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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Pathologist: No evidence of murder http://ur1.ca/1ckq9Aug 29 00:22
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Awesome Severed Fifth rehearsal today! Made some great progress and the tunes are sounding great. :-) #severedfifthAug 29 00:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] What Pinball Looks Like When the Stakes Are High http://bit.ly/8Y1if7Aug 29 00:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] ur1.ca/1ckwp That's interesting.I wonder why the US mistreats visitors by scanning them without a search warrant. it's not 'reasonable' !effAug 29 00:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cars are being scanned http://ur1.ca/1cl1oAug 29 01:22
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Will Of The Force http://bit.ly/devM1AAug 29 01:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Windows applications making GRUB 2 unbootable: Colin Watson: "If you find that running Windows makes a GRUB 2-base... http://bit.ly/b08ql1Aug 29 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Possible poison attack by the Taliban http://ur1.ca/1cle3Aug 29 02:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] !fc That's interesting lesson: http://tinyogg.com/watch/Y5uVq/ #tinyoggAug 29 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "This Is Why I Need Your Support!" http://tinyogg.com/watch/iH3us/ #tinyogg !tpbAug 29 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "TPB AFK Last Day of the Trial 2009" http://tinyogg.com/watch/rbhLo/ #tinyogg !tpb #tpbafkAug 29 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @morpheuz Updates on Plasma land! - http://blog.morpheuz.cc/28/08/2010/updates-on-plasma-land/ #shareAug 29 03:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "The Pirate Bay - Away From Keyboard", a community-funded movie. https://flattr.com/thing/55612/ !flattr #tbpafkAug 29 03:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Aberdeen Airport protestors speak out http://ur1.ca/1clr5Aug 29 03:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Gecko Inspired Robot Climbs Walls at Stanford http://bit.ly/95ZYoeAug 29 03:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Gecko Inspired Robot Climbs Walls at Stanford .::. Size~: 49.62 KBAug 29 03:46
-TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] Law And Order In Canada – Robert Pickton, The Vancouver PD, And The RCMP http://bit.ly/9Hh5gVAug 29 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Los Angeles #Dodgers 3, Colorado Rockies 5. #LABaseball #DontLoseHopeAug 29 04:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] UNEP report relies too heavily on Shell http://ur1.ca/1cm33Aug 29 04:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final score: Baltimore Orioles 5, Los Angeles #Angels 0. #LABaseball #DontLoseHopeAug 29 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Iraq Body Count criticizes the Chilcot inquiry http://ur1.ca/1cme8Aug 29 05:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Comcast pressured to fire show host http://ur1.ca/1cmq7Aug 29 06:27
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] SCIENCE WILL FEED THE POOR WITH #GMO and #WAR WILL BRING US PEACE.Aug 29 06:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #SCO Sells Its Assets. Is #Xandros Next? http://techrights.org/2010/08/29/memories-of-linspire/Aug 29 06:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SCO Sells Its Few Remaining Assets. Is Xandros Next? | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.17 KBAug 29 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #SCO Sells Its Assets. Is #Xandros Next? http://techrights.org/2010/08/29/memories-of-linspire/ /via @schestowitzAug 29 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Java Abuse: public static void main was not invented here. http://ur1.ca/1cmz9Aug 29 07:17
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] a Student needed for creating GUI and other development of DebBundle - Offline Packages Installer. http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/Aug 29 07:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Researchers Cripple Pushdo Botnet http://bit.ly/bYNJXwAug 29 07:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Spreading The Word: Street Team Style - http://soc.li/ke8UhhZ #severedfifthAug 29 07:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: We are in the process of confirming our first gig, potentially followed by another. Stay tuned, folks!Aug 29 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Don't forget the fanatical Christians http://ur1.ca/1cn28Aug 29 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] When can I get to the moon? http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11.step.html #fbAug 29 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Kyrgyzstan is breaking apart http://ur1.ca/1cnehAug 29 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "the biggest beneficiaries of software patents are patent lawyers and patent trolls, not entrepreneurs." how true! http://ur1.ca/1cnsd #fbAug 29 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Why We Need To Abolish Software Patents | Vivek Wadhwa .::. Size~: 30.49 KBAug 29 09:22
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schestowitzand monopoly holdersAug 29 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Stupid patent - "activating a double click app with a single click!" duh! M$ has this patent from USPTO! http://tinyurl.com/32kkycs #fbAug 29 09:27
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @rcweir: Gartner: Upgrading to Windows 7 will cost between $1,274 and $2,069 per machine. http://bit.ly/9Vdp92 Good argument for LinuxAug 29 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gartner Says Demand for Highly Qualified Windows 7 Migration IT Personnel Will Exceed Supply in 2011 and 2012, Leading to Higher Service Rates .::. Size~: 39.11 KBAug 29 09:28
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Intel-Q3-2010-revenue-estimates/?kc=rssAug 29 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel lowers forecasts amidst weakening consumer demand - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.05 KBAug 29 09:28
schestowitzSecond dip?Aug 29 09:28
oiaohmReally with computers we are at saturtion point.Aug 29 09:29
oiaohmSo no more simple sales.Aug 29 09:29
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @einfeldt @rcweir that's the same #Gartner which told everyone #Vista would take over http://ur1.ca/1cntq #analystsAug 29 09:30
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schestowitzoiaohm: bring Vista back. People will need to find stronger hardwareAug 29 09:52
schestowitzhttp://www.serverwatch.com/trends/article.php/3900711/The-Top-10-Linux-Server-Distributions.htmAug 29 10:09
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] I am all alone for FOSS activities. If another Narendra joins me, my strength will be 10 times. Working from home (alone) is very difficult.Aug 29 10:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Jet Packs, Finally On Sale http://bit.ly/aoNETKAug 29 10:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @DiscJockeyEtc I've seen your bumper stickers. I got the message. I will free Tibet.Aug 29 10:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @schestowitz #Novell is Not Well, Downgraded http://techrights.org/2010/08/28/s-and-p-is-downgrading-novell/Aug 29 10:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @softmetz LQFB-Passwörter nicht mehr unverschlüsselt in der Datenbank speichern http://pplf.de/i839 | ouch. Schneier sauer ;-)Aug 29 10:28
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell is Not Well, Downgraded | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.19 KBAug 29 10:28
