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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/50609052#notice-51031343 "You're a major league Internet Freedom Fighter, Roy ... you've even in my Software Freedom Day post ... http://ur1.ca/1npyn" | Sep 18 02:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://dailybail.com/home/ron-paul-the-fed-works-in-collusion-with-goldman-sachs-msnbc.html | Sep 18 03:43 |
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| schestowitz | RMS: "Donate to Jill Stein for Governor of Massachusetts. " http://www.jillstein.org/contribute | Sep 18 03:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt138104.html? | Sep 18 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Microsoft is trying to make Linux illegal again - Computers, Math, Science, and Technology .::. Size~: 56.35 KB | Sep 18 08:43 |
| oiaohm | MS is gettign despertate. schestowitz | Sep 18 09:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/regulation/41913-stallman-calls-for-file-sharing-to-be-legalised | Sep 18 10:39 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: how much per std set do you think they get, oiaohm? | Sep 18 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Like a Samsung phone say... | Sep 18 10:40 |
| oiaohm | I would have to start digging schestowitz | Sep 18 10:44 |
| oiaohm | I know that fat can put you back about a dollar per device. | Sep 18 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Really paying the patents is less than paying for MS product. schestowitz | Sep 18 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Remember that patents are a two way arguement. | Sep 18 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Ie if I have to pay MS 1 dollar for fat. I might have a patent that MS has to pay me so It costs me nothing. | Sep 18 10:46 |
| schestowitz | See, I reckon the payments are symbolic | Sep 18 10:46 |
| oiaohm | Samsung is most likely not paying much to MS. | Sep 18 10:46 |
| schestowitz | Microoft does not detail these in its filingsE | Sep 18 10:46 |
| schestowitz | Except the patent basket | Sep 18 10:46 |
| oiaohm | Samsung holds lot of patents they could hit MS with. | Sep 18 10:46 |
| schestowitz | But it may pay them for the perception of Linux=non-free | Sep 18 10:47 |
| schestowitz | Some have said that Amazon pays nothing, either | Sep 18 10:47 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft wants to put it in the press release that Kindle and RHEL violate Microsoft patents | Sep 18 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Amazon has enough former-Softies in it to play along with this illusion | Sep 18 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | Amazon sells MS product. | Sep 18 10:56 |
| oiaohm | Question is how much discount on that product does Amazon get. schestowitz | Sep 18 10:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah... | Sep 18 10:57 |
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| oiaohm | Really trying to make Linux non free is the last card in the MS deck. schestowitz | Sep 18 11:16 |
| oiaohm | In the past is was Linux could not do X feature or Y feature. | Sep 18 11:17 |
| schestowitz | "What Parts Of X.Org Should Be Killed With Fire?" | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | >> Phoronix | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Do you not find his recent headlines more aggressive than usual? | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | [11:16] <oiaohm> Really trying to make Linux non free is the last card in the MS deck. schestowitz | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Agreed | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | In 2005 or 2006 I read about this in LinxuDevices.com | Sep 18 11:52 |
| schestowitz | basically, SteveB saying something like it's an obligation to shareholders to use the patents | Sep 18 11:53 |
| schestowitz | At some stage | Sep 18 11:53 |
| schestowitz | A year later it came, cause embedded devs moved to Linux a lot | Sep 18 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Then came phones... | Sep 18 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Techrights will stay focused on swpats | Sep 18 11:53 |
| schestowitz | The growth in backlash against them shows we win over the awareness campaign, the lawyer meanwhile get more irate | Sep 18 11:54 |
| schestowitz | "Luc Calls For A Dead Linux Desktop If Keith Gets His Way" | Sep 18 11:54 |
| schestowitz | Also phoronix | Sep 18 11:54 |
| schestowitz | TuxMachines rewrote that as "dead desktop Linux" or something like this when Susan grouped 2 items | Sep 18 11:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/16/difference-amoled-slcd-screens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Sep 18 11:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/17/ea-ready-android-love/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidguyscom+%28AndroidGuys%29 | Sep 18 12:03 |
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| oiaohm | Luc call is fear. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Keith plan is highly valid. Nvidia is about the last truly closed source driver left in the open source stack with any long term plans of existance. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Also something that is over looked the unification provides a path for wayland. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:13 |
| oiaohm | A true nightmare for MS. Linux giving up it Unix roots of user interfaces and coming after it with something completely modern. | Sep 18 12:13 |
| oiaohm | So I expect Luc and others to try to stop Keiths plan. | Sep 18 12:14 |
| schestowitz | "@rcweir to what extent does Google actively support ODF? They seem to replace standards with #FogComputing http://stuff.techwhack.com/9685-google-docs-viewer-3" | Sep 18 12:16 |
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| schestowitz | Does Keith work for Red Hat or Intel now? | Sep 18 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Last time I looked Keith is still at intel | Sep 18 12:17 |
| oiaohm | But he does float between both companies a lot. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:17 |
| schestowitz | re diaspora: "@schestowitz actually I think the devs might have been over their heads, so releasing now was probably best. hopefully someone can fix it" http://twitter.com/nixternal/status/24816101260 | Sep 18 12:19 |
