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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Including ads and other promotions by wireless operators and handset makers, as well as the marketing activities of other partners around the world, the total expenditures for launching Windows Phone 7 could run into the "billions," Goldberg told InternetNews.com, relaying information that he said he heard recently from company executives." | Sep 05 00:00 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | billions? on WP7. This could be the biggest MS failure yet. | Sep 05 00:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | lulz | Sep 05 00:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's costly convicning people to buy stuff they don't want. | Sep 05 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even their partners, yes | Sep 05 00:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rofrol/@rofrol] The Management Myth (2006) news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1635499 | Sep 05 00:01 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | How do you spend billions and sell the phone OS for $10 to 15? | Sep 05 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer is insane | Sep 05 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Why Iceland? | Sep 05 00:04 |
| MinceR | good thing he's wasting that much money on that flop | Sep 05 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/sep/01/windows-phone-7-costs-billions | Sep 05 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to spend billions on Windows Phone 7: what chance of payback? | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 148.44 KB | Sep 05 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> its not a good thing, cause if or when WP7 flops, Ballmer will most likely have to leave. | Sep 05 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS might get real leadership | Sep 05 00:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @leorockway @miguel0n nonfree software doesn't help the !gnu community. | Sep 05 00:06 | |
| cubevector | for Microsoft it will be death from a thousand cuts | Sep 05 00:08 |
| cubevector | no one thing will bring them down | Sep 05 00:08 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 05 00:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could Mobile become a bigger bleeder for MS than Online Search? | Sep 05 00:09 |
| MinceR | some people say that mobile is very important | Sep 05 00:09 |
| cubevector | it's important | Sep 05 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it is, just not for MS | Sep 05 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cause MS has already lost Mobile | Sep 05 00:09 |
| cubevector | all the young people I see have mobile devices of some sort | Sep 05 00:09 |
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| cubevector | although personally I prefer laptops to pdas and the like | Sep 05 00:10 |
| cubevector | iphone, ipad etc, it's not even worth considering | Sep 05 00:11 |
| MinceR | it's important for m$ even if they fail at it | Sep 05 00:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, its the lock in value to MS. Ballmer wants to make sure that only windows software is used on anything resembling a computer | Sep 05 00:12 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <MinceR> ic | Sep 05 00:13 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <Chips_B_Malroy> could Mobile become a bigger bleeder for MS than Online Search? | Sep 05 00:13 |
| cubevector | he's failed at that though | Sep 05 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Mobile already cost them billions | Sep 05 00:13 |
| schestowitz | it's the money sink nobody writes about anymore | Sep 05 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | I'm with cubevector on this one. thousand cuts, bleed em dry | Sep 05 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more billions to come | Sep 05 00:13 |
| cubevector | I | Sep 05 00:14 |
| cubevector | I' | Sep 05 00:14 |
| cubevector | ugh | Sep 05 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ever visit http://minimsft.blogspot.com ? he's fond of totting up the beellions | Sep 05 00:14 |
| schestowitz | They have no choice | Sep 05 00:14 |
| schestowitz | They are losing the monoculture | Sep 05 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 400 to 500 million alone in ads coming up. You have to figure that Ballmer cannot stay long if WP7 bombs out bad. | Sep 05 00:14 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: been suscribed to it for ages | Sep 05 00:14 |
| cubevector | yes, monoculture is passé | Sep 05 00:14 |
| cubevector | what once was, will be again | Sep 05 00:15 |
| *schestowitz reads heavily about rich men's scam ATM | Sep 05 00:15 | |
| cubevector | we had a hetrogenous computing environment in the 80's and I think we will go back to it | Sep 05 00:15 |
| cubevector | maybe not quite as varied as it was before, but not monoculture like 1995->2000 | Sep 05 00:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | cubevector: i agree | Sep 05 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, if they use Android or Linux on a smartphone, soon they might on a Tablet | Sep 05 00:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | cubevector: the monoculture is death | Sep 05 00:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | cubevector: it's terribly costly and wasteful | Sep 05 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then the desktop is threatened for MS | Sep 05 00:17 |
| cubevector | most of the "dead" OSes have been reborn | Sep 05 00:17 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! | Sep 05 00:17 |
| cubevector | BeOS-> Haiku, AmigaOS -> AROS | Sep 05 00:17 |
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| cubevector | maybe even OS/2 will be reborn as a FOSS OS | Sep 05 00:18 |
| MinceR | unlikely | Sep 05 00:18 |
| MinceR | afaik m$ has copyright on some parts of it | Sep 05 00:18 |
| MinceR | that's in part why ibm isn't doing anything with it | Sep 05 00:18 |
| cubevector | hmmm | Sep 05 00:18 |
| schestowitz | IBM uses it for nothing | Sep 05 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Shelfware | Sep 05 00:18 |
| cubevector | zombieware? :) | Sep 05 00:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | beware | Sep 05 00:19 |
| MinceR | zom beware | Sep 05 00:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | zomg | Sep 05 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OS/2 stills lives as eComStation | Sep 05 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not free | Sep 05 00:20 |
| MinceR | it's a vegetable | Sep 05 00:21 |
| cubevector | aha, they ported gnash to Haiku | Sep 05 00:22 |
| cubevector | I must get gnash to compile one of these days | Sep 05 00:22 |
| MinceR | with much gnashing of teeth | Sep 05 00:24 |
| cubevector | with gnash I bet it would be easy to save video streaming stuff | Sep 05 00:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, and the caverns are littered with the bleached bones of those who felt the same | Sep 05 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: RT @GodlessAtheist: Why Optimus Prime is better than Jesus http://i.imgur.com/ecVB3.png #atheism http://awe.sm/5A3Mr | Sep 05 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: #CC exhortation in the #WorldCon newsletter http://twitpic.com/2lb811 #aus4 #creativecommons http://awe.sm/5A3Ms | Sep 05 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Wanky door designers attack #Worldcon #donaldnorman #aus4 http://twitpic.com/2lb6c9 http://awe.sm/5A3Mt | Sep 05 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: @jeffjarvis Cry For Attention: nailed it! http://awe.sm/5A3Mu | Sep 05 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[doctorow/@doctorow] doctorow: Andrew Keen thinks that laser-based print-on-demand technology is "pre-Industrial" - he must be hanging o... http://awe.sm/5A3Mv | Sep 05 00:26 | |
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| cubevector | ok | Sep 05 00:27 |
| cubevector | I think I'm going to put the bot on ignore for now | Sep 05 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I was thinking of removing doctorow | Sep 05 00:28 |
| schestowitz | He posts in massive bursts | Sep 05 00:28 |
| schestowitz | I'll remove him noiw | Sep 05 00:28 |
| cubevector | the FSF has the right idea about flash | Sep 05 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Done | Sep 05 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Flash will die | Sep 05 00:29 |
| schestowitz | At some stage | Sep 05 00:29 |
| cubevector | ok, reprieved :) | Sep 05 00:29 |
| cubevector | I'm surprised at the amount of code gnash contains | Sep 05 00:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] a pleasant saturday coding; fixing bugs, adding features. in the mood for a screencast even, perhaps. | Sep 05 00:31 | |
| cubevector | just move the flash stuff into another program off the browser | Sep 05 00:33 |
| cubevector | or something... | Sep 05 00:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2010/tc20100827_955625.htm | Sep 05 00:34 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft will reportedly spend at least $400 million?and possibly billions?to market Windows Phone 7, says TechCrunch." | Sep 05 00:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer isn't going to go out without a fight. | Sep 05 00:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | possible billions, he is crazy. | Sep 05 00:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer did say he would bury Google? or was it kill Google? Well it looks like Google will get the better of him. | Sep 05 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | both? | Sep 05 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | but who really cares | Sep 05 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's just BS to impress analysts | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's all he ever does | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | is spin | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | postpone the inevitable crash | Sep 05 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer the Impaler buries things | Sep 05 00:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | emBallmer | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | ha! | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | very apt | Sep 05 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | the corpse was gutted by gates | Sep 05 00:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | ballmer's job is to keep it stuffed with chemicals so that the analysts think it's not rotting | Sep 05 00:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | keep the corpse propped up for public viewing | Sep 05 00:41 |
| schestowitz | "Pearly Gates and Em-Ballmer - One promises you heaven and the other prepares you for the grave." - Ray Noorda, Novell | Sep 05 00:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @aseigo a pleasant saturday coding; fixing bugs, adding features. in the mood for a screencast even, perhaps. >thanks for plasma and !kde | Sep 05 00:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/9/2010: Huawei and #Android Phones, Toshiba and Android Tablets http://techrights.org/2010/09/04/huawei-and-toshiba/ !techrights | Sep 05 00:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 4/9/2010: Huawei and Android Phones, Toshiba and Android Tablets | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.5 KB | Sep 05 00:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's certainly prepping the 'once great' corporation for the grave. | Sep 05 00:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | and not a moment too soon. | Sep 05 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | bring on the worms | Sep 05 00:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if WP7 fails big, after spending all that money on it, two things will happen, IMO | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has a new tactic now | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | it plays undedog | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | For sympathy | Sep 05 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | 'this is what we do well' | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | "won't you please buy Microsoft to restore competition?" | Sep 05 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | 'being the underdog' | Sep 05 00:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | first Ballmer will leave next year. Second will be massive layoffs at MS | Sep 05 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | no, what you do well is lock-in | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | "Use Bing to defend against the evil empire" | Sep 05 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Be careful of all that | Sep 05 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | Chips_B_Malroy: the layoffs have been inevitable | Sep 05 00:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | Chips_B_Malroy: they already started but are managing it incompetently | Sep 05 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: good for Ballmer | Sep 05 00:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but the next CEO of MS will really cut back | Sep 05 00:43 |
| schestowitz | He and execs vacuum'ed lots of money from the corp | Sep 05 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft doesn't worry much... | Sep 05 00:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | kickbacks | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | It's the same sociopths from there | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Including Pearly | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | He now breaks US education | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Destroying it like it's toys in his bedroom | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a phenomenon | Sep 05 00:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a culture of people, or cult | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | They like power | Sep 05 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes, MS was a vehicle for moving cash. laundering, basically. | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft->MSN | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | MSNBC... | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | It's not just software | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | BillG does Sachs, Monsanto now... | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Sachs caue world hunger | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | By speculation on food priced | Sep 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz | So he funds starvation in a way | Sep 05 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | +1 | Sep 05 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | he makes money off starvation. it's analogous to the subprime crisis | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid87735931001?bclid=87675639001&bctid=541391120001 | Sep 05 00:46 |
