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schestowitz"@sandersch @schestowitz #openSUSE 'investigates' at what #Fedora does ;-)" http://identi.ca/conversation/48761938#notice-49217629Sep 07 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.61 KBSep 07 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So a popular Windows package gets requests for a Linux version (the most requested feature)....what does that say about Linux?Sep 07 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] But as some #microsoft faithful say....Linux is less than 1% market share.... just like they claimed the #Kin was a good product...Sep 07 00:21
cubevectorit's more than 1%Sep 07 00:26
cubevectorstop with the 1% talkSep 07 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 6/9/2010: !Debian 5.0.6, Many More #Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/1iulo !techrights !gnu !linuxSep 07 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Rachel Corrie lawsuit proceeds http://ur1.ca/1iuovSep 07 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 6/9/2010: Debian 5.0.6, Many More Android Tablets | Techrights .::. Size~: 111.53 KBSep 07 00:26
_Goblincubevector: of course it is....that stat post written by whoever it was keeps getting linked and advocated by the MS faithfulSep 07 00:30
_Goblinas a "justication" of why Windows is great.Sep 07 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] 5 great content discovery sites which aren't Digg http://ur1.ca/1iuulSep 07 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 great content discovery sites which aren't Digg .::. Size~: 89.73 KBSep 07 00:31
cubevectorI'd say it's probably about 4% to 5%Sep 07 00:33
schestowitz[00:16] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [openbytes/@openbytes] The devs of the popular Windows uTorrent package say "a Linux version was immediately the most requested feature" .....0.85%??? !microsoft !Sep 07 00:33
schestowitzServer or desktop?Sep 07 00:33
cubevectorI assume googlebot is LinuxSep 07 00:33
cubevectordesktopSep 07 00:34
schestowitzPayment for games stats also show the sameSep 07 00:34
cubevectorI had to use windows 7 on a modern laptop the other daySep 07 00:35
schestowitzThese also show GNU/Linux as most generous... more than people who can afford Macs and blow money on WIndowsSep 07 00:35
cubevectorit just suckedSep 07 00:35
cubevectorlots of adwareSep 07 00:35
schestowitzIt's like XPSep 07 00:35
cubevectorfor apps Linux is where it's atSep 07 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to Mint Cast 42...... !peppermint interview...great stuff! !linux !foss !peppermintSep 07 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Submitted my second bug to lanuchpad on #maverick !ubuntuSep 07 00:36
cubevectorLinux is most generous by farSep 07 00:37
_Goblinschestowitz: desktop.Sep 07 00:38
_GoblinI wrote about it a while ago....thought people needed reminding of what the uTorrent devs said.Sep 07 00:38
cubevectoralso I didn't like the 16:9 monitorsSep 07 00:38
cubevectorwell there is rtorrentSep 07 00:39
cubevectorwho needs uTorrent?Sep 07 00:39
cubevectordoesn't even need XSep 07 00:39
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Chips_B_MalroyThis article stumps me, as its from a very friendly MS fan site.  http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2010/09/microsofts_introduction_of_new.phpSep 07 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's Plans for Windows Phone 7 Are a Clear Violation of California Law - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly .::. Size~: 93.59 KBSep 07 00:42
cubevectorseattle ...Sep 07 00:42
cubevectortoo close to redmondSep 07 00:42
Chips_B_MalroyWhat I can see, is the article is talking about dumping a product (WP7) below cost to force out competitors.Sep 07 00:43
cubevectorbusiness as usual for the Big Bad MSep 07 00:43
Chips_B_Malroy"Microsoft is reportedly spending a billion dollars or more on development and marketing of Windows Phone 7--pretty much guaranteeing the company will take a loss on the product for years--in an effort to chip away at two California-based companies: Apple and Google."Sep 07 00:43
Chips_B_Malroy"All of which sounds like business-as-usual in the competitive tech industry. But, in fact, Microsoft's gambit is clearly illegal under California law. How do I know? I read the recent decision by a California Court of Appeal in the lawsuit against Village Voice Media."Sep 07 00:44
Chips_B_Malroy"The lengthy written decision by the appellate court judges makes it clear that everything Microsoft is doing--investing in the creation of an improved product and selling it at less than its true cost, with the express intent of harming a California competitor--is completely prohibited in the Golden State."Sep 07 00:44
Chips_B_Malroysorry, the blue links do not paste inSep 07 00:44
Chips_B_MalroyI think MS is safe, I doubt Google will sue them in CaliforiaSep 07 00:45
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: Seattle Weekly are differentSep 07 00:46
schestowitzThey occasionally cover Microsoft scandalsSep 07 00:46
Chips_B_Malroyah, I thought it was the same shill siteSep 07 00:46
schestowitzSeattle Times is the worse among those which pretend to be newsSep 07 00:46
Chips_B_Malroythank youSep 07 00:46
schestowitzThere are some mags like Redmond Dev and all...Sep 07 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @graziano a lot of people seem to have it... http://www.google.com/search?q="ideapad+s10-3t"+atherosSep 07 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The new !rhythmbox icon is hell of lot better looking than the rubbish icon for iTunes 10 :PSep 07 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @quaid http://questioncopyright.org/node/404 < Totally. Right. On. From @ninapaley #freeculture #freemeansfreedomSep 07 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google .::. Size~: 14.65 KBSep 07 00:46
schestowitzThese are more obviously Microsoft extensionsSep 07 00:46
Chips_B_Malroynice articles Roy for the holiday here, nice jobSep 07 00:47
Chips_B_Malroyas usualSep 07 00:47
Chips_B_Malroyhave you seen this one:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/06/mystery_ie_bug/Sep 07 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MS probes mystery IE bug • The Register .::. Size~: 25.69 KBSep 07 00:48
Chips_B_Malroy""A nasty vulnerability exists in the latest Internet Explorer 8," Evans wrote. "I have been unsuccessful in persuading the vendor to issue a fix.""Sep 07 00:49
Chips_B_Malroy"The vulnerability may exist in other versions of IE and appears to be an extension of a cross-browser cross domain theft first documented by Evans via his scarybeastsecurity blog last December. Evans claims Microsoft has been aware of the bug since 2008, producing a harmless proof-of-concept exploit to illustrate his concerns."Sep 07 00:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: wasn't Xbox sold at a loss in order to discomfit competitors?Sep 07 00:50
cubevectordid that work?Sep 07 00:50
cubevectorre: XboxSep 07 00:50
Chips_B_Malroyyes, that was in that article tooSep 07 00:50
FurnaceBoyXbox is on death row, iircSep 07 00:50
Chips_B_MalroyI only paste the highlightsSep 07 00:51
FurnaceBoyso, cubevector, long term it did notSep 07 00:51
FurnaceBoycubevector: the key is to have something people want to buySep 07 00:51
FurnaceBoycubevector: it beats dumpingSep 07 00:51
cubevectorlately there's been very little I want to buySep 07 00:51
Chips_B_Malroy"The vulnerability might just as easily be used by other services that use URL shortening, according to Ferguson, who says that Opera, Chrome, Firefox and Safari have all already fixed this vulnerability."Sep 07 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Why I don't use Brasero, 240 open bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bugs #crash #= #medium #importance #wtfSep 07 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bugs : “brasero” package : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 71.75 KBSep 07 00:51
cubevectormostly I just keep old boxes runningSep 07 00:51
FurnaceBoycubevector: i try to avoid buying stuff, because i have to work to pay for itSep 07 00:51
cubevector;-)Sep 07 00:51
FurnaceBoycubevector: same here. not planning any computer upgradesSep 07 00:52
FurnaceBoycubevector: i haven't needed a faster computer for half a decadeSep 07 00:52
FurnaceBoyor moreSep 07 00:52
cubevectorwhat are you running for your main system?Sep 07 00:52
FurnaceBoy2004 pc, G5, and G4 laptopSep 07 00:52
cubevectorwhoa, new :)Sep 07 00:52
Chips_B_Malroy"<cubevector> lately there's been very little I want to buy"  How about Zunepass?  lol  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/7985041/Microsoft-Zune-Pass-details-leaked.htmlSep 07 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Zune Pass details leaked? - Telegraph .::. Size~: 49.37 KBSep 07 00:53
FurnaceBoynone of them will be upgraded.Sep 07 00:53
FurnaceBoythey might get replaced with something used if they failSep 07 00:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: LOLSep 07 00:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: I think you caught him outSep 07 00:53
FurnaceBoycubevector: the G5 is much more than I need. it would still be a dual G4 tower, but my boss used to insist on buying the latest, and i got his hand-me-downSep 07 00:54
FurnaceBoyex-boss*Sep 07 00:54
cubevectorzune must have been a real turd, I never see it anywhereSep 07 00:54
Chips_B_Malroyisn't Zunepass, or Zunekin, whatever they call it this week, the same thing as their failed former music service that used played for sure and shut down its servers leaving folks with nothing and no way to play those DRM music files they bought?Sep 07 00:54
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cubevectorI used to program on 512K machines, before that on 64K machinesSep 07 00:55
FurnaceBoysame here.Sep 07 00:55
FurnaceBoythough the first computer I bought myself was 1MBSep 07 00:55
Chips_B_Malroyis ZunePass just another MSN Music or whatever it used to be called scam revisited by Microsoft?Sep 07 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Sony Has Lost the PS3 Hacking War http://ur1.ca/1ivit (via @slashdot)Sep 07 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] ♺ @seeds: "WeTab is based on MeeGo - The H Open Source: News and Features" from http://ur1.ca/1ivbtSep 07 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Why I do use Xfburn, 1 open bug; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfburn #better #than #braseroSep 07 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just realised there is an !identica client called "spaz" Lol! http://getspaz.com/Sep 07 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] 5 days? :)Sep 07 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | Sony Has Lost the PS3 Hacking War .::. Size~: 141.06 KBSep 07 00:56
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spaz: A Twitter, Identi.ca and StatusNet client for Palm® Pre™, Windows, Mac OS X and Linux .::. Size~: 22.48 KBSep 07 00:56
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.marketintelligencecenter.com/analyfav/1181384Sep 07 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft (MSFT) 9/7/10 PriceWatch Alert Targets 7.20% Downside Protection .::. Size~: 23.83 KBSep 07 00:56
Chips_B_Malroy"For a hedged play on this stock, look at a Jan '11 24 covered call for a net debit in the $22.54 area. That is also the break even stock price for this trade"Sep 07 00:57
cubevectorwhen EGA came out I was happy with all the colours :)Sep 07 00:57
Chips_B_Malroyok, thats all I got todaySep 07 00:58
Chips_B_Malroy16 colorsSep 07 00:58
Chips_B_MalroyI rememberSep 07 00:58
cubevectoryeah then I could actually make a decent rubik's cube programSep 07 00:58
cubevectorthe ol' vic-20 can't do orange :)Sep 07 00:59
cubevectorthen the Amiga 500 had workbench in 320x200Sep 07 01:00
cubevectorseems pretty primitive nowSep 07 01:00
cubevectorbut it was a big deal back in 1987Sep 07 01:00
FurnaceBoyBBC Micro had that sort of capability but a few years earlier.Sep 07 01:01
FurnaceBoyI used that a lot, in BBC BASIC and 6502 asmSep 07 01:01
cubevectorthere doesn't seem to be a modern 6502 equivalentSep 07 01:03
cubevectorlike the x86 hasSep 07 01:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/chrome-augusts-big-winner-as-internet-explorer-resumes-slide.arsSep 07 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome August's big winner as Internet Explorer resumes slide .::. Size~: 28.36 KBSep 07 01:03
sebsebseb_Goblin: ^Sep 07 01:04
cubevectorAcorn is defunct now I guess?Sep 07 01:05
Chips_B_Malroymost of the Acorn's were sold in Britian, I believeSep 07 01:07
cubevectornow we are kind of stuck in Intel-landSep 07 01:09
Chips_B_MalroyI seen a Sun Ray on EbaySep 07 01:10
Chips_B_Malroynice machineSep 07 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid http://questioncopyright.org/node/404 < Totally. Right. On. From @ninapaley #freeculture #freemeansfreedomSep 07 01:11
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cubevectoryou can get Sun Fire's for $99Sep 07 01:13
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Chips_B_MalroyRoy> your posts about MS going after Google in the courts using its shell or shill companies, is a lot like what MS has done to IBM in Europe.Sep 07 01:14
Chips_B_MalroyMS seems to have only one playbookSep 07 01:15
Chips_B_Malroyinvented by B. GatesSep 07 01:15
_Goblinsorry so late to the convo....wasn't the Acorn Arch 68020?Sep 07 01:16
Chips_B_MalroyI doubt we see Google try to sue MS for thisSep 07 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @richslxh I use #Spaz on my #PalmPre. Great product. The desktop version used to use Adobe AIR, which can be a resource hog. !identicaSep 07 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EU Court of Justice Advocates General Says Pan-EU Patent Court Would Violate the Principles of EU Founding Treaties http://ur1.ca/1iwa0Sep 07 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Court of Justice Advocates General Says Pan-EU Patent Court Would Violate the Principles of EU Founding Treaties | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.07 KBSep 07 01:16
cubevectorGates is a goof, he talks about education but never mentions wikipediaSep 07 01:17
cubevector_Goblin, this is significant I think:Sep 07 01:20
cubevectorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_ArchimedesSep 07 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acorn Archimedes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 57.47 KBSep 07 01:20
cubevectorbut... this happend:Sep 07 01:21
Chips_B_MalroyI believe that what we are seeing with the tactics against both IBM and Google by MS, that its not going to stop.  Its gone on for a long long time, back to the days of the split between IBM and MS, think OS/2.  SCO funding of by baystar (MS) was the low point in MS morality.Sep 07 01:21
cubevectorBy the early 1990s, the UK educational market began to turn away from the Archimedes. Apple Macintosh computers or IBM compatible PCs eclipsed the Archimedes in their multimedia capabilities, which led to an erosion of the Archimedes marketSep 07 01:21
Chips_B_MalroyThe only way to stop these attacks by MS, on Google oand IBM is to use fire against fire.  They need to be sued agressively.Sep 07 01:21
_Goblincubevector: my mistake...for some reason I had it in my head it ran a different processor....Sep 07 01:25
Chips_B_Malroybut I doubt that is going to happen by Google, or IbmSep 07 01:25
_Goblincubevector: the arch failed because it was more expensive than the A500 and its software catalogue was far smaller....and....the Amiga had "warez"....instant hit with the home.Sep 07 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Canada cowtows to US "Secure Flight" regulations http://ur1.ca/1iwnhSep 07 01:26
_Goblinno school I knew ran arch'sSep 07 01:27
cubevectorit's Kowtow not Cowtow :)Sep 07 01:27
cubevector"The prostration made by mandarins and others to theirSep 07 01:29
cubevector   superiors, either as homage or worship, by knocking the forehead on the ground"Sep 07 01:29
FurnaceBoykow-towSep 07 01:29
cubevectorI'm using the Collaborative International Dictionary of EnglishSep 07 01:30
cubevectormaybe other dictionaries are differentSep 07 01:30
cubevectoranyways, no one should kow-tow to M$Sep 07 01:30
cubevectorbad bad BADSep 07 01:31
cubevectoryeah I never saw any Acorns in North AmericaSep 07 01:32
cubevectorit looked like a nice machine, just too expensive I guessSep 07 01:32
_Goblinwhat is a kow-tow anyway?Sep 07 01:33
cubevectorI just posted it :)Sep 07 01:34
_Goblinah...yes...Sep 07 01:34
_GoblinKowtow is the act of deep respect shown by kneeling and bowing so low as to have one's head touching the ground. An alternative Chinese term is ketou however, the meaning is somewhat altered: kòu originally meant "knock with reverence",[citation needed] whereas kē has the general meaning of "touch upon (a surface)".[citation needed]Sep 07 01:34
cubevectorknocking your head on the ground to da bossSep 07 01:34
_GoblinIve learnt something tonight....Sep 07 01:34
cubevectorthe only thing I'm giving Microsoft is the boot, or the fingerSep 07 01:35
FurnaceBoywe can kow-tow to them sarcastically.Sep 07 01:35
FurnaceBoycivilisation owes them nothing except the fingerSep 07 01:36
cubevectorwe just have very wimpy OEMsSep 07 01:37
FurnaceBoycubevector: remember they are frequently threatened.Sep 07 01:37
FurnaceBoycubevector: that's how it worksSep 07 01:37
FurnaceBoycubevector: we have to wait for the threats to lose teethSep 07 01:37
FurnaceBoycubevector: see also, Intel's behaviourSep 07 01:38
cubevectoryeahSep 07 01:38
FurnaceBoycubevector: "Stop shipping AMD or we won't discount you."Sep 07 01:38
FurnaceBoyetc, etc, etc, ad infinitumSep 07 01:38
cubevectorsurely that is illegal?Sep 07 01:38
FurnaceBoyLOL!!!Sep 07 01:38
cubevectoroh wellSep 07 01:38
