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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/51625966#notice-52060152 "totally agree. It's frustrating at the least."Sep 24 01:20
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schestowitz"!stats How did I miss this? @schestowitz has gone past #22000 dents in fourth position on all-time denters spot. Congratulations!" http://identi.ca/notice/52070604 \o/Sep 24 02:37
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schestowitz"That post does more to demonstrate your lack of finance knowledge than it manages to deliver on substance. Great job!" bSep 24 02:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/grobertson/status/25361152858Sep 24 02:50
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schestowitzVery vague claim. He will need to be specificSep 24 02:50
*FurnaceBoy needs to fix that botSep 24 02:52
FurnaceBoythere's no reason why it shouldn't print the whole tweet.Sep 24 02:52
FurnaceBoywould be much nicerSep 24 02:52
schestowitzI think it's identica's <title>Sep 24 02:59
FurnaceBoywell, yeah, but i'll need that information when i get the bot srcSep 24 03:01
FurnaceBoy:-XSep 24 03:01
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSForce/statuses/25371064878 "Thanks to @Techrights.org http://techrights.org for featuring a link to Christine Halls FOSS Force article "Ellison & the GPL"!"Sep 24 10:47
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: it just displays what it gets (title, not page contents)Sep 24 10:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/grobertson/statuses/25373588757 " @schestowitz $MSFT issuing a new round of long-term bonds isn't exactly scandalous, and it certainly isn't a "ponzi scheme".  "Sep 24 10:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/grobertson/statuses/25374339335 " Referring to $MSFT bonds as a Ponzi scheme (Proper noun, Ponzi was a person) is beyond the pale, @schestowitz.  "Sep 24 10:49
schestowitzIt's a misattribution of my wordsSep 24 10:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/grobertson/statuses/25375468920 " @schestowitz Specific enough?  "Sep 24 10:50
oiaohmEnron anyone. schestowitzSep 24 10:57
schestowitzNot sure yetSep 24 10:57
schestowitzBut anyway, I quoted someoneSep 24 10:57
schestowitzThis guy from DownloadQuad challenged meSep 24 10:57
oiaohmLong term bonds held Enron up for a long time.Sep 24 10:57
schestowitzRather than the one who said itSep 24 10:58
schestowitz"Squad"Sep 24 10:58
oiaohmWhat is strange for years and years MS did not require any debt.Sep 24 10:58
oiaohmWhat has changed now.Sep 24 10:58
schestowitzIt says it's more profitableSep 24 10:58
schestowitzThat's the odd thingSep 24 10:58
schestowitzIf it makes more money (And buy less companies), this makes no senseSep 24 10:58
schestowitzWhere did the money go?Sep 24 10:59
schestowitzIf they make tens of billions?Sep 24 10:59
schestowitzInvestors maybeSep 24 10:59
oiaohmIf they were profitable you would expecting like Redhat problems.Sep 24 10:59
oiaohmIe not knowing what todo with the money.Sep 24 10:59
oiaohmYes I agree nothing is adding up.Sep 24 11:00
schestowitzWe'll find out one daySep 24 11:03
schestowitzBut for sure, Microsoft made some rich peopleSep 24 11:03
oiaohmSo did Enron.Sep 24 11:04
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Microsoft-Security-Essentials-free-for-small-businesses-1095532.html  Seen this schestowitzSep 24 11:07
oiaohmMS sticking the knife deeper into the anti-virus businessesSep 24 11:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/51641015#notice-52131181Sep 24 11:20
schestowitzoiaohm: let's seeSep 24 11:20
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/silner/statuses/25390778860 " @glynmoody @schestowitz There was a time when @bugabundo and I were the forerunners - long ago - bet he still holds the record though :)  "Sep 24 11:24
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schestowitzNow some downloadsquad is trolling me...Sep 24 13:49
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/grobertson/status/25397229362Sep 24 13:49
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schestowitz" "We wrote about Microsoft in relation to Ponzi schemes before" - That isn't misattribution, it's malice."Sep 24 13:50
schestowitz"In the US we have a colloquial phrase for it, "So Senator, when did you stop beating your wife?" The question assumes guilt."Sep 24 13:50
schestowitz"Not to be rude; How did you defend your doctoral thesis without a demonstrable understanding of logical fallacies?"Sep 24 13:50