oiaohmNop schestowitz really what advantage over XP does Vista or Windows 7 really provide.Aug 29 10:32
oiaohmBasically nothing.Aug 29 10:32
oiaohmMS needs a way better quality OS.Aug 29 10:32
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Sarrazin - der Haider der SPD? Oder einfach nur das grösste Sommerloch des Jahres?Aug 29 10:43
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-socialAug 29 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/8/2010: #ZaReason Laptops, #Fennec for #Android and #Nokia N900 http://ur1.ca/1cokb !techrights #roundupAug 29 11:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Hiding Text From SE Crawlers http://www.willmaster.com/library/security/hiding-text-from-se-crawlers.phpAug 29 11:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 29/8/2010: #ZaReason Laptops, #Fennec for #Android and #Nokia N900 http://ur1.ca/1cokb #techrights #roundupAug 29 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hiding Text From SE Crawlers : Security and Blocking .::. Size~: 35.32 KBAug 29 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 29/8/2010: ZaReason Laptops, Fennec for Android and Nokia N900 | Techrights .::. Size~: 146.35 KBAug 29 11:28
schestowitzI'm trying pclos 2010.1 on 512mb of ramAug 29 11:39
schestowitzFrom a Live CD :-)Aug 29 11:39
schestowitzVery slowAug 29 11:39
oiaohmKey thing is keyboard working or playing up.Aug 29 11:41
schestowitzActually, that's another PCAug 29 11:42
schestowitzThis current one I had to restart KDE onAug 29 11:42
schestowitzThe keyboard just went deadAug 29 11:42
schestowitzBefore that I had slight monitor isuesAug 29 11:42
schestowitzMaybe a mobo issueAug 29 11:42
schestowitzPCLOS makes the mistake of requiring user login for live CDAug 29 11:43
oiaohmNot a mistake.Aug 29 11:43
oiaohmPrevents dumb idiots running it.Aug 29 11:44
oiaohmStrange.  Its normally keyboard controller then onboard audio then video card.Aug 29 11:45
oiaohmWhen a motherboard bites it.Aug 29 11:45
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oiaohmhttp://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2010/08/freezing-your-bits-off.html  Lets see who thinks the wrong thing.Aug 29 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HydraRaptor: Freezing your bits off .::. Size~: 69.09 KBAug 29 11:49
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Software which makes #GNU #Linux and Free software developers more accessible to #Microsoft continues to be developed http://ur1.ca/1coq6Aug 29 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono Accessibility for Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.34 KBAug 29 11:53
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] VITA Disaster Appears to Have Been Caused by #Microsoft #Windows http://ur1.ca/1cou3 #solaris #fud #gnu #linux #securityAug 29 12:28
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] I warned yesterday for problems with Gmail and was right. My account was compromised and the osgeex blog has been deleted. Thanks M$ $hill!Aug 29 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VITA Disaster Appears to Have Been Caused by Microsoft Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.7 KBAug 29 12:28
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] The Preisthood may as well rename itself the Paedophile Party, truth in advertising and all that http://bbc.in/b1dZTQAug 29 12:29
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] The #Windows Partition is Still a Danger to #GNU #Linux Partition/s http://ur1.ca/1cp3l #mbr #bootloader #grubAug 29 12:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Partition Still a Danger to GNU/Linux Partition/s | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.35 KBAug 29 12:56
oiaohmThat mono accessiblity is more of a risk then most are thinking.Aug 29 13:00
MinceRgeekingsAug 29 13:12
oiaohmhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100828132209651  Guess seen schestowitzAug 29 13:16
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Bill Gates Enrolls His Kids In Khan Academy http://bit.ly/a3ZwYwAug 29 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Bill Gates Enrolls His Kids In Khan Academy .::. Size~: 55.89 KBAug 29 13:28
MinceRKHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!Aug 29 13:30
MinceRstrange... "open source" is no longer a cancer then? or gate$ doesn't mind giving his children "cancer"?Aug 29 13:32
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] IDG's Fauxpen Source Blog Adds #Microsoft People http://ur1.ca/1cpdn #entryism #foss #idg #idc #gnu #fsfAug 29 13:44
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schestowitzoiaohm: yesAug 29 14:01
schestowitz[re groklaw]Aug 29 14:02
schestowitzoiaohm: how is mono accessiblity  a risk?Aug 29 14:02
schestowitzMinceR: who gives a blip about his kids?Aug 29 14:02
MinceRi doAug 29 14:02
MinceRthey carry his DNAAug 29 14:02
MinceRhe should have been sterilized already.Aug 29 14:03
schestowitzHe already pushed his spouse into the limelight even though she's irrelevant to anything technicalAug 29 14:03
schestowitzWell, they also inherit the foundryAug 29 14:03
MinceRwe have more than enough people and we have more than enough sociopathic assholes like gate$Aug 29 14:03
oiaohmAccessiblity development is something the Linux world needs for lots of markets including usage in schools.   schestowitzAug 29 14:03
schestowitzhe wants MOARAug 29 14:03
schestowitzHe taked his kid  (the boy) to his escapades sometimesAug 29 14:04
schestowitzoiaohm: ohAug 29 14:04
schestowitzSo you mean _lack_ of accessibility is a riskAug 29 14:04
schestowitzNot accessibilityAug 29 14:04
schestowitzSUN used to sponsor that in GNOMEAug 29 14:04
schestowitzOracle sank itAug 29 14:05
oiaohmLack of accessibliy is a issue.Aug 29 14:06
oiaohmMono getting its fangs in there is a area that cannot be just dropped at will.Aug 29 14:07
oiaohmFirst time Mono has a chance of bitting somewhere important.  schestowitzAug 29 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Attended an open source meeting yesterday. The mood is not good. Fear that Oracle will pull the plug on VBox, OO and MySqlAug 29 14:12
cubevectorit's better just to do upgrades yourselfAug 29 14:14
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] China Plans To Mine the Yellow Sea Floor http://bit.ly/brdCw6Aug 29 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Well, it's good to know identica hasn't totally taken over my life. #waketime was 2 hours ago & I just remembered to look here. It's quiet.Aug 29 14:47
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Some #Sanyo Products (Phones) Also Tainted by Microsoft 'Linux Tax' http://ur1.ca/1cpt7 #linux #swpats #kyocera #zioAug 29 14:52
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MinceRhttp://www.myextralife.com/comic/comic-get-with-the-program/Aug 29 15:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EXTRALIFE   By Scott Johnson - Comic: Get with the program .::. Size~: 43.81 KBAug 29 15:25
MinceRhttp://www.myextralife.com/comic/comic-anything-for-an-extra-bar/Aug 29 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EXTRALIFE   By Scott Johnson - Comic:  Anything for an extra bar .::. Size~: 48.15 KBAug 29 15:27
cubevectorheheAug 29 15:28
cubevectorhttp://www.myextralife.com/comic/a-flys-life/Aug 29 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EXTRALIFE   By Scott Johnson - A Flys Life .::. Size~: 42.39 KBAug 29 15:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Novell Links: Notes About #GroupWise , #FogComputing , #OpenSUSE , and Staff Moves http://ur1.ca/1cpyrAug 29 15:28
