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schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1273_signs.jpgSep 12 11:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 12 11:29
schestowitzECT is REPOSTING bad new for FOSS: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Is-FOSS-Openness-a-Security-Weakness-70797.htmlSep 12 11:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 2.83 KBSep 12 11:31
schestowitz*news (old)Sep 12 11:31
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schestowitzhttp://piana.eu/oracle_googleSep 12 15:14
schestowitzGood rantSep 12 15:14
TechrightsBotTitle: Oracle vs. Google, not a private rant | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 11.25 KBSep 12 15:14
schestowitzHeh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lecm30iDHW4Sep 12 15:36
TechrightsBotTitle:     YouTube        - Drunk on religion   .::. Size~: 111.97 KBSep 12 15:36
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/stevejberry/statuses/24283190531 "and ge closed it's last lightbulb factory"Sep 12 16:07
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / stevejberry: @schestowitz and ge closed ... .::. Size~: 12.32 KBSep 12 16:07
schestowitzWhat's the relevance? I don't get it...Sep 12 16:07
schestowitzDiablo-D3: "that's a sales white paper for nutritional woo in the form of a journal article. I would be suspicious."Sep 12 17:59
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/24296940930Sep 12 18:00
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz that's a sale ... .::. Size~: 9.23 KBSep 12 18:00
schestowitzAbout that thing you linked to a moment agoSep 12 18:00
schestowitzOh, so it's like Elsevier+Merck (famous recent scandal) then, thanks for the warningSep 12 18:00
Diablo-D3schestowitz: what?Sep 12 18:30
schestowitzdavid from wikipedia says you cited junk articleSep 12 18:33
schestowitzafter I RTed itSep 12 18:33
Diablo-D3who did what now?Sep 12 18:33
Diablo-D3schestowitz: so whats a junk article?Sep 12 18:49
schestowitzAsk David...Sep 12 18:50
schestowitzHe's not on identica thoughSep 12 18:50
Diablo-D3I meantSep 12 18:50
Diablo-D3what artcleSep 12 18:50
Diablo-D3I need context hereSep 12 18:50
schestowitz[16:04] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists successfully activate human telomerase http://ur1.ca/1leczSep 12 18:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Mary Ann Liebert, Inc. - Cookie absent .::. Size~: 6.58 KBSep 12 18:51
Diablo-D3ahh is it?Sep 12 18:51
*Diablo-D3 nukes itSep 12 18:51
schestowitzCome to #techrightsSep 12 18:51
schestowitzThat's where we talk about your dentsSep 12 18:52
Diablo-D3then Im taking #bn off my autojoinSep 12 18:52
schestowitzokSep 12 18:52
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schestowitzHi _GoblinSep 12 19:11
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schestowitzhttp://cloudusb.net/ interestign projectSep 12 20:52
TechrightsBotTitle: CloudUSB - CloudUSB Computer .::. Size~: 12.66 KBSep 12 20:52
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schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-in-flight-broadband-provider-row-44-raises-37-million/Sep 12 21:07
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schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/04/demon-children-want.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29Sep 12 21:18
TechrightsBotTitle: Demon children want you to eat - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 44.19 KBSep 12 21:18
schestowitzhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/beck-universities-dangerous-iran-north-korea/Sep 12 21:26
TechrightsBotTitle: Beck: Universities can be as dangerous as Iran and North Korea |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 51.46 KBSep 12 21:26
schestowitzhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/loses-ground-competitiveness-report/ Sep 12 21:41
