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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Foursquare-Style Checking In For Couch Potatoes http://bit.ly/d5z1u2 | Aug 24 00:01 | |
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| cubevector | before gcc there was pcc | Aug 24 00:01 |
| cubevector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_C_Compiler | Aug 24 00:02 |
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| gnufreex | cubevector: pcc was not free at first. What is the point, I know what BSD is. | Aug 24 00:02 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] A Glimpse of Ubuntu Desktops in the Financial World http://ur1.ca/17u42 #gnu #linux is for real work | Aug 24 00:03 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Madonna Sued For For Selling Clothes Under 'Material Girl' Brand http://dlvr.it/4919M | Aug 24 00:03 | |
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| _Goblin | Right , thats me done for the night.....good night all | Aug 24 00:06 |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Done for tonight. Hopefully I'll have an update on the Windows 7 refund.... !linux !microsoft | Aug 24 00:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] "burn baby burn" neo con nutjobs take aim at WikiLeaks http://bit.ly/cvDCAl | Aug 24 00:11 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Just went on one of those old Mono Ubuntu links, and yeah Mono is really a advantage to Microsoft, since they can spread their programing language out on to another OS as well | Aug 24 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | and today a lot of Educational Establishments are locked into teaching .NET and such | Aug 24 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | well not really today, since a lot of them aren't teaching courses at the moment, but these days sure | Aug 24 00:13 |
| -BNi/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] #Microsoft says "We love Open Source",but not "software freedom". MSFT still thinks sw freedom's an unAmerican,cancerous virus. is.gd/ezuhv | Aug 24 00:13 | |
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| Viper550 | hey | Aug 24 00:16 |
| gnufreex | sebsebseb: Not just that. Mono is advantage to Microsoft because if helps their FUD, that they "invented" Linux and that they "help open source". It is huge advocacy adventige. And when they don't need it anymore, they have a killswitch. They can sue it like Oracle sued Dalvik. They can say Mono is incompatible (Which it is) and lights out. | Aug 24 00:18 |
| gnufreex | *advantage | Aug 24 00:18 |
| -BNi/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ok..One last post... | Aug 24 00:18 | |
| -BNi/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] File-Sharing Lawyers To Face Disciplinary Tribunal http://tinyurl.com/3xnjplb !tpc !acslaw !acsflaw !tbi !copyright | Aug 24 00:18 | |
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| Viper550 | Your site is rather informative, but I found the layout of the news section to be a bit, well, clunky in a way | Aug 24 00:19 |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fabsh @jonobacon Get rid of copyright assignments. | Aug 24 00:23 | |
| -BNi/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @threethirty @jonobacon make sure that they can contribute to whatever part of the Ubuntuverse seems coolest to them #tryfreeingubuntuone | Aug 24 00:23 | |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: well go tell that to the http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk writers maybe :D | Aug 24 00:27 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: they go on about Banshee, and now have some new guy who will | Aug 24 00:27 |
| cubevector | I always wondered if Stallman used BSD to write GNU | Aug 24 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | and the guy who started it, goes on about docky loads | Aug 24 00:27 |
| cubevector | never was clear on that | Aug 24 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | ,but he also only started with Ubuntu in 2007/8 or something | Aug 24 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | just like that humprehybc only started with it in like 2007/8 since Vista | Aug 24 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah reasonably new Ubuntu fan boys | Aug 24 00:28 |
| -BNi/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] What's the deal w/ so many pl on identica starting to use portraits of historical figures as their avatars. @fabsh, this is Bismark's fault! | Aug 24 00:28 | |
| sebsebseb | Mono Mono Mono | Aug 24 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu fan boys love Mono, well apps that are made in it anyway | Aug 24 00:29 |
| gnufreex | ubevector: BSD was propriatary when Stallman wrote GNU. BSD was released only in 1990, and you can credit Stallman for that. He convinced Berkley people. I don't think Stallman wrote GNU on BSD. He used Sun and Digital computers. | Aug 24 00:32 |
| gnufreex | cubevector: BSD was propriatary when Stallman wrote GNU. BSD was released only in 1990, and you can credit Stallman for that. He convinced Berkley people. I don't think Stallman wrote GNU on BSD. He used Sun and Digital computers. | Aug 24 00:32 |
| cubevector | gnufreex, ok thanks for the info | Aug 24 00:32 |
| cubevector | I'm not clear on the early history of GNU | Aug 24 00:33 |
| gnufreex | cubevector: I am not sure about what Stallman exactly used. | Aug 24 00:33 |
| cubevector | gnufreex, so Stallman used computers like Sun3, Sun4? | Aug 24 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: You just put that Stallman didn't write GNU | Aug 24 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: "I don't think Stallman wrote GNU on BSD." | Aug 24 00:34 |
| cubevector | ...on BSD | Aug 24 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: yes I know he meant as a typo probably, but wanted to point out :) | Aug 24 00:34 |
| cubevector | I know he used PDP-11 | Aug 24 00:35 |
| gnufreex | cubevector: There was interview with Jon Maddog Hall on Slashdot. Apparently, Hall tried to donate Digital machines to FSF, but Stallman refused because NDA. | Aug 24 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | PDF-11? | Aug 24 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | NDA? | Aug 24 00:35 |
| sebsebseb | what are those? | Aug 24 00:35 |
| cubevector | DEC PDP-11 | Aug 24 00:35 |
| gnufreex | non disclosure agreement. | Aug 24 00:35 |
| cubevector | a mini-computer | Aug 24 00:35 |
| cubevector | ;-) | Aug 24 00:35 |
| gnufreex | Stallman used PDP-10 at MIT | Aug 24 00:35 |
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| cubevector | surely they had the PDP-11 at the AI lab? | Aug 24 00:39 |
| cubevector | "Stallman had solved a similar problem by opening up the software program that regulated the printer on the lab's PDP-11 machine." | Aug 24 00:39 |
| gnufreex | I have known of the FSF for years. I fought to have free software delivered with Digital's Unix systems since 1984. I have tried to donate equipment to the FSF. Unfortunately for reasons dealing with Richard Stallman's ideals of Free Software, and Digital's inability to create a licensing agreement (in those days) that he could sign, I was limited in what I could do. After a while, it was JUST TOO HARD. | Aug 24 00:41 |
| gnufreex | With the Linux community I have never run into an issue yet that was JUST TOO HARD. Most of the time the people agree with what has to be done, and that their goals and ideals are much the same as mine. | Aug 24 00:41 |
| gnufreex | I will also say that I am REALLY GLAD that Richard Stallman is the way he is, and has the ideals he has, because he continues to show me the path that I SHOULD be going, even though I may only get halfway there. Without his lead, I would have no epitome to reach. | Aug 24 00:41 |
| gnufreex | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/00/01/01/139238/Interview-a-New-Linux-Year-with-Jon-maddog-Hall | Aug 24 00:41 |
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| gnufreex | Interesting read. | Aug 24 00:41 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 23/8/2010: GNU/Linux in the Financial World, Linux 2.6.36 RC2, Gnash 0.8.8 Released http://ur1.ca/17uek #techrights | Aug 24 00:43 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 23/8/2010: GNU/Linux in the Financial World, Linux 2.6.36 RC2, Gnash 0.8.8 Released http://ur1.ca/17uek !techrights | Aug 24 00:43 | |
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| gnufreex | Back to Mono topic sebsebseb: I know that Ubuntu fanboys love Mono. Mono advocacy on Ubuntu forums is strong, there are few people who promote it strongly and they are in favour of mods. | Aug 24 00:45 |
| schestowitz | They need mods for the mod | Aug 24 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: What do you mean mods? | Aug 24 00:47 |
| gnufreex | moderators | Aug 24 00:47 |
| cubevector | wow, there was APL for TOPS-10 | Aug 24 00:47 |
| cubevector | yeah I don't get the whole Ubuntu thing | Aug 24 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu Forums well I don't know much about it | Aug 24 00:48 |
| cubevector | tried it once, didn't really like it | Aug 24 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | since I don't have an account | Aug 24 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but #ubuntu | Aug 24 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | is bad enough really | Aug 24 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | at times | Aug 24 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | with the dictating on how support should and shoudn't be done, and such | Aug 24 00:48 |
| *sebsebseb might have gone a bit insane or not quite | Aug 24 00:49 | |
| *sebsebseb thought about trying | Aug 24 00:49 | |
| sebsebseb | I meann getting someone not that technical to try Gnome 3 preview in Mandriva, when I help him put Mandriva on instead | Aug 24 00:49 |
| cubevector | year 2000 interview, lots has changed since then | Aug 24 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | he wnats to get away from Ubuntu 9.04 soon | Aug 24 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | well he just needs something realy basic really, and thats what Gnome 3 preview is at the moment | Aug 24 00:50 |
| gnufreex | If Zitegist really depends on Mono, I am switching to KDE. | Aug 24 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: Zitegest has not been accepted by upstream Gnome | Aug 24 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: also as far as I know it won't exactly be compatible with Gnome 3 | Aug 24 00:51 |
| cubevector | gnufreex, I use retro KDE myself | Aug 24 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | whats retreo KDE? | Aug 24 00:51 |
| cubevector | just old KDE :) | Aug 24 00:51 |
| cubevector | 3.5.10 and 3.4.2 | Aug 24 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | oh the old KDE | Aug 24 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | that isn't exactly made anymore | Aug 24 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | altough yeah KDE 3 is better than KDE 4 most of the time, I guess | Aug 24 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | really | Aug 24 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | for end users | Aug 24 00:52 |
| gnufreex | I like KDE 4 | Aug 24 00:52 |
| cubevector | there's project trinity | Aug 24 00:53 |
| gnufreex | But couldn't use it more than few days | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 4 and 3 really, but not as bad | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | is this bloated thing | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | that looks like WIndows by default, but a bit better | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | and is quite geek to customize | Aug 24 00:53 |
| cubevector | I also run icewm | Aug 24 00:53 |
| gnufreex | If they make it less buggy, it will be perfect thing. | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: hrm thats an idea maybe icevm or something like that | Aug 24 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: for this not so technical complainer guy I mean | Aug 24 00:54 |
| cubevector | sebsebseb, it's good, I even run it on 486 | Aug 24 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | I mean if I get him using Mandriva, he might start moaning about something Mandriva instead, uh | Aug 24 00:54 |
| cubevector | oh well let him try vector then | Aug 24 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | also I think get him using Empathy this time round, since he has has had some isues with Pdgin | Aug 24 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: no its someone who needs his hand held nearly all the way, and trust me, most people woudn't help this guy | Aug 24 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | however since I helped him quite a lot before, I kind of have to again | Aug 24 00:55 |
| cubevector | ha, Maddog mentions Xerox Star | Aug 24 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: and I won't get any money for helping this guy either | Aug 24 00:56 |
| cubevector | hmmm | Aug 24 00:56 |
| cubevector | well that's very generous of you | Aug 24 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: sure, but I mean he can't pay | Aug 24 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | he has money problems | Aug 24 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | if he didn't have that then, he probably would probably want to pay something | Aug 24 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: and its only a guy from the net, which makes things a bit more interseting, but also more difficult | Aug 24 00:57 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Court Rules Against Stem Cell Policy http://bit.ly/aHofQL | Aug 24 00:58 | |
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| cubevector | I ran twm for a while but really I had to go back to KDE :) | Aug 24 00:58 |
| gnufreex | Maddog is great. I think he is lot like Simon Phipps. When propriatary megacorp wrecks your company, you start to see pragamtism in RMS's teachings. cubevector | Aug 24 00:58 |
| cubevector | you want lean and mean, go with icewm | Aug 24 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | I think KDE would be to bloated for this guy | Aug 24 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | really | Aug 24 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | maybe a light waight vm, xfce, .xde, icevm maybe or something | Aug 24 00:58 |
| cubevector | sebsebseb, what's he got for computer? | Aug 24 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: a computer that is actsauly quite a bit to powerful for his actsaul useage, because I recommended the type of computer to buy, and | Aug 24 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | well before I knew that he would only be using it for basic stuff | Aug 24 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah 4GB RAM and 64bit is a bit over kill | Aug 24 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | as I belive the word is | Aug 24 00:59 |
| cubevector | I run old KDE on p3 with 320 megs :) | Aug 24 01:00 |
| gnufreex | Maddog and Phipps both dodn't like that Free software thingie at firs. now they like it and preach it. After the aquistion, they saw RMS is right. | Aug 24 01:00 |
| cubevector | yeah he usually is | Aug 24 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: his computer is quite a lot more powerful than mine | Aug 24 01:00 |
| cubevector | he's thinking way ahead of most people | Aug 24 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: in fact his computer would be pretty sweet to have, by the sounds of it | Aug 24 01:00 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] [CORRECTED LINK] A Glimpse of Ubuntu Desktops in the Financial World http://ur1.ca/17uhn #gnu #linux is for real work | Aug 24 01:01 | |
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| cubevector | sebsebseb, I'm working on a new computer in Sept | Aug 24 01:01 |
| cubevector | but in this case, new will be old :) | Aug 24 01:01 |
| *sebsebseb is saving up for a Mac, oh right yeah I don't need to, I can buy one whenever I feel like it, and be locked into OS X, but hey it's Apple, and they are amazing :D | Aug 24 01:02 | |
| gnufreex | Bye, I have to go. | Aug 24 01:02 |
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| sebsebseb | three popular OS's, Windows, Linux distros, and Mac OS X | Aug 24 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | I mean | Aug 24 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | 1. Windows since computer ignorance and vender lock in | Aug 24 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | 2. Mac OS X since computer ignorance and vender lock in, and Apple hype | Aug 24 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | 3. and Linux distros in 3rd place, since their are people who actsaully know about computers as well | Aug 24 01:03 |
| -BNi/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz [CORRECTED LINK] A Glimpse of Ubuntu Desktops in the Financial World http://ur1.ca/17uhn !gnu !linux is for real work | Aug 24 01:03 | |
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| sebsebseb | anyway number 2 is the one I lack expereince with | Aug 24 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | so have thought about maybe buying a Mac before, since they look good, but then its like nah | Aug 24 01:04 |
| cubevector | I never touch Apple | Aug 24 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | I get the proper advantages with a Linux distro anyway | Aug 24 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | or I could do BSD | Aug 24 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah above when I say Apple was amazing, was a joke, as I hope people picked up | Aug 24 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: Two people who were quite into Linux, have both got a Mac | Aug 24 01:05 |
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| sebsebseb | cubevector: one of which I used to go to school with and that was a few years ago, and another is someone from the net | Aug 24 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | and that was quite recently | Aug 24 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | and that person got it since consitency, and some tech reasons | Aug 24 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | cubevector: You never touch Apple, oh yeah? Surely you have used at some stage? | Aug 24 01:07 |
| cubevector | nope | Aug 24 01:07 |
| cubevector | not even Apple II | Aug 24 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | Why not? | Aug 24 01:07 |
| cubevector | in the old days I used Commodore PET, and stuck with commodore computers until about 1994 | Aug 24 01:08 |
| cubevector | then I got into Linux on PC hardware | Aug 24 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Aug 24 01:08 |
| sebsebseb | So what you think of Apple? | Aug 24 01:08 |
| cubevector | used Xenix, Unix System V, BSD, Linux | Aug 24 01:08 |
| cubevector | well I don't like their products | Aug 24 01:09 |
| cubevector | don't like Jobs either :) | Aug 24 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | Why not? | Aug 24 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | to both | Aug 24 01:09 |
| cubevector | very closed proprietary software, undocumented hardware, over-priced | Aug 24 01:10 |
| cubevector | Jobs used Woz to enrich himself | Aug 24 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | whats Woz? | Aug 24 01:10 |
| cubevector | very manipulative person | Aug 24 01:10 |
| cubevector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak | Aug 24 01:10 |
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| cubevector | co-founder of Apple | Aug 24 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | well most of the wold has capitlism and consumerism | Aug 24 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | and so sadly | Aug 24 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | useualy propritary software is the most used | Aug 24 01:11 |
| sebsebseb | and in general people are so thick, when it comes to this kind of stuff | Aug 24 01:12 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Insider's View: How Grandstanding State Attorneys General Make Life Miserable For Law Abiding Tech Companies http://dlvr.it/498Nr | Aug 24 01:20 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @velofille: woot! Android on your iPhone! thats wicked cool! http://iphodroid.com/ | Aug 24 02:25 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @storming: Will you be at Grace Hopper? Are you willing to help out at the Free Software Projects booth? Or can you send goodies 2 share? | Aug 24 02:25 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The worst part of proprietary platforms: the vendor. http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/revmobile-and-apples-iphone-sdk-agreement | Aug 24 02:49 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Building on proprietary platforms is like asking to be beheaded. http://tinyurl.com/23u5kd7 | Aug 24 02:58 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ..."It isn't a learning experience if you can't make a mistake"~David Gerrold !q ... I have learned from some doozies... gotta fix keyboad | Aug 24 03:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Scott Adams On the Difficulty of Building a 'Green' Home http://bit.ly/aCDZ4k | Aug 24 03:25 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Facebook / LinkedIn users: time to change your privacy settings: http://is.gd/ezYIo /via @timbray | Aug 24 04:33 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] My new blog: Revisiting Ethos - why are *you* involved? http://is.gd/ezZTk #community | Aug 24 04:43 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] The Strange Case of Solar Flares and Radioactive Decay Rates http://bit.ly/9VcCVe | Aug 24 05:26 | |
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| -BNi/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz Stockholm chief prosecutor quashes arrest warrant for #Wikileaks editor-in-chief http://ur1.ca/17why #smear #sweden | Aug 24 06:03 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000003435 | Aug 24 06:12 |
| -BNi/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Embarrassed government arrests Hari Prasad http://ur1.ca/17wn5 | Aug 24 06:23 | |
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| jono | :) | Aug 24 06:35 |
| schestowitz | ryan is banned | Aug 24 06:36 |
| schestowitz | That has something to do with why we moved to this channel 2 nights ago | Aug 24 06:36 |
| jono | schestowitz he is banned? | Aug 24 06:39 |
| jono | why? | Aug 24 06:39 |
| schestowitz | He upset people here by trolling and then cursing | Aug 24 06:39 |
| jono | he is still showing up in #boycottnovell? | Aug 24 06:40 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@ppp-69-215* | Aug 24 06:45 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on DaemonFC!*@* | Aug 24 06:45 | |
| MinceR | here we go again | Aug 24 06:46 |
| schestowitz | Nice photos: http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/10-beautiful-wallpapers-for-ubuntu-1010.html | Aug 24 06:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://insidesocal.com/click/2010/08/want-to-know-what-the-canonica.html | Aug 24 06:54 |
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| MinceR | 070956 < raatti> "A priest, a pedophile, and a rapist walk into a bar. He orders a drink." | Aug 24 06:54 |
| schestowitz | *walks | Aug 24 06:56 |
| *schestowitz listens to pop from Ukraine | Aug 24 06:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-confirms-WebOS-tablet-for-2011/?kc=rss | Aug 24 07:03 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... Twitfolk can't seem to hook up with twitter | Aug 24 07:03 |
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| MinceR | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/steve-jobs-watching-you-apple-seeking-patent-0 | Aug 24 07:14 |
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| schestowitz | "Traitorware" | Aug 24 07:15 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't the poor sod pocket enough from people buying the overprice FOxconn gadget? | Aug 24 07:16 |
| schestowitz | It's like a church where you curse someone for filling up a pew without praying | Aug 24 07:16 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] A chimp, a man, and a mental patient step up on stage. He gives a presentation about Vista 7. | Aug 24 07:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] 'Leap Seconds' May Be Eliminated From UTC http://bit.ly/9v2S6L | Aug 24 07:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Proof #SCO Knew #IBM Was Involved in #Linux From 1998 Onward http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100823124538345 | Aug 24 07:28 | |
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| MinceR | nice one about SweatyB | Aug 24 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Twitter messed up | Aug 24 07:30 |
