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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Carlo Piana relays a message from Oracle to assure us they've not started a patent war: http://icio.us/fma1caSep 09 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle vs. Google, not a private rant | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 11.25 KBSep 09 00:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: Looks pretty good from the video  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/survival-horror-game-amnesia-the-dark-descent-released/Sep 09 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Survival horror game Amnesia: The Dark Descent released .::. Size~: 38.78 KBSep 09 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] FSF: "It's sad Google shunned the GPL's protections to make proprietary software development easier on Android": http://icio.us/2chsusSep 09 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @schestowitz If you run !Linux and the !Xfce desktop, you can run over 9000. So what? :DSep 09 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @schestowitz I love how Identica can't put replies in the right thread context. I replied to the KDE comment, not the UT3 one.Sep 09 00:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 24.15 KBSep 09 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith it's betterSep 09 00:11
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_Goblinhi allSep 09 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/9/2010: GNU/Linux Market Share Debate, #ACTA Meets Barriers http://ur1.ca/1k3sr !techrights #roundupSep 09 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 8/9/2010: GNU/Linux Market Share Debate, ACTA Meets Barriers | Techrights .::. Size~: 147.56 KBSep 09 00:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Linux Basement is a very good podcast. If you havent listened yet, do so! http://linuxbasement.com/ !linux !foss !podcastSep 09 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Basement | Linux Lurking Beneath .::. Size~: 31.07 KBSep 09 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] China requires ID to buy cell phone numbers http://eff.org/r.5qBSep 09 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 arrested in European raids on Internet piracy .::. Size~: 104.36 KBSep 09 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] #peppermint Linux hits number 27 on Distrowatch charts!!!! Well done Peppermint devs! !linux !foss !peppermintSep 09 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Update to my John Brown Russwurm page - Winston James' bio "The Struggles of JBR" + Freedom's Journal Archive http://russwurm.org/JBR/Sep 09 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] BP spill fallout may lead to extinctions http://ur1.ca/1k4bsSep 09 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: John Brown Russwurm .::. Size~: 25.88 KBSep 09 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Beyond "Censored": What Craigslist's "Adult Services" Decision Means for Free Speech http://eff.org/r.5qDSep 09 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beyond "Censored":  What Craigslist's "Adult Services" Decision Means for Free Speech  | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.48 KBSep 09 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless AdBlock Plus.Sep 09 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tokyo Two get suspended sentance http://ur1.ca/1k4w6Sep 09 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: We don't bully government regulators. We just tease them because we like them so much. http://ow.ly/2Bt... http://ping.fm/HJ19oSep 09 02:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / BP Public Relations: We don't bully government  ... .::. Size~: 12.08 KBSep 09 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for September 9, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/403539/rssSep 09 02:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 09 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Don't know if I have said this before but #MVC programming rocks!Sep 09 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Big labour protests in France http://ur1.ca/1k5lfSep 09 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] One of life's most important questions right now: Assuming you don't want Adobe #flash, should you choose #swfdec or #gnash? #linux #fedoraSep 09 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Today,I clearly won a real-life #swpats debate for the 1st time. I owe @ciaran and all ppl who made swpat.org such a great resource beer. :)Sep 09 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Pastor's former church condemns burning. http://shortn.it/iHgJSep 09 04:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Even pastors old church condemns Quran-burning | The Upshot Yahoo! News - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 112.43 KBSep 09 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Rare apes slaughtered for bushmeat http://ur1.ca/1k69vSep 09 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Beyond "Censored": What Craigslist's "Adult Services" Decision Means for Free Speech http://eff.org/r.5qDSep 09 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: China requires ID to buy cell phone numbers http://eff.org/r.5qBSep 09 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] testing UNR on the netbookSep 09 04:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beyond "Censored":  What Craigslist's "Adult Services" Decision Means for Free Speech  | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.48 KBSep 09 04:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 arrested in European raids on Internet piracy .::. Size~: 103.78 KBSep 09 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: European Parliament passes anti-ACTA declaration http://eff.org/r.q6ASep 09 04:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Future of the Internet Symposium: Lessons in Designing for Privacy http://eff.org/r.q99Sep 09 04:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament passes anti-ACTA declaration .::. Size~: 26.35 KBSep 09 04:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Concurring Opinions   » Future of the Internet Symposium: Lessons in Designing for Privacy .::. Size~: 85.83 KBSep 09 04:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Waiting for the bus after pinball and hotdogs. #mbtaSep 09 04:41
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: there are a bunch of links under BILL GATES in the sidebar of this article, did you check any of them out? https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/the-lines-of-influence-in-education-reform/Sep 09 04:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Lines of Influence in Education Reform | Seattle Education 2010 .::. Size~: 223.12 KBSep 09 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Three http://bit.ly/bO1TtHSep 09 05:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Three «  Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 105.04 KBSep 09 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] No more "Adult Services" on Craigslist http://ur1.ca/1k6ytSep 09 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] methinks there'll be no Tcl or Python tonight. Far too late to start anything.Sep 09 05:26
cubevectorman, I love kde 3.5.10Sep 09 05:48
cubevectorI've been using kde >= 3 for 6 years nowSep 09 05:49
cubevectoror rather just various versions of kde 3Sep 09 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt@noah_stewart #Open sharing of data pays dividends for #Alzheimers #research. http://www.ur1.ca/1k7ap/13alzheimer.html !lpSep 09 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @THREsq Did you know that Daily Variety is suing a popular punk rock band? http://www.ur1.ca/1k7bd !copyfight #trademark #idiocySep 09 05:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did you know that Daily Variety is suing a popular punk rock band? .::. Size~: 44.2 KBSep 09 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @THREsq Lucas sues 2 stop 'Jedi Mind' wireless headset-dominion over Jedi robes, levitation, telepathy http://www.ur1.ca/1k7c1 !copyfightSep 09 06:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: George Lucas sues to stop 'Jedi Mind' wireless headset .::. Size~: 43.28 KBSep 09 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Dear George Lucas: I hate to tell you this but Jedi robes look pretty much like monk robes that have been around for hundreds of years...Sep 09 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...and George, you may have assigned the power to levitate objects to Jedi Knights but you certainly didn't originate the idea... !copyfightSep 09 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] But really, George, "a telepathic oneness with other Jedi".... you're kidding right? Mr. Spock's telepathic connection was stronger...Sep 09 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...even Mr. Spock didn't originate "telepathic oneness", George. Although I'll grant you sole dominion over the light saber...!copyrightSep 09 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thing is, George, you took bits and pieces from cultures, fairytales and myths around the world to make your Star Wars movie. !copyrightSep 09 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] George, nobody minds that you remixed the ideas, art and fashions that others originated from the public domain and into a movie !copyrightSep 09 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Here's the rub Mr. Lucas, It does NOT give you the right to strip those things from the public domain and lock them up behind !copyrightSep 09 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Risky business: GM salmon http://ur1.ca/1k7l1Sep 09 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] To resolve the Italian political situation we could contract the government out to Switzerland.Sep 09 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @tinucherian: Kannada #Wikipedia just hit 9,000 articles & Malayalam 14,000 articles . Congrats to all our volunteers who c...Sep 09 06:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @sankarshan The lack of an informed tech trade press would be the undoing of all the glorious 'innovation' talk that permeates the nation.Sep 09 06:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Offshore drilling challenged in the UK http://ur1.ca/1k8arSep 09 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Iron Man using !kde http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/iron-man-using-kdeSep 09 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iron Man using KDE?! .::. Size~: 23.39 KBSep 09 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @patcito Oracle 1994: "Patents aren't appropriate for the software development industry in which innovations occur rapidly" http://u ...Sep 09 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Red Voices, a new podcast from !manutd dot com https://twitter.com/BenHibbs/status/23932607750Sep 09 08:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Ben Hibbs: Second edition of the offi ... .::. Size~: 11.83 KBSep 09 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Teachers Demand That Bill Gates Gets Thrown Out of the Education System and Stops Controlling Coverage http://ur1.ca/1k8tc #education #prSep 09 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Teachers Demand That Bill Gates Gets Thrown Out of the Education System and Stops Controlling Coverage | Techrights .::. Size~: 115.47 KBSep 09 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: Patent Lawyers Sued for Software Patent Violations, Other New Absurdities http://ur1.ca/1k8w6 #swpatsSep 09 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patents Roundup: Patent Lawyers Sued for Software Patent Violations, Other New Absurdities | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.18 KBSep 09 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tokyo Two get suspended sentence http://ur1.ca/1k8xiSep 09 