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schestowitz> In one of the videos here:Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2010/09/23/richard-stallman-software-patents-au/Sep 23 19:26
TechrightsBotTitle: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.58 KBSep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> You hear of on the EPO guy.Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Do you know anybody who has an audio recording of this session?Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Sep 23 19:26
schestowitz> Best,Sep 23 19:26
schestowitzzoobab: I'll keep on eye on what's being published. I only have less access than you, via the WebSep 23 19:27
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neighborlee_well so much for using fedora..they'default' to gnome still, and gnome is heavily entrenched in gnome , still as of 9/17/2010 whereby tomboy online 'integrates' with tomboy notetaking application..I was really looking fwd to trying new fedora, but no thx ill have to wait yet again :)Sep 23 19:29
MinceRi think one of the "gnome"s there were meant to be "mono"Sep 23 19:30
neighborlee_entrenched in mono is of coursewhat I meant to type <Sep 23 19:30
schestowitztry pclinuxos, neighborlee_Sep 23 19:31
schestowitzTime to quit Windows, no?Sep 23 19:31
neighborlee_never really liked it,,nor its community membersSep 23 19:31
MinceRway past time to quit windows :>Sep 23 19:31
neighborlee_schestowitz: I can't atm..totally impossibleSep 23 19:31
MinceR(but it's still possible)Sep 23 19:31
neighborlee_I might not like gates/windows, but atm its mandatory for my sanitySep 23 19:31
neighborlee_beyond that i'd be mired in wine almost all the timeSep 23 19:32
MinceRyou have sanity? :>Sep 23 19:32
neighborlee_not if im using wine half my life ;)Sep 23 19:32
MinceRbetter than using windows all your life, imoSep 23 19:33
neighborlee_well at least I know what im getting into with windows..I expect no morals..I expected better things from linux, and I never got itSep 23 19:33
MinceRwell, i did :>Sep 23 19:34
neighborlee_hope remains that ubuntu willl wize up ;0-0Sep 23 19:34
MinceRthere's life beyond ubuntuSep 23 19:34
neighborlee_maybeSep 23 19:34
neighborlee_I might try pcbsd sometime soon..at least they default to kde --Sep 23 19:34
schestowitzyeahSep 23 19:35
schestowitz4.4Sep 23 19:35
neighborlee_once I get a new HD or make room on this oneSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_niceSep 23 19:35
schestowitzexcuseSep 23 19:35
schestowitzHeard it beforeSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_lolSep 23 19:35
schestowitzHard drive can't be too small to install a distroSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_this time its actuallly true <wink>Sep 23 19:35
schestowitzunless you use one from 15 years agoSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_well im picky 'where' I install itSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_atm I hav e no free partitionSep 23 19:35
neighborlee_working on that.Sep 23 19:36
neighborlee_I really need a external driveSep 23 19:36
MinceRfunny, i moved to gnu/linux with a new hard driveSep 23 19:36
MinceR(and a new PC, iirc)Sep 23 19:36
neighborlee_nice ;)Sep 23 19:36
neighborlee_well I do look fwd to moving for sure...quite liberatingSep 23 19:37
MinceR(it was my chance to plan partitioning in a way to make room for it)Sep 23 19:37
neighborlee_yupSep 23 19:37
MinceRnow one of my external HDDs has a partition specifically for trying out new distrosSep 23 19:38
schestowitzneighborlee_: try kde 4.4Sep 23 19:43
schestowitzI moved some people to it this weekSep 23 19:44
schestowitzBetter than XPSep 23 19:44
neighborlee_excellent newsSep 23 20:03
neighborlee_som etimes I miss simplicity of XP, but   as HEAVY a lift as win7 is, its safer in general im rather sure of thatSep 23 20:04
neighborlee_and sadly way more piggy on resources :)Sep 23 20:04
MinceRxp has simplicity?Sep 23 20:04
neighborlee_compared to win 7..hell yesSep 23 20:04
neighborlee_win7 removed the 'ease' with which you can add 'quicklaunch' for startersSep 23 20:05
neighborlee_thats just stupidSep 23 20:05
neighborlee_linux had a HUGE opportunity in vista ,,and slightly less so in win7..but its still a looming prospect if linux can take advantage of it.Sep 23 20:05
MinceRthe internals are mostly the same overcomplicated mess thoughSep 23 20:05
MinceRvista7 probably adds some complexity in some placesSep 23 20:06
neighborlee_well I wont argue that for sureSep 23 20:06
neighborlee_one of M$'S worst mistakes was the nutty registrySep 23 20:06
MinceRindeedSep 23 20:06
neighborlee_I was on the phone several days..at least a hour each day, trying to get MSE ( microsoft s ecurity essentails) to installSep 23 20:07
neighborlee_each time I had a lovely indian person..almost always very nice yes yes..and each time I had trouble understanding them,,and they me sadly enough.Sep 23 20:07
neighborlee_outsourcing is hurting them in a huge waySep 23 20:07
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schestowitzNot reallySep 23 20:08
schestowitzSaves moneySep 23 20:08
schestowitzBut makes the products shoddierSep 23 20:09
schestowitzSo depends where you lookSep 23 20:09
MinceRit's quite the challenge to make m$ products shoddierSep 23 20:09
MinceRthere's not a lot of room for thatSep 23 20:09
schestowitzThere is.Sep 23 20:11
neighborlee_schestowitz: and ruins their reputation in the processSep 23 20:11
schestowitzKINSep 23 20:11
schestowitzMakes them seem popular in the EastSep 23 20:11
schestowitzUnless you work for FoxconnSep 23 20:11
neighborlee_definitely lolSep 23 20:11
schestowitz"They give us jobs"Sep 23 20:11
schestowitzWashington becomes more aware..Sep 23 20:11
MinceRhand- or blow-?Sep 23 20:11
schestowitzThey WA workers are on visasSep 23 20:11
schestowitzAnd workforce is fires, then hired mostly in places like India and ChinaSep 23 20:12
schestowitzAnd Microsoft does not opay tax in WASep 23 20:12
schestowitzIOW, Micosoft brings almost nothing to its country/state as the years go bySep 23 20:12
schestowitzMicrosoft increases unemploymentSep 23 20:12
neighborlee_no huge surprise thereSep 23 20:12
schestowitzby taking Netscape/Yahoo/etc out of businessSep 23 20:13
schestowitzAnd then paying ~0% taxSep 23 20:13
neighborlee_wa state ,,,where they are in redmond..is one of the biggets taxed counties in our country ;)Sep 23 20:13
schestowitzAnd hiring foreignersSep 23 20:13
schestowitz[20:13] <neighborlee_> wa state ,,,where they are in redmond..is one of the biggets taxed counties in our country ;)Sep 23 20:13
schestowitzNot MicrosoftSep 23 20:13
schestowitzIt does the accounting in NevadaSep 23 20:13
neighborlee_<schestowitz> IOW, Micosoft brings almost nothing to its country/state as the years go bySep 23 20:13
schestowitzAnd the WA  Rep. is a former MS managerSep 23 20:13
neighborlee_M$ IS in redmond, wa,,is what I meantSep 23 20:13
neighborlee_ie: headquartersSep 23 20:14
schestowitzYou need to read up Techrights posts from last week to catch up if you want the detailed explanationSep 23 20:14
neighborlee_ahSep 23 20:14
schestowitzMicrosoft to Remond is what the Taliban is to the hospital it hides inSep 23 20:15
MinceRThe War On Your Mom? :>Sep 23 20:18
schestowitzThe war on post-menstrualismSep 23 20:21
schestowitzSounds like activism against abortion clinics or something..Sep 23 20:21
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