TechrightsBotTitle: US loses ground in competitiveness report |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 31.31 KBSep 12 21:41
schestowitz]Sep 12 21:41
schestowitz"US falls to 4th place in competitiveness ranking behind Switzerland, Sweden and Singapore"Sep 12 21:41
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schestowitzHeheSep 12 22:36
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/10/google_instant_v_yahoo_live_search/Sep 12 22:36
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Instant 'invented by Yahoo! in 2005' • The Register .::. Size~: 27.85 KBSep 12 22:36
schestowitz"marriiiaaa.. I just met a gal named mariaaaaaa.."Sep 12 22:36
MinceRand it was pointless already back then :>Sep 12 22:36
schestowitzYeahSep 12 22:37
schestowitzJitterySep 12 22:37
schestowitzScreen clutterSep 12 22:37
schestowitzAnd when I want it to "go" it says "press ENTER"Sep 12 22:37
schestowitzSo it's worse than beforeSep 12 22:37
MinceRit just won't have enough information to do the search properly until i finish typing my querySep 12 22:37
schestowitzIt works when I don't want it otSep 12 22:37
schestowitz*toSep 12 22:37
schestowitzMinceR: it may be good for refining searcgSep 12 22:38
cubevectorWest Side Story, 1959Sep 12 22:38
schestowitzWIthout pageload and focus lossSep 12 22:38
schestowitzI need to get used to itSep 12 22:38
MinceRthe current interface already works well for refining searchSep 12 22:38
schestowitzI didn't try muchSep 12 22:38
MinceRthere's no need for AJAX bloat thereSep 12 22:38
schestowitzOn modem it may suckSep 12 22:38
schestowitzinstant...Sep 12 22:39
schestowitzLookkksss we innvaateSep 12 22:39
schestowitz"we changes something"Sep 12 22:39
schestowitz"We have all those banwitdz to spare"Sep 12 22:39
schestowitz["and cpu thingies"]Sep 12 22:40
schestowitzI guess it's underutilisedSep 12 22:40
schestowitzNot over capacitySep 12 22:40
MinceRi just use Duck Duck Go nowadaysSep 12 22:40
schestowitzSo they spew more quariesSep 12 22:40
MinceRand Scroogle if that doesn't give me a good resultSep 12 22:40
schestowitzAnd then they'll brag abouit more queriesSep 12 22:40
schestowitzIn market share 'surveys'Sep 12 22:40
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/205263/Facebook_More_Popular_than_Google.html?tk=rss_newsSep 12 22:41
TechrightsBotTitle: Facebook Now More Popular than Google - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.21 KBSep 12 22:41
schestowitzewwww..Sep 12 22:41
schestowitzNow, *that's* a scary thoughtSep 12 22:42
MinceRindeedSep 12 22:42
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/09/11/youtube-instant-creator-may-soon-be-working-for-googleSep 12 22:42
TechrightsBotTitle: "YouTube Instant" Creator May Soon Be Working for Google | WebProNews .::. Size~: 39.45 KBSep 12 22:42
schestowitzInstant "caffeine"Sep 12 22:42
schestowitzMaybe when they talked about caffeine they though instance coffeeSep 12 22:43
schestowitz*tantSep 12 22:43
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/205305/as_google_gets_smarter_are_we_getting_dumber.html?tk=rss_newsSep 12 22:43
TechrightsBotTitle: As Google Gets Smarter, are We Getting Dumber? - PCWorld .::. Size~: 68.22 KBSep 12 22:43
schestowitzIDG junkSep 12 22:43
schestowitzI decided to dump all IDG feeds todaySep 12 22:43
schestowitzAfter they attacked Linux in RusiaSep 12 22:43
schestowitzWith a fake numbers-based 'study'Sep 12 22:43
schestowitz*Russian schoolsSep 12 22:44
cubevectoryeah there was a Russian guy talking about that in here a while agoSep 12 22:45
schestowitzYeahSep 12 22:45
schestowitzNow it's officialSep 12 22:45
schestowitzAnd I will do a post about it tomorrowSep 12 22:45
cubevectorRussians are good programmers, I bet lots of them use LinuxSep 12 22:45
schestowitzYes Sep 12 22:47
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/205298/here_you_have_isnt_Sep 12 22:47
