| Chips_B_Malroy | I can now add Yahoo to that list of sites and searches to never use, since Yahoo has basically become a front end for Bing. | Sep 02 00:00 |
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| cubevector | I never use yahoo either, but that's good to know | Sep 02 00:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | MS can sue businesses in China and make some small change. But the masses, can buy Windows/Office for a buck on the street corner. It will be impossible for MS to stamp that out. | Sep 02 00:01 |
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| cubevector | some ISPs use yahoo for webmail | Sep 02 00:01 |
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| cubevector | they should just use red flag | Sep 02 00:02 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | They will, in time. | Sep 02 00:02 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Now, if Bing in China is such a cash cow, (which it isn't) then why woud Microsoft want partners? The anwser is, MS loses money on Bing in China, so wants partners to bankroll its losses. | Sep 02 00:10 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | This is why its current partner in Red China for Bing, is probably leaving the partnership, and MS is looking for another (sucker) partner. | Sep 02 00:11 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But they paint it up with PR as MS is looking to become number 1 with partners. | Sep 02 00:12 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | *would | Sep 02 00:13 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | typo | Sep 02 00:13 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | You don't see MS looking for partners on its cash cows Windows or Office. They only want partners to bear the burdons of losses on projects that fail. or during startup where losses will occur. | Sep 02 00:15 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | 'end of rant' | Sep 02 00:17 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | So have you let DaemonFC back in yet? | Sep 02 00:20 |
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| ThistleWeb | if he ever gets back we'll know the definition of "permanent" is not what many expect it to be | Sep 02 00:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Unigine Announces Its OilRush Game For Linux http://ur1.ca/1f5z3 "Will this be the best Linux native game we see in 2010?" | Sep 02 00:21 |
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| ThistleWeb | for me it comes down to "is schestowitz a man of his word or not" | Sep 02 00:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | well, I have not read the logs in days now, so its was just a question. | Sep 02 00:22 |
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| ThistleWeb | to be fair the odd time I see him try to come in here he is kicked straight away | Sep 02 00:23 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | ttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/yahoo-loses-key-south-korea-partnership-2010-09-01?reflink=MW_news_stmp | Sep 02 00:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Yahoo Inc. disclosed Wednesday that South Korean partner NHN Corp., which operates the country's most popular search engine, has decided to stop using Yahoo's search advertising service in November." | Sep 02 00:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "In a research note sent to clients, Barclays Capital analyst Douglas Anmuth said that NHN's decision to bring its own search advertising "in-house" will cost Yahoo as much as 10% of its gross revenue next year, while reducing net revenue -- sales minus payments made to other sites to draw traffic -- by between 1% and 2%" | Sep 02 00:29 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "NHN's Naver search service holds a roughly 65% share of the South Korean market, according to Anmuth, which is roughly equivalent to that of market leader Google Inc. in the U.S." | Sep 02 00:29 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | wow, 10% of Yahoo's revenue? | Sep 02 00:30 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | major loss thanks to the Bing deal with MS and Yahoo. Guess Yang was right. | Sep 02 00:30 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but thats only 1% I think overall loss for Yahoo | Sep 02 00:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | so if both Japan and South Korea bolt the Yahoo/Bing cartel, who profits from this? Google? | Sep 02 00:33 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Looks like Ballmer is failing again | Sep 02 00:33 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "NHN's decision "represents another hit to the Yahoo-Microsoft search alliance as it reduces the ultimate scale opportunity," Anmuth wrote." | Sep 02 00:34 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Bloomberg says less than 1% of Yahoo's overall profits. | Sep 02 00:35 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is likely more than what Yahoo got from MS out of the deal. | Sep 02 00:36 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/09/01/businessinsider-yahoo-clobbered-again-as-south-koreas-naver-search-cusotm-quits-and-takes-600-million-of-revenue-with-it-2010-9.DTL | Sep 02 00:38 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I wonder what Yahoo world wide search market share will be when both Japan and South Korea search are lost to it? | Sep 02 00:41 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Yahoo, will shrink. | Sep 02 00:42 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Yahoo, is dieing. | Sep 02 00:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @linuxfund At the Oregon State Fair. Surprised by how many people are using Linux or have heard of it. "My dad put on my computer." : ... | Sep 02 00:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/08/31/yahoo-to-lose-major-ad-deal-in-south-korea | Sep 02 00:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Indeed, NHN CEO Kim Sang Hun stated according to Jun Yang, "We desperately need an advertising platform that's more flexible and effective, with closer ties to the local market to respond to advertisers' expectations promptly."" | Sep 02 00:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "And making the matter worse for Yahoo is the fact that some investors seem to agree, sending NHN's stock up following the announcement." | Sep 02 00:49 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Jun Yang even wrote, "[Yahoo's] Overture may lose all its business in South Korea's 1 trillion won ($836 million) online advertising market as it is replaced with local technologies, said Choi Chan Seok, a Seoul-based analyst at KTB Securities."" | Sep 02 00:50 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Anyway, Yahoo's contract with NHN is set to expire later this year." | Sep 02 00:50 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | At this rate I wonder how long before carol bartz is shown the door at Yahoo. | Sep 02 00:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft is Said to Have Had an Anti-OpenOffice.org Seminar on Monday (Updated) http://tinyurl.com/2vm2dgx !linux !foss !windows !microsoft | Sep 02 01:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] watching @bkuhn's !GPLv3 talk at GUADEC. http://ur1.ca/1f9x1 http://ur1.ca/1f9xa #webm | Sep 02 01:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wrongfully Accused Of File-Sharing? File For Harassment http://tinyurl.com/37hxhph !tpb !bittorrent !piratepartyuk !acslaw | Sep 02 01:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Unigine Announces Its OilRush Game For Linux http://ur1.ca/1f5z3 "Will this be the best Linux native game we see in 2010?" | Sep 02 02:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @zoobab UPLS and EU-EPLA seminar by Arcelor Chair, Brussels, Fri 24 Sep, software patents in the EU http://ur1.ca/1evil | Sep 02 02:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Microsoft Uses Linux to 'Succeed' http://techrights.org/2010/09/01/microsoft-loves-linux-racketeering/ | Sep 02 02:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @floeff: "Oracle veep backs software revolution at historic anniversary OpenOffice.org global conference" http://ur1.ca/1esth !ooo !ooocon | Sep 02 02:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn great talk.I's going to ask @fontana, while listening, about the 'GPLv3 patent § implicit in GPLv2+',but it's good that u answered it | Sep 02 03:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @rms fans in India.. He will be there for the next week. !gorms :) | Sep 02 03:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak @bkuhn and I like to debate whether GPLv2 section 6 or 7 is the best basis for the GPLv2 implied patent license :-) | Sep 02 03:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana but really, do you think GPLv2+ code grants a solid-in-court GPLv3 patent license? | Sep 02 03:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak may have misread your original dent. Is issue whether distributor of "GPLv2 or later" grants patent licenses specified in GPLv3? | Sep 02 04:56 |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Sep 02 05:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Jonathan Zuck does not claim to be an Italian girl." | Sep 02 05:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Jonathan Zuck doesn't ask his clients: How was my performance?" | Sep 02 05:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Jonathan Zuck is not known to be a former communist.' | Sep 02 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | "He is a real personality, not the usual sincere lobbyist, and he delivers his talking points." | Sep 02 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | "He does not smell "tobacco", and he has to earn a living as everyone else." | Sep 02 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | "ACT are just a journo-lobby front group" | Sep 02 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | "For media it is a bit like quoting the ambassador of Iran or North Korea. No one gets deceived http://bigthink.com/ideas/22892 " | Sep 02 05:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Just got an e-mail from #Twitter about #OAuth and URL-shortening changes. Actually sounds good, but will it interfere with URL-shorteners? | Sep 02 05:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ... and what about apps which have not yet been updated? Does #Twitter have some #OAuth libraries and working examples? | Sep 02 05:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 I too have been burned by #Twitter 's move to #OAuth . I am relieved to see it's not just me. | Sep 02 05:41 |
| schestowitz | mohanpram: "same here, apps need to implement it." | Sep 02 05:44 |
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| schestowitz | Identica will gain from it | Sep 02 05:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @lnxwalt140 Or should app developers expect a different OAuth for each service they support? | Sep 02 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @mairin: a bit more about Caroline - http://ur1.ca/1fj1q - do you think #fedora should target her? | Sep 02 06:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Is Forbes trying to start yet another war? http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/24/iran-nuclear-weapon-oil-opinions-columnists-melik-kaylan.html | Sep 02 06:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] (I'm not implying that Forbes has started others, but that we're just getting out of one and going deeper in a second already.) | Sep 02 06:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I still think the Gnu gnu should be named Iggy. #iggyformascot | Sep 02 06:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Speculation & trepidation in the writing community about self publishing. In the words of the inimitable Nero Wolfe: "Phooey" !selfpub | Sep 02 06:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Can programming language names be #trademarks? Essay by my colleague Pam Chestek http://ur1.ca/1fkal | Sep 02 06:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @robynmcintyre AJ Liebling said, "Freedom of the Press belongs to those who own one." Now we can all own one. #litchat !write !selfpub | Sep 02 06:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter E-mail on 2/9:"Starting August 31, all applications will be required to use “OAuth” to access your Twitter account." too late #fail | Sep 02 06:41 |
| schestowitz | "@mohanpram the one I use is likely to never implement it, so I rely on alternatives (lots of work!!)" | Sep 02 06:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Says Choose Microsoft to Avoid Lock-in http://ur1.ca/1flbz #vmware #novell #lockin #vmworld | Sep 02 06:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Novell Inc (NOVL) Received an Offer in Early March and Has Yet to Announce a Deal.” http://ur1.ca/1flu5 #novell #takeover | Sep 02 07:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Help catch Valero Energy's attention http://ur1.ca/1flxl | Sep 02 07:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Argh! The Severed Fifth PA died and we need a new one to rehearse! Can you help? http://tinyurl.com/sfneedpa #severedfifth | Sep 02 07:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I'm planning to wipe this computer tomorrow, to replace Linux #Mint #KDE 8 and #Xubuntu 9.10 with Mint KDE 9 and #Fedora 13. | Sep 02 07:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Now Worth Almost 3.5 Times What #Novell is Worth http://ur1.ca/1fnlw !linux #ballnux #server | Sep 02 07:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Excellent @ZeroPaid !Billc32 interview... "protect technological measures in the correct laws"~ @russellmcormond !q http://www.ur1.ca/1fnq8 | Sep 02 07:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #RedHat Now Worth Almost 3.5 Times What #Novell is Worth http://ur1.ca/1fnlw !linux #ballnux #server | Sep 02 07:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hay-what? - http://bit.ly/d15xCM piece rightly sceptical about security by obscurity #iran #security | Sep 02 08:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Help defend abortion rights http://ur1.ca/1foa5 | Sep 02 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chacona, Lamento, Walking Blues: A Spotify Playlist - http://bit.ly/csDGU7 more, interesting cross-cultural links #music #spotify | Sep 02 08:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bloomberg Gets the Facts Wrong About #SCO and #Novell http://ur1.ca/1fokk #unix #scox !linux #ibm | Sep 02 08:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Keeping Government Out of Cocktails - http://bit.ly/cPGY3K well put #intellectualmonopolies #cocktails | Sep 02 08:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Breed of Patent Claim Bedevils Product Makers - http://bit.ly/aamGkr bizarre #patents | Sep 02 08:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz Dude! Bloomberg wrote about “Murray's law” summarizing someone talking about “Moore's law” yesterday afternoon. losers! | Sep 02 08:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Microsoft Missed The Disruptive Innovation In Paid Search - http://bit.ly/9Sogoj fascinating tale with a moral #innovation #search | Sep 02 08:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz as if Bill Murray had acted in “Honey, I shrank the transistors!”. Bloomberg should have made it “Moranis' Law” ;-P | Sep 02 08:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twitter plans to record all links clicked - http://bit.ly/9BUfcg so just switch to 3rd-party URL shorteners, no? #twitter #privacy | Sep 02 08:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arduino Projects: Getting Started - http://bit.ly/d6X1iN handy intro to top open hardware project #arduino #openhardware | Sep 02 08:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva I mostly resent them for the puff pieces they do for rich American companies (like Michael's) | Sep 02 08:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's True, #Android is Not Free (Because of #Microsoft Patent Extortion) http://ur1.ca/1fpih #swpats !linux | Sep 02 08:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Benjamin Humphrey: OMG! Ubuntu! gets a facelift http://goo.gl/Tzpd !OMG, it runs on WordPress! | Sep 02 08:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz oh, come on! why would they even think of doing such things? :-P :-/ | Sep 02 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @richslxh ┌П┐(•_•)┌П┐ To Microsoft for patenting the Shutdown process http://tinyurl.com/3y6eqfl !linux !fsfe !fsf #patent | Sep 02 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Valve is Looking For Someone Who Can "Port Windows Games to Linux" http://goo.gl/ROcU | Sep 02 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody @macno I expect a few problems in case. Hint: "tying". And I would *immediately* quit the service a/way. | Sep 02 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @carlopiana yes, that was my feeling too | Sep 02 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Maverick Beta hits tomorrow http://goo.gl/g6mX | Sep 02 08:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Banshee 1.7.5 released with improved hardware support http://goo.gl/Y36r | Sep 02 08:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @richslxh: ┌П┐(•_•)┌П┐ To Microsoft for patenting the Shutdown process http://tinyurl.com/3y6eqfl < ROTFL - stop #swpats! | Sep 02 08:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I'm still not feeling very well. Maybe a hot #Nescafe helps... | Sep 02 09:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Novell Laboratories” and Patent Extortion Against Generic Drugs http://ur1.ca/1fq98 #patents #generic #acta #uspto | Sep 02 09:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Andy Coulson discussed phone hacking at News of the World, report claims - http://bit.ly/dCSyTi can Twitter make this mainstream? #MetGate | Sep 02 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow! A dog barking Batman! I think that's the most awesome thing I have ever seen in my entire life: http://goo.gl/P6QC | Sep 02 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody it seems that my thoughts on URL shorteners (http://piana.eu/short ) were sort of prohpetic | Sep 02 09:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @carlopiana yup - good analysis | Sep 02 09:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Getting our carpets professionally cleaned today, so the living room is a no-go zone until its dry.... | Sep 02 09:26 |
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| _Goblin | anything happening this morning? | Sep 02 09:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Foreworld as Foretaste - http://bit.ly/bhLc4Z is Neal Stephenson inventing the new, DRM-less novel form of the future? #mongoliad | Sep 02 09:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Looks to #Communism for Answers http://techrights.org/2010/09/02/turning-to-chinese-help/ #china #xbox | Sep 02 09:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @mustard !mustard 0.1.9.6-1 is out, it fixes a bug in replies timeline. Thanks @gotunandan @chriswaterguy for reporting! | Sep 02 09:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !mustard 0.1.9.6-1 rocks on !android | Sep 02 09:41 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Sep 02 09:57 |
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| oiaohm | Hi MinceR | Sep 02 09:58 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/PostgreSQL-9-0-s-first-release-candidate-arrives-1070549.html This is interesting | Sep 02 09:58 |
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| oiaohm | PostgreSQL taking serous interest in replicaiton at long lat. | Sep 02 09:59 |
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| oiaohm | lat/last | Sep 02 09:59 |
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| MinceR | longcat | Sep 02 09:59 |
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| _Goblin | hi MinceR | Sep 02 10:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A Software Freedom Day event in Italy: http://is.gd/eR7Tw -- in the wonderful Perugia. | Sep 02 10:11 |
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| oiaohm | http://newteevee.com/2010/08/31/video-flash-on-android-is-startlingly-bad/ | Sep 02 10:16 |
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| MinceR | flash is startingly/shockingly bad on any platform | Sep 02 10:19 |
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| nenolod | the flash player source uses ints as pointers still | Sep 02 10:24 |
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| nenolod | the x86-64 port just changed all ints to long | Sep 02 10:25 |
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| nenolod | i wish i were joking | Sep 02 10:25 |
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| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 10:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Insanity of #Microsoft Patents and the Insanity of 'Green' Patents http://ur1.ca/1ft9y #swpats #globalwarming | Sep 02 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Nomination for the Nordic !freesoftware award is now open http://ur1.ca/1ft9o !fsfe !gnu !fs people, submit proposals! | Sep 02 10:26 |
| oiaohm | So they are bad coders who don't use * and & correctly nenolod | Sep 02 10:26 |
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| oiaohm | That has been a good thing in recent years nenolod gcc has started spitting chips when someone uses pointers wrong. | Sep 02 10:28 |
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| MinceR | they're hideously bad coders who fail at every task and whine about how they're impossible. meanwhile, everyone and their dog does those tasks successfully | Sep 02 10:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could this Lawsuit Undermine the GNU GPL? - http://bit.ly/awbFUx potentially *very* nasty #gnu #gpl #licensing #embedded | Sep 02 10:36 |
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| oiaohm | So far every rare case against GPL has landed on the side of GPL. | Sep 02 10:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Brazil is putting an end to the ‘war on copying,’ at R$ 3,00 per month - http://bit.ly/afDper interesting move (via @technollama) #sharing | Sep 02 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] question: anyone know of games consoles that use GPL'd code? | Sep 02 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Saved the Bush Family From Embarrassment http://techrights.org/2010/09/02/crucial-data-lost-in-exchange-move/ | Sep 02 10:41 |
