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| FurnaceBoy | she's a real person with real concerns | Sep 23 00:05 |
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| FurnaceBoy | the interaction is very revealing | Sep 23 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | “Nope,” wrote Jobs. “We have over 300 million users and we can’t respond to their requests unless they involve some kind of problem. Sorry.” | Sep 23 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's bullshit arrogance | Sep 23 00:06 |
| schestowitz | that's jobs | Sep 23 00:26 |
| schestowitz | you used to defend Macs/Apple | Sep 23 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I'd take RMS over Jobs | Sep 23 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | i still defend them from silliness, but i've never really liked jobs | Sep 23 00:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | but, i don't entirely blame him, i thikn the problem stems from apple being a public co | Sep 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz | He has good PR | Sep 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Jeans and all | Sep 23 00:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | sort of. | Sep 23 00:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's old now | Sep 23 00:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | he used to go barefoot, like stallman | Sep 23 00:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's a curious product of the 20th C | Sep 23 00:35 |
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| oiaohm | I guess you would be in bed. schestowitz. the pdf modifier at gnome you recnetly included in the list is .net | Sep 23 03:04 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Sep 23 05:27 |
| schestowitz | I responded to this earlier | Sep 23 05:27 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <oiaohm> I am sorry to say schestowitz you have been caught out. pdfmod is another mono application. | Sep 23 05:27 |
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| oiaohm | I lost link. | Sep 23 05:27 |
| schestowitz | [23:24] <schestowitz> ouch | Sep 23 05:27 |
| schestowitz | [23:25] <schestowitz> thanks for the warning | Sep 23 05:27 |
| oiaohm | Really I should not try irc and 5 downloads side by side. | Sep 23 05:28 |
| oiaohm | modem kinda not like it. | Sep 23 05:28 |
| oiaohm | http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2010/09/flex-builder-for-linux-project-ending.html Wonder why | Sep 23 05:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Flex Builder for Linux project ending « The Official Flex Team Blog .::. Size~: 10.55 KB | Sep 23 05:49 |
| schestowitz | No usage... binary crap | Sep 23 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Remember lot of web developers use Linux | Sep 23 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Is it the sign of the end. | Sep 23 05:56 |
| schestowitz | for who? | Sep 23 05:56 |
| schestowitz | adobe maybe | Sep 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | html 5 | Sep 23 05:57 |
| schestowitz | gn | Sep 23 05:57 |
| oiaohm | http://github.com/zodttd/vlc4iphone Yep vlc iphone souce code open. schestowitz | Sep 23 06:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: zodttd's vlc4iphone at master - GitHub .::. Size~: 33.05 KB | Sep 23 06:01 |
| oiaohm | So a GPL program can get on a iphone. | Sep 23 06:01 |
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| MinceR | of course crApple can ignore their own terms when they feel like it | Sep 23 07:01 |
| MinceR | or when they just don't care | Sep 23 07:01 |
| MinceR | it might still be illegal. | Sep 23 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Its made it past formual appoval. MinceR | Sep 23 07:10 |
| oiaohm | Even with the status of GPL known. | Sep 23 07:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you know as well as i that crApple's approval is totally random | Sep 23 07:12 |
| MinceR | they ignore their own rules and it's typical practice to retry approval of something multiple times to get it through. | Sep 23 07:12 |
| MinceR | and even if they do approve it, it might still end up being a GPL violation | Sep 23 07:13 |
| oiaohm | Note the code is self contained. No information from inside the SDK is included. | Sep 23 07:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes way its done is legal. MinceR | Sep 23 07:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/51914777 "Short: "We recognize the importance of Linux yet after studying the market we direct future development toward Windows and Mac"" | Sep 23 10:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Gerard Braad (吉拉德) (gbraad)'s status on Thursday, 23-Sep-10 05:07:42 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.46 KB | Sep 23 10:23 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy, | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > I have found interesting link where I can see interesting table: | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm | Sep 23 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Desktop Boards — Supported operating systems .::. Size~: 130.68 KB | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > This table is making me thinking that people will prefer more Windows in | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > place of Linux. | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Re: Interesting link about Linux support | Sep 23 10:24 |
