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| Jookia | Could it be to the point that he wants Microsoft to fail for GNU/Linux? | Aug 28 00:00 |
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| sebsebseb | Jookia: maybe | Aug 28 00:00 |
| ThistleWeb | I've been saying that too, a Save Monkeyboy Facebook page | Aug 28 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | Jookia: there was something about getting rid of him earlier this year or last year | Aug 28 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | about maybe getting rid of him | Aug 28 00:01 |
| Jookia | Meh | Aug 28 00:01 |
| Jookia | I hope he turns ut to be a GNU/Linux spy | Aug 28 00:01 |
| Jookia | Or agent or whatever. | Aug 28 00:01 |
| gnufreex | Who, Balmer? | Aug 28 00:01 |
| Jookia | Yeah. | Aug 28 00:01 |
| gnufreex | No way. | Aug 28 00:01 |
| gnufreex | He is propriatary zealot | Aug 28 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | GNU/Linux spy? someone who likes Linux a lot | Aug 28 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | and works for MS you mean? | Aug 28 00:02 |
| Jookia | I dunno | Aug 28 00:02 |
| Jookia | I just can't see somebody of his intellect running a monopoly. | Aug 28 00:02 |
| Jookia | Yeah, I know how you're about to say that he's failing instead of running it. | Aug 28 00:03 |
| cubevector | who? | Aug 28 00:05 |
| cubevector | Ballmer? | Aug 28 00:05 |
| Jookia | Yeah. | Aug 28 00:05 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: sorry I was afk...If Mono does live on in some distro's I think that in the future it will only be until a distro needs to purge the deadwood in the interests of saving space... | Aug 28 00:05 |
| cubevector | he's money hungry | Aug 28 00:05 |
| cubevector | control hungry | Aug 28 00:05 |
| MinceR | ballmer's been there since the beginning | Aug 28 00:05 |
| cubevector | almost crazy | Aug 28 00:05 |
| MinceR | almost? | Aug 28 00:06 |
| _Goblin | Ballmers the most entertaining thing about Microsoft...I'll be sorry when he goes... | Aug 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | i won't be sorry if he takes m$ with him | Aug 28 00:06 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 28 00:06 |
| _Goblin | nn | Aug 28 00:06 |
| cubevector | imagine having 10 billion dollars and still wanting to f**king kill google | Aug 28 00:06 |
| _Goblin | (see I remembered) | Aug 28 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok gn | Aug 28 00:06 |
| cubevector | what kind of mind is that? | Aug 28 00:06 |
| Jookia | He has 10 billion dollars? | Aug 28 00:06 |
| cubevector | yeah | Aug 28 00:06 |
| Jookia | Couldn't he just quit Microsoft and live a good life? | Aug 28 00:06 |
| _Goblin | aww bless him... | Aug 28 00:06 |
| cubevector | he could... | Aug 28 00:07 |
| _Goblin | ego | Aug 28 00:07 |
| Jookia | I dunno, he should quit while he's ahead. | Aug 28 00:07 |
| _Goblin | people like that don't like to loose...Im sure if given the chance he would drive Microsoft into the ground just to try to "ein" | Aug 28 00:07 |
| _Goblin | *win | Aug 28 00:07 |
| _Goblin | and its already happening...like at the Kin spectacle...that alone would have given most people the bullet. | Aug 28 00:08 |
| gnufreex | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s | Aug 28 00:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Ex-Microsoft employee remembers the last sound he heard at Microsoft: Bing! .::. Size~: 99.99 KB | Aug 28 00:08 |
| _Goblin | I think that vid is a spoof | Aug 28 00:08 |
| _Goblin | It was talked about here a few months ago. | Aug 28 00:08 |
| _Goblin | I can't check it though at the moment...have a problem with 64bit flash. | Aug 28 00:09 |
| Jookia | I want to go to one of his public conferences and throw some kind of beverage at him. | Aug 28 00:09 |
| _Goblin | Using tinyogg...but Im messing with my browser settings at the moment. | Aug 28 00:09 |
| _Goblin | oh and gnash has been a total #fail with youtube at present. | Aug 28 00:10 |
| gnufreex | It wont make the difference. He would sweaty anyways | Aug 28 00:10 |
| Jookia | Sweaty is an understatement | Aug 28 00:10 |
| Jookia | He carries portable fountains | Aug 28 00:10 |
| _Goblin | See....money can't buy everything....He may have 10 bill but he can't buy a antipersirant that works. | Aug 28 00:10 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 28 00:10 |
| Jookia | You'd think that a man with 10 billion dollars could buy some hair.. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| Jookia | Or a decent hat. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| MinceR | perhaps he just doesn't care. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| Jookia | He acts like the Joker, not caring about anything. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| _Goblin | with his sweaty head hats and wigs just slide off. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| cubevector | he cares about moola :) | Aug 28 00:11 |
| gnufreex | Perhaps throwing chairs is only thing that make him happy. | Aug 28 00:11 |
| _Goblin | you mean....moola moola moola | Aug 28 00:11 |
| Jookia | How could he possibly get that much sweat? | Aug 28 00:12 |
| Jookia | What from?! | Aug 28 00:12 |
| _Goblin | oh and 10 bill can't make him count....."Ive got 4 words for ya....I love this company, yeah..." - Er Ballmer, thats five. | Aug 28 00:12 |
| cubevector | I...love...this...company..... yearrrrgfghhhh! | Aug 28 00:13 |
| Jookia | I love how Windows XP has multi-user support | Aug 28 00:13 |
| cubevector | then his throat got sore :) | Aug 28 00:13 |
| Jookia | As a feature | Aug 28 00:13 |
| _Goblin | Windows has features? - I'll have to check that one out...it will be worth an article if I find any ;) | Aug 28 00:14 |
| cubevector | well, at least Ballmer is funny | Aug 28 00:14 |
| _Goblin | agreed | Aug 28 00:14 |
| gnufreex | I heard that Microsoft owns some carpenter shop | Aug 28 00:14 |
| gnufreex | To make enough chairs | Aug 28 00:14 |
| gnufreex | for Balmer | Aug 28 00:14 |
| Jookia | I watched the Windows Xp ad | Aug 28 00:14 |
| Jookia | HILARIOUS | Aug 28 00:14 |
| gnufreex | And to make Windows | Aug 28 00:14 |
| cubevector | did you see the Windows 1.0 ad? | Aug 28 00:15 |
| Jookia | Ballmer was holding money going '$500?! $1000?!' | Aug 28 00:15 |
| cubevector | he's been crazy for over 20 years | Aug 28 00:15 |
| Jookia | I bet they were actual $500 and $1000 bills. | Aug 28 00:15 |
| ThistleWeb | carpenter shop? to emphasise the link to the most fanous hippy in history? | Aug 28 00:15 |
| Jookia | Just throwing them around. | Aug 28 00:15 |
| gnufreex | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk | Aug 28 00:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube- Ballmer sells windows1.0 .::. Size~: 94.54 KB | Aug 28 00:15 |
| Jookia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA Bill Gates and a Monkey | Aug 28 00:16 |
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| cubevector | he had slightly more hair in the windows 1.0 days | Aug 28 00:16 |
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| gnufreex | ThistleWeb: I am sorry, I am not native english speaker... I thought that carpenters make chairs and Windows. | Aug 28 00:17 |
| gnufreex | *windows | Aug 28 00:17 |
| cubevector | the comments are funny too... OH MY GOD REVERSI! | Aug 28 00:18 |
| ThistleWeb | capernters work with wood, so yeah chairs and tables | Aug 28 00:18 |
| ThistleWeb | I think anyway | Aug 28 00:18 |
| ThistleWeb | the original hippy, JC was a carpenter | Aug 28 00:18 |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Aug 28 00:18 | |
| ThistleWeb | apparently | Aug 28 00:18 |
| Jookia | Steve Jobs is an asshole. | Aug 28 00:19 |
| ThistleWeb | ya got me confused, joiners also work with wood.....maybe different genres | Aug 28 00:19 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe joiners are the finishing guys, where carpenters are the rough stuff like floorboards | Aug 28 00:20 |
| _Goblin | "Jesus was a hippie, he had long hair and didnt have a job." - Arnold Rimmer, Red Dwarf | Aug 28 00:20 |
| Jookia | Reminds me of an awesome guy | Aug 28 00:21 |
| _Goblin | :) | Aug 28 00:21 |
| _Goblin | if you are talking about Ace.....its "What a guy.." | Aug 28 00:21 |
| Jookia | No | Aug 28 00:22 |
| Jookia | Mr. Stallman | Aug 28 00:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] 'one tiny flaw in a slide can halt a general's thought processes as abruptly as a [#windows #bsod]' http://bit.ly/bBKNJj #war #afghanistan | Aug 28 00:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Australia Once Again Decides You Have No Freedom To Tinker With Your Gaming Console http://dlvr.it/4Ls67 | Aug 28 00:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Second #Microsoft Co-founder Becomes a Patent Troll Just Like Bill Gates, Sues Microsoft Competitors http://ur1.ca/1bp0t #swpats | Aug 28 00:22 | |
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| _Goblin | lol | Aug 28 00:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Australia Once Again Decides You Have No Freedom To Tinker With Your Gaming Console | Techdirt .::. Size~: 20.32 KB | Aug 28 00:22 |
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| _Goblin | doh | Aug 28 00:22 |
| _Goblin | although it can still apply to RMS..... | Aug 28 00:22 |
| WireWulf | afternoon | Aug 28 00:22 |
| cubevector | Paul Allen? | Aug 28 00:22 |
| _Goblin | hi! | Aug 28 00:22 |
| *WireWulf is saddly on the doze | Aug 28 00:23 | |
| _Goblin | oh well...could be worse... | Aug 28 00:23 |
| _Goblin | actually.... | Aug 28 00:23 |
| _Goblin | no it couldn't | Aug 28 00:23 |
| _Goblin | sorry to hear that mate. | Aug 28 00:23 |
| cubevector | WireWulf, how come? | Aug 28 00:24 |
| WireWulf | debaiting on why linux overheats my lil MSI lappy here | Aug 28 00:24 |
| cubevector | no cpu throttling? | Aug 28 00:25 |
| WireWulf | possible | Aug 28 00:25 |
| WireWulf | doesn't seem to be the CPU or ram load | Aug 28 00:26 |
| gnufreex | WireWulf: Install lm-sensors | Aug 28 00:26 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex, good solution | Aug 28 00:26 |
| WireWulf | will nexxt time i start in linux land again | Aug 28 00:26 |
| *WireWulf <3's linux land | Aug 28 00:26 | |
| cubevector | you know what's odd... my cpu seems too cold | Aug 28 00:27 |
| cubevector | +27.7°C | Aug 28 00:27 |
| cubevector | seems wrong | Aug 28 00:27 |
| cubevector | then it says SYS Temp: +33.0°C | Aug 28 00:28 |
| gnufreex | My CPU stuck on core to 27 C | Aug 28 00:28 |
| WireWulf | i have no issue with a cold CPU | Aug 28 00:28 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] PowerPoint Rant Costs Colonel His Job http://bit.ly/crZfHe | Aug 28 00:28 | |
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| gnufreex | Others vary, but one core is stuck on 27 forever | Aug 28 00:28 |
| cubevector | which cpu do you have? | Aug 28 00:28 |
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| gnufreex | Intel Q9650 | Aug 28 00:28 |
| cubevector | mine's a p3 800 mhz | Aug 28 00:28 |
| WireWulf | intel celeron t3100 | Aug 28 00:29 |
| WireWulf | dual core 1.8GHz intel | Aug 28 00:29 |
| gnufreex | Kewl | Aug 28 00:29 |
| cubevector | my other p3 550 is always around 65 C | Aug 28 00:29 |
| WireWulf | and x86_64 so bloated asm wise | Aug 28 00:29 |
| cubevector | doesn't make any sense why a faster p3 would be cooler | Aug 28 00:30 |
| gnufreex | x86 is bloated altoghether | Aug 28 00:30 |
| gnufreex | I hope I live to see x86 dead and burried | Aug 28 00:30 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex, after playing in the RISC based ultrasparc server i agree | Aug 28 00:30 |
| cubevector | gnufreex, get a Sun pizza box | Aug 28 00:30 |
| gnufreex | Where to get it? | Aug 28 00:31 |
| cubevector | ebay | Aug 28 00:31 |
| gnufreex | They don't ship in Serbia | Aug 28 00:31 |
| cubevector | or a University maybe | Aug 28 00:31 |
| gnufreex | I had luck to mess with AlphaCluster at work, but they dismantled that... | Aug 28 00:32 |
| cubevector | there's a program called cpulimit I think | Aug 28 00:32 |
| cubevector | lots of used stuff around though | Aug 28 00:33 |
| cubevector | svn checkout https://cpulimit.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cpulimit/trunk cpulimit | Aug 28 00:33 |
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| gnufreex | What is the story on ARM laptops... is there any? | Aug 28 00:35 |
| cubevector | yeah | Aug 28 00:36 |
| cubevector | netwalker and touchbook come to mind | Aug 28 00:36 |
| gnufreex | I can't find any. But I am not interested in netbooks. I want 15" | Aug 28 00:36 |
| gnufreex | screan | Aug 28 00:36 |
| gnufreex | screen* | Aug 28 00:36 |
| WireWulf | seen a 64bit dual core ppc CPU a week ago | Aug 28 00:36 |
| cubevector | WireWulf, cpulimit --exe bigloop --limit 40 | Aug 28 00:36 |
| cubevector | that might help you | Aug 28 00:37 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, new Amigas are going to use those WireWolf | Aug 28 00:37 |
| cubevector | 40% limit | Aug 28 00:37 |
| cubevector | or just use nice | Aug 28 00:37 |
| WireWulf | cubevector, yeah my net spider goot that in hits | Aug 28 00:37 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex, i seen one that was getting ready for laptops | Aug 28 00:38 |
| gnufreex | http://www.a-eon.com/ | Aug 28 00:38 |
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| WireWulf | which seems interresting | Aug 28 00:38 |
| _Goblin | Right Im off...gn... | Aug 28 00:39 |
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| gnufreex | WireWulf: Is it 64-bit ? | Aug 28 00:39 |
| cubevector | I guess touchbook is only 8.9" screen | Aug 28 00:39 |
| cubevector | yeah, Amiga X1000 is not cheap | Aug 28 00:40 |
| gnufreex | I like PPC because it is big endian | Aug 28 00:40 |
| gnufreex | ARM is litle endian | Aug 28 00:40 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex, yup 64bit | Aug 28 00:40 |