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| FurnaceBoy | and Goldman's role | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Gates talks | Sep 05 00:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Vegas is up to 14.8% official unemployment now, with another 8.4% as not searching | Sep 05 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | Bill Gates: Turning misery into money, for a lifetime. | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | What his interests are | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Starts with, "well..." | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Softare is just somke tool for him | Sep 05 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | Chips_B_Malroy: anyone who imagined Vegas was sustainable.................. | Sep 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Got his money flush funds started | Sep 05 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: of course. Gates used software as his blunt weapon. In another time, he'd have used something else. Maybe coffee. Or silk. or something. | Sep 05 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch usesthe press | Sep 05 00:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes. it's his little earner. | Sep 05 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Gates now does this too, to an extent | Sep 05 00:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | USA is sliding back into bad times. 9.5 to 9.6 now | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Muroch visited Gates some months ago | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | In a Seattle meeting | Sep 05 00:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Murdoch Services. I swear that there will be revelations to come about Murdoch. | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | new: https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/the-lines-of-influence-in-education-reform/ | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 05 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Lines of Influence in Education Reform | Seattle Education 2010 .::. Size~: 218.63 KB | Sep 05 00:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: he can't hide it forever. The evidence of his 'press for hire' will come out | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Another example is the AFT, the American Federation of Teachers, where Bill Gates gave AFT $3.4M for “teacher quality initiatives” and $217, 200 for AFT conference expenses. See: Did Bill Gates Buy His Podium at the AFT Convention? Sometimes a breakdown of the numbers provides a more clear picture of the power and influence of money. | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Then there is money “with stipulations” that the Gates Foundation provided to NPR. The purpose of that money is “to support coverage of education issues on NPR programs, including the Morning Edition and All Things Considered”. The amount provided was $750,000. I don’t feel comfortable with that on many levels. | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | "There was also $301,768 given to Minnesota Public Radio. The purpose stated was to “strengthen the quality and quantity of reporting on issues related to the nation’s low college completion rates” which plays into the Gates’ agenda. The sad part is that NPR felt the need to take the money and potentially provide a skewed viewpoint on issues in education or report on some aspects of ed reform and not others." | Sep 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz | "Then there is the pocket-money for the Alliance for Education under the heading “general operating support” for $3,000 and the junket to Denver for $6,000 “to support a delegation of Seattle Public School district officials to meet with Brad Jupp and the administration in Denver for “best practices” on teacher labor agreements”. Denver, by the way, is being converted to all things ed-reform. Gates is financing much of that | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | "The list goes on but by now you’re probably starting to get the big picture. Broad and Gates have decided what is best for our children based on no experience in education and none of their own children or grand children in public schools. There has been no dialogue between parents and teachers." | Sep 05 00:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | AP made nice with Google now. guess AP figured out they needed Google more than Google needed them. After a few months of not being a part of Google news | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | That's just SEATTLE education... a mere drop in the bucket | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | He created an underground department of education | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | With privately-held HQs | Sep 05 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Now they expand to a London Branch | Sep 05 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Corpodonations Inc. | Sep 05 00:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Lession for AP and Murdock: you might have news content, but if eyes don't see it, its worthless | Sep 05 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch | Sep 05 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Now Debian's founder :-) | Sep 05 00:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @skhaen: Sign the EFF's campaign against #ACTA ! !lqdn !April !FSF !FSFE !ACTA ur1.ca/0a1o1 | Sep 05 00:51 | |
| MinceR | lesion? | Sep 05 00:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Seems like I will have to define my rules for when I'll blog in what language because now I'm not sure... | Sep 05 01:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz KDE 4.5 rulez!!! Awesome desktop!!! | Sep 05 01:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jerezim Yeah! New @LaQuadrature homepage is up! Comments/test über-welcome! http://www.laquadrature.net/ !ACTA | Sep 05 01:06 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: lesion for Murdoch? | Sep 05 01:07 |
| MinceR | would be nice, amirite? | Sep 05 01:08 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesion | Sep 05 01:08 |
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| schestowitz | He could get the same surgeon as Steve | Sep 05 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can also pull parts from the same corpse | Sep 05 01:08 |
| schestowitz | I say with doubt cause they don't like sharing | Sep 05 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Steve likes taking | Sep 05 01:09 |
| MinceR | it's better to kill another person :> | Sep 05 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Muroch says everyone is stealing | Sep 05 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Even when Fox does the exact same thing with RSS ('stealing') | Sep 05 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch could sue me for my initials | Sep 05 01:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the other one is immortal... has long tongue like Komoda lizard | Sep 05 01:10 |
| schestowitz | *do | Sep 05 01:10 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: I'd have thought RS would be more a Ford thing lol | Sep 05 01:10 |
| schestowitz | If you snip its tail, it will grow back | Sep 05 01:10 |
| MinceR | i'm immortal | Sep 05 01:11 |
| MinceR | if you snip my hair, it will grow back | Sep 05 01:11 |
| schestowitz | It hasn't many live cells | Sep 05 01:11 |
| schestowitz | You could make a wig out of it... for the sweaty one | Sep 05 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith KDE 4.5 rulez!!! Awesome desktop!!! >all it needs now it greater public awareness | Sep 05 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Installed Mandriva 2010.1 on my dad's desktop: I'm mesmerized by KDE 4.5. Now, I will buy a better machine to run KDE 4.5! :-D | Sep 05 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay I got to say that the way #launchpad lets you verify your #OpenGPG keys is _very_ astute | Sep 05 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I'm still on KDE 4.4 | Sep 05 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | "The one with all the sweat" --Borat | Sep 05 01:12 |
| MinceR | sweaty isn't worthy to wear my hair | Sep 05 01:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9yW_O9B7DtQlCaBQv72e-YBsdmgD9HU3GA05 | Sep 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/09/04/1617200/White-House-Fingers-PlayStation-As-Obesity-Culprit?from=rss | Sep 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Why does /. see a beta of Ubuntu as FP-worthy? Fail. | Sep 05 01:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Google, AP strike new deal on Web licensing rights | Sep 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: he'll send headhunters to get it | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Headhunters-literally | Sep 05 01:14 |
| *MinceR prefers Dissociated Press | Sep 05 01:14 | |
| schestowitz | that was addressed at MinceR | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | That'sZonker | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Novell's | Sep 05 01:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<schestowitz> Muroch says everyone is stealing" Well basically AP was saying the same thing | Sep 05 01:14 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: /. sees a n00buntu beta as FP-worthy because it's the closest thing to macos outside crApple | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | His blog name | Sep 05 01:14 |
| schestowitz | /. is out of here | Sep 05 01:15 |
| MinceR | the crApple fanboys love the stuff copied from macos | Sep 05 01:15 |
| MinceR | the m$ fanboys love mono | Sep 05 01:15 |
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| schestowitz | It was too much embarrassment anyway | Sep 05 01:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the developers maybe | Sep 05 01:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jVhFlOlMfklCSJqdk4xENQ7NfoYgD9I0R58O2 | Sep 05 01:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz It's awesome: They managed to get the g fx even on crappy Intel gfx cards. Cube, composite, zoom, amazing! | Sep 05 01:16 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe "Darwin" came too high | Sep 05 01:17 |
| schestowitz | And info about slavery, McCarthyism etc. | Sep 05 01:17 |
| schestowitz | "Objectionable" content | Sep 05 01:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The Press just hasn't figured out that the only place they get paid is on cable news networks, and newspapers. The latter being dinosaurs. Their product, news reporting, will have to be free and depend on advertising, for most people to consume it. | Sep 05 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Active Time Babble 8012 #1Up | Sep 05 01:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I install PCLinuxOS (latest) on two PCs next week | Sep 05 01:21 | |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: some people are still sub'ed to papers | Sep 05 01:24 |
| schestowitz | And many have TVs which they lie down in front | Sep 05 01:24 |
| schestowitz | They'll do neither in the future | Sep 05 01:24 |
| schestowitz | But the same malicious people in power will adapt and grab control of other medium types | Sep 05 01:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, its about greed and power | Sep 05 01:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Author Simon Singh speaks http://ur1.ca/1hqxy Say no to pseudoscience and organised frauds like British Chiropractic Association | Sep 05 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz PCLOS is good. My distro of daily use. Mandriva has a bigger repo, but it's also heavier. For high end machines, Mandriva's ok | Sep 05 01:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched Moon imdb.com/title/tt1182345/ ★★★★★ brilliantly lovely | Sep 05 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Excellent article: The Art of the Sex Scene @editorialdept reminded me of own angst writing !inconstantmoon http://www.ur1.ca/1hr0z !write | Sep 05 01:41 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz | But the same malicious people in power will adapt and grab control of other medium types <--- in fact it's a priority. the moves are already afoot. 