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Trolling the trolls, OMG! http://ur1.ca/1k8w6 More #swpats madness (via Roy Schestowitz)Sep 09 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patents Roundup: Patent Lawyers Sued for Software Patent Violations, Other New Absurdities | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.18 KBSep 09 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who dares question the industrial food system over GM salmon? http://ur1.ca/1k98p "foisted upon the public yet another cancer risk."Sep 09 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Who dares question the industrial food system over GM salmon? | Dan Kennedy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 207.43 KBSep 09 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'm seeing many Mac sites claiming that iOS got past GNU/Linux, forgetting to metion that NetApps which they cite is Apple funded (!!)Sep 09 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see this interview about Software Freedom Day in AU. Well done Donna! http://ur1.ca/1k9d9 #fbSep 09 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red: Software Freedom Day  - ABC Victoria - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) .::. Size~: 54.82 KBSep 09 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Caitlyn Martin: Debunking the 1% Myth http://goo.gl/Px5k According to Caitlyn, the market share of !Linux on the desktop is around 8%.Sep 09 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debunking the 1% Myth - O'Reilly Broadcast .::. Size~: 244.6 KBSep 09 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Traffic lights off in this part of !Milano. Traffic never been so smooth.Sep 09 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People protest about Digg's changes and leave. The same Microsoft trolls from Digg and USENET are already on Reddit. I see the nicknames.Sep 09 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The GPL is next http://ur1.ca/1k9lqSep 09 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Reddit fails to suppress trolls who only use personal abuse and intimidation, it too will become the next target (after Digg) to trolls.Sep 09 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @rms: The GPL is next http://ur1.ca/1k9lq < +1, though Islam != integralist islamic states (or terrorism).Sep 09 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I have commented [...] the share is much closer to 10% than to 1%. Caitlyn Martin has a similar analysis [...] 8%." http://ur1.ca/1k9tbSep 09 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The 1% Solution at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 35.78 KBSep 09 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does anyone from Brasil happen to know of a site that published OS market share based on visitors? !gnu !linux #brazilSep 09 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies" ~famous sayingSep 09 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian is a clever guy, so it's hard to understand why he promotes interests that harm his peers, including former colleaguesSep 09 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora >> Statistics http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics "TOTAL UNIQUE IPs: 24,460,018"Sep 09 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Statistics - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 33.4 KBSep 09 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: Some progress on Daily Builds (Launchpad) http://goo.gl/Dv3RSep 09 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Some progress on Daily Builds .::. Size~: 7 KBSep 09 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Stepping back in time: The evolution of !OMG Ubuntu! in screenshots - http://goo.gl/uIFLSep 09 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Post The Song You're Listening To In #Rhythmbox To Twitter Or !Identica http://goo.gl/Xdt9 Please, don't do it, it's very annoyingSep 09 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stepping back in time: The evolution of OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 32.32 KBSep 09 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Post The Song You're Listening To In Rhythmbox To Twitter Or Identi.ca [Rhythmbox Microblogger Plugin] ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 64.95 KBSep 09 10:01
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-conference-in-Switzerland-next-week-1074014.htmlSep 09 10:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora conference in Switzerland next week - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.82 KBSep 09 10:02
MinceRo haiSep 09 10:03
MinceRhttp://jezebel.com/5632851/gamer-punished-for-living-in-a-town-named-gaySep 09 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gamer Punished For Living In A Town Named Gay .::. Size~: 76.43 KBSep 09 10:06
schestowitzYesSep 09 10:08
schestowitzI have it queued for mentioning laterSep 09 10:08
MinceR:)Sep 09 10:08
schestowitzNot the first such incidentSep 09 10:08
schestowitzMicrosoft is afraid of happinessSep 09 10:08
schestowitzIt also treats lesbians as vulgarSep 09 10:09
schestowitzhttp://thepcspy.com/read/one-percent-myth-is-pretty-accurate/Sep 09 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux "1% myth" is pretty accurate .::. Size~: 8.74 KBSep 09 10:13
schestowitzThe Microsoft troll Bill Weisgerber spreads junk again:Sep 09 10:13
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/09/08/the-1-solution/Sep 09 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The 1% Solution at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 35.78 KBSep 09 10:13
MinceR"But if you use a client-side script to count your users, usually only browsers trigger as real visits." -- right, all browsers run all scripts...oh wait, no they don't.Sep 09 10:17
MinceRi wonder how many visitors using Lynx, Links or eLinks did he count with those "infallible" methods of his :>Sep 09 10:19
MinceRor DilloSep 09 10:19
MinceRor Firefox with NoScriptSep 09 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Mozilla Labs To Promote Open Web Gaming: http://2tu.us/2n13 !lp !lpitalia !fsfSep 09 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 30 Brilliant examples of JavaScript and HTML5 Uses http://ping.fm/KJz5kSep 09 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Linux market share is 8x larger than most people think? http://ping.fm/FrxGGSep 09 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Eban Moglen: Doing What It Takes: Current Legal Issues in Defending FOSS http://ping.fm/vKHiGSep 09 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | Mozilla Labs To Promote Open Web Gaming .::. Size~: 146.83 KBSep 09 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 30 Brilliant examples of JavaScript Use .::. Size~: 50.98 KBSep 09 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Linux market share is 8x larger than most people think? .::. Size~: 35.32 KBSep 09 10:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eban Moglen: Current Legal Issues in Defending FOSS | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 52.73 KBSep 09 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MetGate: A Guide to the Current Issues - http://bit.ly/dyplui good summary of the (exciting) saga so far #metgate #hackgateSep 09 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Detailed Groklaw's analysis of what's behind antitrust investigation on Google http://ur1.ca/1kaat - same vein as my http://ur1.ca/1kaauSep 09 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Classical Music Inspired By The Sea - http://bit.ly/9rYo56 another nicely original and stimulating playlist #spotify #seaSep 09 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack of Kent: MetGate: A Guide to the Current Issues .::. Size~: 74.26 KBSep 09 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - A Peek Behind the Curtain of the Texas Antitrust Complaints against Google - Updated 3Xs .::. Size~: 308.99 KBSep 09 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Let's keep eye on the ball | Carlo Piana :: Law is Freedom :: .::. Size~: 20 KBSep 09 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spotify Classical Playlists: Classical Music Inspired By The Sea .::. Size~: 77.02 KBSep 09 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] rmathew: Protecting Your Privacy on Linux http://ow.ly/2BBSHSep 09 10:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: rmathew: Protecting Your Privacy on Linux .::. Size~: 81.59 KBSep 09 10:41
schestowitz[10:19] <MinceR> or Firefox with NoScriptSep 09 10:53
schestowitzIt does not say what the sites cover or where they are.Sep 09 10:53
MinceRthat tooSep 09 10:53
MinceRno disclosure, just like net applicationsSep 09 10:53
MinceR"trust me, these stats are unbiased, really!"Sep 09 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BBC iPlayer upgrade threat to enterprise bandwidth - ComputerworldUK.com http://ow.ly/2BCcvSep 09 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC iPlayer upgrade threat to enterprise bandwidth - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 65.54 KBSep 09 10:56
schestowitzhttp://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm "roy, it's 2% Linux for general site wikimedia, which are the least biased numbers you're going to find. http://is.gd/f2cJR " http://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/23995869952Sep 09 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikimedia Visitor Log Analysis Report - Operating Systems .::. Size~: 18 KBSep 09 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikimedia Visitor Log Analysis Report - Operating Systems .::. Size~: 18 KBSep 09 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz roy, it's 2%  ... .::. Size~: 8.34 KBSep 09 11:00
schestowitzThis assumes that GNU/Linux clients always identify themselves as Linux and don't get re-routed http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3687616/Can-Linux-Adoption-Ever-be-Accurately-Gauged.htmSep 09 11:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can Linux Adoption Ever be Accurately Gauged? &mdash; Datamation.com .::. Size~: 69.21 KBSep 09 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Attempt to write novel about #SunRPC has resulted in weird dreams about the characters involved.Sep 09 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is !Linux market share is 8x larger than most people think? http://ur1.ca/1ka2e via @silnerSep 09 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software Patents Consigned To History Under New Zealand's New Patents Act - Mondaq News Alerts http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usgSep 09 11:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Redirect Notice .::. Size~: 1.18 KBSep 09 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux ‘top command’ used in Tron trailer… http://ping.fm/yL2ZoSep 09 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Is !Linux market share is 8x larger than most people think? http://ur1.ca/1ka2e via @silnerSep 09 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner that link is broken, I am afraid.Sep 09 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to the Civic Commons - http://bit.ly/aF0LbP why can't government departments share nicely? #commons #ogov #sharingSep 09 11:06
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Welcome to the Civic Commons .::. Size~: 67.39 KBSep 09 11:06
schestowitz[10:54] <MinceR> "trust me, these stats are unbiased, really!" > Unless they  halve Mac market share overnightSep 09 11:08
schestowitzMaybe the cash from Jobs lapsedSep 09 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eben Moglen #LinuxCon Keynote: Current Legal Issues in Defending FOSS http://ur1.ca/1kap5 !fsf #swpats #playoggSep 09 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eben Moglen LinuxCon Keynote: Current Legal Issues in Defending FOSS | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.82 KBSep 09 11:11