| gnufreex | Do you know what lapops are going to use it? I want one! | Aug 28 00:41 |
| gnufreex | That was probably AMCC Titan | Aug 28 00:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Its rapidly approaching my time for bed....Have written quite alot on Openbytes today.. A productive day! Goodnight all! | Aug 28 00:42 | |
| WireWulf | i have not heard witch | Aug 28 00:42 |
| WireWulf | or even what OS | Aug 28 00:42 |
| WireWulf | but i have heard that one of my clients is thinking of seitching to the laptops | Aug 28 00:43 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] wow, Paul Allen even looks #evil. #swpat #swpatents #patents | Aug 28 00:44 | |
| gnufreex | Damn Apple bought PA Semi just to kill their PWRficient CPU | Aug 28 00:46 |
| gnufreex | It would be great now. | Aug 28 00:46 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z "which corporation" isn't a choice. And when you're done with that non-choice, deal with the binary party system non-choice. #wtf | Aug 28 00:46 | |
| gnufreex | But Apple bought the company and people left and started another company | Aug 28 00:46 |
| WireWulf | yup | Aug 28 00:46 |
| gnufreex | Now Google bought them | Aug 28 00:46 |
| gnufreex | And killed the chip | Aug 28 00:46 |
| WireWulf | intel | Aug 28 00:47 |
| WireWulf | will be your ruler | Aug 28 00:47 |
| WireWulf | with the x86 and x86_64 nuttery | Aug 28 00:47 |
| gnufreex | Those guys (from PA Semi) now work on DSPs for VP8 at Google | Aug 28 00:48 |
| gnufreex | And some moved to Tilera. | Aug 28 00:48 |
| cubevector | welcome to monopoly-land | Aug 28 00:49 |
| cubevector | wintel everywhere | Aug 28 00:50 |
| WireWulf | comeing soon Apple-soft systems | Aug 28 00:51 |
| WireWulf | inc | Aug 28 00:51 |
| WireWulf | A$$ inc will fuck everybody into a computer monopoly | Aug 28 00:51 |
| gnufreex | Apple will probably lock down Macs like they locked down iPhone | Aug 28 00:51 |
| gnufreex | eventualy | Aug 28 00:51 |
| gnufreex | And still claim it's open. | Aug 28 00:52 |
| WireWulf | and sheppll will belieave them | Aug 28 00:52 |
| WireWulf | M$ and apple could merge tomarrow and everyone would cheer | Aug 28 00:54 |
| WireWulf | OS X 10.7 was reported to have native M$ compadiblity | Aug 28 00:56 |
| WireWulf | meaning all your fav M$ programs will now work on mac | Aug 28 00:57 |
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| gnufreex | Really? Mac is now Windows knock off, after for years claiming that is another way around... | Aug 28 01:00 |
| gnufreex | I have been reading on Paul Allen lawsuit. He sued all Microsoft competitors but left out Microsoft Bing. | Aug 28 01:01 |
| gnufreex | It is clear that it is proxy. | Aug 28 01:01 |
| gnufreex | Same way will be with Mono when Microsoft decides to sue. | Aug 28 01:01 |
| WireWulf | M$ wants total control it is wail noticed | Aug 28 01:02 |
| WireWulf | all computers with that registery virus | Aug 28 01:02 |
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| WireWulf | g2g laterz yo | Aug 28 01:05 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] תקשיב ימים נשברים של עפרה חזה עכשיו. | Aug 28 02:32 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Listening to the legendary "Broken Days" album by Ofra Haza. Love it! | Aug 28 02:33 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Rupert Murdoch's Anti-Fair Use Comments Used Against Him In Court Yet Again http://dlvr.it/4M3y9 | Aug 28 02:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Eheheh, Downloading a romset of ZX Spectrum, to test Puppy Arcade 9 ;-) | Aug 28 02:57 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] I bought $8k worth of hardware from @zareason & was happy RT @grantbow: RT @jonobacon: On Zareason - http://is.gd/eHsfr | Aug 28 03:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @lwnnet Google bails out of JavaOne http://lwn.net/Articles/402540/rss I think everybody ought to bail on #SCOracle One | Aug 28 03:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @dsearls: Microsoft Co-Founder Paul Allen Sues, Apple, Google & Nine Other Giants http://cnt.to/meC | Aug 28 03:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @cdibona: Sadly, we won't be able to attend JavaONE. For reasons why, see here: http://bit.ly/9Oq0qR | Aug 28 03:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @sjvn: Upgrading to Windows 7 isn't Cheap http://bit.ly/c1cNbt in the corporate world | Aug 28 03:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #PS3Jailbreak is banned in AUS. They won't be able to ban it in the US, right @eff? !EFF | Aug 28 04:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Hailstorm took out ATT DSL over at least 5 miles area. #netwithdrawals #networkdown | Aug 28 05:12 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[anivar] RT @nixxin: RT @rajivdingra: I noticed for the first time that there was no row no.13 in my kingfisher plane. From 12 it directly went to 14 | Aug 28 05:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @AntoniaZ RT @montrealsimon: The #census fiasco, registry, madness http://tinyurl.com/36y2g46 #cdnpoli // We have to get rid of the Cons. | Aug 28 05:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I have a dream. | Aug 28 05:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lothlaurien New article: Uptown Waterloo's 22nd annual Busker Carnival. Photos! Escape artist Rob Roy Collins was great! http://www. ... | Aug 28 05:57 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] 1999: Paul Allen cleared in sex harassment case http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/09/20/paul_allen_cleared_in_sex/ | Aug 28 06:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/08/why-every-internet-user-in-west-must.html | Aug 28 06:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/08/are-apple-macs-running-ubuntu-as-well.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29 | Aug 28 06:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @copyrightgirl Duke University: "What everybody knows" - stronger !copyright protection inhibits learning http://www.ur1.ca/1c2j2 !fixc32 | Aug 28 07:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @q4td “How come Steve Jobs liver can be replaced, but the battery in my iPod can’t be?” — Julias Shaw #Q4TD !q http://j.mp/dd4VDI | Aug 28 07:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Crosbie Those who exploit !copyright and #patent today will be regarded in a few decades as we regard those who exploited slavery. | Aug 28 07:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Singapore national service regimen could learn a thing or two from the IDF about entrepreneurship. http://ur1.ca/1c2n9 #fb | Aug 28 07:12 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @lxoliva linux-libre.fsfla.org is back up, now (finally) running #linuxlibre. thanks to FSF sysadmins for helping with the switch | Aug 28 07:23 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Skipping Traditional Recruitment, Going Straight To the Source http://bit.ly/auwpXk | Aug 28 07:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2010/08/24/full-body-scan-technology-deployed-in-street-roving-vans/ | Aug 28 07:36 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Comic Sans [IMG] http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1264_signs.jpg | Aug 28 07:39 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/08/and-we-thought-we-had-it-bad.html | Aug 28 07:55 |
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| oiaohm | Really schestowitz you miss something. It has be pushed for babies to be finger printed to prevent mix ups. | Aug 28 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes that would work but if the records were kept for good it would make tracking people so many time simpler. | Aug 28 07:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/27/google-ends-phone-support-nexus/ | Aug 28 07:58 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/26/commodore-usa-announces-the-pc64-an-atom-powered-pc-in-a-replic/ Oboy | Aug 28 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Commodore USA announces the PC64, an Atom-powered PC in a replica Commodore case -- Engadget .::. Size~: 69.94 KB | Aug 28 08:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith excellent stuff! | Aug 28 08:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 28/8/2010: #ZFS for Linux, Bordeaux 2.0.8 for !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/1c4el !techrights #roundup | Aug 28 09:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen sues Google, Apple, Facebook, eight others over patents http://bit.ly/cjWlah #linux | Aug 28 09:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Fresh Rumours/Speculations About #VMware Buying #Novell http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/mystery-acquirer/ #suse | Aug 28 09:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft Can't Compete in Phones, Wants to Control !Linux Phones Instead http://ur1.ca/1bmi5 #android #mono #swpats | Aug 28 09:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @charlietca1: Having issues with Grub2 and Windows boot? Please read this: http://2tu.us/2m1g !ubuntu !xubuntu | Aug 28 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: [Vidéo] Comparaison des écrans AMOLED et SLCD du HTC Desire : http://androidphone.free.fr/spip.php?article691 | Aug 28 09:17 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 28/8/2010: #ZFS for Linux, Bordeaux 2.0.8 for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/1c4el #techrights #roundup | Aug 28 09:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] “Looks Like #Microsoft is Doing Damage Control on Virus Attacks” http://ur1.ca/1c4lr #security | Aug 28 09:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Evilest step by Microsoft - Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes http://www.theonion.com/articles/microsoft-patents-ones-zeroes,599/ #crap | Aug 28 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Native ZFS Is Coming To Linux Next Month http://is.gd/eHYpu | Aug 28 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Is your company afraid of Linux? (1 of 3) http://is.gd/eHYvk #gnu #linux #fs | Aug 28 09:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Pearson #Education - You will NOT use #Linux http://is.gd/eHYBB #gnu | Aug 28 09:27 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linuxaria Is your company afraid of Linux? (1 of 3) : Linuxaria .::. Size~: 32.79 KB | Aug 28 09:27 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #SCO Cheapskates and the Growing Irrelevance of the Case http://ur1.ca/1c52v #novell #ibm #scoracle #unix | Aug 28 09:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Audacious 2.4.0 – New release! http://tinyurl.com/33ufb2m !audacious !linux !foss !mp3 | Aug 28 09:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @openbytes: Audacious 2.4.0 – New release! http://tinyurl.com/33ufb2m #audacious #linux #foss #mp3 #ogg | Aug 28 10:22 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] [OT] Its time to boycott Microsoft and its Product : Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes http://tinyurl.com/2cz3dbr #blog | Aug 28 10:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Patents Kill, So Let’s Just Kill Them http://ur1.ca/1c5xh Let’s just get rid of patents (especially software patents) | Aug 28 10:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Kodak's 1975 Digital Camera http://bit.ly/9SxfKW | Aug 28 10:24 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @charlietca1: Having issues with Grub2 and Windows boot? Please read this: http://2tu.us/2m1g #ubuntu #xubuntu | Aug 28 10:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Lawsuit Against the LHC Overthrown - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Lawsuit-Against-the-LHC-Overthrown-154098.shtml !lhc | Aug 28 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @rsandu ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft Can't Compete in Phones, Wants to Control !Linux Phones Instead http://ur1.ca/1bmi5 #android #mono ... | Aug 28 10:37 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft a Major Breeding Ground of Patent Trolls http://ur1.ca/1c6gc How we know that Myhrvold, Gates, and Allen are patent trolls | Aug 28 10:39 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: Danny's friend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcihLv1bL6Q | Aug 28 10:42 |
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| _Goblin | just waiting for Tinyogg and then I'll see it! | Aug 28 10:44 |
| _Goblin | (cant even get gnash to operate in place of Flash) | Aug 28 10:44 |
| _Goblin | and morning Roy.... | Aug 28 10:45 |
| _Goblin | :) | Aug 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz | Tinyogg's founder is here most of the time | Aug 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Scary thoughts from Mac Asay? http://www.opensources.com/2010/08/24/open-core-naysayers-celebrate-proprietary-software/ | Aug 28 10:52 |
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| schestowitz | This guy is running Canonical?!! | Aug 28 10:52 |
| schestowitz | http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/2010_08_23_OGB_Agenda | Aug 28 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://gigaom.com/2010/08/25/can-open-source-be-saved-from-itself/ | Aug 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | Matt.. you are still blogging? | Aug 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz | I thought you are done with your anti-free software crap already. You are wrong on so many levels that it’s not even funny anymore. | Aug 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Another Mac Asay piece... | Aug 28 11:00 |
| _Goblin | I'll have to read that.... | Aug 28 11:01 |
| _Goblin | btw Roy, thanks for all the links over the last few days. | Aug 28 11:01 |