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| oiaohm | Exchanges design causes data loss | Sep 02 10:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Watchtower just rang my doorbell; I *do* love it when they say, "well, I must be going" after I've talked to them about evolution for 30'... | Sep 02 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Could this Lawsuit Undermine the GNU GPL? - http://bit.ly/awbFUx <nice post, slightly FUD-ish headline? ;-) | Sep 02 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Play .mkv and .xvid Video Files on Your Android Phone With RockPlayer - Linux Magazine Online http://ow.ly/2ynVG | Sep 02 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wireless problem with Broadcom chipset in Ubuntu 10.10 http://ping.fm/rMaxk | Sep 02 10:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh ┌П┐(•_•)┌П┐ To #Microsoft for patenting the Shutdown process http://tinyurl.com/3y6eqfl !linux #swpats #patent | Sep 02 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @toros but #Banshee is #Mono Trojan from #Novell #microsoft #swpats #mcp | Sep 02 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AT&T calls net neutrality advocate a conspiracy theorist - http://bit.ly/beKgtr how are the mighty fallen #netneutrality | Sep 02 10:56 |
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| schestowitz | [09:30] <_Goblin> anything happening this morning? | Sep 02 10:56 |
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| schestowitz | Some dude getting his carpets sucks | Sep 02 10:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody @carlopiana shorteners in general are bad (for preservation) | Sep 02 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blair Almost Ordered London Plane Shot Down On 9/11 - http://bit.ly/c7eDRG credit where credit is due: one thing he got right #blair | Sep 02 11:01 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: Its going on now! | Sep 02 11:03 |
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| schestowitz | WHAT? I CAN'T HHHHEERE U. | Sep 02 11:03 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: wow....what a difference, since our dog passed away the amount of dirt in the carpet is amazing... | Sep 02 11:03 |
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| schestowitz | And then 2 kids left | Sep 02 11:04 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: yep... | Sep 02 11:04 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: talking of which, they are back with us this weekend | Sep 02 11:04 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: sort of mixed feelings since the wife gets upset when they have to go. | Sep 02 11:04 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: nice for Daniel though to play with them... | Sep 02 11:05 |
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| schestowitz | But they are older | Sep 02 11:05 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: yeah....but still have more energy than me. | Sep 02 11:05 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: When you left, I told daniel Roy is on a plane....he now points at planes and says "Roy" "Plane" | Sep 02 11:06 |
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| _Goblin | now that you have the honoury title of "Uncle Roy" you better not forget his birthday! | Sep 02 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | Uncle Fester | Sep 02 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | He's not afraid of him | Sep 02 11:08 |
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| _Goblin | thats Ballmer...and he's not welcome in our house! | Sep 02 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | Mono photo caption says so | Sep 02 11:09 |
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| _Goblin | yep.... | Sep 02 11:09 |
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| _Goblin | he's going to write for TechRIGHTs when he's older (Daniel) that is. | Sep 02 11:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Sharing Economy - http://bit.ly/c4iFya the meme spreads (via @rachelbotsman @hirethings) #sharing | Sep 02 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana maybe the headline from @glynmoody was changed by the editor (they love doing it) | Sep 02 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 21 Ridiculously Impressive HTML5 Canvas Experiments | Nettuts+ http://ow.ly/2yoeh | Sep 02 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz: preservation is one of the concerns for URLshort. SPOF and privacy, competition also play a role. OTOH, they're damn useful. | Sep 02 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz thanks for trying to save my reputation, but it was all my own lazy work... | Sep 02 11:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The ABCD of Open Scholarship - http://bit.ly/99m4K9 it really is that easy #openaccess #openbibliography #opencitations #opendata | Sep 02 11:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz yeah, not a big deal anyway. We are discussing this -- for strange reasons on Twitter only... | Sep 02 11:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Case For Open-Source Design: Can Design By Committee Work? - http://bit.ly/98CGLG good discussion of key issues #opensource #design | Sep 02 11:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @stephwho Spread the word! @koenigintherese, @koenigludwigi & @bavaria report on the Oktoberfest... | Sep 02 11:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Galaxy Tab unveiled as Samsung's first tablet computer - http://bbc.in/ctLain #Android, course #tablet (via @jackschofield @JohnMNBarnes) | Sep 02 11:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody Steve Ballmer must be happy too, he makes money from this Android tablet. I still think we should wait for other tablets #ballnux | Sep 02 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This was the year of desktop !Linux http://ur1.ca/1fvzi "The year of beef on the table," as Penguin Pete said | Sep 02 11:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2 Smart Backup Apps Show You the Way to Go Home http://ur1.ca/1fw0j "After I moved into the !Linux desktop, I became much less paranoid.." | Sep 02 11:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 Providers of Pre Installed !Linux Laptops/PC's http://ur1.ca/1fw9g "If I missed [...] please do share in the comments below." | Sep 02 11:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Choice is bad" FUD alert: The trouble with Linux: there's too much choice http://ur1.ca/1fwds OK, let's have one car brand _only_ | Sep 02 11:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Happy Beta day everyone! http://goo.gl/38iz !ubuntu | Sep 02 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to Use !KDE Plasma Activities http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01 Unleashing the power of the K | Sep 02 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] via @macno, @andyc GoGear http://ur1.ca/1fwaq an almost entirely !freesoftware Philips alt. to iPod touch. Take that #apple (finger) | Sep 02 11:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Comment: The hype is over http://ur1.ca/1fwmo Explains well how 'open' core (proprietary) causes damage | Sep 02 12:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re Ukraine and Linux, there's Microsoft's role too: http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/ms-vs-ukraine-linux-foss/ | Sep 02 12:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eight !Linux Tech Tips for Beginners http://ur1.ca/1fwuc "7.) Linux is not Windows. " | Sep 02 12:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Samsung announce an Android tablet http://bbc.in/dvP3FW | Sep 02 12:16 |
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| oiaohm | MS cannot afford countries proveing they are not required. | Sep 02 12:17 |
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| nenolod | 04:21:52 oiaohm:> So they are bad coders who don't use * and & correctly nenolod // no. it's just that macromedia are a bunch of morons, and adobe hasn't bothered to rewrite flash because they do not see the need as gnash, etc are considerably worse | Sep 02 12:19 |
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| nenolod | actual adobe software, as in, software made by adobe is of decent code quality | Sep 02 12:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pogoplug ships simple business !Linux server http://ur1.ca/1fxfs Good for avoiding #FogComputing | Sep 02 12:21 |
| nenolod | at least, acroread was before it got shipped off to india for maintenance | Sep 02 12:21 |
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| nenolod | internally at adobe, macromedia is still a very separate thing | Sep 02 12:24 |
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| oiaohm | nenolod: Ok bad coders in the macromedia department. | Sep 02 12:25 |
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| nenolod | i know for a fact that acroread 7 was a solid product ;) | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| nenolod | then they laid off everyone and shipped it to india | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Release: !KDE Partition Manager Live CD 1.0.3 http://ur1.ca/1fxkm looks very modern and polished !gnu !linux | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| oiaohm | The open source flash products are getting closer. | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| nenolod | flash | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| nenolod | needs to just die | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| nenolod | honestly | Sep 02 12:26 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| oiaohm | It is dieing. | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| oiaohm | but remember open source still has freedos | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| oiaohm | We like keeping historic bits alive to annoy the hell out of people | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| nenolod | anyway | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| nenolod | a lot of people at adobe were like "why the fuck are we buying this garbage" about macromedia | Sep 02 12:27 |
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| nenolod | that was a crap job | Sep 02 12:28 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: freedos is great for playing old dos games | Sep 02 12:29 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: MS-DOS crashes for me | Sep 02 12:29 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: i think the multicore CPU fucks it up | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| nenolod | i have no idea though | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| nenolod | i don't particularly care either: see freedos | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| oiaohm | Old MS-DOS stuff was not design to support multi core | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| oiaohm | Yes it does send it nuts. | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| MinceR | dosbox ships with freedos, iirc :> | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| oiaohm | Dosbox old dos applications is safer. | Sep 02 12:30 |
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| oiaohm | If you want the worst way to run dos completely. | Sep 02 12:31 |
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| oiaohm | Try using wine built in dos support | Sep 02 12:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source PS3 hack code posted http://ur1.ca/1fxrj If Sony can root(kit) people's HDDs w/o permission, why can't we get !Linux back? | Sep 02 12:31 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: frankly PS3 linux is a giant waste of time | Sep 02 12:33 |
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| nenolod | the thing only has 512MB of RAM | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| oiaohm | Not really nenolod | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: well, ok | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| nenolod | it's not a waste of time if you want to run code on a cell processor | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| oiaohm | The cell processor is particularly good at dna processing | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| nenolod | but it's otherwise a waste of time | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| oiaohm | PS3 is a very cheep cell processor. | Sep 02 12:34 |
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| nenolod | cell is dead anyway | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | ibm binned it | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| oiaohm | Biggest issues was that the GPU was off limits. | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | ok | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| oiaohm | The Cell chip + the ps3 gpu would have been way nicer. | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | i'm tired of hearing people bitch about that | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | you're all fucking *clueless* | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | PS3 games | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | do not | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | use the GPU | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | for graphics | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| nenolod | it's only there for PhysX acceleration | Sep 02 12:35 |
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| oiaohm | Really some do. | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| nenolod | no, none do | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| nenolod | there are no apis to access the GPU | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| nenolod | zero, zip, zilch, nada | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| nenolod | libGEMGL does it all in software on an SPE | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| nenolod | and most games now use libraytrace, which also does it in software on an SPE | Sep 02 12:36 |
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| schestowitz | [12:21] <nenolod> at least, acroread was before it got shipped off to india for maintenance | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Around version 6 | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | I remember | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: version 7 | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | You could see the names in credits | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: post GtkMM rewrite | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, after 6 or so | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Some Indian bloggers I read pointed this out | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Vista was also developed in India | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | And Vista 7 perhaps too (not fully) | Sep 02 12:37 |
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| nenolod | the only windows i am familiar with is XP | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| oiaohm | Most people are not aware of that. | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| nenolod | which wasn't too horrible | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| nenolod | not my cup of tea | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | At least acroread came to Linux with parity around then | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| oiaohm | Most closed source software has moved to india. | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | [12:26] <nenolod> needs to just die | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| oiaohm | Reason india is cheeper. | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: modern acroread is bloated crap - but hey, you lot invented poppler in the meantime so all's well :p | Sep 02 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | Flash is some junk that tells video how to 'connect' to the Web page (badly) and start playback | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| MinceR | sadly, there are at least a couple pdf files poppler reads differently | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| schestowitz | That's all it's 'good' for | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| MinceR | "portable" document format | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: anymore yes. | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| nenolod | schestowitz: HTML5's capabilities match and exceed flash in all other problem domains | Sep 02 12:39 |
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| schestowitz | When will YouTUbe give webm options for all videos? | Sep 02 12:41 |
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| nenolod | you're barking up the wrong tree there | Sep 02 12:41 |
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| nenolod | other than crashing at a google employee's pad few weeks ago, i don't have anything to do with them :p | Sep 02 12:42 |
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| nenolod | i want to stab florian in the face honestly | Sep 02 12:42 |
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| nenolod | he's being somewhat obnoxious | Sep 02 12:42 |
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| nenolod | i mean, yes, eben moglen has done some things that are downright insulting to non-GPL open source authors, but he's hardly a communist | Sep 02 12:43 |
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| nenolod | (that said, eben has published a strategy about converting BSD/ISC code into GPL code some time ago, and that was totally not cool of him to do) | Sep 02 12:44 |
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| oiaohm | Really the battle between Linux and BSD has been over BSD end up inside GPL and being extended. | Sep 02 12:45 |
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| oiaohm | But due to GPL not being able to return to the BSD world. | Sep 02 12:45 |
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| nenolod | i think if you take BSD code | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| nenolod | and you extend it | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| oiaohm | And that was before eben published a strategy about converting BSD/ISC into GPL. | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| nenolod | you should not be slapping the GPL on it | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @robmyers Nina Paley asks Cory Doctorow why he uses an NC licence (good for her!) - http://blog.ninapaley.com/2010/09/01/paley-vs-doc ... | Sep 02 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The one thing samsung learned from Apple: make it overpriced. #fail IMHO | Sep 02 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Too late been done. | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| nenolod | this makes you an "asshole" who does not respect the wishes of the original author | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| nenolod | yes, it has been done. i'm saying it's an uncouth practice | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| oiaohm | The author has no issue with you doing the same with a closed source program. | Sep 02 12:46 |
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| oiaohm | So why is GPL any different. | Sep 02 12:47 |
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| MinceR | depends on the author | Sep 02 12:47 |
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| oiaohm | If the auther does not want you altering the licence they should use a licence that prevents it nenolod | Sep 02 12:47 |
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| oiaohm | Other wise stiff biskets. | Sep 02 12:47 |
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| MinceR | there's no perfect license though | Sep 02 12:47 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: i just protect my code from GPL zealots by backing it with 240gbit of transit capacity | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| oiaohm | Thinking that BSD complain about GPL lack of means to be taken by closed source. | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| nenolod | it's called "denial of service" | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| oiaohm | nenolod: sorry you cannot have it. | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| oiaohm | Calling GPL people zealots is wrong. | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| MinceR | it's not possible to allow usage in code with different free/OS licenses (including weak copyleft and permissive ones) while disallowing usage in nonfree code, afaik | Sep 02 12:48 |
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| nenolod | meaning, if you take code i have written that is non-GPL | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | and you make it GPL | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | well | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | hope you can afford to take a lot of unwanted traffic | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| oiaohm | If you release code under BSD you should expect people to take it and licence it wrapped under something else. | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | this is how the BSD community works | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | you fuck us, we packet your ass | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| MinceR | the BSD community is a bunch of DoS kiddies? | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | serious | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| MinceR | good to know | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| oiaohm | Sorry closed source companies take BSD code alter and never give back. nenolod | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| _Goblin | lol... | Sep 02 12:49 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: this is true | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| nenolod | i am just trolling anyway | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| _Goblin | at least youre honest | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| nenolod | i do think | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| _Goblin | I don't think you are trolling... | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| nenolod | that while it is legal to do so, it is uncouth to change the license on BSD code | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| oiaohm | As I put it if you release under BSD and the code gets wrapped up inside a GPL program you should be thinking lucky you can still see the changes. | Sep 02 12:50 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: i just consider the code in question "still under BSD license" | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| oiaohm | If the same happend with closed soure the changes would be hidden. | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| oiaohm | BSD licence does not auto spreed to alterations. nenolod | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| oiaohm | The licence is flawed. | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] All gadget sites have morphed into Apple promo outlets. Sad. #fail | Sep 02 12:51 |