TechrightsBotTitle: 'Here You Have' Is a Windows Problem - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 66.3 KBSep 12 22:47
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1731980/dell-stop-offering-windows-xpSep 12 22:47
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Dell will stop offering windows xp - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 73.89 KBSep 12 22:48
cubevectoris Dell offering more Linux on their computers?Sep 12 22:48
*cubevector said expecting the answer noSep 12 22:48
cubevectorand they talk about XP being "more efficient"Sep 12 22:49
cubevectorshows you just how bloated Windows 7 must be to consider XP efficient :)Sep 12 22:49
MinceR:>Sep 12 22:50
MinceRnah, dhell will only offer it on at most 3 modelsSep 12 22:51
MinceRapparently enough for the apologistsSep 12 22:51
cubevectoryeah, you can have it on a midget screenSep 12 22:52
cubevectorwin7 seems slower than XP and I already thought XP was slowSep 12 22:53
*schestowitz likes the name "DHELL"Sep 12 23:02
MinceR:)Sep 12 23:02
schestowitzDaemonicHellSep 12 23:02
schestowitzOr DHellSep 12 23:02
schestowitzMaybe I'll use that if you don't mindSep 12 23:03
MinceRi certainly don't mindSep 12 23:03
schestowitzHow about AgedP?Sep 12 23:03
MinceRwhat's that?Sep 12 23:03
MinceRohSep 12 23:03
schestowitzOld HPSep 12 23:03
MinceRHPSep 12 23:03
MinceR:)Sep 12 23:03
schestowitzBut I rarely have reason to rant about the Old man (AgedP)Sep 12 23:04
cubevectorbut Old HP was goodSep 12 23:04
schestowitzTomorrow I have good posts to publishSep 12 23:04
cubevectorit's new HP that's badSep 12 23:04
schestowitzOld Spice with HP sauceSep 12 23:04
schestowitz"Extra strength"Sep 12 23:05
cubevectorhey, HP sauce is good :)Sep 12 23:05
schestowitzSmells loveliciousSep 12 23:05
cubevectorI have to pay extra for imported HP :)Sep 12 23:05
schestowitzIt's made in the UKSep 12 23:05
schestowitzBirmindgham IIRCSep 12 23:05
schestowitz[no "d"]Sep 12 23:05
MinceR(the "d" is silent)Sep 12 23:06
schestowitzI find this spicy ketchup I have an hour agoSep 12 23:06
schestowitzWith chicken nuggets... works greatSep 12 23:06
schestowitzMinceR: aha! my subconscious mind corrected by adding the long-lost DeeSep 12 23:07
schestowitzLike silent H in DHellSep 12 23:07
schestowitzhypePod...Sep 12 23:07
schestowitzhypephone never worksSep 12 23:07
schestowitzIt sounds differentSep 12 23:07
schestowitzPhoneticallySep 12 23:07
schestowitzhypeAd and hypeOS tooSep 12 23:08
schestowitzhypeTooonsSep 12 23:08
schestowitzit needs to be iP[something] where something doesn't start with HSep 12 23:09
schestowitzThen it sounds like "ype" is silentSep 12 23:09
MinceRwell, there are alternativesSep 12 23:10
MinceRsuch as iGroanSep 12 23:10
schestowitziGroinSep 12 23:10
MinceRand of course jesusPhoneSep 12 23:10
MinceR(jPhone)Sep 12 23:10
schestowitzSteve Jobs doesn't have thatSep 12 23:10
schestowitziLive[r]Sep 12 23:10
MinceR:DSep 12 23:10
MinceRMicrosoft Windows Liver!Sep 12 23:10
schestowitzuDieSep 12 23:11
schestowitzJudahSep 12 23:11
schestowitzYouTubeSep 12 23:11
schestowitziTubeSep 12 23:11
MinceRPopular Front of JudeaSep 12 23:11
schestowitzApple could give that a goSep 12 23:11
MinceRPeople's Front of JudeaSep 12 23:11
schestowitzRIAA?Sep 12 23:11
MinceRjust random Life of Brian referencesSep 12 23:11
schestowitzPeople's Front of FanboisSep 12 23:12
cubevectorI think Perens made a similar commentSep 12 23:12
schestowitzpff for shortSep 12 23:12
cubevectorbut he might have just quoted LoBSep 12 23:12
schestowitzPerens vanishedSep 12 23:12
schestowitzLike many othersSep 12 23:12
schestowitzI'm on his feedSep 12 23:12
cubevectorPerens is a good guySep 12 23:12
schestowitzHe blogs maybe once a month at mostSep 12 23:13
schestowitzcubevector: +1Sep 12 23:13
MinceRindeedSep 12 23:13
schestowitzHe also supported action aganist NovellSep 12 23:13