'FOX for kids' for example. | Sep 05 01:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: FOX on mobile devices | Sep 05 01:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: those same 15 year olds who didn't even know there was a war in Iraq, are primed for whatever is being cooked up next | Sep 05 01:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: some fiction legitimising neo-war (drones & all the other cowardly tech) | Sep 05 01:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: perhaps this is why the insane focus on the myths of 9/11 | Sep 05 01:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: to keep the issue alive, throbbing and useful for propagandistic purposes | Sep 05 01:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: maybe it can be eked out for another war or two | Sep 05 01:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: maybe forever, like the myths of Pearl Harbour and Tonkin Gulf | Sep 05 01:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't think Bama will do anything with Iran, as far as a war. | Sep 05 01:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Sep 05 01:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's just one of the potentialities | Sep 05 01:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | the other fronts are widening | Sep 05 01:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | remember, war is *necessary* | Sep 05 01:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | the hardest part is finding subtexts | Sep 05 01:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | and even the clumsy, transparent lies of bush/cheney/blair WORKED | Sep 05 01:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | and there was no accountability | Sep 05 01:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | specifically, obama will never look in that direction | Sep 05 01:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | and we have this enormous ramified noise machine presided over by Murdoch to ensure that the reality is always blurred and obfuscated | Sep 05 01:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Why on earth did I just launch a world update on my laptop, uh? | Sep 05 01:51 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Obama will be out in 2 more years, if the economy stays this bad or gets worse. That when a war might happen. | Sep 05 01:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm Morality police crackdown: ♺ @eff Censored! Craigslist Adult Services Blocked in U.S. http://eff.org/r.4qz #censorship #wtf | Sep 05 01:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak difficult to say; I'd probably try to conclude that was GPLv2-only, but often it's an issue the developers never thought about | Sep 05 02:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to Toronto !jazz great Kira Callaghan sing "Put That Ring on my Finger" http://www.ur1.ca/0pywr | Sep 05 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana Is it possible here to use GPLv2's (that's COPYING's) "you may choose any version ever published" in case no version is specified? | Sep 05 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @webmink Unlikely but not impossible that some project just indicates "AGPL" as license; if post-2007 I think I'd assume AGPLv3+ | Sep 05 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ok after using !ubuntu 10.10 for couple of days now, it is by far has more polished feeling to what 10.04 was, even though it's a #beta | Sep 05 02:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, while I hope you are "after date of license released" theories are all true, I still have a hard time figuring out how they can be | Sep 05 02:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I first read your dent as suggesting that ESR has more singing talent than RMS; but better reading implies RMS talent ≥ ESR talent | Sep 05 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, My dent also said that ESR has more talent than Katy Perry, but I admit that was a back-handed compliment. | Sep 05 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I actually don't think those theories are so far-fetched | Sep 05 02:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak Possibly. I'd want to look at all the circumstances (e.g. suppose the copyright holder is a known GPLv3-phobe) | Sep 05 02:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Software Centre adds first ‘paid’ app – Fluendo DVD Player http://ur1.ca/1hrde #ubuntu | Sep 05 02:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, you need to write a paper on this or something. Without some well-argued backup, they just seem like crazy dude licensing rants. | Sep 05 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn My free software legal theories are a lot less crazy than some others | Sep 05 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I agree & I know whose theories you're talking about. But that's not something to aspire to, is it now? You should have a blog! | Sep 05 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I agree. I'm trying to write something up on #SunRPC actually | Sep 05 02:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The Ubuntu Software Center in #maverick is awesome! | Sep 05 02:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] "The commons as an actor in transforming global political economy" keynote address by prof Eben Moglen http://bit.ly/afOW2A [ogg] #SFLC | Sep 05 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !debian 7.0 named http://ur1.ca/1hrtb | Sep 05 03:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @trombonechamp !gnugeneration will have a guest lecture by @eletorsk tomorrow on #gnu_generation at this time: http://ur1.ca/1hrwq ... | Sep 05 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My brother @larryrusswurm's latest is priceless: "James Moore gets Cartoond" http://www.ur1.ca/1hs7r What a picture!! #cdnpoli !canada | Sep 05 04:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Sad state of remix and spin maintainers !fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624028#c26 | Sep 05 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @DZone "Progress Buy a Bridge in Brooklyn (Savvion BRMS) and make Del Boy Trotter Proud" http://dzone.com/KvTg #fb | Sep 05 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] On a mission to fix 2 !Debian RC bugs. | Sep 05 04:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] huzzah! typing "twitter" in the add widgets search box now returns the microblogging widget. :) | Sep 05 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] connection broke just now! :-( | Sep 05 05:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] getting ready to meet up with a #fedora ambassador: @lovenemesis | Sep 05 05:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @icathing This post by Lani Russwurm about Al Hubbard and the history of LSD in Vancouver is astounding: http://www.ur1.ca/1ht50 | Sep 05 05:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] u.nu has been discontinued because their hosting provider didn't like _links_ to child porn http://ur1.ca/1ht74 | Sep 05 06:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Prison inmate roasted alive in Arizona heat, state refuses to prosecute prison http://ur1.ca/1hpjf #douchebags | Sep 05 06:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Blackwater created shell companies to bypass laws, criminal responsibility http://ur1.ca/1hta1 #douchebags | Sep 05 06:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Curiously absent from the debate was anyone with any actual expertise regarding LSD."~ Lani Russwurm !q http://www.ur1.ca/1ht50 !canada | Sep 05 06:11 | |
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| ziggyfish | good afternoon | Sep 05 06:58 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, ziggyfish | Sep 05 07:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/31/h-p-ends-august-with-a-bang-settling-kickback-probe-for-55-m/ | Sep 05 07:37 |
| schestowitz | Corruption as the norm | Sep 05 07:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/08/woz_backs_patent_troll_paul_allen_for_standing_up_for_inventors.html | Sep 05 07:38 |
| schestowitz | Woz fail | Sep 05 07:38 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/08/trade-groups-policing-our-digital-copyrights-is-just-too-hard.ars | Sep 05 07:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "HP looked at buying Sun Microsystems before Oracle (ORCL) did but passed because the deal looked too expensive." http://ur1.ca/1hu21 | Sep 05 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=864&doc_id=196329&f_src=internetevolution_gnews | Sep 05 07:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-01/paul-allen-s-dog-ate-his-suit-against-apple-yahoo-ann-woolner.html | Sep 05 07:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! | Sep 05 07:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Oracle Vice President talked about the future relation of OpenOffice.org and Oracle." http://ur1.ca/1esth Interesting... | Sep 05 07:52 | |
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| schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/gaming.gadgets/09/02/cnet.samsung.galaxy.tab/index.html?hpt=Sbin | Sep 05 07:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-08-23/microsoft-will-offer-xbox-360-for-five-more-years.html | Sep 05 08:00 |
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| schestowitz | Until the whole franchise dies? | Sep 05 08:00 |
| schestowitz | THey can't afford another round | Sep 05 08:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz "Oracle Vice President talked about the future relation of OpenOffice.org and Oracle." http://ur1.ca/1esth Interesting... | Sep 05 08:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] Open-Source GPU Drivers Causing Headaches In KDE 4.5 http://post.ly/viZA | Sep 05 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linuxaria Webcam server on Linux 2 : Linuxaria http://post.ly/viaH | Sep 05 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to install Web Developer Tools in Ubuntu | Ubuntu Geek http://post.ly/vidj | Sep 05 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] O'Brien: Lawsuit exposes flaws in patent system - San Jose Mercury News http://post.ly/vif6 | Sep 05 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] USB-Based PSFreedom PS3 Exploit Now Adapted To Palm Pre http://post.ly/vihr | Sep 05 08:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner O'Brien: Lawsuit exposes flaws in patent system - San Jose Mercury News http://post.ly/vif6 | Sep 05 08:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ubuntu 10.10 beta arrives with new netbook UI http://post.ly/vijf | Sep 05 08:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 10.10 beta arrives with new netbook UI http://ur1.ca/1hl4c [via @silner ] | Sep 05 08:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII KDE 4.5 rocks! // GNOME users can give it a try by installing alongside GNOME | Sep 05 08:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yes, I won't get the 9K either! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZpQmYO8S5s #fb | Sep 05 09:47 | |
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| schestowitz | v | Sep 05 10:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/04/technology/04google.html?src=busln | Sep 05 10:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just reading a little more of Dracula's Journey...sorry I mean Tony Blair Journey....utter rubbish, its like a PR sheet from !microsoft | Sep 05 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | Does the video here show up for anyone? http://tinyvid.tv/show/2xrglw9dap138 | Sep 05 10:22 |
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| schestowitz | I get a hanging page | Sep 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's just me, can anyone have the video come up? | Sep 05 10:22 |
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| _Goblin | Good morning all... | Sep 05 10:26 |
| _Goblin | salut | Sep 05 10:26 |
| _Goblin | buenas dias. | Sep 05 10:26 |
| _Goblin | bonjour | Sep 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | hey | Sep 05 10:26 |
| _Goblin | :) | Sep 05 10:26 |
| schestowitz | I need a quick favour. Does the video show up for you here http://tinyvid.tv/show/2xrglw9dap138 | Sep 05 10:26 |
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| _Goblin | Ill have a look | Sep 05 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Make War, then Love - http://bit.ly/cQExbK nice summary of some key issues in human development #evolution #socialnws | Sep 05 10:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Tomorrow is labour day in the US | Sep 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | "Labor Day" | Sep 05 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Which means the opposite of the name | Sep 05 10:27 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yep vid shows fine | Sep 05 10:28 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: you want a screen grab to see the layout? | Sep 05 10:28 |
| schestowitz | No, it's OK | Sep 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | I had to restarted Firefox | Sep 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | It has this weird bug | Sep 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Where it stops showing a video from cache | Sep 05 10:29 |
| _Goblin | btw saw (finally) Pirates of Silicon Valley the film.... | Sep 05 10:29 |
| schestowitz | I know | Sep 05 10:30 |
| _Goblin | very good.....has Ballmer portrayed just how I thought he would be like... | Sep 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | You recommended it here | Sep 05 10:30 |
| _Goblin | ah | Sep 05 10:30 |
| _Goblin | forgot | Sep 05 10:30 |
| _Goblin | busy and tired... | Sep 05 10:30 |
| _Goblin | got two days off now. | Sep 05 10:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/65571 | Sep 05 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: that's great | Sep 05 10:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Event Video: Software Patents and the Commons http://ur1.ca/1hvmz #swpats #commons | Sep 05 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Insightful analysis. The PAP's sweeting the pot for citizens is a pure election tactic. We have no talents. Nada! http://ur1.ca/1hvnj #fb | Sep 05 10:32 | |
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| _Goblin | off topic: cola is finally dying I think.... | Sep 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Yeah... :-( | Sep 05 10:32 |
| _Goblin | its just bickering with a Linux flavour | Sep 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Also net abuse | Sep 05 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Like this: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/6b819748e64c676d# | Sep 05 10:33 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Sep 05 10:33 |
| _Goblin | I wish some of the advocates of Linux hadn't resorted to vulgarity.....they lost the moral high ground as soon as that happened. | Sep 05 10:33 |
| _Goblin | geekings | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | This is illegal, is it not? | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Intimidation | Sep 05 10:33 |
| MinceR | oh noes, vulgarity | Sep 05 10:33 |
| MinceR | what is the world coming to? | Sep 05 10:33 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: mmm sort of.....probably more of a telecomunications act offense, | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Homer: " | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Saying "hello" to each Facebook subscriber will certainly keep the | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Anonymous Coward busy - I hear there's about 500 Million of them - | Sep 05 10:33 |
| schestowitz | but I suppose it's as good a hobby as any to fill his otherwise | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | vacuous life with. | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 05 10:34 |
| _Goblin | theres no "intimidation" law so to speak.... | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: that's how they intimidate participants | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Like a bunch of criminals | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: sometimes they go further | Sep 05 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Insinuations they would come by | Sep 05 10:34 |
| _Goblin | I saw they named a Linux user (even his daughters details) on COLA. | Sep 05 10:34 |
| _Goblin | unfortunately its the way of the web and data. | Sep 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/4b50860ef35f8942# | Sep 05 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: they contact them too | Sep 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | People's wives, employers, etc | Sep 05 10:35 |