| MinceR | not necessarily flawed, just lacking a certain protection | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| MinceR | sometimes that's what you want, sometimes it isn't | Sep 02 12:51 |
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| oiaohm | Now if BSD had like GPL auto spreeding. | Sep 02 12:52 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: it's never been an issue | Sep 02 12:52 |
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| oiaohm | The issue of alterations locking the code away it would never happen. | Sep 02 12:52 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: if someone asserts they want their patch to be GPL, i just rewrite it | Sep 02 12:52 |
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| oiaohm | Like Linux kernel submitters some of they have to submit under GPL by company requirements. nenolod | Sep 02 12:52 |
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| nenolod | that said, i've worked on GPL code before, and do now | Sep 02 12:53 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: in some cases, if they have to be under GPL, i do not want their changes | Sep 02 12:53 |
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| oiaohm | In my eyes no point being upset by BSS wraped events. | Sep 02 12:53 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: it all comes down to what you're trying to do | Sep 02 12:53 |
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| oiaohm | BSD wrapped events. | Sep 02 12:53 |
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| oiaohm | At least GPL and other open source licences you can see what was done and do it another way solving the problem. | Sep 02 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | Now closed source you don't know what they changed so are worse off. | Sep 02 12:54 |
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| nenolod | i don't care about closed source apps | Sep 02 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | Yet you don't see BSD yelling about that. | Sep 02 12:54 |
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| nenolod | they can do whatever the fuck they wish | Sep 02 12:54 |
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| oiaohm | Yep so Open source developers who like different licences can do whatever the fuck they wish as well. | Sep 02 12:55 |
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| oiaohm | Other wise you are a bias bit of work. | Sep 02 12:55 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: i do not care about them putting it in a GPL app as long as they are willing to allow the specific patches to be contributed back as BSD. | Sep 02 12:55 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: if they refuse, they are disrespectful | Sep 02 12:55 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: the closed source people are also disrespectful | Sep 02 12:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #RHT stock price YoY is +60% - wow. #impressed | Sep 02 12:56 |
| nenolod | there are commercial reasons to use BSD license over GPL too, and vice versa | Sep 02 12:56 |
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| oiaohm | Yet lot of BSD people use the right not to return alterations for closed source as a selling point. | Sep 02 12:56 |
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| nenolod | my selling point on ISC license is | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| nenolod | "it's so simple a kid can understand it" | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| nenolod | i have used GPL before | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| nenolod | i use GPL on things i want protection on | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| MinceR | interesting | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| nenolod | but for things i do not care about | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| oiaohm | Note wrapping events have not only been GPL over BSD. | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| MinceR | so you hate reuse under GPL, but you don't mind reuse in nonfree code? | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| nenolod | or things that are not a big deal | Sep 02 12:57 |
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| oiaohm | There are a few MPL project and others that wrap over BSD | Sep 02 12:58 |
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| oiaohm | That result in the same problem of no return to BSD. | Sep 02 12:58 |
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| nenolod | MinceR: i don't care about reuse under GPL | Sep 02 12:58 |
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| nenolod | MinceR: that said, it is nice to do a dual-license | Sep 02 12:58 |
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| nenolod | for those specific components | Sep 02 12:58 |
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| oiaohm | LGPL Was designed to halfway a lot. | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| nenolod | the way ath5k was handled was very disrespectful | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| oiaohm | Allow closed source usage and protect alterations. | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| MinceR | ic | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| oiaohm | atk5k issue was way more complex. nenolod | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| nenolod | ath5k was handled by a GPL+BSD dual-licensing | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| nenolod | i think that is a good solution | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| oiaohm | One of the developers patching was not allowed to release under non GPL licenses. | Sep 02 12:59 |
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| nenolod | well | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| nenolod | his company | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| oiaohm | So yes patches had to be removed and rewriten. | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| nenolod | sucks | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| oiaohm | To get to the GPL+BSD duel-licensing. | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| nenolod | i think requiring all contributions to be GPL | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| nenolod | is disrespectful to opensource | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| oiaohm | No. | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| nenolod | opensource is more than GPL/GNU/etc | Sep 02 13:00 |
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| oiaohm | Not all companies want there resources take by competiton and altered to being incompadible. | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| nenolod | a person should be able to contribute to a project | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | Remember the SMB protocal by sun. nenolod | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| nenolod | UNDER WHATEVER LICENSE IT IS ALREADY ON | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | And other protocals MS Nicked off with and altered. | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | There are a lot of companies out there once bitten twice shy. nenolod | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | And they have very good reasons. | Sep 02 13:01 |
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| nenolod | yes, i understand the reasons why a company would require gpl contribution | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| nenolod | however | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| nenolod | they shouldn't patch | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| nenolod | if they wish to play that way | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| oiaohm | When it a case they need it working. | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| oiaohm | And others need it working and they have the patch. | Sep 02 13:02 |
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| nenolod | then they should make an exception | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| oiaohm | Short term tranfer across to GPL is better than bugs. | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| nenolod | disagree | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| oiaohm | Until people who can BSD coders can make a different version. | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| nenolod | document what is needed to fix and offer a GPL patch | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| oiaohm | Heck if it was closed source you would have never seen the patch at all. | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| nenolod | do not include GPL patch in kernel | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| nenolod | this is simple | Sep 02 13:03 |
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| oiaohm | Some of the patches were required. | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| nenolod | then no ath5k | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| oiaohm | All the kernel would kernel panic using the driver. | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| oiaohm | Not a suitable out come when you work out how much ath5k are out there. | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| nenolod | i think it is | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| oiaohm | No its not. | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| nenolod | mister gpl douchebag could have made a stand and quit his job | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| MinceR | users aren't necessarily satisfied by the "no ath5k" solution, though :> | Sep 02 13:04 |
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| oiaohm | Just because BSD coders have not kept up with bugs. | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| oiaohm | why should users suffer. | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| MinceR | if he quits his job, there's a good chance his next job won't let him contribute at all, though | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| nenolod | sucks | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| oiaohm | Heck most of the patch was Linux particular and not usable by BSD anyhow. | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| MinceR | (at least here in hungary it's hard to find a job at a FLOSS company) | Sep 02 13:05 |
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| oiaohm | Simple fact the Linux world was more than willing to work to a solution. nenolod | Sep 02 13:06 |
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| oiaohm | That would help the BSD people out long term. | Sep 02 13:07 |
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| oiaohm | They had no legal requirement to assist at all. | Sep 02 13:07 |
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| nenolod | they did have the legal requirement to preserve the BSD+copyright notices | Sep 02 13:07 |
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| nenolod | they can tack the GPL onto it, but they had to preserve the notices and they did not | Sep 02 13:07 |
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| oiaohm | Funny enough particular version of FreeBSD had the BSD copyright notices missing off the files as well. nenolod | Sep 02 13:08 |
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| nenolod | well | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | It was a importered bug. nenolod | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| nenolod | they are in violation! | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| nenolod | whatever, it got fixed | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | The code was uploaded by the BSD author himself. | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | Yes bug. | Sep 02 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | And once the Linux people came aware of bug it got fixed very quickly. | Sep 02 13:10 |
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| oiaohm | It was not a case of Linux people removing the copyright notices. | Sep 02 13:10 |
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| oiaohm | Murphy had a field day with the ath5k | Sep 02 13:11 |
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| oiaohm | Yes files missing there tags of start line is not something you expect to have happened. | Sep 02 13:11 |
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| nenolod | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/audacious-2-4-0-new-release/ | Sep 02 13:11 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Audacious 2.4.0 New release! « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Sep 02 13:11 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: there's a lot of morons who troll about audacious | Sep 02 13:12 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: most of them are butthurt because $distro removed XMMS | Sep 02 13:12 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: just do what we do (audacious devs) and direct them to QMMP | Sep 02 13:12 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: QMMP seems to actually want to clone XMMS so :p | Sep 02 13:12 |
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| oiaohm | nenolod: you will find gnome people don't like QMMP and want XMMS back so they don't have the QT in there system. | Sep 02 13:14 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: audacious does have the skinnedui option still | Sep 02 13:14 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: most people seem happy with it, except for like a very small vocal majority that have no lives | Sep 02 13:14 |
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| oiaohm | Even that I don't give a rats about what toolkit application uses as long as it does my task. | Sep 02 13:14 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: man i have gotten death threats over audacious | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| oiaohm | Sometimes I think some gnome supports are only minorally better than apple fans. | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: from a diaper-wearing furry | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| oiaohm | I am a kde user nenolod | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| nenolod | he sent me emails about how he was "going to fuck me up" for "making gentoo remove XMMS" | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| nenolod | i was quite amused when i started reading his livejournal | Sep 02 13:15 |
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| nenolod | the best part is | Sep 02 13:16 |
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| nenolod | i had nothing to do with gentoo's decision to remove XMMS | Sep 02 13:16 |
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| nenolod | haha | Sep 02 13:16 |
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| _Goblin | nenolod: Trolling about Audacious? thats a new one. | Sep 02 13:16 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: not really | Sep 02 13:16 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: there is this very small vocal minority | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| _Goblin | nenolod: Im not particularly interested....hardly a hot potato | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| oiaohm | http://xmms2.org/wiki/Main_Page Read the warning notice there. nenolod | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: who "want XMMS back", so they "attack XMMS" | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| nenolod | er, s/XMMS/Audacious/ | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| _Goblin | nenolod: I couldn't care....I use audacious, it suits me. | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: yeah i know | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| nenolod | oiaohm: some spammer bought the domain | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| _Goblin | nenolod: I really only use it for podcasts and the odd mp3... | Sep 02 13:17 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: it suits like 99% of linux users who want a playlist-oriented player | Sep 02 13:18 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: this is an extremely vocal minority that sounds a lot bigger than they are | Sep 02 13:18 |
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| _Goblin | nenolod: I don't even want that...I play mp3/ogg on a one off basis | Sep 02 13:18 |
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| nenolod | i guess most people do not notice them | Sep 02 13:18 |
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| _Goblin | don't think Ive ever used a playlist to que up tracks. | Sep 02 13:18 |
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| _Goblin | Audacious and its default skin ties in well with Sabayon, thats good enough for my requirements of a player. | Sep 02 13:19 |
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| nenolod | audacious's skinned ui is no longer default though :P | Sep 02 13:19 |
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| _Goblin | ok...the default skin with the packaged ver in Sabayon | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| _Goblin | if you want to be fussy. | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| nenolod | hmm | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| nenolod | Sabayon is changing it back to skinnedui mode? | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| nenolod | bleah | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| _Goblin | I had some joker pimping XMplayer on my article.... | Sep 02 13:20 |
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| nenolod | XMplay is bleah | Sep 02 13:21 |
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| _Goblin | he seems to love it... | Sep 02 13:21 |
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| nenolod | there's some aspects of it that are nice | Sep 02 13:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I just had to kick !chromium from My !Fedora laptop. it is broke, and the repo I used is no longer working, where do I get the latest? | Sep 02 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @appelond http://fedorapeople.org/~spot/chromium/README.txt takes you here http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/chromium/ | Sep 02 13:21 |
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| _Goblin | probably because its a windows only binary... | Sep 02 13:21 |
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| _Goblin | the xmplay troll will dispute anything I write....If I say PC's run off electricity he would argue the point. | Sep 02 13:22 |
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| nenolod | XMplay has a cool tracker visualization thing | Sep 02 13:22 |
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| nenolod | but it only works on mods | Sep 02 13:22 |
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| _Goblin | good news for the troll though, it appears XMplay does have Wine compliance. | Sep 02 13:22 |
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| _Goblin | so if there was ever a Linux user so wanting they can probably run it. | Sep 02 13:22 |
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| MinceR | might be bad news for him :> | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| nenolod | that said, audacious got me a death threat from a diaper-wearing furry gentoo user | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| nenolod | like 3 years ago | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| nenolod | :< | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| _Goblin | Never had any bad experiences like that.... | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| _Goblin | people take this subject far too seriously. | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| nenolod | i wouldn't call it bad | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| nenolod | more amusing | Sep 02 13:23 |
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| _Goblin | if it works, I use it. If it doesn't, I say so. | Sep 02 13:24 |
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| _Goblin | there are strange people in all walks of life, the platform of choice is no indication of what type of person they are. | Sep 02 13:24 |
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| nenolod | we get people who refuse to report bugs to us | Sep 02 13:24 |
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| nenolod | because we use JIRA | Sep 02 13:24 |
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| nenolod | it's like "well, too bad. we use what we want to use, and yeah it's not opensource, but we like it" | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| _Goblin | oooh | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| _Goblin | evil proprietary user..... | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| _Goblin | ;) | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| nenolod | well, look at Linus | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| nenolod | he used bitkeeper for a long time | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| MinceR | and he got bitten by it | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| nenolod | because there wasn't anything out there that he liked more | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| _Goblin | I use proprietary and have no problem saying so... | Sep 02 13:25 |
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| nenolod | MinceR: yeah, well, like bitkeeper, a bug tracker isn't a big deal | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz that's not good. I hate it when my favorite apps fall behind, and not get upgraded. | Sep 02 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rahulsundaram Google Video chat plugin now for !Fedora http://ur1.ca/1fytf I hope Empathy/Pidgin can integrate such functionality | Sep 02 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @fabsh: Twitter now doing link wrapping and logging the clicks? Bold bastards! And people worry about Google... Jeez! | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| nenolod | i mean | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| nenolod | it's kinda hypocritical though | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| nenolod | because the guy i refer to | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| nenolod | he uses launchpad | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| MinceR | probably even less of a deal than an SCM syatem :> | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| nenolod | launchpad is proprietary | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| MinceR | s/sya/sys/ | Sep 02 13:26 |