| schestowitz | Lag/timeouts | Aug 24 07:30 |
| schestowitz | it missed: | Aug 24 07:30 |
| schestowitz | 'Is it time to go with Linux? http://ur1.ca/17wgv "Linux is ready for prime time and here are three reasons why."' | Aug 24 07:30 |
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| schestowitz | '"Red Hat (NYSE: RHT) rallied more than 1% on Monday on renewed speculation that the software company may be acquired by SAP." #redhat' | Aug 24 07:30 |
| schestowitz | '"Red Hat is number 22 on the Takeover Target List at StreetInsider.com's Merger Central" http://ur1.ca/17wnj #redhat' | Aug 24 07:31 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: better to use past tense | Aug 24 07:31 |
| schestowitz | s/step/stepped/ | Aug 24 07:31 |
| schestowitz | Can refer to singular and plural alike | Aug 24 07:32 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 24 07:33 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/xpSpY/ | Aug 24 07:44 |
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| schestowitz | Eww... TED is now putting a criminal in its opening segment in videos | Aug 24 07:50 |
| MinceR | someone said m$ bought TED | Aug 24 07:50 |
| MinceR | which criminal is it? | Aug 24 07:51 |
| schestowitz | BillG | Aug 24 07:51 |
| schestowitz | "The one with all the money" (and patent agenda) | Aug 24 07:52 |
| schestowitz | He is paying TED now | Aug 24 07:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: Many #Android Tablets, #OpenSolaris Board Disbands http://ur1.ca/17xa0 #tablets !techrights | Aug 24 07:52 | |
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| schestowitz | So that they bring it to his Turf | Aug 24 07:52 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 24 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Don't make fun of him... make TED upset | Aug 24 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Father Ted :-) | Aug 24 07:53 |
| MinceR | if TED advertises him, they deserve to be made fun of and upset | Aug 24 07:53 |
| schestowitz | BillG is everyone's father... feeding us with Monsanto. We'll just have debt to him | Aug 24 07:53 |
| schestowitz | TO be paid back to Monsanta, which he's a shareholder of | Aug 24 07:53 |
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| schestowitz | TED: rich men's ego-stroking in recent years. Anyway, TED was attacked for its agenda last year too, for other reasons | Aug 24 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Now it has a SUgar Daddy, it needn't have more sympathy | Aug 24 07:55 |
| schestowitz | It's PJ who loves linking to TED vids | Aug 24 07:55 |
| schestowitz | Fora is still good though | Aug 24 07:55 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't seem to be 'up for sale' at the right price, yet | Aug 24 07:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/user/ForaTv | Aug 24 07:56 |
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| MinceR | what's PJ's stance on the gate$ foundation? | Aug 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz | She doesn't talk much about it | Aug 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz | But she's cynical about it | Aug 24 07:57 |
| schestowitz | She's not a Gates FOundamentalist | Aug 24 07:58 |
| MinceR | foundamentalist :) | Aug 24 07:58 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 posts about him to do today (if I find the time) | Aug 24 07:59 |
| schestowitz | He really turned nasty on schools | Aug 24 07:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Migrating a Small Accounting Office to GNU/Linux http://is.gd/eAh88 !gnu !linux !freesoftware !open | Aug 24 08:17 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/dumping-windows-moving-on-with-linux-update-10018341/ Start of the negitive talk about Ubuntu and showing another Linux as good. | Aug 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dumping Windows, moving on with Linux, update | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 40.38 KB | Aug 24 08:21 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if we are just at the start of another main distribution swap. | Aug 24 08:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: North Korea Linux (Red Star OS) http://bit.ly/cTHwZs #linux | Aug 24 08:22 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe | Aug 24 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Fedora or Mint | Aug 24 08:24 |
| oiaohm | Fedora is going to get intereting since its going to be the first with systemd | Aug 24 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 24 08:26 |
| oiaohm | cgroups used everyone could add some interesting features. | Aug 24 08:26 |
| oiaohm | everyone/everywhere | Aug 24 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tamasrepus: OpenSSH 5.6 released http://ur1.ca/17vjm !Linux !gnu !freesoftware | Aug 24 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @valessiobrito: Lançado o !Inkscape 0.48 !!! Agora é oficial! http://wiki.softwarelivre.org/InkscapeBrasil/Download | Aug 24 08:27 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: Many #Android Tablets, #OpenSolaris Board Disbands http://ur1.ca/17xa0 #tablets #techrights | Aug 24 08:28 | |
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| oiaohm | I don't know of this is a good thing. One of the things systemd also brings is the possiblity of a Linux without a command line. | Aug 24 08:31 |
| oiaohm | Since the boot process will no longer depend on shell script. | Aug 24 08:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Inkscape 0.48 was released http://inkscape.org/ !inkscape !gnu !linux !freesoftware | Aug 24 08:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] If only these chaps spend time in Europe and Asia! The US cellphone business model is so ancient! http://ur1.ca/17xl2 #fb | Aug 24 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @scislac: !Inkscape 0.48 is out! Official Links: Windows: http://bit.ly/ink048w OSX: http://bit.ly/ink048m Others: http://bit.ly/ink048o | Aug 24 08:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: 11 Biggest Open Source Success Stories That is Changing The World As We Know It http://bit.ly/9143v8 #linux #gnu | Aug 24 08:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and #Apple Use #IntellectualMonopolies to Stifle Competition, Still http://ur1.ca/17xnc #swpats #datel | Aug 24 08:40 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Co-op Neverwinter RPG Announced For 2011 http://bit.ly/9yRyfg | Aug 24 08:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @tamasrepus: OpenSSH 5.6 released http://ur1.ca/17vjm #Linux #gnu #freesoftware | Aug 24 08:46 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @rsandu Inkscape 0.48 was released http://inkscape.org/ #inkscape #gnu #linux #freesoftware | Aug 24 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Dell Streak la eMag.ro http://is.gd/eAjDj http://is.gd/eAjIl !dell !romania !android | Aug 24 08:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft and #Apple Use #IntellectualMonopolies to Stifle Competition, Still http://ur1.ca/17xnc #swpats #datel | Aug 24 08:52 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Aug 24 09:27 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Google Shoots Itself in the Foot by Patenting Software http://bit.ly/dlZAIc #google #swpats #Java | Aug 24 09:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] #OOXML Paoli loves open source and interoperability http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082310-microsoft-open-source.html?hpg1=bn | Aug 24 09:40 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] UK Defense Secretary Calls For Retailers To Ban Upcoming Medal Of Honor Game http://dlvr.it/49yRy | Aug 24 10:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Interoperability via patent tax? | Aug 24 10:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Nokia Siemens Sued For Providing Monitoring Equipment To Iran http://bit.ly/dmaKQc | Aug 24 10:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Das deutsche Steuerrecht in einem Satz "Wer hat dem wird gegeben" - http://is.gd/eArtC | Aug 24 10:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Körperschaftssteure -79%, Vermögensabgabe -100%, Lohnsteuer +301% - Deutsche Steuern. http://is.gd/eAsC5 - #wut #ohnmacht | Aug 24 10:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rixstepnews/statuses/21976404109 "@schestowitz This is old news. #Assange #Ardin #PeacePrize #WikiLeaks" | Aug 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rixstepnews/statuses/21976614246 "NO. This is NOT TRUE. DO THE RESEARCH. #Assange #Ardin #PeacePrize #WikiLeaks" | Aug 24 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | Weird. I know it's bogus, that's why I posted a clarifications about attempts to frame him. | Aug 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.i4u.com/38221/best-buy-making-tablets-focus | Aug 24 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | Twitter seems semi-broken today | Aug 24 11:07 |
| schestowitz | API not giving input | Aug 24 11:07 |
| schestowitz | 'Patent Trolls Still Rejoice and David Kappos is Change We Can't Believe in http://ur1.ca/17yfn #uspto #swpats #patents' | Aug 24 11:13 |
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| schestowitz | 'Microsoft: ‘We love [subverting the definition of] open source’ http://ur1.ca/17yqv The latest spin from “OOXML Paoli” [via @ffii ]' | Aug 24 11:14 |
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| schestowitz | I like the video | Aug 24 11:14 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Aug 24 11:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Microsoft: ‘We love [subverting the definition of] open source’ http://ur1.ca/17yqv The latest spin from “OOXML Paoli” | Aug 24 11:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tina230993: please visit http://www.digitalproductphotography.net/ | Aug 24 11:27 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[tracyrreed] I scored 27242976 (816 kills, $33386 spent) on Loops in #canvastd http://10k.aneventapart.com/Uploads/155/ | Aug 24 11:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] First harmonisation of patent law, then a patent court #eu #stepbystep | Aug 24 11:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Microsoft: ‘We love [subverting the definition of] open source’ http://ur1.ca/17yqv The latest spin from “OOXML Paoli” [via @ffii ] | Aug 24 11:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Had the pleasure of a chat with Danny Shine today. What a nice chap. | Aug 24 11:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Hahaha. Pentagon v. Wikileaks - Rap News http://bit.ly/aj1Fnz | Aug 24 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] SAP / Red Hat Global Alliance http://is.gd/eAwRW !redhat !sap | Aug 24 11:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #Facebook dissolving? I notice comments that never show up, pictures uploaded disappear, am I alone? | Aug 24 11:41 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Inside story on WikiLeaks (video) | Al Jazeera http://bit.ly/b2TVTh | Aug 24 12:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Once Again, How Does DRM Benefit Anyone? http://dlvr.it/4B8Vl | Aug 24 12:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @paulcarr Calling yourself an "SEO ninja" is the new "My other car is the Batmobile" | Aug 24 12:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @fabsh @jonobacon Get rid of copyright assignments. | yep, Fedora can help. | Aug 24 12:28 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] He is so mean to me, said the bully. RT I raise questions and voice partial disagreement, but one of them calls me names like "#troll" | Aug 24 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] 33000+ entries on !TinyOgg. | Aug 24 12:37 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii First harmonisation of patent law, then a patent court #eu #stepbystep | Aug 24 12:41 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Sweden to investigate rape allegations http://bit.ly/dpD1X5 | Aug 24 12:43 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @osamak 33000+ entries on #TinyOgg. > thanks for the service! | Aug 24 12:44 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Sweden to investigate rape allegations http://bit.ly/dpD1X5 "...urged to investigate if an employee had colluded to smear" | Aug 24 12:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @handheldcar Anybody read this creepy news? http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/steve-jobs-watching-you-apple-seeking-patent-0 !eff | Aug 24 12:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs Is Watching You: Apple Seeking to Patent Spyware | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.69 KB | Aug 24 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Without knowing the circumstances, since Julian knew the girls, maybe they were Delilah-type infiltrators (he said they had some attempts) Without knowing the circumstances about Hurd and Fischer, it's possible that someone inside/outside HP set him up. | Aug 24 13:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Had #waketime issues for whole month. OTOH, you'll probably tell me starting work at 08:00 is reasonable, but 06:00 is gold standard, IMO. | Aug 24 13:12 | |
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| gnufreex | Disaster: http://localtechwire.com/business/local_tech_wire/opinion/blogpost/8180415/ | Aug 24 13:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat takeover talk heats up ahead of press conference :: The Skinny at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 20.25 KB | Aug 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Oh dear, so it's true.. | Aug 24 13:26 |
| gnufreex | I hope it is not true | Aug 24 13:26 |
| gnufreex | But if SAP buys Red Hat, that is worse tan Oracle buying Sun. | Aug 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | SAP is with Novell | Aug 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft | Aug 24 13:27 |
| gnufreex | Then Microsoft fanboys will say: Open source don't scale, it can't suced | Aug 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | But I think Red Hat can't say "no" for shareholder if this Microsoft ally wants to wipe Red Hat | Aug 24 13:27 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Without knowing the circumstances, since Julian knew the girls, maybe they were Delilah-type infilitrators (he said they had some attempts) | Aug 24 13:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Without knowing the circumstances about Hurd and Fischer, it's possible that someone inside/outside HP set him up. | Aug 24 13:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Windows DLL Vulnerability Exploit In the Wild http://bit.ly/a4SEr2 | Aug 24 13:28 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Shall we check patents before writing code? http://k.lenz.name/LB/?p=216 | Aug 24 13:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Windows DLL Vulnerability Exploit In the Wild .::. Size~: 55.36 KB | Aug 24 13:28 |
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| MinceR | Free Software and GNU/Linux can still survive and thrive | Aug 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat also has patents | Aug 24 13:28 |
| MinceR | there's just one lesson to learn: don't trust companies too much, don't become reliant on them. | Aug 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Which of course it calls "defensive" | Aug 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Some of them can be used against FOSS | Aug 24 13:28 |
| MinceR | don't you mean they have "Computer-Implemented Inventions"? :> | Aug 24 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Mostly from companies it aquired. | Aug 24 13:28 |
| gnufreex | Yes, it can survive but nobody will used it. Red Hat was only who marketed free software for entrprise. Bussines peole wont use debian | Aug 24 13:29 |
| MinceR | then others will spring up to market debian to business people. | Aug 24 13:29 |
| gnufreex | Who, Canonical? | Aug 24 13:29 |
| MinceR | remember, GNU/Linux got where it is now without any big companies supporting it. | Aug 24 13:29 |
| MinceR | no, some new player | Aug 24 13:29 |
| oiaohm | Redhat is on cutting edge Linux techs. | Aug 24 13:30 |
| MinceR | the techs and the people who develop them will continue to exist. | Aug 24 13:30 |
| gnufreex | Look how things are right now: Sun failed, because their harware legacy, but it is blamed on open source. REd Hat is succes, but if it get bought ,it wll be marke as open source failure. Novell will go dow too. So that is enough FUD to brand open source as failure. | Aug 24 13:31 |
| MinceR | is it? | Aug 24 13:31 |
| MinceR | and is the "open source" brand important for free software in the long run? | Aug 24 13:32 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: For Microsoft loving majority, it is. | Aug 24 13:32 |
| MinceR | i doubt that the majority _loves_ m$ | Aug 24 13:32 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: It is enough to set of negative network effect. | Aug 24 13:32 |
| MinceR | being forced into using it (without even knowing it) is not the same as "loving" | Aug 24 13:32 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: Well, nobody loves MIcrosoft, I meant bussines world. They listen to their crap. | Aug 24 13:33 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #RedHat takeover talk heats up ahead of press conference http://ur1.ca/180yq remember: no such thing as "defensive patents" | Aug 24 13:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat takeover talk heats up ahead of press conference :: The Skinny at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 20.25 KB | Aug 24 13:33 |
| MinceR | imo GNU and Linux are too valuable to just throw away because some companies get bought up or taken over | Aug 24 13:33 |
| MinceR | for example, it isn't being put into mobile devices because of RH or novell or especially oracle | Aug 24 13:34 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: It wont be trown away, but it will stop migration. And in time, new owners of open source companies will screw credibility of open source. Like Oracle is doing now. | Aug 24 13:34 |
| MinceR | we'll see | Aug 24 13:35 |
| MinceR | i think oracle is only screwing the credibility of java | Aug 24 13:35 |
| MinceR | and SlowLarry's | Aug 24 13:35 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] The BBC Corp, yet again acting like a profit making corp, and being funded by an extortion tax to do it http://bbc.in/bk5COQ | Aug 24 13:36 | |
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| schestowitz | I've just told jwildeboer, "I hope the SAP rumours are false" | Aug 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | It was gonna be ORCL | Aug 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | But it bought Sun | Aug 24 13:37 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: If peole look for facts, they would see that Oracle don't screw credibility of even Java. They are suing dalvik. And they will also see that OpenSOlaris was not open source. But the thing is, people don't care about facts. If someone big spins Sun failure as failure of open source, people will accept that. | Aug 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | So IBM is likely one of the few companies Red Hat can sell to | Aug 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Although IBM uses SLES a lot | Aug 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:31] <gnufreex> Look how things are right now: Sun failed, because their harware legacy, but it is blamed on open source. REd Hat is succes, but if it get bought ,it wll be marke as open source failure. Novell will go dow too. So that is enough FUD to brand open source as failure. | Aug 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | What about Apache? | Aug 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | It's the joining of many companies for self interest... collaboration | Aug 24 13:38 |
| gnufreex | What about Apache? | Aug 24 13:38 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: FS has already survived a lot of hostile spin | Aug 24 13:38 |
| MinceR | and yes, Apache and Firefox are both FS and successful | Aug 24 13:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @privacylawyer: Elizabeth Denham says federal Privacy Commissioner may need greater enforcement powers http://bit.ly/b77Tvh | Aug 24 13:39 | |
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| gnufreex | Well firefox and Apache are. But this will weaken the open source story | Aug 24 13:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] SlowLarry's is the new name for Solaris | Aug 24 13:40 | |
| MinceR | i didn't know OpenSlowLarry's was not open source (but that's probably because i never cared much about SlowLarry's) | Aug 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: and not run by shqareholders | Aug 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Foundations rather | Aug 24 13:41 |
| MinceR | same with Linux itself | Aug 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: CDDL | Aug 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Cooper designed it deliberately to be GPL incompatible, IIRC | Aug 24 13:42 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] How many more Apple devs need to be shafted before people get it 'Apple don't want you or your work' http://bbc.in/aKU4wI | Aug 24 13:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC - See Also: Tech Brief .::. Size~: 37.61 KB | Aug 24 13:42 |
| MinceR | Debian is run by a non-profit, too (SPI) | Aug 24 13:42 |
| MinceR | (afaict) | Aug 24 13:42 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Not just CDDL, OpenSolaris had propriatary parts. Like for example libc, fishworks, compiler. You have to use Sun compiler to compiler OpenSolaris | Aug 24 13:43 |
| MinceR | yes, i know sun always was hostile to GPL and GNU/Linux | Aug 24 13:43 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: If you use GCC, it wont be binary compatible. | Aug 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sun.com/cddl/ | Aug 24 13:43 |
| MinceR | and sun's compiler was nonfree and nonopen, right? | Aug 24 13:43 |
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| gnufreex | And blobs wont work | Aug 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | They didn't retire the sun domain | Aug 24 13:43 |
| MinceR | they can't afford to retire the sun domain | Aug 24 13:43 |
| MinceR | until they kill java | Aug 24 13:43 |
| MinceR | java uses it in namespaces | Aug 24 13:43 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: Sun compiler was freeware at one point (closed source but free of charge) | Aug 24 13:44 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 24 13:44 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: But now Oracle will jack up the price | Aug 24 13:44 |
| MinceR | sucks to be a client of oracle | Aug 24 13:44 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Better link to the previous post, I note that the BBC have their own shortening URL, great use of tax payers cash huh? http://bit.ly/c8k1aW | Aug 24 13:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Version 2.2 Rejected New Rejection Reason From Apple May Have Major Implications « Read It Later Blog .::. Size~: 12.43 KB | Aug 24 13:45 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: Oracle can't kill java. OpenJDK is GPL | Aug 24 13:45 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: That is kind of FUD I am talking about | Aug 24 13:45 |
| MinceR | they might still marginalize it | Aug 24 13:45 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: That is harmful. | Aug 24 13:45 |
| MinceR | or take the brand away | Aug 24 13:45 |
| gnufreex | Who cares about the brand | Aug 24 13:46 |
| gnufreex | We will call it James | Aug 24 13:46 |
| MinceR | control over development and brand still are important | Aug 24 13:46 |
| MinceR | Bond? | Aug 24 13:46 |
| gnufreex | Gosling | Aug 24 13:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 24 13:46 |
| MinceR | (indeed, one of my issues with mono/.net is that m$ controls the API and they're known to use such control to attack) | Aug 24 13:47 |
| gnufreex | Nobody used name Java in marketing, it was Sun property anyways. | Aug 24 13:47 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] ReadItLater was approved today, a mistake? Or a PR reaction to it hitting the media? | Aug 24 13:47 | |
| gnufreex | it is JBoss, not JavaBoss | Aug 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/08/23/and-yet-it-moves-available-on-wiiware-today/ | Aug 24 13:52 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Intel-and-Nokia-open-first-joint-research-lab-1064372.html | Aug 24 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | Twitter API is a mess today. It drops many items which can't be delivered | Aug 24 13:53 |