schestowitz"@schestowitz show me the evidence for this speculation. until then it's spurious." http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23996362922Sep 09 11:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz show me the e ... .::. Size~: 8.16 KBSep 09 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana try http://www.mondaq.com/article.asp?articleid=109684 it's subs-only, via @silnerSep 09 11:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Zealand, Intellectual Property, Software Patents Consigned To History Under New Zealand's New Patents Act - Shelston IP - 08/09/2010, Patent .::. Size~: 70.47 KBSep 09 11:21
schestowitzmany browsers including mine fake headers in order to get into dumb sites that parse HTTP headersSep 09 11:22
schestowitzthe stats shown by wikimedia - are they evenly distributed on a gegraphical basis (where speed connections across world are taken into account)?Sep 09 11:23
schestowitz"see, all the strong evidence says 1-2%. allegations of conspiracy have to then include WMF as a conspirator. " http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23996447366Sep 09 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz see, all the  ... .::. Size~: 8.23 KBSep 09 11:25
schestowitzWhat we are trying to measure is installed based (not all connected to the WWW) which is worldwide, normalisedSep 09 11:26
schestowitzI think they forget that US surfers get more pagesSep 09 11:26
schestowitzFast connections...Sep 09 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @carlopiana @schestowitz: The question occurs to me: if enough nations explicitly bar software patents, isn't it the USA with the problem?Sep 09 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/9/2010: !GNU !Linux Market Share Debated, #EXT4 and #Btrfs Tested in Linux 2.6.36 http://ur1.ca/1kbgi !techrightsSep 09 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 9/9/2010: GNU/Linux Market Share Debated, EXT4 and Btrfs Tested in Linux 2.6.36 | Techrights .::. Size~: 122.34 KBSep 09 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @carlopiana: Thanks. I'll have to watch that. For some reason (I have no idea why) Ping didn't shorten that link properly.Sep 09 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid Dear almost-but-not-quite FOSS companies: Yes, you can make $$$ selling FOSS. How? Just ask. Clue 1 - community is not for mon ...Sep 09 12:11
oiaohmAlso notice they changes in the Linux world.  schestowitzSep 09 12:19
oiaohmThere is starting to be a return to the traditions of focus on security as well.Sep 09 12:20
MinceRi like his icon thoughSep 09 12:21
MinceRdavidgerard's, that isSep 09 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Report Bugs http://tinyurl.com/2uj79zpSep 09 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lubuntu Screencast: Report Bugs | lubuntu .::. Size~: 22.67 KBSep 09 12:21
schestowitz" @schestowitz everyone talks about desktop. and rather than show evidence, they claim Microsoft conspiracy. but the numbers match." http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23997815639Sep 09 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz everyone talk ... .::. Size~: 8.25 KBSep 09 12:25
schestowitzNo, they claim Western biasSep 09 12:25
MinceRtell him tooSep 09 12:25
MinceRand not just western bias, also usian biasSep 09 12:25
schestowitz"i would prefer to work from accurate information, not speculation. definite non-shifting falsifiable claims are good too. " http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23997905905Sep 09 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz i would prefe ... .::. Size~: 8.26 KBSep 09 12:26
schestowitzEveryone uses AppleSep 09 12:26
schestowitzEven in BRazil :-)Sep 09 12:26
MinceR:>Sep 09 12:26
schestowitzThey all use hypePodsSep 09 12:26
schestowitz"Cause all my friends do"Sep 09 12:26
MinceRwhere do they get the money for that?Sep 09 12:26
schestowitz"Every normal person has a car..."Sep 09 12:26
MinceRlolSep 09 12:26
MinceRgood thing i'm normal thenSep 09 12:26
schestowitz90% are not normalSep 09 12:26
MinceR:>Sep 09 12:27
schestowitzThey are abnormal... fringesSep 09 12:27
schestowitz"you would need actual evidence that 80% of linux users are faking UA headers to read Wikipedia." http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23997976623Sep 09 12:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz you would nee ... .::. Size~: 8.21 KBSep 09 12:31
schestowitzHere's a suggested scenario. Remove bots/zombies from Wikipedia logs, then study global distribution, UIPs not enough.Sep 09 12:33
oiaohmThere are many reasons why Linux users are harder to count.Sep 09 12:34
oiaohmLot of Linux users are more secuirty aware.Sep 09 12:34
schestowitzSurfers in Brazil don't get any/many pages, not from same sites as Westerners/zombie PCsSep 09 12:34
MinceRoiaohm: exactly.Sep 09 12:35
schestowitzThere are not many of them, eitrherSep 09 12:36
schestowitzSome will say, "but very few care about privacy"Sep 09 12:36
schestowitzWell, those who do don't use OS X and WindowsSep 09 12:36
MinceR:>Sep 09 12:36
schestowitzPopulations alignSep 09 12:36
oiaohmReally people are not aware how often techs use Linux to rescue windows.Sep 09 12:37
schestowitz"the wmf stats are worldwide and unprocessed. they are measured at the servers. if they showed 10% would you be objecting?" http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/23998058849Sep 09 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz the wmf stats ... .::. Size~: 8.26 KBSep 09 12:37
schestowitzYou would need to show that WMF access is equally distributed among nations, e.g. that x% among *all* counties use the serverSep 09 12:38
schestowitz"your arguments are reminiscent of Carl Sagan's invisible dragon http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm " http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/24001278857Sep 09 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz your argument ... .::. Size~: 8.34 KBSep 09 12:39
schestowitz"hypothetical: perhaps the large amount of actual evidence is accurate and desktop linux is ~2%. what would be correct to do?" http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/24001358796Sep 09 12:40
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schestowitzme: it might be useful to do a census in some countries (inc. dual boots)Sep 09 12:41
oiaohmThere are lots of way Linux numbers hide.Sep 09 12:42
oiaohmHeck some businesses run windows in virtual machines with main operations in Linux.Sep 09 12:43
oiaohmSo yes they could be counted as windows when in fact is just a virtual form.Sep 09 12:43
schestowitzTo make a hypothetical (ish) point, if (all) Wikipedia access logs showed 4% access from the US, then you'd say evenly distributed...Sep 09 12:44
oiaohmReally the battle for the desktop has not fully started.Sep 09 12:45
schestowitzIt's not desktops nowSep 09 12:45
schestowitzTablets, sub-notebooks, smartphonesSep 09 12:45
schestowitzGrowth areaSep 09 12:45
schestowitzdesktops/laptops slowingSep 09 12:45
oiaohmLook at Zentyal  distribution working to be a replacement to SBS servers.  They are looking to include boot from network.Sep 09 12:46
oiaohmSo how long before Windows Server has to ship with free Desktop OS to compete.Sep 09 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Gwibber 2.31.92 seems to have developed a really odd bug. It takes ages to switch services off and on (using "send with" buttons) !GwibberSep 09 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Gwibber And here's something even odder. It all speeds up again when I remove the (as yet non working) Buzz account. Maybe too many buttonsSep 09 12:46
oiaohmThe focus on virtualisation is reducing the importances of the OS on the desktop.Sep 09 12:50
oiaohmReally its the mistake Ubuntu server and most other server distributions are targeting.Sep 09 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Gwibber What was today's update fixing? Nothing more works for me anyway. !GwibberSep 09 12:51
oiaohmHow many are simple to set to get a business up and running.Sep 09 12:51
schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100906/14462810915.shtmlSep 09 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fidel Castro: Loves The Internet... Even As Cubans Are Blocked From Using Most Of It | Techdirt .::. Size~: 29.05 KBSep 09 12:53
schestowitzoiaohm: some areSep 09 12:55
schestowitzNot marketed as LinuxSep 09 12:55
schestowitzI can't remember their nameSep 09 12:55
schestowitzThey come with loads of software installSep 09 12:55
schestowitzShredPoint [sic] the FOSS waySep 09 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] US court rejects Binyam Mohamed #torture case http://ur1.ca/1kc4iSep 09 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US court rejects Binyam Mohamed torture case | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 140.12 KBSep 09 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SMH uses a picture (and words) to compare illegal copying to violent attack on boats http://ur1.ca/1kc70 #fail #propagandaSep 09 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-09-09: FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents "Google could have avoi... http://bit.ly/dxFZZlSep 09 13:11
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oiaohmhttp://www.justaddmonkeys.com/shredpoint/  Sometimes worth the laugh.  schestowitzSep 09 13:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shredpoint : your pain starts& now ! .::. Size~: 51.01 KBSep 09 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Trying once again to type around elbow nudging of @dixieva.Sep 09 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This is a funny article about “Line-ooks” http://www.sys-con.com/node/1523620Sep 09 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @dfscot: RT @bbcbusiness: Game over for gambling monopolies? http://bbc.in/b8zRzr < intriguing newsSep 09 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux in minutes: What is it and What it Can Do | SYS-CON MEDIA .::. Size~: 75.48 KBSep 09 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Is the game up for online gambling monopolies?  .::. Size~: 52.15 KBSep 09 13:26
schestowitzoiaohm: ohSep 09 13:30
schestowitzSo I wasn't first to come up with it :-)Sep 09 13:30
oiaohmOk I would thought you would have known of that blog.Sep 09 13:31
oiaohmshredpoint goes back to the early days of sharepoint.Sep 09 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New: OOo-DEV 3.3.x Developer Snapshot (build OOO330m7) available http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_ooo_dev_3_35 #Oracle #OOOoSep 09 13:31
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oiaohmWhen it would quite litterally shot it database completely destroying all data contained.  schestowitzSep 09 13:32
oiaohmIe shredpointSep 09 13:32
schestowitzoiaohm: I didn't know about the termSep 09 13:32
oiaohmOf course sharepoint at times still shows shredpoint actions.Sep 09 13:33
schestowitzyeah, we have some posts about itSep 09 13:33
oiaohmI am currently writing a list of features a small business distribution should go after.Sep 09 13:35
oiaohmI have a nightmare small business on my hands.  it is not a large business but it has 6 different operationing locations.Sep 09 13:36
oiaohmAnd that is not counting on the move work.Sep 09 13:36
oiaohmNote its a 3 person crew doing rural medical.  schestowitzSep 09 13:37
oiaohmI think it has to be the worst form of small business to trying to design computer systems for.Sep 09 13:38
oiaohmParticularlly thinking they need solid records.Sep 09 13:38
schestowitzIDG tries to rile people up against Oracle, still http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/oracle-gobbles-open-sourceSep 09 13:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Gobbles Up Open Source | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 74.17 KBSep 09 13:39
schestowitzTrying to take attention off Microsoft, shame on themSep 09 13:39
oiaohmReally Oracle does.Sep 09 13:39
oiaohmBut Oracle does not hide the fact.Sep 09 13:39
oiaohmMS has made a lot of open source just cease to exist too.Sep 09 13:40
oiaohmHey schestowitz do you have a list of items MS has taken over and destroyed the open source or the Linux support on.Sep 09 13:40
