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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://tinyogg.com/watch/J9Zfv/ | Aug 27 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | ...I had actually made it very clear what my set of preferences is: | Aug 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | 1. No software patents => takes care of the whole problem | Aug 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | 2. royalty-free access is of course best if vendors are willing to grant it | Aug 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | 3. RAND is, however, better than exclusionary strategic use | Aug 27 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Aug 27 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | So it's only my #3 better-than-nothing preference and you make it sound as though it were my #1. | Aug 27 07:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 07:47 |
| schestowitz | Florian | Aug 27 07:47 |
| schestowitz | He uses Outlook | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Mirosoft Office | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | But says he uses FOSS on WIndows | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | "OpenForum Europe" | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | This is an organization worth defending from your point of view? They still | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | have the same chief executive named below. I don't attack them. If you look | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | at the substance of the four questions I asked them, they're all legitimate | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | to ask. After all, they're "open". Those questions would be legitimate even | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | without the background stated below. | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Aug 27 07:48 | |
| schestowitz | <http://eupat.ffii.org/xatra/ofeu034/index.en.html> | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | http://eupat.ffii.org/xatra/ofeu034/index.en.html | Aug 27 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | Open Forum Europe is lobbying the European Parliament in the name of "open | Aug 27 07:48 |
| schestowitz | source companies" in order to make software directly patentable and to | Aug 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz | ensure that interoperable software may not be written. We invited Graham | Aug 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Taylor of Open Forum to explain. An short dialog followed, in which Taylor | Aug 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz | presented himself as naively well-believing about the meaning of what he | Aug 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz | signed and reluctant to repair the damage. | Aug 27 07:49 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | RAND is anything but | Aug 27 07:51 |
| schestowitz | I know | Aug 27 07:54 |
| schestowitz | He did defend RAND | Aug 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | it's interesting how someone can defend RAND and claim to be pro-FOSS at the same time | Aug 27 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Even though it's absolutely not compatible with GPL. He said this in the comments somewhere | Aug 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | it's not compatible with any sort of free software | Aug 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: he doesn't defend FOSS | Aug 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz | And I was surprised he uses Outlook14 (?) | Aug 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz | Office 2010? | Aug 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz | Did Microsoft send him freebies? | Aug 27 07:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=outlook+14&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Aug 27 07:56 |
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| MinceR | http://adsoftheworld.com/blog/blasphemous_posters_hit_new_zealand | Aug 27 10:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Blasphemous posters hit New Zealand | Ads of the World .::. Size~: 85.14 KB | Aug 27 10:15 |
| schestowitz | Let's declare Linux a religion | Aug 27 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Then we can put its detractors in PRISON :-) :-) | Aug 27 10:25 |
| oiaohm | That would be interesting. | Aug 27 10:38 |
| MinceR | it would be disastrous | Aug 27 10:39 |
| MinceR | the whole point of not doing tech the m$/crApple way is that we're not following a religion, we're thinking for ourselves. | Aug 27 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Wonder what perks it could give us. | Aug 27 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Like jedi get way with whereing hoods inside. | Aug 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | yay, virtualbox is still a pile of shit | Aug 27 10:42 |
| MinceR | now it's not the kernel module shitting all over kernel module, it's the Guest Additions module crashing the guest | Aug 27 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Chiropractors used this trick, almost | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | I recently discovered that | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Faith is insane as it gets protection it does not deserve | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | John Smith or whatever the guy behind chiro was called got slammed for him scam | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | So about 100 years ago he considered registering it as a religion | Aug 27 10:50 |
| schestowitz | *LOL*s @ " shitting all over kernel module," | Aug 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Qemu got obscure | Aug 27 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Qemu and kvm are overlapping more and more. | Aug 27 12:02 |
| schestowitz | ARe they? | Aug 27 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Code-wise too? | Aug 27 13:20 |
| MinceR | afaik the userspace part of KVM is a modified version of QEMU which still retains all userspace QEMU functionality | Aug 27 13:25 |
| MinceR | they might have been merged already | Aug 27 13:25 |
| MinceR | why invite all the trolls to #techrights? :> | Aug 27 13:25 |
| schestowitz | One is a troll | Aug 27 13:29 |
| schestowitz | One is indoctrinated | Aug 27 13:30 |
