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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://rww.tw/dcgTSx -- why do you think there were NO reporters..... | Sep 06 03:25 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls are very busy these days | Sep 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Trolling me again with very old material, wonder about timing... | Sep 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | " vindycareg@gmail.com aka verofakto is another astroturfer. If you need help, I am here." -Anon | Sep 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz | brb out with the dogs | Sep 06 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Wonder | Sep 06 12:50 |
| oiaohm | This is getting me where is the new material. | Sep 06 12:50 |
| oiaohm | From the Trolls | Sep 06 12:50 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they don't need more exposure, they are largely ignored as it is | Sep 06 13:10 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/48742662#notice-49146685 "@schestowitz GNOME Activity Journal is a Python app, not Mono." - but see http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/08/help-with-mono-for-zeitgeist/ | Sep 06 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | Wolf in sheep clothing | Sep 06 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Now they are trolling the FFII [the Microsoft AstroTurfers do] | Sep 06 14:17 |
| oiaohm | There is ironpython schestowitz | Sep 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Still? | Sep 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | I think that it's at risk like ironruby | Sep 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | IDG AU | Sep 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz | I think Rodney Gedda published about it last month | Sep 06 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Most of the python world wants nothing todo with ironpython. | Sep 06 14:25 |
| oiaohm | http://shed-skin.blogspot.com/ Really this is more useful. | Sep 06 14:27 |
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| schestowitz | ...Never came 'cross it before... | Sep 06 14:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion%20&%20Analysis/Troop%20withdrawal%20mere%20propaganda/-/539548/1002466/-/9b17edz/-/ | Sep 06 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Business Daily: - Opinion & Analysis |Troop withdrawal mere propaganda .::. Size~: 33.39 KB | Sep 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-to-launch-psas-featuring-muslim-911-first-responders-101890668.html | Sep 06 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: CAIR to Launch PSAs Featuring Muslim 9/11 First Responders -- WASHINGTON, Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 51.96 KB | Sep 06 16:47 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/9dMvo.jpg (from http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/da62z/oh_god_twitter/ ) | Sep 06 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, FurnaceBoy | Sep 06 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Did you get my message in Twitter? | Sep 06 17:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: old | Sep 06 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Been in the IRC channel last week | Sep 06 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "you>>reddit>>digg>>blogs>>huffingtonpost>>reddit>>your grandmother>>digg>>you" | Sep 06 17:34 |
| schestowitz | HuffN'Puff | Sep 06 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "You wouldn't eat a bible" | Sep 06 17:35 |
| schestowitz | "I would if it was edible and delicious" | Sep 06 17:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Sep 06 17:39 |
| MinceR | hay | Sep 06 17:40 |
| schestowitz | ohi | Sep 06 17:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: got ur msg. | Sep 06 17:47 |
| schestowitz | Watch it | Sep 06 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok ok just for you! | Sep 06 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Tell me what you think, it has that TIme thing | Sep 06 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok | Sep 06 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes that goddamned cover was a gift | Sep 06 17:48 |
| schestowitz | You were right about it being used as propaganda | Sep 06 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | dude it may be the most blatant piece of propaganda issued in my lifetime... | Sep 06 17:48 |
| schestowitz | They can top that | Sep 06 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | probably stuff from 2001-2003 tops it | Sep 06 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Headless/beheaded people... "what would happen if we didn't bail out the bank" | Sep 06 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol @ 2:50 | Sep 06 17:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | this is great | Sep 06 17:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this deserves wider broadcast | Sep 06 17:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh gawd, that skinhead offering the article | Sep 06 17:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's exactly who it's aimed at | Sep 06 17:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | "TIME. Read by unthinkers everywhere." | Sep 06 17:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | "TIME. The comforting message." | Sep 06 17:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | "TIME. Everything is fine as it is." | Sep 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | [17:56] <FurnaceBoy> oh gawd, that skinhead offering the article | Sep 06 18:00 |
| schestowitz | That's what I like about it | Sep 06 18:00 |
| schestowitz | At war he'd be all screaming and stuff | Sep 06 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Real Rambo | Sep 06 18:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | it certainly lays out the problem in black and white | Sep 06 18:00 |
| schestowitz | But here he hands a picture of a lady like a flight attendant | Sep 06 18:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | the girl put the problem quite well | Sep 06 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "Here, have a cup of noseless person" | Sep 06 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 06 18:01 |
| schestowitz | THe machos fight for girls | Sep 06 18:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | then go home and beat them up. | Sep 06 18:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | it doesn't work on any level. | Sep 06 18:01 |