schestowitzNot a good listSep 09 13:40
schestowitzScatteredSep 09 13:40
oiaohmReally that is the counter and explain why techrights is not reacting that bad to Oracles actions.Sep 09 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How an Anti-Piracy Firm Became Banned In Its Own Country - http://bit.ly/axWzro tragic... #piracy #switzerlandSep 09 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Despite Naysayers, Android Is Definitely Linux-based http://ur1.ca/1kcsb Don't be a stranger, GoogleSep 09 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    How an Anti-Piracy Firm Became Banned In Its Own Country | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 41.58 KBSep 09 13:41
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oiaohmLot of Microsoft actions have taken great feature away from open source.Sep 09 13:42
schestowitzThis blog is poison: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/even-bill-and-ted-had-grow-so-does-open-sourcSep 09 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Even Bill and Ted Had To Grow Up, So Does Open Source | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 80.65 KBSep 09 13:43
schestowitzThey try to kill freedomSep 09 13:43
schestowitzAnd 'commercialise' open source, i.e. make it proprietary with 'core' and all thatSep 09 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FSF responds to Oracle v. Google & the threat of software patents - http://bit.ly/aUJXOK "Oracle was previously opposed to software patents"Sep 09 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK.gov finally pulls plug on National Programme for IT - http://bit.ly/9B0awT about time, too #nhsSep 09 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IDG's 'open source' blog does a lot of damage today, still pushing people to remove "Free" from FOSS, welcome Microsoft, reject Oracle...Sep 09 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 24.15 KBSep 09 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK.gov finally pulls plug on National Programme for IT • The Register .::. Size~: 26.01 KBSep 09 13:46
oiaohmHistory of open source tells that the idea of core locking does not work.Sep 09 13:49
oiaohmSooner or latter someone forks and battles.Sep 09 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Tried and true tactics for kick-starting #innovation http://bit.ly/amb4nsSep 09 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Imagine what if Debian sold a copy for $0.01 and then sold/donated in mass quantities, counting that as copies 'sold' (like Microsoft) #spinSep 09 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tried and True Tactics for Kick-starting Innovation | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.6 KBSep 09 13:51
schestowitz[13:42] <oiaohm> Lot of Microsoft actions have taken great feature away from open source.Sep 09 13:53
schestowitzNot just FOSSSep 09 13:53
schestowitzNetscape for example was proprietary when first attacked by Microsoft, other products tooSep 09 13:53
MinceRDRI was proprietary tooSep 09 13:57
MinceRand so was WordPerfectSep 09 13:57
schestowitz"would you like a guest post on the 2%? I think it is 2%, we need to know what to do about this. i'll ask erik zachte about WMF stats too."Sep 09 13:59
schestowitzDavid wants this, I guess... so I've agreed ("that would be excellent, thanks")Sep 09 14:00
MinceREnsemble Studios was proprietary tooSep 09 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @opensourceway why even use the term #innovation at all? It became almost synonymous with patents (lawyers, monopoly); userused termSep 09 14:01
MinceRit should be used. correctly.Sep 09 14:02
MinceRinventing and developing something truly new and useful is innovationSep 09 14:02
MinceRpatenting the invention of someone else isn'tSep 09 14:02
MinceRpatenting something trivial isn't innovation eitherSep 09 14:02
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schestowitz"Wow. I hope it's a joke b/c otherwise it's a really shitty article. I'm sure Apple'd be surprised to learn iOS uses Linux. :-p" http://identi.ca/conversation/49222508#notice-49628745Sep 09 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.97 KBSep 09 14:08
schestowitzMinceR: ayeSep 09 14:09
MinceRlol, "line-ooks"Sep 09 14:10
MinceR"flavors" instead of distributionmsSep 09 14:10
MinceRs/nm/n/Sep 09 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] So what do you guys think about Google Instant search?Sep 09 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] Annabel Park's (founder, Coffee Party) film 9500 Liberty opens this weekend: http://bit.ly/3GqiT5Sep 09 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Fabrics created from my photographs will be on display at San Jose Museum of Quilts & Textiles: http://bit.ly/9sfGLwSep 09 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9500 Liberty | a documentary on America's explosive battle over immigration policy .::. Size~: 7.52 KBSep 09 14:16
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schestowitzMinceR: iOS was almost Linux basedSep 09 14:26
schestowitzJobs said noSep 09 14:26
schestowitzIt was GPL, like GCCSep 09 14:26
MinceRalong with OSX, based on mkLinux, right?Sep 09 14:28
schestowitzMinceR: Red Hat's doesn't talk about innovation in the eng sense: http://opensource.com/business/10/8/tried-and-true-tactics-kick-starting-innovationSep 09 14:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tried and True Tactics for Kick-starting Innovation | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.62 KBSep 09 14:28
schestowitzIt reads like marketingSep 09 14:28
schestowitzOS X is based on Mongol Hordes philosophySep 09 14:29
schestowitzConquers, rape, assimilateSep 09 14:29
schestowitzhttp://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/education/france/100908/italian-school-lunches-go-organic-low-cost-localSep 09 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian school lunches go organic, low-cost, local | GlobalPost .::. Size~: 54.66 KBSep 09 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Mockingbird by Eminem from EncoreSep 09 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Perfidious Albania - http://bit.ly/bQONit why I won't be speaking at a conference in a country I would love to visit #albania #freeswSep 09 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Perfidious Albania .::. Size~: 67.72 KBSep 09 14:41
schestowitzhttp://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2010/09/the-urgent-need-for-innovation-in-job-creation.htmlSep 09 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Urgent Need for Innovation in Job Creation .::. Size~: 43.75 KBSep 09 14:42
schestowitzIrving... maybe IBM can patent that tooSep 09 14:42
schestowitzLike job offoshoringSep 09 14:42
schestowitzHe defends software patents BTWSep 09 14:42
schestowitzWeird...Sep 09 14:44
schestowitzWhy does Glyn rant about flights in "Open,,," blog?Sep 09 14:44
schestowitz"And thus it was, yesterday, just a few days before the conference this weekend, with my presentation - complete with witty segue - all ready to go, that I heard from the organisers that despite several emails assuring me to the contrary, they didn't have any money for my travel, and so wouldn't be paying for my flight tomorrow evening."Sep 09 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Kitni Haseen Zindagi by Lucky Ali from AksSep 09 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft to embrace and extend HTML 5? • The Register http://bit.ly/c8dG3USep 09 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | UNR - Ubuntu Netbook Revisited http://bit.ly/corUQ6Sep 09 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Sony celebrates PlayStation's 15-year anniversary http://ur1.ca/1kdniSep 09 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Big update on upcoming #FUDCon Tempe event, including lodging info: http://2tu.us/2n1w !fedora !fossSep 09 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] ♺ @stickster Big update on upcoming #FUDCon Tempe event, including lodging info: http://2tu.us/2n1wSep 09 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @bob_sutor @estherschindler @hankwilliams: Apple blinks. Flash tools now allowed. http://bit.ly/9VHvyp via @edbottSep 09 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why does everything suck?: Apple Blinks. Flash Tools Now Allowed .::. Size~: 67.45 KBSep 09 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Still getting used Tab Candy...or what ever it's called nowadays! !firefoxSep 09 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fontana there's a little Schadenfreude, certainly...Sep 09 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @NeelieKroesEU: help #EU unleash the power of public sector information (#PSI). more info here http://ow.ly/2BJHtSep 09 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I rehearing the Bilski episode of !sflc pc and thinking @bkuhn, @kaz, what happens if most of the rest of the world rejects patents 1 by 1?Sep 09 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I ask cos, starting with Costa Rica & NZ, this is actually happening. Can US patents survive international rejection @bkuhn, @kaz? !sflc !loSep 09 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Obviously I mean Software patents, @bkuhn, @kaz !sflc !loSep 09 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oslo conference and meeting done. Let's grab some food and finally back to MUC tmrw!Sep 09 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HPC meets cloud computing with Dell's new server (Network World) http://bit.ly/9Cos4CSep 09 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Twitter suggests I follow Eminem and Lady Gaga. They don't know me as well as they thought.Sep 09 16:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HPC meets cloud computing with Dell's new server .::. Size~: 103.04 KBSep 09 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/rssSep 09 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.17 KBSep 09 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/9/2010: PlayStation 3 Shuts Again http://techrights.org/2010/09/09/playstation-3-shuts-again/Sep 09 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 9/9/2010: PlayStation 3 Shuts Again | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.84 KBSep 09 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What would be the best video format/codex to save vacation home video in !Linux !Fedora !ffmpeg !GNU best quality lowest filesize?Sep 09 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Coming back from Eric Shmidt's talk at @sciencespo where he announced a new #Google R&D center in Paris and a cultural institute!Sep 09 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents http://lwn.net/Articles/404260/rssSep 09 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @qtbynokia: BOOKMARKED: YouTube - Cybercom evaluates !Qt Quick http://ht.ly/18URr3Sep 09 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Eric Schmidt at @sciences po http://is.gd/f2Ghq (youtube)Sep 09 17:21
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/24001953793 "you're a scientist. we have a pile of evidence that says 1-2%, no actual evidence that says 10%. burden of proof is on who?"Sep 09 17:24
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schestowitzI didn't say 10%. http://digg.com/news/story/GNU_Linux_Desktop_Market_Share_is_4_Gartner/20080811004541:7925786Sep 09 17:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digg - GNU/Linux Desktop Market Share is 4% -- Gartner .::. Size~: 23.61 KBSep 09 17:25
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schestowitz"not liking a number - and I don't like it either - does not make it false. " http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/24001984515Sep 09 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz not liking a  ... .::. Size~: 8.17 KBSep 09 17:34
schestowitzIt's not about like/don't like; it does not agree with many past observations. Consider how search 'share' is US-based.Sep 09 17:35
schestowitzHi, neighborleeSep 09 17:35
