontrolling country ALL THE TIME | Aug 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz | I guess showing charts in countries based on their gun laws might help, but demography is not the same | Aug 24 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: ...not. | Aug 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz | say, if Denmark and Sweden had opposite gun control laws, you would be able to make a case | Aug 24 16:26 |
| MinceR | funny, people don't go around shooting other people in Switzerland | Aug 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz | to kill someone with a knife is hard | Aug 24 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | no shit. | Aug 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz | you need to REALLY WANT to kill the person | Aug 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz | and be ruthless | Aug 24 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | look, it's a no-brainer. | Aug 24 16:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | the gun homicide rate is largely about availability. | Aug 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | one finger versus multiple stabs on person shouting for mercy | Aug 24 16:27 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: or just break the law and get a gun despite gun control laws. | Aug 24 16:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: yep. | Aug 24 16:27 |
| MinceR | "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" | Aug 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | guns also lead to racial tensions | Aug 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | since the days of anti-Negro slavery | Aug 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | the whites fear the blacks, and vice versa | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | and the police in the US is better armed | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | I cannot blame them | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Many cops there get shot at | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | and it makes them more brutal and more resistant to humour etc. | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | they're shown videos where cops are killed by armed civilians | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | the soluition is, take the war element out of ordinary society | Aug 24 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | no shit | Aug 24 16:28 |
| schestowitz | !google carlin we love war | Aug 24 16:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - George Carlin - We Like War - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsDkhzHQO7jY | Aug 24 16:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - George Carlin - We Like War - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUaS2bRGS86c | Aug 24 16:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - George Carlin 'We Like War' - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2Rlqjxst6xU | Aug 24 16:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - George Carlin ~ We Like War [Video] | http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/13463/George_Carlin___We_Like_War/ | Aug 24 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | insteadof fomenting it? | Aug 24 16:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is the status quo | Aug 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | "because We good at it" | Aug 24 16:29 |
| MinceR | how do you take the war element out of ordinary society? | Aug 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | confiscation | Aug 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | not that the fringe folks would like it | Aug 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | and it would take ages | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | too many bullets abound | Aug 24 16:30 |
| MinceR | and it wouldn't work | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | I think there's like 3 times more guns than people in the US, maybe 2 | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | iirc, canada has registry | Aug 24 16:30 |
| MinceR | are you implying that one person can fire aimed shots from multiple such guns at a time? :> | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | or maybe it's just being proposed | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | in a new bil | Aug 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: see south african protests | Aug 24 16:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: canada is losing its gun registries. | Aug 24 16:31 |
| schestowitz | sometimes you just need some fire power | Aug 24 16:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Harper Cons don't want gun control | Aug 24 16:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they are trying to recreate US problems here | Aug 24 16:31 |
| schestowitz | like a firing squad on 30 people | Aug 24 16:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's their constant obsession | Aug 24 16:31 |
| MinceR | ah, so there's one thing harper is doing right | Aug 24 16:31 |
| MinceR | probably not worth it for all those other things | Aug 24 16:32 |
| abeNd-org | well, if you ban guns you also need to ban pointy objects, plenty of stories about knife wielding weirdos in other countries stabbing people lately | Aug 24 16:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | we have no problem with gun violence here. | Aug 24 16:32 |