| schestowitz | All those enriched uranium shells... for girls and boys | Sep 06 18:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | that man isn't a feminist. | Sep 06 18:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | he doesn't have the first clue about feminism | Sep 06 18:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's the face of western misogyny | Sep 06 18:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | and then he goes and kills civilian women wholesale | Sep 06 18:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's false all the way down schestowitz | Sep 06 18:02 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how many photocopies of that TIme cover they got | Sep 06 18:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | exactly | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Do you reckon Time or Murdoch mail them a stack every morning? | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | I mean, they could at least do colour prints | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | To enhance the drama | Sep 06 18:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | it woudl be a memo suggesting the cover can be used for public relations | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Or maybe it's part of the pack the teens who come to recruitment take home at the end | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "Look what I ga', pa'1" | Sep 06 18:03 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: he could give just the photo | Sep 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz | But he didn't | Sep 06 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | "that's wonderful son, you're doing the right thing" | Sep 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz | He gave it with the wrapping | Sep 06 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Sep 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Like marmalade | Sep 06 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | he believes it. | Sep 06 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | all that's required for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing. | Sep 06 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | so the girl immediately yells, "That's why we're doing something!" | Sep 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz | True | Sep 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz | In reverse of what they meant | Sep 06 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Depends what's "Evil" | Sep 06 18:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Sep 06 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Boith sides can be evil | Sep 06 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I think Zinn said that | Sep 06 18:05 |
| schestowitz | He realised it after carpet-bombing Europe, IIRC | Sep 06 18:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I just soigned up!" | Sep 06 18:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | ouch, i didn't realise london police were armed now | Sep 06 18:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | holy crap | Sep 06 18:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | talk about a compliant population | Sep 06 18:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | cctv is enough to keep me out of the country | Sep 06 18:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: depressing video | Sep 06 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: all this shite is WORKING. since 2003. | Sep 06 18:08 |
| schestowitz | [18:06] <FurnaceBoy> ouch, i didn't realise london police were armed now | Sep 06 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Automatic guns go way back | Sep 06 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh? | Sep 06 18:09 |
| schestowitz | I first saw them in Heathrow like a decade ago | Sep 06 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah but beat cops? | Sep 06 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Menacing in a way. I mean, it's civilian space | Sep 06 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Why would they want to spray the zone with bullets? | Sep 06 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you tihnk that's bad, check out the weaponry on the cash delivery van guards in Brazil ;-) | Sep 06 18:10 |
| schestowitz | I mean, under what circumstances would it be reasonable. Some have armor also for the head. | Sep 06 18:10 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: flame thrower? | Sep 06 18:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, but it is all part of it.. guns in airports is pretty traditional. | Sep 06 18:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | are* | Sep 06 18:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Robert Dziekanski was killed by just a taser | Sep 06 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: he'd emigrated to Canada hours before | Sep 06 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: landed | Sep 06 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Panzer police? | Sep 06 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Karma police? | Sep 06 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | RCMP | Sep 06 18:12 |
| MinceR | RHCP | Sep 06 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | TCP/IP | Sep 06 18:12 |
| MinceR | DHCP | Sep 06 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeLAELIxKY | Sep 06 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube- KARMA POLICE-RADIOHEAD .::. Size~: 116.92 KB | Sep 06 18:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | ah, good song. | Sep 06 18:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | the running man looks like a middle aged version of the megaphone guy | Sep 06 18:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | "this is what you get / when you mess with US" | Sep 06 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I like this one better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqsyXdj_p_I&feature=related | Sep 06 18:19 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: imagine how many millions of ppl were persuaded by that TIME cover to never consider an antiwar position. it's pure "speak to the reptile brain" stuff. | Sep 06 19:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: designer drug. Beauty + disfigurement + honour + good/evil ... | Sep 06 19:01 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: why do we syndicate rofrol's crApple spam? | Sep 06 19:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's even better than hollywood because the delivery mechanism has the consensus significance of 'truthful journalism' | Sep 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't know why it's still there. I removed him some days ago | Sep 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz | I need to recheck | Sep 