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schestowitzIt's funnySep 04 00:10
schestowitzsearch for itSep 04 00:10
schestowitzCreationist straw manSep 04 00:10
schestowitzIt's too much lunacySep 04 00:11
schestowitzSo I reckon celebs who play with this nonsense made a career out of fooling ignorant masses telling them what they want to believeSep 04 00:11
schestowitzPreying on ignorant ill people -- always a market for that and crooks willing to exploit thatSep 04 00:11
schestowitzSearch on PopoffSep 04 00:12
cubevectorPopoff is still going Sep 04 00:17
cubevectorsaw him on late night tv recentlySep 04 00:17
schestowitzYeahSep 04 00:17
schestowitznew scamsSep 04 00:17
schestowitzWhere is the ftc?Sep 04 00:17
schestowitzBusy doin' nothingSep 04 00:17
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1fmPXsk6oQSep 04 00:18
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cubevector"Miracle Manna" is one new oneSep 04 00:23
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schestowitzMany people in the comments here link to us: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/09/03/177246/Anti-Google-Video-Runs-In-Times-Square?from=rssSep 04 07:36
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schestowitzMac Asay being defended by the folks nowSep 04 10:05
schestowitzAnd their wallpapers/looks tooSep 04 10:05
schestowitz"@alanbelltolc they should use your background picture in Twitter as wallpaper" http://twitter.com/alanbelltolc/statuses/22960974077Sep 04 10:05
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48445768#notice-48840495 "heh, *Mac* Asay :-D"Sep 04 10:08
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schestowitz"@homembit, read more on Gates Foundation's philanthroprofiteering"Sep 04 10:17
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schestowitzhttp://timothyblee.com/2010/08/30/liberalism-in-europe/Sep 04 14:58
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schestowitzHi, twitterSep 04 15:24
twitterhelloSep 04 15:25
schestowitzWe're mostly in #techrights now, unless it's focused on NovellSep 04 15:25
twitterI've been busy but have a little time for fun nowSep 04 15:25
twitterahSep 04 15:25
twitterI'll have to figure that out.Sep 04 15:25
schestowitzThere's another oil rig blastSep 04 15:25
twitterahhhhh!Sep 04 15:25
twitterdid you see Todd Bishop's speculation that Microsoft is out of Bing bribe money?Sep 04 15:26
schestowitzAges ago?Sep 04 15:26
schestowitzThey have a new oneSep 04 15:26
schestowitzFake donationSep 04 15:26
schestowitzOne of those bribes you can't mockSep 04 15:26
schestowitzUnless you "f* hate hungry children" or somethingSep 04 15:27
twitterhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/09/aol_renews_google_search_deal_has_microsoft_finally_reached_its_limit.htmlSep 04 15:27
TechrightsBotTitle: AOL renews Google search deal: Has Microsoft hit spending limit? .::. Size~: 55.09 KBSep 04 15:27
twittergot it from groklawSep 04 15:27
schestowitzAOL stuff I coveredSep 04 15:27
schestowitzGroklaw and Microsoft I read tomorrowSep 04 15:27
twittercoolSep 04 15:27
schestowitzToday I read some environment newsSep 04 15:27
twitterthanksSep 04 15:28
twitterhave you seen the Florida Oil Spill Law blog?  They do an excellent job of collecting stories.Sep 04 15:28
schestowitzIdenti.ca has been ahum recently about the cynical 'foundation' thingSep 04 15:28
schestowitztwitter: I haven't,noSep 04 15:29
schestowitzHow the economy in Florida?Sep 04 15:29
schestowitzIt was a mess last I checkedSep 04 15:29
schestowitzMorgage bubble blew hard on themSep 04 15:29
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/feedSep 04 15:29
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twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/Sep 04 15:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 124.46 KBSep 04 15:29
schestowitzhttp://blog.crowdflower.com/2010/08/crowdsourcing-for-pakistan-flood-relief/Sep 04 15:30
TechrightsBotTitle: The CrowdFlower Blog -   Crowdsourcing for Pakistan flood relief .::. Size~: 16.51 KBSep 04 15:30
schestowitzThat's the greater issueSep 04 15:30
schestowitzBut it's called "brown people", unless it's a kin people subs one of them with "terrorist"Sep 04 15:30
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schestowitzThat's how Western media views itSep 04 15:31
schestowitzThe moment there's a cm of water in some condo in Florida you'll see the news SHOUTINGSep 04 15:31
schestowitz"the carpets!!"Sep 04 15:31
schestowitzNot "think about the children"Sep 04 15:32
schestowitzA lot in the West still don't understand cynicism elsewhere :-/Sep 04 15:32
twitterThe same cynicism exists here.  I'm back on the US gulf coast now.  People here know all too well that the spill won't matter as much until it gets to the US East coast.  Sep 04 15:34
twitterNo one cares about what they call the "Redneck Riviera"Sep 04 15:35
schestowitz"AOL renews Google search deal: Has Microsoft hit spending limit?"Sep 04 15:35
schestowitzWhat's that about?Sep 04 15:35
schestowitzLet's see..Sep 04 15:35