| MinceR | abeNd-org: you also need to ban limbs. | Aug 24 16:32 |
| MinceR | oh, and heads | Aug 24 16:32 |
| abeNd-org | yep, just ban everything | Aug 24 16:32 |
| abeNd-org | dont allow people out of their homes | Aug 24 16:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | gun control has worked here, and most other places. e.g. Brazil. | Aug 24 16:32 |
| MinceR | and any technology that can move objects or emit energy in any form | Aug 24 16:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | Australia. | Aug 24 16:32 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: where and how many csualties? | Aug 24 16:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | the country without gun control (USA) has the worst problem of all. coincidence? | Aug 24 16:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | whatever they're doing, they're doing it wrong. | Aug 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | they blame "niggers" | Aug 24 16:33 |
| abeNd-org | who the hell uses that term these days? | Aug 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | many | Aug 24 16:33 |
| MinceR | usa is not the only country where citizens get to own guns | Aug 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | but not publicly | Aug 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | and not educated folks | Aug 24 16:33 |
| abeNd-org | I have lived in Georgia & Texas since 2000 & have not hear anyone use that word outside of a rap song | Aug 24 16:34 |
| schestowitz | go to Mississippi, try some white men's pub | Aug 24 16:34 |
| MinceR | also, usian madness is probably not inflicted by the presence of guns | Aug 24 16:34 |
| schestowitz | they also say "fags" and stuff | Aug 24 16:34 |
| abeNd-org | Michigan is more racist than GA & TX... | Aug 24 16:34 |
| schestowitz | people live there? | Aug 24 16:34 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: "we don't take kindly to your types around here!" | Aug 24 16:35 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz the smart ones left MI long ago (myself included) | Aug 24 16:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "i shall switach to DVORAK layout" | Aug 24 16:35 |
| MinceR | oops, left out a word | Aug 24 16:35 |
| MinceR | s/kind/too kind/ | Aug 24 16:35 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: and one person in the #techrights channel too (won't name him) | Aug 24 16:36 |
| schestowitz | MI is English-speaking Colombia? :-) | Aug 24 16:36 |
| abeNd-org | perhaps i live in a sheltered world, but as an IT consultant I have worked all over GA & TX (as well as spent time in other close states) working all sorts of white & blue collar companies, never have I heard that word used (outside of a rap song) | Aug 24 16:36 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz is that person in lower or upper peninsula? | Aug 24 16:37 |
| schestowitz | upper | Aug 24 16:37 |
| abeNd-org | lower isnt so bad, upper is so bad no one stateside or in .CA wants them | Aug 24 16:37 |
| schestowitz | he left the US | Aug 24 16:37 |
| abeNd-org | "only thing that happens in upper MI is mining & drinking, usually at the same time" | Aug 24 16:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/cbarrett/status/239023564886515713 | Aug 24 16:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | @cbarrett: Guns: cool, easy to get. Mental healthcare: uncool, hard to get. So bullshit. | Aug 24 16:38 |
| abeNd-org | easy, get shot, have no health insurance, use the emergency room | Aug 24 16:38 |
| abeNd-org | ;) | Aug 24 16:38 |
| abeNd-org | win win! | Aug 24 16:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 24 16:38 |
| schestowitz | some people immigate to the UK or sneak in as faux tourists for the NHS to give them free treatment | Aug 24 16:39 |
| schestowitz | insurance tourism | Aug 24 16:39 |
| abeNd-org | "gun control" in the form of "take all guns away from everyone" will not work in the US, there are too many legit hunters even to do that. Take away deer season & youll have riots | Aug 24 16:40 |
| MinceR | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/06/02 | Aug 24 16:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Penny Arcade - K-Mart: Saving Lives .::. Size~: 12.14 KB | Aug 24 16:40 |
| abeNd-org | I am not an avid hunter, but were you wanting to take away my hunting rifle, use legally for deer season, I'll have a problem with that | Aug 24 16:41 |
| MinceR | don't worry, they only want to take them away so the people can't protect themselves from the government :> | Aug 24 16:41 |
| abeNd-org | do I need an AK47 for hunting? umm...no, for one, there wouldnt be any usable meat left, for another they arent very accurate compared to a rifle | Aug 24 16:42 |
| abeNd-org | a bazooka for hunting? sure, i could see the use for that :P | Aug 24 16:43 |
| MinceR | it would badly mangle the meat | Aug 24 16:44 |
| MinceR | for self-defense, it's fine, though | Aug 24 16:44 |
| abeNd-org | LOL | Aug 24 16:45 |
| abeNd-org | "so this guy broke into my house & tried to kill me & rape my wife, so I shot him" "so where is he?" "oh, i shot him with a bazooka, he is over there...and there...and i think thats some of him up there on the ceiling too" | Aug 24 16:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 24 16:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | strangely enough, that doesn't happen. it's a fantasy. | Aug 24 16:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | entirely. | Aug 24 16:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | I call it the Dirty Harry fantasy. | Aug 24 16:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | countries aren't safe because every Dirty Harry fantasist is armed. | Aug 24 16:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | (and yeah, there are safe countries. they have fewer guns, not more) | Aug 24 16:48 |