| MinceR | they both generate noise | Aug 27 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Code from kvm qemu ends up mainline qemu | Aug 27 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Even kvm and qemu share the same acceleration drivers. | Aug 27 13:41 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: did you see my suggestion re split twitter feeds by 'usual topic' | Aug 27 15:50 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't see it? | Aug 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday in irc? | Aug 27 16:16 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/irascian "IT Consultant specialising in Microsoft Silverlight and ASP.NET. Playing with video on the side. Has unhealthy addiction to watching movies on Blu-Ray." | Aug 27 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/irascian/status/22261206013 | Aug 27 16:23 |
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| schestowitz | Many more like this | Aug 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/_Goblin/statuses/22260776335 "Silver what Roy? ;) - Never heard of it.... No sorry, never seen that on the web before. ;)" | Aug 27 16:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/smist08/statuses/22277844430 "Microsoft finally killing Silverlight: http://techrights.org/2010/08/23/silverlight-dying/ Let's hope so." | Aug 27 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/simonech ".NET developer with a passion for climbing" | Aug 27 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/simonech/status/22273027162 "I think this just wrong RT @kdarty: RT @Mariusdt: Is Silverlight Unofficially Dead Now? http://bit.ly/9LhNcu #Microsoft #Silverlight #HTML5" | Aug 27 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | They are not happy, it's not good for them | Aug 27 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/AlanMorrison/statuses/22277634423 "Subtract Silverlight as in this scenario (http://bit.ly/aoimhV, via @sardire). Are Silverlight and Pivot too interdependent?" | Aug 27 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | > Comparing 27 days of August and the full 31 Day of July, Visits in August | Aug 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | > outnumber July by over 2 to 1. | Aug 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | > So I ask, did you somehow change the way visits are counted? | Aug 27 20:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | > Is there something new that is directing users to my web log? | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | > I notice "Feeds" increased a whopping 1400%. Could that be the answer? | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | > Or is it content, variety and quality that all of a sudden caught fire? | Aug 27 20:42 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to tell, but I'd just write, not worry about it. | Aug 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20070514.gif | Aug 27 20:46 |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Aug 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Imagine living in the US where many people are like this...... | Aug 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/47704013 "♺ @jwildeboer ♺ @schestowitz: Count the number of Macs in this Ubuntu/Canonical meeting http://ur1.ca/1atux #walkthewalk < I think it's 3?" | Aug 27 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/47704151 "@ashcrow: @jwildeboer: @schestowitz: Mac hardware != OSX Software. I run Fedora on my macs." | Aug 27 20:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Jesse Keating (jkeating)'s status on Friday, 27-Aug-10 19:34:23 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.29 KB | Aug 27 20:49 |
| schestowitz | True, but why feed Apple? It's commodity hardware with some logos and elevated price. | Aug 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | SJVN is pimping a lot of Dell junk | Aug 27 20:51 |
| MinceR | shoddy commodity hardware | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Should I remove it? | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Aug 27 20:51 |
| MinceR | with shoddy software | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | My sister told me today she had to send her 2-week-old "touch" to the store for repair | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | They got replacement parts | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | It didn't even fall or anything | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Shame on those kids | Aug 27 20:51 |
| schestowitz | I tell her not to insult it... made by very small kids | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | For less than GBP 100 | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Apple sells it for like quadruple the price | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Jobs hoards | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Nothing given from the margins to factory workers | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Capitalism at the extreme | Aug 27 20:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://identi.ca/conversation/47329700#notice-47705876 "@schestowitz Because in many cases it's not just commodity hardware, it's hardware and configuration you can't get elsewhere." | Aug 27 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | You should reply to him | Aug 27 20:53 |
| schestowitz | He's from Fedora | Aug 27 20:53 |
| MinceR | i don't think that's really the extreme of capitalism | Aug 27 20:53 |
| MinceR | lock-in and other anticompetitive behavior is anticapitalist | Aug 27 20:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Aug 27 20:54 |
| schestowitz | @jkeating from experience in the family (even today!), Apple has very rubbish hardware, prone to defects | Aug 27 20:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | but beautifully lucrative | Aug 27 20:54 |
| schestowitz | The brand, yeah | Aug 27 20:55 |
| schestowitz | So is Kabbalah and sh** | Aug 27 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | David Love's paper is a decent critique of "capitalism" as she is practised. | Aug 27 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | article* | Aug 27 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Stupid cults can attract some fools like Tom Cruise or Madonna | Aug 27 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-a-love/capitalism-is-killing-us_b_693214.html | Aug 27 20:55 |