| schestowitz | Hi oiaohm | Sep 23 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Interesting | Sep 23 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Apple maybe bent backwards a bit | Sep 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | "Just showing inconsistencies in your blahblah. May be we can figure out what drives your attacks on FOSS contributors" http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/25288015450 | Sep 23 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Duncan Mac-Vicar P.: @schestowitz Just showing ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KB | Sep 23 10:57 |
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| oiaohm | been read that table again. | Sep 23 11:04 |
| oiaohm | You will notice more boards support Linux than Windows 7 | Sep 23 11:04 |
| oiaohm | And there is a full ban using all those boards for 2003 and 2008 server. schestowitz | Sep 23 11:04 |
| oiaohm | So Linux server side runs on more boards than MS. | Sep 23 11:04 |
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| oiaohm | Basically that table is a great example in artifical segmentation schestowitz | Sep 23 11:06 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: I wrote a matlab program | Sep 23 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Also that table is highly miss leading as well schestowitz. It only lists Linux drivers that are on the intel site that are to be adding third party to distributions to make them work. | Sep 23 11:08 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/2010/09/23/sintel-release-expected-thursday-september-30th/ Pen a date schestowitz | Sep 23 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Sintel Release Expected Thursday, September 30th | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 29.49 KB | Sep 23 11:10 |
| schestowitz | [11:04] <oiaohm> So Linux server side runs on more boards than MS. | Sep 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | YEah, I wondered about that | Sep 23 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Still, it makes Linux look incapable | Sep 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: which one? | Sep 23 11:12 |
| oiaohm | Only to those who don't fully read. | Sep 23 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Like the one who mailed me, I guess... | Sep 23 11:12 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: be amazed: https://www.privatepaste.com/922330f5d4/fdgfsdg8fdgfd9769FHSDJgd-iisdga | Sep 23 11:13 |
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| oiaohm | There are no plans for making drivers available for this operating system. << Notice this at top. After intel has been talking about 2003 and 2008 | Sep 23 11:13 |
| oiaohm | They don't class them as independant OS's. | Sep 23 11:13 |
| oiaohm | Also read the Linux notice at the end after the table. schestowitz | Sep 23 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Intel clearly warns every one that the Linux information is what you call untrustable and most likely incorrect. | Sep 23 11:16 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25033469233 "@mgeist ECIS advocates interoperability only selectively. Its largest members are anything but pro-interoperability in their core business." | Sep 23 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft FLorian | Sep 23 11:16 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/mgeist/statuses/25033114893 "Euro Comm for Interoperable Systems includes IBM, Nokia, Oracle, Opera, & Red Hat: expresses concern w/ACTA http://bit.ly/9mUDpK | Sep 23 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | Quadrescence: nice | Sep 23 11:17 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: thanks I think it's the best code I've ever written | Sep 23 11:18 |
| oiaohm | http://uk.shopping.com/Intel-Intel-Desktop-Board-D5400xs/reviews Note this is the first board on that table that intel says does not work schestowitz | Sep 23 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Intel D5400XS Reviews at Shopping.com UK .::. Size~: 87.88 KB | Sep 23 11:24 |
| oiaohm | The thing basically works out box with any modern Linux kernel. | Sep 23 11:24 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I've just spoken about this with an Intel chip designer | Sep 23 13:53 |
| schestowitz | The CPU+GPU people | Sep 23 13:53 |
| schestowitz | But I didn't have the page at hand | Sep 23 13:53 |
| schestowitz | I'm feeling so bloated. I think I ate enough for the whole day just now... | Sep 23 15:11 |
| *schestowitz sleepy | Sep 23 15:11 | |
| schestowitz | THis is a funny stunt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3CJeooDCWc | Sep 23 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | They try to deliver boys to the pope | Sep 23 15:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: really? | Sep 23 15:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: schestowitz might not know you're being sarcastic | Sep 23 15:30 |
| Quadrescence | FurnaceBoy: yes sir | Sep 23 15:30 |
| Quadrescence | im not, it is well commented | Sep 23 15:30 |
| Quadrescence | and that really was my first matlab | Sep 23 15:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: it might be the best *commented* code you've ever written | Sep 23 15:31 |
| schestowitz | THis response from the officer/inspector is decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9zBq2zCaYw | Sep 23 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: :-) | Sep 23 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Comments for interpreted code | Sep 23 15:32 |
| schestowitz | no .exe | Sep 23 15:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | i like languages that use % as comment character. Erlang, PostScript, hm what others | Sep 23 15:33 |