| oiaohm | My issue with mono is Microsoft track record of doing submerine patents. gnufreex | Aug 24 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Remember Fat long filenames. | Aug 24 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Like FAT | Aug 24 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Beat you to it.. | Aug 24 13:53 |
| oiaohm | And there a long list of other cases with MS as well. | Aug 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Aug 24 13:54 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft is not a company you can trust. | Aug 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Well, from here it seems like I beat you to it, not on the logger | Aug 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz | We thought the same anyway | Aug 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I trust Microsoft... to betray partners | Aug 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "Freedom from pr0n" | Aug 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | --Jobs | Aug 24 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Oracle on the other hand. If you have your i dotted and you t crossed. | Aug 24 13:55 |
| oiaohm | They will leave you alone. | Aug 24 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Even if you are not fully up to what they want. Ie if you show you are working in the right direction. | Aug 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you reckon RHT might sell? | Aug 24 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Why would they sell to a Microsoft partner from EUROPE/ | Aug 24 13:56 |
| oiaohm | RHT unlikely. | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | It makes little sense, it's just a rumour | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I saw it ysterday | Aug 24 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Not to that company at least. | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: the SAP thing came up a day ago, lifted the stock just 1% | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat was said to be picked up since 2006 | Aug 24 13:56 |
| gnufreex | <oiaohm> My issue with mono is Microsoft track record of doing submerine patents. gnufreex | Aug 24 13:56 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, that is one of my issues with Mono. Why are we talking about mono? | Aug 24 13:56 |
| oiaohm | If it was IBM buying them I would say yep it could be a going operation. | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Heather from UBS or something | Aug 24 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Egbert | Aug 24 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Katherine actually | Aug 24 13:57 |
| schestowitz | First Oracle, then IBM, then nothing | Aug 24 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Really at this stage it makes no sence for software companies to buy software companies. | Aug 24 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they use it as FUD assault | Aug 24 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Ie software aquire hardware company or hardware company aquire software company. | Aug 24 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Makes sence in current market. | Aug 24 13:57 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/katherine-egbert-wrong-again/ | Aug 24 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | SAP uses SLES a lot | Aug 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | For Microsoft patent tax | Aug 24 13:58 |
| gnufreex | <schestowitz> First Oracle, then IBM, then nothing | Aug 24 13:58 |
| gnufreex | It was even Microsoft at one point. But now there is anti - open source momentum, so I am kinda scared. | Aug 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | They signed a SAP deal ages ago | Aug 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | And they have a perm-page | Aug 24 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Personally I don't think RHT is a idiot. | Aug 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | But SAP doesn't deploy on RHT much anymore | Aug 24 13:58 |
| oiaohm | What would SAP really bring to RHT | Aug 24 13:58 |
| oiaohm | Other than trouble. | Aug 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's SweatyB wants them to use Ballnux | Aug 24 13:58 |
| oiaohm | SAP aquiring Novell would not shock me. | Aug 24 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft could use SAP to eliminate Red Hat, if RHT is not being smart | Aug 24 13:59 |
| oiaohm | And yes that would make more sence. | Aug 24 13:59 |
| gnufreex | I would like Red Hat to aquire Novell and fire De Icaza | Aug 24 13:59 |
| schestowitz | And IBM would not let it happen | Aug 24 13:59 |
| schestowitz | IBM made a mistake by letting ORCL have Java and OOO (for Lotus Symphony) | Aug 24 13:59 |
| oiaohm | IBM or HP would attempt to out bid who ever tryed to aquire Redhat | Aug 24 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Both see Redhat as a key company. | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: maybe the SUSE part | Aug 24 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Both out source work to redhat. | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | de Icaza will be scooped up by SweatyB & Team if that happens | Aug 24 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Really who outsources work to Novell | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | So it's not productive | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Novell gave ACS biz | Aug 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Outsourcing | Aug 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/08/23/servers-slow-down-as-data-center-heats-up/ | Aug 24 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | The Mono trolls are very busy these days smearing opposition | Aug 24 14:01 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Red Hat could have interest in PlateSpin and eDirectory. And Mono. They could buy Mono to shut up mono propaganda and maybe control development. Or donate Mono to FSF. That would scare away De Icaza folowers | Aug 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Just so that you're aware... | Aug 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | They attack me a lot this week | Aug 24 14:02 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: not really | Aug 24 14:02 |
| oiaohm | eDirectory has no interest to Redhat. | Aug 24 14:02 |
| oiaohm | They have Fedora LDAP instead. | Aug 24 14:03 |
| gnufreex | eDirectory is better. | Aug 24 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Miguel is now a toilet cleaner at Novell: http://abock.org/2010/08/06/real-american-heroes-toilet-trouble | Aug 24 14:03 |
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| gnufreex | Red Hat is doing FreIPA right now, but they could lift some code from Novel IM | Aug 24 14:03 |
| gnufreex | Novell has good identiti management tools. | Aug 24 14:04 |
| oiaohm | Really not worth lifting. | Aug 24 14:04 |
| oiaohm | freeipa is designed todo a lot more than what Novell stuff does gnufreex | Aug 24 14:04 |
| oiaohm | freeipa is about configuration management as well as idenity. | Aug 24 14:04 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Is Novell IM infected with .NET ? | Aug 24 14:04 |
| oiaohm | Issue is Novell IM does not play with samba. | Aug 24 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Instead depends on a windows ADS server to play well with windows. | Aug 24 14:05 |
| gnufreex | I think Novell doesn't eat its crap.. I mean Mono. They just polute other people's projects with Mono. | Aug 24 14:05 |
| gnufreex | That could be fixed, it is wlll problem. Novell don't want to fix it. | Aug 24 14:05 |
| oiaohm | Where redhat is now its not worth the effort. | Aug 24 14:06 |
| gnufreex | It was some time since I touched Novell stuff, so I coud be wrong. | Aug 24 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Redhat is looking to merge Freeipa and Samba 4 at the LDAP server. gnufreex | Aug 24 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Novell is not very far along that path. | Aug 24 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Part of the reason for that is Redhat has who was Novell lead samba developer. | Aug 24 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Ie Redhat has the tech Novell has by nicking there staff. gnufreex | Aug 24 14:09 |
| schestowitz | http://whitepapers.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=1858597&promo=100503 | Aug 24 14:10 |
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| schestowitz | Could a chipmaker ever want RHT? | Aug 24 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Issue is a few chip makers do. | Aug 24 14:10 |
| oiaohm | But it would be a bidding war. | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Novell too | Aug 24 14:11 |
| oiaohm | So not worth getting into unless RHT is at risk. | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | This we know for sure | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I'd rather ignore the Red Hat rumouris | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | I didn't see any evidence yet | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Maybe someone saw them chatting with SAP | Aug 24 14:11 |
| oiaohm | No Redhat has a lot of high quality staff. | Aug 24 14:11 |
| schestowitz | The rumour was largely ignored | Aug 24 14:12 |
| schestowitz | I saw it in one paragraph in some mixed article a day ago | Aug 24 14:12 |
| gnufreex | oiahom: I have problem understandig what you are saying. Jeremy Alison (samba founder) left Novell due to Microsoft deal. I don't know where he works now. | Aug 24 14:12 |
| oiaohm | who ever takes over redhat would want to do it peaceful if able. | Aug 24 14:12 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: True. No evidence. Best ignored. | Aug 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Until Wed. | Aug 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Press conference | Aug 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Remember how Novell/Microsoft announced the deal | Aug 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | Press conference preparations | Aug 24 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Just a day or so earlier | Aug 24 14:14 |
| schestowitz | But I think they said it's a MICROSOFT/NOVELL presentation | Aug 24 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Nov 2nd, 2006 | Aug 24 14:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Google | Aug 24 14:14 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: What with Google? | Aug 24 14:15 |
| schestowitz | jra@samba works there | Aug 24 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Jeremy Allison is at google gnufreex | Aug 24 14:15 |
| gnufreex | Aha, yes. | Aug 24 14:15 |
| oiaohm | But Jeremy was no the only samba person to walk way from Novell. | Aug 24 14:15 |
| oiaohm | All there samba people did. | Aug 24 14:16 |
| gnufreex | Yes. | Aug 24 14:16 |
| gnufreex | All folowed. | Aug 24 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Redhat picked up a few. | Aug 24 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Google picked up a few | Aug 24 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Ibm picked up a few | Aug 24 14:16 |
| oiaohm | None of them missed out on a job. | Aug 24 14:16 |
| gnufreex | And Samba is GPLv3 and development keeps going. That blows the theory that Linux switching to GPLv3 would scare away developers. | Aug 24 14:17 |
| oiaohm | At Linux kernel level the issue is way more complex then you can dream. | Aug 24 14:17 |
| gnufreex | I know, there are lots of contributors. | Aug 24 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the companies in there want to keep patents as offensive weapons against anyone thinking of making a Linux kernel never to merge back in. | Aug 24 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Yes Linux kernel its self has a offensive stock pile of patents. | Aug 24 14:18 |
| oiaohm | It was interesting with android. | Aug 24 14:19 |
| gnufreex | But the thing is, Linux kernel was "GPL" until 2001. That means any GPL version. If you want to switch, you only want to track contributors since 2001 to today. | Aug 24 14:19 |
| oiaohm | At first google was not talking about merging there tech back in. | Aug 24 14:19 |
| gnufreex | In 2001, Linus set GPLv2 only policy. | Aug 24 14:20 |
| oiaohm | After a few brute words from a few companies google policy flipped. | Aug 24 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes Linux kernel is protected by a little more than just a copyleft license. | Aug 24 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Changing to GPLv3 would remove that offensive patent usage. | Aug 24 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Does it also explain why lot of the core maintainers of Linux get away with setting terms on hardware companies. | Aug 24 14:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Copyright considered harmful? htxt.it/6E2q | Aug 24 14:22 | |
| gnufreex | Well, that would be good thing. | Aug 24 14:22 |
| gnufreex | We don't need patents. I don't think they are used to flush code back into kerenel | Aug 24 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is an example of software patents used for good. | Aug 24 14:23 |
| oiaohm | But those are out wayed by there use for bad. | Aug 24 14:23 |
| MinceR | except for the whole VFAT issue, for example | Aug 24 14:23 |
| gnufreex | It is to bizzare... | Aug 24 14:23 |
| oiaohm | IBM is bizzare | Aug 24 14:24 |
| oiaohm | This is where this method comes from in the first place. gnufreex | Aug 24 14:24 |
| oiaohm | I always thing it good that IBM has a patent on being a patent troll | Aug 24 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Very warped one to be tested in the court of law to say the least. | Aug 24 14:25 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: mentioned in a post I made this morning | Aug 24 14:26 |
| gnufreex | <oiaohm> I always thing it good that IBM has a patent on being a patent troll | Aug 24 14:26 |
| gnufreex | IBM has a patent on being a patent troll? | Aug 24 14:26 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 24 14:27 |
| oiaohm | http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220070244837%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20070244837&RS=DN/20070244837 | Aug 24 14:28 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: Microsoft allegedly tried to buy Red Hat too http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/is-microsoft-considering-acquisition-of-red-hat/1369 Watch for Szullik's response. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Microsoft considering acquisition of Red Hat? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 134.09 KB | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Ballmer: Our lawyers are primed and ready with the first salvo. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Szulik: <momentarily chokes on food> Bring ‘em on. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Ballmer: Maybe there’s a way for no one to get hurt. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Szulik: I’m listening. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Ballmer: Support a buyout. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Szulik: Waiter? Check please. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Ballmer: I’ll pay that. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| oiaohm | I just gave the patent link. gnufreex but it broke on paste. | Aug 24 14:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 24 14:28 |
| gnufreex | Hahaha | Aug 24 14:29 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Did The RIAA Just Destroy Its Own Argument Concerning Innocent Infringement? http://dlvr.it/4BM50 | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Skeletal Identification http://bit.ly/cPwXYk | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Backward compatibility is for THE INACCURATE OF SOUL and never mind vast existing codebases. Don't warn, break! http://is.gd/eAKCN | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @gijs: Modena on its way to become independent from IT vendor: http://ur1.ca/181tc | #OpenOffice #FTW | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The Ultimate Jailbreaker, Part 1 http://tinyurl.com/3ycm5k7 3 part series on the affect of cloud on mobile & mobile on cloud by @bakercom1 | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Does Sam Cameron going into labour mean she's defecting to the opposition? lol | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Official joint ACTA statement: confirms no release of draft text, aim of concluding key issues next month. http://bit.ly/c3Edhc | Aug 24 14:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Did The RIAA Just Destroy Its Own Argument Concerning Innocent Infringement? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 28.91 KB | Aug 24 14:29 |
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| gnufreex | Why page has SUN logo? | Aug 24 14:29 |
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| gnufreex | system and methods for extracting value from a portfolio of assets, for example a patent portfolio, are described | Aug 24 14:30 |
| gnufreex | This is crazy. | Aug 24 14:30 |
| gnufreex | Aren't bussines metod patent axed by Bilski case? | Aug 24 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat told me........ | Aug 24 14:30 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz we were supposed to be bought by Oracle, IBM and now SAP. We get used to it. Cannot see substance. Shorties need money? ;-)" | Aug 24 14:30 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/46900826#notice-47269012 | Aug 24 14:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.01 KB | Aug 24 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Good. That's exactly what I said when people brought up the rumour. Egbert has spread this FUD since 2006. | Aug 24 14:31 |
| oiaohm | Not all USA states. gnufreex | Aug 24 14:31 |
| oiaohm | Yes the USA legal system is the worlds worst mess. | Aug 24 14:31 |
| gnufreex | I hople Jan wildeboer is rigt. I would hate to see Red Hat get bought. | Aug 24 14:32 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: How to get info on how much cash SAP has in bank? Market cap is 52.55B rigt now http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:SAP | Aug 24 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SAP AG (ADR): NYSE:SAP quotes & news - Google Finance .::. Size~: 68.58 KB | Aug 24 14:34 |
| gnufreex | And their stock is down. | Aug 24 14:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #disturbing http://is.gd/eALTq - Assange story gets weirder every minute. | Aug 24 14:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Prosecutors may decide today on charges against WikiLeaks founder | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 70.34 KB | Aug 24 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Really doing a hostile take over on Redhat at the moment is not going to work that great. | Aug 24 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Thinking Redhat has stock piled money just in case the recent pulse of open source was a short term event. | Aug 24 14:36 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no way to know | Aug 24 14:36 |
| schestowitz | They could borrow money like Microsoft still does | Aug 24 14:36 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: They must report something, they are public company. For example, Red Hat has 950m in the bank. But yes, they could manipulate, so it is not 100% sure if it is true when you are dealing with Microsoft or SAP. | Aug 24 14:37 |
| schestowitz | "@jwildeboer my wild guess re Assange, since he complained about Ops 'infiltrat0rs' some months ago, is that he was set up by girls+Ops" | Aug 24 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Geez. Twitter still seems w0nky today | Aug 24 14:39 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Why this IBM trolling patent page has SUN logo? Maybe SUN had patent on patents? | Aug 24 14:40 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat's Brian Stevens on Cloud computing: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/62379642/ | Aug 24 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: no | Aug 24 14:45 |
| schestowitz | It's not Sun | Aug 24 14:45 |
| schestowitz | It's the USPTO favicon, I've always wondered that | Aug 24 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it just looks like SUN's logo, it's too small to tell (16x16) | Aug 24 14:45 |
| gnufreex | It is Sun logo http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sun-microsystems_logo.png | Aug 24 14:45 |
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| gnufreex | The SUN cubicle. | Aug 24 14:46 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Windows 95 Turns 15 http://bit.ly/de8YHG | Aug 24 14:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Windows 95 Turns 15 .::. Size~: 50.35 KB | Aug 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.uspto.gov/favicon.ico | Aug 24 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: for all pages | Aug 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Not just this patent | Aug 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | I saw it ages ago | Aug 24 14:46 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. | Aug 24 14:46 |
| gnufreex | For all pages. | Aug 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | slashdot is being lame again | Aug 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they have kids admin | Aug 24 14:47 |
| gnufreex | Maybe SUN patented USPTO :D | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | They thought the sun logo wascool | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | And just lumped it in | Aug 24 14:47 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Sun sponsored them :-) | Aug 24 14:47 |
| gnufreex | Sun was cool. | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | favicon-guerilla-marketing | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: as long as the fans worked | Aug 24 14:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/phpMyAdmin-updates-close-vulnerabilities-1063579.html | Aug 24 14:49 |
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| gnufreex | SGI logo was even coller. http://www.tw.rhino3d.com/gallery/render/images/Sgi_Logo.jpg | Aug 24 14:50 |
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| MinceR | i think those sun favicons are some sort of default in some web server or in the way they ship web server hw | Aug 24 14:50 |
| Ziomatrix | hi | Aug 24 14:50 |
| MinceR | hay | Aug 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: I think Julian from Wikileaks had a Hurd pulled on him | Aug 24 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Assuming both were trapped | Aug 24 14:51 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: Yes, maybe they are using SUN webserver instead APache. SPARC originaly shiped with that. | Aug 24 14:51 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: how so? Only differences is such attention serves to strengthen Jullian :-P | Aug 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Julian was seduced by Swedish girls who were paid by those who try to stop Julian | Aug 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Why assassinate when you can character-assassinate? | Aug 24 14:52 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Swedish girls posing as members of the Pirate Party perhaps? | Aug 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz | It sure tossed Hurd, assuming there's more to it than we all knew | Aug 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz | He kept quiet, Julia said "sorry" | Aug 24 14:52 |
| schestowitz | But hey, making a living for her kid by tossing a CEO (assuming the theory is correct) is better than going down the ladder of the pr0n induistry | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | [14:52] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: Swedish girls posing as members of the Pirate Party perhaps? | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | They can do this for a while | Aug 24 14:53 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: don't forget these are the same "authorities" that went along with carrying a warrant issued by the private RIAA/MPAA even though it falls well outside their jursidiction | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Julian wrote some months ago they found infiltartoir | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I know someone who pretends to be a BNP member | Aug 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | To spy and report on them | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | If he knows them, then their allegations hold more water | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he even slept with them, but they can do staging moves to make it look like "rape" | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Like when girls play "hard to get" | Aug 24 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Either way, I think he'll stay smeared | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | THe story will continue to resurface | Aug 24 14:55 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well apparently according to Slashdot as of the 21st there is no more warrant: http://tinyurl.com/27gvxrj | Aug 24 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot News Story | Julian Assange Faces Rape Investigation In Sweden — Updated .::. Size~: 181.7 KB | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | he was getting cozy with SE politicians this week | Aug 24 14:55 |