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| FurnaceBoy | "many things are possible when you don't have those annoyances, those minor nuisances like environmental regulations, workplace safety, worker's rights, and democratic government. Chinese-style capitalism seems to be a purer form than its U.S. counterpart, and therefore a Republican nirvana, minus the part about government planning. " | Aug 27 20:56 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Scandinavia mixed more with elements of socialism | Aug 27 20:57 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you commie! | Aug 27 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Don't share at work :-) | Aug 27 20:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ah yes, you saw the non-sequitur that my co-worker threw at me | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | I remember when Charlie Sheen's... no, another guy's dad... can't recall his name was labeled communists' sympathiser | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | He get flack and trouble for it | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Penn | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | ANd his son supported the Iraqis | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Got trouble in Hollywood for that too | Aug 27 20:58 |
| schestowitz | I *think* that was Sean (??) Penn? | Aug 27 20:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKEz6DnZwg | Aug 27 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaw4i_8Su-o | Aug 27 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e_vcdNtLfs | Aug 27 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/8705 | Aug 27 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | Decent guy. Uses his brain like Damon | Aug 27 20:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: damn those hollywood liberals; where's joe mccarthy when you need him | Aug 27 21:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: my co-workers would happily defend mccarthy | Aug 27 21:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | "He was misunderstood." | Aug 27 21:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | "He loved Amehka too much!" | Aug 27 21:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's amusing that one can be labelled 'socialist' for *attacking* how China operates | Aug 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | PRC is not socialist | Aug 27 21:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: or by pointing out the equivalence between Chinese 'capitalism' the the GOP's dreamed of capitalist nurvana | Aug 27 21:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | nirvana* | Aug 27 21:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: see what i wrote | Aug 27 21:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | "it's amusing that one can be labelled 'socialist' for *attacking* how China operates" | Aug 27 21:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | it really says more about Crazytown USA than anything else. | Aug 27 21:09 |
| MinceR | http://zs1.smbc-comics.com/comics/20070307.gif | Aug 27 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/47706414 "@schestowitz: My family has had Apples for nearly 10 years with very little problems. AppleCare has taken care of the few." | Aug 27 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | [21:00] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: my co-workers would happily defend mccarthy | Aug 27 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Did they study at Texas schools? :-) | Aug 27 21:12 |
| schestowitz | I mean, after they revised the curricula | Aug 27 21:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: near enough. Florida can match TX redneck for redneck | Aug 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | SOuth qualifies | Aug 27 21:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Aug 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | I have many relatives in Florida | Aug 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | They suffer from the 'bubble' now | Aug 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | iN fLORIDA it's Cubans | Aug 27 21:14 |
| schestowitz | In Lousiana blacks | Aug 27 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Texas mostly Mexicans and south California too | Aug 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Those whom they blame | Aug 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | So they still are xenophobes | Aug 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonTroll is from the north, but still a xenophobe | Aug 27 21:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | you bet | Aug 27 21:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | git em brown people outta here | Aug 27 21:15 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/47330140#notice-47706557 "@schestowitz ive had two pieces of apple hardware and both failed hw-wise so i have to agree there. (ipod shuffle + g3 tower)" | Aug 27 21:15 |
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| FurnaceBoy | gosh, hardware fails eventually? who knew | Aug 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | the question is how quickly they do so | Aug 27 21:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, i've managed studios of 100s of macs | Aug 27 21:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | over 15-20 years | Aug 27 21:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | and i don't think i ever saw one 'fail' | Aug 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | perhaps you managed it with a blindfold | Aug 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there was a week when 10 hypePhones exploded in france | Aug 27 21:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | though from recent anecdotes, the hardware and software quality appears to have dropped | Aug 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | there were MagUnsafe connectors that melted themselves | Aug 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | etc | Aug 27 21:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | in recent intel gear | Aug 27 21:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | the power adapters are dreadfully under-designed | Aug 27 21:17 |
| MinceR | this is not a recent phenomenon | Aug 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | remember the crApple III? | Aug 27 21:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | i've seen many failures of those adapters. | Aug 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | it melted itself | Aug 27 21:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | the studio macs i was referring to were powerpc, and desktops. | Aug 27 21:18 |
| schestowitz | [21:17] <FurnaceBoy> the power adapters are dreadfully under-designed | Aug 27 21:18 |
| MinceR | users were advised to lift it off the table and drop it to reseat chips | Aug 27 21:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | over various generations | Aug 27 21:18 |