| Quadrescence | TeX | Sep 23 15:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | oyah | Sep 23 15:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIg-pZ4OyidY&session_token=kVUphNEb7yLopv5TuOf2R4kptEt8MTI4NTMzODcwOA%3D%3D | Sep 23 15:34 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://rww.to/9iEyyz | Sep 23 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www1.albawaba.com/behind-news/new-dna-tests-hitler-had-jewish-and-north-african-ancestors | Sep 23 16:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: New DNA tests: Hitler had Jewish and north African ancestors | Al Bawaba .::. Size~: 41.76 KB | Sep 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Just showed up in an article about Novell | Sep 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Facebook PR | Sep 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Many CEOs do stuff like that | Sep 23 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | IIRC Oracle's gave some to hospitals | Sep 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/51562540#notice-51994970 "Lots of accessibility problems with plenty of modern js-heavy webapps too though :\ Though, at least there is FireVox for those" | Sep 23 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | Firefox just messed up memory manages on a PCLOS machine I set up | Sep 23 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Needed to restart it to fix... | Sep 23 17:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right | Sep 23 17:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hence 1st word of headline | Sep 23 17:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | Sep 23 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | yup | Sep 23 17:57 |
| schestowitz | facebook=charity | Sep 23 17:57 |
| schestowitz | return a favour by using it now. Giddy up... | Sep 23 17:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh yeah | Sep 23 18:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | his lecture | Sep 23 18:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | on FREE | Sep 23 18:07 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Sep 23 18:07 | |
| FurnaceBoy | guy's worth est $5 bln | Sep 23 18:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | another horse thief | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | reputation laundering | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | get in early | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | he learned gates' lesson | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | don't wait till you're 50 to start philanthropy-wiping | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | pretty soon we'll hear about Blair's charities | Sep 23 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | his wife already mopping up that sector | Sep 23 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz | return a favour by using it now. | Sep 23 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | touché | Sep 23 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | "protect a great philanthropist" | Sep 23 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Zuck needs you!" | Sep 23 18:09 |
| MinceR | Zuck is seeking more "dumb fucks"? | Sep 23 18:17 |
| MinceR | (his term) | Sep 23 18:17 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Sep 23 18:21 |
| schestowitz | He's on Facebook too | Sep 23 18:21 |
| schestowitz | dumb fuck^TM.. | Sep 23 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Should we call the site DumbFucksBook? | Sep 23 18:22 |
| MinceR | he wants you too to be Zuckered™ | Sep 23 18:22 |
| MinceR | it sure Zucks™ to be in that book | Sep 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Or is insulting the converted counter productive? :-) I kid anwyay.. | Sep 23 18:23 |
| MinceR | we could, though i usually call it fecesbook | Sep 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Jonathan Zuck? | Sep 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they got trained in the same pen :-) | Sep 23 18:23 |
| schestowitz | >>> http://identi.ca/conversation/51562540#notice-51994970 "Lots of accessibility problems with plenty of modern js-heavy webapps too though :\ Though, at least there is FireVox for those" | Sep 23 18:40 |
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| schestowitz | The Web will hopefully come out of Adobe Trash dark era | Sep 23 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/statuses/25319761670 "what she says is simply not true, openSUSE does not have LVM as default and you need to explicitly enable it" | Sep 23 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Duncan Mac-Vicar P.: @schestowitz what she says ... .::. Size~: 9.41 KB | Sep 23 18:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: whaaaa where did Fuck call ppl dumb zucks? | Sep 23 18:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: what a lovely bunch of CEOs we have .. Schmidt, Zuck, Jobs, Ballz, ... | Sep 23 18:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | Larry | Sep 23 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I think IM | Sep 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | referring to people who sued him | Sep 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I THINK | Sep 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | they trusted him not to look into their account for dirt | Sep 23 19:15 |
| schestowitz | But see the source | Sep 23 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure I got the facts right here, didn't recheck, didn't post about the saga | Sep 23 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Zuck: "damn, I DIDN"T BLOODY SAY dumb FUCKS!!" | Sep 23 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I said "dan funks" | Sep 23 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Press: 'awwwwwwwwwwwwww.........." | Sep 23 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer: I didn't throw a chjair | Sep 23 19:17 |
| schestowitz | He said it was an "exaggeration" of what had hapened | Sep 23 19:18 |
