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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: FurnacePloy http://valleywag.gawker.com/5647434/zuckerberg-on-oprah-my-100-million-donation-is-about-kids-not-the-social-network?skyline=true&s=i | Sep 25 00:51 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Zuckerberg on Oprah: My $100 Million Donation Is About Kids, Not The Social Network .::. Size~: 84.06 KB | Sep 25 00:51 |
| schestowitz | awwwwwwwwwwww :-) | Sep 25 00:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | ........... | Sep 25 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Yo | Sep 25 00:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | excuse me while i vomit | Sep 25 00:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | the great crusader for "Free" | Sep 25 00:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | Fuckerberg will tell us all about free stuff | Sep 25 00:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | Saint Arianna sticks up for Saint Fuckerberg | Sep 25 00:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | those apostles sure stick togethah | Sep 25 00:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | Saint Bill | Sep 25 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Sep 25 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Need info on causeCAST! | Sep 25 01:39 |
| FurnacePloy | detective work isn't my forte | Sep 25 01:40 |
| FurnacePloy | if you can't find it, it must be bloody hard to find | Sep 25 01:41 |
| FurnacePloy | but i have an idea | Sep 25 01:41 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 25 01:46 |
| schestowitz | I gave up | Sep 25 01:46 |
| schestowitz | UK Business ISP Timico Challenges Pigeon to Beat Rural Broadband [..] "The comical stunt is designed to raise awareness..." http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-09-16-012-35-NW-NT | Sep 25 02:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linux Today - UK Business ISP Timico Challenges Pigeon to Beat Rural Broadband .::. Size~: 79.93 KB | Sep 25 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Like I told SJVN.. | Sep 25 02:42 |
| schestowitz | http://libv.livejournal.com/22502.html http://www.pennystocklive.com/2010092425953/financial-market/top-gainers-in-focus-emc-hpq-txn-rht-wdc/ 'Red Hat, Inc. NYSE:RHT closed at $40.07 advanced by 9.03% with total traded volume of 13.30 million shares for the day,' | Sep 25 03:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: libv: The linux desktop is dead! .::. Size~: 83.84 KB | Sep 25 03:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Volume Gainers in Focus (EMC, HPQ, TXN, RHT, WDC) | Penny Stock Live .::. Size~: 25.86 KB | Sep 25 03:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.salon.com/wires/us/2010/09/24/D9IEOJA80_us_clinton_global_initiative/index.html | Sep 25 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Bill Clinton raises billions to tackle poverty - AP News Wire, Associated Press News - Salon.com .::. Size~: 64.55 KB | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | Former President Bill Clinton's three-day conference for VIPs with deep pockets generated nearly 300 new commitments valued at $6 billion to tackle major global issues from poverty and disease to climate change. | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | The sixth Clinton Global Initiative, which wrapped up late Thursday, brought together 67 current and former heads of state, more than 600 business leaders, and more than 500 leaders from non-governmental and philanthropic organizations. The VIP attendees included President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former president's wife, | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | Queen Rania of Jordan and Bill Gates. | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | i.e. | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | "The Usual Suspects." | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | Rania's role seems to be much like Arianna's. | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | she sits squarely on the fence | Sep 25 08:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | her position is even worse, since she hobnobs with the people who are laying waste to the Middle East | Sep 25 08:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | how does she sell that to her people? strange indeed. | Sep 25 08:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | "I think it's the way they reinforce one another -- it's the networking," the ex-president said in an interview during the conference, trying to explain its success. "They get pumped up on each other and start trying to really do something." | Sep 25 08:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | "How to do something for yourself while not giving a shit about others." | Sep 25 08:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Over the years," Clinton said, "the people that come here want to do something meaningful with their lives and with the mission of their companies, like Procter and Gamble's president saying their goal was to save one life an hour somewhere on the planet every hour of the day." | Sep 25 08:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | "I think people believe in this idea of the obligation of citizens to take action to do something about these problems," he said. | Sep 25 08:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'obligation of the citizens'? | Sep 25 08:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | pretty soon this house of cards of lies must fall down | Sep 25 08:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | The conference is similar to the World Economic Forum in Davos in its provocative panels and opportunities for networking, but Clinton said there is one major difference -- any participant in the Clinton Global Initiative must make a financial commitment. | Sep 25 08:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | "provocative panels"? | Sep 25 08:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | this all sounds like a motivational camp | Sep 25 08:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | take 1 day off in a year to generate some press releases, then go back to raping and pillaging the rest of the year. | Sep 25 08:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | you know, like everyone else, i probably used to believe this shit | Sep 25 08:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't think the illusion will hold much longer | Sep 25 08:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a pastime for the super-rich, and as you said, a guilt salve | Sep 25 08:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | they are pimps | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | [08:12] <qu1j0t3> Rania's role seems to be much like Arianna's. | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | ]Yes | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Wanna see? | Sep 25 08:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | sure | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | OK, wait... | Sep 25 08:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | i asked Omar Hafez about it | Sep 25 08:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | how she could reconcile the war mongers to her people | Sep 25 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Clinton works for Gates BTW | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | he said "it's tricky" | Sep 25 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Lobbyist for his brand and vice versa | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, obviously | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | and Hillary is another spokes-woman | Sep 25 08:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/ | Sep 25 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Walmart Chairman, Warren Buffett, Notorious Bankers, Timothy Geithner, and Even Queen of Jordan Come to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 115.52 KB | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | Rania is good looking as well. so it all works out perfectly. | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | nobody could possibly question her motives | Sep 25 08:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, yes, i remember this article. | Sep 25 08:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | insane. | Sep 25 08:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | Those who control the money control the consensus. | Sep 25 08:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | it has never been so clear to me. | Sep 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | [08:19] <qu1j0t3> i asked Omar Hafez about it | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | things are moving fast now | Sep 25 08:22 |
| schestowitz | We discussed this in IRC at the time | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | Gates now owns the faux-progressive paper in the UK | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is big | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | where's the counter-move? | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | we can't even defuse Fuckerberg's $100m toss | Sep 25 08:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's on freaking Oprah | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | apparently everybody buys it | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | He's not a major problem | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | well,... symbolically he is | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's the new Gates | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Zuckdumber that is | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | time is catching up with Old Bill | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Ewww... | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's going to die | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | [08:23] <qu1j0t3> he's the new Gates | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | I'm eating duee | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Don't say this drek | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | but he is. | Sep 25 08:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | and in some ways he's smarter. | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Also, the "new Microsoft" is a phrase I hate | Sep 25 08:23 |
| schestowitz | "iPad killer".... | Sep 25 08:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's a mutation | Sep 25 08:24 |
| schestowitz | "new age Rockefeller" | Sep 25 08:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at him. his trajectory. | Sep 25 08:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | you know what i mean when i say that. | Sep 25 08:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's groomed | Sep 25 08:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's important. he has the eyeballs. | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | he did what Gates failed at. | Sep 25 08:25 |
| schestowitz | "He's just a young talent" | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes i know. technology let him down. his ideals. | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | his intentions were pure | Sep 25 08:25 |
| schestowitz | But his early day offences that I know of are not huge | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | but some bugs made him look bad | Sep 25 08:25 |
| schestowitz | He just created a privacy violating network | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Just Like Bill. | Sep 25 08:25 |