FurnaceBoycubevector: yes, it's supposed to be, But if you're Gates you get a free pass.Sep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoycubevector: DoJ went after them. EU went after them. nothing changed.Sep 07 01:39
Chips_B_Malroya wise man once told me:  "nothing is illegal, unless you get caught."  Words which I am sure that Willy G. reveres.Sep 07 01:39
cubevectorwimpy DoJ, semi-wimpy EUSep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: exactly.Sep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: sums up his entire approachSep 07 01:39
cubevectorWilly G coyote :)Sep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: but he took it furtherSep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: he got caughtSep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: and let offSep 07 01:39
cubevectorWiley G coyoteSep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyhe beat the whole system.Sep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyend runSep 07 01:39
FurnaceBoyhacked the lawSep 07 01:40
cubevectorthe game's not overSep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoyjust like Bush /Cheney did.Sep 07 01:40
Chips_B_Malroyand his Daddy is a lawyer, so he can probably beat the rap.Sep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: it is for him.Sep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: he got the high score, took his cash, and left the building.Sep 07 01:40
cubevectorGates hasn't written one line of code since 1983 anywaysSep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: he's now busy whitewashing himself so that he's invulnerabl to attackSep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: schestowitz is right to keep watching gatesSep 07 01:40
cubevectoroh sure, watch himSep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: he was never much of a coder.Sep 07 01:40
FurnaceBoycubevector: nor was Al Capone.Sep 07 01:41
Chips_B_MalroyGates is a con artist and a control freak, what do you expect of him?Sep 07 01:41
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: sociopathSep 07 01:41
Chips_B_Malroymore of a minor crimal than made very good for himselfSep 07 01:41
cubevectorpeople are fighting Microsoft more now thoughSep 07 01:42
Chips_B_Malroyhe is above the law now.  very little he could do and go to jail for.Sep 07 01:42
cubevectorthat's depressingSep 07 01:42
Chips_B_Malroyand trueSep 07 01:42
cubevectorif he gets subpoenaed he still has to show upSep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoyhe won't be.Sep 07 01:44
Chips_B_MalroyMS will fade away slowly, but the money that Gates, Ballmer, and Allen made, will not.  Well, maybe Allen's willSep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoyGates Foundation is his force fieldSep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoyyou'd have to hate starving africans to contemplate a case against himSep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoysighSep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoypretty much only karma will deal with him and Kissinger now.Sep 07 01:44
FurnaceBoybut, karma is enough :DSep 07 01:45
Chips_B_MalroyGates would litterly have to murder someone in an open and tight case to go to jailSep 07 01:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: rightSep 07 01:45
Chips_B_Malroyand that is not going to happenSep 07 01:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: yet he's more socially destructive than any 1,000 murderers combinedSep 07 01:45
FurnaceBoyhe's already killed thousands by proxySep 07 01:45
FurnaceBoyruined the lives of millionsSep 07 01:45
FurnaceBoydestroyed the software industries and prospects of dozens of nationsSep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoyexplicitlySep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoywrecked education systems worldwideSep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoyit's not even a secret agenda... we heard all about it from primary sourcesSep 07 01:46
cubevectorKildall became an alcoholicSep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoycorrupted international standardsSep 07 01:46
cubevectorthen managed to kill himselfSep 07 01:46
Chips_B_Malroyyou say you need a new pacemaker?  how about we sell you this new model with windows installed on it?  Or how about a Ford car with windows?Sep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoyturned software into a jokeSep 07 01:46
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: see Risks DigestSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: Windows kills people every daySep 07 01:47
cubevectoryeah Gates idolized FordSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: it's all though critical infrastructureSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoycubevector: Ford is like the Ayn Rand of industrySep 07 01:47
Chips_B_Malroyin medical equipmentSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: yesSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: hospitalsSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: transitSep 07 01:47
Chips_B_MalroyscarySep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: now warshipsSep 07 01:47
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: energySep 07 01:48
Chips_B_Malroyhow about nuke plants?Sep 07 01:48
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: RISKS Digest catalogues many failures in critical sectorsSep 07 01:48
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: those too.Sep 07 01:48
cubevectorthe army uses Red Hat tooSep 07 01:48
cubevectorit's not all MicrosoftSep 07 01:48
FurnaceBoycubevector: right, that's a separate issue.Sep 07 01:48
Chips_B_Malroyif Gates gets into nuke plants, you can bet they will be running windowsSep 07 01:48
FurnaceBoycubevector: we're not complaining about market share here but safetySep 07 01:48
cubevectorrightSep 07 01:48
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: they already do.Sep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: there have already been problemsSep 07 01:49
Chips_B_Malroywould you feel safe next door to nuke plant running windowsSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: ditto when NT was installed on US and UK warships and submarineSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoysSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: nuclear armed vesselsSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: immediate problemsSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: but nobody reversed the decisionSep 07 01:49
Chips_B_Malroycrt alt delSep 07 01:49
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: engineers revolted, resigned over itSep 07 01:50
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: because it was so self evidently stupidSep 07 01:50
Chips_B_Malroymoney changing hands    kickbacksSep 07 01:50
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: preciselySep 07 01:50
Chips_B_Malroybuy windowsSep 07 01:50
Chips_B_Malroyno cracks in the dams allowed pleaseSep 07 01:50
Chips_B_Malroyyou must buy windowsSep 07 01:50
cubevectorwhat about the nukes? I sure hope doze doesn't control those!Sep 07 01:51
Chips_B_Malroyplug up that hole in the militarySep 07 01:51
cubevectorBSOD takes on a new meaningSep 07 01:51
Chips_B_Malroyplug up that hole in netbooks with XP and get linux off themSep 07 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @lnxwalt140 I am sure it's a cool app. Unfortunate name though, if you grew up in England in the 80's/90's. Spaz was a childish insultSep 07 01:51
Chips_B_Malroylets hope the BSOD never becomes the NSODSep 07 01:52
Chips_B_MalroyNuke Screen of DeathSep 07 01:52
FurnaceBoyi am not sure why we are left, in 2010,relying on 'hope' for that.Sep 07 01:52
FurnaceBoyhonestly, when do people say enough is Enough.Sep 07 01:52
Chips_B_Malroyrunning if they were running windows in Cerenoble?Sep 07 01:52
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: probably not, given the year it happened.Sep 07 01:52
Chips_B_Malroyms dos?Sep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: but Russia is absolutely infested with Windows now.Sep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: nah, more likely homegrown systemsSep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: I can probably find out...Sep 07 01:53
Chips_B_Malroyptsdos?Sep 07 01:53
Chips_B_Malroy3 mile island?  windows?Sep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoytoo early :)Sep 07 01:53
Chips_B_Malroyor ms dosSep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoybesides, software wasn't root causeSep 07 01:53
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: no, when that happened, PCs weren't running this stuff.Sep 07 01:54
Chips_B_MalroyokSep 07 01:54
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: most of the rot has been in the 90s and laterSep 07 01:54
Chips_B_Malroybut they had ways to monitor stuffSep 07 01:54
FurnaceBoyyes, there were many computers suitableSep 07 01:54
FurnaceBoyDEC, for exampleSep 07 01:54
FurnaceBoyPDP-11 is still used in critical applicationsSep 07 01:55
FurnaceBoyone famous example, traffic lightsSep 07 01:55
Chips_B_Malroydos was not as bad as windows in many ways,  window is somehow even more buggySep 07 01:55
FurnaceBoyit's more complex.Sep 07 01:55
Chips_B_Malroyyes, exactlySep 07 01:55
FurnaceBoybut the 'economics' of PC hardware are relatively recent.Sep 07 01:55
FurnaceBoyuntil economy of scale made it cheaper to replace dedicated systems with commodity systems, this wasn't an issue.Sep 07 01:55
FurnaceBoyyou could say, everything 's been crap ever since.Sep 07 01:55
Chips_B_Malroyhardware has gotten better and cheaper, where as MS software has become more problematic and expensive.Sep 07 01:56
FurnaceBoychernobyl was 1986.Sep 07 01:56
Chips_B_Malroyhow about the russian nuke sub that sank?Sep 07 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Huntsville Rapist Bed Intruder Song: This has to be staged, I mean, come on! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrWu13Uh2YwSep 07 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ZDNet's 'Open Source and Linux' Blog Consults With Pro-Microsoft Campaigner http://ur1.ca/1ixmg #fauxpatents #swpatsSep 07 01:56
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FurnaceBoyyeah but it's not necessarily appropriate to throw consumer hardwre into mission critical applications.Sep 07 01:56
*_Goblin has quit (Quit: Lost terminal)Sep 07 01:56
FurnaceBoythat's what the Royal Navy engineers freaked out about.Sep 07 01:56
FurnaceBoywell, it may not have been consumer hw in that case.Sep 07 01:57
FurnaceBoybut it could have been Dell, which is about the same crapSep 07 01:57
FurnaceBoyfamously flakySep 07 01:57
FurnaceBoyThree Mile Island was 1979Sep 07 01:57
FurnaceBoycomputers on site were likely minicomputers , quite probably DECSep 07 01:58
FurnaceBoybut the causes there were mechanicalSep 07 01:58
FurnaceBoywe're MUCH more reliant on digital control now. practically 100%Sep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoythe use of PCs in energy switching is interesting.Sep 07 01:59
Chips_B_Malroy1983 and 1979, seems like yesterday.  But the halflife of radiactively lives on for a couple of hundred thousands years.Sep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoyroutinely affected by viruses and wormsSep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoyyes.Sep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoywe're going to pay for Gates for a long, long time.Sep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoyhe makes Madoff look like an amateur.Sep 07 01:59
FurnaceBoy"LOL! I stole $60 billion AND I destroyed infrastructure and industries globally!"Sep 07 02:00
FurnaceBoyexcept he must have stolen much more than thatSep 07 02:00
FurnaceBoyit's only what we're toldSep 07 02:00
Chips_B_Malroyat one point he was worth 105 billion, until MS stock bit the flatlineSep 07 02:00
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: Kursk sinking was 2000. cause of that was an explosion in torpedo baySep 07 02:01
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: he still has his rivers of goldSep 07 02:01
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: we just won't hear about itSep 07 02:01
Chips_B_Malroynice title for an article, "Microsoft Stock Flatlines for last Ten Years under the Ballmer Leadship."Sep 07 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz ZDNet's 'Open Source and Linux' Blog Consults With Pro-Microsoft Campaigner http://ur1.ca/1ixmg #fauxpatents #swpatsSep 07 02:01
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Chips_B_Malroywell, the Kursk, was probably a manuelly controlled torpedo control system.Sep 07 02:05
FurnaceBoyI was right. DEC minicomputers controlled Three Mile Island reactorSep 07 02:05
FurnaceBoyPDPSep 07 02:05
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: the explosion was most likely during handling/loadingSep 07 02:06
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: not related to control systemsSep 07 02:06
Chips_B_MalroyyesSep 07 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The Nokia N8, looks pretty cool!Sep 07 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @richslxh Yeah. In the U.S., it was an insulting term for someone with certain medical conditions. I too wish the name would change.Sep 07 02:06
FurnaceBoyhm, no i'm wrong. the DEC system wasn't controlling the reactor. it was used for post-mortem sonar of TMISep 07 02:07
FurnaceBoycurrent systems seem to run VAXSep 07 02:10
FurnaceBoy(American nuclear reactors)Sep 07 02:10
FurnaceBoyan application called R*TIMESep 07 02:10
Chips_B_Malroydon't worry, Bill will fix that.Sep 07 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The pot calling the kettle black, eh M$? http://ur1.ca/1iy0z #fbSep 07 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Google Says Microsoft Is Driving Antitrust Review .::. Size~: 108.73 KBSep 07 02:11
FurnaceBoyalso, HPUXSep 07 02:11
FurnaceBoyyes: after 2000, Windows and .NET start to be seen in nuclear controlSep 07 02:12
FurnaceBoyor at least monitoringSep 07 02:12
Chips_B_Malroylike windows monitored on the oil platform for BP?Sep 07 02:13
FurnaceBoyyeahSep 07 02:13
Chips_B_Malroywe know how that turned outSep 07 02:13
Chips_B_Malroyyou  see why I don't want Gates in nukesSep 07 02:14
FurnaceBoytoo lateSep 07 02:14
Chips_B_MalroyyesSep 07 02:14
FurnaceBoyhe's in the space programme tooSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyISS, ShuttleSep 07 02:15
Chips_B_Malroywhich is where he should be, in spaceSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoybrilliant moveSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: indeedSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: just like the AlienSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: ejectedSep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: we should tell him he can be the first on a habitable planet. "Just climb in here, Mr Gates."Sep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoySLAM!Sep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyLAUNCH ! LAUNCH!Sep 07 02:15
FurnaceBoyThe End.Sep 07 02:16
Chips_B_Malroyfirst man to marsSep 07 02:16
FurnaceBoyplease.Sep 07 02:16
FurnaceBoyPLEASE.Sep 07 02:16
FurnaceBoyfirst and last.Sep 07 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Great link: Free culture needs the four freedoms. http://questioncopyright.org/node/404Sep 07 02:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Four Freedoms of Free Culture | QuestionCopyright.org .::. Size~: 39.34 KBSep 07 02:16
Chips_B_Malroyanyone think its odd that Microsoft has not renamed the failure that is Zune?Sep 07 02:26
FurnaceBoythey don't move fast.Sep 07 02:28
FurnaceBoyVista stank out the room for a long time before they hit upon a name without bad connotationsSep 07 02:28
FurnaceBoyeven though it's just Vista in new wrapperSep 07 02:28
FurnaceBoyeven the brand 'Windows' hasn't had enough shit stick to itSep 07 02:29
FurnaceBoytyranny oflow expectationsSep 07 02:29
FurnaceBoyno matter how incompetently executed it is, most people suck it up, they;ve successfully hidden the alternativesSep 07 02:29
Chips_B_Malroy" <FurnaceBoy> even the brand 'Windows' hasn't had enough shit stick to it"  Malware sticks to itSep 07 02:29
FurnaceBoy"That's just how computers are -- slow, unreliable,..."Sep 07 02:29
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: yes but people think malware is normalSep 07 02:30
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: they think reinstalls , reboots , are normalSep 07 02:30
Chips_B_Malroythey are learningSep 07 02:30
FurnaceBoyThat's the great trick of Microsoft...Sep 07 02:30
FurnaceBoyto define normalSep 07 02:30
FurnaceBoysure, slowly...Sep 07 02:30
Chips_B_Malroyeven those without real computer experienceSep 07 02:30
Chips_B_MalroyI know a gal that bought an IpadSep 07 02:30
schestowitzWhat happned to *her*?Sep 07 02:31
Chips_B_Malroyshe has both an XP and Vista laptop, the XP one is in her closet invested with malware.Sep 07 02:31
FurnaceBoyickSep 07 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] West Antarctic ice sheet analysis http://ur1.ca/1iypfSep 07 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Spent nearly every waking hour the last 2 days working on !Conservancy stuff. Still not caught up & had !GPL enforcement to do that's undoneSep 07 02:31
FurnaceBoylinux would give it a new lifeSep 07 02:31
schestowitzinfected and infested... and investedSep 07 02:31
Chips_B_Malroyshe has no idea how to protect or clean the windowsSep 07 02:31
schestowitzShe need a course maybe :) "computer training"Sep 07 02:32
schestowitz*needsSep 07 02:32
Chips_B_MalroyWindows is like the glass plane (pain) in them, easy to break.Sep 07 02:32
Chips_B_Malroybut she know the Ipad doesn't seem to have the malware problems of windowsSep 07 02:33
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: there's no 'repair / clean' windowsSep 07 02:33