schestowitz"We go way back. I remember when @schestowitz just spouted nonsense on Digg. Now he's redefining yellow journalism. So cute."Sep 24 13:50
schestowitzI hardly even responded to him.. just a few words. Better ignored..Sep 24 13:50
schestowitzhttp://www.priv.gc.ca/media/nr-c/2010/nr-c_100922_e.cfmSep 24 14:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle: News Release: Privacy Commissioner completes Facebook review - September 22, 2010 .::. Size~: 16.26 KBSep 24 14:30
schestowitzgnufreex: more anti-lInux from FloydSep 24 14:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25326519551 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25328898480 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25329980870Sep 24 14:51
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schestowitzI'm glad he's exposing himself like thisSep 24 14:51
schestowitzAnti-Linux tooSep 24 14:51
schestowitzPro-patentsSep 24 14:51
schestowitzNow it's instantly provableSep 24 14:51
schestowitzHis only friend who write (blogger) is fauxopensourcerSep 24 14:51
schestowitzDanaSep 24 14:51
schestowitz*writesSep 24 14:51
schestowitz" FOSSpatents: @willjohansson By that I mean political bodies could consider it positive that software patents put a limit (not an end) to commoditization. "Sep 24 14:56
schestowitzFOSSpatents if anti-FOSSpro-patentSep 24 15:16
schestowitz"The US must abolish its death penalty. Then it will not serve for Iran and China to justify theirs." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jul-oct.html#22%20September%202010%20%28Execution%20controversies%29Sep 24 15:23
schestowitzhttps://act.credoaction.com/survey/prop23/index.html?r=6117Sep 24 15:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Prop 23 Volunteer Survey .::. Size~: 12.52 KBSep 24 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/21/barack-obama-us-democrats-midtermsSep 24 15:27
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: wow, where does the vitriol come from with these trolls?Sep 24 15:36
schestowitzWhich ones?Sep 24 15:45
schestowitzBTW, I don't post here the vitriol against meSep 24 15:45
gnufreexschestowitz: Sorry, I was out.Sep 24 16:05
gnufreexschestowitz: I just remebered one video that breaks Floyd's "10:1 destruction" theorySep 24 16:06
gnufreexI will try to find it.Sep 24 16:06
schestowitzvideo?Sep 24 16:06
gnufreexschestowitz: here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntzp8z14OXQSep 24 16:06
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - The Open Source Triple Play   .::. Size~: 102.51 KBSep 24 16:06
gnufreexMichael TiemanSep 24 16:07
gnufreexExplains who customers of open source company can inovateSep 24 16:07
schestowitzah...Sep 24 16:07
schestowitzI'll oggify and post itSep 24 16:07
schestowitzWhere's the original?Sep 24 16:07
gnufreexI think it is on Red Hat site.Sep 24 16:08
gnufreexI will try to findSep 24 16:08
gnufreexhere is PDF http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redhat.com%2Ff%2Fpdf%2Fsummit%2FOSS-Summit-NoCIO.pdf&ei=x76cTNWnBciOswb-653mDg&usg=AFQjCNG3N3nAWMHwpTRu9_eVdFHOp0DZMA&sig2=Kx3Yj607gtWeOb9AMY5z1wSep 24 16:09
gnufreexhttp://www.redhat.com/magazine/001nov04/features/tripleplay/Sep 24 16:10
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gnufreexSchestowitz: Here is OGG http://www.redhat.com/v/magazine/ogg/TiemannTriplePlay.oggSep 24 16:11
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schestowitzthanksSep 24 16:11
schestowitzI'll plug that in and postSep 24 16:11
gnufreexSo open source is not killing inovation. That is what Microsoft want us to think. And it is load of bullock.Sep 24 16:13
schestowitzI know...Sep 24 16:13
schestowitzUsing commoditySep 24 16:13
schestowitzInvesting in noveltySep 24 16:13
schestowitzNot reinventing wheelsSep 24 16:13
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/24/red-hat-vp-tripleplay/Sep 24 16:17
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Michael Tiemann Explains How Free Software Grows Revenue and Increases Innovation | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.31 KBSep 24 16:17
gnufreexWhat is good thing about this is that software won't get overdesigned. People will build it when it is needed. It will make it to do things that need to do. With propriatary software, vendor tries to tell you what you need and tries to make you use all their bloat just because they missed to predict what you will need.Sep 24 16:17
schestowitzunlike asterisk or apacheSep 24 16:19