| schestowitz | That's the fault here | Aug 27 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Adapter | Aug 27 21:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Aug 27 21:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've personally seen a number of failures and those of friends | Aug 27 21:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they're *obviously* under-designed from looking at them | Aug 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Good luck to them... | Aug 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: take some Chinese to the roof then | Aug 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | "Make them fear" | Aug 27 21:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | i use a 3rd party one now, as mine died after a few years | Aug 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Shock and awe | Aug 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | the only thing that's designed there is the shiny white toilet seat plastic | Aug 27 21:19 |
| MinceR | even that's designed badly :> | Aug 27 21:20 |
| schestowitz | "Lunattic factory" method | Aug 27 21:20 |
| schestowitz | "Lunatic factory" method | Aug 27 21:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | there's no strain relief and no cooling. | Aug 27 21:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's a lawsuit waiting to happen | Aug 27 21:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | my wife's practically caught fire. a common failure mode is shorting. couldn't be worse | Aug 27 21:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the chinese don't design :) | Aug 27 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Some do | Aug 27 21:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not for Apple | Aug 27 21:23 |
| schestowitz | I have a UK friend who's Chinese and does roadway engineering :-) | Aug 27 21:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's a 'knwoledge worker' job. the agenda is only to offshore the dirtiest work | Aug 27 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i'm referring to apple | Aug 27 21:24 |
| schestowitz | At APple,only the clergy can design | Aug 27 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes! | Aug 27 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | and vanity has caused a serious deisgn issue here. | Aug 27 21:24 |
| *schestowitz loves the 'knwoledge worker' euphemism | Aug 27 21:24 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: oh, i heard that tripe from a co-worker. | Aug 27 21:24 |
| schestowitz | OK, so the Chinese only do "unintelligent" work | Aug 27 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i said, 'you exported all your manufacturing capability, that's why your country is in the shitter' | Aug 27 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and he said, 'americans are too good for manufacturing' | Aug 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Somme push papers 8 hours a day from a skyscrapers | Aug 27 21:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 'we want to recast ourselves as knowledge workers' | Aug 27 21:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Aeron chairs, all that crap | Aug 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 27 21:25 |
| MinceR | knowledge workers without knowledge | Aug 27 21:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: how far do you have to have your head up your^H^H^H in the sand to come out with tripe like that | Aug 27 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Other push toxins 18 hours a day ans just out of skyscrapers (if they can find any) | Aug 27 21:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: invent the toxins, have them made unsafely in foreign countries. sell them everywhere. Dow/Union Carbide/Bhopal | Aug 27 21:26 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: i think you meant ^W^W^W :> | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: 'we want to recast ourselves as knowledge workers' | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: sure | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Need USPTO | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | And WTO | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | WIPO | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: exactly | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a lie | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | TO enforce colonisation | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | And then bribe rich Chinese partners to sign those dealks | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we want to recast the megarich as knowledge owners, and everyone else as serfs. | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | 'On behalf' of the Chinese | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they have a role for poor americans and an uglier role for poorer foreigners. | Aug 27 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a stitchup from bottom to top | Aug 27 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <MinceR> knowledge workers without knowledge | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | To subcontract from China | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Or India | Aug 27 21:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this line was said to me by an heir to such a fortune | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | But the wage goes to Empire State Bdg. | Aug 27 21:27 |
| MinceR | Vampire State Building | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | New to me | Aug 27 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Sucking blood | Aug 27 21:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's what a franchise does | Aug 27 21:28 |
| *schestowitz picture Blankfeiin | Aug 27 21:28 | |
| FurnaceBoy | drains the lifeblood | Aug 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Wage slavery | Aug 27 21:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | discards the dead, polluted husk | Aug 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Did you see the vid I put here this morn? | Aug 27 21:28 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/J9Zfv/ | Aug 27 21:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Wage Slavery is a Symptom of Unfree Markets .::. Size~: 5.26 KB | Aug 27 21:28 |
| *FurnaceBoy has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3) | Aug 27 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | Identica: | Aug 27 23:21 |
| schestowitz | > > RT @ffii Think of the children! http://is.gd/eH0YR next week (when the lies clear) we might learn that wikileaks is linked to Nazis&Alienzzz | Aug 27 23:21 |
| schestowitz | In his case and in the case of Guido Sohne the situation is a bit different. | Aug 27 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WikiLeaks under fire over child abuse files | Herald Sun .::. Size~: 57.65 KB | Aug 27 23:21 |
| schestowitz | ^not me | Aug 27 23:21 |
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