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: there is only 'not have windows'Sep 07 02:33
Chips_B_MalroyLinux would be a lot better for hereSep 07 02:34
Chips_B_Malroy*herSep 07 02:34
FurnaceBoyyes. like for most people.Sep 07 02:34
FurnaceBoyshe could do her online banking without being keyloggedSep 07 02:35
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrightsSep 07 02:35
Chips_B_MalroyThe point is, the malware problem just cost MS another custormerSep 07 02:35
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: account theft is RIFE in the monoculture.Sep 07 02:35
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: and people think it's NORMALSep 07 02:35
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: there are whole industries devoted to subverting windows systems for commercial or just personal vendetta purposes.Sep 07 02:36
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: not just in China, the famous example. But all through BRIC.Sep 07 02:36
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: I've worked with black hats in Brazil, for example.Sep 07 02:36
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: it's a thriving industry, enabled by WindowsSep 07 02:36
FurnaceBoy*ex-black hatsSep 07 02:36
schestowitzWindows creates jobs...Sep 07 02:36
Chips_B_MalroyI have cleaned up tons of windows systems in my time, not as many lately, I only work on friends systems nowSep 07 02:36
schestowitz...for bad peopleSep 07 02:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yes, it does.Sep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and nobody questions that this is 'just how it is'Sep 07 02:37
schestowitzInc. Microsoft staffSep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyhave a pc, expect problemsSep 07 02:37
Chips_B_Malroyit preys on peopleSep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyyes.Sep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyit's disgusting.Sep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyit's a constant drain ... low level crime and espionageSep 07 02:37
schestowitzMicrosoft teaches people how to use Windows using school teachersSep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoythere's no reason people and businesses should have to suffer thatSep 07 02:37
schestowitzAt parents' expenseSep 07 02:37
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: preciselySep 07 02:38
schestowitzAnd then they provide 'free' supportSep 07 02:38
schestowitzMaintainance at taxpayers' expenseSep 07 02:38
schestowitzBill and Steve just count the cashSep 07 02:38
schestowitzhigh margins, tooSep 07 02:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: most of their court settlements are just shrinkwrapSep 07 02:38
schestowitzBill wants to do it with seeds nowSep 07 02:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: 'please don't throw me in the briar patch, Mr Judge'Sep 07 02:38
Chips_B_Malroythe margins are going down nowSep 07 02:38
Chips_B_Malroyfor msSep 07 02:38
schestowitzEvery kid who eats something made of seed is cash for BIllGSep 07 02:38
FurnaceBoythis constant low level hacking that goes on in countries like Brazil puts thousands people in physical danger every day.Sep 07 02:39
FurnaceBoyit takes livesSep 07 02:39
Chips_B_MalroyBill G plays the shell game with his money, takes money out of MS puts into Foundation scam, and then invests in most profitable, or where he gains by controlling something.Sep 07 02:40
FurnaceBoypeople pay to hack other peopleSep 07 02:40
FurnaceBoyfor some kind of gainSep 07 02:40
FurnaceBoytheft, blackmail, mostlySep 07 02:40
FurnaceBoycustomer, meet supplier.Sep 07 02:40
FurnaceBoyall enabled by the simple incompetence of the great criminal enterprise, MSSep 07 02:41
FurnaceBoyfrom the ubercriminal, one hundred million little criminals are spawnedSep 07 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] OMG! I'm a skeptic, but this is an amazing UFO video, listen to the sound it makes: #ufo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BweMQcDu_Os&NR=1Sep 07 02:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- REAL UFO In The Sky Over Los Angeles .::. Size~: 104.77 KBSep 07 02:41
Chips_B_Malroyquestion, does anyone think that MS will have to do better on security in Windows 8?  Will they be forced to do at least a real limited user account by default?Sep 07 02:42
FurnaceBoythese ex-black hats are people just like you and me, who like technology, have a talent, and are spotted by pimp-typesSep 07 02:42
FurnaceBoypretty soon the pimp is blackmailing his staffSep 07 02:42
FurnaceBoyit's the same model as prostitutionSep 07 02:42
FurnaceBoyi've seen this firsthandSep 07 02:42
FurnaceBoyyuo don't want the staff going to any authoritySep 07 02:43
FurnaceBoyso you threaten themSep 07 02:43
FurnaceBoycompel them to do increasingly questionable thingsSep 07 02:43
FurnaceBoy...all of it based on windows exploitsSep 07 02:43
FurnaceBoythe pimps have a shtick, 'develop software', all harmless at firstSep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoy'come work for me'Sep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoythen they get some dirtSep 07 02:44
Chips_B_Malroyat some point I see Windows failing massively on internet security to be unusable at this rate.Sep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoythreaten familySep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoyof the kidsSep 07 02:44
Chips_B_Malroyat least for new usersSep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: not yetSep 07 02:44
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: people still don't know there's anything else, in these markets.Sep 07 02:44
Chips_B_Malroyactually it already is for new users like the gal I mentionedSep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: it's infuriating, so stupid, wasteful, dangerous, and unnecessarySep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: you can't buy Apple stuff in these markets.Sep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: tariffsSep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: but companies like Dell have bribed their way out of the tariffsSep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: so it furthers the pure monocultureSep 07 02:45
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: it's a catastropheSep 07 02:45
Chips_B_MalroyI knew people that had stopped using email because of windows infectionsSep 07 02:46
FurnaceBoyLOLSep 07 02:46
FurnaceBoyjust an incredible taxSep 07 02:46
Chips_B_Malroyits defectiveSep 07 02:46
Chips_B_Malroyby defaultSep 07 02:46
Chips_B_Malroyand even if you really know your stuff and work on it for a long time, you can really never trust itSep 07 02:47
Chips_B_MalroywindowsSep 07 02:47
FurnaceBoyright.Sep 07 02:47
Chips_B_Malroyit will never be as safe as GNU/LinuxSep 07 02:47
FurnaceBoyright.Sep 07 02:47
FurnaceBoymainly because Microsoft has no incentiveSep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoyor abilitySep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoyor interestSep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoyditto with standards complianceSep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoyno motive. standards only compromise their business model.Sep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoyso we'll never see a compliant microsoft product.Sep 07 02:48
FurnaceBoythey can't even comply with the Metric system ^^Sep 07 02:49
Chips_B_Malroywell, if you are a monopoly, that doesn't have to compete, because you have all the OEM's locked in, you become smug and don't fix things when they get bad.Sep 07 02:51
Chips_B_Malroythey only fix most of the showstopper bugsSep 07 02:51
Chips_B_Malroyother than that, a new version of windows, is just a coat of fresh paint and a few half baked appsSep 07 02:52
Chips_B_Malroylike flip4dSep 07 02:52
Chips_B_Malroy*flip3dSep 07 02:52
Chips_B_Malroywith a generous helping of DRM throw in for good measureSep 07 02:53
Chips_B_Malroyno MS Shill has ever been able to tell me where Vista is using so many of its resourced that XP did not.  I say its DRMSep 07 02:54
Chips_B_Malroyanother good reason to avoid MS WindowsSep 07 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. Need to think about this! http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3714/super-bug-vs-superbug #fbSep 07 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Yay, I finally got priority inbox in #GMail!Sep 07 03:06
Chips_B_Malroyso will MS sell 90K WP7 phones on the first day?  (employees--mandated)Sep 07 03:06
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: right. monopoly = disconnection from the market. affects pricing, too. -> AdobeSep 07 03:26
FurnaceBoyso there is no option but to smash monopolies. if the law won't do it, it'll have to happen bottom upSep 07 03:27
FurnaceBoybut it has to happen. it's inexorable. all empires crumbleSep 07 03:27
FurnaceBoymicrosoft is an insupportable burden on usSep 07 03:27
Chips_B_Malroydon't you think its already starting?Sep 07 03:27
Chips_B_MalroyGoogle might be the instrument of Linux to do itSep 07 03:28
FurnaceBoyi guess it started a while agoSep 07 03:28
FurnaceBoybut it's really slooooooooowSep 07 03:28
FurnaceBoyand the FUD machine is still pumping awaySep 07 03:28
Chips_B_Malroythe snowball will pick up speed on its route downhill for MSSep 07 03:28
FurnaceBoywe haven't seen the surface of the dirty tricks yetSep 07 03:29
Chips_B_MalroyFUD, is all they have nowSep 07 03:29
FurnaceBoythey're going to play very very dirty as it gets more and more tenuous for themSep 07 03:29
FurnaceBoywe know they're criminals who will do anything to stay on topSep 07 03:29
FurnaceBoythey break the law every minute of every daySep 07 03:29
Chips_B_Malroytheir (MS) wind (money) can be cut off tooSep 07 03:30
Chips_B_MalroyMS will be toothless without globs of moneySep 07 03:30
FurnaceBoythey'll have teeth for a whileSep 07 03:30
Chips_B_Malroythat will take timeSep 07 03:30
FurnaceBoyyesSep 07 03:30
Chips_B_MalroyyesSep 07 03:30
FurnaceBoy:)Sep 07 03:30
Chips_B_Malroybut it might just be fun to watch MS in its death throws.Sep 07 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Hi-tech ID cards easily scammed http://ur1.ca/1j0udSep 07 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am sure OSU alum Linus Pauling must be smiling ear to ear! Vitamin C ftw! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTi5ENbNQl8 #fbSep 07 03:31
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Chips_B_Malroyit will be like a snake that has been run over, striking out at everythingSep 07 03:32
FurnaceBoyit's not much fun to watch the AMerican empire in its death throes, and the two are intimately related, in tactics, depravity, ethicsSep 07 03:32
FurnaceBoyso, no, i don't think a dying microsoft will be fun. they're going to thrash around and do even more damageSep 07 03:32
Chips_B_Malroysadly yes, as an American, I agree with youSep 07 03:32
Chips_B_Malroyour corps have become mostly unethicalSep 07 03:32
FurnaceBoydifferent choices could have been madeSep 07 03:32
Chips_B_Malroymaybe in a parallel universe.  Money made the choices, at least those with itSep 07 03:33
FurnaceBoyat some point the system was just gutted and parasites took hold... and there 's not much more to steal , so we enter an ugly end gameSep 07 03:34
Chips_B_Malroythe rich gamed the systemSep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoyit wasn't built for sustainability, nor was Rome, nor was MicrosoftSep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoypretty much yes.Sep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoyand we're the cannon fodder, the raw material, the gristSep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoythe suckersSep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoyexpendableSep 07 03:34
Chips_B_Malroyjust like the rich and powerful gamed the Roman system, and most republicsSep 07 03:34
FurnaceBoyhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2009/04/13/chalmers-johnson/Sep 07 03:35
Chips_B_Malroythe massesSep 07 03:35
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FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: I remember hearing Maddy Prior (folk singer's) summary of the Arthurian years, when he cleaned up the mess that the sudden vacuum left byt eh Romans created, in BritainSep 07 03:35
Chips_B_Malroyrepresentative governments, based on the Roman System, are more easily corrupted, as few people need to be paid off.Sep 07 03:36
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: things are going to be pretty weird when the empire is goneSep 07 03:36
FurnaceBoysudden vacuum left by the Romans departing Britain*Sep 07 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] pondering going out to see "Machette"; no my kind of movie, but apparently it has KDE shots in it... hum...Sep 07 03:36
FurnaceBoywow, that's a fanboi...Sep 07 03:36
Chips_B_Malroysome interesting history there, post Roman BritianSep 07 03:36
FurnaceBoywill endure 2 hours of crap for 2 seconds of KDE.Sep 07 03:37
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: yeah!Sep 07 03:37
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: *real* nationbuildingSep 07 03:37
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: an actual uniterSep 07 03:37
Chips_B_Malroyangles, saxons, Britons, PictsSep 07 03:37
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: unless we're misled by historySep 07 03:37
FurnaceBoya lot of fiefdomsSep 07 03:38
Chips_B_Malroydid you know they actually asked Aetius to send legions there to help them?Sep 07 03:38
FurnaceBoynoSep 07 03:39
FurnaceBoywell, vaguelySep 07 03:39
FurnaceBoyoverstretched ehSep 07 03:39
Chips_B_Malroyof course he couldn't help themSep 07 03:40
Chips_B_Malroyso Cornwall and Wales lastly would be the last redoubt of the Britians and Celts?Sep 07 03:41
Chips_B_Malroymostly WalesSep 07 03:42
Chips_B_MalroyRome is a fascinating study, they had it all, and lost it all away slowly, just like MS is doing.Sep 07 03:46
Chips_B_MalroyMS is not the Roman Empire though, it not going take long.Sep 07 03:46
Chips_B_MalroyWP7 could be Microsoft's Adrianople (battle of 378) or its Waterloo if you prefer.Sep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoyi disagree that they 'had it all'.Sep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoythey just had the good fortune to ride the cash surf of the 1980s and 1990sSep 07 03:48
Chips_B_Malroywell, bor its time periodSep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoyit has served its purpose, which was to enrich Gates beyond dreams of avarice.Sep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoyit's a cast-off shell, it's doneSep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoyhe's left the buildingSep 07 03:48
FurnaceBoyit's just going to burn itself out like a spent rocket stageSep 07 03:49
FurnaceBoyin other words, SELL. ;-)Sep 07 03:49
Chips_B_Malroygates in many ways reminds me of CrassiusSep 07 03:49
Chips_B_MalroyCrassius Longus  (spelling?) was the richest man during his timeSep 07 03:50
Chips_B_Malroymade his money running the fire department in RomeSep 07 03:50
Chips_B_MalroycorruptlySep 07 03:50
Chips_B_MalroyGates is a little better than himSep 07 03:51
FurnaceBoyhubrisSep 07 03:51
Chips_B_MalroyCrassius was also instrumental (or at least his money was) in the downfall of the republicSep 07 03:51
Chips_B_Malroyhis support of CaesarSep 07 03:52
Chips_B_Malroythis is what too much money in the hands of one person or a small group of people can doSep 07 03:52
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Chips_B_MalroyI would say that Gates and Crassous had very similar personalities.  They both had to be in the center of attention.  Both had power ambitions.Sep 07 03:56
Chips_B_MalroyBoth were willing to push the bounds of the laws to make obseine amounts of moneySep 07 03:57
Chips_B_MalroyFurnaceBoy> where you live?Sep 07 03:59
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: CanadaSep 07 04:01
Chips_B_Malroyits cooler thereSep 07 04:01
FurnaceBoyso they say... :)Sep 07 04:01
Chips_B_Malroyhave not been there in many yearsSep 07 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] At the dine in Pizza Hut with the family!Sep 07 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Awesome, Pizza Hut has free Wifi!Sep 07 04:06
Chips_B_Malroywell, gn allSep 07 04:08
FurnaceBoy...Sep 07 04:08
FurnaceBoyChips_B_Malroy: niteSep 07 04:08
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FurnaceBoyhey, @mohanpram, eat real food insteadSep 07 04:08
cubevectorthe richest dude before Gates was Paul Getty I thinkSep 07 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Weird. #Opera "reload every" function shuts itself off after a while. #Firefox extension keeps working.Sep 07 04:11
cubevectorGetty OilSep 07 04:14
cubevectoraptly named :)Sep 07 04:14
cubevectorCrassus is supposed to be the wealthiest man in all of historySep 07 04:20
cubevectorMarcus Licinius Crassus, not sure if it's the same guySep 07 04:21
cubevectordifferent guy I thinkSep 07 04:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Radio Frequency ID tags used in preschool http://ur1.ca/1j2sdSep 07 04:31
FurnaceBoyrich men are boring subjextSep 07 04:32
FurnaceBoyct*Sep 07 04:32
FurnaceBoyplus, they're generally insaneSep 07 04:32
cubevectorI'm just looking at the history of Wal-mart and how all the Wal-marts in Canada used to be Woolco'sSep 07 04:33
cubevectorwell I think it's interesting to see how they got so richSep 07 04:33
FurnaceBoynot reallySep 07 04:34
FurnaceBoyit's just a history of thuggery and crimeSep 07 04:34
FurnaceBoyi don't find this aspect of human nature very edifyingSep 07 04:34
FurnaceBoybut ymmv i suppose :)Sep 07 04:34
FurnaceBoyit's just so tiresome dealing with the consequences of this crapSep 07 04:35
cubevectoryeah I hear youSep 07 04:35
FurnaceBoyenvironmentally, mentally, societally ...Sep 07 04:35