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cubevectorfunny stuff hereAug 29 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] CIOs seek special skills in Linux admins http://ur1.ca/1cq1s Too many jobs... not enough people... in #linuxAug 29 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CIOs seek special skills in Linux admins .::. Size~: 41.07 KBAug 29 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] "I think desktop #Linux application developers are soon going to be in short supply:" http://ur1.ca/1cq2mAug 29 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Last Temptation of the Linux Application Developer | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.51 KBAug 29 15:34
schestowitzGOOG becomes scary to more companies: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/08/27/googles-latest-moves-free-phone-calls-real-time-search/Aug 29 15:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Googles Latest Moves: Free Phone Calls & Real-Time Search | 80beats | Discover Magazine .::. Size~: 56.78 KBAug 29 15:34
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] The iPad As a Shape-Recognition System http://bit.ly/aTaHgcAug 29 15:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | The iPad As a Shape-Recognition System .::. Size~: 48.62 KBAug 29 15:46
schestowitzMac Asay tells us to stop being 'freetards' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/27/revenue_is_good/Aug 29 15:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dollars and sense: tech startups discover revenue is good • The Register .::. Size~: 29.12 KBAug 29 15:57
schestowitzChange... "Open...and Shut"Aug 29 15:57
schestowitzhttp://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/08/27/revenue_is_good/Aug 29 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 400 Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.3 KBAug 29 15:58
schestowitz"What is the canonical revenue situation?"Aug 29 15:58
schestowitzComment:"You can start a business, earn enough money to pay for your expenses and more salary and benefits than any job you had, or maybe a little less money and more hours but you are your own boss and you are doing what you love. I would consider that successful."Aug 29 16:00
schestowitzNot to everyoneAug 29 16:00
schestowitzAsk the megalomanicsAug 29 16:00
gnufreexhiAug 29 16:06
schestowitzHeyAug 29 16:11
schestowitzSee Mac's pieceAug 29 16:11
schestowitzHe wants to turn Ubuntu into a cash registerAug 29 16:11
schestowitzNow looking for consent in El RegAug 29 16:11
ThistleWeboh it may have been nothing, but last night one of the omgubuntu ops / forum mods (I can't remember which) asked to speak to a Mint op in irc, was told we do things in public, so they aksed if there's an op training program for trainee opsAug 29 16:12
ThistleWebpart of me wondered if it was a way to extend their influence to be able to kick people who were critical of omgubuntu and / or their chosen causesAug 29 16:13
schestowitzThistleWeb: I hope Canonical keeps Ubuntu freeAug 29 16:14
schestowitzIIRC Shuttlweworth did make such a promiseAug 29 16:14
schestowitzvAug 29 16:15
schestowitzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=260474Aug 29 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Will Ubuntu be always free of charge? - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 101.54 KBAug 29 16:15
schestowitzThey'll try to sell addonsAug 29 16:15
schestowitz'open' coreAug 29 16:15
schestowitzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworthAug 29 16:15
schestowitz"Ubuntu releases will always be free."Aug 29 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MarkShuttleworth - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 55.13 KBAug 29 16:15
schestowitzbblAug 29 16:15
ThistleWebit was probs nothing, it did have the feel of an overture to extend influence about itAug 29 16:16
cubevectorEllison really likes Sun:Aug 29 16:17
cubevectorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_%28yacht%29Aug 29 16:17
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cubevectorsome of those mega-yachts are like air craft carrier size :-0Aug 29 16:20
gnufreexschestowitz: They will probably rename it. It doesn't need to be free if it is not UbuntuAug 29 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? Is the Apple USB extender really non-standard? http://i.imgur.com/opkj8.jpg #fbAug 29 16:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Weekly Links #18 http://goo.gl/fb/RrYymAug 29 16:28
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Backing up my files to USB stick. All presentations done, including "32 Short Demos about ODF". Fly to Budapest overnight. #OOoConAug 29 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Weekly Links #18 .::. Size~: 34.77 KBAug 29 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see Software Freedom Law Center opening in Asia! http://ur1.ca/1c2o0 #fbAug 29 16:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Freedom Law Center to Announce Opening of Branch in India to Serve Global FLOSS Developers - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 8.28 KBAug 29 16:32
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] An ancient kernel hole is closed: LWN.net: "A longstanding bug in the Linux kernel�quite possibly since the first ... http://bit.ly/b9R43WAug 29 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - An ancient kernel hole is closed .::. Size~: 77.03 KBAug 29 16:36
gnufreexMicrosoft will go wild nowAug 29 16:38
gnufreexClaiming that Linux is not indestructable, so nobody should use itAug 29 16:39
gnufreex* I meant microsoftiesAug 29 16:39
gnufreexand fanboysAug 29 16:39
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @BR3NDA: RT @kingdomofwench: Wow that's classy, Microsoft. I can't even open my ebooks on the COMPUTER I ORIGINALLY READ THEM ON.Aug 29 16:40
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @BR3NDA: RT @kingdomofwench: I mean, really, I seriously enjoy being punished for legitimately purchasing content.Aug 29 16:41
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] .@kingdomofwench maybe u shd try Linux. There is no lockdown w Linux.Aug 29 16:44
-TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] Reading Judge Sam Sparks Ruling in ICR v. Texas Higher Ed Coordinating Board on Scribd http://scr.bi/a1ClIa #readcastAug 29 16:50
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gnufreexDoes AZUNE use Hadoop? They first rejected it, then decided to use it... and then again deny that they are using itAug 29 16:50
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Microsoft's Security Development Process Under CC License http://bit.ly/b0OztPAug 29 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Check this video out -- How to live a money-less life by Mark Boyle youtube.com/watch?v=cyqavz… via @youtubeAug 29 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Check this video out -- How to live a money-less life by Mark Boyle http://t.co/IpnhbkR via @youtubeAug 29 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] GohKengSwee invoked by PM during this chinese 7th "ghost" month to fire up the "singapore spirit". Hmm. #fbAug 29 17:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- How to live a money-less life by Mark Boyle .::. Size~: 96.88 KBAug 29 17:27
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] here we are, after decades of corporate brainwashing: it is common for parents to train their 2 year olds to drink Coke and eat junk #food.Aug 29 17:28
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] Reminder: we will be installing Linux computers in schools today. Call me @ 415-351-1300 if u wanna help!Aug 29 17:28
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] What else is a young child going to consider 'food',but what parents teach? basic failure of parenting that will cost child lifelong #healthAug 29 17:28
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #oed, greatest #English dictionary, soon online only? http://bit.ly/d0fFRUAug 29 17:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oxford English Dictionary may soon only be available online - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 73.84 KBAug 29 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen very hard to break negative behaviour passed from generation to generation. Somewhere light has to shine in... #parentingAug 29 17:36