schestowitzHm,,,, http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20017483-248.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20Sep 24 16:24
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schestowitzFor me it's the opposite this yearSep 24 16:24
gnufreex[17:18:52] <schestowitz> unlike asterisk or apacheSep 24 16:25
gnufreexhow do you mean?Sep 24 16:25
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yea you did above.Sep 24 16:33
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: g robinsonSep 24 16:33
schestowitzThey provide a basis, core functionalitySep 24 16:53
FurnaceBoyplatformSep 24 16:53
schestowitzyesSep 24 17:01
schestowitzMicrosoft makes platfoam, not platformSep 24 17:01
schestowitzHmm.. I like the source of that,Sep 24 17:02
schestowitzKarsten Gerloff, the president of the Free Software Foundation Europe, was on the same panel as Holt, and said he was "disheartened to hear [Canonical is] not competing with Microsoft in the desktop space".Sep 24 17:23
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/desktop-os/2010/09/23/ubuntu-not-necessarily-competing-with-windows-7-40090229/Sep 24 17:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Ubuntu 'not necessarily competing' with Windows 7 | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 41.77 KBSep 24 17:23
schestowitzNotice how he cited the worst 'market share' for LinuxSep 24 17:23
schestowitzWorst as in lowest availableSep 24 17:23
schestowitzhttp://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/09/westminster-cctv-car-gets-the-big-brother-watch-treatment.htmlSep 24 17:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Westminster CCTV Car gets the Big Brother Watch treatment - Big Brother Watch .::. Size~: 40.73 KBSep 24 17:37
schestowitzTeeheeSep 24 17:37
gnufreexDana echoes Floyd http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-enterprise-market-is-not-walking-away-from-open-source/7422Sep 24 18:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The enterprise market is not walking away from open source | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 106.17 KBSep 24 18:24
gnufreexOh, that was yesterday.Sep 24 18:25
gnufreexBut it's still newsSep 24 18:25
schestowitzI knowSep 24 18:27
schestowitzI saw thisSep 24 18:27
schestowitzThey are alike in some waysSep 24 18:27
gnufreexI have a feeling that Dana is just clueless and wants trafic at all cost.Sep 24 18:27
gnufreexschestowitz: But there is still posability that he is paid too.Sep 24 18:28
gnufreexby msSep 24 18:29
FurnaceBoythere are many ways to 'pay' and m$ knows all of themSep 24 18:29
schestowitz[18:27] <gnufreex> I have a feeling that Dana is just clueless and wants trafic at all cost.Sep 24 18:42
schestowitzHe said so in a waySep 24 18:42
schestowitzHe gets paid by trafficSep 24 18:42
schestowitzComments/viewsSep 24 18:42
schestowitzSo sometimes he provokesSep 24 18:42
schestowitzHe is not paid by MicrosoftSep 24 18:43
schestowitzIDG isSep 24 18:43
schestowitzAnd they never gifted him AFAIKSep 24 18:43
gnufreexYes, I remember when he said that.Sep 24 18:43
schestowitzI've read his blog for 5 yearsSep 24 18:43
schestowitzAlmost all itemsSep 24 18:43
schestowitzSame with Mac AsaySep 24 18:43
schestowitzI know too much about them and they don't always like thatSep 24 18:43
gnufreexHeheSep 24 18:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Sn1per/statuses/25417637250 "You are right on the money my friend!"Sep 24 18:47
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schestowitzre: "what I see in The Reg is a longtime Microsoft proponent spinning MySQL as a Windows tool; that's why I distrust today's Register"Sep 24 18:47
schestowitzbSep 24 18:47
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/25417579908Sep 24 18:47
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schestowitzGavin Clarke spiSep 24 18:47
schestowitzI don't like the guySep 24 18:47
schestowitzMary Jo's mateSep 24 18:47
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/silner/statuses/25416133077 "Like a lot of Register articles you have to read to the end to get the punchline :)"Sep 24 18:48
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/25415573949 "avoiding ex-MS execs is increasingly difficult..."Sep 24 18:48
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schestowitzThe point is, some companies have more of them and some put them in CEO, COO, GM positions.Sep 24 18:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/harishpillay/statuses/25415251497 "exactly. pot calling the kettle black."Sep 24 18:49