FurnaceBoywe all pay the goddamn microsoft tax everydaySep 07 04:35
FurnaceBoythrough diminished choicesSep 07 04:35
FurnaceBoywe pay the walmart tax tooSep 07 04:36
FurnaceBoyimporting everythign from china is a cataclysmic distortion, ask E.F> SchumacherSep 07 04:36
cubevectorI never buy anything at WalmartSep 07 04:36
FurnaceBoyi never enter itSep 07 04:36
FurnaceBoynor IKEASep 07 04:36
cubevectorimagine buying a windows computer at Walmart :)Sep 07 04:36
FurnaceBoycheap stuff is infinitely expensive when you add it upSep 07 04:37
FurnaceBoyas a soundbite: we can't afford cheap stuffSep 07 04:37
cubevectoryeah I buy used stuff a lotSep 07 04:37
FurnaceBoycubevector: like millions do...Sep 07 04:37
FurnaceBoyI pretty much try to buy used everything (except food lulz). Secondary markets ftw.Sep 07 04:37
cubevectorI have a garden :)Sep 07 04:37
FurnaceBoyyou're doing a bit better than me then :DSep 07 04:37
FurnaceBoycubevector++Sep 07 04:38
cubevectorI'm not into consumerismSep 07 04:38
FurnaceBoycubevector: right. material cultSep 07 04:39
cubevectorI haven't bought a new computer in agesSep 07 04:39
FurnaceBoycubevector: this religion places Gates as Pope.......Sep 07 04:39
cubevectoryeahSep 07 04:39
FurnaceBoycubevector: money is a truly terrible yardstickSep 07 04:39
cubevectorwell you could make your own shoes, clothes, food :)Sep 07 04:42
cubevectorit would be tough thoughSep 07 04:43
FurnaceBoycubevector: the Huff'n'Puff occasionally cites the dude who spent a year without moneySep 07 04:43
FurnaceBoycubevector: i didn't follow it upSep 07 04:43
cubevectorhmm?Sep 07 04:43
FurnaceBoycubevector: I have relatives who are mostly off gridSep 07 04:43
cubevectorwhat's that?Sep 07 04:43
FurnaceBoycubevector: http://huff.toSep 07 04:43
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cubevectoroh Huffington Post :)Sep 07 04:44
cubevectorwell, that's impressiveSep 07 04:44
FurnaceBoyyesSep 07 04:45
cubevectorI got my phone bill, internet bill, food bill, water bill, electric bill...Sep 07 04:45
FurnaceBoydamn hard workSep 07 04:45
cubevectorno money no toilet paper :)Sep 07 04:49
cubevectorjust thinking out loud here :)Sep 07 04:49
FurnaceBoyhehSep 07 04:49
FurnaceBoyno condoms, ehSep 07 04:50
FurnaceBoywow. no intermahnet!Sep 07 04:50
FurnaceBoyomgomgSep 07 04:50
FurnaceBoyno 4chanSep 07 04:50
*FurnaceBoy sobsSep 07 04:50
cubevectorsolar power with a laptop maybe?Sep 07 04:50
cubevectorand toronto freenetSep 07 04:50
cubevectornot impossibleSep 07 04:51
FurnaceBoyhmSep 07 04:51
cubevectorwouldn't be very convenient thoughSep 07 04:52
cubevectormaybe a library instead :)Sep 07 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz http://huff.to/9RLSfv Huffpost gives #war criminal Blair space 2 complain abt 'inconvenient' protesters, &video space 4 his POVSep 07 05:11
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FurnaceBoycubevector: i'm ashamed to admit i haven't set foot in a TO library in the six years i've lived here.Sep 07 05:22
FurnaceBoycubevector: there are a few within walking distanceSep 07 05:22
*FurnaceBoy has been too busy, i guessSep 07 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More fudging of Iraq WMD tales http://ur1.ca/1j4hgSep 07 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Use #kmail or #mailody? Can I have app add incoming addresses to address book? #lazywebSep 07 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i probably ask 2-3 questions per new (valid) bug report these days. the reporting is almost always ++vague. very annoying.Sep 07 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @crime_minister @piratepartyca Awesome copyright debate between @doctorow and @ninapaley: http://ur1.ca/1epnb !cc !copyright !lpSep 07 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part One http://bit.ly/cT67u4Sep 07 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Two http://bit.ly/dAM1DJSep 07 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] A decade with no income gains. http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/a-decade-with-no-income-gain/Sep 07 07:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Mind Cafe at funan centre looks like fun place - has boardgames etc. http://ur1.ca/1j873Sep 07 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Oh !Canada post: !ACTA keeps chugging along http://ur1.ca/1j8ko #OpenACTA #cdnpoli #mexpol #Moore #CalderonSep 07 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @larryrusswurm Heritage Minister of !Canada James Moore gets #Cartoond http://ur1.ca/1hs7r #cdnpoliSep 07 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Microsoft Still Loves Software Patents http://ur1.ca/1ja9m #swpats #microsoft #android !linuxSep 07 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatteron yes, it does do that. Use external editor.Sep 07 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Microsoft Still Loves Software Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.18 KBSep 07 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Steve Jobs' business secret http://is.gd/eYISK is pricing, not design http://is.gd/eYITT #appleSep 07 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Changy avatar time: http://stephencuyos.com/free-software-create-your-own-avatar-with-memaker/Sep 07 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SparkleShare Shaping Up to be Slick FOSS Alternative to Dropbox - http://bit.ly/bu14fx looks promising #opensourceSep 07 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] World’s Leading Medical Journal (The Lancet) Slams Bill Gates for Supporting #Tobacco Industry http://ur1.ca/1jbek #investment #slinSep 07 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Taking Openness to the Next Level - http://bit.ly/cNprlh opening up the standards-making process #openness #osdSep 07 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] OMG! I'm a skeptic, but this is an amazing UFO video, listen to the sound it makes: #ufo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BweMQcDu_Os&NR=1Sep 07 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @raymii: #Star #Trek #Voyager #Elite #Force runs fine under #wine :D Wonderfull game! !linux !loSep 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Taking Openness to the Next Level - http://bit.ly/cNprlh opening up the standards-making process #openness #osdSep 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @floeff: OpenOffice.org-Kongress Call for Papers bis 1.10. verlängert: http://www.oookwv.de/cfp !ooo #oookwvSep 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gijs: Floss in public administration. Very nice list! #FSFE http://ur1.ca/1j817Sep 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rms: Hi-tech ID cards easily scammed http://ur1.ca/1j0udSep 07 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #EU Court of Justice Advocates General Says Pan-EU Patent Court Would Violate the Principles of EU Founding Treaties http://ur1.ca/1iwa0Sep 07 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ZDNet's 'Open Source and Linux' Blog Consults With Pro-Microsoft Campaigner http://ur1.ca/1ixmg #fauxpatents #swpatsSep 07 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webmink Is Your MEP Aware Of ACTA? You can make a difference! Act today, tomorrow is literally too late http://bit.ly/aqHVhT please RDSep 07 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Android accounts for one-quarter of mobile web traffic, says Quantcast http://ur1.ca/1isdq #hypephone declining. #linuxSep 07 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh A quick Google shows that !gnome power manager and suspend is a bit buggy http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=455769Sep 07 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @bugabundo: there's a N900 running !android, just next to me :DSep 07 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Awesome death spiral of a bizarre star http://ur1.ca/1jcd0 !scienceSep 07 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Open Source: No one is working for free http://is.gd/eYMdR #freesoftware #gnu #linux #windows #microsoftSep 07 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @karsten: Have you seen the Euro 2012 Free Software qualifiers? Check out http://ur1.ca/1g0ba !fsfe 's Fellows rock!Sep 07 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] http://is.gd/eYMzaSep 07 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Official MeeGo UI screenshots released http://is.gd/eYMza #meego #linux #gnu #android #freesoftwareSep 07 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zuissi: Install Sun/Oracle Java JDK/JRE 7 (b108) on !Fedora 13 / !CentOS 5.5 / Red Hat !RHEL 5.5/6 - http://bit.ly/cyXYaYSep 07 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Software Liber în Administrația Publică http://is.gd/eYMW6 http://ur1.ca/1g0ba #romania #freesoftware #linux #gnu #windows #microsoftSep 07 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Has everyone seen the Google search page today? Very nice little Lawn Mower man type animation...Sep 07 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How the Gates Foundation is Sometimes Starving — Not Feeding — African People http://ur1.ca/1jd5s #africa #goldmansachsSep 07 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @royhugo: Steve Jobs' business secret http://is.gd/eYISK is pricing, not design http://is.gd/eYITT #apple <plays by the book #mustreadSep 07 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @gijs: Floss in public administration. Very nice list! #FSFE http://ur1.ca/1j817Sep 07 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A big shout out to Tom Smith! what a really nice chap (and a great musician) http://www.tomsmithonline.com/ !linux !foss !musicSep 07 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I'm probably going to write a short article on basic server security for people who have own server and basic php blogs/cms's 5 simple rulesSep 07 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISP Hits Back At U2 Manager’s Billion Dollar Piracy Bonanza Claims - http://bit.ly/cHm2yU debunking nonsense #piracy #ispsSep 07 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Neelie Kroes: "We must anchor the digital revolution in European values of freedom, openness and solidarity" - http://bit.ly/9o7IqX #euSep 07 10:31
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oiaohmhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/copyright-trolling-for-dollars/  seen the new troll game.Sep 07 10:36
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schestowitzHe did it again recentlySep 07 10:37
schestowitzhttp://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/royal-mail-launches-first-intelligent-stamps-9466Sep 07 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OpenBytes - The podcast coming very soon. Might be a bit of fun... !linux !foss !podcastSep 07 10:41
oiaohmRead deeper.  schestowitzSep 07 10:42
oiaohmThere is a known submerine patent on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_CodeSep 07 10:42
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oiaohmThe holder has not stated if or if not they will use it.Sep 07 10:42
schestowitzhttp://www.technologyreview.com/blog/post.aspx?bid=358&bpid=25691Sep 07 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Have We Reached The Software Patent Tipping Point? http://ur1.ca/1jf3o #swpats #monopoly #traulallenSep 07 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody Neelie Kroes: "We must anchor the digital revolution in European values of freedom, openness & solidarity" http://bit.ly/9o7IqXSep 07 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just trying new !xubuntu beta. The Alternate ISO uses the traditional Debian Installer. I didn't expect thatSep 07 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mandriva XFCE One edition http://ur1.ca/1jfdm Good distro, never tried this version of it though. !mandrivaSep 07 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Did you ever figure out an easier way to solve the !Gwibber accounts corruption problem? @popey?Sep 07 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Just called my UKIP MEP. They refuse to sign the anti-ACTA Declaration "as it would validate the EU". Call yours now... http://bit.ly/aqHVhTSep 07 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @cevdw reading "Facebook" where Mark Z. is pictured as a 'hacker', he uses perl to download pics from an open dir!Sep 07 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just updated to froyo, voice search is so cool. It recognises radio 5 live no problem. However Techrights takes me to Techcrunch :(Sep 07 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Called Sharon Bowles office (Liberal MEP) - much less negative than the UKIP people. http://bit.ly/aqHVhT Calling will help...Sep 07 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] cute Google doodle. if only it would stay still :)Sep 07 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ♻ @glynmoody Neelie Kroes: ‘We must anchor the digital revolution in European values of freedom, openness and solidarity’ bit.ly/9o7IqX #euSep 07 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @carlopiana @glynmoody Neelie Kroes: "We must anchor the digital revolution in European values of freedom, openness & solidarity"Sep 07 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Called Peter Skinner (Labour MEP) - he's going to go read (and hopefully sign) right now. http://bit.ly/aqHVhT Calling really will help...Sep 07 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blogs - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts  - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 47.68 KBSep 07 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @greve RT @glynmoody Neelie Kroes: "We must anchor the digital revolution in European values of freedom, openness and solidarity" - h ...Sep 07 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @azzorcist: I can feel many distros seem to migrate from being #ubuntu -based into #debian -based.Sep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Use Your Android Phone to “Jailbreak” Your PlayStation 3 (apparently since I dont own a PS3) http://ur1.ca/1jgec !loSep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So the versions of !choqok in the, !Lucid and !Meercat repos? Do they work with Twitter Oauth yet?Sep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - http://bit.ly/awAjtt just a few hours left to bring some accountability to #actaSep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @arjenlentz @cafuego: Netherlands still have no government 3 months after electionSep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @glynmoody: ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - http://bit.ly/awAjtt just a few hours left to bring some accountability to #actaSep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @silner This could be a temporary solution (says pino, choqok too) http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-get-pino-without-oauth-to-work.htmlSep 07 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Use Your Android Phone to Jailbreak Your PlayStation 3 | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 38.87 KBSep 07 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 47.78 KBSep 07 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 47.78 KBSep 07 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Get Pino Without OAuth To Work With Twitter Again ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 66.25 KBSep 07 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=381Sep 07 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink how ironic. UKIP will let Hollywood control Britain, as long as Hollywood is not "the EU". Hollywood=independence?Sep 07 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: Jabber (XMPP) client #Gajim 0.14 released – gets audio/video support, gelolocation & more http://goo.gl/pWYESep 07 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: serkokatsikian.net » RSA Animate  Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us .::. Size~: 30.92 KBSep 07 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jabber client Gajim 0.14 released  gets audio/video support, gelolocation & more .::. Size~: 26.48 KBSep 07 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Hollywood is a transnational republic, I guess ;-)Sep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Exclusive: Interview with !GNOME co-founder Federico Mena http://goo.gl/ybGdSep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @jwildeboer think you can take care of my transnational id card before FOSDEM 2011?Sep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @jwildeboer oh, and thanks for last evening! I enjoyed itSep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Temporary Twitter Oauth workaround, works with pino, choqok etc http://is.gd/eYTE4 << Thanks to @gotunandanSep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - http://bit.ly/awAjtt just a few hours left to bring some accountability to #actaSep 07 11:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Exclusive: Interview with GNOME co-founder Federico Mena .::. Size~: 50.19 KBSep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @silner hey does it really work ? Have you tried it with choqok ?Sep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan Now that's clever. I upgraded Choqok and Gwibber a while ago, but I was curious. Guess !ubuntu will wait for 10.10 now?Sep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] And the real reason for not approving a "foreign talent"'s PR application is? http://ur1.ca/1jgv0Sep 07 11:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Get Pino Without OAuth To Work With Twitter Again ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 66.25 KBSep 07 11:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA: Please Do What Simon Says... - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 47.78 KBSep 07 11:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former NTU Australian professor questioned Singapores immigration policy .::. Size~: 95.61 KBSep 07 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @sanjayankur Begun downloading the !fedora nightly compose to test #systemd : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day test day is ON!!Sep 07 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan I haven't but @webupd8 is usually pretty reliable. I follow him on Google Buzz.Sep 07 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan I assume it works much the same way as TweetIM sits between the Twitter API and your !xmpp client? So it makes sense.Sep 07 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @gotunandan I hear Qwitter always worked that way, but I haven't tried itSep 07 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QA/Test Days - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 15.21 KBSep 07 11:56