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen Dietary habits are a very illustrative example. Kids copy parents. Worst of all the corp mantra that junk #food is a treatAug 29 17:37
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Really? Is the Apple USB extender really non-standard? http://i.imgur.com/opkj8.jpg #fbAug 29 17:37
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen how industrial ag & sugar-water-vendors have corrupted our once-perfect dietary knowledge, is an immense horror. #healthAug 29 17:38
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen Yes - we need to be consciously rewiring our thinking all the time - static,closed mind is to putrefy, like standing waterAug 29 17:40
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen oh gawd yes, the false god of #convenience, don't get me startedAug 29 17:41
schestowitz"And I'd hate to give up easy access to the mountains, both for skiing and biking. Silicon Valley simply has nothing to compare to Utah's mountains."Aug 29 17:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@thevillagegreen And day by day all the predicted (and irreversible) negative consequences of #gmo hackery are revealing themselves.Aug 29 17:43
schestowitz"This is where life stinks: the trade-offs. But it's also what makes life rich. " http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/08/missing-palo-alto.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Acos+%28AC%2FOS%29 (asay on choice)Aug 29 17:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AC/OS: Missing Palo Alto .::. Size~: 52.99 KBAug 29 17:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@Ken_Donnelly Planes also cannot land if your tray table is down, #duhAug 29 17:44
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 how industrial ag & sugar-water-vendors have corrupted our once-perfect dietary knowledge, is an immense horror. #healthAug 29 17:45
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] 7 Job Interview Questions to Ask a Network Administrator Candidate http://is.gd/eK2xZ Me: I'm a toaster myself. ;-)Aug 29 17:45
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schestowitzhttp://timothyblee.com/2010/08/26/conservatives-and-limited-government/ 'Is the Tea Party “the most dynamic anti-big government political movement in modern American politics?” I think it’s helpful here to unpack the concept of “anti-big government,” because the right uses it in a peculiar and rather perverse fashion.'Aug 29 17:45
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] If I were a little richer and a little more retired, I'd pass on the armadillo skin posing pouch and buy the big paper edition #OED instead.Aug 29 17:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/caro/status/21510641228 "Facebook has confirmed to me that the @facebookplaces Twitter account is a hoax. #cnet"Aug 29 17:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Caroline McCarthy: Facebook has confirmed to  ... .::. Size~: 12.02 KBAug 29 17:51
schestowitzNow suspendedAug 29 17:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/21517973215Aug 29 17:52
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schestowitzGoogle will give 'em hellAug 29 17:52
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] As errors grow, so does a credibility gap http://is.gd/eK33W All too true, and it will only get worst in journalism.Aug 29 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Andrew Alexander - As errors grow, so does a credibility gap .::. Size~: 86.34 KBAug 29 17:52
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @tllanes [Palin] is a hateful, bigoted demagogue who lacks all credibility, credentials, & has no legit place in public discourse. #tcotAug 29 17:55
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @sjvn As errors grow, so does a credibility gap http://is.gd/eK33W > moreover, a lot of publications recite without scepticismAug 29 17:55
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schestowitzhttp://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3236514/canonical-adds-touch-support-to-ubuntu/?olo=rssAug 29 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical adds touch support to Ubuntu - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 107.93 KBAug 29 18:07
schestowitzHype on Ubuntu's sideAug 29 18:07
schestowitzI hope they will carry it upstream like they promiseAug 29 18:07
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-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Playing in theatres would help legitimise the occupation, well done those actors http://bit.ly/dpSll1Aug 29 18:28
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Did he advocate sharing the licence fee while he was in charge? #BBC #hypocrisy http://bit.ly/auELgiAug 29 18:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Schneier: "the police needed a warrant before they can use a thermal sensor" http://ur1.ca/1cr0y slavery=cheap; liberty=expensiveAug 29 18:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] What 'IT' Stuff Should We Teach Ninth-Graders? http://bit.ly/ai1f39Aug 29 18:28
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schestowitzcAug 29 18:32
schestowitzhttp://radar.oreilly.com/2010/08/be-innovative-but-dont-use-tha.htmlAug 29 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Be innovative, but don't use that word - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 23.97 KBAug 29 18:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.tcbreview.com/what-women-want-and-how-not-to-give-it-to-them.phpAug 29 18:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Women Want and How NOT to Give It to Them - The Conference Board Review - Ideas and Opinions for the World's Business Leaders .::. Size~: 45.03 KBAug 29 18:39
schestowitz"thought-provoking piece about the ways in which corporate diversity efforts fail. Must read."Aug 29 18:39
schestowitzgnufreex: UbuntuOneAug 29 18:39
schestowitzre branding to evade promiseAug 29 18:39
schestowitz"Ubuntu will always be free..."Aug 29 18:39
gnufreexYepAug 29 18:39
schestowitzNot UbuntuOneAug 29 18:39
schestowitzSame with Java at SUNAug 29 18:39
gnufreexnymshift to promise-evadeAug 29 18:39
schestowitzORLY still with the 2.0 nonsense. http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/08/applying-the-lessons-of-enterp.htmlAug 29 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Applying the lessons of Enterprise 2.0 to Gov 2.0 - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 26.12 KBAug 29 18:40
schestowitzWill ORLY 2.0 care more about freedom?Aug 29 18:40
schestowitzZDNet troll http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/ubuntu-linux-i-like-it-but-it-doesnt-like-me/13750Aug 29 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Linux: I like it, but it doesn't like me | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 133.27 KBAug 29 18:41
schestowitzSpot the troll patterm: "I like Linux, but...."Aug 29 18:41
schestowitzhttp://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/reflecting-on-the-gulf-of-mexico-from-the-nor/blog/26198Aug 29 18:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reflecting on the Gulf of Mexico from the North Sea | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 92.48 KBAug 29 18:43
gnufreexschestowitz: What happened with Java ?Aug 29 18:45
-TRT/#techrights-[aondo] Darktable 0.6 is out, with many new features. Really shaping up to have the best work flow for digital photos. http://is.gd/eK6DZAug 29 18:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: darktable | news .::. Size~: 10.68 KBAug 29 18:45