| schestowitz | *ppened | Sep 23 19:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | ... | Sep 23 19:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh well i think i'll juts call him Fuckerberg from now on | Sep 23 19:21 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/14/facebook_trust_dumb/ | Sep 23 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Facebook founder called trusting users dumb f*cks • The Register .::. Size~: 25.42 KB | Sep 23 19:24 |
| MinceR | moar sources >> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zuckerberg+im+dumb+fucks | Sep 23 19:24 |
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| MinceR | (the second link needs javascript) | Sep 23 19:24 |
| *FurnaceBoy haz js | Sep 23 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | so what does it say? | Sep 23 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Was i close? | Sep 23 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | "is it dot communism? :-)" http://identi.ca/conversation/51584836#notice-52018035 | Sep 23 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jul-oct.html#21%20September%202010%20%28Shiva%20Nazar%20Ahari%20goes%20to%20jail%29 | Sep 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "An Iranian human rights activist faces possible execution for "war against god". Apparently the god they worship is at war with humanity." | Sep 23 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Sep 23 19:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | +1 | Sep 23 19:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 23 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | it'd be funny if it weren't so fucking tragic | Sep 23 19:45 |
| MinceR | i should probably learn to laugh at things that are both funny and tragic | Sep 23 19:45 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: now that Huff seems to be in Bill's pocket we have a new name for it | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | And I stock with it | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | We need one for the guardia | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's funded by Gates now | Sep 23 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | aaargh | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | So I was thinking gateskeeper/gatesguardian | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you didn't know? | Sep 23 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | guarding the gates | Sep 23 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | gateskeeper is the internal name of his PR teach | Sep 23 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | and so the world winds down | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | They guard his image | Sep 23 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | grey goo | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Wait, I'll make your blood boil... | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/09/21/purchasing-main-events-for-pr/ | Sep 23 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Gates Foundation Purchases Famous Events, Newspapers to Brainwash the Public | Techrights .::. Size~: 140.56 KB | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | He bought more of TED | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | And guess who keynotes? | Sep 23 19:48 |
| schestowitz | MELINDA! | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | And he bought the Guardian | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | And then they published a snazzy profile of MELINDA | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Corrupted media | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | ugh | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | bought | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Read on | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | see, that's how this works | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | they've hacked the system | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | this is the pattern for gates' career | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | They make Kissinger look like peanuts | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | bush/rove/cheney also hacked the system | Sep 23 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Sep 23 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | kissinger's just an employee, like murdoch | Sep 23 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | janitors | Sep 23 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this is bad | Sep 23 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | very very bad | Sep 23 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | there are supposed to be safety catches | Sep 23 19:50 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Sep 23 19:50 | |
| FurnaceBoy | if they own the guardian then they own UK political process now | Sep 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Gurdian is dead in some sense | Sep 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | For some areas of coverage | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | absolutely | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | dead like Gulf of Mexico | Sep 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | GatesPlume | Sep 23 19:51 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | and they own the bbc | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | that was shocking enough | Sep 23 19:51 |
| MinceR | gate$-PR-Guardian | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | that means they'll poison the subsiciaries, ABC, CBC, etc | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | d* | Sep 23 19:51 |