| Ziomatrix | It looks like until Hurd's debacle Jullian's case is losing steam before it even started | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | To pass laws like in Iceland maybe, and the pirate partyhosting | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Now they can be pressured to withdraw | Aug 24 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Guilty by association and all that | Aug 24 14:55 |
| Ziomatrix | I'm sure CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and ilk will somehow miss that when reporting | Aug 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz | There is a new invetigation | Aug 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Julian linked to it earlier | Aug 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz | That looks whether the girls colluded with someone | Aug 24 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Like someone putting $1ml in their account for them to do a number on him... | Aug 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to trace | Aug 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz | They can make payback 5 years from now | Aug 24 14:57 |
| schestowitz | And they can approach true and existing pirate party folks.... now have them actually "infiltrate" | Aug 24 14:57 |
| oiaohm | http://www1.lexmark.com/content/en_us/about_us/newsroom/news_releases/lexmark_sues_importers_on_patent_infringement.shtml Another reason to avoid Lexmark printers schestowitz | Aug 24 14:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lexmark - Lexmark sues importers of laser cartridges for patent infringement .::. Size~: 70.12 KB | Aug 24 14:58 |
| *schestowitz doesn't use printers | Aug 24 14:58 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: so what do you think of HP and their current attempt to spend themselves into oblivion by releasing potentially 3 different Tablets and another multi-billion dollar purchase? http://tinyurl.com/2dahqq8 | Aug 24 14:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP seriously outbids Dell for 3PAR cloud storage firm | PreCentral.net .::. Size~: 90.97 KB | Aug 24 14:59 |
| Ziomatrix | somehow seeing WebOS now in the hands of HP brings back memories of reading what happened with Amiga at Commodore | Aug 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz | HP has spare money, no? | Aug 24 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Dell is the one borrowing lots and taking Intel bribes | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | These people should stick to wife+abstinence or something | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Their foes pull those old "sex charges" strick | Aug 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | *tricks | Aug 24 15:01 |
| gnufreex | Wow,..,. Dell offered 500m, HP 1.6b | Aug 24 15:03 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: lol, once you're famous and you have a wife its assumed you'll cheat on her at some point. Its not a matter of if but when | Aug 24 15:03 |
| gnufreex | Are HP idiots? | Aug 24 15:03 |
| gnufreex | They could have it for say... .700m | Aug 24 15:03 |
| Ziomatrix | gnufreex: ecspecially when there are potentially better and more open virtual solutions out there | Aug 24 15:04 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. I am even more convinced that there is new Belluzzo in HP. | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | I can't find that video on YouTUbe where Yeltsin pinches that woman | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Damn | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | It would have been viral | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | But too old for the Tube | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FIoocja4k | Aug 24 15:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Yeltsin .::. Size~: 94.99 KB | Aug 24 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Oh, here: | Aug 24 15:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMThTEA4M0o&feature=related | Aug 24 15:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Highlights Boris Yeltsin (Funny moments) .::. Size~: 96.22 KB | Aug 24 15:07 |
| schestowitz | 1:02 | Aug 24 15:07 |
| Ziomatrix | looks like VZW is bending even further to Google: http://tinyurl.com/26qea75 Phases out Palm Pre and Pixi Plus before they even release an update to the latest and much needed v1.4.5 patch. | Aug 24 15:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rumor: Verizon phasing out the Pre Plus? | PreCentral.net .::. Size~: 86.18 KB | Aug 24 15:08 |
| schestowitz | I think there's one with a pinch | Aug 24 15:08 |
| schestowitz | That's now the incident I had in mind, I think | Aug 24 15:08 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 24 15:08 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: for all his drunkardness Yelsin did manage to swing full support of the Russian people in forever ending the Soviet Communist Party. He is also the one that brought Putin up through the ranks. | Aug 24 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 24 15:09 |
| MinceR | i don't think that bringing Putin up was a good thing | Aug 24 15:09 |
| schestowitz | He's a funny guy | Aug 24 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Bush liked Putin | Aug 24 15:09 |
| schestowitz | He wore a cross, so.. | Aug 24 15:09 |
| MinceR | i rest my case | Aug 24 15:09 |
| MinceR | Fun Guy from Yuggoth? | Aug 24 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Russian may have used 9/11 to whack the Chechens | Aug 24 15:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/chechnya/ | Aug 24 15:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The "Dirty War" In Chechnya .::. Size~: 9.44 KB | Aug 24 15:10 |
| MinceR | Warty Dirt | Aug 24 15:11 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Spetznaz have been carrying raids on Chechens for long time before 9/11 was a glimmer in Osama's eye | Aug 24 15:11 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: even during Soviet times they were messing around with the area | Aug 24 15:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: it has been a long and arduous process to Russify the area | Aug 24 15:13 |
| gnufreex | I just | Aug 24 15:13 |
| gnufreex | Had a thought: What Oracle uses to compile their DB | Aug 24 15:13 |
| gnufreex | What compiler? | Aug 24 15:13 |
| gnufreex | Probably not GCC. | Aug 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | the one which compiles itself.. :-) | Aug 24 15:14 |
| gnufreex | Oracle DB is C | Aug 24 15:14 |
| gnufreex | witten in C. | Aug 24 15:14 |
| MinceR | only the core :> | Aug 24 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Ellison writes machine code | Aug 24 15:14 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 24 15:14 |
| MinceR | it comes with tons of java bloat | Aug 24 15:14 |
| *MinceR used oracle in college | Aug 24 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | What's SleepyCat written in? | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | It comes with JVM, PL/SQL, SQL | Aug 24 15:15 |
| MinceR | it was horrid | Aug 24 15:15 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: extemists and probably foriegn espionage have exploited that turmoil. | Aug 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | I mean their products | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | Speepy cad has Java editon and normal one | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | Normal one is C/C++ | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | Mixed | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | In fact, it is C only. | Aug 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Michael Olson bailed out | Aug 24 15:15 |
| gnufreex | I think | Aug 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | like 3 years ago | Aug 24 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Was he in cloudera now? | Aug 24 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Foggera | Aug 24 15:16 |
| gnufreex | Yes, he is in Cloudera. | Aug 24 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Foggera bout it! | Aug 24 15:16 |
| Ziomatrix | lol | Aug 24 15:16 |
| MinceR | mothra | Aug 24 15:16 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/46906068#notice-47274318 "@schestowitz oh, is it Katherine Egberts again? In that case you really didn't need to ask me ;-)" | Aug 24 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.05 KB | Aug 24 15:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/katherine-egbert-wrong-again/ | Aug 24 15:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Memo to Katherine Egbert: Time to Call it Quits? | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.9 KB | Aug 24 15:18 |
| schestowitz | I think she's not behind the SAP rumour (which makes the least sense), but she's behind all the other false manipulations of the stock | Aug 24 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Oracle still does sparc. http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26056 | Aug 24 15:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HEXUS.net - News :: Ubuntu to let SPARC and IA64 support lapse : Page - 1/1 .::. Size~: 31.06 KB | Aug 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu goes for the place where market share is | Aug 24 15:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/education/omg-i-just-bought-5400-worth-of-apple-gear/4186 | Aug 24 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OMG! I just bought $5400 worth of Apple gear! | ZDNet .::. Size~: 129.09 KB | Aug 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz | This showed up in Google NEws | Aug 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Cause kids who blog in ZDNet are now "journalists" OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111 | Aug 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I was looking for news on "Ubuntu" | Aug 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz | ZDNet..... static white noise in your RSS feeds | Aug 24 15:23 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/16805/which_linux_is_the_most_popular_linux | Aug 24 15:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Which Linux is the most popular Linux? - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 68.44 KB | Aug 24 15:24 |
| schestowitz | The one with the most downloads? | Aug 24 15:24 |
| gnufreex | Haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHSiqQpg7Uc&NR=1 | Aug 24 15:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Bush- Drunk .::. Size~: 92.99 KB | Aug 24 15:24 |
| gnufreex | Just saw that video when I watched Yeltsin | Aug 24 15:25 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: fake | Aug 24 15:26 |
| Ziomatrix | which distro would be easiest to install on a Pentium M subnotebook? | Aug 24 15:26 |
| MinceR | why feed zdnet? | Aug 24 15:26 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Aug 24 15:26 |
| gnufreex | Yes, probably fake. | Aug 24 15:26 |
| schestowitz | It enters Google Nooooz | Aug 24 15:26 |
| schestowitz | ZzZzZ Ziomatrix11 | Aug 24 15:27 |
| Ziomatrix | does Linux Mint integrate Mono like Ubuntu does? | Aug 24 15:27 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 24 15:27 |
| MinceR | google-snooze it | Aug 24 15:27 |
| schestowitz | gnome-don't too | Aug 24 15:27 |
| schestowitz | The GNOME edition anyway | Aug 24 15:27 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: so the Gnome edition of Linux Mint has Mono libs? | Aug 24 15:28 |
| schestowitz | DVL should preinstall MOno | Aug 24 15:28 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @maryjofoley: Were you in line to buy Windows 95 fifteen years ago?: http://zd.net/a6WMa9 Me: No. But, I was reporting on it. ;-) | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] #OpenSolaris may be dead, but it's not dead, dead thanks to Illumos http://is.gd/eANqj | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The Five Winners of Oracle suing Google http://bit.ly/bcpeUt In the short run, #Apple #Microsoft #MeeGo are winners. | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @gijs Modena on its way to become independent from IT vendor: http://ur1.ca/181tc | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Writers groups attack C-32 fair dealing reform with fear mongering about impact of the education exception. http://bit.ly/cimi5k | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Fact free observations about WikiLeaks from the Heritage Foundation | Salon http://bit.ly/cNmmF3 | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] TV, Cable Companies Convincing Themselves People Don't Want To Cut The Cable http://dlvr.it/4BWqg | Aug 24 15:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Were you in line to buy Windows 95 fifteen years ago? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 129.99 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle dumps OpenSolaris - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 71.19 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Five Winners of Oracle suing Google | ITworld .::. Size~: 92.71 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IT: Municipality of Modena removing vendor dependency office tools — .::. Size~: 29.44 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fact-free accusations about WikiLeaks - WikiLeaks - Salon.com .::. Size~: 137.73 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TV, Cable Companies Convincing Themselves People Don't Want To Cut The Cable | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.46 KB | Aug 24 15:29 |
| schestowitz | cra8*y Twitter | Aug 24 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Titsup today | Aug 24 15:29 |
| schestowitz | Damn Vulnerable Linux should include Monoi. Training people how to remove malware.. | Aug 24 15:29 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I just finally have the time to resuscitate a Fujitsu Lifebook P7120 thats my folks which has been literally chocking on all the background and toolbar apps running on its XP. | Aug 24 15:30 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] The rumours about Red Hat being bought are probably false, just like the previous half a dozen such rumours. | Aug 24 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | I have an old Compaq laptop of mine here | Aug 24 15:33 |
| schestowitz | But with 32 MB of RAM I lack the desire to work it out | Aug 24 15:33 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: do you run Fedora on it? | Aug 24 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Are you kiddin'? :=) | Aug 24 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Anaconda needs like 10 times thart | Aug 24 15:33 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: lol, I figured. So which distro? | Aug 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz | None | Aug 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz | It had win98 on it origianlly | Aug 24 15:34 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I was looking at Mint Linux, until you told me it has Mono it in | Aug 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz | *originally | Aug 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: use the KDE one.. 8.0 | Aug 24 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu Milf 8.0 :-S | Aug 24 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Linux Milf Satanic Edition | Aug 24 15:35 |
| MinceR | anaconda also needs clue | Aug 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: it's Linux Mint, not Mint Linux | Aug 24 15:36 |
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| MinceR | (so it will stop pushing ext4 like it's paid for it) | Aug 24 15:36 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: thanks, do you mean Linux Mint KDE version? | Aug 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/podcasts/360/2010/082310-nw360-daily.html | Aug 24 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: it received excellent reviews | Aug 24 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Is this normal Slashdot? They post some real dross today | Aug 24 15:37 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Newest Kindles to ship Friday http://is.gd/eARSo But, if you haven't already ordered a new #Kindle, don't expect to see it anytime soon. | Aug 24 15:39 | |
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| schestowitz | Kinder | Aug 24 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Amazon Kinder... adult kids who don't understand DRM | Aug 24 15:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Apple Patent Points To iMac Touch Running OS X and iOS http://bit.ly/buRXJl | Aug 24 15:40 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shanerichmond/100005456/sorry-you-cant-open-that-book-here/ | Aug 24 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | "Every content industry bounds into digital media vowing not to make the same mistakes of the music industry, an industry which spent a decade setting the global standard for “doing it wrong”. Ironically, the music industry has been slowly getting its act together – with a few exceptions – in recent years, while the books business, the film studios and the TV companies have doddered in, acting like they want to make it as hard | Aug 24 15:40 |
| schestowitz | as possible for anyone to enjoy their content and giving the impression that they really hate their customers." | Aug 24 15:40 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Do you love cancer? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/7961643/We-love-open-source-says-Microsoft.html | Aug 24 15:41 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @caostheory Microsoft says 'We love open source'. http://bit.ly/cQdGU5 >> cough, cough, sure | Aug 24 15:46 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Postmedia News on the Access Copyright tariff proposal and response from education. http://bit.ly/cTV2KG | Aug 24 15:46 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: little Ubuntu news on the Web recently | Aug 24 15:46 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I'm more familiar with GNOME but I was always curious about giving KDE a serious try, it looks like a great desktop for laptops. | Aug 24 15:47 |
| schestowitz | when Paoli says "open source" he means his Windows-only #fogcomputing which he recently bragged about. Dilute, divert, deceive. | Aug 24 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: why laptop? | Aug 24 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Netbook ed? | Aug 24 15:47 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well I suppose its like a netbook with a 10.6' but it does have a disc drive | Aug 24 15:48 |
| jono | schestowitz you mean there is not much? | Aug 24 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's what I meant | Aug 24 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I worry that it doesn't keep up with presence, esp. with Digg being ruined and all | Aug 24 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Android is the new 'Ubuntu' | Aug 24 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Tablets, sub-notebooks, phones.... | Aug 24 15:50 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: anyway I don't like the term netbook, its a stolen trademark | Aug 24 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Acer goes in this direction too... Dell has a tablet-phone-ish hybrid with Android too | Aug 24 15:50 |
| MinceR | whose trademark is netbook, psion's? | Aug 24 15:50 |
| schestowitz | And Chrome OS as a rumoured inclusion | Aug 24 15:50 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they settled | Aug 24 15:51 |
| schestowitz | I used to think it was Intel's | Aug 24 15:51 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: yup, but then Intel started using it to market its Intel Atom chipsets | Aug 24 15:51 |
| MinceR | it's a silly name, but i don't have a better name for that category | Aug 24 15:51 |
| schestowitz | iOS :-) | Aug 24 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Cisco | Aug 24 15:51 |
| MinceR | (ultraportables are more powerful and more expensive) | Aug 24 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Amongst others from Apple | Aug 24 15:51 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: subnotebook? | Aug 24 15:52 |
| MinceR | indeed, cisco should sue crApple for trademark infringement on IOS | Aug 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz | We need a new name for Android, I think | Aug 24 15:52 |
| MinceR | oh, i meant subnotebook, not ultraportable | Aug 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz | To emcompass Linux or freedom | Aug 24 15:52 |
| MinceR | used the term so long ago i forgot it | Aug 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz | That pedobot from Google teaches the user nothing about freedom | Aug 24 15:52 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: yea, any of those two names over netbook, even mobile PC or something | Aug 24 15:52 |
| MinceR | android doesn't have that much to do with freedom, does it? | Aug 24 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Android is what Apple would have done with Linux | Aug 24 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Had Jobs not hated the GPLv2 so much | Aug 24 15:53 |
| MinceR | the PDA/UMPC/MID class has a similar naming issue | Aug 24 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Apple wanted to use linux in hypePhone | Aug 24 15:53 |
| MinceR | they wanted it for next too, didn't they? | Aug 24 15:53 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Google's CEO is really starting to sound like an Orwellian nightmare anyway: http://tinyurl.com/37jbg86 | Aug 24 15:53 |
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| MinceR | or where does mkLinux come from? | Aug 24 15:53 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: MkLinux is Linux on Mach, done by Apple. | Aug 24 15:54 |
| MinceR | people aren't terrified enough of google | Aug 24 15:54 |
| gnufreex | Not Next | Aug 24 15:54 |
| MinceR | oh. | Aug 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: the ultumnate spy | Aug 24 15:54 |
| MinceR | was it before or after next? | Aug 24 15:54 |
| gnufreex | When Jobs come back, he canned it | Aug 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Immortal cookies, flash cookie from YouTUbe, etc. | Aug 24 15:54 |
| gnufreex | And used BSD on Mach | Aug 24 15:54 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 24 15:54 |
| MinceR | so osx could have ended up better if jobs hadn't returned? | Aug 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | How are the Android forks coming along? | Aug 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | That tablet thing Google silenced or denied access to shop | Aug 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | For shipping GOOG binaries | Aug 24 15:55 |
| gnufreex | It would have Linux... I don't know if it would end up better. Apple also wanted to buy Be, inc. So it is not certaon if they would use MkLinux. MinceR | Aug 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | And there's CyanogenMod | Aug 24 15:56 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 24 15:56 |
| gnufreex | *certain. | Aug 24 15:56 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: what is "ic" | Aug 24 15:56 |
| Ziomatrix | bbl | Aug 24 15:56 |
| MinceR | i figure GPLv2 would have forced _slightly_ better behavior on them | Aug 24 15:56 |
| MinceR | gnufreex: "i see" | Aug 24 15:56 |
| schestowitz | v | Aug 24 15:56 |
| schestowitz | http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page | Aug 24 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-02215-alpha-released | Aug 24 15:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/news?hl=&q=twitter&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Aug 24 15:58 |
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| gnufreex | MinceR: Apple would have to remove Mach sooner or later, since it scales like crap. So it will be interesthing what they will chose. | Aug 24 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Seems like Twitter is indeed having some b0rkiness | Aug 24 15:58 |
| gnufreex | They are too stupid to write their own kernel, and some hate them so might sue them for patents. | Aug 24 15:59 |