gnufreex[19:39:21] <schestowitz> Same with Java at SUNAug 29 18:45
gnufreex?Aug 29 18:45
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] >@jdub #Microsoft can move incredibly quickly and competently when focused on [extortion]Aug 29 18:46
ThistleWebrofl did you read the comments from Loverock Davidson on that znet peice?Aug 29 18:50
ThistleWebI needed a good laughAug 29 18:50
ThistleWebFUD circa 2000 spewed out with passionAug 29 18:51
schestowitzhttp://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/nuclear-news-indias-lower-house-passes-foreig/blog/26276Aug 29 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nuclear News: India's Lower House Passes Foreign Nuclear Power Plants Bill | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 87.95 KBAug 29 18:52
schestowitzgnufreex:Sun's commitment to FOSSAug 29 18:52
ThistleWebtelnet ports, kernel compiling, worms etc, it's hilariousAug 29 18:54
schestowitzThistleWeb: "Why do you guys feed the trolls?"Aug 29 18:55
ThistleWebyeah I read thatAug 29 18:55
cubevectorhmm?Aug 29 18:55
schestowitzThistleWeb: I think it's like that other satirist they used to have thereAug 29 18:56
schestowitzI can't recall his name, but he created a blogAug 29 18:56
schestowitzThistleWeb: this dude is a joker/troller: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/personal-computer-security-using-uncommon-sense/13878Aug 29 18:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Personal Computer Security: Using Uncommon Sense | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 144 KBAug 29 18:57
schestowitzSee his images and videosAug 29 18:57
schestowitzIt's tabloidAug 29 18:57
cubevectoris there a good way to reset the text console if it gets messed up?Aug 29 18:58
gnufreexschestowitz: Sun was commited for real, until the aquisition talks. Then they turned Open-Core to increase price because it is easier to kill Open Core project.Aug 29 18:59
gnufreexAnd Oracle is interested in killing...Aug 29 18:59
gnufreexIt seemsAug 29 18:59
schestowitzcubevector: like clrscr?Aug 29 19:03
schestowitzgnufreex: Oracle wants the hardware and patentsAug 29 19:03
gnufreexI am not sure what Oracle wants now.Aug 29 19:04
gnufreexThey are making JavaFX user interface of OpenOffice. JavaFX is propriataryAug 29 19:04
gnufreexI thought I know what they wantAug 29 19:04
gnufreexBut you need an oracle to see what Oracle wantsAug 29 19:05
schestowitzOracle's CEO always wanted to be the richest and most powerfulAug 29 19:08
schestowitzHe and STeveAug 29 19:08
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gnufreexI think someone needs to sink his yacht. Who have patent on yachts?Aug 29 19:12
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_patentAug 29 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Submarine patent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 36.36 KBAug 29 19:12
gnufreexHahaAug 29 19:12
gnufreexhttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/5313905.htmlAug 29 19:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twin wing sailing yacht - Patent 5313905 .::. Size~: 92.04 KBAug 29 19:14
gnufreexI don't know who own that patentAug 29 19:14
schestowitzhttp://slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/curiosities/2010/bees_under_glass.htmAug 29 19:14
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gnufreexDoesn't matter, it looks like Elison's yacht is not 'twing wing'Aug 29 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @torproject We are looking for even more translators. We have some funding and lots of cool t-shirts! Please email tor-translation ...Aug 29 19:22
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sebsebsebHiAug 29 19:23
gnufreexhiAug 29 19:24
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-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] When creationists go ... really weird. http://www.alienintrusion.com/main.htmlAug 29 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Monkey rides a goat [video] http://ur1.ca/1crgxAug 29 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alien Intrusion - Official Website .::. Size~: 23.01 KBAug 29 19:28
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Sony Continues To Lose Ground In Mobile Gaming http://bit.ly/bqWSl8Aug 29 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | Sony Continues To Lose Ground In Mobile Gaming .::. Size~: 50.75 KBAug 29 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] The stupid, it *actually* burns. http://is.gd/eKascAug 29 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police: Man caught self on fire trying to steal gas from church van » Evansville Courier & Press .::. Size~: 143.13 KBAug 29 19:38
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*sebsebseb Is backAug 29 19:45
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schestowitzwb, sebsebseb. any news?Aug 29 19:50
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sebsebsebschestowitz: what kind of news?Aug 29 19:51
cubevectorgood news :)Aug 29 19:52
cubevectorpeople like to hear good newsAug 29 19:52
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/26/sumos_get_pads/ iOkozunaAug 29 19:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sumo scandal gets iPad relief • The Register .::. Size~: 25.7 KBAug 29 19:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: actsaully I did read interesting news last nightAug 29 19:54
sebsebsebLinux and such newsAug 29 19:54
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/203360/apple_forums_to_become_apple_support_communities.html?tk=rss_newsAug 29 19:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Forums to Become 'Apple Support Communities' - PCWorld .::. Size~: 67.66 KBAug 29 19:55
schestowitzVolunteersAug 29 19:55
schestowitzSheep for hireAug 29 19:55
schestowitzApple makes money from OS XAug 29 19:55
schestowitzCan't it offer support?Aug 29 19:55
cubevectorit can offer support for $$$Aug 29 19:56
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/24/kim_cameron_on_apple_privacy_policy/Aug 29 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft ID guru slams 'duplicitous' Apple • The Register .::. Size~: 27.32 KBAug 29 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] !NYC, if it isn't service dog assisting you, leave beast outside of cramped store, esp. if you plan to chastize clerk. ur1.ca/1crsl for moreAug 29 20:02
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The patent raider http://www.osnews.com/story/23740/Paul_Allen_Files_Patent_Suit_Against_Apple_Google_Others #internetAug 29 20:28
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii he learned from Bill and NathanMAug 29 20:30
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/16/google-gets-bbc-exec-to-manage-news-books-partnershipsAug 29 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Gets BBC Exec To Manage News, Books Deals | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.69 KBAug 29 20:34
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/18/google-tv-not-a-hit-with-major-networksAug 29 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google TV Not A Hit With Major Networks | WebProNews .::. Size~: 35.6 KBAug 29 20:37
schestowitzTrue: http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/41275-warning-google-aims-to-dominate-unified-comms-and-collab-marketAug 29 20:37
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/26/search-for-google-music-chief-may-be-underwayAug 29 20:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Search For Google Music Chief May Be Underway  | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.06 KBAug 29 20:44
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Google is becoming an opportunity/threat to VoIP market, let's hope for SIP http://ur1.ca/1cqjgAug 29 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: 1 million Gmail calls on first day - CNN.com .::. Size~: 37.39 KBAug 29 20:46