| schestowitz | To use their as peer pressure to quit Linux advocacy | Sep 05 10:35 |
| _Goblin | in one way it would be quite funny if they tried that with me...Ive had much worse that a Wintroll trying to find out where I live...much much worse. | Sep 05 10:36 |
| schestowitz | More stalkkking: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/7cbb159330bd39c6# | Sep 05 10:36 |
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| oiaohm | I am sorry to say comp.os.linux.advocacy is like saying please stalk me. | Sep 05 10:37 |
| schestowitz | THey turn this into gutter/wild west | Sep 05 10:37 |
| schestowitz | That's the intention | Sep 05 10:37 |
| schestowitz | To ruin forums | Sep 05 10:37 |
| schestowitz | They did the same in other fora | Sep 05 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Problem is even when it was Just linux people it was still the house of losers. | Sep 05 10:37 |
| _Goblin | its the community that they fear...organization and collection of Linux users...thats the danger of COLA to the Wintrolls. | Sep 05 10:37 |
| oiaohm | Most of us other Linux people were busy working on truly making programs work. | Sep 05 10:38 |
| oiaohm | And pushing working systems. | Sep 05 10:38 |
| _Goblin | shame is, its no where near the best example of a Linux community. | Sep 05 10:38 |
| schestowitz | They are now moving on to ruining other newsgroups: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/d7d6763f8a4f109f# | Sep 05 10:38 |
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| _Goblin | brb, going for a smoke. | Sep 05 10:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: really for me as long as they stay way from items like http://www.zentyal.org/ that truly threaten to sneak up and mug MS the better. | Sep 05 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft is using its two boosters to pretend that Silver Lie is not truly dying http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-silverlight-still-has-a-future-in-an-html-5-world/7298 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/02/microsoft_silverlight_html5_conflation/ | Sep 05 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | Mary and Gavin from the Microsoft podcast | Sep 05 10:41 |
| schestowitz | *LOL8 | Sep 05 10:41 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: never heard of it | Sep 05 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the prep development is running under the radar. | Sep 05 10:43 |
| oiaohm | ebox/Zentyal goal is to produce a direct competitor to MS SBS server. | Sep 05 10:43 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* just two Zune headlines in two whole weeks of news | Sep 05 10:43 |
| oiaohm | Now MS SBS server is microsoft largest selling server type. | Sep 05 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Basically longer MS is looking the wrong way wasting resources attacking items like advocacy the better. | Sep 05 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Think about it Mono correctly pushed could have damaged Linux future development. | Sep 05 10:46 |
| MinceR | how? | Sep 05 10:46 |
| oiaohm | MS could have been selling windows update system for Linux. Sharepoint for Linux .... Attempting to make all development .net based. Then release a OS that at core is designed to run .net well | Sep 05 10:48 |
| oiaohm | Linux is not really designed to run .net or java based Languages to there max. MinceR | Sep 05 10:48 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 05 10:48 |
| oiaohm | MS forgot there basic old rules. | Sep 05 10:49 |
| MinceR | they would have probably failed with that | Sep 05 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Embrace. | Sep 05 10:49 |
| MinceR | before they could release that new OS, people would have moved on to GNU/Linux | Sep 05 10:49 |
| oiaohm | MS never has truly attempted to properly Embrace Linux. | Sep 05 10:49 |
| MinceR | also, they couldn't ever design anything that functioned well | Sep 05 10:49 |
| MinceR | also, that new OS would have ran pre-.NET apps badly, and thus would have been doomed to fail. | Sep 05 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Also in that mix would have been a MS own fileserver for Linux. | Sep 05 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Basically full embrace. | Sep 05 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Cause open source projects not to have a home anywhere away from microsoft. | Sep 05 10:50 |
| MinceR | besides, what idiot would buy winblows update for gnu/linux? | Sep 05 10:50 |
| MinceR | it sucks horribly even on winblows | Sep 05 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Of course MS doing this would fail because they fail at doing quality software. | Sep 05 10:51 |
| MinceR | and on gnu/linux the package managers take care of updates | Sep 05 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Remember in this game MS still would have the advantage. | Sep 05 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Ie own protocals. MinceR | Sep 05 10:51 |
| oiaohm | Now leave Linux to its own devices and it can develop its own path and need MS less and less. | Sep 05 10:52 |
| MinceR | and that's part of why i'd have been reluctant to adopt .net even if they licensed the patents properly | Sep 05 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Yep screwing up the patent licensing was trying to have foot on both sides. | Sep 05 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie embrance and not embrance at the same time it don't work. | Sep 05 10:53 |
| oiaohm | MS has also forgot what help them to win the browser war. | Sep 05 10:53 |
| oiaohm | People forget IE for Unix. | Sep 05 10:53 |
| schestowitz | IDG's "Apple Holic" is saying this: http://blogs.computerworld.com/16816/android_army_plans_ipad_overthrow?source=rss_blogs | Sep 05 11:03 |
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| schestowitz | Does IDG have "UNIX holic" too? | Sep 05 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @harishpillay my connection broke during the #Fedora APAC meeting. also hoped @mchua would have been able to attend it. Next time... ? | Sep 05 11:22 | |
| oiaohm | Boy a apple fanboy schestowitz | Sep 05 11:26 |
| oiaohm | They need to go back and read Apple vs Dos | Sep 05 11:27 |
| oiaohm | Multi vendors always runs solo vendors under in time. | Sep 05 11:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A classic.....so true... "Metal will never die" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1F3HZLATbM&p=BB12CD646FFDD348&playnext=1&index=38 !metal | Sep 05 11:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @wiesngauditv: all information about the #Oktoberfest 2010: http://is.gd/eVV0p #Wiesn @koenigludwigi | Sep 05 11:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Let's just hope that #piwik will switch to HTML5 based graphs ASAP. AdobeTrash is #dontlike. | Sep 05 11:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Top 5 best puzzle games on Android !Android according to Pocketgamer http://ow.ly/2zIoh | Sep 05 11:37 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: jan says AdobeTrash now | Sep 05 11:39 |
| schestowitz | I think you came up with it | Sep 05 11:39 |
| MinceR | i might have | Sep 05 11:44 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure | Sep 05 11:44 |
| MinceR | i'll grep my logs when i have the time :> | Sep 05 11:44 |
| oiaohm | I remember seeing and typing Adobe Trash as two words quite a few times. No clue who joined them. | Sep 05 11:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @koenigludwigi: Mein FF Beitrag: @koenigintherese @bavaria @muenchnakindl zum Feste unserer Vermählung auf dero Theresienwiese! | Sep 05 11:47 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/359316/lenovo_tackle_microsoft_rival_kinect_console/ | Sep 05 11:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Iranian authorities seem hell bent on showing thmselves as vengeful bastards, any excuse to torture an innocent woman http://bbc.in/arEthC | Sep 05 11:57 | |
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| oiaohm | Wonder what OS is inside that gaming console schestowitz | Sep 05 12:04 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, me too | Sep 05 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo might use some Linux | Sep 05 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Common sense, but not done much before | Sep 05 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Remember that Linux based OSS console from last year | Sep 05 12:11 |
| schestowitz | It never made a debut | Sep 05 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Just a lot of prerelease announcements | Sep 05 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Mostly in OStatic | Sep 05 12:11 |
| schestowitz | And then it vanished | Sep 05 12:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Android is the future http://bbc.in/bkBCRf | Sep 05 12:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] why is #identica serach almost always #fail? Try to find user wiesngauditv ... | Sep 05 12:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are there any groups (aprt from the lyal fanbois) that Apple don't piss off? Customers, developers, distributers | Sep 05 12:17 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 05 12:22 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Sep 05 12:22 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:34 2010 | Sep 05 12:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @jwildeboer try the #collecta interface at http://search.identi.ca/ | Sep 05 12:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @etoy_TANKS etoy.BROOD is infesting korean kids. Generated brainwaves licensed unter Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 3.0 license. | Sep 05 12:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Piper Jaffray: More Clients Using Red Hat Than Microsoft's Windows http://ur1.ca/1hwvd !gnu !linux #server | Sep 05 12:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Upgraded the !nexusone to the leaked frg33 from ur1.ca/1hwyl !android | Sep 05 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] rp @doublechou: #OAuth support in !Choqok « Mehrdad Momeny http://goo.gl/3Wr | Sep 05 13:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-09-05: Ultra All Stars: The 2010 Sampler for Amazon This free sampler album (only downloadable by ... http://bit.ly/cmvU3u | Sep 05 13:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "To create, as a community, the leading international open source web analytics application" - #FTW #piwik http://piwik.org | Sep 05 13:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear @piwik - please setup an account on identi.ca ASAP :-) Cool people and they also use #piwik themselves AFAICS. | Sep 05 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @gbraad that also doesn't find the user (and it has google analytics and ChartBeat tracking bugs). | Sep 05 13:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Afghan captors release Japanese reporter http://is.gd/eW1JG | Sep 05 13:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Craigslist strikes adult services under pressure http://is.gd/eW1VE #censorship | Sep 05 13:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] crontab -u apache -e just saved my day. #RHEL #CentOS #note2self | Sep 05 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] RD @torproject: We are looking for more translators! We have some funding & lots of cool t-shirts! PLS email tor-translation. #anonymity | Sep 05 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wegen Sarrazin: Kann sich die Bundesbank keine vernünftigen Headhunter leisten? Und haben die keine Compliance/Ethics Regeln? #staun | Sep 05 15:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] ROFL! Bing vs. Ping http://i.imgur.com/JMnA3.png | Sep 05 15:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] I have no sound today on my !ubuntu desktop running #maverick #beta :( | Sep 05 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] nothing better than an afternoon without rain and 98 horse powers on two wheels under your seat #fz6 | Sep 05 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hrm okay my hopes to bring #compiz 0.9.0 to !gentoo today are gone … they moved to #CMake (and badly) … +_+ | Sep 05 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anti-Piracy Outfit Threatens To DoS Uncooperative Torrent Sites http://post.ly/vmFE | Sep 05 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Open Source Tools For Professional Photographers http://ping.fm/CppSd | Sep 05 16:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Net Neutrality is the wrong word to use IMHO. It should be called Data Discrimination. | Sep 05 16:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] War by any other name http://ur1.ca/1hz0d | Sep 05 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Net Neutrality is the wrong word to use IMHO. It should be called Data Discrimination. >tiered Web? | Sep 05 16:27 | |
| schestowitz | It would be nice if we had the data from this Red Hat vs Windows surveyhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48603754#notice-49005302 "Can't find the numbers. They surveyed 45 Red Hat partners, but did they publish a detailed report?" | Sep 05 16:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] In case you're ever looking for great chinese / asian food in #berlin, I can strongly recommend reading http://mealbymel.blogspot.com/ | Sep 05 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's amazing my grandfather is still allowed to drive at 86. He just got the "OK" again. | Sep 05 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @jwildeboer: Net Neutrality is the wrong word to use IMHO. It should be called Data Discrimination. | Sep 05 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Visiting the Orange County Humane Society at the pet shop, and wishing I could give all these sweet animals a home. | Sep 05 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @jwildeboer agreed. what if phone companies could degrade call quality depending on what you're speaking about? | Sep 05 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @lxoliva or countries depending on what you want to read? Wait .... | Sep 05 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva @jwildeboer yes, it's closely related to censorship through inconvenience | Sep 05 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | cEwww... Enderle still active http://www.conceivablytech.com/2575/business/apple-and-the-problem-for-hp-microsoft-and-samsung/ | Sep 05 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | Not so brutal this time | Sep 05 17:13 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Sep 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz | o/ | Sep 05 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Int'l climate treaty a pipedream http://ur1.ca/1i00f | Sep 05 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Posted an short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) | Sep 05 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Posted a short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) | Sep 05 17:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Ha. Managed to order beef noodle soup and green tea speaking Chinese in a Taiwanese restaurant in Berlin. | Sep 05 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mako Posted a short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. ( http://ur1.ca/1hzzu ) | Sep 05 17:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Church are hilarious, they have zero credibility, then complain that they don't get to spread their bigotry http://bbc.in/a4n1b8 | Sep 05 17:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Why must people who've never analyzed a FLOSS license before insist on showing up on IRC to tell me they've found interesting "loopholes"? | Sep 05 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Photo from 1st detention of Ali Abdulemam, a #blogger in handcuffs! How threatening #freespeech can be? http://ow.ly/i/3DoI .@bahrainrights | Sep 05 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] RT @jwildeboer: #NetNeutrality is the wrong word to use IMHO. It should be called #DataDiscrimination. | Sep 05 18:07 | |