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JellyKernelhi guysSep 07 12:01
JellyKernelDo you know SparkleShare ?Sep 07 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !xubuntu seems to be fetching the updates as it installs. That seems like a good idea, as long as it copes when you're disconnected?Sep 07 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I can't believe it: my HTC Hero has finally been upgraded OTA to Android 2.1 #atlast #androidSep 07 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Not too bad a #waketime today: 06:11. Annoyed at paper checks at the moment: annoying that physical trip is best way to deposit. Takes time.Sep 07 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Giddy with delight, we'd like to announce the successful !lca2011 Miniconfs: http://is.gd/eYVz9Sep 07 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police in File-Sharing Raids Across Europe, WikiLeaks Host Targeted - http://bit.ly/c4s6hy because there's nothing more important to doSep 07 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AP Begins Crediting Bloggers as News Sources - http://bit.ly/db16xf what are we supposed to be, grateful? #blogging #apSep 07 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: lca2011 Announces Successful Miniconfs - linux.conf.au 2011 | 24 - 29 Jan | Follow the Flow .::. Size~: 16.94 KBSep 07 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Police in File-Sharing Raids Across Europe, WikiLeaks Host Targeted | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 44.39 KBSep 07 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AP Begins Crediting Bloggers as News Sources .::. Size~: 82.3 KBSep 07 12:21
MinceRso if a news search engine uses AP as a source, that's "stealing", but if AP uses a blogger as source, that's not?Sep 07 12:23
schestowitzNoSep 07 12:23
schestowitzBloggers are not corporationsSep 07 12:23
MinceRah, of courseSep 07 12:23
MinceRsilly me, i forgot that the only entities whose rights matter in the "civilized world" are the corporations :>Sep 07 12:24
schestowitzWe have to be sensitive about their feelingsSep 07 12:24
MinceRindeedSep 07 12:25
schestowitzThe hierarchy goes something like this. First the children, then religions, then corporations, then people, then "brown people" (the Carlin sense)Sep 07 12:25
MinceRnah, children are only used as an excuseSep 07 12:26
MinceRand religions don't matter at all, only "religious organizations"/"churches" (cults) matterSep 07 12:26
schestowitzNoSep 07 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, to work I go....Could have done with some more time off to prepare the Openbytes show! Planned ETA will be Fri 17th September! !linuxSep 07 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/9/2010: Backports and Debian, GDB 7.2 is Released http://techrights.org/2010/09/07/backports-debian/Sep 07 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 7/9/2010: Backports and Debian, GDB 7.2 is Released | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.86 KBSep 07 12:26
schestowitzChildren=Slim, Warren...Sep 07 12:26
schestowitzPlayboysSep 07 12:27
MinceRoh.Sep 07 12:27
MinceRwell, most humans are childrenSep 07 12:27
MinceRthey don't grow up and don't behave responsiblySep 07 12:27
schestowitzGross generalisationSep 07 12:28
schestowitzThere's some of eachSep 07 12:28
schestowitzThere's grown-up kids, smart people, and pretenders (those who are children trying to seem responsible0Sep 07 12:28
MinceRthe first two are very rareSep 07 12:29
schestowitzImposter who are infantile include those who spread children's fantasies like Santa Claus but actually do believe theseSep 07 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] WOW! There are now more !gentoo bugs for ignored #LDFLAGS than there has been for --as-needed support!Sep 07 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Police in File-Sharing Raids Across Europe, WikiLeaks Host Targeted - http://bit.ly/c4s6hy #wikileaksSep 07 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Police in File-Sharing Raids Across Europe, WikiLeaks Host Targeted | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 47.11 KBSep 07 12:36
schestowitzhttp://jamesthevicar.com/wordpress/2010/09/01/o-wont-you-please-authenticate-me/Sep 07 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   O, wont you please authenticate me | James Ogley .::. Size~: 317.33 KBSep 07 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Systemd Test Day happening today; you don't have to be running !Fedora to help test and contribute. http://2tu.us/2mvf !linuxSep 07 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AdamW on Linux and more  » Blog Archive   » Systemd Test Day on Tuesday 2010/09/07 .::. Size~: 25.35 KBSep 07 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, 14:00 Time to go home. @jargon back online later to see if you have sound.Sep 07 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-09-07: Fair, Reasonable And Non-Discriminatory…Ain't Good pointer here by Glyn to an action we can... http://bit.ly/bvzXFJSep 07 13:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2010-09-07 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 40.54 KBSep 07 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Congolese chimpanzees face new 'wave of killing' for bushmeat - http://bit.ly/cVyp9n what a depressing mess #drc #bushmeatSep 07 13:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Congolese chimpanzees face new 'wave of killing' for bushmeat | Environment | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 196.05 KBSep 07 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apache Asserts - http://bit.ly/bF4wLG bad me: I forgot to flag up and welcome this new open source blog on Computerworld UK. #apache #blogsSep 07 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache Asserts - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 37.5 KBSep 07 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What's the point of Select Committee hearings? They are nothing more that 'cover your own ass' sessions for those avoiding questionsSep 07 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Today will be challenging: wall-to-wall meetings all day, plus keeping track of our new dog to minimize "accidents."Sep 07 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are all boxers self delusional egotists? Self confidence is one thing but boxers seem incapable of it without HUGE exagerationSep 07 13:36
schestowitzhttp://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2010/09/07/kroes-europe-3-0/ 3.0??Sep 07 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kroes Europe 3.0 « Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 22.02 KBSep 07 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Does anyone know of an #android app that counts how often I use which app? #curious #lazywebSep 07 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I'm not feeling well today...Sep 07 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb it's probably necessary for them to succeedSep 07 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer Windows doesn't run on Android, does it? It can do all that and phone home.Sep 07 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1. Take Open Source project 2. Rename and package it 3. sell for $49 millions. Yep, it works. http://is.gd/eZ2FI #droolsSep 07 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Davis Guggenheim (Waiting for Superman, An Inconvenient Truth) on HuffPo on Great Teachers: http://huff.to/b7dQETSep 07 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Red Hat has appointed Mark Bohannon as VP. Corp. Affairs and Global Public Policy. http://bit.ly/9wuZbr < congrats, Mark :-)Sep 07 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Drools - Business Logic integration Platform: Progress Buy a Bridge in Brooklyn (Savvion BRMS) and make Del Boy Trotter Proud .::. Size~: 85.66 KBSep 07 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Davis Guggenheim: Repeat After Me: We Can't Have Great Schools Without Great Teachers .::. Size~: 189.07 KBSep 07 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Bohannon to Lead Red Hat Governmental Affairs and Public Policy | Business Wire .::. Size~: 65.75 KBSep 07 14:06
oiaohmhttp://www.devicemag.com/2010/09/07/ps3-update-3-42-available-for-download-no-more-jailbreaking-for-you/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+devicemag+%28DeviceMAG%29  Sony countered alreadySep 07 14:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   PS3 Update 3.42 Available for Download; No More Jailbreaking For You - DeviceMAG .::. Size~: 27.92 KBSep 07 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz I just want to find out which apps I never really use, so I can delete them ...Sep 07 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: ♺ @caostheory: Red Hat has appointed Mark Bohannon as VP. Corp. Affairs and Global Public Policy. http://bit.ly/9wuZbrSep 07 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] F%$&, if it weren't for the netbook & git, work would be interrupted by these power cutsSep 07 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer: I think it would be interesting usage data if only to know how to reallocate symlink screen spaceSep 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer ♺ @carlopiana sounds like big title for "lobbyist"Sep 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Cairo 1.10.0 available http://lwn.net/Articles/403797/rssSep 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz has more weight as my evangelist job title, I guess ;-)Sep 07 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Paypal changed its conditions. Is anyone going to make a blogpost that analyses what changes? Thanks ;-)Sep 07 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cairo 1.10.0 available [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6 KBSep 07 14:16
schestowitz"Sep 07 14:20
schestowitzI have no idea what is Novell trying to achieve with injecting Mono in Linux. I would have to agree with anti-Novell people hare. Novell is trying it give Microsoft a reason to sue corporations and businesses using Linux, and then split the winnings.Sep 07 14:20
schestowitzBut they will be wiped before that happens. They are no better than SCO.Sep 07 14:20
schestowitz"Sep 07 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer @shestowitz don't ask me ;-) All I know he's a good chap and he'll "lobby" for good.Sep 07 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM Code Unfetters Virtual Workloads (CIO) http://bit.ly/adKrzSSep 07 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Novell is trying it give Microsoft a reason to sue corporations and businesses using Linux, then split the winnings." http://ur1.ca/1jkurSep 07 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      IBM Code Unfetters Virtual Workloads                           -  CIO.com .::. Size~: 88.82 KBSep 07 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  As Novell’s Woes Continue, Red Hat Is the Beneficiary  .::. Size~: 47.19 KBSep 07 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This Week Is a Coming-Out Party for Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/1jkvb from last week; indeed it was all !linuxSep 07 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I guess I will show up at BRU #hackerspace this evening for Tech Tuesday - http://hackerspace.be/TechTue73Sep 07 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana @jwildeboer sometimes we say the same things about "defensive" #swpats - I think there's risk in hypocrisy. [ping @fontana ]Sep 07 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana last month when the SAP rumour floated I think you said you'd look at what happens to #RedHat #swpats in case of a takeoverSep 07 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This Week Is a Coming-Out Party for Android Tablets « .::. Size~: 67.9 KBSep 07 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechTue73 - Hackerspace Brussels .::. Size~: 13.42 KBSep 07 14:26
schestowitzMeh: "OXUploader works on Windows XP or newer or on Windows Server 2003 or newer, and requires Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0. Check the Open-Xchange wiki for complete system requirements and download OXUploader and its release notes here. "Sep 07 14:31
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/oxuploader-makes-quick-work-of-migrating-data-to-open-xchange-server?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29Sep 07 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  OXUploader Makes Quick Work of Migrating Data to Open-Xchange Server  .::. Size~: 38.59 KBSep 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz notMe ;-) "defensive" patenting is perverting the patent system IMHO. Patenting is about disclosure, not about revenue streams.Sep 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz not sure I understand. A/way calling one company's #swpats "defensive" is frequently an excuse to ammass, true.Sep 07 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Uhh. Yeah. Burning Qurans is like so freedom respecting and correct and stuff? Like totally Land of the free? http://is.gd/eZ4Iu #failSep 07 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer disclosure is what journals are for; USPTO is for monopolySep 07 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Coalition of the Willing: an animated short about open source culture and the role it could play against global warming http://bit.ly/9vMOZxSep 07 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pastor weighing plans to burn Qurans amid U.S. warnings - CNN.com .::. Size~: 46.7 KBSep 07 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How the open source culture could impact climate change | opensource.com .::. Size~: 48.66 KBSep 07 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana they sell the "defensive" portfolio to someone who has other ideas; see how Linus' former employer sold ammo to IVSep 07 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer Name one country whose armed groups are not for "defensive" purposes; even invasions are spun as proactively defensive/w pretextSep 07 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana re "All I know he's a good chap and he'll "lobby" for good." > Citi, Ratheon, BP, Microsoft, and Philip Morris say the sameSep 07 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz patents are monopolies. ACK. But you get them in *exchange* for full disclosure. And *that* part is failing esp for #swpatsSep 07 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer the burning is a form of freedom too and some people will rightly challenge them for provocation; frankly, burned paper=>carbonSep 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] cSep 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer for software, source code already documents the 'invention' (math); for physical, object/schematics exist alreadySep 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] We're entering the decade of the developer (TechRepublic) http://bit.ly/dtlp4zSep 07 14:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We're entering the decade of the developer | Tech Sanity Check | TechRepublic.com .::. Size~: 77.87 KBSep 07 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer the whole "file to document" is a lawyers' talking point, maybe correct historically, but now sharing is easy, w/o journalsSep 07 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Anyone from FFII or LQdN able to say what the count of signatories of the ACTA Declaration is now please?Sep 07 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz easy answer: *they* lie. ;-) Their selfish interest is evil. RH's selfish interest is (by now, I concede) pro-good.Sep 07 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google shows HTML5 love with bouncing balls (Techworld) http://bit.ly/c45PdhSep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Access Meets Open Archaeology - http://bit.ly/c65N6J OA meets OA thanks to OA #openaccess #archaelogySep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana Red Hat's developers maybe, not Red Hat, which is amoral (shareholders). Companies don't know "good" or "evil"; they aren't menSep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ PoliceStateUK #TalkTalk reprimanded by #ICO for not informing customers about URL-tracking tests http://bbc.in/aPS43B #Privacy >>tutSep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Version 2.0 of NoSQL database Redis released (H) http://bit.ly/a534QwSep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink thanks for phoning for many of usSep 07 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google shows HTML5 love with bouncing balls - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 105.65 KBSep 07 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Open Access Meets Open Archaeology .::. Size~: 66.07 KBSep 07 