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| oiaohm | All open source alphas are scarry why did anyone expect disapora to be any different. | Sep 18 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Google support for ODF is quite interesting. | Sep 18 12:20 |
| schestowitz | me; "yes, but I worry that some folks like @bkuhn spend a lot of time slamming it, even though their concerns are valid" | Sep 18 12:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it is | Sep 18 12:20 |
| schestowitz | ODF at GOogle... | Sep 18 12:20 |
| schestowitz | If someone uses that at all rather than share URLs | Sep 18 12:20 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ubuntumongol/status/24817504751 | Sep 18 12:21 |
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| schestowitz | "Are all people working @ m$ evil? Or is just the corporation consisting of all people working at m$ so evil?" http://twitter.com/andriusbentkus/status/24810548179 | Sep 18 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | The managers run the company, the rest follow orders. People should be held accountable for their actions. | Sep 18 12:22 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: re diaspora, the FSF is being a tad rude | Sep 18 12:23 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/arrocharGeek/status/24785948701 "RT @schestowitz: RT @thistleweb I don't get the hate [...] sounds like jealousy > agreed! > I openly admit my jealousy&SUPPORT! #diaspora" | Sep 18 12:23 |
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| oiaohm | Remember Google was one of early supportters of ODF. | Sep 18 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Including paying to ship staroffice to Sun to give Sun more funds. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:25 |
| oiaohm | As I say interesting. schestowitz | Sep 18 12:26 |
| oiaohm | Support has weaked a little over time. | Sep 18 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Byoung Lee... http://www.mindtouch.com/company/news_and_events/press_releases/2010-09-10 | Sep 18 12:49 |
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| schestowitz | No Microsoft background for a change | Sep 18 12:49 |
| schestowitz | http://wiki.openindiana.org:8080/display/oi/Press+Release | Sep 18 12:59 |
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| schestowitz | Some major OpenSolaris was down earlier BTW... | Sep 18 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Seemed embarrassing | Sep 18 12:59 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/TRVhn.jpg | Sep 18 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | The source of it is funny... http://www.motifake.com/ | Sep 18 14:43 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://b1ff.org/2010/08/21/3914/we-have-always-been-at-nonpeace-with-iran/ | Sep 18 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: We have always been at nonpeace with Iran .::. Size~: 12.45 KB | Sep 18 18:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: also, this touches on that whole slide from "passive observer of consensus" to "critic" and beyond: http://salon.com/a/syBIfAA | Sep 18 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Obama's view of liberal criticisms - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 88.75 KB | Sep 18 18:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | if you're one of those people dissatisfied with large parts of the Obama presidency, that's only because you have something wrong with the way you think (you need drug testing/you "congenitally see the glass as half empty"), and because you are saddled with extremely unrealistic, child-like expectations (you're angry that the Pentagon hasn't closed yet/bitter that Obama "hasn't yet | Sep 18 18:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | brought about world peace: 'I thought that was going to happen quicker' (Laughter.)"). In other words, you're just a petulant, unreasonable, unrealistic, fringe child who doesn't appreciate the greatness and generosity he's given you (h/t Jane Hamsher). Contrary to what many of you thought, it's these flaws within yourself that cause you to be dissatisfied with the administration, not | Sep 18 18:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | because of any of this: | Sep 18 18:57 |
| schestowitz | "war with Eurasia" | Sep 18 18:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | see, nonpeace is ... what exactly. | Sep 18 18:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | we can't exactly say Iran is building this reactor for "war", because war is the province of the USA | Sep 18 18:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's a bit hard to sell the idea of iran actually making an aggressive invasion | Sep 18 18:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's too self evidently ridiculous | Sep 18 18:58 |
| schestowitz | non peace is to war with "defence" it to expansionism | Sep 18 18:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | so instead we'll talk about nonpeace | Sep 18 18:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | which is in some grey area between "doing nothing" and "all out war (like the USA and Israel shall be permitted)" | Sep 18 18:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | we shall never see a definition for "non peace" yet it can be freely used in anti-Iran rhetoric by NYT etc | Sep 18 18:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | a definition would cause problems | Sep 18 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Re: Are there any successful Linux migrations out there? | Sep 18 18:59 |
| schestowitz | > Then post them here ... | Sep 18 18:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 18 18:59 |
| schestowitz | > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/09/18/0239243/Swiss-Canton-Abandons-Linux-Migration | Sep 18 18:59 |
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| FurnaceBoy | oh. btw, Microsoft is astroturfing PLanet Apache | Sep 18 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/24860025983 "I believe Google Docs ODF support is via 3rd party code from Aspose. Both have attended ODF Plugfests." | Sep 18 19:00 |
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| FurnaceBoy | look @ this guy they syndicate: http://tedhusted.blogspot.com/ | Sep 18 19:01 |
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| FurnaceBoy | note his post is #2 on http://planet.apache.org/committers/ | Sep 18 19:01 |
