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MinceRi tried adobe air once, for an application i didn't end up usingSep 10 06:52
MinceRcons: it's adobe, it doesn't have native look and feelSep 10 06:53
MinceRpro: it doesn't run in the browser so it doesn't threaten the browserSep 10 06:53
MinceR(also doesn't start uninvited)Sep 10 06:53
schestowitzTHe pros are negations :-)Sep 10 07:49
schestowitz"I love my dog cause it doesn't urinate on the couch"Sep 10 07:49
MinceR:>Sep 10 07:53
zoobabhttp://www.patentlyapple.com/Sep 10 11:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Patently Apple .::. Size~: 52.1 KBSep 10 11:14
zoobabMy blood pressure raised when I saw this websiteSep 10 11:14
schestowitz"We LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOVE apple... even its monopolies" [join the cult]Sep 10 11:36
schestowitzApple reards fan blogs in all sorts of known ways (I covered some)Sep 10 11:37
schestowitz*rewardsSep 10 11:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/wmeints "Microsoft fanboy, Silverlight expert and someone who doesn't read documentation, but reverse engineers software to find out how things work."Sep 10 11:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Willem Meints (wmeints) on Twitter .::. Size~: 46.54 KBSep 10 11:42
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/wmeints/statuses/24084966082Sep 10 11:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Willem Meints: ah more hippies screaming  ... .::. Size~: 12.44 KBSep 10 11:42
schestowitz"ah more hippies screaming MS is evil. Bring it on people ;) RT @JelleHuygen: MS WPF declared dead? http://bit.ly/b8vGXe"Sep 10 11:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Windows Presentation Foundation is Dying/Dead, Silverlight Might be Too, So Microsoft Tries to Bastardise HTML5 | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.86 KBSep 10 11:42
schestowitzHe doesn't refuteSep 10 11:42
schestowitzJust calls us "screaming hippies"Sep 10 11:42
schestowitzSelf-described "Microsoft fanboy, Silverlight expert"Sep 10 11:43
schestowitzHehe. Sep 10 11:43
schestowitz"Microsoft fanboy"Sep 10 11:43
schestowitzWhat's next? Stalin adorer?Sep 10 11:43
cubevectorStalin and Hitler foot kisser?Sep 10 11:44
Diablo-D3nabSep 10 11:44
Diablo-D3manSep 10 11:44
Diablo-D3hitler wasnt evilSep 10 11:44
Diablo-D3he was a great painterSep 10 11:44
Diablo-D3srslySep 10 11:44
schestowitzJust dented "People who celebrate Apple's monopolies and #swpats (Apple is a patent aggressor) should be utterly ashamed. Case of point is PatentlyApple"Sep 10 11:46
schestowitzDiablo-D3: no, he sucked at itSep 10 11:46
schestowitzAnd then blamed Jews who were at the collegeSep 10 11:46
schestowitzHe went bombing people insteadSep 10 11:47
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I think you missed the sarcasmSep 10 11:47
schestowitzThat he was actually better at in WW1Sep 10 11:47
Diablo-D3and the intended humorSep 10 11:47
schestowitzDiablo-D3: I knowSep 10 11:47
schestowitzDid Stalin get his paintings from the bunker?Sep 10 11:47
schestowitzSomeone should make a downfall spoof about the paintingsSep 10 11:48
Diablo-D3christSep 10 11:48
Diablo-D3not another oneSep 10 11:48
Diablo-D3there was even a downfall spoof of downfall spoofs being taken off youtubeSep 10 11:48
Diablo-D3which, too, got taken off youtubeSep 10 11:48
schestowitz"I TOLD YOU!! I need those painting destroyed before STALIN sees how crap they are!!"Sep 10 11:48
schestowitz"Microsoft is great... look how nice the Silver Lie logo is"Sep 10 11:49
Diablo-D3honestly, I like the old logosSep 10 11:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/40/51983.html "Broadly branded as the Ubuntu in Nation Building conference, it drew more than 700 delegates from all sections of society to discuss and deliberate moral regeneration and the values pivotal to building a just and caring society."Sep 10 15:09
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu Conference turns spotlight on building a just and caring society .::. Size~: 37.47 KBSep 10 15:09
schestowitzhttp://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/now_were_leading_an_onslaught.phpSep 10 15:53
TechrightsBotTitle: Now we're leading an onslaught! : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 183.54 KBSep 10 15:53
schestowitzHeheSep 10 15:53
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Diablo-D3uhSep 10 17:53
Diablo-D3schestowitzSep 10 17:53
Diablo-D3you made a grave errorSep 10 17:53
Diablo-D3Sep 10 17:54
Diablo-D3schestowitz (32 minutes ago from kdemicroblog)Sep 10 17:54
Diablo-D3Links 10/9/2010: !Linux 2.6.36, Google Moves From #MapReduce to #BigTable http://ur1.ca/1kszy !techrights #roundupSep 10 17:54
TechrightsBotTitle: Links 10/9/2010: Linux 2.6.36, Google Moves From MapReduce to BigTable | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.92 KBSep 10 17:54
MinceRthey use both, don't they? :>Sep 10 17:54
Diablo-D3BigTable is a db impl that follows the mapreduce design patternSep 10 17:55
schestowitzOhSep 10 17:55
schestowitzLet me correct thatSep 10 17:55
Diablo-D3it uses GFS (the google filesystem) which also follows the mapreduce design patternSep 10 17:55
schestowitzI was talking to someone when I typed itSep 10 17:55
Diablo-D3many BigTable clones run on publically known mapreduce implementationsSep 10 17:55