| MinceR | don't forget nbc | Sep 23 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | is that related to BBC? | Sep 23 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i mean the direct colonial offshoots | Sep 23 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | ABC = Australian Broadcasting Corporation | Sep 23 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | CBC = Canadian Broadcasting Corporation | Sep 23 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's 60 million people | Sep 23 19:53 |
| MinceR | nope, nbc is yet another company | Sep 23 19:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Sep 23 19:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | the USA situation is different, but murdoch already owns it | Sep 23 19:53 |
| MinceR | m$'s and nbc universal's joint venture is called m$nbc | Sep 23 19:53 |
| MinceR | (and GE owns NBC universal) | Sep 23 19:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | and what he doesn't own, right wing crazies ilke clearchannel own | Sep 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: spread the word if you can | Sep 23 19:54 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Sep 23 19:54 | |
| schestowitz | The Guardian deserves shame for it | Sep 23 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I dented this a bit, to get the word going | Sep 23 19:54 |
| schestowitz | The publication deserve to lose people's trust in it | Sep 23 19:54 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes, but UK had good publications | Sep 23 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I sent RMS a long message cause he relied on The Guardian | Sep 23 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Now the last 'independent' publications get no income, so they turn to the owners of the US for bias to sell | Sep 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Greeen Revolution and stuff | Sep 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I.e. Monsanto | Sep 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Colonising Africa... by the US | Sep 23 19:56 |
| schestowitz | With Gates investing his cash in it | Sep 23 19:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | :( | Sep 23 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | I've already noticed some people writing "Huff&Puff" | Sep 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | It's catching on like "Vista 7", I hope | Sep 23 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Sep 23 19:59 |
| MinceR | ^_^ | Sep 23 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Some people type "Vista7" | Sep 23 20:00 |
| *MinceR types Vista7 or vista7 | Sep 23 20:00 | |
| *FurnaceBoy types excrement | Sep 23 20:00 | |
| MinceR | not specific enough ;) | Sep 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/20/oecd-us-double-dip-recession | Sep 23 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: OECD predicts America will escape double-dip recession | Business | The Guardian .::. Size~: 197.36 KB | Sep 23 20:00 |
| schestowitz | RMS thanked me for the warning, but he still reads Gates'Guardian | Sep 23 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/21/protests-egypt-gamal-mubarak-succession | Sep 23 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Protests in Egypt against Gamal Mubarak succession plans | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 75.22 KB | Sep 23 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: how far does RMS accept some of our premises here? does he avoid talking about controversial things like reputation laundering, female spokesliars, etc | Sep 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/sep/20/tarp-bailout-banks-wall-street | Sep 23 20:06 |
| schestowitz | "Two years ago, the top honchos at the Fed, Treasury and the Wall Street banks were running around like Chicken Little warning that the world was about to end. This fear-mongering, together with a big assist from the elite media (thatis, NPR, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, etc), earned the banks their $700bn Troubled Asset Relief Programme (Tarp) blank cheque bailout. This money, along with even more valuable | Sep 23 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wall Street's greatest heist: the Tarp | Dean Baker | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 205.29 KB | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | loans and loan guarantees from the Fed and FDIC, enabled them to survive the crisis they had created. As a result, the big banks are bigger and more profitable than ever. " | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I think so | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | They tried to assassinate his character again last year | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | usually it's the Microsofties | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | This time it was one of them preteding to be a FOSS guy | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | ACCESS troll | Sep 23 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Tried to make RMS look like a womaniser | Sep 23 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | interesting. | Sep 23 20:08 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 23 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's really weird to think of rms being radicalised | Sep 23 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | by these fucks | Sep 23 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | But he's calm about it | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise it feeds those who provoke him | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | They try to evoke a self-fulfilling insult | Sep 23 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Like when you call someone a radical until s/he gets angry and acts a bit like one | Sep 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Lawyers famously use this trick in court | Sep 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Allegedly, Microsoft once sued it vs Judge Jackson | Sep 23 20:10 |