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| FurnaceBoy | [OBAMA] wants you to know that if you criticize him -- or even question what he's done ("well, I don't know about this particular derivatives rule, I'm not sure that I'm satisfied with that") -- it's your fault: for being some sort of naive, fringe-leftist idiot who thought he would eliminate the Pentagon and bring about world peace in 18 months, and/or because you simply don't | Sep 18 19:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | sufficiently appreciate everything he's done for you because you're congenitally dissatisfied | Sep 18 19:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | "naive, fringe-leftist idiot" | Sep 18 19:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | so, in his speeches, Obama is engaging in exactly the process we talk about | Sep 18 19:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | marginalising dissent | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | invalidating it | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' The Washington Post's Stephen Stromberg heard Obama's message loud and clear -- and, as is typical for Beltway journalists, can barely contain his glee when the "left" is attacked and mocked ' | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | and it's not just right wing nutjobs who hear the message | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | centrists hear it too, it's meant for them | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | "don't stray" | Sep 18 19:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | Harper does exactly the same, it was the whole point of the g20 "security strategy" | Sep 18 19:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | and see how quickly that it turns into mocking of "the left" | Sep 18 19:05 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Sep 18 19:05 | |
| FurnaceBoy | the President derides their concerns as nothing but the by-product of congenital grievances and insufficient gratitude -- maybe he can even throw in a couple strawmen: "these union workers won't be satisfied until I've seized the means of production and abolished capitalism" | Sep 18 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | same rhetoric is used against F/OSS | Sep 18 19:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | "communists... who would have us all live in a new Soviet" | Sep 18 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | thankyou, Obama! | Sep 18 19:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's why I , uh, voted for ya | Sep 18 19:07 |
| schestowitz | [19:04] <FurnaceBoy> invalidating it | Sep 18 19:08 |
| schestowitz | They managed to flag some opposition as ilamophobes recently | Sep 18 19:09 |
| schestowitz | THe anti-Obama approach (after his words were twisted)=twisted | Sep 18 19:09 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the Twist about Hussein Obama being 'Muslim' 'Marxist' 'Kenyan' | Sep 18 19:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | hehe | Sep 18 19:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://b1ff.org/2010/08/10/3901/theory-is-the-last-refuge-of-scoundrels/ | Sep 18 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Theory is the last refuge of scoundrels .::. Size~: 12.7 KB | Sep 18 19:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | 'Officers who act on guidance from the Department of Justice???or acted on such guidance previously???should not be investigated, let alone punished. This is what fairness and wisdom require' -- Leon Panetta | Sep 18 19:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | that guy seems to specialise in deconstructing the NYT | Sep 18 19:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | (David Brooks) ' I remember President Obama???s vow to move us beyond the stale old debates' -- like those over pre-emptive war, torture, and so on | Sep 18 19:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | Don't look backward! | Sep 18 19:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh gawd, see even pre-emptive is a euphemism i accidentally use. | Sep 18 19:24 |
| *FurnaceBoy bows to Orwell's ghost | Sep 18 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | Naa... | Sep 18 19:29 |
| schestowitz | He just expressed many thoughts from experience | Sep 18 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Well publicised | Sep 18 19:29 |
| schestowitz | I actually wonder how many visions of a similar kind predate it and are in common folklore too | Sep 18 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://b1ff.org/2010/07/06/3821/from-the-annals-of-innovation/ | Sep 18 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: From the annals of innovation .::. Size~: 12.32 KB | Sep 18 19:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Kafka | Sep 18 19:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | Zamyatin | Sep 18 19:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | "We" | Sep 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Mary Jo Fluffy? | Sep 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: hold on.... | Sep 18 19:49 |
| schestowitz | thanks for apache headsup | Sep 18 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Posting about it atm | Sep 18 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | ya | Sep 18 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | yw | Sep 18 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://b1ff.org/2009/11/24/3541/queen-bishops-pawns/ | Sep 18 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Queen, bishops, pawns .::. Size~: 11.28 KB | Sep 18 20:13 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: do you know this man? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othmar_Schimkowitz | Sep 18 22:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Othmar Schimkowitz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 31.35 KB | Sep 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | nope | Sep 18 22:02 |
| MinceR | i'll check anyway | Sep 18 22:02 |
| MinceR | no, i don't kno w about him | Sep 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | I searched wikipedia for my name it this came up | Sep 18 22:06 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=schestowitz | Sep 18 22:07 |
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