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Oddly enough he's from " * #exherbo" | Sep 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: truthful? Time? Not to me, it's not | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | rofrol on twitter? i see only good stuff in his feed | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | More people though realise this | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: of course, to you and me, it's not. | Sep 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: no, on identi.ca | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nor Newsweak - even worse. | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | The thing is, new laws and totality get passed to repress access to .alt sources | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: ah. because twitter's rofrol is interesting and relevant. | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: haha | Sep 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | NewsWeek | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Seen what they did to Wikileaks this week? | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: check it, http://twitter.com/rofrol | Sep 06 19:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Roman (rofrol) on Twitter .::. Size~: 33.17 KB | Sep 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Now they pretend WIkileaks disowns Assange | Sep 06 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: wtf | Sep 06 19:05 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 06 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's gonna get doity | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Let me get the link | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | in Techrights ATM | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/2010/09/04/efforts-afoot-to-oust-assange-as-wikileaks-leader.html | Sep 06 19:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The War Within WikiLeaks - Newsweek .::. Size~: 37.5 KB | Sep 06 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | ah see, i'm successfully evading distraction here ! | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | From http://techrights.org/?stories#leftovers | Sep 06 19:05 |
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| FurnaceBoy | WTF? | Sep 06 19:05 |
| MinceR | i don't get this guy | Sep 06 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Efforts afoot?" | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Foot in mouth | Sep 06 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | holy crap this is making me angry | Sep 06 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | just the URL | Sep 06 19:05 |
| MinceR | if he posts relevant stuff and crApple spam, why put the latter in identi.ca? | Sep 06 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | i haven't even opened it yet | Sep 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | the sheep are all on twitter, are they not? | Sep 06 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | lulz | Sep 06 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Sep 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | baa chirp | Sep 06 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: don't confuse the medium w/ users. ther's a lot of idiots on youtube too, but we still link to it. | Sep 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz | "sheeple"? | Sep 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | sure | Sep 06 19:06 |
| MinceR | but we don't read the comments ;) | Sep 06 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: a lot of very good ppl are on twitter | Sep 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz | I support Julian and ANYONE who actually supports the site does too | Sep 06 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: people don't seem to get that you are in TOTAL control of what you see on twitter. | Sep 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Those who pretend to support the site try to get him out | Sep 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Invade, Divide, you know the rest... | Sep 06 19:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but between twitter and identi.ca, the former is more mainstream and it's under control | Sep 06 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: that is, non-using critics | Sep 06 19:07 |
| MinceR | so it would seem to be a better place for the crApple spam | Sep 06 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: not sure what you mean. my feed is very much non-mainstream.. | Sep 06 19:07 |
| schestowitz | The military is expert at infilitrating communities | Sep 06 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Sep 06 19:07 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: well, you see mainstream places mentioning twitter, but not identica, is it not so? | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there's undoubtedly committees dedicated to neutralising wikileaks | Sep 06 19:08 |
| schestowitz | One person who comes to #techrights sometimes does this for a living in extreme groups | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: I am not sure why that matters | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: I go to twitter to hear interesting people | Sep 06 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Pretending to be a member of a political group | Sep 06 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Then spying on them | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: techrights is extreme? mere flattery | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | :D | Sep 06 19:08 |
| MinceR | it's just that i'd expect a greater probability of a given crApple cultist to use the former | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: i don't see why. | Sep 06 19:08 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: no | Sep 06 19:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: in fact, i'd argue the opposite | Sep 06 19:08 |
| schestowitz | We're actually the good guys to many in the services | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: twitter is mainstream, i.e. limiting to apple's mkt share | Sep 06 19:09 |
| schestowitz | They read us without participating, I discovered | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: identi.ca is canadian hipsters, much higher apple quotient | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: further, the apple users on twitter are less likely to be technical | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: and nontechnical ppl don't tweet about platforms | Sep 06 19:09 |