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| amarsh04 | schestowitz, I just logged a support request with HP for my officejet pro printer - the operating system list gave several flavours of ms-windows, 5 of OSX, palm os, other, and "don't know" - even though it works perfectly with HPLIP, see http://paste.debian.net/87974/ | Sep 05 18:08 |
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| amarsh04 | 29 flavours of ms-win, in fact | Sep 05 18:10 |
| cubevector | new HP (kinf of) sucks, old HP was pretty good | Sep 05 18:10 |
| amarsh04 | at least my isp has an option of Linux/Unix/BSD for operating system when logging a support request | Sep 05 18:10 |
| cubevector | kind of even | Sep 05 18:10 |
| cubevector | I make friends with Bell techs for support :) | Sep 05 18:11 |
| cubevector | with toronto freenet, you need to make friends with Bell techs | Sep 05 18:11 |
| cubevector | in Canada at least | Sep 05 18:13 |
| amarsh04 | I just posted a rant on incorrect spellings of place names: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2010-September/018248.html | Sep 05 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Very off topic for that list | Sep 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz | It's always funny to spell names with US English | Sep 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Like Pearly Harbor | Sep 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Labor Day | Sep 05 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] New #quagga in !gentoo … testing is welcome, especially since I basically rewrote all of the init scripts :P | Sep 05 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How true! Friedman about what is wrong with the Singapore system (from 6;55 to 8:09) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNPl322EZA&NR=1 #fb | Sep 05 18:17 | |
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| amarsh04 | maybe off-topic for the list, but RMS will be speaking at a place that was a victim of numerous incorrect spellings | Sep 05 18:18 |
| amarsh04 | plus I corrected an earlier incorrect listing of the date that RMS will be speaking there | Sep 05 18:18 |
| *amarsh04 just noticed mis-spelling "Friday" in the subject of his rant | Sep 05 18:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Now online: Faces against #ACTA Join now! http://faces-against-acta.net/ thx! @gedankenstuecke | Sep 05 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More climate politics http://ur1.ca/1i0jp | Sep 05 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mako Posted a short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) | Sep 05 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Need to test this water filter out - cool idea! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11156031 #fb | Sep 05 18:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I hope we're the faculty and not the exploited grad students | Sep 05 18:37 | |
| cubevector | I'm amazed there is still one place using punched cards | Sep 05 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Outfit Threatens To DoS Uncooperative Torrent Sites - http://bit.ly/btX3db I do hope people won't retaliate against this action | Sep 05 18:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 19.15 Radio 4 UK Conservative economist Thomas Sowell on how America's greatness is being dismantled | Sep 05 18:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I'm unsure if I've completed PhD level work in FLOSS license theory. OTOH,I guess invention of !AGPL could've been my dissertation | Sep 05 18:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @mako Posted a short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) | Sep 05 18:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mako, thanks for writing that article. Use of proprietary software in FLOSS development is at *best* the greatest irony of software freedom | Sep 05 18:47 | |
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| schestowitz | India MD of Microsoft is quitting | Sep 05 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Just discovered 1st Reggae song I ever heard was actually written by Neil Diamond (UB40 covered). I really am a suburban kid: ur1.ca/1i158 | Sep 05 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] "Dixie" has come to live with us! She's part boxer, part red tick hound, a little pointer, and mostly "love hound." Sweet and gentle. | Sep 05 19:22 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so | Sep 05 19:25 |
| *sebsebseb looks forward to next week | Sep 05 19:25 | |
| sebsebseb | altough not that much I am looking forward to really | Sep 05 19:25 |
| sebsebseb | however | Sep 05 19:25 |
| schestowitz | "How Microsoft can save itself" | Sep 05 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | Linux Mint Debian Edition is on the verge of coming out so yeah :) something i'll vm | Sep 05 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Ha. | Sep 05 19:26 |
| schestowitz | In Reuters | Sep 05 19:26 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what's wrong with current/ | Sep 05 19:26 |
| schestowitz | ? | Sep 05 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they will have both | Sep 05 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Stena Don rig occupation short-lived http://ur1.ca/1i17f | Sep 05 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Starting to use my new Fedora partition. | Sep 05 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] By starting to republish IDG punditry, Reuters has now sunk to just posting blog flames from Microsoft business allies, e.g. Gralla. Sad. | Sep 05 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: !Lubuntu Control Centre proposal is beautiful AND ready to test! http://goo.gl/wUC6 | Sep 05 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Download new Lubuntu Control Centre .::. Size~: 29.32 KB | Sep 05 19:32 |
| *cubevector has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 05 19:35 | |
| schestowitz | Mint Debian- and Ubuntu-based? | Sep 05 19:37 |
| _Goblin | Didn't they say Mint was moving away from Ubuntu derivative? | Sep 05 19:39 |
| _Goblin | or maybe I dreamt it. | Sep 05 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone care about http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-F-2-0-Standalone-Tools-Update-for-Visual-Studio-2010-Shell-and-NET-4-0-153224.shtml | Sep 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it's better to leave it igored | Sep 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Than to explain why it's bad | Sep 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: exploring Debian | Sep 05 19:41 |
| schestowitz | gNewSense is the one moving | Sep 05 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Managed a bit of flash fiction for this week's @storycraft challenge: "Weeds" http://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/weeds/ | Sep 05 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | oh, and MEPIS before that | Sep 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | http://redmondmag.com/articles/2010/08/26/microsoft-gets-philosophical-about-ie-9-chakra-pains.aspx | Sep 05 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Chakra.. | Sep 05 19:43 |
| schestowitz | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/movements/Microsoft-India-lab-gets-new-MD/articleshow/6468863.cms | Sep 05 19:43 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft India lab gets new MD - Movements - News - Tech - The Times of India .::. Size~: 69.19 KB | Sep 05 19:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Groove Salad on #soma.fm | Sep 05 19:47 | |
| *twitter1 (~pbj@173-29-116-166.client.mchsi.com) has joined #techrights | Sep 05 19:52 | |
| twitter1 | :) | Sep 05 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Hi | Sep 05 19:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | In the social channel we were just talking about http://www.thegovmonitor.com/world_news/united_states/microsoft-to-invest-499-million-in-virginia-create-50-new-jobs-37772.html | Sep 05 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft To Invest $499 Million In Virginia, Create 50 New Jobs | Gov Monitor .::. Size~: 64.82 KB | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Thank Microsoft! | Sep 05 19:53 |
| twitter1 | did you see PJ's nice write up on Microsoft's anti-Google "crusade"? | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | The "Create job" PR | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: the latest? | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Texas case? | Sep 05 19:53 |
| twitter1 | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100904101642564 | Sep 05 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - A Peek Behind the Curtain of the Texas Antitrust Complaints against Google .::. Size~: 81.63 KB | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I haven't seen it | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that | Sep 05 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I'll add PJ's text | Sep 05 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I have a draft | Sep 05 19:54 |
| twitter1 | It's more than one case, I think. | Sep 05 19:54 |
| twitter1 | very good stuff. | Sep 05 19:54 |
| twitter1 | Looks like the direction Groklaw will go. | Sep 05 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I covered part of it before | Sep 05 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I have a post in draft, long one | Sep 05 19:56 |
| twitter1 | There's so much Microsoft misconduct that no one site can cover it all. | Sep 05 19:56 |
| twitter1 | Whole communities have to be devoted to each branch of it. | Sep 05 19:56 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <schestowitz> why is it "backward"? | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <schestowitz> I was there and liked it | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <schestowitz> But it seems to harbour bad people | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:52] <schestowitz> Those who lobby nearby in DC | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:56] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: it's one of the 'poor' states. like Louisiana, Tennessee, etc | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | [19:56] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: Alabama | Sep 05 19:58 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: Google ought to know all this | Sep 05 19:59 |
| twitter1 | LOL, -> “I am delighted that the County, the Tobacco Commission, and Governor McDonnell’s office worked well together for the good of the region,” said Senator Frank Ruff, a member of the Virginia Tobacco Indemnification and Community Revitalization Commission. “It is great that a company of the stature of Microsoft has seen what Mecklenburg County has to offer.” | Sep 05 19:59 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft would accuse them of witchhunting for saying more | Sep 05 19:59 |
| schestowitz | IBM called it "satellite proxies" | Sep 05 19:59 |
| twitter1 | Wired did a write up of the weekly "screw Google" meetings a year or two ago. These new lawsuits are the fruit of those efforts. | Sep 05 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: why compete? | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't work | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | So has to cheat | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Later on they'll do Enderlevisinism | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | And pretend Google just "killed itself" | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Gotta love the one who kills and then burns books | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | There's some disturbing whitewashing this week | Sep 05 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Or Brad Silverberg | Sep 05 20:02 |
| schestowitz | In several sites | Sep 05 20:02 |
| schestowitz | They try to wash his crimes, it would seem | Sep 05 20:02 |
| schestowitz | His name would show up with techrights in search | Sep 05 20:02 |
| schestowitz | And now it's all just puff pieces | Sep 05 20:02 |
| *mitsuhiko has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) | Sep 05 20:02 | |
| twitter1 | I think it is amusing that Microsoft would get itself tied up with a "Tobacco Indemnification and Community Revitalization Commission" | Sep 05 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Gates uses the same tactics | Sep 05 20:03 |
| schestowitz | This week I'll do a post about the latest scandal | Sep 05 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961036-7/fulltext | Sep 05 20:04 |