| _Goblin | had some great emails as a result....made some new friends from readers of Techrights who have been linked to me. | Aug 28 11:02 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: just watched the love police vid....disgraceful....filming in a public place? I may be rather dubious of Charlies well being but to be spoken to like that by the security guard is out of order.... | Aug 28 11:06 |
| _Goblin | I never thought I'd say this.... | Aug 28 11:11 |
| _Goblin | society is broken. | Aug 28 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A sad indictment of society? http://tinyogg.com/watch/8a77h/ | Aug 28 11:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: The Love Police vs. Jumped Up Security Guard at Shell HQ .::. Size~: 5.28 KB | Aug 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: some guards like that like to pose for ego | Aug 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz | They check how far they can go with the fluorescent-like jacket | Aug 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz | The police usually says footage can be used by terrorists | Aug 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz | But then again, it would not hard for them to even use Google Street View | Aug 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz | THey don't need soms random YouTube clip | Aug 28 11:22 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] RedHat is sponsoring 1 day seminar on "Software Patents and the Commons" 1 sept at Delhi. Organised by SFLC, Knowledge Commons & CSI #swpat | Aug 28 11:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Apple dump SurfaceInk over potential hypePad rival demo http://ur1.ca/1c7hb Apple does not like #Linux competition | Aug 28 11:29 | |
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| MinceR | j0 | Aug 28 11:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/technology/24hewlett.html?partner=rss&emc=rss | Aug 28 11:41 |
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| schestowitz | v | Aug 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techcrunchit.com/2010/08/27/the-bidding-war-for-3par-continues-hp-offers-2-billion-in-cash/ | Aug 28 12:34 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Creative Commons: a user guide http://tinyurl.com/277omuq #blog | Aug 28 12:34 | |
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| amarsh04 | _Goblin, gnash-plugin 0.88 has worked for me playing youtube videos on Debian/AMD64 | Aug 28 12:43 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] This one smells like anti(ish)-Linux from ElReg: http://ur1.ca/1c9tk "Nothing gets the Linux crowd more riled..." | Aug 28 12:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell Streak GPL snub enrages Android fans • The Register .::. Size~: 26.13 KB | Aug 28 12:44 |
| MinceR | ElReg is anti-GNU/Linux? well, i never! | Aug 28 12:46 |
| MinceR | and anti-free sw | Aug 28 12:46 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] One source that I usually rely on is Reuters, but increasingly they import 'content' from IDG, which is not good. | Aug 28 12:47 | |
| schestowitz | "freetads..." | Aug 28 12:47 |
| schestowitz | "Fans" in this case | Aug 28 12:47 |
| schestowitz | *tards | Aug 28 12:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft Silverlight -> Linux? -> Redirecting...hmmm... http://ping.fm/RdHe7 | Aug 28 12:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Indian admins love Linux, stuck on Windows: ZDNet AU: "Linux and open source ruled the conversation during ZDNet A... http://bit.ly/9GrgQc | Aug 28 12:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Today - Indian admins love Linux, stuck on Windows .::. Size~: 76.81 KB | Aug 28 12:48 |
| schestowitz | What's the deal with SILNER's link? Silver Lie ad? ಠ_ಠ | Aug 28 12:49 |
| MinceR | moonlie ad. | Aug 28 12:50 |
| MinceR | i gave it the downboat. | Aug 28 12:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Hollywood Sues Advertiser at Movie Piracy Sites - http://tinyurl.com/2au4wrd -Wow,original thinking by Disney and Warner? Still will #fail | Aug 28 12:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hollywood Sues Advertiser at Movie Piracy Sites | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 35.71 KB | Aug 28 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Regtards | Aug 28 12:54 |
| MinceR | regards | Aug 28 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/8/26/464 You have to give it to Greg KH at times | Aug 28 13:12 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Want a pay raise? *Scrub* that vagina! http://is.gd/eIcbL | Aug 28 13:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] @schestowitz dude, the Reg are page-count trolls. You just got trolled. Well done. | Aug 28 13:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] The Literati E-Reader arrives in full Color in October http://ur1.ca/1cakn "It is running on a custom Linux operating system" | Aug 28 13:24 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Gartner: Upgrading to Windows 7 will cost between $1,274 and $2,069 per machine. http://bit.ly/9Vdp92 Good argument for Linux | Aug 28 13:24 | |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://is.gd/eIcbL | Aug 28 13:27 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Backs Out of JavaOne http://bit.ly/cCVGYe | Aug 28 13:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | Google Backs Out of JavaOne .::. Size~: 48.32 KB | Aug 28 13:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/t/mobile-platforms/dell-responds-calls-opening-streak-code-sort-443 | Aug 28 13:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell responds to calls for opening Streak code -- sort of | Mobile platforms - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 89.89 KB | Aug 28 13:28 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @davidgerard yes, but it used to be just The Inquirer, now both. | Aug 28 13:30 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Rumors of SAP, Red Hat merger viewed as a longshot http://ur1.ca/1cb48 #FUD #RedHat | Aug 28 13:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Winshuttle News Rumors of SAP, Red Hat merger viewed as a longshot .::. Size~: 21.41 KB | Aug 28 13:31 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Reading Software Patents and the Commons -- Concept Note and Agenda on Scribd http://scr.bi/aI6JUS #readcast | Aug 28 13:33 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Redstar rolls out Shogo Linux-powered tablet http://ur1.ca/1cb9c http://ur1.ca/1cb9e #linux | Aug 28 13:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shogo Linux Tablet - Redstar rolls out Shogo Linux-powered tablet .::. Size~: 29.84 KB | Aug 28 13:38 |
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| MinceR | http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/27/reddit-conde-nast-cheezburger/ | Aug 28 13:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ben Huh Asks: I Can Haz Reddit? (Offers To Buy It From Condé Nast) .::. Size~: 69.53 KB | Aug 28 13:49 |
| MinceR | what, they named a tablet pc after an FPS game? :> | Aug 28 13:49 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] is there any import tool present for slideshare to scribd. I liked scribd a lot as it use html5. scribd is much better for document sharing. | Aug 28 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/47423730#notice-47801182 "@schestowitz If Red Hat and VMware did join forces, Rod Johnson and Gavin King had to work in the same office. :-) #muhahaha #mergesfromhell" | Aug 28 13:57 |
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| schestowitz | Who is King? | Aug 28 13:57 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Shogun? | Aug 28 13:58 |
| schestowitz | ReddEAT[en] | Aug 28 13:58 |
| MinceR | Shogo | Aug 28 13:58 |
| schestowitz | If Reddit got sold.. | Aug 28 13:58 |
| MinceR | it was sold long ago | Aug 28 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Then expect more special interviews with Myhrvold | Aug 28 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Like Gizmodo... not RMS | Aug 28 13:59 |
| MinceR | perhaps The Cheezburger Network would be more lenient than Conde Nast. | Aug 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Gotta pay ze bills | Aug 28 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Cheezburger might want to sell your profile to advertisers in HUNGARY.... monetise your reading :-< | Aug 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz | http://cheezburger.com/ | Aug 28 14:02 |
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| MinceR | and only they? | Aug 28 14:03 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] 50% percent of user who try to join LUG@IITD mailing list do not answer 3+4 = ?. I always reject them. | Aug 28 14:24 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] DW: Getting away with it. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/541985.html | Aug 28 14:24 | |
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| oiaohm | Gavin King VMWare java lead. And Rod Johnson is redhats and they don't see eye to eye at all. schestowitz | Aug 28 14:32 |
| oiaohm | If vmware and redhat did merge the explosion in that office could be something you could sell tickets to. | Aug 28 14:33 |
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| gnufreex | Red Hat and VMware to merge? | Aug 28 14:39 |
| gnufreex | That would be bad | Aug 28 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Not at this stage. | Aug 28 14:39 |
| gnufreex | Why not? | Aug 28 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Remember we have a many way battle. | Aug 28 14:39 |
| gnufreex | VMware has microsofties | Aug 28 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Oracle vs VMware is going to be interesting. | Aug 28 14:40 |
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| gnufreex | If Red Hat buys VMware, that would be good. | Aug 28 14:40 |
| gnufreex | But imposible | Aug 28 14:40 |
| gnufreex | Right now | Aug 28 14:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you mean opposite? | Aug 28 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Isn't Rod Johnson from SpringSource? | Aug 28 14:41 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/22349737521 "they should remain independent. At one point I dreamed of a Red Hat-Sun alliance. It´d have been nice. :-/" | Aug 28 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | No SAP merger either http://twitter.com/mohanpram/statuses/22349722088 | Aug 28 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/22349698516 "Red Hat has always been a positive force and influence on the open source movement, as was Sun Microsystems" | Aug 28 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, Sun was very beneficial. OOo esp. | Aug 28 14:43 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/22349648195 "the financial pundits often have their heads up their ass. I remember when some advocated Sun to "stick with hardware, drop sw"" | Aug 28 14:44 |
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| oiaohm | Opps I got them backwards. schestowitz | Aug 28 14:44 |
| oiaohm | But the explosion in the office would be epic. | Aug 28 14:44 |
| gnufreex | What office? | Aug 28 14:44 |
| oiaohm | The section of redhat that handles java development. | Aug 28 14:45 |
| gnufreex | AHa | Aug 28 14:45 |
| gnufreex | I didn't know they call it that | Aug 28 14:45 |
| gnufreex | It is JBoss at Atlanta? | Aug 28 14:45 |
| gnufreex | I tend to think that Red Hat should buy Alfresco right about now | Aug 28 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Really Redhat should be looking at a hardware builder. | Aug 28 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Ew... | Aug 28 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Not Alfrewsco | Aug 28 14:47 |
| gnufreex | You mean to enter harware? Why? | Aug 28 14:47 |
| schestowitz | it's 'open' core | Aug 28 14:47 |
| schestowitz | It also has "SCO" in the name | Aug 28 14:47 |
| schestowitz | And Mac Asay used to work there | Aug 28 14:47 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I know but it can be opensourced | Aug 28 14:48 |
| schestowitz | It's better than proprietary, but lower than Red hat's level of openness | Aug 28 14:48 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: redhat is at the mercy of device builders. | Aug 28 14:48 |
| gnufreex | So you think they should buy one? | Aug 28 14:48 |
| oiaohm | By being in the device builder game they could release there own phones and so on that work perfectly with there OS. | Aug 28 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Ie so allowing end to end intergration. | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | Why Red Hat and phones | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | ? | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | That doesn't go together | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | When you said hardware, I thought something like Netezza | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat could buy that | Aug 28 14:49 |
| oiaohm | I am talking business solutions. gnufreex | Aug 28 14:49 |
| gnufreex | You mean PDAs and such? | Aug 28 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Aug 28 14:50 |
| gnufreex | I am failing to see how it would pay off... | Aug 28 14:50 |
| gnufreex | but it just might | Aug 28 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Its more of presure play. | Aug 28 14:50 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat is not big enough to play those games. | Aug 28 14:51 |
| oiaohm | If redhat is not supported from those devices by other makers they could loss sales to redhat. | Aug 28 14:51 |
| gnufreex | Giants still see it as small fish | Aug 28 14:51 |