| MinceR | crApple users aren't technical | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: they swim in them | Sep 06 19:09 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: remember the coversation that took place here a whole back | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: see above | Sep 06 19:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: that's my point. | Sep 06 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Now one of the trolls try to pain techrights as anti-Semetic | Sep 06 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Wow, I guess "female repist" is next | Sep 06 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Now, if only they sent blondes to seduce you | Sep 06 19:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: some apple users are technical | Sep 06 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Some unix people | Sep 06 19:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: but in any case, the % of technical ppl on twitter and identi.ca is normalising asymptotically to average for mainstream | Sep 06 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Those who don't mind proprietary | Sep 06 19:10 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: i don't understand | Sep 06 19:11 |
| schestowitz | But others are people with more money than brains... and artsy ones | Sep 06 19:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: also, schestowitz's syndication is hand picked, which skews everythign | Sep 06 19:11 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: and user-hostile | Sep 06 19:11 |
| schestowitz | "Hipsters" they're sometimes called in the US this generation.. | Sep 06 19:11 |
| MinceR | rather, those who like to pretend they're artsy | Sep 06 19:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, that's why anti-war politics could be a problem for techrights, | Sep 06 19:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: b/c so many would like to equate antiwar with anti-israel | Sep 06 19:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: their computer is like porcelain | Sep 06 19:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not that i am saying anyone should bow to that nonsense | Sep 06 19:12 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: given context people won't fall for daemonisation | Sep 06 19:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hipsters is an old term, at least 60 years old. | Sep 06 19:13 |
| schestowitz | I calculate what I say and everything inc. E-mail is transparent | Sep 06 19:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Mailer wrote a famous essay about the hipster | Sep 06 19:13 |
| schestowitz | SOmetimes anonymised, so as to protect those who don't want identity out there | Sep 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | drooling at and copying crApple's cookie-cutter ugly "design" is hardly "art" | Sep 06 19:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure but it will be attempted as you say | Sep 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | 201217 < schestowitz> MinceR: their computer is like porcelain | Sep 06 19:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: head of Braun ? | Sep 06 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Like redacting Afghan memos for example | Sep 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | yes, it's full of shit | Sep 06 19:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | heard* | Sep 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: who? | Sep 06 19:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | the brand, Braun | Sep 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | i have | Sep 06 19:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | so you know who Dieter Rams is | Sep 06 19:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what thew flush symbol is the proprietary key is for | Sep 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | no, i don't | Sep 06 19:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | he was their industrial designer. | Sep 06 19:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | let me find you a link that will interest you | Sep 06 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Brown+porcelain | Sep 06 19:15 |
| MinceR | strange | Sep 06 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like a load of... never mind | Sep 06 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Apple did well... at marketing | Sep 06 19:15 |
| MinceR | the examples shown in WP look nothing like crApple crap | Sep 06 19:15 |
| MinceR | and Braun appliances look nothing like crApple crap | Sep 06 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Apple has decent designs | Sep 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | where? | Sep 06 19:16 |
| schestowitz | It can afford designers, I'll give them that | Sep 06 19:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: towers | Sep 06 19:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future | Sep 06 19:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 1960s Braun Products Hold the Secrets to Apple's Future .::. Size~: 90.93 KB | Sep 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | the toilet-seat hypeBook? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBook | Sep 06 19:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: actually, Braun and Apple are often identical | Sep 06 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: iBook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 90.08 KB | Sep 06 19:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: matter of taste, credit where it's due | Sep 06 19:17 |
| schestowitz | But I stare at a screen, it's not a car to pick ladies with | Sep 06 19:17 |
| MinceR | the fish tank hypeMac? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMac_Bondi_Blue.jpg | Sep 06 19:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: File:IMac Bondi Blue.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 34.74 KB | Sep 06 19:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: check the pictures accompanying the gizmodo article ^^ | Sep 06 19:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I had that at work | Sep 06 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Impractical but cute | Sep 06 19:17 |
| schestowitz | When the screen goes bad (CRT), good luck with all that | Sep 06 19:18 |
| MinceR | or the other toilet seat MacBook? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MacBook_white.png | Sep 06 19:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: File:MacBook white.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.65 KB | Sep 06 19:18 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen computers as fugly as these | Sep 06 19:18 |