schestowitz"your 4% point got lost in 140 chrs, I don't understand you" http://twitter.com/davidgerard/statuses/24002065470Sep 09 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / davidgerard: @schestowitz your 4% point ... .::. Size~: 8.14 KBSep 09 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] checking what has changed in Digg since the new version went live, maybe they improve itSep 09 17:36
schestowitzre 4%, the thing is, many meters are US-oriented (e.g. those that quadruple Bong's share); US is 4% of world's population.Sep 09 17:36
neighborleehihoSep 09 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Matt Cohler Leads Funding for Scientist Social Network - http://bit.ly/dkWLXw making the scientific process "more open and shared" #scienceSep 09 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian is now comparing Eben Moglen to Castro, who murdered peopleSep 09 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Man, Once I saw a lecture of Dr. Moglen. The guy ROCKS. I can only say good things about him. Puzzles me this "castro" stuffSep 09 17:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Matt Cohler Leads Funding for Scientist Social Network « .::. Size~: 54.94 KBSep 09 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets [LWN.net]: http://ur1.ca/1kfl5 [trying Digg]Sep 09 17:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digg - Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 14.94 KBSep 09 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] $hit, the virthost of my Internet machine decided to go astray just today, so no email, no web, no nothing :-/ Going home till fixed #WTFSep 09 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @qtbynokia Qt Labs Blog - A second spring of text rasterization http://ht.ly/18W1xuSep 09 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Going gaga over Tibet - http://bit.ly/dAvXnG pusillanimity personified #tibet #china #westSep 09 17:56
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banyan: Going gaga over Tibet | The Economist .::. Size~: 43.62 KBSep 09 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trying to integrate with Digg.... <!--6f1b3f8593f34e68bebc8aa467feb20c-->Sep 09 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I wonder if some people start and/or work for companies primarily to avoid taking personal responsibility for anything. Seems quite common.Sep 09 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free thinking - http://bit.ly/cTpsEW "Why expensive consultancy firms are giving away more research" everyone's doing itSep 09 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Koch-funded oil rally calls global warming a “hoax” - http://bit.ly/bSX4Nf what do these people see in the mirror? #climatechangeSep 09 18:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Consultancy firms: Free thinking | The Economist .::. Size~: 49.22 KBSep 09 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android Now at 80,000 Market Apps - http://bit.ly/a5ld83 heading to the big 100K #androidSep 09 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACLU sues DHS over border laptop searches http://ur1.ca/1kfru #privacySep 09 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Lou Reed is now an official Asshole! http://tiny.cc/t3h26Sep 09 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] My introduction to open source by @artseavey | http://bit.ly/9VIYJ9 #community #opengov #co-productionSep 09 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More consequences of climate change apparent http://ur1.ca/1kfvvSep 09 18:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My introduction to open source | opensource.com .::. Size~: 40.39 KBSep 09 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh he did some nice things too (Lou)Sep 09 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Well, now the whole world knows he is a selfish, stupid, up-his-own-arse dickhead.Sep 09 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/404261/rssSep 09 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Backports now an official Debian repository http://ur1.ca/1kfxm !debian !gnu !linuxSep 09 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Thursday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.57 KBSep 09 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Yeah, saw that. Great stuff! !debian #backports #officialSep 09 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @schestowitz Backports now an official Debian repository http://ur1.ca/1kfxm !debian !gnu !linuxSep 09 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets http://ping.fm/LQ5fLSep 09 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] How Ubuntu is Made (LinuxPlanet) http://lwn.net/Articles/404317/rssSep 09 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Android Market Growing Exponentially – Now with more than 80,000 apps http://ping.fm/gIfaPSep 09 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh what's saddest to me is that Perfect Day -- as performed by "Various Artists" with garden images-- was about harmony. Susan then..Sep 09 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Canonical Design Blog: Charactersets http://ping.fm/udW1KSep 09 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets http://goo.gl/0MyQ !linuxSep 09 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Inkscape: Google Summer of Code 2010 is over http://ping.fm/R8KswSep 09 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] We all should thank @mcgrof even though it's #Broadcom who released drivers today. @mcgrof has been *the* advocate for upstream wireless.Sep 09 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Inequality, Choices, and Hitting a Wall - Linux Magazine Online http://ow.ly/2BSoaSep 09 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Zentyal installation guide — LinuxBSDos.com http://ow.ly/2BSrBSep 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] FSF responds to Oracle v. Google and the threat of software patents http://ping.fm/rRzz6Sep 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Market Growing Exponentially – Now with more than 80,000 apps http://ur1.ca/1kg2g via @silnerSep 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can Debian achieve world domination without being on Facebook? http://ping.fm/tumN1Sep 09 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Do Users Care Much About Mobile Operating Systems? - TMCnet http://ping.fm/NiFX6Sep 09 18:46
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schestowitzThe new Digg doesn't look that bad to me.Sep 09 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Imparted to frustrated SupaWife that housebreaking is more than a couple days of effort. Didn't realize she hadn't done it before!Sep 09 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner If they pull their fingers out yes. Come on !debian fellas, do what !ubuntu is doing and get the word out! facebook or not.Sep 09 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some years ago Digg frustrated me, but now that I'm seeing the new version of the site I rethink it all. Not sure why people rant _now_...Sep 09 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla Labs Launches Gaming Initiative http://ur1.ca/1kg8p With the Web standards motive. Great stuff.Sep 09 19:06
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neighborleeschestowitz: between relgion and asteroids..are we doomed ? lolSep 09 19:14
neighborleeschestowitz: I presume you get my drift as relates to current events ;)Sep 09 19:14
neighborleeof course im making tongue-n-cheek analogy, but regardless its relevant for todays world ;)Sep 09 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Digg made a lot of data vanish, such as statistics for users. Netscape made the same mistakes for 'simplicity'.Sep 09 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/rssSep 09 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @zack new [Debian] blog post « yes we can: achieve world domination w/o endorsing #facebook » http://ur1.ca/1kf7qSep 09 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Headline sounds like a gang of shrimp are going about killing aliens in the UK, sounds like an anti-imigration agenda http://bbc.in/dfxJsxSep 09 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I've a list of things I wish !orgmode would do for me, I just haven't had time to research. It appears my research should be "ask @cwebber".Sep 09 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: yes we can .::. Size~: 8.83 KBSep 09 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Alien 'killer' shrimp found in UK .::. Size~: 49.44 KBSep 09 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] ICC postings questioned http://ur1.ca/1kggcSep 09 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AKA 'Choose your own, as long as it's Windows' I sense the MS vultures circling http://bbc.in/9nYt4dSep 09 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - NHS IT costs to be cut by £700m .::. Size~: 48.28 KBSep 09 19:26
schestowitzOdd. LXer is now posting links to DOT NOT articles. http://www.fiercecontentmanagement.com/story/one-one-shaun-walker-dotnetnuke/2010-09-07Sep 09 19:27
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schestowitz[19:14] <neighborlee> schestowitz: I presume you get my drift as relates to current events ;)Sep 09 19:27
schestowitzneighborlee: asteroids of large scale will hit us one daySep 09 19:28
schestowitzBut I reckon human civilisation will screw itself long before thatSep 09 19:28
schestowitz[19:15] <neighborlee> of course im making tongue-n-cheek analogy, but regardless its relevant for todays world ;)Sep 09 19:28
schestowitzIn many areas religions stifles science, which we need to avoid Armageddon is move to an adjacent planetSep 09 19:29
schestowitzneighborlee: apropos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIMifWU5ucUSep 09 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn @zack !joindiaspora source available tomorrow, let's see if ti lives up to the hype, and let's see if !debian takes advantage of itSep 09 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @richslxh, While I hope @joindiaspora does become a FLOSS project, they are already falling into trap @zack warns of using github to host.Sep 09 19:31
schestowitzThistleWeb: *LOL* at shrimp articleSep 09 19:33
schestowitzWhat does the BBC think it is with this headline, Daily Mail?Sep 09 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb AKA 'Choose your own, as long as it's Windows' I sense the MS vultures circling http://bbc.in/9nYt4dSep 09 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - NHS IT costs to be cut by £700m .::. Size~: 48.4 KBSep 09 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @StopActaNow We ask everybody to read: RT @marvin_ammori RT @Lessig on institutional corruption and lobbyists http://www.ur1.ca/1kgk2Sep 09 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] This looks very cool: !freedombox !debian !ubuntu http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBoxSep 09 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pregnant Traveler: TSA Screeners Bullied Me Into Full-Body Scan - http://bit.ly/baPAbI unbelievable #bullying #securitytheatreSep 09 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn Check this out: !freedombox !debian Could maybe grow to be an alternative?Sep 09 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz Sounds like your NHS is doing something that was happening hear a few years back... as i recall there was an open source...Sep 09 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Key to a Successful !Linux Conversion http://ur1.ca/1kgn6 "People are resistant to change."Sep 09 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz ... developer with a program I think was called Oscar. Complaining no consideration from government but were doing it anywaySep 09 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] NetApp and Oracle settle http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Data-Storage/NetApp-Oracle-Settle-Old-Patent-Litigation-Over-ZFS-121130/ /via @timbraySep 09 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] glynmoody Crookes vs p2pnet fund raiser - http://bit.ly/9TNaR4 some help needed to keep Canada sane #links #libel #canadaSep 09 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Apple relents on Flash-derived #iPhone, #iPad apps http://eff.org/r.q9KSep 09 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NetApp, Oracle Settle Old Patent Litigation Over ZFS - Data Storage from eWeek .::. Size~: 103.78 KBSep 09 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz The key is New OS sweeping the nation. Nasa, Banks and Google use it. Make it trendy some how. Do not use words Free or LinuxSep 09 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @shapado Broadcom releases free open wifi drivers! http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/ !fsf !gnu !linux !ubuntuSep 09 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @eff #Apple relents on Flash-derived #iPhone, #iPad apps http://eff.org/r.q9KSep 09 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Other social projects: http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/ExampleProjects#SocialSep 09 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Righthaven: saving the newspaper industry, one lawsuit at a time http://eff.org/r.1qMSep 09 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] This Broadcom news is mega-exciting for those of us whose laptops include bcm43xx wifi. http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/Sep 09 20:11