| schestowitz | And lifted code | Sep 25 08:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep. | Sep 25 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Bill got in in the garbage can | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | but he started the reputation fixing very young | Sep 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Zuck got it from code he made for others | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | he learned | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | from Bill | Sep 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | There's also the Harvard harvesting fiasco | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | But his early day offences that I know of are not huge | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ^^ exactly. | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | I know that. | Sep 25 08:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | his crimes are ahead | Sep 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Let's be reasonable | Sep 25 08:26 |
| schestowitz | I just hate 'donation' PR | Sep 25 08:27 |
| schestowitz | You wanna donate? Stop make publicity parties over it | Sep 25 08:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | i didn't hate it so much when i was younger. | Sep 25 08:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | but now I see much much more clearly what it's all about. | Sep 25 08:27 |
| schestowitz | WOrth 5bn? Stop pretending to be worthy of feet-kissing for generosity | Sep 25 08:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | i hate that part too. | Sep 25 08:27 |
| schestowitz | SOme Indian papers complained about it too | Sep 25 08:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | but now i realise it's systemic | Sep 25 08:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | hell, they should. | Sep 25 08:27 |
| schestowitz | Like Warren and Bill with their latest charm offence in CHina | Sep 25 08:27 |
| schestowitz | If you say this they label you "just jealous" | Sep 25 08:28 |
| schestowitz | WHen it has nothing to do with it, it's just resistance to spin | Sep 25 08:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | This is what I now realise it is: http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/25452443162 | Sep 25 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / TT: @BinaBecker It's the new " ... .::. Size~: 12.95 KB | Sep 25 08:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | except I left out, (war, bailouts, and MICROSOFT) | Sep 25 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Some people say boycott Exxon just cause they have big profits | Sep 25 08:29 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yes | Sep 25 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Now, now... | Sep 25 08:36 |
| schestowitz | WHy won't you find a way to make money.../ | Sep 25 08:36 |
| schestowitz | People who make money do so cause they offer something good, always | Sep 25 08:37 |
| schestowitz | And then they can rescue the planet | Sep 25 08:37 |
| schestowitz | [sarcasm /] | Sep 25 08:37 |
| schestowitz | Cause money is a real commodity made not at the expense of others either | Sep 25 08:37 |
| schestowitz | And those who create money out of thin air can give some of it to feed hungry children | Sep 25 08:38 |
| schestowitz | [sarcasm /] | Sep 25 08:38 |
| schestowitz | You'd be surprised how many people still fall for the "money is food" conceptualisation (not money is debt) and money is made by doing good, rather than by relying of one's leverage over another's in society | Sep 25 08:39 |
| schestowitz | Arriana gets high karma | Sep 25 08:39 |
| schestowitz | She hangs around the right people | Sep 25 08:39 |
| schestowitz | Whoa... here I was reading "ubuntu" news | Sep 25 08:40 |
| schestowitz | And this came up just now: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/118723 | Sep 25 08:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Clinton Global Initiative Announces the Opening of an Award-winning, World Class Community Centre and HIV Pediatric Clinic in the Townships of Port Elizabeth, South Africa - Press Release - Digital Journal .::. Size~: 27.25 KB | Sep 25 08:40 |
| schestowitz | "The Ubuntu Centre is the brainchild of Ubuntu Education Fund. In 1999, Ubuntu was founded with the goal of transforming the lives of the children of Port Elizabeth, South Africa." | Sep 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz | It has the CLintion(R) brand, they are such wonderful people | Sep 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz | Forget Kosovo... | Sep 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz | "In 2009, Ubuntu Education Fund committed to CGI to "bring the future to the children of South Africa" by outfitting The Ubuntu Centre with high-tech equipment and resources." | Sep 25 08:41 |
| schestowitz | "Humanity for others" [as long as they're not "brown people" (Carlin term)] | Sep 25 08:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.newstime.co.za/column/LyndallBeddy/Ubuntu_is_a_Kwanza_myth:_the_enemy_was_always_the_neighbouring_tribe/11/2299/ | Sep 25 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Ubuntu is a Kwanza myth: the enemy was always the neighbouring tribe. : NewsTime : Lyndall Beddy : Poetic Politics .::. Size~: 42.12 KB | Sep 25 08:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.weekendpost.co.za/opinion/article.aspx?id=609026 | Sep 25 08:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The Weekend Post Online .::. Size~: 40.91 KB | Sep 25 08:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: powerful force for truth: http://twitter.com/NaomiAKlein/status/25123861679 | Sep 25 08:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Naomi Klein: Isn't Bono's RED all about ... .::. Size~: 9.47 KB | Sep 25 08:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you abused the word 'karma' | Sep 25 08:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Sep 25 08:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: language has been turned into a weapon against us | Sep 25 08:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's the hallmark of our adversary. they turn everything into a weapon. language, money, charity, hope... | Sep 25 08:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and the irony is... the next day they'll hit you with a real weapon. a 500lb bomb on your family ome. | Sep 25 08:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | home* | Sep 25 08:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i know you 're familiar with the term: but GREAT definition: http://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/25432046019 | Sep 25 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Greg Sargent: "hippie punching": Attacks ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KB | Sep 25 08:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: RMS is VERY familiar with this one. | Sep 25 08:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | CENTRISM = CONSENSUS | Sep 25 08:59 |