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| MinceR | ic | Sep 02 13:27 |
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| nenolod | launchpad is *worse* by those standards actually | Sep 02 13:27 |
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| nenolod | because it's a *cloud* service | Sep 02 13:27 |
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| _Goblin | sorry nenolod, are you a audacious dev? Ive been to and from the PC..... | Sep 02 13:27 |
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| MinceR | yes he is | Sep 02 13:28 |
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| _Goblin | ah | Sep 02 13:28 |
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| nenolod | and bmp before that (plugins) | Sep 02 13:28 |
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| nenolod | and bmpx too (haha) | Sep 02 13:28 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: as an upstream developer of software, i have to say that some distros are more pleasurable to work with than others | Sep 02 13:31 |
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| nenolod | _Goblin: ubuntu, for example seems to enjoy breaking audacious in new and exciting ways with patches that they do not even show us | Sep 02 13:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] !NYC police tried to search my bag at subway entrance. I ignored them, left, reentered same station 1 block away. Security theater #FAIL. | Sep 02 13:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 'Twitter is over capacity' Strange people still solely using this for their social messaging. Imagine you would have this error with email! | Sep 02 13:31 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 02 13:33 |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Sep 02 13:33 |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:18:45 2010 | Sep 02 13:33 |
| nenolod | anyway | Sep 02 13:35 |
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| *nenolod snore | Sep 02 13:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] You can make money with open source. Literally. http://bit.ly/9cGVhL #opendesign #gimp #inkscape | Sep 02 13:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Hawking: God did not create the Universe http://ur1.ca/1fzoi | Sep 02 13:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Noch ein Tag, um die EURO 2012 Qualifikationsspiele zu beeinflussen !fs !fsfe http://ur1.ca/1fzu3 | Sep 02 13:41 |
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| oiaohm | nenolod: you are not allown with Ubuntu doing not upstream patching. | Sep 02 13:44 |
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| oiaohm | One of the most insane ubuntu guys mixed wine versions nenolod | Sep 02 13:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz thanks | Sep 02 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana Yes. If a patent holder contributed to a GPLv2+ code (that implements her patent). Does this grant a solid GPLv3 patent license? | Sep 02 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What would scholarly communications look like if we invented it today? - http://bit.ly/boAfSz exciting stuff like this... #scholarship | Sep 02 13:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Please bribe to influence the EURO 2012 championship http://ur1.ca/1g0ba !fs !fsfe !gnu | Sep 02 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bkuhn NYC police tried to search my bag at subway entrance. I ignored them, left, reentered same station 1 block away. Security theater. | Sep 02 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad identi.ca is never over capacity. Maybe one day it *will* be. | Sep 02 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 60% Of Apps In Android Market Are Free (Vs. 30% Or Less In Other App Stores) - http://tcrn.ch/bvqCTe big difference #apps #android | Sep 02 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights keeps climbing, now 924th in Netcraft | Sep 02 13:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Test | Sep 02 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] NYC police try 2 search my bag at subway entrance. I ignore them, leave, reenter same station 1 block away /by @bkuhn via @schestowitz | Sep 02 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Web versus Apps: what is missing in HTML5 - http://bit.ly/bzKbbe useful run-down #html5 #apps | Sep 02 14:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/9/2010: #RedHat at Year Highs, Fake 'Open Source' Called Out http://techrights.org/2010/09/02/red-hat-year-highs/ | Sep 02 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I always maintain the position that using Section 6 & 7 *together* is the best basis for the !GPLv2 implicit #swpats license. | Sep 02 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Dear spammers, I don't have a radio station and you are not fans of it. | Sep 02 14:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mahara: Who'd Have Thought? - http://bit.ly/9slR41 yet another reason why free software is unstoppable #education #portfolios | Sep 02 14:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why do news reports insist on using so-called when they know damn well it's already entered common language use http://bbc.in/apGf3Q | Sep 02 14:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EVERYTHING is 'so-called' because at some point that's what people called them | Sep 02 14:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If familiy members kill someone in an honour killing, why don't they stand proud when the Police arrive and admit it? | Sep 02 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak I think it should, provided that the contribution took place on or after 29 June 2007. However I am not sure a court would agree. | Sep 02 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Xué: #opensource reconfigurable network camera based on the !Milkymist SoC http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Xue /cc: !qihardware !xue | Sep 02 14:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Only available through iTunes, now there's a surprise; not http://bbc.in/axCvpP | Sep 02 14:31 |
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| MinceR | Pìng? | Sep 02 14:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hammered Single Ladies (Remix) - http://bit.ly/bNGCBq fantastic, quintessential 21st-century art #mashup #turnage #beyoncé | Sep 02 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz let's hope on day we will see an 'over capacity' message and celebrate it... and to make sure we never see it again ;-) | Sep 02 14:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Military Study Warns of Potential Energy Crisis - http://bit.ly/cQ8hkJ slowly a realisation is dawning... #peakoil #energy #de | Sep 02 14:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody the songs hardly align, it's a mess. Here's better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOuq3ceCW8E | Sep 02 14:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] German Military Study Warns of Potential Energy Crisis http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6912 > so what if fossils took billions to make fuel? | Sep 02 14:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The 1st annual !MeeGo Conference is November 15 - 17, 2010 at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin. http://conference2010.meego.com/ | Sep 02 14:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] How Barack Obama became Mr. Unpopular http://yhoo.it/9rv9b3 | Sep 02 14:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to be a persuasive patent lawyer: repeat words like "protect", "invention", "steal", "intellectual property", and "apparatus" #swpats | Sep 02 14:46 |
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| *MinceR never ceases to be amazed by how retarded m$ products can be | Sep 02 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Which one/s? | Sep 02 14:47 |
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| MinceR | winblows, for example | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | It's not a Microsoft product | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| MinceR | where the start command is supposed to be able to open urls | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| MinceR | it's a part of cmd.exe | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| MinceR | where & is a command separator even in quotes | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| MinceR | that's a lot of fun with urls that contain & | Sep 02 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | &quo;? | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | ampt; | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | & I mean | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | For HTML anyway | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| MinceR | that won't work in an url | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | Not sure it it's %xx for address | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | %22 a and %20 | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| MinceR | tried percent encoding it, then the server doesn't understand it | Sep 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | There's this program for Windows | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | It's called LUNIX and it makes things easier | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| MinceR | tell that to my client | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram Obama is the brand, not the team. The brand also inherits a mess from its predecessor | Sep 02 14:51 |
| schestowitz | For scripting for sure | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | Windows didn't catch up with PowerShi** | Sep 02 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | In fact, they stopped talking about it | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| MinceR | maybe they realized that a shell is mostly useless without command-line utilities | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | Which usually means they dropped the ball on it (and devs = layoffs) | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | See VIsta 7 and how Microsoft said nada about security in it | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| MinceR | :> | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: unicode and no antialiasing | Sep 02 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | Even mono(font) | Sep 02 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | monoispace | Sep 02 14:53 |
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| MinceR | "Security: None" | Sep 02 14:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Using a shell in Windows compared to Linux is like using paint.exe compared to the #GIMP in !GNU Linux | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz | "You'll also get two tickets to a Snoop Dogg concert and a new laptop pimped out with Norton Internet Security 2011." v | Sep 02 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/09/01/205227/Snoop-Dogg-Joins-the-War-On-Cybercrime?from=rss | Sep 02 14:56 |
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| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* so it's just for people who don't understand security | Sep 02 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | I don't need Norton on my coaster | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| MinceR | unpimp like they did in the VW ads | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | Did you see Norton? He's freaky! | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ya dawg | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| MinceR | Peter Norton has nothing to do with this crap | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| MinceR | symantec is ruining his image | Sep 02 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | He can remove the T | Sep 02 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | Moron Internet Security http://www.themadstore.com/paperbacks_files/image031.jpg | Sep 02 14:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design Blog: Why do you use !Ubuntu? Please complete the following sentence: #iuseubuntubecause ... http://goo.gl/n6Cl | Sep 02 15:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: of course, and unfortunately he takes the blame for the bad inheritance. | Sep 02 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Survey Shows #RHEL Increasingly Replacing #Windows http://ur1.ca/1g39x RHEL+Increasingly+Replacing+Windows/5941200.html #redhat !gnu !linux | Sep 02 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Essentially half of the surveyed partners, including some of the largest OEMs, indicate their customers are increasingly using Red Hat.." | Sep 02 15:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram some Republicans try to blame Clinton for the deficit. I reckon some in the tea party will believe it... along with Kenya+Marx :) | Sep 02 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Truth about Fakes (and Piracy) - http://bit.ly/cCazpD why ACTA is even worse than I thought #fakes #piracy #acta | Sep 02 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] too much noise in the office!!! can't code like this! | Sep 02 15:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Read Lewis (genius of our time) Hyde's interview about his new book "Common As Air" on the #cc blog: http://bit.ly/aYyZP6 | Sep 02 15:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Fund Manager Tries To Figure Out Whether Microsoft's Business Will Collapse http://ur1.ca/13igs "I have now changed my laptop to a linux" | Sep 02 15:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody The politicians usually name fake drugs (aka "generics" :-) ), not fake bags. | Sep 02 15:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody {...ctd} Copyrights, fake drugs, death, TERRO~1 something... just pass #ACTA or else you sympathise with pirates and terrorists! | Sep 02 15:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Big money finances far right politics in America http://ur1.ca/1g3yq | Sep 02 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Fund Manager Tries To Figure Out Whether Microsoft's Business Will Collapse - http://bit.ly/deqNKr v. detailed argument (via @schestowitz) | Sep 02 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reproducible Research [pdf] - http://bit.ly/9SGFyz "Addressing the Need for Data and Code Sharing in Computational Science": key issue | Sep 02 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Archos releases five budget Android tablets http://ur1.ca/1g462 Last year they tried #Vista7 briefly and it failed | Sep 02 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | has it improved at all? | Sep 02 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | I remember it not changing much before Vista | Sep 02 15:29 |
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| MinceR | haven't seen it on vista/vista7 | Sep 02 15:30 |
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| MinceR | probably the same crap | Sep 02 15:30 |
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| MinceR | since m$ doesn't care about CLI | Sep 02 15:30 |
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| MinceR | their attempt to pretend that they care was Gonad^WPowerShell | Sep 02 15:30 |
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| MinceR | PowerSmell | Sep 02 15:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @linuxtoy 关于 !Fedora 商标 http://is.gd/eRwck Trademark defense info: http://is.gd/ePlxF http://is.gd/ePjIA | Sep 02 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: sweatyShell | Sep 02 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: give it a deodorant | Sep 02 15:34 |
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| schestowitz | AdmFubar_: what's up? | Sep 02 15:34 |
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| AdmFubar_ | found this link on ars technica thought you'd like to check it out | Sep 02 15:34 |
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| AdmFubar_ | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/thomas-edisons-plot-to-destroy-the-movies.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Sep 02 15:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz the tea is no good | Sep 02 15:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad RT @linuxtoy 关于 !Fedora 商标 http://is.gd/eRwck Trademark defense info: http://is.gd/ePlxF http://is.gd/ePjIA >imitation=flattery? | Sep 02 15:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Say ‘No' to #UID: call for a national campaign http://bit.ly/csV2Kc | Sep 02 15:36 |
| AdmFubar_ | laters all | Sep 02 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | AdmFubar_: thanks | Sep 02 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | I'll link to it later | Sep 02 15:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reinouts @mairin To be honest, !gnome 2 looks much easier on that ad | Sep 02 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram Sarah made it with mushrooms and moose | Sep 02 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz to a certain degree. let's hope this can be settled in a decent way | Sep 02 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What is this degrading caricature of Richard Stallman supposed to get across? http://ur1.ca/1g4wy #zdnet #sigh !gnu | Sep 02 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | Why is it that Apple customers develop personal relatioionships wikth white gadgets? | Sep 02 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | They should get pets | Sep 02 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | Jobs loves his pets: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ces-foxconn-x48-shimano,4677.html | Sep 02 15:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Just got done with FLOSSWeekly on !virtualbos, now on to work | Sep 02 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] verdict due soon for two anti-whaling activists - http://bit.ly/bbNalY can't believe Japan really wants to look this stupid #japan #whaling | Sep 02 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz if she becomes president, I might go back to my home country | Sep 02 16:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @glynmoody I can easily believe that Japan wants to look that stupid. Emotions are involved. Emotional People don't act rationally. | Sep 02 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @themadhatteron sadly true | Sep 02 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @glynmoody There are a lot of emotions over whaling and outside pressures in Japan. So don't expect rationality. | Sep 02 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] X Census report (for 1.9) http://ur1.ca/1g57h by Tiago Vignatti #xorg #xserver #stats | Sep 02 16:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @glynmoody: verdict due soon for two anti-whaling activists - http://bit.ly/bbNalY can't believe Japan really wants to look this stupid | Sep 02 16:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatteron @glynmoody it take the mind of a whale to understand how foolish this is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elw-459P8kE | Sep 02 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/48169770#notice-48558079 "i think it's supposed to say being caught between a rock and a hardplace but it's stupid" | Sep 02 16:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram that might be likely then | Sep 02 16:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @themadhatteron There are a lot of emotions over whaling and outside pressures in Japan. So don't expect rationality. >humans = wild life | Sep 02 16:16 |
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| gnufreex | http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/10/09/454555/piper-jaffray-more-clients-using-red-hat-than-microsofts- | Sep 02 16:24 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I posted this | Sep 02 16:24 |
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| gnufreex | Sorry, didn't saw | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | *see | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | You don't dent anything | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | I saw your account today again | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | No activity | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | on identica? | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | Set up a client on your workdspace | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: yes | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | I have no idea what to post | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | Fact way to insert bits to this channel | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | :-) | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | *fast | Sep 02 16:25 |
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| gnufreex | You mean, I post links there insted here? | Sep 02 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | We've thrown away all the twitter from techrights, due to oauth | Sep 02 16:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Danziger Bridge shooting investigation grows http://ur1.ca/1g5s9 | Sep 02 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] If we count borrowings from Social Security, the last deficit-free year was when JFK was President. | Sep 02 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Which also means the debt (again, counting funds owed to Social Security) has increased every year since then. | Sep 02 16:26 |
| gnufreex | I have set up gwiber for identica. I will post something now. | Sep 02 16:27 |
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| schestowitz | on kde there's a plasmoid for it | Sep 02 16:27 |
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| gnufreex | I posted link to to EL reg article | Sep 02 16:29 |
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| gnufreex | But I think it didn't show up | Sep 02 16:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @schestowitz it's all about marketing. We need a hyped chrome OS/android tablet people want to give money for. Not an inferior cutting board | Sep 02 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 yesterday I read that Feds ponder a second big bailout | Sep 02 16:31 |