| MinceR | i think they'll just steal plain FreeBSD. | Aug 24 15:59 |
| gnufreex | I think not. They would then have to share drivers with FreeBSD community. They don't want that. | Aug 24 16:00 |
| MinceR | nah | Aug 24 16:00 |
| MinceR | they can come up with a way not to share drivers with them | Aug 24 16:00 |
| MinceR | only to use theirs | Aug 24 16:00 |
| gnufreex | That would mean that OS X runs everywhare, they want it only on their hardware. | Aug 24 16:00 |
| schestowitz | What about CUPS? | Aug 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz | For printers 'tleast | Aug 24 16:01 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll put DRM on drivers | Aug 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Noi | Aug 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz | "iEnablement" | Aug 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Make it sound nice | Aug 24 16:01 |
| Ziomatrix | btw speaking of Apple check out the most obsurd iTunes app rejection of all time: http://tinyurl.com/2ertxwu | Aug 24 16:01 |
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| MinceR | CUPS doesn't need to change for this and i'm not sure if crApple sells their own brand printers anymore | Aug 24 16:01 |
| MinceR | as long as they don't, they'll be fine with sharing CUPS drivers | Aug 24 16:01 |
| MinceR | DRM support is already in the kernel and there's a TPM shipped in every crApple PC | Aug 24 16:02 |
| gnufreex | They don't want Linux to have printer support like OS X | Aug 24 16:02 |
| MinceR | they did want osx to have printer support like GNU/Linux | Aug 24 16:03 |
| MinceR | that's why they bought CUPS in the first place | Aug 24 16:03 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, but they now have better printer support. | Aug 24 16:03 |
| MinceR | of course they can damage CUPS but it would hurt them more | Aug 24 16:03 |
| MinceR | they do? | Aug 24 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Doubt it.. | Aug 24 16:03 |
| gnufreex | Yes, color and such. They moved Mike Sweet (CUPS guy) away from CUPS and to their propriatary printing libraries. | Aug 24 16:04 |
| Ziomatrix | gnufreex: I don't know, I never had problems printing from YDL on the PS3 to an HP All-In-One | Aug 24 16:04 |
| Ziomatrix | over Wifi | Aug 24 16:04 |
| MinceR | neither had i any problems with printing from GNU/Linux using CUPS | Aug 24 16:04 |
| gnufreex | Depending on the printer. I had problem with Epson | Aug 24 16:05 |
| gnufreex | But it was a while ago. | Aug 24 16:05 |
| gnufreex | They maintain CUPS nicely, but they make OS X specific stuff propriatary, and not parto of CUPS. They are trying to get edge in printing over GNU/linux | Aug 24 16:06 |
| schestowitz | url? | Aug 24 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ffii when Paoli says "open source" he means his Windows-only #fogcomputing which he recently bragged about. Dilute, divert, deceive. | Aug 24 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetmozilla: HTML5 Video preload attribute supported in Firefox 4 http://mzl.la/9cRL5g | Aug 24 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @backtracklinux: RT @ryujin: Microsoft DLL Hijacking Exploit in Action - http://bit.ly/daHTy3 !security !microsoft | Aug 24 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: The rumours about Red Hat being bought are probably false, just like the previous half a dozen such rumours. | Aug 24 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Scareware solicitors #ACSLaw sent to regulator • The Register http://ow.ly/2u1rj « About time too. ACSLaw are 21st century Witchfinders | Aug 24 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Sjig: Belgian University adds Braille extension 4 #OpenOffice http://ur1.ca/181u4 !ooo | Aug 24 16:07 | |
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| gnufreex | <schestowitz> url? | Aug 24 16:09 |
| gnufreex | Look for acuisition of CUPS, they said that much on first day. | Aug 24 16:09 |
| gnufreex | http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2045132320.html | Aug 24 16:09 |
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| gnufreex | "CUPS development, however, will not be Sweet's full-time job at Apple. Sweet said he will be "primarily working on non-CUPS projects." Given his background, one presumes those will still be printer-related projects." | Aug 24 16:09 |
| gnufreex | I also read something among those lines later. | Aug 24 16:10 |
| MinceR | if they fuck with it too much, it's fork time | Aug 24 16:10 |
| gnufreex | CUPS is LGPL. They will maintain it and enhance basic funcionality, but all goodies go into OSX specific propriatary parts. | Aug 24 16:11 |
| MinceR | or time to come up with an improved design :> | Aug 24 16:11 |
| gnufreex | And those parts are not CUPS at all. | Aug 24 16:11 |
| gnufreex | I have messed with OS X and hackintosh last year. | Aug 24 16:11 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @JustMeAmber: Microsoft Market Share Squashers to present at Ohio LinuxFest’s Ubucon-check out this post by @wwwuse- http://is.gd/eAMCS | Aug 24 16:12 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @sragavan: Just had been to eZone. Tried out Samsung Galaxy 9000, an android phone. It was simply awesome. | Aug 24 16:12 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @davidjoachim: Amtrak Adds to Commuter Chaos in New York Region - http://nyti.ms/dbleYf Early 20th century equipment fails. | Aug 24 16:12 | |
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| gnufreex | CUPS doesn't work same as on Linux. | Aug 24 16:12 |
| gnufreex | I can't say it works better but is different. They try to pull some crapola. | Aug 24 16:14 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Was no copyright law the real reason for Germany's industrial expansion http://bit.ly/bMal89 | Aug 24 16:16 | |
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| gnufreex | scestowitz: Look at comments here http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082310-microsoft-open-source.html Nobody beleives that Microsoft "loves open source" | Aug 24 16:19 |
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| cubevector | lol | Aug 24 16:20 |
| cubevector | and Hilter loved the Jews :) | Aug 24 16:20 |
| cubevector | GNU+Linux has Microsoft beat | Aug 24 16:20 |
| cubevector | the internet itself provided the method | Aug 24 16:21 |
| gnufreex | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/65357 | Aug 24 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: They are lying. They want "open source" but not with Open Source Definition, and they don't want existing communities and licens | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 66.54 KB | Aug 24 16:21 |
| cubevector | in other words what they really hate is the GPL | Aug 24 16:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Assange prosecutor cited for secrecy breach | TheLocal http://bit.ly/d4nFCt | Aug 24 16:23 | |
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| gnufreex | Expecialy version 3 | Aug 24 16:23 |
| gnufreex | http://martin.iturbide.com/?page_id=114 | Aug 24 16:23 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] Britain must have an intellectual property system that encourages innovation and is internationally competitive http://ur1.ca/184q7 | Aug 24 16:26 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @TheTechScribe: Fedora 14 Alpha released <- Check out the release notes... http://bit.ly/9Ncu22 Me: Interesting, baked-in MeeGo | Aug 24 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Medical Daily: A new generation of power: Hi-tech rechargeable batteries developed for military http://ow.ly/2u1SO | Aug 24 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I Am, Therefore I Think: Entertainment and Hypocrisy http://ow.ly/2u23X | Aug 24 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @stickster: !Fedora 14 Alpha is out, read the announcement here: http://2tu.us/2lm6 -- grab a copy here: http://2tu.us/2lm7 | Aug 24 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: MeeGo Conference call for proposals extended. You have until Friday. http://bit.ly/bzTkw3 | Aug 24 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Android big winner as smartphone sales increase 50% http://is.gd/eAWGI !android !freesoftware | Aug 24 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "The dirty little secret about Google Android" is really about how some hardware makers are taking liberties http://ow.ly/2u2c2 | Aug 24 16:32 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:19] <gnufreex> scestowitz: Look at comments here http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/082310-microsoft-open-source.html Nobody beleives that Microsoft "loves open source" | Aug 24 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | I saw them earlier | Aug 24 16:36 |
| gnufreex | They keep piling up :-) | Aug 24 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nokia, Intel say MeeGo software off to good start http://is.gd/eAXjQ !nokia !intel !meego !freesoftware | Aug 24 16:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] New Research Suggest Google Book Search Helps Publishers A Lot More Than It Hurts http://dlvr.it/4Bfzh | Aug 24 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] AMD Announces 8-Core Bulldozer CPU http://is.gd/eAY5w !amd | Aug 24 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] You know what? we miss the most basic easy-to-read docs about !freesoftware importence in #Arabic. Working on "Free Software FAQ". | Aug 24 17:07 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Ondanks de leuke spullen die je op de HCC dagen op de kop kon tikken, was het na mijn mening veel te druk. | Aug 24 17:08 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] I heb op de HCC dagen, jaren geleden Microsoft QuickBASIC 4.5 legaal gekocht en het "GW-BASIC" handboek. En nog een stoot shareware floppys | Aug 24 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm ... mostly teachers here do a herculean task with very little support. Most are teachers 'cause they love to teach. | Aug 24 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great evening out with the boys watching the #yog girls football. Gold to Chile, Silver Equa. Guniea, bronze Turkey #fb | Aug 24 17:12 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Toen waren de HCC dagen nog echt "nerdy", vraag me af of het nu nog steeds zo'n geek bende is (vrees van niet)... | Aug 24 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] in a word, wow! space images of the Pakistani floods - http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/pakistan-flood-pictures/all/1 #fb | Aug 24 17:17 | |
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| gnufreex | Bulldozer promises much... I hope it doesnt get botched like first Phenom | Aug 24 17:17 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: Red Hat Takeover Rumour, Fedora 14 Alpha is Out http://techrights.org/2010/08/24/fedora-14-alpha/ #techrights | Aug 24 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/8/2010: Red Hat Takeover Rumour, Fedora 14 Alpha is Out http://techrights.org/2010/08/24/fedora-14-alpha/ !techrights | Aug 24 17:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Can the US try WikiLeaks staff for espionage? Sure thing! | Opinio Juris http://bit.ly/aSijKg | Aug 24 17:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Doing the right thing with privacy on Facebook and LinkedIn - http://strom.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/facebook-privacy/ #fb | Aug 24 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] You know when you have this 'amazing' project and suddenly the person you choose to support you and give positive feedback says it's crap?:( | Aug 24 17:32 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] RIAA Boss Says That The DMCA 'Isn't Working' Any More http://dlvr.it/4Bllr | Aug 24 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Vyatta 6.1 routing software was launched http://is.gd/eB3zM !gnu !linux !freesoftware !vyatta | Aug 24 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: RT @eLiberatica: EU: Guide on procurement of open source revised - http://is.gd/ey7Hv | Aug 24 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] !OpenStack: allow any organization to create cloud computing using open source software on standard hardware http://openstack.org/index.php | Aug 24 17:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Download Open Source Vyatta Core Releases | Vyatta.org .::. Size~: 14.1 KB | Aug 24 17:47 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] RT @GreatIndianSale: Bauxite on your face, you big disgrace! http://bit.ly/bKJBqq (pdf) report holds #vedanta guilty on multiple counts. Bri | Aug 24 17:49 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Girls Bugged Teachers' Staff Room http://bit.ly/dgMuHr | Aug 24 17:49 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] “Microsoft Hates the Term “Free Software” or “Freedom”, They Prefer to Use Open Source” http://ur1.ca/18756 | Aug 24 17:59 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Microsoft LOVES open source!? http://bit.ly/a8Gmef Well, that's what they say, @sjvn wouldn't accept any roses from #Microsoft though. | Aug 24 18:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft LOVES open source!? - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 60.98 KB | Aug 24 18:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber It looks like, as reported, !Gwibber Daily deals with StatusNet correctly again? That means I can use it. Other bugs are tolerable. | Aug 24 18:12 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] AMD Details Upcoming Bulldozer Architecture http://bit.ly/bK8mn1 | Aug 24 18:13 | |
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| schestowitz | 8 cores.... maybe for servers.... | Aug 24 18:25 |
| schestowitz | 2 is more than enough | Aug 24 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Not for Vista* :-) | Aug 24 18:25 |
| Aondo | i must say tho, i enjoy more than 2 cores while doing photo stuff :D | Aug 24 18:26 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Cut Costs by Using Linux Appliances for Branch Offices http://ow.ly/2u691 Yo. Big business pay attention. Cost savings here. #Linux by @sjvn | Aug 24 18:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, back from work.... | Aug 24 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | Aondo: hypePad is like 4 hypePhones combined :-) | Aug 24 18:34 |
| schestowitz | It almost multi-tasks even | Aug 24 18:34 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: iGroan and iPad. | Aug 24 18:35 |
| gnufreex | Those are RMS's words | Aug 24 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Groan? | Aug 24 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Groin? | Aug 24 18:35 |
| gnufreex | Something like that | Aug 24 18:35 |
| schestowitz | That wouldn't be safe though (the latter), these things explode sometimes | Aug 24 18:35 |
| gnufreex | iPad is iBad | Aug 24 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Says RMS | Aug 24 18:36 |
| gnufreex | Stallman said that on Reddit | Aug 24 18:36 |
| schestowitz | we call it hypePad | Aug 24 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Sounds the same, vocally | Aug 24 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] ♻ @cdibona: Me to a pal who recently left a bad employer: Ever been punched in the face? Doesn't it feel great when it stops? | Aug 24 18:37 | |
| gnufreex | RMS: For instance, Apple's | Aug 24 18:37 |
| gnufreex | terms for the iGroan/iBad app store have the effect that any | Aug 24 18:37 |
| gnufreex | executable received through the app store cannot be free software. | Aug 24 18:37 |
| gnufreex | http://blog.reddit.com/2010/07/rms-ama.html | Aug 24 18:37 |
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| gnufreex | Question number 4 | Aug 24 18:38 |
| gnufreex | groan/grōn/ | Aug 24 18:38 |
| gnufreex | Noun: A deep, inarticulate sound made in pain or despair. | Aug 24 18:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] 11 Biggest Open Source Success Stories That is Changing The World As We Know It: Tech Drive-in: "According to Fort... http://bit.ly/dvNJTH | Aug 24 18:39 | |
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| gnufreex | But yeah, hypePhone is maybe better. | Aug 24 18:39 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Jennifer Aniston's Representatives Threaten Gawker For Showing Her [Allegedly] Sans Photoshop http://dlvr.it/4Bt1g | Aug 24 18:41 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Apple Increases Censorship Bars and #Microsoft AstroTurfer Pushes Android/Linux Towards Censorship http://ur1.ca/1880n #linux #freedom | Aug 24 18:42 | |
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| cubezzz | heh, Stallman can't say what his favourite movie is | Aug 24 18:51 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @firefox: Firefox 4 Beta Updated with Sync and Panorama- test it out and let us know what you think! http://mzl.la/9kb1LO | Aug 24 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Is The Linux Brand Poisoned?" is a dodgy headline and I don't agree but it's a interesting piece for all that http://ow.ly/2u8av | Aug 24 18:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've been learning about "Binary Planting" at ARS http://is.gd/eBalB | Aug 24 18:52 | |
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| cubezzz | "Since nearly all Hollywood movies are crap, due to the system that | Aug 24 18:53 |
| cubezzz | produces them, this will have practical results almost equivalent to a | Aug 24 18:53 |
| cubezzz | total boycott of Hollywood." | Aug 24 18:53 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] What Google's Data Center Can Teach You by @sjvn http://ow.ly/2u6pT For starters, design for constant failures. | Aug 24 18:56 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @r2g2: Topsy deploys v2 platform to index 100 billion status updates http://bit.ly/dxvzEi Me: Twitter search engine to keep an eye on. | Aug 24 18:58 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Canon Unveils 120-Megapixel Camera Sensor http://bit.ly/bsvDYH | Aug 24 19:01 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: +1 to RMS | Aug 24 19:03 |
| gnufreex | I am taking RMS's advice. Even before he said that. I am boycotting crap movies for 4 years now. I watch 1 movie per year. | Aug 24 19:05 |
| cubezzz | I like some movies | Aug 24 19:05 |
| cubezzz | older ones mostly | Aug 24 19:05 |
| cubevector | the last movie I watched was Return of the King | Aug 24 19:09 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: YouTUbe had good clips | Aug 24 19:09 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] What #Spanair Crash and #BP Disaster Have in Common: #Microsoft #Windows in Alarm Systems http://ur1.ca/188km | Aug 24 19:10 | |
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| schestowitz | Find which channels are worth subscribing to, then you'll get mail with stuff worth watching | Aug 24 19:10 |
| schestowitz | With gnash | Aug 24 19:10 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: LoTR? | Aug 24 19:10 |
| cubevector | schestowitz, yes | Aug 24 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I watched that in the cinema ages ago | Aug 24 19:10 |
| ThistleWeb | does anyone boycott movies where the CGI is made using closed software? | Aug 24 19:10 |
| schestowitz | My sister asked me about films today. I didn't have good answers. | Aug 24 19:11 |
| gnufreex | I knew that it was Microsoft's fault for disaster with BP | Aug 24 19:11 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: MPEG4 | Aug 24 19:11 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: not exactly | Aug 24 19:11 |
| schestowitz | it's Windows' fault for screwing the alarm system | Aug 24 19:11 |
| gnufreex | Well Windows. | Aug 24 19:11 |
| ThistleWeb | no I mean if a film maker chooses to do the CGI on OSX, it's created on closed software | Aug 24 19:11 |
| schestowitz | It would otherwise have prevented it | Aug 24 19:12 |
| cubezzz | me personally? no | Aug 24 19:12 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: usually on Fedora clusters or something | Aug 24 19:12 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't boycott it | Aug 24 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Why boycott? | Aug 24 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Just reward films that do it right | Aug 24 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Big Bucks Bunny... | Aug 24 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Revolution OS maybe... | Aug 24 19:13 |
| cubezzz | make your own film :) | Aug 24 19:13 |
| cubezzz | even better | Aug 24 19:13 |
| ThistleWeb | the grunt work of rendering it is different from the creative process of using the GUI to add the post production | Aug 24 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Bliar Witch Project? | Aug 24 19:13 |
| gnufreex | When disaster happened, I made anonimous tongue-in-the-cheek comment on ComputerworldUK article. Sometihng like: Which OS BP used? It must be Microsoft's fault. I had no idea I would be right. Can't find that article now. | Aug 24 19:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.goldmansachs666.com/2010/08/inside-job-story-about-crash-that-could.html | Aug 24 19:15 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Spoke to Danny Shine today...it transpires we have a mutal friend who works at the same place as me...Im meeting Danny around his house this Thursday. | Aug 24 19:16 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't know me... | Aug 24 19:16 |
| schestowitz | My dad watched his early videos before I did, though | Aug 24 19:17 |
| _Goblin | I mentioned today that you had linked me..... | Aug 24 19:17 |
| _Goblin | and we had quite a good chat on the phone. | Aug 24 19:17 |
| schestowitz | That's why I knew about the "everything is OK" gig | Aug 24 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ahhh, PHPMyAdmin funcionando!!! 100% PCLinuxOS Rules!!! | Aug 24 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did he say anything about Charlie? | Aug 24 19:17 |
| _Goblin | yep | Aug 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Last I heard, he asked Charlie to remove all the vids with Danny in them | Aug 24 19:18 |
| _Goblin | that will need an email to you though.... | Aug 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | That's like only the decent ones | Aug 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Cause Charlie kinds of sucks, just a Alex Jones-influenced Danny wannabe | Aug 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | And I think Charlie brought those videos backs | Aug 24 19:18 |
| _Goblin | as I can't corroborate what he said and it would be unfair for me to publically pass on others opinions without a chance to defend themselves. | Aug 24 19:18 |
| schestowitz | 8back | Aug 24 19:18 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @StephenAtHome: The one thing I'll never understand about calculus is how to do it. Me: I used to. Now, not so much. | Aug 24 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | Danny's repertoire was exhausted in the video anyway | Aug 24 19:19 |
| schestowitz | He passed across his tidbits and I think it was like the last season of Friends or Seinfeld or somethintg | Aug 24 19:19 |
| schestowitz | He became too pricey and it's not like the Simsons where you can just swap voices | Aug 24 19:19 |
| _Goblin | Theres much common ground between Danny and Openbytes.....who knows what will happen when we chat in person! | Aug 24 19:20 |
| _Goblin | and its good to know that a good friend of his does the same thing for a living that I do. | Aug 24 19:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GfXBMxFiE&feature=related | Aug 24 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | For those who have no idea what it's about | Aug 24 19:21 |
| _Goblin | His presentation skills are very good.... | Aug 24 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ahh, PHPMyAdmin is working at full steam! PCLinuxOS Rules!!! | Aug 24 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AIG_BAILOUT?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT gimmick | Aug 24 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: I think it's what he does for a living | Aug 24 19:24 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: nope....well sort of.....he films weddings | Aug 24 19:26 |
| _Goblin | very good reputation from what people have said. | Aug 24 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] this is how not to manage a new OS release for your phone: http://bit.ly/93UtdU /by @nevali | Aug 24 19:27 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: I thought he presented in them too | Aug 24 19:28 |
| schestowitz | The "Love Police" | Aug 24 19:29 |
| schestowitz | "it's not compulsary, we'd like to have a hug" | Aug 24 19:29 |