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - TalkTalk rapped for failing to talk about malware trial .::. Size~: 48.1 KBSep 07 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Version 2.0 of NoSQL database Redis released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.17 KBSep 07 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz yep. That's why I say that FOSS gives everything the patent system claims to give but without costs and monopolies ;-)Sep 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Does !Flattr publish any source code?Sep 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz ACK, corporations are soulless entities. That's why I count on selfish interest to predict their - temporary - behaviour.Sep 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @schestowitz ... and I also count on their track record, "corporate culture" and to some extent on personal acquaintance, as with MarkSep 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - http://bit.ly/c7U8rt trying to undo all its good work #cern #patentsSep 07 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - tech - 06 September 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 60.97 KBSep 07 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - http://bit.ly/c7U8rt trying to undo all its good work #cern #patentsSep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sudo vuln: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/93Sep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Mozilla Public License v2 alpha2 released http://ur1.ca/1jlbn - Discussion: http://ur1.ca/1jlboSep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Guardian gives outsiders the power to publish for the first time - http://bit.ly/ab99aM good background piece #blogging #newspapersSep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana yes, good defenceSep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - http://bit.ly/c7U8rt trying to undo all its good work #cern #patentsSep 07 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - tech - 06 September 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 60.97 KBSep 07 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Full Disclosure: [USN-983-1] Sudo vulnerability .::. Size~: 18.49 KBSep 07 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A completely new model for us: The Guardian gives outsiders the power to publish for the first time » Nieman Journalism Lab .::. Size~: 36.68 KBSep 07 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - tech - 06 September 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 60.97 KBSep 07 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Joint Open Letter to International Publishers from Chinese research libraries - http://bit.ly/bzArXs price-gouged, again #china #publishingSep 07 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Joint Open Letter to International Publishers from Chinese research libraries - http://bit.ly/bzArXs price-gouged, again # ...Sep 07 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Called Peter Skinner (Labour MEP) - he's going to go read (and hopefully sign) right now. bit.ly/aqHVhT Calling will help...Sep 07 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody does anybody feel that trying to fix a problem created by patents with more patents is madness? http://bit.ly/c7U8rtSep 07 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The New Bereavements - http://bit.ly/az2e3e "how do you react when your favourite service disappears?" we take things for granted...Sep 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @bignose: Nina Paley and Cory Doctorow disagree over !freeculture restrictions ur1.ca/1epnbSep 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Are you an educator in South Africa? Learn about copyright & open licensing @P2PU: http://p2pu.org/general/copyright-4-educators-za #OERSep 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana @glynmoody it's also wasteful. A lot of developer/examiner time not put to good use; economically unsoundSep 07 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SpeakerText Crowdsources Micro-Tasks To Automate Video Transcripts - http://tcrn.ch/aKHf6V interesting #crowdsourcing #transcriptsSep 07 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung Considering Android-Powered HDTVs To Compete With Sony And Apple - http://tcrn.ch/aJdqG1 it's coming #samsung #android #tvSep 07 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Samsung Considering Android-Powered HDTVs To Compete With Sony And Apple - http://tcrn.ch/aJdqG1 it's coming #samsung #and ...Sep 07 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody #android is the new embedded linux. MontaVista, WindRiver etc will not be happy, I guess.Sep 07 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, 'barcoding' URLs is bad practiceSep 07 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody just what we need: televisions with Microsoft taxSep 07 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @erikjfisher: Associated Press recognise bloggers as a news source ur1.ca/1jlkkSep 07 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer for GUI - yesSep 07 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @doctorow: Deciding to call bullshit the next time someone uses the phrase 'digital native'. I'm not a digital native, I'm an analog expatSep 07 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Keep It on 'Rants and Raves,' Dude http://gawker.com/5631510/Sep 07 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] In #pino I cannot favor my own post. Pity, since sometimes they ARE my favorites ;-) + I use my identi.ca faves 4 web mash-upsSep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rob_t_firefly: Unlogo is a web service that eliminates logos and other corporate signage from your personal media. http://t.co/Y85BT8jSep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The roots of Blair's hostility to Freedom of Information - http://bit.ly/9e1wzd great analysis #blair #foi #secrecySep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido new results for !euro4fs are online: http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2010/09/euro-2012-qualification-day-3/Sep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !StopUBB post: !ACTA Conspiracy Theory - the latest leak http://www.ur1.ca/1jlmf !copyright #netneutrality #democracySep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten ♻ @fsfe: EC survey on software and standards: Make your voice heard! http://ur1.ca/1jiln << your input on standardisation re ...Sep 07 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] artilce on #FRAND http://ur1.ca/1jfl0 !fsSep 07 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #ushahidi, watch out. Google is "inspired" by your work as it seems. Did they already sent an offer? ;-)Sep 07 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The Open High School of Utah Releases Open Educational Curriculum Under CC BY - http://goo.gl/7mo4 #oer #ocw #CCSep 07 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Contribute to Selectricity! Free software voting machinery for elections, big and small. http://ur1.ca/1jlq6Sep 07 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Hello, tweeps! Back from long weekend here in the U.S.Sep 07 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Looking Glass: James Gannon Lies By Omission Yet Again–Star Article Doesn’t Disclose His #CRIA Connections http://www.ur1.ca/1jlq9 !billc32Sep 07 16:06
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T 1283870520 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[carlopiana/@carlopiana] In #pino I cannot favor my own post. Pity, since sometimes they ARE my favorites ;-) + I use my identi.ca faves 4 web mash-ups
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rob_t_firefly: Unlogo is a web service that eliminates logos and other corporate signage from your personal media. http://t.co/Y85BT8j
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The roots of Blair's hostility to Freedom of Information - http://bit.ly/9e1wzd great analysis #blair #foi #secrecy
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido new results for !euro4fs are online: http://blogs.fsfe.org/guido/2010/09/euro-2012-qualification-day-3/
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !StopUBB post: !ACTA Conspiracy Theory - the latest leak http://www.ur1.ca/1jlmf !copyright #netneutrality #democracy
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten ♻ @fsfe: EC survey on software and standards: Make your voice heard! http://ur1.ca/1jiln << your input on standardisation re ...
T 1283870521 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[kirschner/@kirschner] artilce on #FRAND http://ur1.ca/1jfl0 !fs
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T 1283871120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #ushahidi, watch out. Google is "inspired" by your work as it seems. Did they already sent an offer? ;-)
T 1283871420 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The Open High School of Utah Releases Open Educational Curriculum Under CC BY - http://goo.gl/7mo4 #oer #ocw #CC
T 1283871420 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[mako/@mako] Contribute to Selectricity! Free software voting machinery for elections, big and small. http://ur1.ca/1jlq6
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T 1283871720 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Hello, tweeps! Back from long weekend here in the U.S.
T 1283871720 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Looking Glass: James Gannon Lies By Omission Yet Again–Star Article Doesn’t Disclose His #CRIA Connections http://www.ur1.ca/1jlq9 !billc32
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T 1283872020 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @creativecommons The Open High School of Utah Releases Open Educational Curriculum Under CC BY - http://goo.gl/7mo4 #oer #ocw #CC
T 1283872020 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @OpenRightsGroup short 6 MEP signatures for Written Declaration against !ACTA. Deadline Thursday. Email MEPs now. http://bit.ly/actauk
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T 1283872620 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @webmink IMHO UKIP doesn't make sense anyway ;-)
T 1283872919 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The google logo today is awesome! :D
T 1283873220 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Google Logo doen with HTML/JavaScript particle simulator! http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/07/google-logo/
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T 1283873821 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @skhaen RT @jerezim #WD12 on #ACTA adopted! Congratulations to all #EU citizens who participated!
T 1283873821 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Hmm disk with f-up partition table, how to find where the second NTFS partition began? :|
T 1283873821 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @BartHanssens some !koffice goodies like viewing !odf signatures on a mobile phone http://bit.ly/98geM6
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T 1283874120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @barthanssens some !koffice goodies like viewing !odf signatures on a mobile phone http://bit.ly/98geM6
T 1283874120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @OldScot Damage done! RT @CdnPress_Ott: Too late to save mandatory long-form questionnaire for 2011 #cdnpoli http://www.ur1.ca/1jmed
T 1283874120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[fontana/@fontana] @schestowitz I discussed that with @webmaven a few weeks ago, http://identi.ca/conversation/46946474#notice-47318745
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T 1283874420 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[fontana/@fontana] @jwildeboer That's the #Apache_License for you :-)
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T 1283875619 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Back from the OOoCON, on to the next one! http://ur1.ca/1jn5n
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T 1283875919 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fsfe: EC survey on software and standards: Make your voice heard! http://ur1.ca/1jiln
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T 1283876219 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[rms/@rms] Media supporting withdrawal fiction http://ur1.ca/1h2u6
T 1283876520 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: The roots of Blair's hostility to Freedom of Information - http://bit.ly/9e1wzd great analysis #blair #foi #secrecy
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T 1283876819 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - http://bit.ly/c7U8rt trying to undo all its good work #cern #patents
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T 1283877420 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[joabj/@joabj] New Open Source Semantic Engine (I Programmer) http://bit.ly/a3W7uQ
T 1283877720 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz From now on I will be using an external editor :) Lucky I didn't loose anything.
T 1283877720 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[lessig/@lessig] Great article by the great #heilemann: "Schools: The Disaster Movie" http://bit.ly/d2QG3w
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T 1283878319 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LC Brazil: Consumers, experts, or admins? http://lwn.net/Articles/403703/rss
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T 1283878401 #21##<#schestowitz#>###21cubevector: could you please do me a small favour a paste online the log of this channel for the past 3 hours? I was offline for a while without backup
T 1283878619 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[webmink/@webmink] I just heard that the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs and thus ratified! Many thanks to everyone who called their MEP!
T 1283878919 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay definitely looks like one of the three authors of #Fuzzing is a !Gentoo user ;)
T 1283879519 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Just heard the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs & thus ratified! Thanks to everyone who called their MEP!
T 1283879519 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Checked in at #hackerspace in Brussels.
T 1283879520 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 thanks for the thoughts, had to go for a while
T 1283879520 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today is #disturbingnews day. Don't ask for details. Will disclose as soon as I can.
T 1283879820 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1 Violate the rules. 2 Get $31 million severance 3 Call your buddy 4 get a new job. It #hurd s ;-)
T 1283879820 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink: Just heard the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs & thus ratified! Thanks to everyone who called their MEP!
T 1283879820 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, that's what we fought since 2006
T 1283880120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[rms/@rms] Canada kowtows to US "Secure Flight" regulations http://ur1.ca/1iwnh
T 1283880120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[joabj/@joabj] HTML5 May Help Web Pages Talk, Listen (CIO) http://bit.ly/bJLcf2
T 1283880120 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[w3c/@w3c] W3C Extends Speech Framework to Asian Languages http://ow.ly/18U3R9
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T 1283880720 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://lwn.net/Articles/403821/rss
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T 1283881020 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[mohanpram/@mohanpram] "When we were almost done with the development of Metroid, one of our staffers casually suggested,..." http://bit.ly/atbPou #digg #digguser
T 1283881020 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Video: Open High School of Utah--a custom education built on open educational resources http://bit.ly/9GZp9g
T 1283881022 #18#<#TechrightsBot-tr#>##Title: When we were almost done with the development of... - Tiny Cartridge - Nintendo DS, DSi, & 3DS News, Media, Videos, Imports, Homebrew, & Retro Junk .::. Size~: 11.85 KB
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T 1283881321 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/1jog1 (Dutch) - Cool. Now we're combating cultural innovators like marijuana. #aintGonnaWork !Belgium
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T 1283881370 #18#<#yano_t#>##Hi schestowitz :)
T 1283881621 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[webmink/@webmink] RT @tieguy Announced MPL Alpha 2- process participation welcome: http://mpl.mozilla.org/2010/09/07/mpl-alpha-2-released/
T 1283881621 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm about to try PCLinux 2010 KDE on the netbook
T 1283881621 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great post from Ross Pruden on Creative Commons and the future of film: http://bit.ly/aq6qQ9 #ccmovie
T 1283881621 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YES! WD12 http://is.gd/eZrKl has 369 signatories. Power to the Parliament! #ACTA #Transparency
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T 1283881921 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I install it next week
T 1283881921 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "WRITTEN DECLARATION ... Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and potentially objectionable content" http://is.gd/eZrKl #ACTA #crime
T 1283882554 #31#<#cubevector#>###30schestowitz, back to what time?
T 1283882644 #21##<#schestowitz#>###21cubevector: thanks!