| schestowitz | The keyboard's bad | Sep 06 19:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, one has to go to the PC world to find really beautiful industrial design | Sep 06 19:18 |
| schestowitz | The foldable keyboard I had feels better | Sep 06 19:18 |
| MinceR | if you're looking for beautiful industrial design, look elsewhere >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad | Sep 06 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: ThinkPad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 97.94 KB | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's for people with gentle hands and skinny fingers | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Or long fingernails | Sep 06 19:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | I think the MoMA has about 17 ASUS cases | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | ThinkPad I just find darn ugly | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It looks like a prototype | Sep 06 19:19 |
| MinceR | it looks like a computer | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | No | Sep 06 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It looks like a rugged PC | Sep 06 19:20 |
| schestowitz | For factory conditions | Sep 06 19:20 |
| MinceR | it doesn't try to look like something it's not, such as a toilet seat | Sep 06 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Durability, falls, etc | Sep 06 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Even OLPC XP 1.5might look better | Sep 06 19:20 |
| MinceR | isn't that what "industrial" is? :> | Sep 06 19:20 |
| schestowitz | *XO | Sep 06 19:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: home is no industry | Sep 06 19:20 |
| MinceR | it's no kindergarten either | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Industry is when you rent a company's laptop for a trap | Sep 06 19:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: did you chekc the gizmodo link? | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | *trip | Sep 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | not yet | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Then get some grubby thing to use on the train and treat badly | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Like used/shares bike | Sep 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | btw, the hypePods look worse than their contemporaries as well | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | me hates using other people's computers | Sep 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | same toilet seat plastic + ugly circular design | Sep 06 19:21 |
| schestowitz | s/me/\/me/ | Sep 06 19:22 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: that article ignores crApple's greatest design failures in the last 10 years; it also ignores that the Braun designs shown there are ancient (and simpler than the ones they're compared to) | Sep 06 19:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | it doesn't ignore the fact they're ancient. | Sep 06 19:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | it merely puts them side by side | Sep 06 19:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | and also discusses Ive's inspirations | Sep 06 19:23 |
| MinceR | even the new dhell latitudes look better than crApple craptops | Sep 06 19:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | so buy a Dell. | Sep 06 19:24 |
| MinceR | won't. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | i had one and don't want another. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | why would you obsess abuot industrial design when there are FAR worse problems with APple. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | i don't | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | so talk about the real problems. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | design is superficial. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's taste. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | i just said what i think about the crApple design that supposedly "artsy" people obsess over so much | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's boring to discuss. you hate it, he likes it. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | (even though it's always the same old same old) | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | but the POLITICS of Apple is the problem. | Sep 06 19:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's a real problem, not just a taste problem. | Sep 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | "durr hurr i'm so creative i do the exact same thing all the other sheep do" | Sep 06 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | you know what? i find cars ugly. but the problem of petrochemicals is what needs to be talked about. | Sep 06 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | see? | Sep 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | we're not restricted to one topic in our lifetime. | Sep 06 19:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | i could yammer on about how ugly the Hummer is that's parked across the street. | Sep 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | we can talk about more than one thing. | Sep 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | i don't think the H1 is so ugly | Sep 06 19:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | but i'd rather discuss the million dead in iraq so that hummers can start up. | Sep 06 19:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's more important to make people aware of the techrights issues with Apple, than your opinions on their industrial design, isn't it? | Sep 06 19:27 |
| MinceR | i have time for both | Sep 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | also, i'm no journalist | Sep 06 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah but what's changing? neither. | Sep 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | so what i discuss is unlikely to reach those people | Sep 06 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | so where should the effort go? | Sep 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | well, nothing is changing | Sep 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | people are idiots, the human society is an abusive scam | Sep 06 19:28 |
| MinceR | i have no army to change any of this with | Sep 06 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | actually, you do. | Sep 06 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | we all do. | Sep 06 19:29 |
| MinceR | where? | Sep 06 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | we're a bigger and more potent army than any military ever was. | Sep 06 19:29 |
| MinceR | hardly | Sep 06 19:29 |