| abeNd-org | yes, the bazooka comment was a "joke" | Aug 24 16:48 |
| MinceR | in those "safe" countries, are the authorities armed? | Aug 24 16:48 |
| abeNd-org | but if you are saying people dont break into other peoples houses & try to kill them, then you are the one living in a fantasy world, just read any daily police blotter in just about any town | Aug 24 16:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: thank god | Aug 24 16:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: adding more guns doesn't improve that picture. | Aug 24 16:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC is the poster child for this fantasy. I think it must run in his head 24/7. He takes his guns to bars... | Aug 24 16:50 |
| abeNd-org | qu1j0t3: not saying it does, but you also want to remove any possibility of self defense | Aug 24 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: guns aren't the factor that make a country safe. | Aug 24 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: there is quite a lot of evidence to the contrary. | Aug 24 16:50 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: does restricting guns to criminals improve the picture? | Aug 24 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | we have a /total/ homicide rate of ~100 per year in a region of 5.5 million. | Aug 24 16:51 |
| abeNd-org | qu1j0t3: what about this city? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia | Aug 24 16:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Kennesaw, Georgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 171.94 KB | Aug 24 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: yes. it works. | Aug 24 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | what doesn't work: whatever the USA is doing. | Aug 24 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | just look at the statistics. | Aug 24 16:52 |
| abeNd-org | qu1j0t3: if you could guarantee me that you could remove all the guns from the criminals, then great, take away non hunting weapons | Aug 24 16:52 |
| abeNd-org | oh wait, criminals could care less about laws... | Aug 24 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: ^^ | Aug 24 16:52 |
| abeNd-org | Crime statistics Kennesaw crime rates are less than half of US averages. - Gun law In 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21][18] (a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition there | Aug 24 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | if you need a gun to feel safe, your country is broken. | Aug 24 16:54 |
| MinceR | by that definition, every country is broken | Aug 24 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | thaknfully: not my problem. | Aug 24 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: nope! | Aug 24 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | clearly you haven't been around | Aug 24 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | try Canada | Aug 24 16:54 |
| MinceR | if your arguments for gun control make you feel safe then you're delusional | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | Australia | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | or Brazil | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: >> if you need a gun to feel safe, your country is broken. | Aug 24 16:55 |
| abeNd-org | qu1j0t3: so you are saying every road around whichever town you live in is perfectly safe? | Aug 24 16:55 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: 175435 < MinceR> by that definition, every country is broken | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd-org: re-read | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: nope! | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: get out more | Aug 24 16:55 |
| MinceR | no u | Aug 24 16:55 |
| abeNd-org | a big tittied hot naked woman (with a fannie pack stuffed with money) could go anywhere in your city & not worry about being raped or shot, or even mugged? | Aug 24 16:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | let me rephrase. if you need a gun to feel safe, your country is broken, or your head is messed up. | Aug 24 16:56 |
| abeNd-org | a little out there yes, but there is no way you can say every square inch of your town/city/country is perfectly safe | Aug 24 16:56 |
| abeNd-org | guns or not | Aug 24 16:56 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Earlier this month, police shot and killed a homeless man in midtown who was carrying a large knife--and this scene was captured by many locals and tourists armed with cell phone cameras. Wonder if anyone caught today's episode in prime tourist area. | Aug 24 16:57 |
| schestowitz | http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/cops-shoot-bystanders-in-midtown-new.html | Aug 24 16:57 |
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| MinceR | qu1j0t3: nice try, but it's your head that's messed up if you think that the law will prevent random criminals from carrying guns and that there will be a policeman on every corner to protect you if one of them starts shooting | Aug 24 16:57 |