schestowitzSome people may know this but his letter to Novell (Nov 3rd) was instrumental in turning me to boycott NovellSep 12 23:13
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/09/07/aol-partners-with-ellen-degeneres jump the sharkSep 12 23:14
TechrightsBotTitle: AOL Partners With Ellen DeGeneres  | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.05 KBSep 12 23:14
cubevectorhe tries to be the bridge between Open and FreeSep 12 23:14
schestowitzMinceR: he talks oddlySep 12 23:14
schestowitzI know it's not fair to bring upSep 12 23:15
cubevectorand he realizes Stallman's importanceSep 12 23:15
schestowitzBut I wondered if he has a conditionSep 12 23:15
MinceRi don't think i remember seeing videos of himSep 12 23:15
schestowitzHold on then..Sep 12 23:15
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_perensSep 12 23:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Bruce Perens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 72.24 KBSep 12 23:15
schestowitzClick the videoSep 12 23:15
schestowitzYou'll see..Sep 12 23:16
schestowitzHe has refined his arguments like RMS over the many yearsSep 12 23:16
MinceRyes, it's strangeSep 12 23:16
cubevectornothing since Nov 2009 that I can findSep 12 23:16
schestowitzThe way he presents it strikes me as a tad deficiet cause of how he speaksSep 12 23:16
schestowitzAlso See "Revolution OS". There too he speaks like thisSep 12 23:17
MinceRoh, i've seen thatSep 12 23:17
schestowitzRMS too can speak oddly sometimesSep 12 23:17
schestowitzIn face-to-face scenariosSep 12 23:17
MinceRhow?Sep 12 23:17
schestowitzBot-likeSep 12 23:17
cubevectora lot of programmers are like thatSep 12 23:18
cubevectorintroverted, maybe a bit eccentricSep 12 23:18
cubevectoror a lot :)Sep 12 23:18
MinceRdunnoSep 12 23:19
MinceRi've found his communication to be very hacker-ish :)Sep 12 23:19
schestowitzThen you have people mentioning mild http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aspergiSep 12 23:19
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 12 23:19
schestowitzcubevector: yesSep 12 23:19
schestowitznot allSep 12 23:19
schestowitzLinus is also shySep 12 23:19
schestowitzHe hates public speakingSep 12 23:19
schestowitzHe rarely does it because of itSep 12 23:19
schestowitzBTWSep 12 23:19
schestowitzJono...Sep 12 23:20
cubevectornot overly polite either :)Sep 12 23:20
schestowitzHe vanished(ish)Sep 12 23:20
schestowitzLittle dentingSep 12 23:20
schestowitzNot much appearance-wiseSep 12 23:20
MinceRLinus seemed to do fine in his talk about GitSep 12 23:20
schestowitzyesSep 12 23:20
schestowitzRareSep 12 23:20
cubevectorlook at the videos on X on youtube sometimeSep 12 23:20
schestowitzGit is oneSep 12 23:20
cubevectorthey are a tad strange :)Sep 12 23:20
schestowitzName another recent oneSep 12 23:20
schestowitzYou'd struggleSep 12 23:20
MinceRbut then, Free Software can't afford armies of marketroids, unlike marketing/legal companies like crApple and m$Sep 12 23:20
schestowitzcubevector: yeah :-)Sep 12 23:21
schestowitzMinceR: Apple lets BSD hackers do codeSep 12 23:21
MinceRindeedSep 12 23:21
schestowitzApple does marketing and claims creditSep 12 23:21
MinceRsometimes even non-BSD hackersSep 12 23:21
MinceRthey also rip off GCC and KDESep 12 23:21
schestowitzAnd BSDs (supposedly acne-ridden in parents' basement) say "go APple'Sep 12 23:21
MinceRthat's the worseSep 12 23:22
schestowitzBSD doesn't have enough for themSep 12 23:22
MinceRwhen supposed bsd fanboys boost m$ and crAppleSep 12 23:22
schestowitzLike OS without multitasking.. hypeOSSep 12 23:22
cubevectorI've been looking at the history of BSD latelySep 12 23:22
MinceRperhaps to compensate for the fact that nobody cares about bsd-s anymoreSep 12 23:22
schestowitzAsk Jobs when he'll donate sparesSep 12 23:22
MinceRthey pretend that bsd is doing well through winblows and macos xSep 12 23:22