| twitter1 | here's that old Wired story http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/20/1310200 | Sep 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Health and philanthropy—the tobacco connection : The Lancet .::. Size~: 23.27 KB | Sep 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot | The In-Progress Plot To Kill Google .::. Size~: 146.04 KB | Sep 05 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/7950703/australian-academic-calls-out-bill-gates" title="Australian academic calls out Bill Gates | Sep 05 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/australian-academic-calls-out-bill-gates-20100825-13r3v.html | Sep 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Australian and World News - Main Stories - ninemsn News .::. Size~: 141.03 KB | Sep 05 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/7950703/australian-academic-calls-out-bill-gates | Sep 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Australian and World News - Main Stories - ninemsn News .::. Size~: 140.99 KB | Sep 05 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://topnews.co.uk/211635-aussie-academic-campaigner-challenges-gates-commitment-towards-tobacco-control-projects | Sep 05 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Bill is close to some of these groups | Sep 05 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Aussie Academic Campaigner Challenges Gates’ Commitment towards Tobacco Control Projects | TopNews United Kingdom .::. Size~: 50.07 KB | Sep 05 20:05 |
| schestowitz | E-mail Mary Jo Microsofty | Sep 05 20:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/more-microsoft-codenames-than-you-can-shake-a-stick-at/7296 | Sep 05 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More Microsoft codenames than you can shake a stick at | ZDNet .::. Size~: 104.44 KB | Sep 05 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Tell her what kind of company she promotes for a living | Sep 05 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I have no sympathy for such people | Sep 05 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rofrol/@rofrol] Malaysian Muslims Go for Gold, But It's Hard to Make Change http://ur1.ca/1i1iq http://ur1.ca/1i1ir | Sep 05 20:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Malaysian Muslims Go for Gold, But It's Hard to Make Change - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 152.07 KB | Sep 05 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hacker News | Return of The Gold Currency .::. Size~: 5.43 KB | Sep 05 20:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marbridgeconsulting.com/marbridgedaily/2010-08-25/article/38646/mowom_sues_microsoft_for_financial_losses | Sep 05 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mowom Sues Microsoft for Financial Losses | Marbridge Consulting - China Hardware & Software News and Market Research .::. Size~: 22.33 KB | Sep 05 20:07 |
| twitter1 | Looks like the current Governor of Virginia is also an oil industry tool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McDonnell#Offshore_drilling | Sep 05 20:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bob McDonnell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 285.36 KB | Sep 05 20:08 |
| twitter1 | -> On May 25, McDonnell reaffirmed his interest in having oil drilling off the Virginia coast notwithstanding the BP oil spill and the inability of Virginia to get any of the royalty income from such drilling under current law.[133] On May 27, President Obama announced that the offshore Virginia lease sale was cancelled | Sep 05 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Sep 05 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Where is his quote re msft from? | Sep 05 20:08 |
| schestowitz | The dc article? | Sep 05 20:09 |
| schestowitz | The post from Groklaw is very handy, it also shows pertinent groups well. Must have taken a white to research. | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | *shile | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | *while | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | SHe was right about Florian | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | At some stage I got closer to see what he was on about | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Then his anti-"Groklie" venom came out | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | He tries to inciate reporters against sites like mine too | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | In Twitter for example | Sep 05 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Now, *that's* a tool | Sep 05 20:11 |
| twitter1 | I've seen Florian calling you "Boycott boy", how very flattering. | Sep 05 20:12 |
| MinceR | m$ fanboys/astroturfers like to call us that | Sep 05 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Mary Jo grew closer to her masters: http://redmondmag.com/articles/2010/09/01/what-is-microsofts-next-billion-dollar-business.aspx | Sep 05 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What Is Microsoft's Next Billion-Dollar Business? -- Redmondmag.com .::. Size~: 74.99 KB | Sep 05 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Now she writes _only) puff pieces, even in their mags | Sep 05 20:14 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: yeah, he did that dozens of times | Sep 05 20:14 |
| schestowitz | It's the name OOXML and Mono people use to refer to me | Sep 05 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Some of them compare to Republicans | Sep 05 20:15 |
| twitter1 | they do this because they are unable to argue the facts | Sep 05 20:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2011980,00.html | Sep 05 20:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mark Hurd: Who Will Hire the Ousted Hewlett-Packard CEO? - TIME .::. Size~: 52.76 KB | Sep 05 20:16 |
| twitter1 | Florian has pretty much disgraced himself | Sep 05 20:16 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: some Twitter accounts are dedicated just to harrassing me | Sep 05 20:16 |
| schestowitz | *harassing | Sep 05 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] You don't stay rich by paying for your own expenses http://bbc.in/biP2cR | Sep 05 20:17 | |
| twitter1 | yes, there are lots of astroturfers on Twitter | Sep 05 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Archbishop says UK taxpayer should help fund Pope visit .::. Size~: 52.46 KB | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft Florian speaks to these account | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | *accounts | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: on Digg too | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | It's imploding now, which is sad | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I contributed a lot to them | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | But trolls ruined it | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Ruined the UNIX/Linux section | Sep 05 20:17 |
| twitter1 | that is what Microsoft does to real communities | Sep 05 20:17 |
| MinceR | was it ever not a hive of crApple fanboys? | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | And made imposters accounts, spread libel | Sep 05 20:17 |
| schestowitz | At least Digg was responsive | Sep 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Digg banned like 4 accounts when I E-mailed them | Sep 05 20:18 |
| MinceR | well, since now m$ is fighting communities, not companies, it's expected that they attack communities now | Sep 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Abusive accounts and imposters | Sep 05 20:18 |
| twitter1 | all of Microsfot's destructive actions do not make them any more successful | Sep 05 20:18 |
| MinceR | wow, 4 whole accounts | Sep 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Some using my pictures and making gay remarks | Sep 05 20:18 |
| MinceR | that must have made a huge dent :> | Sep 05 20:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it did | Sep 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | They stopped bothering after a while | Sep 05 20:19 |
| MinceR | their destructive actions did keep them around for a while | Sep 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Same in other sites | Sep 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | COLA/USENET has no moderation | Sep 05 20:19 |
| schestowitz | So impostering/libel goes entouched | Sep 05 20:19 |
| MinceR | they would have probably died in the win9x era otherwise, imo | Sep 05 20:19 |
| twitter1 | PJ had the right idea about "throwing the trolls over the fence" | Sep 05 20:20 |
| schestowitz | "throwing *their fannies*" | Sep 05 20:20 |
| schestowitz | But I don't do that | Sep 05 20:20 |
| schestowitz | We banned only like 3 people in Techrights, ever | Sep 05 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Mutex et al | Sep 05 20:20 |
| twitter1 | and you kept their remarks for the record | Sep 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | +nyms | Sep 05 20:21 |
| MinceR | we don't ban enough trolls, imo | Sep 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | I count nymshifts as one | Sep 05 20:21 |
| twitter1 | you do enough to keep them from disrupting | Sep 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: yes, we never deleted a comment | Sep 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Ban means they can't make new comments, unless they ban-evade (just like 3 people) | Sep 05 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mako Posted a short article on the use of non-free tools to build free software. (http://ur1.ca/1hzzu) | Sep 05 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Church reap their own whirlwind with their backwards attitudes and doctrine, why shouldn't they pay the security costs? | Sep 05 20:22 | |
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| schestowitz | eet was a disaster a long, long time ago | Sep 05 20:22 |
| MinceR | "eet"? | Sep 05 20:22 |
| twitter1 | a pain, not a disaster | Sep 05 20:22 |
| schestowitz | He cursed a lot | Sep 05 20:22 |
| schestowitz | He was never banned I think | Sep 05 20:23 |
| twitter1 | the more repulsive, the better for Microsoft, but they always have several trolls and at least one will be like Florian | Sep 05 20:23 |
| schestowitz | There's mutex, the Slashdot nymhifter who now abuses _Goblin /OpenBytes, and Bill Weisgerber | Sep 05 20:23 |
| schestowitz | That's about it | Sep 05 20:23 |
| schestowitz | The Slashdot nymhifter attacked commenters too | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Esp. twitter1 | Sep 05 20:24 |
| twitter1 | Pogson has a collection of them | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | He inherited some this year | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | They didn't exist before | Sep 05 20:24 |
| twitter1 | They may have moved there from Digg and Slashdot. | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | He feeds them too much, they love it there | Sep 05 20:24 |
| twitter1 | When a site is "tamed" the trolls move on. | Sep 05 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Trolling is natural at Redmond | Sep 05 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3901181/Why+Microsoft+CoFounder+Is+Suing+Tech+Industry.htm | Sep 05 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Microsoft Co-Founder Is Suing Tech Industry - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 134.89 KB | Sep 05 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/paul-allen-microsoft-co-founder-tech-pioneer-and-patent-troll-767 | Sep 05 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Paul Allen: Microsoft co-founder, tech pioneer -- and patent troll? | Adventures in IT - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 86.71 KB | Sep 05 20:25 |
| schestowitz | "Tags: intellectual property" | Sep 05 20:26 |
| schestowitz | IDG ... feh.. | Sep 05 20:26 |
| twitter1 | trolls attack and drive off community members they don't like and try to subvert the rest | Sep 05 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 05 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Leaving won't help | Sep 05 20:26 |
| twitter1 | IDG and other traditional tech publishers have lost most of their audience | Sep 05 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Cause they move on | Sep 05 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] World food tragedy may be looming http://ur1.ca/1i1oh | Sep 05 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What are the chances that the CCTV almost disapperaed? Or that it'd be 'not guilty' if there was no public CCTV prrof? http://bit.ly/cUdctX | Sep 05 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | "Path of destruction | Sep 05 20:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police sergeant suspended after assault on woman | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 67.3 KB | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | COLA was a magnet to some | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | That's what it was made for | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | We kept them miserable there (the trolls) | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | To clear up/unclog the rest of USENET | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Today I read they proceeding to destorying the other Linux newsgroups | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | So predictable | Sep 05 20:27 |
| schestowitz | SOme years ago they expanded to Digg | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Targetting forums->Individuals | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Attack key individuals | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | To attack the forum | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Then proceed to next forum | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Identifdy alphas, attack | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Intimidate, smear, threaten | Sep 05 20:28 |
| twitter1 | Well, you know that Microsoft has vastly increased their "social networking" budget with the likes of Visible Technologies, etc. | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | When the alphas leave, the forums like /. are ruined | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Then they find out where people move | Sep 05 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I warned MinceR earlier... now they'll ruin reddit | Sep 05 20:29 |
| twitter1 | I'd say they have moved a large portion of their advertising budget from ordinary tech press to astroturf | Sep 05 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft published press releases anout activities in 'social networks' | Sep 05 20:29 |
| schestowitz | They pay people to subvert them | Sep 05 20:29 |
| schestowitz | No wage, prizes | Sep 05 20:29 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what i'm afraid of | Sep 05 20:30 |
| schestowitz | In the beginning of last century freemasons were hounded for this behaviour | Sep 05 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Secret societies and plans | Sep 05 20:30 |
| twitter1 | Yes, and Visible Technologies mission is to identify and discourage people opposed to Microsoft and encourage Microsoft tools. | Sep 05 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Ome gov delegates here warn that Microsoft+partners baheve similarly | Sep 05 20:31 |