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Brazil Using Smartphones For Planning the Future http://bit.ly/cFUAaMAug 29 20:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Brazil Using Smartphones For Planning the Future .::. Size~: 49.66 KBAug 29 20:55
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/15/nyt-hp-staff-despised-hurdAug 29 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NYT: HP Staff Despised Hurd | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.51 KBAug 29 20:56
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0815/soldiers-ptsd-personality-disorder/Aug 29 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Soldiers with PTSD dismissed, told they have personality disorder |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 54.59 KBAug 29 20:57
schestowitzTreating N. Korea like a rogue nation: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/357103/north_korea_jumps_onto_twitter?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 http://www.pcworld.com/article/203324/north_korea_jumps_onto_twitter.html?tk=rss_newsAug 29 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: North Korea jumps onto Twitter - internet, Internet-based applications and services, social media, twitter - Techworld .::. Size~: 48.18 KBAug 29 21:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/16/craigslist_murder_death/Aug 29 21:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Craigslist 'killer' kills himself • The Register .::. Size~: 25.44 KBAug 29 21:02
schestowitzBBC describes minimalist people as "cult" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10928032 daemonisation funded by taxpayers (not the 'cult')Aug 29 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Cult of less: Living out of a hard drive .::. Size~: 57.83 KBAug 29 21:05
schestowitzconsumerism propaganda comes a lot of times via TV/broadcastAug 29 21:05
schestowitz"Shop till you drop"Aug 29 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: Fennec Alpha Released pour Android http://didier.misson.net/blog/2010/08/29/fennec-alpha-released-pour-android/Aug 29 21:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fennec Alpha Released pour Android «  Un peu de tout .::. Size~: 97.36 KBAug 29 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: "the biggest beneficiaries of software patents are patent trolls, not entrepreneurs." how true! http://ur1.ca/1cnsd #fbAug 29 21:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/16/andoid_stalking_app/Aug 29 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android app secretly uploads GPS data, warns Symantec • The Register .::. Size~: 26.93 KBAug 29 21:24
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] RT @OLPC XO Laptop Helps Healing in Haiti. http://www.haitipartners.org/2010/08/xo-laptop-helps-healing/Aug 29 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: XO Laptop Helps Healing «  HaitiPartners.org .::. Size~: 25.07 KBAug 29 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Software which makes !GNU !Linuxmore accessible to #Microsoft continues to be developed http://ur1.ca/1coq6Aug 29 21:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono Accessibility for Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.57 KBAug 29 21:32
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Don't let the kids use Microsoft Bong [sic] search http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0817/florida-mom-arrested-pic-baby-bong/Aug 29 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Florida mom arrested after pic of baby with bong |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 43.41 KBAug 29 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft Still Sabotages #Linux MBRs in #Vista 7 http://is.gd/eKi71 #gnuAug 29 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: The #Windows Partition is Still a Danger to #GNU #Linux Partition/s http://ur1.ca/1cp3l #mbr #bootloader #grubAug 29 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: ♻ @bugabundo: #Android growth may give #Apple, #RIM some pause http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/jZkKCeUMnXQ/1278714005Aug 29 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Some #Sanyo Products (Phones) Also Tainted by Microsoft 'Linux Tax' http://ur1.ca/1cpt7 !linux #swpats #kyocera #zioAug 29 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mjjzf: Any of you !Linux or #AGPL-minded folks know of a system like #Glossword which /doesn't/ require an entire fresh #Joomla install?Aug 29 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: "I think desktop !Linux application developers are soon going to be in short supply:" http://ur1.ca/1cq2mAug 29 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @b3rsam: Blue Screen Of Death , an in-joke to those who are familiar with <s>Windows</s>. http://u.nu/4neze !linux :DAug 29 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: Really? Is the Apple USB extender really non-standard? http://i.imgur.com/opkj8.jpg #fbAug 29 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @azzorcist: Where can I find a list of !Linux supported mobile modem? I can see some in NetworkManager's Wikipedia page.Aug 29 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: Nice to see Software Freedom Law Center opening in Asia! http://ur1.ca/1c2o0 #fbAug 29 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @tonicucoz: please visit www.h-node.com and help the project by adding your hardware!! !fsfla !gnu !trisquelAug 29 21:47
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Intel To Buy Smartphone Chipmaker Infineon For $2B http://bit.ly/cnlArOAug 29 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Google is becoming an opportunity/threat to #VoIP market, let's hope for #SIP http://ur1.ca/1cqjgAug 29 21:52
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @slashdot Intel To Buy Smartphone Chipmaker Infineon For $2B http://bit.ly/cnlArO > who needs diversity? Saturation? What's that?Aug 29 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @myandroidupdate: Android News – 123th Edition: Samsung Mobile ships 1 million Galaxy S devices in the U.S http://bit.ly/9vyaEeAug 29 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: sudo install, usage and sudoers config file basics http://bit.ly/cwM1Qh #linux #gnuAug 29 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: #Firebird baza de date universală open source #MindTheBird http://slidesha.re/9ep7tp #freesoftwareAug 29 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: Campania de lansare Firebird 2.5 Cum poți TU sprijini Firebird #MindTheBird: http://bit.ly/ajHAQfAug 29 21:57
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schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/18/another-report-has-android-moving-up-quicklyAug 29 22:01
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schestowitzSome IDG nonsense mentioned APple too much]Aug 29 22:01
schestowitzFar more than MicrosoftAug 29 22:02
schestowitzpretending that Apple is still ahead, which it ain;tAug 29 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Backing up my files to USB stick. Presentations done, including "32 Short Demos about ODF". Fly to Budapest overnight. #OOoConAug 29 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #IBM #Lotus #Symphony 3 Beta 4 is now available http://is.gd/eKk9sAug 29 22:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/18/chrome-os-tablet-may-debut-on-black-fridayAug 29 22:03
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schestowitzLinus 'desktop'Aug 29 22:03
schestowitzLinux evenAug 29 22:03
MinceRgnAug 29 22:07
gnufreexIBM Lotus Symphony is an example how much IBM hates (L)GPL. They have a choice, either keep Symphony propriatry (since they had separate agreement with Sun), or release it under LGPL. They chose to make it propriatary but it is zero cost, so they are not making any money from it.Aug 29 22:25
