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| schestowitz | What a crap economy in the US... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seSIu87OirI&feature=digest | Aug 25 12:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYZWQuEb5sM&feature=digest | Aug 25 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | Techrights climbed again in Netscraft just now | Aug 25 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | "Groklie" | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | "Understand lie" | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I don't have to debunk Groklie because there wasn't any particular claim, just a suggestion to ask a question and I answered it my way. I didn't see Groklie provide anything of substance that would have to be dealt with. | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Aug 25 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | Now the off-the-record part: I was really very disappointed that you always want to arrive at a strict black-and-white view of people. This results in grossly illogical things such as you quoting a ZDNet on Microsoft financials while blaming me for quoting from a ZDNet story on the Spanair crash. That's the kind of thing that is so illogical that I've given up hope that it's possible to have reasonable discussions of the | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | issues with you, no matter how hard I try (and I did try). | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Aug 25 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | I was flexible enough to accept that you aren't satisfied with the way I answer the Groklie question. I steered clear for a long time of belittling you with that Twitter hashtag etc. But it was you who didn't want to differentiate. The fact of the matter is that there are a number of issues on which we do agree, and a number on which we disagree, and your insistence on me departing from my consistent policy concerning that | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | kind of question is unrelated to any of the issues. | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Aug 25 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | For one of many possible examples, I think that your take on the OIN doesn't accurately take into account and reflect my criticsm of it. Your position is that any such initiative contributes to patent proliferation. That's also a concern of mine, but I would actually accept that downside if I could see a clear upside. Other than OIN's own highly unspecific propaganda (the victories they claim over Microsoft) and Groklie | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | parroting them, there really isn't any serious indication that OIN serves its purposes. I don't see that it has affected Microsoft's calculus concerning patent licensing in any way, so I believe the question is appropriate what the OIN really is about. Apparently it's not about protecting FOSS as the Oracle-Google case shows. So what do the six owner companies want? Why is Apache part of their "Linux System" but Dalvik is not | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | You do promote Android as a GNU/Linux distro, and that makes sense. Then Dalvik is an essential part of a strategically important Linux distro (while Apache is a cross-platform thing, available for Windows, too). | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Aug 25 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | I think that as long as all you want is bash me even in such unreasonable ways as the ZDNet context there's no way we can have a constructive dialog on Twitter or elsewhere. On your site, there's really a technical problem, at least with Chrome, because sometimes my postings don't get published although I don't get an error message. That's another reason for which I stopped having any discussion there. | Aug 25 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Aug 25 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | If you believe you have to support Groklie all the way, you can do so, but then people might as well go to the original Groklie site. | Aug 25 14:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 25 14:56 |
| MinceR | who wrote that? | Aug 25 15:02 |
| MinceR | and what GNU/Linux distro ships Dalvik? | Aug 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Florian | Aug 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know of none | Aug 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz | But My brother uses Eclipse with it | Aug 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz | "It might have been due to URLs but it happened several times and I don't think there were URLs included in all of those cases -- but not sure. I also did have technical problems with login: I logged in via the WordPress form but then on the page didn't get those "Reply" icons." | Aug 25 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Dalvik is only shipped in android. | Aug 25 15:18 |
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| oiaohm | Linux System define does not have to include Java so all java based might be out side of OIN cover schestowitz | Aug 25 15:19 |
| schestowitz | OIN is weird | Aug 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | They have this list of packages | Aug 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | And I had an argument about that with Hudson in 2008 | Aug 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | basically I foresaw OIN as ineffective in attacks | Aug 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Before TomTom, SCOracle and stuff like that | Aug 25 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Yes a list of what they protect. | Aug 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | cause FFII too explained this to me | Aug 25 15:30 |
| schestowitz | zoobab is the export | Aug 25 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Google is trying to make it out as a money alone issue. | Aug 25 15:30 |
| schestowitz | *expert | Aug 25 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Seams strange to me. | Aug 25 15:30 |
| oiaohm | I have never seen something fall a part in a form of a licence when it was just about cash. | Aug 25 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | [17:11] <jono> hey, any sign of DaemonFC? | Aug 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz | [17:12] <schestowitz> No, he's probably OK | Aug 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz |  | Aug 25 17:17 |
| schestowitz | [17:12] <jono> it's weird, I don't see him anywhere online | Aug 25 17:17 |
| MinceR | now jono's missing DaemonFC? | Aug 25 18:34 |
| schestowitz | I know, I know... | Aug 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | remorse over falling for m$'s marketing ploy and advertising them? :> | Aug 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Jono uses Vista 7 | Aug 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes. :-0 | Aug 25 19:35 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/HhyJ6.jpg | Aug 25 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | That's nice... my old uncle knew I follow Red Hat.. | Aug 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | > I thought you may have some interest in this article: | Aug 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/red-hat-sets-its-cloud-strategy-touts-portability-eyes-microsoft-azure-alterna | Aug 25 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I know some people in the company. | Aug 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=%22red+hat%22+schestowitz | Aug 25 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | My cousin and her friends act like lamers around this dude... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10-mCRgs7E&feature=digest | Aug 25 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't even know who he was... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Urban | Aug 25 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSZNsIFID28&feature=related | Aug 25 23:10 |
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