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schestowitzre http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/25415144424Sep 24 18:49
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schestowitz"the irony of this article about Oracle lockin coming from Microsoft's cheerleading blog"Sep 24 18:49
schestowitzWhat’s happening?Sep 24 18:50
schestowitz140Sep 24 18:50
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schestowitz"MPAA hat natürlich "gute Gründe" für #ACTA http://ur1.ca/1rf48 "Sep 24 18:52
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gnufreexNobody (except Dana) is feeding Trollian Mueller. That is good, he is getting boycotted. schestowitzSep 24 20:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Arianna reveals her true coloursSep 24 20:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: she's asking that nobody look into the real motives of Fuckerberg's $100m donation to NewarkSep 24 20:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and so the establishment looks after its own.Sep 24 20:58
FurnaceBoyQEDSep 24 20:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and as usual does it in the most patronising, alienating way -- deliberately to paint anyone who asks questions, as a freak: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/troubled-times-when-mark-_b_737159.htmlSep 24 21:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Arianna Huffington: Troubled Times: When Mark Zuckerberg's Inspiring, Courageous Generosity Is Not Good Enough .::. Size~: 196.44 KBSep 24 21:01
FurnaceBoywhat a hypocriteSep 24 21:02
FurnaceBoyshe;s essentially defendng trickle-down economicsSep 24 21:02
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schestowitz[20:58] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: she's asking that nobody look into the real motives of Fuckerberg's $100m donation to NewarkSep 24 21:57
schestowitz*LOL*Sep 24 21:57
schestowitzFurnacePloy: Arianna wants Zuck's walletSep 24 21:57
schestowitzRemember she's a buddy of one of the biggest scammer of this kindSep 24 21:58
schestowitzHe must have brainwashed herSep 24 21:58
schestowitzRObber Baron capitalismSep 24 21:58
schestowitzFurnacePloy: can I ask you a favour?Sep 24 21:58
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qu1j0t317:02:00    @eikonos | "Mark sees himself as a Bill Gates type. He has a hacker mentality — he wants to take on the establishment and he wants to make a       │Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3                     | difference."                                                                                                                            │Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t317:02:23    @eikonos | we're going to play a game... see if you can read that without blowing coffee out your nose                                             │Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t317:03:52    @eikonos | "Zuckerberg, he said, is the young geek who makes a billion but then unwittingly becomes a target when the technology fails to match up │Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3                     | to expectations."                                                                                                                       │Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t317:03:58    @eikonos | yes... it's all the technology's faultSep 24 22:08
schestowitzFind out if Causecast (Huff and Puff) is funded by GatesSep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3schestowitz: can you believe that? (sorry about the ugly paste)Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3"Zuckerberg, he said, is the young geek who makes a billion but then unwittingly becomes a target"Sep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3wtfSep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3this is getting ridiculousSep 24 22:08
qu1j0t3the hagiographers like them young these daysSep 24 22:09
MinceRlol @ drawing a parallel between gate$ and hacker mentalitySep 24 22:09
schestowitzPoor MarkSep 24 22:09
qu1j0t3MinceR: YEAH!Sep 24 22:09
qu1j0t3if you're gonna be clueless, go ALL OUTSep 24 22:09
schestowitzMinceR: Gates talked about hackwersSep 24 22:09
*qu1j0t3 SMHSep 24 22:09
MinceRqu1j0t3: :DSep 24 22:09
schestowitzHow they should kick the  out of the clubsSep 24 22:09
schestowitz*themSep 24 22:09
qu1j0t3my head is spinning at this garbageSep 24 22:09