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| schestowitz | Dell Releases Streak's Source Code http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369681,00.asp | Sep 25 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Dell Releases Streak's Source Code | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 86.09 KB | Sep 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz | "According to a small but vocal group of developers and enthusiasts online, the Streak used code licensed under the GNU General Public License..." | Sep 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Name the pattern | Sep 25 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Obeying the law="small but vocal group ..." | Sep 25 09:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | .......... | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | OMG | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | ]yes! | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz++ | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's EVERYWHERE | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | "small but vocal" | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | = UNIMPORTANT AND ANNOYING | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's it. | Sep 25 09:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | we know how to decode this crap | Sep 25 09:05 |
| abeNd_ | funny how the media will listen to the vocal minority in some instances, but lambast the vocal minority when it is something they dont understand | Sep 25 09:06 |
| schestowitz | [09:04] <qu1j0t3> "small but vocal" | Sep 25 09:08 |
| schestowitz | =few people are informed | Sep 25 09:08 |
| abeNd_ | sadly, most people choose to be ill informed, they don't want to be bothered with such things | Sep 25 09:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it fits into the other general theme of our time, | Sep 25 09:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that everything is backwards. | Sep 25 09:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: war is peace | Sep 25 09:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: lock-in is freedom | Sep 25 09:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's the minority who actually have a grip on sanity | Sep 25 09:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the good guys are the bad guys | Sep 25 09:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: charity is bondage | Sep 25 09:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: progress is slow death | Sep 25 09:12 |
| schestowitz | "@NaomiAKlein worse--Bono's RED is also Dell's and Gates' way of making people buy stuff while cheapening AIDS. They exploit disease." | Sep 25 09:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | she kicks ass | Sep 25 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Techrights has about 3 posts about "RED" | Sep 25 09:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | i saw her speak at g20 | Sep 25 09:13 |
| schestowitz | IInfuriating scam if you get your hands around Michael Dell's thinking | Sep 25 09:13 |
| schestowitz | "hey... he're AIDS... people care about it... how do we make it increase sales?" | Sep 25 09:14 |
| schestowitz | ANd then he put the BIllGates(R) brand on RED.. and Bono | Sep 25 09:14 |
| schestowitz | THey also did the "plant a tree" PR prior to this | Sep 25 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Buy a computer to save the environment | Sep 25 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Greenwashig | Sep 25 09:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | they've probably almost convinced themselves | Sep 25 09:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | i spent years working in marketing. your analysis is accurate. | Sep 25 09:15 |
| schestowitz | THanks | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | BUT.. | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | You should use identica too | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | I can't do oauth | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Departmet of Defence is a good example of reversal too | Sep 25 09:16 |
| abeNd_ | so how does one produce positive change when up against the likes of gates/bono & the masses drooling over them? | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Or Ministry of Truth (ORWELL) | Sep 25 09:16 |
| schestowitz | Time gave them power | Sep 25 09:17 |
| schestowitz | A cover story | Sep 25 09:17 |
| schestowitz | And Gates bought the Guardian, 2 days later they did a worship piece for Melinda | Sep 25 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Using the word "gods" in the headline | Sep 25 09:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes | Sep 25 09:18 |
| abeNd_ | nothing like a little pat on the back... | Sep 25 09:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: re: DoD | Sep 25 09:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: I am not sure | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | IDF | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | MoD | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Ministry of Defence | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Pre-emptive defence | Sep 25 09:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: I don't really believe that it can be done within the system. | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | As in, we destory first to ensure they don't, well... apparently they have the potential to destory us | Sep 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | DoD defended the US from WMoD from Iraq | Sep 25 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Thank Goodness for that | Sep 25 09:19 |