| twitter1 | they are the trolls | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | The attack on Google is a timely example | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | And on IBM | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Mainframe | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | But the thing is, Microsoft calls the real people trolls | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | And its agents call out "trolls" | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Or "shill" | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Or "spammer" | Sep 05 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Etc. | Sep 05 20:32 |
| twitter1 | Microsoft partners get their marching orders from publications | Sep 05 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Stuck at the In-N-Out drive through !listening to FLOSSWeekly 129 Riak | Sep 05 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How can ANY Police Officer suspend him on FULL PAY after watching that video? Yeah, I know, loyalty to the other thugs with badges | Sep 05 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | To shift the discussion | Sep 05 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Like a wife beater brought to the polie station, then asks the cop, "why do YOU beat your wife?" | Sep 05 20:32 |
| twitter1 | they have weekly readers telling them how to compete, denigrate free software, etc. | Sep 05 20:32 |
| twitter1 | one of them once told me about these things | Sep 05 20:33 |
| twitter1 | partners get a lot of propaganda | Sep 05 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Wow. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/05/police-sergeant-suspended-assault-woman | Sep 05 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police sergeant suspended after assault on woman | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 63.24 KB | Sep 05 20:34 |
| twitter1 | heh, I wrote this about two years ago, " "Four years after Steve Ballmer vowed to kill Google, Wired details Microsoft's, AT&T's, and big publishers' ongoing slog. The story is filled with astroturfers, lobbyists and others spending millions to manufacture FUD about privacy and monopoly in order to protect the obsolete business models of their patrons, who are mostly known for progress-halting monopoly and invasion of privacy. Their gr | Sep 05 20:35 |
| twitter1 | The new set of lawsuits basically show's that Wired was on target. | Sep 05 20:36 |
| schestowitz | It was obvious at the time | Sep 05 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Wired was just widely read and cited | Sep 05 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] http://pk.gd/xQQ @lnxwalt280 | Sep 05 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Did the cops try to block the release of the CCTV under copyright laws by any chance? Is the person who leaked it sacked? | Sep 05 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb What are the chances that the CCTV almost disapperaed? Or that it'd be 'not guilty' ... http://bit.ly/cUdctX | Sep 05 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] At #bhcc seeing my therapist, robin williams. | Sep 05 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | Many including Groklaw and I covered it | Sep 05 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: @lnxwalt280 on Pikchur - Photo & Video Sharing! .::. Size~: 25.56 KB | Sep 05 20:37 |
| twitter1 | Shame on slashdot for labeling it "from the one-grain-of-salt-per-word dept." | Sep 05 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police sergeant suspended after assault on woman | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 63.21 KB | Sep 05 20:37 |
| schestowitz | And gave many examples in 07-08 | Sep 05 20:37 |
| schestowitz | therapist?!?! | Sep 05 20:37 |
| twitter1 | If PJ goes after it, good timelines will be created. | Sep 05 20:38 |
| MinceR | therapist | Sep 05 20:38 |
| schestowitz | the rapist | Sep 05 20:38 |
| schestowitz | robin williams is his pope | Sep 05 20:38 |
| schestowitz | But I think matt lee is not into dogmas | Sep 05 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/219026.asp?from=blog_last3 | Sep 05 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DelBene: Reichert 'part of the problem' in D.C. .::. Size~: 80.7 KB | Sep 05 20:39 |
| schestowitz | "On the surface, Suzan DelBene's challenge of Rep. Dave Reichert has a familiar look. In 2006 and 2008 Reichert beat Darcy Burner, a Democrat who worked at Microsoft who had no prior elected experience. DelBene is a Democrat who was an executive at Microsoft and other tech companies who also has never held office." | Sep 05 20:39 |
| schestowitz | More politicians for Sweaty | Sep 05 20:40 |
| twitter1 | I don't think Microsoft will be able to subvert or destroy FSF groups the way they have managed to mess with Open Source groups. | Sep 05 20:41 |
| twitter1 | http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page | Sep 05 20:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb Did the cops try to block the release of the CCTV under copyright laws by any chance? Is the person who leaked it sacked? | Sep 05 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Who needs venture capital? Become a venture customer to support !freesoftware and get your !FreedomBox www.reddit.com/tb/d9x6o !fsf !gnu !lp | Sep 05 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] we have a bug tracker plus support at http://bugs.foocorp.net for #gnusocial now. If you're thinking of using social, we'd love to help !gnu | Sep 05 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Who needs venture capital? Become a venture customer to support !freesoftware and get your !FreedomBox www.reddit.com/tb/d9x6o !fsf !gnu !lp | Sep 05 20:42 | |
| twitter1 | " The LibrePlanet project is a global network of free software activists organized into teams working together to help further the ideals of software freedom by advocating and contributing to free software. The main activity of LibrePlanet is hosting regional teams that operate locally" | Sep 05 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | [20:41] <twitter1> I don't think Microsoft will be able to subvert or destroy FSF groups the way they have managed to mess with Open Source groups. | Sep 05 20:43 |
| schestowitz | They try to wedge in | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Separating groups | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | "why do you talk to X?" | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | She's a "zealot" | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | He's "imparactical" | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I've seen trolls do this too | Sep 05 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Etering commuities to fracture them | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Siding with one faction (non existent) | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | And pretending the rest are bad | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | In COLA the trolls try to do this | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | In Techrights to a lesser degreee | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Trying to expel regulars | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | And someone called SundayRefugee | Sep 05 20:45 |
| schestowitz | In the comments they play games | Sep 05 20:46 |
| schestowitz | They drive them away | Sep 05 20:46 |
| schestowitz | In Groklaw I've not seen it, maybe it's censored | Sep 05 20:46 |
| twitter1 | PJ does a good job of that | Sep 05 20:46 |
| twitter1 | it probably goes on outside the site, via email | Sep 05 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Xubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Beta Screenshot Tour http://goo.gl/X6Yx | Sep 05 20:47 | |
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| twitter1 | the TE's job is to make as much trouble as possible | Sep 05 20:48 |
| twitter1 | I enjoyed Eben Moglen's talk that you hosted. Thanks. | Sep 05 20:48 |
| twitter1 | pointed to, that is | Sep 05 20:49 |
| schestowitz | SOme folks from India showed it | Sep 05 20:49 |
| twitter1 | As usual, Moglen is on target and he had some wonderful quotes | Sep 05 20:49 |
| schestowitz | IRC is now connected to identica | Sep 05 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Mostly people who hang out in the site | Sep 05 20:49 |
| twitter1 | what does "connected to identica" mean? | Sep 05 20:50 |
| twitter1 | I particularly liked his question, "How many Einsteins have there been who were allowed to learn physics?" | Sep 05 20:51 |
| twitter1 | the answer, of course, is "only one" | Sep 05 20:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fastcompany.com/1685812/why-is-intel-buying-infineon | Sep 05 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, Commons are common | Sep 05 20:51 |
| schestowitz | But people take the notion for granted | Sep 05 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear physics is something Gates and ilk (IV) try to get a monopoly on right now | Sep 05 20:52 |
| schestowitz | That's why Bill lobbies the US govt. for nuclear energy | Sep 05 20:52 |
| twitter1 | The notion that most people have yet to grasp is that electronic publication can make the whole of human culture available to everyone right now. | Sep 05 20:52 |
| schestowitz | While he puts his money where the money is - oil | Sep 05 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Had an argument today with someone over sharing | Sep 05 20:53 |
| twitter1 | Nuclear energy building would do GE and Westinghouse a lot of good. | Sep 05 20:53 |
| schestowitz | People can't grasp that sharing code is not like sharing bread | Sep 05 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Putting something in a public repo does not require extra burden, either | Sep 05 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Unless there's "support" | Sep 05 20:53 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: that's why MSNBC would promote it | Sep 05 20:53 |
| schestowitz | GE | Sep 05 20:54 |
| twitter1 | Christians have a built in reference and argument for free sharing, the miracle of fishes and loaves | Sep 05 20:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20015015-501465.html | Sep 05 20:54 |
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| twitter1 | if you could feed the world with a single loaf of bread, who would dare stop you? | Sep 05 20:54 |
| twitter1 | yet the whole world can be educated and publishers stand in the way | Sep 05 20:55 |
| schestowitz | "Printed encyclopedias are pretty much dead, and so even are DVD-based encyclopedias such as Microsoft's Encarta. " | Sep 05 20:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/oxford-english-dictionary-to-go-all-digital | Sep 05 20:55 |
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| twitter1 | Moglen points out that this crime is politically impossible to continue and that the publishers will lose | Sep 05 20:55 |
| schestowitz | AP signed a Google deal | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can't be happy | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Surely that too is "paedophilia" | Sep 05 20:56 |
| twitter1 | everything already is digital and could be shared if publishers would get out of the way | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Eric the pedo | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Lets kids search | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | publishers=meta-industry | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Like lawyers | Sep 05 20:56 |
| schestowitz | One thing almost everyoen agrees with, it turns out | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Many want to be lawyers | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | But they know it's a parasitical occupation | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | That's one area where I don't like Groklaw's attitude | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | it promotes lawyers' cause | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | It also used to defend patenting | Sep 05 20:57 |
| twitter1 | lawyers are not supposed to be parasites, they are supposed to avoid conflict rather than promote it. | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | But that's to do with self interest | Sep 05 20:57 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: in theory-yes | Sep 05 20:58 |
| twitter1 | parasitical lawyers are a disgrace | Sep 05 20:58 |
| schestowitz | "Defence" industry is supposed to provide tools when under attack | Sep 05 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Not to provoke for wars | Sep 05 20:58 |
| twitter1 | Moglen, for example, is a lawyer | Sep 05 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Make white phosphorous spread so you get contracts to mine for me | Sep 05 20:58 |
| twitter1 | one that's doing what's right | Sep 05 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Or enriched uranium | Sep 05 20:59 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: for him too | Sep 05 20:59 |
| schestowitz | He makes money from it | Sep 05 20:59 |
| schestowitz | FFII would remind me that SFLC has an agenda too | Sep 05 20:59 |
| schestowitz | And I don't know if it's Microsoft's Turfers or real sceptics who speak about their funding sources | Sep 05 21:00 |
| schestowitz | They poisoned this well | Sep 05 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLNE67U02020100831 "Microsoft's share price has famously done little for the past decade." | Sep 05 21:00 |
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| twitter1 | I remember Florian FUDing the SFLC, but it was all BS. | Sep 05 21:01 |
| twitter1 | Florian is very much an astroturfer | Sep 05 21:01 |
| twitter1 | he smeared PJ in the same breath, counting on the ignorance of the audience | Sep 05 21:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] RIP: swathanthran (aka: Shyam) ; when i saw this message http://bit.ly/b73mxd I didn't know its him. We used to have fun in #emacs-in @abbe | Sep 05 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | twitter1: he is quiet now | Sep 05 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't think people pay attention to him and FFII ridicules him a lot | Sep 05 21:02 |
| schestowitz | FFII owns his anti-swpats old projects | Sep 05 21:03 |
| twitter1 | probably spends his time spamming journalists | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | He's disowned by his old project in a sense | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | And Jan from Red Hat told me Florian only develops in .NET | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Which took me by surprise in a way | Sep 05 21:03 |