schestowitzSydney Morning HErlad?Sep 24 22:10
qu1j0t3but at least Arianna showed her true coloursSep 24 22:10
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Shakin' Mah HeadSep 24 22:10
schestowitzShe has colours?Sep 24 22:10
schestowitzZombies are paleSep 24 22:10
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes, her colour is "rich white"Sep 24 22:10
schestowitzFind out if Causecast (Huff and Puff) is funded by GatesSep 24 22:10
schestowitzIt's importantSep 24 22:10
schestowitzI want to know if she's bribed by himSep 24 22:10
schestowitzTo carry his propragnda which she doesSep 24 22:10
qu1j0t3was she bribed by Fuckerberg to write this incredible bullshit?Sep 24 22:11
qu1j0t3i doubt it. she knows the favours will come eventually.Sep 24 22:11
schestowitzNo, I don't knowSep 24 22:11
qu1j0t3she just loves money.Sep 24 22:11
schestowitzBut find out about GatesSep 24 22:11
MinceRlol @ "Fuckerberg"Sep 24 22:11
schestowitzCausecastSep 24 22:11
qu1j0t3she doesn't require payment in advance.Sep 24 22:11
MinceRi'm going to adopt thatSep 24 22:11
schestowitzMinceR: he screws rocksSep 24 22:11
qu1j0t3LOLSep 24 22:11
MinceRschestowitz: probably in the ear?Sep 24 22:11
qu1j0t3schestowitz: his seed therefore fell on.. stony ground.Sep 24 22:12
schestowitzThe earhole is too bigSep 24 22:12
schestowitzFOr him anywaySep 24 22:12
schestowitzHe's like one of those priestsSep 24 22:12
qu1j0t3FacePlant, FacePalmSep 24 22:12
MinceRhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/14/damning-zuckerberg-i.htmlSep 24 22:12
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: but this arianna thing is representative of her wider thinking.Sep 24 22:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "never criticise or question those richer than thou"Sep 24 22:13
schestowitzI need to find out about CausecastSep 24 22:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "education shall survive on the crumbs from the billionaires' table"Sep 24 22:13
schestowitzHelp me out, will you?Sep 24 22:13
schestowitzqu1j0t3: heheSep 24 22:13
qu1j0t3well, all i can do is google. but okSep 24 22:13
schestowitzEducation?Sep 24 22:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yesSep 24 22:13
schestowitzThe one they hijack?Sep 24 22:13
schestowitzIt was a public serviceSep 24 22:14
schestowitzFro public to publicSep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3schestowitz: not just education. she broadens this that thee whole goddamn country should run on charitySep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3i can see how it works now.Sep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3billionaires take $1tln, and give back, say, max 1blnSep 24 22:14
schestowitzShe's be the SJSep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3it's the new 'business;Sep 24 22:14
schestowitzDJSep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3that's not bad. 99.9% profit.Sep 24 22:14
schestowitzMaster of Ceremony Arrie will be the pristehood for the rulig classSep 24 22:14
schestowitzShe'll tell the delusional storiesSep 24 22:14
qu1j0t3i see how it works. this is post-business.Sep 24 22:15
schestowitzWhile the masses work hard to keep Mark&Bill happySep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3war and bailouts -> super-rich. then they give back, say, 0.1%Sep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3and get free PR for yearsSep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3while their kids don't die.Sep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3their kids get educated.Sep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3everyone else's ? shot at and dying.Sep 24 22:15
qu1j0t3i can see why she wants to figt for this system, for her buddies.Sep 24 22:15
schestowitzqu1j0t3: cope with itSep 24 22:15
schestowitzThe most generous people are also richest :-)Sep 24 22:16
qu1j0t3LOLSep 24 22:16
schestowitzNot the one who gives away the $1000 which is all one has leftSep 24 22:16
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's not their money. problem #1.Sep 24 22:16
schestowitzThe ones with PR agents and tokens of promisesSep 24 22:16
qu1j0t3schestowitz: right!Sep 24 22:16
schestowitzTo MonsantoSep 24 22:16
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Fuckerberg is worth est $5blnSep 24 22:16
schestowitzMonsanto to feed the world's hungry ! :-))Sep 24 22:16
schestowitzI need to find out about Causecast.......Sep 24 22:17
schestowitzPlease..Sep 24 22:17
schestowitzIt's important, trust meSep 24 22:17