schestowitzAs in, give back to the communitySep 12 23:23
schestowitzMinceR: yesASep 12 23:23
schestowitzAs in, "We do them a favour by spread it"Sep 12 23:23
schestowitz[as proprietary]Sep 12 23:23
schestowitz"OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"Sep 12 23:23
schestowitz"MOAR CODE... need MORE CODE, you forking DORKS!!"Sep 12 23:23
MinceRand when they "buy" a crApple product, they also believe that they own it :>Sep 12 23:23
MinceReven though they've only paid for the privilege of hosting one of the gadgets owned by BlowSep 12 23:24
schestowitzIt's stamped with the forbidden fruit, MinceRSep 12 23:24
schestowitzSo it's their Sep 12 23:24
schestowitzSo it's theirsSep 12 23:24
schestowitzAsk the snakeSep 12 23:24
MinceRnot just thatSep 12 23:25
MinceRit's also part of their botnetSep 12 23:25
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoH-9hPFVmsSep 12 23:25
TechrightsBotTitle:     YouTube        - God. Adam and Eve, and the snake.wmv   .::. Size~: 93.1 KBSep 12 23:25
schestowitzHe's hilariousSep 12 23:25
MinceRremote install/uninstall of code without user controlSep 12 23:25
cubevectorwell the whole issue of trustSep 12 23:26
cubevectorall your based are belong to us :)Sep 12 23:26
cubevectorbase Sep 12 23:26
cubevectoryou need windows geniune advantage!Sep 12 23:28
MinceRwinblows is a botnet tooSep 12 23:28
schestowitz"Advantage Microsoft. Match."Sep 12 23:28
MinceRor rather, multiple botnets in oneSep 12 23:28
schestowitzIt took down s***eSep 12 23:29
MinceRyou get to have DRM updates and winblows update foisted on you and then trojans find you and make you a part of their botnets as wellSep 12 23:29
schestowitzPeople couldn't phone for like a whole daySep 12 23:29
schestowitzskype has been table sinceSep 12 23:29
schestowitz*stable tooSep 12 23:30
MinceRskype is another botnetSep 12 23:30
schestowitzYesSep 12 23:30
schestowitzthey have "supernodes"Sep 12 23:30
schestowitzYou don't wanna become oneSep 12 23:30
schestowitzEsp. if you have capsSep 12 23:30
MinceRyou don't see what code they're running on "your" computer and you don't see what they talk over "your" network connectionSep 12 23:31
cubevectorI do though :)Sep 12 23:32
schestowitzwhat a stupid idea: vSep 12 23:34
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/09/oracle_buy_hp/Sep 12 23:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Could Oracle buy HP? • The Register .::. Size~: 25.95 KBSep 12 23:34
schestowitz[21:54] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [jonobacon/@jonobacon] Back after a week of vacation - was nice to get away. :-)Sep 12 23:45
schestowitzOh.Sep 12 23:45
schestowitz[22:54] <MinceR> ew, comes with zuckerberg sweatSep 12 23:48
schestowitzSweatyMSep 12 23:48
MinceRzweatySep 12 23:49
schestowitzIt's the "Z" that gives it all the hormones and sweat Sep 12 23:53
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/09/ios_4_dot_1_jailbreak/Sep 13 00:05
TechrightsBotTitle: Jailbreak hole in iOS 4.1 will be hard to close • The Register .::. Size~: 24.42 KBSep 13 00:05
schestowitzhttp://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/06/nokia_n8_pamela_anderson/Sep 13 00:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Pamela Anderson gets her kit off for Nokia • reghardware .::. Size~: 18.64 KBSep 13 00:15
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/08/vodafone_china_mobile/Sep 13 00:30
TechrightsBotTitle: Vodafone gets out of China • The Register .::. Size~: 23.84 KBSep 13 00:30
schestowitzI quite like to rely only on YouTube channel for shows now. http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/09/08/youtube-launches-travel-channel-with-norwegian-cruise-lineSep 13 00:35
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube Launches Travel Channel With Norwegian Cruise Line | WebProNews .::. Size~: 36.12 KBSep 13 00:35

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