| abeNd-org | soooo why was homeless man (yes yes, let down by society that he is homeless in the first place, or was he just nuts to begin with?) walking around with a large knife? | Aug 24 17:00 |
| abeNd-org | they could have tazered him sure, & he still could have died due to a heart condition | Aug 24 17:01 |
| abeNd-org | they could have tried to subdue him with force, & if he was hopped up on drugs it would have looked like the police needed to use "excessive force" to get the guy down | Aug 24 17:02 |
| abeNd-org | police & teachers, both have lose lose jobs, no matter what they do, people are pissed at them. they can never do anything right | Aug 24 17:03 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Aug 24 17:08 | |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/AP/status/238912379843399681 | Aug 24 17:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | @AP: AP Exclusive: Romney campaign uses secretive, high-tech data-mining project to find wealthy donors: http://t.co/0CweMA41 -RJJ | Aug 24 17:09 |
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| *qu1j0t3 is calling a GOP win in this election. not that it matters. | Aug 24 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | why? I doubt it... | Aug 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe they can deamonise Obama enough | Aug 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | either way, those in power will get theiir way | Aug 24 17:12 |
| schestowitz | regardless of who speaks for the US publicly | Aug 24 17:12 |
| MinceR | on the one hand it seems that the romney-bot has a lot more funding | Aug 24 17:12 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, he seems to be rather unrelatable and gaffe-tastic | Aug 24 17:12 |
| MinceR | i don't know how sensitive usian voters are to the latter | Aug 24 17:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there are a number of signs of dissatisfaction with obama among those who swing the vote :) | Aug 24 17:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: been calling those out for months now | Aug 24 17:14 |
| MinceR | well yes, there's the issue of the obama-bot breaking his promises | Aug 24 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | no | Aug 24 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | that might bother some voters | Aug 24 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | but i am talking about dissatisfaction at the level that decides the election | Aug 24 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not clear why, though. he's done all he was asked. (see broken promises) | Aug 24 17:16 |
| abeNd-org | so say obama wins this time around, just what do you think he can actually accomplish for the good of the citizens? | Aug 24 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | nothing. he's not there for them. | Aug 24 17:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's why it doesn't matter either way | Aug 24 17:19 |
| abeNd-org | I dont think Romney will do anything for "amreka" either (or whatever his typo was) | Aug 24 17:19 |
| MinceR | the choice between the two corporate puppets will at most determine some minor issues | Aug 24 17:20 |
| abeNd-org | so you are saying the US is screwed either way, & the only way to fix it is armed revolution against the govt? | Aug 24 17:21 |
| MinceR | not necessarily | Aug 24 17:23 |
| MinceR | if the voters would wise up and show (by voting) that they're willing to vote for other parties too, they could fix the system | Aug 24 17:23 |
| MinceR | of course they're extremely unlikely to do it, but it's their right and responsibility | Aug 24 17:24 |
| MinceR | or they could support a grassroots campaign finance reform like the one outlined by Lawrence Lessig | Aug 24 17:24 |
| MinceR | and thus reduce the influence of megacorporations over Congress | Aug 24 17:24 |
| abeNd-org | what other parties have enough visibility? ok, or heck, are allowed any visibility? even ron paul ends up being portrayed as the crazy drunken uncle at family reunions | Aug 24 17:25 |
| MinceR | interested citizens can find out about them | Aug 24 17:25 |
| MinceR | even i could, even though i'm not even a usian citizen | Aug 24 17:26 |
| MinceR | but they probably don't care | Aug 24 17:26 |
| MinceR | of course, democracy can't work well without interested and responsible citizens | Aug 24 17:26 |
| MinceR | but yes, the playing field is tilted heavily for the two big parties | Aug 24 17:26 |
| abeNd-org | most people are kept busy by work & family, entertainment, & a few by education, no one but jobless hippies in their mother's basement have enough time to "participate in the political process" | Aug 24 17:28 |
| MinceR | they have more time to do so than what they currently allocate to it | Aug 24 17:31 |
| MinceR | for example, i have a job and i still have time to look up and think whom to vote for | Aug 24 17:31 |
| MinceR | (not that it's likely to help at all in the future of hungary) | Aug 24 17:32 |