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sebsebsebHiSep 09 20:14
schestowitzHi, sebsebsebSep 09 20:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: hiSep 09 20:14
schestowitz Sep 09 20:14
sebsebseb Sep 09 20:14
sebsebsebschestowitz:Sep 09 20:14
schestowitz:-xSep 09 20:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: So I download and burn the ISO for 10.10 netbook edition earlier,  and this time unilke with the alphas, actsualley burn the ISO contents to CDSep 09 20:20
sebsebsebhoweverSep 09 20:20
sebsebsebwell I had already read that it doesn't exactly work with Nivida cards, and yepSep 09 20:20
sebsebsebeven tried on my brothers old lap top with broken monitor,  since that has ATI card, but didn't get far there eitherSep 09 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Democratic dictatorship? http://ur1.ca/1kh25Sep 09 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Key to a Successful GNU/Linux Conversion http://is.gd/f2UE5 #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #freesoftwareSep 09 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New International @RuberyBookAward taking submissions 1st prize incl. read by top lit agent (open 2 !selfpub) http://www.ur1.ca/1kh2t !WriteSep 09 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ionutbiru: RT @lwnnet Broadcom releases an open-source driver for its wireless chipsets http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/rssSep 09 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Android Market Growing Exponentially – Now with more than 80,000 apps http://ur1.ca/1kg2g via @silnerSep 09 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Is GNU/Linux market share 8x larger than most people think? http://is.gd/f2VeO #gnu #linux #freesoftware #microsoft #windowsSep 09 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Arch Linux. What else? !archlinuxSep 09 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Do Open Educational Resources Increase Efficiency? - http://goo.gl/00aQ #OERSep 09 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Linux market share is 8x larger than most people think? .::. Size~: 59.9 KBSep 09 20:37
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neighborleeschestowitz: every era has its own tea party movement I suppose , just as nutty then as now (  from what i've seen of their movement )Sep 09 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] £445 for guitarist's leather-bound, silk-wrapped and autographed 512-page memoir - http://bit.ly/aUwtNn ah, analogue scarcity #booksSep 09 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pino looks nice !Identi.caSep 09 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Jimmy Page's autobiography: £445 is a whole lotta money to pay | Music | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 84.42 KBSep 09 20:41
neighborleehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxff0k_TEzI&feature=related < LOL, I love this one..my friend is like this alot ( referring to his descript of dawkins) and Ive numerous times reminded him its not 'effective' ;()Sep 09 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] !gnu that's interesting. http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/09/debunking-the-1-myth.htmlSep 09 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Goebbels n-a murit: PDL a clocit legea de lichidare a presei http://is.gd/f2W6N #romania #politicsSep 09 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Kubuntu 10.04 Trinity "Lucid Lynx" (Idea by Candid of Linux Today) http://ur1.ca/1khba !kde is just amazingSep 09 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] DHS audit finds serious vulnerabilities in US-CERT security (GCN) http://bit.ly/90K0ubSep 09 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] OUTSTANDING: #Cantacuzino #Castle in #Bușteni, #Romania (recently opened for tourists, undergoing careful restoration) http://is.gd/f2X2mSep 09 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] REMARCABIL: Castelul #Cantacuzino din #Bușteni (recent deschis vizitării, în curs de restaurare) http://is.gd/f2XmN #romaniaSep 09 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Cool. #Google's instant search also works in #Konqueror.Sep 09 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Experiment: I've Got My Editor Using Linux http://ur1.ca/1khhn Nothing to be afraid of anymoreSep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn speaking of the just-Freed Broadcom drivers, do they require non-Free blobs?Sep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OS Turf Wars Move to Mobile http://ur1.ca/1khig That's where !Linux leaps ahead of the packSep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @lxoliva @bkuhn speaking of the just-Freed Broadcom drivers, do they require non-Free blobs?Sep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @tieguy For all that GPL 3 is imperfect, re-reading GPL 2 after looking at GPL v3 for long periods really drives home what a big impr ...Sep 09 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Know why !identica is better than !linux forums? I can block you, you can block me, and life goes on. Lovely Jubbly :-) Bye bye #spam #twatsSep 09 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn We all should thank @mcgrof even though it's #Broadcom who released drivers today. @mcgrof has been *the* advocate for upstrea ...Sep 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to Oxidize KDE 3.5 http://ur1.ca/1khlr "theming of !KDE 3.5 to look like KDE 4 looks pretty convincing to the untrained eye"Sep 09 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Microstock Agency: How Stock Photo Agency YayMicro.com was Created Using Only Open Source Technology http://ur1.ca/1khny #centosSep 09 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Saber Kushour may not be so innocent http://ur1.ca/1khorSep 09 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !KDE 4.5 Desktop Activities Bring New Meaning to Organization http://ur1.ca/1khp0 this puts KDE ahead of OS X, Vista7Sep 09 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] New Advice on Character Encodings for HTML and CSS Authors http://ow.ly/18WeGuSep 09 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle GoldenGate Installation, Part 1 | The Pythian Blog http://bit.ly/b2Y8a3Sep 09 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb yes, pino is used by many in identica. I choose kdemicroblogSep 09 21:31
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schestowitzneighborlee: yes, Tyson is GREATSep 09 21:32
schestowitzAlso rather polite compared to Christopher and RichardSep 09 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Lol! That's why he now has the new nickname "No-Dent Schestowitz" ROFL! :-DSep 09 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @lnxwalt140 Trying to wrap my head around Tcl. Its command arg0 arg1 arg2 ... syntax seems simple, but it just doesn't feel the same.Sep 09 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh where? who?Sep 09 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @etu Awesome news! Open Source Broadcom drivers! http://bit.ly/dxO6qB !linux !gentooSep 09 21:41
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schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/node/9421Sep 09 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Do Open Educational Resources Increase Efficiency? - http://goo.gl/00aQ #OERSep 09 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Sorry "no-dent"? What's the context? It's that kdemicroblog single-post app again ha ha! :-) <---context link here--->Sep 09 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh mobile Linux devices = more drivers :-)Sep 09 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: #Apple relents on Flash-derived #iPhone, #iPad apps http://eff.org/r.q9KSep 09 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh I checked again around kdemicroblog to see if it can chain replies, but it can't (yet)Sep 09 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Yes. I feel a good !linux year a comin' :-) What with !ubuntu !android #broadcom and Windows continual failures.Sep 09 21:51
schestowitzSutor still on his Mac rallies .... :-(Sep 09 21:52
schestowitzhttp://www.sutor.com/c/2010/09/math-apps-and-updated-ios-developer-pla/?Sep 09 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh it's just not being called "Linux", but that's OKSep 09 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kudos to the !FSF for a great formal response to ObstacleSep 09 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RD @seeds: WebOS 2.0 pictures leaked http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/webos-2-0-pictures-leaked/#6Sep 09 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on his latest two posts, Sutor got addicted to Macs... http://ur1.ca/1khxx http://ur1.ca/1khxx #walkthewalk #ibmSep 09 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @sramji Rackspace strikes a blow for religious tolerance, de-provisions "Burn a Koran Day" site. http://bit.ly/d7Q9OuSep 09 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz So you shall continue to be known as "No-Dent Schestowitz". Only kidding mate, just a bit of fun :-)Sep 09 21:56
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schestowitzhttp://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2010/sep/6/acta-making-difference/Sep 09 22:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Broadcom wireless finally free (official notice): http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418 !fsf !linux !crunchbangSep 09 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. The second among the Sutor posts is this: http://ur1.ca/1khyx he likes GNU Linux too, should write about it more as Linux VP...?Sep 09 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Why not post from a browser. Is kdemicroblog really worth all this confusion?Sep 09 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana bad choice/decision; they put superstition before freedom of speech. I don't endorse the zealots there, but free speech...?Sep 09 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "Someday the world will need a hero, and you might be all we have. Be ready." #lol !qSep 09 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh I use a cookie-less browser, Firefox a few hours/daySep 09 22:06
schestowitzhttp://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/09/internet-cafe-lets-police-browse-your-web-history.htmlSep 09 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Running software update on my desktop and on my phone. :)Sep 09 22:11