| gnufreex | I didn't validate email, that is why it didn't work | Sep 02 16:32 |
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| gnufreex | I just said hello. | Sep 02 16:33 |
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| gnufreex | Did it show up | Sep 02 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: give it 5 minutes | Sep 02 16:33 |
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| ThistleWeb | microblogs are not like PMs, they refresh every few minutes | Sep 02 16:35 |
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| gnufreex | Never used this thingie before. I thought it is to Facebookish, and I hate Facebook.. so... | Sep 02 16:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Hello | Sep 02 16:36 |
| gnufreex | Here is it. | Sep 02 16:36 |
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| ThistleWeb | I sometimes feel restricted by the 140 char limit | Sep 02 16:37 |
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| gnufreex | Yeah, that sucks | Sep 02 16:37 |
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| ThistleWeb | where you have to re edit your post a few times to cut words out | Sep 02 16:37 |
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| ThistleWeb | the idea of a small limit is cool, it focuses your mind, but I'd like a little more, maybe 150 | Sep 02 16:38 |
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| ThistleWeb | on the other hand, it's like roads in the UK, the more they build, the more the traffic fills them so they need to build yet more | Sep 02 16:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz say it isn't so! She is a total moron. | Sep 02 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MokaFive outs bare-metal PC hypervisor http://ur1.ca/1g6bg "MokaFive have grabbed a popular Linux distro [...] and ripped out everything" | Sep 02 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is MokaFive a GPL violation like VMware? !sflc #gplcompliance | Sep 02 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/01/red_hat_makara_acquisition/ | Sep 02 16:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Writer @jlwallen shares how he got Bamboo Tablet out of box and into daughter's artsy hands using #Ubuntu 10.04: http://bit.ly/bMVnjD | Sep 02 16:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Great. I thought we already bailed out all the fat cats (paid for by regular folks). Who now? | Sep 02 16:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3237733/twitter-is-most-popular-social-networking-site-for-businesses/ | Sep 02 16:48 |
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| gnufreex | OSTATIC tries to pass Apple as open source compny http://ostatic.com/blog/apples-relationship-to-open-source | Sep 02 16:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I wonder if I could find something similar to the Acer Revo but w/o OS, with a small SSD and a slot for a CrystalHD decoder | Sep 02 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram being an "Average Person" is sometimes what makes them strong candidates (sympathy when high society lols). Look at young George. | Sep 02 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 I'd need to locate that article again (major paper) | Sep 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: I know | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | Sam Dean probably | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | He uses Macs | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| gnufreex | Jon Buys | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | And links to Mac Asay to say it's OK | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | Sadly for him, even Asay was pressured to leave the Church of Morm.. I mean, Apple | Sep 02 16:52 |
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| gnufreex | hehe | Sep 02 16:53 |
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| schestowitz | "The conversation around open source and Apple is a complicated one because Apple walks the fence between open and closed. They are not 100% either, but they seem to have found a good balance between the two." | Sep 02 16:53 |
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| schestowitz | He doesn't quite say they are open source | Sep 02 16:53 |
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| gnufreex | When I read better | Sep 02 16:53 |
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| gnufreex | It doesn't | Sep 02 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | It should say "Open Source Relationship to Apple", not "Apple's Relationship to Open Source" | Sep 02 16:54 |
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| gnufreex | I just read the headline and asumed they are doing what they do always. My bad :( | Sep 02 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | Cause that's the direction in which this relation flows | Sep 02 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | Whether it's wanted or not... BSD | Sep 02 16:55 |
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| gnufreex | Yes. Apple is mostly taking. | Sep 02 16:55 |
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| gnufreex | They only put what they take on their "open at the core" page | Sep 02 16:55 |
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| gnufreex | But they never contribute to projects | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| gnufreex | Selfrespecting open source project won't go to apple site to take changes. | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://280.status.net/notice/370931 "Difficult to understand, but deficit and debt are two different (but related) things. If we count borrowings from Social Security, the last deficit-free year was when JFK was President." | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Listen to what our podcast sounds like when we record, edit and upload it all on the same day! http://bit.ly/9eLQA2 | Sep 02 16:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @jasonstamper: Intel CEO: "Noooooo. I said 'get my coffee', not 'get McAfee'!" < LOL | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| gnufreex | You need to push changes upstream | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| gnufreex | Project won't pull | Sep 02 16:56 |
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| gnufreex | + then most of the times use BSD-ish license so they don't even give back changes. | Sep 02 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Like webkkkkit | Sep 02 16:57 |
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| gnufreex | Yes, they practicaly rewrote KHTML and put BSD licenses instead LGPL | Sep 02 16:58 |
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| gnufreex | But they gave some changes back | Sep 02 16:59 |
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| gnufreex | At first | Sep 02 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/119054/why-microsoft-being-nice-open-source | Sep 02 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | "Yea, like a wife beater. They will be as nice as they feel they need to be to gain control and start beating us again. They aren't changing fundamentally because it isn't in their genetic makeup. They, simply, don't know how to play nice and at their very core, at the end of the day they are just vicious and feel that if they can't have us then nobody can." | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| gnufreex | I am scared what will Apple do with LLVM | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | Harm GCC | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| gnufreex | They hired main developers and probably patented everything | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | We talked about it last week | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| gnufreex | Yeah | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| gnufreex | I think they harm GCC | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | They work with Intel | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | Ipple | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| gnufreex | But also, they will harm other LLVM users | Sep 02 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | And they can make icc->gcc->llvma | Sep 02 17:01 |
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| gnufreex | BSD license doesn't have patent grant | Sep 02 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | *llvmac | Sep 02 17:01 |
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| gnufreex | Apple can sue anyone who use LLVM and Clang | Sep 02 17:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana ♺ @jasonstamper: Intel CEO: "Noooooo. I said 'get my coffee', not 'get McAfee'!" | Sep 02 17:01 |
| schestowitz | InfoWorld Bossie is still the same BS I called it in 2007 http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Lucid-Imagination-Congratulates-Apache-Solr-on-InfoWorld-Bossie-Award-Win-1311320.htm | Sep 02 17:02 |
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| gnufreex | For example, Google is contributing something to LLVM now. Maybe they want to put it in Android | Sep 02 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | How does IDG make money from this virtual 'trophy'? | Sep 02 17:03 |
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| gnufreex | Have no idea | Sep 02 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | why can't apple use gcc? | Sep 02 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | rather, why won't it? | Sep 02 17:04 |
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| gnufreex | Because they hate FSF... probalby. And GPLv3 | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| gnufreex | They want to reserver right to sue | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| gnufreex | For patents | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | Like Darwin and Webkit | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | Contorl freaks | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | "No invented here" syndrome | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| gnufreex | GPLv3 requires to to waive right to sue | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | DO you trust themsteering x.org-server? | Sep 02 17:05 |
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| gnufreex | Apple doesn't use xorg | Sep 02 17:06 |
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| gnufreex | They have their own windowing manager | Sep 02 17:06 |
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| gnufreex | which is propriatary | Sep 02 17:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Sick of your BitTorrent app? Want something faster? Try one of these: http://bit.ly/cRb04p | Sep 02 17:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drumbeat: what’s next? - http://bit.ly/9auBOh asks drum-major @msurman why not tell him? #mozilla #drumbeat | Sep 02 17:06 |
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| gnufreex | reserver / reserve | Sep 02 17:07 |
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| gnufreex | Maybe they also want to sell XCode IDE, but probably want to add Apple only extensions to compiler. | Sep 02 17:09 |
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| gnufreex | To do EEE | Sep 02 17:09 |
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| gnufreex | In fact, they first cited lack or focus on ObjC | Sep 02 17:10 |
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| gnufreex | By GCC devs | Sep 02 17:10 |
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| gnufreex | But that's Apple's fault | Sep 02 17:10 |
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| gnufreex | They kept their ObjC runtime library propritary | Sep 02 17:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Defense of Links, part three: In links we trust - http://bit.ly/bkAwnN lots of reasons to love #links | Sep 02 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: they can add patches | Sep 02 17:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw don't forget | Sep 02 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. Is this a real lawyer and one that represents the govt in Malaysia? Malaysia tak-boleh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maQK3jNrg9E #fb | Sep 02 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw ... | Sep 02 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | But they would not control GCC that wat | Sep 02 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | *way] | Sep 02 17:16 |
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| gnufreex | Some of their patches got rejected because it broke things on Linux and worked only on OSX | Sep 02 17:18 |
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| gnufreex | They have total disregard for other platforms | Sep 02 17:18 |
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| gnufreex | There is everything on GCC mailing list. I will try to find it. | Sep 02 17:19 |
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| gnufreex | for example, they FUDed against GPLv3 http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2008-09/msg00427.html | Sep 02 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | thanks | Sep 02 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | # | Sep 02 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | # To: "Yuhong Bao" <yuhongbao_386 at hotmail dot com> | Sep 02 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Sep 02 17:20 |
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| schestowitz | Thats' the troll who visits here | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| gnufreex | haha | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | Now they have 15 year old kids on the mailing lists | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw don't forget via @glynmoody | Sep 02 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Very powerful personal 8 minute video about Citizen Funded Elections by #bravenewfilms: http://bit.ly/a4O3hn | Sep 02 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] See folks, that's why open data / open formats is so important. Avoids those situations entirely. http://bit.ly/d1LoCw | Sep 02 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system - http://bit.ly/bwLxiD whoa: seriously bad news from seriously thorough article #twitter | Sep 02 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw ... | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | Copying and pasting technowaffle to waste the time of non-Microsoft engs | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| gnufreex | Read other posts | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | Yuhong trolling from his Vista box | Sep 02 17:21 |
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| gnufreex | That is first that came up when I searched | Sep 02 17:22 |
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| gnufreex | There is crislattner (the LLVM guy, works at Apple) and GCC developers posts in that thread | Sep 02 17:22 |
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| gnufreex | Also, FreeBSD developers removed GCC from base and they now use old GCC 4.2 (which is GPLv2) until Clang is ready. | Sep 02 17:25 |
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| gnufreex | I have no idea why they do that, other than hate and FUD | Sep 02 17:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Patent troll goes after Apple, Google, Facebook, Ebay http://ur1.ca/1g7gt | Sep 02 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system - http://bit.ly/bwLxiD > so they 'broke' apps *AND* made it improper | Sep 02 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Another Gulf oil rig explodes: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100902/ap_on_re_us/us_gulf_rig_explosion | Sep 02 17:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system - http://bit.ly/bwLxiD whoa: seriously bad news from seriously thorough artic ... | Sep 02 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @glynmoody: Not really a surprise there #oauth is a bad protocol #twitter #fail | Sep 02 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lnxwalt140 Another Gulf oil rig explodes: http://ur1.ca/1g7mb > time to quit this addiction yet? | Sep 02 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw ... | Sep 02 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @ruiseabra surprising how much momentum it has gained, then... | Sep 02 17:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @glynmoody: Just like Windows 95! #oauth is particularly bad for client apps, it's full of security by obscurity and useless workflow. | Sep 02 17:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Reminder: You Don't Own Your Ebooks; Amazon Locks Customer Out And Doesn't Respond To Help Requests - http://bit.ly/d1LoCw ... | Sep 02 17:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #fail. Really big #fail: "Twitter felt that allowing FOSS Twitter clients to use OAuth posed an unacceptable risk." - http://is.gd/eRIAB | Sep 02 17:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Folks, can you help us replace our PA? All help and RTs greatly appreciated! Every little helps! http://is.gd/eRIOn #severedfifth | Sep 02 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | "degrading stallman conveys a hatred for anything not subject to Job's megalamoniacal need to control distribution & releases." http://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/22805084540 | Sep 02 17:48 |
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| cubevector | Jobs is a user | Sep 02 17:49 |
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| cubevector | he used Woz, then he used BSD | Sep 02 17:50 |
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| cubevector | same old story | Sep 02 17:50 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Sep 02 17:50 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Sep 02 17:50 |
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| sebsebseb | I mean hi everyone, but I wanted to do this | Sep 02 17:51 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Sep 02 17:51 |
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| sebsebseb | :D | Sep 02 17:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @KaylaCagan Happy 90210 Day. <<made me laugh. Really. :D | Sep 02 17:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @so_you_know someone---NOT I---ate monday through wednesday. RT @jiznakefoo: how is it thursday already??? << yikes it's Thursday? | Sep 02 17:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] win 2 superbowl tckts! RT @BPatNetApp: NetApp at Oracle OpenWorld 2010, my first video blog http://bit.ly/bkhBMi #OOW2010 | Sep 02 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "WANTED: Somebody to go back in time with me. [...] P.O. Box 322, Oakview, CA 93022" - #mustread #FTW http://is.gd/eRK4O | Sep 02 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay! Gravity created the universe not some "divine thing" - http://ur1.ca/1g8c5 #fb | Sep 02 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 7 Things You Can Do in KDE, But Not in Windows http://ur1.ca/1g8d3 | Sep 02 18:06 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Sep 02 18:06 |
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| cubevector | where's the link to the Hawking article? | Sep 02 18:08 |
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| cubevector | .::. | Sep 02 18:08 |
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| cubevector | oh well, I guess I'll never know who created the Universe now | Sep 02 18:09 |
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| MinceR | it's right there | Sep 02 18:09 |
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| MinceR | 190619 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay! Gravity created the universe not some "divine thing" - http://ur1.ca/1g8c5 #fb | Sep 02 18:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Haben die Burger King Manager zuviel Zeit auf der ManCademy verbracht? | Sep 02 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] ♺ @gabrielsaldana: #patent troll paul allen DOES look like a troll! http://ur1.ca/1g852 goes after Facebook, Google, Apple & more | Sep 02 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Open Ended: Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system http://goo.gl/VJFz an another reason to use !identica | Sep 02 18:11 |
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| cubevector | that KDE article omits one important piece of infomation | Sep 02 18:14 |
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| cubevector | KDE => 4 is rather a memory pig | Sep 02 18:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] After the coupen deal with MSFT has ended, NOVL found a new "sponsor" - VMWare. http://is.gd/eRKTP Seems noone wants to pay for SUSE anyway. | Sep 02 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How much did VMWare pay to NOVL? http://is.gd/eRKTP And how high is the renewal rate on the MSFT sponsored subscriptions? | Sep 02 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] It always makes my day when @laforge gets involved w/ !GPL enforcement again. As he says "somebody's gotta do it!": http://ur1.ca/1g8l3 wb! | Sep 02 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 2/9/2010: New Survey Shows Red Hat !GNU !Linux Increasingly Replacing Windows http://ur1.ca/1g8nt !techrights | Sep 02 18:16 |
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| cubevector | it would be interesting to know the historical record of windows server | Sep 02 18:22 |
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| cubevector | when did it first appear I wonder | Sep 02 18:22 |
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| cubevector | CERN httpd was the first web server in 1990, but after that things get murky | Sep 02 18:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @schestowitz: Links 2/9/2010: New Survey Shows Red Hat !GNU !Linux Increasingly Replacing Windows http://ur1.ca/1g8nt !techrights | Sep 02 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Czechoslovakia may get draconian on creative commons http://ur1.ca/1g8yg | Sep 02 18:26 |
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| cubevector | so it seems that the dark ages really started on 30 May 1995 | Sep 02 18:27 |
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| cubevector | windows nt 3.51, with IIS | Sep 02 18:27 |
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| cubevector | platform support: IA-32, Alpha, MIPS, PowerPC | Sep 02 18:28 |