| oiaohm | These days arm chip level the field a lot. | Aug 28 14:51 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat is dependant on partnerships | Aug 28 14:51 |
| gnufreex | If they go against HP, that could hurt RH | Aug 28 14:51 |
| gnufreex | Dell makes Phones now too. | Aug 28 14:52 |
| gnufreex | And tablets. | Aug 28 14:52 |
| gnufreex | That means RHEL goes off their harware | Aug 28 14:52 |
| gnufreex | They like to retaliate against small players. | Aug 28 14:52 |
| gnufreex | For entering their market. | Aug 28 14:53 |
| gnufreex | Not to mention patents and Apple... | Aug 28 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Already redhat is in the location where the hardware makers can pick and choose away from them. | Aug 28 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Entering market is not that high of a risk. gnufreex | Aug 28 14:53 |
| oiaohm | As long as it by aquirement. | Aug 28 14:54 |
| gnufreex | I think Red Hat should bulk up before that. When RHEL becomes indespenisble... | Aug 28 14:54 |
| gnufreex | I think it is too risky. | Aug 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Remember redhat has to go head to head with Oracle as well. | Aug 28 14:55 |
| gnufreex | Oracle is another matter. | Aug 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | So no matter how good RHEL comes Oracle will copy. | Aug 28 14:55 |
| gnufreex | Oracle is competing directly with Red Hat now. | Aug 28 14:55 |
| gnufreex | And also with Red Hat's partners | Aug 28 14:55 |
| oiaohm | And it can play the hardware bundling game. | Aug 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Already. | Aug 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Now if HP and IBM and other get the same idea. Redhat could find itself in real hot water. | Aug 28 14:56 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat can bundle on IBM and Dell, I think they are doing that already. | Aug 28 14:56 |
| oiaohm | IBM also bundles SUSE just so Redhat is not the only supplier. | Aug 28 14:57 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat could buy SuSE | Aug 28 14:57 |
| oiaohm | And unbreakable Linux from Oracle | Aug 28 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Same with HP. | Aug 28 14:57 |
| gnufreex | Nobody takes OEL seriously. | Aug 28 14:57 |
| gnufreex | Oracle uses Linux support as upsell | Aug 28 14:58 |
| oiaohm | Really I see enter the arm hardware game direct for redhat as a good move. | Aug 28 14:58 |
| gnufreex | They inspect what software you are using. | Aug 28 14:58 |
| gnufreex | So they can offer you their crap | Aug 28 14:58 |
| gnufreex | Customers are wary of that | Aug 28 14:58 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat is not even 1b in revenue yet | Aug 28 14:59 |
| gnufreex | They can't compete on hardware | Aug 28 14:59 |
| gnufreex | They don't have enough revenue | Aug 28 14:59 |
| gnufreex | And size | Aug 28 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Having in house hardware would help redhat brand placement as well. | Aug 28 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Even if it like Dell monitors. | Aug 28 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Ie Dell don't make monitors or keyboards at all. | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | Well... I am thinking. | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | They could buy SGI | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | For servers | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | it's cheep | Aug 28 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Don't know if that will be any value. | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | That's in fact Rackable | Aug 28 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Thinking most of the fight these days is arm vs x86 | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | They have about 2Bn in sales | Aug 28 15:00 |
| gnufreex | And they are exploring Tilera | Aug 28 15:01 |
| gnufreex | Not shipping yet | Aug 28 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Tilera and redhat could be a interesting combination. | Aug 28 15:01 |
| gnufreex | Yes but Tilera don't have FPUs yet | Aug 28 15:01 |
| gnufreex | It is not for servers | Aug 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the server | Aug 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Not all server roles need FPU | Aug 28 15:02 |
| gnufreex | It is all heavy lifting. | Aug 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Also it would be interesting if FPU role could be off loaded to GPU. | Aug 28 15:02 |
| gnufreex | It is hard to succed in harware now | Aug 28 15:02 |
| gnufreex | You need volume | Aug 28 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Arm side volume requirement is less. | Aug 28 15:03 |
| gnufreex | I was thinking that Red Hat should buy CPU company | Aug 28 15:03 |
| gnufreex | Like AMD | Aug 28 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Due to the low licence cost of arm. | Aug 28 15:03 |
| gnufreex | Screw servers | Aug 28 15:03 |
| gnufreex | Just chips | Aug 28 15:03 |
| gnufreex | And open source ones | Aug 28 15:04 |
| gnufreex | But that puts them against Intel | Aug 28 15:04 |
| gnufreex | So intel might stop being cooperative with Linux drivers | Aug 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | intel vs AMD vs everyone in arm | Aug 28 15:04 |
| gnufreex | They are scum | Aug 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | That is the current compete market that is forming. | Aug 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Redhat coping the cisco system model would be quite good as well. | Aug 28 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie buy from who ever makes the best hardware put own brand on it plus 10 percent. | Aug 28 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Basically they need to get in the hardware game one way on another. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:06 |
| gnufreex | I don't beleive Red Hat can go into hardware until atleast increases people cound over 1000 | Aug 28 15:06 |
| gnufreex | I mean 10 000 | Aug 28 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Its not like normal OEM are going to release redhat workstations any time soon. | Aug 28 15:06 |
| oiaohm | At decent prices. | Aug 28 15:06 |
| gnufreex | It would be easy to sink the company if they enter in hardware now. | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | I am thinking diferent way. | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | Red Hat needs to move up the stack | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | now down | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | They need CMS | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | ERP | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | CRM | Aug 28 15:07 |
| oiaohm | This is why I said Redhat needs phone. | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | And other nasy acronyms | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | like POS | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | (point of sale | Aug 28 15:07 |
| gnufreex | ) | Aug 28 15:08 |
| oiaohm | If ERP CRM and CMS don't intergrate well with phones theses days you are in trouble. | Aug 28 15:08 |
| oiaohm | And currently that is outside redhat control. | Aug 28 15:08 |
| gnufreex | Well they can make apps. | Aug 28 15:08 |
| gnufreex | They are not stupid | Aug 28 15:08 |
| oiaohm | Does not help you. | Aug 28 15:08 |
| gnufreex | How? | Aug 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | some android phone carriors lock the applications you can install. | Aug 28 15:09 |
| gnufreex | They buy SugarCRM, already have iPhone app | Aug 28 15:09 |
| gnufreex | And andorid | Aug 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | If apple enters CRM market they can terminate anything competing against them. | Aug 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | out of the iphone market. | Aug 28 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Yes its in the iphone developer agreements. | Aug 28 15:09 |
| gnufreex | That would be big gresy LAWSUIT | Aug 28 15:10 |
| gnufreex | Big DAMAGES | Aug 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Not really. | Aug 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Thinking all developers had to agree to it before developing for iphone. | Aug 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | So should have allowed for the fact. | Aug 28 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Yes iphone is a truly closed platform. | Aug 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Android phones can be stuffed up by crap carriors add to them. | Aug 28 15:11 |
| gnufreex | Android is not quite like that... but close. | Aug 28 15:11 |
| oiaohm | So in my eyes redhat need to target something hardware arm side preferable phone maker. | Aug 28 15:12 |
| oiaohm | Even if the phone ends up Android inside with redhat intergration shiped defualt. | Aug 28 15:12 |
| gnufreex | I was thinking also about Red Hat... what if they buy ARM and opensource it? | Aug 28 15:12 |
| gnufreex | That would blast intel... or not. | Aug 28 15:12 |
| oiaohm | Not wise. | Aug 28 15:12 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, to expensive | Aug 28 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Licencing for arm is very cheep it a few cents a chip. | Aug 28 15:13 |
| gnufreex | Better do it with MIPS | Aug 28 15:13 |
| gnufreex | They are cheap | Aug 28 15:13 |
| gnufreex | And Stallman uses MIPS in Lemote | Aug 28 15:13 |
| oiaohm | And that few cents due to arm company desing about 90 percent goes back into development anyhow gnufreex | Aug 28 15:13 |
| gnufreex | So they have a celebrity | Aug 28 15:13 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 28 15:13 |
| oiaohm | So all you end up doing by open sourcing arm is possiblely killing off the development lab | Aug 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Causing Intel to win without question. | Aug 28 15:14 |
| gnufreex | Yeah... unless License is viral | Aug 28 15:14 |
| gnufreex | Like AGPLv3 | Aug 28 15:14 |
| gnufreex | But even more. | Aug 28 15:14 |
| oiaohm | You are aware that arm licence per chip does not limit the construction of the chip | Aug 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | You licence the right to produce the chip. | Aug 28 15:15 |
| gnufreex | license for patents | Aug 28 15:15 |
| gnufreex | I know | Aug 28 15:15 |
| oiaohm | And design updates | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | But there is new OpenCores | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | Licenses | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | TAPR and such | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | Something that requires opensourcing of whole computer | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | GPL doesn't work for that | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | It doesnt apply on chips corectly | Aug 28 15:16 |
| gnufreex | You can take GPL'd chip, modify it, make it in your own fabs and don't share back modifications. | Aug 28 15:17 |
| gnufreex | Because GPL doesn't extend to chips. | Aug 28 15:18 |
| gnufreex | Chips are not copyrightable | Aug 28 15:18 |
| gnufreex | Only design papers are. | Aug 28 15:18 |
| gnufreex | If you don't distirbute drawings, you are not bound by GPL. | Aug 28 15:19 |
| gnufreex | Drawings and verilog code. | Aug 28 15:19 |
| oiaohm | verilog code is still a long way from fast production silcon. | Aug 28 15:19 |
| gnufreex | I know | Aug 28 15:19 |
| oiaohm | Arm does allow you to build clones in verilog and not pay. | Aug 28 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Due to the simple fact the know you cannot compete. | Aug 28 15:20 |
| gnufreex | Chinese Lemote is doing some MIPS design. | Aug 28 15:21 |
| gnufreex | They are doing 4-core 8 thread CPU under 15 wats | Aug 28 15:21 |
| gnufreex | I don't know if it is done yet | Aug 28 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Biggest issue for Mips is the low numbers of coders that code for it. | Aug 28 15:22 |
| oiaohm | So compliers for it are not as good as they could be. | Aug 28 15:22 |
| gnufreex | You don't need coders for MIPS, nobody use asembly anymore. | Aug 28 15:23 |
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| gnufreex | GCC has excelent port | Aug 28 15:23 |
| gnufreex | to MIPS | Aug 28 15:23 |
| gnufreex | Just recompile everything | Aug 28 15:23 |
| gnufreex | Stallman is using MIPS. So it must be GOOD | Aug 28 15:23 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 28 15:23 |
| gnufreex | Lol | Aug 28 15:23 |
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| oiaohm | I have seen waht Stallman calls a good complier. | Aug 28 15:24 |
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| gnufreex | I am joking | Aug 28 15:24 |
| oiaohm | We are still trying to cure the issues in it. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:24 |
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| gnufreex | But all MIPS machines use Linux now | Aug 28 15:25 |
| gnufreex | What isues... you mean GCC? | Aug 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Wrong | Aug 28 15:25 |
| gnufreex | What else they use? | Aug 28 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Some MIPS chips use freertos and vxworks | Aug 28 15:25 |
| gnufreex | Lemote machines come with Debian spin | Aug 28 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Gcc is Stallman idea of a good complier. | Aug 28 15:26 |
| oiaohm | No where near mine. | Aug 28 15:26 |
| gnufreex | And they are used in chinese schools. | Aug 28 15:26 |
| gnufreex | I mean lemote. | Aug 28 15:26 |
| gnufreex | What is wrong with GCC? | Aug 28 15:26 |
| cubevector | oiaohm, what else would you recommend for compiler? | Aug 28 15:27 |