| abeNd-org | yes, it is about choice, i have work, family, working out, personal education, after that it doesnt leave much time even for entertainment | Aug 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1892784 | Aug 24 17:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: <img src="http://hosted.ap.org/photos/2/28a32fad-c977-46b8-b7b3-2516ec2bd0fd-big.jpg"><br> <b>BREAKING: AT LEAST SOME OF THE NINE BYSTANDERS SHOT AT THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WERE HIT BY POLICE AND NOT BY GUN MAN JEFFREY JOHNSON</b><br> http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2012/08/cops-shoot-bystanders-in-midtown-new.html #ESBShooting #EmpireState #NewYork #NY #Shootings #Economy #Jobs #Bloombe | Aug 24 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | "No matter how many shots came from this man and the police ... this is how it ends when you mix emotionally unstable man and permissive gun policy. People use every mean if they can. That's why the law should not allow guns in a first place. And police and other services should be monitored. That's the only way to avoid massive massacre scenarios. No wonder it happens mostly in USA ... keep up the bad work, USA!" | Aug 24 17:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | then there's Florida's magnificent Stand Your Ground: Make everyone terrified, give them guns, then give them carte blanche to shoot people they don't like. Hmmm | Aug 24 17:50 |
| abeNd-org | so why do massacres happen in other countries then? that canadian mall incident not too long ago | Aug 24 18:06 |
| MinceR | the law must not have used strong enough terms to forbid gun ownership to nonprivileged citizens | Aug 24 18:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 24 18:07 |
| abeNd-org | oh, so you mean the bad guys still found a way to get guns even though they are banned for the law abiding citizens? | Aug 24 18:09 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jpnKevin_T/statuses/238997789223309312 | Aug 24 18:20 |
| TechrightsSocial | @jpnKevin_T: @zunaid Mueller history http://t.co/0PSFrHSx Microsoft http://t.co/0EtZ9Elg & recently Oracle http://t.co/cIACf844 | Aug 24 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1892407 | Aug 24 18:22 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Nikola #Tesla #Steampunk #Teslapunk [  ](http://bit.ly/PGwOqY) Nikola Tesla Voltapunk character by Aeryn Davies http://bit.ly/PGwOqY | Aug 24 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | "it was made with Unreal engine?" | Aug 24 18:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0xLyKaNvP4&list=LLP0DYh2wtN1I5DK2bMalMXQ&feature=mh_lolz | Aug 24 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | good answers from him | Aug 24 19:29 |
| schestowitz | the West grants asymlum to secure people from unjeust prosecution based on Western standards, why can't ecuador? | Aug 24 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19291258 | Aug 24 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | he gave an excellent interview there, worth tuning into | Aug 24 19:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://features.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/039209/does-recent-goodwill-undo-years-of-patent-trolling-for-intellectual-ventures | Aug 24 19:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Does Recent Goodwill Undo Years of Patent Trolling For Intellectual Ventures? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 123.66 KB | Aug 24 19:41 |
| schestowitz | this was mentioned in #techrights moments ago | Aug 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | it's whitewash from the Microsoft booster in CNET | Aug 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | slashdot proves to be submissive again... to corporate propaganda | Aug 24 19:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | ya | Aug 24 19:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | not new :) | Aug 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | more from the same area | Aug 24 19:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2012/08/bellevue-startup-atigeo-takes-on.html | Aug 24 19:54 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bellevue startup Atigeo takes on medical research, presidential candidates, patents - Puget Sound Business Journal .::. Size~: 96.41 KB | Aug 24 19:54 |
| schestowitz | cu;t of patents | Aug 24 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | PR first http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2012/08/23/microsoft-unveils-a-new-look.aspx | Aug 24 20:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Microsoft Unveils a New Look - The Official Microsoft Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs .::. Size~: 95.52 KB | Aug 24 20:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | qu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/239039490721726464 | Aug 24 20:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: .@pigworker When Sweden wants to question a tourist in a sex case, UK govt doesn't usually lose bladder control. Also: http://t.co/4sXR9tri | Aug 24 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1892383 | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | "@c0r3nn I think the mobile companies will prevent this :(" | Aug 24 22:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @anonymiss@despora.de: ### Would you give the #government #administration remote #control over your #wireless lan router? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/would-you-give-the-government-remote-control-over-your-router/  #wifi #politics #democracy #trust #disaster #protection #security #ITN | Aug 24 22:16 |
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| TechrightsSocial | "@c0r3nn I think the mobile companies will prevent this :(" | Aug 24 22:16 |
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