schestowitzYeahAug 29 22:26
schestowitzI knoiwAug 29 22:26
schestowitzIBM has EPLAug 29 22:26
gnufreexTheir Linux contributions are all sent in name of employees, not the company.Aug 29 22:26
gnufreexFrom employee email adress.Aug 29 22:27
gnufreexEPL is stupides license I read. It has one purpose: prevent code from getting into GPL'd project.Aug 29 22:28
gnufreexYou can make propriatary fork, and IBM is doing it.Aug 29 22:28
gnufreexFor WebSphere dev toolsAug 29 22:29
gnufreexYou only can't link it to GPL stuff.Aug 29 22:29
schestowitzi c...Aug 29 22:29
schestowitzSymbian took EPL tooAug 29 22:29
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Troll example (classic): http://ur1.ca/1ctdl http://ur1.ca/15zgiAug 29 22:29
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] In #toronto? Check talented Samantha Battaglia's 1st exhibition of abstract+figurative paintings & collage, Wychwood Park #Art studios todayAug 29 22:29
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] MT @thinkprogress Flurry of hate crimes against Muslims highlights irresponsible rhetoric from brownshirt agitators. http://bit.ly/a0hvRDAug 29 22:29
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gnufreexRed Hat had lots of problem with JBoss developers toolsAug 29 22:29
gnufreexJBoss Developer Studio is propriatary software because of EPLAug 29 22:30
gnufreexExadel plugins are GPL and copyrights are held by Red HatAug 29 22:30
schestowitzWow. INQ messed up a headline twiceAug 29 22:30
gnufreexEclipse is GPLAug 29 22:30
gnufreexnoAug 29 22:31
gnufreexEclipse is EPLAug 29 22:31
schestowitz"NAND flash will fall to $1 a gigabyte this year">"NAND flash will fall to $1 a megabyte this year">"NAND Flash will fall to $1 a megabyte this year" http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1728951/nand-flash-fall-usd1-megabyteAug 29 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                     Nand flash will fall to $1 a gigabyte this year  - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 86.69 KBAug 29 22:31
gnufreexSo Eclipse + Exadel plugins must be propriatary to be distributed together.Aug 29 22:31
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oiaohmhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-26/intel-said-to-be-near-purchase-of-infineon-division.html  Now intel gets this everything apple makes pays them.Aug 29 22:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] My !pre just went from 25% battery to 0% in about 2 minutes. Frustrating. #palmpreAug 29 22:52
Viper550Hey, is there a sort of "dictionary" of the odd terms you use on the news postings?Aug 29 22:52
schestowitzLike Vista 7?Aug 29 22:55
Viper550yeaAug 29 22:57
cubevectordon't forget silver lie :)Aug 29 22:58
schestowitzViper550: would a list be helpful?Aug 29 22:59
Viper550yeah. in addition, I think the site itself .. is a little odd lookingAug 29 22:59
schestowitzYeah, that's subjectiveAug 29 23:00
schestowitzI mean, different people like different stylesAug 29 23:00
Viper550I mean, how the theme is set up is a little odd to meAug 29 23:01
Viper550like the odd second sidebar/suchAug 29 23:01
cubevectorand the little castle with the flag at the top :)Aug 29 23:02
schestowitzWe can redesign I guessAug 29 23:02
cubevectorsilver light or whatever it's called didn't really catch onAug 29 23:04
cubevectorthere's that silver light plugin... I never bothered with it thoughAug 29 23:04
cubevectorI bet it would be horrible on a p3Aug 29 23:06
schestowitzMoon lieAug 29 23:06
schestowitzThe lie is "cross platform" by the wayAug 29 23:06
schestowitzFalse promises and marketingAug 29 23:06
cubevectorlike does Microsoft have to come up with a bogus copy of everything?Aug 29 23:06
cubevectorI don't like flash eitherAug 29 23:07
cubevectoronce again it's the slownessAug 29 23:07
gnufreexThis looks a lot like Intel buying DEC's fabs and gutting AlphaAug 29 23:08
gnufreexhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-26/intel-said-to-be-near-purchase-of-infineon-division.htmlAug 29 23:08
cubevectorgreat, more mono-culture :-/Aug 29 23:08
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cubevectorbut DEC's been gone for a long timeAug 29 23:08
Viper550I'd go for a similar color scheme, but a more optimized "web portal" like lookAug 29 23:08
gnufreexI am saying it looks similar, cubevectorAug 29 23:09
cubevectoroh okAug 29 23:09
gnufreexIntel is buying Infineon this time.Aug 29 23:09
gnufreexAnd trying to gut ARMAug 29 23:09
schestowitzIntel buys "486" (the number) and infinityAug 29 23:10
schestowitzThat too shalt be bribedAug 29 23:10
Viper550and maybe a luquid wirth?Aug 29 23:10
cubevectortry to buy a non-x86 laptop and you'll see how bad things have becomeAug 29 23:11
gnufreexInfineon manufactures Apple's A4 ARM chipAug 29 23:12
schestowitzNoAug 29 23:12
schestowitzAsia doesAug 29 23:12
schestowitz:-)Aug 29 23:12
schestowitzInfineon="knowledge workers"Aug 29 23:12
gnufreexArticle says so...Aug 29 23:13
schestowitzLike Apple makes "devices"Aug 29 23:14
schestowitzIt designs themAug 29 23:14
schestowitzTHe partitioning and assembly is contaracted AFAIKAug 29 23:14
schestowitzAnd if you do Android too, APple will get angry and drop the contract (today's news)Aug 29 23:14
gnufreexYes, Apple designs chips, they bought PA Semi for that. Infineon makes chips, it has own fabs.Aug 29 23:15
schestowitzOK, which locations?Aug 29 23:16
schestowitzI think Intel built one in VietnamAug 29 23:16
gnufreexI think Germany.Aug 29 23:17
schestowitzThey take up all the water+powerAug 29 23:17
gnufreexIntel has fabs everywhare.Aug 29 23:17
*schestowitz doesn't know why water is used to make chipsAug 29 23:17
gnufreexhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7FMo_xevpUAug 29 23:19
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schestowitzHm..... I should make some chips in my bath thenAug 29 23:21
schestowitzOpenSPARCAug 29 23:21
cubevectorI've never heard of home made cpusAug 29 23:22
cubevectorthere's FPGA'sAug 29 23:22
gnufreexcubevector: I think it can't be made...Aug 29 23:23
gnufreexNot anything usable.Aug 29 23:23
cubevectorthere's those relay computersAug 29 23:23
cubevectorthat's stretching it though :)Aug 29 23:23
gnufreexBut you can design chip at home and then have TSMC build it.Aug 29 23:23
cubevectorhow much do you figure it would cost?Aug 29 23:24
gnufreexLotAug 29 23:24
schestowitzRMS and FSF would fund it :-)Aug 29 23:24
schestowitzgnuPCAug 29 23:24
schestowitz"new pc"Aug 29 23:24
schestowitzAnd then people will stop asking RMS  about free hardware (at which point no stories about tables and chairs are needed)Aug 29 23:25
gnufreexhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=1999-06-22-005-05-NW-LFAug 29 23:25
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cubevectormore than $100,000?Aug 29 23:25
gnufreexcubevector depending what your aims are.Aug 29 23:26
gnufreexGeneral purpose CPU would definetely cost more than 100kAug 29 23:26
gnufreexEven if you base it on OpenSPARCAug 29 23:26
cubevectorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GQmtITMdasAug 29 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- From sand to chip - How a CPU is made .::. Size~: 100.96 KBAug 29 23:28
gnufreexThanksAug 29 23:28
gnufreexGreat videoAug 29 23:28
schestowitzI am fascinated by these processesAug 29 23:28
cubevectorI think you could use FPGA'sAug 29 23:28
schestowitzMaking a CD-ROM is nice tooAug 29 23:29
cubevectorif you really wanted to do home-brewAug 29 23:29
cubevectorthere's mini-mig and C-1Aug 29 23:29
gnufreexhttp://opencores.org/Aug 29 23:30
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schestowitzMy in-law designs chipsAug 29 23:30