| twitter1 | I don't know much about his old projects, only that he was full of beans here. | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: no | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Few listen | Sep 05 21:03 |
| schestowitz | You may see his name here and there | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | But even if he gets a 1% hit rate it's seen | Sep 05 21:04 |
| twitter1 | he burnt his credibility quickly | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | I used to publish some of his tripe for balance | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Then I found out... | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | That he was not mailing just me | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | He sprayed everywhere and personalised | Sep 05 21:04 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-allen-20100902,0,1881106.story | Sep 05 21:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @dpic Who needs venture capital? Become a venture customer to support !freesoftware and get your !FreedomBox www.reddit.com/tb/d9x6o ... | Sep 05 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Kazam Screencasting tool 0.1 released - "the best screencasting tool available on Linux right now." http://goo.gl/m0xx | Sep 05 21:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Install #Kazam Screencasting tool from the Daily Build !PPA: http://goo.gl/7I2e | Sep 05 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Collin Pruitt: #Ubunchu (the !Ubuntu manga) Episode 7: “The Ultimate Installfest” is out http://goo.gl/pAap | Sep 05 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Clementine 0.5 RC1 Released With iPod, MTP Music Players And USB Mass Storage Disk Support http://goo.gl/2Mp0 | Sep 05 21:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Stop the Gaza blockade http://ur1.ca/1i244 | Sep 05 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I find that #shocking too, but as for you being a suburban kid, that was clear from your #Chuck_E_Cheese and #Rush references | Sep 05 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Foundem And The Google Anti-Trust Case – Thanks To Groklaw.net http://bit.ly/9L8LpR | Sep 05 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Actually ∄ #Chuck_E_Cheese in Brooklyn when you were growing up? No one in your class liked #Rush? What's first Reggae you heard? | Sep 05 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn by time I was going to middle school (in #Manhattan), already clear that #Rush was suburban and deprecated | Sep 05 21:37 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Sep 05 21:44 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Sep 05 21:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] http://www.madebymonsieur.com/ostatus_discovery/ confirms my domain points to an #ostatus account (identi.ca), handy validation tool | Sep 05 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Ah, #boston... never more than 50 metres from a dunkin donuts.. | Sep 05 21:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Great! Go !chrome! I've had no flash/java crashes or segfaults since I dumped !firefox. | Sep 05 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !firefox = !gnome (slow bloated and buggy) !chrome = !openbox (fast, light and reliable) | Sep 05 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just trying to remember the last time I had a segfault or any other type of freeze. !crunchbang !openbox !chrome #winning #combination | Sep 05 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #sullivansquare #mbta #orangeline | Sep 05 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #bhcc #mbta #orangeline | Sep 05 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #northstation #mbta #orangeline | Sep 05 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #haymarket #mbta #orangeline | Sep 05 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #state #mbta #orangeline | Sep 05 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #downtowncrossing #mbta #orangeline #washington | Sep 05 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @bkuhn front end of the outbound #orangeline is temple place, on inbound its franklin st. weird. | Sep 05 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I want a suntan, not Vashti Bunyan.. | Sep 05 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Going mad today due to a bad mouse or motherboard (not sure yet what's causing all the trouble) | Sep 05 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,well,all #Rush 's deprecation in your middle school shows is that you're older than I am. :) OTOH I agree things move faster in NYC | Sep 05 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #massave #mbta | Sep 05 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, you're saying !NYC pizza shops give you recipes w/ their pizzas, while #Chuck_E_Cheese doesn't? That's only way analogy applies. | Sep 05 22:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I don't consider UB40 a Reggae band, either, but I liked the song at 10 yrs old & my art teacher then told me about Bob Marley. | Sep 05 22:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Excellent story about Edison & his attempt to control the movie industry with patent suits and a patent pool: http://icio.us/sexlzl | Sep 05 22:26 | |
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| schestowitz | Ha | Sep 05 22:37 |
| schestowitz | It was a mouse problem after all | Sep 05 22:38 |
| schestowitz | It seems like after suffering for 12 hours with a jumpy mouse just changing to a different one did the trick | Sep 05 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @bkuhn UB40 isn't even a band. | Sep 05 22:46 | |
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| _Goblin_ | schestowitz: I had that problem (mouse) | Sep 05 22:48 |
| schestowitz | If only I knew what it was earlier | Sep 05 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Ignored too long, then smashed the mouse when it became unberable | Sep 05 22:49 |
| schestowitz | Then narrowed down causes | Sep 05 22:49 |
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| twitter1 | did techrights cover Google's dumping of Windows? | Sep 05 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 05 22:54 |
| twitter1 | got link? | Sep 05 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm a bit crabby today | Sep 05 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Overslept, had mousing issues, unexpected guests... | Sep 05 22:55 |
| twitter1 | I'll try to cheer you up. | Sep 05 22:55 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Sep 05 22:55 |
| schestowitz | twitter1: look for Google's announcement's date, then check the site. We did several posts about it at the time | Sep 05 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @webmink Excellent story about Edison & his attempt to control the movie industry with patent suits and a patent pool: http://icio.us ... | Sep 05 22:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RIAA, MPAA, etc: beware. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/thomas-edisons-plot-to-hijack-the-movie-industry/all/1 | Sep 05 22:56 | |
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| twitter1 | cool. I see you also did a good story on Microsoft's bogus anti-trust attack on Google. http://techrights.org/2010/03/02/microsoft-role-in-attacks/ | Sep 05 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | This one toio | Sep 05 22:58 |
| schestowitz | It's in my draft | Sep 05 22:58 |
| schestowitz | That's one where Microsoft admits its role | Sep 05 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Debian 7.0 named http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Debian-7-0-named-1072569.html !gnu !linux | Sep 05 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Twitter "who to follow" suggests people with private turned on their accounts? | Sep 05 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !canada post: The evolution of @mpjamesmoore http://whoacanada.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/the-evolution-of-mpjamesmoore/ !bill32 #cdnpoli | Sep 05 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “Samsung releases Epic 4G source code”: http://bit.ly/9Yec4y | Sep 05 23:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Dana has become a tool of Microsoft Florian http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/how-ibm-hopes-to-make-the-cloud-proprietary/7272 | Sep 05 23:04 |
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| twitter1 | Dana should pay more attention to the FSF. Florian's attack on them was a real reputation burner that Dana is probably not aware of. | Sep 05 23:06 |
| twitter1 | Here's a little update to the Call out Windows Wiki page. :-D http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Call_Out_Windows | Sep 05 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | Dana is not pro FSF or Linux | Sep 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | He made it clear | Sep 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | He tries to be fair to them, though | Sep 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | After all, his blog title says "Linux" (which he doesn't used and never tried until a year or two ago) | Sep 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/09/are-you-intimidated-by-breakfa.html | Sep 05 23:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are You Intimidated By Breakfast Cereal? - O'Reilly Broadcast .::. Size~: 116.5 KB | Sep 05 23:09 |
| twitter1 | People who want to be fair to themselves realize they want their software freedom and quit trying to be "fair" to those who violate it. | Sep 05 23:09 |
| *Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message) | Sep 05 23:10 | |
| schestowitz | they see free differently | Sep 05 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] What a lazy long weekend! | Sep 05 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft Florian | Sep 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Freedom to choose | Sep 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | "Choice" as "freedom" | Sep 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Mac vs PC for example | Sep 05 23:11 |
| twitter1 | Microsoft Florian answers to those who pay him. | Sep 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Obama or McCain | Sep 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Freedom to vote | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | not liberty | Sep 05 23:12 |
| twitter1 | "Choice" is a Microsoft talking point, nothing more. | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | OOXML or ODF | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Choice | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Choice between mutually incompatible things | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Not choice between office suites | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Talking points, marketing | Sep 05 23:12 |
| twitter1 | Choose to enslave yourself. | Sep 05 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Repeat Repeat | Sep 05 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat | Sep 05 23:13 |
| twitter1 | it's not really a choice | Sep 05 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Call IBM "bullying machine" | Sep 05 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Repeat Repeat | Sep 05 23:13 |
| twitter1 | it's failing to protect yourself from an agressor | Sep 05 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Call Google pedo | Sep 05 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Repeat Repeat | Sep 05 23:13 |
| twitter1 | The nice thing is that none of this seems to fool the technically competent. | Sep 05 23:14 |
| MinceR | the not-so-nice thing is that technically competent people are hard to come by | Sep 05 23:14 |
| twitter1 | they are more common than you think | Sep 05 23:15 |
| twitter1 | The rich and powerful have had a big problem for most of the 20th century, that they need people smart enough to run their machines but dumb enough to be exploited. | Sep 05 23:16 |
| twitter1 | They answered this problem with control of media, broadcast and print | Sep 05 23:17 |
| twitter1 | they have lost that control now, so people are able to see how they are cheated | Sep 05 23:18 |
| twitter1 | and people increasingly demand justice | Sep 05 23:18 |
| twitter1 | are harder to divide | Sep 05 23:18 |
| sebsebseb_ | Someone gave this link out a little while ago in #ubuntu http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/05/google_buzz_suit_settlement/ | Sep 05 23:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google pays $8.5m to settle Buzz privacy invasion suit • The Register .::. Size~: 24.63 KB | Sep 05 23:18 |
| schestowitz | ACTA being an example, I gues | Sep 05 23:18 |
| schestowitz | New site: | Sep 05 23:19 |
| twitter1 | ACTA is an example of the rich and powerful circumventing democracy through a treaty. Protest against ACTA is a good sign. | Sep 05 23:20 |
| twitter1 | but the central point of ACTA is to regain control of media | Sep 05 23:21 |
| twitter1 | tyranny depends on ignorance | Sep 05 23:22 |
| schestowitz | http://faces-against-acta.net/ | Sep 05 23:22 |
| twitter1 | I'll check that out, thanks. Best wishes to everyone, I've got a few things to do. | Sep 05 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUiUyVqOuJI | Sep 05 23:34 |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 05 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/9/2010: !KDE SC 4.5 Coverage, Systemd in !Fedora 14, !Debian 7.0 Named http://ur1.ca/1i38f !techrights | Sep 05 23:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 5/9/2010: KDE SC 4.5 Coverage, Systemd in Fedora 14, Debian 7.0 Named | Techrights .::. Size~: 124.15 KB | Sep 05 23:46 |
| schestowitz | "Is it true that #Mafiasoft actually claims #Silverblight is better than #HTML 5? :D" http://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/status/23088943870 | Sep 05 23:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Omar S. Hafez: @schestowitz Is it true th ... .::. Size~: 12.11 KB | Sep 05 23:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Discovered that Opera seems to have webm and ogg support built in. Yay, Opera! | Sep 05 23:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I just found @stephenfry and @w0ssy on !identica. Are bthey fake like the copycats on Facebook? | Sep 05 23:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope indeed | Sep 05 23:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140: yep, I think starting from Opera 10.61 pretty cool stuff! | Sep 05 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | Silverlight is better... it *is* better... for Microsoft :-) | Sep 05 23:59 |
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