| abeNd_ | and doing it "outside the system" gets you labled unibomber | Sep 25 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Armor versus gun | Sep 25 09:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: depends. | Sep 25 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Suit versus uniform | Sep 25 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Pentagon=suit | Sep 25 09:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: i take the Gandhian approach | Sep 25 09:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: I don't think there's any other valid one, any more | Sep 25 09:20 |
| schestowitz | SOldiers wearing armous=to protect from inane, irrational suicide bombers | Sep 25 09:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | abeNd_: IEDs don't work. votes don't work. explaining doesn't work. | Sep 25 09:20 |
| schestowitz | "we are the victim" | Sep 25 09:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | (sorry schestowitz ) | Sep 25 09:20 |
| schestowitz | /armous/armour/ | Sep 25 09:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | only Gandhi's approach, and his antecedents, got it right, imho | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | [09:20] <qu1j0t3> abeNd_: IEDs don't work. votes don't work. explaining doesn't work. | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | It does | Sep 25 09:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes I know you believe it does. | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | But it doesn't last long | Sep 25 09:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: I don't believe it any more. | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch has them on the couch many hours a day | Sep 25 09:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Murdoch, Arianna, Gates, and their various branch offices. | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | So you face a session imbalance... not getting enough air time, so to speak | Sep 25 09:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: how to redress | Sep 25 09:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/13/open-source-brits-charge-bbc-foul-play/ | Sep 25 09:22 |
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| schestowitz | "Open source Brits" | Sep 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | But Mark Ballard is OK | Sep 25 09:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: bleh, i'm just feeling very negative today. i don't think it will pass, though. | Sep 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's editor's headline | Sep 25 09:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the scales are falling from my eyes and it's all bad neews. | Sep 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | COuld be worse | Sep 25 09:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | this Fuckerberg debacle is a new gorgeous syndrome | Sep 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | You're north of the more financially depressed nation | Sep 25 09:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's all too perfect | Sep 25 09:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, yes, i know it could be much worse | Sep 25 09:24 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what? You don't "Like(R)"? | Sep 25 09:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is a Heaven they shall never know. | Sep 25 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Heaven? | Sep 25 09:25 |
| schestowitz | I don't like this word | Sep 25 09:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehe | Sep 25 09:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | karma | Sep 25 09:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | you abused it | Sep 25 09:25 |
| schestowitz | It's another one of those things implyig afterlife | Sep 25 09:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | you know what I meant :) | Sep 25 09:25 |
| schestowitz | As in, "word hard now, things are tough, but" | Sep 25 09:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | anyway i have to go, it's ridiculously late. | Sep 25 09:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ciao! | Sep 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | TO you it's a metaphor | Sep 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | But you reinforce it by using it | Sep 25 09:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | i know exactly what you mean | Sep 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Others may read it like they read "passed on" | Sep 25 09:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | and i hate it for the same reasons | Sep 25 09:26 |
| abeNd_ | ah, its like "those" people who use that "n" word | Sep 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | I say "died"... | Sep 25 09:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok. l8r, | Sep 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Carlin taught me to avoid the euphemisms | Sep 25 09:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | +1 | Sep 25 09:26 |
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| schestowitz | abeNd_: which n word? | Sep 25 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Carlin on the n word? | Sep 25 09:27 |
| abeNd_ | the one that "they" can say, and it is supposed to mean something good somehow, but if said by "anyone else" it is nothing but evil | Sep 25 09:27 |
| schestowitz | It's not just "N" | Sep 25 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Many ethnic groups bar the use of the word that describes them collectively | Sep 25 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Cause when another group says it, then it can imply something stereotypical | Sep 25 09:28 |