gnufreexOpenCores (not OpenCore) are making free hardwareAug 29 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[tracyrreed] Rarely I agree with billg on anything: He is right about online education and Khan Academy: http://bit.ly/d3ASPI It is incredible!Aug 29 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] 3 Prototypes From HP, In Outline http://bit.ly/9C54vbAug 29 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @tweetmeme Grayson: Mosque debate a ‘distraction,’ talk about admin that ‘let’ 9/11 happen inst.. http://bit.ly/cpPoSwAug 29 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] This is not the output of a computerised word salad generator. Not yet computerised. http://cyberneticimmortality.com/postulates.htmAug 29 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] If product placement is a faux pas in #cinema, why do we accept in #journalism? (Globe&Mail, CNN, and the rest, I'm looking @ you)Aug 29 23:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] I've favourited a YouTube video -- From sand to chip - How a CPU is made http://youtu.be/-GQmtITMdas?aAug 29 23:31
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cubevectorI remember we saw chip making films in high schoolAug 29 23:32
cubevectorin the early 1980'sAug 29 23:32
cubevectormost chips made were unusableAug 29 23:32
cubevectoronly a low percentage of chips workedAug 29 23:32
balrogcubevector: that's still the case with GPUsAug 29 23:32
balrogbasically, lower-end GPUs are the same chip as the higher-end versionAug 29 23:33
balrogonly, defective parts are disabledAug 29 23:33
cubevectorinterestingAug 29 23:33
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schestowitzWowAug 29 23:34
schestowitzbalrog: any link on that?Aug 29 23:35
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balrogschestowitz: I don't have a link handy, but back in the day people used to "convert" lower-end GPUs to higher ones like thatAug 29 23:35
balrogsimilar with core solo processorsAug 29 23:35
gnufreexschestowitz: I think Anand tech and Tom's hardware have articles about thatAug 29 23:36
schestowitzIt sounds exaggeratedAug 29 23:36
gnufreexI can't find it nowAug 29 23:36
gnufreexIt is not exageratedAug 29 23:36
schestowitzI want to know if your statement is accurateAug 29 23:36
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balrogschestowitz: I can find references but I'd have to dig a bitAug 29 23:36
balrogI thought this was common knowledge, really :oAug 29 23:36
gnufreexNew nVidia Fermi yealds only 8% of workable chipsAug 29 23:37
schestowitzNvidia had many defects 1 (or 2) year agoAug 29 23:37
balrogschestowitz: that was due to bad solderAug 29 23:37
schestowitz"bad, bad sildier!!"Aug 29 23:37
balrogsame thing happened to the GPUs in iBook G4'sAug 29 23:37
balroga reflow fixes that issueAug 29 23:37
gnufreexhttp://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/Aug 29 23:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SemiAccurate :: Nvidia's Fermi GTX480 is broken and unfixable  .::. Size~: 34.13 KBAug 29 23:38
balrogalso, a 2GHz CPU and a 2.5 GHz CPU may actually be the same chipAug 29 23:38
balrogthe difference is that the 2.5GHz passed tests at that speedAug 29 23:38
balrogwhile the 2.0 didn'tAug 29 23:39
balrogthat's also why overclocking worksAug 29 23:39
gnufreexSome nVidia chips could be unlocked with Riva TunerAug 29 23:39
schestowitzTrolls: http://www.pcworld.com/article/203934/the_web_has_flatlined.html?tk=rss_newsAug 29 23:39
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balroggnufreex: yesAug 29 23:39
balrogand nvidia's config util allows overclockingAug 29 23:40
gnufreexYou unlock closed parts and make $500 cardAug 29 23:40
balrogwith a special switchAug 29 23:40
gnufreexBut sometimes it diesAug 29 23:40
balrogproblem with unlocking is possibility of failureAug 29 23:40
balrogwith GPGPU you can't have failureAug 29 23:40
balrogthat's why the higher end Fermi cards have ECC RAMAug 29 23:40
balrogthe 460 doesn't; it's targeted for graphicsAug 29 23:40
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/24/ibm_autonomic_power_management/Aug 29 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM slips automatic tranny into Power7 • The Register .::. Size~: 31.04 KBAug 29 23:41
schestowitzRed Troll headlineAug 29 23:41
gnufreexI had GeForce 6800LE unlocked to 6800 Ultra. LE cost 150 euros, Ultra was over 500Aug 29 23:42
balroggnufreex: at LE speed or Ultra speed?Aug 29 23:42
cubevectornvidia heats up too muchAug 29 23:43
balrogwe're at the point where GPUs are like the Intel PrescottAug 29 23:43
gnufreexIt was LE originaly, but I unlocked it and made Ultra.Aug 29 23:43
balrogbut which clockspeeds?Aug 29 23:43
gnufreexI don't remember.Aug 29 23:43
gnufreexI think I didn't do overclocking.Aug 29 23:44
balrogyes, but IIRC the LE runs slower than the UltraAug 29 23:44
balrogif you ran it at LE speeds, you may have been OKAug 29 23:44
balroga friend of mine just got a 2560x1440 monitor and needed a new GPUAug 29 23:45
gnufreexSO it was probably little slower than real UltraAug 29 23:45
balrogprobablyAug 29 23:45
balrogmakes senseAug 29 23:45
balrogbtw nouveau is getting pretty far :)Aug 29 23:45
gnufreexWhat I have now is GF 8800GTAug 29 23:45
balrogno fermi support yetAug 29 23:45
balrogthat's a pretty nice cardAug 29 23:45
balrogI have a GF 8600M in here (the buggy one) though this board got replacedAug 29 23:46
balrogmy linux box has NO gpuAug 29 23:46
gnufreexI wanted to flash BIOS and make it Quadro FX 3700Aug 29 23:46
gnufreexBut since I use Blender, it is no use.Aug 29 23:46
balrogit's also got 99% free software :)Aug 29 23:46
balrogoh? why's that?Aug 29 23:46
cubevectorI have an ATI Radeon 9550Aug 29 23:46
balrogcubevector: that's pretty oldAug 29 23:46
gnufreexAutodesk Maya has special optimizations for Quadro cardsAug 29 23:47
cubevectoryeah all my computers are old :)Aug 29 23:47
gnufreexPropriatary crudAug 29 23:47
gnufreexBlender doesn't do that.Aug 29 23:47
gnufreexWhole point of Quadro is lock-inAug 29 23:47
gnufreexAnd propriatary implementationsAug 29 23:47
balrogahhhhAug 29 23:47
gnufreexI have no use for that with Blender.Aug 29 23:47
gnufreex*Implementations* should be optimizationsAug 29 23:48
gnufreexit was typoAug 29 23:48
balrogoh that makes more senseAug 29 23:48
cubevectorI want a computer that doesn't get too hotAug 29 23:49
gnufreexbalrog: But the funny thing is that you get 10x more expensive Quadro with simple flash of BIOS. And Quadro actually has lower clocks than equivalent GFAug 29 23:50
balrogugh :[Aug 29 23:51
balrogthere really is no other difference?Aug 29 23:51
balrogwell what about the 3D support?Aug 29 23:51
balrogmeaningAug 29 23:52
balrogshutter glassesAug 29 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Bah, belo leak de memória no Flock 2.5.1 Hummmm...Aug 29 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @dpic !Debian based !FreedomBox inspired by Eben Moglen is materializing fast! Get one here: www.reddit.com/tb/d6zg8 !gnu !fsf !lpAug 29 23:52
gnufreexQuadro and GeForce is same hardware. Diference is only in driver. GeForce has some of OpenGL features locked.Aug 29 23:53
balrogugh :[Aug 29 23:53
balrogyou sure? Because some of the Quadro hardware that apple was offering with their computers also has that port for 3d glassesAug 29 23:53
gnufreexLocked in driver level. You can try to use moded drivers (work on windows only) or flash BIOS to trick driver into thinking that it deals with QuadroAug 29 23:54
gnufreexThat works for Linux tooAug 29 23:54
gnufreexWhen I say BIOS, I think BIOS of the cardAug 29 23:54
gnufreexnot moboAug 29 23:55
gnufreex3D glasses are also available for GFAug 29 23:55
gnufreexQuadro is not gamers cardAug 29 23:55
gnufreexit is for 3D artist and animation studiosAug 29 23:55
gnufreexAutodesk makes some features available only for quadro cards.Aug 29 23:56
gnufreexbalrog: check out this http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=134631Aug 29 23:57
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