| gnufreex | I hate Clang and LLVM | Aug 28 15:27 |
| gnufreex | Tried, sucks | Aug 28 15:27 |
| oiaohm | I have used a lot of closed source compliers like Portland group. | Aug 28 15:27 |
| gnufreex | It compiled faster, but it runs slower. | Aug 28 15:27 |
| oiaohm | I have got used to the auto refactoring. | Aug 28 15:27 |
| gnufreex | I never got why Stallman is against refactoring | Aug 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | And proper linktime optmisatin and proper auto profiling. | Aug 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | I never understood many things about gcc. | Aug 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | and binutils under it. | Aug 28 15:28 |
| oiaohm | Why in hell does binutils have to be platform selective. | Aug 28 15:28 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Aug 28 15:29 |
| gnufreex | Hi | Aug 28 15:29 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: Hi | Aug 28 15:29 |
| oiaohm | There is really no valid reason for binutils to be platform selective other than crap code. | Aug 28 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Hi sebsebseb | Aug 28 15:29 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Hi | Aug 28 15:29 |
| gnufreex | Well... didn't thought about that. | Aug 28 15:29 |
| cubevector | I ported binutils to zaurus and never had a problem | Aug 28 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Same with gcc neater and cleaner splitting of platform code. | Aug 28 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Could mean not needing different gcc binariess for cross compliers. | Aug 28 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Ie just need the platform libs. | Aug 28 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Basically gcc and binutils is one huge mother of a mess. | Aug 28 15:31 |
| oiaohm | In my eyes. | Aug 28 15:31 |
| gnufreex | I tried GCC on Alpha and MIPS (old SGI), it compiles everything and optimizes... I like portability. | Aug 28 15:31 |
| gnufreex | I think Clang will never get there. | Aug 28 15:31 |
| gnufreex | Jobs will shackle it to Mac | Aug 28 15:31 |
| cubevector | well oiaohm you could always write your own binutils :) | Aug 28 15:31 |
| gnufreex | And that's it | Aug 28 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Really bintuils is design to do what I said | Aug 28 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Other than all the platform hacks that have been allowed in core code. | Aug 28 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Instead of being kept in there own platform sections. | Aug 28 15:33 |
| oiaohm | gold from google was a great step forward for binutils down right pitty it stuck only to Linux. | Aug 28 15:33 |
| gnufreex | What Jobs did to Obj-C branch of GCC: he didn't open source ObjC runtime library becasue he didn't have too. And now he funds Clang because GCC ObjC sucks. And sucks because if his propriatary ways. | Aug 28 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Ie get binutils right. | Aug 28 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Then get intergration between gcc and binutils right. | Aug 28 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Then sort out gcc. | Aug 28 15:35 |
| gnufreex | What Google did with binutils? | Aug 28 15:35 |
| oiaohm | The gold linker. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:35 |
| oiaohm | It allows the linker to pass back to gcc for link time optimisation. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:35 |
| gnufreex | Is it in FSF main branch or they keept it for Android only? | Aug 28 15:35 |
| oiaohm | GNU main branch. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:36 |
| gnufreex | kewl | Aug 28 15:36 |
| gnufreex | I think we need new EGCC fork | Aug 28 15:36 |
| oiaohm | Lack of Link time optimisation is why static binaries from gcc have always been over size. | Aug 28 15:36 |
| gnufreex | For R&D | Aug 28 15:36 |
| gnufreex | And later to get renamed to GCC 5 | Aug 28 15:36 |
| oiaohm | First fork and fix binutils. | Aug 28 15:37 |
| gnufreex | Who cares about size | Aug 28 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Ie correctly lay it so you only need one copy of every binutil tool to build for every platform. | Aug 28 15:37 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 28 15:37 |
| oiaohm | size effects start up time of programs. gnufreex | Aug 28 15:37 |
| gnufreex | I really didn't have issues with binutils | Aug 28 15:37 |
| gnufreex | I know, I am messing | Aug 28 15:38 |
| gnufreex | Notice smile | Aug 28 15:38 |
| oiaohm | Ie ar gas ld and so only 1 binary only should be able to do every platform binutils can be cross built for. | Aug 28 15:38 |
| gnufreex | I have to look at that binutils part.... | Aug 28 15:38 |
| gnufreex | What part it is ? | Aug 28 15:39 |
| cubevector | when I compile on the 486 I like smaller size | Aug 28 15:39 |
| cubevector | yeah, I know no one else does that :) | Aug 28 15:39 |
| gnufreex | I will stare in code when I have time... not now. | Aug 28 15:39 |
| oiaohm | You will find it in configure option to attempt to have binutils build for every platform. | Aug 28 15:39 |
| oiaohm | It don't work. | Aug 28 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Ok it builds but it don't build binaries for every platform right. | Aug 28 15:40 |
| gnufreex | Which platform suck most? | Aug 28 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Due to #ifndef preprocessing used instead of using the target build flag. | Aug 28 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Yes the #ifndef is slightly faster if building targeted for 1 platform. | Aug 28 15:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes #ifndef is a really evil flag to be using too. | Aug 28 15:41 |
| gnufreex | Did you tried to fix it? | Aug 28 15:42 |
| oiaohm | I tried once. | Aug 28 15:42 |
| oiaohm | I should find time to try again. | Aug 28 15:42 |
| gnufreex | I really don't have time now... if I had time I would be hacking Hurd | Aug 28 15:42 |
| gnufreex | It is really interesting | Aug 28 15:42 |
| oiaohm | It was pre http://coccinelle.lip6.fr/ | Aug 28 15:43 |
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| cubevector | does hurd work? | Aug 28 15:43 |
| cubevector | I should try it sometime | Aug 28 15:43 |
| oiaohm | coccinelle might give me a chance of correcting the huge mother of a mess. | Aug 28 15:43 |
| gnufreex | It works | Aug 28 15:43 |
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| gnufreex | In VM | Aug 28 15:43 |
| gnufreex | didn't try on hardware | Aug 28 15:43 |
| cubevector | I don't see too many people using it | Aug 28 15:43 |
| gnufreex | But it works on certain hardware | Aug 28 15:43 |
| gnufreex | It is not really usable | Aug 28 15:43 |
| gnufreex | X server is slow | Aug 28 15:44 |
| gnufreex | Due to Mack IPC | Aug 28 15:44 |
| cubevector | sounds a bit like AROS | Aug 28 15:44 |
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| gnufreex | And due to X server patialy runing in krenel mode in Linux | Aug 28 15:44 |
| gnufreex | So Hurd has some nasty hacks | Aug 28 15:44 |
| gnufreex | To circumvent that | Aug 28 15:44 |
| gnufreex | I meant Mach IPC | Aug 28 15:45 |
| gnufreex | Problem is lack of developers | Aug 28 15:45 |
| cubevector | exactly the same situation as AROS then | Aug 28 15:45 |
| cubevector | and probably a lot of other alternative OSes | Aug 28 15:45 |
| gnufreex | Ideas are great, even some really inovative stuff | Aug 28 15:45 |
| gnufreex | Like Viengoos microkernel | Aug 28 15:46 |
| gnufreex | Who suposed to replace crappy mach | Aug 28 15:46 |
| gnufreex | Read about Viengoos, it is really interesting | Aug 28 15:46 |
| cubevector | so many things to learn | Aug 28 15:47 |
| gnufreex | There is effort to port DDE layer from DROPS project | Aug 28 15:47 |
| gnufreex | Drops is Dresden university project | Aug 28 15:47 |
| gnufreex | to make an OS | Aug 28 15:47 |
| gnufreex | Realtime OS on top of L4 | Aug 28 15:48 |
| gnufreex | DDE is device driver envoirment | Aug 28 15:48 |
| gnufreex | That are libraries who enable linux and FreeBSD drivers | Aug 28 15:48 |
| gnufreex | To run in user space | Aug 28 15:48 |
| gnufreex | That is whole point of Microkernel | Aug 28 15:48 |
| gnufreex | Hackers at #hurd say that xorg will work better once that is done. | Aug 28 15:49 |
| gnufreex | I mean when DDE is ported to hurd. | Aug 28 15:49 |
| gnufreex | Hurd curently use glue layer and whole Linux kernel for drivers | Aug 28 15:50 |
| gnufreex | And there is bug in that | Aug 28 15:50 |
| gnufreex | So mulythreading doesnt work | Aug 28 15:50 |
| gnufreex | When DDE works, Linux goes out from Mach | Aug 28 15:50 |
| gnufreex | And goes in userspace | Aug 28 15:51 |
| gnufreex | And performace goes up | Aug 28 15:51 |
| gnufreex | hopefuly | Aug 28 15:51 |
| oiaohm | Most Linux drivers don't check if they are in kernel space or not. | Aug 28 15:51 |
| gnufreex | DDE tricks those who check | Aug 28 15:51 |
| oiaohm | To be correct all open source ones don't directly. | Aug 28 15:52 |
| oiaohm | userspace running Linux drivers will come with a speed hit gnufreex | Aug 28 15:53 |
| oiaohm | context switches are not free. | Aug 28 15:53 |
| gnufreex | That would be in normal world | Aug 28 15:53 |
| gnufreex | But not in hurd world :-) | Aug 28 15:53 |
| oiaohm | Even in hurd. | Aug 28 15:54 |
| gnufreex | It is because Mach is working with only thread now | Aug 28 15:54 |
| cubevector | so out of all the operating systems you have tried, which one was the best? | Aug 28 15:54 |
| gnufreex | Due to glue layer | Aug 28 15:54 |
| gnufreex | which is needed to shoehorn Linux to Mach | Aug 28 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Really I don't see Mach as a solution. | Aug 28 15:54 |
| oiaohm | cubevector: it depends on task. | Aug 28 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Linux is becoming a pritty good allrounder. | Aug 28 15:55 |
| cubevector | say your usual work | Aug 28 15:55 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Mach is necesary evil right now. But hurd servers are portable | Aug 28 15:55 |
| gnufreex | When DDE works, it can be ported to Viengoos | Aug 28 15:55 |
| cubevector | 90%+ of my work is done on some version of Linux | Aug 28 15:55 |
| oiaohm | I think it going to be a long time before any of the clones will have the features Linux has at the moment. | Aug 28 15:56 |
| oiaohm | fanotify as its feature base expand brings interesting feature to Linux. | Aug 28 15:57 |
| cubevector | hard to imagine any other OS catching up with Linux | Aug 28 15:57 |
| oiaohm | Userspace file access control and userspace file access delay. | Aug 28 15:57 |
| gnufreex | Probably. But features is what is bloating Linux. So Microkernel is future. | Aug 28 15:57 |
| oiaohm | fuse buse and cuse give me userspace drivers almost everywhere I need it. | Aug 28 15:58 |
| oiaohm | Over the next few years Linux world will start kicking some drivers out of kernel space and to userspace | Aug 28 15:59 |
| oiaohm | As they are no longer need there. | Aug 28 15:59 |
| gnufreex | ANd it will make a hybrid kernel | Aug 28 15:59 |
| gnufreex | But no. | Aug 28 15:59 |
| oiaohm | Its already hybrid. | Aug 28 15:59 |
| gnufreex | Well... that is long shot. | Aug 28 16:00 |
| gnufreex | It is not really | Aug 28 16:00 |
| oiaohm | The design of Linux really cannot be called pure monolithic | Aug 28 16:00 |
| oiaohm | Anymore. | Aug 28 16:00 |
| oiaohm | Locking system is breaking down into a subsystem design. | Aug 28 16:00 |
| gnufreex | It has loadable kernel modules (as well as every modern monolithic kernel) | Aug 28 16:01 |
| oiaohm | What about fuse cuse and buse? gnufreex | Aug 28 16:01 |
| gnufreex | I think definition of monolithing has changed | Aug 28 16:01 |
| oiaohm | Or the fact the network stack drivers can be built user or kernel space. | Aug 28 16:01 |
| gnufreex | It would be crazy to make completely monolithic kernel now. | Aug 28 16:01 |
| oiaohm | Loadable modules is still monolithic | Aug 28 16:02 |
| gnufreex | I don't know if there are any real monolythic kernel left | Aug 28 16:02 |
| oiaohm | Also sections of kernel mode Linux drivers does not end up running there in fact. | Aug 28 16:02 |
| gnufreex | Maybe OpenVMS | Aug 28 16:02 |
| oiaohm | Ie some sections are faster run in userspace and avoid context switch. | Aug 28 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Linux is a nicely blury item going in some direction. | Aug 28 16:03 |
| gnufreex | What I call Hybrid kernel is something like Tru 64 | Aug 28 16:03 |
| gnufreex | Or OSX | Aug 28 16:03 |
| gnufreex | Both use Mach | Aug 28 16:03 |
| gnufreex | A microkernel with single big server in userspace | Aug 28 16:04 |
| oiaohm | fuse cuse and buse are all service based. | Aug 28 16:04 |
| oiaohm | Same with fanotify. | Aug 28 16:04 |
| gnufreex | Hurd is microkernel with multy-server architecture. | Aug 28 16:04 |
| gnufreex | That is what I call Microkernel | Aug 28 16:04 |
| oiaohm | Ie some areas of Linux are multi-server | Aug 28 16:04 |
| oiaohm | other areas are monolithic | Aug 28 16:05 |
| gnufreex | No it's not. | Aug 28 16:05 |
| gnufreex | It has all funcionality needed in kernel | Aug 28 16:05 |
| gnufreex | It can run without userspace servers like FUSE | Aug 28 16:05 |
| gnufreex | OSX is useless with Mach only. | Aug 28 16:05 |
| oiaohm | So can NT | Aug 28 16:05 |
| gnufreex | NT is monolithic | Aug 28 16:05 |
| oiaohm | NT is class Hybred | Aug 28 16:06 |
| gnufreex | Thatis Microsoft spin | Aug 28 16:06 |
| oiaohm | It was first in class Hybred | Aug 28 16:06 |
| oiaohm | NT design started off microkernel then to monolithic ideas to give speed. | Aug 28 16:06 |
| oiaohm | Linux has started off monolithic and its taking microkernel ideas to give speed. | Aug 28 16:07 |
| oiaohm | And secuirty | Aug 28 16:07 |