| _Goblin | yeah....lol... | Aug 24 19:29 |
| _Goblin | I might respect him for his work (whilst I don't agree with it all) he won't be getting a hug.....maybe a british handshake! | Aug 24 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Is there an arrest history yet? | Aug 24 19:30 |
| _Goblin | I didn't ask.... | Aug 24 19:30 |
| _Goblin | I think local press said his case was dropped at court. | Aug 24 19:30 |
| _Goblin | It was a weak sec 5. | Aug 24 19:31 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/24/microsoft_phoenix/ | Aug 24 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Windows glider crashes • The Register .::. Size~: 24.74 KB | Aug 24 19:31 |
| schestowitz | It's not about s/w | Aug 24 19:31 |
| _Goblin | lol | Aug 24 19:31 |
| schestowitz | So I won't touch it... | Aug 24 19:31 |
| _Goblin | I can do a follow up article to "Those Magnificent Softies in their Flying Machines" | Aug 24 19:31 |
| _Goblin | don't worry, it may have crashed but Im sure it will be fixed on Patch Tuesday ;) | Aug 24 19:32 |
| _Goblin | and its not microsofts fault | Aug 24 19:32 |
| _Goblin | its..... | Aug 24 19:32 |
| _Goblin | gravitys fault... | Aug 24 19:32 |
| _Goblin | "it will be better next time" | Aug 24 19:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/24/binary_planting_attack_advisory/ | Aug 24 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft confirms code-execution bug in Windows apps • The Register .::. Size~: 25.29 KB | Aug 24 19:33 |
| schestowitz | That's the latest one | Aug 24 19:33 |
| _Goblin | I think the new channel focus on Techrights has been sucessful....does anyone still go to BN? | Aug 24 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 24 19:36 |
| _Goblin | ah... | Aug 24 19:36 |
| _Goblin | why have they not moved here? | Aug 24 19:36 |
| schestowitz | The other one is for Novell topics | Aug 24 19:36 |
| _Goblin | ah ok... | Aug 24 19:36 |
| _Goblin | I hope I don't miss something then...I liked the idea of having everything in one channel..... | Aug 24 19:36 |
| ThistleWeb | I did wonder at the channels, and why the other one doesnt redirect here | Aug 24 19:38 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] VA investigates VistA EHR open source http://ur1.ca/18964 "Responses to the RFI are due by 1 p.m. on August 25." #EHR #health | Aug 24 19:40 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/careers/3235996/michael-dell-receives-lowest-votes-in-board-elections/ | Aug 24 19:42 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all! | Aug 24 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] rp @segphault: Excellent interview published at Ubuntu User, @kenvandine answers @youinubuntu's questions about !Gwibber http://ur1.ca/17vv6 | Aug 24 19:52 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://spong.com/article/22288/UPDATE-Microsoft-Contests-Kinect-Truly-Dumb-at-Launch | Aug 24 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UPDATE: Microsoft Contests: Kinect Truly Dumb at Launch - News .::. Size~: 23.01 KB | Aug 24 19:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Not only that but the voice chat feature touted at the E3 unveil alongside voice control won't be ready for November 14th." | Aug 24 19:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Kinect is really becoming dumbed down and a product of bait and switch. Lower graphics video camera, no sign language, on now no voice control. | Aug 24 19:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Perhaps the 'Kin' name is approperate. | Aug 24 19:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/08/24/kinect-launching-without-voice-control/ | Aug 24 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kinect launching without voice control | Electricpig .::. Size~: 49.35 KB | Aug 24 19:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Video chat will also be missing on launch, presumably to be turned on ?in due course? as well." | Aug 24 19:58 |
| _Goblin | Kinect lost out to Sony's move at the CVG awards | Aug 24 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/microsoft-plays-for-marketing-dollars-with-ads-on-the-xbox/story-e6frg996-1225908561805 | Aug 24 19:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft plays for marketing dollars with ads on the Xbox | The Australian .::. Size~: 54.98 KB | Aug 24 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "MICROSOFT is selling advertising on the home screen of its Xbox 360 gaming console for the first time." | Aug 24 19:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The ads, which can be seen on the Xbox Live platform on consoles that are connected to the internet, will be displayed as tiles that open up full-screen video or link to a branded destination page featuring downloadable content." | Aug 24 20:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So it uses up your bandwidth as well. | Aug 24 20:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi Goblin! | Aug 24 20:00 |
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| _Goblin | hi! | Aug 24 20:02 |
| _Goblin | sorry, Im having several chats at once! | Aug 24 20:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://kotaku.com/5620481/kinect-controls-work-great-in-a-bubble?skyline=true&s=i | Aug 24 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kinect Controls Work Great... in a Bubble .::. Size~: 73.59 KB | Aug 24 20:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "At the top of the list of issues that Microsoft's Kinect controller for the Xbox 360 faces is the problem of interference from people not in the virtual driver's seat of the console." | Aug 24 20:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "That's a very bad sign, especially with Kinect due out in about three months. The fact that he couldn't tell me what Microsoft would be doing to resolve the issue was an even worse sign" | Aug 24 20:06 |
| MinceR | http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7998 | Aug 24 20:10 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Vaporware annoicement: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Onward-to-Windows-8-Windows-4-0-95-Turns-15-Today-153499.shtml | Aug 24 20:10 |
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| MinceR | (sequoia, not premier/diebold) | Aug 24 20:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "http://news.softpedia.com/news/Onward-to-Windows-8-Windows-4-0-95-Turns-15-Today-153499.shtml" | Aug 24 20:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Onward to Windows 8, Windows 4.0/95 Turns 15 Today - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.33 KB | Aug 24 20:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "According to various third-party sources, the Redmond company plans to release a Beta of Windows 8 in mid-2011, with the RTM of the operating system set for 2012. Microsoft has yet to confirm a timetable for Windows 8 or any details related to the platform, for that matter." | Aug 24 20:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Thinking that Ballmer's plan of releasing a new Windows version every 2 to 2 1/2 years, is in some ways causing many users to resist buying windows. They see the Windows Upgrade Threadmill as an expensive proprosition, with few bennifits. | Aug 24 20:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have to think that MS stategy on its Phone CE based OS, trying it into games, is the best that MS could come up with. Sadly for them, I think most Xbox360 games might not scale so well on the Smartphones. | Aug 24 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just read a bizarre tip for getting !Gwibber Daily to work with Facebook. If this works I'll eat a cheese sandwich. I don't like cheese :) | Aug 24 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/46931012#notice-47299702 "How come Mr.FossPatents blame IBM ???" | Aug 24 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.04 KB | Aug 24 20:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Most likely Android will or already has, gotten great games as well. MS will never catch up at this point. | Aug 24 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yeah | Aug 24 20:18 |
| schestowitz | WIndows360 or Phone7 | Aug 24 20:19 |
| schestowitz | They can't use both numbers | Aug 24 20:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/08/24/businessinsider-microsoft-raise-dividend-2010-8.DTL | Aug 24 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's Flat Stock Needs A Fat Dividend To Grow Again, Says Activist Shareholder (MSFT) .::. Size~: 114.84 KB | Aug 24 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Have Microsoft lawyers copyrighted "360" yet? :-) | Aug 24 20:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | hehe, Windows360CE-me-nt | Aug 24 20:19 |
| gnufreex | You mean trademarked?... Intel couldn't trademark 386 and 486.. so they called 586 a Pentium and trademarked that. schestowitz | Aug 24 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Can;t | Aug 24 20:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It's time for Microsoft to drastically raise its dividend, says Eric Jackson, the founder of hedge fund Ironfire Capital, which owns 12,000 shares of Microsoft. | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/08/24/businessinsider-microsoft-raise-dividend-2010-8.DTL#ixzz0xYMyqd2i | Aug 24 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's Flat Stock Needs A Fat Dividend To Grow Again, Says Activist Shareholder (MSFT) .::. Size~: 108.24 KB | Aug 24 20:21 |
| gnufreex | Microsoft should call their 360 Microcircle | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | He argues it would lift the stock price. He also tells us it would assure investors Microsoft isn't going to make "a big dumb acquisition like RIM or Yahoo. | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/08/24/businessinsider-microsoft-raise-dividend-2010-8.DTL#ixzz0xYND97z6 | Aug 24 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft's Flat Stock Needs A Fat Dividend To Grow Again, Says Activist Shareholder (MSFT) .::. Size~: 113.3 KB | Aug 24 20:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry for the triple paste links | Aug 24 20:21 |
| MinceR | i've heard they called it a pentium because 486+100 on the prototype resulted in 585.999998 :> | Aug 24 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Circle of red LEDs | Aug 24 20:22 |
| schestowitz | They took those off in Slim | Aug 24 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That Gwibber tip didn't work so there's no point relating it - and I don't have to eat cheese :) | Aug 24 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | Carles 360 Slim | Aug 24 20:22 |
| schestowitz | *Carlos | Aug 24 20:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they had chip bugs for floats | Aug 24 20:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | schestowitz> They took those off in Slim" That way they can claim to have fixed the RROD, now its just an 'overheating' problem. | Aug 24 20:25 |
| MinceR | i know | Aug 24 20:26 |
| MinceR | it was in fdiv, though :> | Aug 24 20:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS188745639320100824 | Aug 24 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft BPOS cloud suite hit by access problems| Reuters .::. Size~: 49.53 KB | Aug 24 20:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Access to various Microsoft hosted software products for businesses in North America was affected due to a performance issue with its data center in the region on Monday." | Aug 24 20:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The problem lasted more than two hours, between 8:30 a.m. and 10:45 a.m. U.S. Eastern Time, and impacted "some customers in North America" who experienced "intermittent access to our data center," Microsoft said in a statement." | Aug 24 20:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Now this is scary, M$ designing chips(cpu+gpu) for xbox360, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/08/microsoft-beats-intel-amd-to-market-with-cpugpu-combo-chip.ars | Aug 24 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft beats Intel, AMD to market with CPU/GPU combo chip .::. Size~: 27.78 KB | Aug 24 20:29 |
| schestowitz | IBM | Aug 24 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft doesn't do chips | Aug 24 20:30 |
| schestowitz | It exploited Sony's IBM investment in Cell | Aug 24 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "At Hot Chips today, Microsoft's Xbox team unveiled details of the system-on-a-chip (SoC) that powers the newer, slimmer Xbox 360 250GB model. Produced on the IBM/GlobalFoundries 45nm process, it's fair to say that the new SoC (pictured above) is the first mass-market, desktop-class processor to combine a CPU, GPU, memory, and I/O logic onto a single piece of silicon. The goal of the consolidation was, of course, to lower | Aug 24 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the cost of making the console by reducing the number of different chips needed for the system, shrinking the motherboard, and reducing the number of expensive fans and heatsinks. " | Aug 24 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The SoC also makes the new Xbox design more power efficient, which is nice for consumers, but the real motivation behind boosting the console's efficiency is to reduce the size and cost of the power supply unit, and to realize the aforementioned savings on cooling apparatus." | Aug 24 20:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, so MS can use cheaper smaller cooling fans, and cheaper power supplies. | Aug 24 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I don't like the sound of the word Ebonics. We need a new word for that. | Aug 24 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know what Facebook lists will do in !gwibber? | Aug 24 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How can we get better visibility on the great support that many IRCers provide? http://is.gd/eBiSp #ubuntu #irc #community /by @jonobacon | Aug 24 20:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Articulating IRC Contributions Concisely | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 26.82 KB | Aug 24 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Damn it. Twitter is still messed up | Aug 24 20:34 |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft BPOS cloud suite hit by access problems http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS188745639320100824 and some people think about putting healthcare there? | Aug 24 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft BPOS cloud suite hit by access problems| Reuters .::. Size~: 49.53 KB | Aug 24 20:34 |
| schestowitz | '"While the directors found Hurd had not harassed Fisher, they found improper expense filing..." http://ur1.ca/189sj Sounds fishy' | Aug 24 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP decided Hurd exit ‘before’ actress settlement - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.63 KB | Aug 24 20:34 |
| schestowitz | '#HP decided Hurd exit ‘before’ actress settlement http://ur1.ca/189sj It's just getting more suspicious' | Aug 24 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP decided Hurd exit ‘before’ actress settlement - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.61 KB | Aug 24 20:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, I really doubt the article has it right, and MS did the chip engineering. That they took credit for it, I have no doubt. | Aug 24 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's in xbox7 | Aug 24 20:35 |
| schestowitz | The same ol trash with a new name | Aug 24 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Like "Slim" | Aug 24 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Or "Vista" | Aug 24 20:36 |
| MinceR | or "7" | Aug 24 20:36 |
| MinceR | or "Live" | Aug 24 20:36 |
| MinceR | or "Bing" | Aug 24 20:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Maybe they should call the next version of Vi$ta: Window8-360 ? | Aug 24 20:36 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll call it "Windows 10" | Aug 24 20:37 |
| MinceR | "It's So Brand New And Totally Rewritten, We Bumped It By 3!" | Aug 24 20:37 |
| MinceR | (same bugs as in all winblows nt versions, but with new default colors) | Aug 24 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Para o pessoal do design, toda a plataforma MX está funcional no Linux http://bit.ly/daZg21 , http://bit.ly/aMc3eT | Aug 24 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] For the design folks, the MX platform is fully functional on Linux http://bit.ly/daZg21 , http://bit.ly/aMc3eT | Aug 24 20:37 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WineHQ - Adobe Dreamweaver MX 2004 .::. Size~: 22.83 KB | Aug 24 20:37 |
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| MinceR | as "fully functional" as an adobe product gets? :> | Aug 24 20:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wine runs a lot more stuff lately, the fast pace of wine releases is impressive | Aug 24 20:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Xbox Bing won't work | Aug 24 20:40 |
| schestowitz | It sounds like the sounds xbox 360 makes when it's time for another repair or shower/ | Aug 24 20:41 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 24 20:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think its IBM that made that cpu+gpu chip for the 360 slim | Aug 24 20:41 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <MinceR> maybe they'll call it "Windows 10" | Aug 24 20:41 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: why not Windows OS X? | Aug 24 20:41 |
| MinceR | i guess they'll have to settle for XBox 2160 | Aug 24 20:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: not subtle enough | Aug 24 20:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Winders720 | Aug 24 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Possible though | Aug 24 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: Microsoft does not design chips | Aug 24 20:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This made me laugh Programmer Hierarchy » http://tinyurl.com/2cjh2c6 /by @czajkowski | Aug 24 20:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Programmer Hierarchy ... - Dirks Logbuch .::. Size~: 75.43 KB | Aug 24 20:42 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't sell them either, except in ZUne... Kin (NOT!) and xbox 360 | Aug 24 20:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, but MS wants to design chips. Remember the deal between MS and ARM recently? | Aug 24 20:43 |
| *schestowitz waits to see what Sweaty does with his ARM | Aug 24 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | A partnership for sure | Aug 24 20:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one that has to be a problem for Intel to swallow | Aug 24 20:43 |
| MinceR | what's m$ doing to ARM? | Aug 24 20:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS got a higher licence for ARM | Aug 24 20:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one that would let MS make an propoirtory A | Aug 24 20:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | AMR chip | Aug 24 20:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ARM | Aug 24 20:45 |
| schestowitz | They'll call them Malroy Chips | Aug 24 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Just for the heck of it | Aug 24 20:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe Malformed Chips | Aug 24 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Then they'll take away your wife and daughter and put them in a red ring of death | Aug 24 20:46 |
| schestowitz | With you doing the 'overheating' | Aug 24 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "It's Malroy's fault," they'll quip | Aug 24 20:46 |
| MinceR | what, they want to fry thin slices of Malroy in oil? | Aug 24 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1729411/microsoft-builds-franken-processor | Aug 24 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: no, just a ventilation issue | Aug 24 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft builds a franken-processor - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 56.81 KB | Aug 24 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Heat sink stinks | Aug 24 20:47 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: easily fixed by lifting and dropping the machine a few times? | Aug 24 20:47 |
| MinceR | wait, wrong company | Aug 24 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft worked with Big Blue to devise the system-on-a-chip (SoC), which has 372 million transistors and runs much cooler than IBM and AMD's first Xbox chip." | Aug 24 20:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yep, it was IBM | Aug 24 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "Working with" | Aug 24 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Ordering | Aug 24 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "Roy is working with Burger King to make a nice milkshake" | Aug 24 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I do the ordering | Aug 24 20:48 |
| schestowitz | They do the other small things | Aug 24 20:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I believe that all xbox360 before the 'slim' used Nvidia video chipsets? | Aug 24 20:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | With IBM PPC cpu's? | Aug 24 20:49 |
| schestowitz | me: "The press is misleading with some new PR which says that Microsoft created a major new chip, but it's actually IBM (Microsoft takes credit)" | Aug 24 20:49 |
| cubevector | I hope microsoft didn't make any cpus | Aug 24 20:50 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: in India? | Aug 24 20:50 |
| schestowitz | That's where many Microsoft developers are located/brought from these days. I think the far east has better reputation for fabs and chip design | Aug 24 20:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so the question is, is the Xbox360 slim using an IBM PPC with some sort of IBM video chip combined or an NVIDIA chip? | Aug 24 20:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I would bet on an all IBM chip solution and parts here. | Aug 24 20:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | for the cpu+gpu that is | Aug 24 20:52 |
| schestowitz | IBM has these already | Aug 24 20:53 |
| schestowitz | They reuse what they have in R and D | Aug 24 20:53 |
| schestowitz | And their patents | Aug 24 20:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226900176&subSection=News | Aug 24 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Confirms Windows DLL Hijacking Vulnerabilities -- Microsoft Security -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 83.38 KB | Aug 24 20:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/another-windows-7-slate-dropped-from-this-years-christmas-list/7201 | Aug 24 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Another Windows 7 slate dropped from this year's Christmas list | ZDNet .::. Size~: 142.83 KB | Aug 24 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I have a post about that | Aug 24 20:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | actually, its one of Mary Jo Foley's powder puff pieces for MS with a provocative title only | Aug 24 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/careers/3236117/hp-decided-hurd-exit-before-actress-settlement/ | Aug 24 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP decided Hurd exit ‘before’ actress settlement - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.63 KB | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Expect heads to roll at MSI /sarcasm | Aug 24 20:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "It?s looking more and more as though there won?t be many Windows 7 slates available this holiday season. As I blogged before, sometimes it is better to be late than lame." | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Or both | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Later, absent, and lame | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | *late | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Ask HP... | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Now in turmoil | Aug 24 20:59 |
| schestowitz | After choosing Linux over Vista 7 for Slate | Aug 24 21:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The world cries out for Windows Seven Tablets---NOT! | Aug 24 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 - but it's everyone's IDEA | Aug 24 21:00 |