oiaohmMonsanto GM altered food without good testing.Sep 24 22:17
schestowitzWe can nuke Huff's credibility with thisSep 24 22:17
oiaohmWonder if they are up to hidden population control.Sep 24 22:18
schestowitzI'm quite sure Gates funds it but have no smoking gun to prove it yetSep 24 22:18
schestowitzI have the smoking gun on Guardian cause they showed itSep 24 22:18
schestowitzSo any puff piece on BIll in the Guardian is now a parodySep 24 22:18
schestowitzWell, not parody per daySep 24 22:19
schestowitz*seSep 24 22:19
schestowitzIt makes the Guardian a parody of a media companySep 24 22:19
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I guess you saw this already http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/3/5/4472629.htmlSep 24 22:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Gates Keepers :: Matthew Bishop, Huffpo, Causecast, Trevor Neilson, and the rest of the Philanthrocapitalist Complex .::. Size~: 25.61 KBSep 24 22:27
qu1j0t3Huffington Post explained that Causecast’s values are in alignment with its own and that the editorial process is similar to other sections on the site. “Impact editors receive this guidance jointly from senior editors at both HuffPost and Causecast. There is an ongoing back and forth between the HuffPost and Causecast teams.”Sep 24 22:28
qu1j0t3OMGSep 24 22:31
qu1j0t3i don't believe thisSep 24 22:31
qu1j0t3http://www.causeintegration.com/2010/technoserve-gates-foundation-and-coca-cola-help-farmers/Sep 24 22:32
TechrightsBot-scTitle: TechnoServe, Gates Foundation and Coca Cola Help Farmers | Cause Integration .::. Size~: 25.35 KBSep 24 22:32
qu1j0t3"the project aims to create new market opportunities for local farmers whose fruit will be used for Coca-Cola’s locally-produced and sold fruit juices"Sep 24 22:32
qu1j0t3WHILE TAKING ALL THEIR WATER and polluting everything around.Sep 24 22:33
qu1j0t3this is scandalousSep 24 22:33
qu1j0t3-> http://www.indiaresource.org/campaigns/coke/2005/gangaikondan.htmlSep 24 22:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: IRC- Coca-Cola - Water Wars and Bottle Battles  .::. Size~: 36.37 KBSep 24 22:33
qu1j0t3-> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-25/china-india-water-shortage-means-coca-cola-joins-intel-in-city-farm-battle.htmlSep 24 22:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle:             Coca-Cola, Intel, Farmers Battle for Water in China, India - Bloomberg           .::. Size~: 67.65 KBSep 24 22:33
qu1j0t3-> http://www.worldwaterwars.com/World/India/index.htmSep 24 22:34
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Water Wars Worldwide .::. Size~: 23.74 KBSep 24 22:34
schestowitz[22:27] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: I guess you saw this already http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/3/5/4472629.htmlSep 24 22:34
schestowitzYesSep 24 22:34
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Gates Keepers :: Matthew Bishop, Huffpo, Causecast, Trevor Neilson, and the rest of the Philanthrocapitalist Complex .::. Size~: 25.61 KBSep 24 22:34
schestowitzThat's the one I knowSep 24 22:34
schestowitz“Impact editors receive this guidance jointly from senior editors at both HuffPost and Causecast. There is an ongoing back and forth between the HuffPost and Causecast teams.”Sep 24 22:34
schestowitzSounds like The Guardian's dealSep 24 22:34
schestowitz[22:33] <qu1j0t3> this is scandalousSep 24 22:35
schestowitzNoSep 24 22:35
schestowitzIt's GatesSep 24 22:35
qu1j0t3yes, it's Gates.Sep 24 22:35
qu1j0t3he's in on it.Sep 24 22:35
schestowitzAs in, "it's not scandalous, it's just a Gates(R)"Sep 24 22:35
schestowitzHe puts his brand value on stauffSep 24 22:35
schestowitzMaybe one day he'll overtake Coke on brand valueSep 24 22:35
qu1j0t3"ongoing back and forth between Gates Foundation and Guardian editorial board"Sep 24 22:36
schestowitzqu1j0t3: he isSep 24 22:36
schestowitzBUT...Sep 24 22:36
schestowitzNot news to meSep 24 22:36
schestowitzYou didn't know he's a MAJOR coke INVESTOR?Sep 24 22:36
schestowitzHe promoted their aganda... for profitSep 24 22:36
schestowitz[22:33] <TechrightsBot-sc> Title:             Coca-Cola, Intel, Farmers Battle for Water in China, India - Bloomberg           .::. Size~: 67.65 KBSep 24 22:36
schestowitzYes, got that covered at the timeSep 24 22:36
schestowitzChips first, thirsty children--laterSep 24 22:36
schestowitzThe Causecast one is trickySep 24 22:37
schestowitzMight need descending to names of people who are on itSep 24 22:37