| gnufreex | NT started as try to make Microkernel which failed (it wasnt really) | Aug 28 16:07 |
| gnufreex | So they scraped that | Aug 28 16:07 |
| gnufreex | And made a big blob | Aug 28 16:07 |
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| oiaohm | The internal layout of services inside NT | Aug 28 16:07 |
| gnufreex | And called it microkernel | Aug 28 16:07 |
| cubevector | big blobs seem easier to program | Aug 28 16:07 |
| oiaohm | is still the say as a Microkernel. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:07 |
| oiaohm | Big thing NT did was moving everything into ring 0 | Aug 28 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Instead of keeping the microkernel seperation. | Aug 28 16:08 |
| gnufreex | Big blobs are easier to get to usable state. Later can become unmaintainable | Aug 28 16:08 |
| gnufreex | Microkernels are hard to get right | Aug 28 16:08 |
| gnufreex | But later are easily to extend | Aug 28 16:08 |
| cubevector | there was QNX | Aug 28 16:09 |
| oiaohm | NT still has all the subsystems | Aug 28 16:09 |
| cubevector | not sure if people still use that though | Aug 28 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Still uses services and interconnects in ring 0. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Context switch saving. | Aug 28 16:09 |
| gnufreex | If you run filesysyem in user space, not a microkernel. Not by a long shoot. | Aug 28 16:10 |
| gnufreex | That is only one example. | Aug 28 16:10 |
| gnufreex | NT also had windowing sysyem in kernel | Aug 28 16:10 |
| oiaohm | cuse and buse can do almost every other device bar memory. | Aug 28 16:10 |
| gnufreex | They took it out later | Aug 28 16:10 |
| oiaohm | To be correct prototype of NT had windows system userspace. | Aug 28 16:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes it worked with it userspace but it was slugish. | Aug 28 16:11 |
| oiaohm | Basically vista was full circle gnufreex | Aug 28 16:12 |
| gnufreex | Prototype of NT was try of Microkernel. Later they put all and the dog in the kernel | Aug 28 16:12 |
| gnufreex | And later took it out | Aug 28 16:12 |
| oiaohm | Not all gnufreex | Aug 28 16:12 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, Vista tries to do drivers in userspace | Aug 28 16:12 |
| oiaohm | Printer drivers entered. | Aug 28 16:13 |
| oiaohm | Same with Windows equal to fanotify for real-time scanning. | Aug 28 16:13 |
| oiaohm | OOpss Printer drivers "never" entered | Aug 28 16:14 |
| gnufreex | I don't try to learn much about Windows. But I know that they had windowing sysyem in kernel at one point. And I know that first NT treid to be Microkernel and failed miserably. So Bill Gates scraped it and threatened to fire anyone who think about microkernel | Aug 28 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Its like Linux in recent years you do a syscall todo like a kernel printf from userspace and end up at glibc | Aug 28 16:14 |
| gnufreex | So that was probably point when they put Windowing into kernel. | Aug 28 16:15 |
| oiaohm | Not all syscalls you call under Linux any more will enter kernel mode. | Aug 28 16:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes some fold back exactly like a microkernel. | Aug 28 16:16 |
| oiaohm | Linux is slowly picking the best bits out microkernel.. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:17 |
| gnufreex | Kewl... but I think we need to have one microkernel also. | Aug 28 16:18 |
| oiaohm | Or have the wiered happen. | Aug 28 16:18 |
| oiaohm | Where Linux ends up with a microkernel build option. | Aug 28 16:19 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Aug 28 16:19 |
| gnufreex | I think Linus will sue for trademark then | Aug 28 16:19 |
| gnufreex | We will have to rename it to Hurd | Aug 28 16:19 |
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| gnufreex | He hatez microkernels | Aug 28 16:19 |
| oiaohm | Really his point has been performance. | Aug 28 16:20 |
| oiaohm | And debugging the mungles at times. | Aug 28 16:20 |
| gnufreex | Most of the hitpoint was due to Mach | Aug 28 16:20 |
| gnufreex | It is pieace of sh*** | Aug 28 16:20 |
| gnufreex | Viengoos runs some test better than Linux | Aug 28 16:20 |
| gnufreex | But those are limited test | Aug 28 16:21 |
| oiaohm | Note minux vs Linux | Aug 28 16:21 |
| gnufreex | Because Viengoos can't run nothing complex yet | Aug 28 16:21 |
| oiaohm | And viengoos has caused a few areas in Linux to change. | Aug 28 16:21 |
| oiaohm | to closer to microkernel style. | Aug 28 16:21 |
| gnufreex | Really... ? Didn't know. | Aug 28 16:21 |
| oiaohm | Speed issue was userspace to kernel space switching and memory mapping. | Aug 28 16:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of changes have been done in those areas over the last 3 releases. | Aug 28 16:22 |
| gnufreex | Moveover, I advise Carnege Mellond should be destroyed. | Aug 28 16:23 |
| gnufreex | They made mach | Aug 28 16:23 |
| oiaohm | Including removing the stupid mistake of copying data from userspace to kernel space and copying it back | Aug 28 16:23 |
| oiaohm | Now its simplely an access transfer. | Aug 28 16:23 |
| gnufreex | I think Microsoft contracted them to sink GNU | Aug 28 16:23 |
| gnufreex | *Moreover. | Aug 28 16:23 |
| gnufreex | But Linus Torvalds beat them to it. | Aug 28 16:24 |
| oiaohm | fuse is a lot faster in the new kernels. | Aug 28 16:24 |
| oiaohm | Also due to the fact the calls can end up mostly missing kernel space. | Aug 28 16:24 |
| oiaohm | I will not be supprised as Linux kernel gets it locks sorted out if more of the subsystem code of Linux does not drift to userspace | Aug 28 16:25 |
| oiaohm | For performance reasons. | Aug 28 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | I loved the idea that Linux doesn't have stable in kernel interface for drivers. | Aug 28 16:26 |
| gnufreex | Until I saw how it made trouble for DDE. | Aug 28 16:26 |
| oiaohm | fuse buse cuse are all stable. | Aug 28 16:27 |
| gnufreex | But didn't really made too much trouble. Only FreeBSD drivers got ported easier. With less people working on it. | Aug 28 16:27 |
| oiaohm | The issue is also Linux developers have fall in love with http://coccinelle.lip6.fr/ | Aug 28 16:28 |
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| oiaohm | Allowing massive restruct simple. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:28 |
| oiaohm | Last 12 months the changes in kernel mode driver interfaces of Linux has axcelerated because of it. | Aug 28 16:29 |
| oiaohm | The removal of the BKL should allow sections of Linux to be cut out without causing as many nightmares either. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:30 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, it can make some cleaning. | Aug 28 16:30 |
| gnufreex | And it will improve threading. | Aug 28 16:30 |
| gnufreex | I saw recently Tilera guys sending paches on lkml | Aug 28 16:31 |
| gnufreex | That is really good, 256 cores per box. | Aug 28 16:31 |
| gnufreex | They didn't get all working well yet. | Aug 28 16:32 |
| oiaohm | Largest test system for Linux that I know of is a scary 4096 cores. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:36 |
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| gnufreex | oiaohm: yes but that was cluster AFAIK | Aug 28 16:46 |
| oiaohm | No gnufreex | Aug 28 16:46 |
| oiaohm | NUMA gnufreex | Aug 28 16:47 |
| gnufreex | What box was that | Aug 28 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Its in the intel test grid. | Aug 28 16:47 |
| gnufreex | ? | Aug 28 16:47 |
| gnufreex | Do you have a link? | Aug 28 16:47 |
| oiaohm | Currently it runs like a dog | Aug 28 16:47 |
| gnufreex | I wana see results | Aug 28 16:48 |
| oiaohm | I wish the intel guys would pubish a new set of results. | Aug 28 16:48 |
| oiaohm | The last set of results on the LKML from it were about 3 years ago. | Aug 28 16:48 |
| oiaohm | Yet it still being used. | Aug 28 16:48 |
| oiaohm | Of course NUMA and cluster are kind releated. Both are made up of nodes. Cluster normally uses networking. NUMA solutions use direct motherboard to motherboard cabling. | Aug 28 16:51 |
| gnufreex | When BKL goes out, they will need to upgrade their computer :-) | Aug 28 16:52 |
| oiaohm | There is tons more of issues with Large NUMA | Aug 28 16:52 |
| oiaohm | BKL is only the tip of a very huge iceberg. | Aug 28 16:53 |
| gnufreex | What will Fujitsu VIIIfx be running now? | Aug 28 16:53 |
| gnufreex | Is it still solaris or what? | Aug 28 16:53 |
| oiaohm | Most large systems are running Linux. | Aug 28 16:53 |
| gnufreex | You know abou Japanese supercomputer? | Aug 28 16:53 |
| oiaohm | solaris is fairly rare. | Aug 28 16:53 |
| gnufreex | Yes but this is SPARC | Aug 28 16:53 |
| oiaohm | Most supers are Linux. | Aug 28 16:53 |
| oiaohm | O boy | Aug 28 16:54 |
| oiaohm | That could be either. | Aug 28 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Or both | Aug 28 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do mean both. | Aug 28 16:54 |
| gnufreex | SPARC64 VIIIfx procesor comes out in 2011 | Aug 28 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Solaris/Linux in one combination is possible. | Aug 28 16:54 |
| gnufreex | 8 cores and 16 threads | Aug 28 16:54 |
| oiaohm | using the hardware hypers in sparc | Aug 28 16:54 |
| gnufreex | And it will go over 4000 CPUs | Aug 28 16:54 |
| gnufreex | That is lots of cores | Aug 28 16:55 |
| oiaohm | That is still inside Linux upper limit. | Aug 28 16:55 |
| oiaohm | With custom super patching. | Aug 28 16:55 |
| gnufreex | They will probably be partitioning it. | Aug 28 16:55 |
| oiaohm | Non partitioned | Aug 28 16:55 |
| oiaohm | 64000 cores is the current upper limit. gnufreex | Aug 28 16:56 |
| oiaohm | With Linux streched to max. | Aug 28 16:56 |
| gnufreex | Yes I know... I watched Red Hat summit | Aug 28 16:56 |
| gnufreex | So that is exactly on limit | Aug 28 16:56 |
| gnufreex | If we count thread as core | Aug 28 16:56 |
| gnufreex | It has 16 threads per CPU | Aug 28 16:57 |
| gnufreex | and 8 cores | Aug 28 16:57 |
| oiaohm | CPU numa data structs. | Aug 28 16:57 |
| oiaohm | And Locking hell. | Aug 28 16:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is a magically point that adding more cores give no more performance due to locks screwing everything up. | Aug 28 16:58 |
| gnufreex | But I don't know what will Fujitsu use. That supercompuer is expected to have some Xenons too | Aug 28 16:58 |
| gnufreex | Hybrid | Aug 28 16:58 |
| oiaohm | Boy that sounds cluster | Aug 28 16:59 |
| oiaohm | Not NUMA | Aug 28 16:59 |
| gnufreex | I forgot how it goes... | Aug 28 16:59 |
| gnufreex | Read the papers... | Aug 28 16:59 |
| gnufreex | But forgot. | Aug 28 16:59 |
| oiaohm | NUMA does not allow crossing cpu types. | Aug 28 16:59 |
| oiaohm | cluster can cross cpu types. | Aug 28 17:00 |
| gnufreex | They might have two separate NUMA modules | Aug 28 17:00 |
| oiaohm | With a cluster link between them. | Aug 28 17:00 |
| gnufreex | Yes | Aug 28 17:00 |
| gnufreex | I don't remember for sure | Aug 28 17:00 |
| gnufreex | Can't find papers now. | Aug 28 17:00 |
| oiaohm | And with that mix its most likely Linux | Aug 28 17:01 |
| oiaohm | solaris on Xenons is not exactly great. | Aug 28 17:01 |
| gnufreex | It is not bad either. | Aug 28 17:01 |
| oiaohm | Linux upcoming kernel got a lot faster networking stack. | Aug 28 17:02 |
| oiaohm | Ie googles | Aug 28 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Loving the easylife project for #fedora to install and automate commonly used software - easylifeproject.org /by @wariola | Aug 28 17:02 | |
| gnufreex | Yeah, from Google | Aug 28 17:03 |
| gnufreex | There was story circling, that OpenSolaris was released because of Google. | Aug 28 17:04 |
| gnufreex | They hoped Google to use it | Aug 28 17:04 |
| gnufreex | And lessen R&D costs | Aug 28 17:04 |
| oiaohm | VFS scaleablity costs | Aug 28 17:04 |
| gnufreex | But too late | Aug 28 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Really what were they thinking. | Aug 28 17:04 |
| gnufreex | Google switched to Linux already by then | Aug 28 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Google avoids giving there alterations back. | Aug 28 17:04 |
| oiaohm | Were ever they can. | Aug 28 17:04 |
| gnufreex | They wanted to give their machines for free. | Aug 28 17:05 |
| gnufreex | It pays off. | Aug 28 17:05 |
| oiaohm | Google only started giving alteration back because work load maintaining there patches become too hard. | Aug 28 17:05 |
| oiaohm | Yep Linux kernel unstable internal structs win. | Aug 28 17:05 |
| gnufreex | Yeah | Aug 28 17:05 |
| oiaohm | solarias has stable kernel structs so most likely would never see googles alterations ever. | Aug 28 17:05 |
| gnufreex | Where would we be without that | Aug 28 17:05 |
| oiaohm | There are still are large set of patches super only left outside mainline linux. | Aug 28 17:06 |
| gnufreex | But Google used to contribute to MySQL | Aug 28 17:06 |
| gnufreex | They didn't need to | Aug 28 17:06 |
| gnufreex | They ware not upgrading | Aug 28 17:06 |
| oiaohm | That was out of there 20 percent outside work there staff has todo. | Aug 28 17:06 |
| gnufreex | And they even assigned copyrights to MySQL AB | Aug 28 17:07 |
| oiaohm | wine has a google developer that does testing and maintains winetricks out of the 20 percent outside work he has todo. | Aug 28 17:07 |
| gnufreex | Yes, they use MapReduce. MySQL is only for easy stuff. | Aug 28 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "John Lennon's loo fetches £9,500" - http://is.gd/eIqvZ <oh, what next? /by @StratenMalaysia | Aug 28 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to Evoke 2010 - Live! http://scenesat.com/ !demoscene !amiga !chip !mod !scene | Aug 28 17:07 | |