FurnaceBoyw00tSep 09 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♺ @NewsHour Florida minister is canceling plan to burn Qurans on 9/11, heeding an int'l outcry from religious & political leadersSep 09 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana that's nice!Sep 09 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @fontana ♺ @NewsHour Florida minister is canceling plan to burn Qurans on 9/11, heeding an int'l outcry from religious & political ...Sep 09 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Digg's technology section is all Apple, Apple... http://digg.com/news/technology predictable, let's reintroduce some Linux and Free softwareSep 09 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last chance to get XP http://ur1.ca/1ki5c #vista7 won't run on weak hardware, so this is a blessing to !gnu !linuxSep 09 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Downloading Linux Mint Debian Edition...love that it's a rolling distro! :DSep 09 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Castro criticizes antisemitism http://ur1.ca/1ki6nSep 09 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Scott Moser: running Ubuntu on an Amazon "micro" instance http://goo.gl/2l7h !ubuntucloudSep 09 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #Broadcom releasing fully open-source wifi driver http://goo.gl/U6fZSep 09 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Open Ended: #Broadcom swims upstream, tackles Linux WiFi woes with new open drivers http://goo.gl/cdN3Sep 09 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: !FSF Lashes Out at #Oracle for its Patent Lawsuit Against Google #Android http://goo.gl/hovfSep 09 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Got my !FSFE card PIN. Thanks!Sep 09 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !linux !mint is receiving huge amounts of kudos for going true !debian http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1527 Nice work mint fellas! ;-)Sep 09 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @toros !fsf "defending" !google? Who'da thunk it ^ ^Sep 09 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] BROADCOM OPEN SOURCES WIRELESS DRIVERS http://ur1.ca/1khs3Sep 09 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Firefox 4 Beta 5 looks and integrates better with !ubuntu 10.10 beta than !firefox 3.6 does.Sep 09 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] “Top 10 Essential HTML 5 Tutorials For Web Designers”: http://savedelete.com/essential-best-html5-tutorials.htmlSep 09 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @richslxh @reality Guess so. Just surprised me after all the !fsf'ers constantly bleeting at !google. I wish people would get some co ...Sep 09 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @richslxh, I think it's better the way !fsf does it: consistently focus on what actions are good/bad for software freedom, not the actors.Sep 09 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Trying out the "new" Digg. Still buggy, won't allow import of rss feed, verification #fail, Bug report page broke. *sigh*Sep 09 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @richslxh @eximious I didn't read any of it, nor will I. But thanks for the link. I was referring to !identica using !fsf followers a ...Sep 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn Don't get me wrong, they do good. But if two people you dislike start fighting, stay out of it. Why defend !google now?Sep 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/9/2010: Debian-based Linux Mint in Review, Android Passes 80,000 Apps http://ur1.ca/1kifm !techrightsSep 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @richslxh, As you admitted to @eximious, you didn't read the article, so you incorrectly assume it merely defends Google. #Get_Facts_FirstSep 09 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Now that's interesting, you can choose a regular Gnome session from the UNR session menu at login, a bug which switched it for me was usefulSep 09 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @lxoliva, I am not sure anyone knows for sure yet if new #Broadcom !FaiF drivers need proprietary blobs. But Atheros' have FaiF firmware. :)Sep 09 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn No, two people fighting, you attack one of them, you are automatically defending the other. That's common sense.Sep 09 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh yes, it's a big win for Debian in a way, but antithetical to the Debian goal (same with the new Facek00k page)Sep 09 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh @toros defending Java, not GoogleSep 09 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @evan it's about Java, not GoogleSep 09 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @richslxh, that doesn't make any sense at all, common or otherwise. Why don't you read the article & comment on its contents instead?Sep 09 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh @bkuhn yes, better not to pick sides, but the issue is Java vs #swpats , not Java vs DalvikSep 09 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn Can't be bothered. Any way i'm watching a video of a dancing dog. It's more fun ;-)Sep 09 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn The tags on your profile tell me you are an über-fsf-freedom-fighter, and i'm just not in the mood for that stuff tonight. Sorry :(Sep 09 23:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: So a girl I sort of knew in person, now young lady, wants to buy a Macbook Pro, I did mention Linux to her, but nah she wants a Mac, and already has an IphoneSep 09 23:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: I suppouse being more realistic for this person, a Mac would be better reallySep 09 23:18
schestowitzNot reallySep 09 23:18
schestowitzUnless she needs another purseSep 09 23:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: Linux can have hardware issues and software issuesSep 09 23:18
schestowitzFashion statement/statusSep 09 23:18
sebsebsebanother purse?Sep 09 23:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: well this girl is a chav type girl, it seemsSep 09 23:19
sebsebsebor something like thatSep 09 23:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: it seems that she also goes out quite a lot at the momentSep 09 23:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: no, Linux works OK. Just choose the right laptopSep 09 23:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah, but well she says she likes AppleSep 09 23:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: Linux works OUT too ;)Sep 09 23:19
sebsebseband I know she isn't really into computersSep 09 23:19
sebsebseband already has her Iphone and yeahSep 09 23:19
neighborleeschestowitz: quiteSep 09 23:19
schestowitzWell, Brits...Sep 09 23:19
schestowitzThey have money to blow on AppleSep 09 23:19
schestowitz90% of the world does notSep 09 23:20
cubevectorthey do?Sep 09 23:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: well she is saving  upSep 09 23:20
sebsebsebit seemsSep 09 23:20
schestowitzNoSep 09 23:20
schestowitzIt seems not :-)Sep 09 23:20
sebsebsebBritish girls,  seems a lot of not that nice ones, sadly :(Sep 09 23:20
cubevectorI'm hearing that the Irish economy is flatSep 09 23:20
schestowitzhypePhone on which network?Sep 09 23:20
schestowitzShe blows the cashSep 09 23:20
cubevectorah, young kids :)Sep 09 23:20
cubevectorwhen you get older, you save moreSep 09 23:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: this particular girl, uhmmm  well we never exactly friends, just knew each other a bit, and then stayed in touch a bit here and there onlineSep 09 23:21
schestowitzFor kid's college :-)Sep 09 23:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: and she woudn't just meet me either, even though she lived really clloseSep 09 23:21
sebsebseband yeah she  still lives around hereSep 09 23:21
schestowitzDo a deal with her, sebsebsebSep 09 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh dancing dog? Share!Sep 09 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] "I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." --Thomas EdisonSep 09 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] I'd love it if @dixieva made the frequent "relief" trips outside actually, um, productive. Already too gorgeous out to return to work.Sep 09 23:21
sebsebseba deal?Sep 09 23:21
schestowitzIf her Linux is hard, you come to help her :)Sep 09 23:21
schestowitzGood for her and for you tooSep 09 23:22
cubevectorLinux isn't hard nowSep 09 23:22
cubevectorit was hard in 1994Sep 09 23:22
sebsebsebHow to promote Linux to someone like that,  I tried just now on Facebook IM, and I don't think I was doing it rightSep 09 23:22
cubevectorLinux == mainstream, at least for opensuse or Fedora or UbuntuSep 09 23:23
sebsebseboh she gone off or whateverSep 09 23:23
sebsebsebLinux distros aren't main streame thoughSep 09 23:23
sebsebsebMicrosoft and Apple areSep 09 23:23
schestowitzWhat does that mean?Sep 09 23:24
cubevectorthey are now, look around...Sep 09 23:24
cubevectorHDTV Linux? YesSep 09 23:24
sebsebsebanyway I guess she probably still doesn't fully like me, just is a  little bit more mature nowSep 09 23:24
schestowitzsebsebseb: clicheSep 09 23:24
cubevectorRouter Linux? YesSep 09 23:24
cubevectorPhone Linux? YesSep 09 23:24
schestowitzsebsebseb: tell her to get LinuxSep 09 23:24
cubevectorPDA Linux? Sometimes, so yes alsoSep 09 23:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah I kind of didSep 09 23:24
sebsebsebwell suggested itSep 09 23:24
schestowitzTell her if she need a scan you can fask at disk twice a daySep 09 23:25
schestowitz*fsck her diskSep 09 23:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: maybe I should tell her about Mac virsuesSep 09 23:25
sebsebseband suchSep 09 23:25
sebsebsebI mean there are some now I thinkSep 09 23:25
sebsebsebthat would work on OS XSep 09 23:25
schestowitzShow her RMS *LOL*Sep 09 23:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: or maybe I should start explaining next time, about vender lock in and software freedomSep 09 23:25
schestowitzSHe'll be charmed by freedomSep 09 23:25
sebsebseband how legally she won't be able to upgrade OS X for freeSep 09 23:25
cubevectorwell if someone asks you what you think, you should tell the truthSep 09 23:26
schestowitzNot Jobs'"freedom from pr0n"Sep 09 23:26
cubevectormention all the advantages and disadvantagesSep 09 23:26
sebsebsebcubevector: she didn't ask me computer stuff, just told me basically that she wanted a MacSep 09 23:26
schestowitzMaybe she parrots someoneSep 09 23:26
schestowitzMarketing..Sep 09 23:26
schestowitzTell her to get friedSep 09 23:26
cubevectorAmiga is the best btwSep 09 23:26
schestowitzTell her to get frieSep 09 23:26
schestowitzTell her to get friesSep 09 23:26
schestowitzOopsSep 09 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 "I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." --Thomas Edison > Edison = social failure, success to greedSep 09 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched Curse of the Ring imdb.com/title/tt0387541/ ★★☆☆☆ unsurprisingly terrible, avoid if you canSep 09 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @schestowitz Much more fun than !fsf politics http://logicalpoint.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/this-is-why-we-dont-eat-dogs/Sep 09 23:26
schestowitzBad typoSep 09 23:26
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cubevectorfries? :)Sep 09 23:26
cubevectorwith gravySep 09 23:27
schestowitzTell her big Mac gives coronary diseaseSep 09 23:27
sebsebsebyeah I guess I should do advantages and disadvantages for both, Linux and Mac OS XSep 09 23:27
cubevectorjust say what you really thinkSep 09 23:27
sebsebsebthing is if I talk computer stuff online to this person,  I think it will annoy her a bitSep 09 23:27
cubevectorMy opinion: Mac is a waste of moneySep 09 23:27
schestowitzShow exploding MacsSep 09 23:28
sebsebsebanyway Linux distros work well with Iphone?Sep 09 23:28