T 1283882667 #18#<#schestowitz#>##Around 3PM GMT... 4 hours ago
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T 1283882819 #28-#29TRIdentica/#techrights#28-#[joabj/@joabj] Advertisers get hands stuck inside HTML5 database cookie jar (Ars) http://bit.ly/8WZ0Tn
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T 1283883004 #31#<#cubevector#>###30not sure about the times, but I'll post the whole thing
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Back from the OOoCON, on to the next one! http://ur1.ca/1jn5nSep 07 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fsfe: EC survey on software and standards: Make your voice heard! http://ur1.ca/1jilnSep 07 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Media supporting withdrawal fiction http://ur1.ca/1h2u6Sep 07 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: The roots of Blair's hostility to Freedom of Information - http://bit.ly/9e1wzd great analysis #blair #foi #secrecySep 07 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - http://bit.ly/c7U8rt trying to undo all its good work #cern #patentsSep 07 17:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Innovation: CERN collides with a patent reality - tech - 06 September 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 61.48 KBSep 07 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Open Source Semantic Engine (I Programmer) http://bit.ly/a3W7uQSep 07 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz From now on I will be using an external editor :) Lucky I didn't loose anything.Sep 07 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Great article by the great #heilemann: "Schools: The Disaster Movie" http://bit.ly/d2QG3wSep 07 17:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Davis Guggenheim's Documentary 'Waiting for “Superman”' Will Further Fuel the Education Debate -- New York Magazine .::. Size~: 59.66 KBSep 07 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LC Brazil: Consumers, experts, or admins? http://lwn.net/Articles/403703/rssSep 07 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 07 17:56
schestowitzcubevector: could you please do me a small favour a paste online the log of this channel for the past 3 hours? I was offline for a while without backupSep 07 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I just heard that the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs and thus ratified! Many thanks to everyone who called their MEP!Sep 07 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay definitely looks like one of the three authors of #Fuzzing is a !Gentoo user ;)Sep 07 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Just heard the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs & thus ratified! Thanks to everyone who called their MEP!Sep 07 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Checked in at #hackerspace in Brussels.Sep 07 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 thanks for the thoughts, had to go for a whileSep 07 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today is #disturbingnews day. Don't ask for details. Will disclose as soon as I can.Sep 07 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] 1 Violate the rules. 2 Get $31 million severance 3 Call your buddy 4 get a new job. It #hurd s ;-)Sep 07 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink: Just heard the ACTA Written Declaration has been signed my 369 MEPs & thus ratified! Thanks to everyone who called their MEP!Sep 07 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody yes, that's what we fought since 2006Sep 07 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Canada kowtows to US "Secure Flight" regulations http://ur1.ca/1iwnhSep 07 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HTML5 May Help Web Pages Talk, Listen (CIO) http://bit.ly/bJLcf2Sep 07 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Extends Speech Framework to Asian Languages http://ow.ly/18U3R9Sep 07 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      HTML5 May Help Web Pages Talk, Listen                           -  CIO.com .::. Size~: 87.23 KBSep 07 18:26
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schestowitzHi yano_tSep 07 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://lwn.net/Articles/403821/rssSep 07 18:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Tuesday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.2 KBSep 07 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] "When we were almost done with the development of Metroid, one of our staffers casually suggested,..." http://bit.ly/atbPou #digg #digguserSep 07 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Video: Open High School of Utah--a custom education built on open educational resources http://bit.ly/9GZp9gSep 07 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When we were almost done with the development of... - Tiny Cartridge - Nintendo DS, DSi, & 3DS News, Media, Videos, Imports, Homebrew, & Retro Junk .::. Size~: 11.85 KBSep 07 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/1jog1 (Dutch) - Cool. Now we're combating cultural innovators like marijuana. #aintGonnaWork !BelgiumSep 07 18:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: De Standaard Online - Grote anti-piraterijactie van Europol  .::. Size~: 116.94 KBSep 07 18:46
yano_tHi schestowitz :)Sep 07 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @tieguy Announced MPL Alpha 2- process participation welcome: http://mpl.mozilla.org/2010/09/07/mpl-alpha-2-released/Sep 07 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm about to try PCLinux 2010 KDE on the netbookSep 07 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great post from Ross Pruden on Creative Commons and the future of film: http://bit.ly/aq6qQ9 #ccmovieSep 07 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YES! WD12 http://is.gd/eZrKl has 369 signatories. Power to the Parliament! #ACTA #TransparencySep 07 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MPL Alpha 2 released «  Updating the MPL .::. Size~: 7.08 KBSep 07 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CC Movie .::. Size~: 32.59 KBSep 07 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I install it next weekSep 07 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "WRITTEN DECLARATION ... Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) and potentially objectionable content" http://is.gd/eZrKl #ACTA #crimeSep 07 18:56
cubevectorschestowitz, back to what time?Sep 07 19:07
schestowitzcubevector: thanks!Sep 07 19:08
schestowitzAround 3PM GMT... 4 hours agoSep 07 19:09
cubevectorokSep 07 19:09
cubevectorhmmmSep 07 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Advertisers get hands stuck inside HTML5 database cookie jar (Ars) http://bit.ly/8WZ0TnSep 07 19:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Advertisers get hands stuck inside HTML5 database cookie jar .::. Size~: 36.05 KBSep 07 19:11
schestowitzDoesn't have to be exact, I just merge of the endsSep 07 19:11
cubevectorthere's only the scrollbackSep 07 19:14
cubevectorcubezzz isn't onSep 07 19:14
cubevectornot sure about the times, but I'll post the whole thingSep 07 19:14
cubevectorit goes back more than 4 hours thoughSep 07 19:14
schestowitzThat sounds goodSep 07 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] P's first day of grade 5 is over; the new school is great :)Sep 07 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Some Newspapers Shift Coverage After Tracking Readers Online (NYTimes) http://nyti.ms/9oVB4Z (via @techmeme)Sep 07 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @bkuhn which is kinda ridiculous. Paper checks mean manual work, which should have a price. So machines are mroe expensive as people? #failSep 07 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.14 KBSep 07 19:16
cubevectorsince it's a scrollback there's probably ^H and stuff in thereSep 07 19:20
cubevectorhttp://maxhost.org/other/techrights-scrollback.txtSep 07 19:20
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cubevectorhttp://maxhost.org/other/boycottnovell-scrollback.txtSep 07 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 07 19:21
schestowitzThanksSep 07 19:21
cubevectorI'll switch cubezzz back onSep 07 19:22
schestowitzthanksSep 07 19:22
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MinceRcubezzz is turned on now :>Sep 07 19:23
cubevectoractually I can give you the boycottnovell as a log if you wantSep 07 19:23
cubevectorcubezzz was recording in #boycottnovellSep 07 19:23
schestowitzit has no activitySep 07 19:24
schestowitzAt that timeSep 07 19:24
cubevectorokSep 07 19:24
schestowitzI used to have it set up betterSep 07 19:24
cubevectorjust strip out the non-printable characters and it should be fineSep 07 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sunil_abraham: Identity Crisis http://bit.ly/93P3LE Hi-tech without Panchayati Raj is just a bogus stunt for geeks and ner...Sep 07 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @UIDCSCS Inbuilt Security and privacy component on a number or centralised DB. Never trust a database State #uidSep 07 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Creepy Biometric IDs to Be Forced Onto India's 1.2 Billion Inhabitants | | AlterNet http://ow.ly/1qPAX9 #uidSep 07 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @gonsalves_r @geohacker Programme is NIT CALICUTSep 07 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @gonsalves_r No . He have a tight schedule . Next programmes are in kottayam and calicutSep 07 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Identity Crisis: Nation : India Today .::. Size~: 25.88 KBSep 07 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creepy Biometric IDs to Be Forced Onto India's 1.2 Billion Inhabitants |  | AlterNet .::. Size~: 99.54 KBSep 07 19:26
schestowitzcubevector: yeahSep 07 19:26
schestowitzI'm catching up with some news at the moment. Good posts comingSep 07 19:27
cubevectorthe time stamp is %b %d %H:%M:%SSep 07 19:27
cubevectornot sure what %b meansSep 07 19:27
cubevectoranyways, logging on both computers nowSep 07 19:28
MinceRhttp://linux.die.net/man/3/strftimeSep 07 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: strftime(3): format date/time - Linux man page .::. Size~: 17 KBSep 07 19:28
cubevectorah thanksSep 07 19:29
cubevectorand I knew that, but forgot :)Sep 07 19:30
MinceRnpSep 07 19:30
schestowitzHa! http://www.techtree.com/India/Features/Is_it_Time_to_Take_that_Tablet/551-112753-899.html "Manufacturers came up with devices that ran desktop-centric Windows OS or a not-so-popular Linux based distro."Sep 07 19:30
schestowitzSays who?Sep 07 19:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techtree.com India > Features > Is it Time to Take that Tablet? .::. Size~: 54.13 KBSep 07 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] WebOS 2.0 beta screenshot extravaganza http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/07/webos-2-0-beta-screenshot-extravaganza/ !preSep 07 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WebOS 2.0 beta screenshot extravaganza -- Engadget .::. Size~: 66.08 KBSep 07 19:31
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sebsebsebHiSep 07 19:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/omg-exclusive-interview-with-gnome-co-founder-federico-mena/Sep 07 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG! Exclusive: Interview with GNOME co-founder Federico Mena .::. Size~: 56.76 KBSep 07 19:33
schestowitzI saw thatSep 07 19:34
schestowitzThanks thoughSep 07 19:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: I read it this morning/last nightSep 07 19:34
sebsebseband just read some more ignorant comments there or whatever in reply to thatSep 07 19:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: What you think of it?Sep 07 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] NYT Tech Update: Hurd Is Now a President at Oracle, H.P.'s Rival !gnuSep 07 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rather impressed with PCLinux 2010 KDE in live mode, I think I'll prepare my netbook and install it in a few daysSep 07 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'Larry and Sergey's HTML5 balls drained my resources' • The Register http://bit.ly/bLzboFSep 07 19:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Larry and Sergey's HTML5 balls drained my resources' • The Register .::. Size~: 23.45 KBSep 07 19:46
sebsebsebThistleWeb: nice your going PCLOSSep 07 19:47
sebsebsebit seemsSep 07 19:47
sebsebsebThistleWeb: personally their branding and how KDE is themed puts me off,  their Gnome and KDE version, but technically its apparently a very good distroSep 07 19:47
sebsebseband yes I can changes themes and such I know, but I like nice defaults :)Sep 07 19:48
sebsebsebI want good defaultsSep 07 19:48
cubevectorI keep thinking GNU Hurd when I see Hurd :)Sep 07 19:49
sebsebsebcubevector: what?Sep 07 19:50
cubevector [johnsu01/@johnsu01] NYT Tech Update: Hurd Is Now a President at Oracle, H.P.'s Rival !gnuSep 07 19:50
sebsebsebcubevector: someone is called Hurd?Sep 07 19:50
MinceRyesSep 07 19:50
ThistleWebyeah, I just noticed I'd been rather too comfy in mint xfce, it's about time I stepped out of the comfort zone for a whileSep 07 19:51
schestowitzYa hurd!!?Sep 07 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 NYT Tech Update: Hurd Is Now a President at Oracle, H.P.'s Rival !gnuSep 07 19:51
sebsebsebDid anyone read about Oracles plan on how to get new Java developers by the way?Sep 07 19:51
schestowitzWooord upSep 07 19:51
cubevectoris there a way to  request specific VHOSTS for a numeric ip?Sep 07 19:52
cubevectorin the browser?Sep 07 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @tieguy Announced MPL Alpha 2- process participation welcome: http://mpl.mozilla.org/2010/09/07/mpl-alpha-2-released/Sep 07 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Alien - Use Any Package On Any Distribution http://ping.fm/eiZPTSep 07 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Five critical apps for Android that you want to find on iOS http://ping.fm/5IcRxSep 07 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MPL Alpha 2 released «  Updating the MPL .::. Size~: 7.08 KBSep 07 19:56
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Five critical apps for Android that you want to find on iOS .::. Size~: 76.23 KBSep 07 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Well, There Is No i8xx Fix For Ubuntu 10.10 http://ping.fm/PGfhmSep 07 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canonical's Attention to Detail is Starting to Show Up in Ubuntu 10.10 Big Time | Tech Drive-in http://ow.ly/2AHDMSep 07 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Well, There Is No i8xx Fix For Ubuntu 10.10 .::. Size~: 17.51 KBSep 07 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical's Attention to Detail is Starting to Show Up in Ubuntu 10.10 Big Time | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 47.68 KBSep 07 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @mlinksva RT @crhomber !civicrm 3.2.3 is out: http://civicrm.org/blogs/shot/civicrm-323-releasedSep 07 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @tieguy Announced MPL Alpha 2- process participation welcome: http://mpl.mozilla.org/2010/09/07/mpl-alpha-2-released/Sep 07 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CiviCRM 3.2.3 released | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 15.94 KBSep 07 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Could Oracle fracture open source community? - Software - Insight http://ow.ly/2AHTOSep 07 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] diafilter http://ping.fm/BC0zPSep 07 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] testing with and older rev of kio_http, as changes last week seem to be causing problems with plasma widgets ...Sep 07 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] If I use a CC licensed work to create a new work, which license can I use for my CC remix? http://bit.ly/dAPbf4 #CCfactsSep 07 20:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Frequently Asked Questions - CC Wiki .::. Size~: 106.62 KBSep 07 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF win on cell phone location privacy! Location data can have constitutional protection: http://eff.org/r.q83Sep 07 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking News on EFF Location Privacy Win: Courts May Require Search Warrants for Cell Phone Location Records | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.38 KBSep 07 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Bay Area friends, "Copyright Criminals" is screening on 9/23 w/ DJs and a panel f/ Steinski, Amp Live & Jeff Chang: http://bit.ly/91nANTSep 07 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @eff EFF win on cell phone location privacy! Location data can have constitutional protection: http://eff.org/r.q83Sep 07 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ... and FIXED :)Sep 07 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Breaking News on EFF Location Privacy Win: Courts May Require Search Warrants for Cell Phone Location Records http://eff.org/r.q84Sep 07 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SLAYERS CLUB » Copyright Criminals .::. Size~: 35.51 KBSep 07 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking News on EFF Location Privacy Win: Courts May Require Search Warrants for Cell Phone Location Records | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.38 KBSep 07 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: The Widget Interface http://ow.ly/18UaixSep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of Geolocation API Specification http://ow.ly/18UaivSep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Canonical's Attention to Detail is Starting to Show Up in !Ubuntu 10.10 Big Time http://goo.gl/n3P4Sep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Updated Note: Device API Access Control Use Cases and Requirements http://ow.ly/18UaiySep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] XMLHttpRequest Level 2 Draft Published http://ow.ly/18UaiwSep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF win on cell phone location privacy! Location data can have constitutional protection: http://eff.org/r.q83Sep 07 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Breaking News on EFF Location Privacy Win: Courts May Require Search Warrants for Cell Phone Location Records http://eff.org/r.q84Sep 07 20:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical's Attention to Detail is Starting to Show Up in Ubuntu 10.10 Big Time | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 47.68 KBSep 07 20:31