schestowitzI bet it's Gates' Guardian like programme for Huff and PuffSep 24 22:37
schestowitzIt's used in the same waySep 24 22:37
schestowitzYet I can't say to my readers, "this is a GATES FUNDED Huff and Puff PUFF piece"Sep 24 22:38
schestowitzI can just say it's part of a ection formed after Bill Met Sally... I mean, AriannaSep 24 22:38
schestowitz*sectionSep 24 22:38
qu1j0t3schestowitz: look, it's always the same tacticSep 24 22:40
qu1j0t3Ever since the first allegations arose in Kerala, India, of water scarcity and polluted water resulting from its bottling operations, Coca-Cola's public relations department has churned out denials, insisting that the charges are false and that it is the "target of a handful of extremist protesters."Sep 24 22:40
qu1j0t3"extremist protesters"Sep 24 22:40
qu1j0t3why, of course they're "extremists"! If they had a valid position, they wouldn't PROTEST, WOULD THEY?Sep 24 22:40
schestowitzIf you didn't like the Mark "dumb fucks" Bregie is an angel story, then Causecast would not help your blood pressureSep 24 22:42
schestowitzWe need to break the news about its funding sourceSep 24 22:42
qu1j0t3http://twitter.com/q_e_d/status/25134099038Sep 24 22:42
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / quantum: RT @anarchistnews Ten Less ... .::. Size~: 12.67 KBSep 24 22:42
schestowitzMy main post about causecast: http://techrights.org/2010/03/15/huffington-causecast-and-gates/Sep 24 22:43
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Huffington Post, Technologizer, and Other Web Sites in Bills Pocket | Techrights .::. Size~: 117.75 KBSep 24 22:44
schestowitzBut we need more materialSep 24 22:44
schestowitzMaybe inquire with Arriana by E-mailSep 24 22:44
schestowitzForge your mail as coming from billg@microsoft.com :-pSep 24 22:44
schestowitzThen she might bother getting off the bidet and answerSep 24 22:44
qu1j0t3she's certainly going to block me on twitter after today ;-)Sep 24 22:45
schestowitzSHe wouldn't read anyone'sSep 24 22:47
schestowitzUnless they might buy her her boo^H^H^HwashSep 24 22:47
schestowitzRich people sympathsising with the middle/low classSep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3she's essentially championing tricke downSep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3trickle-down*Sep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3protect the super-rich, for they are better people, who will look after the peasantsSep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3it's feudalism, not even veiledSep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3horribleSep 24 22:48
schestowitzCrocodile tears/rich man's guiltSep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3book tour!Sep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3Third World America!Sep 24 22:48
qu1j0t3my friends created it so here I am commiserating!Sep 24 22:48
schestowitzHeheSep 24 22:48
schestowitz[22:48] <qu1j0t3> Third World America!Sep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3honestly, she's a pigSep 24 22:49
schestowitzPoor hjerSep 24 22:49
schestowitzLiving in Third World America!Sep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3oh, SHE doesn't.Sep 24 22:49
schestowitzIt must be harsh for her livin' in the ghettoSep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3we'll probably find out she lives it up in greece half the time with her relatives.Sep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3i mean, wouldn't you?Sep 24 22:49
schestowitzIgnore those illeterate artists, buy HER book with the nickelSep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3rich as CroesusSep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3why would you slum it in 3rd World America?Sep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3all the rest moved to DubaiSep 24 22:49
qu1j0t3mind you, that's a shithole, but we won't tell them.Sep 24 22:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: EXACTLY!Sep 24 22:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I suppose she's been on Oprah already.Sep 24 22:50
qu1j0t3"Rich woman, good works!"Sep 24 22:50
qu1j0t3"An example to us all!"Sep 24 22:50
qu1j0t3Saint AriannaSep 24 22:50
*qu1j0t3 vomitsSep 24 22:50
schestowitzOprah hosts quacksSep 24 22:50
schestowitzShe gives platforms like a PR agetsSep 24 22:51
schestowitzTO any fraud that can make people watch in amazementSep 24 22:51
schestowitzThe Chopra/Geller typesSep 24 22:51
schestowitzAlien 'experts' :-)Sep 24 22:51
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