| schestowitz | "the Chinese..." | Sep 25 09:28 |
| schestowitz | "the older people.." | Sep 25 09:29 |
| abeNd_ | I don't understand why it is continually used in entertainment media especially | Sep 25 09:29 |
| schestowitz | "the Muslims..." | Sep 25 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQb39wzpXE | Sep 25 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Sep 25 12:43 |
| schestowitz | FurnacePloy might like it | Sep 25 12:43 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/schestowitz/statuses/25478977097 "@schestowitz A week ago, it was Novell, Oracle. #redhat nowhere to be seen. Gordon Gecko would appreciate it but... ;-) http://bit.ly/bvkWTL" | Sep 25 12:54 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://twitter.com/anarchists/status/25510308445 | Sep 25 17:07 |
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| gnufreex | He attacks FSF now. http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/09/does-s-in-fsf-stand-for-spamming.html | Sep 25 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | [18:16] <gnufreex> He attacks FSF now. http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/09/does-s-in-fsf-stand-for-spamming.html | Sep 25 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | HAHAHAHAHAHAH | Sep 25 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Hypocrite1! | Sep 25 22:44 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, he spams INTERNETS | Sep 25 22:44 |
| schestowitz | The guy is mass-mailing who knows how many journalist without them asking for it (unsolicited) and he does this repeatedly | Sep 25 22:44 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he puts his URLs even in LWN | Sep 25 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Where he is not exacly welcome... not more than the ACCESS trolls | Sep 25 22:45 |
| gnufreex | Also, he said that someone from pirate party mailed him privatley adn that is rude | Sep 25 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Noticed how he started | Sep 25 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Friendlier attitude | Sep 25 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Now he goes.. Fidel Moglen... | Sep 25 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Now this... he attacks every single Linux thing... both FSF and LF/OIN (pragmatist) | Sep 25 22:46 |
| gnufreex | He will now become extremely rabid against FSF and "zealots" | Sep 25 22:46 |
| schestowitz | He also retweets Miguel now | Sep 25 22:46 |
| schestowitz | Well, real Linux folks know not to listen to him. With Dana he built a special relationship that now alienates him from PJ, whom he awared "best blog" like 4-5 years ago | Sep 25 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I should message Dana | Sep 25 22:47 |
| gnufreex | Christian once gave an important impulse that contributed to my decision to fight against software patents. On a mailing list, he saw a question I asked, but he felt that MySQL (the company I was advising at the time) wasn't active enough. He told me that view in a rather rude way: not on the list, but by a private reply. It wasn't my fault that it took MySQL some time to decide on what to do (and MySQL supported the | Sep 25 22:48 |
| gnufreex | cause like no comparable company did relative to its company size). So I basically agreed with Christian. It was necessary to do more. | Sep 25 22:48 |
| gnufreex | That is from his blog. schestowitz | Sep 25 22:48 |
| schestowitz | @DanaBlankenhorn in case you noticed/not, Florian has been promoting .NET, he is attacking the FSF right now, FFII, LF, OIN etc. | Sep 25 22:48 |
| gnufreex | He have been rude to you? He send private mails instead public ones? schestowitz | Sep 25 22:49 |
| gnufreex | lol | Sep 25 22:49 |
| gnufreex | He is also rude to Dana | Sep 25 22:49 |
| schestowitz | @DanaBlankenhorn Florian develops exclusively in .NET, his recent career is in lobbying, and he promotes everything that harms Linux and GNU | Sep 25 22:49 |
| gnufreex | And to other reporters. | Sep 25 22:50 |
| schestowitz | @DanaBlankenhorn I have read all your blog posts since 2005 and I am a tad disappointed you still fall for anti-FOSS reverse-trolls | Sep 25 22:50 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: rude to Dana? | Sep 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | How so? | Sep 25 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | why private | Sep 25 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Dana got some flak from Groklaw already | Sep 25 22:51 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: From Trollian's blog: He told me that view in a rather rude way: not on the list, but by a private reply. | Sep 25 22:52 |
| schestowitz | He deligitimises himself by aligning self with anti-FFII (anti-swpats) people | Sep 25 22:52 |
| Ender2070 | Florian attacks u in email? | Sep 25 22:52 |
| schestowitz | *deli | Sep 25 22:52 |
| Ender2070 | i've gotten stuff from him too before | Sep 25 22:52 |
| gnufreex | So, if Trollian ever sent mail to you | Sep 25 22:52 |
| schestowitz | *delegitimises | Sep 25 22:52 |
| gnufreex | He is rude | Sep 25 22:52 |
| gnufreex | And he sent mails to dana, he is rude. | Sep 25 22:52 |
| schestowitz | He speaks to Dana about me | Sep 25 22:52 |
| schestowitz | He told me | Sep 25 22:53 |
| schestowitz | In pricate he mass-mails a lot | Sep 25 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe not anymore, I can't tell now cause I'm off his distribution uberlist | Sep 25 22:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | mercifuly | Sep 25 22:53 |