| schestowitz | THink about the children!! | Aug 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | my idea is to kill winblows | Aug 24 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It was their idea and now MSI say boo-hoo! | Aug 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | indeed, vista7 is another step along that path | Aug 24 21:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS413005311620100820 | Aug 24 21:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developers unhappy over Oracle Android suit| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.39 KB | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | IDG->Reuters now | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | They let themselves be poisoned at Reuters | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Maybe budget cuts | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Notice how Reuters is 0 comments in most articles | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Don't cry for old media though, they struggle as they deserve to | Aug 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | They still have decent archives there predating the Web | Aug 24 21:03 |
| schestowitz | http://vator.tv/news/2010-08-20-facebook-forgets-its-manners-with-developers | Aug 24 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vator.tv - Facebook forgets its manners with developers .::. Size~: 30.06 KB | Aug 24 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Who does Zuck think he is, Jobs? | Aug 24 21:04 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 24 21:04 |
| schestowitz | ttp://techcrunch.com/2010/08/19/facebook-pull-to-refresh/ | Aug 24 21:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/19/facebook-pull-to-refresh/ | Aug 24 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook Apologizes Over Pull To Refresh Code Lift. Attribution Added. .::. Size~: 57.08 KB | Aug 24 21:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is MS using more shills from India these days? | Aug 24 21:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.enterprisemobiletoday.com/news/article.php/3899801/Nokia-Scoops-Up-App-Analytics-Startup-Motally.htm | Aug 24 21:05 |
| schestowitz | Analytics - nice work for "spying" | Aug 24 21:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/08/24/windows.95.anniversary.comes.with.warnings/ | Aug 24 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 95 marks 15th birthday in uncertain Microsoft future | Electronista .::. Size~: 88.87 KB | Aug 24 21:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The company is also now facing long-term threats to its success. Apple and now Google both have much larger presences in the smartphone space where Microsoft has had to scrap Windows Mobile and start fresh with Windows Phone 7 to stay current. Attempts by co-founder Bill Gates and later Steve Ballmer to force acceptance of pen-based Windows tablet PCs have also been undermined almost overnight as the iPad has crushed | Aug 24 21:08 |
| *Chips_B_Malroy has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Aug 24 21:08 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://thoughtsprevail.blogspot.com/2007/03/microsoft-really-loves-bloggers.html&usg=AFQjCNG8u7SVLkW_ols9OGfdc1gMtrJbJA | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft really loves Bloggers !!! | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | Microsoft regularly flies customers and industry experts to its | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | campus in Washington to listen to the feedback given by those | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | people.The company invites dozens of key customers and partners | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | to the event,where they spend brainstorming as a group.But as of | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | late, Microsoft has changed it's strategy and the company is | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | making extensive use of blogs to get direct customer feedback. | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | Within a year,more than 1000 Microsoft employee blogs featured | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | developers and product managers talking directly to customers every | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | day, instead of once a year.Microsoft employees read dozens of | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | blogs every day to see how customers react to Microsoft products | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | and services. In fact,Microsoft employees have taken a bigger leap | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | and even contribute to other's blogs in the expanding space of | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | | Blogosphere. | Aug 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | `---- | Aug 24 21:08 |
| *Chips_B_Malroy (~username@nv-76-3-157-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Aug 24 21:12 | |
| _Goblin | lol | Aug 24 21:12 |
| _Goblin | this is good: | Aug 24 21:12 |
| _Goblin | "For the record, I am trying harder. I could take the easy route and call you a disgusting fat body, but I’m sure you’ll agree that I’m trying to keep things on a higher level. I’ll continue to selectively comment anytime I wish until you break down and start moderating comments. You’re welcome!" | Aug 24 21:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is that Robotron? | Aug 24 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: what happened? | Aug 24 21:14 |
| schestowitz | You missed my answer: | Aug 24 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft really loves Bloggers !!! | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | Microsoft regularly flies customers and industry experts to its | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | campus in Washington to listen to the feedback given by those | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | people.The company invites dozens of key customers and partners | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | to the event,where they spend brainstorming as a group.But as of | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | late, Microsoft has changed it's strategy and the company is | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | | making extensive use of blogs to get direct customer feedback. | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | http://thoughtsprevail.blogspot.com/2007/03/microsoft-really-loves-bloggers.html | Aug 24 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Himanshu's Blog - Technology, Entrepreneurship & Business: Microsoft really loves Bloggers !!! .::. Size~: 25 KB | Aug 24 21:15 |
| schestowitz | India | Aug 24 21:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, I figured that MS would move more of its shilling to India, everything cheaper there | Aug 24 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: the robotroll systematically ruins pro-FOSS blogs like tghis | Aug 24 21:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bad news for Costa I guess | Aug 24 21:16 |
| schestowitz | When done/banned, the robotroll proceeds to next target | Aug 24 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they have a 'hit list' :-) | Aug 24 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Pogson got their attention too | Aug 24 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: nope | Aug 24 21:17 |
| schestowitz | "Have mouse pad, will travel" [costa] | Aug 24 21:17 |
| schestowitz | "Have many nyms, will symshift once exposed" [costa] | Aug 24 21:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, he will and has | Aug 24 21:18 |
| schestowitz | She | Aug 24 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Please. | Aug 24 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Lucy is a police lady, don't imply it's a filthy dude | Aug 24 21:18 |
| schestowitz | 8polite | Aug 24 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmerites | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Snyder? | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Connie? | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer married from W-E | Aug 24 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Lucy | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Marketing liars | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Fitting. | Aug 24 21:19 |
| schestowitz | She too can jump and yell, but it doesn't make good PR | Aug 24 21:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | here's one for Goblin a completely M$ " | Aug 24 21:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Shill site in India, with no commenting turned on http://www.itvoir.com/portal/boxx/knowledgebase.asp?iid=1966&Cat=23 | Aug 24 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will Microsoft re-create magic with Windows 8? - IT articles, Hardware & Software, Computer vendors in India, IT industry in India : Latest IT News .::. Size~: 145.18 KB | Aug 24 21:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the article will make you sick | Aug 24 21:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | worse than Costa on drugs | Aug 24 21:21 |
| schestowitz | itvoir, yeah.... | Aug 24 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Weird one | Aug 24 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Tough call though | Aug 24 21:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ishita Blaggan | Aug 24 21:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | M$ Shill | Aug 24 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Blaggan? | Aug 24 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Sounds fake | Aug 24 21:23 |
| schestowitz | It's like a real-pseudo journalist who goes by the name "journy" | Aug 24 21:24 |
| schestowitz | http://thoughtsprevail.blogspot.com/2007/03/microsoft-really-loves-bloggers.html | Aug 24 21:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Himanshu's Blog - Technology, Entrepreneurship & Business: Microsoft really loves Bloggers !!! .::. Size~: 25 KB | Aug 24 21:24 |
| schestowitz | bloggers=cheaper to buy | Aug 24 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Esp. outside the West | Aug 24 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Some are literature in ENglish, so they get their money's worth | Aug 24 21:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, bloggers are the easiest to outsource | Aug 24 21:27 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/10/22/microsoft-bribes-mac-bloggers/ | Aug 24 21:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Bribes Mac Bloggers to Slam Apple, Gartner Hosts Google FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.18 KB | Aug 24 21:28 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: sorry had a phonecall | Aug 24 21:30 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: yep thats Robotrol | Aug 24 21:30 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: shame is, I can now quote that at the top of his posts from now on. | Aug 24 21:31 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: and for the record (for Robotrol) Im not fat...Im festively plump | Aug 24 21:32 |
| MinceR | http://img.waffleimages.com/dda0cc5354f0c43e55331a5bc2a4912624c427bc/snow_leotard.jpg | Aug 24 21:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: Doing the right thing with privacy on Facebook and LinkedIn - http://strom.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/facebook-privacy/ #fb | Aug 24 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Zorgloob: Votre Android n'est pas insubmersible ? Pas de souci, vous pouvez quand même aller sous l'eau avec http://bit.ly/bu76BU | Aug 24 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Petr Kovar: Living with legacy hardware http://bit.ly/bdiwiQ | Aug 24 21:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Time to update your Facebook and LinkedIn privacy settings « David Stroms Web Informant .::. Size~: 36.16 KB | Aug 24 21:32 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | when the shills have nothing else left, they go to insulting the messinger | Aug 24 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin, thats obviously where Robotron has gone | Aug 24 21:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he would rather make you the topic of conversation, than MS | Aug 24 21:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sweaty B is maintaining a low profile lately | Aug 24 21:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is why he should not be let off the hook easily | Aug 24 21:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin>fear not, when the M$ shills attack you, it only means you are on the right track. MS and its OEM's fears those who write about getting a refund. Mostly the only way to get that refund is to make a nuecence of yourself with the OEM, to the point they would just rather pay you $50 than to have you keep tieing up their phone lines. | Aug 24 21:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Cheaper to pay you, than to talk with you for hours. | Aug 24 21:42 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it's going to make getting them pay the m$ tax back easier ever | Aug 24 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Only in some EU countries is it possible to win in small claims courts, I think France, maybe | Aug 24 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> doesn't sound like it's going to make getting them pay the m$ tax back easier ever" thats the whole point from MS point of view, to make it as impossilbe as can be | Aug 24 21:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if it was easy to get that refund, we know most linux users would opt for it, and most windows pirates would too,( which is 22% of the market just for windows pirates) Now that would make the Borg bleed badly | Aug 24 21:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | higher than 22% in other counties too | Aug 24 21:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so you really going for the vein here, Goblin | Aug 24 21:49 |
| MinceR | we need laws/lawsuits to stop this tying practice | Aug 24 21:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | tieing, bundling, monopoly antitrust infraction, whatever you want to call it. But the reality is, MS owes the US gov and many of your govs too. | Aug 24 21:50 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: I enjoy Robotroll since I can put my messages across which in themselves don't justify an article.... | Aug 24 21:50 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: Robtroll tries to play clever...I think we have had conversations about clever via email..... | Aug 24 21:51 |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: unfortunately (in a different way) I am well used to people trying to get the better of me in my real job...Robotroll is not that good. | Aug 24 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/46900826#notice-47314975 "SAP buying Red Hat ??? :-/" | Aug 24 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | "thanks, me too! fixing the patent promise is getting more and more urgent" | Aug 24 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] #Borg adapts: ♻ @praxagora: "#Microsoft…retract[s] criticism of open source ow.ly/2tYRm I think this shows move from licensing to SaaS" | Aug 24 21:57 | |
| schestowitz | @jwildeboer I agree with @lxoliva . #RedHat must get a _legal_ contract diffusing its #swpats ASAP. I never trusted Red Hat's patents | Aug 24 21:58 |
| schestowitz | They need something binding | Aug 24 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Learning from SUN for example | Aug 24 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Surprise, surprise - mention of getting a Windows 7 refund on OpenBytes brings out the troll.. !microsoft !windows !linux !foss | Aug 24 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] They will love then the "how-to" for getting a refund on Microsoft products. !microsoft !windows !windows7 !visa !xp | Aug 24 22:02 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> your article on getting the refund is more interesting in its own right than the shills that comment | Aug 24 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So heres how the !Windows7 refund is coming along. It appears that Acer need to collect the PC (to ensure non-usage I assume) | Aug 24 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Im now challenging that on the grounds that the software has not been activated so obviously has not been used...I'll keep you updated | Aug 24 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Having said that, worst case scenario is I let them have the machine for a few days. | Aug 24 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @fontana Slides from my #linuxcon talk "Contribution Policies for Open Source Projects" are at http://ref.fedorapeople.org/fontana-li ... | Aug 24 22:07 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: http://frugalware.org/news/182 | Aug 24 22:07 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | now if too many people tried to get a refund, they would stop giving refunds IMO | Aug 24 22:08 |
| schestowitz | DOesn't matter | Aug 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | it needs to be done once | Aug 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Then they HAVE to serve the next person | Aug 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Acer doesn't like WIndows anyway | Aug 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | It's the precedence game | Aug 24 22:09 |
| schestowitz | If it was gone quietly it would possibly be more successful until it's accomplished | Aug 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Some people get refunds UNDER DNA!! | Aug 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | NDA | Aug 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | In .cz IIRC | Aug 24 22:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed, it has to be donw | Aug 24 22:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | done | Aug 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | "here, have some money, just don't tell anyone that they too deserve it" | Aug 24 22:10 |
| schestowitz | We can push many people to buy from Acer | Aug 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Only to ask for it to have no OS :-) | Aug 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | And then DDOS them with refund requests till they realise, "hey, we ca n just sell OS-less machines or Linux" | Aug 24 22:11 |
| schestowitz | DDOS in the metaphorical sense | Aug 24 22:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I say let them put Freedos and all the windows krapware on the hard drive, like Norton etc | Aug 24 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Many machines to pick up | Aug 24 22:12 |
| schestowitz | And they won't bother checking anymore,just send refunds | Aug 24 22:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so we get the krapware money back | Aug 24 22:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | truth is, it should be a choice of hard drives when you buy a laptop | Aug 24 22:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and prices | Aug 24 22:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | one a blank drive, another with winders on it | Aug 24 22:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and the blank drive should be at least $50 cheaper | Aug 24 22:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS is the problem, for all the antitrust that happened, you know they really enforce this without a written agreement that windows will be on all machines | Aug 24 22:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | in retail stores that is | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3236522/computer-glitch-hits-barclays-accounts/ | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | WIndows? | Aug 24 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Computer glitch hits Barclays’ accounts - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 62.97 KB | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | "According to the Press Association, the problem is believed to have been caused by a power failure." | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Somehow I believe them | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: or CD | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Suggested before | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | You have a blank HHD | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | And WIndows CD | Aug 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Image | Aug 24 22:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that way it should be, agreed | Aug 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | With craplets if they wish | Aug 24 22:16 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/d4yk9/facebook_blocks_ads_for_pot_legalization_campaign/ | Aug 24 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | You choose whether to get it with the machine | Aug 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | If not, then you put Linux distro of your choice | Aug 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: can be literally a one-click install | Aug 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | put in Windows CD, press power | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | That's it | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Wait one hour | Aug 24 22:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you can bet if that happened, MS would make its newest winders easier to install | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | No "too hard to do" with an _IMAGE_ | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft would not let Kroes do it | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | What a joke | Aug 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | [22:17] <Chips_B_Malroy> you can bet if that happened, MS would make its newest winders easier to install | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | The tyhing is, making it hard helps Windows | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Makes OEMs insist on installing it on all PCs | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | PLUS | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Makes people afraid of exploiting aother OS | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft won't even make available a bootloadeer | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | "it's too hard" :-) | Aug 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Just GNU can do it (GRUB) | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft knows how to wipe grub, though | Aug 24 22:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | first of all, MS really dosen't want people to have an cd/dvd anymore. MS has looked at how their friends (RIAA) does things in the music industry, and likes people to forget to make that DVD. So MS gets to resell the Windows OS more often | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | They're good at that | Aug 24 22:19 |
| zoobab | if there is an antitrust complain to make, it has to be on the OEM scandal | Aug 24 22:19 |
| zoobab | to be made | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | France had one | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Against HP in 2007 | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Nothing came out of iut | Aug 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | *it | Aug 24 22:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the antitrust complaint has to be made in many countries at the same time, to have a greater chance of suceeding | Aug 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Someone called David in Belgium contacted the commission | Aug 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | He was a journalist at the time, unable to find ANY laptop without Windows XP there | Aug 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | People seem to have given up on refund/OEM fights | Aug 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Some years ago | Aug 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe cause Dell bundles Ubuntu and more are doing Android/ChromeOS | Aug 24 22:21 |
| schestowitz | But there's still no choice for laptop/desktop | Aug 24 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Not much for sub-notebooks either, not anymore in Western countries | Aug 24 22:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, you probably going end up with more phone bills (long distance) than money back if you win | Aug 24 22:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and MS knowns this | Aug 24 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] 15 seconds of uptime before a crash? – Yep thats Microsoft http://tinyurl.com/3yvobhf !microsoft !mvp !windows !xp !crash !bsod !fail | Aug 24 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Don't waste your time with Robotron. That chap is sick. Simple as that | Aug 24 22:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 15 seconds of uptime before a crash? Yep thats Microsoft! « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 37.41 KB | Aug 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: see/ | Aug 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Told ya! | Aug 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | He was banned in Techrights for attacking commenters and others last year | Aug 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Then created like 7 more accounts | Aug 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Banned for nymshifting | Aug 24 22:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Still, MS fears the refund articles, cause the next question is always why not a blank hard drive at $50 to $100 less | Aug 24 22:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mutex? | Aug 24 22:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mutex=Robotron | Aug 24 22:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | my guess | Aug 24 22:25 |