schestowitz"Microsoft also has its hands full with the Yahoo search and advertising integration, and its engineers may not have had the bandwidth to add AOL to their plates, as well, at this point."Sep 04 15:36
schestowitzAh, I see the spinSep 04 15:36
schestowitz"too busy" excuseSep 04 15:36
twitterTodd says that Microsoft would have won the AOL deal if they had the money.Sep 04 15:36
schestowitzOf course *rolls eyes*Sep 04 15:36
twitterThe point that is interesting is that Microsoft is out of money.Sep 04 15:36
schestowitzWhen Microsoft loses it's because it chooses to :-)Sep 04 15:36
schestowitztwitter: they blew half a billion on VerizonSep 04 15:37
schestowitzIt gave them nothingSep 04 15:37
twitterrightSep 04 15:37
schestowitz[15:36] <twitter> The point that is interesting is that Microsoft is out of money.Sep 04 15:37
schestowitzMaybe MicrosoftSep 04 15:37
schestowitzNot its workersSep 04 15:37
schestowitzGates, Troll Allen, SweatyB (Ballmer)...Sep 04 15:37
schestowitzhttp://radar.oreilly.com/2010/09/tocs-wednesday-devices-and-gad-1.htmlSep 04 15:38
TechrightsBotTitle: TOC's Wednesday devices, gadgets and ereaders update - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 48.68 KBSep 04 15:38
schestowitzAll LinuxSep 04 15:38
schestowitzGame overSep 04 15:38
schestowitzit's only a matter of timeSep 04 15:38
schestowitzThis is the last desktop I'm buyingSep 04 15:39
schestowitzHeh. http://xkcd.com/787/Sep 04 15:39
TechrightsBotTitle: xkcd: Orbiter .::. Size~: 7.32 KBSep 04 15:39
twitterI agree, desktops will be limited to power users who have numbers to crunch.  The academic mini computer crowd of the 1970s.Sep 04 15:40
twitterOthers will be happier with mobile computers and entertainment systems. Sep 04 15:40
twitterIt is those two areas where freedom must be guarded. Sep 04 15:40
twitterI'm happy that Microsoft is running out of resources to harm software freedom. Sep 04 15:41
twitterGates, Allen and friends have moved on to other frauds and will increasingly see the futility of propping up Microsoft.Sep 04 15:42
twitterMicrosoft's revenue, however, was once much greater than their own and they were able to do a lot of harm with it.Sep 04 15:43
twitterThe rest of us are better off now that they are deprived of that resource.Sep 04 15:43
schestowitzbrbSep 04 15:44
schestowitzguest hereSep 04 15:44
twitterThe other spin about the Microsoft loss of AOL is that no one cares about AOL.Sep 04 15:44
twitterhave fun!Sep 04 15:44
twitterI'll check in later.Sep 04 15:44
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MinceRwhoa, twitter was hereSep 04 17:51
schestowitzNow the Bang of Monkeys will accuse me of nymshifting or somethingSep 04 18:18
schestowitz"FBI says 6 accused in forced labor of 400 Thai workers is largest human-trafficking case in US"Sep 04 19:08
schestowitzDoesn't "forced labor" need to be called slavery?Sep 04 19:08
schestowitzOr is slavery a banned word in the West, for PR reasons?Sep 04 19:09
schestowitzHeh. http://www.techworld.com.au/article/359469/microsoft_silverlight_capabilities_exceed_those_html5?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1Sep 04 19:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft: Silverlight capabilities exceed those of HTML5 - application development, html5, Microsoft, Microsoft Silverlight - Techworld .::. Size~: 53.45 KBSep 04 19:22
schestowitzVery rare to hard about SIlver Lie nowSep 04 19:22
schestowitzvSep 04 19:27
schestowitzSkype leaves Linux/BSD further in the dark: http://www.pcworld.com/article/204653/6_Useful_WiFi_Tools_for_Windows.html?tk=rss_newsSep 04 19:27
TechrightsBotTitle: 6 Useful Wi-Fi Tools for Windows - PCWorld .::. Size~: 70.25 KBSep 04 19:27
MinceRi don't mind being left in the dark by skypeSep 04 19:28
schestowitzyou got SIP?Sep 04 19:28
schestowitzGoogle Talk might harm SkypeSep 04 19:28
MinceRi can have SIP if i want itSep 04 19:28
schestowitzSkype->FIACISCO SystemsSep 04 19:29
MinceRFascisco Systems?Sep 04 19:29
schestowitzI bet you don't ever answer the phoneSep 04 19:29
MinceRi have GSM and UMTS but i rarely use them for voice :>Sep 04 19:29
schestowitzIt's always humans calling youSep 04 19:29
MinceRi'm rarely calledSep 04 19:29
schestowitzGoodSep 04 19:29
schestowitzDon't spread the numbersSep 04 19:29
schestowitzYou keep theirsSep 04 19:29
schestowitzYou can control when you talk/notSep 04 19:30
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schestowitz> Subject: On the so-called "Consumer Watchdog"Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz> HelloSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> I've came across your website as ISep 04 20:12