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| cubevector | so there was a good 5 years of no Microsoft in server-space | Sep 02 18:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "customers are increasingly using Red Hat for what would have otherwise been Windows Server workloads." - http://is.gd/eRMnw | Sep 02 18:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Would public perception of Microsoft be changed if Ballmer left? For me he reminds me of a used car salesman. !microsoft !windows !mvpbuzz | Sep 02 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] An open source education--for educators. POSSE (professor OS summer) http://bit.ly/c8YLtI #openeducation #transparency #collaboration | Sep 02 18:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: Only idiots want to pay for Novell. | Sep 02 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Update On WebM http://bit.ly/aUrQaS | Sep 02 18:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes I think the same about him. | Sep 02 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Microsoft Patents Operating System Shutdown http://bit.ly/90cwqv #linux | Sep 02 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Woo Hoo! rt@kunalnayyar RT@ billprady Yes, yes, yes. George Takei will be on #bigbangtheory. Episode 404 (airs 10/14) << Go George! | Sep 02 18:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @qwp0 Jefferson defended IP rights for they foster innovation. Blakley proves it's not true. http://ur1.ca/03bop !cc !copyleft | Sep 02 18:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ruiseabra you warned about oauth well ahead of everyone. Now I know why. | Sep 02 18:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] gbrainy 1.51 for Linux and Windows http://ping.fm/R1o6m | Sep 02 18:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Valve is Looking For Someone Who Can "Port Windows Games to Linux" | Tech Drive-in http://ow.ly/2yEJ8 | Sep 02 18:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Print file format changes on Linux http://ping.fm/jA9JW | Sep 02 18:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: I saw red flags of bad design and how it was useless in client apps.This appears worse. Much worse! #oauth #fail | Sep 02 18:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft Argues That Android Isn't 'Free' - www.enterprisemobiletoday.com http://ping.fm/1RTeD | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: Red flags of bad design in security software is really something to take in account. | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent trolls are scary http://ur1.ca/1gacz (Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. Picture: AP Source: AP) | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SCO gets more time to file appeal brief regarding its loss to Novell http://ping.fm/UkpGx | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OpenOffice.org Conference 2010: preparing the next ten years http://ping.fm/Wx8EI | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LinuxPlanet - Tutorials - Best Practices with sudo on Linux - Dos and Dont's of sudo http://ping.fm/yH5J5 | Sep 02 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz When will he say "Myyyy Precciiiooouuusss"... ? | Sep 02 19:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blender 2.5 Quizzes http://ping.fm/okHh8 | Sep 02 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-09-02: Facebook could cost you your job! Sample FUD that just happened to show up in my mail today... http://bit.ly/bIfLXu | Sep 02 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sony's Shocking 'Other OS' Win and Suspect Distro Popularity Trends - LinuxInsider.com http://ping.fm/vDiAT | Sep 02 19:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Twitter's EPIC #FAIL using #oauth http://arstechnica.com/security/guides/2010/09/twitter-a-case-study-on-how-to-do-oauth-wrong.ars/ | Sep 02 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner gbrainy is mono | Sep 02 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft IE Browser Marketshare Drops To 60 Per Cent - ITProPortal http://ping.fm/bDeSt | Sep 02 19:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Lightspark 0.4.4.1 released http://ping.fm/gZ3vO | Sep 02 19:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] uTorrent Linux Server Released, Client Coming Soon http://ping.fm/Oy6e8 | Sep 02 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Scammers using fake copyright infringement notices for profit http://ping.fm/zmx7E | Sep 02 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I never knew that. I don't use it anyway. | Sep 02 19:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink ... Facebook could cost you your job! Sample FUD that just happened to show up in my mail today... http://bit.ly/bIfLXu | Sep 02 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner Canonical phases it in | Sep 02 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner thanks for the good links anyway | Sep 02 19:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz The Mono thing is so annoying: we shouldn't have to honour software patents in the first place. I wish we could ignore them :( | Sep 02 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Substandard farming to blame for samonella outbreak http://ur1.ca/1gbop | Sep 02 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @sanjayankur a good read !linux http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO.html | Sep 02 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Compromising #Twitter's #OAuth security system http://bit.ly/bwLxiD » so they 'broke' apps & made it improper via @schestowitz & @glynmoody | Sep 02 19:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Trying to follow a link on a site shows me that the #WebOS browser needs a way to display a link's host server. #PalmPre !Pre | Sep 02 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Can't tell where you're going or (easily) where you already are if URL is long. #WebOS #PalmPre | Sep 02 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] Who Contributed The Most During X Server 1.9? http://ow.ly/2yGcS | Sep 02 19:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @benjaminsolah Nice one! http://awe.sm/59z0N | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @margo_MK aw, Thanks! http://awe.sm/59z0O | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @Mauronic Greenwich observatory http://awe.sm/59z0P | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Secret to YA #sex scenes: ' use verbs, not appendages.' @alisongoodman #WorldCon #aussiecon http://awe.sm/59z0Q | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Secret to YA #sex scenes: ' use verbs, not appendages.' @alisongoodman #WorldCon #aussiecon http://awe.sm/59z0R | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Via @MPINAF: Open Education in Higher Ed: Textbooks, OpenCourseWare, and the “S” Word (@tvol guest) http://bit.ly/9hdTvc | Sep 02 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz You're welcome. I always learn a lot from your posts. | Sep 02 19:41 |
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| MinceR | sword! | Sep 02 19:41 |
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| gnufreex | MinceR: Huh? | Sep 02 19:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Digg exposes its monthly website traffic -- turns out Reddit might be bigger http://ur1.ca/1gcuy | Sep 02 19:51 |
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| MinceR | gnufreex: s-word | Sep 02 19:51 |
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| gnufreex | Nevermind :D | Sep 02 19:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140 that would be cool | Sep 02 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] The People Who Support #Linux: Chase Crum At Work and at Home. http://bit.ly/aLY7yC | Sep 02 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Twitter a case study of how to do OAuth wrong: http://bit.ly/95D46j #twitter #fail | Sep 02 20:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Via @MPINAF: Open Education in Higher Ed: Textbooks, OpenCourseWare, and the “S” Word (@tvol guest) http://bit.ly/9hdTvc | Sep 02 20:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @Arunuik: RT @guptar: Philippines SC Struck Down Their #UID as Unconstitutional - Parallels with India http://t.co/i9a0cNM #uidai | Sep 02 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: RT @vrsrini: The #UIDAI responds to a critical article in the @E_P_W - http://bit.ly/cbNWwY #UniqueID #Aadh... | Sep 02 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @privacyint: RT @sunil_abraham: Govt evaluating private cloud computing for unique ID project http://is.gd/ePKZd #UID | Sep 02 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @PrivacyDigest: RT @sunil_abraham: Govt evaluating private cloud computing for unique ID project http://is.gd/ePKZd #UID <- India | Sep 02 20:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eclipse Day at the Googleplex 2010 - http://bit.ly/9Fvk2O nice vote of confidence for #Eclipse #google #devs | Sep 02 20:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Discovery, rediscovery, and open access - http://bit.ly/bbmPec wide-ranging and ddep #openaccess #knowledge | Sep 02 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Chinese government using mental hospitals as unofficial prisons http://ur1.ca/1gefy | Sep 02 20:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introducing fise, the Open Source RESTful Semantic Engine - http://bit.ly/9OCoaT looks pretty cool #semantics #opensource | Sep 02 20:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tablet Computers Will Thrive Because They Are Shareable - http://bit.ly/9gwXs7 that's a go v. good point #tablets #sharing | Sep 02 20:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @webmink @segphault "For every epic fail there is an equal and opposite epic win" -- Webmink's Law Of Conservation of Win. | Sep 02 20:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] People disappear from this world just like that :|. He was talking to me and we were having fun. All of a sudden he is gone. | Sep 02 20:36 |
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| _Goblin | Great stuff...flash is sorted... | Sep 02 20:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Watching Man vs. Wild I just love !Discovery and !Bear | Sep 02 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung ‘Prioritizing’ Android Ahead of Windows Phone 7 and Its Own Bada - http://bit.ly/ag8obh why? 'cos it's “very open and flexible” | Sep 02 20:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] You can access Openbytes via http://www.openbytes.co.cc/ as well as its Wordpress subdomain name | Sep 02 20:47 |
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| _Goblin | sorry Roy...Tinyogg was far too slow to get results (for an impatient Daniel) and gnash was problematic. | Sep 02 20:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Open-Xchange Releases Free Migration Tool For Microsoft Outlook Users http://bit.ly/beGHmq #linux | Sep 02 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The monthly meeting of the Hungarian Ubuntu LoCo has just finished. !ubuntuhu #locoteams | Sep 02 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] rt @glynmoody: Samsung ‘Prioritizing’ Android Ahead of Windows Phone 7 and Its Own Bada - http://bit.ly/ag8obh it's “very open and flexible” | Sep 02 20:51 |
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| _Goblin | was unable to watch you the other night...issue with distro.. :( | Sep 02 20:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The last days of old Kashgar - http://bit.ly/byC7x3 another Chinese #urbicide - and maybe worse #uighurs #xinjiang #china | Sep 02 21:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @tante So you can #twitter from !vim? http://is.gd/eRYSF Who would have thought? | Sep 02 21:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Beta review on #WebUpd8: http://goo.gl/hFIy | Sep 02 21:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Justice Department Sues Infamous Joe Arpaio, 'America's Sheriff' http://gawker.com/5628835/ | Sep 02 21:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Belinda Lopez: !Ubuntu in Education http://goo.gl/9C3K | Sep 02 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "CEO's need to transform themselves into chief enabling officers" - one key to 21st century management | http://bit.ly/95muV8 #collaboration | Sep 02 21:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I almost forgot to mention that I have a new mouse: a Logitech LS1 Laser Mouse - http://goo.gl/3M3u | Sep 02 21:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @pookito How about Sabayon then? | Sep 02 21:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @WiesnGaudiTV Eins unserer diesjährigen Schmankerl: Die wunderbare Sunny Bansemer. Einen Vorgeschmack gibt's unter http://bit.ly/8XJP5u | Sep 02 21:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Open Source Software Competitive With Cutting-Edge Applications? - OStatic http://ping.fm/PxfMY | Sep 02 21:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @pookito Fair enough....Ive had no real issues with 5.3 but each to their own! | Sep 02 21:41 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi everyone! | Sep 02 21:43 |
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| cubevector | what do people use for creating music on Linux? | Sep 02 21:44 |
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| cubevector | I see rosegarden but it won't compile on vector | Sep 02 21:44 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | While doing a little research, I found some interesting data on MS | Sep 02 21:44 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.tracked.com/company/microsoft/insider_trades/ | Sep 02 21:45 |
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| MinceR | i'd use a tracker | Sep 02 21:45 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | it looks like the only buys from MS insiders are probably stock options as a part of their wages | Sep 02 21:46 |
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| MinceR | (which isn't "trendy" today, but you can control it with a keyboard) | Sep 02 21:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] And so it begins..... The !ubuntu beta notifications. Come on people, even my 90 year-old Catalan neighbour knows about it. | Sep 02 21:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.tracked.com/company/microsoft/people/ | Sep 02 21:46 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.tracked.com/company/microsoft/ownership/ | Sep 02 21:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | The first link shows how much stock each of the insiders own, including Gates and Ballmer. | Sep 02 21:51 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | It dosen't show Paul Allen stock, as he dosen't work at MS anymore. | Sep 02 21:52 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen | Sep 02 21:52 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "] He sold 68 million shares of Microsoft stock that year,[10] but still owns a reported 138 million shares.[11]" | Sep 02 21:53 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Which would make Allen the 3rd largest private owner of MS stock. | Sep 02 21:53 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But what is really interesting | Sep 02 21:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | is Ballmer | Sep 02 21:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer is worth more than Allen. 14.5 compared to 13.5 according to wikimedia | Sep 02 21:54 |
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| cubevector | MinceR, going to try to see if I can install qt4 stuff on VL6 | Sep 02 21:55 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | *wikipedia | Sep 02 21:55 |
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| cubevector | not having qt4 is starting to be a real pain | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "When Microsoft was incorporated in 1981, Ballmer owned 8 percent of the company." | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] For everybody in !ubuntu group: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule Entire release schedule. No need to post each one ;-) | Sep 02 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Para todos en el grupo !ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule No hace falta que postamos cada uno. | Sep 02 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] However, TwitVim 0.4.x will continue to work with identi.ca, which will still support Basic authentication. | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| cubevector | Gates had more though I think | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "In 2003, Ballmer sold 8.3% of his shareholdings, leaving him with a 4% stake in the company" | Sep 02 21:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | " <cubevector> Gates had more though I think" He still does, but not as much as you think. He sells off a lot of stock these days. | Sep 02 21:57 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Now we get to the interesting part | Sep 02 21:58 |
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| MinceR | misreading the image caption: "steve ballmer taking a sweat at the keyarena to watch the sweattle supersonics" | Sep 02 21:58 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer is a complete tightwad | Sep 02 21:58 |
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| cubevector | doesn't surprise me | Sep 02 21:58 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | WhereGrates and Allen use PR and create foundations to try to show how giving they are, Ballmer privately, as far as I can see, just hoards his money. | Sep 02 21:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | *Gates | Sep 02 21:59 |
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| cubevector | hoarding, hoarding, hoarding, hoarding! | Sep 02 22:00 |
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| MinceR | cubevector: what, vectorlinux doesn't have qt4 packages? | Sep 02 22:00 |
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| cubevector | yeah it does | Sep 02 22:00 |
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| cubevector | but not on VL classic | Sep 02 22:00 |
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| MinceR | separate repositories? | Sep 02 22:01 |
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| cubevector | yes | Sep 02 22:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | A google search for: steve ballmer Philanthropy returns only a hit about schools in Tennesse, with Ballmer talking, and looks like free MS money (not really free) not his own money | Sep 02 22:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google CEO Shown Menacing Children on Times Square Jumbotron http://gawker.com/5628861/ | Sep 02 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] If people keep repeating the same Ubuntu news over and over, i'm going to announce the day of the week 50 times everyday. Today is Thursday. | Sep 02 22:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, the idea, is to present the fact that Ballmer is a complete tightwad robber baron type. | Sep 02 22:02 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Sure, he will just do like Gates did when he gets enough bad PR, like Bill Gates did. | Sep 02 22:03 |
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| cubevector | DEODERANT DEODERANT DEODERANT DEODERANT!!!" | Sep 02 22:03 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But at least in the meantime, he gets more bad PR | Sep 02 22:03 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe even a boot out the door | Sep 02 22:03 |
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| cubevector | what is the money for then? | Sep 02 22:04 |
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| cubevector | kind of silly isn't it? | Sep 02 22:04 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | How do you spend 14.5 billion dollars US at age 58? | Sep 02 22:04 |
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| MinceR | buy an island or a dozen | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| MinceR | buy an army | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | or a country | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| MinceR | buy a megacorp | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| cubevector | well at least that hungarian guy egged him :) | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| MinceR | or buy a cult | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| MinceR | eggs don't do much | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | what he fears most is bad PR | Sep 02 22:05 |
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| cubevector | surely Microsoft has had tons of bad PR already | Sep 02 22:06 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I hope Roy will do a story on the tightwad | Sep 02 22:06 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | a little more bad PR for MS could not hurt | Sep 02 22:06 |
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| cubevector | ok, then he's really a Scrooge, but without any redemption | Sep 02 22:06 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | It would seem so | Sep 02 22:07 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | did he promise to give away half to his buddy Bills foundation? | Sep 02 22:08 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | not sure about that one | Sep 02 22:08 |
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| cubevector | don't know | Sep 02 22:08 |
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| cubevector | man the vector repos are slow :-/ | Sep 02 22:09 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | here is the list of the 40 billionaires that Gates got to pledge half their income. Notice Ballmer is not on the list. http://givingpledge.org/#enter | Sep 02 22:15 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | He is a tightwad/hoarder. | Sep 02 22:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] RT @topfloorstudio Evernote is my new favorite. Searched open and came up with a picture of opensource.com on someones shirt. OCR #win | Sep 02 22:16 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe he's just smart, he knows he's gonna take MS down, so he's guarding his wealth | Sep 02 22:16 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | You really think Ballmer is smart? | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| cubevector | he is smart | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | lol | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| MinceR | lol | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| cubevector | he just acts stupid | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| MinceR | if he was smart, he'd be taking m$ some other place than down | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| ThistleWeb | he's managed to stay in the job for several yrs, despite MS's poor performance at almost everything | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, I used to say he was smart on MS Watch, as I wanted MS to keep him at the helm. | Sep 02 22:18 |