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| oiaohm | That stuff is not google approved or google internal. gnufreex | Aug 28 17:08 |
| gnufreex | What? | Aug 28 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Getting the google internal is pulling teeth a lot of times. | Aug 28 17:08 |
| oiaohm | Lot of work google staff does that people link to google are in there 20 percent work allocations. | Aug 28 17:09 |
| oiaohm | Reason for doing it keeps google developers down to earth gnufreex | Aug 28 17:09 |
| gnufreex | What, they will fly ? | Aug 28 17:09 |
| oiaohm | So its not really google approved actions. It staff required community involement. | Aug 28 17:09 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Aug 28 17:10 |
| gnufreex | I really don't like how things are going with shitty companies. | Aug 28 17:10 |
| oiaohm | You have seen some of the insane ideas coming out of MS and they don't have that policy. | Aug 28 17:10 |
| oiaohm | So yes there is a risk they will attempt to fly without wings without it. gnufreex | Aug 28 17:11 |
| gnufreex | What do you mean insane ideas form MS? They mostly make crap. | Aug 28 17:11 |
| gnufreex | If you mean conspiracy... then you are on. | Aug 28 17:11 |
| cubevector | listening to some of the Haiku guys | Aug 28 17:12 |
| cubevector | FLOSS Weekly 120: The Haiku Op | Aug 28 17:13 |
| cubevector | http://twit.tv/floss120 | Aug 28 17:13 |
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| gnufreex | oiaohm: So, I was thinking also about RHT and hardware the other day. | Aug 28 17:13 |
| gnufreex | I was thinking they can afford it only in few years | Aug 28 17:14 |
| gnufreex | (back to old topic) | Aug 28 17:14 |
| gnufreex | There is really nothing they could afford. | Aug 28 17:15 |
| oiaohm | At moment there are a few they can afford. | Aug 28 17:15 |
| gnufreex | There was Sun, but that is sold out. | Aug 28 17:15 |
| gnufreex | And that is not really in their ball park either | Aug 28 17:15 |
| oiaohm | Lot of small companes that were producing clone products since the release of android are getting to go legal. | Aug 28 17:15 |
| gnufreex | There is few now that they could afford, but it would be stupid | Aug 28 17:15 |
| oiaohm | So in the lower end there will be a few companies. | Aug 28 17:16 |
| gnufreex | If they buy small company, they would be threathening with an empy gun. They will broke partnerships and get nothing. | Aug 28 17:16 |
| oiaohm | I did not say Redhat need top of top. At first. | Aug 28 17:16 |
| oiaohm | Really having a small is not a threat to the partnerships | Aug 28 17:17 |
| oiaohm | Get a big gun quickly could cause partners to panic. | Aug 28 17:17 |
| gnufreex | What did you have in mind? | Aug 28 17:17 |
| oiaohm | I would be more watching for the right targets. There is going to be a lot of presure in the phone markets. | Aug 28 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Most of the phone makers make in china and asia. | Aug 28 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Most of there production companies are not what you call loyal. | Aug 28 17:19 |
| gnufreex | Well Palm was then a chance... but too expensive. | Aug 28 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Don't think USA | Aug 28 17:19 |
| oiaohm | Think asia region. | Aug 28 17:20 |
| gnufreex | There is problem with buying taiwanese companies. | Aug 28 17:20 |
| gnufreex | Regulations | Aug 28 17:20 |
| gnufreex | It gets hairy. | Aug 28 17:20 |
| gnufreex | At the end of aquisiton, you get shell of the company. | Aug 28 17:20 |
| oiaohm | All they really need is a shell. | Aug 28 17:20 |
| oiaohm | Its not like they need large production plants. | Aug 28 17:21 |
| gnufreex | And don't think about China, that is off limits. | Aug 28 17:21 |
| oiaohm | Usage of those is buyable. | Aug 28 17:21 |
| oiaohm | asia/india regions. | Aug 28 17:21 |
| gnufreex | India and Japan is possible. | Aug 28 17:21 |
| oiaohm | yep | Aug 28 17:22 |
| oiaohm | Those are inside the area were most of the phone r&d is done. | Aug 28 17:22 |
| oiaohm | And there are a lot of small companies doing it. | Aug 28 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Pearson Education - You will NOT use Linux http://tinyurl.com/25sn354 or any non MS browser.... !microsoft !linux !windows !mvp !mvpbuzz | Aug 28 17:22 | |
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| gnufreex | I think they should just OEM Nokia | Aug 28 17:22 |
| gnufreex | If they want to go that route | Aug 28 17:22 |
| gnufreex | And make their own respin of MeeGo | Aug 28 17:23 |
| gnufreex | With a Red Hat | Aug 28 17:23 |
| oiaohm | If Redhat could get a solid deal with Nokia that would give them a good footing. | Aug 28 17:23 |
| oiaohm | Heck a solid deal with HTC would also be good. | Aug 28 17:23 |
| oiaohm | Remember HTC makes all of HP phones. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| gnufreex | Also, Nokia hatez Micorosfot and they could make deal about Qt development to counter Mono | Aug 28 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Basically either redhat needs to buy one or have a supply deal from one. | Aug 28 17:24 |
| oiaohm | Not having the hardware on tap is going to be a issue. | Aug 28 17:25 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] What is Interval Research Corporation? (Paul Allen's Patent Troll) http://ur1.ca/1chj5 #swpats #patents #uspto | Aug 28 17:25 | |
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| oiaohm | Remember MS does not make xbox's either they outsource to foxcomm that I recommend redhat stay well clear of. | Aug 28 17:25 |
| gnufreex | Foxconn... they are biggest mfr | Aug 28 17:26 |
| oiaohm | They might be | Aug 28 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm @gotunandan I explained hacker & cracker defs to a nongeek friend to whom it immediately made sense. Yet tech pubs keep repeati ... | Aug 28 17:27 | |
| oiaohm | But they are also the most likely to penny pinch too far and give you stacks and stacks of dead product. gnufreex | Aug 28 17:27 |
| gnufreex | I am thinking that RHT top priority now is to makes sure Novell doesn't get resurected. Or worse, get in wrong hands. | Aug 28 17:27 |
| oiaohm | Dead products would destory RHT brand name. | Aug 28 17:28 |
| oiaohm | So foxconn is not a company that does not have the means to run own quality control to go near. | Aug 28 17:28 |
| gnufreex | Nokia then. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| oiaohm | Ie don't trust foxconn quality control. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| gnufreex | Nokia is tom quality. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| oiaohm | HTC is trustable. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| oiaohm | As well. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| gnufreex | *top | Aug 28 17:29 |
| oiaohm | HTC and Nokia are about the same level. | Aug 28 17:29 |
| gnufreex | Where Motorola makes it's crap? | Aug 28 17:29 |
| oiaohm | From memory motorola makes there own. | Aug 28 17:31 |
| oiaohm | But after seeing motorala lemons I not game to say go near them. | Aug 28 17:31 |
| gnufreex | They are in DRMsters | Aug 28 17:31 |
| gnufreex | They should be shoot. | Aug 28 17:32 |
| gnufreex | 'nuff said about them | Aug 28 17:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yet another impressive example of #OAuth usability gone wrong: http://ur1.ca/1c0m4 (via @pla1 & @segphault) | Aug 28 17:32 | |
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| gnufreex | oiaohm: Now you just need to mail Jim Whitehurst to tell him :-) | Aug 28 17:35 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Avoids MPEG-LA's Latest Poison Pill and Rejects Patents Just Like #Samba Does http://ur1.ca/1ci21 #swpats #redhat | Aug 28 17:43 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] http://huff.to/dwGVnA "US could save $13 billion on #healthcare costs each year if 90% of women breastfed exclusively for 6 months." | Aug 28 17:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Severed Fifth rehearsal today - yeah! :-) #severedfifth | Aug 28 17:48 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Scientists Unveil Structure of Adenovirus http://bit.ly/9ku2Le | Aug 28 17:52 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[ruiseabra] RT @kanarip New post: "Step up, or shut up" http://tinyurl.com/2ag49zr | Aug 28 18:25 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z I am not advocating a law about breastfeeding. It's not necessary (solutions include education). Gisele advocated a law,rhetorically. | Aug 28 18:25 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z I am not sure it's 'trolling' to simply put forward or defend one's honest position on something. | Aug 28 18:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz What is Interval Research Corporation? (Paul Allen's Patent Troll) http://ur1.ca/1chj5 #swpats #patents #uspto | Aug 28 18:37 | |
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| gnufreex | Interesting thing: Oracle could make a MESS recently with Sun RPC in glibc. | Aug 28 18:39 |
| gnufreex | They could sue FSF. | Aug 28 18:40 |
| gnufreex | Yet they just relicenced the code to BSD | Aug 28 18:40 |
| gnufreex | So they are not out to get us like Floyd is claiming. | Aug 28 18:40 |
| gnufreex | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/of-course-microsoft-loves-open-source/7223 | Aug 28 18:46 |
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| gnufreex | Told him that here. | Aug 28 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @richroast We have over 100 tutorials now! Get it done with @PeppermintOS. | http://is.gd/eIyFB | Aug 28 18:47 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Why SchoolOS will win - http://dileeprocks.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/schoolos/ {voice from ground} | Aug 28 18:53 | |
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| gnufreex | http://seerpress.com/open-source-diaspora-set-launch-date/4941/ | Aug 28 18:54 |
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| gnufreex | Mr. Zuckerberg richly deserves bancrupcy. Lets give it to him for free! | Aug 28 18:55 |
| MinceR | if only i could | Aug 28 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | So uhmm | Aug 28 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | guys | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm | Aug 28 19:04 |
| gnufreex | MinceR You can, use Diaspora. | Aug 28 19:04 |
| gnufreex | Instead Faceboik | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | Itunes and Ipod in WIndows virtual mahcine | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | should be alright I guess | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | with Mandriva as the host OS :) | Aug 28 19:04 |
| gnufreex | Yeah | Aug 28 19:04 |
| gnufreex | It should work in VM | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | yeah thats what I thought | Aug 28 19:04 |
| MinceR | i don't use facebook | Aug 28 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | also programs like Banshee can sync it I think, and yes I know a Mono app | Aug 28 19:04 |
| MinceR | yet zuckerberg isn't bankrupt yet | Aug 28 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | I was just trying to explain to my older brother about virtual machine :) | Aug 28 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | I think he sort of understood | Aug 28 19:05 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: Didn't you hear? Zuckeberg sold Facebook 10x before he made it, Real owners are showing up now. They will beat him up | Aug 28 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | and I even tried to explain about the hidden .folders in Home | Aug 28 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | how .mozilla is the Firefox profile and if thats removed, and Firefox is re opended, its like it was just used for the first time | Aug 28 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | and | Aug 28 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | how the virtual hard disks are in .virtualbox and such | Aug 28 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | normally hopefuly the lap top I am thinking of him getting, works well enough with Mandriva, seems it will be alright | Aug 28 19:07 |
| sebsebseb | now not normally above | Aug 28 19:07 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: He made sites for people for money. And he made facebook like that. And he needs to turn it over now. But he lies... it was on EL REG | Aug 28 19:07 |
| gnufreex | Btw, I am not using Facebook or any other social network. | Aug 28 19:08 |
| gnufreex | But I will check into this Diaspora thing | Aug 28 19:08 |
| gnufreex | To see what's about. | Aug 28 19:08 |
| schestowitz | [18:55] <gnufreex> Mr. Zuckerberg richly deserves bancrupcy. Lets give it to him for free! | Aug 28 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Is that what Moglen said/ | Aug 28 19:13 |
| gnufreex | Yes | Aug 28 19:13 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, he said something similar | Aug 28 19:13 |
| gnufreex | I forgot where I heard it | Aug 28 19:13 |
| gnufreex | It is moglen | Aug 28 19:13 |
| gnufreex | Thanks for reminding me. | Aug 28 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Someone asked me to delete his FB-I account for him | Aug 28 19:13 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't know how to. Fb-I hid that option | Aug 28 19:14 |
| schestowitz | You need to hard-paste a URL into the address bar | Aug 28 19:14 |
| gnufreex | Yes, I had problems. But google search helps | Aug 28 19:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: the Freedom in the Cloud talk | Aug 28 19:14 |
| gnufreex | I think explanation is not on Facebook | Aug 28 19:14 |
| gnufreex | Some other site | Aug 28 19:14 |
| schestowitz | I put that as ogg in techrights | Aug 28 19:15 |