sebsebseband also since she has an Iphone well she pretty much has OS X already anyway?Sep 09 23:28
sebsebsebapparently with OS X can't even change the theme of the OSSep 09 23:29
cubevectorthere's no way I can recommend Mac anythingSep 09 23:29
sebsebsebcubevector:  I did the  Mac OS X is basically,  Free BSD with lip stick put on it, and sold to th consumer, comment, but that probably made me look stupid,  in this caseSep 09 23:30
cubevectorhow much does Iphone cost?Sep 09 23:30
*sebsebseb in a way would like to have some sort of in person friendship with this girl, even though she isn't really my type o girl or whateverSep 09 23:31
sebsebsebso yeah making my self look to much like a geekSep 09 23:31
sebsebsebprobably won't help much with thatSep 09 23:31
cubevectorwhat does that mean, geek?Sep 09 23:31
cubevectoris that an insult?Sep 09 23:31
sebsebsebcomputer geekSep 09 23:31
sebsebsebmost computer users don't really care about computersSep 09 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We're a featured project over at Transifex, where you can help translate our license chooser and deeds! http://www.transifex.net/Sep 09 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I've just visited 0x20 in Ghent. Awesome hackerspace and #awesome people! Next Friday #iRail meetup there.Sep 09 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @richslxh melaughsSep 09 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Just drank my first @ClubMateBelgium and it's pretty good! I don't understand how awake I suddenly am #niceSep 09 23:31
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sebsebsebthey just want them to work,  consumer deviceSep 09 23:31
sebsebseband thats the problemSep 09 23:31
sebsebseband the seeing the computer as nothing more than a tool, thats also a problemSep 09 23:32
cubevectorit seems to be a negative connotationsSep 09 23:32
sebsebsebwhat does?Sep 09 23:32
cubevectorthe word geekSep 09 23:32
sebsebsebwell yes I was uiseing it in a negative waySep 09 23:32
sebsebsebsince the non computer people, might say stuff like that about usSep 09 23:32
sebsebsebor think it about usSep 09 23:32
schestowitzSep 09 23:34
schestowitz[23:30] <cubevector> how much does Iphone cost?Sep 09 23:34
schestowitzLess than $200Sep 09 23:34
neighborleesebsebseb: is that based on a recent poll, and has that been broken up into varying degrees of care ? ;)Sep 09 23:35
schestowitzYou pay several times that for the hype in hypePhoneSep 09 23:35
neighborleeschestowitz: only the v3 I think is that cheap ?Sep 09 23:35
neighborleeie: $99Sep 09 23:35
schestowitzI was talking about productionSep 09 23:35
schestowitzFoxconn and allSep 09 23:35
cubevectorOk, one argument that works well, learn linux and save $$$Sep 09 23:35
schestowitzApple sells the arrogance at a priceSep 09 23:35
cubevectorApple == consumerism^3Sep 09 23:36
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/07/apple-like-lorealSep 09 23:36
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neighborleeyeah but at least  apple more or less guarantees NO virus's ;)Sep 09 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, I am now getting pissed off with über freedom preachers. Worse than a fucking sect. I won't tag the group, but all of you go get a life!Sep 09 23:36
neighborleeso does linux,,but apple market share atm anyway, is 10 times higherSep 09 23:36
schestowitzThey sterilise it?Sep 09 23:36
schestowitzOr virus as in bad Windows proggy?Sep 09 23:37
sebsebsebneighborlee: most people around hereSep 09 23:37
sebsebsebeveryone whoSep 09 23:37
sebsebsebI have known in personSep 09 23:37
sebsebsebpretty muchSep 09 23:37
sebsebsebdon't really care about computers much at all :(Sep 09 23:37
sebsebsebespesailly girlsSep 09 23:37
sebsebseb:(Sep 09 23:37
neighborleeLOLSep 09 23:37
cubevectorI know women programmersSep 09 23:37
schestowitzmy sister is oneSep 09 23:37
neighborleesebsebseb: you can't possibly be serious ;)Sep 09 23:37
sebsebseband theres a joke, if you want a girl friend, don't talk computer to themSep 09 23:38
cubevectorit's a silly sterotype, like when Barbie says "Math is hard"Sep 09 23:38
neighborleelolSep 09 23:38
cubevectorwe're not in the 50's :)Sep 09 23:38
neighborleeexactlySep 09 23:38
sebsebsebneighborlee: I live in a smallish town, so yeah what I  saidSep 09 23:38
neighborleeI dont doubt itSep 09 23:38
sebsebsebneighborlee: plus even the girls who were on that last college course I did, for computer stuff, didn't really like themSep 09 23:38
neighborleepoll proof ?Sep 09 23:39
neighborleeor just your word ;)Sep 09 23:39
*sebsebseb knows computer stuff and thats about it, so yeah this will cause a problem at timesSep 09 23:39
cubevectorwomen use computers a lotSep 09 23:39
cubevectorno reason why they can't use LinuxSep 09 23:39
schestowitzTrueSep 09 23:39
schestowitzGoblin's wife uses LinuxSep 09 23:40
cubevectorMac is just tax for the lazy/stupidSep 09 23:40
sebsebsebcubevector: well not just women, people in general and computers, loads of ignoranceSep 09 23:40
schestowitzMy sister uses LinuxSep 09 23:40
sebsebsebanyway someone who didn't like Linux and Unix, has recnelty diedSep 09 23:40
schestowitzcubevector: and the conceitedSep 09 23:40
sebsebsebin fact a guy whoSep 09 23:40
sebsebsebhad a business, making business apps, using Microsoft stuff, and  one I was going to maybe work for before a few years ago, if they trained meSep 09 23:40
schestowitzsebsebseb: there are dumb guysSep 09 23:40
schestowitzThere's no lack in guys who don't know computersSep 09 23:41
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yg7KL4v1w0Sep 09 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tinyogg/@tinyogg] Thanks to the people who clicked !TinyOgg's #Flattr button 40 times!Sep 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @richslxh Pity, Brett (the author) has written a reasoned and reasonable analysis. And FWIW I'm from OSI :-)Sep 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @webmink Ok i'll read it, i'm sure it's good. I've just a night of fsf zealots over-preaching, and i've had enough for one day. :-)Sep 09 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Is there a religion that demands burning books? Isn't that fascism or communism you're thinking of (both secular ideologies)?Sep 09 23:41
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sebsebsebas harsh as this may sound,  death could be a good thing for Desktop Linux, a very good thing indeedSep 09 23:42
sebsebsebI mean when most of the ignorant older generation that are locked into Windows are deadSep 09 23:42
cubevectorexcuse me....Sep 09 23:42
cubevectorthe older generation never used windows :)Sep 09 23:42
cubevectorwe used pre-windows stuffSep 09 23:42
sebsebsebit seems to me, that its mainly younger people, that are doing Linux distros on their home computers, these daysSep 09 23:42
sebsebsebor at least UbuntuSep 09 23:42
cubevectorgo back to the 60's what do you think they used?Sep 09 23:43
cubevectornothing :)Sep 09 23:43
sebsebsebcubevector: I mean people who started using computers properly in the 90's, and that are middle aged nowSep 09 23:43
cubevectorproperly?Sep 09 23:43
sebsebsebyeah as in, because of a job for exampleSep 09 23:43
cubevectormost of academia used *nixSep 09 23:43
sebsebsebcubevector: maybe so, but loasd of WIndows vender lock inSep 09 23:43
cubevectorok, windows has not even been around that longSep 09 23:44
cubevectorit's an aberrationSep 09 23:44
cubevectorcomputers didn't start with windowsSep 09 23:44
sebsebsebcubevector: inded, butSep 09 23:45
sebsebsebthe 90's is whenSep 09 23:45
sebsebsebWindows gained most of the desktop market shareSep 09 23:45
ThistleWebI dunno, many see their PCs through shop windows, before they go in and buy ;)Sep 09 23:45
cubevectorin the early 90's I saw commodore, Atari, Tandy, and a ton of othersSep 09 23:45
sebsebsebcubevector: sure and then the other computers went bye byeSep 09 23:45
sebsebsebWIndows PC and Mac onlySep 09 23:45
cubevectorthat's true now, not in the 90's thoughSep 09 23:46
sebsebsebwel they started to go bye bye in the late 90'sSep 09 23:46
cubevectorthere's Acorn in the UK tooSep 09 23:46
sebsebsebAcorn started going bye bye from the schools in the late 90'sSep 09 23:46
cubevectorthat is trueSep 09 23:46
cubevectorbut it's not true for the entire decade like you were implyingSep 09 23:46
sebsebsebso much for choiceSep 09 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Cameron Sinclair calls for transparency and openness in Obama's new public works plan, specifically references CC: http://huff.to/9tB8gfSep 09 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @richslxh BTDTGTTS in every colour & size :-)Sep 09 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I hope not, but if someone comes up with one, and e.g. they print the books they then burn, should we stand in the way?Sep 09 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bkuhn I'm going to read the article, I bookmarked it for tomorrow, it's nearly 01:00 here so i'm off to bed. @eximious Thanks for the link.Sep 09 23:46
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sebsebsebnow the choice is basicallySep 09 23:46
sebsebsebI mean the choice is onlySep 09 23:46
sebsebseba PC or a Mac, unless know about computers, and can get something else, from else whereSep 09 23:47
sebsebseband I  am on about the desktop here, not servers and what notSep 09 23:47
sebsebsebso much for choiceSep 09 23:47
cubevectorPower and Sparc and ARM?Sep 09 23:47
cubevectorthree more choicesSep 09 23:47
sebsebsebwhen really the choice is only two now, or at least for the main streamSep 09 23:47
sebsebsebeSep 09 23:47
cubevectorthere's more ARM cpu then anythingSep 09 23:47
cubevectorhere's another choice: FPGA computersSep 09 23:48
cubevectorI think non-x86 cpus are importantSep 09 23:48
cubevectorok, is McDonalds the best restaurant? Of course notSep 09 23:49
cubevectorwhy pick the worst?Sep 09 23:50
sebsebsebIs Ubuntu the best distro?Sep 09 23:51
sebsebsebnah there isn't  a bestSep 09 23:51
sebsebsebIs Ubuntu one of the worst popular distros?   Technically yes it seems soSep 09 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva @webmink it's just symbolic paper, like effigies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4XJQO3qol8Sep 09 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Next up: OpenIndiana, an Illumos-based fork of OpenSolaris, due Sept 14: http://icio.us/13cewxSep 09 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @schestowitz It's more than that. An effigy is entirely symbolic; these books have significance to some people, no matter our view.Sep 09 23:51
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cubevectorare you using Ubuntu yourself?Sep 09 23:52
cubevectorI like Fedora, I like Vector, I like BL3Sep 09 23:52
cubevectorall for different reasonsSep 09 23:53
cubevectorUbuntu is too much different from Unix for my tasteSep 09 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows Presentation Foundation is Dying/Dead, #Silverlight Might be Too, So #Microsoft Tries to Bastardise HTML5 http://ur1.ca/1kiwn #wpfSep 09 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @webmink Yes. :-)Sep 09 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @webmink effigies are portrayals of people some other people revereSep 09 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @schestowitz Usually only if someone tells you who they are :-)Sep 09 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva @webmink talking about this and trying to stop free speech only serves them by giving more attention. Streisand Effect.Sep 09 23:56
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sebsebsebcubevector: I used to use Ubuntu, now only  virtual machinesSep 09 23:58
sebsebseband well I tried to Live CD the netbook edition earlier so I could hopefuly try Unity, but yeah woudn't work since NIvidaSep 09 23:59
sebsebsebmy Mum's lap top has ATI though may work on thereSep 09 23:59
sebsebseband my brothers old lap top with ATI woudn't workSep 09 23:59
sebsebsebanywaySep 09 23:59
sebsebsebI swtiched to Mandriva :)Sep 09 23:59

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