| MinceR | the militaries around could easily kill us all | Sep 06 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz will bakc me up on that, because it's the whole reason he gets up and does techrights. | Sep 06 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: au contraire | Sep 06 19:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: they'd like you to think that. | Sep 06 19:30 |
| MinceR | well, i'm not bulletproof. are you? | Sep 06 19:30 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: hold on, on hold..... | Sep 06 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Sep 06 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | never mind, it was too subtle for you. | Sep 06 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | stick to the basic view. | Sep 06 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | keep bashin' that white plastic. | Sep 06 19:30 |
| *FurnaceBoy goes to do some work | Sep 06 19:30 | |
| MinceR | fail | Sep 06 19:30 |
| *schestowitz catches up | Sep 06 19:41 | |
| schestowitz | [19:28] <MinceR> also, i'm no journalist | Sep 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Nobody is | Sep 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | SOmeone with a journal=literate person | Sep 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: | Sep 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | [19:29] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz will bakc me up on that, because it's the whole reason he gets up and does techrights. | Sep 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | No | Sep 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I write a journal | Sep 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | To expose those whom I can, with evidence | Sep 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | It then gets used elsewhere in the chain | Sep 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Like legal actions | Sep 06 19:43 |
| MinceR | i'm not trained in the style one writes articles in | Sep 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Not militant ones | Sep 06 19:43 |
| MinceR | also, anything i write is very short | Sep 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | They just do us more harm than good | Sep 06 19:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you believe that raising awareness works | Sep 06 19:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: otherwise you'd sit in your basement and kvetch | Sep 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it does | Sep 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Vietnam war became unpopular due to it, now Iraq | Sep 06 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Sep 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Sign of the TIme [pun] | Sep 06 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | and if it was as simple as "we lose because we're not bulletproof," then we could never win | Sep 06 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | the Tiananmen square guy wasn't bulletproof. | Sep 06 19:44 |
| MinceR | the question is, how many of us are they willing to shoot :> | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | but he stood in front of the tank anyway. it's called "courage" | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: all of us. | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: the trick is to not allow that to be the winning move. | Sep 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | if the sheep manage to march us into slavery then there's not much we can do | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | ha! | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | blame THEM. | Sep 06 19:45 |
| MinceR | they support the armed oppression i'm subjected to | Sep 06 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | why do you come here, if you're already defeated? | Sep 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [19:45] <FurnaceBoy> but he stood in front of the tank anyway. it's called "courage" | Sep 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | I think about 200 died | Sep 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | But he got all the fame | Sep 06 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure | Sep 06 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Like Martin Luther did | Sep 06 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that always happens | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Not the many panther and mothers | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: doesn't matter. it's symbolic. | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Martin's Day | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that cannot be avoided. | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and MLK paid with his life eventually | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: like Malcolm X | Sep 06 19:47 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: i'm not sure if i'm already defeated yet or not | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | 'Paid..' | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | DId he suffer much? | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Like Gitmo? | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: well, don't be. they want you to think you are. | Sep 06 19:47 |
| MinceR | i'm hoping the few clueful people that exist are enough | Sep 06 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Hi family and peers suffered more | Sep 06 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: I'm convinced they are. | Sep 06 19:48 |
| MinceR | or that clue can be spread quickly enough yet | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: history tells us they are. | Sep 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Agony of one's fast death | Sep 06 19:48 |
| MinceR | history could be just the beginning of a transient :> | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i think you're applying the wrong criteria here..... | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not as if the one who suffered most need be on the front page. | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Biok | Sep 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I heard of other people | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Biko* | Sep 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | I think some of them felt betrayed | Sep 06 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there are a million martyrs | Sep 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Case of point: Julian | Sep 06 19:48 |