| gnufreex | Facebook doesnot tell how to remove | Aug 28 19:15 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: but I heard they would make it simpler | Aug 28 19:15 |
| MinceR | "FB-I" :D | Aug 28 19:15 |
| gnufreex | The Freedom in the Cloud | Aug 28 19:15 |
| schestowitz | It's like getting off AOL !! | Aug 28 19:15 |
| gnufreex | That was the talk | Aug 28 19:15 |
| gnufreex | Thanks | Aug 28 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaaAYVUWP0I | Aug 28 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | must watch | Aug 28 19:16 |
| gnufreex | Diaspora is what Moglen was talking about? He said we will screw facebook with mobile phones and home servers. I remember the talk now. | Aug 28 19:17 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 28 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it didn't exist at the time | Aug 28 19:18 |
| schestowitz | His talk is old | Aug 28 19:18 |
| gnufreex | Yes, Disaspora just launched | Aug 28 19:18 |
| gnufreex | But he was talking about plans | Aug 28 19:18 |
| gnufreex | It didn't have a name | Aug 28 19:19 |
| MinceR | afaik the idea of diaspora is the same as what he talked about | Aug 28 19:20 |
| gnufreex | That is what I am saying. It was just a plan back then | Aug 28 19:20 |
| gnufreex | And nobody beleived. | Aug 28 19:20 |
| gnufreex | They have given him that LooK | Aug 28 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] plasma-desktop scripting console win: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=89940&p=168624 | Aug 28 19:22 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh. Buying John Lennon's loo. maybe that buyer wants to get closer to John Lennon and all that ***t | Aug 28 19:22 |
| gnufreex | It is not that old talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7LVZON5uRQ&feature=related | Aug 28 19:23 |
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| gnufreex | Notice the pink glasses | Aug 28 19:23 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he gave it multiple times, I think | Aug 28 19:23 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: get ready for "eben is my homeboy" tshirts | Aug 28 19:23 |
| schestowitz | http://geekz.co.uk/shop/store/show/knuth-tshirt | Aug 28 19:24 |
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| gnufreex | Haha... | Aug 28 19:24 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Full-Body Scanners Deployed In Street-Roving Vans http://bit.ly/91OgC5 | Aug 28 19:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] I always enjoy mentoring students. Wish I could be a Prof. | Aug 28 19:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] Got an HTC Wildfire, enjoying infringing Oracle patents by using Dalvik Java. Time to join the US trial to avoid a Google "compromise" | Aug 28 19:26 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Got an HTC Wildfire, enjoying infringing Oracle patents by using Dalvik..Time to join the US trial to avoid a Google "compromise" | Aug 28 19:29 | |
| gnufreex | So AOL don't want to cancel accounts? | Aug 28 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Some !Android Developers Frustrated with Google’s laissez faire Marketplace. It's too hard to make money, apparently http://ow.ly/2wco0 | Aug 28 19:37 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: they try to tire you first | Aug 28 19:45 |
| schestowitz | like _Goblin with Acer | Aug 28 19:45 |
| MinceR | man who run in front of car get tired | Aug 28 19:46 |
| MinceR | man who run behind of car get exhausted | Aug 28 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Who's the person that #EbenMoglen mentioned in his #debconf who said it's hard to run a mail server? !freedombox | Aug 28 19:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software Freedom Law Center Opening Branch in India to Serve Global #FLOSS Developers - #sflc http://ow.ly/2wcyV | Aug 28 19:52 | |
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| MinceR | s/ of// | Aug 28 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Man who runs inside car gets suffocated | Aug 28 19:57 |
| MinceR | pun not found | Aug 28 19:57 |
| schestowitz | 'New Dehli Office Headed by Mishi Choudhary' | Aug 28 19:57 |
| schestowitz | opposite of SHIMI | Aug 28 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thestreet.com/story/10845218/1/stock-market-story-aug-26.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN | Aug 28 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | But still, it's over 9,000 | Aug 28 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.kippreport.com/2010/08/the-six-degrees-of-eric-schmidt/ | Aug 28 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | What's the matter with his skin? | Aug 28 20:04 |
| MinceR | his own evilness is taking its toll | Aug 28 20:05 |
| schestowitz | i4i guy has similar skin | Aug 28 20:06 |
| gnufreex | I can even se a horn starting to show... | Aug 28 20:07 |
| gnufreex | ... or it is just a zit | Aug 28 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/402264/ | Aug 28 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: nope | Aug 28 20:08 |
| schestowitz | He's just excited to see you | Aug 28 20:08 |
| gnufreex | haha | Aug 28 20:08 |
| gnufreex | Novell borked Java | Aug 28 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Did they? | Aug 28 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Schmidt was working on it | Aug 28 20:12 |
| gnufreex | I was just making fun of security alert. | Aug 28 20:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/breaking/walter-reed-concedes-nuclear-material-violation-101565488.html | Aug 28 20:13 |
| schestowitz | No-one in Manhattan was hurt, so no big deal | Aug 28 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | "The NRC warned in an Aug. 9 letter to Walter Reed commander Col. Novell V. Coots that it is considering..." | Aug 28 20:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: there's one for opera too | Aug 28 20:14 |
| gnufreex | Well Novell b0rks everythign | Aug 28 20:15 |
| gnufreex | 1 | Aug 28 20:15 |
| gnufreex | ! | Aug 28 20:15 |
| gnufreex | NoWell | Aug 28 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 66 de ani după 23 August http://is.gd/eIF7A #romania #monarchy #wwii | Aug 28 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 66 Years after August 23th http://is.gd/eIFmh #romania #monarchy #wwii | Aug 28 20:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4447903 | Aug 28 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wall Street Rallies On Bernanke Comments, Citigroup (NYSE: C) Soars | iStockAnalyst.com .::. Size~: 62.54 KB | Aug 28 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Bennie could short-sell | Aug 28 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I never thought os NoWell | Aug 28 20:26 |
| schestowitz | I'll use that! | Aug 28 20:26 |
| schestowitz | os/of/ | Aug 28 20:26 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Software Freedom Law Center in #India http://ur1.ca/1c2o0 I think the #SFLC put the same paragraph twice here by accident | Aug 28 20:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] MIT Unveils Oil-Skimming Robot Swarm Prototype http://bit.ly/cpXGXJ | Aug 28 20:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Software Freedom Law Center to Announce Opening of Branch in India to Serve Global FLOSS Developers - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 8.28 KB | Aug 28 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | Intel falls short on quarterly numbers http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2268894/intel-falls-short-quarterly | Aug 28 20:48 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] "Yep, six organic, whole food, vegetarian, socialist, grammar school educated eggs. I think I paid their fucking school fees as well." | Aug 28 20:49 | |
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| schestowitz | The future of Solaris | Aug 28 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://dtrace.org/blogs/ahl/2010/08/27/the-future-of-solaris/ | Aug 28 21:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @kanarip: @lstench: Fedora has a great XFCE LiveCD for you to try; http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora Thanks to Christoph Wickert ;-) | Aug 28 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: YouTube" Barbie Gets Hacked! http://is.gd/eImGI Me: I didn't even know there was a Barbie with a videocam! | Aug 28 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @violetaloredana: 'Anti-Facebook' eyes launch date http://ow.ly/2w8Tf An open alternative to Facebook will be launched on the 15 Sept. | Aug 28 21:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/204011/glassesfree_3dtvs_coming_this_year_courtesy_of_toshiba.html?tk=hp_new | Aug 28 21:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Glasses-Free 3DTVs Coming This Year Courtesy Of Toshiba? - PCWorld .::. Size~: 75.19 KB | Aug 28 21:24 |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Machining a TI-89 Out of Aluminum http://bit.ly/9wq4t1 | Aug 28 21:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @SultanAlQassemi Less hate & more of this: Muslims & Jews gather in Cambridge to break a fast, & raise money for Pakistan flood victims. | Aug 28 21:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: HTML5 Sandboxes for Safety http://bit.ly/91Gv43 #HTML5 | Aug 28 21:27 | |
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| gnufreex | Did anyone see this: | Aug 28 21:28 |
| gnufreex | http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Paul+Allen+harassment&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | Aug 28 21:28 |
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| MinceR | i didn't | Aug 28 21:29 |
| gnufreex | It was more results yesterday. | Aug 28 21:29 |
| gnufreex | Basicaly 15 Paul Allen harassment articles | Aug 28 21:30 |
| gnufreex | Some dude on /. said to google it to find about Paul Allen | Aug 28 21:30 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Is Paul Allend conected to Intelectual Ventures... I mean is there any evidence? Microsofties are denying it as allways... | Aug 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz | He was cleared | Aug 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz | I looked it up last night, remember? | Aug 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no, not IV | Aug 28 21:32 |
| gnufreex | Forgot. | Aug 28 21:32 |
| gnufreex | I know he has his own patent trolling company | Aug 28 21:33 |
| gnufreex | Which is obviously conected to Microsoft, since he is shareholder. | Aug 28 21:33 |
| gnufreex | That is enough, I guess. | Aug 28 21:33 |
| gnufreex | Gotta go, bye | Aug 28 21:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @richslxh: OMG! Sexy chic moaning your IP address: http://www.moanmyip.com/ Whatever next?! !linux !football #share #with #buddies #funny | Aug 28 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @yuichi: A new web site for verifying hardware compatibility with free distros http://www.h-node.com/ !libreplanet !fsf !fsfe !gnu | Aug 28 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CyanogenMod-6.0! | CyanogenMod http://ow.ly/2wdKu | Aug 28 21:42 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #Microsoft is essentially the offspring of a tryst between the Mafia and Amway. | Aug 28 22:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z @qu1j0t3 You're right, I guess it's not trolling. I'm disagreeing w/hope of causing a fight :-) //i.e. "you disagree", fight a bonus | Aug 28 22:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z re #breastfeeding, yes laws are proposed in the article, but they are about ensuring public facilities for the activity | Aug 28 22:26 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Some Windows Apps Make GRUB 2 Unbootable http://bit.ly/ajznTi | Aug 28 22:26 | |
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| MinceR | great | Aug 28 22:28 |
| MinceR | more malware you can buy | Aug 28 22:28 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- "BEWARE OF COMING POLICE STATE" SAYS SENIOR LAWYER http://youtu.be/d9GwuRjxU-Y?a | Aug 28 22:34 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: Sweaty smiles | Aug 28 22:36 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/lSlBV.png | Aug 28 22:38 |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 28/8/2010: #Diaspora Coming Within Weeks, #SFLC Now in India Too http://ur1.ca/1ck5a #gnu #linux #roundup #techrights | Aug 28 22:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 28/8/2010: #Diaspora Coming Within Weeks, !SFLC Now in India Too http://ur1.ca/1ck5a !gnu !linux #roundup !techrights | Aug 28 22:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Met Novalis for lunch. Thanked him for his middle-period work on #SunRPC (but he didn't remember it) & discussed various other !FaiF things. | Aug 28 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Support enlightened fiscal policy http://ur1.ca/1ckel | Aug 28 23:22 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Quick Mention: #Novell Does Not Support #OpenOffice .org Like it Used to http://ur1.ca/1cka8 #odf #oracle | Aug 28 23:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Anyone needs to hire an analog+digital+radio #electronics GENIUS? I know such a person who needs work. #ButBeQuick | Aug 28 23:27 | |
| -TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] trying gwibber again | Aug 28 23:27 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Can an Open Source Map Project Make Money? http://bit.ly/bWtmBD | Aug 28 23:31 | |
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| -TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell is Not Well, Downgraded http://techrights.org/2010/08/28/s-and-p-is-downgrading-novell/ | Aug 28 23:33 | |
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