| gnufreex | What I am pointing is that he considers private mails to be rude. Because it is not public. He wrote that on his blog. | Sep 25 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Huh? | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | HE also close blgo comments | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Cause people exposed him there | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I asked him why | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | He said he was too busy for the comments :-) | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | BUT.. | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | He has a lot of time to converse in LWN, SLashdot... | Sep 25 22:54 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I already quoted what Florian siad on his blog: "He told me that view in a rather rude way: not on the list, but by a private reply." | Sep 25 22:54 |
| schestowitz | And announce that he leaves comments, like those people who use their twitter to herald what they have for lunch | Sep 25 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... | Sep 25 22:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll show you something | Sep 25 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Actually I can't | Sep 25 22:55 |
| gnufreex | He is too busy for the comments. LOL | Sep 25 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It's private mail | Sep 25 22:55 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: in his OWN site | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | "Too busy to receive comments in my blog" | Sep 25 22:56 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I know. | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | "Too busy already chatting in /." | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Makes sense? | Sep 25 22:56 |
| gnufreex | No sense at all | Sep 25 22:56 |
| gnufreex | But even if he is too busy. | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Jose told me why he closed comments | Sep 25 22:56 |
| gnufreex | He don't need to respond to everything | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | I think he deleted some blocks of comments too | Sep 25 22:57 |
| gnufreex | James Gosling is a bussy guy | Sep 25 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Not sure | Sep 25 22:57 |
| Ender2070 | pwnage is going down by the way | Sep 25 22:57 |
| gnufreex | And he has comments on blog | Sep 25 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Cause he was presuured on his turf | Sep 25 22:57 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't like to be challenged | Sep 25 22:57 |
| schestowitz | So he submts stories to /. | Sep 25 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: why? | Sep 25 22:57 |
| Ender2070 | can't afford it | Sep 25 22:59 |
| Ender2070 | $30 /month to run that site (with its own server) | Sep 25 23:00 |
| Ender2070 | ill export my wordpress data and host it on wordpress | Sep 25 23:00 |
| Ender2070 | free | Sep 25 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Sep 25 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | use shared hosting | Sep 25 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Should be cheap | Sep 25 23:01 |
| Ender2070 | maybe | Sep 25 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: http://www.catalyst2.com/ | Sep 25 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | I'm loving this host | Sep 25 23:02 |
| Ender2070 | $5 a month for hosting | Sep 25 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Almost all my sites are hosted there | Sep 25 23:02 |
| Ender2070 | oh yeah | Sep 25 23:03 |
| Ender2070 | I own my domain name though | Sep 25 23:03 |
| Ender2070 | just need a cheap host | Sep 25 23:03 |
| Ender2070 | wordpress will work till I can get some extra funds | Sep 25 23:03 |
| Ender2070 | im living off of $120 a week and that has to pay my rent too | Sep 25 23:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: I can give you free space | Sep 25 23:06 |
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| FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: on a permanent well run FreeBSD vps | Sep 25 23:06 |
| Ender2070 | seriously? | Sep 25 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | of course | Sep 25 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | shell, mysql, php, whatever you need, | Sep 25 23:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | just pm me your ssh pub key | Sep 25 23:07 |
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| FurnaceBoy | i can also do dns /mail forwarding for you | Sep 25 23:07 |
| Ender2070 | sounds very good | Sep 25 23:07 |
| Ender2070 | i have mail covered | Sep 25 23:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | i just set it up , i am moving from expensive colo to cheaper vps | Sep 25 23:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | and i plan it to be permanent | Sep 25 23:08 |
| Ender2070 | can you email me and we can discuss it? i dont have a lot of time right now | Sep 25 23:08 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ok, so if you have name servers already, just add an address record | Sep 25 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | i can get it set up very quickly, the dc is in TO btw, a good one. | Sep 25 23:08 |
| Ender2070 | Toronto? | Sep 25 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok i'll drop you a mail. | Sep 25 23:08 |
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| Ender2070 | sick | Sep 25 23:09 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Sep 25 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's a major downtown DC | Sep 25 23:09 |
| Ender2070 | my current vps sits in michigan | Sep 25 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | all i need is your pubkey to get you ssh to set it up | Sep 25 23:09 |
| schestowitz | :) | Sep 25 23:09 |
| Ender2070 | ill email it to you | Sep 25 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Community spirit. tessier is hosting Techrights | Sep 25 23:10 |
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| Ender2070 | i use google apps for domains for email/calander/docs | Sep 25 23:11 |
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| Ender2070 | I replied, i have to go for a bit and ill be back later. | Sep 25 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | np | Sep 25 23:25 |
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