schestowitz> was investigating the so-called "Consumer Watchdog", I always suspectedSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> that they were a crazed anti-Google club that was financed by Microsoft,Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz> but I see that you seem to suspect that they are an astroturfer outfitSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> hired by MSFT.Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz> I was wondering about their latest stunt with the Times Square videoSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> running on a loop depicting Eric Schmidt as a child molester, and theSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> words of CW chairman echoed by almost every online outfit, it'sSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> basically gone mainstream and it might hurt Google, so ISep 04 20:12
schestowitz> was wondering how would someone go about proving the nature of thisSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> group to one of these publication (Wired for example) and get them toSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> write about it?Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz> Also does this astroturfing campaign include Gawker media and all it'sSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> blogs? Fast-company? and the Huffington post? since they haveSep 04 20:12
schestowitz> been exhibiting a highly anti-Google sentiment.Sep 04 20:12
schestowitzGawker have recently been promoting Microsoft's patent troll IV and rubbed some members of our community the wrong way. CW is very crass (calling Google "Criminals!") and trying to split the company. They need to be named and shamed like Zuck who wrote letters 'for dead people' in support of Microsoft, which hired him.Sep 04 20:12
schestowitz=======Sep 04 20:21
schestowitz> I'm back from an absolutely amazing OOcon 2010 in Budapest.   About 3/4Sep 04 20:21
schestowitz> dead.Sep 04 20:21
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Microshit sent its people there to be the fly in the ointment, so tahtSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> the tweets and articles would be about them and not ODF or OOo.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Novell people have something very wrong with them, most of them, I canSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> say after meeting them. That I saw even before the 'softers showed up.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Once they did, the Novell people flocked around them like highschoolSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> kids would crowd a sports star.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Security theater and a thousand other problems popped up both going toSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> and from the conference.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> IMPORTANT:Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> There was some amazingly good news regarding interoperability ODF-usingSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> applications.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> a. There was ability for three different Open Source applications (OOo,Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> KOffice, and FreOffice) to exchange word processing files (and IIRCSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> spreadsheets)Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> b.  There was the ability for applications to extract and use RDFSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> metadata from ODF files created by other applications!!!!!!!!Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> Sep 04 20:22
schestowitz> c. The final session of the last day of the week had a real  breakSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> through in mobile support using a server to pre-process and deliverSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> fragments of and ODF file for rendering on mobile devices.  That methodSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> and the researcher got praise but should have been done a day or twoSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> earlier so that the full impact could be discussed.  Among other thingsSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> it means that the way is open for weak mobile devices and that anyoneSep 04 20:22
schestowitz> that wants to can work with ODF.Sep 04 20:22
schestowitzhttp://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/why-hps-decision-to-oust-hurd-was-the-best-one/?cs=43013 wasn't the replacement intended to be named by now?Sep 04 20:59
TechrightsBotTitle: Why HP's Decision to Oust Hurd Was the Best One | Blogs | ITBusinessEdge.com .::. Size~: 77.32 KBSep 04 20:59
schestowitzAndrew Orlowski serves anything that's malicious and controversial: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/31/iap_on_ipcc/Sep 04 21:03
TechrightsBotTitle: Report recommends UN climate panel shakeup • The Register .::. Size~: 26.58 KBSep 04 21:03
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/204747/Meet_the_Galaxy_Tab.html?tk=rss_newsSep 04 21:52
schestowitzIf only it were not BallnuxSep 04 21:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Meet the Galaxy Tab - PCWorld .::. Size~: 77.34 KBSep 04 21:53
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