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schestowitzSjype still neglects UNIX/Linux http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Ebay-Conference-Party-Calling-VOIP,news-7939.htmlSep 07 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Party! Skype 5.0 for Windows Has 10-way Calling .::. Size~: 75 KBSep 07 20:40
schestowitzMaybe Cisco can change thatSep 07 20:40
schestowitzCisco is more Linux friendly than eBay.othersSep 07 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: "Copyright Criminals" is screening on 9/23 w/ DJs and a panel f/ Steinski, Amp Live & Jeff Chang: http://bit.ly/91nANTSep 07 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @vvillenave: Ne dites plus "je t'aime", mais "<emotion><dimension name="love" value="0.8"/></emotion>" http://ur1.ca/1hdo8 #emotionMLSep 07 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SLAYERS CLUB » Copyright Criminals .::. Size~: 35.52 KBSep 07 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] The only one thing that #sysresccd lacks? tgtd :PSep 07 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @ibjacobs: We are working on a proposal to make it easier for non-Members to participate in W3C: http://bit.ly/ayGDwFSep 07 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Newstd - W3C Vision .::. Size~: 50.76 KBSep 07 20:46
schestowitzGoogle is attacked some more by Microsoft right nowSep 07 20:50
schestowitzIt' resurfacingSep 07 20:50
schestowitzMicrosoft makes "good" productsSep 07 20:50
schestowitzGood slimeSep 07 20:50
sebsebsebgood vender lock in productsSep 07 20:50
sebsebseb:DSep 07 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quicken can run on !Linux http://blog.syracuse.com/cny/2010/09/quicken_can_run_on_macs.html for those who whine that they need itSep 07 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pick up Telltale Games' Great Adventure Bundle and send 25% to EFF! http://eff.org/r.q95Sep 07 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quicken can run on Macs  | syracuse.com .::. Size~: 58.05 KBSep 07 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's attack on Google (via PR groups is pays) is up a notch. Will post explanations soon...Sep 07 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] WFH office requirements: Laptop, check. Solid Internet pipe, check. USB headset, check. Snoring dog, check. We are go!Sep 07 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Justin Bieber Has Dedicated Servers at Twitter (Gizmodo) http://gizmo.do/dBf1JGSep 07 20:56
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schestowitzTosh: http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3238314/toshiba-recalling-faulty-satellite-laptops-over-heat-hazard/Sep 07 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toshiba recalling faulty Satellite laptops over heat hazard - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 62.44 KBSep 07 20:57
schestowitzOboi.... IDG is pushing Bieber stuff nowSep 07 20:58
ThistleWebone day beiber coould have lame applets attributing odd statements to him like chuck norrisSep 07 21:06
schestowitzHe'll probably crash with his career soonSep 07 21:07
schestowitzThere were pop teens like him... that everyone luckily forgetsSep 07 21:07
schestowitzHe reminds me of The MonkeysSep 07 21:07
schestowitzBaby Baby Baby.... and they call her puppy loveSep 07 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Pick up Telltale Games' Great Adventure Bundle and send 25% to EFF! http://eff.org/r.q95Sep 07 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Looking at Fedora 14 and Ubuntu 10.10 http://lwn.net/Articles/403837/rssSep 07 21:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48951623#notice-49353142 "I think HP's board made a mistake here. Hurd got the company back to profitability"Sep 07 21:12
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schestowitzSee http://techrights.org/2010/08/25/mark-hurd-exit-post-mortem/Sep 07 21:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Evidence Suggests HP CEO Was Ousted Not for Sexual Harassment | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.77 KBSep 07 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Eagerly anticipated Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) released today http://bit.ly/ciW6BJSep 07 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Yahoo Users Can Now Open a Google Account With OpenID (Wired) http://bit.ly/d4DmWNSep 07 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Mint Blog  » Blog Archive   » Linux Mint Debian (201009) released! .::. Size~: 69.57 KBSep 07 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Livetecs.com = 'open source' scam... "Source code price is just US$ 700. [..] ASP.Net 2" http://ur1.ca/1jq1rSep 07 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Launch of TimeLive 3.2.1 an open source time tracking software by Livetecs.com .::. Size~: 64.88 KBSep 07 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] In 1985, someone filed a patent for a brilliant invention: the "Tool" http://is.gd/eZDSE #lol #patentsSep 07 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tool - Google Patent Search .::. Size~: 23.24 KBSep 07 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I wonder if there's a !floss #podcast client for !android ... would be quite nice...Sep 07 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] HP sues Hurd over confidentiality issues http://ur1.ca/1jqchSep 07 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @royhugo In 1985, someone filed a patent for a brilliant invention: the "Tool" http://is.gd/eZDSE #lol #patents > USPTO discredits selfSep 07 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP sues Hurd over confidentiality issues - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.93 KBSep 07 21:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tool - Google Patent Search .::. Size~: 23.24 KBSep 07 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Awesome Right Click Menu Alternative Mockup for !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/aLc6Sep 07 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] @schestowitz: I haven't looked at the patent itself, so I don't know if we can really say that. But sure, the title is not credibleSep 07 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The source code is available in three different licensing versions".... WOT??? http://ur1.ca/1jqeeSep 07 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Awesome Right Click Menu Alternative Mockup for Ubuntu | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 45.44 KBSep 07 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] My piece in the #BostonReview: Democracy After Citizens United: http://bit.ly/bZONI3Sep 07 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Installing PCLinux 2010 KDE on the netbook, it'll make a change from Mint 8 XFCE. It'll take some getting used to tooSep 07 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @yamatt When I saw that HP were suing Hurd for joining Oracle, I thought it meant the Hurd Project not the Hurd CEO.Sep 07 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Boston Review &mdash; Lawrence Lessig: Democracy After Citizens United .::. Size~: 54.67 KBSep 07 21:56
schestowitzRemember how Ellison defended HurdSep 07 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Repaired my Blackberry trackball at #hackerspace in BRU. That much filth really turns me off.Sep 07 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle's Ellison denounced HP for getting rid of Hurd....Saying they were "idiots" to let him go - c.f. http://ur1.ca/18r5mSep 07 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Deccan Herald still demands MSIE or Netscape, otherwise it produces erros. Welcome to the 1990s, #DeccanHeraldSep 07 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Charles Phillips is leaving #SCOracle http://ur1.ca/1jqmsSep 07 22:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle's Hurd for Phillips swap: What's the customer relations impact? - Business - News .::. Size~: 56.43 KBSep 07 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The industry of liars is now co-opting the term 'open source' http://ur1.ca/1jqmsSep 07 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Oleg Bebenin R.I.P. http://www.russian.rfi.fr/node/29708 #belarus #censorship #charter97Sep 07 22:11
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schestowitz"I haven't looked at the patent itself, so I don't know if we can really say that. But sure, the title is not credible" -> "here is one of my favourites: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6368227.html "Sep 07 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @royhugo here is one of my favourites: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6368227.htmlSep 07 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Choices Choices Choices http://ur1.ca/1jqq1 !Linux choice is bad? So say the critics. Choice=bad. :-/Sep 07 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Open IRC meeting with !Wikimedia Trustees: Saturday, 1600 UTC.. Be there! http://ur1.ca/1jqpzSep 07 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eleven is Louder: Choices Choices Choices .::. Size~: 61.03 KBSep 07 22:21
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sebsebsebschestowitz: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/an-urgent-call-for-testing-banshee-1-7-5-on-maverick/Sep 07 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An urgent call for testing: Banshee 1.7.5 on Maverick .::. Size~: 36.88 KBSep 07 22:23
walterbyrdIs Microsoft behind the "google is creepy" smear campaign? The anti-google smear propaganda stunt has been criticized by Wired.com: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/in-defense-of-google/comment-page-1/ And Groklaw.net: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100904101642564 And BusinessInsider.com: http://www.businessinsider.com/anti-google-privacy-group-consumer-watchdog-is-tracking-your-clicks-with-google-analytics-2Sep 07 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Defense of Google, Or Why Consumer Watchdog is Full of It | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 117.65 KBSep 07 22:24
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Bye Rythombox Hello Banshee, and I known for quite a while they will do Banshee by default in netbook edition.Sep 07 22:24
sebsebsebBye Bye Rythombox, hello more default MonoSep 07 22:25
sebsebsebor maybe not quite, since F-Spot is being replaced by ShotwellSep 07 22:25
schestowitzwalterbyrd: yesSep 07 22:25
schestowitzIt's EdelmanSep 07 22:25
schestowitzAstroTurf EterprisesSep 07 22:25
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schestowitzMicrosoft probably hired themSep 07 22:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/48966156#notice-49366205 "Too much choice can be bad. http://pnt.me/slS7mi :) !linux"Sep 07 22:31
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schestowitzsebsebseb: thanks for the linkSep 07 22:31
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schestowitzI would have missed it otherwiseSep 07 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Check out GNOME Do! apt:gnome-doSep 07 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thunderbird 3.1.3 and 3.0.7 security updates now available http://lwn.net/Articles/403888/rssSep 07 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thunderbird 3.1.3 and 3.0.7 security updates now available [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.72 KBSep 07 22:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: it seems according to a comment though, that it migh not be defaultSep 07 22:32
schestowitzNot for desktopSep 07 22:33
schestowitzFor UNESep 07 22:33
schestowitzI know this, but not sure about 11.04Sep 07 22:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: the plan is or was Banshee by default in UNE 10.10Sep 07 22:33
schestowitzYes, it's still onSep 07 22:34
schestowitzWeirdSep 07 22:34
sebsebsebyeah seems like it from that linkSep 07 22:34
schestowitzBashee is heavySep 07 22:34
sebsebsebhence wanting it testedSep 07 22:34
schestowitzAnd people complainedSep 07 22:34
schestowitzSo they put it..... on low-end computersSep 07 22:34
schestowitzmakes no senseSep 07 22:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: apparently it has a nicer UI   for netbooks, according to  the comment from their latestSep 07 22:34
sebsebsebBanshee and what notSep 07 22:34
sebsebsebguySep 07 22:34
sebsebsebwho does blog enteries on thereSep 07 22:34
schestowitzJoey?Sep 07 22:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: no this DavidSep 07 22:35
schestowitzOMG's David?Sep 07 22:35
schestowitzOr Canonical's David?Sep 07 22:35
schestowitzSiegelSep 07 22:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: David NeilsenSep 07 22:35
sebsebsebwhoever that isSep 07 22:35
sebsebsebthe OMG DavidSep 07 22:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: theres a comment on that link, from him, that  says about UISep 07 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] 3 days until end of #exams. Finally I can go back to do useful work. I'm tired of having to prove myself when I want to prove other stuffSep 07 22:36
schestowitzThere's no bone to pick with "OMG"Sep 07 22:37
schestowitzBut they are not careful of MonoSep 07 22:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: Banshee and Gnome-DO loads of the Ubuntu fan boys love themSep 07 22:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: and OMG Ubuntu will mention apps, whatever their lisenceSep 07 22:37
sebsebsebthey don't care if something is closed source or written in Mono,  if it runs on Ubuntu, and is useful for certain people, then yeah, they may mention itSep 07 22:38
sebsebsebschestowitz: and it seems that loads of the Ubuntu developers aren't worried about MonoSep 07 22:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: heh look down the page a bit, someone says something bad about Mono, and then someone else is like, shut up,  Banshee still winsSep 07 22:41
sebsebseboh that site and the amount of ignorant commenters :DSep 07 22:41
sebsebsebIs Ryan coming back?Sep 07 22:41
schestowitzNoSep 07 22:42
schestowitzWhy, you want him?Sep 07 22:42
schestowitzWe've been getting a lot less discussion here about Vista since he leftSep 07 22:43
schestowitzAnd no attacks on Linux, eitherSep 07 22:43
sebsebseboh rightSep 07 22:43
sebsebsebwell a lot of stuff he said wasn't exactly appropriate I guess, but  he did make the old channel interesting at times as wellSep 07 22:44
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schestowitzHe upset peopleSep 07 22:45
sebsebsebyeah here and thereSep 07 22:45
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sebsebsebschestowitz: he really got at Jono at times or something for example,  I don't really know the detailsSep 07 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Free for a limited time: 50 new songs this week: http://amzn.to/9nCjBO [US only but a GREAT selection]Sep 07 22:56
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MinceRi think we're better off without DaemonFCSep 07 22:59
MinceReven if he was right about attacking jono (at least in one case)Sep 07 22:59
MinceRgnSep 07 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless wiktionary.org.Sep 07 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @ACLU Challenges Laptop Searches & Seizures at the Border http://bit.ly/92JfhtSep 07 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @dotRights In anti-privacy GPS news VA Court says police can plant GPS tracker on suspect's car w/o a warrant. http://bit.ly/aoUVwkSep 07 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/9/2010: Debate About Choices in !GNU !Linux , #LinuxMint 9 #Fluxbox is Released http://ur1.ca/1jr9oSep 07 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] CodePlex.com donates $25,000 to Mercurial project http://lwn.net/Articles/403903/rssSep 07 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CodePlex.com donates $25,000 to Mercurial project [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.01 KBSep 07 23:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: ThistleWeb  That's a point auto login was enabled if I remember correctly when I tried the beta in a vm, which is silly.  Also indeed about the seperate /home like is also mentioned on this webpage. http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/ubuntu-10-10-beta-review/Sep 07 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 beta review  | Linux User .::. Size~: 39.26 KBSep 07 23:33
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ThistleWebuhmSep 07 23:34
sebsebseboh hi _GoblinSep 07 23:34
_GoblinHi!Sep 07 23:34
sebsebseb_Goblin: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/ubuntu-10-10-beta-review/Sep 07 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 beta review  | Linux User .::. Size~: 39.26 KBSep 07 23:34
schestowitzyano_t: http://identi.ca/conversation/48958161#notice-49369949 "Dude, where did you find that?"Sep 07 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.14 KBSep 07 23:35
schestowitz[23:26] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [lwnnet/@lwnnet] CodePlex.com donates $25,000 to Mercurial projectSep 07 23:35
schestowitzs/donates/bribes/Sep 07 23:35
schestowitzNow they have to play with MicrosoftSep 07 23:35
sebsebseb_Goblin:  I like the bottom of that page :)   where it mentions auto log in and seperate /home.  If I remember correctly auto log in was enabled on the beta if I remember correctly, which is stupid.  Also indeed about seperate /homeSep 07 23:35
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway the new Gnome log in screen sucksSep 07 23:36
sebsebsebso maybe auto log in, isn't that bad after allSep 07 23:37
_GoblinI won't be deploying 10.10 to anyone for quite a while...as I said before, when installing for others I choose a version slightly behind....When 10.10 is officially released, I will be moving people to the 10.04LTS...I think I will keep them there for a while...Sep 07 23:42
_GoblinHaving said that, after running Sabayon on my main rig without issue, I am becoming more and more persuaded to consider starting to deploy Sabayon instead.Sep 07 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We're looking for a passionate & innovative activist to join @EFF full-time for the fight for digital civil liberties! http://eff.org/r.q97Sep 07 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @eff We're looking for a passionate & innovative activist to join @EFF full-time for the fight for digital civil liberties! http://ef ...Sep 07 23:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Q: Why is it written in Mono/C#? A: Because I hate freedom.” http://ur1.ca/1jrhf #mono #swpats !ubuntuSep 07 23:51
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