| schestowitz | We've always been at war with EurMomma! | Sep 23 20:17 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://twitter.com/SellItHereUSA/status/25332636672 | Sep 23 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / SellItHereUSA: RT @schestowitz :"If they ... .::. Size~: 9.51 KB | Sep 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RedScareBot/status/25330265021 | Sep 23 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Robot J. McCarthy: red-herring RT @schestowit ... .::. Size~: 12.58 KB | Sep 23 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/gappme/status/25329956586 | Sep 23 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / poop: RT @schestowitz: Isn't it ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KB | Sep 23 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Nice to see the words spreading. Weird... someone added me to "@tedtheo/silverlight" | Sep 23 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | i have NEVER looked at lists I'm on, and i don't plan to. | Sep 23 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | a follower of mine fat-fingered his list citation for me, tweeting it | Sep 23 20:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | his keywords | Sep 23 20:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | was pretty revealing/mildly insulting | Sep 23 20:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | i know that a good number of lists i'm on will be enemy intelligence gathering | Sep 23 20:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | piles of rightwing nutjobs | Sep 23 20:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | they do that | Sep 23 20:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | i can't be bothered scanning their tripe, what use could it have? | Sep 23 20:25 |
| schestowitz | i rarely look either | Sep 23 20:32 |
| schestowitz | But it's like abundantly positive | Sep 23 20:33 |
| schestowitz | I don't use language that upsets too many people | Sep 23 20:33 |
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| FurnaceBoy | hahahaha | Sep 23 20:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, to be as overtly political as I am would be a liability :D | Sep 23 20:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | but i lost my give-a-toss factor a few wars ago | Sep 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Nie | Sep 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Nice | Sep 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | Sep 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Please use identica | Sep 23 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I put you on our circulation, but you don't post with identica in the loop | Sep 23 20:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Sep 23 20:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | rite | Sep 23 20:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | i suck | Sep 23 20:47 |
| MinceR | "In the UNIX restaurant I asked for a fork. Suddenly two waitresses were standing there." | Sep 23 20:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm. | Sep 23 20:49 |
| schestowitz | And the younger one was 85 | Sep 23 20:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, moer like, suddenly a clone of myself appeared next to me at the table. | Sep 23 20:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | but heck, programmers can spoil any joke. :D | Sep 23 20:50 |
| MinceR | http://www.sarjis.info/sarjakuvat/questionablecontent/1759/ | Sep 23 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Questionable Content tänään - Sarjis.info .::. Size~: 7.39 KB | Sep 23 21:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | awesome. | Sep 23 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Sep 23 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://transforum.net/m.cgi?num=362 | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:36:26 FurnaceBoy | see, he had authority to say it. │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:36:30 FurnaceBoy | to a commencement class │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:36:55 FurnaceBoy | whcih is interesting, it makes him a kind of infiltrator │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:09 FurnaceBoy | in a way that (say) Steve jobs is not (in the context of the whole thread there) │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:23 FurnaceBoy | there is very little allowed radicalism, i am realising. │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:32 FurnaceBoy | i discuss this with schestowitz a lot , in #boycottnovell-social │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:46 FurnaceBoy | there is a constant war to marginalise anyone who challenges any establishment position or consensus │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:50 FurnaceBoy | it's a very powerful war │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | 17:37:54 FurnaceBoy | i am realising more and more │ | Sep 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Is that a coment from there? | Sep 23 22:59 |
| schestowitz | *mment | Sep 23 22:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Sep 23 23:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | i was citing an old thread about Jobs' Reed commencement address | Sep 23 23:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | self-aggrandising, and contrasting with David Foster Wallace's | Sep 23 23:02 |
| schestowitz | i c.. | Sep 23 23:05 |
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