Diablo-D3BigTable is also used with mapreduced programs.Sep 10 17:56
Diablo-D3and to do stuff on super-large clusters, you're often reproducing that design paradigm, knowingly or notSep 10 17:57
Diablo-D3the idea is not particularly new (google kicked off the second golden age of the concept), nor is it the best idea Sep 10 17:58
schestowitz"Links 10/9/2010: Linux 2.6.36, Google Caffeine Moves System Away From MapReduce, Onto BigTable"Sep 10 17:58
Diablo-D3schestowitz: thats still nonsensicalSep 10 17:59
Diablo-D3it just means they dumped the internal mapreduce impl and moved to doing it through bigtableSep 10 17:59
schestowitzHow would you put it?Sep 10 17:59
Diablo-D3I wouldn't bother stating it at all.Sep 10 17:59
schestowitz"Google Caffeine Moves System Further Onto BigTable"Sep 10 18:00
Diablo-D3yes, but it may have not used bigtable to begin withSep 10 18:00
schestowitzThe Register put it wrongSep 10 18:00
Diablo-D3although the article implies it doesSep 10 18:00
schestowitz"According to Eisar Lipkovitz, a senior director of engineering at Google, Caffeine moves Google's back-end indexing system away from MapReduce and onto BigTable, the company's distributed database platform."Sep 10 18:00
schestowitzEl RegSep 10 18:00
Diablo-D3schestowitz: you know how I'd view this?Sep 10 18:00
Diablo-D3ever see oracle db wizards that have a gigantic SQL query, it takes a whole day to run, and somewhere nearby a printer prints the report?Sep 10 18:01
Diablo-D3thats all they've really doneSep 10 18:01
schestowitzNever seen it, heard of it thoughSep 10 18:01
Diablo-D3they've moved from a low level mapreduce system to a higher level more generic and better understood dbSep 10 18:02
Diablo-D3which, this particular bigtable impl just happens to be very mapreduceySep 10 18:02
Diablo-D3obviously, this improves code design, it improves code reuse, and it improves code qualitySep 10 18:02
Diablo-D3and they recognize mapreduce is just one tool of many, and not a particularly powerful one outside of its very specific problem setSep 10 18:03
Diablo-D3the headline I'd go with? "Google finally admits MapReduce is a buzzword"Sep 10 18:03
schestowitzSounds opinionatedSep 10 18:09
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU4NwSep 10 18:12
TechrightsBotTitle: [Phoronix] Is Apple Now Blocking Contributions To GCC? .::. Size~: 18.37 KBSep 10 18:12
schestowitzCultistsSep 10 18:12
schestowitzTrying to harm FSFSep 10 18:12
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/blog-post/1732372/free-software-foundation-slams-oracleSep 10 18:14
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Free software foundation slams oracle - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 28.4 KBSep 10 18:14
schestowitzhttp://www.ghacks.net/2010/09/07/compile-your-own-linux-kernel/Sep 10 18:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Compile your own Linux kernel .::. Size~: 32.32 KBSep 10 18:26
schestowitzApple is nervous for a reason http://www.informationweek.com/news/smb/mobile/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227300214&subSection=NewsSep 10 18:28
TechrightsBotTitle: Android Gaining On Apple iOS For Mobile Browsing -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 79.62 KBSep 10 18:28
schestowitzHow does Google compile Android?Sep 10 18:28
schestowitzMicrosoft's boosters site: "The supply of Linux administrators is smaller than the demand for Linux administrators." http://www.windowsitpro.com/blogs/hyperboleembellishmentsysadmin/tabid/1027/entryid/13063/Certification-Culture-and-the-Availability-of-Systems-Administrators.aspxSep 10 18:42
TechrightsBotTitle: Certification, Culture, and the Availability of Systems Administrators - Hyperbole, Embellishment, and Systems Administration .::. Size~: 80.72 KBSep 10 18:42
Diablo-D3schestowitz: huhSep 10 18:47
Diablo-D3apple cant do shit hereSep 10 18:47
Diablo-D3if they released the patches publically and didnt change the copyrightSep 10 18:47
Diablo-D3the work is legally owned by the fsfSep 10 18:48
schestowitzhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellular/14973-Mobile-wars.html "I don’t think that these arguments hold much water, however, and feel that much like Linux itself, the open standards of the Android environment don’t actually move the game on in any way. In fact, if anything, they cause stagnation and stifle, not innovation, but consumer adoption. And that, after all, is what drives the bottom line, making profits for not only the Sep 10 19:12
schestowitzdevice manufacturer but the developers themselves."Sep 10 19:12
schestowitzBad-ASep 10 19:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Mobile OS wars .::. Size~: 38.81 KBSep 10 19:12
schestowitzhttp://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/inside-outsourcing/2010/09/uk-it-workers-are-leaving-this-country-because-they-are-fed-up.html?sms_ss=reddit "The number of overseas workers in the UK is driving local talent out. Below is an account from a UK IT professional about why he decided to leave these shores for pastures new. "Sep 10 19:34
TechrightsBotTitle: UK IT workers are leaving  the UK because they are fed up - Inside Outsourcing .::. Size~: 30.09 KBSep 10 19:34
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