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| schestowitz | > In one of the videos here: | Sep 23 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2010/09/23/richard-stallman-software-patents-au/ | Sep 23 19:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.58 KB | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > You hear of on the EPO guy. | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > Do you know anybody who has an audio recording of this session? | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I'll keep on eye on what's being published. I only have less access than you, via the Web | Sep 23 19:27 |
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| neighborlee_ | well so much for using fedora..they'default' to gnome still, and gnome is heavily entrenched in gnome , still as of 9/17/2010 whereby tomboy online 'integrates' with tomboy notetaking application..I was really looking fwd to trying new fedora, but no thx ill have to wait yet again :) | Sep 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | i think one of the "gnome"s there were meant to be "mono" | Sep 23 19:30 |
| neighborlee_ | entrenched in mono is of coursewhat I meant to type < | Sep 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | try pclinuxos, neighborlee_ | Sep 23 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Time to quit Windows, no? | Sep 23 19:31 |
| neighborlee_ | never really liked it,,nor its community members | Sep 23 19:31 |
| MinceR | way past time to quit windows :> | Sep 23 19:31 |
| neighborlee_ | schestowitz: I can't atm..totally impossible | Sep 23 19:31 |
| MinceR | (but it's still possible) | Sep 23 19:31 |
| neighborlee_ | I might not like gates/windows, but atm its mandatory for my sanity | Sep 23 19:31 |
| neighborlee_ | beyond that i'd be mired in wine almost all the time | Sep 23 19:32 |
| MinceR | you have sanity? :> | Sep 23 19:32 |
| neighborlee_ | not if im using wine half my life ;) | Sep 23 19:32 |
| MinceR | better than using windows all your life, imo | Sep 23 19:33 |
| neighborlee_ | well at least I know what im getting into with windows..I expect no morals..I expected better things from linux, and I never got it | Sep 23 19:33 |
| MinceR | well, i did :> | Sep 23 19:34 |
| neighborlee_ | hope remains that ubuntu willl wize up ;0-0 | Sep 23 19:34 |
| MinceR | there's life beyond ubuntu | Sep 23 19:34 |
| neighborlee_ | maybe | Sep 23 19:34 |
| neighborlee_ | I might try pcbsd sometime soon..at least they default to kde -- | Sep 23 19:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | 4.4 | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | once I get a new HD or make room on this one | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | nice | Sep 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | excuse | Sep 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Heard it before | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | lol | Sep 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Hard drive can't be too small to install a distro | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | this time its actuallly true <wink> | Sep 23 19:35 |
| schestowitz | unless you use one from 15 years ago | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | well im picky 'where' I install it | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | atm I hav e no free partition | Sep 23 19:35 |
| neighborlee_ | working on that. | Sep 23 19:36 |
| neighborlee_ | I really need a external drive | Sep 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | funny, i moved to gnu/linux with a new hard drive | Sep 23 19:36 |
| MinceR | (and a new PC, iirc) | Sep 23 19:36 |
| neighborlee_ | nice ;) | Sep 23 19:36 |
| neighborlee_ | well I do look fwd to moving for sure...quite liberating | Sep 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | (it was my chance to plan partitioning in a way to make room for it) | Sep 23 19:37 |
| neighborlee_ | yup | Sep 23 19:37 |
| MinceR | now one of my external HDDs has a partition specifically for trying out new distros | Sep 23 19:38 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee_: try kde 4.4 | Sep 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I moved some people to it this week | Sep 23 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Better than XP | Sep 23 19:44 |
| neighborlee_ | excellent news | Sep 23 20:03 |
| neighborlee_ | som etimes I miss simplicity of XP, but as HEAVY a lift as win7 is, its safer in general im rather sure of that | Sep 23 20:04 |
| neighborlee_ | and sadly way more piggy on resources :) | Sep 23 20:04 |
| MinceR | xp has simplicity? | Sep 23 20:04 |
| neighborlee_ | compared to win 7..hell yes | Sep 23 20:04 |
| neighborlee_ | win7 removed the 'ease' with which you can add 'quicklaunch' for starters | Sep 23 20:05 |
| neighborlee_ | thats just stupid | Sep 23 20:05 |
| neighborlee_ | linux had a HUGE opportunity in vista ,,and slightly less so in win7..but its still a looming prospect if linux can take advantage of it. | Sep 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | the internals are mostly the same overcomplicated mess though | Sep 23 20:05 |
| MinceR | vista7 probably adds some complexity in some places | Sep 23 20:06 |
| neighborlee_ | well I wont argue that for sure | Sep 23 20:06 |
| neighborlee_ | one of M$'S worst mistakes was the nutty registry | Sep 23 20:06 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 23 20:06 |
| neighborlee_ | I was on the phone several days..at least a hour each day, trying to get MSE ( microsoft s ecurity essentails) to install | Sep 23 20:07 |
| neighborlee_ | each time I had a lovely indian person..almost always very nice yes yes..and each time I had trouble understanding them,,and they me sadly enough. | Sep 23 20:07 |
| neighborlee_ | outsourcing is hurting them in a huge way | Sep 23 20:07 |
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| schestowitz | Not really | Sep 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Saves money | Sep 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | But makes the products shoddier | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | So depends where you look | Sep 23 20:09 |
| MinceR | it's quite the challenge to make m$ products shoddier | Sep 23 20:09 |
| MinceR | there's not a lot of room for that | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | There is. | Sep 23 20:11 |
| neighborlee_ | schestowitz: and ruins their reputation in the process | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | KIN | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Makes them seem popular in the East | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Unless you work for Foxconn | Sep 23 20:11 |
| neighborlee_ | definitely lol | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | "They give us jobs" | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Washington becomes more aware.. | Sep 23 20:11 |
| MinceR | hand- or blow-? | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | They WA workers are on visas | Sep 23 20:11 |
| schestowitz | And workforce is fires, then hired mostly in places like India and China | Sep 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft does not opay tax in WA | Sep 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | IOW, Micosoft brings almost nothing to its country/state as the years go by | Sep 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft increases unemployment | Sep 23 20:12 |
| neighborlee_ | no huge surprise there | Sep 23 20:12 |
| schestowitz | by taking Netscape/Yahoo/etc out of business | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | And then paying ~0% tax | Sep 23 20:13 |
| neighborlee_ | wa state ,,,where they are in redmond..is one of the biggets taxed counties in our country ;) | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | And hiring foreigners | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | [20:13] <neighborlee_> wa state ,,,where they are in redmond..is one of the biggets taxed counties in our country ;) | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Not Microsoft | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | It does the accounting in Nevada | Sep 23 20:13 |
| neighborlee_ | <schestowitz> IOW, Micosoft brings almost nothing to its country/state as the years go by | Sep 23 20:13 |
| schestowitz | And the WA Rep. is a former MS manager | Sep 23 20:13 |
| neighborlee_ | M$ IS in redmond, wa,,is what I meant | Sep 23 20:13 |
| neighborlee_ | ie: headquarters | Sep 23 20:14 |
| schestowitz | You need to read up Techrights posts from last week to catch up if you want the detailed explanation | Sep 23 20:14 |
| neighborlee_ | ah | Sep 23 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft to Remond is what the Taliban is to the hospital it hides in | Sep 23 20:15 |
| MinceR | The War On Your Mom? :> | Sep 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | The war on post-menstrualism | Sep 23 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like activism against abortion clinics or something.. | Sep 23 20:21 |
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