| cubevector | Mutex is back? | Aug 24 22:25 |
| gnufreex | Who's mutex? | Aug 24 22:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So is DaemonFC gone for now? He did on occasion have some interesting stuff to add here. | Aug 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: nope | Aug 24 22:26 |
| gnufreex | He had a granade to add. | Aug 24 22:26 |
| cubevector | why can't people just be normal? | Aug 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: not, afaik | Aug 24 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he called us gnutards | Aug 24 22:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mutux was a Linsux Troll, which is most likely an site sponsered by M$, but cannot be proved, as its hidden well | Aug 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | lin4win | Aug 24 22:27 |
| schestowitz | WHat ever happened with that? | Aug 24 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Sometimes, it's nice to do behind-the-scenes work in the FLOSS world that'll never be recognized as your own work. Anonymous volunteering++. | Aug 24 22:27 | |
| cubevector | lots of pro-Linux sites though | Aug 24 22:29 |
| cubevector | way more than anti-linux sites | Aug 24 22:29 |
| cubevector | those anti-Linux guys are mostly just clowns | Aug 24 22:29 |
| gnufreex | Chips_B_Malroy: Microsoft have few evangelists on linusux.org, and they set agenda. But Microsoft doesn't fund whole site. | Aug 24 22:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | how do you know? | Aug 24 22:30 |
| gnufreex | I have cought some nymshifters on some sites. | Aug 24 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | who is behind linsux | Aug 24 22:31 |
| gnufreex | I don't know for sure. | Aug 24 22:31 |
| gnufreex | They are bunch of retards, there is nothing behind | Aug 24 22:31 |
| cubevector | not very knowledgeable either | Aug 24 22:31 |
| gnufreex | But they atract anti-linux crowd | Aug 24 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think the funding comes from MS, they hide behind being BSD users, but talk about Windows all the time | Aug 24 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are fakes | Aug 24 22:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and flakes | Aug 24 22:32 |
| gnufreex | I think Frak guy is Microsoft evangelist. | Aug 24 22:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Just like Andre Da Costa is a MS Shill | Aug 24 22:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes I wonder if he does that just for fun or he's paid for... | Aug 24 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes If he gains nothing, he's really sick. | Aug 24 22:32 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | his site, is just like a MS just the fact site | Aug 24 22:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/hosted/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=226900049&subSection=News | Aug 24 22:33 |
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| cubevector | whatever, I've seen the Microsoft side of the tracks, and I don't want to be there | Aug 24 22:33 |
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| MinceR | good, at least others won't have that kill switch | Aug 24 22:33 |
| MinceR | i hope they'll sue google over it, forcing them to take it out of android | Aug 24 22:33 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] RIAA President Says Copyright Law "Isn't Working" http://bit.ly/9oUkeI | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Ticketmaster Says People Don't Like Service Fees Because We Don't Understand Them http://dlvr.it/4C0JT | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @georgevhulme: RT @EFF: Jury Invalidates One of EFF's 'Most Wanted' Patents http://eff.org/r.4qd Me: Bye-bye Bright Response. | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #HP decided Hurd exit ‘before’ actress settlement http://ur1.ca/189sj It's just getting more suspicious | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] "While the directors found Hurd had not harassed Fisher, they found improper expense filing..." http://ur1.ca/189sj Sounds fishy | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] How can we get better visibility on the great support that many IRCers provide? http://is.gd/eBiSp #ubuntu #irc #community | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Samsung Galaxy Tablet Coming In September http://bit.ly/9leM3Y | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft BPOS cloud suite hit by access problems http://ur1.ca/18a8x and some people think about putting healthcare there? | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Brazilian Technobrega Musicians Embracing Free Distribution Even More http://dlvr.it/4C50y | Aug 24 22:33 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most likely bought, paid for, and set up by MS, for a poor Jamican to run it. Its a front, and so is Linsux | Aug 24 22:33 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Having lunch and catching up on Severed Fifth - come join our chat channel at #severedfifth on Freenode or http://is.gd/eBkYT | Aug 24 22:33 | |
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| gnufreex | He regularly bashes Ubuntu on Ubuntu forums, he bashes GPL and promotes Mono. Other linusuxers support them. But they can't form a sticky argument without him | Aug 24 22:33 |
| cubevector | whoa | Aug 24 22:33 |
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| cubevector | a 10 sec delay may be in order | Aug 24 22:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 24 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 24 22:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Critiques en Belgique après la publication du dossier Dutroux sur WikiLeaks | AFP http://bit.ly/any0Vg | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Great to see the Severed Fifth community getting out and spreading the word! http://is.gd/eBlK7 #severedfifth | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] The press is misleading with some new PR which says that Microsoft created a major new chip, but it's actually IBM (Microsoft takes credit) | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Awesome Severed Fifth CD designs being made by the community: http://is.gd/eBm4L http://soc.li/GJdFTwa #severedfifth | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Jouråklagaren anmäls för brott mot sekretessreglerna http://bit.ly/cnxrGp | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Facing Afghan mistrust, al-Qaeda fighters take limited role in insurgency | WaPo http://bit.ly/cyVkOT | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Toyota Adds External Speakers To Warn Pedestrians http://bit.ly/aQ2aMe | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @jeremyfoshee: @jonobacon I present for your viewing pleasure: http://is.gd/eBoaR -- amazing! | Aug 24 22:34 | |
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| schestowitz | Twitter is a mess today | Aug 24 22:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gnufreex> I think we had a netsplit | Aug 24 22:34 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] For some odd reason I have no more access to MSN, neither friends have access to my MSN account. No matter what OS/client I use :-( | Aug 24 22:34 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] I love the fact that technology allows something stupid (http://is.gd/eqyiO) to be made even more stupid (http://is.gd/eBq0D) | Aug 24 22:34 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | so Frat guy is the one you think runs Linsux? | Aug 24 22:35 |
| gnufreex | I am not sure. He is very loud. | Aug 24 22:35 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] False Charges Ricochet in the War on WikiLeaks | Harpers http://bit.ly/9kb10N | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Some Modest Proposals To 'Save' Other Industries http://dlvr.it/4CCXT | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer I agree with @lxoliva . #RedHat must get a _legal_ contract diffusing its #swpats ASAP. I never trusted Red Hat's patents | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] ♻ @praxagora: "#Microsoft…retract[s] criticism of open source ow.ly/2tYRm I think this shows move from licensing to SaaS" | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Richest Planetary System Discovered With 7 Planets http://bit.ly/9CQSfQ | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @BarbaraKrasnoff: Trip down memory lane: CRN tries to resurrect COMDEX as a virtual trade show. Virtual Vegas? http://bit.ly/aVMWMQ | Aug 24 22:35 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Wasn't ther an earlier failed attempt to bring Comdex back as a virtual show? | Aug 24 22:35 | |
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| gnufreex | Mr Psychopath runs Linsux officialy (he is an admin) | Aug 24 22:35 |
| schestowitz | I think twitter is synching up | Aug 24 22:35 |
| gnufreex | There is Mr Psychopath and Mr Sane | Aug 24 22:36 |
| gnufreex | That is same guy | Aug 24 22:36 |
| gnufreex | You get the gist. | Aug 24 22:36 |
| gnufreex | Double personality. | Aug 24 22:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gnufreex> Mr Psychopath runs Linsux officialy (he is an admin)" aptly named I might point out btw | Aug 24 22:36 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: same guy, I think | Aug 24 22:36 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Yes, he admited that on FS daily | Aug 24 22:37 |
| gnufreex | Sane and Psychopath is same guy. | Aug 24 22:37 |
| cubevector | I have some stuff I'll probably offer to GNU later this year | Aug 24 22:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sir Sane was here for awhile infesting the irc | Aug 24 22:38 |
| cubevector | heh, no shortage of nutbars | Aug 24 22:38 |
| cubevector | but lots of good folks too | Aug 24 22:38 |
| gnufreex | Who are good folks... on Linsux? | Aug 24 22:41 |
| cubevector | on IRC in general | Aug 24 22:41 |
| cubevector | not linsux | Aug 24 22:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cubevector> heh, no shortage of nutbars" well thats the question, isn't it? Are they nutbars, or are they M$ Shills? Would nutbars or fanboi's be so secretive about their site and names? Microsoft would be if behind them. Shills have commonly used the crazy mentality to make readers think that they are not associated with MS. Look at Costa for example. | Aug 24 22:41 |
| cubevector | well if they are Microsoft Shills they aren't very smart about it | Aug 24 22:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The objectives of MS Shills is to spread FUD about others products | Aug 24 22:42 |
| gnufreex | Chips_B_Malroy: I beleive that majority of them are nut-cases and they really beleive in their crap. But those few who set the tone are probably paid. | Aug 24 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] That said,I'll take some credit for something else: !Conservancy helped !jQuery get venue contract for BOS Conf: Register now: bit.ly/a5NqOG | Aug 24 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith He's useful for reinforcing the point that all I advocate are the best solutions for me and those are not !microsoft | Aug 24 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Readers may draw inference from the fact that Robotron seems so determined to ruin a post about a !microsoft !windows7 refund. | Aug 24 22:42 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they don't have to score every point, only enough FUD to stop others from changing OS | Aug 24 22:42 |
| gnufreex | That is what they are doing on UF. | Aug 24 22:43 |
| gnufreex | They claim they are fighting zealots | Aug 24 22:43 |
| gnufreex | And moderators give them free pass. | Aug 24 22:43 |
| gnufreex | And help the too. | Aug 24 22:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even a statement like "you have to compile a cd player" in linux, might have some people who have never tried linux, believing it. (Costa-MS Watch) | Aug 24 22:43 |
| schestowitz | zealots=people who are pro-Linux | Aug 24 22:44 |
| *OsamaK_ (~Osama@fsf/member/osamak) has joined #techrights | Aug 24 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | WHat are people who are pro-WIndows? | Aug 24 22:44 |
| schestowitz | "normals"?" | Aug 24 22:44 |
| cubevector | dozers :) | Aug 24 22:44 |
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| gnufreex | And then it turned out that they streched definition of zealots, like roy said above. | Aug 24 22:44 |
| cubevector | just lazy really | Aug 24 22:44 |
| gnufreex | All who are not hating Linux. | Aug 24 22:44 |
| cubevector | people too lazy to change | Aug 24 22:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, later guys | Aug 24 22:44 |
| cubevector | later | Aug 24 22:45 |
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| cubevector | most people just follow the crowd | Aug 24 22:45 |
| cubevector | is McDonalds the best restaurant? :) | Aug 24 22:45 |
| cubevector | :-P | Aug 24 22:45 |
| gnufreex | Yes, most people are folowing the crowd. And Linsuxers are "THE CROWD" on ubuntu forums. | Aug 24 22:46 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Searching For Backdoors From Rogue IT Staff http://bit.ly/drlEMI | Aug 24 22:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot IT Story | Searching For Backdoors From Rogue IT Staff .::. Size~: 47.53 KB | Aug 24 22:46 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: call "crowd control" | Aug 24 22:46 |
| schestowitz | ask _Goblin for help | Aug 24 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes And what would that be ? He's a masochist ??? ;-D | Aug 24 22:47 | |
| cubevector | BeOS got crushed, but Linux will prevail, I have no doubts | Aug 24 22:47 |
| gnufreex | _Goblin. Help! | Aug 24 22:47 |
| _Goblin | hi! | Aug 24 22:47 |
| _Goblin | Goblin customer services, how can I help? ;) | Aug 24 22:48 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: What should _Goblin help me? | Aug 24 22:48 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: What should _Goblin help me _with_ ? | Aug 24 22:48 |
| _Goblin | I can give you a new "l33t" handle if you like ;) | Aug 24 22:48 |
| _Goblin | or tell you about Linsux'rs....spent some time talking to them.... | Aug 24 22:49 |
| gnufreex | http://linsux.org/forum/index.php?/topic/4533-rules-of-this-fucking-board/page__s__eccfe4a339ac098dc4c6973827af2609 | Aug 24 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rules of this Fucking Board - Linsux.org .::. Size~: 122.04 KB | Aug 24 22:49 |
| gnufreex | This is funny | Aug 24 22:49 |
| cubevector | are they all teenagers or something? | Aug 24 22:49 |
| _Goblin | I would hope so. | Aug 24 22:50 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Russian-US talks: Afghan War Diary confirms Russian fears http://bit.ly/boLsVC | Aug 24 22:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Главные новости часа | Лента новостей "РИА Новости" .::. Size~: 1.39 KB | Aug 24 22:50 |
| gnufreex | Linsuxes get following on Ubunut forums because they desperatly trying to be kewl. And Ubunut users who hang on UF are kids usualy | Aug 24 22:50 |
| cubevector | can't remember before the dozer era | Aug 24 22:50 |
| cubevector | too young | Aug 24 22:51 |
| cubevector | I sure can remember when windows started it's creeping horror | Aug 24 22:51 |
| cubevector | in the early 90's | Aug 24 22:51 |
| _Goblin | I havent been to the Ubuntu forums for years... | Aug 24 22:52 |
| _Goblin | not really one for forums | Aug 24 22:52 |
| _Goblin | even COLA holds little interest since the desperate Wintrolls offer no new material. | Aug 24 22:52 |
| gnufreex | Here is how they plot new "super secret projects" http://linsux.org/forum/index.php?/topic/7590-super-secret-project/ | Aug 24 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Super Secret Project - Linsux.org .::. Size~: 204.29 KB | Aug 24 22:53 |
| cubevector | I hang out here and in #linuxhelp and #coreboot | Aug 24 22:53 |
| _Goblin | mind you COLA is great for showcasing what happens when a viable alternative to Microsoft products is mentioned.... | Aug 24 22:53 |
| cubevector | it's always civil | Aug 24 22:53 |
| cubevector | mostly :) | Aug 24 22:53 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks to release CIA paper tomorrow. | Aug 24 22:53 | |
| gnufreex | Here is his blog, if someone can track him http://blog.verysofisticated.com/ | Aug 24 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith and the fact that you notice that shows the worth in engaging people like Robotron in conversation. | Aug 24 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes How come he defends M$ ? And attacks a guy trying to show how to get the bux back ? He's against his own folks ? | Aug 24 22:57 | |
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| gnufreex | That is meain linsuxer | Aug 24 22:57 |
| gnufreex | *main | Aug 24 22:57 |
| gnufreex | That is the Frak guy | Aug 24 22:58 |
| gnufreex | This it the one that got bitchslaped by Shuttleworth http://www.fewt.com/ | Aug 24 22:58 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] How Should Facebook Respond To The Social Network Movie? http://dlvr.it/4CLCh | Aug 24 23:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Should Facebook Respond To The Social Network Movie? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.22 KB | Aug 24 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes And aligning with the corporations ? WTF ?!?! | Aug 24 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith I think Robotron's motive is known only to himself...and even then they get confused.... | Aug 24 23:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/46946474#notice-47316801 "@schestowitz The existing #Red_Hat Patent Promise is, effectively, a legal contract with those who rely on it, but I understand your point." | Aug 24 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 14.32 KB | Aug 24 23:03 |
| schestowitz | "@fontana maybe the patents of #Red_Hat can be sold to some outside foundation immune to takeover? Pieter's warnings made sense, Sun's too" | Aug 24 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Now we talk with Red Hat's lawyers | Aug 24 23:06 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] New conference packs for #locoteams - http://is.gd/eBzjW #ubuntu | Aug 24 23:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Czajkowski » Blog Archive » New Conference packs for LoCo Teams .::. Size~: 21.71 KB | Aug 24 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Troll headline IMHO: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/203910/dont_count_on_oracle_to_keep_openofficeorg_alive.html?tk=hp_new | Aug 24 23:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 66.08 KB | Aug 24 23:08 |
| schestowitz | More FUD: http://ostatic.com/blog/is-openoffice-next-in-oracles-proprietary-plan | Aug 24 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is OpenOffice Next In Oracle's Proprietary Plan? .::. Size~: 49.3 KB | Aug 24 23:12 |
| schestowitz | With question mark, obligatory | Aug 24 23:12 |
| gnufreex | Do those idiots ever research before writtting that garbage? OpenOffice is best protected. It is not trademarked (you don't even need to change name of the fork) and it is released under LGPLv3, with very good patent clause. LGPLv3 hs GPLv3 patent clause since it is set of permisions on top of GPLv3 | Aug 24 23:14 |
| schestowitz | The devs welcomed donations | Aug 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2009/04/an-open-letter-to-larry-ellison-about-openofficeorg.html | Aug 24 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenOffice.org Training, Tips, and Ideas: An Open Letter to Larry Ellison about OpenOffice.org .::. Size~: 79.95 KB | Aug 24 23:15 |
| schestowitz | I could use support here: http://identi.ca/conversation/46946474#notice-47316801 | Aug 24 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 16.88 KB | Aug 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat ought to shelter its nukes (swpats) | Aug 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Now that shareholders/board would allow | Aug 24 23:16 |
| schestowitz | swpats add to rht's value | Aug 24 23:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/203941/requiem_for_an_os_opensolaris_board_closes_shop.html | Aug 24 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Requiem for an OS: OpenSolaris Board Closes Shop - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 62.58 KB | Aug 24 23:17 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014478-264.html | Aug 24 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lacking Oracle help, OpenSolaris group disbands | Deep Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 95.85 KB | Aug 24 23:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS293639102720100824 | Aug 24 23:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Requiem for an OS: OpenSolaris board closes shop| Reuters .::. Size~: 47.43 KB | Aug 24 23:26 |
| schestowitz | SLowLarry's | Aug 24 23:26 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I would help you but I am not on identica. But here is and idea anyways: Red Hat could make contract tha says that in case of takeover, new owner loses patents. | Aug 24 23:27 |
| gnufreex | RHT patents that is. | Aug 24 23:27 |
| gnufreex | But that would be guned down by shareholders | Aug 24 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Yep! I'll be back at #peppermint very soon to chat with you all...been very busy over the last few weeks! | Aug 24 23:27 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: could | Aug 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | It hasn't though | Aug 24 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/mobile-wireless/3236573/mobile-operators-expect-apps-to-be-main-revenue-source/ | Aug 24 23:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mobile operators expect apps to be main revenue source - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.37 KB | Aug 24 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Works OK for FOSS | Aug 24 23:31 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Oracle forms new 'axis of evil' against open source, claims Adobe http://ur1.ca/18d83 Wait, Adobe speaks for FOSS now?! | Aug 24 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle forms new 'axis of evil' against open source, claims Adobe • The Register .::. Size~: 24.51 KB | Aug 24 23:34 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 24 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] NewsBytes – Tuesday 24th August 2010 http://tinyurl.com/33ls2lo !microsoft !kinect !xbox360 !acslaw !p2p | Aug 24 23:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NewsBytes – Tuesday 24th August 2010 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 38.24 KB | Aug 24 23:47 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/r50Je/ | Aug 24 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Tomboy and Zeitgeist in action .::. Size~: 5.23 KB | Aug 24 23:52 |
| schestowitz | argh... | Aug 24 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wow.Peppermint still climbing in the Distrowatch charts (31) and its one of only a handful of distro's still climbing! Well done Peppermint! | Aug 24 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Fedora-14-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso uploaded : http://bit.ly/bjxhtD !linux !fedora !foss | Aug 24 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora-14-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso at LinuxTracker .::. Size~: 75.79 KB | Aug 24 23:52 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] UVB-76 Broadcasts New Voice Message http://bit.ly/bR6EiX | Aug 24 23:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot News Story | UVB-76 Broadcasts New Voice Message .::. Size~: 46.93 KB | Aug 24 23:55 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- Weather man gives everyone the finger *original live... http://youtu.be/jaAaCIrsaak?a | Aug 24 23:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Weather man gives everyone the finger *original live version* .::. Size~: 101.66 KB | Aug 24 23:56 |
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