| schestowitz | He takes a lot of credit | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | His sacrifice/heroism is hereditary to an extent | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | It's Bradley who's in jail | Sep 06 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | sure | Sep 06 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | but Julian is running an incredible risk, schestowitz | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | That too | Sep 06 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they'd Gitmo him in a flash | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | But he got what he wanted | Sep 06 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: or just shoot him | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Bleaching his hair and giving talk, getting fame | Sep 06 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Not that he ruined his career | Sep 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz | he build it | Sep 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz | *(built | Sep 06 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no, i think he manifests real courage. | Sep 06 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i bet he cannot get life insurance ... he's at a very high risk of being suicided, shot, or detained | Sep 06 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: public enemy #1 | Sep 06 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not only that, his family and friends are too | Sep 06 19:51 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't need insurance | Sep 06 19:51 |
| schestowitz | No wife/kids | Sep 06 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | smart | Sep 06 19:51 |
| schestowitz | It' not a matter of injury | Sep 06 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Unless they trip him down a fly of stairs and run away | Sep 06 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Assange is necessary | Sep 06 19:51 |
| schestowitz | As a facilitator | Sep 06 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | as an explainer | Sep 06 19:52 |
| schestowitz | But there are other leak sites | Sep 06 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Like his co-founder's | Sep 06 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | let one thousand flowers bloom... | Sep 06 19:53 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/7UZ53.png (from http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/da724/an_exdigg_users_experience_of_reddit/ ) | Sep 06 20:01 |
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| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/rofrol/status/2391232435 | Sep 06 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: old news | Sep 06 20:36 |
| schestowitz | We wrote about this many times, a techrightser found this out | Sep 06 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: figured you would have | Sep 06 20:37 |
| schestowitz | v | Sep 06 20:37 |
| schestowitz | He suggested removing GIMP | Sep 06 20:37 |
| schestowitz | And later he announced Yahoo! (Bong) replacing GOogle i Ubuntu | Sep 06 20:37 |
| schestowitz | damn. I hate this keyboard, it's all a giant mess | Sep 06 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Next cover for Time: | Sep 06 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Nadia lying dead on the ground | Sep 06 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "What if we did not liberate Iran?" | Sep 06 20:46 |
| schestowitz | It's a shame Time can only be published once in /x/ weeks | Sep 06 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Pacing down propaganda pipelines | Sep 06 20:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | don't wrory the new online FOX News for Kids will help | Sep 06 20:53 |
| schestowitz | [20:56] <yano_t> hello, I've emailed you recently about CW, and anti google astroturfing | Sep 06 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <yano_t> I think there is pleanty of antigoogle stuff on reddit latley, example: | Sep 06 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <yano_t> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/daafn/google_is_now_working_to_simplify_its_privacy/ | Sep 06 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Google is now working to "simplify" its privacy policy (in reality "treating user data collection as part of an integrated platform"). Just a reminder, Google caved to Chinese censorship and opposes net neutrality. : technology .::. Size~: 39.83 KB | Sep 06 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <schestowitz> Hi | Sep 06 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2010/09/06/texas-attorney-general-for-microsoft/ | Sep 06 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Microsoft Hypocrisy: Google Accuses Microsoft of Giving Google Legal Trouble Over Search Impartiality and Privacy | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.41 KB | Sep 06 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:58] <yano_t> yeah eric goldman wrote something insightful about it recently: | Sep 06 21:25 |
| schestowitz | [20:59] <yano_t> http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2010/09/texas_ag_invest.htm | Sep 06 21:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Technology & Marketing Law Blog: Texas AG Investigating Google Search, and I Have Questions. The Biggest: Are You Kidding Me??? .::. Size~: 24.54 KB | Sep 06 21:25 |
| schestowitz | [20:59] <yano_t> sorry if i'm typing too slow, i just installed irssi on ubuntu and i'm just getting used to it | Sep 06 21:25 |
| schestowitz | [20:59] <schestowitz> "Is Microsoft Behind This Investigation? Microsoft has all but admitted that it is harassing Google on the antitrust front. Microsoft also has some indirect ties to Foundem, myTriggers and TradeComet. See this article for more on the Microsoft/Google chess match. " | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [20:59] <schestowitz> Microsoft admitted this in Europe | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:00] <schestowitz> They're basicallty busted already | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:00] <schestowitz> The journos just need to catch up a bit | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:00] <schestowitz> Giving them pointers may help | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:00] <schestowitz> Groklaw has done the most on it | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:05] <yano_t> MSFT basically send it's lawyers to sell this google anti trust thing to AGs facing re-election | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:15] <schestowitz> It'll blow back on him like ACTA | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <yano_t> is the CW ad still playing in times square? | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <schestowitz> Don't know | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <yano_t> for how long did it play? the whole weekend? | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <yano_t> oh | Sep 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <schestowitz> But someone funnels money to give them exposure | Sep 06 21:35 |