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| ThistleWeb | I do think a campaign to save Ballmer would be a great move for the FOSS crowd | Sep 02 22:19 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | The only reason Ballmer stays, is because of the stock both he and Bill own. | Sep 02 22:19 |
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| ThistleWeb | if they do get rid of him, and put someone competent in, they'd be more dangerous | Sep 02 22:19 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | right | Sep 02 22:19 |
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| ThistleWeb | his continual failures just saps MS's momentum, reputation and money | Sep 02 22:20 |
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| ThistleWeb | they do have a LOT of money to waste, but it's not infinite | Sep 02 22:20 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but, he will probably go next year anyway, the stockholders will rebel at some point of failure | Sep 02 22:20 |
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| cubevector | ok, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University | Sep 02 22:20 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | so some more bad PR for Ballmer, and MS is in order. | Sep 02 22:20 |
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| ThistleWeb | maybe, but it'd be a sly move to do a "Save Ballmer" campaign on faecbook or something | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @opensourceway The new twitter oAuth broke our Drupal > Twitter integration w/ @opensourcefeeds did this happen to anyone else? | Sep 02 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] NewsBytes – Thursday 2nd September 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2cqakd3 | Sep 02 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi 'Consumer' 'Watchdog' an AstroTurfing group, exposed already; people should call the FTC on 'Consumer' 'Watchdog', not vice versa | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I doubt anyone could turn around the fortunes of MS in less than a year or two | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| ThistleWeb | try to keep him in charge for as long as poss | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| cubevector | do I think Ballmer is "smart" in a philosophical sense? no | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| ThistleWeb | no | Sep 02 22:21 |
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| MinceR | would that be "save ballmer because he'll take m$ down faster than anyone else" or "save ballmer because he's doing great"? | Sep 02 22:22 |
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| cubevector | he did well at school and he made a ton of money | Sep 02 22:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer is a moron, but an extremely rich one. | Sep 02 22:22 |
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| ThistleWeb | he's smart as in "slippery used car salesman who's been getting away with selling cut&shuts for decades" | Sep 02 22:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | those were Bill's idea's. the lock in | Sep 02 22:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | not his | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: what tightwad? Sweaty's? | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| ThistleWeb | MinceR: the real goal is the former, but it'd be better to play the PR as the latter | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| MinceR | ic | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| ThistleWeb | make it appear like it's a page created by loyal Microsofties | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, Sweaty S. Ballmer | Sep 02 22:23 |
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| ThistleWeb | to help ease the pressure on their beloved Boss, because they see Ballmer is the answer to MS's riches | Sep 02 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | Sweaty O. Ballmer | Sep 02 22:24 |
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| cubevector | plese, he's not Irish descent :) | Sep 02 22:24 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, did you read my long comments on Ballmer and his hoarding? | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Iran and Jewish | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | according to wikipedia | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Iran? | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe defaced | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Check history of editse | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| cubevector | Douglas Engelbart is probably one of the true visionaries | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | *edits | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | I saw some defacements before | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| cubevector | of course not Ballmer | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Some funny | Sep 02 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | I think Novell's Hovsepian might have Iranian descent | Sep 02 22:26 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | well, his mother was Jewish from a Iranian family, but check wikipedia to get it right | Sep 02 22:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz FTC neutered about a decade ago. Do-nothings ever since. | Sep 02 22:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which leaves us with the other billionaire tightwad, Steve Jobs | Sep 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | He creates Jobs | Sep 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | For kids in booths | Sep 02 22:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | no he is a JObs | Sep 02 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | If they are lucky | Sep 02 22:27 |
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| MinceR | :D | Sep 02 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | "we're creates slav... jobs" | Sep 02 22:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | in china | Sep 02 22:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Sep 02 22:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I bet Jobs is even tighter than Ballmer is | Sep 02 22:28 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Jobs was against giving early Apple employees stock options, so Woz did it with some of his own stocks | Sep 02 22:29 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | those at the top, pure greed | Sep 02 22:30 |
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| ThistleWeb | peeps at the top of corps dont do it to be generous, they do it to get mega rich | Sep 02 22:30 |
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| ThistleWeb | why else do you find all sorts of inventive ways to screw the taxman? | Sep 02 22:30 |
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| ThistleWeb | well, screw the taxman and stay out of jail to enjoy your wealth | Sep 02 22:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Republicans abandon small business http://ur1.ca/1gk6v | Sep 02 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 true http://techrights.org/2007/12/16/ftc-in-monopoly-pocket/ | Sep 02 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ubuntu 10.10 Beta is taking it's sweet time downlaoding vai Bittorrent | Sep 02 22:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, I agree that the foundation is a tax and PR scam. Trouble is, most sheepie have been taken in by it. | Sep 02 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he's so tight he's all turtleneck :-> | Sep 02 22:32 |
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| ThistleWeb | like any govt, it's a system by the rich to keep the rich wealthy | Sep 02 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: cause they see it in papers where it's advertised | Sep 02 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Gates pays many newspapers, blogs, radio channels | Sep 02 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | He know what to invest in, publicity included | Sep 02 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | NPR would lose millions for doing what Los Angeles TImes did | Sep 02 22:33 |
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| ThistleWeb | the phrase "a government of the people, by the people, for the people" is in full swing, the confusion is that "the people" were never me and you, it was the rich | Sep 02 22:33 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs | Sep 02 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Actually, Los Angeles TImes might actually get payoff to shut up in the future | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: people means not the people | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | Look back at the documents about the country's foundation | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| ThistleWeb | the people, is people like them | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | A common fallacy is that the US was made to run by all people | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | a la democracy | Sep 02 22:34 |
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| ThistleWeb | yep | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | It was never supposed to be that way, and it's explicit | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's a rule of "responsible adults" | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | So basically the US still runs like it's supposed to | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "] Forbes estimated his net wealth at $5.1 billion in 2009, making him the 43rd wealthiest American.[54] Jobs has been criticized for his lack of public philanthropy despite his wealth, particularly in recent years as other billionaires have pledged significant portions of their fortunes to charity." | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| ThistleWeb | back then they didnt trust women or blacks to vote | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | It doesn't mean they should not strive for better | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I put JObs at over 6 billion back awhile ago | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| ThistleWeb | not the average joe | Sep 02 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Those who ran the place and wrote the constitution were not ordinary men (women!!??!! Haha. Not back then) | Sep 02 22:36 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | two tightwads that know no end to their greed. | Sep 02 22:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Setting up !twitvim : vimrc configured, need to read the commands. | Sep 02 22:36 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly, ordinary people are always left holding the wrong end of the shit stick | Sep 02 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: human nature when the currency is power and recognition for them | Sep 02 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | The most vain one is Gates | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Which is funny cause his charade only shows his vanity and craving for love | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Paul Troll got jealous | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Now he's making headlines | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | "Bad Boy" | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | Troll ALlen rhymes better | Sep 02 22:37 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Allen mainly gave to medical centers, and some colleges before his pledge. Remember he had cancer. | Sep 02 22:38 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | And he never gave half. | Sep 02 22:38 |
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| schestowitz | It didn't kill him | Sep 02 22:38 |
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| ThistleWeb | he's just nailed to the perch | Sep 02 22:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I think he has cancer again, but not the same as before | Sep 02 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://ur1.ca/1gacz | Sep 02 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls can only be ended with garlic.. loads of it. | Sep 02 22:40 |
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| ThistleWeb | do vampires like garlic bread? | Sep 02 22:40 |
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| ThistleWeb | twas worth denting that gag | Sep 02 22:41 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, be careful if you do any article on the tightwads. Use maybe, probably or someone said. | Sep 02 22:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I see it is covered in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Classpath | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @vanstrapp Nothing to do with me, I just retweeted. Feel free to download and repost to somewhere less silly! http://awe.sm/59zPZ | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @IainHMcLean: http://www.zshare.net/audio/79985667b8b498ab/ - audio of Cory Doctorow speaking today - ... http://awe.sm/59zPa | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @locusmag: Perspective: Cory Doctorow: Proprietary Interest http://tinyurl.com/2ebrz4a http://awe.sm/59zPb | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @smalljones: "Rolling Down To Old Maui" from @RogerMcGuinn http://is.gd/eS2y6 Bring drinking water and... http://awe.sm/59zPc | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @ellenforsyth It's OK with me! http://awe.sm/59zPd | Sep 02 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Do vampires like garlic bread? | Sep 02 22:41 |
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| gnufreex | [23:39:56] <schestowitz> The trolls can only be ended with garlic.. loads of it. | Sep 02 22:42 |
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| gnufreex | LOL | Sep 02 22:42 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Despite the company's record-breaking profits and $40 billion cash on hand,[59] Jobs has not reinstated a philanthropic division at Apple." | Sep 02 22:43 |
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| ThistleWeb | when times are tough, shareholders won't appreciate you giving money away | Sep 02 22:44 |
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| ThistleWeb | they want you to be making money for them | Sep 02 22:44 |
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| cubevector | ...and when times are good, they want you to be making money for them... | Sep 02 22:45 |
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| cubevector | ;-) | Sep 02 22:45 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | more on Jobs greed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak | Sep 02 22:45 |
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| ThistleWeb | yep | Sep 02 22:45 |
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| gnufreex | Like MSFT gives away money. Gates is not really giving money away. | Sep 02 22:45 |
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| cubevector | he gives with ulterior motives | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| cubevector | like when he gave money to libraries | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| gnufreex | He gives if you use Windows.. .lol | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb they do, but their g/fs don't | Sep 02 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] There needs to be a Daryl McBride Gimp'd image as a zombie wearing a SCO t-shirt | Sep 02 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux machines with no rebooting…? Is this what we want? http://ping.fm/9xsyd | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "In 1980, Apple went public and made Jobs and Wozniak multimillionaires. However, Jobs had refused to allow some employees of Apple to receive stock options, so Wozniak decided to share some of his founder stock with the rest of the team by either giving them away for free or at a heavily discounted price. This was dubbed "The Woz Plan"." | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| gnufreex | It doesn't get more ulterior than that. | Sep 02 22:46 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | screw the worker bee's | Sep 02 22:47 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Jobs | Sep 02 22:47 |
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| cubevector | it's been that way since the pyramid building days :) | Sep 02 22:47 |
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| gnufreex | "Origins of Apple | Sep 02 22:48 |
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| gnufreex | In 1970, Wozniak had become friends with Steve Jobs, when Jobs had a summer job at the same business where Wozniak was working on a mainframe computer.[2]" | Sep 02 22:48 |
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| gnufreex | How do you get rich? You hang out with smart guys -Scott McNeally | Sep 02 22:48 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | The two Steves deserve bad PR for being greedy tightwads. | Sep 02 22:49 |
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| cubevector | but Woz wasn't a greedy tightwad | Sep 02 22:50 |
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| cubevector | unless you meant Ballmer and Jobs | Sep 02 22:50 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | right, Woz is ok | Sep 02 22:50 |
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| MinceR | hardly ok | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| ThistleWeb | maybe that's where Linux is going wrong, it's needs it's own Steve at the top | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| MinceR | he's a retarded cultist | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| MinceR | and free software hater | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I only put the Woz link in to show how Jobs did not want to take care of his employees | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !twtvim won't authenticate on identica. vimrc configured, curl installed, what could be wrong? | Sep 02 22:51 |
| MinceR | read what he said about the hypePhone 4 | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| cubevector | we have Stallman :) | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | The Witch of Oz | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| cubevector | that's not bad | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| MinceR | and? | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| cubevector | and Linus of course | Sep 02 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Pffft.. | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| gnufreex | RMS is better than Steve Jobs | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| schestowitz | RMS could use transplants | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| cubevector | he is, no question about it | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Linus is only a millionaire, and seems happy with that | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| cubevector | the man is brilliant | Sep 02 22:52 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | RMS agreed, is brilliant, and thought deeply about his fellow human beings. | Sep 02 22:53 |
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| MinceR | RMS is a hacker and he's ethical | Sep 02 22:53 |
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| MinceR | garbage like jobs can't be mentioned on the same page | Sep 02 22:53 |
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| gnufreex | I think Linus is a sellout. He said we are sick if we hate Microsoft. | Sep 02 22:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I can't say which of the two Steves is the worst. But two Steves do not make a right. | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| gnufreex | Later Microsofties spined that | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: hatred is not healthy | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| MinceR | hatred is natural | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | It's not productive | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | To be vigilant and vocal/critical is good | Sep 02 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | When I think hatred, I think of Galloway maybe | Sep 02 22:56 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: Well duh. But M$-tards used that later to prech how we should love Microsoft or we are zealots. | Sep 02 22:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !twitvim won't authenticate on identica. vimrc configured, curl installed, what could be wrong? | Sep 02 22:56 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: yeah | Sep 02 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | THey don't need Linus for that | Sep 02 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | It's an odd way to diffuse truth tellers | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | telling the truth has nothing to do with hatred. | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | A: "I think you are...." | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: Yes, but they get more people to buy it if they say Linus agree. | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | B: "you HATER!!! HATER1!" | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: Linus doesn't count much | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | To some he might | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | being called a MS Hater is sometimes a mark of honesty. | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | he developed a system's kernel | Sep 02 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | the subsystem of a bigger system is now maintained by many people from many companies that own the cipyrights | Sep 02 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: it's a sign of the caller losing the argument | Sep 02 22:59 |
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| gnufreex | He developed the kerenel, but ones that Microsoft propaganda is targeting think that Linus wrote whole thing when he was bored. | Sep 02 22:59 |