| schestowitz | [21:19] <schestowitz> VIdeo production,air time, etc. | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <schestowitz> Microsoft->Edelman/Grassroots ENterprise->CW | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <schestowitz> Normal routine | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <yano_t> I wonder why no one wonder where does a 'non profit' get that sort of money | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <schestowitz> They pretent to take donations | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <schestowitz> Which, as I wrote the other day, should get those SOBs sued | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:20] <schestowitz> They are an AstroTurfer taking money from the people whom they hurt | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:21] <schestowitz> To keep up appearances | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:21] <yano_t> they say that they are funded by the rose foundation | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:22] <schestowitz> Yes | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:22] <schestowitz> I wrote about it | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:22] <schestowitz> Follow Rose... | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:22] <schestowitz> And see who runs their site too | Sep 06 21:36 |
| schestowitz | [21:23] <yano_t> form the wired thret level blog: | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:23] <yano_t> "s not the first anti-Google antic from the group, which is largely funded by legal fees, the Rose Foundation, Streisand Foundation, Tides Foundation and others | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:24] <yano_t> "The group says they’ve paid to have a version of the video shown 36 times per day on a jumbotron in Times Square | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:27] <yano_t> btw what irc client are u using? | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:27] <schestowitz> konversation | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:28] <yano_t> can one install kde stuff on gnome? | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <schestowitz> yes | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:34] <yano_t> reading your post, and noticing at the end the stuff about the bbc and in particular Maggie Shills | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:34] <yano_t> I had a hunsh about her actually | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:35] <yano_t> *hunch | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:36] <schestowitz> She had history | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:36] <schestowitz> I wrote a lot about her... http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+Maggie | Sep 06 21:39 |
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| schestowitz |  | Sep 06 21:39 |
| schestowitz | [21:38] <yano_t> Nick Bilton from the nyt blog keeps echoing the CW stuff as well: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/google-to-simplify-its-privacy-policies/ | Sep 06 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | <yano_t> all these new papers with their recent revelations about online privacy (the wsj acted like it never heard of browser cookies before) i think they wanted to make google look bad | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <yano_t> google is taking their ad money | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <yano_t> and the nyt want to erect a paywall | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <schestowitz> WSJ =Murdoch | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:44] <yano_t> yup | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> Microsoft ally vs Google | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <yano_t> and the nyt own ask.com | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> I did about 15 posts about it | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:45] <schestowitz> http://www.google.com/search?q=site:techrights.org+murdoch&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Sep 06 21:48 |
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| schestowitz |  | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:47] <yano_t> does google have allies in the aspect as MSFT here? | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:47] <schestowitz> ECIS | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | [21:48] <schestowitz> That too is doubtful | Sep 06 21:48 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/05/tony-blair-memoirs-facebook-group | Sep 06 21:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Looking for Tony Blair's memoir? Try the crime section | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 218 KB | Sep 06 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence | Sep 06 22:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals | Society | The Observer .::. Size~: 210 KB | Sep 06 22:01 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/05/iraq-war-inquiry-iraq | Sep 06 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Iraq WMD dossier was 'reviewed' to match Labour spin, memo reveals | UK news | The Observer .::. Size~: 69.29 KB | Sep 06 22:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:00] <yano_t_> huffingtonpost keeps higlighting every negative google story | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:01] <yano_t_> ever since everyone went crazy over the net neutrality agreement | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <yano_t_> why no one is talking about the microsoft talks with at&t | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:09] <schestowitz> Huff&Puff is close to Microsoft | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:10] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2010/03/15/huffington-causecast-and-gates/ | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 06 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Huffington Post, Technologizer, and Other Web Sites in Bills Pocket | Techrights .::. Size~: 115.08 KB | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:18] <yano_t_> this is depressing, they want to hurt the google brand and they have all they connections, in media and politics to succeed | Sep 06 22:23 |
| schestowitz | [22:22] <yano_t_> i gotta run, it was nice talking to you. | Sep 06 22:23 |
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