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| MinceR | there are good reasons to hate m$ | Sep 02 22:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | windows phone 7 PR is everywhere now | Sep 02 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | When someone claims to win an argument with a word like "hater, "liberal!", "racist", "Homophobe", "anti-Semite" etc. then it's olst | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | Labels are worthless | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/09/20/stereotypical-words-for-critics/ | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| cubevector | communist? :) | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/01/05/shooting-the-messenger/ | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/09/30/use-of-daemonising-labels/ | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | its as you say, if the MS shills cannot win the debate, they attack the messinger with the Hater label. | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: that too | Sep 02 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | [22:59] <Chips_B_Malroy> windows phone 7 PR is everywhere now | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | They get what they pay for | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | $400,000,000 | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | For PR puppets | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !twitvim !identica login solved: let twitvim_cert_insecure = 1 Awesome! :-D | Sep 02 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Imagine how many filthy scum can be employed to rubbish papers with that money | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | That's just how it works | Sep 02 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | Have money; objective: take over newspapers | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Corollary: newspapers are written by money | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer needs some adoption of Windows Phone 7 or his job is toast. Why else spend 400 million on a Phone OS that you only sell for $15? | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Now they curse Android | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Saying it's "expensive" | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | "Anonymous" employees | Sep 02 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Read; PR Turfs | Sep 02 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft makes money from Android | Sep 02 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Extorts money from it, rather | Sep 02 23:03 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | windows family pack is back, must be the next quarter will be bad, and MS needs a little bouce. | Sep 02 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft also plays "underdog" now to keep regulators away | Sep 02 23:03 |
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| gnufreex | That is one thing that most anoys me about Microsoft. They want cut of everyone's products. | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Lobbyists like Microsoft Florian help them deflect | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: why shouldn't they? | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Why charge for products? | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | better to charge for "OS shut down" | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Android has that | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Ka-ching! | Sep 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | Google: "but wait! We wrote all the code!!" | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | Sweaty: "you stole it from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111" | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| cubevector | no, everyone stole from xerox :) | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| gnufreex | lol | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | They had good papers | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | They needed asswipes | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | [Or toner] | Sep 02 23:05 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: they caught Gates stealing from Xerox... 6 boxes of toner :-) | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| gnufreex | I am anoyed because MSFT doesn't even have the balls to sue. They go and extort OEMs instead. Oracle at least sued the source of their problem | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Kaffeine 1.1 released http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=node/28 !linux !foss !kde | Sep 02 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Testing !twitvim from !vim on !identica | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| gnufreex | They didn't go for users | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | He got caught black-handed, if you know what I mean | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| cubevector | Gates tried to steal the Toner forumula :) | Sep 02 23:06 |
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| *schestowitz uses kaffeine at the moment | Sep 02 23:07 |
| gnufreex | MSFT goes for CentOS users and claim they own it. They don't dare to attack RHEL users becasue Red Hat would sue. | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Don't feel sorry for the two Steves, both have more money then anyone would know what to do with. They have no regards for the little people. | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: like a little car inside the cartridge? | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | The fiend! | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| gnufreex | But Salesforce used RHEL.. go figure. | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | He stole the Formula car | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| cubevector | everyone uses older code | Sep 02 23:07 |
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| cubevector | everything is based on older ideas | Sep 02 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | Nooooooooooo :-) | Sep 02 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | I 'invented' something | Sep 02 23:08 |
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| cubevector | except for the one who wrote the very first software I suppose | Sep 02 23:08 |
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| schestowitz | Jim was like totally sitting in a cave one day and then he started craving out transisitors.... | Sep 02 23:09 |
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| cubevector | gears would be a bit more likely schestowitz :) | Sep 02 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | 200 years later something started from scratch again and invented sticks for 45 nm separation | Sep 02 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | cubevector: it's chaining | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | The giants like IBM swallow small idead | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| cubevector | you can trace it back to Babbage, but I'm not sure his stuff worked or could store a program | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | ANd add them to the 'national' computer (US) company | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | It's like a wave | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | Where the startups get pulled into the Machine | Sep 02 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | And the big companies claim credit for inventing everything and creating slav... jobs | Sep 02 23:11 |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 02 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | goon | Sep 02 23:12 |
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| MinceR | no u | Sep 02 23:12 |
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| gnufreex | I think that industry must have been stupid to alow monopolies like MSFT and Intel | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| gnufreex | Both are created by IBM | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | who is Industry? | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Lady Industry, like Luck be a Lady? | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Don't personify industry | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| gnufreex | All companies sold their fabs to Intel | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| gnufreex | DEC | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| gnufreex | sold to intel | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron | Sep 02 23:13 |
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| gnufreex | IBM chose Intel | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | IBM chose Microsoft | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | BillyG's mommy knew some people in IBM | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| cubevector | hmmm | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| gnufreex | Then everybody bet their future on Itanic | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | IBM is instrumental like the government | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | But they keep the slavery in India | Sep 02 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | It helps the fortune holder in the US, not IBM's home country | Sep 02 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | IBM might buy RHT. http://www.mysmartrend.com/news-briefs/news-watch/after-yesterdays-rally-318-red-hat-shares-could-pullback-rht | Sep 02 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | It has money left over from that preparation to buy SUn | Sep 02 23:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Listening to Burning Human's 'Resurrection Through Fire' - awesome! | Sep 02 23:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The new OMG!Ubuntu site at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ looks awesome - good work, chaps! | Sep 02 23:16 |
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| gnufreex | HP sold PA-RISC team to intel. DEC sold fabs and ARM division. Later Compaq sold Alpha team to Intel. SGI spun off MIPS in favor of Itanium. Similar goes for software and Microsft. If whole industry was not stupid, we wouldn't be in this crap. | Sep 02 23:17 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | its goog to point out to people that people like the two Steves do not help people with less. In a depression where people are just trying to survive, the Steves continue their greed. | Sep 02 23:18 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | its perhaps not a good thing to have people so rich | Sep 02 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's good | Sep 02 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Just not to everyone | Sep 02 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | Tough love.... love for a few, though for the rest | Sep 02 23:19 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I am not a communist, but I am beginning to believe that maybe there should be a limit on personal wealth. | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | No | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | They cap it with philanthrocapitalism | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | It means they exchange money for power | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | Which they then pass to their kidsT | Sep 02 23:20 |
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| schestowitz | In the US you still have the Rockefeller dynasty | Sep 02 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Calling for wars and some such... trillions of dollars worth | Sep 02 23:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Why WebOS 2.0 Should Have Rivals Worried http://bit.ly/9r4YvU | Sep 02 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Interesting test: google 'obama rockefeller' | Sep 02 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | I haven't done that, but I can imagine what will come uo | Sep 02 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | *up | Sep 02 23:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | even the Kennedy and Bush families pass on the wealth | Sep 02 23:22 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | there is a hidden class system based strickly on wealth | Sep 02 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | Or power | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Those in power brought there by those with money | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Then serving them | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | They are thirsty for this relationshio | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | prof Lessig gives talks about it | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | After CC | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Intoxicating to them | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | BillG loves to use BilLC now | Sep 02 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | Not just the Clintons... Powell too.... and other politicians | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | BillG exploits politicians to lend credence | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | to change laws in his favor | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | and to influence court cases | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | No, no... for 'us' | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | Bill loves "all his children" :-) | Sep 02 23:25 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but he loved Bush more | Sep 02 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | What did God say to Bill? | Sep 02 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | ;-) | Sep 02 23:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] English translation for the previous tweet at http://is.gd/eS9hm (thanks Ron) #severedfifth | Sep 02 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PC replacement trend for enterprise market to appear in 1Q11, says Asustek http://ur1.ca/1gms0 further confirmation of ASUS !Linux | Sep 02 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shares at W3Schools.com http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/09/02/shares-at-w3schools-com/ "GNU/Linux rose from 4.2% to 4.9%, up 17% year over year" | Sep 02 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Are you running the Ubuntu 10.10 Beta? http://is.gd/eS9nC #ubuntu #iamrunningubuntubeta | Sep 02 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | Nothing.... nobody can speak to Bill, not even God | Sep 02 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | Oh dear... UBuntuBeta "flood" | Sep 02 23:27 |
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| schestowitz | Like who gives........ | Sep 02 23:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I liked your Red Hat article this morning | Sep 02 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/DanaBlankenhorn/status/22798048554Floyd is still using Dana as his puppet: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/22795409827 | Sep 02 23:31 |
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| schestowitz | Let's try this again. Floyd is still using Dana as his puppet: http://twitter.com/DanaBlankenhorn/status/22798048554 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/22795409827 | Sep 02 23:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Autopsy doctor from Tomlinson killing found incompetent http://ur1.ca/1gn2b | Sep 02 23:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't think Gates would come back and run MS | Sep 02 23:33 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates is clearly selling off MS stock and only ever aquires any as payment for being the Chairman of the Board. | Sep 02 23:34 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | MS is being run so bad, that I have to wonder if Gates is buying Apple stock. | Sep 02 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/is-your-university-complying-with-the-new-textbook-law/ | Sep 02 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | Gates is doing bigger things now | Sep 02 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | old, pharma cartel | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | Big money | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | /old/oil | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | lets just hope Gates does not run for Office | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, that version of story seems accurate (I contributed some of it) but Paul has told me it was @rms who hated $ & all caps #Classpath | Sep 02 23:36 |
| schestowitz | "Get me into that and goddam, we'll make so much money!" -- BillyG | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he might | Sep 02 23:36 |
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| gnufreex | He will outlaw free software | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| gnufreex | If he gets into white house | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | And enough idiot might vote a criminal in, not for the first time | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I would have to leave the country if he won | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: with a smile | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | He will make it subtle | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Like he does in librsaries | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | "Donating software worth $32473298469238649" | Sep 02 23:37 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, that is why the library computer system crashes so often, windows | Sep 02 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | But in Greece and in Vietnam he messed up and showed the foundation acts ALONG with Microsoft | Sep 02 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | I.e. Microsoft front of sorts | Sep 02 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | NASA fail: http://www.muktware.com/news/02/2010/328 | Sep 02 23:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I noticed that Gates stopped selling when MS stock went lower than $24 a share | Sep 02 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | They should make it free software at NASA | Sep 02 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | Taxpayers pay for it | Sep 02 23:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | at least he stopped for awhile, I should say | Sep 02 23:39 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | greece the right hands and the gov will buy windows, no problem | Sep 02 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | Donated.. like drug samples | Sep 02 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Debt to Goldman and to Gates | Sep 02 23:44 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | bribes | Sep 02 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | IMF WTF :-) | Sep 02 23:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Oracle renaming to "OracleOffice" http://twitter.com/OracleOffice No "Open"/"Free" in this name. Concerned. #odf #ooo #openofice | Sep 02 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @bugabundo: uTorrent Linux Server Released, Client Coming Soon http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/JUdAHTx0F2o/ | Sep 02 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Undecided: should I license the !gentoo #tinderbox scripts under #MIT license or #WTFPL ? | Sep 02 23:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @jonobacon downloading it right now, I will be running it once that is done. | Sep 02 23:46 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "<schestowitz> "Donating software worth $32473298469238649"" Which is worth what? Less than 10 cents per plastic copy to Gates? Maybe a cost of a couple of thousand dollars of software plastic disks at most? | Sep 02 23:47 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but Gates gets to write it off for full retail value | Sep 02 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: paid back | Sep 02 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | When the kids log and and get redired to MSN | Sep 02 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | [23:48] <Chips_B_Malroy> but Gates gets to write it off for full retail value | Sep 02 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | Which he himself set? | Sep 02 23:49 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | well put | Sep 02 23:50 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | it should be pointed out that the leaders at MS are not buying their own stock | Sep 02 23:53 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | one of the first links I gave you | Sep 02 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | Seems too board | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | the last fair size buy of MS stock from an insider was Bach when he was still there | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | 8broad | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | Bash is an inside trader | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | He should be in prison, but prisons are not for rich people | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Robbie Bach | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | They are not touchable | Sep 02 23:54 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yeah | Sep 02 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:schestowitz.com+bach&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl= | Sep 02 23:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US told EU to hide #ACTA from public http://ur1.ca/1fv8g Secrecy has correlation with corruption | Sep 02 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz US told EU to hide #ACTA from public http://ur1.ca/1fv8g Secrecy has correlation with corruption | Sep 02 23:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | there will be a reaction here to ACTA as well | Sep 02 23:57 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | whats next after ACTA? Capital Punishment for file sharers? | Sep 02 23:58 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | its a big joke to most people. | Sep 02 23:58 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | 200 million for 16 songs or something she got | Sep 02 23:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | nobody going pay that | Sep 02 23:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | only Gates like folk have that kind on money | Sep 02 23:59 |
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